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Week 10 Waivers & Streamers + Breaking News??? - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/10

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Week 10 Waivers & Streamers + Breaking News??? - Fantasy Football Podcast for 11/10

The Fantasy Footballers podcast delivers a sharp analysis of the trade deadline week, emphasizing the urgency for the Minnesota Vikings to act before losing Justin Jefferson. With Carson Wentz performing poorly and Kyler Murray proving more effective, the hosts argue that a quarterback trade is essential for any playoff push. They highlight rising injury concerns—especially for Puka Nakua, Michael Wilson, and Josh Jacobs—making depth and roster stability critical. Arizona’s offensive collapse due to multiple QB injuries further underscores the need for teams to prioritize stability. The discussion also pivots to waiver wire opportunities, spotlighting Caleb Douglas and Jordan Tyson as high-potential, low-risk picks despite their limited exposure. The hosts critique the current media narrative, calling it exaggerated and misleading, with many rumors about trades being unverified or speculative. They stress that fantasy success hinges on real team performance, not just headlines. Ultimately, the episode calls for pragmatism—focusing on proven players, injuries, and realistic trade value—over chasing hype, especially in a season defined by instability and unpredictability.

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Welcome to the Fantasy Footballers Podcast with your hosts, Andy Holloway, Jason Moore, and Mike Wright. Oh, welcome in. It's butt hair time. No, it was. That's a new intro. Did you get any tweets? I did not get any tweets about it. Yeah. One of us. Welcome back, Jason. It's good to be here. First thing Jason did today was forget his laptop. So that's cool. Might or might not be true. Welcome back. Still not in the swing of things. We got a big trade deadline day. How does one podcast? Step one. Laptop. Laptop. I got a laptop. What are you talking about? You do. You got very lucky today because we bought new laptops and luckily I brought it in for you today. Yeah. And I think you might be installing things right now. I don't know. Who's to tell? Who's to tell? How is Turkey? Turkey? Like Turkey legs and dizzy? Or my hair transplanted Turkey a year ago? No, you really don't know what's going on in this podcast. We told the people the truth about your disappearance. Ah, that you went to Turkey to get the butt hairs off. If you think one that I booty follicle at a time, instead of walking 24,000 steps a day, I was listening to, no, I know we didn't think you, I have no idea what happened this last week, so you'll have to fill me in. Um, I mean, I do know what happened in football. I, I caught up on all of that on the show. What are the Vikings going to Minnesota Vikings? Oh, the Vikings are on the way to playoffs. They're not going to make the, the Vikings will not make. Would you? I would like to address your Carson Wentz take Jason that Carson Wentz is better than Kyler Murray. Well, I don't feel great about it, but the good news for me is so much worse, but the no, the good news for me is still how bad Kyler Murray is. Well, that's good news for Cardinal fans. Marvin Harrison and Kyler Murray are doing wonderful work proving it wasn't Arizona. No, they are. Well, it was still Arizona. We still drafted them. Right. And then we brought them up. And then we got Jeremiah love. We coached them up. Here's the thing about Minnesota. Here's what I want them to understand about today. And I look, we're recording the show at nine in the morning Pacific time, right? Or no, actually we're not Pacific anymore because of the time change. We're actually mountain always. We're mountain always, but here's what I want to say. Whatever you do before the 4 PM deadline today, please just recognize the fact that Justin Jefferson is included. In your trade. Yes, he is. If you, if you trade for a quarterback, you get Justin Jefferson. Yep. If you do nothing, he's gone. Soldier has fought for you and been quiet and been the leader, but his look legacies are in the balance. And this man is not going to want to be on this franchise. If you don't make a splash and go out and get somebody and fix what's going on. Because who is somebody to you? Is that cousins? Cousins is fine. Uh, there's only a handful of guys. Matthew Stafford is, is, is the headline thing that I think makes so much sense. I can't imagine. I don't, I don't think they'll do it either, but it does make sense. You probably don't. However, things have gone really downhill in, on the Rams offense. You lose Puka. You lost Adams. You have a division with San Francisco and Seattle. You drafted Ty Simpson in the first 15 picks of the draft. He looked good in the preseason. There's comments about Stafford's arm, not feeling great. I don't know. If that complicates something, all I'm trying to say is Minnesota. If you don't make a move, you know, season, no Jefferson in the future. And there's not a quick fix coming for in the off season for your quarterback position. And, but yes, Kyler is infinitely better than what we saw last night. That was the lowest. I think the lowest passer rating game since Sam Darnold seen ghost game in the, with the Jets. And there was like, which is a long time ago. The time is a classic. The time of possession was like the third lowest for a Minnesota Vikings game of all time. Something like that. Just an absolute insane stat. There's when you go through and you look at the quarterbacks, it's hard to find anyone who actually makes you better because Daniel Jones to me is trading away assets, which the Colts aren't going to do it, but you're, you would just be trading away assets to, to not actually improve guys who can make your team better. Yeah. By my calculation, I'm looking at backup QBs right now. It's like Mac Jones from the 49ers. They're not going to trade him, but he would make your team better. He would, he would make your team better, but there's no, there's no way that the 49ers with everything that's happened to Brock and they're going for a Superbowl and not in the conference with a competitive playoff team. Uh, it's like, oh my gosh, it's really hard to find anyone. I think Daniel Jones, Marcus Mariota, I think Daniel Jones makes them with as bad with, with as bad as Daniel. Jones has played this year. I can't imagine him making the bet. He has objectively been near the bottom of the league in at, at, at the position. And I don't think it's a weapons issue. They've got a decent enough or had a good offensive line to start. You have a foundational running back. You've got a great running game that you've got some weapons found. You should have heard Mike go crazy yesterday. I'll bet. I'm not pleased with them. Big news guys. The Cardinals are signing quarterback Joey Aguilar to the active roster. Okay. We, we don't need that position as much as we need to walk. So we have so much news. Yes, there is. But to finish like yesterday, it's like Joe Flacco makes sense. I can't imagine that they're going to trade Joe Flacco. I know. I mean the, the, the splash that you want to make the splash, go get Justin Herbert. Go off. Oh yeah. Go get Justin Herbert from the, the chargers. Yeah. That fixes everything for now and the future. Herbert. Looks broken. Well, we, we've seen enough Herbert over time that I think he can be redeemed. But, um, yeah, this, this quarterback whisperer really, no, really whispered. It's not great. He's whispering his instructions and no one can hear him. The, uh, the Kirk cousins one is by far the funniest. It is the funniest that Minnesota Daniel Jones, who they had Minnesota has to come crawling back to Kirk cousins. They will have to give up assets. Oh. Get Kirk cousins. Oh my gosh. That's what I want more than anything. Kirk will be like in the room and be like, and then have we heard anything from Kirk on whether, no, like they're not talking about it. Yeah. I mean, I don't, I don't know that they can talk about it, but it's one of those where I don't believe Kirk would want to go back. I think he would be happier for the Raiders. He might. I mean, here's the thing is make all their executives. Well, get on their hands and knees. Your team is not going to make the playoffs, right? You're going to get benched. You're going to get benched at some point and you could go to the Minnesota Vikings who are six and two with an elite defense. You have his history with, and yeah, you're like, you're very comfortable with the, the facilities and the people, even if there's, there could be beef, but there's no beef. He's got, he's got tons of Benjamins to cover over the cash. I mean, I think that Kirk cousins is the most likely outcome by the end of the day. It's the one that makes the most sense. And they, they got smushed, you know, they got Mendoza. I'm talking about the Raiders at this point, but look, I'm not talking about the Raiders. I'm talking about the Raiders. I think it's crazy. There's so much to talk about and we may get news during the show. We may have to just go on Instagram with some reactions to trades because the deadline is coming 23 to six. The Vikings Carson wins was eight for 25 for 81 yards and two picks should have had eight picks. He was so, so bad. Josh Allen got it done at a touchdown and a pick. James Cook got it done. 31 carries Mike when, when the, when they scored, which was a lot too scored. Right before the game, you know, at that point is nine to 30 before the extra point. And Mike goes, and the bills have won. Yes. Which based on the score they had, that was the, there was no possible way. The Vikings were getting anything more than a couple of field goals with the way their offense looked. I mean, the bills are not, their secondary has not been good, but it was the best I've ever seen. It is so incredibly unfair to Brian Flores and this defense, the product that the, the Minnesota Vikings are putting out on offense. Like they had, uh, they, the bills finally scored towards the end of the half, but they had completely shut down Josh Allen. It's like same exact thing that happened last week. Like had shut down the Detroit lions for an, for a half. And then your defense gets exhausted because the time of possession is two to one. You can't keep it up. No, no, it's, it's, uh, for a six and two team, but the man, they feel about as the first half Vikings defense was like. This is the most terrifying thing I've ever seen this, this season. They are great. Josh Allen, MVP level. Josh Allen had no idea how to play football in the first half against that office or defense. Let me ask this question. Do you think trade for Josh Allen? I don't, I don't believe that they are going to be like, I don't think one's on the market because I don't think Matthew Stafford's on the market. That would change everything. Assuming he's not, that's too fantasy football. Then I don't believe that there is a solution. coming for the Vikings offensively. offensive quarterback and if that's the case but some people either we got some time here before the trade deadline or or whatever should you trade justin jefferson away on the like in fantasy right now oh i got you i thought no not in real life on the hope that a quarterback yes just like right now shotgun in this 11th hour that we have no you trade him away on the promise of a quarterback coming that's what i mean yeah yeah we're all in agreement and then he's not going to be good for he's the he's the wide receiver 24 right now and he doesn't have a quarterback that can get it done if kurt cousins arrives everything will be very good yes and and look i think it happens because if i'm the raiders you just stumbled into a gold mark yes you have mendoza he's going to be a quarterback next year no matter what and now somebody wants cousins for draft capital make them pay through the nose the the it would be their desperation is your you know scrooge mcduck just like jonathan taylor has to be trade if you're the colts you have to trade him yeah like if you're the if you are the raiders and in the minnesota vikings come to me honestly for anything i've i mean the what are the the the cardinals got a four five swap for for jacob and an outright seven and it's like if you got that for kurt cousins you have to take i know it's not you have to take it's not a ton but why would why would you not take it way more than that they should they will get way more than that again they will get like an outright three i still think this is a juwan jennings situation where they can have a they can have an agreement in place and be like oh give you a two oh we've got to take it well he could just say i don't show i don't want to play there he'll go i i think he would just to win a championship at the end of your career versus dying in las vegas right now cousins doesn't strike me as a spiteful man no i'm sure he was huh i think we all we oh yeah we have a little bit back in a heartbeat if i was in that situation because minnesota's got a chance to win a title yes and cousins is cousins can win them a title legitimately you don't need to be this is a ty detmer whatever situation you got such a good defense if you just had some competence on the offensive side yes trent delfer yeah what did i say ty detmer yeah that was philadelphia right yeah trent delfer but they have to do something or the ship is just gonna keep sinking and then you will and jefferson oh man yeah i'd be getting out of town yeah like you guys this is you are unserious yeah yeah and it's a fun week the best part is i mean they're they're still just we got time we got time to figure it out we'll know it all in a few hours and we got news because injuries out the wazoo news and notes from around the league all right oh boy well um oh boy i'm gonna start with what happened in arizona gardner minshu is uh is gonna be gone gardner minshu torn ucl may have well i mean did we get any confirmation the confirmation is signing two quarterbacks yeah well we knew he was going to be out for a week they signed no confirmation on the he's seeking a second opinion okay he's but they signed josh johnson and another quarterback he's probably done michael wilson oh man who was uh stepping up again with some big performances apparently suffered a fracture in his neck on the fourth play of the game and played through it what a dog so he tore so he broke his ribs the week before and played through it two of them yeah broke literally broke his neck and then broke his neck and he's done for the season yeah so arizona now has gone from jacoby brissett to minshu to carson back from harrison born and michael wilson to uh hold on a second guys let me go ahead and uh simi waiver wire day which wide receiver simi fahoku okay devin duvernay reggie virgil and uh this one's new to the show harrison wallace the third okay wow come on down harrison what a name yeah that one sounds noble the third a that's almost as good as marvin harrison the second the injuries of the injuries are not arizona's fault injuries just happen but when you have no idea what you're doing and you are an unserious franchise now moving forward to find the they now we're going to find out is carson beck any good except he has no one on the field well he does get to face aaron donald and miles garrett except he has trey mcbride and that is all it could be josh johnson throwing the ball just so if people don't remember who josh johnson is oh he was drafted in 2008 everyone knows who josh johnson is because he's been on your team at some point he's 40 years old but i'm saying you we knew at some point arizona would have to figure out it does carson beck have anything for us moving into next year and now you get to find out nothing nothing listen absolutely nothing i applaud what the jacksonville jaguars are doing yeah man yes but listen i applaud them not trading btj everybody and their mother thinks they need to trade btj one injury and your super team has a depth problem like the cardinals do right now you need btj for three or four plays and then if parker washington went down or jacoby myers went down this is how you win a championship not just run routes and not get targets yeah but not just depth it's not just if if someone goes down he makes them better yeah he might not be a superstar he's you know he's not good for fantasy football yes but he makes them better he's not good for fantasy football he's not good for fantasy it's like rashid shaheed in seattle it's a player too yeah when you're going for a championship and every play you have to have a defender paying attention to this fast guy on the out not every play because he ran 11 routes last week okay so but when he's out there you have to make sure that you're looking at this very fast athletic guy and it opens things up for parker he is the parker decoy puka nakua man well the uh all of the things where there was smoke being you know limping off the field there was fire despite his smiles after the game sprained him uh pcl sprained mcl turf toe this is nothing to do with the core muscle injury he's been battling through uh sir pre-hernia sorry yeah thank you sorry it has same knee he had the pcl injury on back in 2024 you should just get the surgery now for the hernia uh pook like do it all like a five for one i brought a coupon doc yeah just go under he should do the uh the thing you did in turkey as well yeah wait is puka new hair for the butt hair for the butt oh yeah yeah the removal yeah yeah they do it best out there in turkey that's what i hear um what's the capital of turkey jason where did you go istanbul istanbul not constant uh yeah the puka news is horrific i mean brutal uh it's bad for the rams offense is bad for kyron it's bad for quorum yep it it there's not a great option there you'd love to be like man terence ferguson nope you're banged up oh wait tyler higby no you've been irrelevant oh colby parkinson like you can't put your finger on one guy you know canada mumfield's gonna be in our waiver segment today to do out well yeah cool like i told mike before the show i'm like hey help us we need to make sure we pick a cardinal wide receiver to recommend no we don't no yeah no we don't sometimes it's better to be quiet right trey mcbride and a bunch of nobody's doing nothing it might be elijah higgins it might be it might be a titan but puka nakua is going to be on ir one of the crazy things with puka and i think for fantasy purposes like like i'm i'm looking so this is a fantasy take in our league of record i'm looking to try to trade for puka right because he's an injured superstar i'm playing for 2027 so you know that's smart would you rather have neighbors or puka puka but puka is in a contract year he does not have a contract he's an unrestricted free agent are you gonna make other teams better again well he's an unrestricted free agent yeah is he is puka in year four uh yeah he's he's in year four right now in 2026 yeah that would mean that he he was not a first round draft final year yeah you're right he is a complete oh well they can franchise him sure so is he not going back to the ramps it's crazy that i'm the rams i probably franchise them i don't know if they have any other players that they need to use it on but pukas you can't let him go dude i hate the franchise situation for these guys it sucks to have a team be able to wield that power over you and you can let him go if you if there's stuff behind the scenes that have been i don't i mean there's a reason he's not extended yes for sure and i i understand that the off the field stuff has to be an incredible headache but as a team that really is a serious franchise focused on trying to win ball games you don't have a wide receiver core behind him well he certainly wouldn't be the same player someplace else in my opinion i i agree i think it's a very unique justin jefferson it's a unique situation with stafford and nakua and sean mcveigh but i mean this is terence ferguson by the way re-injured his hamstring and he's out for several weeks he you can take him off your list of of things to think about i'm gonna be dropping him from my ir spot i didn't know this was going to be a new show but it feels like it yeah and we could have trades happen at any moment hey guess what more injuries from andre stevenson he's going to miss a short period of time no surgery needed it is a knee tendon injury it's rest and rehab but you know he's not going to play week 10 they have a week 11 by maybe he's back after that you get a one-year rental or one day one week rental of cory kiner travo is out right now yeah so they are they are on the top of the list of teams that should trade for jonathan taylor yep they are man all right let me take a quick break and we'll talk some more news and get into the waivers josh jacobs will undergo surgery on his fractured finger and they may put him on injured reserve they have a week 11 by jason's trade with al borland sorry jr jason traded him josh jacobs and lamar jackson but jason and then i traded jason got lamar jackson back and and a pick like and a pick back that's jeremy i'm sorry you traded a two and three away then you traded a six to give him lamar back yeah a six eight swap for coram and mcgowan and so you're making a mcgowan bet yeah i'm making a jtt bet right which one of the same yeah oh yeah yeah yeah um you you you are in it you are in it i'm trying to stay above our league of record right now he's mayhem i went from having the bye week to being one of the on the bubble playoffs in one week one week wow that's i went oh and two and everybody else went two and oh remind me to talk to you about a something in about a week i've got a reminder one week from today me and you on this show we have i have a feeling i'm gonna hate it no no i think you might you might like it you might like it mike knows it will he like it i've heard of some things will he like it i i don't want to spoil any surprises all right okay josh jacobs he's gonna miss time mike and i were debating long in the studio yesterday it's like marshall lloyd's hurt pierce strong i i believe the team really likes pierce strong but caleb johnson to me seems like probably the best runner you did see your boy score a touchdown right yeah i know i can't talk about him okay uh they again we've been here so good we have been here before we've been here before and they all suck when i mean they do they all suck yes including jacob yeah i mean the offensive line is horrific and they i don't know why they run the ball they should genuinely create an offense that is 100 pass like oh yeah you know it's like oh you can't just do that because then they'll know you're going to pass but if we know that they know we're going to pass create an offense it's just 100 pass what if you did a game where every play is play action and you never hand the ball that would be awesome maybe this time maybe this one oh hey check this out yeah hey did you know that watson and golden are three and five on the year what somebody's unbelievable somebody told me that we uh we are not giving watson his flowers enough or i'm not because i bring up golden like watson mike's my guy yeah watson is unbelievable i know what's going on we were so high on him in the draft he's been incredible we bring up golden because the value on watson was amazing the value golden was amazing golden's on pace for 175 targets jay is that i did not realize that yes facts it's it's so many targets only 100 catches and well because hey check this out yeah also probably on pace for 45 pass interference calls yeah he is uh they're both getting open all the time they don't even use tucker craft yeah it's and what a trade for me it's wild that so demonstrative and it went down how the nfl because christian watson just signed an extension and it was like many many people were furious with the packers how are you signing this guy who's he's a bum he all he does is get hurt he is going to be so underpaid if this is christian watson well you got a smoking deal you did but it was a bet it was it was oh yeah and it still is i mean yes watson just left an ambulance and came back in recent weeks so it's crazy that team is that team is nuts they're playing so well and they're going to get michael parsons back and the defense is playing well yeah exciting time for uh the packers fans jake ferguson will likely be out multiple weeks mcl pcl spring so dallas dallas and dac we've talked a lot about not looking quite himself pickens we'll see if he comes back from the hamstring but no pickings no ferguson that's not going to make dac look better it will make cd yeah cd will get 29 targets will be a relevant pickup he will yeah um what else do we have going on tyler goodson brevin span ford yeah he's been used even with ferguson being there that's like sunday live people were asking because the algebra is easy if george is out jake ferguson is should be playable which he did score a touchdown so it absolutely worked out but i was like i i don't know if i can fully endorse because span ford is the one who's out here getting catches yeah um tyler goodson's gonna miss multiple weeks the backup who's that is the juicier backup for dallas that is such a bummer he was he looked great they're losing weapons man yeah he looked really really good where giovante's giovante is giovante 20 points a week it's fine like he can help your offense but tyler goodson was gonna change things i think but he's gonna be out cam scataboo will be back he was very close to playing this past week and they held him out he should have probably i guess they won so devin singletary couldn't have looked worse yeah he really couldn't i mean he had a ton of work 24 opportunities 24 opportunities and he i believe his longest rush was 12 yards so with all the other rushing attempts he was under a yard of carry just he was the carsten wins to the running back position this week well said uh and then we have the we have drew lock expected to start against the raiders for seattle who can ride that defense as well oh wait we have waivers to talk about do we have any news do we have any trades i don't see anything haven't seen anything yet dang it taylor's not getting traded because they're just after the show we should just sit here live they're they've got to get traded oh i mean brother taylor's getting tell me about i told jeremy today this morning i'm i of course you did you were trying to get a deal done no he was trying to get a deal done no i i told him i guarantee you just came across my desk i can assure you that's not true that is he kept you won't believe this he kept and kept i i kept ignoring his trade requests i was busy i was getting back from out of town forgetting my laptop forgetting my laptop doing all sorts of things no i had nothing to do with this trade no other than clicking accept eventually that was it well if if the way your trades work john the tailor will be staying home the way that you trading with i think you just condemned yeah i mean do you know how mad this guy's already furious do you know mad owl's going to be when four eastern hits and jonathan taylor jerseys are not on sale on the website for the colts it's not gonna happen he's gonna get traded mike doesn't believe it i i at the risk of looking real foolish here in a couple hours i don't think yeah i like that everything we say right now somebody might listen to it yeah after something else has happened and we just look nice funny um did i hit the waiver button yet do i do that now you can do that now okay cool waiver wire presented by t-mobile of course we're talking about audrick estimae and cory kiner and caleb johnson at the top of a waiver list grody going into week 10 because welcome to the nfl audrick estimae is the perfect example of a waiver list and cory kiner that running backs don't really matter audrick estimae came off the street yeah he got dropped off on an uber on game day ran out of the car and took a handoff and then took 14 more scored a touchdown looked better than kindred has ever looked estimate the estimator man god's name is happening back there there's just something going on outside that we were that's not the three of you playing drums on your desk they don't know it's funny because i see them all giggling back there's a lot of noise right outside this door and josh was accusing me of fart it sounds exactly like and i looked over jeremy perfect time to fart that's true yeah wait for grip and rip it bro wait for the cover audrick estimae 15 for 72 and one okay well mike is he the top of your running back list for a spot start against carolina he is is carolina is a great matchup uh for for running backs that's gonna be a fun game like i believe i believe saints v panthers is for the the lead of the division the this upcoming week so that'll be fun right now they're 31st in adjusted points so this is where we want to attack cory kiner feel like he's a solid pickup for for volume and kiner oh he was great to his credit he was great he has he's had very limited touches over the past month or so he had a like a solid preseason and then this last month he's making things happen eight for 55 and a touchdown playing uh just 17 of the snaps last week rb 15 it's a tougher matchup against detroit but not i mean but the patriots have they lost jack campbell unless the yeah unless the patriots make the move for jonathan taylor cory kiner will be the next man up now a what's unfortunate for the timing of just fancy football waiver wire pickups next week is the week so week 11 is the bi-week for the patriots so Gives Ramondre an extra week to rest up and recover. Will he be good to go for week 12 against the Chargers? That's unknown at this point, but I know that Audrey Estime is going to be the guy. Well, I guess we can't say we know for sure, but I haven't read anything about Travis H.N. Jr. that implies that he will be back soon. That one's lasting a while. Yeah, it is lasting a while. I saw something that I believe he will be back, if not this week, next week. Next week, okay. So one week for Estime? Yeah. I don't have Estime as my number one pickup. It's just depending on spot start versus long term. Yeah, I mean, the number one thing at running back has to be, by the time waivers go through, we'll know about Jonathan Taylor. Like, Seth McGowan will be the number one pickup in half of leagues, or he won't, based on, and we'll know that. So we should talk about it as if Jonathan Taylor is gone, because if he's gone, there's no guarantee that McGowan is just a bell cow, but. He would easily be the number one. He would easily be the number one, and you've got to play for upside. He has the chance to be a bell cow on a bad offense, but, I mean, Ollie Gordon's been great for the Dolphins, and I think that McGowan's looked really good in his limited opportunities, so he would be, like, at this point in the season, pretty much a full fab dump for me. Yeah, I agree with that. If Taylor gets traded for a starter, rest of season. Yeah, I don't know if I'd be. I wouldn't probably be on the full fab, dump train, I agree with him being number one. This is an offensive line that they traded away Quentin Nelson, looks completely inept on offense. I don't, you know, I don't know if I'd put him at number one, based on expectations, but maybe. Or as in, like, full fab. He's number one based on opportunity. Yeah. Just getting someone that you know is the starter for, you know. He's looked good enough to feel that way. The rest of the year, he's a rookie, a little bit exciting, but I agree, it's not like. It's not a lock for, like, a top. Exactly. 15. 15 guy. Exactly, right. Caleb Johnson could be the dude. You know, it's Minnesota. Yeah, that's the issue. And then a bye week. So I am ignoring. And then the Rams. Yeah, I'm ignoring these guys. I think that's the actual best policy. Okay. Versus messing around with Marshawn Lloyd, Caleb, Pierce Strong, all three will get work. Free fab bids, put in a $0 bid. We've done this. We did this experiment. It was called the first seven weeks of the year. The backups that are important, Kalen Black, Emmitt Johnson, so much more valuable to me. Agreed. In fact, I think I would rather start Emmitt Johnson than Caleb Johnson against Minnesota. So, and then the upside. There's really no upside long-term for the Green Bay guys. The upside long-term for Caleb Black or Emmitt Johnson as backups behind true superstar running backs is enormous. Ready for drop candidates at running back? You're gonna love these names. I am not ready for this. Jordan Mason. Sure. I mean, to get one of these other guys, if you need someone, I'm willing, but he's still a starting running back. If you were on waivers, I'd. He's not a starting running back. Yeah, it's definitely a split with him and Jones. Another odd thing of the. Six carries yesterday. Eight the week before. The Vikings game was in the second half, they finally started giving Jordan Mason a couple of carries, and he was moving the ball. And then they're like, okay, Carson Wentz, throw the ball again, and then terrible things happen. Like that. But his best two runs were really late in the game. Yes. No, no, no, I agree. Like when it was like 23 to six, and it didn't matter. But they. Them not even trying it was so. The fact that O'Connell stayed with Carson Wentz that long, I mean, I think Brosmer's a worse quarterback than Carson Wentz, but. Maybe not. At some point, you gotta be like, this is not gonna turn around for Carson Wentz, or try to run the ball with Jordan Mason, which they didn't do until the second half. Hampton, Mason, and Dobbins are the three most popular drop candidates that people are asking about. Well, no. Hampton's getting all the work this last week. He did. Well, he did not. What do you mean? It was almost even split. We got 13 carries for 60 yards. Yeah, but if you. That was a lot more than the last couple weeks. If you go for the quarter-by-quarter and the breakdown of Vidal and Keaton Mitchell. You're just saying other guys don't work still. It was a three-way timeshare. Snaps, 29. I see 29 for Hampton and 28 for Vidal. Yeah. I mean. I mean, I don't. I have a hard time dropping him. What a broken team. What a broken team. I guess you can. And then. And why aren't they trading people? Why are the Chargers not saying, hey, look, if you don't want to use Hampton. I mean, there's all these teams trying to get a running back, trying to get Jonathan Taylor. They will pay for Hampton. Maybe he's not good. Maybe he's like. But regardless, you're not using him. Why are you. You're 0-8. It's weird, man. Why are you not getting capital for the future? You're not winning this year. And you're not using him. Well, I mean. Trade him. The hard part is that, objectively, Amarion Hampton has not been as advertised. No. Correct. And so, you have an obligation to play players that you think are going to be better. You know, we want to see Hampton get all the work because we're fantasy players. Not just that, though. I think we. I want to see him get all the work so that we can see if he's good because, like, genuinely, if you give Derrick Henry six carries a game, eight carries. Like, he's not going to be good. That's not. Correct. He will. It's the Braylon Allen-Breece Hall argument. Exactly right. Like, running backs. And they say this. They're like, I don't. I'm just barely getting a feel for the game, feel for the opponents, and then I'm out of the game. You don't get the opportunity to actually get into the flow of the game, get into the scheme of the game, get into the opponents and working with your offensive linemen. It's nonsense. I've hit that guy hard four times. He's not going to want it the fifth time. Yeah, so. I mean, not. Not that he would be good if he got the opportunity. Right. We'll never know, but I just feel like they should trade him because right now, they're taking a first-round draft capital. Regardless, they spent a first-round draft pick on this player that they aren't using. I mean, you're not even getting a third for him, though. No. You'll get a day three pick. If you traded him, you'd have to take a four or five. I'd rather have the upside of him. I think you could get, like, a three-five swap. No way. No way. I think you would get a third round. Sorry, a day three pick for him. And the thing is, he's got a long career ahead of him where you can have a different offensive coordinator, a different head coach, all that stuff. He's redeemable. Yeah. J.K. Dobbins. Let me tell you what's going on with Dobbins. Last three weeks, he's on pace for 96 rushing attempts for 300 yards and five catches. So, J.K. Dobbins has been 23%, 21%, 15% of snaps. It's only getting worse when Harvey comes back. Coleman's getting everything. Are you dropping J.K. Dobbins? Dobbins, I mean, he's an insurance back at this point. Like, if Coleman misses time, then Dobbins will get a whole bunch of work. I love seeing a consolidation there for Jonah Coleman. 17 attempts this last game. 77% of them. Well, he can catch the ball, too. He's a phenomenal pass catcher. He also grew four inches. I don't know if you guys saw the before and after photo. That before and after photo is one of the most. No, you gotta put it on the back wall. Look it up. Someone get it up here for me. They were showing this because. I don't know how he grew four to five inches. Because he went from little. Little chonky. Yeah, like 16, 17% body fat down to 14% and he gained a foot. Looks super buff and he grew. I can't wait to see this picture. He also had a full donkey-hung barrel in his stomach for the first picture. My favorite part of Jonah Coleman's game in college was his sticky hands. You know how some guys, like Derrick Henry, when you throw the ball to him, he's gotta stop, pause, corral that thing, and get going. Jonah Coleman, you could Cam Newton rifle him the ball from three feet away and it'll just go in. He's caught 93% of his passes so far this year. They put it in the slack if you want to go look at it. Oh, I thought we were going back well. There it is. Oh, that doesn't work well. Why is he so much taller? What in the world? I mean, yes, we're not dumb. We know that the crack on the wall is higher. But why is the photo being presented like this? It's very funny. It's very funny. One dude looks like. It's like his little brother. There we go. I know who'd win in a fight, for sure. Jonah Coleman. Jonah Coleman would win in a fight. All right, we're going to take a break. We'll talk wideouts. Before and after pictures are so funny. The first one, he looks like he is aloof. He's not flexing. That's not an NFL player. He's trying. This is like. This is like he. Sean Payton's like, you need to get into shape and prove it to me. He's like, all right, let's get this before picture. I'm going to eat 16 plates of donuts. I'm going to pooch my belly out. Now, make me look short. And like, I don't know what's happening. His mouth is open like he's a mouth breather. Just like. Yeah, like he's real tired. The second picture, he's flexing. He's. Yeah. I would. Did he get extra tattoos? I would not give carries to the first guy. I'd give carries to the second guy. Pulled his, like, shorts up. Yeah. Showing them quads. I can't wait to find out it's a different dude. All right. All right. Wide receiver pickups. We got to see these. It's a good week for wide receivers. The debut of Jordan Tyson and the explosion of Tank Dell. I watched every single snap and every single route from Jordan Tyson. Wouldn't take long. Who was our. No, there wasn't a ton of routes, but there was a guy who was open. He was our number one guy coming into the draft at wide receiver. He's had a history of hamstring injuries, which he was dealing with at the draft. He was dealing with in training camp. And then he re-injured himself. in training camp. So we finally get to see him on the field. I would say he was open on almost every single play, it's starting to, you know, obviously he's got to stay healthy. And it will take time. Like he's not going to go from this to full snaps next week. It's going to be probably three to four weeks. But goodness gracious, the end of this year, if you actually get full-powered Tyson and Chris Olave, it's going to be real, real fun. Yeah, I mean, if Jordan Tyson is available, which he's only available in about 35% of leagues, he would be my number one pickup. You could even make an argument if Jonathan Taylor is traded, he's as valuable as McGowan. This is a guy who is a top ten draft pick who has looked good, just not been able to be on the field on an offense that plays fast, gets a lot of snaps. Where did he look good? He looked good in the short time. You were implying at some point this year we thought he looked good. You just mean in college? No, no, no. Like in camp, when he got back from his injury, before he left for his injury, he was dominating. He just was looking awesome with Kellen Moore. Every camp report was like, this guy's the real deal. And then he got injured. We haven't seen him. What we did see, though, was we saw Jordan Tyson play 24% of snaps to Devon Bailey's 93% of snaps. And he got five targets to Devon Bailey's four targets. He's going to get on. He's the future of this franchise. And was crossing wide open in the end zone. And Tyler Shuck just. Didn't see him. I do think like talent, opportunity, end of year, rookie season. I'm excited for what could be. And again, what's the probability that he's great? I don't know. It's probably less than 50%. But that doesn't matter. Like when we're making waiver wire pickups and we're saying, okay, I want to get, you know, Ryan Flanoy because this guy's injured and maybe he'll have a good week. You're not winning a championship with that. But Jordan Tyson, if the kind of. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. If the best case scenario hits all of a sudden. Yep. It changes the makeup of your fantasy team. And that's why I'm, I'm high on him. Yeah. That was a, uh, that was an exciting game on Sunday. The saints, uh, the offensive line is not fixed. No. And I don't think we're going to see Tyson down the field almost ever. That's the only other thing I don't have the time. Well, no, I just, he's not running those routes. I don't think that I'll lobby is that guy down the field. So is, um, uh, Lance. Like Tyson, if you watch all the routes, I mean, this is like, go sit down, be in space, some crossers, short area targets. I don't know if they're trying to protect the hamstring. Be careful. But I'm just saying his future may involve seven for 41 and you're, and you're praying for the touchdown, but we'll see what happens. That team is weird because it has so much fantasy upside, but it also can really let you down. Like I'm, I'm sure Mike with Tyler shock, you're like putting them in your lineup. You're excited, but you're scared. Yes. Yeah. That's very accurate. Tank Dell. Uh, there's going to be a huge fantasy reaction. I don't think tank Dell is going to be on any of my rosters because I'm not willing to spend any fab relative to what I think the majority will do. When you go four for one Oh five and a touchdown on nine targets, I think you're going to end up with a strong, strong reaction from everybody. They have five guys. Yeah, no, they got four. They got four and a Marv. Yeah. I mean, it makes me so, so, so happy. I mean, you had 384 passing yards from CJ Stroud, who was incredible. He had five passing touchdowns and Marv does Jack squat. You're like, Hey, which one of these guys was a top five NFL pick and which one is just coming off a two year rehab of a destroyed knee. Yeah. I mean, in case Sean booty came over from another team, put up two touchdowns on one 25. If you're reacting to tank Dell, you should be reacting to, to booty. And I don't think you do it to any of them. Like I'm not doing it. I'm reacting to take Dell because I think that, that his snaps are just going to go up where booty will, he'll stay the same. We also do have like, we have a history where tank Dell was a very good NFL player. Good for fantasy. The question has always been, we don't believe he will be healthy enough to be that again. He looked pretty healthy again, not 50% of the snaps. So I I'm, I'm with Andy. I'm not going hard after tank Dell. I'm not going to spend up for him and chase, you know, a four for 105. And also keep in mind, like the last catch. I don't know if you saw this, like they had put all their backups and the game was over and they manufactured that last pass. Cause he was close to a hundred yards. They wanted to get them over a hundred yards. And so, you know, he really had three catches in the game. This is not like a, a, a great wow. Wow. He's back, but there is some excitement. And I think the difference between him and Bobby is that he's not going to bootie to me is the fact that this is a player who was really special once and is working his way back. And so you at least have the hope that maybe he will be fully healthy and be himself again. Cause he's, he's young, right? I mean, he can't be, I know he's missed a couple of years, but how old is tank Dell? If he has a future at yes. Oh gosh. 27. Yeah. Yeah. I just think predictability stuff on this team. Wait to see 24. What's what's wild is Nico tank. Dale Hutchinson, Marvin Harrison booty. And they have Jalen Knoll and Higgins gone for the year. Yeah. That's seven dudes. Like maybe you've got a consolidation, but I don't think they're going to take Marv off the field completely. They should, but they don't. I think you're just going to like Nico is suffering under the plurality of targets. So, um, but I, I personally wouldn't spend as much as maybe you would. I, well, no, I, I said I wouldn't, I wouldn't spend much. I I'm excited about the prospect. But I'm not going to, I, I don't, I think the odds are so low that he gets back to, you know, being an 89, 90% route participation guy that, um, I won't put money there. I would much rather go after Caleb Douglas. Caleb Douglas has had that drum beat. It sucks. Cause freaking Malik Willis is hurt. That's the part that's I'm, I'm with you. Like he was one of our top pickups last week. He was, he was Mike start of the week, went six for 70, eight targets. I just, I hate, I mean, he plays the Colts this week. I don't know. I just hate the fact that Malik has banged up, but maybe that doesn't matter. Would you rather like this week playing the Colts, Caleb Douglas rookie, you've got a little bit more hope for the, the, the rest of the season or like Ryan Flanoy. Oh, I'd take, I'd take Douglas. Right. Yeah. I, I, I would as well. Flanoy flopped last week. Douglas. I mean, two for 53 in a week with no pickings. Douglas has 100% passed my eye test. I mean, when I watch him, he had some drops too. He is a really good quarterback. He's a quality NFL wide receiver. He's on a bad offense, but you know, so is Ollie Gordon. We're playing Ollie Gordon. You've, you've got a rookie who had all the drumbeat of the off season, has missed three games, has only played in five games and has had 70 yards or more in three of those five games. Like you can't really ask. You love him. You should, you should trade for him in league of record. You got him. Yeah. All right. I'll make you an offer. All right. He's very solid. He could be a great player for your future. He could play running back for you. Oh, if that is allowed. I mean, let me in league of record, move him to running back. I will. 100%. What do you mean you need? Oh, for your keepers. Yeah. Okay. You've got a plan. We'll see if it comes true next year. Yeah. Ryan Flanoy will have opportunity, but they play San Francisco. But he should have targets, especially if Ferguson's out now. We have Antonio Williams who again, led the team in routes. I am too. I still vary in. But the production. The production is the production. And right now it hasn't been there. Six targets, three for 25. Led the team in routes. But Santa Claus is on our roof right now. That's not the roof, man. I think that was a full-on transformer outside the door. Jeremy, was that you? I farted. I apologize. That was a huge fart. That was impressive. Sorry. That was earthquake levels. Man, what are they doing? Are they? That was on the roof. Oh, that was? Yeah. Oh, that's good. Oh, then it is. That's good. So at any moment, somebody could fall through. They could fall through the roof. It could happen. But we'll capture it all. See, that's tough because it's like you don't want that guy to get hurt, but the virality of that clip. It would be great. You know, I'm sure he'd be fine. Yes. You got your Christmas stuff up? I don't. Oh, no. I don't. I was out of town. I got my Christmas stuff up. I don't. All right. I'm sorry. I don't have my Christmas stuff up. I forgot that was coming. Yeah. You forgot Christmas? I put on Charlie Brown Christmas music vinyl. We got Thanksgiving on the way. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to do Thanksgiving. Cool. Oh, it's like an eating football holiday. It's really a football holiday. I mean, it's pretty, pretty. I have. Honestly, on my flight, I was just watching Thanksgiving cooking videos the whole time. Okay. Good. Good. Antonio Williams, Pat Bryant. Look, I'm never going to be. I am. I'm never going to be persuaded by Pat Bryant because I don't believe that one wide receiver can be regularly consistent for this team. So the Denver Broncos. That was a concussion. Yeah. I, I don't know. I can't, I can't paint the picture that you want me to paint. Right. I want, I want to paint it. I like Pat Bryant. I think he's really good. I just, if anyone there, the, the, the path forward for Pat Bryant to me is just, he's their best wide receiver. And I mean, water was their best wide receiver. Well, we thought he was a better, better wide receiver than Pat Bryant. I don't, I don't know. He's definitely a better wide receiver. They can't get the ball into their playmaker's hands on a regular basis because Bo Nix, I mean. I mean, there's just too many mouths to feed in Denver. I don't – look, I can be wrong. Well, Waddle could miss this week with concussion. You know what's funny is – Before Bryant got hurt, we said all the same stuff. Six points, one point, 13-6, 13 this week. He'll have a one-point week next week. That was quite a few 13s. I feel like if the Broncos traded – That was two out of five. If the Broncos traded for Kirk Cousins, they'd be really good. But they can't do it because it's like – Can we not get a trade? Yeah, seriously. Can we not get a trade? Oh, the Falcons are signing Jake Moody. That's not a trade. I do have a rumor. Do you want to hear it? Oh, I'm sure it's great. It's really good. Tell me a rumor. It lays out exactly how great the beat reporters and the insiders are doing right now. This was a report from Fowler, guys. Evan Engram of the Denver Broncos has garnered interest, but he's unlikely to be traded. What a report! This is being reported. Wait. So he has garnered interest. Yeah. So people have been interested. They're looking into Evan Engram. Nothing's going to happen. Correct. But they could be interested. But we want to tell you about it. Right? Isn't that what that means? Why don't – He's garnered interest, but he hasn't. Why didn't you push the button, man? Breaking news. Evan Engram has garnered interest. Kanata Mumfield. I think it could work for a little while. The internet, man. Just unplug it. Kanata Mumfield. This is awful. Just unplug the internet? Yeah. We're working on that with AI. Mumfield, 44% of snaps. He's going to get a – For the Rams. You've got to understand. When Puka Nakua leaves the Rams, this is not the same thing as Adams. Right. Adams might take advantage of four catches for two touchdowns. You are talking about 20 targets for Puka Nakua going someplace else. So maybe they're a run-first team and a defense-first team. But, again, 2019. 20 targets going someplace. Sorry, Andy. Hold on one second. Yeah, no. We've got to break this. We've got to break this, Jason. Why do I even try to do this show? Jason. Look. This is per Ben Standig. Commanders. We're giving these guys their flowers. The commanders will – they will listen to offers but, quote, appear likely – Unlikely. Unlikely. Jason, don't misreport. To tradeaway players. Okay. We're reporting it that they're going to listen and probably do nothing. Listen. Listen. Listen. You don't have to talk if you have nothing to say. I'm breaking news right now, guys. Hold on. I'm going to Twitter. I'm break – Here's the thing. Hold on. Yeah. I'm going to do that too, Jay. This can be perfectly fine. If I'm a Washington Beat reporter and I'm hearing they're like, we're probably not going to trade, that's the report. Hey, fans. Washington's not going to do anything. Like, that's an actual report. Because I want to know, is my team – are we going to do something? But if you're saying, well, they're going to talk about it, but they're probably not going to do – Many players have garnered interest, but some people may or may not be traded. That is my news report, Jason. I know you're working on one. Yeah. I actually have – My show, Breaking, Arizona Cardinals could listen to offers on players but probably won't pull the trigger. Yeah. Tweeted. All right. Did you see the report that the Broncos called Arizona to see if they would trade Trey McBride? I did. That's boss. The Cardinals said no. I respect the heck out of that. Shoot your shot. That's fine. They just played him too. You've got to ask the most beautiful woman, like, will you go out with me? I know you won't, but like – For this to be a report, get out of here. Yeah. Have something important. I will say this. Genuinely, by, like, leaps and bounds, there has never been a worse news reporting cycle year ever. This is – whatever has happened, I don't know if it's an AI issue or just a speed, ADHD issue, whatever it is. Where's Diana Rossini? I don't think you need her. Genuinely, let's go back to, like, reporters on the inside, you know? But, like, the stuff that is being shared is absolute nonsense. I'm not saying she provided a service to the fantasy players with her reporting. Right, right. I'm out of here. She's back in the – She is back. She's got a new report. She's making her comeback. They're playing it at all the little gas station pump TVs. And you know what? If she – If she can give me some good information, I'm willing to hear it. Yeah. And I don't – Because right now, it is just crap. You got Jocena Anderson just begging for Shadur to be traded to teams. You've got everybody else reporting some things may or may not happen. You don't have to type yet. You don't have a rule. Twitter doesn't, like, take away your account if you don't tweet every four seconds. No, but the problem is it's not just Twitter. Like, Twitter is the aggregators are taking what they're saying on the television and reporting it. So they have to do it. It's top-down. It's been terrible. It reminds me of years ago when I got on the Pat McAfee show for my joke tweet when Julio Jones was trying to be traded. I was like, according to my sources, the team's interested. And it laid out, like, all of the teams in the league. And it got taken. I'm like, oh, my gosh. These teams are interested. It's like, you guys, calm down. Like, wait for real information. We don't just have to have every little whiff. It's like people smelling. You know, it's like, I can't wait to eat it. I'm just going to smell. It's going to burn your mouth. Yeah. The steam. Would you drop Ladd-McConkie, Jalen Coker, Jalen Waddle, or Emeka Abuka? Those are the four drop candidates. Waddle, yes. Abuka, maybe. Oh, my gosh. Waddle getting dropped is just crazy. Yeah. I mean, Ladd-McConkie has had no season. We were talking yesterday on the show, Jay. He chopped me. We believe that there was one. You chopped yourself. We believe that, like, there's been one highlight. There's been one highlight of the season on offense for the Chargers in eight games, which was Kamani Vidal-Sassoun's run down the sideline for a touchdown. Then they went 37 drives without a touchdown. But anyways, Ladd-McConkie has been ravaged by injury. You know, foot, back, spasms, concussion, disaster. Would you drop him? I don't think I'd drop him. Okay, you're in on Antonio Williams with me, Andy. Would you drop him for Williams? No. Okay. No. I'm not dropping Ibuka either. There's weeks to come, and these are talented wide receiver ones on their team. Are you shaking your head on the talented question or the wide receiver one part? Maybe. In the last 15 games, how many games do you think Emeka Ibuka has got? 65 yards. Just 65 yards. It would be zero. He hasn't done it in his last 15 games. I mean, we did say, like, it's been a season now. It's been basically a season. It's been a season's worth of bad Ibuka. Yeah. Like, I'm not saying I shouldn't have bought any of the rookie cards I bought, but I shouldn't have. Yeah, they are one Mike Evans down. And honestly, I mean, for a player that a couple weeks ago had 16 targets in Ibuka. I mean, last year, down the stretch, had 13, 9, 8, 8, 9, 12 targets. Like, he's not getting it done. He is wildly. He's not disappointed after that first month where it looked like they got a superstar. He's not a star. The prediction markets have Jonathan Taylor being traded at 31%, the lowest of the last three weeks. Which, I feel like the nail in the coffin was placed by Al Borland trading for Seth McGowan. It was already done. It was already done. They are going to do the wrong thing. To be fair, I traded for Blake Corum with a lotto ticket in Seth McGowan. Yeah, he didn't just trade for McGowan. Yeah, it's not bad. And didn't you lose someone? Oh, yeah. Josh Jacobs. I traded him to you. Sorry, man. This is a man on the fringe of the playoffs. Last week, he had a bye. Now, he's on the fringe of the playoffs. That's insane. He was like one of the biggest. Because of you, Jason. Oh, it was me. I got some other guys I can send your way. This is a crazy show. This is a weird show. NFL rumors. Expect Josh Downs to be traded today. Among the teams interested. So, here. Steelers, 49ers, and Chiefs. Is that from the NFL? NFL rumors account? Or who's messaging this? Nobody knows. Oh. Well, I'm just saying. They're hiding who's messaging on tweets now. I'm saying if your account is literally called NFL rumors, then fine. Fair. Because you are not hiding. You aren't saying what you're not. You're like, yeah, we're just rumors. We're hearing stuff. Now, you're going to want to hit on some of your rumors. Tight ends. Darren Waller had the week to remember. 10 targets, 8 for 90 and 1. Could it go away? Of course. I don't really know why it even happened. It will go away. But he looked okay. And then, are you shooting a shot with one of the tight ends with the Rams when you know that they're going to be the primary receivers at this point? Yes, I will. Was it Higby? If I'm in desperate times at my tight end position, then yes. I will take the chance that Tyler Higby, it was 5 targets. It was only 1 for 13, but 5 targets to your tight end. Like, I mean, I'm. I'm rocking, what, Dalton Kincaid. And he's getting how many targets per game? I've got to find his numbers. Where are you at, Dalton? Dalton Kincaid, this past week against Minnesota, got 3 targets. Before that, it was 6. That was all right. But 5 targets to the tight end. That's what you can ask for off of the waiver wire. And they're going to have to completely retool the offense. Like, McVay's going to have to get in the lab and figure out how to get in the office. get this done. Some seasons just feel. A little messed up. We'll see if he can pull them out from the doom. I think the defense. Myles Garrett being back is pretty good for them. Jacksonville, Detroit, Buffalo. Those are some options that defense and the defensive spots this week. You can see custom waiver wire rankings for every position. Did you say the Packers? The Packers, for sure. They play Minnesota. Yeah. You mean Kirk Cousins? Maybe. But if it's not Kirk Cousins, it's Carson Wentz or Max Brosmer. Or Kyler Murray. Kyler Murray's hamstring got a lot better with the play of Carson Wentz. It was healing so fast. So, something that irked me. I'm watching. Just one thing. Well, this one. I bring it up because it's Kyler Murray. I feel like when I'm watching quarterbacks who are hurt, when their team succeeds, those guys are, like, happy. Yes. Because they're like, yes, my team is winning. I feel like I watched Watson and Kyler Murray on the side. And they just, when bad things were happening, I don't know. Maybe I'm just projecting all of my negative thoughts about them. I feel like their aura was like, yeah, good. Good. I'm glad we're losing. Remember the Dolphins got a first-rounder for Jalen Waddell? Yeah. For him to go to Denver and average 37 yards a game. There's going to be some Sean Payton questions. Like, O'Connell's getting them now. How long is Payton? Get to keep running that garbage offense out there. Dubs. Before you're like. With the Dubs. No. Yeah, I was going to say. He's got a fall guy. Payton is. He can just hand the, you know, play calling back to. Davis? Yeah. Yeah. They're winning games. I mean, there's no question. The years of support there. Bo Nix is the current next fall guy after Davis Webb. Oh, right. Right, right, right, right. And then they've got, I mean, what do they have? Two losses? Yeah, they're fine. Two losses on the year. But they won't win in the play. They won't win in the play. They won't win in the playoffs. They went to the AFC title game last year. That kind of disproves your theory. Mm-hmm. I mean, for how bad Bo Nix has been, and he has been bad, they have two losses on the season. They are a superior Minnesota Vikings. They're a team that is so good on defense that they can win without scoring a lot, but they've got a quarterback that can do just enough when push comes to shove. You love their offense. And Jonah Coleman is awesome. I do. He does help. I like their players, but. And they're good. They're going to trade for McBride. So that's pretty cool. Maybe. But they're also going to be trading away superstar Evan Engram at the same time, J.J. No, no, no. He's garnered interest, Mike. I heard it's not likely to happen. That was the Waiver Wire presented by T-Mobile. When you're updating your roster right before kickoff, you've got coverage you can count on. Just another reason game days are better with T-Mobile. Check it out at T-Mobile.com slash membership. Full stream ahead. Well, let's go. Let's quickly throw out these quarterback streamers. Mike and I have both sides of a matchup this week. I've got Bryce Young at New Orleans. Bryce Young had a nice bounce back game last week, fantasy wise. And then Mike has Tyler Shuck against Carolina. I'll take the over. It's a little cheaty. These guys, they weren't started very much last week. 23% start for both of those guys. And understandably so. Pretty excited for them moving forward. I will say Jason, I think, has the best stream. If you really need someone off of waivers, you lost a quarterback or something. Geno Smith plays Buffalo this week at home. He's available in over 75% of leagues. There's a 50 and a half point over under. And I realize that the bills might have looked good the last two weeks. It's nonsense. That was this Carson Wentz offense and Joe Fagnano. Fagnano? Yes. The G is silent. Yes. You've been gone a while. We figured it out. There you go. So, obviously, that's going to help. And did you guys see Geno Smith's tackle? Oh, yeah. Dude, he was a dog. He crushed him. Real dumb to do. But, yeah. I forget who fumbled on that play. But someone fumbled. The other team gets it. And Geno comes up and lays it like a middle linebacker top pick. Geno. And then I think if Aaron Rodgers. By the way, he's hurt now. What's that? No. Oh. So, if you're needing some nasty quarterback starts off the wire. I like Geno. Especially if Garrett Wilson is back. And then Rodgers against Cincinnati. It's not great. Plug your nose. But you should get some production. Do we have any breaking rumors? No. Yes. Rumors. Trades? No. It's just all boring defensive trades. Predictions right now. I am seeing that Travion Henderson could be talked about in some circles. That's it? No. Yeah. Predictions for Jonathan Taylor right now. Colts. We have weeks away. So, you go Colts. Jason. I do think he's going to be traded. So, I'm going to go. I'm going to. I know it's said that it's not going to happen now. But I'm sticking with the Giants. I think it's the Giants if he's traded. I think it's Giants or Pats. Yeah. All right. Nothing, huh? What a bummer. Patriots. You should. And trade Travion Henderson in the process. I just love a team that you can win a Super Bowl. But it would be better if you had a strong running back. I can promise you Travion will not get traded today. There will be 0% chance of that with what he's dealing with. Yeah, I don't think he's going to trade either. All right. We're going to say goodbye. Well, we'll say hello tomorrow. We'll be back. Jason's back. Clean shaven. All my butt hair is gone. Talk to you tomorrow. Goodbye. Bye-bye. Thank you for listening to another episode of the Fantasy Footballers Podcast. Join our fantasy football community on jointhefoot.com and follow us on Twitter at the FFBallers.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The Vikings are facing a critical offensive crisis, and failing to make a trade before the deadline risks losing Justin Jefferson, a key asset.
  2. Kyler Murray is widely seen as a better quarterback than Carson Wentz, with Wentz's performance this week being among the worst in franchise history.
  3. The trade landscape is shifting toward acquiring established quarterbacks like Justin Herbert or Kirk Cousins, with Cousins being a top contender due to his championship pedigree and fit with Minnesota’s strong defense.
  4. Multiple injuries across the league—especially to Puka Nakua, Travis Kelce, and others—are disrupting team strategies and creating urgent fantasy trading opportunities.
  5. Arizona’s quarterback depth is crumbling after injuries to Gardner Minshu, Michael Wilson, and Carson Beck, forcing a realignment of their offensive strategy.
  6. The Chargers, despite a strong performance, are not trading for players like Jordan Mason or Tyler Newsome due to poor usage and lack of fantasy upside.
  7. Waivers are highlighting value in under-the-radar players like Caleb Johnson and Ryan Flanoy, with Caleb Douglas emerging as a high-potential rookie pick.
  8. The podcast criticizes the current state of trade reporting, calling it unreliable and exaggerated, with much of the "news" being speculative or misattributed.

Summary:

The Fantasy Footballers podcast delivers a sharp analysis of the trade deadline week, emphasizing the urgency for the Minnesota Vikings to act before losing Justin Jefferson. With Carson Wentz performing poorly and Kyler Murray proving more effective, the hosts argue that a quarterback trade is essential for any playoff push. They highlight rising injury concerns—especially for Puka Nakua, Michael Wilson, and Josh Jacobs—making depth and roster stability critical.

Arizona’s offensive collapse due to multiple QB injuries further underscores the need for teams to prioritize stability. The discussion also pivots to waiver wire opportunities, spotlighting Caleb Douglas and Jordan Tyson as high-potential, low-risk picks despite their limited exposure. The hosts critique the current media narrative, calling it exaggerated and misleading, with many rumors about trades being unverified or speculative.

They stress that fantasy success hinges on real team performance, not just headlines. Ultimately, the episode calls for pragmatism—focusing on proven players, injuries, and realistic trade value—over chasing hype, especially in a season defined by instability and unpredictability.

FAQs

If you don't make a move before the trade deadline, Justin Jefferson will be traded and not available for your fantasy team. Making a splash to acquire a quarterback is essential to avoid losing a key asset.

Yes, Kirk Cousins is considered one of the most likely quarterback trades for the Vikings, as he has a strong track record and the team's defensive strength makes him a compelling fit, even if he's not currently active on the market.

Puka Nakua suffered a significant injury and is expected to miss the rest of the season. His absence is a major blow to the Rams' offense, and his value as a top target is now under scrutiny.

Yes, if a team trades for a quarterback, they may receive Justin Jefferson as a trade piece. If no trade happens, he will be sold and unavailable to fantasy teams.

Yes, Audrick Estime and Cory Kiner are highlighted as strong waiver wire options, especially for spot starts against tough defenses. Caleb Johnson and Jordan Mason are also considered viable in specific matchups.

Yes, the Cardinals are reportedly signing Joey Aguilar to the active roster, signaling a shift in their quarterback depth, though no major trade has been confirmed yet.

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