We Are Suing CNN, Jubilee and James Talarico

Listen, I know what you're thinking. Tim's fired. No. Steven will be in in just one minute. I promise you he is in his office right now. We had to trank him because guess what? We're suing CNN. Let's go. Bill Richmond, this is me. You two better stop playing games. Half Asian bulldog will bring the pain. There's going to be a lawsuit. He swears on his Asian mom. My club will never be dead and gone. If you cross, then you know it's on. And this Half Asian is the best in the world. Half Asian is the best in the world. Tonight, he'll win this fight. ♪♪♪ ♪♪♪ Click Rumble Premium and join now for $99 annually or $999 a month to get the entirely ad-free experience and an ever-expanding roster of content, creators, and free speech. We'll be right back. we're not angry at all we're happy lawsuit day cnn don't worry like i said steven will be in in We're not angry at all. We're happy lawsuit day, CNN. don't worry. Like I said, Steven will be in in just a few minutes. We're not angry at all. Just really quickly, did you see it? I'll talk about what it is in a second, but did you see it on your own? Did you go, wait, wait, wait, that looks familiar? Because we did. We talked about it a little bit yesterday, and we thought, there's no way they're actually going to go with it. Well, guess what? They actually went with it in the worst possible way for themselves. But we want to get to some Instagram people. There are some people out there trying to do good. So this Instagram self-help guru has some interesting names for white folk. Alabaster disasters. I got a message for you today. Here we go. It's just what y'all call y'all selves. Let me give you the list of what I've heard this week. Alabaster disaster. Mayo brigade. Mayo flavored cracker. Pale palate patrol. Vanilla bean. Cracker jacker. People of the pale. What about our words? That's not an exhaustive list either. That's just some of what has been in comments this week. And I want to tell you something. Please. What I call the mental capacity, right? There's a mental capacity and liberation. We're in mental capacity. Think about thinking. I don't think you have mental capacity. You're thinking too much, then you dehumanize yourself. Think about thinking and we're thinking too much. And when you're dehumanizing and deprecating yourself, you're still censoring yourself. Because you're still talking about yourself, but you're using humor to do it. It's actually part of the shame you feel in the journey. And your hair looks like Queen Amidala. Now, I don't mean it to be humorous, but I really want to let you all know. Words have power. So if you're calling yourself names because what that does is put the attention back on you, that means that I have more labor to do. Comment body so you can learn that, ooh, I'm not in my body right now when I hear information that conflicts with my belief, especially when it's a black woman. Especially because they're, you know. Especially. They're top tier. A number of things wrong. I prefer chalk demon. So if we're going to go down that road, that one's the funniest and best that I would probably call myself if I had to. I prefer being employed. You can call yourself a chalk demon here. That's fine. You'd still be employed. What are you talking about? I think employed is the slur that black people use against us. Thank you. Thank you. That was a high level. High brought you, bro. Those employed folk. On time folk. Not stealing people's stuff, folk. I like glue stick. Glue stick? Yeah, glue stick. Ah. Yeah. Did you just make that one up? Sure. Okay. Yeah, fantastic. Yeah, they call me Elmer, baby. Did she make any sense to anybody else the last half of that? I know the first part of it was nonsense. I'll be honest. I don't understand. I don't understand any of it. She's like, you're in the thinking thing, and you think about thinking, and you're thinking too much. And you're out of your body, and you're making it harder for me to do work, so think in your body. What? Is she trying to insult white people on insults that they made to white people? She's saying that we're centering the discussion on ourselves as white people tend to do. They find a way to be the center of attention. There they go. There's a Tallarico right here. Very nice. We're going to get to you, buddy, in CNN and Jubilee. Oh, change my mind. Wow. They put it in the red, too. Weird. We'll get to all of it. Yeah, we'll get to it. Just do me a favor. Keep airing it. Keep going with all of that stuff and just dig that hole even deeper. I'm not saying you can legally do it. I'm just saying you're only hurting yourself here. Yeah, we'll get to that. But this chick here, I don't think she has any kind of certification or doctorate to be analyzing. Why would you say that? It seems very racist of you. No, it's not racist. You're one of those degreed persons, aren't you? A credentialed person. I'm undegreed. I'm undegreed. And I can see that. I can see one when I spot one. Well, listen. I know my people. The term polar monkey has also been thrown around as well, but they're a fiery bunch and they are not having it. All I called you was a polar monkey. That's not so bad. It's kind of cute. I called you a f***ing guinea homo from the 15th f***ing century, you d***head. Oh, kiss my ass. I ain't got time for this. Yeah? You sure it ain't too sore from last night? Oh, you an angry polar monkey, huh? You got some lip on you, don't you? Well, these lips. You just swore on your wife's p***y last night. Why don't you dust that thing off once in a while, a**hole? He knows my wife? Yeah, they don't. They don't put up with it. They're small in stature, but they have that little dog syndrome where they can do whatever they want. Last thing I'll say about that black woman, and I do want to make this point. Some of my favorite people that I'll ever meet are black conservative women. Right. We talked about this because to have the ideas that they do. They have to defend them constantly, constantly against this. And they're ready. And they're ready. So they're, and I don't, and no, I don't mean Candace Owens. I mean, I mean, conservatives and I mean women. Yes, absolutely. No, you're a hundred percent right. They actually have to defend their views, not just spout that kind of nonsense and get a lot of people going. That's right. That's right. They're making it about them every time. I also think it really angers them that we don't take offense to any of the words they use against us. I think they're kind of. It does. They want to feel what it feels like to have a. Say something and then a trigger will go off in our brain where we go, I have to kill you. kill you i'm getting diabetes and it's heart disease every time because of the stress shut up you vanilla beater all right speaking of stress a lot of people were worked up over this they were a little frustrated by this there were there's been a ton of conversations that have happened on whether or not it is morally right to even execute people from a lot of people on the the catholic side of the equation which is very surprising to me but then there was this question of okay well even if we're killing somebody that the death penalty we should we live stream it to which we resoundingly said yes and we had planned on a live stream for this potentially if it was going to happen they were going to live stream it we were going to be there and make sure that we covered it because it's not just about dealing with the penalty of what you've done it's also about deterrence and seeing what we do to evil and that's a second component of it that was definitely biblical they had to hold people come outside of the camp to see the execution of people so that nobody else would do those sinful things again in the bible look it up if you will but last week trump said that he had approved live streaming the execution of nadal hassan did you personally authorize or approve uh the execution the live stream execution of the court he came with absolutely i'm gonna do it seem pretty cut and dry did right josh what do you think should we do it absolutely 100 yeah i think no doubt in your mind yeah i want to see it yeah you had all these you had these two reasons you know deterrence deserve to get it there's also i want to see it i'm an american i'm a veteran i was in the i was serving when this happened i wasn't there or anything you know but i want to see it well unfortunately today via truth which seems to be the national way to get information out from president trump he reversed it and he's not going to do it again he's going to do it again his stance and i quote nadal malik hassan a former u.s army major uh major turned traitor is a very bad and evil man true killed 13 people yes of course including a pregnant soldier who died along with her unborn son and injured very seriously 32 more innocent people with all of that being said i think streaming the execution for all to see might have been a strong deterrent for the world to witness how america deals with terrorists and scum like hassan but many very good and well meaning people would rather see him die than be killed by a terrorist like hassan whether or not watch him die through streaming or through any other visual device he will die as scheduled by firing squad but this event will not be streamed that said the execution may be viewed in person by the immediate families of the victims if they so choose they deserve to witness justice thank you for your attention to this matter president donald j trump i guess i'm a little disappointed but also not entirely surprised i mean i know i get it yeah i get it i i said i don't know if it's the best idea to do it i i just know that i can't i can't deny that i want to see it right so there's that there's like that i i don't think it's a great idea that life's dream but at the same time i do want to see it yeah i mean i i do think that there is a deterrence to seeing it when you see something like that and you're a person either thinking about committing evil or bent on evil there is some form of deterrence to him but there is also the camp and we talked about this being a potential reason is that we don't want to make anybody else uh their right we don't want them to use this as propaganda that was the big pushback right but i i think that's probably the weaker of the arguments uh is that uh they don't have enough recruiting material already so i don't think that was really going to be the case but i think trump saw the public pressure on this and it wasn't worth losing that over i mean we have certain opinions here but i do think the broad public does not necessarily share those i i don't think this is a huge about face by him it would have been cool to see but i completely understand why yeah the pressure is a big part of it people saying oh this is how fascism works and this is what this country does and this is what that country does and you know it's misguided but uh but i could see how the pressure would make him up yeah no i understand that there's plenty of things for him to worry about right now and we understand that as many as as much as we would like to i know you guys would like to see the execution but unfortunately some things are out of our control but your crypto doesn't have to be some things are out of your control yeah yeah yeah no i'll get it right to you yeah yeah no i'm looking at it right now. Yeah, I'll just print it out. Overnight? Yeah, I'll overnight it to you. 10 a.m. Yeah, you got it, boss. Yeah, 10 a.m. Okay, I'm right now. Okay, bye. Bye. Come on, come on, come on. Let's go, let's go. Come on, come on. Let's go, print. Okay, come on. Okay, all right. Let's go. Come on, something. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You son of a. Some things are out of your control. Rumble Wallet isn't. Take control of your money easily with Rumble Wallet. Download now at wallet.rumble.com slash Crowder and use the code CROWDER10 to claim $10 in U.S. stablecoin. Hey, why is there a big hole in the side of the printer? When will Josh learn? Okay, as I promised you, like I said, we had to. He was a little bit worked up on this. We had to crank him a little bit in his office right now. But here, the man, coming to third chair, Steven Crowder. Yeah. You guys got my notepad and everything. We did it. You got your drinks, your headphones. Sorry. Well, I don't have the headphones on yet. Sorry. By the way, we're going wide all day today. So, we're going to be. This is going to be on YouTube. Oh, so don't say any of the word. No, no. We can say all the things. I don't care. What? What are they going to do? Demonetize us? Again? And then someone else rip it off and monetize it themselves? Like has always happened here. How are you, sir? I'm fine. You guys didn't tranquilize. Do I need to move. Am I good? Do I need to move it closer to me? I'm used to the mic being closer, but. Like right in your face? Yeah. That wasn't good. You didn't tranquilize me. So, I had to do a. I have a heart exam today. Come on. So, like I've. They still. They left this on. So, they put me. Why? I don't want to get into it. But. They want to check your levels post-joke. They put me on a beta blocker and nitroglycerin. Anyone who's ever done this because they need to. And then I also. I thought I peed my pants because they give you the dye. Yeah. Not because you were scared. No. No. Well, they told me you're going to feel like. We'll get to the lawsuit. They told me, you're going to feel like. I was like, you kind of sound like Dr. Phil's. Like, no, you're going to feel like you're going to have to pee. So, I took it. So, and then I peed myself. I thought I peed myself. I peed myself. Right. And I came out and my hands are like this. And so, as they bring me out of the MRI or CAT scan tube, I'm just like. And I go, what are you doing? I'm like, I think. He's like, no, I told you you'd have to. You feel like you didn't pee yourself. There's no pee. And then. No, no. You said I would think that I had to pee, not that I actually had to pee. Yeah. I was like, I felt it travel and spread. Yes. And then he's like, now, you said you work in media. He's like, I hope you're not carrying any heavy camera equipment or anything. I'm like, why? He goes, well, your blood pressure is about 100 over 51. So, if you're doing this number, tell me you're going to pass out. But instead, I'm here. So, Stephen crawled in the door and plopped himself on the couch. Yeah. He was like, guys. So, it didn't work out today. Also, it's helpful whenever we talk about legal matters that I, you know, I can, you know, not get too angry. Yeah. So, yesterday, CNN, in tandem with Jubilee, hosted, obviously, James Tallarico for a town hall. And it featured a totally brand-new, unique segment. James Tallarico is going to be face-to-face with Republican voters, Democratic voters, and independent voters. Our colleague, Erin Burnett, will be on stage asking and guiding these questions. But, Dan, a very different part of tonight's town hall is a segment called Change My Mind. Huh. James Tallarico is going to be sitting directly across from Undecided and other voters, just a few feet across from them, and engaging in a dialogue and trying to persuade those voters. Pause. When we looked at this yesterday, we saw this, and Stephen and I both went like, hey, what? Yeah. And I was like, hold on. And I said, I think the Change My Mind was actually capitalized, and the rest wasn't. But we'll have to look at it again. Certainly, they wouldn't do that. Well, just to be clear, I don't want to bury the lead here. We are filing a lawsuit, just to be clear. I've heard. I've said that. You've said that? Yes. Do we have a celebration thing or something? Just so you know, like, I am not a litigious person. We have been ripped off many times, but this was so egregious. And we'll get to the multitude of reasons. We'll get to the reasons that this needs to be done, not the least of which, the people ripping me off are people who have scammed me in the past. And I don't want our trademarked brand logo and format, which they've praised, to be used for James Tallarico to associate and ingratiate himself with right-wing voters in this country. Once you rip it off and you profit and you use it for propaganda, I now have a problem. And I have to come for everything. Yeah. He's coming for everything. That includes Brian Stelter. Oh, yeah. We're going to get custody of him. Hey, we finally get Harry Anton. I'm going to ride Brian Stelter into the Jubilee studios like a mule. They don't have studios, Stephen. Keep playing. So we'll be able to see in real time if it works or not. And undecided voters are such a key part of this electorate here. It's one of the reasons that Republicans are spending so much money in Texas. And he's going to be a dentist. We're going to have to remind voters of some of the liberal positions that James Tallarico has, trying to present him as the president of the United States. unacceptable. But again, watching his answers tonight, I think will be so instructive in this Texas race, which is at the cornerstone of the Republicans quest to try and hold on to their Senate majority. Yeah. People who aren't familiar with Jubilee and the way they do things, that is kind of a key part of of of how they present them themselves in their interviews, which is to change my mind. It'll be really cool to see that tonight. That is unique to Jubilee. It is. It is unique to Jubilee and how they present it. Change my mind. It is always just to be very clear. It is very unique that Jubilee has come up with the novel trademark concept of change my mind. Not our words with the color and the font, everything and the framing. Yeah. So she's saying that everything that Jubilee has been doing is change my mind forever. Yeah. Well, not just her, like a lot of people. But it is change my mind what they're doing. Yeah. Well, it's changed my mind. No, this time. Yeah. It's not just like change my mind, but not called change my mind with a timer. This time it is change my mind. And they also said, let's do the timer, too, because let's be honest, that's not transformative. It's just the same thing. Let's just have two people at a table doing change my mind. Yeah, that would be different. But it's very novel. It's unique to Jubilee. New thing. And by the way, during the lead up yesterday, they actually used the exact phrase, not just then, change my mind 10 times. It is going to be an opportunity for voters from the left and the right to challenge James Tallarico. It's a segment called Change My Mind, the middle portion of the evening tonight. Thank you. It's a segment called Change My Mind. Thank you. A very different part of tonight's town hall. It is a segment called Change My Mind. Thank you. The undecided voters will ask him questions. And the idea is called Change My Mind. Oh, thanks. A bit of a different moment. A Change My Mind segment. Thank you. It's also going face to face with some undecided voters in a segment called Change My Mind. I'll take it. Ask him questions in a segment that's called Change My Mind. And in a bit of a twist, there'll be a segment called Change My Mind. There's a segment called Change My Mind. It's an opportunity for members of the audience to come and directly confront or ask a question. If you aren't familiar with Jubilee and the way they do things, that is kind of a key part of how they present themselves in their interviews, which is the Change My Mind. You'll be really interested to see that tonight. And here's the branding they chose to use out of nowhere. Yeah, it seems. You got it. I'm sorry. Sorry. There we go. That's the famous meme, but then we also have that. It's just the one in the background that matters, guys. That's the important one. With the actual Change My Mind in red. Like, there's so many examples of it. I just, hey, by the way, people were asking me, and I don't obviously handle all the media. Do we trademark? We do. Okay. It's been active for, you know, a while. How many? We have a couple. Oh, okay. That's right. We have a couple. And to those of you saying, I know people are going to say, well, you don't know. And I don't. This is why I'm not litigious. Like, you don't have the corner on debate. Well, no. No, of course not. Change My Mind is, by the way, it's not debate. It's rhetoric. And it was sitting down and actually having a conversation. I've explained it quite a bit. Did they do that? Did they sit down and have a conversation last night? They did. And what's interesting is they didn't say this is debate. They said, this is very novel. It's unique. It's the way that Jubilee does this specifically. Always. It's different from all the other ways that people do it. And it's better than the other formats. Jubilee's Change My Mind is especially unique, and it's an improvement. And I just don't want you to leave this one out. CNN assured its audience it's a completely novel concept. Yeah. This is a town hall, but we're putting a twist on it. There's going to be some different parts. There's going to be two chairs, one for James Tallarico and one for a voter, and two mics. And they're going to be able to debate on issues that people here are really passionate about, issues where they do not agree with Representative Tallarico. So they're going to have a debate. We've got a clock. We're going to give them a chance to actually debate with the candidate. Interesting model we have tonight, the hybrid model, taking Jubilee, a media company that is more, you know, more of a digital company, and what it does is it allows the conversation to go from just a direct question to maybe a challenge. Basically, it's this format in videos where people will sit down and kind of look eye to eye and debate each other. So they did that with voters. It started out of nowhere. A chance to really go back and forth with them. I thought it was refreshing, not only refreshing, but I think it was instructive, much more so than the traditional debate format. Yeah, I feel like that's going to change town halls now for a while. Going forward. And I give Tallarico credit for doing this. You know, it was an innovative kind of format. I think it was for CNN to do it. It's a good show. You know, it's good for people to be engaged. And by the way, the format is excellent. I do agree with having the voters sit down and ask questions themselves and follow-ups. It's great. An interesting format, seeing the candidates sit across from a voter. Jubilee does these kinds of formats a bunch. And basically, they were able to debate him and challenge him. It's an innovative format. I think overall, this is a great format. Listen, I love the format. You know, kudos to CNN for putting it on. This was a fascinating event. Kudos to both CNN and Jubilee for pulling it off. I love this town hall so much. I want to slow dance with it to a Willie Nelson waltz. Oh, that guy's still alive. A little creepy. Yeah. Unique, you know, really unique, really an improvement. It's going to change town halls from what? From what existed before that? Well, why didn't you do that before? Meaning all of this time, you had never come up with this idea. And we'll get to the reason as to why I created it. Because these people were incapable of doing it, legacy media. And I've worked with legacy media for a long time. They said that will never work. Then once they lose in a competitive environment, they would rip it off and kind of in a soft way. Last night, they just ripped it off on purpose. And I'm telling you this, I do not want, change my mind, and the many, many hundreds of millions of plays to be used to help James Tallarico ruin Texas or the company, Jubilee, who are dishonest pricks as well. And I've been, look, I pointed out this for a long time. Before they were blatant, I was like, well, look, Jubilee, oh, you mean the thing they do where they just took, changed my mind and added a timer? Like, this is not new. It was just pre-blatant plagiarism. Right, exactly. I didn't think they would actually go this far into it, right? So, by the way, you know, they just added a timer. Let's take a look. I think you've said that before. I know that this has been used in these attack ads all over the state. You know, the first comment about, about God not being defined by gender. When I said that, I was being provocative, and I want to admit that and come clean about that. I think we have to be careful using modern cultural terms when talking about God. Sure. I think that is very fair criticism. And I've kind of admitted when, you know, how I've said things in the past have maybe not come across in the right way or have upset people. And I believe that Easter reminds us that while death is, powerful, it is not the final word. Do you believe that Jesus is the only savior for people here on earth? I believe Jesus is the truth, the way and the light. Well, what's interesting about that is before they did this, they just did surrounded, which was I'd go change my mind with a timer. And you know, we'll have that obviously in the suit because I had my suspicions. And then last night, they just when they're on the biggest platform they've had yet, they just go, you know what, let's just actually use the real branding to change my mind. And let's use it. Timer anyway, because it's not like the timer really changed anything. We just copied it and put in a timer. So we'll just put both. So really, the only question is, well, I guess we should officially announce that we're still I thought it was gonna be a stinger. As we told you, see, it's changed. My mind is a trademark. It's registered. It's active right now. It was first recorded use was December 5 2017. Filed July 1 2019. Registered January 14 2020. Yeah, it is 100%. There is no doubt about this lawsuit is in the works right now. Let me just tell you, we're suing not just CNN, and Jubilee, James Tallarico as well. And here's, here's my here's what I am going to assert. I would not be surprised if what we found out was like you said, we covered this, I think just the other day, James Tallarico needs reporting. Republicans to break for him. Right now he's got 567% of the Republican vote people identify as Republicans who are trying to go a different direction. Because of whatever reason, the only path to victory for him really is to get more Republicans and to keep other Republicans for voting for his opponent, right? He's doing a good job of that right now. And he wants to continue what better way than for the average voter who's not paying a ton of attention to tune in to a town hall and see a very familiar conservative logo brand format and go, maybe I can vote for this guy that that that that's right. Steven Crowder did change my mind. Maybe there's an associate maybe I can vote as a Republican for Democrat or maybe Jubilee has generated all of their profit off of a completely unoriginal idea disguised it and then the mass came off or maybe CNN suggested Well, you know what changed my mind has more brand familiarity because billions of people have seen the meme in the video. So, so we don't know. We need to find out who we do vagrantly, disregarded right the trademark who flagrantly plagiarized who profited off of it most and for what degree of time so this what you just saw is what you would call legal nomenclature and I'm a lawyer, so I don't want to miss a slam dunk. Sports reference on time. Down to Hey, do you owe us for all the revenue of coverage using change my mind as a brand and logo? Or does it go back further than that, because this is a sort of tacit acknowledgement. that it was always a rip-off and and this isn't just because like it's because this place this firm this outfit was rejected this is where let's just be honest we're all a bunch of rejects we're all a bunch of rejects and i was rejected from cable news and this exact concept and like no no it'll never work and just like youtube just like online streaming just like video podcast space which no one wanted where we were the first to step in we incurred that risk we were the ones who paid the cost and these other people swoop in they get some investors sometimes non-profit donors they steal it and profit that's why and so we just got to figure out hey cnn if it's not you just you know you guys can just finger uh jubilee let us know that it was them and jubilee if it's not you guys can let us know talarico one of you guys is going to be the one to plead out first and we'll allow it but you better do it quickly and make sure you preserve all documents and records yeah we got to find out we got to find out who is the ripoff artist yeah i mean is it the campaign is it jubilee is it cnn everybody had a responsibility here so it's really not going to help you a whole lot but here listen we do want to get to the town hall recap and do a little claim truth by the way that lawsuit is uh being filed like the keyboard is smoking from how quickly they're fine obviously we weren't able to have it this morning i don't even know if they're off i mean i would imagine that the jubilee people like they come in at the crack of noon so uh sometimes we'll let you know once it rips you off again yeah i know i just i did this show i pre-taped with that jack neil carrot very nice i get home like at seven something at night and i turn on tv and i'm just losing my mind and while talking with the lawyer every time i look back up and i see change my mind in the font and color like mother and it's just and it's on top of grok refusing to do racist jokes that's true we'll talk about that yeah unhinged mode is rather hinged now well yep he's tamed it tamed it a little bit so he just wants to avoid lawsuits as well so first claim tallarico supports banning gender affirming care for minors two things one is protecting children and honoring the rights of parents because i believe that parental rights are sacred can you pause really quickly we should um the guy who looks like yeah right there the count of monte cristo without a dad and i know i've been done test technically didn't have it but the joke remains um he asked about you know people saying the transitioning of minor stuff could you um could you clarify your stance so that's important because that was a layup and i want you to picture just just change i don't support transitioning kids to i kind of do which james uh tallarico answers just change that to okay the opinion is different but who does he sound like in his exact rhetoric trust parents to raise their kids but if there's something that's going to endanger a child or a minor um certainly something that could could cause permanent damage then which is always going to try to air on the side of protecting those kids the republican majority tried to pass an extreme ban on minors two things one is that they're not going to be banned that would go after all kinds of different forms of health care not just gender reassignment surgeries i actually supported an amendment to that bill to limit the legislation to just banning surgeries for those under the age of 18 but that was rejected by the republican republican majority the number of people under the age of 18 that are getting gender affirming surgeries it's point zero zero two percent it is not happening at the rates that some people would like citizens of this country to believe it's essentially a non-issue um not only that when we think of transition regret or detransitions they certainly happen but they're outliers and i feel that there's the amplification of these outliers to detract from actual issues that are impacting our country and that's what bothers me so much let me tell you where where i think we agree powerful people are using small minorities in our community to distract from their corruption the only the the the the only minority destroying america is the billionaires they they are constantly trying to divide us thank you thanks for that weird a lot who are those are the only people dividing us that'd be like mangala saying that guy has a nice house oh so the mutilation of children that's not it that sounds exactly sounds exactly like tucker it sounds exactly like candace these are all distractions the fact that the state can take your children away if you don't transition them right as though they didn't push it but go points with the 0.02 percent by the way that's still too many he is absolutely full of crap james talarico on this that's the truth in 2023 he voted against sb14 which banned gender surgery for minors puberty blockers and hormone therapy and it wasn't just that he voted against that just to just to be clear he actually spoke about his opposition to that to these groups clarified i think if i'm thinking through the three most dangerous lgbtq attack bills that made it through i would say the most dangerous is sb14 which would deny many times life-saving health care and i would say the most dangerous is sb14 which would deny and you're the reason that i oppose that bill is because i trust parents and doctors to make decisions for kids and not politicians in austin ah does that sound like uh the answer that he was giving there yeah no the answer he tried to say i was against just i voted against it because of just the surgeries well okay then you can also say hey let's let's just separate that out but include the puberty blockers include all of the other reasons the psychoactive but he doesn't want to because that would let people know what he actually wants to do well it's it's obviously politicians are two-faced sometimes we've seen that so i'm not surprised by that it shouldn't be that way but it is that way he's talking to a group that he has to kind of appeal to and he says exactly what he thinks and then he gets on camera and i changed my mind brand new novel it's kind of idea it's jubilee sure you understand uh and says well i've gotten a lot of pushback on that so i need to i need to make this sound palatable to these voters especially the count of monte cristo like you said sitting across from me and just smiling yeah that's true he didn't really answer my question but i don't really care let me ask if you line up 10 billionaires right now okay and then you line up 10 doctors that perform gender reassignment surgery or just puberty blockers for minors guess which group i'm gonna hate more yes 100 percent of this is the divide man this is the left versus right man you're just cutting off dicks man let him cut off dicks in peace man or give him like give the boy estrogen give him cancer man that guy's got a lot of money right how about protecting our children some of the most vulnerable among us there's a reason that everybody universally hates pedophile how about eat my ass and pay me there we go 2021 also voted that was not an offer mr talarico do not do not dm him uh 2021 he also voted against banning men in women's sports the doa amendment he supported would have still allowed every type of gender affirming care besides actual surgery by the way which you know might as well if you're chemically castrating somebody which is essentially what it's going to do and that's why these people don't sit down with me they rip stuff off uh that's why um gavin newsom sat down with and this is not to insult him at all charlie kirk and he said you know i was always against men and women's sports that's a lie it was too soft so they will not sit they will not sit across from someone who goes well no yeah you did yeah you did so they rip off the concept because they have no originality and then they uh lie about their actual positions by pushing talking points let me be really clear about this too it's not the most important issue as far as affecting the most amount of people it is the most important issue and the most important issue is that there are no men and women male and female and that parents don't really he said we trust parents no you don't know it always goes to the state making the decision and that's what marxists believe that the children don't belong to the family they belong to the state if the parents say no you're not getting puberty blockers no we're not putting you on hormones nine-year-old 11-year-old and the state says actually you are guess what you don't have parental rights and it's all predicated on the lie that men and women aren't different yes and it's not theoretical either remember minnesota specifically minneapolis a trans sanctuary location what would they need sanctuary from if you trust parents let the parents make those decisions wait a minute you don't even notify if you have one of these people in your centers and the parents are actively looking for them with the police and filed a missing persons report yeah you still don't have an ability to notify or a duty to notify them it's not theoretical guys this is what's happening to you it's not theoretical guys this is what's happening to you now picture if neverland's lost boys were just lost dykes and that's what it is they're like don't they don't listen to your parents never grow up we should make that more sense yeah all right let's get to the next claim trump's big beautiful bill is it's it's what's causing the debt oh yeah we are often told that the only way to tackle the the deficit or the debt is by doing it on the backs of working people and that's not true we can we can close the deficit and we can do it by closing billionaire tax loopholes this big ugly bill that was passed a year ago gave three trillion dollars in tax cuts to the top one percent people who don't need it nothing against the top one percent but really they don't need any help and that money could go toward closing the deficit and tackling the debt well here's the truth he's just absolutely one hundred percent what the big beautiful bill did is permanently enshrined the twenty seventeen tax cuts the tax cuts by the way the benefited all income brackets especially the poor He also did no tax on tips and overtime. Billionaires, they always work for tips, those guys, and work tons of overtime for extra money. Well, Tallarico works for tips. Well, just the tips. Increased child tax credits as well. And when he lied and said, well, all we have to do is address this one issue and we can take care of it, half of all government spending is entitlements and you cannot fix the debt without hitting entitlements, period. 100% of the time, and he will not say that. That's absolutely right. And the only way this argument works, and you see people from the Marxist right making it too, is greed. You have to appeal to greed. Now, let me be really clear. I hate corporatism. I hate crony capitalism. I don't think that any organization, any bank, any company should be too big to fail. Okay? That's how the biggest wealth transfer in human history, at least in modern human history, was COVID. Mom and pop shops shut down. Amazon, Walmart, Costco doing great. All the big tech companies. So if we all agree with that, okay. Now, let's say there's no bailouts, there's no crony capitalism, but I would make this deal with you tomorrow. Okay. Tomorrow. I'm president, and I can actually do this. I can double your wealth overnight. Every single one of you watching, would you take that? You don't have to do anything. I will double your wealth. Okay. You now would see the income, the wealth gap increase more. But you just doubled your wealth. So are you happy that you've doubled your wealth? Or are you more unhappy that someone else doubled their wealth more comparatively? We don't have a wealth inequality problem. We have a poverty problem. And poverty. Poverty is at record low rates. We have a government corruption problem and crony corporate oligarch problem. And then we have a problem that's largely been solved. Not entirely, but poverty, historically, comparatively. And so now people complain about the gap. Would you take that deal? I will double all your wealth tomorrow. But that means that you have more trillionaires. There you go. Nobody. Ah, I forgot about that one. I was like, what the heck? Game show or we play? Okay, that makes sense. All right. Here's another claim. He's strong on the border. And he, despite what everybody says, he doesn't want to ban ICE. No. I'm going to call out Democrats like Joe Biden who failed us on our southern border. Because we need border security here in Texas. We need to protect our border communities. Do you support abolishing ICE or not? No. And I never have. We need immigration and customs enforcement in this country. But that's not what we're seeing. He's, here's the truth. He's lying. About both things. On the border specifically, he voted no nine times. Nine times. I don't remember nine times. On bills that would have strengthened border security. He also explicitly supports amnesty on the campaign website. Grace. I mean, it's not even close. And by the way, if he doesn't specifically say, I've never wanted to just ban and get rid of ICE. All he has done is spread propaganda and demonize them. Grace. Grace. Shot a mom in the face. ICE kidnapped a five-year-old boy, Liam Ramos, and brought him all the way here to Texas. Ah, facts, huh? ICE executed Alex Preddy in the street in broad daylight, shooting him in the back. So this agency is out of control. I would demand accountability from this agency. What does that mean? Accountability when it comes to federal agents. Accountability for your lies? Killing American citizens and hurting our undocumented neighbors in the process. We should be cracking down on the cartel. Not our communities. Ah, do me a favor. Tell me where they are. Here's. Let me just say this. They will pivot to that. It's billionaires. It's cartels. Trans issues don't matter. Here's why he's doing it. Tell me where the cartel is, please. Can you point them out? That's right. They're intermixed in our community because they know that is the way that they can hide in plain sight. So when we go, everybody who's here illegally has got to go. We will necessarily be rounding up cartels. Cartel members as well. Would you like us to specifically only go after people in the cartel that we might not even know are actually a part of the cartel, you moron? Or do you just want to spew more propaganda so maybe ICE agents get shot again like happened here in Texas multiple times? Do you take any responsibility for that? He doesn't. By the way, he doesn't even mean it because he lamented when ICE arrested an MS-13 member. That's true. We don't have that clip. He had the tattoos. That kid wasn't kidnapped. They didn't shoot some guy in the back. They shot a guy who was. A guy who was violent, who had been kicking out taillights. So when he says they need to face accountability, oh, you mean for your lies? And you've not voted in any way to strengthen the border immigration. You have voted to open it up. This man wants a new class of voters. Yes, he does. And he wants mob justice like they always do. Not through the courts. They want mob justice. Let's go to another claim before I get too angry. I'm so glad that we're able to get to the truth of his answers because of Jubilee's novel and significantly improved over the stand. What's it called again? Change My Mind Format. Change My Mind. Jubilee's Change My Mind Format. It's what they've always done. They're very good about it. Brought it to CNN that night. I wish I could be such a Copernicus. We'll talk about this later and see if we can come up with any good ideas like they did. Here's the claim. He's pro-oil and gas. I'm just thinking, what are we going to do with the money? We should start a new debate format. Yeah. We'll call it Engulfed. I'll call it Jubilee's We Suck. Around Me. Yes. Arounded. There we go. It's arounded. It takes place in Stephen's brand new Lamborghini. No, I already have enough Lambos. We talked earlier about oil and gas. If the Democratic Party is going after the good-paying oil and gas jobs here in Texas, I'm going to stand up against them. Are you? Do you really think so? Well, here's the truth. His platform is anti-oil and gas. I don't know if you guys understand this, but if your platform and website say things, you probably ought not say the opposite thing in a novel new concept where you sit down with somebody and have a conversation called Change My Mind, I believe. He said the good. The good? The good oil and gas company. You missed that part. He throws things in there all the time. All of them are good. I just thought he had actually changed his mind because Jubilee is so convincing in their branding. Maybe. It was a conversation between two people at a table with a mug. Part of his DNA, by the way. He's holding a mug. Did you see that? He had a mug, yeah. He has a CNN mug. He has a CNN mug. That guy hasn't seen a mug in a decade. Maybe they changed his mind. Who knows? He's part of the climate cult, last we checked, said that the Texas oil and gas industry is obsolete and won't last like cassette tapes, sponsored a bill to force emissions below 50% of 1990 levels by 2030 and 90% by 2050. He is 100%. He is 100% pro-oil, and it's exactly what you think. Oh, it's the Diddy Lobby. Diddy Club. That's the good oil company that you're talking about, right? That kind of oil. That must be it. Leads to a good time, is what some people have said. Okay. All right. Texas Republicans are suppressing voters. Those meanies. Yeah. We've also seen them suspend more than a million voters. Voter registrations. We've seen them in Tarrant County, right here, close 93 polling locations, and they're hoping it's going to mean lower voter turnout in some neighborhoods. Really? And that's unacceptable. That's un-American. Some kinds of ID are allowed, and other valid forms of ID aren't allowed. So, for instance, when you go to vote here in Texas, you can bring your concealed carry license, which I'm all for. Issued by the government. But a student at a public college or university can't bring their student ID. And so, I think that hurts some kind of voters, and helps other kind of voters. Voter suppression is powerful. I'm not going to sugarcoat it, but it is nothing compared to people power. So, we'll get to both of those claims, but the truth is, no, neither one of them are correct. Nobody suppressed legitimate voters. The 1.2 million suspended voters are inactive voters who can, in fact, still vote. They can cast a ballot once they confirm their address. You know, like, say, I live here and can vote here. Yeah. Most importantly, though, I want to hit that right away. I saw the trick that he pulled. Like, oh, concealed carry. Anyone here gone through that permit process? Yeah. You actually have to provide proof of citizenship. You actually have to provide. I don't remember exactly if it's your social security. Fingerprints. Fingerprints. Fingerprint photos. Student ID is basically a cafeteria card. I wonder if. Every single non-citizen can get one easily. So, it's very, very different. It's like saying, you know, you have some people. They're allowed to vote because they show up, you know, with their actual birth certifications. And their citizenship papers. But other people who have an Arby's frequent guest card are not. I go to this Arby's. I must be allowed to vote here. And think about this. How many students are out of state and get an absentee ballot? Yeah. But can still vote in the state if James Tallarico has his way because they'll have a student ID card. Yeah. Technically, you don't have to have proof of citizenship to get concealed carry. In here? According to. I'm sorry. In Texas. Yeah. According to research. Okay. So, just proof of residency. In that area. You got to give your address, your license. I'm quite certain. I would assume residency. You need an FBI background check. There you go. Well, I know that I had to do fingerprint, background check, two forms of identification. And if I'm not mistaken, I think at one point I had to have something that either had, it was either a social security number or a tax ID number. The point is, Tallarico would not be okay if they were like, yeah, you could use your student ID to purchase a weapon. No, of course not. Right. It's exactly right. Not ever, ever, ever. There's a reason that we don't let morons with ideas like that take control of things. I'm a sophomore. I'd like four. Or M16, please. Yes. What are you going to use it for? Oh, school things. Oh, it would be quite the party on campus. You'll see me on the news. It'll be quite a show. You've heard about frat parties? This is quite a bit worse than that. It's going to be a banger. All right, so listen. This is the Cornell 7.62. Thank you. All right, nice job. The Kalashnikov 9. No. So the polling locations that he was whining about being closed, by the way, they wanted 140 originally, and the Democrats were like, no, we'll take the 92. You can close 92, but not 140. So he's basically complaining about something that Democrats agreed to in the first place. Wasn't like we were like, hey, let's close 92 places within black districts so that the vote doesn't go their way. It's not what happened. We already went over the ID thing. No good, solid leader who is trying to have a legitimate vote would say, let's use a student ID so that people can vote on that. He's a moron. Here's the next claim. This one really pisses me off. The Bible is silent on abortion. I wonder if he changes his mind. Jubilee trademark. The Bible is silent on the issue of abortion. It means you and I both have to look at different scriptures to come to a conclusion. Pretty quick, right? We have to look at different scriptures to come to our conclusions. Here's the truth. The Bible acknowledges life in the womb. Womb specifically? Womb. Specifically? I won't. Womb. It wasn't like a list. It wasn't like they're trying to say room and they spelled wombs. Yeah, it wasn't back wombs. It's not a translational error. You know what? Let's make sure that they mentioned it more than once. Psalm 139.13, for you created my inmost being. You knit me together in my mother's womb. That seems pretty cut and dry. Jeremiah 1.5, before I formed you in the womb, I knew you before you were born. I set you apart. Isaiah 49.1, before I was born, the Lord called me from my mother's womb. He has spoken my name. Job 31.15, for God created both me and my servants. He created us both in the womb. Galatians 1.15, but even before I was born, God chose me and called me by his marvelous grace. It seems like life starts in the womb. Hold on. Do we have anything about, is the Bible silent on what we're supposed to do with innocent life? I would have to ask Jubilee to see if they trademarked Change My Mind on it. I don't know. Hold on. Maybe they trademarked this. Maybe it's the New Ten Commandments. Thou shalt not kill. The Bible is not silent, not even close to silent on abortion. You trying to come up with some way, like, is the Bible silent on infanticide? Killing your kids when they're, I don't know, six months, a year old? No, because it's covered by thou shalt not kill. It's very clear. It's thou shalt not commit murder specifically. That's different when you're in combat. That's different when you're doing capital punishment because the state bears the sword for a reason. This is the dumbest thing. If you're a Christian voter out there, not just a Catholic voter or a Protestant or an Orthodox voter, you cannot look at this guy and take him seriously because he just told you that God is silent on how he wants to deal with killing children. Period. Location doesn't matter. Never has. Also, I appreciate that you said womb with a Halloween sort of flag. I did. It's, you know, it's halfway through October. We're getting there. All right. Bonus claim for you. Texas has no exception. Wow. No exception. Oh, my gosh. I think I'm about to Jubilee trademark change my mind. I think we could also look at the current abortion ban in Texas, which bans abortion in all cases, including in cases of rape and incest, including when the life of the mother is in danger. We currently see in Texas women dying. Oh, hi. Well, oh, but wait, there's truth. Thank goodness. I don't have to change my mind. A physician in Texas actually may perform an abortion. To save the life of the mother, you lying hypocritical dolt and women aren't dying because of the Texas law. Here's the example. A family of Tierra Walker blamed Texas's abortion law for her death, but she died of hypertensive cardiovascular disease. Pre-eclampsia. Hold on a second. Don't list anything. Just bring it back up. Uh-huh. Okay. Oh, that's why she died. Okay. Enough said. Enlarged heart, kidney damage, fluid in lungs. And the fetus, the fetus was developing normally, Steve. Well, the only thing developing normally in that body, it was a normal body developing in a very abnormal body. She's built like Mark Henry. Plentiful. That's not nice. She had a huge heart. Plentiful resource. Yeah, because she's like the Grinch. It grew three sizes that day. Boing. And I don't even want to say it. Bonus number two. Thank you. Bonus number two. He's super freaky. There's no way he's into girls. He breaks the Bible like a treacherous dog. God asks for Mary's consent. Something's up with him for sure. Healthcare is a human right. Don't ask him about God's gender. God is non-binary. It's tell a freak. Tell a freak. He's tell a freaky. Ow. Why did they make him one of those doll? I don't know. I thought he made it himself. Well, yeah, that was a sourced photo. Oh, really? Yeah, we got that from his website or something, probably. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. Well, really, it's a private group chat. Well, yesterday, we did tell you that the polls were showing good signs for Paxton versus Tallarico. Let's check in with Kalshi. Right now, only 33% on Kalshi of people think that Tallarico will outperform his polling. So that's good because I think Paxton will outperform his polling right now. That's typically the way that it goes. And we do need. The saving grace there is that not a lot of people watch CNN. Because if that. If this was a national election, that would have been, I mean, the tipping point. Catastrophic. 100%. By the way, we also do need Kalshi to do us a favor and offer the same exact market on Ken Paxton. Is he outperforming? Yeah, maybe. Is Paul in? No, he's. Or will he? He might be a guy who can change his mind by. Well, maybe we can get Kalshi to change their mind, branded segment, on offering that for people. Maybe we get Kalshi to create a line on. Well, they're going to lose. But how much. How much. People might not. Who's going to lose? If it's Jubilee or CNN or Tallarico, which person will definitely lose the legal proceedings? We're going to give you a bet on the odds on how soon someone will settle. Yeah. Oh, oh, oh. Who points the finger first? Oh. Who's the first to rat the other person out? Yeah. That's potentially. I would imagine CNN is going to rat out Jubilee really quickly. I would imagine it's going to happen very, very fast. They're actually already taken. I've seen polls in the chat. They've replied to our ex-post, and I mean, come on. They say CNN, but they say Tallarico. Oh, no. That's great, because Jubilee right now is going, we have to change my mind, too. Yeah. Yeah, exactly right. It's ours. We'll put a timer on it. Come on. You know, man. We did a timer. It's totally different, except everything is the same. Yeah. So really quickly, just wanted to give you a little bit of a timeline for Change My Mind. Just in case you're new or maybe haven't heard this before, Stephen has done Change My Mind since 2017, and it was always meant to be a thoughtful, provoking discussion. Same thing. I was at Fox News for years. I was like, we have three minutes, and the whole goal here is to buy up as much time as possible while repeating the same point, right, to block your opponent of time. It's the exact opposite of comedy, which is say as much in as few words as possible. That's literally why I started Change. I wrote the book, the treatment, the pitch for Change My Mind, which everyone turned down. Because I said, this is how it's done. We went a different direction. We showed people that authentic conversations are more desirable, they're more productive, and then a place like Jubilee, like, I also wonder, where's the front money for this for them to come out and go, hey, you know what would be great on online content where nothing has to be censored, is to censor and edit it and pre-tape it. Who is asking for that? But maybe that's what the market wants. A country where guilty until proven innocent, yes, we'd be rotting in a jail. But I know of. I know of a story just recently and. Are you saying that you don't think you deserve a spot at UT? Are you saying that you think you got in because you're black? Maybe. The fact that you don't know right now, do you see that as a. Isn't that a bad thing? That's not a good thing. It's not. It's not. I want you to be able to say, I deserve to be here. What number did I give you? So then let's put it into numbers. If there are 100 people here or 1,000 people here, if there are 100 people here or 1,000 people here, there's still going to be at least one person. Look, if you're not going to. There's still going to be at least one person. If truth doesn't matter to you, this isn't going to be a productive conversation. I'm actually. We can never know how many pronouns there are. And to not use a proper pronoun. You could ask. is an act of violence against them. Did you ask my pronouns before you sat down? No, I didn't ask your pronouns because I haven't referred to you with pronouns. You didn't ask my pronouns, though. You just said you can ask. The obesity rate for low-income women in this country, okay, who are not on SNAP, 40%. You know what it is for those on SNAP? 57%. So working-class Americans with kids not on SNAP, struggling, are paying to make other people fatter. How can we have a country with that? There you go. 56 times, Stephen has posted Change My Mind episodes. Nearly half a billion views on YouTube alone. That doesn't even count the clips that we have put out. Oh, that would be well over a billion on video views when you have clips. And not to mention other people who clip and fans who upload. Put it out all the time and the creation of one of the. internet's most popular memes as well yeah billion ah wait a minute and i don't just to be clear i don't say this because like well look it's a fame thing it's we incurred the risk yes um you know we have obviously been uh the target of violence we go out there we invest we do it ourselves i own what even though gerald is sitting there i own 100 of the company before you because i wanted to do it this way it was specifically created because cable news was crap and they wouldn't do this kind of thing and then they steal it and they use name font color style brand mark branding it's trademark i mean vanilla ice hit it better not done done done done done done done done and people even wonder like what you're saying what you just said just you're guilty like they it's a you're just seeing now like i said with charlie you're not seeing all the attempts you're seeing the one that got through right you're seeing the ripoff that's blatant here's the thing i couldn't tell you how many other independent creators out there have taken these steps have tried to be pioneers have taken risks and they just get ripped off by these giant companies that swoop in that's what they do they're a distribution model they're not actually a production model they don't produce anything they just distribute and at a certain point you're going to run out of things to distribute this right here is how you get you know what they call dead internet theory there'll be nothing left so this is we have to we have to even though they copied for a long time like okay this sucks even though a lot of people ripped it off it's like okay fine but then when they're not okay fine we actually were like hey guys like if you're gonna do something like just just post our video give us credit for this because it's this tiny thing like we're never fine with people just completely ripping off no but i mean other people other people doing it and calling like i had people call and say can i do and i was like if students want to i don't really want you to profit off of it i prefer that you not because then it but they called you at least yes sometimes did cnn call you did you call you did james talarico called you but there there's some background there with jubilee that we'll probably get into sometime where you think this this might have been some retribution i don't know but a very expensive retribution for them i am excited i'm excited to see the leftists and the democratic socialists getting behind stephen crowder the little man going after the corporation that's right on this innovative new style yeah i you know they they really the corporate media they came in and they swooped in they stole something from the little guy and i'm just so excited to get uh you know yeah together they they say that the workers should own the means of production but i literally legally own the production so well does that mean you're a worker oops i mean i guess i guess i'm an owner and i'm a worker but i mean if it's in that class they should be protecting you the point is i i mean i just i just don't know what's true anymore like maybe i dreamt it no i don't think no i dreamt the half a billion no you didn't do any of that by the way jubilee started surrounded the format that they do right now in september of 2024 when charlie kirk debated 24 liberals and before we go to this uh i'm gonna play a clip by tim pool but if you are not a member of mug club thank you so much for your support just click that button right now 99 annually or 999 a month you won't get the hand at smug unless you do the annual deal but this is how we do those things those formats by now they're they're into the six figures for us to put on now because of all the threats all the security that has to go into it all of the tight rope that we have to walk with different universities and people at those universities and the theaters that we have to work with and all of that so it costs a lot of money thank you very much for supporting us that is the best way to do this if you want to see look also one thing if you want to see more of the original yeah to my mind hey sign up we're supported by viewers like you or a multi like we say if you take a multivitamin take the best in the world foundation that's why we created it so that you don't have to hit another tip jar you don't have to watch 15 ads and if you want to see these people if you if nick sandman if that lawsuit meant something to you if donald trump winning getting i think it was 16 million from abc and he won he won two different ones if you want to see that this is going to be a six seven figure legal process to hopefully set the standard for anyone else having their stuff ripped off and it's all supported by you every every dollar of yours goes to all of this we can't do it without you and we can't continue to do it without you cnn jubilee can they can rip things off that's what they do because they just have a bunch of investment money and steal and by the way this is not the first time that jubilee has come up with their own original concept to put out there much like change my mind tim pool brought this up about how they copied the chess clock for me oh my gosh they did a podcast interview where they played clips asked me what i thought and then i did a sit-down debate in dc and i was like oh my god they're so they're so they're so they're so they're so they're so they're so