The podcast features a critical examination of a viral, false conspiracy claim that Ukraine’s attacks on Russian data centers caused a massive drop in the popularity of conservative figures like Tucker Carlson, Mark Levin, and Ben Shapiro. The claim, originating from a green beret named Tardo, is thoroughly debunked as a fabricated piece of propaganda. The data presented—such as a graph claiming a 71% drop in views—is shown to be non-existent, improperly measured, and completely unverified. The episode highlights how such misinformation spreads rapidly through social media, with influencers and politicians sharing it without fact-checking, demonstrating a dangerous trend of emotional manipulation and political bias. The hosts also critique Donald Trump’s recent comments on fuel prices and Ukraine, calling them desperate, performative, and inconsistent with sound policy. They argue that the war in Ukraine resulted from political miscalculations and prolonged conflict, not strategic necessity, and that the U.S. has been deeply involved in a war that could have been avoided. The discussion further contrasts the U.S.-Israel relationship, which is marked by close cooperation and political support, with the strained, reactive U.S.-Ukraine relationship. Ultimately, the episode serves as a warning about how misinformation, political desperation, and conspiracy theories can undermine public discourse and democratic accountability.
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Okay.
So Rob, I, I wanted to talk about this today.
Just, I had to mention this.
I just found this so hilarious.
And then I guess it could kind of get into some other topics that are maybe somewhat more important, but man, was this an interesting little example in how propaganda works.
And also just quite frankly, the desperation that's, that's out there at the moment.
So I saw last night, a couple people sent this to me, this was, well, I don't know, I want to say like 9:10 PM last night, a few people, including some like, you know, famous people who, who, you know, you would all know.
And they kind of sent this and went, yo, dude, what is this?
Cause you know, people see things on the internet, send it to me and ask me what I think about it.
And I looked at it immediately and went, what, wait, what I go.
And I, I have text messages.
I could show you from last night, Rob, and this is literally just me sitting in, in my, uh, room and just getting texts, clicking on it and looking at the thing and going, no, obviously not.
I wake up this morning, Rob, this is being shared by everyone.
Now, what this was, was a.
A post that started from, uh, this fellow green beret who I debated on Pierce Morgan a couple of weeks ago.
Who's trying to, I believe trying to get another debate with me.
We'll see what happens.
Um, he's got an unfortunate last name, Rob.
I believe it's, I believe it's Tardo.
I'll say I was hoping for Hitler face.
Listen, I don't listen.
We don't, we don't live in a, what is it?
I'm sorry.
Tardio Tardio Ellison, Rob, we don't live in the most sophisticated of civilizations.
And I will tell you, if you, if you take a look at the comment section of when I debated him on Pierce Morgan, it's people went pretty hard at that name.
There were a lot of plays on that name.
And quite frankly, Rob, we're above that on this program.
So we're not gonna do any of that today, but how does he actually quite, quite cruel Tardio?
I, I don't know.
I don't know.
I, we never got to that part, but so this dude is just like an app.
Absolute propagandist.
I mean, he's just the worst of the worst, but I mean, he's kind of unknown, so maybe not the worst of the worst, but I will show you what he does here.
So he is claiming that since the Ukrainian attacks on Russian data centers, which have just taken place over the last few days, that there's evidence that Tucker Carlson is down.
His views are down 71%.
And, uh, Megan Kelly's and, uh, Colonel Douglas McGregor and Max Blumenthal, and like several other people, he also names in this study, all of their views have cratered.
Now for people who don't know, um, the Ukraine launched these attacks, uh, on the eighth, uh, I believe they continued through the 11th.
Um, so there's a few days of attacks he's claiming that since those attacks, everything, their, these, their, their views have tanked now, of course.
Um, so there's a few days of attacks he's claiming that since those attacks, everything, their, their, their views have tanked now, of course.
Overnight, I looked, took one look at this and go, this is retarded.
Obviously not true.
Overnight, I look at it, it's blown up.
Rob, it's gone super viral.
All of the worst people have fallen for this.
Every last one of them is sharing this and is celebrating.
I mean, literally, I'll read, I'll rattle off a list of names because every one of them should be shamed to death for what either, either you're too dumb to just be in this business or you're a lying propagandist, in which case you, you know, people should know that.
But so let's rattle off the obvious names.
Laura Loomer.
Mark Levin.
Uh, of course.
Um, uh, what's his name?
The congressman who got kicked out.
He fell for it.
Crenshaw.
Uh, Dan Crenshaw.
Um, the, the, um, of course the, uh, Babylon B guy whose name I can never remember.
Uh, James Lindsay, all of them sharing this.
Well, well, look at that.
So let's, let's pull up just, uh, the tweet first.
Natalie, if you don't mind, let's just see.
So here's the tweet.
Here's my following Ukrainian strikes on Russian data centers.
Tucker Carlson's views dropped 71%.
Douglas McGregor's dropped 62%.
Tucker Carlson network dropped 34%.
And by the way, which would be kind of already, when you look at that, you go, why would Tucker's
drop by 70, but the network only 34.
Hey, let's, let's scroll down a little bit here.
Natalie.
Hey, Rob, Rob, by the way, you see that Tucker Carlson, just like how sloppy this propaganda
is, Rob, do you just, could you just eye that graph?
The one all the way on the left there, Rob, that says 70%.
Just eye the graph, is it a 70% reduction?
Rob, they didn't even make a graph.
This is like, none of this is even real.
That's like, you're looking at maybe a 20 something percent, like in terms of that graph, a 70%
drop should like, they didn't even get this to measure the numbers that they have as inputted there.
Okay.
Uh, here, you can close it now, Rob it's we could tear this apart for a second, but just to be clear there, my first critique is they didn't even make
a graph.
Go ahead.
Oh, no, no, no.
I was going to, uh, just point out where the line should be.
I'll let you continue.
Yeah.
Oh, well, I mean, look, so what they did here is this is how dishonest this is because of course, for like, just think about the pure
propaganda when they say views, when they say Tucker and all these people, their views fell.
I mean, first of all, I would point out that I think it's pretty misleading when you say that if you're not, in fact, talking about viewer
ownership, because that would, you know, you talk about people who have shows and you say views, if you talk about our show, when you talk about
views, people are typically talking about the number of views of the number of people watching our show.
What they're actually measuring here is, um, the, the number of views on tweets.
Okay.
And, and again, Natalie, if you could just pull this up again, just how unbelievable these people are.
Like what?
Fucking retards.
They are go, go.
If you could just, sorry, go back to the other one.
Oh, this is the time.
I'm sorry.
This is the one he just zoom in on the upper right-hand corner.
So we can see the blue and red there.
What they're telling us.
That is sorry.
If it's, it's hard to make this big here.
Okay.
Yay.
Uh, God damn.
Sorry.
I'm just trying to look at that.
If it, can you read it on yours?
Actually, hold on.
Maybe I can make this bigger on my end.
Hold on.
You just keep it right there.
Let me see.
No, but I think it's okay.
So if you.
Look at it, it says September 30th through October 6th.
Is that it?
Through October 6th.
And then on the other one, it says six through 12th.
They're not even an even amount of days, Rob on both sides.
They didn't even accurately account for the number of goddamn days.
It makes absolutely no sense.
So, okay.
We can put this down.
So they literally, what they did was they took a few viral tweets that
got more views and then compared them to tweets that got less views.
You know, what's happened with their viewership of their show.
It's been completely unaffected by this.
So the idea of like what they're trying to convince you here is that what,
like the audience for all these people, wasn't real.
And, but when we destroyed these data centers, it destroyed the
illusion that they're very popular.
It's just completely made up your propaganda.
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completely made up, but I remember when Donald Trump won the election the first time there was
that whole thing about, uh, I forget the name of the company, but he used on Facebook and the way
absolutely no study. If Hillary Clinton had done anything similar in terms of usage of social media,
uh, I can tell you from, uh, I mean, most specifically during the COVID times, but
it does feel like most of my channels are fairly channel, uh, shadow band all the time.
I can't actually, I don't have evidence to suggest that other than that things don't get, uh, always
get, you know, tremendous views and, uh, things can sometimes seem flat, but I mean, I'd love to
see an honest.
Study across the board of, uh, I mean, what are, what are Dan Bungino's numbers actually like?
Yeah. And, uh, I mean, I think you've said that on Twitter, uh, you haven't noticed much growth
over the past year, despite how much big stuff you've done. It's dude, it's insane. It's been
very clearly turned off. My ability to grow has just been turned off kind of across social media.
Um, but on Twitter, particularly in the new Elon Musk, I mean,
I'm not really worried about getting kicked off or anything. And I haven't heard about that.
There are some people who like, like, I know Fuentes is like allowed back on, but can't have
the blue check Mark is kind of just a very weird thing. Like, are you doing the free speech thing
or not? That was the big thing you announced when you took it over again, I'll say this forever for
me over the last, uh, you know, let's say like five to seven years, I've really like built this
show and my career. It was just always,
every day you get a few new followers. Every time you post something that goes viral,
you'd get like a few hundred followers. When you do a big podcast, you get a few thousand
followers, but you do a really big podcast. You do Rogan or something. You might get like 10,
20,000 new followers or something like that. Literally this entire year, I have not gained
any followers. The only year in my entire career ever. It just, and it just got turned off and it
goes up. I gain a few and then it goes back down and it goes up and then goes back down. I've been
around 910,000 for the entire year. Again, like you said, Rob, I can't prove anything. I suppose
I've just plateaued and new people follow me, but for as many follow me an equal amount, always
leave. Like, I guess it's possible. Seems like something with the algorithms going on where they
used to allow me to get new followers and now they don't. So I don't know. The point I'm getting at
is this turned out to be 100% and completely fabricated. It's just not, just not a true story.
Now let's say as a theoretical that Russia actually had an, um, was not working with Tucker,
but, uh, appreciated that people were rejecting, you know, supporting Ukraine and that this war
was a mistake. It's theoretically possible that a foreign actor would try and, uh,
boost that information because it helps them militarily. That's theoretically possible.
Even if you concluded that as a hundred percent, like, let's just say that this one turned out to
be accurate to then not do a comparative study of like, well, what's the Israel influence on social
media and how much of a boost is the right wing getting from, uh, media networks that their pay
does not actually justify what their viewership should be. I mean, the idea to like, just look at
that in a bubble and go, Oh, look, this, only these guys are cheating for a false signal to
make them look like they bigger than they are. How about every single payday on CNN and Fox news?
Well, look, I mean, they're not interested in doing any of that,
but there's something, I just find something interesting about, uh,
well, I guess there's a reason why all of these guys got got on this obvious bullshit. Like you
did, even if you were, I don't know, Rob, I'm just, I'm sorry. This is not, this is I'm being
fair about this. Me and you would never, we would never bring something like this to the show
because you're one, you're like one kick of the tires away from it and the whole thing falling
apart. And I would never, anytime, dude, if I ever got something that confirmed my bias, that was just
like, Ooh, good to be true. You know what I'm saying? Rob, like he just found out a thing like
whatever, just take this, um, whatever there's, there's, uh, Israeli, there was a fire in an
Israeli computer factory and Ben Shapiro's views have plummeted by 70 something percent over the
last three days. Like as soon as you'd saw that and you might get excited, like, Oh dude, what?
Like, this is, you know, this is something that would really confirm
not confirm our bias, but like stroke our, our bias, our egos. This would be a nice thing. You
know what I mean? You'd go, dude, I got it. Look at the, I better be damn sure about these numbers
before I fucking share them. Cause what a claim to make really, really, do I really believe that
Ben Shapiro's audience is just made up? No, I don't. I think he's fallen. I think he's like,
he went from being like, like Ben Shapiro went from being like,
maybe the biggest conservative on the internet to just being one of the guys.
In the mix. But like, I still think he's one of the guys in the mix. I went.
So again, you, you're telling me like people actually jumped on the story that what are
you saying here? You're claiming that you think 70% of Tucker's audience was just made up or
something. And you know, the reason why people would jump on something like that, it kind of,
it reminds me Rob, a little bit of it's, it's like almost like a Russia gate for the Israel lobby.
You know, you remember how comforting Russia gate was to liberals. You know, I'm talking about like
regular liberals who don't think about politics that much, but what they know is that like
a woman's right to abortion is under attack and Donald Trump's a sexist and you know, whatever
for, for someone like that, Russia gate was so comforting because they had to think they were
like, wait a minute, what happened here? What is this country? I live in Hillary Clinton lost.
You're telling me people liked the grabbing by the pussy guy and all this shit, you know,
like it's a very complicated thing. And then they go, Oh no, here's this answer.
Here's the answer for why you lost. You didn't. None of that was real. It was all cheating. It was
Russia, you know, and you're like, okay, now I can put all those complicated questions away.
And so it's just, I don't know. I guess I found something interesting about people just loving
the idea somehow that, that none of it was real Rob. They didn't really lose the argument and
wasn't really kicking their shit in and like all these people were, but unfortunately guys, I'm
sorry.
It's here. Natalie, let's just do a real raw test. I did Tucker Carlson show on October 7th
on the night of October 7th, Rob, these, these attacks happened on the morning of October 8th.
Okay. The show literally has just been there. Can you just Natalie, can you use YouTube?
Dave Smith, Tucker Carlson. I want to just compare this to my other shows on Tucker Carlson.
There's just, there's some raw data here. Let's see if there's any trend comparing something that's
a little more comparable. Like when I do the show compared to the other times that I did the show,
right? It's not just comparing random tweets to random tweets. I don't know. Okay. So if we just
on YouTube, okay. So this is the one, sorry, Mossad were all true myths. That's not this one.
Okay. 1.4 million from six months ago and 1.4 million from five days ago. I'd say this one's
doing substantially better. Got the same number of views in a matter of days in a matter of, by the
way,
those same days, the days under question. These are the five days that that thing's been getting
the views it's been getting. You can look at Spotify the same dude. It's just like they have
absolutely no evidence whatsoever that any of this has even impacted any of these people.
That's just it. It's just a matter of like, they, they found some
accounts that had a viral poster to a couple of days before, and they're just pretending. Anyway,
it's just to see, I mean, look, what differences does it make it at this point? But look at all
those people who just are sharing straight up propaganda. None of them will acknowledge it or
apologize for it. None of them will go, Oh, I got this wrong. And just to speak to just how
inexcusable it is. Uh, the internet makes it pretty easy to fact check these things. You would send
that moment and right away i was like man is this a real thing i press grok and it gives me the
and i just went is this true and it instantly came back no it's a false comparison blah blah blah
and the idea that you're mark levin with the staff and before you jump on a story not only you're not
doing literally 30 seconds of fact checking which the internet will do which i'm not saying you can
just rely on the fact check but sometimes you can read and be like oh yeah that kind of that makes
sense or you might be like no that still sounds off and then you got to do more work that's where
a little bit of instinct and years of experience can help you out but the idea that a story like
that would come across your desk and you don't ask a producer hey can you dig in and fact check this
and you don't even think to ai check it and you just i think mark levin just labeled it
this is true i'm pretty sure that's what he said and just did he really yeah uh if you could uh
look that up natalie i'm pretty sure i saw laura loomer you're right he said you're right those
were his only words wow immediately after uh laura loomer treats wow immediately after ukraine blew
data centers yesterday and today tucker cartarilson's views dropped 71 i told you and
mark levin simply tweeted you're right hey mark no she's fucking not i mean again this is rob this
side dude think about how crazy this is uh you know it's like it's almost like their goal is
just to drive us mad when me and i'm not i don't think you saw this or we talked about this when
me and matt tardo over there were debating on pierce morgan you know the thing he said to me
his big line was i'm a green beret and you're a comedian he said it like three times during the
thing you're like yes that's true you're a green beret and i'm a comedian i don't share garbage
like that and you do because you're full of shit and i'm not i don't know like how he should change
through this yeah
by the way if i share a fucking graph that says 70 reduction i'll make sure the bar isn't like this
much smaller than the one next to him because that's not what a fucking 70 reduction is you
couldn't even eye it over once mr i'm a green beret and you're a comedian you couldn't eye
that over once and just go like hey 70 is like most of something
jesus and then the whole time rob what is their knock their whole knock on
tucker and candace and all of them is that they're conspiracy theorists right rob they're connecting
dots they're asking questions they're they're putting the blame on israel and asking questions
about charlie kirk and all this you are the biggest fucking quack conspiracists out there
look at you guys what was your conspiracy here rob i mean this is not to pretend something that
you know a thing or two about this me and you are both in this field if you're
alleging that like 70 percent of tucker's audience or engagement or any of that is like completely
fake you're alleging a gigantic fraud if you're alleging that about tucker and candace and megan
and mcgregor and blumenthal and like all these people you're talking about rob like a multi
million dollar fraud people are making ad revenue people are getting paid like it's it's like
you have absolutely no evidence you jumped on a gigantic
conspiracy over nothing none of you none of you motherfuckers even have enough methodology to look
at the bars shut your mouth about candace owens and any of the the podcast she's done all of you
guys how many of them how many of the exact same people who would mock uh uh conspiracy theories
just jumped on this is this not a giant conspiracy theory that turned out to be
completely false and never had any basis to it well apparently they're just making
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get back into the show um well good transition actually
yes that's true there's a lot of that there's a lot of that going on uh what do you want to
where do you want to transition to i'll i'll let you pick because i want to get to as much of this
stuff as we can but i guess the republican uh the republican pitch for uh how uh for oil prices
all right let's let's do it because of course uh what this what this is i i guess the part of the
transition there is that the topic that tardo is lying about is um these ukrainian uh attacks on on
diesel refineries uh there's been between the war in iran and the of course ongoing war in europe
uh the eastern europe that is is also becoming more and more of an issue uh there's been a
lot of talk about this um i don't know uh there's the the trump administration was was bragging
about a huge supposed win that they've got by getting the levels of of oil coming out of the
middle east way up from what they had been at the worst of the double blockade um here is uh some
comments talking about this obviously this is an issue for the midterms rob let's go to the speaker
of the house mike johnson there's lots of answers to that the first thing is if the idea we're all
frustrated everybody's frustrated about fuel prices obviously but that's not related to policies
republicans and offices it's hard to make that case though to a voter who knows republicans are
running the house in the senate of the white house yes but if i give them a couple of
pure facts and they understand it easily this is related to the street of promotes the it
is not yet resolved now there's lots of answers all right let's dude you just can't believe it
and he would go listen dude this isn't a matter of policy and if i could just have
a few seconds i could explain it this is about the straight that the iranians closed after
we launched a war against them it's a policy that was an act of god trump launched a war
what are you gonna do what i think i don't know i think you're being a conspiracy theorist right now
and you're connecting dots between uh donald trump's decision to launch a war that didn't need
to be launched uh the obvious intelligence that the straight would be closed donald trump not
having ability to reopen the straights the straights being closed meaning that there
would be a crunch on oil and that the prices would go up
up but if you connect all those dots to this was a policy decision to have this war
and it would influence our gas prices of which donald trump has even said hey i understand gas
prices are higher but it's worth it because otherwise iran would have a nuclear bomb and
they would nuke you but if you connect those dots to that they are up because of a policy decision
i guess that's just conspiracy theory yeah i mean i'm pretty linear that's that's the pitch for
the the midterms oof it really is unbelievable um of course there's also you know as um as as the
you know the first topic uh was referring to the only um real part by the way of that entire uh
claim at the beginning was that ukraine has been attacking russia that much is true um
we should talk a bit about the war in ukraine oh did you free
freeze up there rob or is that me no i'm still here but we uh we we do have a couple other great
clips of uh donald trump pitching uh pitching where oil's actually at in the car oh yes yes
you know what let's do that you're you're absolutely right let's do the the trump clips
uh first let's go to the let's go to one of the first try it doesn't matter what order but let's
go to one of the trump clips here because that's right i forgot i'm sorry rob uh dot the president
of course had some some thoughts that i'm sure will reassure voters
and more oil is coming through the straight today than it was before the war do you believe that one
And refiners and retailers need to start dropping their prices right now.
We want, we're getting them so much oil.
And by the way, today, Russia agreed to send us millions and millions of barrels of oil.
And it's diesel.
That's what we really need.
Thank you.
And we're doing all of this and ensuring that Iran, again, we're doing all of this.
And Iran is in deep trouble.
Yeah.
All right.
So this is the big, this was the big announcement that Donald Trump made a few days ago.
And then, of course, this is also part of what's led to the tensions with the recent tensions with Zelensky.
I don't know, Rob.
I mean, it's hard.
I'm curious to get your thoughts on this.
I guess there's a lot of different ways.
I'm curious to think about this.
But isn't it just so crazy that it's like, even when people try to spin you like the 4D chess shit about any of these moves, it's always so obvious if you just follow it long enough that it's like, no, it's just that incoherent and that makeshift and that just desperate and and reckless.
And yes, after all these years of fighting with Russia, that's our big ace in the hole is we could just do business with Russia.
Alleviate things.
A little bit that way.
Do you remember in the middle of this war when they just started doing business with Iran before Donald Trump stopped it?
When they just did a little bit, they were like, oh, shit, oil's getting all fucked up.
Hey, let's trade with Iran.
By the way, the problem they're having a real legal problem right now, Rob.
I don't know if you followed that because he signed this dumb Lindsey Graham act.
So now it's like a real question to the legality of whether she can even like do business and get a little bit of this diesel.
Of course, there's a whole other angle, which you might want to hit that.
I don't think the deal even actually means anything or moves the needle.
Substantially at all.
But just the fact that you're like, dude, so we got to launch these wars.
I mean, dude, in the case in the case of the war in Ukraine, it's like somewhere north of a million people have died in this thing.
But like, it's OK to just do business with Russia in the middle of it, too, if that'll you know, I mean, right before the midterm, it's OK to do a little bit of business with them.
Jesus, I don't know.
You go ahead.
Well, I think that speaks to.
We should do midterms every week because apparently when votes are on the line, they'll actually go, oh, you know, it's better than having wars is trading and having prices.
Hey, for this one week, we have to actually represent you, the American public, because we understand that these wars don't actually help you in any way.
And they're not in your strategic interest.
And so for this one week, we'll we'll go with the libertarian viewpoint of, hey, why not trade and get along?
Hey, let's let's allow markets to work.
And.
Prices to be reduced.
Ain't that nice?
Yeah.
And OK, so also just to take on some of the claims that Donald Trump made there and we skipped the other video where basically just lied about gas prices.
He said it was like two dollars a gallon or something.
Maybe we'll come back to that.
But it was really odd.
Last week, they were claiming that essentially oil was back to prewar levels, that a lot had been diverted through Saudi Arabia and they were getting boats through.
Now, that doesn't help the diesel situation.
But in terms of like, you know, I guess the stuff you're putting.
Into your cars or whatever, it was back to normal levels.
So the part they weren't telling you was it was costing about fifty four million dollars a boat to get through compared to paying Iran a two million dollar toll.
So that's questionable whether or not that's a win.
I think that trans translates off the top of my head.
It was like sixty four cents a gallon or something like that at the pump.
But I kept reading the storyline.
I was like, is this true?
And in the backdrop of that, you had that the Houthis are ramping up in Saudi Arabia.
And I was just wondering, why is it that Iran isn't?
Striking boats and that this many boats are apparently getting through with military escort on the Oman side.
And, you know, in classic Donald Trump fashion, this is somehow last week's news.
I think there's been more strikes on on the Hormuz this past week than there's been since, like, the beginning of the war.
And the oil volume is back down.
And then in terms of this diesel thing, which obviously undermines.
Listen, I'm not for the Ukraine war.
I think we got them stuck in a mess and we've been getting them killed ever since.
And Zelensky's got to.
Just let Russia keep what it's taken and, you know, and have peace.
But we are clearly undermining three years or four years of U.S.
policy of trying to weaken Russia, of screaming at the other countries that we're still trading with Russia and buying natural gas.
India, most specifically.
Yes.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
Yes, you're exactly right.
Exactly.
And now I think the absolute upside from what I've heard is about nine days worth of diesel.
I mean, Donald Trump is so desperate, I guess, somewhat normal.
Diesel prices coming into the midterms that he's willing to undermine the entire.
I mean, a foolish policy, but undermine what's been the policy for the last four years to try and get nine days worth of diesel in the country.
Yes, it's not the fact that all of that was great.
It's not the fact that it's not the right policy, even if it's only nine days.
Like, whatever.
Make a deal with Russia on diesel.
In fact, yes.
Make lots more deals with.
But, like.
It's the fact that it.
Just reveals.
Oh, you always could have done this.
We never had to do any of this.
I'm sorry if they're such a big, bad wolf.
If they're Adolf Hitler and they're going to conquer all of Europe, then no, you starve them out.
Right.
You don't make it.
You don't do business with them.
In fact, wasn't that a goddamn crime during the Second World War?
Weren't people arrested?
They were doing business with Adolf Hitler.
It's not an option.
Oh, it is an option.
OK.
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I think everything you said about the.
I think essentially that was all it.
I think you were right about all that.
That's what I've gathered, too, from all the reading I've done.
It's like, yeah, he was bragging so much about getting the levels up last week.
It's not what he said.
He said more than before the war.
That wasn't being reported.
It was still less, but it was getting close to pre-war levels.
But again, Rob, you're like, Jesus Christ, if this is the first thing approaching a win that Donald Trump has pulled, it's like, dude, you got to look at the fact that you've probably spent hundreds of billions of dollars to get back to what we had before the war.
And of course, as you know, I'm not a big fan of Donald Trump.
And of course, as you said, you got to factor in those prices and, you know, to that.
And look, man, I mean, yeah, the Houthis are in the war now.
Evidently, they've hit Saudi Arabia pretty solidly.
You have, you know, just the dynamics of this war now being intertwined with the war in Ukraine.
You have a lot of players involved in this.
It's a it's a pretty dangerous game to be playing.
And going into the midterms to do a deal like this.
As you pointed out, it's it's purely, you know, like purely performative and just like a bandaid over a real serious wound.
This is not this is the type of thing that will move markets for a couple of days and make a big show and something to say at a campaign speech.
But it's not really doing anything to solve the problem.
I forget the exact numbers, but it's something it really is a drop in a bucket, like seventy four thousand barrels compared to.
Like three million that are produced in America.
It's like really not moving the needle.
OK, brought more broadly speaking, dude, about the war in Ukraine.
I will say this is probably to some degree a failure of mine.
I just haven't talked about Ukraine enough over the last year.
I don't know.
I mean, I talked about it so much for so many years.
And I guess maybe there's part of it was just like a big part of it is we're not.
From what I understand, we're not really funding it, nor are we pitching it.
So there were years where the claim was we have to spend our money over there.
And there was the storyline of we're winning it.
There was the storyline of Putin's trying to take over all of Europe.
We were defending it going, guys, this is going to be an absolute mess.
You're flirting with a bigger wire or even nuclear war.
But since Trump flirted with the the the mineral deal or the mining deal, he's basically, from what I understand, walked away from Ukraine.
I don't think we're.
I don't think we're spending a lot of money over there.
So it's it seemed it's not exactly right.
I mean, I think.
Well, I think essentially what I agree with you on is, well, basically, like it was kind of like, look, dude, like when, of course, our guy, Scott Horton, wrote the book Provoked.
And we, you know, like we at the very beginning of the thing, I mean, we were talking about this on on the show from years before Putin invaded in 22.
And so, like, when the war first happened, there was a lot to say about, you know.
how, you know, the U.S.
and nato caused the whole thing and provoked the whole thing um and then how they could how it
could have ended so many times and then they prolonged the whole thing they totally created
this and vladimir putin you know also obviously created it um but it was almost like rob like we
won the argument it was a very popular war we were arguing against it then the people agreed with us
then the candidate running on ending it on day one won then they didn't pass any more funding
packages in congress so it was kind of like and and quite frankly if i could admit this which is
kind of fucked up maybe but also i just got a little bored with it it was like it was it was
like a meat grinding stalemate where people are just slowly dying like it's a kind of said
everything i have to say about the thing um and you know then then just a lot was going on between
gaza and then iran and trump's election and there's a lot of other shit going on and uh but
look it should have been mentioned more this year that this is
another one of those things that we're going to have to deal with and i think it's going to be
another major one of trump's failures and the major reason why it's a failure up it's not just
yeah they did essentially transfer essentially to europe like all the funding now europe's doing
the funding packages and not us but if you really look into it dude it's all types of like
logistical support from the u.s intelligence agencies the pentagon like they could not be
conducting this war without us we're still so essentially what happened right was that
donald trump went in there he said i could end this thing in day in one day
um there was reason for him to be so confident you know part of that was donald trump bluster
it never would have happened if i were there i'd ended in one day part of that was that there was
always a deal that had been sitting there the whole time right as if you remember right the
one that boris johnson squashed to begin with that that that vladimir putin had had offered
such a reasonable deal at that point that the ukrainians would love to take now and trump tried
to get again that was like hey we'll give you the donbass we'll promise you we'll give you
that we'll give you the donbass we'll give you all this you end the war by the time donald
trump gets in there he offers that and vladimir putin says no it's like no it's not good enough
man he goes you know what i got the donbass right now you're not giving me anything you're not
offering me anything by offering me the donbass you're gonna tell me they'll never join nato
until the next president you know vladimir putin's already been on the job 20 years he's thinking he
might be on it 20 more he's thinking i gotta deal with a lot more presidents past donald trump
he goes you could say that but i don't believe it
so the deal doesn't work out right away donald trump then at he gets frustrated with zielinski
he has that meeting in the in the oval office where he snaps at him all this right but in even
already in that period of time rob and i don't know exactly what happened just like with all
these wars i don't know exactly how donald trump goes from saying good things on the campaign trail
to being the worst president ever but all the hawks get in his ears they start going see sir
the reason why putin won't accept your offer it's not because everyone before you was an idiot
for getting you into this situation to begin with do the opposite of what they did it's you have to
negotiate from a place of strength we have to build up zielinski so that we have something to threaten
putin with and then something to offer him that we'll take back this is really where you started
but before the uh um oval office incident this is where you started seeing the um the stuff about
the mineral deals the stuff about all of this well maybe we ingrain ourselves even more in ukraine
maybe the u.s essentially is permanently ingrained in ukraine maybe the u.s essentially is permanently
in ukraine or maybe we come to this deal and vladimir putin was just way past even trying to go
so essentially they just kept the war going they've kept it going this whole time and you know
all the same people certainly the ones in europe they want to keep it going for the same reason
just to keep grinding out vladimir putin this is good for them this essentially worked you know
it's it gave them a long years-long war really degraded russia so anyway that's the situation
there then the most recent thing rob right is that now the reason why trump is furious is because
he well here let's let's let him say it in his own words here here's donald trump explaining to you
why he's furious at uh at zielinski now and here's how it relates to the war in iran and the whole
diesel crisis here's here's the president
well i look at it differently zielinski could have settled this
war many times many many times and he chose he chooses not to very difficult
it's a war that should have never been started if i were president the election weren't rigged i
would have been president and that war would have never started but he could have settled it many
times and he chose not to we said you can do whatever you want to russia don't hit the refineries
because that's a world problem that's caused and he wants to make problems for the world he wants
to make problems for
our farmers our ranchers with diesel fuel because russia supplies a large portion of the diesel fuel
throughout the world and we told them do whatever you want but don't hit the diesel fuel because
there's a big problem big shortage and what does he do he goes and hits the diesel fuel he can do
whatever he wants but he can't do that because we have a world problem and the problem is caused
by the lack of refineries for diesel fuel so what does he do he goes and hits refineries
and i said to him do what you want don't hit refineries there's plenty of targets don't hit
refineries and he went out and he hit and he's not going to affect our farmers and he's not going to
affect our ranchers and he's not going to affect the rest of the world so we he'd better damn well
stop
well i agree with you and
well i agree with you and you know what i suggest
you know what i suggest
you know what i suggest i suggest they get a new leader
i suggest they get a new leader
i suggest they get a new leader who can make a deal
who can make a deal
who can make a deal because he could have made many deals and
because he could have made many deals and
because he could have made many deals and for some reason he never does and let
for some reason he never does and let
for some reason he never does and let me go a step further
me go a step further
me go a step further if i were president you wouldn't have
if i were president you wouldn't have
if i were president you wouldn't have ever had that war that war would have
ever had that war that war would have
ever had that war that war would have never started there was no reason that
never started there was no reason that
never started there was no reason that that war with ukraine and russia
that war with ukraine and russia
that war with ukraine and russia started it started due to incompetence
started it started due to incompetence
started it started due to incompetence should have never started you wouldn't
should have never started you wouldn't
should have never started you wouldn't have lost okay you can you can pull it
have lost okay you can you can pull it
have lost okay you can you can pull it up it gets pretty repetitive after there
up it gets pretty repetitive after there
up it gets pretty repetitive after there wanted to get to the point where he
wanted to get to the point where he
wanted to get to the point where he calls for a new president yeah there's
calls for a new president yeah there's
calls for a new president yeah there's something rob
something rob
something rob uh i'm curious your thoughts on this
uh i'm curious your thoughts on this there's something to me just about saying
there's something to me just about saying
there's something to me just about saying if i were president that just
if i were president that just
if i were president that just it's that was it's like he's using the
it's that was it's like he's using the
it's that was it's like he's using the talking point from the campaign
talking point from the campaign
talking point from the campaign but it just doesn't you just can't start
but it just doesn't you just can't start
but it just doesn't you just can't start a sentence with that when you are
a sentence with that when you are
a sentence with that when you are president
president
president it's a weak way to start a sentence if
it's a weak way to start a sentence if
it's a weak way to start a sentence if i were president it never would have
i were president it never would have
i were president it never would have happened well you are president now so
happened well you are president now so
happened well you are president now so solve it doesn't doesn't work as well
solve it doesn't doesn't work as well
solve it doesn't doesn't work as well i'm sorry this is add but can you just
i'm sorry this is add but can you just
i'm sorry this is add but can you just pull up that video for one more second
pull up that video for one more second
pull up that video for one more second natalie
no you don't have to play it dude it
no you don't have to play it dude it
no you don't have to play it dude it looks like
looks like
looks like it looks like he's seeing ben shapiro's
it looks like he's seeing ben shapiro's eyebrow guy and turning into the lorax
dude lorax is a good pull on that thank
dude lorax is a good pull on that thank
dude lorax is a good pull on that thank you natalie for for pulling that back up
you natalie for for pulling that back up
you natalie for for pulling that back up it's good you did that he wouldn't be
it's good you did that he wouldn't be
it's good you did that he wouldn't be right for weeks if he didn't go ahead
right for weeks if he didn't go ahead
right for weeks if he didn't go ahead rob
rob
rob um yeah well uh i mean they haven't had
um yeah well uh i mean they haven't had
um yeah well uh i mean they haven't had elections in ukraine for a long time and
elections in ukraine for a long time and
elections in ukraine for a long time and i certainly think zielinski probably has
i certainly think zielinski probably has
i certainly think zielinski probably has gotten in the way of uh
gotten in the way of uh
gotten in the way of uh of uh getting a deal done and so you know
of uh getting a deal done and so you know
of uh getting a deal done and so you know this is probably good policy uh but
this is probably good policy uh but
this is probably good policy uh but the timing clearly is interesting and
the timing clearly is interesting and
the timing clearly is interesting and just how don how desperate donald trump
just how don how desperate donald trump
just how don how desperate donald trump is um to avoid the repercussions of his
is um to avoid the repercussions of his
is um to avoid the repercussions of his you know it's another war that didn't
you know it's another war that didn't you know it's another war that didn't need to happen
need to happen
need to happen and could any other president wouldn't
and could any other president wouldn't
and could any other president wouldn't have done it's the iran war the one that
have done it's the iran war the one that
have done it's the iran war the one that we're currently in that's the bigger miss
we're currently in that's the bigger miss
we're currently in that's the bigger miss mess for us so yeah if i were president
mess for us so yeah if i were president
mess for us so yeah if i were president that war never would have happened
that war never would have happened
that war never would have happened we can all say that now rob if i were
we can all say that now rob if i were
we can all say that now rob if i were president that word never would have
president that word never would have happened uh kamala harris could be saying
happened uh kamala harris could be saying
happened uh kamala harris could be saying that right now so you're probably right
that right now so you're probably right
that right now so you're probably right that the ukraine war did not need to
that the ukraine war did not need to
that the ukraine war did not need to happen biden was a real idiot where he
happen biden was a real idiot where he
happen biden was a real idiot where he uh kept saying uh we refuse to say that
uh kept saying uh we refuse to say that
uh kept saying uh we refuse to say that nato will that ukraine won't join nato
nato will that ukraine won't join nato
nato will that ukraine won't join nato the war absolutely was avoidable uh but
the war absolutely was avoidable uh but
but there's another word that was avoidable. It's the Iran one. And that's the one that you got us
into and it's the bigger mess right now. So, you know, they, it just kind of falls on deaf ears to
be complaining about the other wars when you got, when you got the worst war on your hands.
It's yeah, man, I look like with all this stuff, what a mess, what a mess of a situation to be in
going into midterms. And, you know, Donald Trump can sit there and kind of cast himself as the
defender of the farmers and the workers, and he will not let Zelensky do this. Meanwhile,
Zelensky is doing it also. I mean, I got to say it's hard. It's really, really hard to
not notice kind of like the contrast between the way Zelensky is treated in the way Netanyahu is
treated, you know, and look, I'm not trying to, to boil this down to a simpler answer than it is.
Obviously, I'm not trying to boil this down to a simpler answer than it is. I'm not trying to
there's lots of layers and lots of reasons to why the relationship between Israel and the U.S. is
just much more intimate and close-knit than the relationship between Ukraine and the U.S.
You know, you just don't have the same type of devotion from every, you know, leader. But,
you know, it's like this type of thing, like, we don't want you to bomb them. Oh, then you go bomb
them. We are fighting for our own freedom. We are funding your effort.
We have your back, and yet you're still pulling us into this thing we don't want. Like, we've had
direct examples of that happen with Netanyahu. And it's just hard not to notice that the way
Donald Trump dressed down Zelensky in the Oval Office, the way he just flippantly calls for a
new leader, that's a pretty big deal.
deal for the united states to call for a new leader in one of its sock puppet states um
you would never you would just never even after i mean dude do you remember rob i know i brought
it up a few times because all the hawks were celebrating when he forbade is that forbidden
for uh he he said that uh netanyahu was forbidden from bombing southern lebanon remember
it's probably never been bombing seven southern lebanon since and what does trump say oh trump
says hey president he he calls on the president of israel to give him a pardon i mean he's he's
not calling for new leadership there you know it's it's just i don't know i'm not saying that
alone proves anything but it does kind of i don't know man if somebody you know if somebody came
into your house and like put a
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i don't know if somebody you know if somebody you know if somebody came into your house and like put a
a drink on a table without a coaster and you flipped out at them and then somebody else at the same party does the exact same thing and you don't say anything to them it does kind of leave you going like hey what's up with that why were you so free to do it here and yet so restrained to do it as you said in this much more relevant relationship you know say what you will about ukraine and the situation with russia there it's not um it was nato and the west
about ukraine and the situation with russia there it's not um it was nato and the west that created the situation it was putin who invaded
that created the situation it was putin who invaded you know ukraine can only be blamed so much for
you know ukraine can only be blamed so much for
you know ukraine can only be blamed so much for dragging us into anything whereas like
dragging us into anything whereas like
dragging us into anything whereas like israel has clearly dragged us into a
israel has clearly dragged us into a
israel has clearly dragged us into a conflict that was theirs and not ours
conflict that was theirs and not ours
conflict that was theirs and not ours and yet we get none of this
and yet we get none of this
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agree
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introduce me to the new press secretary
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lady oh i have not seen i saw like five
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uh you set this up rob
uh you set this up rob well why well let's uh why don't we
well why well let's uh why don't we
well why well let's uh why don't we play a little bit of it and then we can uh
play a little bit of it and then we can uh
play a little bit of it and then we can uh we can give the breakdown
we can give the breakdown
we can give the breakdown all right let's hear from her
all right let's hear from her
all right let's hear from her i am so
i am so
i am so honored
honored
honored to work for president trump and the
to work for president trump and the
to work for president trump and the american people
american people
american people as the new white house press secretary
as the new white house press secretary
as the new white house press secretary i want to thank president trump
i want to thank president trump
i want to thank president trump he has placed all right so here was my
he has placed all right so here was my
he has placed all right so here was my takeaway you know in the movie
takeaway you know in the movie
takeaway you know in the movie tropic thunder there was this thing of
tropic thunder there was this thing of
tropic thunder there was this thing of you can't go full
you can't go full
you can't go full i feel like donald trump went full hot
i feel like donald trump went full hot
i feel like donald trump went full hot chick here like the other hot chicks
chick here like the other hot chicks
chick here like the other hot chicks were like cute but had mouths on them
were like cute but had mouths on them
were like cute but had mouths on them and you're like oh this is like tv
and you're like oh this is like tv
and you're like oh this is like tv attractive but can talk he went beauty
attractive but can talk he went beauty
attractive but can talk he went beauty pageant contestant where they gave the
pageant contestant where they gave the
pageant contestant where they gave the people to him and he was like well
people to him and he was like well
people to him and he was like well she's the hottest give her the job and
she's the hottest give her the job and
she's the hottest give her the job and she's literally just reading off the
she's literally just reading off the
she's literally just reading off the piece of paper
piece of paper
piece of paper i mean i don't know if this sounds mean
i mean i don't know if this sounds mean
i mean i don't know if this sounds mean but you're literally like as soon as you
but you're literally like as soon as you
but you're literally like as soon as you almost just want to start scanning the
almost just want to start scanning the
almost just want to start scanning the room for dudes and you're like so
room for dudes and you're like so
room for dudes and you're like so who's
who's
who's i mean come on like who's
i mean come on like who's
i mean come on like who's this dick just sucks to get it i know
this dick just sucks to get it i know
this dick just sucks to get it i know it's one of you guys right dude just
it's one of you guys right dude just
it's one of you guys right dude just like they i mean at this point it's
like they i mean at this point it's
like they i mean at this point it's like they literally they put up a chick
like they literally they put up a chick
like they literally they put up a chick who you're like embarrassed you dated
who you're like embarrassed you dated
who you're like embarrassed you dated 10 years ago
10 years ago
10 years ago uh like it's like uh so you should be
uh like it's like uh so you should be
uh like it's like uh so you should be like oh god no not this is
like oh god no not this is
like oh god no not this is rub this is what adults who have
rub this is what adults who have
rub this is what adults who have concerns over serious issue of policy
concerns over serious issue of policy
concerns over serious issue of policy this is who we're supposed to come to to
this is who we're supposed to come to to
this is who we're supposed to come to to be reassured
be reassured
be reassured that we totes apps got it covered
i'm sorry
i'm sorry
what are we doing what is this world
what are we doing what is this world
what are we doing what is this world doing to be bad
doing to be bad
doing to be bad all right can we play a little bit more
all right can we play a little bit more
all right can we play a little bit more of her i actually i want to i want to
of her i actually i want to i want to
of her i actually i want to i want to see a little bit of what she's got
see a little bit of what she's got
see a little bit of what she's got i have wanted to work for him for a very
i have wanted to work for him for a very
i have wanted to work for him for a very long time
long time
long time i'm looking forward to working with each
i'm looking forward to working with each
i'm looking forward to working with each of you as well
especially as we are in the middle of the midterm blitz with energy and excitement oh my god
oh my god she's reading like she's reading to a kindergarten class rob i told you it's beauty
pageant she smiles after every line like like she struggles to read like she struggles she's reading
she's reading like i'm so excited to be here for the job and i'm really looking forward to working
with all of you guys but she has to read that she can't like memorize that part of it like even
like cheat a little bit while you're coming up and read those first few sentences and kind of
have that going so you can do it like smooth so she has to go i am very excited about the job
and looking forward to working with all of you like oh my god this is how bad she is
this woman's gonna do this might be worse than than biden's black lady than his
black lady
black lesbo than his history setting should this this woman's set bimbo history this is a whole
different history setting rob this might be worse i i'm listen i'm saying i'm i haven't seen anything
else uh if she's this bad at reading oh man she might be worse than kierjean share uh when it
comes to like answering tough questions this might get real fun well she already had a bad blunder
where she uh referred referred to donald trump
as her husband uh and then and then uh yeah it's like it's the last question of the thing and it
was it was like an honest stumble it might also be uh first day nerves but she is reading off the
piece of paper i i said it's it's like beauty pageant or bat mitzvah energy of reading a speech
but she's also doing the hot chick thing where after every line she gets right she looks up and
smiles because she's impressed with herself i gotta i gotta study her a little bit more
yeah yeah okay let's let's play this a little bit more i gotta study this chick
yeah yeah okay let's play this a little bit more i gotta study her a little bit more
yeah yeah okay let's play this a little bit more
just look no further than last night in youngstown ohio
where president trump delivered another blockbuster rally out on the trail
the arena was overflowing with enthusiasm came out to support president trump as well as special
guest jake paul and football legend john gruden the president also announced the department of war
the president also announced the department of war has officially selected cleveland ohio
has officially selected cleveland ohio as the new home for the u.s it's like trump said don't worry
as the new home for the u.s it's like trump said don't worry you're hot just smile at them doesn't
you're hot just smile at them doesn't matter what you say just get up there make sure you do your
matter what you say just get up there make sure you do your makeup and smile she really does it's
makeup and smile she really does it's just what you said she smiles it's after she completes the
just what you said she smiles it's after she completes the sentence she goes now that totally
sentence she goes now that totally read that one um oh geez man wow wow oh what a what a country we
read that one um oh geez man wow wow oh what a what a country we are it is a country we are it is a
country we are it is a country we are it is a it's scary that we still have two more years of
it's scary that we still have two more years of donald trump to go down in flames i just don't
don't have two more years of donald trump to go down in flames i just don't know how ridiculous
donald trump to go down in flames i just don't know how ridiculous this thing is gonna get here let's
know how ridiculous this thing is gonna get here let's skip a skip to the the time stamp that rob
this thing is gonna get here let's skip a skip to the the time stamp that rob had where it's whatever
skip a skip to the the time stamp that rob had where it's whatever the getting to the questions go
had where it's whatever the getting to the questions go ahead um natalie you might have to search the
the getting to the questions go ahead um natalie you might have to search the transcript for that but um
ahead um natalie you might have to search the transcript for that but um uh there's trump it'll
search the transcript for that but uh uh no i didn't think to time stamp it it was just like
but uh no i didn't think to time stamp it it was just like kind of uh um it's fine it wasn't that
no i didn't think to time stamp it it was just like kind of uh um it's fine it wasn't that bad
kind of uh um it's fine it wasn't that bad of a blunder but for first day on the job it's not
it wasn't that bad of a blunder but for first day on the job it's not great uh she's very nervous
of a blunder but for first day on the job it's not great uh she's very nervous clearly i think i i saw a
great uh she's very nervous clearly i think i i saw a clip recently i i feel like we might get a
clearly i i feel like we might get a donald trump crash out for the next few
donald trump crash out for the next few years i think you i i think it might get
years i think you i i think it might get
years i think you i i think it might get uh fun in that way if he actually loses
uh fun in that way if he actually loses
uh fun in that way if he actually loses his cool and it's just real snappy with
his cool and it's just real snappy with
his cool and it's just real snappy with people
people
people yeah i think um you know the
yeah i think um you know the
yeah i think um you know the he's not gonna like this you know he's
he's not gonna like this you know he's
he's not gonna like this you know he's not gonna like just the the kind of
not gonna like just the the kind of
not gonna like just the the kind of being the butt of the joke and the way
being the butt of the joke and the way
being the butt of the joke and the way things are going but man yeah it's just
things are going but man yeah it's just
things are going but man yeah it's just hard hard to believe that he actually
hard hard to believe that he actually
hard hard to believe that he actually put this woman in charge here just move
put this woman in charge here just move
put this woman in charge here just move move to her taking questions let me get
move to her taking questions let me get
move to her taking questions let me get let me get a little taste of how she
let me get let me get a little taste of how she
let me get let me get a little taste of how she interacts with people when she's
interacts with people when she's
interacts with people when she's not reading off her script
not reading off her script
not reading off her script yeah anywhere right there let's see
yeah anywhere right there let's see
yeah anywhere right there let's see what we got things
what we got things
what we got things less tough for republicans in the midterms
less tough for republicans in the midterms
less tough for republicans in the midterms well
peter i get to do what i was doing on the outside already which was hoping to amplify multiply and
expand upon president trump's incredible agenda for the american people and what i hope to do in
this position is to take that into an official capacity and only build on only amplify and only
multiply to the extent possible all of the wins he's making for americans for for americans to
understand how much has changed in this brief period all right all right we can wrap up here
uh well it's going to be fun watching her defend this train wreck rob this is the woman they got
up there i think we're going to get some fun moments out of her all right we do got to wrap
up there uh porch tour.com to come see rob on the road over the next couple weeks comicdavesmith.com
to come see us together for the rest of the year and uh yeah catch you guys tomorrow peace
you
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
A false claim circulated online alleging that Ukrainian attacks on Russian data centers caused a 71% drop in Tucker Carlson's views, which was entirely fabricated and lacked any credible evidence.
The data used in the claim was manipulated, with no real graph or methodology to support the claimed 70% decline, and the timeframes were inconsistently measured.
Multiple prominent figures, including Mark Levin, Laura Loomer, and Dan Crenshaw, shared the false narrative without fact-checking, demonstrating widespread propaganda and lack of critical thinking.
The story reflects a broader pattern of conspiracy-driven misinformation, where people embrace false claims to feel justified in their political biases or to discredit opponents.
The claim was debunked by comparing actual viewer data from Tucker Carlson’s YouTube show, which showed no decline in views during the relevant period.
The episode highlights how political figures exploit crises to manipulate public perception, often using emotional appeals and false narratives to gain traction.
Donald Trump’s recent remarks about diesel prices and Ukraine are seen as desperate, performative, and inconsistent with long-term strategic policy, undermining credibility.
The Ukraine war is criticized as a prolonged, avoidable conflict that has drawn the U.S. into a costly and ineffective situation, contrasting with the more intimate U.S.-Israel relationship.
Summary:
The podcast features a critical examination of a viral, false conspiracy claim that Ukraine’s attacks on Russian data centers caused a massive drop in the popularity of conservative figures like Tucker Carlson, Mark Levin, and Ben Shapiro. The claim, originating from a green beret named Tardo, is thoroughly debunked as a fabricated piece of propaganda. The data presented—such as a graph claiming a 71% drop in views—is shown to be non-existent, improperly measured, and completely unverified.
The episode highlights how such misinformation spreads rapidly through social media, with influencers and politicians sharing it without fact-checking, demonstrating a dangerous trend of emotional manipulation and political bias. The hosts also critique Donald Trump’s recent comments on fuel prices and Ukraine, calling them desperate, performative, and inconsistent with sound policy. S.
has been deeply involved in a war that could have been avoided. -Ukraine relationship. Ultimately, the episode serves as a warning about how misinformation, political desperation, and conspiracy theories can undermine public discourse and democratic accountability.
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No, the claim is completely false and fabricated. There is no credible evidence that Tucker Carlson or other figures' views have decreased due to such attacks. The data and graphs presented are misleading and lack proper methodology or validation.
The podcast highlights how false claims, such as those about political figures' audience drops, spread rapidly online despite lacking evidence. It emphasizes the need for fact-checking, critical thinking, and skepticism when encountering such propaganda.
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The claim is politically motivated and misleading. The podcast points out that the deal did not significantly impact diesel supply and that oil prices remained high due to global supply issues, not a temporary trade agreement.
The podcast argues that the war in Ukraine was not a necessary conflict and that U.S. involvement was prolonged without effective outcomes. It highlights how political leaders have used such situations to justify policies, often without addressing the root causes.
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