WEEK 10 INSTANT REACTION: Miami-Notre Dame | Alabama-LSU | Georgia-Ole Miss | BYU-Utah | MORE!

Welcome back to the Cover 3 Podcast with your host, Chip Patterson, Tom Fernelli, Danny Kennell, and Bob Elliott. It's your call for the best college football coverage from National Signing Day to the National Championship and everything in between. CBS Sports presents the Cover 3 Podcast. And welcome back to the Cover 3 Podcast, here on CBS Sports, Desk Tom Fernelli, Desk Bud Elliott. I'm Chip Patterson, coming to you live at youtube.com/cover3 and everywhere you get your podcasts on the man. Thanks for hanging out. Smash that subscribe, smash that like and come and join us at the chat, aka the Cover 3 tailgate, where the conversation is rocking and rolling. We'll take over the number one spot that has been vacated by the Miami Hurricanes. Yes, Miami goes down to Notre Dame. Yes, Utah gets the big win against BYU, yes, Alabama, Texas, UCLA, Oregon, Georgia. So many big winners here on a colossal week 10 Saturday fired up to break it all down with all of you hanging out in the tailgate and just a reminder, by the way, that one week from today, it will be a very special instant reaction show because we will be together in Bloomington, Indiana. We will be giving you that live tailgate. Now will everyone be hanging out in person for the instant reaction show? TBD. Talk to us on Friday. But can you be hanging out with us as we are bringing you all the great coverage in advance of Indiana, USC? Yes. Come find us outside the spirit of Indiana statue outside the stadium. We are going to be live at 11. We are going to be live at 2 p.m. leading into the game. So please come and hang out. We are looking forward to bringing you all the coverage in addition to an in-person IRL instant reaction show. But enough about next week. Let's focus on what we've got right here because this instant reaction show, like all instant reaction shows this season, are brought to you by Modello. We thank Modello for their sponsorship of the instant reaction shows, especially one that has so much to unpack. Okay. As we always do, it is easy. It is easy to start where we just were, and especially when the result where we just were is a loss for the number one team in America. So Miami goes into South Bend without Malachi, Tony. We've got a few more details there, including an estimated four to six week recovery for that ankle injury suffered in practice. Notre Dame, very much on the front foot in this game. Very much in control in this game and credit to Notre Dame because that is a win against the number one team in the country on your home turf. That is a signature win for Marcus Freeman. That is a win that gets revenge for the loss in non-conference play last year. That is a win that by virtue of that also gets revenge for the playoff snub. There's a lot of weight here for the fighting Irish. But enough about the weight and we'll talk about the stakes and the ranking stuff later. What did you see but Elliott about Notre Dame's performance here? They gave you some encouragement about the way that they can stack up against college football playoff teams because the conversation about Notre Dame and the conversation about Miami is undoubtedly with the backdrop of, we know they can beat almost everybody on their schedule. What do we think they can do moving forward? How do you grade Notre Dame's performance? Yeah, so Miami really took away Notre Dame's run game and they put it on car and the receivers and car mates are really nice plays. He also just made his layups, man. Miami's secondary is a unit that's been kind of beleaguered this year and I thought the Irish and Denver opted a good job scheming them. They pretty consistently had good leverage, they were able to create openings. He just hit guys who were open, which is exactly what he missed against BYU. Sabin talked about it. We talked about it that night. Hey man, they were like daggers to plung into BYU in Provo that he just flat out missed, like bad misses. And tonight, he really just didn't have many of those. I thought they skimmed it well, the little quick flair out of the backfield, I thought what was tremendous there on, like pretty late in the fourth quarter, when it seemed like Miami was taken a lot of momentum and then defensively, I thought they did a pretty damn good job of keeping Miami one-dimensional. I know Fletcher had a couple yards, but for the most part, the Irish dominated the Miami run game, I thought they harassed Mensa all night. I was actually extremely impressed with Mensa and his pocket movement, which is something he did at Duke and something he definitely did at Tulane, which is the main reason Duke cited for going to get him when he was at Tulane. I thought Notre Dame Chris Ash who gets a lot of crap in our comment section here also did a pretty good job in the second half, and they'd also let him more, like the secondary was in trouble, and then Miami diced them, but they got home with free runners a lot more in the second half. And in the first half, I thought Miami skiing them pretty well, honestly, like picking up stuff. Now, Miami didn't score a lot then, but I like how they created more, like just free runners at Mensa there in the second half to get some crucial stops. Yeah, I mean, I thought Notre Dame was the better team for most of the night. There was a little period there in the second half that allowed Miami to kind of make it a game. Because I mean, I thought it was over at halftime. The way that that first half of the game went, I figured, okay, well, there's really not could be a whole hell of a lot of reason to be following this game too closely in the second half. And then, you know, Notre Dame comes out in the third quarter and scores first to make it 24 to three, and it was very much like, okay, so let's see if there's anything else interesting going on here tonight, but there was like that five minute stretch where like, how long it had to take for them to get those three scores? Yeah, pretty quick. Yeah. It was like a 10 minute period where they had three touchdowns and all of a sudden, you know, it was game on again, but I think Tacco, a lot of what Bud said, I feel like both teams were determined to take the run away and to make the other quarterback beat them thinking that they could win. And obviously, if you're Miami, you're probably thinking, well, CJ Carr couldn't do it against BYU. Let's see if he could do it against us. And if you're Notre Dame, you're probably thinking they don't have Tony. Let's see if they can actually, you know, if this men's a kid can beat us without Malachite Tony. And I thought for most of the first half, it looked, but my primary takeaway from the first half was, I think we know who the real Heisman contender of the Miami duo is because Tony. Yeah. Like, it certainly looked as if, you know, Mesa was not just playing nearly as well without him, but just he got going the second half. I think he kind of found his rhythm. He kind of started figuring things out with Cooper Barcade and they looked much better and I felt, you know, he did a really good job avoiding the pressure because his bud said he was under constant pressure in that game. And it was really tough for him to deal with, but then CJ Carr did a very good job dealing with it too. So, yeah, just, uh, it was a very, very interesting game for both quarterbacks. I think Carr played better for the full four quarters, whereas Mesa, I think, had better moments. Yeah. Mesa only ends up getting sacked twice in this game, but gosh, it feels like he was hit hurried and sort of chased around for a lot of it, certainly knocked off schedule. The other thing did a little bit of a cold tub game for Mesa, right, I mean, just looked like they were doing a good job of being able to get the hits on him. That's not where he, I know he's going to be feeling that one in the morning. Do you, for the fighting Irish, this is the last super competitive game that we're going to get as a data point, it was always, I mean, we're going to get SMU who, who boy, we might get to that a little later when we do our Thursday, Friday results. SMU made a statement that could potentially even, you know, give them some momentum going into that big game against Wake Forest. But when Notre Dame is judged, not just by the committee, like, forget the committee. Let's, let's talk about it the way that they cover three podcast judges a team. Notre Dame's judgment against the best teams in the country was going to come down to the way they performed against BYU in Miami. They have now gone one in one against those two teams. One of them, very, very close loss, one of them a very close win. Tom, what is your, like, best sense of what Notre Dame is as a national title contender? What is anybody as a national title contender this year? I mean, it's, that's what I'm saying is like, tell me, tell me what they're good at, what they're bad at and like the way that they stack up because you spend so many different ways to stack teams against each other in a single season. And I respect that because you do a good job of not thinking about it, like, oh, what a top five team should look like. What a top five team should look like is different from year to year because the only thing you need to be to be a top five team is to be among the five best teams of that year. Not a top five team of last year and not a top five team from the year before. And this year's clearly shown us the barrier for entry to be a top 10 team, top five team is maybe a little bit lower. Where does Notre Dame fit in all of that for you? Not ranking wise, but like the strengths, weaknesses, what are they? I think if you're going to actually win the thing this year, you're going to have to have, you know, somebody's going to get hot, somebody's going to play well. And it's going to be a situation of whichever team actually reaches their peak is playing well at the right time. When I think of this Notre Dame team, what I think of is the one touchdown drive before half time. where CJ Carr was just like dicing, just balling out there, just delivering like real ass throws, evading pressure in the pocket, extending plates. I told you, Dr. Carr, the surgeon is what he is. Just like that touchdown drive right before I was just surgical. Yeah. And I think I look around the country and I think the team he played tonight has a quarterback who is able to kind of hit that kind of, you know, gear to where he can completely take over a game. So when I look at both of these teams, they kind of remind me a lot of each other in that, in a season in which most quarterbacks have disappointed, I do feel like Miami and Notre Dame both have a quarterback capable of putting their team on their back when they need them to. And I think that's what separates them from a lot of the other contenders. Totally. I mean, I think like you look around the country, think about all the teams that are either disappointed in their quarterback play because of what they're down the field or because they're not on the field, right? And like, you know, Carr didn't play very well against BYU. Like he had numbers. Okay, but like the misses were bad tonight. I thought he was one of the most important guys. Like he's, you know, depending on where you look, the high's been favorite obviously right now. And somebody's got to win it, right? Like as he had a high's been season, I would say before tonight and no tonight, again, somebody's got to win it. Like I think he probably played well enough to deserve that favorite spot, especially with, you know, Jeremiah Luzin saying, you know, like that's going to hurt. I mean, if Miami had won that, like, Mince is easily the high's been favorite, like going away, you know, right? I mean, I don't think there's any doubt. Like you, you win that game without Tony, you'd have a minus sign in front of your name. But maybe, I don't know. I don't know. Cars like cars like you know, I don't do with high's been betting where we're deep enough in the season. This is, this is, this hands off. I don't do that. I think they got a lot of different ways they can beat you, right? Like they're, they're not always dominant on the line of scrimmage, but they're like good enough they can bang with the best, right? Like there's not a lot of teams out there that I think, all right, if you play Georgia, you got a good shot of like taking the body blows and being able to kind of like expose, you know, stocked in and whatnot, you know, like old mist that I couldn't bang with them. I think Notre Dame could, right? And so I like the run game, like you, you like the backs that are coming on Miami shut it down with Miami's really good up front defensively. Like Scott played his ass off like we talked about in the recruiting episode, you know, Woods was huge and obviously in big game breakdown. I think there's a lot of different ways it can beat you, especially if the secondary gets healthier. You know, then all of a sudden you can, you can mix and match a lot of different covers. You can truly play man. There's not a lot of teams out there that can do that. Like Notre Dame is really dangerous. They just had to actually like not choke against a good team, right? Because they're scheduled sucks. Like you had two real games. So if you didn't, if you didn't, if you lost both, you don't deserve to go. I don't care how much you blew out everybody who sucks, but like you won this one. So you're going to go and I'm excited to watch him. Yeah, they've also got a pass rush. Yes. I think that separates him from some teams too. I mean, I think, you know, like Miami has them in flashes, but like they've got the ability and the talent to do it. They just don't do it consistently. In fact, did they have a sack at all tonight? I don't think they did. I know they had some pressure, but yeah, they didn't have any sacks. They had two tackles for loss and they like, there were four yards lost on the two. But like Georgia has it, but it's not like incredible. Yeah. So it's like when you look at like I think Notre Dame, when they're at their best, they are like national title contender. And we saw them at their best a lot tonight. The best they've looked all year. I think that's why I asked them in the context of a national title contender, right? Yeah, like let's let's let's fully fill this out because we don't get a lot of games when we come to the instant reaction show, when we feel like we've gotten information to fill out this picture and I feel like we have this is a Notre Dame team that can win the national championship and they showed from their quarterback to their defense the different ways that they can do it. And again, what even is a top five team? What even is a top 10 team? Okay, who else on the past rush standpoint would you put up there? I mean, Texas, if everybody, I was like Alabama, Alabama, Indiana? Yeah, I mean, their questions are entirely on offense at this point. Right. At this point, I think about them as a defensive lead team. Yeah, where I would take CJ Carr over Joshua for 12 days out of 10, you know? Yeah. So it's it's a it's a really, really strong team, a solid performance here. And then for the for Miami, now we got to get into the vibes portion where you just got to land this plane, right? Mm-hmm. I don't think they'll have any trouble doing that though. I don't not predicting it, but I would just make making sure I don't no concern, but you just you just got to land this plane. Mm-hmm. But I also because like I think when it comes to where they're going to be ranked in like the committee, the way they're going to be viewed, I think the committee will remember they didn't have Malakitoni in this game and they will remember that they damn near one. Yeah, exactly. I mean, Miami's Randy schedule is Duke in Miami, Hokies in Miami, Boston College in Miami, right? Only one of those is scary. Like Duke just cannot throw the football at all. So reasonably like with Miami's run defense, that's not really the problem. It's their past defense. So like Duke is not a good matchup for them as far as strength weaknesses. Hokies could put up some points on them. Miami, but you cannot trust. No, hold on. You cannot trust this Virginia Tech team. This Virginia Tech team is like among the least trustworthy of untrustworthy teams. I agree, but I think that they are like if they're playing well, they'll score on them. But are they going to get any stops? No, probably not enough. That's the one. If you look at it, it's like, okay, they at least have a quarterback like substance, you know, back there, like whereas Duke in Boston College don't, like that. You're not going to lose to those teams. I think there's something a little bit. I mean, assuming health, right? Call me an apologist. I think there's something to be said for the way that Miami roared back into this game. As Tom mentioned at the beginning, he said, it kind of looks like Notre Dame was going to run away with it. And the fact that they hung in this came up with some, you know, Barcait Lofton, a couple of tough grabs, Mensa hanging in there, extending plays, a few stops, you know, just to be able to give yourself a chance. We don't do moral victories, but I do think there's something to be said for first game without Malachi Tony. Things were not going your way. You're playing on the road and you still found a way to come back and make them sweat a little bit. That gives me some confidence if I'm a Miami fan that when we go back home for three games that we should win, that these should is not as much of a question as it might have been in previous years. So I agree. Yeah. I think my main confidence is like the ACC most of it really sucks. And like, I just, you got to have at least somebody who's kind of a quarterback and like they're going to face one in the final three. Yeah. Also, I mean, look, if you're Mario, how much are kicking yourself or kicking that fuel goal? I mean, you got to take a three when you got, it's a 19-year fuel goal, bud. Come on. Dude, that's just, that's bad. Well, there was also at the end of the first half, the timeout and the spike. Did you catch that one? Mm-hmm. A couple of seconds. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The, the, the, the operation at the end by Miami wasn't the cleanest operation. So, hey, listen. Yeah. Like, I mean, I, I mean, if they meant the playoffs, neutral site, you're taking Miami with Tony, obviously, right? No. Really? After watching that. No, I'm saying no to obviously. Okay. I reserve, I reserve the right to make that move later. Neutral site with Tony, I would have Miami favored. Well, LSU, hey, hey, well guess what, bud? LSU was favored by five and a half. Some of us took Bama. We'll say, like, I, I know that we feel like there has to be controversy and anytime we lose, it's the refs fault. But there's no planet in the world where that was a catch by Elijah Lofton. So, Miami is just let it go. Part of catching the football. Oh, god, yeah. Part of catching the football involves controlling it and then not dropping it. Like, he literally dropped the ball. It got stripped out of his hands. It is not a catch. No, Notre Dame outplayed them and deserved to win this ball game. Like, that's, yeah. They were ACC refs. If they're trying to screw you, they're screw in the wrong team. Also, Miami was pretty grabby as well. Right? Like, the refs let, like, I know they throw some holding in some PI, but like, they let them got like get away with a lot. I told you, when I saw those ACC refs and we were with the cameras that had the Skypoint Hawkeye technology, I said, Oh, no, this is going to come down to something bad. And then we were going to have an octalateral at the end. And I said, Oh, no. Oh, no, Striker. Don't start that stream yet. We're going to quadruple over time with this cluster that we got unfolding. Thankfully, Notre Dame finished the deal, brought them down to the ground and you and I T Y. Because, uh, how hilarious would it have been? How hilarious would it have been if Notre Dame picked up that fumble and scored? I know. That's what I said. We're just, we're giving credit all the way around for wrapping things up even at the very end, you know, especially for those of us with the team total over 31 and a half. Oh, I guess that that's the hilarity that doesn't. Yeah. You guys would have lost. I would have won - I told you, we just Latifa needed to be celebrated like the royalty that she is. And so I'm glad that we are not going to sully her great name in pop culture with another loss on the cover three podcast. - That's right. - You and I, Ty, with a victory on the board. - Coming up on the other side, you know who ain't got no losses on the board? The Utah Utes, let's unpack everything from an absolutely epic edition of the Holy War, Alabama's big win against LSU, and more. - Next. - One of America's top true crime podcasts, 48 hours, is back with a new season. - This is not scripted folks, this is real life. - And so is the official after show podcast, post-wortom, follow and listen to 48 hours wherever you get your podcasts. What an environment, insult, lake, city, rice echo, stadium was rocking. And Morgan Scally continues to build on one of the most impressive year one coaching performances. I mean, we sometimes stumble into these ideas, you know, as people who think and talk and write about this sport, but what he's been able to do at his alma mater, taking over at Utah, leading them out to this 9-0 start. The win against BYU, I mean, it's been absolutely massive. Let's, before we get big picture, let's start with the nitty-gritty. Tom, this game was awesome. 14-0, 20-0, and then one last charge, some bad plays by Bearbock Meyer down the stretch. But ultimately a super fun Utah 28 BYU 20 result in the Holy War. Everything I could have asked for to get my day started in a very good noon slate. I'm being very serious. We had conversations in the college football newsroom about how maybe this colossal week 10 Saturday had delivered a lot of duds. But if we had stopped the day at like 3.45, great, one of the best Saturdays of the season, you know, it's just, that noon slate was amazing. And this one was the star. Tom, what'd you see out of this game from the game perspective? We'll get into big picture stuff next. I saw a team that came out there and challenged itself to shoot itself in the foot as many times as possible. And damn it, BYU nearly set the world record. Because I mean, just like Utah obviously came out the gates very hot. Two touchdowns in their first seven plays on office. You know, Marched right down the field in three plays in the first drive. Marched right down in four plays on the second one. But just overall, the primary takeaway is Barebok Meyer had four interceptions. Now one of them was kind of like the Hail Mary Heave at the end. So that doesn't really count yet. Three interceptions. And then BYU had five trips into the red zone and came out with 13 points. Just terrible performance. I saw the stat. I don't know how it was at the end of the game. It's somebody in our research room posted it. On BYU's side of the field, he was like perfect. He was like 15 to 15, 180 yards. You know, blah, blah, blah, perfect rating. Once he got into Utah territory, he was like five of 18. Just as the field got shorter, he was just missing throw and missing throw after throw after throw after throw. I think this was Jonathan McClose who rocks by the way. I think he had this one. And and do you know what was funny, though? I'm so dumb that I was confused if I couldn't figure out what the stat meant. I'm glad you explained it because I was like, wait, to which side of yeah, I was like, see why you territory. I'm glad you were able to explain it better. Thank you. But I also, I thought there was some irony in that, you know, if we think of like what Bear Bachmeyer is for BYU and like the role that he has, especially when L.J. Martin wasn't playing. I feel like Utah tried to send a message saying Devin Damper can do all those things because Devin Damper threw for touchdowns. He ran for touchdowns. He caught a pass. He was doing everything for the Utah offense. And I just think that overall, Damper outplayed Bachmeyer. And I think that was the pretty much the biggest difference. Utah finished drives even though they kind of went dormant themselves for a while. They scored 14 right away and then didn't really do anything for about an hour and a half until they finally got going again. But just it was a very fun game. It was a very entertaining game. But the one team that made a billion mistakes ended up losing by eight. All right, so close your eyes. I wanted to describe something to you here, okay? All right, guys, here's how this game played out. BYU had 11 tackles for loss. Utah didn't have a single one, all right? BYU 6.1 yards per play. Utah 5.3. BYU ran it for 4.3. Brecarry Utah 3.5. Guys, like, I mean, on a down-to-down basis, BYU was better. The problem is the magnitude of Bachmeyer's, almost cut screw-ups, which just tremendous. We know he's not a really good passer. He's a really good runner, college, quarterback, but this is what gets you killed, man, good lord. We got to do eight minutes to get the VOD on this, but bro, those picks got you beat, like that. They were all some picks, though. What was his combined EPA loss in his four picks? It's got to be, like, close to 20. It was quite a bit. It was just-- Because two of them were straight up in the end zone. Yeah. There were two red zone interceptions. All right, so he's negative 5 1/2, negative 5 1/2. We're at 11, OK. Negative 4. So negative 15 in the middle of the hell marry along OK. So not quite 20, but I mean, you know. In the eight-point game, pretty consequential. I mean, it was just-- and as somebody who had the over 48 1/2 for this game to finish at 20 with those turnovers in the red zone. And it's like a mist-feel goal, just for a cherry on top, just yeah. But no, it was-- like you taught now what, 9 and L? Very much firmly in control in that league. Because what's the rest of their schedule? Aren't they through, like, the-- Yep. No, they've got Arizona. No, no, they've got Arizona next year. And they go to TCU. TCU, nothing. They get slip-up. Damn, thanks a lot. That's wish-casting, not this team. This team could lose in Dallas. Like, this team could open up-- Yeah. We could have a situation where they lose in Dallas, but still make it. Maybe a reverse BYU or BYU showed up with one loss. It took the second, got bounced. If Utah shows up with no losses, but get loses in Dallas, BYU, a big 12 ends up getting two teams in. So that makes the big 12 title race potentially more interesting. You mentioned Utah's run game didn't get much going here. I did-- waste on Parker's-- I was a little bit banged up, you know. Yeah, I also thought-- I mean, Parker was banged up, and I don't think Utah ran it enough. Like, I thought that they were getting away from it a little too-- A little too cute. Yeah. Yeah. What? That's not fair because they've been cute all season. It's just they've been able to overwhelm teams because most defenses aren't as good as BYU's. Again, BYU, a very, very good team and a quality defense. So not something that Utah has faced every single time during its ninth start. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So I understand why that happened. But yeah, I thought that Dan Pierre was doing a good job of being locked in early. That he clearly outplayed Bachmeier. And then the Utah defense, I guess it was the third interception was when-- Did the one the end zone? Yeah, when he came soaring across and just kind of like scooped it up out of nowhere, it's cool stuff. It was a cool interception, you know? Good stuff, great atmosphere, big win for Utah. We'll be getting into what it means for Utah as they continue to push, moving forward in the rankings, what BYU has to deal with moving forward coming up next. Speaking of rankings, one of the biggest disparities that we had between the AP Top 25 poll as it was released last Sunday. And those Tuesday night, college football playoff rankings was the selection committee identifying the Alabama Crimson Tide as the fifth best team in the country. That stands as a pretty big difference to what we saw from the AP Top 25 poll, which had Alabama at number nine. From the coaches poll, which had Alabama at number nine, and from the CBS Sports 138, which polls experts from CBS Sports, and 24/7 sports. And also, you won't believe this, had Alabama at number nine. Well, I'm glad the integrity of the college football playoff selection committee has come through, because that is a prescient group. That is a group that has their finger on the polls. Because if Alabama was the ninth best team in the country, they might not have been able to pull away from LSU and take control of that game the same way that they did, because Alabama did just that. 31 to 13 winners in Baton Rouge. For those of you keeping track at home, that's seven of the last eight in Tiger Stadium going Alabama's way. For those of you keeping track at home, that's 14 and two in the last 16 meetings in this series. I was told, and I said, this is a modern rivalry, and the more that I have engaged with this, the results are showing it very one-sided. The feelings from the LSU fans are loud and vocal. as it's increasingly becoming frustrating. The only wins in that run, 2019 Super Team and 2022. So unless you have a Heisman Trophy winner as your quarterback, I don't know if LSU is beating Alabama. That is what the recent history from the last 16 meetings would indicate with Joe Borough and Jane Daniels there. Maybe Alabama has a Heisman Trophy quarterback contender on their side as well. It's only 200 to 60 yards, but three touchdowns and some dots in there as well. But what would you see from the Crimson Todd and the way that they, I think two minutes and eight seconds is the only time in this game that we're not either leading or tied. - Okay, so a lot here, they were all over LSU receivers, right? Jackson Harris who's really good, like he got his, but like nobody else got anything, right? - There were no explosive place. Alabama's home plant was like, yeah, they were like, "Sure, we're just gonna sit back and we'll just swarm." - Exactly. What they have, four sacks, was it one or two picks, six PBUs, like that's a lot of pressure you could put on LSU's passing offense, like LSU's run game, nothing special. I thought Alabama was way more physical, you know? And like shit, like that's, you're one of my 17 in Death Valley, like against an LSU team that I still think's really good. I didn't come away like distraught about LSU, like I know their fans are like, we haven't beaten anybody decent this year, and they're right, they haven't, but they'll have two more chances to do so down the stride. I just came away and pressed the Alabama, like it was what we talked about in Big Game Breakdown, like if they get their four NFL guys back off the injury report, which they think they got what, three back, like that's a pretty big deal, you know? And they blocked it up enough. Keelin also really, he just, man, if you miss on him, like he's not getting on with like an infield single, dude, he's swinging for the fences and just, just kill her. I think that I talked this week about like, hey, bamboos recruiting class sucks right now, you know? It's like, not even close to anything they've ever had in the last quarter century, as far as their ratings. We're like, we're not worried 'cause they got so much coming back on this team for next year, and they don't lose very much as far as starters, and they're going to be able to like just throw millions at like fill the cup of holes they're going to have to make a championship run. Guys, they're in this championship run this year. Like it's not just the next year thing, like this is, who on a neutral side are you taking on a real Alabama right now? Well, I just Georgian. - I don't know, probably a few teams. - Yeah, the water's too muddy. The water's too muddy for me to like, you just talked about the difference between a team that scored 10 points against Tennessee, then got three to four players back, and now all the sons of national title contender. - Right, yeah. - If that's the difference that we're talking about in the top 10 to 15 teams, then we're going to be dealing with injury reports to decide the national champion. But is Alabama-- - No, that would be actually well, yeah. - Yeah, is Alabama undeniably looking like a very enticing national title pit? Yeah, without a doubt. With that quarterback, the way they're getting healthy, Ryan Coleman Williams had a touchdown run in a field flipping game changing punt return. - That was nasty. - He didn't even have like a touchdown catch, but it was still, you just see the ways that having him back in the lineup changes the math and changes the calculus for them. - I feel like an idiot. - Okay. - I mean, like-- - Welcome to me, 365 days a year. Leap years, I get one off to be smart, but-- - I'm just saying, like they're gonna be, like I've already complained about a couple of them. There are picks in our lockspot that I lost this week that I'm angry about. This one I'm only angry with myself because I took Lane Kiffin and Kalinda Bore. And I mean, it's like I completely forgot Lane Kiffin's entire history as a head coach. He doesn't win these games. And you look at what they've beaten this year, like their big wins were Mississippi State, Texas A&M in Clemson. They had the big game against Ole Miss, they lost. They had a big game against Alabama at home, they lost. They have a big game next week against Texas at home. They'll probably lose. That's just how Lane Kiffin has been in these games. So yeah, I'm an idiot. I should have picked Alabama. - No, that's why LSU fans are frustrated right now, Tom. It's because they're having the same moment. It's because they thought they hired the portal king and instead they got the paper tiger. Like they got the coach who is gonna look great when he's got the advantages and is now 0 and 6 against Alabama as a head coach. - But I don't think that's just all, I think the thing that's affecting LSU is like this is what's, however many losses at home to Alabama. Like this was happening under Brian Kelly. This is stuff that, you know, this has been going on for a while. I think that's a continuation. I don't know if it's the Lane Kiffin of it at all. I'm just speaking at this from a little, I bet on Lane Kiffin versus Kaelin DeBoer. Just a dumb decision on my part. - Yeah, Kaelin DeBoer out coached Lane Kiffin today. - Yeah, and I should have seen that coming. - I wouldn't run off LSU yet. I think they're gonna run the table and make the playoff. - You think they're gonna-- - Yes, I do. I think it'll be Texas and it'll be Tennessee. I don't think Texas and Tennessee are anywhere near as good as Alabama full strength. - Showbat. - I think, I think, I think, yeah, showbat. - Yeah, showbat. - But what's LSU done to make you put that much confidence in you? - Commentate their quarterback over Tennessee's kid and over arch, right? - Hey, no, those are quarterbacks. You gotta remember Tennessee's got a two-quarterback system right now. - Sure. - They're running for as many yards as Air Force and Army that is a service academy in Knoxville. Josh Hyple is honoring the troops ahead of Veterans Day with a service academy offense. They run for 200 plus yards. They have two quarterbacks. Get some more on that game later, but yeah. - You were impressed by Leavitt today? - I was not. - Not super impressed, but over the course of the season, I've been more impressed with him than I had been in with Arch. - I was far more impressed with Arch today than I was San Leavitt. - Like, LSU's not Missouri. You know what I mean? That's gonna be tough for Texco back-to-back road games there and then-- - I agree. - In a row, LSU's got a lot better players in Missouri. And I think Lane's a better coach than Drinkwood. So yeah, I'm gonna take LSU or Texas. And I don't trust Tennessee's offense to go when a row game at all. - We'll see. - Over on the broadcast for Tennessee's When It Gets Kentucky, Roddy Jones had a great, just sort of, I mean, Roddy's our friend, Roddy's the best. But he said, "And you know, a real interesting test of that LSU mindset after taking the third loss." And I do not think he's wrong. I think, but, from the vibes department, there is a very, very fair question-- - That is a little scary. - Of whether a locker room of mercenaries, highly paid mercenaries, under the direction of Lane Kiffin. - A highly paid mercenary. - Like, Texas is not a bunch of mercenaries, though. - We're going one-on-one, okay? The college football allows you to always play the what-about. You can what-about-ism, I mean, literally, entire careers are made out of just playing what-about-ism in college football. We try to, at least, talk about these players in these games individually. That's one of the reasons why I think people like this show. But I do think that trusting this collection of players and coaches to be able to maintain the same intensity and focus, knowing that you've already got three losses on the season is fair. But there's also the urgency, backs against the wall, circle the wagons, can't lose again. Let's go prove them all wrong. The LSU can win their way in in the way that Alabama could not if Alabama lost this game. Alabama did not have the opportunities, going up against Vanderbilt, Chattanooga, and Auburn, to be able to play their way back into the conversation, the same way that LSU can play their way back into the conversation. It is not a matter of path, it is a matter of quality, and that the quality that was on display, I just don't think was that impressive. They moved the ball a lot, they did a lot of shiny tricks, and they were just all lacking substance. The way the game played out, the way those drives were failures in scoring opportunities might be representative of the season. We'll see, they get to prove it, Texas and Tennessee, you know, the rest of the way. But to be fair, we, we can't really know who's going to win next week's LSU Texas game until we see who's in the entourage walking with lane beforehand. Oh, Angel Reese. Oh, he had Angel Reese. He had Jack Reese. Yeah, he had Paul. I should have been in my three star, okay. Well, he had Kevin Costner and Kevin Costner, big football fan. Yeah, he goes, I guess, is Shaquille O'Neal, LSU, great Angel Reese, Paul Schienzen, and Kevin Costner, big football fan. Kevin, Kevin Costner went to film school at Cal State Fullerton, grew up in California. The only thing LSU about Kevin Costner is football fan. Shout out to Kevin Costner. Nope, nope, nope, no hate here. I want to make that very clear. But you love Kevin Costner. Don't know how that inspires. the the fan bases, you know, but oh, man, massive, massive win for Alabama, anything else on the Crimson Todd, like things that you saw, like Delgatti was healthy. He was also getting out there and moving. It means they also get to move around their, like backup center goes to go. I mean, there were a lot of shifting that happened that just the pieces seems like they were coming together a little bit better. Even before Alabama started scoring the touchdowns in the second half to pull away with this thing. They had a couple hit in a couple runs here with Daniel Hill. I don't know, you just, you could tell it was starting to get their edge back. So we'll see. I mean, success is always tough, especially in this season. But it is fair for an Alabama team, Alabama fan to look at their team and say, we got bit by the injury bug. We took a couple losses. We endured it and we're through on the other side. And like you said, maybe a national title team now they get a month to get ready for Georgia. Have you done the SEC tiebreaker run yet? If they went out, they're in easy. What about Georgia? Says just that's what we're looking at basically rematch. Yeah, yeah, Georgia's in like they're, I mean, like they're, they're odd. Like they're so in their odds might have been pulled off the board. Let me see if I can find this. What to make. Yeah, they got, they got two ranked teams coming up here. Yeah, they talked to play Missouri. Georgia's got to play Mizzou. They got to play South Carolina. Is Missouri going to be ranked after this week? No, of course. Oh, it's Missouri. Right, some Missouri friends. Well, I'm dumb. Come on, fight. Oh, all right. So I mean 25 right to hell now. That's where they're going to be. Fandall has them 251 or so. If you want to lay $200, you could net $100 for them to make the SC Championship game. I don't want to do that. Coward, fair. I don't need it, but that's probably good. That's probably good value bet to be honest. You can call me whatever you want. Tom, I'm doing that. Got other plans. You know what other plans I have? Like asking you, Tom, for Nellie, did Texas win? Did Missouri lose? Oh, no, the ref stole it, don't you hear? It's all the ref's fault. I'm not in on the ref's part. No, neither am I. I do. I do think Texas got some really favorable calls. I think favorable calls are part of the college football proposition. Agreed. Missouri is all fenced sucked, though. Yeah, I think they got I think they got the right end of the calls, but I don't think it was conspiracy. That's more what I'm getting at. It's like there's the hole. Oh, they're rigging it for Texas. Not a lot of official crying today. You guys wouldn't believe this, but Tommy Castellanos did not remain perfect in the second half. And Missouri just had or West Virginia's had their like 5th 40 yard play of the ham shame of the first 40 minutes. Yeah. Hmm. Missouri. I thought you made a Bishop play pretty well. Like for them, you know, in Coleman's absence, obviously like the backs that like stepped up and ran his ass off. I just Missouri not enough offensively like stay on the field and like when you're settling for field goals and you miss them, it's not great. Texas is so big and so good up front. And it's just and Missouri got breaks with turnovers too and couldn't cash them in. Biles was great. I mean, it's just they they eat up space. They fly to the ball. If you're not good, Texas's defense will expose you. And to your point about when they're just pulling another another blue chip from another blue chip that played high school football with Jeremiah Smith. Hey, did you never know? Did you know there's another blue chip that played high school football? Yeah, my Smith, you know, it's like we're pulling more of them off and we're just showing them off. And it's yeah, you give me an entry report with Hollywood smothers out with cam Coleman out with all these bodies that are going to be missing from the lineup. And yet you're still finding ways to hit explosive plays. Now it was it was very much the stark Texas explosive plays, right? You know, it was the get it on the perimeter and let the boys go pop it, but it was it it worked. But what one of those guys who's going to pop it is your main bishop and I know like most college football fans are not recruiting. But this was the number 13 overall player in the country last year that you receiver like that dude can go. Yeah, right? Like yeah, they got dudes. I thought Austin Simmons made some really, really, really good throws. It's just yeah, it's kind of the home run hitter like he was hitting the home runs. He was not getting the singles. He was not moving the runners. Oh, he's very done. Yeah, he wasn't you know, he wasn't you wasn't doing any of the situational hitting that you kind of need to wait in the playoffs. But I do feel like arch played really well today overall like he had a typical arch moment because there's never going to be a game where he doesn't have a arch moment like you know, the fumble that might have been an incomplete pass. Who knows. But overall I thought he made some really nice throws to and it's just he didn't have the killer mistake that he's had too often in these games that Texas will usually lose when he does. Greg. What is the vibe of Texas going into it's remaining schedule? I mean, if you get next week, you feel great. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know you feel great. But what's the confidence that they get it? Well, I think they're in regardless of this point now. Unless they lose to A&M. I mean, like I think they can lose to LSU and still get in pretty easily given their wins. I would not say pretty easily. No, I feel pretty confident. I think they'd be like 65, 70% if they lose to LSU unless they get like dog walked. Yeah. Because you're going to get a little after how Ohio State looks without saying you're going to get a lot of credit for beating Ohio State with saying which they did. There are going to be multiple three lost teams in this field. I think people better start to accept that. I had four three lost teams in last week. That's what I'm saying. There's like I think people are still approaching this from like there's going to be we're going to get at least one. It's like no, no, we're going to have quite a few. Yeah, they're not going to take these like yeah, but they're clearly giving a lot of credit to beating teams in at like 25 to 50 range. And if you're in the big 12 or the ACC or you're one of these big 10 teams that does not have the top half of the big 10 in there, you're in trouble. As for how I feel about Texas, like I watch the team and clearly there are flaws and they have no bad spells, but like they've also beaten Ohio State. They've beaten Tennessee on the road. They beat all miss. They beat Missouri today on the road. Their two losses have been by three points each. And also the last two weeks, like I know Mississippi State is not nearly the team it was earlier in the year with Camario, but they completely handled back game and they scored 31 points. Today, they put up 34 on the road. To me, the offense is kind of like figuring things out and they didn't have Cam Coleman. So I do have a little bit more confidence in Texas overall than I probably had a month ago. I think that there as this season goes on, maybe Sark is leaning more into what he understands Arch can do. He's you know, he's playing to his strengths more instead of trying different things. Like I do still think that they're they're bug a boo, but it's been the bug a boo for Sark teams forever is they're not great in the red zone. I think that could cost them at some point, but just overall like what I compared them to all these other teams, it's like you ask yourself, well, can this team win this game? Can this team win this game? Texas is won the game like four or five times already. So it's like I kind of have to just be like, okay, yeah, I buy it. The win against Ole Miss did not convince me in isolation that everything was fixed, but to your point, Tom, it does feel like over time they're starting to I mean, if if they're scoring 34 points a game, who's beaten them? Well, I think that's the point. Like the defense has bought the offense time. Yeah. Yeah. And now that now the offense is finally kind of starting to hum and you're just like if they keep doing this, good luck. Yeah. Which again gets us back to the conversation of are you judging Texas against your expectations of what you thought the video game Texas was going to be coming into the year or are you judging them against the other teams in America as we're sitting here on November 12, 14 a.m. Eastern time on West Virginia leads now. They're out of first and goal after a pointer turn. This is rough. Tough scenes. I think we're going to have to ask a question. Yeah, we're going to have to talk about maybe four or five more games before we rerank the top 25 sponsor by my dello because I don't know if Texas Tech might go and be in it. We're going to find a new team. Do you guys think they made Cody Campbell's name on the field big enough? She's been bigger. Oh, it's on there twice, but it's on both sides of the field. It's like between the 15 and the 35 yard lines. It just says Cody Campbell field. I mean, it's giant letters. Hey, you know, PCSA is dead. Elections over. He's got some money for it up. Might as well like ghost sponsorship. I just I just I feel like it should be bigger. I don't even know if we should have like yard markers like the 10 and the 20 can't we just get rid of all those and write Cody's name on it. Get a statue. No, the 50 yard lock. Whatever. I'll tell I'll tell some I'll tell some family business and bring it out from behind the curtain. Who was it, Tom? Who was dropping the enhanced, uh, the enhanced font size Cody Campbell graphics in our workroom? Hold on. Oh, I can't log into Slack on this computer. Okay. I'll get it. Oh, yeah. Aaron. Aaron Grisham. Yeah. Aaron Grisham. But I'll send these to you. And we might even share them on Monday as part of a pun for the review. But Tom asked the same question. The workshop and bits in the Slack. He was like, do you guys think the name's big enough? And Aaron Grisham goes, it was like, Oh, buddy, I'll make it bigger. So we've got all these photoshop so the biggest possible Cody Campbell fields. Okay. I was, I was trying to workshop a, like a, like a, like a quick AI video for like George's offense walking into the doctor, right? And I'm like, like, what else do you man exposed to plays? It's like we're like a hundred left in the country's like, I just think Oxford Ole Miss defense here. Even by, even by my social media, like AI graphic, you standards, it was crap. I was like, I'm going to scrap this. So we, you know what, hey, let's great transition because the tailgate did say, did you know number two and number 10 played today? Yes. And it was non-competitive. And how interesting. How long did you watch this game? The whole time. I watched the first 10. I was 20 and nothing. I was like, Ole Miss did not come to play physically. Georgia whipped their ass up front both sides of the ball. And also out scheme to pretty badly, I was like, this is great, great kind of game for me to stay dialed into as I was writing. The perfect game for me to be able to, like, no, when I could put my head down and when to look my head up without a doubt. I mean, it's just, oh, does Ole Miss have the ball? I'm going to put my head down now. And right, right, right, right, right, right, right. Oh, George's got the ball. Now let's turn my head up. And let's see. To your point, what they've been able to find, because they had Ole Miss's defense in absolute hell. They were going the wrong way. They were lined up wrong. I mean, they just, great, hey, cover three tailgate, and it was great work by Mike Boba. Put them on your hiring list. Absolutely. He, he had them going. So you, what did you see early before you cut it off from a team that, as we might discuss here in Madela, re-ranking the top 25. Very well could be the new number one team in the country. Pad level. Oh. Let's go. First one. First one. First one, I'm measuring stick. Oh, people are like, oh, we're just at a pad level. You can just watch them play against Auburn. They're like a step slow. They're playing paddy cake. They didn't take them seriously. I'm sure we could practice pad level. Georgia came to play. They blew Ole Miss off the ball on the first play. Then they go that little screen and they go play action bombed. Let's go. It's over. Ole Miss defense has been occasionally good and consistently leaky this year. Taylor is pretty damn quick. They got him loose a couple of times deep. The run game was there the whole time. Frazier looked like old Frazier. They were just way more physical. They had a lot more want to. Frazier looked like he has an NIL deal on season totals. That shoulder injury is prevented him from hitting some season totals and he's like, I'm going to keep going. He's trying to get it all back on every run, man. He's trying to hit seven run moments. So many arm tackles. He said, no, sir. Uh-oh. No, no, no. Yeah. I was like, oh, man. This is more about Georgia being hard than Ole Miss being soft, but it was a little bit of both. I think this is not real great football analysis. But if your people move and there are people out of the way, consistently, repeatedly, violently, study, say, you're going to get good results. Sometimes it's physics, man. And Stockton also just didn't do anything dumb. No, he made one dumb mistake in this segment. In the 20 minutes that I watched. I turned this game off. I was like, oh, Miss did not come to play. Georgia did come to play a good night. I made a watch out of the games. Yeah. I mean, my primary impression at this point with Georgia is, if I had to bet my life on one team winning it all, it'd be Georgia. Especially with the other guys quarterbacks either being down or out. That makes you like Georgia hell of a lot more. Yeah, because Gunner can't be broken or compressed or shattered or anything. That skull is too thick. There's no way you're getting to there. I saw that one highlight, dude. He got rocked. That doesn't matter. If they ever launch the nukes at us, I am hiding under Gunner's head. That is the only thing that could protect me. Because even the game they lost, they completely outplayed Auburn. They just kept screwing up. You've seen all these teams and everybody's had bad games. And I feel like Georgia just has its worst game has been better than anybody else's worst game. They just feel like the team to beat right now. Yeah. It's impressive stuff. Great win. Dogs were road dogs one-handedly. Didn't even make it a game. We'll get into what it means moving forward. College football playoff picture and so much more. But coming up on the other side, it's been a while since we've had the Ryan Day under pressure conversation, but buddy, we're here again. Let's look at Oregon's big win, but also what it means for Ohio State. And more. Next. Hey, I'm Blanthamere GTI. And I'm Kelly O'Grady. And we're here to tell you about our new show Straight Up. Every week, we're ditching the anchor desk to break down the story. The internet can't stop talking about it. And we'll have a cocktail recipe to match the mood. Straight up is out now wherever you get your podcasts. Back you're on the cover 3 podcast, Tom. That's important. It's important. It's important. 404 yards of offense for the Oregon ducks against the Buckeyes. They end up winning 41-28. Dan landing saying after the game, you know, if you look at Ryan Day right now, that's where I was a couple weeks ago. You know, we're dealing with injuries a quarterback trying to figure it out on the fine. We don't have time for it. My that's a lot of sympathy for a head coach. I'm sure who relished the win in the shoe when his team absolutely needed it the most. Now this was not always necessarily a game that Oregon was set to win. Somebody told you Ohio State might come shot out of a cannon and sure enough, the Buckeyes did have a 14-0 lead right out of the gate. But it just all claimed up the rest of the way. What did you all see in terms of what what led to Ohio State's downfall in this game? Was it Oregon or was it Ohio State? It could be that they only had 39 total yards in the second, third quarter combined. But I'm saying like why? Like why to you? Yeah, I think Oregon pretty quickly adjusted to some of the like changes of Ohio State tried to use a Fahee. Like Fahee, most of his stuff came in garbage time. Like it was 38-14 and then Ohio State had a 200 yard fourth quarter when the game was already decided. Like Danny got a lot of blowback last week for his I thought very accurate quarterback breakdown. And like the biggest takeaway I had from his QB breakdown was not that Fahee was terrible with what they asked him to do, but that it was very telling how little they could like how few concepts they could actually run, which a lot of Ohio State to adjust to it throughout the game, or sorry, USeto adjusts throughout the game much like Oregon did. Like he's a freshman, not a particularly talented one, right? And they're having to play him. And they have a major quarterback problem, you know, and it was worse tonight. So yeah, also the balls on Dan landing to call that fake punt. Hell yeah. Dude, Tatum Tiodi to Mateo Uyongala with like in the shoe. Do you know what that is? Like that's I I thought that I talked to Tatum at the orange bowl last year, right? Like I mean, I just those guys have been in that program for so long and they've played in so many games. That is an awesome college football coaching call. Like you know, who's going to have their hands on the ball for this nuts on the table play call by Vets? The guys who have put blood, sweat and tears into this program and I've won all these games here. Like the guys that are going to have their hands on this are going to be the ones who have led to all the success that this program has enjoyed and they delivered man. That was awesome. Also, as somebody who went to Florida State from 2003 to 2007, I've seen this before, when you're a defense has no confidence the offense is going to do anything, you start pressing, right? You start forgetting your rules, you start trying to win the game on every snap. And I think that's very reflective of what we saw from Ohio State, right? Like on a down and down basis, they largely stopped Oregon, but the explosives when you guess wrong because you're trying to win the game defensively or massive. Yeah. Ohio State fans like want to run Matt Patricia out of town. It's like, have you realized that your defense started to suck as soon as Julian saying got hurt? Like it's not a coincidence. They are in a position where they have to do everything and the offense just isn't doing nearly enough. Going to landing though, I wrote it. You can read it at CBS Sports.com, so I won't go too long on it, but this is the best coaching job of Dan Lanning's career this season. Yes. Or like this swing in this season, because you think of everything that has gone wrong, like the expectations for this team going in and then everything that went wrong, this is a team that had every single reason in the world to quit. Like they could have just said, oh, effe it. We're done. We're not good. We wanted to when we were supposed to win the national title, we might not even get to the playoff. Why even bother showing up? Our quarterbacks dead. We lost, you know, like the, after losing by 11 at Illinois, they had every reason to packet it. Fires the offensive coordinator, which is a big piece of humble pie, because everybody's saying you screwed up and we've seen how many coaches who, when they know they screwed up, do not have, they have too much pride to go out and admit it and let everybody know it. Dan landing eight, the humble pie said, I did screw up, I'm firing my offensive coordinator. Offense has been so much better since, it's still not a lead, but it is much crisper, makes much more sense what they're doing. Like they have to EOD and the jungle LA, you know, we're gonna fake punts. That's just how good the offense is right now. They've got great passers everywhere you look. But then also like, just coming back to her now, they're on the road and they're beating Ohio State by, and not just beating them, they're absolutely kicking their ass. Like the final score is only 13 points, but those were two touchdowns in complete garbage time to make this game look a lot closer than it was. Just a really impressive job. They might not win the big 10, they might not make the playoff, but if they do win a national title in the future, they're gonna look back at 2026 and Dan landing, he's gonna be like, that's the year where I learned most, you know, I couldn't have done it without that season without everything that went wrong. And he mentioned like, Ohio State's in that spot now, but it's too late for Ohio State in the year. There's not enough time for them to save their season at this point. - I mean, because they have the head over USC, it's not entirely great. - Oh, they're still in it. - They can make the big 10 championship game. Like it's probably what? Like 25%, maybe 15%. Like, you know, something in that range. - And like we talked about, there's gonna be multiple nine and three teams in the field. Oregon might sneak in as like they had 11 seed. If they win out-- - Oh, no. - I would-- - We cause that large. - I think if they make the big 10 title game, we will get into that weird, complex, situation where the committee has to decide how much they want to punish a team for losing. Now, I understand a fourth loss would be a lot to be able to stomach, but it was also a lot to leave out a 13-0 ACC champion. And it did kind of feel like the college football playoff was like, well, next year's gonna be 12 teams anyway, so whatever. And so I do think that if there needs to be some flexibility, you at least have the potential that we're in another one of those last. I mean, what was it the, was it 2013? Was there any controversy in 2013? Thorestate Auburn was pretty straight up, right? - That was pretty clean by my recollection. - That was clean. - Yeah. - 11 was the nasty year. - Correct, with all my state, right? - Yeah. - Yeah. - My point though, like if Oregon finishes nine and three, okay, their losses are to an Oklahoma state team that might be in the big 12 championship. Their other losses to a UCLA team that might be in the big 10 championship. Their other losses to Illinois, which might be like an eight and four team. Like they don't really have a bad loss in the grand scheme of things. - I think the wins, I think Ohio State. - And they'll have the USA and the Boise State and Boise, who might be playoff team. So it's like, I think they're gonna have if they went out, they will have a legitimate shot to get that like last at large. Oregon would have more quality wins than Wake Forest. And that's the question is like, Oregon would have more quality wins than Texas Tech. Oregon would have more quality wins. And the question is, do you care about lost count or quality wins? But that's where the ducks have done good work and picked up a big one here in Columbus to be able to say, yes, we are nine and three, but let's look at these. Let's look at what we've been able to do. - They would need Ohio State to win out, I think. - Maybe. - To remain like a quality win. So the Ohio State drops one or two more than it would not be a quality win, correct. Yeah. And you're gonna need Illinois to keep winning 'cause like, you know, right now. - Buddy, I don't know if you've seen the high line. - Oh, I saw him plenty last night. - That's gonna be a quality win. For the buccas, is there another loss? - Yeah, there could be easily. Like, have you seen this team? - How much fine do you get after this? - Yeah, like, we've already got Damien going on saying, Jeremiah should sit out the rest of the year. - He looked pretty frustrated. - He looked pretty frustrated tonight. - Yeah, I would be frustrated too, although he did finish with seven catches for 133 yards, but most of it came in garbage time. I mean, they've got Northwestern at Nebraska, Michigan. - I can't see. - Yeah, I can't say I'm confident in them winning each of those games just because. - Not with Fahey. - Not with Fahey, and that's another thing too. Like, at some point in this game. - Yeah, I'm glad you brought this up. I know you're going, please. - At some point in this game, when you're getting your butt kicked, why aren't you bringing in Davien St. Clair just to see? - Right, like, what's the best case that Fahey is? Dollar store Bryce Young? - Yeah. - Right, like, if he maxes out his potential, like, if he's actually starting at the Ohio State University, something's probably going really wrong. It's Ohio State, like, you can do better. Even in the best case, he's all the city cerebral, whatever you grow, come on, man. Like, maybe not in this game, but like, going forward. Do you have to kind of see what you have with St. Clair a little bit? - I mean, unless St. Clair has made it clear, he's not interested. - Yeah. - This is where I think all the turnover on the coaching staff might hurt. When you're just bringing in, you know, we're saying bye to Brian Hartline and we're saying hello to Arthur Smith and we're saying bye to Chip Kelly. And we're just, when it's that cold and professional, it can work if everybody feels like they're all going to the NFL. This team doesn't seem to have that same edge right now. So, Michael, you're just in your old misfeels, buddy. - Like, they're not developing St. Clair really hurt them because I guarantee you having St. Clair on the roster also hurt them if they try to get a transfer on the offseason to come in and be saying the backup. - Yeah, I'm not familiar with what Mark Pantone's plan was, but people have been giving him enough flowers as one of the best personnel guys in the sport. This one has to be chalked up as a criticism. You're not going to nail your portal class every year and this year's was not great. - But the quarterback depth has not been able to sustain an injury to QB1. And in a season where all across the country, we are seeing top 50 teams taking injuries to QB1. The drop off has been about as dramatic as I can think of off the top of my head. So. - You know, pre-portal, they would've had like kind of keynotes, right? - Mm-hmm, would've been an awesome backup. - Yeah. - Louisville caught their stride again today. Georgia Tech always helps. - Yeah, it's gonna say. - So Tech really might go two and 10 guys. - Yeah, I know, they stink. Do you know Jeff Collins? Jeff Collins has a podcast right now. Jeff Collins has been doing media appearances. - Jeff Collins says there are, quote, two individuals at Georgia Tech who might need to be gone before he's ready to go back and visit. - Jeff Collins went 10 and 28 at Georgia Tech. Like, do they want him back to visit? Like, respectfully here, he sucked. Jeff Collins was terrible at Georgia Tech. Like, they don't want him back. Like, dude, you're, at least bring, I mean, bring a keybox this season, clearly. Like, Bato, Seahire, you know. I mean, he was 10 and 28. That team was a disaster every year he coached. - I love bud so much. - At least for a key had like a good season or two. - I love bud, he just gets right to the damn point. - Yeah. (laughing) - Yeah, but back when I wrote more like, like, Jason Kirk my old editor was like. 'Cause you know, I love you, 'cause you just turn in 250 words and I ask for 800, but you said everything you needed to say. - Yeah. - I just, I just wondered if, you know, if Brent's an opportunist, yeah. And this is just not a time when opportunity provided itself. You didn't have the opportunity of Buster Faulkner or the opportunity of a Haines King, right? Yeah. When opportunity's going your way, everything's great, right? Heck, you could even be mentioned for bigger jobs. But you got an extension, right? - I haven't checked up on that. Though we should be checking up on the extension situation in, with a contract situation in Ann Arbor. - Good transition. - Robbie Calland, Michigan Kyle Whittingham. Buyout, Robbie Calland, Michigan buyout Kyle Whittingham. Those are going to be your keywords, because. - It's a one-note bit of honor. Like he's making the same joke just a different version over and over again. Come on, find a new joke. - Okay. Michigan loses. - Yeah, they did. - To Michigan state. Ahhhhhhh! - Ah, it's not getting better, it's 15 to six. - That's why I love having Tom on the show. I didn't have this game on. I saw the score earlier. I'm gonna turn this on. - I turned it on for the-- - We got Tom. I know Tom's a big tech guy. We're gonna defer to Tom. - I mean, this is my restart lock of the damn week. It's just shoving it right home. - Yeah, this was just an awful, awful flip bug game. Like, I wouldn't be shocked if Kyle's fired tomorrow. I just don't know, it's such a bad situation. It's not just that you lost, but you lost at home to a Michigan state, your little brother, and they didn't score a touchdown. - No. - At five field goals. And your touchdown came when the game was pretty much over. - You know, yeah, I wanna be clear for those listening at home. Michigan State won without scoring a touchdown. The Michigan defense did its part of defending the in-zone territory. The fundamental idea of football as a land grab, Michigan's defense did its part. - Michigan finished with 192 yards of offense. Like, it was horrible. It was a horrible, horrible flip bug game. It was a horrible performance. And like, Michigan State, they got Paul Bunyan. They are not gonna apologize. They needed it. Their first big 10 win. I'm fit. I'm sure I saw. I didn't hear what he was saying, but I had the TV muted while he was doing the post-game speech. I know he's happy as hell. Good for you. - Oh, baby. - But, I mean, it's not like I think Michigan State's gonna win another big 10 game this year, based on the way they played tonight. It's just, it was, I don't know what, I don't know, I don't see how there could be a second year. Maybe they let him finish the season. I just don't see how you bring Kyle winning him back. I just don't know who coaches. Who coaches the rest of the way? - I don't know, because trust. - I don't know. That's why I think he finishes out the regular season. It's just, I feel like that could be toxic as hell too. Like, you're gonna have, I don't know. Like, where's, what's Michigan? How many home games do they have left? They've got, they're not, thank God, they're on the road for Ohio State. But their only home game is UCLA. Oh my God. And their last three games are Oregon UCLA in Ohio State. It is gonna get worse. They're gonna, they're gonna miss a, they're gonna miss a bowl game. There's a real shop Michigan will miss a bowl. - They beat Oklahoma. - They beat Oklahoma and they're gonna miss a bowl. Just, it's, it's a horrific season. Basketball's here. It's the only thing that can save Kyle winning him. Basketball. - Are they, are they gonna be good at basketball again this year? - Yeah, I'm sure they'll be fine. I don't know if they'll be great, but they'll be fine. - They're not as good as Illinois. They might lose to Michigan State and basketball too. - That's more acceptable. Like, if you lose to Michigan State and basketball, you're like, well, you know, tip your cap. - But off the top of my head, when I'm sort of power-ranking the basketball teams, I trust that I'm not definitively gonna throw, or are recently promoted head coach. Not that he's never been head coach before, obviously. He's got his own experience, but. - I know who could, I know who could be the interim. - Biff. Clear out the entire staff and bring Biff in. Just let him finish it. He's done it before he can do it again. - Does William have like a real buyout? - I don't know. - I mean, it's Michigan and it's big 10 money anyway, but like, so it doesn't really matter, I guess, but. - And they don't have an athletic director, right? - No. I mean, that's kind of one of those movies you may not need one for. Like, if the president would like to keep his job, it makes the move. Or Petiti just comes in and's like, hey guys, this is not gonna work. So, let's fix this now. - In the interest of Big 10, it wasn't, what was the, it was like the competitive integrity? Holy, okay, so the competitive integrity policy is how Jim Harball got suspended. The competitive integrity policy is how Kyle Woodham gets fired. Because the Big 10 says, we need to keep the integrity of this competition strong and Michigan being coached right now. The way they are is not, the competitive integrity is dropeting. - If you don't wanna go to the Biff route, Fortnite has been a great commissioner of the internet invitation. I'm sure he can oversee the football program for three weeks. - I'll take it. - Bring in Dave. - We'll see how it goes. - He's got, he's got the relationship with Bryce. Maybe he can mend that fence. - Maybe, you never know. How much do we still believe in Big Blue Nation? Kentucky goes to Tennessee and they run into a defense that has them entirely bottled up. I mean, just all night long life is not fun. On the other side, Tennessee continues to just run the football. We've got a phase on brand inciting, working little to quarterback, a special phase on package that we've developed for him to be able to identify a few opportunities to try to cash in on some bigger plays. The final score I think is a bit more lopsided than the way my eyes said. This was a very close and competitive game, but the one thing that was not competitive was Kentucky's offense being able to be effective against Tennessee's defense. So Tennessee though they win 34 to six, really just continues to ride the recipe and that is the ground game and that is the defense. I mentioned earlier, their rushing yards per game as a team are up there with actual service academies. Like they are fundamentally committed to what they do. Their coaching staff right now includes, does anybody know this little wrinkle? Landry Jones is on the coaching staff. When Josh Hyple was on the Oklahoma coaching staff, they are running an offense very similar to the ground heavy approach that they had when Landry Jones was the quarterback for Oklahoma and that is the through line for a team that is riding. It's defense and it's run game to try and get a double digit win season and something that they are now just a couple of wins away. Now they do have to play LSU. They do have challenges that are left, but what'd you make of Tennessee with the big home win in dark mode against Kentucky? - First of all, I love those uniforms. Like those are cool. But if you look at Kentucky's turnover margin this year, they have been getting pretty damn lucky in SC games and that kind of came to an end of that. And it like obviously, Tennessee physically defensively swarmed them like crazy. But against like Oklahoma and it like, they didn't lose a single turnover against South Carolina, LSU, Oklahoma or Vandy. There's like being good with the ball and there's being good with the ball and getting lucky. And I thought Kentucky for the most part this year had been both and tonight, they were neither. And when you're playing like a really good defense like Tennessee, that's gonna be a bit of a problem. Like I thought if Tennessee was gonna win this game and you're gonna have to like hit explosives through the air, which they did some, honestly. But because Kentucky's past defense is not very good, their run defense is typically decent. But the field position stuff that Kentucky did, like self-destructing some, now some of that I think was Tennessee's crowd, Tennessee's defense, et cetera. And also like the critically ill time penalties by Kentucky and this game were really kind of killer. Like in watching, hold on, let me pull this up. They had negative seven EPA to penalties. That's a big number. So yeah, it was. - How does he play their game? - I mean, Kentucky kind, it's not just the colors, but Kentucky kind of reminds me of BYU in that the way that they're built and the way that they want to play, like when they get into bad situations, they get into bad game scripts, they're gonna struggle when they're not ideal spots. And then yeah, like you turn the ball over three times. To me, Kentucky's just not a team that can get away with doing it. And we saw it tonight, my bigger concern was more that like Tennessee put up 21 in the fourth quarter, but Tennessee was struggling too much to put Kentucky away. And my concern, just neutral watching it, was like, they're letting Kentucky hang around. Kentucky's gonna hit an explosive here, and all of a sudden this game is gonna be flipped on its head. 'Cause you've seen Kentucky do that so many times this year, but then they pulled away. But I still do have concerns about them on offense, about what that's gonna look like for them when they get into the games against other elite teams. 'Cause I don't, like Kentucky was in the top 10, Kentucky deserved to be in the top 10. I don't think Kentucky's an elite football team. I think their team that's had a lot of good results. And like Chip, I've talked about like, but the Fernelli ratings that I do, like they are not predictive, but they do a pretty decent job of identifying the team that is overperforming as far as, you know, its actual record wise compared to its performance. And Kentucky was like, Kentucky has never been ranked higher than 15 in the Fernelli ratings. And that was this week for the loss, despite their overall record. And that's something that weighs wins and losses more than a year. anything. So to be seven and one, and only ranked 15 find a whole bunch of two lost teams said a lot. And that's like 10 spots higher than several, like other power rings had them. Like, the attack for Maddie, like, like, FPI had him 26. Yeah. And I've, I've got him 23rd. Like, it's, so yeah, it's just it's, you know, I'm not sure. It was a weird bet. Like, I remember, like, okay, just hold your nose and do it, right? Like, like, lay the six and a half to think, you know, but I think you're a good team. I don't think they're a playoff caliber team. I think they can get to the playoff. I just don't think that if they do, it's realistic to expect that they will do much while they're there. Yeah. I don't think you're going to win a playoff game. The Kentucky Wildcats had the same profile. What you're talking about because I thought that when Kentucky got revealed as the number 16 in the playoff rankings, I said, okay, that is strength of record because their strength of record was four, right? So they are slotting it a little bit closer to that than their FPI, which as you mentioned, was down in the 20s. Another team with the high strength of record, but a lower FPI was the UCLA Bruins. Not sure how much they're going to be goose in the power rating with some explosive plays, but buddy, they offered the explosive plays to be able to shake up the numbers. If they're there, how about explosive past plays of 75, 75, 54, and 27 yards? My man Ty Defenbach had 303 passing yards on eight completions. That's 37 and some odd yards per completion. Yeah, six of his eight completions were at least 26 yards. It might as well as kind of a one trick pony, but it's a good trick. Here, I was thinking about this. Dean Sanders, and this is a fun, not Dean Sanders, excuse me, Dean Kennedy. Dean Kennedy, offensive coordinator for UCLA. We do a little bit of lazy references, Bob Chesney, Kurt Signetti, Bob Chesney, Kurt Signetti, but this one added another wrinkle for me because one of the true secret sauces, in my opinion, of Kurt Signetti's success at Indiana is the fact that he was able to show up with assistants that had been with him at James Madison, that it even sometimes been with them at Elon and even been with them all the way back to IUPUI, now IUP, right? I mean, there's just a group that's been together. And Dean Kennedy, the offensive coordinator and quarterback's coach, play caller for UCLA, was with Bob Chesney back at Holy Cross. And he was with him at JMU, and now he's with him at UCLA. And they have been tasked, kind of like the Dan landing story with a couple of weeks to work through Tideaf and Bach. What do we have? What can we do? What can we put together? And do you know where Dean Kennedy was before Bob Chesney picked him up at Holy Cross? He was with Dan Mullin. He spent four years at Dan Mullin with Florida, and he spent one year as a graduate assistant with Dan Mullin at Mississippi State. And my memory correct me if I'm wrong, specifically of sort of like that era, is that when Dan found something, he spammed it. And he said, yeah. Pits Tony, Pits Tony, Pits Tony. Yeah, I'm going to keep doing this one thing. I'm really good at the play calling, the game planning. I know my personnel. And when I find this thing, I'm going to spam it. And I was reminded of that as Dean Kennedy found a few things that worked very well and spammed the hell out of it the rest of the way. So if you want yet another layer to the Kurt Signetti, Bob Chesney, instant success, corollaries here is that yes, they have brought assistance with them at every single stop. And yes, those assistants have come up through the ranks. And yet the trust that exists between head coach and their staff has led to some real success along the way. I mean, at one point on my notepad, I said, is it all going to be Morgan, Myzel and Wayne Knight? Yes. And that's enough. So what would we see from UCLA as they were able to continue their winning ways? I mean, they overcame a negative turnover game, right? And they have really done a great job protecting football this year overall. And like it's Oregon, they got seven turnovers, right? And winning that ballgame, they turned it over and like costly turnovers today and still won by margin. Like now look, the defense should do gasseries for allowing 20 points to Minnesota. Like that's shameful, right? But I mean, the run game seems like it's there every single week. And Myzel wasn't my Zell dinged earlier in the year. Like you see that sometimes these track guys, like they're a little bit dinged and all of a sudden they're like a lot slower. And like now he looks healthy. Like that, that's a, we got to track that. That's like multiple games now where he's getting open deep. Then that's a different looking offense to me. Oh, man, just we just had a Thomas Castellano's classic fourth down heave to one guy that was caught by another guy for the first down. I couldn't, I couldn't believe that they did not feature his legs on third and three. I'm like, where's this dropping back at him? Read it out. There is nobody who throws more passes that are caught by unintended targets than Thomas Castellano's. Like this swing screen here. I love it. This is a correct play call for Tommy Castellano. It would back back to UCLA just yet. I mean, they did give up 20 points. But I think overall the defense played well. They ran the ball and they hit explosive plays in the passing game. It's pretty much every UCLA game. Now they hit a bunch of explosives more than they usually do in the passing game. But that's typically what they do. They play the events. They run the ball. And then once in a while we're going to hit a 25 yard, 30 yard pop down the seams. And then sometimes it turns into 75. Good stuff from the Bruins as they continue to stack their winning ways. Okay, let's, before we get to re-ranking the top 25, congratulations to the Air Force Academy claiming the commander and chiefs trophy. They have more commander and chiefs trophy wins than either of their other two commander and chiefs rivals. Congratulations to the Falcons on that one. Congratulations to Tom Frennelly fighting a line. I the big win against Nebraska. Any other Thursday, Friday reactions? There was Arizona TCU was nuts. I did not watch the end of it. But I've recapped the end of it with the onside kick and the walk, the late field goal to be able to steal that one. But I did not expect that effort from TCU. That was notable. Yeah, no, it was, that was a very, I didn't watch it live. I watched the rest of it this morning before, you know, the, the games today started. That was a very fun football game. Arizona getting out by the skin of its teeth to keep its hopes alive in the big 12. Blocked field goal was big. And Andrea were Andrea were made sure to tell us that a blocked field goal. That's kind of a momentum changer. So I appreciated the heads up on that. Thanks, Andre. Do you think this is an intentional personal file by way, if you're saying backed up more so they can score no time left. I think I've got three timeouts and 244s. You can run your actual spread option offense. I mean, he did just walk up to the dude. Did you just show them right in the face or something? I don't know what that all happened. He didn't, oh, he didn't get flagged. They didn't flag that. He literally walked up and just shoved him in the front. My guess here is that is that the ref saw what we did not see, which is whatever the other guy did first. Yeah. No, it's that game was really a lot of fun. Yeah, I just the Illinois game, I enjoyed it quite a bit. Just, you know, it's nice. Do you believe in SMU? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I believe in them and that they have an ability to get to the ACC championship. I don't know if I have much more belief than that. I think the belief I'm asking from you is can they beat Wake? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Are they favorite? I assume they will be. It's in Dallas. Yeah. I mean, it's it's a wake by one and a half. If you're Miami, you'd much rather see Wake, right? Like I think Wake's floor is higher and I think Wake's ceiling is lower. I don't if I Miami want to catch Kevin Jennings on like one of those insane Kevin Jennings days with that Miami Secondary in his current state. Kevin was still not perfect even in this game. I know what offense. I think their offensive floor is higher than Wake's like there is you know, like if if all of a sudden you get that like hero game from Jennings where he's just making all these crazy throws off balance. I think I'd rather play SMU. I'd rather play SMU. SMU has played down to so many teams. Wake has not. But you're not going to play down to Miami. Yeah, but I'm saying like SMU had like S. That's my point. Like their floor is much lower than Wake's. I don't trust Kevin Jennings at all. Yeah. That's fair. Yeah, it's and it's weird to say I really trust Geo Lopez, but I just it's I feel like I I have more faith in geo than I do, Kevin. Even though I think Kevin, to your point, probably has higher highs, the lows are just bad. - I think Wake has been the better football team this year. - Yes. - I'll pick Wake to win that game. Like I just, this was a crooked score, but I don't know if I was like, yeah, let's go. And y'all are gonna love this. Friday night, I got puttin' pooch. It's just boys night at the house, seven o'clock hits. I'm gonna go, I just wanna take their temperature. I said, all right boys, we can watch college football, SMU against Virginia Tech, or we can watch college basketball, but the North Carolina Tower heels against Waffer. And my four-year-old goes, go Mustangs. And I was like, all right, let's go. Pony up, we're throwing SMU on. So, yeah, the boys, Patterson boys were watching this one. Not the Tariels, they've got the priority straight. We won some sicko Friday night, ACC football over seeing what the non-con has to offer from the Dean Dome. Speaking of the hometown stuff, power four interim coaches, go three and one. - How about that? - Do you share a big football? - Yeah. - Mm-hmm. - We won a road game. - The road losing streak is over, congrats to Florida State. - I think Liam was in diapers the last time we won a road game, bro. - Like, do you think, 'cause Boston College jumps out to like the 10-nothing lead in that game. And then they pull out that merry-go-round bullshit. Do you think that they had like, like Florida State was probably like ass-screw it. And then they see them pulling back the ass. - Right. - Yeah. - You have been kidding me? - Yeah. - 'Cause I don't think it was a coincidence that from that point on, Florida State was the better football team in that game. Just all times stupid decision by Boston College. - They got too cocky. They got way too cocky. - And then the quarterback got really cocky with some of those throws he was trying. - Mm-hmm, baler winner. - Just take the check down. We don't tackle nobody. - Just baler winner against Iowa State would be the other interim coach for those not keeping track at home. Florida State picks up the win against Boston College. The Maryland Terrapins pick up the win as well. It is only the NC State Wolf Pack one word that end up getting their doors blown off by the Duke Blue Devils. - Low key fun moment for the Maryland game is do you know who was in the studio for it? - No. - Mike Loxley. - I did see this actually. - So Mike Loxley got to sit in the studio in Chicago and watch Maryland win their first big 10 game of the year. - I heard they set him up as like the road losing streak is over. Now let's go to Mike Loxley to tell me what the road losing is. - Maryland finally won a road game. What are your thoughts? Well, let me tell you what went wrong for all the games that I coached. And now let's talk about what went right for the game that I didn't. - Wow. He said all the things you would expect. He was very happy for him. And I'm sure he was. But it was just it was such an awkward thing. - Lenores gets hurt, but then comes back. South Carolina wins 17 to nine. This is one I didn't have a lot on. - I didn't get eyes on this. - I didn't get eyes on this either. But I was locked in. - It just, you know, you get the email update. - Lenores sellers is out. You like see like newsroom. - Lenores sellers is back here. And then they're like, oh, he's coming back in. Okay, Lenores sellers back in. But something to monitor as the game cocks have some big games coming up ahead in the near future. - I bet you great win. - Hmm, love to see it. - 51 to 48 gracious. - I know, but now Texas Texas defense is finally gonna get stopped. - Unbelievable. - All right, my so close to my big sprinkle. - Coming up on the other side. - I don't think it's dead yet. - Neither do I. - Yeah, I don't think so. - They have three time outs. - Castelinos can easily like mess around here. You're holding a field goal. You can go score on text text defense with like 40 seconds. - 45 is gonna say 45. Yeah, 45 seconds is definitely what I'm gonna start to hit it. - Okay. 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For important safety information and restrictions, visit Hems.com. Back here on the Cover 3 podcast. And now it's time for re-ranking the top 25 and re-ranking the top 25 is sponsored all season long by Modelo. College football season is Modelo season. The fight songs, the fan quakes, the rivalry trophies are all better with an ice-cold Modelo in your hand. It's not just game day, it's tradition. And those who keep college football traditions alive deserve a Modelo. Modelo is the official beer sponsor of the college football playoff. And this week, we're going to focus on the college football playoff rankings. With Miami out of the number one spot, my projection is that the Georgia Bulldogs will move up after that win against Ole Miss. Any pushback there with an undefeated, unbeaten Utah team, also in the mix? Zero. No pushback here, either. Okay. Like, how many better wins does Georgia have than Utah's best win? Two. Name them. They are Alabama and they are Ole Miss. Ole Miss. And they are better than the BYU win. Yeah. I think Florida, I think the committee would, yeah, okay. Yeah. Because BYU's beaten Notre Dame, which beat Miami. Right. BYU's resume got better. Yeah. Even as they lost. Classic. Yeah. Classic November College football stuff, you know. But I do think that ultimately the Georgia Bulldogs argument might be eye test. Like, I really think you can just watch them and just say, "Oh, that team good." You kind of have to talk yourself into pretzels with some other teams, especially when we start to pick apart one loss, two lost teams and more. I think it's very easy to say Georgia played a bad game. So. And they've got a blemish, they've got a bad game, but most of what we've seen from the Georgia Bulldogs are championship quality. The argument, by the way, the chat's misconstruing this. The argument is not that Ole Miss is clearly better than BYU. The argument is that Georgia killed Ole Miss and you taught BYU by a score at home. Georgia went in one by what? 35 on the road? Mm-hmm. I think that margin does and does not matter. I think it matters. I think it matters. Quite a bit. It does not for strength of record. It does for FPI. It does not for. Matters for eye test. It should matter for FPI. I suppose that it does for FPI, so it does not. Okay. I think that it does. No, strength of record is, strength of record is strictly the chances of someone else going through the schedule that you have coming out with the same wins and losses, right? This sack is not the worst thing in the world, by the way, for tech, or for like. I think my plus six would effort is dead. So I've got Utah moving up into the number two spot. No arguments. They're Notre Dame. This is interesting. Notre Dame all the way down at number 11 in the College Football Playoff rankings. They were at number four in the AP Top 25 poll. I think they're going to be looking at that three, four range. How would you do Notre Dame in UCLA? UCLA, unbeaten at nine and oh, Notre Dame, eight and one, coming off a win against Miami. Notre Dame, I don't think it's close. Yeah, I think it's very similar to the Georgia Utah. Yeah. It's like Notre Dame's loss, not a bad loss. So, you know, you've forgiven for it. best win is Miami. And what's UCLA's best win? Oregon. And then how far does Miami fluky is, I mean, it's Senate drivers. Yeah. So that means our top five is Georgia, Utah, Notre Dame, UCLA, Miami. Yeah, although I wouldn't be shocked with Miami's ahead of UCLA. Yeah, I would have Miami ahead of UCLA still. I don't think UCLA is beating anybody like, yeah, they'll have opportunities down stretch. Playoff will play off probably more likely to have that than AP. AP is a little higher on UCLA. AP will probably if you UCLA above Miami with the lost count respect that's going to be going on right there. Alabama, another interesting one as they were so much higher in the college football playoff rankings than they were in the AP poll. I would imagine those two things come a little bit close together. As we just mentioned, Tom, do you have a comment? Well, I think it's interesting. I mean, our top five for the CFP said would be Georgia, Utah, Notre Dame, UCLA, Miami. Maybe Miami, UCLA's how he said. So Alabama, who was number five last week, goes on the road and be tell us you and is going to drop. So they'd be ahead of Miami or UCLA, Miami or UCLA could get got. No, here's the thing because you got her. Here's what I wanted to get at. Just kind of funny. Why was the Alabama so far? I had a Tennessee last week. The Kentucky one, but they weren't in the what? The same pod. What if they're in the same pod now? What if Alabama goes on the road, beats LSU, but falls down in the poll because A, they're in the same pod as Tennessee. But Notre Dame jumped up. Yeah, Notre Dame jumped up and then suddenly Tennessee is going to be ahead of Alabama because they're in the same pod and have the head to head. No, Tennessee is blocked by Texas. Texas is C block and right here. Texas is totally standing in the way from them being close enough to get the swap. Yeah, the Texas Longhorns with the win against Tennessee in Knoxville could end up being the thing that prevents a flip flop there. I do think Tennessee is a top 10 team after the win. I mean, if you're going to have Kentucky at six and then Tennessee is able to a log a win of that margin. Even if it was a lot of it aesthetically poured on late, I think that the committee is going to take them from being down there in the teens and now upside up inside the top 10, especially being able to slot them ahead of the likes of like that Texas tech wake forest run right there. I think those are an easy spot to be able to launch the balls, having them as one of the bigger movers coming out of the weekend. A little bit further down some some questions I would like to pose to you. What is the argument for LSU as a top 25 team? They plan the SEC and they have a big brand. They killed Auburn at Auburn who beat Georgia. You know, they have some very close competitive games against teams that the committee likes a lot on the road. The LSU Tigers have three SEC wins. The conference records of those three teams is 6 and 14. They've been beaten up on the bad teams in the SEC. They've got close competitive wins against some good teams. And if you take something, then we'd have a different conversation. It's hard to logically argue though, if you're the committee, that could tuck ease the number 16 in the country and you took them to overtime at their place and they're not top 25. It also helps. There's not a lot of obvious candidates because buddy, when you again, I challenge anybody to fill out about it and I would challenge everyone to do it for like 30 or 35 or 40 and just see how small the margins are when we're talking about these teams. Once you get outside, I don't know. Once you get past paying respect to New Mexico, sure. Pick anybody. Make sure you include New Mexico. But other than that, after that, go for it. It's very easy. It's very easy to fill out the 25 if you actually put G6 teams in it. But if you're only going to look at two leagues and yeah, it becomes pretty difficult. Yeah. It's really hard to put G6 teams in a top 30. Maybe some of us. I mean, I've got New Mexico at 20. I got Boise State at 18. I definitely think there's ones that are there. But there's also a number of teams that have tripped all over their face, dealing with the small margins of conference play late in the year. So it's tough to be able to weigh all those things. It's what might get SMU inside the top 25 of the new AP top 25, right? We're seven and two. SMU, you should be ranked. We're seven and two. We just put up a big old number. Yeah. So that'll be another one there. Oh, here we go. Fourth and two. Text correctly going for this, not feel going. Oh, kick the field goal. Kick it. Don't put the game in Tommy Castellanos's hands. I think he got this. It's going to depend on the spot. Oh, the guy at the top of the screen is bad spot. The guy at the bottom screen may give this to him. I think he got it, Tom, by the nose. They'll nail this out. You're good. But why don't you take us through the new college football playoff bracket projections? All right. Yeah. So I don't have a whole lot of changes from the one we had on Monday, honestly. Like, I have 11 of the 12 teams the same. Now the order has changed a little bit, right? So Georgia won obviously two Indiana three Utah four Notre Dame. So, you know, they did get the win over Miami. So that's really kind of unchanged from last weeks to Georgia one now because they won at Ole Miss, which was kind of an uncertainty there in the model. Then I have Bama 5, Miami 6, UCLA 7, LSU 8, Texas 9. I have Wake. This is the only change I had this week of who's in and who's out. I have Wake in Ole Miss out because of how bad Ole Miss lost to Georgia. And, you know, hey, Wake, beat the Louisville on the road, close game, Ole Miss, beat Louisville neutral site, close game, and then BYU and Boise. There's a lot of teams that can still get in this. I think there's like realistically about like 26, 27 teams like Iowa could maybe like get in this, right? They're not, they're definitely not out of this thing, right? Oregon, like Tom said, could get in this. I think the way it broke today with the SEC, I don't think you're going to get four or three lost teams in like I had last week. I think they'll get three. Tom. So at this point, Bama is probably not a three lost team. Chip? I disagree with 26 teams that can still get in this. I made a list of 18 and I did not feel like I was leaving a lot on the table. Now, realistic. And that's even me with the Mr. the thing about a 12 team playoff is you got to find 12 teams to put it in. But I do think that I don't know if it's 26 or 27 at this point, but realistic and what could happen and what will happen. Obviously, that's the gap that we talk about. Like can BYU still get in? Yeah. Context is tech. Iowa was the one I was like, I don't know about that. For what it's worth, if you want to round up, FPI has 24 teams with at least a 10% chance. Now granted, I'm very much on the record as saying that I think projections for the playoff as far as the mathematical possibility of a team getting in or stupid because there are 12 men leaving their hat at the door, ranking teams based on pods. And you can't really mathematically predict what those morons are going to do any given week. But I do believe they're closer to 25 teams with a chance to get in the 18. But a lot of that is driven by like, you know, who wins the like who wins the big 12. That's a thing. There are a lot of teams in the big 12 still alive for the big 12. There's like five. Yeah. And I mean, I think we all know Utah is probably going to be in the big 12 championship at this point. And now that Texas tech is avoiding a loss. It seems against West Virginia. They're still pretty good. Tom, they ruled him short and upheld it upon review. So West James got the ball, buddy. That is a little bit surprising. I think that's just good referendum. So now if West Virginia comes back and wins this game, the big 12 is wide the f open for that second spot in the big 12 championships. No. Oh, I thought you were going to say for the second spot in the college football playoff. No, no, no, in the conference championship. Like, I mean, certain teams are definitely dead. Is he going to get sacked and he got sacked in the end zone? Well, you know, not that's not a killer. You don't want to take a safety. We're going to see an onside safety. You just you cannot. I think you love this sport. Yeah, I was going to say you can't you can't replicate this. Like somebody was arguing me on Twitter shockingly. I was like, look, no, like his broodler put out that we're going to see a lot of guys come back to school and good like more older guys higher quality of play will have a higher quality game. People are like, that's not true. Like, no, guys, like what makes our game interesting unique is like the chaos of it, right? Like it's not as high quality of play as NFL. I enjoy watching it more than the NFL because it's less predictable and just more insane. You know, this is. Wow. I think every every mountain air offensive lineman lost their pass per rep there that that's or maybe they thought it was a screen. Oh, buddy, what needs to happen for Ole Miss to get in? Okay. They need Louisville to be Kentucky badly so that wind looks better, right? I don't think it's a lock that wake at 11 and 2 is over a 9 and 3 Ole Miss. I think it's a probability. So the committee just needs to be them differently and they probably need to play really well down the stretch. They'd have a common opponent and wake would might have the edge there. Who's the common opponent? Louisville. They both be Louisville. Right, but didn't wake beat a more if we're going to say. No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, was like what 30 to 27 or 27, 24? It was like a fuel roll. But obviously if wake loses an SNU, like that's yeah. Yeah, wake beating by three. Speaking I do think yeah, like, yeah, wow. Do you know what FPI has weak sides of making the play off air right now? Like 50 53.1 better in a coin flip for wake for they got it. Oh, no, they call time out. They just we see where it says Cody Campbell field yet, bud. Okay, now I do. Yeah, yeah, do you think that I mean that could have been bigger. Well, we'll see time out. We'll see what ends up happening with the number 15 team in the college football playoff rankings, but that was re-ranking the top 25 sponsored by Modello. While the rankings may change week to week, Modello will always be at the top of our list as the perfect companion for a college football Saturday. Remember college football season is Modello season. As we're sitting here, 124 left. Let's let's wrap up the rest of the day as we saw it. What else is on the notepad. Good win for Iowa didn't get a chance to see it, but I didn't shout out. So I don't know how much to make of it. We're trying to take good win. Yeah, but there were seven and two. Like I mean that we can't say that the. Oh, and Charles didn't exist. So the game didn't happen. No, the game happened. There's seven and two. It's a good result for the Hawkeyes who have gone through this schedule and put themselves right back in Iowa position. Being like right on the doorstep. You beat a couple rivals and you're going to finish with eight or nine wins. That's great. I mean, the takeaway for like you're 10. Yeah, finish with 10, you know, until Illinois beats them, but like it's like Nico Marqueo comes in. He's 2432 for 181 yards. He rushes for 52 yards and you're like, well, I mean, hey, he played well. The difference was without Charles in there, Iowa did not really have to worry about anybody like testing them vertically. Like there was no stress first defending when Northwestern. They were very happy to let him kind of dink and dunk his weight on the field to do all that kind of stuff. So yeah, I wouldn't do a ton on offense themselves, but they didn't really need to. They did turn the ball over twice. They continue to lose the turnover battle in win, which is just so out of character for them. Yeah. So I think that I do wonder at some point it might catch him. Florida loss. I haven't gotten a chance to pick it apart yet, but. Not good. I don't know if Florida is having one of the oddest seasons in recent memory. There are offense has been crap for a month now. Yeah, like a calendar month. I was bad against Texas. They messed up. I know what you wanted it so bad. You put it all on the line. You said, I know Todd Golden is problematic, but just give us this national championship will sell anything, anything. That is a, that's a basketball school ass football season to peak early. Give me one, give me one signature win to let me hit the top 10 early. And then when basketball season starts, let's just pack it in. Good call, good call. You know, this was like, I'm, I didn't, I didn't watch a lot of this game. I barely saw any of it, but just like looking at the box score just. I mean, Oklahoma's defense did the Oklahoma defense thing. Just completely smothered them from the looks of it. And it's like, Oklahoma's offense has been so bad all year that just like a mediocre performance has everybody saying, hey. Fire in the OC was a great move. It's, it's everything's fixed. But the offense didn't exactly just statistically again. I can't really speak to how it looked, but statistically it does not look like Oklahoma was all that impressive either. Texas states put it on Oregon state, right? They are like, that's a problem for Oregon state going to the back 12th autogam. We still have to deal with flex week, man. I think people have kind of figured out the Oregon state offense. Because it's been trending this way for about a month now. Like each week it gets a little bit worse. Ever since we had a midseason commitment ceremony. Yeah. Hey, that was on CBS Sports HQ, bud. Hey, we both got some things out of that, right? You got leverage and we got ratings. 41-28 Wyoming with a lead out in Las Vegas. How about Wyoming turning the season around, man? They have been, Wyoming's been good last couple weeks. I would have not been keeping an eye on that score at all. That is a surprising score. Did not see that once again. They're going to be five and one in the mountain west. I've been pretty invested in them because I have, I have some Wyoming season long win total stuff. And they've turned it around. Like quarterback can play. Are we excited about this turn? I think so. Yes, I am excited about this. If they, if they win tonight and they're definitely trending towards it, they've got UTEP left, which will probably be a win, I would assume. And then they do have New Mexico. But like they're, they've got a real good shot of getting the mountain west title game at this point. I mean, it's, they need, they'll probably need North to, they beat all they lost in North Dakota. Yeah, they need, they need, they need the bison to lose at least one more. And the bison's last three games are at Hawaii, which could be difficult and I you, which will not be difficult and then at San Jose State. So too long road trips. So maybe they slip up. But yeah, I guess I don't, it's still going to be tough for them to get there. They're going, they might have to beat New Mexico to have a real chance. Speaking of college basketball, shout out to the Ion College Basketball Podcast. That is my go to podcast for college basketball updates. And in the spirit of the Ion College Basketball Podcast, trivia time. Who had a better passer rating? Tate Reynolds or Bryant West Go Junior? Bryant West Go Junior. Yes, that is the answer. One for one for 36 yards. Where were you when the climp sin tigers won an ACC game with a bud? You'll love this 32% success rate. I mean, look, we want to thank Tate Reynolds for solving our problems last week, putting us out of our misery and forever a goat in in telehassy. How pissed are climp sins fans that like, okay, you got the big win last week. Then you went back to being yourself this week and you won about, but like my being yourself, like that, that's. Do you know another way that this pod has something in common with the Ion College Basketball pod chip? What's that? Barely mentioned Illinois. I gave you the opportunity to say Friday results. Spend like, you know, spend like 10 seconds on it and then move on to that. That is your part about now. I'm talking about their pod. You know, they'll spend 10 seconds talking about Illinois. Then they'll move on to Yukon and nor Landry will talk about Danny. Him and Danny tights tights can be Gary will talk about Memphis for some reason. Nobody cares, but he'll talk about him. God forbid they talk about Illinois. Do you think they can't pronounce Mark of it? Probably, you know, good call. Yeah, they're very, they're, I mean, they weren't in Houston to cover the elite eight win. I was in Houston to cover the elite eight win, you know, maybe a little bit of xenophobia going on. Stop it. Stop it. Stop right now. Tom, we got some, we got some record keeping to do on the win totals tab in a good way. In a good way. In a good way. Yeah. Awesome. You can mark my two lane under seven and a half as a win. You can mark chips under four and a half Sacramento state as a win. But they covered. But they. You could also mark chips Air Force over six and a half as a win. Let's go baby planes finally grew up. That's a win for me too. All right. Michigan state under is still still active. Pretty sure is Cal. The Cal put. Cal is off this week, right? Yeah. Yeah. Cal is off this weekend. It's been so bad. I don't think they're getting seven and five. Did you already? You know, you know, you know, definitely lost today, sorry to cut you off my Utah under eight and a half. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Did y'all read the runner of air quotes? Yes. Oh no. Is this for a Vera trying to power play him to get the head coaching job? I've seen that floated. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if I'm ready to take that step. I just know that it is an awful, awful look to have your general manager say, I've been really working with him. I've been trying to hold his hands, some things he's taking, some things he's not. You can mark Danny's Michigan over in just an L. Maybe over seven and a half is a loss, by the way, because they're three and six tough season for the midshipman after they were riding so high too. Can't estate over seven and a half's lost because it was six six six six six six six six six. I didn't watch any of Wisconsin Rutgers, neither did I say that in common. I'm sure. I mean, they got Wisconsin got bowl eligible. That's huge. They needed that. But I've not got I've not gone through the DVR to see all the touchdowns for Boise 64 points. They scored against Colorado State, but those games continue to be football adjacent. I don't even know if I can call them football. They are football adjacent sporting contests that are happening. They're wearing helmets and they're wearing pants. Yeah, I think that I think that I've got I think that's the no pad. Yeah, I don't have much else on mine that we haven't gone over. Yeah. Oh, yeah. More giveaways. Do y'all know about the giveaways? Do y'all even know that on Monday's show, we are giving away free hats? Yeah, that's right. We got cover three tailgate hats. You might have even seen these cover three tailgate hats. These cover three hats, well, no, not those. Yeah, yeah, this one cover three tailgate hats cover three tailgate trucker hats. We're doing a giveaway on Monday. It is to celebrate us finally hitting our latest subscriber goal. Yeah, it wasn't just about getting us out on the road. 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