We’re Back! And You’ll NEVER GUESS Who I Ran Into In Iceland. | Ep 380
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Candace Owens reflects on her personal and professional journey following the assassination of Charlie Kirk, emphasizing the emotional and psychological toll it took on her. She credits her survival and resilience to unwavering support from friends like John and Arena Mappen, who stood by her with truth and integrity during a time of intense media manipulation and personal crisis. Owens exposes a deep-rooted conspiracy involving government agencies, including the Pentagon and State Department, that has launched a coordinated propaganda campaign against her and the investigation into Kirk’s death. This campaign, she claims, is orchestrated by figures like Jennica Pounds and Blake Neff, who promote false narratives and use digital tools to discredit her, all while being backed by powerful institutions. Despite the overwhelming pressure, Owens remains steadfast, drawing on biblical parallels to affirm that truth and perseverance ultimately prevail over organized misinformation and political suppression. She celebrates the resilience of those who stand up for truth, especially in the face of powerful opposition, and highlights how grassroots support—both personal and collective—has been essential to her recovery. The narrative concludes with a powerful message of hope: just as David defeated Goliath, the pursuit of truth will triumph, and those who remain committed to honesty and integrity will continue to win. She also touches on broader themes of justice, including the abuse of power in entertainment lawsuits (like the Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni case) and the need for personal preparedness, such as through first-aid kits. Throughout, Owens reaffirms her dedication to transparency, truth, and the protection of vulnerable individuals, including unborn babies, while urging her audience to remain vigilant, critical, and united in the face of disinformation.
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all right you guys happy monday i missed you i am back i'm back i can now reveal to you that i
actually went up to iceland to do some fishing for my seven year anniversary george and i are
really big into fishing and we had this trip to book since i think again last year or something
and i have to tell you that i was mildly concerned when i saw rumple silskin known to some people as
rabbi schmooly up in iceland as well as ivanka and jared kushner just before we were going to go a
couple of weeks ago and i was like oh my god i'm going to go to iceland and i'm going to go to
i was worried that maybe ivanka had swam and discovered another island and that rabbi schmooly
was going to clear it out for her but all is well that ends well i caught my first salmon on the fly
i'll tell you about that feeling very proud of myself well fought well won and ladies and
gentlemen while i was away some things were revealed about our government actually still
trending right now remember way back when on october 27th of last year
when i said this so allow me to be very explicit okay i want war with all of you okay all of you
well it turns out that the trump administration heard the call and they took me literally
because it was revealed that the department of war has people on payroll that are attacking me
for my investigation into charlie kirk's assassination that's weird donald trump and
charlie were friends don't they want to know who killed them uh guys if i didn't know any better i
would say that the reason they're putting those people on payroll could be because they killed
them they killed charlie kirk but i do i know better i am sure that's not the case can you
imagine our tax dollars are going toward fighting a propaganda war against me it's absolute madness
anyway i have a positive story to share with you about who i ran into in iceland you are not
going to believe it it truly is unbelievable but it happened welcome back to candace
iceland the land of the vikings my people okay not really i'm kidding my ancestors are not actually
from iceland but i had a fantastic time in iceland and i'm going to tell you a story about
anyway it was my very first time in the country really we went there because we love to fish
there also is a direct flight from nashville who knew and i was especially excited after they
effectively chased rabbi shmuley out weeks earlier shout out to that individual who was like get out
of our country peace um now why was i there like i told you at the top each and every pregnancy
actually george and i take a little fishing excursion it's just our thing today is actually
our seven year anniversary
so it was in fact a special occasion made even more special for a couple of reasons first and
foremost like i said i caught my very first atlantic salmon on the fly if you are a fisher
woman or fisherman you know that is a big deal okay i'm going to show you here she is this
picture it was a big one really big one i was so i was jumping up and down couldn't believe that i
had done it i should also add here that there is this islantic tradition that goes along with that
accomplishment i learned about that at dinner wherein they take the fin of the fish for your
first catch on the fly and they make you swallow it in a shot glass so i partook in this viking
culture i'm very proud of myself now for expectant mothers i will tell you that i don't know what is
in those salmon fins up in iceland but my unborn child proceeded to kick for about 24 hours
thereafter like he was at a rave party it was unrelenting
take from that what you will maybe i will now give birth to a viking who knows but actually the best
part of the trip was the company so george and i went and met up with our friends john and arena
mappen now those names may be familiar to you now i've told you guys the story a few times but i
met my husband rather serendipitously at an event hosted in london i was with charlie
the event was hosted by john and arena back in 2018 and me and charlie were on stage
george did not know them he had never met them he heard that charlie and i were coming to town
and he phoned them up because his friend who was supposed to go to the event was like i can't go do
you want to go see if john will allow you to go and he said george was heavily involved in brexit
at that time so he was politically inclined and he wanted to come hear me and charlie speak so he
called them up and said can i come they said yes and the rest is future now to jog your memory
beyond that
john and arena have been some of among the most vociferous i should say supporters
from the very beginning of the charlie kirk investigation my investigation
and it should be known that they were close to charlie they helped to bring charlie and
turning point usa to the next level by making introductions for charlie that i would say
launched the organization into a different stratosphere financially they made those intros
they also know or knew
i guess erica kirk very well i don't know how much they keep in touch with her now
but in fact the four of them went to israel charlie and erica and john and arena went to
israel they were invited by them to go they also know mikey mccoy very well they adore mikey
actually and anyway i'm saying all that just to express that they played an extremely significant
role in keeping me sane following charlie's assassination because they knew the players and they
were not biased one way or the other upon reflection i i believe that there was a very
obvious and intentional effort to drive me to the point of insanity to uh bring me to the point that
britney spears was in back in 2007 when she just shaved her head off because she was reaching this
moment where the constant this vicious headlines the media cycle was driving her mad and let me
get murdered and then watch the people that she thought were his friends lie about what he believed
who his friends were uh then attempt to gaslight me into believing that i wasn't actually friends
with him no ben was actually friends with him you weren't you secretly hated him or depending on
what week it was you secretly loved him you secretly wanted him well john and arena were
the only people who were around charlie were a presence in his life and he was a person who was
a part of his life who were astute enough to recognize in that moment what john described to me
was a black propaganda campaign and he said this is psychological and i don't know why this campaign
is happening to you but it is happening to you they obviously knew me and charlie's friendship
and they dared to openly question the narrative meaning donors have come to me in private
and spoken about what they believe to be weird but they were exceptional in the fact that they
were authoring pieces questioning the narrative openly and they were also offering pieces questioning
the narrative openly and they were also offering pieces questioning the narrative openly and they
really asserting what was at stake with this assassination this investigation you guys might
recall specifically a piece that they published on october 6th because i read it on my show in
its entirety which touched a lot of people worldwide we were flooded with emails the
piece was entitled candace owens charlie kirk and the pursuit of truth and in part they wrote
this i'm going to just reread this little part it says quote charlie's execution is an assassin
is an assassin with potentially far-reaching political consequences for america and the world
what we have seen so far beggar's belief a crime scene apparently completely destroyed in days and
plenty of evidence that simply does not seem to add up this investigation and the truthful answer
as to who was really responsible for deciding that charlie would be executed in front of the world
will affect america's future its collective soul and conscience forever the truth when known and
we believe it will be known will have an impact on the future of america's future and the future of
america will have far-reaching international consequences the very idea that someone could
be convicted and could receive the death penalty when there remains even the slightest shadow of a
doubt or a shred of uncertainty that they may not be guilty of that crime and that christian souls
would tolerate that possibility is anathema to all the teachings of christ and quote so powerful to
reflect on and to reread you should reread it in its entirety and i remember when i received those
words i was extremely shocked and i was like oh my god i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry
and it meant so much to me their words gave me the strength to keep going to get up to keep
fighting i'm obviously not in that fragile state anymore and it is in large part thanks to their
friendship to the people that i didn't know around the world and it's really been my experience that
uh when i am with them i have not i could probably count on one hand how many times i've seen john
arena obviously because the distance how we met uh the strange circumstance of me telling charlie
we need to go to the uk and i'm like oh my god i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm so sorry
okay just find someone who will put together an event all of this happening by the way in the
same few weeks
that Erica first lays eyes on Charlie.
Charlie's having dreams about his death.
It was a crazy time, May of 2018,
to think that I was like, I need to go to the UK.
That's the dream that I was having.
And Charlie's having dreams about his death.
And then we both meet who will become our significant other.
It's something to reflect on.
And I will say that in the few times
that I have actually physically been able to see John in Arena,
I always find that something beyond chance occurs.
Something just always seems to manifest.
You go, how could this have possibly happened?
Like meeting my husband, who I literally,
I see them rarely, but I met my husband,
who did not know them.
He did not know me.
And it was this chance night with Charlie Kirk,
then followed by an 18-day engagement
that people still do not accept.
Anyway, on the morning of our departure
from the fishing lodge,
I was sitting in the breakfast area with Arena.
And for the first time,
really expressing and truly thanking
her and John for their friendship
during what has been clearly
the most difficult year of my life.
And we're coming up now
to the one-year anniversary of Charlie's death.
I'm reflecting on that.
For the majority of this past year,
I can now appreciate that I was just in survival mode.
So researching, it felt like the only thing I could do,
the only way that I could get control of the situation
was to explore every single thing that happened on that day.
And during that time,
I could not even bring myself to thank them
for their unwavering support.
Because I was so fragile that even uttering the words,
thank you for your support,
would have meant sort of acknowledging
the state of pain that I was in.
I don't know if that makes sense,
but I was just,
I need to put one foot in front of the other and survive
and not acknowledge the fact that I'm surviving.
Iceland allowed me an opportunity to sort of reflect
on what and who it was that sustained me
through that critical time.
And you guys get it.
I mean, when people are going through it,
really going through it,
they just have to try to breathe, keep going.
And on the other side of that is people who are giving
aren't even looking for a thank you.
That's what I realized.
Speaking of John and Irina,
like they were at no point were they going like,
is Candace going to thank us?
To them, it just made sense.
They're just doing the right thing.
They're telling the truth.
They don't even consider that they're saving a life,
so to speak.
Anyway, I finished this conversation with Irina
and then me and John,
and me and George get into the car
and we begin to head back to the airport.
And it's about a two hour drive
from the lodge to the airport.
And we're in this deep conversation
about how grateful we are
for having made it through the year.
Honestly, the last two years have been kind of crazy.
And we're thinking about all of the people.
I'm even speaking about the emails that we received
that sustained me.
People like you back at home,
you will never know how many of your emails
I never responded to,
but I read the prayers that were sent,
that I read, I received,
and they comforted me.
And now I feel sort of nursed back to myself.
Fast forward, me and George
are sitting down at the airport
after having reflected this whole morning of gratitude.
And we're waiting to board our flight back home.
And George gets up first and he gets into line
and tells me,
you just keep sitting until the last second
because I didn't want to be standing unnecessarily
with my luggage because I'm fat and I'm pregnant.
I'm tired.
And he can stand better during this time.
Finally, he calls my name.
Because they're about to begin the boarding process.
I get up, I get into line
and I'm standing directly behind a woman.
And as soon as I see her face,
I'm like, oh, I know her.
And I instantly start doing that thing,
like going, scanning the face index in my mind,
thinking first that she was a retired model.
I'm like, is this like a Gisele Bundchen type character?
She's very pretty, no makeup on.
And I kid you not,
as soon as it clicks for me who she is
and her jaw hits the floor,
and my jaw hits the floor,
and I look up, I see her husband.
Ladies and gentlemen, in Iceland,
I got in line behind Justin Baldoni,
my literal, actual, long lost cousin.
Look at this.
I could not even believe this.
Look at this picture.
This is crazy, okay?
Crazy.
You could not make this up.
I actually wish that I was a mathematician
so that I could work out
the impossible odds of this occurring, okay?
It's a weekday.
We are in a country of only 400,000 people.
Okay, Justin himself was not visiting Iceland.
Okay, turns out he was on a layover from Sweden.
That's where his wife is from.
That's why she's so pretty.
And he's there with their two children.
It's not a traditional holiday week or vacation week.
So it's not like we're running into a bunch of people.
It's just, it's not like people are traveling worldwide.
My husband and I, we were just,
we were all just astonished.
Beyond belief, how could this be happening in this country?
And you have to remember, I've never met Justin.
I've never spoken to him or his wife.
I've never even tried to reach out to them even once.
Like truly, I got involved in the case
because I just couldn't believe what I was reading
when I went through a lawsuit.
I just had a suspicion.
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And I'll be frank with you guys
because way back when I was interning for Glamour Magazine,
Blake Lively had the, she had the front cover
and the person that I was working for worked on the shoot
and she said Blake Lively was awful.
It was like her least favorite person to work with.
So I wasn't passing.
It wasn't passing the sniff test.
And when I read through the documents
of what was happening in that lawsuit,
I was just astonished.
And I have to tell you this,
even now because we have so much has happened
since the Blake and Justin lawsuit,
I had to remind myself of the absurdity of that case, right?
You have this man who read a book series, loved it,
truly appreciated the work of the author,
bought it with her, purchased the rights
to create a film about the books using his movie studio.
This is like a passion project to him
that he wants to do for women
who have been in domestic violence relationships.
He then casts a woman who he is a fan of
as the lead character, Blake Lively,
an A-lister by proxy, by proxy,
meaning her best friend happens to be
the most famous person in the world, ex-best friend,
Taylor Swift.
Her husband is Ryan Reynolds,
who is apparently the best friend in the world.
He's apparently a routine psychopath
who has been cosplaying a superhero
throughout the Marvel movies.
And what happens next?
They just decide that they want to take his movie,
that it's their right to have it
because they are them and they're shinier
and or something, A-listier or something.
And then we learned throughout our investigative series
that despite being cast as the main character,
Blake Lively sort of in her own head
fancied herself as the writer.
She sought to sort of edit the scripts,
the, and they had the media power
to do it.
Like the New York Times just drops a hit piece
and they're like, we will just, me too you.
We'll ruin your whole life
or you're going to hand over the rights to this movie.
And she want, that's what she wanted.
And it's difficult to comprehend that level of narcissism
when you go backward in your mind.
And I'm now so reminded of the more hysterical aspects
of a lawsuit, like Blake's implicit threat
when she got started.
Taylor Swift is there.
If she doesn't get what she wants,
she's going to release her dragons.
Like Taylor's one.
One of her dragons.
If you ever get around to watching Game of Thrones,
I'm Khaleesi.
I have a few dragons.
It's so crazy.
It's so crazy.
We're all going to benefit
from these gorgeous little monsters of mine.
So loony, dude.
It was so crazy what this woman did to him.
Also, please don't forget,
in her filing, in her CCRD filing,
because first she filed that civil complaint,
she even accused Justin's business partner,
Jamie Heath, of showing her pornography on his phone.
Like she looked and a woman's legs were open.
And she said, to add insult to injury,
this is from the filing,
to add insult to injury,
Mr. Heath approached Miss Lively and her assistant on set
and started playing a video of a fully nude woman
with her legs spread apart.
Miss Lively thought that he was showing her pornography
and stopped him.
And these were like the parts that were pulled
by the camera.
And then, of course, we learn later on in this filing
that it was actually a birthing video.
He showed her a birthing video
because Blake was preparing to do a birthing scene.
They thought that it might be helpful.
Like no one ever watched a woman give birth
and thought this is pornography.
It's just so nutty to reflect on.
And them making Justin Baldoni sit in the basement
during the premiere of his own movie
because Blake said so
and she didn't want to see it.
And they made the best of it.
And it really wasn't that great
to be next to bottled Dasani water.
It's not even good water.
It's disgusting water.
They couldn't even give them good water
to sit in the basement with.
And he just did it.
And he had so much class.
I also was reflecting with my team on Ryan Reynolds
then reshooting the scenes of Deadpool,
incorporating a character
that was supposed to be Justin Baldoni called Nice Pool
and then having him overkilled in the scene.
Remember?
poured hundreds of bullets into his
back. And it just kept going and going and going. And then like the character's head explodes.
Totally crazy. And again, just full-blown A-list power. This is how it's going to go,
like a mafia of sorts ruining this man's life or attempting to ruin this man's life.
Anyway, you'll probably want to know what was said. And I want to tell you the most important
aspects because there were just so many people who were giving themselves to this case, going
through the filings. There was no upside other than this is wrong and we should do something.
Steph with the deets, Marcos of the Be Better Company, people who sank into every filing on
their own time because we all just sensed that it mattered. And what was so beautiful about this
moment, which again, I kind of forgot about for a long time because the Charlie Kirk assassination
happened and I was obviously compelled a different way, but it was kind of the first fracturing of
this sort of left versus right thing.
And after I had just poured all of this gratitude into Arena and seeing Justin and his wife,
and they were just explaining to me just how grateful they were, like how close they were
to hitting rock bottom. And the same exact feeling that I felt when I received the letter from John
and Arena, the public letter that they wrote, they were just in a state. And then people started
making videos on the internet and actually reading the paperwork and investigating this. And they
didn't understand what was going on. And so I was like, okay, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this.
And they didn't understand why this was happening. They didn't know what had motivated good people to
stand up and to do something. And he was interested in that, asking me what motivated me. And truly,
I told him, I just remember that Blake Lively was awful and I wasn't buying this victim act. And
I've been following Taylor Swift and I know how she moves. And I knew that friendship was going
to be over. And when I got into it, I just couldn't look away. And so I was just being
and I had mentioned to him how disturbed I was by the Deadpool scene. And he told me he never even
watched the Deadpool movie or the scene, which makes sense because when you're in that sort of
a mode and like in a survival mode, you're not going to do that. You're not going to like engage
in things that are just going to be even worse. And we just discussed how much he learned and how
much he grew and how much he challenged himself. And he's still so nice, guys. He's like, my husband
just goes, he's so nice. I'm like, yeah, that's why I had to like watch him. And he's like, yeah,
my pregnant, I just go down to the playground and stand up for my cousin because I was like,
this is not happening on my watch. I'm not that nice when I get pregnant with a boy and I'm at
the end of pregnancy, which I was when this was all going down. You remember I was pregnant with
Roman and it was a boy and I was just, it was like, it couldn't happen. I just had to fight
somebody. And he was just so sweet, so kind, so grateful. His wife is like, I just did not need
to see someone that pretty without makeup when I'm this fat and pregnant. Like,
they were, the way that I would describe them, they radiate goodness. That's a very strange thing
to say. And I mean this truly. They radiate goodness. Like they had nothing bad to say
about anybody. They were just so grateful and they wished that they could just go out and thank
every single person who just stood up for them and just not even stood up for them, just told
the truth. There's not, there's not really standing up for people when you're just telling the truth,
you know, and that's how it feels. And,
it was just this amazing thing to happen where I was going, I wish I could reach out to all of
you guys and thank you for this past year. And then I have these people reminding me that
sometimes we are the, we are that person who's helping somebody and we don't even think of it
that way. He did tell me one thing that was really disturbing and I have to share it.
He doesn't actually drink kombucha. He's not a big kombucha drinker. So I kind of wrote this
little piece of fan fiction and I'm like, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
I will not accept it. I feel like he will forever be a kombucha drinker in our minds.
And he's fine with the fact that he owns me kombucha, but he's a kombucha drinker. That is,
we have written that into the history of this case. Justin Baldoni loves kombucha. He drinks
it every single day. I would not accept that bit of truth in this story. Anyway, the point that I
wanted to make to you guys about what felt like this almost divine meeting in Iceland is my
takeaway from it was all of this noise was happening in the background. I didn't really care about things
that were trending and people that were, you know, have are being sent. And there's so much to discuss
in terms of the Department of War and what's going on. But what it really demonstrated to me was just
this reminder that we can win, like we can win even when the odds seem insurmountable, when people
claim that they have dragons. And in many ways, that really was the lesson for me and all of this
and all of us in the Justin case. He was up against an established power. I mean, it was in New York
Times. It was double the power. It was double
WME. It was the most powerful PR people in the world, the most famous woman in the world who was, I guess, a part of this peer pressure campaign or not, according to her version. Who knows who's telling the truth? Blake Taylor. But what was done to him was positively cruel and it was done out of sports. The truth was enough to fix it. The Baldoni case sort of represented that first blow to the left right paradigm. And suddenly it seemed like there was something more
evil that needed to be addressed. And our political skirmishes would have to sort of wait. We all just
sort of went, wait a minute. Did someone just kick a puppy in the mouth for no reason? That's what that
was what that case was. Kicking a puppy in the mouth for no reason because you can and you can't
get in trouble because you're very powerful. And we agreed that it wasn't OK. And we all teamed up
and we were relentless, really completely relentless in what John and Arena describe as
the pursuit of truth. I just I wanted to leave you with that positive message today. It felt like the
end of that case. It just all came together. I've just been in such a positive mood lately.
I want to leave you guys with that biblical reminder that David won against Goliath. David
won with a sling and some stones and insurmountable odds. He took down a giant. And I feel in that way
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So we are all recognizing right now that there are a ton of chaos agents that have suddenly been
put into the Twitterverse to distract, to pull people away, truly from the investigation. I want
you guys to know that. Stay focused, okay? The Andrew Wilsons, you should probably just ignore
of the world. They know nothing. We don't know how they're getting paid or where their money is
coming from. But we had suggested this, that this looks like a very well-funded campaign. I almost
would say it looks like a military campaign, like a psychological operation. Well, a funny thing
happened while I was away. I learned. The Pentagon is apparently at war with me. Now, you will remember, particularly during the week
of Tyler Robbins' preliminary hearing, I was in Spain, okay? I took two weeks off for the summer,
and yet there was a full-blown media assault that was executed against me on behalf of Turning Point
USA, actually in particular on behalf of Erica. A new narrative had dropped. You would have thought
that I was on trial and not Tyler Robinson, that I was on trial for murder, for having investigated
Charlie's assassination. They were like, that is akin to getting Erica Kirk killed. It began with
that absurd NCRI-issued report. It's just a team of Zionists. You got to see NCRI led by none other
than Andrew Colbett's former partner of a PR firm, Cairo's company. And they called that report
permission to kill and referred to me as a digital assassin. You can't get over
how insanely precise the timing of that was. The person that they're claiming,
assassinated Charlie Kirk
goes on trial.
They drop this article
saying,
this report on the first day. And then we have this report being mysteriously expanded upon
by a woman named Jennica Pounds, okay? Known online as Data Republican. So let me tell you
about Jennica first before I tell you how we learned that the Pentagon is behind this. Jennica
Pounds is a Utah software engineer who really, and I just want to focus on this picture of her
actually for a second, because I would like to assert that this could be the person coming up
the staircase at UVU. This, she could look like, if she put her hair in a ponytail and put on a hat
and put those glasses down, I would be just as convinced. Like I said, just a standard
Caucasian person, put a hat on her, we have the person walking up the steps at UVU.
Anyway, she kind of gets a little jet fuel because Elon Musk promotes her in 2025,
Data Republican on X. She created a, we're supposed to think that she's some wizard.
I feel like all these people are just, you know, being programmed by the government. She's some
data wizard. And she's looking at government spending and Elon Musk is like, this is our girl.
She's telling us where all the money's going. And lo and behold, we have Jennica Pounds,
Data Republican has kind of hit the map. Anyway, she jumps in after this report is released and
immediately does a threat. And she does a threat. And
a threat that is boosted by Andrew Kovac. Let's show her thread first, just so you can see how
absurd this was. Like, okay, you're doing data. How are you doing data on me being a digital
assassin? She basically says the report is basically saying the report is legitimate.
Let me show you how Candace targets her audience and Erica's authority. It's crazy. Here is Candace
and her audience in their own words. And then she's going to start showing random people on
the internet. And these people could, by the way, work for the Pentagon. So when people are
threatening Erica on the internet, it's totally plausible that they are going to do that. And
they actually are working on behalf of the Pentagon so that they can have the data that
they can then expand upon. So you can see how long this thread is, how deep she went into the
30-06 stuff. And she's speaking about how I work on people and eventually people are going to wake
up one day and want to kill Erica. That's kind, that was the narrative that was seeded, instantly
retweeted by Andrew Kovac, which we'll just think he has nothing to do with this, right? Of course
he does. Wow. He writes, thank you, Data Republican, for doing this. This thread exposed
how Candace and her ilk have created the requisite permission structure for some lunatic to try and
kill Erica. They're accusing me of murdering Erica for investigating her husband's murder.
This is beyond, okay? So beyond that, in this very same day, oh, actually three days later,
Bill Ackman promotes Data Republican, an important read on Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens. I bet,
I bet. You're always a little too close to the situation, Bill. What is it about the Charlie
Kirk assassination that just keeps bringing you out of the woodwork? It's something. Bill Ackman,
you're a billionaire. What are you, why are you retweeting Data Republican and what everybody
is registering as bizarre propaganda that's meant to essentially say that investigating
the investigation is what's wrong? People saw right through this, okay? Well,
Data Republican looks to be mildly unstable, and it turns out that she is. And she accidentally
revealed that she got very paranoid. She was working on a piece, and the State Department
was leaking to her. A woman named Sarah Rogers, who is the undersecretary and works in the State
Department, was leaking to her. Sarah Rogers gave her something, and Data Republican,
Jenica Pounds, got paranoid about it, okay? And she thought that she was being set up,
that they were leaking her piece. And she thought that she was being set up,
that they could charge her with a crime. So she then reveals that Sarah Rogers is leaking to her.
And Sarah Rogers just happens to be besties with Blake Neff, okay? So let me show you Sarah Rogers
and Blake Neff, the picture of them. Blake Neff gets into the foray. So now we realize that
Turning Point USA is working with the State Department, okay? This is him just writing about
their friendship. My friend Sarah Rogers is one of Charlie's favorite Trump nominees. She was
sworn in last Friday as the undersecretary for public diplomacy at the State Department. Her
chief goal will be promoting free speech around the world. So this trash bag, Sarah, was leaking
to Data Republican, and she got, Data Republican got, like, paranoid and then outed the fact that
she was doing it. And then she couldn't put the genie back in the bottle. And then she admits that
Data Republican admits, Jenica Pounds admits, that she's working for the Department of War.
She's been working for the Pentagon since July. The very week that they came after me,
she was working as a special government employee. She wrote,
I began working as a special government employee for the Department of War in July
to serve the country in a more hands-on way. And what she means is to serve the Department of War
in propagandizing Americans not to look into Charlie Kirk's assassination. That's what she
means. That's what she's saying, but this is what she means. She writes,
I began working just to have press credentials there, and I did not seek to renew those
credentials. I currently am not a member of the Pentagon press corps and no longer attend
briefings or events as a journalist because she is a Pentagon special government employee. And
this all came out because she had a little freakout and thought that she was being set up.
By the way, not particularly a freakout given how duplicitous these people are. If you're dealing
with anybody with Blake Neff, I'd be paranoid too. You probably did the right thing, Jenica Pounds,
by outing yourself.
As a positive, absolute scumbag and dishonest human being who was not, were not attacking me
because you were looking at the data. Apparently she also set up an institute for herself. So
somebody should look into who's funding her. I'd make a guess that Bill Ackman maybe is cutting
a check somewhere somehow in the background of this. And she gets this special employee benefit
and instantly comes from me and is a part of, part and partial of people that are trying to
push this narrative, which we now know is being backed by the State Department.
The Department of War, Blake Neff and Andrew Colvett allies. So the question remains, why?
Why is the investigation into who killed Charlie Kirk something that the State Department and the
Department of War would be interested in controlling the narrative on if they were
all friends of Charlie? Wouldn't they be joining us and trying to help us and not launching
propaganda wars against us with made up data reports that reflect nothing other than the
fact that anybody will sell their soul to get next to power? As Jenica Pounds did. Jenica Pounds is
based in Utah. Where was Jenica Pounds on September 10th? I find, where's the positive evidence? This
is what they're doing. They are accusing us of exactly what they are doing, right? They are
putting a target on my back while accusing me of putting a target on Erica's back. And it's the
Department of War. That is so incredibly sinister, but it's important for us to know what we are up
against. And I want to be clear.
We'll win. I said I want a war with all of you. I didn't expect it to be the literal Department of
War. But I'm up for the challenge. Because like I said, from the moment that Charlie was shot,
I knew that he was betrayed, but I also knew that the people who betrayed him wouldn't get
away with it. And the more that stuff like this comes out, the less likely it is that you're
going to get away with it. And I have explosive things to reveal to you for the rest of the week,
which is going to reveal that Turning Point USA has some explaining.
to do. Everybody's alibis are in. Can't change them now, right? You can't change them now. You
can't go back. Or you could, the story is just going to have to get more ridiculous. It's going
to get fun because the story of September 10th is going to have to just get so much more ridiculous
until, I don't know, you guys are crushed by the weight of your own lies and inconsistencies.
I don't know. Anyway, something that was pretty funny was TPUSA announced their new lineup,
their new tour,
which sounds like a Jennifer Lopez 2000 song. It's called Love It or Leave It.
I'd like to leave it. Thank you. And it is basically the Daily Wire. That's what's
happening. I mean, there are some older names, Michael Knowles, obviously, Brandon Tatum. They
have traditionally toured with Turning Point USA. Beyond that, we're kind of getting the Chihuahua,
Alex Clark and Ben Shapiro. Now we know why they were trying to hard explain to us that Ben Shapiro
was friends with Charlie.
He wants the company. He's like, I, I, mine has failed. That one looks pretty. I'm a parasite. I'd
like to be here. He wants to pick up that bloody mic and he, by golly, he's going to do it. They're
also trying to launch this like obscure weirdo, Matt Nuclear, who works for the Daily Wire and
has just been a tragic mistake of a hire. First and foremost, because if you didn't look into it,
he got caught. He's like one of these people that has struck up a real relationship with Claude and
ChatGPT.
Like asks him, hey, what do you think about me? Do you like my shirt, Claude? Do you think that
like I'm well? It's like the movie Her. Something weird about that kid. Also, allegedly, I'll say
allegedly. But there's a whole news article you can look up about his arrest back in Florida.
I think it was how many years ago was it? His arrest in Florida for threatening to
making terroristic threats against a daycare. Now he's on tour with Turning Point USA.
because he's going to be a debater.
are just really scraping the bottom of the barrel. This company is over. I'm just going to be frank
with you. Erica Kirk, to me, I describe her, when she speaks, I feel like my soul is being sucked.
She is a dementor that should be guarding Azkaban, okay? Every time she speaks, I just feel depressed.
I do. She says like this, and I'm like, oh my gosh, I just feel like a prisoner in Azkaban,
and my soul is being sucked. She can't lead this company. She doesn't have the spark. She doesn't
have the intelligence. She doesn't even have the emotional intelligence, right? Forget IQ. She
doesn't have the EQ to run this company. It is being run into the ground. People are rightfully
outraged that they would partner with his enemies. Who even cares at this point? We get it. They are
his enemies. Everyone knows what Turning Point USA is and what these people are, and unfortunately,
what's going to happen now is an organization is going to rise, take its place, but
I do think
that's the way it's going to be.
That's what Charlie would have wanted. I do, and it's a strange thing to think that, but
what is not authentic and what it has become, what it is pushing, it's to push against the ideas
that Charlie himself expressed, what he believes in, the idea of partnering with the Department
of War to propagandize Americans rather than winning the debate honestly because you told
the truth and you had the better idea. Who cares? Who cares about what happens at Turning
And Ben Shapiro, have it, have at it.
You will have no influence
because you already have no influence.
That's the reason you wanted it
because you thought you could just take it over
and wear it like a skin suit.
You guys are so gross.
But like I said, what it's meant to be will be
and be happy we are winning.
David won.
That's the point, right?
David won against Goliath.
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I also want to remind you guys
that we told you about the email,
which was from the Department of War,
calling Erica an emotional asset
the night of the fake Trump number three
or four or five, six shooting that happened
during the White House Correspondents' Dinner.
And we have basically just been getting
just steel-walled, I'm going to say.
It was like brick walls been put up between us
at these FOIA requests that we're filing
and they keep only saying,
it didn't come from this department.
Okay, we are asking you if this email is real.
This is not hard to answer yes or no.
We have to keep filing.
But this just further proves our point.
It has been the Department of War
that has been behind Erica.
And she thinks that she's going to win
by just having sheer power behind her.
And that's just not going to be the circumstance.
She's, in fact, in many ways,
she's already lost because she had that perspective.
As soon as you get in your head
that you're too big to fail
and you don't have to come down,
you view yourself as some sort of a queen
that has too many people in your Rolodex
that are going to back you up,
you lose, you lose.
Charlie was very much a person
who got down in the trenches
and connected with people.
But he also told the truth.
And Erica seems,
is unwilling to do that.
Andrew Colvett seems unwilling to do that.
And Blake Neff is the least believable person in the world.
So glad to know that you guys think
that having the State Department
and the Department of War behind you
is going to win the game.
And billionaires like Bill Ackman
who are willing to promote your nonsense.
But we see right through all of it.
Top comments from last episode
before we went off air.
Big Hair Do Care wrote,
the way she drops these bombs
and then goes on vacation.
Get excited because this week
we have a lot of bombs
and we will not be going right on vacation.
But we are in the countdown.
Before I go on maternity leave.
Well, you've got me for the next six weeks.
DM Uncut wrote,
I just know they're at home.
Like, where is she getting these videos from?
I've been telling you guys, man,
the Holy Spirit has been on the move.
People have been encouraged
for a while to be brave.
Even like I said,
at a point when I was very weak
and we have been going backward
in the investigation,
looking back at everything.
And braveness inspires other people to be brave.
This is something that I have really found out
throughout this investigation.
So if you do have another piece of the puzzle,
please do email us,
moretipsatcanisowens.com.
We've been interested in a lot of different angles.
Maybe you work inside the State Department
and would like to tell us some stuff.
Whistleblower, I don't know how it works.
Please do email us.
Yeah, we're closing in though.
I feel confident in what we have this week.
It's going to be a bad week
and you're not going to distract me
with nonsense from Andrew Wilson.
We see you guys.
I love that.
I love that.
I love that they're using him as their dog though,
as their attack dog though,
because it just further reveals to parents
what this organization is.
Like, why would you want this organ,
to have your children working for an organization
that purports to be Christian
while using attack dogs throughout government
and now scraping the bottom of the barrel
with people that are more suited
to be on reruns of Jerry Springer?
That's just, it's not going to work.
Everyone can perceive this fraud.
And then you're going to get up there and go,
the Lord, the Lord, the Lord.
But it's not going to work.
You're going to have to say it like you're a dementor
and we don't know who the Lord is
and it might be Voldemort.
Like, that's scary for a lot of people.
It feels like a scary movie.
Yeah.
Anyway, comments from today's episode.
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True Detective writes,
my heart breaks for Charlie knowing
what he discovered during his last days
that something demonic had infiltrated his inner circle.
I agree with you.
That a dark force written about in ancient texts
had actually manifested in his life.
Now that he was a prominent voice in politics,
my heart finds peace knowing that he told evil no.
Matthew 16, 25.
I totally agree with you.
That was the heartbreak of it.
We just know that he knew in the end.
And I can't imagine what that squeeze felt like.
And to know that he had texted multiple people
on September 9th saying that he wanted me back.
They will never tell the truth about that.
I know for a fact it's true.
And he, yeah, I knew he would come to
on what was happening to his organization.
I saw it a little earlier than he did,
but he got there not far after me.
I mean, that was the whole basis of the last year
of discussions that we had since October 7th.
And moving forward,
I think he started to see those people in a different way,
how radical they were and how unrelenting they would be
to destroy anyone who didn't go along with the narrative.
Natty Nicole writes that picture with Justin Baldoni.
God is so good.
I love being on the winning side.
I can't get over it.
And I just want you guys to know he just,
exactly what we thought he was
when we were just going through his Instagram.
And I was just getting angrier at how nice he was.
And then when we,
read his messages and every time Blake was so mean
and Justin was just nice and it was so frustrating
because I was so pregnant and I was like,
no, this is not what you say to someone
that's trying to take your movie.
He is just so nice.
We took the right side in that
and we all deserve to just acknowledge
that, you know, we stood up for truth.
We just shared the truth.
Like I said, not even standing up.
I mean, wouldn't let it go.
And we just,
we're not here to watch a puppy get kicked in the mouth.
We just got to come together
when we see puppies getting kicked in the mouth, right?
Okay.
Damn you, Jen.
Damn you, Jen, maybe?
I hope I'm saying that right.
David's real test wasn't Goliath.
It was Saul, his own king, his own government.
That is your challenge.
So well said.
I'm up for the challenge because I got you guys.
You guys are the homies.
You've helped me.
And again, I will never get over expressing my gratitude.
And I will never have the words to tell you
what it meant to be at such a low moment
and to really need to rely on
honestly, perfect strangers to give me the push. The other content creators who got involved and
investigated it, who didn't know Charlie, even people who didn't like Charlie, who showed more
respect to his legacy than the people that he worked with every single day, who lie, just lie.
Tucker Carlson is not slated to speak. Ben Shapiro is. There's something so sick about it,
but it's now laughably sick, where you can just go, okay, this is all fake. The whole thing is
that you're going to get a bunch of yaff people to come in, pay them to come hear him speak,
to pretend like you've taken over the youth movement. I mean, it's just, you should laugh
at it. In that regard, we already won. Again, not referencing everybody that's on that list.
Like I said, Brandon Tatum has been speaking for them for a very long time, as has Michael Knowles,
but it is hard to see, to look at the rest. Alaska Dog Lady writes, when I think I can't,
I love you anymore. Fisherwoman to Fisherwoman, congratulations. And next year,
might I suggest silver salmon in Alaska? It's the season. I did do silver salmon,
not in Alaska, in British Columbia. There was a picture that I think I showed you guys of me
and Charlie holding that massive salmon. I did very well, actually. I won the weekend for the
heaviest salmon. It was 38 pounds. I don't think I had the most, but I did have the heaviest salmon,
and I had the heaviest halibut as well, which was 200 pounds. Too big to put in the boat,
which was fantastic. I do love fishing. Is there something about being on the water,
that naturally relaxes you and allows for reflection? Please be real,
I feel like we are seeing your face as you looked on your wedding day, glowing and radiant. Thanks
for easing back in with your positive energy and good vibes. We missed you. Christ is king,
and to keep going, Max. Thank you. I'm not really glowing. I'm kind of sweating,
actually, when we went on to that last break. I was like, can someone turn the air up? I'm having
a pregnancy hot flash. But if it looks like I'm glowing, I'll go with that.
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Candace Owens shares her personal journey of resilience, highlighting how her friendship with John and Arena Mappen provided crucial emotional and moral support during the traumatic aftermath of Charlie Kirk’s assassination.
She reveals that a coordinated, government-backed propaganda campaign—linked to the Pentagon, State Department, and figures like Blake Neff and Jennica Pounds—has been actively targeting her and others investigating the assassination, using fabricated narratives and disinformation.
Owens draws a powerful parallel between her experience and David’s victory over Goliath, asserting that truth, perseverance, and the support of ordinary people will ultimately triumph over organized power and misinformation.
Summary:
Candace Owens reflects on her personal and professional journey following the assassination of Charlie Kirk, emphasizing the emotional and psychological toll it took on her. She credits her survival and resilience to unwavering support from friends like John and Arena Mappen, who stood by her with truth and integrity during a time of intense media manipulation and personal crisis. Owens exposes a deep-rooted conspiracy involving government agencies, including the Pentagon and State Department, that has launched a coordinated propaganda campaign against her and the investigation into Kirk’s death.
This campaign, she claims, is orchestrated by figures like Jennica Pounds and Blake Neff, who promote false narratives and use digital tools to discredit her, all while being backed by powerful institutions. Despite the overwhelming pressure, Owens remains steadfast, drawing on biblical parallels to affirm that truth and perseverance ultimately prevail over organized misinformation and political suppression. She celebrates the resilience of those who stand up for truth, especially in the face of powerful opposition, and highlights how grassroots support—both personal and collective—has been essential to her recovery.
The narrative concludes with a powerful message of hope: just as David defeated Goliath, the pursuit of truth will triumph, and those who remain committed to honesty and integrity will continue to win. She also touches on broader themes of justice, including the abuse of power in entertainment lawsuits (like the Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni case) and the need for personal preparedness, such as through first-aid kits.
Throughout, Owens reaffirms her dedication to transparency, truth, and the protection of vulnerable individuals, including unborn babies, while urging her audience to remain vigilant, critical, and united in the face of disinformation.
FAQs
Catching a first Atlantic salmon on the fly is a significant achievement for anglers, symbolizing a major milestone in fishing. The speaker shares that this moment brought them great pride and joy, and in Iceland, there is a tradition where the fisherman swallows the fish's fin in a shot glass as a ritual of celebration.
Candace met her long-lost cousin Justin Baldoni and his wife in Iceland during a chance encounter at the airport. The meeting was meaningful because it symbolized a rare convergence of personal connections and truth, reinforcing her belief in the power of unexpected, positive encounters during difficult times.
John and Arena were strong, early supporters of the Charlie Kirk investigation. They publicly challenged misinformation, expressed their belief that Charlie’s assassination was a targeted act, and provided emotional and moral support, helping Candace stay grounded and resilient during a traumatic period.
Candace criticized the lawsuit involving Blake Lively and Justin Baldoni, calling it absurd and narcissistic. She highlighted how Blake sought to edit the script, threatened to release 'dragons' (a reference to her connection with Taylor Swift), and how the situation involved a lack of empathy, power imbalance, and cruelty toward Justin.
Candace believes that truth, even when it's difficult or unpopular, is powerful and ultimately wins. She draws a parallel to David defeating Goliath, saying that standing for truth—despite overwhelming odds—can lead to victory and resilience in the face of manipulation and propaganda.
Candace alleges that the Department of War and its affiliated actors, including individuals like Andrew Colvett and Sarah Rogers, were involved in spreading propaganda and attempting to discredit her investigation into Charlie Kirk's assassination, suggesting a coordinated effort to suppress the truth.
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