Week 10 Breakdown: CFP Expanding To 24 Teams, Coaching Carousel, Overreactions & MORE!

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It is also a Monday at 11 AM Eastern time, that means we are going to have an assistant coaching version of the coaching carousel with the firing of Jason Beck, Jason Beck, offensive coordinator at Michigan, circling back to Dana Holger, Senate, Nebraska and Ohio State firing special teams coach Robbie Disher, all things to be able to get into as well as some of our usual upon further review, under the hood type stuff, but first, not something Tom that I think needs a full unpacking, considering it is news that we have discussed debated, but often for months now at this point, the lot of inevitability, I think was our tone when it came to the future of the college football playoff and its potential expansion to 24 teams, you feel free to outsource me and go big capital J journalists, but I was really more of a meteorologist just looking at the wind and the system patterns, figuring we'd end up here eventually because we are live right now on youtube.com/cover3 and because the conversation is ongoing in the tailgate, a few minutes now that it's official, a 1.7 billion dollar agreement that has for the next five seasons, the college football playoff at 24 teams that will begin in 2027 next season. Let's do it this year. We can do the logistics come on, it's not that hard. If we learned anything in 2020, we can schedule things a week ahead of time. Let's just do it this year. I would say that my pushback to doing it this year is I can at least be excited about the idea of what the 22 seed looks like and after all the top 25 rankings that we've been doing, Tom, I don't know if I'm excited about the 22 seed in the 20 in this particular season, but see this is I think this is what we need to like maybe we need to push this to get people really on board behind this expansion. What if the 24 team field means no more Tuesday night BS rankings, which you can't watch it nine p.m. each of the next two weeks. Number one, Illinois basketball fan, Tom Frenell is going to get used to having split screen in his align eye and the selection committee hunter, your check and Brad Underwood, those are your next two Tuesday nights, buddy. We were so locked in. I know we're going to be live nine p.m. Eastern time, each of the next two Tuesday nights here on youtube.com/cover3. I don't know what would happen with the selection show. I know the selection show is part of the television deal, but I think we also can choose what we do and how we respond to the selection show as well. TBD in that. I think I mean, I think they'll probably try it right away, but I wouldn't be surprised if it just goes away because it's probably not going to do much as far as ratings are concerned because nobody's going to be like, oh, I got to see if we're 23rd or 25th, you know, it's so, yeah. I don't know, just as for the entire thing itself, I don't really have a whole lot to add to it that we haven't gone over a million times, but I will just say I am amused because when you're online and you see like the news breaks and it's all the same people with the same reactions they've had to it 55,000 times already. And so many of those people were the same people who wanted to go to 12 to begin with. And just it was like I told you, I don't know if you're a member, we've been doing this show for a while, but one of us was on this show all the time saying, you know, if they go to 12, they're not going to stop, right? Right. Nobody seemed to care. And now all those people are just like, I can't believe they're doing this. So personally, I'm very amused by it, but it's kind of strange because I'm all 424 now, which is not something I thought I would have said even a year or a half ago. But at this point, I think it makes far more sense for where the sport is in 2026 and 2027 to have a 24 team playoff than a 12 team playoff. I second day in a row, I've dropped this one. I understand why we got here. I have heard all of the reasoning from all of the stakeholders. I don't love college football for the pursuit of the national championship. I think the move from 12 to 24 teams and the idea that it makes the regular season meaningless is true for about 15 to 20 college football programs. And I love more than 15 to 20 college football programs. I pay attention to more than 15 to 20 college football programs and a lot of college football programs go through decades, without ever even whiffing the idea of competing for a national championship. It's simply not why I signed up for this sport. And so you're going to continue to change the postseason. Me, I understand why we got here. Seems like a lot, you know, just it's a little overwhelming to sort of think about the mass of it all. But I'm curious at this point, now that we've made it official and now that the inevitability has because come to fruition. Well, we will have very different conversations about teams 15 through 40 heading into the 2027 season because of this postseason. One quick little note before we move on, I think you are vastly overestimating how many teams this makes meaningless for the regular season because I've gone over this before. Since 2014, there are only two programs in the country who have finished in the top 24 every single year. Alabama, Ohio State, that's it. Every other program is at least finished outside the top 24. So everybody who thinks that every school of some certain schools are going to get in 100% of the time. Nope. And that was before the NIL and transfer portal. You think I'm, oh, you think I've got too many schools on. I don't think I think a lot, there are a few schools who will be in most years, but we're seeing what happens now with injuries when you're playing all these more conference games. Look what's happened to these programs. They don't have the depth they used to. A couple injuries can really tank your season like right now. Ohio State, if we were in a 2014 field with what they have left to play, there's a, in the way they've been playing. There's a decent chance they wouldn't make a 2014 field this year. Yeah. We keep talking about worth season since 2011 for those Ohio State book guys. Those book guys would not have made that field certainly. And now they are careening in that direction. Well, that's a, that's a great pivot as Ohio State is one of the places where we've got some changes. Just because its assistance doesn't mean it ain't in carousel. So let's take a spin on the coaching carousel. Michigan has fired offensive coordinator Jason Beck in what might be one of the most expensive assistant coaching firings that we have seen. Now, I'm going to let the lawyers litigate this one out. But Tom, I have seen the reported number that 10 million American dollars might be contractually required to buy out Jason Beck who joined Kyle Wittingham coming over from Utah arrived with a sterling reputation. A lot of hype combined him with the talents and the tools of Bryce Underwood. And even some of the pieces that we knew were there on that Michigan offense. And what it has produced is one of the worst offenses in the entire country. Michigan fell to 2 and 4 in big 10 play over the weekend. They are averaging just 19.3 points per game on the season. They are outside of the top 120 in scoring offense. Look under the hood advanced numbers to those aren't good either. Is this accountability? Is this red meat for the fire? Okay, this is a red meat firing. I mean, Wittingham said after the game on Saturday that he had no plans to fire Jason Beck. And then the next day, Jason Beck is fired. Like, I don't think this was really Kyle's decision. I think that this came from, you know, this was like a hey, we need to do it. We need to move on. And again, they're paying $10 million to make their offensive coordinator go away. This is definitely red meat. I do not think that it is the last firing we're going to see from this staff. Like, again, I still don't think Kyle Wittingham will be back next year, but I think that for now with three games left, you had to give the fan base something just to kind of calm the situation down. And Jason Beck has been, I mean, even more than Wittingham in some areas has been the target of anger from a lot of the Michigan fan base because the offense has been horrible. Like, it's, they averaged 0.55 points per drive against Michigan State on Saturday night. That is, The second worst performance. performance they've had in a game as far as points for drive in the last 10 years. Whoa! Now, it gets better. The worst was 0.46 against Indiana two weeks ago. So as far as points for driver concerned, the two worst games that Michigan's had in the last 10 years have come in the last two weeks. The week five game against Minnesota is tied for fourth in that span. So four of the top five in the last 10 years have come in the last month. I mean, this offense has been in a really, really bad spot. Like Bryce Underwood took a lot of the heat for it early. They've changed it from Bryce. It turns out it might not just have been Bryce. It might just be the offense itself. Just bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. Like Michigan state, like the reason I took Michigan minus 13 and a half as my three star lock was not like overall belief in Michigan's offense, it was that Michigan state's defense had been beat to hell. Like they have been down to third, fourth, and fifth string players. And now they had the buy and they were getting a little healthier. But still that team has lost a lot of key players on that side of the ball. And Michigan still couldn't figure out a way to move the ball against them at home in a rivalry game. After I mean, it's like at least last week they were moving the ball against Rutgers. They were just missing field goals. That made that game a lot closer than it really was at home against Michigan state. I mean, yeah, not not a big shock at all. The the number attached to it is though crazy. Like $10 million for a freaking cool wardinator buyout chip. I'm going to trust the tailgate's journalistic integrity. Your average fan user name says from 2001 to 2025. Michigan was shut out at half time, just three times. Those are 24 years of Michigan football. Zero on the scoreboard at half time, three times. And it's happened three times in the last four games. Yeah, and yeah, okay, they had like I was going. I was telling you the stat about the points for drive eight times in the last decade they have finished a game with fewer than one point per possession. And three of them were in the last four games. I mean, could you imagine if we also had the Western Michigan loss on this resume too? That came, I think, was it about 1.1? Yeah, I mean, I'm just I'm thinking about just the big picture. And you know, you put it you put your flag on the ground. You'll see how things go in terms of Kyle Wittingham and how how they might choose to be able to move forward there. Earlier in the weekend, Nebraska moved on from Dana Holgerson. Another one where I'm flashing back to our time in Chicago at big 10 media days. These are two offensive coordinators and two quarterbacks in Bryce Underwood and Anthony Kalandria. And the conversations we had with Kyle Wittingham and the conversations we had with Matt Rule. A lot of the season preview included excitement about what this coach quarterback combo could lead to. What did not go right for your eye with Dana Holgerson and the Corn Huskers this year? I mean, you know, it's the second time that the team has fired their offensive coordinator after facing Illinois. And when Oregon did it, I completely understood it if just based on what I'd seen in that game. I mean, obviously I'd been watching Oregon all year, but it was just a lot of really kind of head scratching decisions and things that they were doing that made no sense. And just obvious that like this guy has no idea what he's doing. He is way and over his head. With Dana, I don't think that he had-- I don't think it's a lack of competence. I don't think it's not knowing what he was doing. It was just the offense isn't working. And there was nothing that Nebraska did that I looked at and was like, why are we doing this? Like, why aren't we just sticking with that? I think it's just the personnel hasn't been good enough. And you had to pay a price for it. And you look like the-- we've gone over it. I shared those stats last week. Nebraska's been really bad in one-score games. It is the same season over and over again where they're getting off to really good starts. And then the second half of the year, they are collapsing. And I think that for Nebraska fans, this is kind of like a Jason Beck situation, in which Matt Rule got that extension in the offseason. The odds are that unless he decides to go away or Nebraska really wants to bite a big bullet, Matt Rule's not going anywhere. But sometimes you have to toss the angry mob something to get them to back off a little bit. And I feel like Dana might have been tossed. Because whether it's truly his fault or not, doesn't change the fact that that offense hasn't done anything for a while. Like, they are struggling to move the ball. They are struggling to score points. They don't really have an incredible deep threat. Like, vertically in the passing game, either at receiver and Clandrea has just not looked very accurate to me. When he's moving the ball down the field vertically, so they're very limited in what they can do. And it is really impacting them on their schedule as schedule has gotten a little bit tougher here in the second half of the year. So yeah, I think this is a red meat higher. I don't know if there's a change they can make schematically this year that is going to ultimately change how that offense looks the rest of the season. We'll see. Yeah, I mean, with just three weeks left in the season, making this is addressing the concerns of a fan base administration or both. I don't know what you're going to be able to put in that's going to greatly change what they're able to accomplish on the field. Did you sense, we mentioned, I think, on the incident reaction show as we were winding things down, looking back at it, Oklahoma fans feel like their new guy Jason Witten. Look at this offense. We're often running now. Ben Arbuckle might have been red meat fire, too, right? Mm-hmm. I mean, well, I think that Ben Arbuckle was probably red meat, but I also think it was very much deserved because it's not as if, you know, that- So that's more like Drew Merringer situation where you think that you might have been able to actually save, so I said, because preventables has with this win and with being able to have just a little bit of a better performance. John Matier will go through all my individual stats from the weekend, John Matier didn't stand out, but he looked a lot better than he has at times earlier this season. Now, John Matier compared to John Matier three or four times other than this season is one of his better performance. So, like, ultimately, you're going to have at least a thumbs up for an overall impact here. Yeah, but I also think that it is a I can't use that word, but it is a tallest, short person kind of view of how that game was because the following can be true from like a success rate and a points per drive perspective outside of the U-TEP game to open the season which Oklahoma won 51 to nothing. And again, it's U-TEP, so who gives a crap? That was the best game that they've had offensively. But the 2.3 points per possession that they had, if you were to look nationally, that would rank 70th overall in the nation. The 44.3% success rate that they had in that game- That's average. If you looked nationally, that would rank 40th ninth. So, like, it was a very much a, hey, we were an average offense for a game, but compared to how it had looked, right. Woo, baby, we are going to the top. We are never going to lose another game. Jason Witten is an offensive wonder kind to make him the head coach. He's the next Lincoln Riley. But that worked, you know, it worked, it worked. It worked, but still, I mean, that's it. I mean, I'm not trying to, but like, think of how happy Oklahoma fans were with that performance. Were they like dumping Gatorade on Jason Witten on the sideline after it? Chip, they scored 23 points. 23 against a Florida defense that has hemorrhaged points to teams all season long. Like, Florida's probably looking at that like, hey, that was one of our better defensive performances on the season. Yeah, I don't know if we're going to get that from Nebraska because I do think Oklahoma has better personnel to your point of diagnosing the problem. Oklahoma has a little bit better personnel. What about the special teams issues? Are we, we've, we've had Ryan Day special teams linked together in the Ohio State Rage word cloud for, I don't know, his entire tenure as a head coach pretty much. And now we find out on Monday that he has fired special teams coach Robbie Dishard. This comes at the conclusion of that loss to Oregon that had more special teams blunders. What's, what is the, we, we're going to have a little bit of a bigger conversation about the butt guys coming up and upon further review. But is this another red meat Monday? Yeah, I, I think that you, I mean, Ohio State fans have been complaining about their special teams units for years. And for years, it was Parker Fleming who was their special teams coordinator, which was getting our friends stats of or yell that. This is not Parker Fleming a friend. We were getting, he was getting yelled at for years on Twitter because of Ohio State special teams problems. Much the same way that Jason Beck, the reporter has been getting yelled at for James Beck's Michigan's offensive coordinator all season long. But Robbie Dishard was hired this year. And Robbie Dishard had been the special teams coordinator at Illinois before this. And he was in his very first season. And Ryan Day needed some red meat. He looked around. Who is the newest person here? It's him. They hand that fake punt. Great timing. He's got to go. We got to give him something. And I mean, it's like Ohio State special teams were not great this year. They have been great in a while. It's been a kind of a common theme throughout Ryan Day's tenure there. But I mean, special teams were the common theme through Nick Sabin's tenure at Alabama too. Like that was always when you have a great offense and a great defense every year. When your special teams isn't outstanding, it's going to stand out more. But this to me, yeah, very much red meat. I do not think it is a coincidence at both Michigan and Ohio State are firing assistance. this weekend, just everybody in that little rivalry's mad. That game at the end of the year is just going to be hilarious and depressing all at the same time. As it is for a lot of college football and rivalry weekend in late November. So, yeah, well, hey, welcome to the party, boys. 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So let's take them to task and hold the session. All right, as we discussed, it's a little bit of an unenviable position to try to peel apart all the different complicated ways that these teams played against each other during a chaotic week 10. But as we mentioned, yes, Utah, picking up some more first place votes as they move up into number two, Notre Dame collecting five first place votes. But the hold on number one is fairly strong from the Jaoja Bulldogs. 53 first place votes go Kirby Smart's team's way as they take over the new number one spot. Following, speaking of Parker Fleming, I was thinking about this. The Jaoja over Ole Miss won the How Bad To Be Success Rate Margin. And I was looking at all the teams at the bottom. And I think that might be one of the largest success rates against a quote unquote, not quote unquote, the one of the largest success rates against a good team that I might have seen this season. Yeah. I don't know. I've seen that margin with a against a team that is good. The top 10 game. And like just absolutely, it looked like the same kind of success rate difference you see earlier in the year when it's like Georgia versus Arkansas or Georgia versus Western Kentucky. You know what I mean? It was the same kind of gap where it was just startling. Well, it was USC against Missouri State when Lincoln's goose in the FBI, you know? I guess it was bananas. And they did it against a team like that incredible performance that we I think did a good job of, you know, tipping our hats to the dogs on Saturday night. But yeah, they do take over at number one. Miami falls out of the top spot. They are down to number five. Indiana stay in snug at six. Okay. I mean, their resume got worse and almost top to bottom with the results of this weekend. So that's that was surprising to me. BYU and Kentucky each fall after taking their second loss of the season, both down a handful of spots to the edge of the top 15. Tennessee jumps up not ahead of Alabama, but they do jump up inside the top 10. What do we make of the changes in the AP poll? Uh, first of all, rest in peace to the Missouri must be ranked at all times. Principal Mizzou falling out did ask for an emergency podcast. I did yesterday. I was I was shocked when that came out. Mizzou wasn't at number 25, but I guess all good things have to come to an end. So I will look back on that time in our lives. And remember, finally, thank you, Mizzou. Thank you, AP voters. Uh, it's there's nothing in here that is truly egregious to me. In the consensus. Yeah. In the consensus. There are some individual stuff that kind of caught my eye. I'll start with a Kirk Kenny who has you taught number five. And no other voter has them lower than third on their ballot. So it's like I looked at it. He has them ranked behind his top four are Georgia, Notre Dame, Indiana and UCLA. And as you mentioned, like Indiana, that resume. And this is another thing too, because I didn't go through the list of names. But a lot of voters also have Indiana ahead of Notre Dame. And I didn't I'm not going to list them individually, but it's just we need to go over this Indiana resume right now because they had the week off, but they've lost to Ohio State, which as you mentioned, is worse now, although they still deserve credit because Ohio State at the time was full strength for 80% of that game. That was when Julian Sand got hurt. But like their best win right now is Northwestern. Northwestern is six and three. Northwestern just lost to Iowa 21 to 10, like, like, they're Nebraska, which also looks far worse. The Michigan win in which they struggled to win, by the way, looks much worse. So I don't know what voters are looking at when they're deciding to put Indiana ahead of like Notre Dame or Utah or anybody in that top five, frankly, right now. I mean, I don't know that Indiana deserves to be head of Alabama or Texas outside of their win loss record. So that that is strange to me. I'd love to hear an explanation for that. Another interesting aspect, we discussed on Saturday night when we were forecasting tomorrow's top 25, whether it would be Georgia or Utah. Well, five voters had Notre Dame at number one, Cameron. Yeah, Cameron Cox, Garland Gill and Henry Greenstein, Nick Jacobs and Randy Johnson, not that one. The other unit, I guess we'll call this Randy Johnson little unit. No, no, not little, just other unit. Other all have Notre Dame at number one. I can understand that from the perspective of they beat Miami, who was number one, but I don't know if you could realistically argue they have the better overall resume than Georgia, at least if you're looking at the one-loss teams, I don't know how you compared Georgia and Notre Dame. Like if you want to dock, Utah and say, I don't really love their schedule that much. Like, okay, but if you're comparing them to Georgia, it makes no sense. And then I don't think Notre Dame fans even think Notre Dame or number one. I think Notre Dame fans are happy with the win and think they've got a coach who can lead them on another deep playoff run, a quarterback who's among the best in the country. Like all those things are good, but I mean, truthfully, it sounds like a six-year-old logic. You beat number one, so now you take number one. Mm-hmm. And then just another weird kind of ballot to me is Mike Griffith, the Atlanta Journal Constitution. Notre Dame six, Miami ninth. And again, he's one of those other voters who has Indiana ahead of both like Notre Dame and Miami and Tennessee and Texas. And it's just, it's, I don't know, like if you don't want to put them number one, fine, but like dropping Miami to nine, dropping Notre Dame to six, when if you look at all the metrics, whether you're looking at strength of record, strength of schedule, like people knock Miami and Notre Dame for their strength of schedule because they haven't played any big games. Both of them have stronger strength of schedules than Indiana does. Mm-hmm. So it's just, yeah, I think the too many people, the recency bias I think is playing a big role here, but that's a ballot where recency bias played absolutely no role because Indiana didn't play anybody. What about the, and I feel free to share or don't share just Alabama, Texas, Tennessee, I posted the updated, I posted the updated CBS Sports 138 here this morning on CBS Sports.com. When you look at our average ballot rating, like our average ballot rankings across everybody who votes in the CBS Sports 138, things get very, very tied up and knots in a way where I can tell that there's not a lot of consensus about the way those teams are ordered. What's your sense about the way the voters, what the voters are saying here? Because clearly, this is a consensus. There are voters who have Tennessee ahead of Alabama acknowledging the 26 to 10 win. It's not a monolith here that everyone speaks with the ignoring head-to-head, even though they're in the same cluster, ready to be kissing cousins right there at number seven and number nine. How do you sort all that out when looking at that trio of SEC teams just inside the top 10? I want to, like, it's, I think context matters here in that head-to-head matters, but at this stage of the season, it can't just be the only thing you look at. It has to be a tiebreaker. And when we came to, like, last week's playoff rankings, the reaction to Alabama being where it was wasn't just that it was ahead of Tennessee. It was that it was, what, 10 spots. Way ahead of Tennessee. And people were. trying to figure out how there was that large of a gap between the two. So I don't mind if you have Alabama ahead of Tennessee right now. If you're trying to just look at the whole of their resume, I think you can argue Alabama has been more impressive on the season than Tennessee has been, but Tennessee was much more impressive in that one game. So I don't mind it. I'm not gonna be mad at anybody that has them close with Alabama just slightly ahead of them, but if they are in your mind tied, there is no reason to have Alabama ahead of Tennessee, but I don't think anybody that does view it that way would have Alabama ahead of Tennessee. - Yep. Any other ballots that you would have your eyes on? - No, nothing overly agreed. Just like the same usual suspects that typically have like very, very outlier ballots, have all the same outlier ballots this week. - Kokey. - Kokey, Stephen Means, those guys like, but you expect it by this time of year. Like they've been doing it every week. So it's like you can't just hammer them for the same things every week. Well, Utah did end up moving up into that number two spot and the Utah youths better be hungry. Oh, Utah, y'all better be hungry because a delicious box of assorted pop tarts is coming your way as the football writers association of America has announced that the Utah youths are the pop tarts bowl crazy good team of the week after the 28 to 20 rivalry victory over BYU in Rice Eccles Stadium. They got out to the early lead. They gave up a 20-O run, then climbed back into that one and came up with the defensive stops late, turning over Bear Bachmire and being able to secure the victory that has them moving up in the AP poll that has them sitting right there in control of the big 12 title race with the six and O ranking. This is Utah's fourth FWA national team of the week selection and the first one with the youths have had since 2021. Obviously, this is a game that highlights all the different things that quarterback Devin Devin here can do as he accounted for all four touchdowns while he had the throwing touchdowns. He had the rushing touchdowns and then, of course, being able to get those big plays late. Utah's defense taken over in the second half. I thought there were a couple of good options, but this is the same group that selects the all-america team every single year. So what would you make of Utah as the FWA team of the week for week 10? - I mean, I think it makes a ton of sense in that. Like, there were obviously other big games with big stakes this weekend and maybe you can argue, like, Georgia played better than Utah did against another computer. - Or noted, I mean, I was thinking, Utah, Georgia, noted a name. Like, those three teams felt like the biggest winners of the week. - But when you consider the rivalry aspect of it, how long it had been since Utah beat BYU and what this win means for them as far as, like, the big 12 in the title. I mean, they're number two in the poll now, Chip. Like, this is a huge, huge win for the Utes. And it was, you look at this team early in the year when they were dominating teams, but playing nobody. And you were just, you were never quite sure what to make of them. And then they got into that little lull where against Kansas and Colorado, they started to look a little bit more like ordinary, even though they hung on to win those games. And I got, I'll be, like, I was questioning this team as they were heading into that Houston game. And as they were heading into the BYU game. And then that Cincinnati game too, where they just went on the road after the huge win against Houston and just completely crushed the bear cats in that kind of let down sandwich spot. And then to come out and beat BYU, like, they got off to an incredible start. There was the lull after that. But as you mentioned, Devon Damper did a little bit of everything for that offense when Wayshawn Parker got banged up. And it kind of impacted their ability to run the ball very effectively. Although, I think BYU's defense played a role in that too. But just a huge win for them. And I can't help but like think about what we started the show talking about. - I know, I was just about to say, the University of Utah made a decision that we want Morgan Scali to lead this program. And we are going to hand it to him. And that decision looks like it was a good one. - Yeah, I mean, they're getting pop tarts. Like, you've already won. - He got his old helmet back. Did you catch that note from the broadcast? - I did, I did, yes. - Yeah, that was a fun extra rivalry wrinkle. - Just steal his helmet and-- - Neighbor stole his helmet, right? - No, I know. Like, won't you be mind Mr. Rogers would never? - Yeah, you've got the helmet back. And now you're getting a big collection of pop tarts coming your way. As part of the celebration of the Utah Utes being named the Pop Tarts Bowl. Crazy good team of the week for week 10. Our thanks to the Football Riders Association of America for the partnership in being able to honor the Pop Tarts Bowl crazy good team of the week here on the cover three podcast. It is an honor that has been handed out for a long time. And certainly a part of the college football conversation every single week. Well, something else that happens every single week during the season is being able to get one last look back at the week that was. We call it upon further review and more. - Nukest. - One great highlight of our Monday show because Saturday night goes live at 11.30, right? Light goes red and we're just talking. We're just saying everything that we saw, not a lot of time to catch our breath and recap things. That's why we've got this next section. Let's go under the hood. - Upon further review. - There were terrible calls. Do you want to go ahead and jump in? - After further review. After further review. - I'll get further review. This first item is exactly what a pun further review is for. We are just sort of talking about everything we saw on the field. We don't always get to hear from the players and coaches involved by the time we get to you here on youtube.com/cover3, which meant that I got to, I did not get a chance to get my ears on Mario Christopal and his response. We acknowledge some of the Miami fans in the tailgate and what their perspective on the Elijah Loft and no touchdown call was. But boy, that seemed to be top of mind. Let's hear from Mario Christopal. - You know I'm pissed off. So, what do you want me to say? I mean, it's bullshit. And I'll leave it at that. And again, that's what he was seen by them. So I got to live with it and respect it. And our players got to live with it. And we got to do better. And you know what? Again, don't leave in the hands of the officials. Play better, coach better. Find the way to win. But I, I can't, again, I don't need to be criticizing officials. I just need a new one. - Not a lot of criticism for those official officials after the Florida State game. - No, we weren't gonna, we weren't gonna complain about officiating after we won that game. - Or the North Carolina game. You know, it's tough to call it on sides, you know. - We don't, we don't complain about officiating when we win, only when we lose. Listen, I set it on Saturday night. The rule is very clear. There is no way that that is a catch by the rule. If you want to complain about the rule and say that they need to change the rule, where at least in the end zone, if you establish possession and get two feet down, at least for a fraction of a second, 'cause like you look at it as if the ball crosses the plane while it's in your hands and you hold onto it no matter where you, it's a touchdown. So you can argue like, hey, if he's got it in his hands and he gets his feet down even for a fraction of a second in the end zone, that should be it, touchdown. You want to change the rule, go to the rules committee, pitch it, see if they will change the rule. As the rule is written, how many times have you heard the phrase, complete the process of the catch? He did not. He went out of bounds. The ball got knocked out of his hands, it hit the ground. He did not complete the process of the catch. You don't need to bitch about the officials, Mario, because they called the rule correctly. I'm sorry, it's just, it's, and I don't get like, I have no problem with Miami fans complaining about it. 'Cause like when you lose a game, especially like, you're angry about it and that's what fans are going to do. But at this point, we need to just, all right, it sucked, but the rule was correct. We don't need to go after the officials for being correct. There are so many times officials are wrong and we can go after them for that. When they get the call right and you just don't like the rule, bitch about the rule, not the official. At which, that you can do, yeah? That's, I think that there's a lot more time for that there. Anything else from Miami Notre Dame in general that, as you've gone back to like, review, recalculate and look at this one, you wanted to bring attention to? I mean, I will say, we talked about it a little on Saturday night, like how maybe that game gave us more evidence as to which one of the Miami duo was more. - Heisman worthy? - Heisman worthy. If you go back now and you look at Darian against Notre Dame and you look at Darian against Wake Forest, those are his two as far as yards per attempt. Games worst by miles. So, I mean, we've seen him now against two really, the two best teams that Miami has played. He didn't have Malachi for one, but he had him for the other. Has not been nearly as good. - Vibes perspective. I didn't, it wasn't until the rewatch that I got to see the full sort of scene. South Bend looked absolutely electric. You know, the way it was presented, the entrance, the way that the fans showed out, the environment in that stadium at the beginning of the game, it was, I missed all the theatrics. There were other games going on time. I didn't know if you were there. - Yeah, so to go back and get the full rewatch on it, I was like, wow, that was pretty cool. So from the Vibes department, good job on South Bend and Notre Dame. I knew, of course, that game that they were going to show up, but it delivered. It was really cool. Not surprised that Notre Dame came shot out of a cannon and got out to a hot start. They were jumping. They were loud. It was a cool environment there in that stadium. Yeah, my brother and I, Neff, you were there. They had a good time. I will say, shot out to Noah Eagle, by the way. Yeah. Because Noah did a very good job with Todd on that game, at NBC. And then on less than, you know, 12, 15 hours notice, Noah is driving to Chicago because Mike Toreco is sick and Noah has to call the Bears Buccaneers game on Sunday night. He called it last night. Yeah. And he did a great job on the Bears game last night too. So shot out to Noah Eagle for a hell of a weekend, getting both the Notre Dame Miami game and the Sunday night football game and doing a great job in both. I think that kids, I think that kids go to places chip. I don't think he's a little bird anymore. No, little bird, little bird left the nest and he is soaring. Let's go. Great work. I did not, I didn't get a chance to catch the Sunday night game last night. That's very normal football game. Very normal. Another chaotic Bears game. A very normal football game. Bears won. Bears are a juggernaut. Okay. Let's go. No mistakes whatsoever, right? No. Hey, speaking of things that are moving in the right direction, why don't you tell me a little bit about Oklahoma States quarterback who put up such a crooked. The Oklahoma State as a team put up such a crooked crooked number. We didn't spend a lot of time diving into the nitty gritty of the the game, but the nitty gritty of his game certainly is worth highlighting here. Yeah, I just, you know, we you've been hammering the Oklahoma State team total over every single week and for good reason because they keep scoring points and you just look statistically like Drew Mestermaker last four games. Very, very, very, very, very good. Between passing and rushing, he's got 1456 total yards and 17 total touchdowns. That is more than anybody in the country in that time span. Mensa is second and he's at 1314 yards and only 13 touchdowns. So he's quite a bit behind him in both of these. He's thrown for at least four touchdowns in three of his big 12 conference games. There have only been 25 games between power four conference teams where quarterback is thrown for at least four. And again, he's responsible for three of them. The only other quarterbacks to even have two are Julian saying in DJ lagway. He's just been on fire and he's putting up those stats to where like we've, again, more, well, I'll have more on this too, but just like you look at the Heisman consideration and the way that things have been going now with the Julian saying injury, kind of taking Jeremiah Smith and CJ Carr just kind of becoming the front runner, even though nobody seems all that excited about CJ Carr being the Heisman favorite right now. Jew keeps playing like this. He's probably going to end up in a lot of ballots at the end of the year and he might make his way to New York with that because that's when you put together those stupid statistical seasons, Heisman voters are going to be fine to be able to drop you a two or a three just to be able to acknowledge the production. I mentioned on the lock spot that through five games, a big 12 play, Oklahoma State was at 3.71 points per drive. You're not going to believe this. The number went up, Tom. They're up to 3.87 points per drive in big 12 play. I mean, I don't, I don't. Spoiler going to do it again. Throw in the goofy meme. I'll do it again. They're playing. Let's see. They're playing verse. Oh, they're playing Texas Tech. I mean, they're going to score at least 70. They do what? I mean, Texas Tech and West Virginia last the other night was insane. Yeah, absolutely insane. All right, Tom, why don't you tell us about Gunner Stockton and then I'll have a note on one of his favorite past catchers. Always stay here in the quarterback conversation. Oh, well, let's, let's stay in the Heisman consideration too. As I just mentioned, like nobody seems all that excited about CJ car as, you know, your Heisman winner, like it's the argument right now is he's had one big game and he just kind of takes over by default and you look at the rest of Notre Dame schedule. CJ's probably not going to be in the spotlight much before the college football playoff begins unless they lose, you know what I mean? So like you, you look at it CJ and looking on draft Kings right now, CJ's the favorite. He's just ahead of Mensa. Jeremiah Smith is still third and messed to maker who we just talked about is fourth at plus 1550, but I'm going down the board a little bit and chip. What I want to ask you is at 27 to 1 right now is Gunner Stockton the best Heisman bet on the board, like the, the best value. Yeah, because you look at him like he didn't have huge numbers against Ole Miss, but he was very efficient. He had a lot of big plays, put up numbers, got touchdowns, and they still have games against Mizzou, South Carolina, and the rivalry game against Georgia tech. So there are games that are going to be like next week's game against Mizzou is the, you know, 330 PM spot on ABC that South Carolina game assuming they're still ranked will probably be in one of those spotlight windows on one of the bigger networks. So he's going to be in the spotlight playing in games that people are watching and when you look at the Georgia offense, it's not like there are other superstars on that team that are taking away the spotlight, like some of the other guys have to deal with. If Georgia keeps winning as long as Gunner is not playing like crap, he is going to be seen as the star. So if Georgia wins out, they're sitting there at 11 and one, they're number one in the college football playoff rankings. They win the SEC championship against Alabama or somebody else. 27 to 1 right now, chip for Gunner. I'll take you either one of those quarterbacks. Gunner Stockton and Keel and Russell listed right next to each other. Gunner has more spotlight opportunities left than Keel and Russell does, and Gunner Stockton. Gunner Stockton winning a Heisman trophy. Is that, is this fair? I'm not going to have his stats pulled up, but is that almost like Troy Smith vibes? Yeah, I mean, yeah. Best team, best bet like quarterback, best team kind of situation. The 2006 Heisman trophy winner, playing for Ohio State team that finished as the national runner up. I don't remember him that season just lighting up the scoreboard. It was kind of a little bit more of a, not in a bad way, but an envy. Most outstanding player can be whatever a voter wants it to be. Sometimes it does end up being MVP. So related. I wonder if that could be a similar path if we're trying to tie it to Heisman history. We'll have to hit up our guy Chris Houston to see if, if he can offer any perspective on that. Well, one of the things that's helping Gunner Stockton and certainly helped him the other night against Ole Miss is the play of his wide receiver. And now it's time for he's him sponsored by hymns. There's the guy that you are right now. And then there's the guy that you could be whatever's holding you back hymns has a real plan for it. Be confident. Be him. And while we were looking at Georgia over the last couple of weeks and wondering if there is a red flag, well, it might be the lack of a dude at wide receiver. They've been recruiting very well as they always do, but we're waiting for that player to emerge. Well, Gunner Stockton targeted the young wide receiver talentaylor five times. Talentaylor caught four of those. That's pretty good. What'd you do with that talent? Oh, 140 receiving yards and three touchdowns. Yo. And a lot of these were like him getting open and Gunner delivering. Like this wasn't a screen pass that talentaylor was just, you know, taken to the house. These were 140 hard route running tough catch good yards, good touchdowns. And yes, it did seem to give Georgia an absolute dude it in this game. What'd you see from Taylor? And are we taking away dude potential for somebody who's definitely the he's him of the week? I mean, that that's some decent production averaging a nice solid 35 yards per reception. Four catches 140 yards, three touchdowns. I mean, that was very, very big game average depth of target for the five targets was 20.8 yards for talentaylor. That boy had to get down the field and open. He's he's fixing he is fixing Gunner's air yards per attempt stat all on his own in one single game. They're just trying to get those numbers up for him, but it was an incredible performance. And it's also kind of a continuation of a theme we've seen with Ole Miss all year. That that is a secondary that is not shy about giving up explosives in the passing game. And Talon was able to take advantage of it. Gunner was able to take advantage of it. And also just the fact that Georgia had buried them so quickly was just yeah, it was it was just an absolute avalanche from the Bulldogs and that came from start to finish. And somebody was going to get all the yards out of talent for a huge game. Garrett said the Chacha slide offense turned into the electric slide offense this weekend. Take it back now, y'all. All right, congratulations to Talon, Talon Taylor. Are he's him of the week for that awesome performance. And that was he's him sponsored by hymns. Be prepared, be strong, be confident, be him. Are you ready to be him? Visit hymns.com to get personalized affordable care. That's h-i-m-s.com hymns.com. Coming up on the other side, we continue with a pun further review. Take a look at some of the conference title races. Play a game of bowl or no bowl and let's talk ceiling and floor for Ohio State Ole Miss and LSU. All that and more. Nukest. the cover three podcast as we continue with a pun further review looking back at week 10. I don't have an official graphic for this one. There's not a game that we can play because I understand this conversation is a little bit more nuanced, but there is undeniably panic in the streets of Columbus, Oxford and Baton Rouge here on this Monday morning as they consider where they are with three losses already on the season for all three of these teams. What lies ahead and the potential of if not likelihood that you're going to fall short of your expectations because to speak to anyone around Ohio State Ole Miss and LSU, the expectation was that you would be in the college football playoff at Ohio State that thought was you would play for the national championship. Ole Miss and LSU, I don't think they had a national title or bust, especially year one full season peakgoating, year one Lane Kiffin. But boy, things are looking a little bit tricky for how all of these teams are going to spend their post season. So I wanted to set some ceiling and floor based on your expectations of what we've seen and what's ahead. What does it look like for the buck eyes? What do you see as a way that this can, how does this go well? And is the answer Julian saying just comes back? Yeah, I have a hard time seeing it going overly well without Julian saying, but I don't know that Julian saying is going to come back and I don't, honestly, if he's not a hundred percent, I don't think they should rush him back either. I don't think you want him coming back at 75, 80 percent because it could just really damage you going into the off season and perhaps going into next year. So it is, this is a very difficult team to kind of read because now we have seen them play two games without him. And they're still talented, but they're just not good enough at the other spots with like outside of Jeremiah Smith. They've had other receivers step up, but like there is no really good number two, at least not in the same sense that what we have seen from them in years past. And I talked about it early in the year where it's like I kind of worried that I thought they were going to Jeremiah too much. And now it's like you kind of start to understand it's because they probably just don't trust their other guys nearly as much in key spots. And now there is like I hate the conversation, but it has been brought up by our own people at CBS Damien Harris and Cardale Jones were talking about it post game with Danny on Saturday. What if Jeremiah packs it in? Like it's hard to imagine they're going to win a game without him at this point because the offense is struggling already as it is. If he decides he's not going to play the rest of the season and I don't think he should, it would actually kind of disappoint me if he did deeply. Oh excuse me, I want people to say, I don't think he should pack it in. Not I don't think he should play. All right, I want to address it that that one doesn't get confused. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. It would disappoint me deeply too. And that is probably my strongest thought on the topic. I would yeah, I would understand the decision if that's what he decided to do, but I would still be very disappointed by it. Not that he gives a damn. But like you look at the rest of their schedule, like Northwestern Nebraska and Michigan, Aiden Childs is banged up. If Aiden Childs isn't back next week, I feel like Ohio State should win that game, but I'm not overly confident that they can at Nebraska. But you want to talk about a lipstick on a pig situation if Nebraska were to be able to pull that one out. Just like Matt rule going, we beat Ohio State. That's right. We're back. Oh, remember him going into halftime against Indiana. This is the game of our lives right now. You know, like he's going to juice that one up big time. Been 10 years from now, nobody will remember what that Ohio State was. You could just say we beat Ohio State. Whatever that counter is of how many times you've lost Ohio State in a row, let's reset that buddy. Nobody's going to ask what it looks like. Yeah, like it'll be like Ohio State doesn't go back to Lincoln for another six years and they'll be like, Ohio State hasn't won in Lincoln since 2019. But then it also you get the Michigan game to finish it. So like this is a team that I feel like can win all three of those games, but I feel like they can also lose all three of those games. And the next thing you know, Ohio State's in there at six and six. So the panic meter, I'm panicked. Yeah, I'm all the way up on Ohio State. It seems like we are destined. You mentioned Nebraska's the state of Nebraska football, how bad Michigan is and that it is possible that they also ran into an Oregon team that has started to figure itself out and reset its own ceiling and floor. I mean, that's what Dan said after the game, you know, like just hey, what that what Ryan's going through right now, I was going through a couple of weeks ago. It's just this is this is tough and the buck guys could win all three of their final games. And that would be one of the teams that we're screaming about on selection day, a nine and three Ohio State team like that, that sort of feels like the where we could end up headed given the opponents that are left, but to lose another what I mean, the panic should be high because it is possible with the quality of play that they lose any one of those games and any four law season for Ohio State is an embarrassment given the program standard. So yeah, panic through the roof. I've got LSU safe for last because they play Texas this week on their own home turf at night. That's a circle. The wagons backs against the wall moment. Our friend Michael Snowden who has been who is awesome in his appearance here on the cover three podcast and is in the tailgate right now mentioned the just just really tough scene inside that stadium. So can you shed the somber attitudes? Can Ole Miss like what's the ceiling in the floor here? Can they be able to pull things together? Win out and give themselves a good opportunity at the end of the year? I don't think you have to it's it's a different like panic meter. I don't I think the panicking is over. I think now it's anxiety because you look at the rest of their schedule. It's at Oklahoma, which okay, that's not going to be easy. The Oklahoma defense is still the Oklahoma defense and Trinidad has not looked all that great in a lot of games against tough defenses this year. But again, Oklahoma's celebrating scoring 23 points is if Lincoln Riley's back in town. So you don't have to play great to go on the road and beat this Sooner's team right now. So if you can win that game, you finish with Wofford and Mississippi State who is still Camario lists and has just looked extremely, extremely bad without Camario, although perfect egg bowl would be Camario list Mississippi State beating Ole Miss because that game usually goes to the team that has no right to win. But the fact of the matter is the reason you're anxious is because even if you win out, you're still going to need a lot of help elsewhere. And we have talked about how there's probably going to be multiple three lost teams in the field this year. Ole Miss, when you look at the pecking order of three lost teams is not at the top of it as far as what their overall resume and their strength to schedule all that stuff is going to look like because they lost to Georgia. They lost to Texas. They lost to Florida and that loss has looked worse. Your win over LSU was great and it felt good and cathartic for you, but LSU is in a very similar boat to you are where LSU might finish eight and four. So it's not going to be a huge win. Missouri was a big win but Missouri is now six and three and could finish eight and four. So you're not going to have that big kind of win to compare against these other nine and three teams because like one of those nine and three teams might be Texas and Texas is beating Ohio State. Texas is beating all these other teams and they be you. So they're definitely going to get that edge. So I feel like you need a mini miracle. If your goal is to get to the playoff, you need to win out and you need crazy stuff to happen everywhere else. LSU on the other hand has everything in front of it. Is there still panic though with the way that the performance went against the tide? Yes. I think it's I mean it's not just that you're six and three. It's that you still got to play Texas in Tennessee. Like there's a bud was talking bud had a minute projection on Saturday night and bud is very confident that LSU is going to win out and get in there and I don't know where that's coming from. Maybe bud will be the genius and prove make us look like idiots. They are two and a half point home favorites against Texas Saturday nights. Yeah. And they should be favored but that is not exactly a confident place and I will go to the FBI playoff projections. I'm going to name some teams real quick here for you chip. Okay. BYU, Oregon and New Mexico. Do you know what they all have in common? No. According to FBI, they have a better chance of making the playoffs than LSU. LSU's playoff projection right now is 22.4% because again, they have to play Texas and Tennessee and one more loss is knocking them the hell out. And this is a team where you spent a lot of money to get lane kiffin to come. You spent a lot of money on the roster and you did it all after spending a lot of money to get rid of Brian Kelly. And why did you do all that? Does eight and four wasn't good enough? Is eight and four wasn't good enough? Dammit, we're LSU. We need to be in the playoff. It's a 12 team field. There is no reason for us not to be in there. You're lost away from not being in there again. And then it's like, well, then what the hell do we do next? If we've spent all the money, if we went and got the coach, what? Like, well, what is there left to do? You just try to get next year and cross your fingers and hope for the best, but and you might get in. It's just that's not going to, like, they could have the same thing next year and they might go 11 and want to get in just because they win these games. But man, just it's, you're not happy in Baton Rouge. Maybe panic is the wrong word. Maybe fury, the fury meters to the roof. I mean, it's one of those situations where like any relationship, when you start to look for reasons to be mad about someone, you're going to find them everywhere. And that performance at home against Alabama has an LSU fan going, "I don't care if Paul schemes or angel Reese or Shaq or whoever else you want to have on your celebrity tiger walk. I don't want that anymore. I don't want all of the extra frills of the Lane Kiffin experience. I want wins on the field against the best teams on our schedule. And right now, if LSU does not win out, not only will they be left at eight and four or seven and five, but LSU will be left with zero evidence that this is a team worthy of the talent that was put together and the money that was spent. It's, I mean, it is a situation where like think about it, like, at Ole Miss, if Lane's in the same position, they're not happy, but still, you're not going to exactly be, if you finish nine and three and miss out, you're not exactly furious with the way things worked out because you're Ole Miss compared to LSU, it's just a very different standard and Lane is kind of learning that, "Oh, okay, he's kind of learning what he should've learned when he was at USC, not going to settle for just being good." And also, if I hear him complain about the nine game schedule at any point this week, I would just like to point out, Lane, you've played six games only and you're three and three. So, don't worry about the nine because I know he's going to, he's already brought it up every single week, he's going to bring it up again. Well, that's maybe not practical the way that resources have been tied to results, but you've got something that's pretty practical. And earlier, if you're watching long on youtube.com/cover3, you might have seen a PNC mid-show ad read come down where we talked about running the football, which allows me to be able to highlight a game that we did not get to highlight on Saturday night. One of the great opportunities here on a pun for the review and it is extremely practical because when you find something that is working, Tom, in football, should you stop doing that thing when it's working? Heck no. No, that is why Wyoming ran the ball 53 times 53 rushing attempts for 369 yards against UNLV in a 41 to 35 win in Las Vegas. J saw Vell's group went in there and they said, we don't need no stinking passes. Yeah, just 16 passes. 53 runs, just 16 passes, 53 runs and they just absolutely were not going to be stopped. UNLV did their fair share of being able to score, being able to move the football, but not quite like Wyoming who just rode this in terms of the individuals who helped lead it. We were running all of our quarterbacks. We were running all of our running backs. Samuel Harris stepping in at the running back position with 17 carries for 128 yards and two scores. They did a pretty good job of being able to protect the football. Just one fumble lost across all of those, across all of those rushing attempts, bread and butter football, baby from the pokes in, in, in, in Sin City. What did you make of, of Wyoming here? Just domination on the ground as you've gone over like you don't see teams run for 351 yards a whole heck of a lot unless they are option teams, but just over six yards per clip. Now we, we talked about it a little on Saturday night, but this is a team that has been really hot. They have now won four straight, five of their last six. They are in second place in the Mountain West. They're on the road against UTEP this week. They're likely to win that game. UTEP is not a very good football team there, one in eight, they are winless in conference play. And then, and then New Mexico this week is playing UNLV and that's going to be a tough game. But if New Mexico beats UNLV and Wyoming beats UTEP as we expect them to, November 20th, it's a Friday night chip, New Mexico, at Wyoming, just a huge game in the Mountain West. A playoff bed could be on the line. So just, I, and I cannot believe that we're sitting here on November 9th and we're having a legit conversation about Wyoming being in contention for a playoff spot because I don't think anybody would have ever dreamed of that before the season began hell. They wouldn't have dreamed of it after the season began when they were one and two with only a win against Northern Colorado. Yeah. This is, it's been a really good job of Wyoming turning that season around. You mentioned it. The four wins in a row now have them up to five and one in conference play, five and oh, New Mexico pacing that conference title race. Okay. Anything else upon further review that you want to, you want to play ball or no ball? If you do, I was just going to say upon further review, Blue Wave hasn't even happened a week ago and we're already seeing people taking days off of work left and right chip. I just, I worry about the future. Worry about the future. Everybody just thinks they don't have to work anymore. Thanks. We're living in a welfare state, not, not naming names, not naming names. You be careful. Buds, AI agent will scan the transcript and get a report back to him. It will. You will. Careful. Let's play a little bowl or no bowl here on our way out. TCU is four and five overall after the heartbreaking loss at Arizona. They are looking at a remaining schedule of Kansas state, Utah and Texas tech. They need two wins to reach six and actually, I understand bowl or no bowl given some of the recent reporting about bowl eligibility could be a little bit flexible for our purposes. You understand what we're saying, trying to get to six wins. Is TCU get there needing two wins in the final three? I'll give them Kansas state because Kansas state these last few weeks ever since the every Johnson injury. I don't even think TCU can blow that one at home, but man, you finished with Utah and that Texas tech with both those seems having no reason to overlook you whatsoever. Yeah, because both of them are still very much fighting to get to the big 12 championship and keep their playoff on the line. I have to go no bowl. It's hard. They're going to have to pull off a major upset. I do think that of those games, like you get you taught home, so who knows? You taught us not a jug or not, where I don't think they are capable of not messing up and losing a game. Texas tech has looked very vulnerable. You've got Tommy C. at quarterback. He is a chaos agent. He will make every game close. They have a chance, but if forced to pick one, I can't go anything other direction other than new. No bowl for the TCU horned frogs. What about for Mrs. I agree with you, by the way? Grant in the tailgate offered an interesting is sunny gone either way. No bowl makes it easier, but that decision might have already been made, right? Yeah. Mississippi state also with a four and five record, they are nursing a five game, losing streak, Auburn, Tennessee tech and Ole Miss. So it's right here on the line at home in Starkville. We're going to give you a Tennessee tech time or or the egg bowl, Bonanza. You don't want them to be five and six going into the egg bowl. No, you do not. You do not. You do not. Auburn a three point favorite in Starkville this weekend. You could say that you're basically betting on this one, but uh, but bowl or no bowl? Oh, man, I'm going to go no bowl. I mean, I am not overly confident in Auburn right now. I don't think Auburn is playing very well. I will say Mississippi state kind of like after getting behind early against Vandy seemed to look more competent in that game as they worked their way back into it and they had a chance that they failed them the two point conversion or else they would have tied the game late. So maybe we're seeing them get more competent on offense that will give them more of a chance in that Auburn game this weekend. It is at home, but I just it's tough. It is tough for me to take the Bulldogs to any of those the Auburn and Ole Miss games. Yeah, they'll take down Tennessee Tech rather than that not overly confident. So I guess I have to go now did not get my eyes on Auburn Arkansas or throughout Saturday as I was going back to do all my review and catch up. It was remarkable how poorly things were at the start. And then it seemed as happens a lot, especially in late season games, the better team woke up started putting things together and very quickly right at the ship Arkansas is just not good enough to be able to punish just to be able to punish Auburn when they're playing so bad. Yeah, I will see Auburn's beatable all about that Auburn's beatable Auburn cannot do what they did in the first half against Arkansas again and expected that it's going to go as well when they're playing in Starkville in front of the cowbells. All right, we might play this every Monday the rest of the year though I guess it's more interesting. Washington, this team first teams I gave you were four and five T.C. and Mississippi state. This one's five and four. So it should be easy, right? Well, it is the Washington Huskies, a team that has been wildly inconsistent throughout the season. And their remaining schedule is Michigan State on the road Indiana at home Oregon on the road. They just got to get one. Does Jed Fish's crew do it? Yeah, they'll beat Michigan State this week, especially in the hangover spot with the hangover spot after upsetting Michigan. Like again, and we saw like when Michigan State threw everything it had against Northwestern came up short. They came out the next week and just got obliterated. I think we see a very similar situation this week. I mean, the way that game started with Penn State just. dominating it and Washington fighting back in the second half makes me think that they'll be okay this week on the road against Michigan State. They will get that win held. They might pull off one of the wins against Indiana or Oregon too. I don't expect them to, but I think Indiana is more likely that it is at home and that is a tough road trip for everybody. So I feel confident they will get to a bowl game. It's just they're probably going to be six and six and I don't think anybody's going to be all that happy about it like, will they play the bowl game? I don't know. Will they qualify for one? Yeah. The Washington Huskies and Indiana Hoosiers, Chip Patterson, Chip Olympics are producing an early total for that game at 34 and a half. If you would like to make a wager on Indiana Washington, the game coming up in week 12, that's looking at 34 and a half on the total. I want to look what the line is for their game against Michigan State. They are currently favored by three. And then finally, the four in five Virginia Cavaliers, Tom's Hoos, your Wahoos are a three game losing streak going. They have dropped four of their last five. They have dropped five of their last seven. Really just haven't reclaimed anything close to that week. They were a week zero superstars, but at four and five and a remaining schedule that includes Cal at home, North Carolina at home and the rivalry game against Virginia Tech. They're 12 and a half point favorites against the Bears this weekend. Can they get two out of three Cal, UNC VT? I'll give them Cal at home, North Carolina for Virginia Tech. I mean, there's the rivalry game aspect attack at the end of the year, but you look at Virginia on the road. SMU, they didn't get their doors blown off, but they didn't look great. They lost the Florida State on the road by 31. They lost a wake on the road by 44. It's hard, even in a rivalry game, the way that that team has looked on the road from you to sit there and say they're going to go into the lane stadium and win that game. So can they beat North Carolina? Yeah, will they? I would say this is a coin flip proposition to me, I think, at best. So I don't think there's really a right answer here. I'm going to say no, just because two out of three when you've lost four out of your five doesn't seem all that likely, but I think mathematically it's more of a coin flip. Yeah, also the interesting wrinkle about Virginia that we might have said here at some point was that we spent so much time talking about how old all these guys are and then all of the sudden they started getting hurt and we were like, oh no, that's right. Old folks home. Old folks home. This is welcome to park view here in Charlottesville, Virginia, you know, we've got a lovely view of the park wheeling your offensive line out for their daily for the bingo game. Yeah, we start calling Tony Elliott, oh, 63. What happening is North Carolina? I don't know. The Louisville, Virginia NC state finish right here. Given the quality of the Tar Heels, I do think they're going to win one of them, but I think that Louisville and Virginia, and I think Louisville, Virginia is probably once tied to the other, right? Especially if they were to beat Louisville, I don't know if I trust them on the road, but I, but maybe they would be able to bounce back even in the event of a loss. We will see. 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