We Are NOT Manifesting w/ Chelsea Handler

(upbeat music) - Hey everyone, I'm Morgan Stewart and welcome to the Morgan Stewart Show. I'm gonna be talking about pop culture, fashion, my personal life, and just a warning, I will be giving my opinions on everything. And those opinions are subject to change, okay? Now, let's get into it. You guys, I don't think you know what this means to me. Are we recording? (laughs) Chelsea Handler, welcome to the Morgan Stewart Show. - Oh my God, Morgan Stewart. - Are you kidding? - I'm Morgan Stewart. - You're, I can't even, Morgan Stewart. - However you wanna say it. - Let's try that again. Morgan Stewart, thank you for having me, is what I meant to say. - I wanna say genuinely from the bottom of my heart, I, we have a few people in common. - Who? - Well we have Justin Anderson in common. - Okay, I love him. - Cody is doing my highlights and your highlights. - He just did my hair two days ago. - You're fresh. - And he cut me, he cut my hair. - It's fresh. - It's a really good cut. - I said I need something fresh. - You look great. - Yeah. - You really though, I mean I know people tell you this all the time, but you look fucking insane. - Well, just. - Thank you. - You're obviously. - Yeah, I've access to all the things. - Yep. - And you also look pretty gorgeous. - I kind of have tried that. - Right back at you. - Thank you. I've chilled out lately on the Botox. - Yeah, me too. - Because it's getting heavy. - It's better just to do little nips and tocks, I think. - Yep. - Instead of doing Botox and filler, because I have too much expression. So if you kind of just keep everything, you know, everyone's in a while, you might have to do a little this a little bit. - Yeah, yeah. - But you, the filler is it. - It is it. - It moves around. - You don't want that in your face. You want to look like yourself. - Yes. - You just want to look fresh. - Fresh and like, and I also think I'm at this age now where it's like less is more because the more you do, the more you look like you're hiding. - And the more you look like everyone else. - Everyone's looking weird in this town. - People are starting to look the same. - The same. - Sometimes you drive. If you drive in a certain section of Beverly Hills. - Yes. - I was renting a house in this section. So I speak from my experience at that time. - I would be driving out of this house. And every day I would pass a woman on a street or be, you know, driving past a car to stop sign. And you couldn't tell if these women were 40 or 80. - Eight, I know. - It was so confusing because everyone has the same look now. - Yeah. - It's the lips. - And then the head, the eyes are up to high. The eyebrows are where, like sometimes they're, it's like that's not where eyebrows are. - That's not where eyebrows are. - And I am a firm believer that you do not fuck with your eyes. You don't do anything with your eyes. I have crows feet around my eyes and I like that because I am 50 when you're old. - I can't believe it. - I want to look fresh and I want to do the things, but I'm not going to, I don't want to look crazy. - Okay, so I actually, my assistant's like making eyes at me because on Friday, I have my second consultation to just do maybe a little removal of the fat on top. - Okay, that's fine. Are we good with that? - But some people do, like I don't, I'm not into the brow lift. I don't think that's a smart thing to do. And I've been told that by, you know, surgeons, like when I, I love talking to doctors. - Okay. - You know, anyone of my friends who's had work done, I am like the first person at the scene. - Yeah. - I'm like, let me see everything. - And, but I also, I think the upper blouse, the lower blouse, those things are fine. It's when you remove skin or you lift things. Like, you know, the neck is one thing, the forehead is another thing. - Right, right, right. Unless you have a giant forehead and you can afford to lose some of it. (laughing) Like, it just looks off. - I honestly, I don't think I've, I've been doing this podcast since March. I don't think I've genuinely laughed, like from anything someone has said. So this is going to be like, - Oh, really? - No, it's just because it's been a really, it's been honestly a big adjustment for me. I've never done something in this space and I'm like so locked in. It's almost become stressful, but this I already feel just like, you're just obviously a fucking pro and I'm so happy that you're here. - You're going to have a good time. - No, we're going to have a great fucking time. I literally was thinking about you so much this morning because in of all mornings, I've obviously been anticipating you coming on. I've been very nervous. I know everyone says you're amazing, but I've been nervous. This morning I wake up 615. My five-year-old daughter is knocking at the door, screaming her head off. She doesn't want to wear the certain dress that she has to wear for camp. My son doesn't want to like leave her side. He's four years old. Like, just the absolute most chaotic morning on like one of the most important mornings. I'm like, this would happen. The day Chelsea handler comes on my show. These fucking children of mine are going to make me fucking blow my head off. - Yes. They could sense that I was in your future. - They knew. - Get away from that child hater. - Literally, no, not you. - I don't hate children. I don't love children. - No, but I was literally like, of course, because it's-- - I don't even think so. - No, but to not have them is such a nice thought because they really don't leave you alone ever. - And it's just, it's unforgiving and incessant question. - It's questions about the moon and the sun and then the moon again. And I still don't, I haven't figured out what's going on with the moon. This eclipse has set me into a total dizzy. - A total dizzy? - Because I'm like, what's happening? The moon is passing in between the earth and the sun. Who's going where? But with regard to your children, what was I going to say? I was going to say something about children. - Did they're annoying? - No, they are. But they're also lovely and sweet. And I just, oh, I know what I was going to say. I just spent a couple weeks in Madrid. I went to Spanish school in Madrid. - If you think I don't know that, I do. - Okay, well, great for you for doing this research. I also feel bad that you had to do all this research. I could easily just come in here and have an hour long conversation about anything. - That's why I don't look at you. - So it doesn't even be nervous about anything. I can talk about whatever. But I went to Madrid and I was so, I had a couple of weeks on vacations with people. And then I had to explain myself in Madrid. - Completely alone? - Yes, alone. So a lot of people were coming through Madrid like friends of friends or people sent me up with friends of theirs that were coming through or friends that I knew from America. - Okay. - Anyway, I checked into the Rosewood there, which is, you know, one of my favorite hotels. - Okay. - I was like Eloise at the Plaza. I had my little backpack, which is a Mochía in Espanol. I had my little backpack. I went to school every day, like a little school girl. I bought all my little dresses. I was like, okay, today is Tuesday. You have to pack a lunch. And I walk 20 minutes every morning from the Rosewood to my Spanish school. - Okay. - And that was Spanish school, like a little small classroom for five or six days. - Was it just you in the classroom? - Sorry, five or six people. No, five or six people for two weeks straight, okay? So 10 days of Spanish school. She doesn't speak any English the whole time. It's only Spanish. So, you know, if you're hungover, you're not gonna get a lot. - You're fine. - You're like, you gotta go in at 100. So after one or two nights of being hungover, I was like, oh no, no, no, no. I need to be on, right? I'm like, no more going out. So anyway, I would do that for three hours. And then afterward, I would take myself to some beautiful restaurant in Madrid and have some gorgeous lunch by myself. With my book, I was reading the Clamety Club, and I was also practicing my Spanish homework because I was in school. - So you had literal homework? - I had a homework. And I would have a glass of wine, a couple at lunch, like Sauvignon blogs, these nice dry white wines in Spain, they have the best food, the best wine. And the whole time I was doing this, I was like, this must be, I was so happy. I was like, this must be what it feels like to be away from your child as a mother. This must be, I felt such a sense of freedom. And I'm like, why are you feeling this way? I'm not a mother, I don't have children. Yet I felt like they were taken care of and in a safe place without me. - Yeah, no, I'm telling you that is the sort of euphoria that like I envy because it truly is like, some days like you said, it's the most magical thing I've ever done, I love them more than anything. I also had them extremely close together, but just that word, that incessant like the morning just erupted and no matter how far into the parenting journey you're into, it is so overwhelming. And it just throws you and you're like, trying to eat protein, get the cortisol down and you're like, God, you're really not gonna shut the fuck up and you look like me. It's literally like, and you look like me and then even worse, you look like you're fucking father. - Yeah, that's it, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And you, you know. - And it might be an easier pill to swallow if it's your own reflection because you're like, oh, it's a little me. - It's a little me. - It's a little him. It's like, he's annoying that day. Then everybody's fucked. But the other thing about the parenting is, like I met a couple of women on this vacation that I hadn't known before, before I went to Madrid. I was on some other vacations. And two of these women had five children. - No, see, okay. - And I was like, I just kept asking them the most basic questions. I was like, how? And I come from six kids. - I was gonna say. - But that was a long time ago. And I was like, you guys, and they were just so cool hip women who had like five children who were like 20 to 28 years old. And I was like, wait, what? How's that even mathematically possible? (laughing) And I was just so blown away when anyone has multiple children and like is crushing it. And then they have a career. - Oh yeah. - Like Stella McCartney's a friend of mine. She's got four awesome children. And she runs like an empire. And I just don't understand. And people could say it's help and nannies. And sure, yes, of course. But still. - No, you got to be there. It is a massive responsibility to shape five people's brains and make sure that one of them doesn't turn into an asshole. - A psychopath, right? - Or a psychopath. - Literally, or like killing people. But no, I mean, I look at them and I'm like, I don't know how both of you are here outside of my body. And you're both at this point. I mean, they still have a wild, we have time to fuck them up. But for now, they're pretty decent. - Uh-huh, how old are they? - Five and four. - Okay. My daughter's starting kindergarten. - I'm gonna be pretty fucked up if they were already fucked up at four. - No, but like I will say. - And you would really have to rethink your game plan. If you're like, you already have a four-year-old asshole and you're like, whoops, you do it all. - First of all, you know this. I'm obsessed with you. I wanna talk about, I've been going through like your timelines. I need to talk, we're going back to 19-year-old Chelsea. Are we okay with that timeline? - Yeah. - Livingston, New Jersey, you're one of six. I have to tell you something you don't care about. Your Pisces son. - Is this gonna be about the eclipse? - You don't give a shit. - No, I-- - It's not about the eclipse. - I do wanna, I do wanna hear about that. - Do you know your rising sign? - I think it's Capricorn. - It's not. - Oh. - I do the Lord's work on this show. - I mean, how did you know this about me? - I have done nothing but think about you, look at you, and talk about you for five days. - Don't you need to know my birth, time of birth, for the rising? - It's on Astro charts. - Oh, what is it? - It is Virgo Rising. I am also a Virgo Rising. So I was like, thank God, we're in the right vicinity. And you're a Virgo moon. - Okay, okay, can you tell me what my time of birth is? Do you know that? - I didn't write that down, but it's on Astro charts. Livingston, New Jersey, Mother's May is German, like it gives you a whole thing. - Okay, okay, so Virgo Rising and Virgo. - Moon, moon. - So first and foremost, are you an extremely organized, not at all? - My life is organized by other people. I am not the one. - Okay, so when do you pack yourself? - No. - Do you tell the person how to pack you? - They know. (laughing) - Are you specific with it? - Pretty specific about everyone that works with me. - Mm-hmm. - We're team. (laughing) - The team leader and the we're a team. Everyone who works with me is pretty locked in. - Okay, 'cause Virgo Moon, specifically of all the Virgos, is like the most organized. So I was like, I wonder if she's really organized. Virgo Rising is like creative organized. - I'm organized in my head and I am very, oh, yes. When I have to be organized, if it has to be me, yes. - Okay. - But I prefer to delegate that to other people. - Right. - I don't wanna pack my own suitcase and I try not to. - You unpack? - No. - Sometimes I do, if I'm on a trip and there's no one there to help me, then yes, I unpack. - I love it. - And then when I do organize, because I spend so little time actually organizing in my life at this stage in my life, it's like a baby is trying to, like I'm like, okay, I'm gonna fold all these shirts and then I get excited about it. I'm like, okay, I'm gonna organize this and then I'm gonna, and then I'm gonna put the, and then halfway into the task, I've course just losing trust. - You're still over it. - And I'm like, this is not me. So that's how I know I'm not a type A personality. - Your type B personality. - I don't know. I think it's more like a type Z, like it's really up for grabs. It really depends on what's happening. But I just, I special shout out to the team of people I work with because they make my life so lovely. - Right. - Yeah, and they just set my life up in a way. Like I went to New York last week and I know this is not relatable to most people, but I always have to say that. - No, no, I just want to make, I don't want to pretend I'm living a life that I'm not or pretend and be fake. This is my life. So it's okay. I just don't, you know, I understand it's not everybody's life. But I went and checked into this hotel in New York last week. I was coming from Madrid. - Okay. - And I always stay at the same place. And the hotel, they always have my things. They have like a toilet your kit that they keep for me. They keep like things for me in case I'm coming in and out quickly and I don't, you know, want to bring bags or whatever. - A dream. - A dream situation already. - I love it. - I get in and they have all, I get into the hotel room. Not only have they steamed an iron, all my clothes. It's hanging. My assistant had done this. Or someone from the hotel had done this. However, they all organized it together. It was such a dream scenario that when I walked in, I just was like, and then all of my lotions and potions were laid out on the counter in the bathroom. And then all of my supplements and my, you know, my, my squeeze vitamin C and my, what is the stuff that we have to take now for muscle retention? - Creatine. - Creatine, my creatine gel packs. Everything was just lined up in my hotel room. And I just sat down with tears in my eyes and I'm like, I'm so lucky to be having these people do these things for me. Like, I'm so grateful. And I just love this. And this is exactly how I hoped my life would turn out. - No. (both laughing) - By the way, as a little girl living in such chaos, like my family, there was no organization. There were, you would like you to find like a clean fork. You know what I mean? - I was literally, I was saying to you earlier, I watched the special the feeling. And when you explain the story about your dad for so having a non-job, I was sobbing, like dying. And then when you, you had one particular line that you guys like went to Disney World once. Do you remember this? Obviously, you're like, yeah, it was my life. You went to Disneyland and then he was like, gonna stop at some random motel that said no vacancy. And you were like, Stevie fucking wondered, did you see the sign? - No vacancy. - No vacancy. - You idiot. - I fucking died when you said that. - When I was like 11, it was right, no. It was before my butt mitzvah. So I was like, probably 12-ish. At one point, I sat my father down and my mother down. And I was like, I need to see some sort of financial statements. I wanna know what is going on financially with you guys. And what's the plan? Is there a plan? And my dad looked at my mother. My mother was like, oh my God, this girl's unbelievable. And I was like, do you guys have a plan? Because I'm pretty sure there's nothing planned. We have no savings. And it's just kind of like month to month. That's what we're dealing with. And so, yeah. So from a very early age, I wanted, I understood what I'd that I wanted more for myself. Do you feel like you were genuinely like 35 and you were born? It sounds like you were always very ahead psychologically and aware of your surroundings beyond the ages you were. - Yes, because when you're the youngest of six children, you grow up fast. You pick up on the vibes of what's being thrown down. You hear conversations that are inappropriate for children. - Right. - So you're just getting more information all the time. And then you learn quickly how to navigate through that, because it's like, how are you going to get attention? How are you going to get noticed? - Right. - Like, oh, okay, I'm going to be funny. My whole family's funny. We're all funny, yeah. - We all? - Was your mom funny? - Yeah, in her own way. - Okay. - She was like a quiet funny. She would say stuff under her breath and be like, mm-hmm. - Like mom funny. - Like, she'd call me at four, when I moved to LA when I was 19 and I had my very first apartment, I remember, like, if I didn't call my mom for a couple of days, the phone would ring. This is when we still headly in lines. And the phone would ring at, like, 4.30 in the morning at LA time. And I'd pick it up because, of course, you think it's an emergency and my mom would be like, hi, sweetie. And I'd be like, it's 4.30 in the morning. - What the fuck are you doing? - And she's like, my daughter hasn't called me in three days, so I thought I'd wake her up. And then she'd be like, have a nice day and hang up. That was my mom's kind of funny. - Did she have an accent? - She was German. - I know, I know. But I don't know. I can't really do accents. - No, same, by the way. I sound really stupid when I do things. - But did she have one? - Yes. But not as strong. Not like what you think of as your stereotypical German woman. She was very, my mother was demure. She was soft and gentle. - What was her birthday? - She was a tourist. Her birthday was May 3rd. And she was really sweet and loving and, like, a big, like, a lover. You just wanted to get in to bed with her and then she would give you a snickers, you know? - Oh, I love that. - Like, I come home from school and there was, like, a vat of macaroni and cheese. At three o'clock in the afternoon, which is not an afterschool snack. - No, no. So these were a lot of bad habits to have to disabuse myself of once I became an adult. I was, like, macaroni and cheese isn't a snack. It's a meal. - It's a full meal. It's a full meal. - Okay, 19, you come to LA. What made you come, you wanted to pursue acting at that point? - I just thought, wow, someone's going to just have to discover me at some point. Like, I really believed I just had something to offer. - You knew you were, but did you know at that point, like, you were extremely talented and extremely funny? - I, I, no, I wouldn't say I knew I was extremely talented. I, I don't even think I would say that today. I would say that I was driven. - Okay. - And sometimes being driven is more important than any of the other ingredients. - 100%. - And I had my eye on a prize, and I was going to get it, and I was going to figure it out. And I came here, I had an aunt on Google lived here. So that was a softer landing. - Yeah, in Belair. - Yeah, they lived in Belair, which makes them sound wealthy. They did, we're not wealthy. - Okay. - Because they lived on Beverly Glen Boulevard in these two little houses that connected. I think it's gone, actually. I think the house was raised because it was declared unfit for living. And they had nine children, four dogs and three parrots. So it was ridiculous. - Wow. - And I slept on the couch, and I drove the kids to school every morning in this Volkswagen W bus. - Oh my God. - And I would make them listen to Howard Stern in the morning, and I started waiting tables, and that was my introduction to Los Angeles. And I just thought, okay, I'm going to figure out what to do now. Let's figure it out. - Okay. Okay, but then you go back home again. - Yeah, I would visit home. - Oh, so you didn't move back home. The internet's wrong, and I'm furious at the internet. - Oh my God, did you ask Claude? - No, I didn't. I did real things, but it literally said you came at 19, you went home, and then you moved back at 27. So that's not true. - Oh no, no. - Okay. - I didn't know license. I was 19 years old. - Did you were 19? Okay. - Well listen, once you get out of New Jersey, you don't go back. - You don't go back. - I feel like we have some big stars coming out of New Jersey, though. Like it's crazy. - Yeah, a lot of that's because you leave. - You leave. - Right. - Because you're not meeting a lot of people from North Dakota, which is implausible to be. I don't even, it's incomprehensible why anyone wants to stay there, but you meet a lot of people from New Jersey. - Yeah. Okay, so then you're in LA, and then when you're doing, what's the first big job? - Okay, let me think. - Bad girls club? - Not bad girls club, I'm sorry. - Oh, girls. - I was just kidding. - That was my first big regular gig. I got a guest star role on the practice. Oh, so that was. my first break. And I remember being on the phone with my sister Simone and I was crying. And I was like, I was like 26 maybe. And I've been doing stand up for about five years, six years. I started doing stand up was 21ish. So five, four or five years. And I was like, I just, what if I don't make it? I had been waiting tables for four or five years. And I was like scraping by, you know, having a great time party. Was it fun? Like did you love LA then? Was it amazing? Yeah, but it was always, it was always the avenue to get to the career. Like it was here. And it was serving as a function to get to the next. Like my life was going to begin when I had a job. And I started to work in this profession, even though I didn't even know exactly what that was going to look like. And then I was talking to her. And she's like, you're not going to, you're going to make it in this business because you're incapable of anything else, Chelsea. Like this is what you're supposed to do. She goes, so it's not going to happen when you want it to happen. But if you just keep putting all your efforts towards this, it will happen. And as we were on this phone call, my sister, who's like, you know, also a second mother, because my mom had six kids. So she was pretty wiped out. So she was like sleeping a lot. How much older is Simone than you? 10 years. Okay. Okay. And as we were on this phone call, they called on the other line. And it was an offer for my very first guest star on the practice where I was playing a rape victim who had to testify in court. And they, and they gave, you know, it was the first job I, a real job I ever gotten acting. Wow. And I was like, and it was just after my sister had said that to me. So it was a really amazing kind of moment that I'll never forget because you just really never know when the good things are going to come your way. Whatever business you're in, you don't know when you're going to get good news. And sometimes it happens right after, you know, a really a big set of bad news or bad circumstance. Um, and so that was my very first job. And then my very first like TV show that I was a regular on was called Girls Behaving Valley. And I was on the oxygen network. And that was really a lot of fun. I have a vivid memory of you in the skit being pregnant doing shots. Yes. Like that to me has like always stood out and you did that so well. And then how do we get from that to Chelsea lately? Well, I did, uh, I did Girls Behaving Valley. Then I did my very first book. And then I was doing. Oh, I was doing those. I was doing stuff on the tonight show a lot, Correspondent stuff for Jay Leno. And then I was doing those clip shows on e. They had these clips. Show where you would court. It would show like reels of celebrities or like, what's happening? You would comment, right? Like I would comment. Like he's an idiot or. And off of that, he approached me and said, you, we want to do something with you. You know, do you want to do it? So we decided to do this kind of sketch show. Okay. It was called the Chelsea Handler Show. Maybe a project. I think everything is called. But that is such a huge fucking a comp. I was literally talking to my assistant. I'm like, I need to understand like going from like being, you're not nearly that long compared to other people. And by literally 31, you have a show on e with your name in it. That is huge. Yes. And that show was not successful. Right. But that show parlayed into Chelsea lately because they were like, it just took too long to film. And like for what, for the money at cost and the amount of footage we could accumulate, it just didn't make sense. And they were like, we, but we still want you for something because you've got something going on, right? Yeah. Yeah. So they saw like something in me and that I was so grateful. And I was like, okay. And they're like, do you want to do a late night show? We've never were thinking about doing that with you. And I was like, yeah, I'll do whatever. Let's try. So we did it. And then that was just kind of like, like whatever stars were aligning at that. I've been hearing so much about this eclipse that you nervous. Because you know, we're all about to enter some new 12 year cycle. And I'm like, and I know like you have to be paying attention. I'm like, okay, I'm on deck. I'm ready. I want because if you, if you miss and you're not conscious of this new cycle, we're stepping into, then you could get stuck in the old cycle. No, it's fucking crazy. This eclipse. First of all, there's like a clips every six weeks. I know there's always like a new eclipse. I'm murderous and retrograde every other Thursday. And by the way, I am, I am that girl, right? Like I'm very involved in the stars and the planets and all of it. But like the eclipse, I like can't get. I'm like, what is happening? But it's also an eclipse in Leo. So I don't think that that matters for our signs, our planetary placement. Well, for whatever's popping up on my algorithm seems to think that it does really affect me specifically because it's Pisces, Pisces, Pisces, Pisces. Pay attention, Pisces. Pay attention. I'm like, oh my god, get this off my algorithm. Are you swiping on TikTok? No, I'm not on TikTok. Not on TikTok. No. Just Instagram. I mean, I have a social media team that we post stuff on TikTok, but I do not have TikTok on my phone. Okay. So we're at Chelsea lately. And you're literally like, okay, let's do it. Uh, yeah, we start doing that show. And then that show just like flew off. I remember. I mean, it was like took off. I don't think I even understood what was happening until after until it was finished. Yeah. Like I, I just thought I was, I had, that show was so fun. And we were so silly and stupid. Like our office was ridiculous. All I would do is go in and sneak into other people's offices and send emails to like, human resources at E from this person with a completely inappropriate like sexual question. Oh, the days, I wish I'd be back. I got my period this, and it'd be from a guy's computer. I'd be like, I got my period this morning. I'm just wondering if I can leave early. And it would send it to the head of human research. And then they'd get the return email and be like, what? What is this? So like, that's, that was the tenor of the office. It was one practical joke after another. Oh my god, you were hilarious. Yeah. I mean, of course. And then the show just really started to hit. And, yeah, and it just seemed like everything was just working easily. I mean, I vividly remember Chelsea, when I was doing my show for E when we first started, they were like, what do you want to be? I was like, I want to be Chelsea handler. Oh my god. I want to be Chelsea handler. I mean, think about just I know that you're so funny and you're obviously so wonderful in person. But like, it's such a small group of women that have accomplished kind of what you have. I mean, I literally think of like, it's like you, Joan Rivers, Lucille Ball, Carol Burnett, like, there's not a lot of women that even though it was so fun and lighthearted and easy for you, you know, that's a huge deal. It was, it was, thank you. It was a huge deal. And I think, I'm glad I didn't know what was happening while it was happening because I would have been in my, I wasn't in my head at all when I was doing that. I was just having a good time doing the, what I thought was the right thing, you know, trying to treat my staff like, make it the most fun place to work. That's what I cared about. Even more, you know, we would get the ratings every day and they just kept climbing and climbing. And I'd be like, oh my god. I can't believe people are liking this. And then we get bigger and bigger guests. You know, so that was all wonderful. But it really makes you think about like, you know, there are times where things are just easy. And then there are times where your, where things are more difficult. And like, you know, some time, and you, and you really never know which way the wind is going to blow. Like, so when things are going easy, it's always a reminder just to go, okay, make a note of this. Make a note of it. Make a note of it. You're swimming downstream, you know, because sometimes it feels like you're fighting or you're hustling or trying and you're not getting there. And sometimes you just have to let things happen the way that they're supposed to happen instead, and instead of going in the wrong direction. Yeah. And I also think what you said is so important and just reminds me like being in your head, not being in your head is when the magic flows. Like if you're constantly trying to micromanage or you're hyper aware of how you, you're present or just it doesn't, that magic doesn't come in the show probably wouldn't have done as well. Yeah. And it's important to just sort of like be in the moment, have fun. Like, I'm literally sitting here now. If you would have told me 10 years ago that I'm going to be interviewing Chelsea handler on my podcast, I would have been like, you're out of your fucking mind that's never going to happen. And meanwhile, I've done this show since March, like I told you, and I have been like, why? And just like, why isn't it better? Why isn't it growing? And it's like, you just have to kind of go with whatever the fuck life is throwing at you in that moment and just be grateful for what you have. No, when you're doing the work, the work is going to result in something. Right. Am I doing the work? You are. Obviously doing the work has even been thinking about me for five days. For you, I have been thinking about you for five days. So like you just have to, you're sitting here, you're here. Like when you are in your head, I did this when I did my Netflix show. I was not. It was the opposite of Chelsea lately. Okay. I was. I was. Chelsea does. Chelsea. No, no, that was that was fun. That was easy. And my talk show at Netflix. It was just called Chelsea. Yeah. Chelsea. And now I'm pronouncing my name to really. And that was just not as it wasn't. I was in my head. I was like, is this because I was moving into a different territory. And I was a departure from me. And nobody could understand why I would have quit that job. But that didn't bother me. I don't care why, you know, what people think about that. That. Yeah. It's like I was done. But. So. And then, but it was a real lesson and contrast for me. Now in retrospect, I can see it so clearly. One point in my life for those seven years, I had no care in the world. When I did my documentaries for Netflix and all my Chelsea does series and I same thing. Yeah. Easy, easy, easy. But for some reason, the two years I did my talk show Chelsea, I just never felt right. It never felt like I had my groove on. And I was too self conscious. And it took me and I had just started therapy at that time. So I was also being really thoughtful about everything I was doing because I was trying to re-calibrate and kind of get to the next level of who I am. So I think all of that, Trump got elected for the first time. That was when. Were you not happy about that? No, I was a lady. I thought that was great for our country. It still is. It's still working out great. And, and so then, uh, yeah, so the, but, but, but also you always have to give yourself grace. Did you get, were you good at giving yourself grace? No, not yet. Let's talk about that. So, congratulations. I hated myself at that time. Well, I was going to say, did you ever like through the two years where you like, God, I'm not in a groove. And were you irritable about that? Were you kind of frustrated with your team? Were you like, I can't fucking get this to work the way I want? There were a lot of frustrations. First of all, it was a brand new medium for Netflix. So, yeah, a lot of it was like, we're all coming together and nobody really knows how what's going to work or if it's going to work. And they were, you know, Netflix was awesome. But there was just a lot of like different stuff to have to deal with. And I, you're taking care of a lot of people. And you are the front and center thing of the whole thing. So, you really want to put on a brief face. And you can't be crumbling in front of 100 people that work for you every day because you're there to lift them up. And so, that was really hard because I wasn't in the position to lift them up. And I was had to pretend. Yeah. And that just spirals you even more and makes you more nervous. That's just very transparent when someone is pretending. Yeah, it is, right? You think people could catch on. They knew. I'm sure. Yeah. Yeah. It is, it is definitely one of those things where it's like not only are you the star and you're the executor, but then you also are the leader to the people behind the scenes. Like, I don't think people realize that everyone I think or people not in this industry, it's easy to view somebody like you. It's like, she's front and center. And then she's got a team and she's got all these people around, like, lifting her. And it's like, it's actually kind of the opposite. She's the one that sets the tone here. Yes. There's not a lot of lifting up. I mean, there is, like, like, no one's lifting me up. But I say that, but I mean, my personal team and, you know, yeah, they are, they take care of me so that I can go and do stuff. But, but in terms of, you know, the show, you got to be, you have to bring it every single time. And like, I just wasn't feeling myself. And I wasn't, yeah, the vibe wasn't, wasn't the right vibe for me. When it ended, were you happy? I was relieved. Relieved. Yeah. I mean, I wasn't happy because it felt like a failure. And, you know, it was, it wasn't a successful thing, you know? So, so it was kind of like, uh, no, it didn't feel good. I understand. But also like, you've had, you have had seven New York best time, like best sellers. I mean, that is insane. I know. I can't believe we went there anytime anyone says that to me. I'm like, I can't believe it. I always think of like my seven year old self. And like, can you imagine if I she knew what was gonna happen? Chelsea was seven years. Chelsea lately. Chelsea lately was seven years. Do you have a favorite, favorite two interviews from that show? Uh, one, there was one time where Will Farrell, we switched studios. They gave us a big new studio. I remember that, which might be random. This is so not over time. Your hair always really looked good on the show. Thank you. Not easy to do on TV every night. Oh, thank you. Yeah. I tried to have had some issues. We're fine. Um, yeah. I've had some issues too. Um, so Will Farrell, Will Farrell. Oh, yeah. We introduced the new stage. I was like circular, right? Like there was a lot. And it was just bigger. There's a brand new stage. There's a lot. And we was just so exciting because they were like, okay, this show is real. We want us, you know, we're, you know, signing you up for love of law for more years, I think at that point. And so we were like moving into like moving on up. We're the Jefferson's. And so Will Farrell, for the first episode, I'm doing the round. I do my monologue. I go to the round table and he just comes out like on a go kart, like a golf cart and just is sitting behind me, but it never addresses me and just sat there. And I think he had a couple lines or something. And that was pretty fucking funny. Like he is probably, you know, if not the funniest person, obviously one of the top five funniest people ever, I think. Okay. And I just love Will Farrell. He's so affable. I mean, I feel like he just also was like, he doesn't, he just keeps getting big. I mean, everyone's just newer generations are exactly. And that was just a real cementing of like, oh, I'm exactly where I'm supposed to be. I've been, like, he was such a huge star. And we had had huge stars on the show. But for him to come and like, annoyed the stage in that way, so to speak, even though it was such a silly bit, that was really fun. You know, and then I did a couple of these like shower scenes. Okay. One with where we would take naked showers together. I remember that vaguely. I did it with Sandy Bullock and I did it with Ellen DeGeneres. And then I did one with Conan. And those were just really awesome viral, huge like moments that we shot. And the fact that we were able to pull that kind of stuff together was always just great. So it just like that. When we moved into that studio, I was like, okay, now let's get like, let's it added a level of professionalism that we didn't have when we were in West LA shooting at this tiny little studio when the show started. You were not at E on Wilshire. No, no, no. Oh, wow. Okay. I don't think I ever was there. Oh, okay. Okay. So then those, I remember that I have Sandy Bullock. I feel like that's when you're a real famous person when you refer to Sandra Bullock as Sandy. That is when you know, like, if you're doing nicknames at Sandy, like, if you're doing Annie half the way, you are a famous person if you're doing and you've never met her. That is like the level. Okay. So that I tell say lately, I mean, I just feel like I have so many memories of that show and just like watching you and like, again, like, you were the one to do it. You were the one to kind of set that. Did you ever think, I mean, looking back now at your career, is there anything now that you're like, I still want to do this? Um, right now, yes. Well, there are a couple things. Oh, okay. Well, first of all, I'm on tour doing stand up, which I had taken about a six year break from when I left E. I was like, I'm done. I mean, sorry, Netflix. When I was done with Netflix, I think I did another documentary for them called, you know, are you their privilege? It's me, Chelsea. I did one more show with them. And then I was like, okay, what am I doing? And I hadn't done stand up since I stopped E. Wow. I just was so burnt out because I'd written like four books over the seven years. I was touring. I did like four huge tours and I just was so burnt out. So I took six years off of stand up. And then I returned to stand up, I think around the pandemic, during the pandemic, I just started going, you know what? I have something new to say. And you missed it. Did you miss it? Are you or two? I didn't miss it. Okay. I didn't miss it. And now. And I've done about three specials in a year. I'm about to take my fourth special in like four years because I fell so much more in love with it coming back to it than I had ever been in love with it and to begin with. Like my love had grown so much from being. It was kind of like when I moved away from my parents. Yeah. I finally started to get along with them. Like I took a break from stand up and then I realized when I came back on the stage, like, oh, this is really what you're supposed to be doing. First and foremost is just to be bringing entertainment to people and to be looking out at people who are strangers that are sitting next to each other and laughing together. Like that is a provider of joy. And like what about your middle name? How is your middle name joy? When I saw that this week, I'm like, what are the chances of that? That is crazy. That's like the universe. Like that is above us not to get really woo woo on you. But like it's true. I know. I do. I like that. I like that. My middle name is Joy now because I am a joyful person now. I haven't always been. But I am. And I, and so like right now I'm on this high and mighty tour. I'm about to film a special in Vancouver. But I, this like being on and then I come home and I would never do. Once I got really famous, I started, I stopped doing sets around town because I was always on tour and I was working. I wasn't going to go out on a Tuesday night and do a set at the improv. Right, right, right. And the last year I, when I'm here, I go like I just, I did two sets this week at the improv. I did a set at the comedy store. I am so into stand up that I'm doing like all of the things that people who love stand up do. Whereas I was getting all of that stuff without doing half of the stuff. Do you know what I mean? 100%. And I just was like, it's so funny to come back to things. It's so nice to come back to things in a way where you grow a fondness and appreciation and a respect for what you're doing. Instead of letting it use you or you, you know, yeah, you're using, you're using it to propel yourself forward and make people feel good versus you kind of being taken with it. Yes. In that sense, I mean, it can work both ways. Like I think I was, I was running so hard so fast so long when I was doing Chelsea lately that I was missing a lot of it because it was just too quick. Like I did three nights at Radio City and I'm like, I barely remember because it was such a whirlwind. I did, I did so many seminal, huge things, but I was moving so fast that I couldn't even see what was happening or enjoy it. Take a second to enjoy it. I would take it in. Yeah, burnt out. So now we have chills. Oh, I have to know it's so true because you literally just focus on micromanaging sometimes and making sure things are big enough and having the right guess and having the right set, having the right lighting, the lighting needs to be good still. But and then you're like, wait, I've done all this shit and I don't even, I wasn't even there for that because I was so focused on making sure that we got to the next thing. Yes. And and making sure, you know, and you're tired and you're working hard and and I was like, no, no, no, this isn't how I'm going to do this. I'm now I have a whole different mentality. Now it's like, yeah, I co-around town, I do the sets, I'm doing my shows, you know, my next shows in Santa Barbara, or no, I'm going to Calgary this weekend, and then my next shows in Santa Barbara next month. And I'm like, I'm just so focused and there's a graciousness that I didn't have when I was younger. - And maybe more relaxed? - More just calibrated. Yes, way more relaxed, I don't have that at all anymore. But just, it's refined, and you're like, oh, this is what's so great about aging, is that you get the opportunity to just keep recalibrating in what you're good at. And you keep making it better, and you become more confident, because you have the data to back up what you're able to do. I'm the one who got me here. I moved here when I was 19. - Flip it. - Like, this is how, now I have the opportunity to keep getting better and better and better. Like, oh my God, yeah, let's go. - That's fucking good, that is so. I mean, what else do you want out of a career, out of a life, out of a sense of self, to be able to have accomplished all of these things, and even have enough time to still be, I mean, to use this word relevant, people care, people want to see you, and to be able to do that while you enjoy it is so special. 'Cause I think a lot of people go through their career, and it's really just becomes about having a career in versus like enjoying that career. - Absolutely, I mean, you see people working hard and all the time that don't love their jobs. Like, I have family members that don't love their jobs, you know? And hopefully none of their bosses are listening to this. (laughing) But like, you know, it's just really, yes, I'm so grateful that I get to make a living by being myself. That's what I'm making money doing. It's being myself. - Literally, like, such a gift. - And what a, like, it's such an honor, to be able to like have a fan base for this long, to be able to have fans like that are ardent. Like, you know, you preparing so much to just interview me or even dreaming about having me on the show. Like, see here that you're just like, what? Like, you don't even know what's going on around you because you get so wrapped up in your own life that it's just wonderful. Like, you're just like, okay, this is awesome. Like, you gotta be the best version of yourself. I've gotten so much better at like, you know, with, with conflict. I, you know, I've gotten so much-- - Wait, what do you mean by that conflict? Like, are you like, like, being direct confrontation? Like, like, saying what you feel? - Well, I've always said what I felt, but I never thought about saying, thought about it before it came out of my mouth. So I had no problem expressing myself that's never been my issue. - Right. - But I'm a lot more thoughtful when I have to have, you know, a difficult conversation. I'm, I'm a lot calmer. I don't yell at things or people anymore. I don't have a reaction. I'm not reactive in the way that I was when I was younger because I'm more knowledgeable, unsaner, and more mature. - Yeah. - And so that's a huge advantage too. Like, as you age as a woman, you're just like, you just keep starting to dig more and more how mature you feel in like a sexy way, not a not sexy way. - Oh, we want to do it in a sexy way. - You're like, okay, let me deal with this situation. Are you currently in therapy? - You still do therapy? - I do it's like if it's like more of like spot checking. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Like if I have a situation or if I have to get out of something or I'm like, oh, or I'm having, or if I'm having like a low period, if I'm not feeling this way that I'm feeling right now in this moment, if I'm not feeling up or I'm feeling low for a period of time, I go in and check in and I'm like, I'm having these kind of negative thoughts about myself or I don't like this kind of of narrative that I'm feeding myself. And you know, that's just part and parcel of the world we live in, the industry that I am. - 100%. - But that's not who I am. So when I feel that way, it's off. - It's like maintenance. It's just going in. How long have you had your therapist? I'm trying to-- - Since I was 40. 'Cause I started going to therapy at 40 when I was doing the Netflix show. When Trump got elected, I had to go to therapy. (laughing) - I would go to therapy for like the first six sessions which is like I was so angry. And I would just bitch to the therapist about Ivanka Trump, Donald Trump Jr. - The whole team. - I just was like, I can't believe this. - And is the therapist writing notes during this time? - This seems like it's about something else. Like he let me vent for a couple sessions and then was like, let's get down to business. - Oh, okay, but anger is directed at something. This is not where your anger is coming from. - That's a good, that's why you've had that therapist 10 years because-- - Yeah, he's a genius. He's pretty smart. He's written tons of New York Times best selling books. His name is Dan Siegel and he's written a ton of books on child adolescence, like raising kids. He's really smart. And I've worked with him for a long time and yeah, and I see him occasionally when I need to. - Okay, I love it. Okay, so another thing you just, do you also need a drink of water? I like make my guest talk for hours. And then I'm like, do we need a water break? - Yes, we do this. I was recording my podcast yesterday at my house and I gave, I have this spot, and I gave my guest some and my co-hosts in myself were drinking. And then no one took a sip for the rest of the hour and I was like, oh, nobody likes my vodka. And then it's like, no, we're just talking. It's hard to like remember to drink when you're talking. - Can I tell you, I literally, I like have guests and we do this for a whole hour and I'm like, well, do you need a minute? 'Cause I keep asking you question after question. I'm like, I don't know, you need to be parched on me. - Either way, my Owls Brew Lemonade just shout out. Owls Brew Chelsea Handler Vodka Lemonade is a perfect summer drink and it's the most refreshing summer day drink you will have. - Why don't we fucking have that today guys? - I have plug, soft plug. - No, hard plug because I asked the team. I said, what is Chelsea like to drink? And they said, quote, doesn't care about wine, likes Tanca Ray and wants a sugar-free can and a dry ginger ale. - Well, I don't know if there's Tanca Ray and 11. - I want you to, I want you to, I brought her sweaters from Wrangly Soft Plug. We'll see if you like them. - Oh, you're so sweet. - There's a bottle, I just want the listeners to know there is a full bottle of Tanca Ray gin. - Can you imagine if I went through this entire bottle? First of all, I haven't opened it because I'm not gonna have a drink at 11. No shame to everybody else who's doing that. - I will crack that open. - And also enjoy the rest of your day. But yeah, I have too much to do today to do that. But I will take it, I will take it. I'll add this to my collection at my house. - We need the lemonade next time. - You're gonna have to sign it for me though. - I will, clip it or I'll freak out. I'll freak out, I'm gonna cry and freak out. Are we talking about manners? Am I out of time, can I ask her about manners? - Okay, first of all, my biggest thing and I think having, and I don't want to say that I said this earlier, having American parents versus European parents isn't that big of it. It's kind of different. My mom, when I was a kid, was like, if you don't say please and thank you and be respectful to the people, the waiters or the waitresses or whoever is offering support and help, you don't get shit. I was told from such an early age, you need to be behaving correctly and be respectful of people, their things, their home. You don't go in people's bedrooms without asking, you don't open closets and drawers, you don't take things. That was so drilled into me and growing up, I didn't have friends, I always behave that way and now I'm trying to instill that in my kids. They're on the floor, they have Apple saw, I'm like, pick it up, grow it away. - Yeah, seriously. - Please, thank you. - Pick it up. - Pick it up, they have nannies, but I'm literally like. - I don't even leave. I have people that work in my house who are cleaning at my house. I would never leave. Well, I wouldn't say never 'cause I'm sure it's happened but I won't even leave something on the floor. I will pick it and by the way, my parents didn't teach me. They didn't, I had to learn the big role way by traveling around the world and understanding what's acceptable, what's not. My brothers and sisters are pretty good with manners but we just weren't drilled into it. And my dad definitely, my dad's table manners alone. He would have a hot Pisterami sandwich at the kitchen table and I will never forget this image of, it's like it was a dryer on the spin cycle. Watching that Pisterami float around his mouth and I was like, you're disgusting. So like, that was me learning what not to do. It was more of an example of, my dad was very shady. He was a used car dealer. So I. - Get the way you explain him. - The way he treated people, I did not like that. And I was like, that's not on the up and up. Like, I am very honest about stuff. I don't want anyone to feel cheated. I want everyone to get paid for their work and extra. If you do a good job, you know? Like, you don't, I'm not trying to hustle and I'm not trying to bargain. I don't like that. I don't have that gene. So when people are like, you know, I'd rather pay extra to not bargain. - I'm not dealing with shit. I'm the same way. - But like, my dad just was not. I so I learned a lot from what, I learned a lot about what not to do. And I knew I was gonna have a very big life because I was always desirous of that. - Yeah. - I knew I was gonna travel the world. I knew I was gonna wanna live in different countries and do different things and, you know, take lovers. - Oh my goodness. - Taking lovers. - Taking lovers. - I just, I've taken lovers, you know what I mean? How fun is that? - Amazing. - So fun. - I literally, I mean, that is like, that is like what life is all about. But you posted, you went on trip with your family. - Yes. - Okay. These, you know when people sent me these? - I got, do you want to know the funny story about that letter? I wrote that letter four years ago. I put it in my last book. For two years ago, it was published in my last book or last year, maybe in my book. Yeah, it was last year. Anyway, I wrote this letter to my family after a summer trip we went on. I'm Martha's Vineyard. Martha's Vineyard. - This is not the childhood home though. - This is a different one. - No, no, this is a house that I rented. - Okay. - Okay. - And for my family of 20 people. - Oh. - And it was, you know, it's expensive. - That's sure. - So I wrote this letter and before I sent it, this was posted, I had been to therapy. So I had a better way of talking about things instead of, you know, like there's a nice way to say everything. - Yeah. - So I wrote this letter and I sent it to two mothers that I was friends with just to get their feedback. And they were both like, this is absolutely incredible letter A, B, can we use this letter and we'll take your name off of it because I want to like to send this to a bunch of friends. And I was like, oh, okay, sure. A year later, a friend of mine sent me my own letter and said, this is a great letter that you should send to your family. And I was like, I wrote this letter. So based on that, like run of events, I was like, oh, this letter must be really good. So I wanted to share it. Like, I was like, this is going to help more people than hurt my family. They can all fuck off because I had to write that letter anyway. And they've ponied up since in their defense. They, you know, they all came around and realized, oh, whoopsie, dude, we can't act like that. We can't act like that. And vacations have taken the dirt. Yes, yes, they have. How many, how many nieces in that book? So this is not from this summer. This is not because they were acting up. No, no, no, no. That was in my, I'll have what she's having my latest book. But it was a letter that, since it is summer and people are traveling, yeah, I thought it might be apt to, to actually, my social media team send, they send me things in the morning saying, do you want to post this? Do you like this? Yeah. Sometimes it's old clips. Sometimes it's new things. Sometimes it's whatever. And they're like, what about this letter? Do you? And I was like, yeah, let's post it. And then the response was just crazy. The response is so crazy because everything is so valid. And I don't think people understand like if somebody is organizing a trip or I organize a trip for my friends every single summer, they contribute in different ways. Yeah, it's very nice. But being a good guest is your part. If you're not financially contributing to the vacation, you need to contribute in vibes in manners and being a good guest and not taking over resources that aren't necessarily, yeah, they're available. But if you're the guest, you don't take them. Right. Like, you don't need the people to help pack for you. You can pack for yourself. Yes, right. Right, right, right. You know, like those things, I think it's so refreshing to see stuff like this because I think like basic manners now specifically were like in such a world where people are so much more self-obsessed than they've ever been. And people like you came on today. So fucking easy. There was not a glam request. There wasn't like, not if you, we would have done whatever you wanted. But like, I feel like the more secure you are with yourself and like the more you've accomplished the nicer you are. And then like, sorry about that. By the way, if you need to take the call, we'll wait. No, you know what? I was on the phone my agent this morning and he's like, do you see how I called you three times yesterday? And I was like, no, my fingers off. He goes, Jesse, you need to turn your fucking ringer on. I'm like, why? Who's calling me? Meanwhile, then now my phone is blowing up because my ringer's on. I fucking love it. This is why I have it off. No, I love it. I don't even know what I was branding on to you. But we were just talking about manners. And yeah, you're right. No, no, but the thing is, it's like, listen, you can really change people's day. You know, I have it to be in an excellent mood right now. So that is that's benefiting all of us, right? And you're in an excellent mood. Yes. Everyone hears in a good mood. There's good vibes. Yeah. And it's just better to go throughout your day and bring those vibes along the way. And then the days where I don't have the good vibes, I really try to remove myself from the situation. So that I am not spreading those vibes, right? Yeah. I absorb people's energy pretty easily. I know a lot of people absorb energy easily. Yes. So I just think it's so easy and it's so fun. It makes your day so much more fun when it's just upbeat and positive. And and it doesn't matter what's going on. Like, you can still walk into a place and have a great time. Even if I were stressed or something was bothering me, just leave it. Leave it. It's not worth it. It's not worth taking with you. Yeah. Ruminating is not like, you know, like, I just have a big thing about expending my energy and where I'm putting it. And it's just so much nicer when you're happy. Like, you could just brighten up so many people's days. You know, you walk into a coffee place and you're extra nice and you give them in a little extra tip or even the valet guy, you know, I speak Spanish. I can speak more Spanish now. I'm going to say, how's the Spanish? So it's getting better. Okay. It's I'm not fluent, but it's getting better. And if you speak slowly, I can understand. And I know more words and I'm understanding more. So I'm excited about that. It's huge. That is really important to me to know another language. And yeah, like, you can just make people's days. It's just so nice to do that. And yeah, I don't know. So it's obvious. It is obvious. Okay. So now we're kind of ending the show on these like manifestation lists. Like I'm asking everybody like, what are you manifesting for yourself for the next year, two years, whatever tomorrow? Like, what is like something that you just, whatever, even if it's just good vibes, like, what are you manifesting for yourself? There was very specific, there were very specific instructions with regard to this eclipse, do not manifest. We, well, I'm not getting that on the algorithm. So we cannot man the manifestation is something yesterday. They said, no, manifestation. So I have to, you have to withdraw that question. I've gone. Okay. So I don't know what this window is of like, but I don't, we can go back to act normal, but I don't want to fuck around with the next 12 year cycle. I need it to be good. So that's why we're all gonna just we're not manifesting. Yeah. So we're not manifesting today. What's my last question then? What is my last? I could give you a last question. Okay. What is it? Why don't I ask you a question? Oh God. All right. Who's? Okay. Oh no. Who's a guest that you've never had on that you would love to have on besides me? Oh, Kristen Wig. Great answer. Kristen Wig. I've been stalking her publicist. She likes, she's like, who are you? And I'm like, we're going to keep asking. Yeah, keep asking. I'm going to keep asking, you know, because eventually she probably won't work with her. Whatever's going to happen. We're just man. I'm not manifesting that, but I'm, are we allowed to hope? Yeah. Oh, right. We're not manifesting. We're hoping. It's just like something you would like to happen. Yeah. You don't need to manifest it. No, we're not. I can't believe you. I thought manifesting was like the key to the future, but we're that's we're taking out the show. It's just for this like 24 hour cycle. You can manifest again, like tomorrow, but just you're not right now. Right? Not right in this moment. Did you write anything down for this eclipse? No. Okay. So we're just cognizant of it and like waiting for the 24 hour. To be quite honest, I'm not a big manifestor. Okay. I just like trust just I just I just have a lot of faith in my own capabilities. Yeah. And the way things have gone so far. They've gone well. And that I'm just going to, you know, like if you have a good pile of things. Okay. And you learn to take better care of that pile of things. Mm-hmm. Then that pile rose, the pile is going to grow. And then you're going to preserve that great pile. So all about piles. Yeah. It's all about piling instead of manifesting manifesting manifestations. We're piling. We're piling. Another thing that I'm also and first of all just the newest spiritual work is of the century piling. But piling. I know I just think of rabbits on top of each other. Kristen Wigg. Kristen Wigg. I get it. Kristen Wigg is so fucking great. Have you interviewed her before? Was she on Chelsea lately? I feel like we should know that. I don't think so. But you know what? I don't want to say I haven't because there's a chance I could have. But I think I would remember there's a lot of people I've interviewed that I don't remember because there were so many interviews. Wait, I have my last question. Are you kidding? They're going to tell me what's this is not even groundbreaking. But like what is a piece of advice that you've been given? People love advice that you were like I remember and I value that advice. Um, I think my favorite piece of advice is that it doesn't matter how many people say no. You just need one person to say yes. That's why we're going to email Kristen Wigg after this again. Yeah. Let's do that again for the hundredth time and just say hey come on. Chelsea handler came on. Thanks. Um, this has been the best hour of my life. I'm not kidding. I had so much fun. I'm so appreciative. I know how busy you are. I know you have the tour right now. Do you want to plug the tour? Yeah. Hi, Mighty. You can go get tickets at Chelsea handler.com. I'm coming to Santa Barbara. San Diego. San Diego sold out New York City. I mean, I'm coming all over the world. The country. Check your local listings or check your don't check your local listings. Check Chelsea handler.com. Go to the show. I want to come to a show. Come to Santa Barbara. I was going to be a really fun show, but so I'll stand backstage because it's sold out. Yeah. No. Well, San Diego sold out. I think Santa Barbara, but we'll get you tickets anyway. Even if it's sold out, we'll get you tickets. Santa Barbara still has tickets available. San Diego. I'm going to Calgary this weekend. No. Um, yeah. And then there's a New York City. Of course, at Pittsburgh, Philly, all the places. Thank you so much. You guys, Chelsea handler. That's it. The Morgan Stewart Show is produced by Sirius XM and me, Morgan Stewart. Our audio engineer is Brendan Burns. Our videographer is Kim Cohen, and our video editor is Shannon Joy Rogers. 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