Week 10 Preview, and Van Lathan Defends Prince

On today's episode, we go over all the games from week 10, even though immediately in the episode I call it week 11, but it's definitely week 10. We have Kirk Cousins is on the Vikings. We have the Lions and Patriots are playing in Germany, Bangle Steelers is Sunday day football, and Kyle McCord is going to play in an NFL game. And if you heard Craig say that Prince was on his list of songs, he actually irrationally hates like just all Prince songs, then this episode's for you because Van Lathen heard that and literally crashed this episode to have a dialogue with Craig about why he doesn't like Prince. So all that and more after the bring. This episode is presented by Verizon, Verizon knows that holiday decisions and holiday deals can be complicated. Should you spend the holidays with friends or family party all night or stay in and chill and who's actually on your gift list this year? Want a holiday decision that's not complicated? 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This is my brother's desperately trying to get me to go to Giant's Jaguars before Thanksgiving and I keep having that up on my screen. So yeah, we staring at that game. Just flies by. Yeah. Week 10. Yeah. So we have a range of Fernando Mendoza to Kyle McCord and Carson Beck and a Phil Davis. Yeah. Should we just preview week 11 instead of week 10? That's a good bit. Skip the whole week. Just go ahead. We do that every week. We do the look ahead. The look ahead lines. I want to start Vikings right at the Packers this week. Game of the week? Probably. Game of the year? Well, you think so. Yeah. Really? Okay. No, I don't think so. It might be. Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins is on the Minnesota Vikings now. My one stat for Vikings Packers is that the Vikings are six and two and the Packers are six and three. And the loser of this game will be in last place in their division. Right. I think the Packers are currently in last place. Can you imagine if your team was had a better record than not one, but two division winners and then your team missed the playoffs? I have always been like the winner of the division should make the playoffs. But I will say Vikings, some team this year is going to be radicalized if they missed the playoffs. If the Vikings lose a couple game, let's say they lose, you know, I assume fans the second Kirk is back. I think it's probably going to be great. I want to start winning again. If the Vikings end up missing the playoffs because this is a really competitive division, who's to blame? Kevin O'Connell. Because he got the GM fired. Like all the blame was put on Quessie Adolfo Menta, the old GM kind of forgot about that angle too. Yeah. They were for most of the year. And then they fired him in January. Didn't hire the new GM from the sea to like May or June or something. It could have just had Kirk cousins in March. They could have just done that. So I mean, what are you going to do, blame Ryan Flores, like the GM that they just hired in June? Like it's Kevin O'Connell's team. Do you think though, in May, if you're the new GM of Minnesota and somebody says you can have Kyler, Marie, take a shot for a million bucks or you can have Kirk cousins for $7,000. What are you, is that an easy, I know now it seems easy, but was that an easy decision in May to you? Well, I mean, you have to do with Kevin O'Connell things because he's the one who worked with Kirk cousins for two years. So I mean, also, it was in March, like he didn't get to the side. He wasn't there. They already had Kyler when he got brought the guy on. I know, but I guess I'm just saying now it's obvious Kirk is better than Kyler. I think. Does that make sense? That's the point of having Kevin O'Connell as your head coach where you're the offensive coordinator. You were an NFL quarterback. You're the player. You're the quarterback, Whisperer. Your job's to whisper to quarterbacks. So it's like you picked the quarterbacks and he had the option of between a guy, Kirk cousins. Again, knew he might not play the whole season for the Raiders. He wants to play. And if Kevin O'Connell got to Kirk cousins and said you'll play for the season, Kirk cousins would have signed there. And so Kevin O'Connell decided to not work with this guy. And then at the trade deadline was like, well, now you have to because he's the only guy left that could probably come in in week 10 and actually participate. So they forced. I think it makes sense for the Vikings to do it. It makes sense to the third rounder. I will say though, he doesn't have to be as good as he was four years ago. That was four years. It was in a killy's tear ago. Kirk cousins was good. And the offense was really good, even though they, you know, Austin had a good calm with the ringer this week pointing out that, you know, it was a little broncosy. Were they like 11 or 8/4 quarter comebacks? They won like 11-1 score game, 11-1 score games like it was a very fluke Viking season. But it was ironic. The defense sucked. And the Vikings offense was good in 2022. And now it's like the defense is, you know, top five by every metric. It's number one by the I test. The Viking special teams are number one in all the advanced metrics. But the offense, the only team has fewer touchdowns than the Vikings is the chargers. So in a way, to me, it's really simple. Right now the Vikings are scoring one touchdown again. And Kirk cousins needs to get them to two touchdowns again, which is league average. And I think the Vikings, now it's like, okay, you can actually win the Super Bowl if Kirk cousins can get you to two touchdowns again. He has enough to be great. He just needs to be average and not turn the ball over. And it's start to this game because the flip side is that Packers have the most explosive passes in the NFL. I mean, Christian Watson, Matthew Goldman, both top five receiving yards. It's like Puka, JSN, CDLam, Golden and Watson. And the Vikings don't allow these big plays. So I don't know if Kirk doesn't turn the ball over in this game. I'm kind of like, you know, it's, it's really about Jordan love and whether he can overcome the Vikings defense. Minnesota, if you have them in fantasy, their defense has been an automatic start pretty much every single week this year. Do you start them against Green Bay? Yeah. I think you keep with it. Yeah. Even though it's probably not the best matchup certainly of the year for them, but it is, I mean, they just blitz so much they generate so much pressure. They generate havoc, which is, you know, making the quarterback uncertain of where to go with a football, fumbles, picks, fumble recoveries, touchdowns, they kind of do it all. And I think even though this is a really good Packers offense, you still have to start the Vikings. I'm, I'm very fascinated to see what they do to kind of try and slow down this deep passing because the Packers offense has just been incredible lately. I agree with everything you said about cousins. I think if you can just get this offense to, doesn't even have to be league average like 20th, 23rd, I think they have a real chance in the playoffs just because of what they can do on defense. And I mean, that was kind of the, it was a little bit of the equation what the CX did last year, which is like, if they can take care of the football, create a few, generate a few explosive plays with their, their all world receiver, you know, score a few points, but just not turn the ball over. Yeah. That's the big thing with cousins is he, he had a couple of really ugly turnovers in this last game. If he can limit those turnovers, then I think they'll be good. Yeah, cause yesterday we were talking to somebody and they're like, yeah, but can Minnesota really win the Super Bowl with Kirk cousins like, well, come on and we're like, well, look at Seattle last year. I mean, Sam don't let the league in turnovers and they had the defense and had JSN and they won the special. Special teams. Special teams. Great. Rex Grossman made a Super Bowl with the Bears. The cops are like, it's like kind of similar so to the Seattle. Blake Bordles should have made the Super Bowl with the Jaguars. Like, when you have the special teams in the defense or both elite, like you only need average offense to win. Still, it should have beat the Jags, but yeah, we have it. They did. That was a ridiculous. You know what? You know what? It doesn't matter. I will say last thing in this game, the bills did have a very interesting thing they did to the Vikings defense. I was talking to Cody Alexander. He was a great sub stack named match quarters. That's two great things coming out next week that I recommend. And it was like this whole, oh, what do you do with the Vikings? You know, they get up to the line of scrimmage, the defense and did you all this bullshit, right? They're like, oh, there's seven guys and people drop back. That's the new thing of this year. It's like, we bring eight guys up to the line. You don't know who's coming. That's the new like you don't two guys taking the top off the defense. Now it's like, you don't know who's blitzed. You don't know what we're going to do. So you know what the bills did in the second half that everyone's going to, that I wonder if the packers could do this year or this week? Just fucking snap the ball. Like that's what the bills did in the second half. You call the play quick. You get to the line of scrimmage and you snap the ball before they do all their freaking whatever bullshit. When they walk up the line and they're all staring at you and people are kind of jabbing in and out. And like when it's almost like for the benefit of your offensive line, like it's, it's, it's neutralizing the intimidation factor, what, you know what I mean, like further, it's, it's more for their offensive line because they're still doing what they're doing with, you know, like dropping certain guys out and blitzing other guys and whatever. It's still confusing, but at the very least it seems like they're just not the offensive line. I don't have to think about it that way because what is it, what is it, what is it change going fast? It doesn't change what they're doing on defense. It changes what they're pretending to do because there are some things, they actually have a lot of autonomy. So one of the reasons the bills, I think, played really well versus them is the bills don't pull their guards a lot in the running game. It's like what Nate Tyson, he talks about, but it's like, do you do man locking? We should just go get that guy or a zone where you're pulling guards or whatever. You don't want to pull guards. Tom Brady always talks about this. Don't pull guards at the goal line. You know why? Because the Vikings, if the guy pulls, they have the autonomy to be like, I'm supposed to do this, but he just left the whole thing and I'm forward. But like, can I say something, do she to prove a point? It's like, it's like, that I was never going to hit Craig, but like that's what the Vikings do on defense, which is like, they're pretending to do some bullshit. And it's like, when you let them do all their fake shit, the more time. You wait to snap the ball the more confusion they cause and it's like snap the ball not just snap the ball before they do all the stupid stuff I'm sorry I didn't actually no no, but it's like they're just kind of trying to know. I love this Lynch Yeah, you loved it. Yeah anyway, let's get speaking of other things you'll love what we're a Minnesota We have to let the people of Minnesota speak So no, I know where this is going the I'm ready. I'm ready to get do you want to break over the coals? Do you want to explain? I don't want to put words in your mouth. Do you explain the song months we're doing and what happened? Yeah, we're doing a segment at the end of every show called Songs you a rationally hate and I actually nominated all of Princess catalog and I made it that for some reason while acknowledging his craft and talent and clear skill One of the wall time grades for some the music doesn't doesn't do it for me. It just doesn't He a rationally hates it. Yeah, I don't it's a rational, but it is it is how I feel so I Would like to read so we got as you can imagine quite a lot of feedback of this. Yeah, he's popular guy I want to read some people like this guy. Yeah Yeah, I want to read some feedback we got about Craig saying I don't like not just purple rain But prints in general. Yeah, and I'm gonna read them This is the order of the email. This is a sequence of emails. I got in order. Yeah, like I'm not cherry pick This is I try to prepare myself for this. I need so this is correct that I'm receiving this kind of feedback I think I'm just gonna go ahead and just blow through some of these starting with I never thought anything would beat the Hanson blow up, but here we are Seriously, you can just run that awful take as the entire stupid court and show because I never could imagine anything being dumb Or than that the Hanson blow up that the bomb thing. Yeah So the if it's saying that bomb was less famous than my chemical romance You can't remember the song. Yeah, so the next email a swipe Craig is absolutely right about print. Oh my god That was me. I was my burner next email Craig should be removed from the show Kick him off the tour, Doug security next show Spended next email. Please redact my name because I'm from Minnesota could not agree more with Craig Prince Dinks I'm like you're not allowed to not like Prince from and if you're a Minnesota I think next email this just confirms that Craig is the whitest person. I don't know what a soul is take Next email Craig and hypothesis prints takes are anecdotal evidence that this is the whitest thing you guys have ever said Wait, what was hypothesis that you they were mad that I was kind of agree. Yeah, yeah, I just stood near him He didn't say he didn't agree. He was like I always said was now that you put it now you say it my friends Don't play a lot of prints either and many of my friends are white. So I guess that is true But like yeah, no, it's I'm really the whitest guy that guy's never met on the whitest guy that guy doesn't know That's a lot kind of crazy. Oh, oh god. What are you doing? Oh, Van? Speaking of the mic last time speaking of the mic Van Lathen see I just heard Craig just like is this timing. Did you know I'm we're talking about prints or no? Well, I left I left my t-shirt in here. Okay, and you just decided to barge I was coming to get the t-shirt and then Austin says that you're in here making racist statements And so I want to hear I want to hear all right the prints take. Why do you hate prints? Well first? Let me tell you what the category is okay What's the character at the end of every show we name a song we do theme months this month is songs you a rash Erashenly hate okay, you don't know why it doesn't work all right We've been doing songs all month everybody going around the corner sweet and I said for some reason Princess music is never done it for me Okay, what's it what Hey, hey, you know what every person in the world. That's like Prince. That's not true. Right. That's not true That's right. I don't want to take up too much oxygen on this podcast that is beloved by its fan base because this fan base is very protective over you guys So I want to say I love these guys Our fans hate that he said it by Prince - don't we're mad at it as well. DK doesn't like drop it like it's how I snipped up So okay, let that's I also Okay, so what is give me the Quinta let's talk about this give me the quintessential print song that you cannot engage all of his Like kiss and when does cry and purple rain none of those songs you don't like purple rain. Yeah, not really okay sweet You don't he doesn't like purple rain on the rewatchables. I watched the movie. I didn't really like the movie You didn't like the movie no, I don't think it's not great of a movie I think I think it's a movie that surrounds great performances I think when Prince is performing the movie shines. I think everything in between those not great Okay, so I mean, it's not acted by like Thespians and stuff like that. It's a fantastic movie one of the best music But you don't like Prince. What do you what do you not like? I don't know do you not like the fact I haven't analyzed it One of the most gifted musicians ever Of course, every single instrument you wrote a whole but he changed the sound Yeah, sure I acknowledge all that I said that you could listen to that was like physically beautiful man Of course sure gifted performer great at basketball rock a rocker a whole same performance Compete Superbowl performance can play every instrument. He's like by the way I got a stable of beautiful women daddy Okay, every single box to be in a legend. He checks it look people can acknowledge that LeBron James is one of the best basketball players ever and still be like LeBron Not for me right I can actually understand that analogy but at the same time Saying that you don't like princess music is saying that princess music comes on and your body does nothing. Yeah, who do you like give me tell me somebody? I like favorite band. I don't know. I like a million different people. He likes the bg's. I like the bg's a lot. Okay I like them as well. Okay I was ready for you to say like Jimmy eat world or something No, so that I don't really actually love like being full punk out rockers. Okay, cool. So then all right. I guess I'm trying to say so how many prints on Name is me print songs as you can. I'll get killed. I don't know the names of songs. I don't know. We did yet kiss when does cry Purple rain darling Nikki. Okay. Whatever. I don't know. You got something. Okay. If I send you some I like yeah, like some make a playlist. I would love that make a mix tape when it don't matter. Okay diamonds and pearls Some later prints. Okay, princess version of nothing compares to you. Like some later some some prints. I'm open to it. Yeah, you can try it out right Like mountains. Yeah, maybe some songs. Maybe maybe we get you in there. Mm-hmm. But as your friend. Okay I consider you to be my friend, right me too. Yeah, as your friend This is something that must be changed But what you're saying is everyone has to like prints. Yes. Okay Fair that's great you and you know, it's something else. I'll be ready for before I go. Yeah, you've shown an ability Great, because why things are happening the way they are for you guys all you guys you've shown an ability to be open to new Experiences. Yeah, when I first did the relaunchables with you you complained about too much boob Wrong I pointed out the how unnecessary it was for what the movie was trying to do now now I get it You're the type of man that sees titties as necessary And that now there are 80s movies where I'm like nope no boob's right this could have used something and I'm Telling you yeah, one day you're gonna come in here like Strong opinions loosely help. That's how I like to live my life. And that's why I love you. There you go Did you get your shirt? Okay, thanks man Van Lathen ladies and gentlemen, I got to be honest. I feel like I kind of survived that Play was upside down for a moment, but I landed it you survived the ambush That's right. I was prepared to do the hedges thing and D. Can I just like back up. Yeah The bg's he was like okay didn't expect that you notice how hyphids got up and walk way over here and then just stayed silent the whole time that way I'm out of the shot And you notice I didn't I didn't add hyphids to this. I didn't throw them. I know you did a lot of my take. That was a test I actually that was actually a great friend move. I actually now that I think about it Took it on like he said the same thing and like I just then it would have cut to be very funny if Craig goes I've it said it to What I'm gonna do is I'm gonna get van to admit that that bill whether songs are knowing as hell That's well. Yeah, we'll come back. I will say, but I kind of survived that was a you you could have thrown out of the bus No, no, you're honest question because I'm being honest that that was a good friend move Yeah, did you forget and now you wish you had no or was it like I mean because that's your dick end of the bus You didn't mention Justin Timberlake I know that I'm aware That was good because I actually can't tell you how angry the fans were and that was like a good he was like the avatar Well, there's a couple people on my side now they were a small minority. They requested to be anonymous. Yeah They wouldn't put their names out cowards. Okay. Well, I think that was what I like how he's you're like wait So you say everyone has to like prince. Yes All right, where were we we were so we just finished the Vikings right next game Seahawks are at the Raiders Which is again Raiders are straight Kirch ourselves Raiders we're skipping Steelers Bengals. Oh sure Come on fun. It's the second game of the week. Wouldn't you say? Son of that football. Oh, it's important. Steelers Bengals both six and two. I just figured you would like needed to recover like take a breath I'm the ambush, but yeah, I see to put on some bg's calm down more than a woman That makes you calm down. Yeah, it's a great song. Okay. Here's my stat. This is this is from Craig analytics. I pulled this out of my own Since 2022 because you know, I always talk about how Jamar chase destroys the Steelers and the Steelers It's historically have been terrible against like the number one wide receiver on the opposing team since 2022 Jamar chase when Jamar chase plays the Steelers and Joe burrow is the quarterback. He averages 21 fantasy points a game Which is basically he's by far the highest scoring wide receiver in fantasy whenever him and Joe burrow play the Pittsburgh Steelers He becomes triple crown Cooper cup and this year's jacks since Myth and Jigba, whenever he plays his tears. - I think that really is a function of Mike Tom when having this approach to defense that's this pure, it's about execution. And then like they just played Jamar Chase and Tehagin's every time in the Steelers cornerbacks have sucked. And it's like, why can't we out execute Jamar Chase and Tehagin's, again, Joe Flacco shut up there. I'm like three days noticed from the Browns trade. And then Jamar Chase got 23 targets. And now Mike Tom is on Sunday at football every night, telling other coaches how to do their job. And I'm like, how did Jamar Chase get 23 targets and Joe Flacco? - Jamar Chase averages 103 yards and a full touchdown every time he plays the Steelers. - So wild. - I will say this is an interesting game because also I think this is a sneaky, Steelers offensive line's good and young and it is good and young. - Because again, Rogers and Cam Hayward and Watt and some of these guys and even DKMEC have a kind of older than you think. - Yeah. - Steelers are lines pretty young. Dexter Lawrence has been playing great. Like Dexter Lawrence is great last week and I actually would be interested to see if they can hold up because Dexter Lawrence, if he gets the pressure and Rogers is going to get rid of that ball, the moment he sees that story. - I think whoever wins this game is going to win the division and if I had to bet, I would say that I think that Bengals are much more likely to win the division to be honest. The Steelers are playing really well, but this game is a little bit of, so the Steelers beat them in week three by three. And I do think there's a little bit of like, who's for real and who's the fraud in this game? Because when you look at both these team schedules like they're both six and two, it is a thin resume. Like the Bengals have beaten so far this year, they're marquee wins, Texans in week two without Nico Collins, they beat the Ravens without Lamar, and they beat the Bucks in week one, that's it. Those are like the Bengals marquee wins, six and two. Steelers, same thing, you hit me on this few weeks ago. They beat the Bengals by three, they beat the Browns once. And that's kind of it. So I do think this game is like, okay, one of you is going to be for real and both their schedules are easy. I think the Bengals is way easier. I was going through it. I think the Bengals could win 12 or 13 games this year, dude. The Bengals go on to play, if they can beat the Steelers, they play Washington, they play the Saints, the Browns, the Panthers, the Colts, the Browns again, and the Ravens. I think they could win literally every one of those games. Where do you win 13 games? - Warren Sharp had them as, I think the Bengals are the easiest scheduling NFL for the rest of the season. - I mean, outside of the Steelers this coming week, and then they play the Chiefs. Outside of those two games, I think every other game they'll be favored by like a touchdown. - Next game here, the Seattle CXR, the Raiders, Fernando Mendoza's NFL debut is against the defending champion, CX Defense. - Yeah, this is pretty crazy. I saw this staff from Josh Dubau. First overall selection, first overall quarterback selection, I should say, to make his first start against the defending Super Bowl champions in NFL history. So that's like a tough draw for Mendoza. Obviously, the CXD defense is still intact. It's still a Super Bowl caliber defense. One of the best defense is in the NFL. I think it's probably down to the Vikings and CXR right now. And my staff for this game is the CXF41% pressure rate on the year, which is second only to the Vikings. This is going to be a massive test for Mendoza. Really difficult spot to come in. I understand why the Raiders did what they did in trading cousins 'cause you could get that value for him. But this is tough. - DK, you're a NFL draft expert here for us at the ringer. Do your NFL draft guide. You scout all the quarterbacks. Can you remind us? Actually, Fernando Mendoza, not playing has been reduced to like a state farm character where he's like, you know, all the, what is the gangsters in paradise over that state farm where he's like, you know, whatever, doing whatever in Las Vegas. Can you remind us who he actually is? 'Cause I mean, Fernando Mendoza played so long ago in college, they were like only 12 teams in the college football playoff. Like, that's how long ago since then. - Yeah. I mean, he's a, he's a big tall, pretty decently armed. It's not, I wouldn't say he has a cannon, but he has a good arm to make every throw. He can layer and he can like, change his pitch or whatever on different types of throws. As Brady says, the one throw, the two throw, the three throw. He can do all those. Great at the back shoulder throw. That was one of his kind of signature throws in college. Just timing. - Great at the back. - Just timing in accuracy, getting the ball to where his receivers could get it. - That's Serrat. - Well, that's just Serrat at 15 touchdowns last year. It was the most called football. He's not even that athletic. It was just kind of like Devonta Adams's timing. - So I think he understands throwing the ball to the leverage of the receiver. So where the receiver has the best chance of putting to getting the bat to pass. And then he's also got some athleticism to make plays like that big iconic run. He made late in the season. - It was an industrial championship. The one that basically won them the game. - He spun off a three different guys, took a hit and dived into the end zone. - He's like underratedly big. - Right, he's like six five. - Yeah. - And so he has kind of all the tools that you want. I don't think he has elite arm or speed or anything, but he's a big strong and accurate and a good decision maker. I think it's the other thing. - Do you think he's got any shot in this game? - I mean, it's gonna be tough. I certainly has a shot. I wouldn't bet on him putting up numbers in this game. - I've probably bet the over on action gente catches in this game. - Right. - I think they're going to design an offense. The other variable here that's really fascinating is Clint Kubiak against his former team. And if anyone knows how to beat the McDonald defense, it might be Kubiak who practices against him and like prepared with McDonald all of last year. - And also don't forget that it's Kubiak offense accorded, again, offense accordion last year for Seattle. Also probably knows how to play the defense against the offense for Seattle, which is the underrated part 'cause the Raiders defense is really only impacted games when they can get like huge plays, turnovers, but they're not really getting down to down success. It's like a massive plays, but it wouldn't exactly be weird. Like if Donald first three picks in this game, probably be like, oh, maybe Kubiak had an idea of how to beat Sam Darnol, you know what I mean? So that wouldn't exist. - Well, it's not Darnol, it's True Lock. - Right. - Which is another variable here. True Lock is going to start form for the CX. Also banged up, he has a oblique injury. - How did you think his elbow looked last week? - I thought it was fine. He actually made a couple of really nice throws over the middle of field. Like he would change his arm angle a little bit and kind of whip it in there. I'm more worried about his oblique because that's what's been keeping him limited and practiced this week. But I mean, it's going to be a chess match. Like Kubiak versus McDonald thing is a fascinating thing just because they know each other so well. And maybe that means Kubiak completely changes up what he usually does. Maybe that means McDonald blitzes a bunch in this game to kind of try and throw people off because usually the CX don't blitz that much. So I think it's going to be a fun game to watch from that point of view. I would put my money on the CX defense, kind of putting the clamps on the raiders because they don't run the ball well. The CX have a great run defense. - If there was a, so again, things happen in threes. We had Rashon Gary shit himself on Sunday. James Cook shit himself on Monday. If there's a player that shit gets shit himself. Like for it, it's Fernando Mendoza the favorite. It's one of the three rookie quarterbacks. - We can have silver pants in this game. - Silver pants helps a little bit. - Silver pants is tough. It's probably, I mean, Comic Core dolphins. That's probably a pretty high candidate. But then I'm in Carson Beck first Aaron Donald, the mouse Gary. I think it's going to be one of them. - They have white pants too. - Maybe, and if the players should wear adult diapers. - Yeah. - I think that's not a bad idea. I mean, James Cook, when he was like, I didn't shit himself, I'm like, I bet he didn't even know. - 'Cause if you just, yeah, if you wear the diapers, you're free to do whatever you want during the game. - I mean, yeah. - No bathroom breaks. - Can't you hear the crinkling and whatnot? - Well, we definitely. - You could probably see the outline of that. - Well, are you thinking of baby diapers? Is there like a-- - What kind of diapers are you talking about? - Adult. - Like what do they look like? I don't know what adult diapers are. - Well, I'll be where. - I think it depends. - It depends. - Can we make like an athlete version of a diaper? - Instead of a sniffing that depends ads, it's yeah. It's James Cook. - Yeah. - Get like an astronaut diaper. - Yeah. - Do you think? - Yeah, they astronaut diapers. That's what we should call 'em. 'Cause depends is for old people. - Astronaut diapers is for astronauts. - It's for the smart people. - Yeah. - Astronaut diapers, that's like-- - They're in fucking space. - I feel like I would, would you, yeah. That's pretty good. - Yeah. - I don't know. Do you think if you told a player, hey, you can just piss in your pants. You don't have to leave the game. You're like, great, where do I sign? - Players would love that. - Yeah. - They pissed their pants all the time. - It's fine. - I was sweating. - Exactly. They're working hard. Okay. - Next game here is the 49ers who have the cowboys. - I made up a stat. - Okay. - My god, this is DK Analytics. - The juice per game, the cowboys are dead last. - Okay. - The amount of juice per game. They have no juice. Their offense is pretty good. Their defense stinks. They are the 29th ranked defense, according to DVOA. Everyone was really excited about this cowboys defense coming into the season. Christian Parker, the new DC. And it's just been absolutely terrible. - That's not the stat I thought you were going to make up. I thought you were going to make up. How many games have you watched non-cowboys division when you asked yourself, is the defense trying? - Right. - That was what I was getting out with the juice per game thing. They've been very low juice in at least three games. They just, they look like they don't care. They look like they don't care, which is crazy. And I don't say that lightly. I mean, I understand this probably, like, maybe a fisting cowboys fans off, but like when you watch their defense, it's just pathetic. It's pathetic. It's just so frustrating. - We're sure they get all out of the field. - And they're going up against the 49ers offense. That's very good. They are very banged up. It's going to be an interesting thing to see Keenan Allen his first game with the 49ers offense. I don't think he knows the offense super well yet, but I'm sure he'll play him and he kind of, he can they go run some rounds for him. - He's been on five teams in five years. - He'll figure it out. - I feel like he'll be fine. - So wild hogs, expendables, asses. - I thought it was. - And DVO I think is coming back, right? - Yeah, DVO should be playing, so that'll help things, but I was reading Matt Harman does reception perception and he charted Mike Evans this year and last year. And Evans is not very good anymore. Again, zone defense, he just can't beat zones, but he's very good in man situation. So he can still route people up and get open on third downs. It's kind of like the Joanne Jennings role. - What are you talking about Keenan Allen or Mike Evans? - Keenan Allen, sorry. - Okay. - Did I say Mike Evans? - Yeah. - He's very good in man coverage situations where he can be coverage, get open, make, make, like short in a meeting area. - He's very running in footwork and boxing people out of body positioning and things like that. - So and Mike Evans is probably not going to play in this game by the way. - I know, they're really, they're taking the long game approach with Mike Evans, which I think is very smart. They're seven. - Well, why is it a Killie's thing? And Drake Greenlaw towards a Killie's running out of the field in the Super Bowl. And honestly Kyle Shanahan said multiple times, he thinks the Niners lost that Chief Super Bowl because Drake Greenlaw got hurt and he's like, that was the turning point. of the game. I think they're very sensitive to the Achilles. Christian McAfrey as well. So I get it. Like I feel like they don't need to rush him back because I feel like he's at the point now where Mike Evans is always kind of hurt but could always kind of play if he needed to. They're just seven wins. It's just playing in the playoffs. Yeah, fine. Also, I think that I'm shocked this is four and a half points. I think the Niners are going to destroy them. I would say the same thing. I guess the the only pushback would be that Dallas's offense can put up 30 points maybe and keep this game somewhat close. And they're down 12 points with three minutes left and they go score a touchdown and cover. Yeah, I don't know. Yeah, maybe we'll see. I agree with you though. Fandals making this your most rewarding season and in the spirit of giving. Craig and I are going to give our favorite touchdown score of the weekend. Mine is Amana St. Brown because they're going to Germany. He speaks German. He's kind of become the face of these games in Germany and they're playing the Patriots who've given up the most 20-yard completions in the NFL other than Lions and also crucially. Amana is really mean to Jared Goff when he doesn't get the ball. He asks for what he wants. He's not like going to be all polite. And if you watch the Lions at the goal line, they'll really like shamelessly force Amana the ball. So I think he's the single best bet to score this weekend regardless of what the odds are because he will score. I'm going to go with Jamar Chase and Tiggins to have touchdowns against Pittsburgh. Jamar Chase is basically like he's already a generational player and yet when he plays the Steelers, he's somehow better. He averages it. I touched down every time he plays the Steelers. I'd put Higgins and Jamar Chase together. You get three and a half to one. Steelers can't defend receivers. It was like a player to record a 10-yard catch Amana's minus 7,000. But the touchdown, if you do both those, oh, Amana is only minus one 10 at score. I know. Jamar Chase is only minus 120. I would absolutely take that. Higgins is plus 115. I would take that. Should we do all three? Should we just do Chase? I kind of want to just do Chase. Amana. I'm sure. That's two and after one. Okay. Boom. Chase and Amana are to both score. Let's do that. Sorry, I'm switching tabs. You can cut the little snip. People who have never edited stuff, and this is not a shot, but it's always funny when it's like, Cam, Mark that when I stopped and I was doing thing blah, blah, blah. Cam's like, I was like, yeah, obviously I'm working. You know what, fucking, you know what, can't fucking keep it. Keep it, Cam. Check out our bet in the Fandal app and remember that Fandal is helping make this your most rewarding season ever. The next game. So the Patriots are at the Detroit Lions. Yeah. This is the Rainbow Strip game. The Lions, I couldn't believe this. The Lions and Patriots have allowed the most completions of 20 plus yards this year. The two defaults. Yeah, the Patriots were like last another first. Well, this is in Munich. Yes, this game's in Munich, and this is the stadium that the Bayern Munich plays in. And I will say, I know it's not been like this justice season, but I do think that these like high level soccer fields they plan in Europe are obviously completely different than some of the stadiums they go to in, you know, Brazil and the, you know, Premier League games or, you know, Bundesliga games. I think the NFL has kind of figured out that like, hey, we could have people complain about the quality of the fields and like, have the turf kick up, and Jordan Love hurts his foot or hurts his knee on the field of Brazil. Or when we have it at that Premier League quality grass, the deep, the offenses play better. And they're like, when we put marquee teams on these and the offenses look good, the London games, the Europe games are way more entertaining. And they know that window is so valuable. And they want to get to a 16 game window in the early windows. So I kind of think this is going to get a fast track between the two teams who've given up the most big plays. And I'm like, and again, they always said I'm on my same brown to Germany now because he does like the post game interviews in German, but I'm like, I don't know. I feel like he's, I locked half a touchdown this week. But I also think the Patriots are going to just, I don't know, this is, I think this game's going to be like 38, 34, kind of an incredible early morning game. It's another brutal stretch for Drake Man in terms of who he's able to get the ball to. I mean, AJ Brown is traveling with the team. Don't know if he's going to play Ramon Dre also banged up. So now we're looking at and no trade in Henderson as well. No Romeo dobs. So it's like pop Douglas and the running back is Corey Keiner. And that's kind of what he's working. That's wild. And I think they're okay. I kind of like to trade. I don't blame it. I don't want to bet on it because it's in Germany and all this stuff. But I will say again, shout out Cody Alexander, great sub stack match quarters. And he has a great video coming out next week on Drake Man. And he's like, what is wrong with Drake Man? Like what happened? Why did he revert regress last week? You get a little preview of this content from Cody. Yeah, talk to Cody. Inside source. I know. You get to say it. But he had a great take on Drake May, which was and it reminded me that the Super Bowl, when obviously the Patriots got shallacked, they might have Julian love who's the safety for the sea. I've had an interception in the Super Bowl. And they might have Julian love and he comes off the field from the pick in the Super Bowl. And he's like says about Drake May classic young quarterback knows where to go at the ball, but needs an extra second to make sure he's out. And he's not throwing it blindly like Matt Stafford. That's a cool whoa. Yeah, that's on the field. And that is the essence of being a young quarterback where like you think you know the answer. But you want to see sure. So there's the delay. It's second guessing, really. Second guessing. So there, you know, there's an old man confidence, a dad confidence or whatever that maybe Stafford has that Drake may doesn't. And it's the other thing is I think Josh McDaniels is still kind of treating Drake may a little bit like Tom Brady. And like it's a little bit like the schemes a little to 2016 and not 2026. And what I mean by that, Cody made a great point that one of the picks last week was from Evan Williams, the safety and the backers. And it's coverage is so complicated. But basically it's like a three by one. So three receivers are on one side, one receives on the other. But it's like two high safeties. So they go, okay, well, the safety is going to move over. Right. And that's like what happens on the white board is book smart and Drake may book smart. But then there's like street smart. So he's book smart and he's like, oh, well, when the safety is move, they're going to move towards the trips. Yeah. And then the backside this post on the backside will come open. That's the right answer on the test and the whiteboard. Oh, good job. You know your flashcards. But what actually happens is he looks at three by one. Oh, yeah, the safety moves over little. I'll throw there. Well, the safety is cheating. Like it's a defender in the three point. And his safety is waiting taking the step. Yeah. And then waiting for he knows. So then he waits and Drake may does the correct thing. The second he throws it. Evan Williams runs over and gets a tip pass and he picks it off. Yeah. So you know, who can understand the nuances of like, it's basically a pump fake from a safety kind of or cheat, maybe cheating on a bad three point shooters. A better example of basketball. But like when you have Tom Brady, Tom Brady can figure that shit out in the moment. But Drake may is doing the right thing. But it's like sometimes you're doing the book smart thing and you're like, well, me. So he's not street smart yet. But I think that's Josh McDaniel's fall more than Drake may. And so I don't know. I don't know if the line to the team to take advantage of that. But I do think that's what's going on with him. So anyway. Yeah, just a beat late. He's a beat. It's the it's it's it's kind of like Herbert's problem this year too. Yes. I mean, Herbert also is re like refuses to read dropping defenders. So that's like a huge problem. It's why he has so many picks. But like everything is just late. It is. And it's as it defences can take it. Shuffle like a shortstop throw on it. It's just like an extra pitch. You ever seen the gentleman, the guy Richie, not the TV show's good, but the movies and movies. In most of my brothers favorite movie, but Macbacca, I just plays just like we deal in England. And it's amazing. But he's like, he's it's ironically to be hesitating. He's like, I can't remember. He's like, nobody's like I froze. He hesitations needs to doubt and doubt is like the like you're downfall or whatever. I think ironically can't remember it. But I look it up. But when you introduce hesitation to a game where the difference is you know, holding onto the ball for really like pathetically too little and pathetically too long is like eight tenths of a second. It's really important when we can visually see you to hold me ball too long. All right. Next. This whole bucket is speaking of Herbert. The next bucket of games I called fascinating derocatory. Yes. So this game, the chargers, this is Monday night football. The chargers are at Baltimore. Monday night football. My one thing is the national football league. It's not a stat. Okay. It's is this the worst Monday night football game of the decade of the 2020s? And I went back and I looked at every single one in quarterback starting. And I want to I want to list you guys the nominees and we can decide what what what was the worst Monday night football game of the 2020s? And is this it? Let's go to last year week four was a double header. Last year. Yes. The own week four, Oh and three Jets with Justin Fields versus the Oh and three Dolphins with Tua paired with the two and one Bengals with Jake Browning versus the one and two Broncos with Bonex. That's a Monday night. That's pretty rough right now. I mean, that's hard to be. We have a 2024 week four double header Titans Oh and three with Will Levis versus a one and two Dolphins with Tyler Huntley. That alone I think is the worst game, but you pair it with Gino and the Seahawks versus the Lions and golf. So you probably get rid of that game. It was great if I remember. That was when Ken Walker did the Suplex, I think. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the backflow thing. I think so. 2024 week 15. You have the six and seven Falcons with Kurt Cousins facing the two and 11 Raiders with Desmond Ritter. Ritter. Fuck it. Forgot about Desmond Ritter. Week 12, 2022. You have the three and seven Steelers with Kenny Pickett versus the four six and one Colts with Matt Ryan. The Matt Ryan. The Matt Ryan Colts. Two more week eight 2021 week eight 2021. You have the eight and seven Dolphins with two facing the seven and eight Saints with Ian Book. Oh, my God. Okay. And then in 2020 week 17, you have the seven and nine Washington football team with Alex Smith versus the four 11 and one Eagles when Jalen Hertz got benched Nate Sudfeld came in or he got hurt. I can't remember. That was back when it's seeing Alex Smith walk around was both like really inspiring, but seeing get hit was horrifying. Or you have the only Justin Herbert Chargers facing Jacoby Berset in the four and five last place, Raven. - I think this one's more interesting. I think the fields versus two at Dolphins is pretty bad. - Last week, week four. I think that takes-- - Not pick it versus Matt Ryan on the Colts. - That's pretty funny. - Well, Levis was Tyler Huntly in the Dolphins. That's pretty bad. I will say though, I think this game is, I actually think it's about as interesting as a horrible game can get. - Why I think the Chargers must watch, as you know. - Well, also, it's kinda-- - It's kind of confusing. - But it's crazy 'cause it's the Raven's post John Harbaugh versus the Chargers of the downfall of Jim Harbaugh and we keep watching Jim Harbaugh again. - But that's interesting off the field watching that's not that fun. - No, but like the Chargers organization, like when Jim took, again, all the people in the Chargers for an office, so many of them came from the Ravens. Like these are the people. Again, what do we even say about the Trade Deadline? The Ravens don't act like the Ravens anymore, right? Like the Ravens trading a second rounder for a center and like the Max, well, the Max Crosby thing, actually the Ravens have kinda done the medical thing before, but like they've just been tilting all year. Like Eric DeCosta, the GM is his job. I don't know what's going on, but like between the Max Crosby trade, between everything they're doing, the Ravens just, they're not behaving like them, but also the collapses have stayed. But a lot of those people went to the Chargers. So I think, I don't know. I think that it's a weird, I think at the bare minimum, it will be very interesting to watch Jesse Minter, who is the Ravens at Coach, who again came from the Chargers, right? It's a very, it's incestual. It's a very incestual game. Again, all that sounds very interesting in an article. That doesn't sound interesting when I watch it and Justin Herbert's like two for nine. Will it be interesting when Kyle Haydton is two picks sixes in this game on Justin Herbert? I, yeah, I mean, in like a morbidly fascinating way. Sure. (laughing) I think fascinating is that if it's not morbid, but the Chargers. I'm excited to see what Berset can do for the Ravens offense. If you can like provide a spark for Zay Flowers, this is like a mainly a fantasy thing. Can he provide a spark for Zay Flowers, Derek Henry, what's Derek Henry's situation going to be like the rest of the year? You know, how quickly can push that kind of thing? Oh, are the Chargers gonna quit? Because they didn't trade anybody. Even the one trade they made. They tried to make a trade. They tried, they tried. And then the Broncos were kind of like, "Yeah, we looked at his knee." And it's like a shake down. They're like, "Yeah, we want the deadlines passed." "Well, we'll give you this." Did they try to get that? Bless. Oh, the Broncos tried to negotiate it down and who knows what's wrong with his knee versus the whole like, "Yeah." But it's like at that point, fuck it. But they didn't make a move. And at, look, at some point, it's hard to play defense when the offense is that bad. And again, the fewest points in the NFL. But I don't know. At some point, the defense quits and then everything get. Like basically, this can get worse is my point. This can get a lot worse. No one wants to get better. Absolutely. I think the only interesting thing is from a fantasy perspective can reset, revive Zay Flowers and Derek Henry. The Chargers, you're not starting a single one unless you're in some saw-like fantasy football death trap situation, otherwise not a single player. No, yeah. Next, speaking of the fascinating, but derogatory, yeah. I got another one here. Rams-- so the Rams are playing the Cardinals in Arizona. The five and four Rams versus the three and six Cardinals. Kind of remarkable. These teams are only two wins apart. Here's my one stat for this game. Of the eight wide receivers involved in this game, the eight wide receivers on both teams across both teams that will be playing. All eight of them have combined for 18 catches this season. Eight receivers playing in this game have caught 18 passes total this season. Name them off. Name them off to play. So the Rams wide receivers that will be in this game, Tutu Atwell, who has seven catches this year. Canada Mumfield, who has 11 catches this year. CJ Daniels, the rookie, who has zero, an Xavier Smith, who has zero. That's it. 18 passes. Put that in target. Sorry, to put that in context. Puka had 19 targets last week. Yeah, I'm doing pretty good. I know, but like they like Puka had 17 catches in a game this year. I think this is legitimately unprecedented. I don't, there's no way it's ever been lower than 18 and before the modern football started. In the Cardinals side, here are the receivers. Seemey Fahoko, who has won catch this year. Rookie Reggie Virgil, who has three catches this year. Devin DuVernay, who has four. And somebody named Harrison Wallace III, who's a rookie, who has zero. So the Cardinals players playing in this game, the receivers have a total of eight catches this year. Eight. Holy shit. And also not to mention that Carson Beck is going to make his debut. Absolutely. Minchie is hurt. And you have Jacoby Bressette traded. So Carson, this is a horrific spot for Carson Beck to come in. He could argue it's worse than, I think it's probably worse than Fernando. Mendoza has a great coordinator. He's got Brock Bowers, Kirk Hussens been mentoring. Carson Beck's been competing with, you know, he's had Minchie's Bressette. It's like, you know, this kind of receiving core against, again, Miles Garrett looked back last week. Like Miles Garrett is half way to the amount of pressure that he's three sacks in the game. Yeah. You had Johnny Bowers, I mean, he doesn't have Tremac bride. But yes. Okay, fine. Fair enough. But like, dude, it's Aaron, this is the first game where Aaron Donald and Miles Garrett, you're going in. You're like, oh, fuck, like he's back. We have to ask. We have the games like Cardinals back up, because I feel like we'll see him. Oh, wow. Yeah. Who is the back? The tight end versus wide receiver targets in this game might be the most imbalance we've ever seen with McBride, Higby, and whoever you also want to say Davis Allen. Oh, it's Josh Johnson. It's Josh Johnson. Yeah. But if he, but the back of him is Joe, it's the punter now. I don't think they even have a third quarterback on the Cardinals. Okay. So, holy yeah. Carson Beck. I was not like really bullish on him being a great NFL player or something. Obviously, you know, he wasn't drafted really high. But his whole thing of like, you know, at least he's a very experienced player. The most starts ever in college. He's just a very high. 55 starts or something. The, I think, but next up, like 61. But this is, I'm trying to be polite, but like he's the one who's going to shit himself, right? Like this is, this is, this is not fair. This is unbelievable. Hopefully, they were in the red pants. I think they have to wear the red pants. I think that's right. The next game, the fascinating, but derogatory, the Houston Texans are at the Cleveland Browns, to Sean Watson versus the Houston Texans, right. So is this the first time? It's the second time. Believe it or not, the first time was right. It was this first game as a Brown. They got traded. The Browns got the unprecedented NBA supermanck that a five year fully guaranteed contract, $230 million. And then he had a first, the 11 game suspension, no, he served the 11 game suspension. And then his 12th game was against the, the Texans. But that was, they were terrible. They were like one in 10 or something, they got to just drown the second pick. Do you think the NFL was like, how long is his suspension? Let's have Texans Browns and weak blank whenever he's back. Crazy. So yeah, I forgot. That was his first game and he beat the Texans, but this is now he's going to play. And so I figured, so this is the last year of this to Sean Watson contract, which I think is widely like the worst trade and end of the history. And I mean, again, the owners kind of had to maybe possibly lightly collude against Lamar Jackson to prevent anyone else ever getting a five year guarantee contract again. So my one stat for Texans Browns, now that this whole thing is kind of wrapping up at the end of the year is, I just looked at EPA per play from 2022 to 2026. And I just looked at quarterbacks who played 17 games. So the equivalent of a full season. And there's 65 quarterbacks who played a full season, very worth of games. And that in the entire duration of the Sean contract, he's second to last. He's 64 to 65. The only quarterback better than him is Zach Wilson. So the Browns? Worst than him, you mean? Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that makes sense. The only quarterback worse than to Sean during the durations contract, Zach Wilson. So for the second worst player, I'm happy Candy Picket made it. Yeah, there you go. That would have you were waiting. But nice. They paid the most. Not another Candy Picket stat. I can't handle one more Candy Picket stat. Brad of you. The filter. They paid the most money to the worst guy. And gave up first on picks. Oh, also, yeah, the free first strikes. It's brutal. So I just, and also, yeah, so I just, I just kind of want to watch this because I kind of think the Texas defense is going to kick the shit out of them. I think the Texas defense is back. Yeah. And we'll see. So is the Sean going to sign like a two year $8 million deal to be a backup some more next year? It was funny because he's going to be a phrasian. We'll be like, where should he go? We're like, he's just going to Cleveland. I'm like, go right, right, right. They try. Anybody want him as a backup? I don't. It's a weird vibe. It's like, can you be signing to Sean Watson to not play would be like insane? It'd be like signing. Imagine signing Justin Tucker to your practice. Right. There'd be something like that. We'll go to the cheese. You'd probably will back up also Jared versus the past pressure for the Browns. He's like seeing a psychologist now because he has does have any socks, sacks, you have traded the Browns, which that's tough from the Rams. And then doesn't have any sacks. This isn't doing anything miles Garrett and one game got halfway to his quarterback pressures in the season. But you're averse. There's just too much happening there. It's like he's talking shit about his own teammates. It's not defending him versus the Steelers. He's called Steelers and then nobody backed him up. All the Steelers dirty players, then got to fight with them, then got mad at his teammates for not backing him. Then said publicly, I wish my teammates had backed me in the fight, which is like, who says that? I think that's going to work. Yeah. Yeah. So I am concerned. Anyway, I think the Texans are going to destroy Cleveland. It's going to be a rainy game, right? This game's in Cleveland, DK. You know the weather there. I think it's going to be rainy and cold. Oh, boy. At least it's not snowy. At least there's no lake effect happening, right? Not yet. The next bucket of games here, I'm just quarantining the NFC South, which is the reverse NFC North. Whereas the NFC North, everyone has six wins or more. The NFC South. Every team has three wins. Yeah. Right. And you mentioned Harrison Bucker and Justin Tucker, the scintillating pair of kickers for the chiefs. New buddy caught. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. the staff. for you. Harrison Butcher has missed 12 field goaltumps and five extra points since the start of last year. Most by any kicker in that span. This year alone, he's 12 of 19. The only kicker who's worse than him this year so far is Harrison Mevis who was cut by the Rams. I love, I love when a team has a glaring kicker issue mid season and they're a good team and they can't figure it out. Yeah. It's fun. It's like they keep bringing a new thing. It doesn't work out there. It's like, fuck, we don't know what to do. It's all a good kicker. It's a huge kicker, an icker. Sure. It's really an icker issue. But Judgy Watt went hard on this in the broadcast last week where he's just like, the part where I was butter was done was like, I think they had a 56 yarder. He misses it. The joke is everything misses is wide, right? It's far right. Yeah, it's far right. He's too far right. But it is literally, he's too far right. They get this blessing of a penalty, get a five, they get to try it again. It's like five years closer. They get an air in Glenn penalty and then he gets to try it again. So he gets five years and he just makes the exact same. He gets food off the field, didn't he? But yeah. And so at that point though, you can't trust him with your season. You can't lose him a home's playoff run because Butker continued to be the worst kicker in the NFL, which he is right now. But Judgy Watt was like, so why did you sign Justin Tucker? If you're not going to replace Harrison Butker, like get rid of Butker and play Tucker or never signed Tucker. It's so weird. It's a situation for them. Yes. I mean, it's it is really just note. There's no point to this. They've had to ask him to read about why not not only have they had to ask why they would sign Justin Tucker, which he'd like handwaved away. He served his, he's like the kids served his suspension. Yeah. Like the kids 37. It's like, okay. And then now he's going to have to defend keeping Butker in there as the starter. He said basically this week that, you know, with kickers, they go through ups and downs. They go through peaks and valleys, the confidence is shot. I was going to say, but it's now two years where he's been pretty bad. He's, you know, he's like, you're in a half. Why is he bad now? Confidence. Honestly, nobody knows. I'd probably confidence. I think it's like, you miss, it's like, you just kind of happened to miss like three in a row. And then you get in your own head. And then yes, it's like off. It's like, why are you playing poorly? Yeah, it's kind of just. I don't know. I'm thinking now, like, bump. So Wade Phillips, his dad, bum Phillips is like this very famous coach. And bum Phillips once was like, I forget what team he coached a lot of teams, but he was like, all right, they needed to pick a special teams like coach, but they were like, no, someone's going to be the kicker coach for the special teams. He's like, who here knows something about kicking? And all these guys raised their hand except one. And the guy who didn't raise his like, you're the kicker coach. And they were like, why? He's like, because I don't want you telling them fucking anything. Yeah. War stories. But yeah, the coaches don't know that. Okay. Next game. Panthers are at the New Orleans Saints. My one stuff for this game is that both the Saints and the Panthers are bottom five and points allowed per drive this year. And basically, this is just like two fair weather fantasy teams where they play great against shitty defenses and they get killed against good ones. And this is like a great get rate spot. You look at who the week's prices had great games. It's like the bears, the lions, the early bears, the lions, the Falcons, same with Shuck, cooked against Detroit, Vegas, Baltimore. And you look at the games they played against tougher defenses like, you know, when Bryce played Tampa Bay and they just get absolutely killed. So I, you know, I've been kind of joking to high. It's about Bryce Young, not being that good anymore. I think this is a great Bryce Young game. I think this is like a get right game for jail and co-curve. The Saints are really bad against thought wire receivers. Jordan Tyson, I think is a guy I would like take a risk on starting this week. They said that he's going to get more snaps. He only played like a third of the snaps in last week. And he still got like five targets. Yeah. So this is a game where like, if these are all fringe guys for you, you're worried about co-curve. Do I start Jordan Tyson? I would do it. Yeah. Co-curve for sure. Tyson was wide open in the ends of last week. Tyson Fumble that's like one yard line. Yeah. Devon Veil is the only guy where I'm like, maybe he gets phased out. Veil, yeah, I think so. Dude, this next guy, I just, we had to lump a couple blowouts together. The Jaguars are at the Titans this week. The line is 10 and a half. I actually thought it was the Jaguars 13s every week. I just like to always play the Titans. And that didn't play yet this year. I think they're playing twice in the next three weeks. And yet I feel like I've seen this game like we've seen this game a million times. Yeah. I'm going to stick with kind of fantasy in this one. This is my one stat is, and this is, I think why the Jags have been a little bit frustrating from a fantasy point of view, especially with their receivers. But Trevor Lawrence is dead last in the NFL in fourth quarter and overtime past times. You can feel it. Parker lost. Get to feel it. This is piggybacking off of point Craig brought up earlier. Not only do they frequently take Trevor Lawrence out in the fourth quarter because they're winning by so much, but they also run a very slow offense. They're one of the slower offenses in the NFL in terms of how much time they take off of the play clock per play. You know what I mean? Like they like to run the clock out. They slow the game down. They run few plays. They're 28 and plays per game. The time of possession per play is dead last. So they're just chewing up clock not passing, especially in the late in the game, third and fourth quarter and overtime if there is an overtime. And yeah, overall Trevor Lawrence is averaging 38 past times for game. It's 27th in the NFL. Two more per game than Malik Willis. And that's kind of like the fear we had with Malik Willis coming into the to the season was they're just going to run a time. They're not going to run very many plays. Not going to have a lot of completions or past times. And that's kind of what we're seeing with the jacks, even though, but it's because they're so good. Another plane to Titan. So that's my point is like how, how many quarters is Trevor Lawrence going to play in this game? I don't have a ton of faith for the times to keep this close, but that's the only way the same thing. Warren Sharp, the, again, he said the bangles of the easiest schedule in the NFL going forward. The jaguars are right there. The jaguar schedule for the rest of the entire season. It's like really easy. Again, it's Titans, giants, Titans are just the next three. How many catches do you guys think Parker Washington? So they played eight games. How many catches do you think Parker Washington has in the fourth quarter? Total. Yeah. Two. Seven. Five. Five. Cody White has five. Ted Hirst has six. Eleg Io Manor has six. Oh, no. Dude, but I think what we're complaining about, you're starting a player who's not playing a whole game. What we're complaining about is that the jaguars, I think this is why I think the Jaguars trade for Jordan Davis. And they're going to win the AFC. I don't know if they should have given up all the picks and everything. They again, first and two seconds for safety and a couple defensive tackles. But I think the jaguars have been the best team in the AFC for the first half of the season. Like they look, they, I think they're the only team that consistently blows teams the fuck out. And I know they've scared playing these guys. They're number one in TVOA. But they, but they, but they number one TVO because they destroy teams and everyone, the good teams can destroy a team every now and then. The jaguars are kind of the only team this year that is destroying teams even kind of regularly. I think this game will be a destruction. And I'm worried about this giants game I might go to is that being a destruction. And then the Titans, like I don't know. Why did your brother want to go so bad? Because you guys, we haven't, he isn't tailgated out of a giant scheme at, you should tailgate and then go home. Not bad. It's more fun anyway. You said that with the energy of Taladek Knights, who's like, yeah, my grandma or birth is coming up. I don't know what to get her. She's turning 95 to get her coffin. I thought you were going to do the line where he's like, I got two tickets here. You know, like, ox, the tickets. Tailgate can go home. No, it's so far. You don't know how shitty it is to get into a giant scheme. Anyway, next game, bills are at the jets. So, mine, my one stat is that there's a stack called ass average separation score from fantasy points. Got merit, Brett Whitefield. You know, it's, we make common sense when you see how open the guy our chargarian James Cook 10 out of 10. I mean, real ass. A lot of huge ass for them. But yeah, it's, it's, it's, how far are they from people? But it's not just player tracking. They're taking into context like coverage. Like they're looking at the coverages, they're just like having a eye scan. Like they're looking at the coverages and like, you know, you don't get to just sit in its own, get huge ass score. So, my stat is huge ass score. Huge ass. The top three players this year in ass are all on the jets. Really? So it's Garrett Wilson, Omar Cooper, and Eddie Mitchell. So statistically, literally, nobody is more ass than the jets. Oh, very good. Thanks. Very good. Well played. What do you do that of the commercial? Omar Cooper is that high. I feel like it wasn't really what his scouting report was that he's like a big time separator. He's more of like a athlete who can make tough contested catches run after the catch. Be physical. That's pretty impressive. I think that this is able to separate like that. Does that make you feel any type of way about the jets in his game at all? Do you feel differently about the jets off? No, they're getting slaughtered. But I think that they're slaughtered. Aaron Glenn, I think, is going to get fired. Again, Aaron Glenn, if Aaron Glenn's never won a divisional game and he might not because it's Bill's Chargers jets, or sorry, Bill's Chargers dolphins. And if they lose to the chargers, you might not make it to the dolphins game. So, and then it's by and I'll get probably not. But anyway, I think Aaron Glenn is a lovable person and we'll get fired. But this is a great team. And I think this is the best coaching opening for next year because today three first trump picks might all be in the top 10. And then the team around every, it's pretty talented. I was like a little skeptical at times about David Bailey for Texas Tech. Now, I liked him. I didn't like I wasn't definitely in love with him fitting with the jets. He's been a monster. He's been unbelievable. And then the receivers are really great. They have not many teams have three great receivers, two really good young offensive tackles on rookie contracts and a great pass rusher. Yeah. And then three, like three first trump picks, like that constellations like never happened before. Right now, right now the jets have the fourth, sixth and 13th pick in the draft. And if you're a jets fan, you want the chargers, the Titans and the dolphins to win. And you want Dallas to lose. And you want to lose this game. But now the bills are going to gut them like a fish. So, Jesus. Next game, this is just actually sad. The dolphins are at the cults. Dolphins, Malik Lewis is on injured reserve and the cults kind of just quit. Kamal Court is the quarterback in the dolphins. Yeah. Kamal Court is getting the start for the dolphins. He was drafted in a six [BLANK_AUDIO] My status basically just com Accord through for 446 yards and four touchdowns with no picks in three preseason games So the Packers is this year. So he was impressive in the preseason for the Packers. They got traded to you said that like You believe that Well preseason doesn't matter. Okay, but what else am I going to say about com Accord? It kind of looks like Brock pretty. He does look like he definitely does carless resident dolphins fin here was like The dolphins will find their Brock pretty, right? Maybe it's not come Accord. Yeah, that happens all the time But he does kind of look like Brock pretty's cousin a little bit. Right. This is a part this game is Why the NFL should follow my idea of Once teams are mathematically eliminated from the playoffs or maybe they can even opt hit a button Yeah, you enter the loser's bracket And now that the winner of this team. Oh the winner of this game now is on the path to getting the first overall But not the opposite one of your best ideas. This is a game where if it was like holy shit the winner of this now enters the final Four of who could get the first pick? I would be a tournament like again Dynasty fantasy football kind of got this figured out there should be like a dynasty fantasy football Like if you have a loser's bracket tournament like the worst team doesn't necessarily get the first pick You got to compete so everyone can't just got their team and it's more entertaining and you have to care Yeah, like the dolphins it in week 17 I don't know how the NFL would actually logistically pull it off But luckily that's not my fucking problem. All I know is that if in week 17 or week 18 if it was the dolphins versus the jets for the first pick It was new numbers teams would go crazy look the NBA figured out would be amazing I don't want to say the NBA I don't know if the NBA cup is considered a success It was weird and now I feel like people kind of don't mind it But like it's like these games that happened during the regular season where they paint the court differently And it's like the standings go towards a different tournament that's taking place simultaneously And I'm like maybe there's something where like the field is boys. You stay blue and you're like holy shit This is a toilet bowl game or something they could figure something out some people are worried that they're like Well, would a quarterback play to get the number one pick if that quarterback would replace them like if you want You know that sure and sabotage it my answer is if they want to have to ask that about you or two You've been so bad that you're playing for the number one pick that I'm like you're probably fine Well also if you're if you suck and you're like well if I play well Then they'll get the number one pick and bench me So I'll play badly and that will make them want to keep exactly. No, I'm kind of like They should play for the first pick that would be interesting I don't know how you do that, but someone else can figure that out. Yeah, okay Any of the thoughts in these games? No, okay, you want to put a hundred seven seconds on the clock and actually do this in a hundred seven seconds Yes, I do ringer one oh seven uh today's ringer one oh seven is brought to you by fandal We have some similar thoughts. So charge is blind bet. No need to discuss their playing charge is blind lock it Nine years or so is four and a half to nine years are great dials is not I had it lock it that one too I think we should just do Jaguars first the Titans lay the ten and after gonna blow the Titans out maybe tease them down I thought about a tease, but yeah, I don't mind just grabbing ten and a half The best team to leave first the worst team to leave who cares their defense they just like keep giving people away on the defense Sure, okay, I mean Texans four and a half. I had that one right. I like it The weather thing makes me nervous that the game's gonna be close and shitty and rainy But yeah, okay, so we can think about it cheese minus three and a half. I didn't have this one. I don't like games in Atlanta Make me weird. I feel like it's always messy out there. I mean they just beat the Niners. I don't know Is this what about Detroit two and a half on the in in in Munich You want to bet the lines to be the Patriots in Germany. Yeah lay points to do it. Yeah Do you want to do that? I Like how confident crazy. Do you want to do that? I don't think I don't I'm not feeling that one that much I like how Craig is what about three Mendoza. Yeah, what we got for you? Why don't we nail teaser and we can do this in in True lock. Why don't we why don't you see Hawks Texans teaser and we'll figure out the rest later and we'll do Ravens Niners Jax Ravens Niners Jax and see Hawks for us Oh, wait, we should do the rookie quarterback thing. We should spend against common court Daniel Jones and Camel Corp. We should bet we should bet against me with the quarterbacks. I can't we should take the Rams my religion doesn't allow me to do that Why don't you see Hawks? I can't bet on Daniel Jones Why don't we do CX Rams and bet against both rookie quarterbacks Mendoza and back Yeah, let me fuck it It's Aaron Donald and Garrett. Don't worry about the offense. Yeah, that's All right, all right. Good. So we have it actually. We kind of did that. Yeah, we kind of have points the Rams, but yeah, but we're teasing it Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good. Yeah, so it's we're doing Ravens Niners Jax CX and Rams teaser and we'll figure out the fifth one over the weekend. Okay, go ahead and get four in all right today's Bring her one of seven is brought to you by Fandall odd subject to change. Okay, I have to read you guys an email. All right This is more Prince shit No, it's actually about Justin Timberlake. Oh, so this email is from Riyadh. Okay, Riyadh our bone our bones. So before the Prince debacle You your your song was it was sexy back by Justin Timberlake, right? Okay, so Yeah, one more time in case the people didn't Yeah, can you do it together? I like it. Yeah Justin Timberlake every time he when he's on stage, he crosses his arms, he shrugs like Larry David and he goes Like Larry David. So Riyadh writes breakfast today with some cereal bring cereal back. I love cereal I love cereal. I love cereal. I can't have it in the house because I eat it too much. Not a cereal. That's why I just have to like not buy what cereal do eat Uh, I like honey bunches of oats are really good. Yeah, that's great Frost of many weights. Fuck it. Mix those two together. Yes, do go in I I'm kind of lame I eat healthy cereal because I actually find that it's just like the cold milk and the crunch is all I want Yeah, DK just kind of like when you said healthy cereal, he literally physically like checked out the conversation. I like I do like Just granola in milk. Yeah Sure he took granola is like like underratedly good. So Riyadh writes have you ever listened to Justin Timberlake's verse on Timberlake's hit 2007 track give it to me Probably well Riyadh will remind you because Riyadh will listen to it and says hey, this kind of sounds like Justin Timberlake's dissing somebody So it's like why is Justin Timberlake dissing someone so the lines is uh can I read you the Justin Timberlake lines here? Uh, could you speak up and stop the mumbling? I don't think you came in clear sitting on the top It's hard to hear from way up here even though it's more like way up here But he's like I saw you trying to act cute on TV just let me clear the air we missed you on the charts last week damn That's right you wasn't here If sexy never left then why is everybody on my shit it it Because you were saying like Timberlake brought sexy back, please I know I was yeah, so who do you think this this is about Wait, this is a Timberlake Timberlake is on Timberlake Timberlake Timberlake is just in Timberlake wrote those words on the Timberlake who's a person so he's dissing somebody who is criticized sexy back yes, and we don't know you have the answer yes Mumbling What see he said something about your mumbling I can't understand he's quoting the criticism. Oh no, he said can you speak up and stop the mumbling I don't think you came in clear sitting on the top. It's hard to hear you from way up here I saw you trying to act cute on TV just let me clear the air We missed you on the charts last week damn. That's right. You wasn't doing that to me Oh sexy never left and wise everybody oh he's so the artist that he's criticizing is a mumbler And he says don't hate on me just because you didn't come up with it So if you see us in the club go on and walk the other way our run will never be over not at least until we say who's a mumbler DK I don't know I'm going to phone a friend DK I don't know could be anyone this is about prince. Oh What Holy shit timber like hates Prince Justin Timberlake and Prince had a huge beef in 2006 Does and seven holy accidentally did them back-to-back and Wow a huge thing. That's like when we did for again We did back-to-back Jesse J songs on accident. It was Party in the USA and then and Jesse J wrote party in USA. Yeah, and we would domino. That's interesting. Wow. So yeah, so I JT kind of gets my kind of gets my angle here JT's on team crack Yeah, but prince was basically like what sexy never left and Timberlake was well, you know sexy did leave prince Actually, it did leave actually and so Timberlake is saying prince mumbles You know what there's actually a whole vanity fair explanation of this beef that You know, I I don't really know okay. I'll look at it. Yeah, but I thought I was I was pretty astonished All right, so which you're on you're on Timberlake so well Timberlake actually you know when prince passed Timberlake was like oh fuck That was probably wrong to fight with prince. Yeah, and then try to never fight with somebody like that, but uh, you know I guess I have to take team Timberlake, right? I have to be on that side based on my priors DK I got to take prince. Okay on this one. What about you prince obviously. Yeah now you're you're moving away from me now that you are on Being strategic. Yeah, he is Playing cowardly playing both sides. So I was coming on top the most cowardly thing you could do sit on the fence No, I chose a side. He didn't I just said prince. Well you were that you were went from one side of the fence to the other We'll see why he came all the way over here and hid behind me sit on the fence it climbed over hopped over the fence He will see where you are tomorrow really clumpily. I'm fine. Yeah, you never know. It's true Uh, okay Thank you DK. Thank you Craig. Thank you everyone who emailed in thank you DK You're welcome. Thank you guys are coming to Los Angeles I think despises. That's not that's that's mean. You're the one shit talking it all the time. Well Last night dinner. That's not but it's not what happened. Okay That's not what happened. All right. Uh, thank you to thank you to everyone who made it possible for us to do all this stuff in studio this week. Thank you to Austin who all this burn book here, all these standings behind is everything here. Thank you to Austin. Thank you all that. There are so many people like Austin's kind of a physical media goat. Yeah. Kind of a real guru in the space. Thank you to kill. Thank you, Cam. Thank you everybody that thank you to Van Lathen for coming on and defending Prince and which I always wanted him to do. Thank you, Lord. Lord. All right. Songs we irrationally hate. I did Prince, DK. Hi, Vince did Jack and Diane by John Mellon Camp. Nobody had an issue with that. All right. DK, what do you got? I'm going with this was a tough one because there was a couple that I wanted to choose, but I'm going to go with a American rock band named Maroon 5. Moves like Jagger featuring Christine Aguilera. That's a great pick. That song is annoying. That was on my list. It's a great pick. Did they ever explain why they chose Moves like Jagger? I know. What is it? Swagger. Swagger was the word. That's it. That's it. Swagger was like the word in like two dozen eights as a nine. So then everyone had to rhyme it with that. Kesha TikTok is like. Yeah. Yeah. I remember that. Yeah. Feeling like Mick Jagger. Anyway, this song is annoying. Maybe people don't like this song. I don't know. I feel like it was pretty big and was playing constantly. Got the Moves like Jagger. Yeah. I got them. I don't know if I've ever seen a video of Mick Jagger dancing in a particular way. I'm not thinking of Mick Jagger. No, Mick Jagger has like a certain physicality to him. He's like, I think of him like, I don't know. Never really thought about the song. I got the Moves like Jagger. We got to go though. DK is going on the Bill Simmons body because he's better than us. Goodbye, everyone. DK, better than me. Bill thinks you're better than me. DK, better than me. 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