WEEK 0 BIG GAME BREAKDOWN: Biggest Storylines + Keys To Win For UNC-TCU, NC State-Virginia & MORE!
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The Cover Three Podcast kicks off a new season of Big Game Breakdowns, moving to Tuesday at 11 a.m. Eastern to give fans more time to prepare. A major debate is unfolding over conference eligibility rules—specifically the Big Ten’s proposed ban on players returning to college after NFL draft declarations, which the SEC is monitoring but not acting on. Legal experts suggest the rule’s inconsistent past application undermines its fairness, especially for the Class of 2022, and that conference bylaws may have more power than the NCAA in enforcing eligibility. The discussion highlights broader issues in college sports, such as the exploitation of player mobility and the lack of transparency in NCAA rules. The podcast then dives into key early-season matchups: North Carolina vs. TCU in Ireland, where TCU’s new, run-heavy offense and North Carolina’s defensive struggles are expected to shape the game; Virginia vs. NC State, where Virginia’s rebuilding offense and defensive upgrades are closely watched; and Memphis vs. UNLV, a pivotal game with major playoff implications for the Mountain West and American conferences. USC’s debut of true freshmen and depth are also spotlighted, though the game may serve more as a developmental showcase than a decisive contest. Overall, the episode emphasizes how early-season games provide valuable insight into team dynamics, coaching changes, and evolving strategies—especially in a season defined by uncertainty and realignment.
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They get ready for a season where we're gonna be here, right here, every single Tuesday, 11 a.m. Eastern time with the big game breakdown inside the matchups, the storylines, players to watch and more, heading into the weekend. This is traditionally our Wednesday show. We're moving it to Tuesday, even more time for you to get yourself ready. In advance of our locks on Thursday. So we'll be heading basically a word or two, I guess, on every single game, but inside the matchups are the ones that interest us the most. Before we get to that big game breakdown, we do continue to have movement on the eligibility beat, I guess we can call it now. It's just here on this Tuesday morning. We've got reportedly big 10 set to pass a rule that would limit players from returning to college football if they have declared for the NFL draft and not withdrawn. That would be what we've seen Jack Piber and Dick On Bright, like these players that continue to go from NFL preseason, NFL training camps, potentially trying to seek an opportunity in college football. Big 10, potential is reportedly set to pass a rule that does not allow for this loophole, which as we have discussed extensively, which mostly applies to just the class of 2022, they are set to close that loophole. SEC with a strongly worded statement on Monday night, no action as of now as we're recording at 11.04 AM, Eastern time, tailgate was, tailgate's kind of been telling us to keep this a little tight. So don't worry tailgate, I'm gonna set a timer on this one, billable hours, but as you're starting to see some of these developments across your waiver wire of sorts, how do you think that the next couple days or so as we count down to the season are gonna be navigated both in the conference boardrooms and also in the courts? - You know, I don't actually know if this rule that the big 10 is apparently gonna pass and that the SEC is sort of, I guess, threatening to pass, but not actually saying they're gonna pass. I'm not really sure if that's gonna hold up. We have seen courts in the past with some of these eligibility rulings say, hey, also you can't punish a school for taking this guy or for playing this guy, right? And where the NCAA got clipped on some of this stuff was the inconsistent application of the rule, which again, I think they inconsistently applied it on purpose to be able to get a lot of stuff to just point and scream about if their bill had gotten through the Senate was going to the house and what it would have appeared for Congress, right? But we don't know if that's gonna be able to reach down and apply to the conference level. So that there actually is some true uncertainty here. I think if you're one of the plaintiffs, you can clearly say, hey, like this TRO should also apply, you know, to the conferences, which would allow these guys to play. I also think Danny absolutely nailed this yesterday and it probably should be co-counsel on this with me. You know, in saying like, this is clearly a one-time issue, right? This entire suit is based on the inconsistent application of the five or five rule, you know, not including the class of 2022. They could have applied it way earlier, which would have included the class of 2022. They could have applied it way later, like maybe at the start, you know, of this season, but they didn't, right? They didn't mid-summer, I think, to try to clip the class of 2022. You can argue if that was for like one of you have ammo for Congress to say how out of control the sport is or if it was like a cost-controlling measure for them. I think both, you know, are potentially valid. But this is not something that I anticipate we're gonna have to keep talking about, you know, for years on end, because five or five is already a rule. The application of five or five will be consistent going forward because it applies to, you know, all future classes as well. So I sort of think this is much to do about nothing, and there aren't a ton of like real superstars involved in this. We've also seen, if you wanna talk about inconsistent application of rulings, there are guys in other sports who have literally played professionally overseas, right? Like, there are women's basketball players, I was talking to a women's basketball GM the other day, and he's like, well, we gotta buy her out of her contract in Brazil first in order to get her to come over here, right? Like so, do you think that the plaintiffs will be able to argue the inconsistent application of this rule within a conference, right? 'Cause that's a big 10 school, by the way, that is already buying out a player from a pro contract in South America to get her to come over, you know, to play women's college basketball. So I don't know what's gonna happen. I think it's an interesting thing to watch here, right? To see if these conferences will be able to apply this, and I'm kinda rambling here, I'm sorry. - Well, you can't just end abruptly. Yeah, you gotta land up. - I don't know what you're saying. - You gotta land up one for some tact to be able to signal, great question coming from Ryan in the tailgate said, can someone explain to me why conference bylaws greater than NCAA bylaws? My initial reaction there goes back to the Brendan Soresby story from earlier this summer. NCAA couldn't do anything. Texas Tech was ready to go, and who was the person, not the person, what was the entity that stepped in the way it was the big 12? My thought at that time is the conferences control the purse strings. The conferences are the ones that handle these massive payouts to the individual schools, and the threaten of any kind of sanction or any kind of punitive action towards the school. And but good point, some of these different orders do seem to prohibit that. I wonder if suing a conference is a much more difficult action legally than trying to take on the NCAA in its amorphous state as it is? - I think it certainly could be, which is why this bear is watching. I really just want this story to go away either way. We're on big game breakdown week. These are valuable players. Most of them are not superstars, given that all the superstars got drafted and drafted fairly high. Some of these guys could have a real impact on a team. The D-Liaman going to LSU if he's healthy and if he's in shape, that would allow them to, maybe not have to speed run the timeline on some of these five-star defensive linemen they signed. Maybe it allows them to play Anderson 250 snaps and not 500 snaps, maybe it allows them to develop on his own timeline a little bit better. But I don't think these guys are mega stars in most cases. - I'm just happy we can explain to Ryan, the Notre Dame fan, how conferences work. - Oh, boom. Let's go. You see, they agree to be in it and work together and they could kick you out of it. That's how it works. - DK, do you think LSU takes on the Texas Tech role? You think they're gonna go, okay, so you think they're, they're one of the extra. - I thought it was cute. How Texas Tech thought for a minute with the Brendan Soresby stuff, they were gonna be the most hated teams in college football. I think they still kind of view themselves as that, but they are clearly not. This is all LSU is the bulls-eye on their back as the most hated team in college football. - And didn't Cody Campbell say something along the lines of like if LSU was doing this, nobody would care. - No, everybody cares. We care more. - But that's my point. Like that's what Texas Tech was saying. Like if LSU was doing this, nobody would care. It's just because it's us. - What an unintentional self-own. You're right, because it is Texas Tech, we give up more. We care less because it's Texas Tech. We care more because it's LSU. It's LSU's brand value greater than Texas Tech. - I thought it was interesting in the coverage yesterday. It was like groundbreaking history on sports center. It was like Dayquan, right, becomes the first player in history to go from the end of, these not the first one. Like Cole Hudson, now maybe it was the first one with a contract that was signed. Like Cole Hudson, who's on Texas right now, was in camp with the Cowboys. Now I don't know what kind of, 'cause some camps they'll invite you, like Diego Pavia was with Ravens. It was like an invite, so you don't get that much money. Not technically under contract. But that is where I do look at some of these guys that are gonna be allowed and some of them that aren't. And kind of, I do feel like it's not very fair. But like at the expense of college football, I'm like who cares? Like I just want, I don't like the optics of it. But I do understand the players that are kind of like, hey, wait a second, why were all these other guys who were my class that just weren't good enough to sign a contract, but they were good enough to be invited to camp and have some of these other issues. Why are they allowed to go? And the biggest point is that the NCAA did screw this up. Like maybe I wouldn't have done this if I would have known this was an option and we could have avoided this whole mess. - We've got Lane Kiffin's sound, I believe. Let's hear that right now. - I think that situations are different. So, in general, should NFL players think of it?
come back to college, I believe that answer would be no. I think every circumstance should be looked at differently. This is a very unique circumstance. The judge found that these players should have been told and should have known that they were going to be eligible for a fifth year, which every player moving forward, every athlete moving forward in all sports has. And so they should have known that in December when they were making decisions had they known that they would have stayed. At the end of the day, you know, because of these rulings, they're either going to play for you or they're going to play somewhere else around the country. So we've made a decision to recruit them like probably most people are. And this is where I don't blame Lane Kiffin. Let's hoover up all the distressed assets. We got all these players with NFL bodies and college experience and they might be on the market. We're going to buy up all their rights. So if they do a, you know what, but it is kind of like an overseas player, right? We're going to draft the guy from France. He might not come to the NBA this season. I'd not come to the NBA till next season. But we're going to own his rights. So that's what LSU is doing. And I think that him laying it out there, I can't argue with it. It exposes some of the more cynical views of college sports and college football, but I get Lane Kiffin and LSU's position given the current rules and the way that these things are going. Yeah, I mean, he laid it out like just like we talked about about a month ago now. If these guys had not been wrongfully told that they wouldn't have the year of eligibility because of the ankets of some application of rule, they would have had the option to not go to the NFL. They exercised the only option that they were that they had, you know, given what was told to them incorrectly by the NCAA. I think it's weird that we have these guys that were in pre-season training camps. I don't think we're going to keep talking about this throughout the season, right? Like it's like, okay, cool. These guys weren't going to have to make an NFL team. Thus they probably should have used that fifth year, which they were told they didn't have. They're using it. Yep, but just imagine if the quanwright catches the game when he touched down in the title game. Oh my god. I look Ole Miss fans are yeah. And it wasn't Xavier and Harris, the one that was Trash and Lane Kiffin after the college football playoff. Now something happened and he's forgiven him. I can't put my finger on what changed me. We are a podcast of forgiveness, you know, we I got to support that one through and through. Okay. Timers going off. We hear you coming up on the other side. Before we get into big game breakdown, some quick around the country. Some more starting quarterback announcements, including the we told you to watch out for a name like place. And more next. 12 teams already in game week preparation, but for the rest of college football, fall camp is winding down, which means it's only a little bit more time left to players that are making up us camp camp us camp camp us camp camp us. Something that players that are buzzing. Blaze burlowitz starting quarterback at Vanderbilt. Now they're playing Austin P. Maybe the door is not shut. Tom Ferdell, you think the door shut for five star fresh from Jared Curtis? No, the door is never shut for the five star freshman back up. Doesn't mean I guarantee he's going to play, but I think you know, as we discussed yesterday, like Blaze from the reports was the better QB early in camp and was the more consistent quarterback throughout most of camp. And it was Curtis coming on the last few weeks that was pushing him for it. So I think at a minimum, this is Blaze being rewarded for being the better quarterback throughout all of camp by getting to be the starter to begin the season at a minimum. At a maximum, it could just be like, hey, this Blaze kid's pretty damn good. It does, it is interesting though, because like when are they going to be able to work Curtis in, right? This early schedule is cake. So the chance that Blaze looks bad or, you know, lacking enough to where you feel like you have to go to Curtis in those first two games is fairly low, right? And maybe that just means he looks great or maybe it means like, we don't feel like we need Curtis's playmaking ability because we really like our defense and we obviously we have a back really like and we have some good receivers. Maybe they don't need the like the potential, you know, upside and also like don't want to embrace the volatility that comes with starting a freshman as far as the downside risk there. You know, but if he does start to falter an SC play, you know, how much are you going to play Curtis in some of these early games to get him some reps? You know, if this was truly a battle, I do think you probably need to play him some in these these early games and get him some series, just to see how he looks in live action. I think we get so spoiled like expecting five star freshmen just to be ready to go, you know, no matter who it is. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, you know, Michigan was able to take some bumps and lumps along the way as Bryce Underwood kind of figured out what it was like playing in college. And I would say that was a much better roster surrounded by him, you know, I think you've got to be, you just got it's a really big decision. Obviously for Jared Curtis, for Vanderbilt, for his future, you know, at the school, you kind of you want to make sure this is the right one. And so I don't think it's the end of the world. I kind of this is what I've grown to be used to. I think it takes a really, really special individual to come in and understand what it takes to be a college quarterback and all the ancillary stuff that comes along with it, like what time you have to be in the building, speaking up and taking that leadership role. I mean, we've talked about it a couple of times. The mom Williams who wasn't even a true freshman, look at the growth and development that he had in one year, just talking to media and how much more comfortably felt as a leader and you just felt better about him. I think Jared Curtis will be fine, but I do think you'll see them both play in those first couple games. So I don't think this is burlowitz is the quarterback and it's done. I still think this is very much a fluid situation. For some context, bud mentioning the cake schedule. It is Austin P to start followed by Delaware. Then NC State at Auburn at Georgia Ole Miss. So I would call Wolf Pat cake. No, but the first two are right. First two 100% and then like into state and Auburn are determinative games on this schedule as to well as to whether Vanderrope makes a bowl. Correct. Like you you have to get at least one of those if you want to go bowling in my opinion, unless you think you're going to pull like a really big upset. Always watch out for a quarterback named Blaze. Always watch out for Aden Charles. You never know where that ball is going to go, but hopefully it's in the hands of a Northwestern wide receiver. Aden Charles named the starter for the Wildcats. Tom, I know that is one of your favorite programs of all the 138 FPS programs. Was there ever any real doubt here? Was this one more formality for new offensive coordinator Chip Kelly? I don't know if it was a formality, but I feel like guessing based on you, they brought in two transfers. They brought in Charles and they brought in Marquil from West Virginia. I'm guessing one got more money than the other. Although I don't again, man. I don't think either was like breaking the bank, but I do think that comparatively, one's probably getting paid more and one was the first choice since he was the first one to show up. But yeah, I think you look at Charles' experience in the Big Ten and I think he was the clear cut leader and I'm not surprised that he's won the job nor did anybody beat, but he's going to have to tighten some things up and we'll see if Chip Kelly can get that out of him. In how many cases so far has the has the quarterback that the team brought in to be the obvious starter in the portal not become the starter? Like just Jackson Arnold? No, that is not. That is not going to be declared one way or the other. It's going to look like 1993 college football out there with UNLV. We're just going to play two quarterbacks. Yeah. Well, to me, that's not winning the job. Correct. Sure. We'll get to that one in just like you know, if I low one at Florida. Right. Not that. So oh, how about this one? I do think KJJ Arkansas is on the screen right now. KJ Jackson beating out the Memphis transfer for the Memphis head coach. I don't know what, AJ, I don't know what AJ Hill, what is NIL situation is. I don't know what KJJaxons NIL situation. I don't know what Arkansas's NIL situation is. Haven't seen the books. No one's tipped me off of that, but maybe you could say that one's a little bit of an upset just because of the previous relationship. Yeah, it would not be Austin Mac, but I mean, I know that wasn't this year, but he did follow Katelyn DeBoer from Washington to Alabama. I mean, I don't know what Russell's NIL, Russell might be making more. I would say he does too. I mean, Mac is probably one of the higher paid non like five star freshmen backup, so I would guess. Because like they had to give him something to keep him around. Man, that's the key is you need to get on that Lincoln Keenholtz plan where everyone talks about how awesome you were pushing a starting quarterback for the job and then you make all your NIL money the next stop season, right? I mean, this is where you're able to come back. Are you kidding me? like I was really pushing for the job there.
the Kenny Minchi model. You know, I think Kenny Minchi is a good player, but just more examples of that. Are there any others on your own's radar? I was doing my scans last night, trying to in preparation for the rundown. I can't think we're gonna talk about UNO being a little bit, which is kind of its own unique. Memphis has an ongoing quarterback battle, but I think Charles Huff is just playing why it 'cause he can. - We think that's Stokes, right? - Over-air and old. - I only speak we, I would bet that that would be Stokes and not Aaron Olin. - Because of Aaron Olin's Stokes or something you know about Huff or Memphis. - Both because of Stokes and Nolan. Like I have not seen anything from Nolan that makes me think I can trust him. And Stokes has at least been productive. I know it was at West Florida, but like that's a pretty decent team at UWF. - Hey, he says he's trying to add chambles with a different story. - Yeah, very different story. We'll see if he gives the latest D2 star to come up. Any other camp buzz, injuries, quarterback announcements that we should have on our radar before we hit a break and dive into big game breakdown? - Did we hit the Kansas State offensive line injuries yesterday? - No, let's go. - They got some like, and they got hammered against in like the game of the year markets to it. They like one of their tackles I think is out for the year. Another one is not gonna be able to come back from injury and I think I read they also have like an important interior offensive lineman out for like multiple weeks. So that's like, I think you could read that as three sharders down. - Yeah, it's not great for my win total. - Yeah, I think the odds that they win all these coin flips now if that ends up playing out badly is poor. - Yeah, though, if a Kansas State concern was, do I like the schedule more than I like the roster? And now the roster has been downgraded that's now you're just really relying on schedule. And in the big 12, who knows, right? I mean, that's a coin flip city through and through. Well, coming up on the other side, hey, we're turning our attention to the actual games on the field. We'll take you inside some of the biggest matchups, headline storylines and the players to watch and more. - Nukest. - Back here on the Cover 3 podcast, one of our favorite things to do during the college football season, we do it every single week and we'll continue to do it. And it brings me great joy. We take all the games for the week. We highlight a couple of them. We go inside the matchup. We call it big game breakdown. (upbeat music) - All right, we'll start with the very first game of the college football season. Not played on American soil. We'll be out in Dublin for the Arlingas Classic, which this year features North Carolina and TCU, the back end of a home and kind of home. Not home. Remember that TCU went and scored a billion points on North Carolina in the season opener last season. Now Bill Belichick and the Tar Heels try to get some revenge, but they're doing it with 70 new players. That is 40 true freshmen, 30 additions from the transfer portal. Still, there are some pieces of last year's team that could be out there looking for revenge. You'd think about a Jordan ship, a Benjamin Hall, Millcarta Bougieau Day. Like there's a good core that the North Carolina players have been saying has been leading a more unified locker room. We'll see. They're gonna be tested by the adversity that's gonna come in the form of those TCU horn frogs now under Jane Craig as they're starting quarterback. Danny, as you're starting to break this match up down, what are going to be some of the things that you're looking for as we get our first look at new starting quarterbacks for two different teams, Billy Edwards Jr., as we mentioned earlier, and sort of some other twists and turns, new offensive coordinators for both different teams. Seems like they might not be a lot we can take from last year, but I could be wrong. No, I agree with you. I'm excited to see, I mean, we know a little bit about Billy Edwards. We talked about that the other day, but for Jaden Craig, I think the potential is off the charts. Gordon Samus takes off the offensive coordinator. Here, maybe a little bit more pro style, a little bit more run-based attack for TCU. After they were slinging around the yard a little bit, typically with Sonny Dykes. He's been more pass heavy. But what's crazy about this is the one area that I thought UNC would have success was Bill Belichick, defensive mastermind throughout his entire life in the NFL. Boy, is he going to confuse opposing quarterbacks in college? And like, if we hadn't seen last year, I'd be a little bit worried about Jaden Craig in this TCU offense, but we saw last year what happened and how much to North Carolina was not. That wasn't the case. And last year they got carved up by this offense, great at different players, different system. But I'm excited to see what Jaden Craig can do. And on the flip side, Bobby Patrino, the higher kind of flying under the radar a little bit on the national stage, but he has figured out how to maximize his QBs wherever he's been. So I'm really curious to see how both offenses go out there and what type of system do they run? What does it look like? TCU's got some issues on the defensive side now of the ball because they had a player kicked off the team and the secondary was supposed to be pretty good for beating the crap out of another kid in the locker room. Like that's a story all in itself. But I'm really excited to watch both these kind of, there's a lot of teams that have answers at quarterback and we know what we're going to get. This is one of those rare circumstances where we don't. Yeah, I'm pretty excited to watch this because I do think that like Carolina, I think their defense could be pretty good again. Like they got a lot better over the course of the season last year. Some of those defensive linemen, I know they really like a lot. And I think like that should play in week one in Ireland, which I saw on Twitter that we might have like British open conditions there in Ireland. So maybe not super conducive, you know, to passing. I'm really excited about the Patrino higher, but at the same time, I have a hard time thinking this offense is set up to chuck the ball all over the field. You know, when I see Billy Edwards, I see like, okay, veteran guy can get us in and out of the right place. What, you know, Patrino's help on the headset. Big offensive line. Like big, they're probably going to try to match people, I would think, and I would expect relatively slow tempo from Carolina. I very much doubt that that that that's going to be an up tempo team, which is something to watch throughout the season. By the way, I know there are a lot of coaching staffs out there who notice that Indiana, you know, very rarely broke the huddle before the headset actually shut off, which, you know, kind of limited people's ability to talk with the defense, you know, which is fully legal and pretty smart. Like if you're going to go slow, go real slow, right? So I think you'll probably see Carolina try to match the ball against TCU, take their selective shots over the top. With the safety, obviously getting kicked off the team, who was a really good player, you know, does TCU play even more conservatively on defense try to, you know, be a little more light box because Patrino is really good at manipulating safeties. And so my guess is maybe a little more conservative on the back end from TCU, just try to make sure you don't get hit over the top and see if this Carolina offense can be functional and go on, you know, 8, 10, 12 play drives. And I would expect TCU to operate at a slower pace as well this year. If you look at what the new QBO C combo did, they were not like a Kindle Briles tempo team. And I would expect a, maybe a little more running, a little more heavy, you know, heavy set, just based on, you know, talking to Jeremy Clark in our summer school episode, that that's kind of my read on it. So I, maybe a little slower, I mean, kind of ease into the season. I'm not sure this one starts with the bang. Yeah, I'm very much expecting the tempo to slow up on the TCU offense, at least to what people probably think of when they think of TCU and what they've been the last years. Or you just think of like a Sunday's team in general, like that kind of air raid approach. It's going to be very different because you know, we mentioned Gordon Samus is coming in from Yukon, Jaden Craig coming in from Harvard. You remember last year, Joe Fignano at Yukon was very much efficient. Take care of the football kind of quarterback. More than he was a dropback and chuck it all over the field kind of guy. And Sonny even mentioned that with like the Joshua River transfer about Indiana, that that was the context that brought up those comments about Joshua and his turnovers last year was just that's why he brought in Samus, like that part was left out of the clip for some reason. I can't remember why, but I think you're definitely going to see changes to TCU's offense because of that. I think you're going to see them leaning more on their run game. And that's going to be interesting because like that North Carolina defense last year, like it wasn't outstanding to like Danny's point. We thought it was going to be a lot better than it was. I think that was more about their personnel than the coaching though. And because I think if you look at them last year, they were middle of the road in like a lot of statistics, but where they were really strong, they did a great job limiting big plays, which is huge in this modern era of college football since big plays are really where so much of the scoring comes from. And like they did a decent job of creating havoc without generating a ton of pressure, which is but touched on. They're pretty high on their defensive line with the guys that they have there. This year compared to what they have last year. So if they're able to do a better job of generating pressure up front, compared to what they were able to do last year, that defense could take a step forward. So that's something that I'm going to be looking at in this game. I want to see what that unit looks like up front. And then on the other side, I do think that North Carolina's run game will be a lot better. Because with Bobby Patrino, kind of like the way we look at sunny dikes, and we we assume his offense is going to look like Bobby.
Trino always has good rushing offenses. I feel like that's the basic foundation of everything Bobby Patrino has always done. So you go with Edwards at QB, he's not tailing green, but he's a similar style of play if he's not a similar profile of athlete. So you're probably gonna see that. And I think they will move a little quicker, but it's hard for them to be worse in the rushing game because they were 102nd in EPA per rush. They were 118th and success rate. They were 114th and explosive rate. I would anticipate you're gonna see those numbers improve. And even if they just go from putrid to like below average, that's a huge step forward for this team on that side of the ball. So there's a lot to watch in this one. There's a lot we're gonna learn about both of these teams. There's a lot of new players. So it's really hard to have any kind of definitive idea of what's gonna happen, but I think those are the areas that you should probably be looking at. You should probably expect that. That's where we're gonna learn the most about both of these teams. And it's a non-conference game. So you wanna win it, but if you lose it, it's not a death knell for your season clearly. So it's gonna be an interesting matchup. And I think it's gonna give us a decent idea of what both of these teams are on the season. Like if North Carolina looks like crap in this game, that'd be a very big red flag for me about North Carolina this season. Benjamin Hall, guy, I would keep an eye on. 235, if this does need to be a little bit of a slug fest, and you just need to throw your big, thick physical running back. Demon, June is the other running back there. I think they're both gonna get a lot of work throughout the season, 'cause I agree. There's gonna be more there. Lee Roy Jackson, Isaiah Johnson joined Melcart up there on that defensive line. Players that were good last year. And I think you're expected to be good for them. But guys, this is a young, I cannot say this enough. This is a young, young, young team. These are a lot of new pieces. If the communication ain't tight, especially with your defensive coordinator Steve Bellichek, still on medical leave. He hasn't been with the team for weeks, you know? Like this is, you've got a lot that needs to be like dialed in. And so whether it's the leadership on the team, or whether it's the leadership and the coaching staff, the rest of that coaching staff room are bill himself, you know? North Carolina's got a lot of questions that they need to answer. But I do agree with Bobby Petrino and Billy Edwards, an offensive line that Dagom looks good on paper with their heights and weights. I think they'll be able to run the football. I am expecting a little bit of a lower scoring game. And for TCU, like TCU settled into a pretty comfortable spot, or what, a top 40 team, top 30 team. And then like they, good enough to jump up a nab a ranked team, but you're just not quite picking them with this kind of roster to win the big 12. I mean, bud, when you got your 40 to one, that was a lot of that was scheduled, right? Yeah, exactly right. When TCU gets the right schedule, they can parlay it into a huge year. It'll be in a good test for both of those squads, getting things started out in Dublin. Anything else there? How many points do you think TCU feels it needs to win this game? 24. I'll say 21. Yeah, I'm, I, so go ahead. I might try to score more. I mean, yeah, no, but I'm saying like defensively last year, like we, we, they didn't get any pressure on opposing quarterbacks last year. And we mentioned that they're down a safety from, you know, the, the, the, the locker room fun, but like they were terrible against the pass. And a lot of that was the fact that they had no pass rush. So, I mean, maybe match up wise North Carolina, 'cause I'm not, we talked about it. I'm not expecting Billy Edwards to be dropping back and chucking balls all over the field, but just I, I don't feel like if I'm TCU, I'm confident enough in this defense to think 24 points will be enough. That's fair. I mean, they were 89 to have a great creative last year. - Yeah, which is not great. - But, but I was mentioning this. My theory is that the test for North Carolina will be Red Zone execution. I think with Bobby Patrino, Billy Edwards, and what they have, they're gonna be able to move the ball just fine. But when the field gets tiny, if they have to settle for field goals, you might only need 24 or 28 points to win this game. Somebody threw out a 24/16, which of course would be three field goals on a touchdown for the tar heels. I could see that, you know, where you're sitting there and you're like, we moved the ball. We looked competitive and we didn't cover that those sorts of frustrations. I would not bet, well, I mean, the locks are coming tomorrow, but this is a North Carolina offense that could look a lot better and still not be, you know, converting on the kind of results you're expecting. Then from Dublin to Brent, no Charlottesville, Charlottesville. We're in Charlottesville. We're not in Brazil. We are in Charlottesville. But we got Shaq, you all see that? DJ Shaq diesels doing the pregame concert in Charlottesville. - Is he really? - Yeah. - Guys. - Yeah. - Was he doing Brazil? - What, no. I don't think you get the way that it was passed along was, you wouldn't have gotten Shaq if this thing was in Brazil, but you at least, you've got a big atmosphere around there. Yes, Tom. - What's the connection there? - Oh, he is just, he's a DJ. - He's a DJ. - Yeah. Can I cover three? Could have him come do a cover three tailgate? - I think he did one. I think he did gain, like, I think he did a UCF. Apparently, he's done them all over. His videos go viral because you see a seven footer in the middle of the mosh pit. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just getting into it. - Are you guys old enough to remember when Shaq was a rapper? - Oh, yes. - Fush Nickens. - Yeah. - Let's go. - Danny has all their albums. - Funny thing about Virginia, the reigning ACC runner up, which finds themselves as a five and a half, nearly a touchdown favorite on their home field, they've got seemingly a ton of career snaps and a ton of like, Tony Elliott's out here talking about the depth, but we have rebuilt a lot of the players and the positions that helped them win double-digit games and get to the ACC championship last year. But Pobula comes to take over as quarterback, but we got new guys catching it, new guys running it. On the other side, familiar faces in the form of CJ Bailey, Duke Scott, you know, Will Wilson. Don't forget that Will Wilson package for NC State in the short yardage situations. Tom, what's, I know the ACC's your favorite conference. What's got your attention here? No, actually, these are your hooves. You're invested in this one. - Yeah, thank you. I feel like Virginia is completely forgotten after what they did last year. They won 11 games. I feel like you could argue that they overperformed. Like, record-wise, they weren't as good as their record indicated, but you look under the hood and what this team could be in 2026. Like, defensively, this team was pretty damn good last year. Like, John Ranziski's defense was excellent and they've got damn near everybody from that unit coming back. I think in Connellese returning production rankings, they were 20th on defense, something like that. So that's something to look at for a unit that was very excellent for them last year. I also, I do think part of it was a schedule that they played for their defensive numbers overall, but still, even if it gets a little worse, you can afford to. So that will be important in this one. The bigger concern for me, though, is like, when you watched Virginia last year, even while they were playing well, I did not think their offensive line was very good. I thought that Chandler Morris kind of, you know, was able to run around like a chicken with his head cut off quite a bit and do well enough in a lot of situations that covered up for it. So that is a problem, but then like, they also lost all three of their leading rushers from last year. You know, and Chandler Morris is one of them. So I do have some questions about how the run game is going to look. Peyton Lewis comes in from Tennessee. He played for the Vols. He wasn't like a feature back form, but he has gotten snaps the last year. So he's stepping into the primary role. Bo Pribula won the starting gig. Like, clearly, I think all four of us would say we trust him more with his legs than we do with his arm so far to this point in his career. And I think that like, there's a lot of, a lot of Bo Pribula downerism based on last year at Mazoo because he struggled against the better teams, but he was also injured quite a bit last year. So he was never really at full health. I don't know how much we should be putting into that. Like, yeah, you look at the way that that season breaks down if you're watching right now in the graphic. Like the second half of that season is last four games. He was not at 100%. So I don't know how much stock we should put in that, but the schedule also got more difficult. So that's going to be like, because overall, their offense last year, there were no explosive plays. Like, at least they were very, very limited. Can they find them this year? Because defensively again, I don't think they're gonna be as good as they were last year. So the offense is gonna have to pick up some of that slack. So this is a very interesting case for me for Virginia going in because I do think that as we've discussed ad nauseam, or at least as I've made fun of. Like, once you get past Miami in this league, there is still a whole hell of a lot of wiggle room to climb up to be that number two team being that contention for an ACC championship came kind of birth, which is where Virginia found itself last year. And I think that there's a decent chance they could do it again this year. But I feel like nobody really talks about them as a team capable of doing it. - Yeah, completely agree. I think you're gonna see like a lot more QB run game with bow in there. In C state last year, just allowed like so many explosive plays, which I think is partly player base, but like you also just might have like better scheme and continuity this year just to allow a few, you know, a few less of those explosives. - Oh, buddy, we're talking communication in West Raleigh right now. We're talking a lot about communication 'cause we got same faces and they are promoting growth in terms of limiting those explosives. - Yeah, for sure. I do think like NC State is a pretty good linebacker room, but by C standards, and that should help you.
you somewhat against Bo, if the defensive line can hold up against a UV offensive line, which was, you know, they're veteran. To Tom's point, they weren't that great last year, but maybe they'll be better with another year of growth. I think they should be okay. And on the flip side, like, Bailey kind of needs to carry this team now. Like they did lose pieces around him, you know, for the second year in a row. So like if he's going to be the guy that some people think he is, and I do think he's flashed it. I don't know if he's always consistently shown it. Like he's going to need to really like become like the dude here in ACC play. I mean, 25 to 6 last year is a pretty nice ratio. I'm excited to watch, like to see like, okay, what does UVA's passing game actually look like with Bo in there? Because I do think he's a step down, just based on what I've seen in throwing the ball from Morse. But like they could be a better offensive if he's just like, you know, the stone cold nuts running the ball with his legs. I also think Bo, I mean, again, I've said it a lot, like you kind of find your level, you know, and maybe the ACC is where Bo, probably could could actually thrive of his nine or seven, six of them came, I think against Alabama, Oklahoma, and there was one other one in there that was also another good opponent, like in the SEC, I mean, there were times when he threw the ball pretty well. Again, some of the lesser competition. If they do give him better protection, better time, they're not the same caliber of defenses. Maybe he is that guy that can take him. I think this game is massive within the ACC for that race to be who plays against Miami most likely. Because when you look at both of their schedules, the winner of this game, you start looking at them. There's not a lot of games. You can't picture them winning, right? And how they granted they both could end up being eight and four and kind of pedestrian or good, but not ACC championship worthy. But I think this really is one of those ones that will position both of these teams, the winner of this game in a really strong position. So I've been very high on CJ Bailey. I'm kind of curious to see if he can take that next step. Now that Hollywood smothers is gone, you mentioned Scott coming in to fill in from a Hollywood smothers led the ACC in rushing last year. He was a really, really good back. That's a lot of production to lose. Maybe it's more by committee this year, but like you guys were talking about is CJ Bailey, the type of guy that can just put the team on his back. I think he is. I think he's pretty special, but this will be a huge road game for him to start off the season. Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead, Tom. It's not just smothers. He was gone. Like smothers obviously transferred to Texas, jolly graduated Anderson's at USC Rogers is at Alabama. Those are like all their leaders in receiving and rushing from last year. This is like a brand new offense for the most part, except for CJ Bailey. Yeah. Like you hope it's not like a Mike Trout situation where like, all right, cool. You kept the star and then there's not enough around him. I agree that I think this is not like for sure an elimination game in the ACC, but given the potential tiebreakers, which head to head would factor in the, like if you think about like, now we know the the ACC's tiebreakers, like head to head will matter, you know, somewhat. I mean, this is the top three difficulty game for both UVA and NC state and conference play. So the loser of this has a real uphill climb. I think they're going to be there in Charlotte. Great point. Last year's game decided in the 30s came down to an interception in the end zone at the very end of the game, we got over 153 and a half, we got locks coming tomorrow. You think this one will be, we're talking about high scoring, low scoring. I think this one gets a little silly. Yeah. I think we can get a little shoot out. I, I think it could, I mean, bud touched on it. Like last year for a Dave Doran team, that defense was really disappointing. And I, I don't know that they did enough to fix it. Like if you look at the numbers from last year, they were, they had a 4.1% sack rate. That was a 126th of the nation. The explosive rate allowed was 12.61%. That was a hundredth. And you look at the changes like Harvey Dyson is somebody they brought in from Tulane who played. Good player at Tulane for last year who would transfer to them from Texas Tech had a big year in the AAC for Tulane. Can he do it in the AACC after having, you know, like one year, like it's not like he had a three or four year career and he's coming in for his 50 year. Like those guys, I have high much higher confidence rate in as far as their ability to continue producing. And another guy Joseph had a dire who was on the team last year, transferred from Texas Tech where ironically he was a teammate with Harvey Dyson a few years ago. He saw some snaps last year. He's expected to sit into a much bigger role. Can those two provide the past rush that that team desperately lacked last year in a lot of situations? I don't know if that's going to be as important in this match up because as we've discussed, but Pribula, we're not really worried about him dropping back to throw 30 times. But can you at least kind of contain him in the pocket and keep him from breaking free and, you know, just picking up first downs with his legs. So I wouldn't be surprised at all if this one gets a little like NASCAR East sideways. Let's go. We don't need to go all the way in unless you've got the notes for it. But hitting some of the other action from around week zero, Memphis and UNLV, this will be a 10 PM Eastern time kickoff again, our plan for the instant reaction show is around half time of Florida state, New Mexico state. The chance for us to have in the books some thoughts on Mike Norvel's 2026 squad as well as all the action from earlier in the day, which would include USC, Virginia, NC State, TCU and North Carolina. This one will be later. Tom said he, Tom said he was going to go on Instagram live live at 2 a.m. Eastern time to do the full Memphis, UNLV breakdown. Tom, you want to give a, you want to give a, like what, where you have your eyes on for this one. I, I, I, how could you really have any idea what this game is going to look like? Well, Lance Gidry is a defensive coordinator in this game. Yeah. So there are some sets of previous experiences that I'm bringing or nightmares depending on your side of this. Well, I mean, as we discussed earlier in the show, like we were trying to figure out the transfer quarterbacks we haven't won the starting job. This is the one place Bud cited, like Jackson Arnold, we don't know for sure is the starter here. We might have two quarterbacks on the field at the same time. I'm not putting that past Dan Mullen to have orgy and Arnold out there just in a weird T formation kind of situation going on, maybe running some wishbone, who the hell knows what you and LV is going to be throwing out there and for Memphis, you know, complete new coaching staff, completely new roster. I expect it to look like a Charles Huff team, but I just don't know where this roster sits compared to the Memphis teams that we're typically seeing in years past. So for me, as I tune into this game, one of the reasons I'm excited about it is because I'm going to learn a whole hell of a lot about both of these teams, which I think is just kind of the situation that we're dealing with now in these early season games, especially for these G6 teams because we typically don't know, they're typically brand new teams. So I mean, I clearly like the quarterback thing for you, LV, is a huge deal. I will give you a name to watch on Memphis's defense, Jamon Tapp is like one of those guys that went G6 to G6 and like he was like, how the hell did he not get into the power for us? I don't, I haven't been able to really get to the bottom of that. FedEx? Memphis? Memphis money? Possibly. I guess, but like, that's a guy that doesn't belong in G6 anymore. And I think there's a really good chance that he's a major problem for you. Like, they're going to have to scheme around him. If you're watching Memphis, you're like, okay, that's like, that's a guy who would be like a really good power for defensive lineman. And like, there are certainly some other guys in the G6 who will become that, but just basically everybody in the G6 who we know is already that got scooped up and put on a powerful roster. This is different. Like, we already know he's that level of player. He did start in Texas. He was at Arizona State and then he went to Southern Miss. Now, maybe, maybe he's just like, you know what, I've been that P4 out and that they're too much about the glitz and the glamour. I want to go to a G6 team. We're just about ball, baby. Kirkland boy. That's a Kirkland boy. I've seen one. Let's go. Yeah. I also want to see, like, just how good is Marcus Stokes. I mean, he was very productive last year at West Florida. I mean, is this an amazing game? Are we a believer that either of these teams could be a college football playoff team? I would think that we're going to be possibly being there. So I think it's really good. I mean, Memphis could, UNLV certainly could, like, if, if UNLV beats Memphis and beats Cal in week four, then that's a real opportunity. I think it's also a really important positioning game for the American first, the pack 12. You could, you know, let's just say you could make the argument that in week zero, this is the game with the biggest playoff implications of any of that. Unquestionably. Yes. Yeah. I mean, especially if they are both conference title contenders to Buds Point, then one of these teams could be having a resume saying, we've got to win over the Mountain West champion. We've got to win over the American champion, like those, like that, that could be absolutely huge, even if UNLV or Memphis go on to lose a couple games, but win the conference, that could be end up being the head to head to be able to get you that 12 spot in the bracket without a doubt. God, I bleed orange and green and the chat did make a pretty good point. So Dan Mullen making the playoffs before Florida does. That would be, that would be hilarious. I'll throw here in for BGB, a lot of Alex or G Jackson Arnold, Alex or G Jackson Arnold. I think they're going to run the football. Jaden Thomas is a good player at the running back position. That's, that's the motor. We'll figure out who screws up the least from the other quarterbacks is my, my guess there, but something to watch that game is in Las Vegas and Memphis has a really young linebacker.
which Dan Mullin has to be kind of salivating to, to get those, make a read. Yeah. Am I misremembering? Didn't that the beginning of last year? Didn't Mullin say Kalandria and Orgy were both going to play and it was like, oh, they're, and then it ended up being Kalandria. Yeah. Kalandria was clean, clean. It was much better play. Yeah. Hey, son, today I'll take you fishing just way forward. Yeah, right. Ryan asked in the chat, what's that? What's the overrunner on number of quarterbacks who play in this game, said it at three and a half? Are you going over under? I'll go under, but three it sounds right. Yeah, it's a good number. Yeah, I think under and less, maybe Memphis has packages. Oh, yeah. FedEx. FedEx. Look at that. Boom. Also, I do think, like, you know, these defense got better in some, like in some ways as the season went on last year. And I think part of it was like the coordinator changed stuff they had to deal with. Like, having that the same DC now from camp to to the game probably helps. Yep. One top 25 team in action. And they'll be on the, they'll be on the big peacock. USC San Jose stayed on NBC 3 p.m. Eastern time noon local. And the one thing that I'm excited about this one, DK is not trying to guess the margin here, but what we're going to get to see, because we've heard so much about this number one recruiting class and these true freshmen. And when I've got this kind of matchup, I better see a lot of them that the being able to showcase the depth could be something that gives us a great idea, not just who's going to be replacing Jacobi Lane and Mackay lemon, but also really how ready is all that depth. How, what are you looking for from the USC side of things? And if you've got a San Jose state detailed breakdown, I will take it, but I will tell you that my interest is more on Lincoln Riley's crew. And whether they are going to be ready to take the next step, I'll let butter Tom handle the San Jose sites. You know, he's got that deep. It's a breakdown for San Jose on lock. That's right. Absolutely. He's got, he's going to bring it for sure. We don't get to be the number one personality in college football by talking about San Jose state. Let's be clear. That's right. You, I want to see Mark Bowman. We heard a lot about the tight end. And when we ask Jayden Maive about him, he was like, Oh, he's not really a tight end. He's a weapon. You know, he made it clear that he is not just a tight end. He's going to be somebody out there catching passes, Caden Dixon, Wyatt, another true freshman. Curious see what he does. Also, the issues along the offensive line. Like, I don't think it's going to be, you know, a game where you're like, Uh oh, but I'd like to see them with their starting center going down. Like, are they able to run the football? But you would hope for a clean, crisp performance, sort of a stat patting game for your offense, start and control the line of scrimmage from, you know, from the minute it starts. But yeah, like you guys said, I'm curious to see what some of these young, young, you know, talented wide receivers and athletes can do for USC. And also, again, I don't think you'll see a lot, but Gary Patterson is taking over this defense. But I would expect a pretty vanilla game plan from them defensively. Yeah, I, there's, I don't know if we're going to learn a ton about USC in this game as much as you're going to see guys getting reps and getting, you know, their, their cardio in and getting their conditioning in. But I will be, when you touch it on a Danny, because I do have concerns about their offensive line. So seeing that unit, I, I hope it performs well against the likes of E2 Fina, Solomon Langeye, Noah C. I'll see Isaac Muhaka, Ethan Powell, you know, those, those guys on the San Jose State defensive line. The hell yeah number one, baby. Yeah, you know, it's so funny because my notes say San Jose State defensive line is a weakness and that they're linebackers are the strength and that it that, if anything, the shifts they've got, because I think that some of what I was reading is that USC's going to do a little bit of like kick your guard inside, move some pieces around. It'll be more of a shuffling to replace O'Connor, then really a true backup center steps into the starters role. So I'd like to see if I'm USC fan. I want to see them move that San Jose State defensive line around. Let, um, let Wayman James and King Miller just get out there and just run right through them. Yeah, I, I think this is an interesting one to handicap because a lot of it, I think it's going to come down to like, how much does San Jose really try to run their offense and chuck it around? Right? Like, do they want to play a game where USC can drop a 60 burger on that? Like what, what, what's their tempo look like? Or are they going to run some of their stuff and then kind of, you know, shut it down and keep respectable because I, I do have San Jose State's defense graded as, you know, one of the worst in the G6. And I think USC can probably feast on them. Like they got a couple players, but like, I don't know. I'm gonna come to Siri Danielson running in Norton. That's some bulletin board material for you guys. Let's go in there. I don't see Mark Bowman. So like badly like that. Booby Feaster. I mean, like, there's there were a lot of good players that could end up flashing in a big way. Also sophomores, like, Chiquim Grant, right? You know, like, there's some, there is a lot to USC that I think I'll be watching more on the personnel side of things. You know, we've seen a freshman title and do it before. Like, Bowers went for almost a thousand yards. His freshman year at Georgia. Right? Like, if Mark Bowman's like that guy from day one, which I think there's some chance he is, then that really changes the complexion of this offense. Speaking of personnel, I don't know anybody on the Florida State Dept chart because there ain't no dagum depth, depth chart. What are we going to expect from the Knowles? But I think it might be cathartic if they drop a big number here. You know, I think so too. I think there might be some motivation to put up one of them, one of them big numbers usually reserved for, for Bethune or what your FCS opponent at the season. Yeah. So I, obviously like you'll, you'll feed Duce. You'll, you'll, you'll see if you can get McCoy Dansey, you know, open deep for one. He should probably run by a New Mexico state secondary. We will see how this new offensive line looks. I do have continuing concerns there that maybe they didn't hit on all their portal targets. It quite the same high rate that they hit on last year. And that's, I'm not sure they did a bad job, but like, you know, given the money that they had to spend or the lack thereof, and like, they're probably just not as good up front as they were last year. You know, second year under Tony White's defense. So we'll have to see if they play as a team a little bit more. They think they're better at linebacker. You know, I, I don't think that like the loss of Daryl Jackson will really be felt in this game. That's probably something we're going to have to wait and see for, for future games. They're, they're, they're big nose guard who thinks on what the Jets now. And then I think everybody will be watching to see you just how, how good and how explosive Chroma looks. You know, all the reports out of camp have been very glowing on, on Chroma, they're running back. And, and you know, they've had some nice things about Singleton too. So I think there's a chance he's your two as, as, as Wizner, you know, works his way back from injury. And then work in some of the, you know, the younger receivers, right? You know, bogs coming back from energy, from, from injury, and then Lopez has really been showing out in camp, which the guy was, you know, super productive in both, you know, football and basketball in high school. And that's apparently continued in camp. So I guess we'll see if they can put some fireworks up. They better put up some big numbers. I'm just like they need to generate some interest in that SMU game where you can get in the ticket prices are 30 bucks for a prime time matchup on Labor Day Monday. Yeah. And I, I don't even know if it does much for that crowd. If it gets people to change their mind and head up to Tallahassee, but from a sheer confidence standpoint, mean they desperately need a strong performance to get some confidence going into that SMU game. I'm excited to see astronauts see how he operates within the system. You know, Mike Norvell's calling the plays again. It's been probably the toughest off season of his career. It's been the worst offseason. I can remember from vibes in the last 30 years for Florida State. So the only way to get that taste out of your mouth and to silence some of the critics is to get a big win. Again, does this one matter that much? No, as it'll be right back there if they lose to SMU, but from a confidence standpoint, you're selling something all season long that we can prove the critics wrong. We can compete in the ACC. You got to go out there and have a strong and press performance. I mean, yeah, I don't think ticket sales have gone well, Danny. They, they, I mean, you can get for the SMU game section 113, row 19, which is like a very good seat for 51 bucks each. Yeah, like that's that's yeah, that's a problem. Problem like like me getting lost in a San Jose State Dept chart. Wayman Jordan, not Wayman James, shout out to Raymond James, uh, the and then also, uh, Jiquim Grant, not Jiquim Stewart. So Tom just flooded me with San Jose State names. I got lost in the lost. Maybe maybe that's why you're wearing on the top 50. Jiquim Grant was school tech tech. Um, yeah, I mean, just definitely mixed up there. Uh, all right. What about for CBS sports network? A historic college football opportunity. You, you, you, you, you, you and all you out there can tune in to watch the very first FBS game for the championship winning North Dakota State by Zan as they make their transition and get to play at home against another conference title contender Jacksonville State, the game cocks showing up for this one. There is a historic nature to this that's going to be exciting. And but am I smelling a little bit of Jacksonville State has pushed this thing from what like nine down to seven are at this point or you're just chasing the trends, the trends of others. I'm afraid that the value on this
numbers got to be gone. I mean, Chip, this is a rematch of the 2015 FCS National Title Game. Right. So some deep seated hate here that I assume all the players will remember, you know, this is not an easy place to play. I do kind of think like for a Jack State team that I actually like, like, how do they go? How do they handle the dough? Like, that's kind of one of the, you know, unique home fields, I think, in this sport. And it's like, for me, that's going to matter a whole lot. And like, you know, how does NDSU handle the step up in competition? Right? Like, Jack State was pretty good last year. And I think they should be a pretty decent QC team again. So that's kind of one of the things. OK, you got to go on the road. You know that crowd is going to be crazy Jack for North Dakota States first, you know, game in the FBS. Like, how's your pre-snap stuff? Like, how are you operationally? Can you be clean? Because if they can just go and handle the environment, I think they got a, got a pretty good shot in this game. Yeah, I mean, it's going to be insane. I'm really looking forward to watching it. And this is a challenge for the, for the game cocks to go in there to be the team and their very first FBS game in a place that is already wild. But this is a challenge for Caden Creel, Christian Lando, Dylan Gentry, Curtis Perry, Quai Hood. What are you guys going to do when faced with the Fargo dome? You got to show up. Look, listen, this is 2015 revenge. But you know, this is 2018 revenge too. We know Clint Trickett is now the offensive coordinator at Maryland, right? You know, the new offensive coordinator is at Jacksonville State, Taylor Houseright. Taylor Houseright was the offensive coordinator at Montana State for three seasons, including a Montana State season that ended with an FCS national championship game loss to North Dakota State. So we got Jack State Edge too. I mean, we're just, we're ready to go out there and settle some scores. That was against Matt Inz, but whatever, you know, like, that's cool. We're settling scores. Did I read a stat that North Dakota State is going to be favored in every game? And their win total is nine and a half. They are co favorites with New Mexico, I think, to win the conference. Yeah. I believe so. So right right in there, right in the in the wheelhouse elsewhere, more history being made Sacramento State will be getting their first FBS game started at Eastern Michigan. And then Stanford Hawaii, anybody got any Stanford Hawaii breakdown thoughts? Hawaii got bet pretty hard yesterday. So I'm assuming Stanford has some injury stuff there. It's gonna be a, it's gonna be a tough start if they lose to Hawaii. It's gonna be a very tough start for Coach Luck. Yeah. Very very. Not he's not the coach. Chip. Davis Warring on column coach, I'm gonna call him coach if you be one, calls him coach, I'm gonna call him coach. I heard Davis Warren, the starting quarterback for Stanford, call him, you know, coach, Richard coach Luck. So coach is, I mean, to be fair, like, bud, it might not be injury news. It might just be it took a while for the Davis Warren news to trickle out and a bunch of better said, wait, that Davis Warren, all right, I'm gonna go, yeah, I'm gonna go pound some Hawaii. But like Micah Alahado's best pass catcher is still injured, right? If he returned and we'd got wind of it, like that would be something but I could see move it where it's maybe not Stanford injury, maybe it's Hawaii getting healthier because I know that we were dealing with, you know, a little bit of concerns from Hawaii suffering some injuries early in the camp. But Jackson Harris, no, Jackson Harris transferred out. He's an LSU. Yeah. Who's is it? Who's the kid that got hurt? I'll tell you in a second, man. Shit. Look, here we go. All right. See, this is, Jackson Harris's LSU, you got to move them on your spreadsheet, Tom. Come on. All right. Top players. Ashlock. Yeah. Ashlock got hurt, maybe a week in the camp. 100 yards receive in last year, eight touchdowns expected to be a top target. Why isn't he? Why isn't he on your spreadsheet? I don't know. See? There you go. Sit down. You climbed the number one and the sheets, the sheets all of a sudden just. Yeah. Why? That's not even one of the continental United States. All right. That's like, there's a reason I put out that where would I live, map earlier this week. Hawaii was a never. All right. I'm not living on an island in the middle of nowhere. Okay. And any attention to that to all the worse list I've ever seen too. I mean, you're like, you and polar bears would pick those states. There are plenty of warm weather states on my map. There was just two that are very sensitive about their, they have like, really small or big egos, but they have very low self-esteem. Their names are Texas and Florida, who can't understand why people wouldn't want to live in those states. I mean, people who are calling me a live, I've got like South Carolina on there as a place I'd be happy living. I've got Montana that's a place I'd be happy living Idaho, you know, these liberal strongholds. We are going to be back on third, actually, you know what? One last thing on that rankings list, okay? I got accused of riding y'all's coattails and I've got something I want to say. You're damn right. What did you, I've got the number one number 13 and number 24 college football personalities on one podcast? I just need to not crash the shit. I don't owe anything to someone who's not in the tailgate supporting the cover three podcast. I owe everything to the number one, number 13 and number 24 college football personalities in the world. I don't owe anything to BLT stats or anybody else. I just owe it to the cover three tailgate. So of course, I'm not going to let that bother me, I'm just trying to show up for my boys. That's all. We are going to be like, who else would get us in and out of a segment when I have roughly in the point without signaling the chip that I'm done or, you know, like, like with Danny's literally podcasting from a Tesla or like, they're chips, like, like the best glue guy. No, no, no. This is the other piece here. And I didn't really plan to go off on this, but if Ralph Russo's not on the list, I'm not on the list. I know I am one spot behind Ralph Russo on whatever list. If he's 101, I'm 102, listen, there are a lot of arguments I could make with that list about where people are. I would argue against me being at number one, but the fact Ralph Russo isn't on the list is the best thing that that list has going. All right. This is it. We're two naval gays. I didn't want to do any naval gays in here. We're wrapping up. We are back on Thursday with locks. It's what we do best. And you can follow him on Twitter. Tom Fonelli. You can follow him at Danny. Tom Fonelli at 3, follow me @chip_patterson, gentlemen. Thank you very much. Thank you. See y'all. See y'all. This is just the beginning of the story of Hampton's-- [inaudible] --Sew series streaming September 16th on Paramount Plus.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The podcast shifts its Big Game Breakdown show to Tuesday at 11 a.m. Eastern time to allow more time for preparation ahead of the Thursday locks.
A proposed Big Ten rule to block players from returning to college football after declaring for the NFL draft is under discussion, with the SEC expressing caution but no immediate action.
Legal uncertainty remains over whether conference bylaws can override NCAA rules, especially regarding inconsistent application of the "five or five" eligibility rule.
Critics argue that the rule’s inconsistent enforcement—especially for the Class of 2022—creates unfairness, and some cases (like players playing professionally overseas) highlight broader issues in college sports governance.
The podcast highlights a growing trend of conferences (like the Big Ten and SEC) asserting control over player eligibility and roster decisions, raising questions about NCAA oversight.
Key early-season matchups are previewed, including North Carolina vs. TCU in Dublin, Virginia vs. NC State in Charlottesville, and Memphis vs. UNLV.
TCU’s new coaching staff (Jaden Craig, Gordon Samus) signals a shift toward a more run-oriented, conservative offense, while North Carolina’s defense is expected to improve due to better defensive line and pressure.
Virginia’s offense faces challenges with a new QB (Bo Pribula) and loss of key running backs, while the defense shows promise with new additions like Harvey Dyson and Joseph.
Memphis and UNLV are seen as potential playoff contenders, with the game having significant implications for conference standings and playoff seeding.
USC’s depth and true freshmen (like Mark Bowman, Caden Dixon) are highlighted as key players to watch, though the game may focus more on development than decisive outcomes.
Summary:
m. Eastern to give fans more time to prepare. A major debate is unfolding over conference eligibility rules—specifically the Big Ten’s proposed ban on players returning to college after NFL draft declarations, which the SEC is monitoring but not acting on.
Legal experts suggest the rule’s inconsistent past application undermines its fairness, especially for the Class of 2022, and that conference bylaws may have more power than the NCAA in enforcing eligibility. The discussion highlights broader issues in college sports, such as the exploitation of player mobility and the lack of transparency in NCAA rules. The podcast then dives into key early-season matchups: North Carolina vs.
TCU in Ireland, where TCU’s new, run-heavy offense and North Carolina’s defensive struggles are expected to shape the game; Virginia vs. NC State, where Virginia’s rebuilding offense and defensive upgrades are closely watched; and Memphis vs. UNLV, a pivotal game with major playoff implications for the Mountain West and American conferences.
USC’s debut of true freshmen and depth are also spotlighted, though the game may serve more as a developmental showcase than a decisive contest. Overall, the episode emphasizes how early-season games provide valuable insight into team dynamics, coaching changes, and evolving strategies—especially in a season defined by uncertainty and realignment.
FAQs
The Big 10 is reportedly passing a rule to prevent players from returning to college football after declaring for the NFL draft, closing a loophole that previously allowed some players to re-enter. The SEC has not acted yet, and there's ongoing uncertainty about whether conferences can be held legally accountable for eligibility rulings.
Under current rules, players who have declared for the NFL draft are generally not allowed to return to college football unless the NCAA or a conference rules otherwise. The Big 10 is trying to close this loophole, which has raised questions about fairness and consistency in the system.
Yes, there is uncertainty. While the NCAA has historically applied rules inconsistently, lawsuits could potentially argue that conferences broke those rules. However, legal precedent suggests that such actions are difficult, especially since conference bylaws often operate independently of NCAA rules.
The 'five or five' rule allows players to return for a fifth year if they were in the NCAA system. Inconsistent application has led to confusion, with some players misinformed they couldn’t return. This inconsistency may have led to players entering the NFL when they could have stayed in college.
At Vanderbilt, Blaze Burlowitz has emerged as the starting quarterback due to consistent performance in camp, though Jared Curtis remains a potential backup. At Memphis, the starting quarterback is uncertain, with Jackson Arnold and Charles Huff both being considered, and the team is still evaluating its quarterback depth.
It features new offensive coordinators (Jaden Craig at TCU, Bobby Patrino at UNC), a young and inexperienced roster on both sides, and a defensive matchup where North Carolina’s defensive line and TCU’s pass rush will be tested. The game also showcases different offensive philosophies and slow-tempo dynamics.
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