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WE WERE RIGHT! UVU Releases Their Independent Review. | Ep 394

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WE WERE RIGHT! UVU Releases Their Independent Review. | Ep 394

An independent review of the September 10, 2025, Charlie Kirk event at Utah Valley University (UVU) concludes that no UVU employee acted in bad faith, but identifies critical failures in planning, security, and communication. Turning Point USA exerted complete control over the event, including venue selection, ticketing, and security management, bypassing university protocols and safety oversight. Key personnel like Dan Flood and Macy Crofts, responsible for security and event coordination, did not respond to outreach from the review team, raising transparency concerns. The review shows that Turning Point USA provided false or misleading information—such as drone usage and threat assessments—to UVU, and failed to communicate real-time crowd size, which escalated from an estimated 600 to over 3,000. UVU police discovered the crowd size during the event and requested additional security, but Turning Point USA offered no support or updates. There was no pre-event briefing, site walkthrough, or coordination between TPUSA security and UVU officials. Brian Harpole, a TPUSA security representative, falsely claimed he had a pre-event meeting and made false statements about drone use and rooftop threats in a public interview, contradicting evidence from the review. The report highlights systemic vulnerabilities, including lack of real-time monitoring, poor access control, and absence of emergency planning, and calls for institutional reforms. It emphasizes that TPUSA’s centralized control and information suppression undermined campus safety, while the university’s failure to enforce oversight contributed to the security lapse. The findings expose a pattern of disinformation and organizational negligence that contradicts claims of accidental or isolated failure.

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My experience working for Turning Point USA, immediately told you things that were off about September 10th. They sent the faith leaders. It's demonic. They said, "Oh, open your Bibles, the widow, the widow." Honor the widow. Well, has the widow been honoring her late husband? No more talk about the widow, guys. No more talk about the widow after this report has become available. I don't want to hear it ever again. I don't want to hear any person try to sell to us this emotional pitch of, "Oh, you're a car. You're a car. She's just a widow. Oh, no, she's conniving. She has a loud lies, okay? She has a loud lies because she has the CEO and the chairman. She's on home, taking care of her kid, she's on the road, connected to an apparatus of power at all times. That power has been sent to attack all of us for refusing to accept the Charlie Kirk Federal Slot narrative and what is so despicable, what I really want to harp on right here at the beginning because we told you, we said this report is going to drop. We told you it was damning, actually bearing Coleman reported it first, that report was incoming and what did they do? The Kirk family files this very sloppy, quick, preemptive strike where they say the security at UVU is to blame. That means somebody is leaking to them, but by the way, the report they knew they saw, they read and they were prepared with the statement always doing the same thing, by the way. They're always expecting us not to read it. You guys know I love to read stuff though. I love to read through it. I will take the time to read through every document when it comes to the Charlie Kirk case especially, especially when you have had me in your sites and you have come after me and you have come after those who have supported me and you have been vicious group chats come after my family, my kids, yeah. Well, let's go through it. Let's see what we learn in this report. It is astonishing. I mean, I got to just the timeline and I could not believe it. I could not believe how right we have been the entire time and when I plug this into the broader timeline of what Charlie was going through in his personal life, your jaw is going to hit the floor like mine did. So let's get started. Welcome back to Candace. Somebody get Andrew Colbert, Blake Neff, somebody wake up the widow, get the pastors, mind everybody, everybody get together, where's Frank Turek, where's Frank and Bank Turek. We're going to yank in bank in Frank, our way through this independent review, which they knew was coming. Clearly, knew was coming and tried to get ahead of now. We told you this already in the background of what was happening that essentially, almost immediately, UVU reached out to a third party, the Lake Forest Group to conduct a review, a broad review of the security protocols to see what went wrong that day to open up the campus, open up their police officers, open up everyone is sitting down with interviews and producing evidence as to what went wrong on September 10th assassination, bigger. You could argue this was a bigger assassination than JFK because of the ability for the video to have spread globally. People wanted answers and they basically put their hands up and said, go for it. Get the answers that you guys are looking at looking for. You could have obviously been implicated. We should start with who participated in this review because that alone is stunning. Eric has been telling us that she wants to get to the bottom of things that they want to figure out what happened, no matter what the answer is. They're not just, you know, pushing Tyler Robinson narrative. They're open to other considerations. She just wants the truth is what she said. She just wants the truth. This would be a really good thing for the CEO and chairman of Turning Point USA to participate in a third-party review if you're interested in getting to the truth about maybe how your organization may have played a role in the security failures that day. While we learn who participated on the bottom of page 6 and 7 of this review, we are told that they interviewed federal, local, county, and state officials. And we are told that UVU fully cooperated with the review, but guess who did not participate you guys? We learned that despite repeated outreach attempts, the project team did not receive responses from the following individuals or other representatives of their organizations. This information is included solely to document outreach efforts and to provide transparency regarding the scope of information available to the project team. The project team reached out to Brian Harpole, who was identified as the leader of the Integrity Solution Security team, working with Turning Point USA to provide executive protection for TPUSA CEO Charlie Kirk. The project team attempted to reach Harpole by telephone and certified letter. The certified letter explained the purpose of the outreach and provided the project team's contact information. The project team did not receive a response, neither did I, actually. We're going to get more into Dan Flood. I mean, I get more into Brian Harpole. Next up, the project team also reached out to Dan Flood, Turning Point USA's security supervisor. He's on staff and Macy Crofts, a Turning Point USA senior field work representative. Those two would know a lot. Flood was identified as the person who coordinated security for the organization with Brian Harpole, Integrity Solutions. Flood was present at UVU on September 10th and had a phone and text communication with UVU Police Chief Jeff Long a few days before and the morning of the event. And Macy Crofts was identified as a Senior Field Rep of Turning Point USA and she participated online in the Major Events Assessment Committee planning meeting that was held on August 25th, regarding the September 10th TPUSA event. But mysteriously, you guys, we learned that neither Flood nor Crofts responded to phone calls or voice no messages. In Flood's case, the project team also sent a certified letter. They did not have a current address for Crofts. They further contacted senior level staff members at Turning Point USA in Phoenix seeking assistance in connecting with Dan Flood and Macy. But the project team did not receive a response to those email and telephone outreach efforts. We then on the project team also reached out to the then head of the UVU TPUSA Club who had invited Charlie Kirk to speak at UVU. The project team sought his insights and perspectives regarding planning for the September 10th TPUSA event. But he did not respond to project team's various outreach efforts, which included a certified letter seeking his cooperation. That really is something Caleb Chilicatt, who Erica spotlighted at Amfast seemingly did not want to help the universe that he went to figure out what happened, what went wrong, how curious, how curious. Lastly, they tell us that a Utah Risk Management official had communications with an executive at Turning Point USA and urged that the above named individuals who were associated with TPUSA on September 10th who operate with the assessment by being interviewed by the project team. There was no response. Now, why is that interesting? It's interesting, not only because of the message that they have communicated to us over and over again about how they really just want the truth, you guys, but it's also interesting because Brian Harpole was willing to speak to Sean Ryan on the podcast. He opened up, he was talked about why wouldn't you speak to the independent review of everything you say to Sean Ryan is true and above board and we are going to learn that it was not, as I said. But if everything you're saying is true and you have nothing to hide, Erica, don't come for my employees, my family, don't come for her family, well, why don't you tell your family to open up the books? You did nothing wrong, they did nothing wrong, right? No, they all declined. And yet Andrew Colbert, Blake Neff, every single day, they're beating the drum talking about how transparent they've been, right? They just want answers. They spent a year trying to get you answers and you guys didn't participate. Let's go to page 10. This is just going to be an executive summary, but I want to highlight this because you are about to be hit with so much paid propaganda online to lie to you about what's in this document, so much so that you shouldn't even just take this episode. You should read it yourself and its entirety. You should read it its entirety. But I want to highlight the opinion of the project team and it's executive summary at the top on page 10, scroll down to the blue in the middle there. It is the opinion of the project team based on our review of all available information that at no time during the events leading up to the assassination of Charlie Kirk or in its aftermath. Did any employee or agent of UVU act in bad faith or in willful and want to disregard for the safety of others? With the benefit of hindsight, however, the project team identified several actions, omissions, circumstances and institutional practices that warrant attention as UVU considers how to strengthen the safety and security of campus events in the future. So they are saying this is our summary. They can't contrary to what Erica tried to very quickly, the Kirk family tried to quickly file. Our assessment is nobody at UVU acted in bad faith or in disregard for the safety of others, but we are going to make some suggestions for the future of how they could learn and strengthen the policies that are already on the books. Okay. Now, I want to talk also about this major events assessment committee. Actually, yeah, let's go to page 11. I have been telling you guys about this. There was this Microsoft teams meeting that took place if they have assessed on page 11 that this did take place, but it was turning point USA. That's wanted to have this event outside. We're going to talk more about that. The MEAC, that's the major events planning committee. And we're going to learn that turning point security did not take place in this, but it tells us here that the MEAC process was initiated on August 21st to determine whether or not the event should proceed and to identify security concerns. However, several key event security decisions were deferred to turning point USA's field representative, even though UVU staff members raised concerns, including concerns related to holding the event in the outdoor fountain courtyard area and using turning point USA's ticketing process. Turning point preferred to hold the event in the fountain courtyard and to use its own ticketing system rather than the university system. Those decisions placed the event in an area that was more difficult to control and limited UVU's ability to obtain reliable real time information regarding anticipated attendance and crowd size. Because the event was held on UVU's campus, UVU should have retained decision making authority over key security security related issues, including the venue selection, the ticketing and access control and other conditions that were necessary to support campus safety. I want to park that in the back of your mind, okay. Let's go to the timeline on page 17. I love a timeline. They put together a timeline and this I could not get over the first entry on this timeline. You will recall that very shortly after Charlie assassination, I said this event came together too quickly. Something is not right. And we were having a very hard time determining who requested this event. Do you remember they sent out Ali Stucky who has never had lined a tour with Charlie Kirk. She shares an X correspondence between her and Andrew putting together an event last second for this exact tour as evidence that I'm somehow lying. I mean, what an absolute terrible human being was girl is I went truly like I'm so sick and I was so angry thinking through the amount of people that Charlie has helped in their career and how quickly they turned their back on him. So I noticed you I said who requested this event because the way it normally works is every single turning point USA chapter separate from national wants Charlie Kirk, Candace Owens wants they they want you to come to their campus. They put in a request to turning point national and turning point national does their best and typically the consideration is has Charlie done this you know this university in the past, how big is this university. How is the club performing the also rewarding the basis of how how the independent clubs are performing. Okay, this year you're going to get Candace, you're going to get Charlie Kirk, you're going to get this speaker, you're going to get this speaker, how can we divvy it up our headliners available on those certain dates. And it is a process that takes place as I said you guys the semester before at a minimum at a bare minimum because the wait list is long course every chapter president wants to host them and I said something is not right about how this event came together. Low and behold we finally get an answer let's go to the let's go to the timeline I can't I'm shocked at this entry we learn that on July 10th 2025 at the request of turning point USA's field representative. That's Macie Crofts that means this was a complete flip turning point USA reached out to a club and president and said hey, we want you to put in a request for Charlie to speak in the courtyard. This is massive okay I cannot say to you enough I cannot underscore enough how massive this revelation is this is not how events come together at turning point USA. They don't say you put in the request and we want it in the fountain area and let me tell you how insane this is beyond that. They included Caleb's email in here Caleb's email requesting cl the Caleb Chillic it the club president requesting this event and he didn't even know why he was requesting it stunning we're going to now if you don't like guys don't mind pivoting let's go to page 39 where we can actually. Or it might be bought a page 40. I think it's pager nine where we can actually read no 40 give me 40 page 40 the email I think that's important for us to pivot to. Here it is this is the verbatim email from turning point USA UV use club president to UV you club services he wrote to them. My field representative for turning point USA has asked me to reach out to UV you club department to ask about availability on hosting an event on the courtyard on September 10th from 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. She referring to macy crafts is being quite vague on what this event is so unfortunately this is all the information I have in regards to it. Are you able to tell me if this space so she wanted it in the courtyard macy crafts it has to be in the courtyard doesn't tell much else can you let me know if this space is currently available for the date and time. Headquarters came to a club president and said. Contact them immediately see if this space is available and it's got to be in the courtyard. I like I can't explain to you like I'm like. On the brink of tears realizing this I told you there was something suspicious about how this event came together that right there is suspicious. Just do it just just an email and see if we can be in the courtyard he doesn't even know what's going on she's being big why is she being vague why is she being vague. I have an idea why she might have been being vague but I'm going to show you the Charlie Kirk timeline what's going on his life after we get through this let's go back up to that timeline if you guys don't mind. The timeline on the bottom of page 17 on page 17 okay so that's July 10th on July 18th is when he formerly maybe he got more details from macy. Submit and event request and the event is described as an appearance by Charlie Kirk to discuss current events and that ticketing is going to be handled by turning point USA it's going to be external the university will not have oversight over it. On July 28th the clubs office advises that turning point USA's club and annual registration had to be completed so they came back to them and they said actually you haven't even submitted your annual club. You form so you're not officially a club yet so they got that done the back end so the event is not been approved they are just suggesting that they want to do this event and then after they submit that registration on August 21st the club's office tends to attentively approves the events they forward it to event services as a major event. So M.E.A.C. is going to have to get involved and at that time in response to you the use questionnaire T.P. USA told them it was going to be 600 attendees that's going to be relevant later because when we say T.P. USA we mean once again Caleb Chilokit had no idea what was going on which means he was not in control of ticketing that is also unusual okay. Turning point USA national is handling the registration will learn that elsewhere in this documents they say on August 21st it's going to be 600 and then they offer to connect UVU PD with turning point USA security said that they had no risk factor for safety or security. And so on August 21st event services then emails everyone that's required on their end to attend the major events committee meeting and that is when the first time now it's been approved tentatively that Jeff long chief of police at UVU became aware of the event now he is a crucial name because they have been throwing so much dirt on his name that when I got through this document I don't see how he doesn't sue. I would I would sue not just turning point USA I would sue I would sue the university for allowing this narrative I mean Brian Harpole is. out there saying that, oh, this is the text message. You've got them saying security failed. Erica's filing a thing. They're pointing, I'm pretty sure she explicitly named Jeff Long in that filing. By the time you get through to this, you're gonna be like, I cannot believe the audacity of that. And you just have to be a sociopath to want to ruin this person's life. Knowing what you knew, okay? Turning point new, but it was them that orchestrated every aspect of this event. Turning point headquarters. This was not a slip up, even on the chapter. So I am saying Caleb Tullic did nothing wrong, okay? He's a chapter president. Headquarters is telling him what to do. He's at an age where he's young and dumb and he wants to be favored, right? Oh, well, little stroke on. Erica's gonna bring you on stage and give you an award. He's an idiot, maybe. That's the worst thing he's done. He's an idiot. He's a useful idiot for turning point USA headquarters. But Jeff Chief Long, yeah, by the time you get through this, you're gonna be thinking he should sue turning point USA for allowing for an entire year for people who think that he was the reason. That's explicitly what Brian Harpole said. What am I supposed to do with that? UVU police did this. They did that. Well, now we have an independent review. Let's keep going here. So we now know this is the first time he finds out August 21st and then you get this entry here, which is that instantly this was flagged by UVU. They have a free speech committee and they flag it because they say we're gonna anticipate protests and they have reviewed insights from prior turning point appearances, including an appearance of Charlie Kirk at UVU in 2019 with me, by the way, that was with me and we did have protesters and me and Charlie sat on the floor and went through the protesters. So they're going, we're gonna, we expect some action here. That's UVU, that's telling, that's saying that. Not turning point security. Then they have this mysterious entry that Brian Harpole stated in a public podcast on Sean Ryan that he first had a meeting on September 10th and they, that's when they started getting things together. Remember that Sean Ryan interviewed, but guess what? UVU has no idea what he was talking about. We're gonna learn about that. They have no idea what he was talking about because they weren't involved. The committee meeting, the major events assessment committee meeting, which happened just four days after the Jeff Long learned about this took place on August 25th. Guess who didn't attend this meeting? Not a single member of turning point security attended this crucial meeting, but they tell us what happened. UVU participants raised concerns about the outdoor courtyard location that Macy insisted on. The anticipated attendance, the protest activity, the crowd management, the ability to control access. This is the meeting, the security should have been a part of. And Macy said, no, we want the event to remain in the fountain courtyard despite the concerns and suggestions of alternative venues, turning point preferred from the beginning. They didn't have a plan and even know what they were doing, but they did know that it needed to be done in that fountain courtyard. Okay, TPOSA advised UVU that it would have approximately eight security personnel. And at that moment, and again, they spoke independently of people on the phone. They've conducted interviews, this has taken a year. Chief Long requested contact with that security leadership. So Chief Long is requesting on August 25th. We are now T minus 15 days. And where's the security contacting him and asking about specs? We continue. We now learn that on the 25th, the venue selection remained. That's obviously crucial that there was going to be no control in terms of protest, activity, crowd management, and access control. I mean, there just, there was no control ability, but that's a turning point wanted. Then we learn that the free speech committee discussed possible EOC activation again. That's all happening during that meeting. And then I'm a 27th is when it's formally approved. And that's what I was saying is that they're. They were not promoting this event. Everything was happening weightly in the day. It's insane that 3,000 people attended. And it gets approved. They start monitoring complaints and concerns on August 29th. The free speech committee really went above and beyond here. And they had an anonymous caller that demanded that the event be canceled. UVU president Tumenes requested updates regarding event planning on the 31st. The free speech committee kept monitoring that activity. Notice we're not seeing anything about what turning point USA was doing here. On September 2nd, Chief Long goes, "Hey, man, we're a week away from this event." And I've received no security request from turning point USA. I saw a point of contact. We had the MEAC on the 25th. Nobody was on that from security. We just had Macy Crofts. "Hey, can I get a point of contact on their security team?" And then finally, finally we learned that on September 3rd, T-7 from the event for the first time Dan Flood and Chief Long get on the phone for just five minutes in 28 seconds. And Chief Long asks Flood what turning point USA needs. And Dan Flood is focusing on, as I told you, the arrival, the departure and the parking logistics. They were really concerned about Charlie's SUV having a clean exit. And then he told him that turning point will typically have anywhere between eight and 10 security personnel. And then he had a follow-up call, which lasted just 48 seconds on the same day on the 3rd. And Chief Long and Dan Flood were talking about ticketing. And guess what Dan Flood says? He says, "National office is handling ticketing." Tickets, totals are not available. We can't tell you anything. T-7 days we don't, we can't tell you how many people are gonna come here. And so how could Chief Long be prepared for a crowd? The last update he's been told by Turning Point National is that it's 600 people. And Dan Flood, the chief security person, is telling him, "Yup, sorry, that's it." We don't have, we have, you got nothing. There are no updates here. Okay. We now have, we're looking at another key decision point on September 8th. TPUSA security is now concerned about what do they say? The pedestrian walkway access above the area where Charlie Kirk's canopy was to be placed. And this, my friends, is why I think, Turning Point USA executives are, I mean, you wanna talk about demonic possession. You have kept up this lie. You allowed Brian Harpole to tell this lie and Erica reinforced this lie in that recent filing that the Kirk family reinforced this lie and that recent filing that this text communication between Dan Flood was not about the canopy, but more broadly speaking was about rooftops. And actually from the beginning, this was a lie that Brian Harpole was telling. He was not only lying by omission, by pretending these were his messages. What am I supposed to do with the, he says to Sean Ryan? Nothing, because it's not your text message. It's a communication between Dan Flood and a communication between him and Jeff Long about particularly, amazingly, the two things they're concerned with is a clean exit for Charlie, Charlie's vehicle, and what's happening above Charlie's head? The exacts, ironically, that's going to be where people would reasonably see someone on the loasy center. They want that clear, and they want a clean exit. That's it. We are told that Dan initiated that text exchange on September 8th, T minus two days, regarding again, the accessibility of that canopy area above the hall of flags. And that is when Jeff Long said we got you covered in reference to, they make it clear, the hall of flags outdoor pedestrian walkway. Free speech committee, still monitoring, they're still doing their job. I give the free speech committee an A plus plus, by the way, and then we now have incident day. Now I'm not going to get into the emergency response, 'cause that's a huge part of this report, and I want to make sure that I have time to separately go through that, because some of it's irrelevant, they're making recommendations about what could happen in the future. A lot of it is not relevant to what we are trying to figure out, which is what took place on that day, and which should have been told to us from Turning Point, USA, right? So now, incident day, on September 10th, and we learn that Chief Long contacts the Utah SiAC, regarding an anonymous threat. That threat is a shocking threat that we're going to get into later. It's a threat about EMPs. EMPs, where did we learn about EMPs, and whose family was super involved with EMPs, Laurie Fronsfei, EMPs? I'm very interested in that 723 AM threat. We'll talk about that in a bit. 9 AM, the security arrives to campus. So they've done nothing. They have not been there. They've had a couple of communications of the day before with Chief Long, and Chief Long does not meet them until 9 o'clock AM. They weren't even trying to come at 7 AM to get a lay of a land, nothing. At 904, Dan Flood, text Chief Long advising that the rest of the security has arrived on to campus. Chief Long engages in a series of text communications with Flood to include several regarding individuals are located on that Hall of Flags pedestrian walkway. They're really concerned. They don't want anybody up there across from a loasy center. Now, you could say it's because they're worried people are going to throw stuff on Charlie's head. Yeah, that's reasonable too. That's a reasonable conclusion. You don't want somebody just above Charlie's head, but that's their main focus. And the text, it says that these text exchanges reveal we're going to read through them that the primary security focus for turning point USA was the Hall of Flags outdoor pedestrian walkway. We're going to be able to read through those messages. So there's no question anymore that that was Dan Flud's main focus. Then we learn, I want to point out 928 and 1028. Additional Charlie Kirk staff arrive on to campus at 928. And then an hour later, additional Charlie Kirk staff arrive on to campus. Now, when I read that, it's because they have call times. So my assumption-- and this is me reading into it-- is that at 9 AM, that was the security call time. At 928, you have some staff. And I don't know what's that going to be. It's not going to be social media. But also at 1028, you have additional staff. My issue immediately, what I'm thinking about when I look at that, is we are told that Tyler Robinson is going to go up to a girl. I know it's a girl. I know who the girl is. And she's involved in social media. And he's going to leave-- he leaves campus by what, actually, like 933, he pulls out of campus? 924. So unless this girl arrived with security at 904, I am very interested in determining when the group of girls arrived. Because that is very interesting. If Tyler Robinson has to go up to anybody before 928, it's likely just security. They may have missed this. Now, maybe they did come a little earlier for some reason. But I just wanted to point that out that it makes that entry-interesting in a Tyler Robinson timeline. Of course, we then know what happens is there's going to be all this backforth between Dan Flood and Chief Long, because lo and behold, there are some people that are protesting up there before the event gets started. And they have a communication. Chief Long requests that the UVUPD detective, along with a sergeant and additional officer-- oh, I'm sorry, the initial UVUPD staffing, including Chief Long, one patrol officer, and one reserve officer-- after observing the crowd size. That's a crucial entry at 11 a.m. So it was actually UVU that requested more people after observing the crowd size an hour ahead. They're like, what, we were told 600. This looks like it's 3,000. We need to up the crowd size. For any point, USA did not request that. So they're there. They are obsessing things. And at no point did they communicate now that they're in communication like, hey, we might need some more people. We weren't expecting this many people. It also tells us that at 10.49, Chief Long texted Dan Flood to meet at the Hall of Flags outdoor at 11. But the meeting did not occur. So UVU requested that they have a little pow-wow before. It doesn't happen. And UVU is the one that suggests after observing the crowd size that day, which would have been the only time they could have observed it, because turning point USA was in charge of registration. UVU is the one that decides, hey, we should up the security presence here. That's stunning. That is damning. It is contrary to everything that they have told us as they have tried to paint it as though UVU PD is who failed on that day. Failed trucker on that day. They're telling us who went up to the Hall of Flags and dealt with the protesters. That's between 11, 20, and 11, 30. And that the protesters did move away. And then the officers blocked them off with security tape, which we saw so that they couldn't run over. And those are the communications that Dan Flood has with him. Then at 11.30, Chief Long goes up to the second floor of the Fugal Gateway Building, because he established a command post because that building allows them to see everything. It gives them visibility over the entire event area. Guess who didn't join him in that command post? Any member of Turning Point USA's security team? I'm going to show you where that Fugal building is. That'd be a good place to be. If you wanted to be high up, they take that top floor. They're observing what's happening below. That would be a good place to send one of your 12 men. If you were curious what was going on beneath and you wanted to have a good eyesight line, but they did not, okay? We go back into that timeline. And we have, obviously, we know what happens next is that the person is going to jump onto the rooftop. Then they say the big bang happens. They obviously are telling you what happens just on the surveillance, the dispatch. And this is the stuff that I'm going to want to actually get into on a later episode so that we can separate Turning Point USA's actions leading up to this from what happened thereafter. And there's a lot to go over in terms of them saying that when they probably got to the hospital, there was a fire chief that performed CPR throws into further chaos, various statements that we have heard. But let's scroll down now to 2.3. Let's go to the bottom of page 39 where it talks about that meeting. That took place, the Microsoft Teams meeting, which the security did not partake in. I'm going to go to that last paragraph. Actually, you know what, let's go to 2.3. Yeah, let's go to even below that. During the August 25th major events Teams meeting, Macy Crofts, we're going to talk about her more. A senior field representative for Turning Point USA participated at the request of Turning Point USA. So again, that's national. Okay, UVU participants race concerns regarding Turning Point USA's requested location in the large tiered foul-in courtyard near the main entrance. Concerns included anticipated attendance, potential protest activity, crowd management and the ability to control access. UVU officials suggested alternative locations such as the Fulton Library, the Quad or interior locations where access could be more effectively controlled. UVU also suggested using the university ticketing system. So anticipated attendance could be tracked and incorporated into the planning, according to meeting participants, Crofts insisted. They're using the word insisted on the use of the foul-in courtyard location because Charlie Kirk had previously spoken on campus and Turning Point USA was familiar with that location. He also previously spoke on that location with me and we weren't, we were not in the courtyard. So I'm wondering if she even told the truth that he had previously spoken or tried to imply that he was in that location. She said that she preferred that TPUSA manage online ticketing through its national office in Phoenix. And when certain major events members expressed reservations, including Robin Ebmeyer, UVU's director of emergency management and safety, the committee ultimately allowed the event to proceed in the requested location and allowed Turning Point USA to manage ticketing. Elsewhere they're going to tell us, the reason for that is because they didn't want to violate free speech, essentially, that they're in this catch 22 situation because you have to allow people to protest, you have to allow for free speech of events and we'll cover that more. Let's go to 2.4 where we learn straight. This is page 41, we're going to again read this email and scroll down a bit. Here we go. This is a verbatim, oh wait, I'm missing an email. Is there another email? Ah, there it is. No, no, no, that's the club president email and then there's another email they had in here. Might have wrote this incorrectly, but it tells us, or maybe it wasn't an email, maybe it's just telling us that the questionnaire had been completed, yeah, it's under 2.4. So it probably was not an email and I just misremembered whether or not it was an email, but you can go back to 2.4, which is page 41. Here we go, pre-event, yeah, yeah, they quote, here we go. On August 21st, the UVU Turning Point USA Club President emailed the club's office a completed MEAC questionnaire indicating that it provided answers straight from the TPUSA team. Headquarters is handling this event. Headquarters is involved, they're telling us what to write, they're telling us what to say. So when we learn that they declined an ambulance, my guess is that Caleb Chilicate was just the useful idiot because straight from the TPUSA team, they are being told how to complete the questionnaire. Straight from the TPUSA team, 600 attendees, primarily student focus, some potential public interests, no risk factors or safety security concerns or need for emergency medical services. Straight from the TPUSA team is what he wanted them to know. How unusual. How. unusual. Then we can go to this threat, this obscure threat, bottom of page 42, that Chief Long received on the day of the event. It's a Chief Long also contacted SIAC, and I want to let you guys know what SIAC is. Let me tie a look at this up earlier, forgot to write down. It's the statewide information and analysis center, so they work with that government bureau when they are dealing with cybersecurity threats. Chief Long contacted SIAC by email at approximately 7.30 a.m. on September 10th to share an anonymous tip to UVU, received regarding a potential threat involving an electromagnetic pulse device, that a suspect might be using at the event. Chief Long was seeking to determine whether any threat-related intelligence update was available regarding the tip. Long was advised, email was the best method to request information from the Utah SIAC. The SIAC responded shortly thereafter, Chief Long, but it was not a credible threat as it appeared. The tipster had provided similar information in the past that was determined to be unreliable. I feel like this is an area that I would like to know more about. This is an area that seems very strange to me, an electromagnetic pulse device that a suspect might use at the event. I just want to highlight that because I find that to be shocking, random, and perhaps ultimately it is just a crazy person that says that there's a threat via electromagnetic pulse devices, but given everything that we had been talking about and my utter and complete disbelief that Charlie was shot with 30 out six from Losey Rooftop and had a miracle Superman neck, I think that that should be explored more. We elsewhere learn, and we can go down now to read the text message exchange between Dan Flood and Jeff Long, just for confirmation, and it's verbatim. Dan Flood, right when they are discussing the Hall of Flags walkway. Hello, Chief Long. We received this message today from the student group. We have gone over this message many times. Dan Flood was speaking about that student roof access pretty close to where Charlie Kirk will be set up at Utah Valley. The Serencent Student Center has a couple staircases that go up to the walkways on the roof. Chief Long asks, do you want access to the roof? Dan Flood says, I was told students have access above us, this is true. It would be nice to either have it controlled access or allow one of my guys to be there as well as possible. And Chief Long says, I got you covered and Dan Flood says, thank you, sir. And indeed, they did have them covered. And then they lied to the public about what they were speaking about. There's no way a year on that Erica and Turning Point USA don't know that this was severely misrepresented by Brian Harpole. And they can't make Brian Harpole the fall guy. You don't know why they can't do that because their employee gave him the text message to go on to Sean Ryan. This was not this was not Brian Harpole's conversation. So there's some coordination happening between Dan Flood and Brian Harpole before he goes on to Sean Ryan that he presents a message that is not his and misrepresent it. It's like they're they're trying to keep their distance from this interview, but I don't accept that. And that's why this is my favorite part when we get to the top of page 47 and they start listing Harpole's lies. I love this because I'm being sued for telling you that Harpole is a liar. And now we have an official independent review board who's going to signal that Harpole lied throughout this interview. But we're supposed to trust him on Fort Watchuka guys. We're supposed to trust him on Fort Watchuka, but we learned that everything virtually everything that he told Sean Ryan isn't accurate. Let's go wide on this. Okay, let's go. I'm sorry. Maybe it's a little further up. It looks like this is in the middle of it. It starts there. Okay. His podcast interview, right? The project team never received a response. They let us know. But we did we were able like everybody else to watch this interview. And we noted that he kind of lied. That means we shouldn't trust Brian Harpole, guys. We shouldn't trust Brian Harpole now that we learn officially that he lied. Going to that last paragraph, Harpole stated that his first meeting to discuss September 10th, TPU SA event occurred on August 24th. That was one day before the UVU MEAC meeting during which TPU SA representative Macy Crofts advised UVU of turning point USA's preferred venue location and ticketing process, which UVU approved. Harpole stated that damn flood was a security guy of returning point. He said flood did not share any specific security concerns or threats with him. During the pre event planning, Harpole stated that flood would meticulously share any intelligence that he believed was important. In the podcast, Harpole gave no indication that he considered requesting an onsite pre event meeting with campus police to evaluate vulnerabilities and make security assignments. Harpole explained that his team was focused on securing what he called the bubble, meaning the area in front of and around where Charlie Kirk would be speaking. Harpole stated that when he and his team arrived at UVU a few hours before the event, they surveyed the area and believed the venue location was horrible. Oh, they got there and said it was horrible. He specifically identified the concern that someone in elevated position would have a 180 degree view of the area where Charlie Kirk would be speaking. Harpole described that as ignorant and a security fail, but he acknowledged that Charlie Kirk liked the venue. Okay. Harpole further stated that the venue location was selected by UVU and that UVU told TPSA, quote, "nope, this is where you have to have it." Well, that's a lie. So, to someone at turning point USA lie to Brian Harpole about that or as Brian Harpole lying to Sean Ryan about that, because now we know that that's just a lie. They wrote, "This was one of the primary reasons the project team sought to speak directly with Harpole since this particular statement and a number of others at Harpole made conflict with what the project team learned from reviewing evidence and conducting numerous interviews with those who attended the major events meeting and were present on the day of the event." Indeed, multiple interviews at the project team conducted indicated that UVU had expressed concerns about the outdoor location, including during the August 25th, MEAC meeting, but ultimately agreed to turning point USA's requested venue location. How could Brian get that so wrong? They sought to clarify that and he decided to say nothing. In the very beginning of this, since July 10th, it was turning point USA, not even with the plan, just saying, "Kaleb, make sure we get that outdoor venue." The project team also sought to learn more about pre-event planning related to the possible use of aerial drones. That was another big area. During the podcast, Harpole discussed the lack of a drone camera in the air during the event. He stated that TPUSA's team, video team, used what he described as "little, bitty drones to take a quick shot of the venue before the event," but Harpole also stated that although his team had drones, they did not use them during the event because of FAA restrictions related to the Provo airspace. But just like we told you guys, that was a lie. You want to know why it's a lie? Well, the project's team's basic research indicated that drone operations are restricted within a five-mile radius of Provo Airport and Class D airspace, just as we reported on this podcast. Orham is not within five miles of the Provo airport airspace, so he lied. He expressed concern that UVU PD did not have a drone available. Without being able to speak directly with Harpole, it remains unclear to the project team why during the hours before Charlie Cook's arrival, Harpole's team in UVU did not discuss efforts to secure a drone. Oh, they didn't request one. Harpole just sort of said, "I got a drone and I can't use it because of the Provo airspace, which is completely irrelevant to where we're going." He lied. He lied. It says that if the team had concerns with the venue location, a drone from the neighboring Orham Police Department could have been requested. It wasn't requested because it wasn't requested. That's why. Harpole also stated during the podcast that federal law would not allow his team to post a counter-sniper on a roof. However, if that's what he was concerned about, the roofs, then it's unclear why he did not post any members of his team in elevated locations for general security observation purposes. They're saying, "We're not asking you to post a counter-sniper." Maybe that violates federal law, but how about just getting somebody up high to look at the rooftops? You didn't do that. Doesn't seem like the rooftops where you're concerned at all. Is a counter-sniper or it's nothing? Yeah, he failed to mention that. That's a lie by severe omission that he never communicated that he wanted to be high up or that he wanted to have observations of the rooftop. We also, like I said, showed you that map of the Fugal Gateway building. They had nobody up there. Elsewhere we learn, and this is moving on from Brian Harpole. This is the bottom of page 48. I think this is something that needs to be explored more and I intend to do so this weekend. We're going to take off Monday. The bottom of page 48 that Officer Bagley was indeed the first to suggest going up to the Losi Center after the Big Bang. During that initial response, Officer Bagley identified the elevated roof area of the Losi Center as a possible source location of the assailant. I find that to be very interesting. Officer Bagley's body cam footage went off, lost the battery. I don't know, I don't know, he just wasn't working, whatever he testified. He had no body cam. He was the one that said we should go up and then he locates a screwdriver and an area of disturbed gravel on the roof that appeared consistent with a possible prone shooting position. It was his quick recognition of the likely shooting position that was significant because it helped to focus the investigation on the elevated roof area. It's very interesting. Officer Bagley was the person behind that because we've told you that he has some interesting history. They all kind of have this background history in sex crimes. I'm mentioning that again because it's going to become relevant when I show you what Charlie Kirk was going through in his life at this time. Page 53, we are again told that Turning Point USA controlled everything, decision making, ticketing, etc. They impress that upon us. We can go to the bottom of page. Actually, let's get it verbatim just so there's no dispute here. Let's go to page 53. You're at the right spot, I think. Are you? Yeah, great. In the project, Teams assessment. No wait, no, you're right. Top, let's go top of page 53. Just go down a little bit more. At the same time, the preparation process revealed several important gaps. There was limited time between chief long first learning of the event and the event date. The security assessment process did not result in documented requirements for venue modification. The university controlled ticketing, controlled access, credentialing, screening, or additional staffing. You did not have reliable access to ticketing or registration data. Ordination with TPSA security team was very limited and did not include a structured pre-event briefing or a site walking through before or on September 10 between Brian Harpole, Dan Flood, and the UVUPD. Chief Long did not initiate a mutual aid request to the Orren Police Department or other local public safety partners before the event. Additional external resources were not requested after the crowd size became apparent. There also is not a dedicated assignment for real-time security video monitoring by UVUPD dispatch personnel or others from another operational location during the event. This is when they jump into all of their suggestions about how these are ways they can update things in the future. I do want to point out the bottom of page 1661 because then we learn that turning point never actually issued any tickets, which is, by the way, I will say common, because they just tell you that you have to register for the event. They did not require tickets at the actual event. Why would they? If there's no traffic control, they just allowed people to freely register. Again, handled entirely by turning point USA national and not communicated to the police, but it calls into question the wristbands that were given out. The review states that there was no formal credentialing process for VIPs. It tells us that so who they had somebody from turning point national handing out wristbands to people that were sitting in a section to the right of Charlie. And learning that there was no ticket verification, there was no credentialing, there was no screening, there was no designated entry and exit points. There were no restricted access areas. I'm wondering how on earth there could have been people that were being given wristbands. That is a question that I am just opening up because that makes no sense to me. That makes no sense to me. That turning point national was handing out wristbands to those people that would come down and be by the car. A lot of people, by the way, who reported footage in particular, a lot of people, the same crowd of people who are speaking to the press thereafter. I'm wondering why those wristbands, who those people are. If you, the you, was saying that they didn't have a VIP system, then that must mean that somehow national did. Not buying tickets, sound like your ticket says, I bought a VIP ticket, you're just registering online. That is a question that needs to be answered. That is odd to me. And it's something that I pointed out early on. I said, what are these wristbands? What is this about? We're going to find out. Now that we have gone through this, you guys, I want to now input it into the Charlie Kirk timeline in terms of what he was going through. So I think it will send a chill up your spine. Meet new Grippie setting mist from Mabelie, New York. Gel to mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours, with flexible all day comfy grip. Just clump, dewey hydrated skin that still feels like your skin. Try new Grippie setting mist from Mabelie, New York. Maybe it's Mabelie. To a break first, my producer is saying, let's take a quick break first, and then we're going to go through what was going on in Charlie's life by implementing what we've learned here into our master timeline. 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With unlimited high-speed data for just 34, 99 a month, you can save a fortune. Again, that's puretalk.com/oens to get 50% off your first month. Puretalk.com/oens. So July was a very interesting, I kept telling you guys something happened in July. Something happened, something just was going on in July when I started putting together this timeline, and now we can further fill out this timeline. I'm just giving you facts. Some of the facts are not even relevant. I just have it on my timeline because I thought it might be relevant, but you should you should see it. Let's bring in the Charlie Kirk timeline beginning in July of 2025. From July 7th to July 9th, BB Net and Yahoo visits America. The records podcast with the notebooks while he's in Washington, DC. From July 7th to July 9th, BB Net and Yahoo is in Washington, DC. On July 10th, the very next day after he leaves, and I want to be clear, BB Net and Yahoo did not kill Charlie Kirk. He let us know immediately after Charlie Kirk died, but he didn't kill him. We'll have to take that at base value. But after he leaves DC on July 10th, turning point USA headquarters, Macy Crofts asks the UTheU club president to pull together an event, and the club president has no idea what that event is, but she does know that he needs to be in the amphitheater. So that's what's communicated by Caleb to the school. He needs to be in the amphitheater. She's being vague. She's being vague. I don't know what's really going on. Okay. July 11th to the 13th is the action summit in Tampa, Florida. Charlie's first speech is at 4 p.m. His last speech is concluded. We should have probably rinse that. The tail number doesn't matter. It's not associated anymore, but we should delete that anyways. I'll just cut that in post. Tucker Carlson on the 11th speaks and donors freak out. Charlie tells him to go max. He calls out Jeffrey Epstein in particular, because that's what Charlie is hitting. By the way, every day on his podcast, he is calling for the release of the Epstein files. Yes. Megan to speak about it. Yes. Tucker Carlson to speak about it. He says that Tucker Carlson says that people who serve in foreign armies should be stripped of their citizenship. And he muses about where Bill Akman's wealth comes from. Who is this guy? Where is his money coming from? Tucker will later say he doesn't know what came over him. He just, this is just how he felt. And Charlie said go after the Epstein stuff. On July 11th, Frank Turg. to lead his website, Frank Turk.com. The website has remnants of an exhibition he took. I went on way back machine. He was looking for remnants of Noah's Ark. I don't know what that means, but just found that to be interesting that he'd lead his website in July 12th. According to the New York Times, President Trump calls Charlie angry and scolds him about his event the day before, and that he had turned into an Epstein grievance fest. So Charlie's pushing the Epstein stuff. On July 14th, Charlie Kirk goes on a show and he says he's gonna stop covering the Epstein story and just trust his friends and administration. He is under pressure to stop speaking about Jeffrey Epstein. Do we have that clip, Sky? Let's play that clip. - Plenty was said this last weekend at our event about Epstein. Honestly, I'm done talking about Epstein for the time being. I'm gonna trust my friends, the administration. - Epstein. - I'm gonna trust my friends and the government to do what needs to be done. Solve it, balls in their hands. I've said, pull any this last weekend. So if you guys wanna see my commentary on it, that's fine. We have escalatory action potentially being taken in Ukraine and Russia. We have tons of announcements happening when it comes to NATO. But let me just say this again. Everyone knows my opinion about the Epstein thing, the messaging fumble. I would love to see the DOJ move to un-seal the grand jury testimony. I think that would be a big win. I would love to see that. And I'm gonna trust my friends, Cash Patel, Dan Bungino, my friend Pam Bondi. All these guys, I'm gonna a Todd Blanche. I'm gonna trust them to solve it. Balls in their court. I think that there was plenty of, let's say, speeches that were directed towards this topic this last weekend. So we don't need to spend our valuable time on this program, relitigating it. - Charlie is saying I went back on Epstein at SAS and we learned later things to Tucker and Megan Kelly that that was his intention. He wanted that out there. He wanted to hit hard and he wanted to pressure and he played, you know, obviously paid dearly for that. He says he's gonna trust his friends to investigate. Okay, so we're back into the timeline. I said, President Tronkin's in the call. Okay, he says in the show he's gonna stop covering the Epstein story. On the 14th, Erica travels aboard a private flight to Long Beach, California. And she speaks at James Catas' Calvary Chapel Church. That's the James Catas. You see him rolling with her to the court hearing. He's the one that she does the show with and he is radically pro-Israel. Radically pro-Israel. She gives a speech at his women's summers of psalm retreat and she says bizarrely, and I'm writing bizarrely that she gives a speech such pro-Israel about a call to arms despite what Charlie's going through. That's why it's bizarre. Because you know the pressure that your husband is under, donors are pulling out money, threatening him. The president, I say, just called him and he's going max against the Epstein stuff and she's like just giving a speech. That's, I would say, pro-Israel. Then on July 18th, that's when the formal request came in from Turning Point, USA to hold the events because they had to up their club annual administration. And so they did that and then we have our Egyptian planes that come into Omaha, Nebraska and then head to Lincoln, Nebraska. And then Charlie vacations in Maine. And I'll tell you why this is interesting because it's the first time Mikey McCoy and Elizabeth join him and they capture what's going to be Elizabeth and Mikey capture all this final footage of Charlie and Erica that we're then going to be shown immediately after it's not old footage. It's final footage from this trip. She tries to hold his hands, the kids are walking, all of this beautiful footage. They must just have an eye for a photography. This is the first time they've done this. They've all vacationed together. July 25th, why re-fi comes in as the number one sponsor for a Charlie Kirk fall tour? Let's Lane Schumberger. He's going to be there when Charlie goes down. His daughter's going to be there as well. It's odd that he came as a sponsor in July 25th because he had already, why re-fi had already signed a contract in January, which covered events through the end of the year. So he decides to re-up it, offer Charlie more money. Let's say, let me sponsor a fall tour for you on July 25th. What catalyzed this sudden adendum for a fall tour? If you already had signed a contract through the end of the year and you said, I'm going to do this event, this event, this event, this event, why suddenly come in with an adendum and say, hey, I'm going to give you more cash and I'd like to get behind your Charlie Kirk fall tour. I don't know, I don't know the answer. I'm just asking questions. July 27th, our Egyptian plane leaves. The plane is going to be the same day of Charlie's assassination. He departs Wilmington, Delaware, heads back to Cairo. On August 3rd, Charlie and Erica land in Bedford, New York for the Hamptons retreat. That's one of the partner Egyptian planes that I have on there. August 5th and sit through 6th. The Hamptons retreat was Charlie will describe as an intervention and you can go and listen to his comments after this retreat on the Meccan Kelly show. The influencer strip is sponsored by Bill Ackman, the very person that Tucker Carlson called out on stage. During that time, BB Netanyahu, who did not kill Charlie Kirk, I want to be very clear. He said it on Fox News, so it must be true. He's killed a lot of people, the idea was called a ton of kids, but this, he didn't do, he wouldn't do that, no way. And he decides to call Charlie and he makes an offer. I was told directly by Andrew Colbert to take Turning Point USA to the next level. An exchange for what? Nobody is interested in exchange for what? Erica will claim just to be fair to how Turning Point has rebutted this privately to me that he called, but it was just a follow-up to a letter that Charlie had written him in May. She says there was no offer. She says no, I Andrew Colbert said that. He was just calling to call. He's not busy. And he just wanted to see how Charlie is. Okay, what we do know is that he invites Charlie to Israel and Charlie declined to go to Israel. He also, Charlie also declined to be Netanyahu on his show. So it's very clear which way the wind was blowing if he's covering Epstein hosting people who like Dave Smith versus Josh Hammer, allowing him to just absolutely destroy Josh Hammer in a debate. What happens next in August 19th, is Cash Patel visits the Omaha Nebraska field office. I wonder how often he does that. No, really, I wonder so much that we filed at FOIA to see who was on the plane. And it came back and said that we have no right to have that information. I mean, what was the exact response? Ashley, they told us like that it would already on a wait list for information or that it's, you'll have to pull it up. But we did file an FOIA request. I thought, oh, that's interesting. What's going on in Nebraska? And I wanted to just know who was on the plane and we were to climb that information via an FOIA request. The exact language that we got back was we cannot confirm or deny the existence of such records. And the records we were seeking was who was on the plane with Cash Patel? Wonderful. August 24th is when Brian Harpo claims that security began planning for the event. UVU was not informed or included in that said planning. On the military side of things, Operation Valhalla Strike begins between civilians and the military in Minnesota. It's an interesting name Valhalla Strike. Coordination between civilians and the military. I wonder what they were doing. I'd like to know more about that. Then of course, as we just went over on August 25th, the UVU major events meeting to place, a Microsoft team, turning point, sent people out to scout a location for their event. I'm not sure if that's still accurate, but I have it on the timeline for some reason. I don't have a link there. The school suggests that they do not see Charlie in the app of theater, turning point insists because of Macy Crofts. UVU police ask her for a TPUSA security contact. None is provided. That's also, we will learn that if you read the document that they requested that from Har, they never got it. They then had to go back to Caleb and request, which is what Jeff Long did on September 2nd, going, "I still don't have a contact." And then finally Dan Flood calls him the next day. So that's what went down leading up to September 10th in Charlie's life. So you're probably interested in Macy Crofts. And I'm, you know, this is public information that she was the driver of the bus, so to speak. And she would be working with Andrew Cipher on this. He's the long-time head of the field. He is, I call him one of Tyler Boyer's guys who was also present on that day. But you just start to wonder if Charlie texted me the night before saying that he thinks he's gonna die. And he's under a lot of pressure. Why did no one ship this event inside? In fact, it's noted in those documents that they could have just told him, that Brian Harpo got on the ground and said, "I don't like the way this feels." And Frank Turks said, "I don't like the way this feels." They still could have accommodated them potentially. They could have moved the event inside potentially. They never communicated this to the police at UVU. So you're like, "Oh, who is Macy?" And, you know, in the back when I worked on everybody, I've been working on everybody wanting to just know information about these people because I'm just trying to put together common themes. And I want to be clear, this thread that I came across has nothing to do with Macy. You can't control what your family does. But, you know, when I learned that her father had passed suddenly, and that her family was involved in law enforcement in Idaho, I did come across a very interesting case of her uncle. In June of 2025, I should plot this actually on a timeline that Macy Croft's uncle was charged for action at a school. And I want to get these charges exactly right. Her uncle was Kip Croft's. A warrant was issued to charging Kip Croft's, that's her dad's brother, with sexual abuse of a minor. The girl was 14 years old. He was arrested without incident in June of 2025 by NAMPA police officers. NAMPA Idaho, yes. That is where Eric Kirk just did an event. When he arrived at his job, that's when they apprehended him. He was accused of touching himself in a classroom while watching explicit adult content in 2024. And then after he gets arrested in June, then in November of 2025, Croft's attorney argued for a dismissal, saying that while it was poor judgment for him to do that and to leave the door unlocked, he was trying to conceal his actions when the minor walked in. The judge in November had denied that dismissal and said there was more than enough evidence to send things forward to a grand jury. The minor's testimony said that students regularly left their backpacks. In his classroom, they picked them up after extracurricular activities, which he knew. So she was going in to get her backpack and came upon this. What then happened was the Canyon County prosecuting attorney, Alana Minton, told the judge that a new piece of information came to light that we had previously been unaware of. The new information was that the door to Croft's classroom may have been locked at the time of the alleged incident. They couldn't establish intent. It would be difficult for them to prove his intent for a child to see him. So it's not disputing that he was doing what he was doing. They're disputing the child's version of events and his version of events and establishing intent. Anyway, he ends up getting this dropped. I'm going to let you listen to the news clips on this. Take a listen. After months of court hearings and with trial sent to begin next week, the criminal case against former high school football coach Kip Cross has been dismissed. I'm recalled one neighborhood reporter Leslie Soliz and I was the only reporter in the court room as prosecutors informed the judge that newly discovered information prevents them from proceeding with a charge of sexual abuse of a child under 16. What had been headed towards a jury trial instead came to a halt inside a Canyon County courtroom on Tuesday. The state is unable to prove one of the elements of sexual abuse that amire under 16. I don't even know if I probably will cause another reason to doubt. The case centered on allegations that cross exposed himself while watching explicit material in a cultural high school classroom with a 14 year old student present. Prosecutors told the court that information uncovered during final trial preparation changed their ability to establish intent. A required part of the felony charge. This whistle in this case is appropriate. It would serve the ends of justice. The judge noted the classroom was locked, not open. A distinction that directly affects how the intent would have been evaluated. The state explored whether the case could move forward under a lesser misdemeanor charge of indecent exposure but told the court they were not permitted to modify the indictment. The state makes the oral motion today moving to court to dismiss this indictment. That motion was granted bringing the case to a close before a jury could hear it. Outside the courtroom, the teen's father, who asked not to be identified to protect his daughter, said the outcome leaves his family feeling unheard. We're disappointed in how this was handled. That the truth didn't get out. They felt my daughter's not me. It's not, you know, I feel like it's not about us. It's about the kids at school. With the ruling cross no contact order that applied to all minors was lifted. He was released from all pre-trial restrictions. I spoke with Croft's attorney, which he stated his client was never guilty of a crime and the dismissal before trial proves that. I don't know. I've never dealt with a case in which tangentially there just seems to be so much human trafficking, allegations of child sex abuse, allegations that Erica was frequenting the office that Jeffrey Epstein and his cohorts were frequent. I've never, never, ever, ever could I have imagined this many common things. Again, Macy's not involved in this case is her uncle, but it got dropped on a technicality. So he's not guilty. His client, like he said, is not guilty. It's not about whether he did, he did. He's not denying he did the things. It's about establishing intent and I guess you heard it. You have to establish a tent and he says it was locked and she says that it wasn't locked. And well, these things happen in Idaho. Anyway, we'll be right back after a break. All right, you guys, do you maybe owe back taxes? Do you have years of unfiled returns or maybe you file every year, but your tax balance just keeps growing? The October tax deadline is already approaching and now is the perfect time to take action. Every month that you wait, IRS penalties and interests can continue adding to what you owe. And if you don't have a plan, you could face an even bigger tax problem. So before the IRS sends more letters or takes collection action called tax network USA. They've been helping taxpayers nationwide for more than 15 years, resolving back taxes, unfiled returns and serious IRS problems. Whether you owe $10,000 or $10 million, their team has resolved over $1 billion in tax debt. 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And I want to make sure that I can be 100% about what I'm going to say and that we are accurate in discussing what happened because there's some very interesting information about what took place with all the coordinating agencies. But your main takeaway from today's episode should be the audacity of turning point USA over this last year. The audacity of Blake Neff, the audacity of Andrew Colbert, but most of all, the audacity of Erica. The audacity of Erica to have a syndicate of pastors, a syndicate of filthy third-rate online trolls attacking us day in and day out for pointing out what seemed to be obvious. When I said something, it's not right about how this event came together. Now we learned this was just pushed ahead quarters. The list of TPSH chapters that request to have Charlie speak be damned. This has to happen. We don't even know what kind of events going to be, but we know we need the courtyard. The courtyard's got to happen. The audacity of Erica Kirk. I am just so sickened by how much power and how much money is behind this. How much power and how much money and the audacity of President Donald Trump who Charlie did so much for is so close to. The audacity of the Neocons, it's becoming clearer and clearer why they are invested in this. Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel, Israel. But to be clear, BB Netanyahu says he had nothing to do with Charlie's death. He used to take a face value in America. It's just a widow who needs your support and the best way to support her is with your hard earned dollars. And I hope that's what you got out of this. I hope what you really get out of this report is that you should start a turning point USA chapter at your local middle school. 'Cause that's where she's doing the rounds now. At middle schools, not answering any of these questions. Could there be a rational answer for why turning point USA did not want to participate in what they were already signaling to the public. They're willing to speak to the press. They're willing to speak to CBS news, ABC news, official spokesperson are coming out and saying the security did that, but they were not willing to sit down with an independent review. They could force Dan Flood to do that 'cause he was their employee, they didn't do that. Why did I do that? Why is that Dan Flood didn't want to accept the raise and bonus that Eric offered? If Caleb Chilokit was my kid, he would be participating in that. I would force him to participate in that. I would say you will have nothing to do with obscuring anything that went on that day. Your name is already gonna get dragged. You did nothing wrong and I want to be clear. I think Caleb did nothing wrong at all. He was told what to do by headquarters and he did it. And I believe Macy was told what to do likely by Andrew Cipher who was promoted shortly thereafter to achieve position at the organization. And I believe that he's always been based on my experience Tyler Boyer's guy. And there were rumblings early on that money was missing particularly from turning point action, which Tyler Boyer controls. And I heard that from people at Turning Point USA and I heard it from a person outside of Turning Point USA who knew Charlie and said that Charlie was gearing up to fire Turning Tyler Boyer. The person who introduced him in Erica, allegedly Mikey McCoy expressed to people that Charlie wanted to fire Tyler Boyer. Well, good news, Tyler Boyer is not fired because Charlie is no longer here. And Erica's in control and him and Erica go back. Since before, Erica knew Charlie. It's good to have those sorts of relationships. You just wonder what those relationships are really about. And I think we have demonstrated that there's a lot of smoke here. In fact, I'd say this is a fire and I do just wanna express before we get into your comments how positively sick and I am that a man could dedicate so much of his life to platforming so many individuals and all of them turn, turn their back on him. They're all betraying Charlie day in and day out. All of those influencers that you see that are lying about things obscuring, helping participate in the gaslighting of what's happened here jumping on and saying, oh, it's so crazy, anybody would ever have a question about Erica Kirk. Reading through this document should also sick in you. Charlie was completely, he is abandoned every day by those people. Every single day they don't care, they care about power, they care about money, they care about their next step, they don't care about the truth. And guess what, they will all fail. Every last single one of them will fail. I'm gonna get to some of your comments. U.S. flagpole guy writes John 14-6. Jesus said to him, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." I command the truth and protection over Candace, her family, and those who will not fall prey the demonic forces of evil in Jesus' name, Amen. Beautiful, Amen. Very scary Mary writes a small EMP could knock out security cameras for two minutes. Yeah, the EMP thinks certainly interesting. And like I said, baby, we learn now I want that information. Maybe we learned that it was just a crazy guy who says that all the time, but it's a very particular thing to say, especially when I told you that the security cameras did go out. They did go out for a couple of crucial minutes. Shortly before Charlie got hit. Seven sheets writes, "We share your sense of anger and injustice, battle but in pranks with the boy prayers and blessings. I also hope you feel a wave of indication and the knowledge that Charlie always knew it was you is David. We will always demand justice for him. Keep going, max God bless. That makes I don't know why it makes you very emotional, but yeah, it makes me sad and it makes me emotional because it's just like, you know, there were so many people that he helped to uplift in just in the same way that he did me and they all just don't care. It's all about money. And they do it while pretending to be Christians, which is the worst part. Like I said to my husband today that I, and I know I shouldn't say this, but I have to express it and that I hate these people after reading through that report. I hate these people for the year of gaslighting and the attempted psychological torture that they put me through, knowing that I was tongue with truth the whole time. Well, I just said, this is not how men's come together. Something's not right. The club president's request, they sit down, there's a meeting where should we go? What's them up? They just gaslit me for an entire year while I was grieving and they weren't grieving. None of them were grieving. I think in the future they will be grieving. Gel to mist technology locks in your look for up to 24 hours with flexible all-day comfy grip. Maybe it's Mabelie. Tony Hill writes, "Hi, cannabis. It's my birthday today." And you just made it so much better. I was so happy when I got off work and saw that you're alive today. I just wanted to say thank you for that gift and all that you do. I love you. As always, enjoy your weekend go max. Thank you, Tony. Have a very happy birthday. And you know, the speaking I'm going to dedicate myself to getting further into these documents and mapping out more people and committing myself as I have over the last year to justice for Charlie. Seven sheets rights we share. I'm sorry, Pam writes Pickles, Magoon. How was your nasty drip trip going? First superchap that I had to. This is the best Friday I've had in the long time. I love you, Candice. Keep pushing. It's paying off. It's funny because we had wondered at the beginning of this week what was with this random push about Fort Wachuka when we weren't discussing Fort Wachuka. And now we know, preemptive strike. Preemptive strike because we're just about to find out that the independent review says Brian Harper was a liar. Brian Harper was a liar. He lied about all this other stuff. But we should totally trust his lawyer filing a lawsuit against me who came to you multiple times and simply said, Hey, you got like an alibi for this time. I'm happy. I don't know if this guy Mitch. Story seems credible, but he probably maybe just saw a face and I thought it was you. I don't know. I never horse in the race. They always let you know when something is coming as devastating as a narrative because they start sending out to the rats and the cockroaches. It's an obvious pattern by now. Random attacks, very aggressive. I mean, this week I also had a random story completely unsure that I accepted tried to heavily imply the New York Post, you know, Israel's publication that I accepted $1.5 million from Harvey Weinstein to interview him. What are you talking about? Not a single red cent. So I accept from Harvey Weinstein. They ran this story anyways. After not contacting me at all. Despite having my PRs contact for years. Yeah, all of that was coming down for a reason. Just a love and life rights. Thank you, Canis, for never letting up on Charlie's investigation. Emergency live battle bond activated. We need truth and justice for Charlie. I have serious concerns about turning point USA. Follow every lead, Christ is King. Thank you for forever going, Max. Thank you. SJ rights July 10th was the request for UVU. How close to the UVU terrorist drill was this? Didn't they just do that drill around them? Keep going, Max. That drill was on June 17th. I should have included June because June was also when what did BB do in June? I actually have the timeline here. The one that goes above that. June was when Charlie got into it with BB at the White House. And then in that same day, Erica purged her Instagram. June 18th and 19th has been Charlie went to the White House and won the debate against the Zionist lobbyists regarding going to war with Iran. And then on June 19th, Erica purged her Instagram. And on June, yeah, that's leading up to June. And then we had Operation Midnight Hammer, which was Trump agreed to do to bomb Fordow and nuclear sites. Yeah. And then on June 26th, this one suddenly Claire Geenan writes her first article for Jezebel. She's going to be the one that writes the article about the witch's curse. She had no writing profile before that new writer. So that was a big week as well. You are correct. I mean, a big month as well. Rachel Meow writes principle. I did not read ahead. I swear I just downloaded the report to read a long promise, love from Houston. You can read ahead, read the entire document, do what I do, mark it up, highlight it, take notes, research on the side. That's what I'll be spending this weekend doing. We will speak more about that EMP threats that came in on the morning of. It's a very, very specific kind of threat. Like I said, perhaps that organization told the truth and it was nothing, but nothing is nothing to me. I have to explore every single lead and that seems very particular to me. Hopefully this review helps Blake sort through and start to remember some things that happened that day. And if nothing else, it certainly helps us to determine the character of the people who Charlie should ridden himself with. But in the end, I am fully confident that he woke up to what was happening. He was terrified, but he marched on anyway. And he knew that this was going to be the ending for him. And if there is something it's tragic and it's beautiful at the same time that Charlie still went ahead with the event. And things are going exactly as he thought. His death is leading to a wider awakening. Anyway, you guys that we're probably going to take Monday off. We might take a couple of days off here. What are we like just because I feel like I need to do a lot of research. And I want to make sure that we are dedicated to having accurate information. As I always say, you guys know if you like to support us, you can head to canisones.com. It's the easiest way. Sign up for a, join the book club. You can sign up for a whole membership. You can buy merch. And thank you guys for just, you know, being here with us in general on this journey. We will see you guys at some point next week. Imagine setting your makeup. Then forgetting it's even theirs. Meet new grippie setting mist from Maybelline New York. No tightness. No stickiness. No residue. Just plump, dewy hydrated skin. 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. An independent review of the September 10th Charlie Kirk event at UVU found no evidence of bad faith from UVU staff, but identified significant security and planning failures.
  2. Turning Point USA controlled key aspects of the event, including venue selection, ticketing, and security decisions, overriding university oversight and safety protocols.
  3. Critical security decisions—such as venue choice and crowd management—were made without input from UVU police or security teams, with no pre-event briefing or structured site walkthrough.
  4. Despite repeated outreach, key Turning Point USA personnel, including Dan Flood and Macy Crofts, did not respond to the independent review team, raising concerns about transparency and accountability.
  5. The review reveals that Turning Point USA provided misleading information to UVU, including false claims about drone usage and security threats, and failed to communicate real-time crowd size or risks.
  6. UVU police observed a massive crowd (estimated at 3,000) far exceeding the 600 reported by Turning Point USA, leading to an emergency response that occurred without prior coordination from security.
  7. Brian Harpole, a Turning Point USA security representative, made false statements in a public podcast, including claiming he had a pre-event meeting and that he had concerns about aerial threats, which contradicts evidence from the review.
  8. The report criticizes the lack of real-time security coordination, access control, and emergency preparedness, suggesting systemic failures in both university and organizational protocols.

Summary:

An independent review of the September 10, 2025, Charlie Kirk event at Utah Valley University (UVU) concludes that no UVU employee acted in bad faith, but identifies critical failures in planning, security, and communication. Turning Point USA exerted complete control over the event, including venue selection, ticketing, and security management, bypassing university protocols and safety oversight. Key personnel like Dan Flood and Macy Crofts, responsible for security and event coordination, did not respond to outreach from the review team, raising transparency concerns.

The review shows that Turning Point USA provided false or misleading information—such as drone usage and threat assessments—to UVU, and failed to communicate real-time crowd size, which escalated from an estimated 600 to over 3,000. UVU police discovered the crowd size during the event and requested additional security, but Turning Point USA offered no support or updates. There was no pre-event briefing, site walkthrough, or coordination between TPUSA security and UVU officials.

Brian Harpole, a TPUSA security representative, falsely claimed he had a pre-event meeting and made false statements about drone use and rooftop threats in a public interview, contradicting evidence from the review. The report highlights systemic vulnerabilities, including lack of real-time monitoring, poor access control, and absence of emergency planning, and calls for institutional reforms. It emphasizes that TPUSA’s centralized control and information suppression undermined campus safety, while the university’s failure to enforce oversight contributed to the security lapse.

The findings expose a pattern of disinformation and organizational negligence that contradicts claims of accidental or isolated failure.

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Yes, the transcription references an independent review conducted by a third-party group to assess security protocols and planning around the September 10th event at Utah Valley University.

The review concluded that no UVU employee or agent acted in bad faith or willfully disregarded safety, though it identified several lapses in security planning and decision-making that require improvement.

Turning Point USA controlled key decisions including venue selection, ticketing, and security logistics, with minimal coordination or communication with UVU safety officials.

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