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Watching the Destruction in Real Time; Back from New Jersey - Ep 153

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Watching the Destruction in Real Time; Back from New Jersey - Ep 153

The host shares a personal anecdote about being late due to a minor mishap, then dives into a newly released podcast with Julian Dory, a respected and deeply prepared host. The conversation is described as a rare, professional, and intellectually rigorous exchange on the Charlie Kirk investigation—covering not just the case, but broader political and investigative principles. The host praises Julian’s approach, emphasizing curiosity, preparation, and respectful dialogue, in contrast to the toxic, name-calling debates that dominate social media spaces. A key lesson is that the investigation must be conducted at a high standard of professionalism, avoiding emotional reactions or baseless accusations. The host also highlights critical negligence by law enforcement in the immediate aftermath: no perimeter was established, cameras were taken down, and evidence was destroyed within minutes. This undermines the entire investigation’s integrity. Additionally, the host comments on a leaked photo of prominent political figures, expressing cautious optimism about a potential third-party movement, while noting its logistical and financial challenges. He concludes that real progress requires disciplined, fact-driven discourse, and calls for a shift away from online chaos toward constructive, adult-level conversations.

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Guys, it was a close one. I've spilled something on my hoodie. I had to run and grab another hoodie. Sorry. I was late. It won't happen again. Okay. It might happen again, but it won't happen again tonight. I don't think I almost spilled something there trying to get a drink right before we started. Thank you for your patience. I appreciate you. You're understanding that we were not able to put a show together for Friday. You now may have heard why. I worked out with Julian Dory to head up there, but like most great podcast. He does not want to announce ahead of time who's going to be there and win and I greatly appreciate that. That was a double secret in and out type of deal. We filmed on Back to Back days. He was a remarkable host, a remarkable host. I mean that in every sense of the word host. He's a generational talent, I believe, as a podcaster. I've had an opportunity to watch quite a few of his here in the last couple of weeks. And he is remarkable. I mean, truly, truly remarkable. He reminds me of Joe Rogan before Joe Rogan got the big contract. Not fit Joe Rogan. I still want to be on your show. So I'll be happy to do it. But no, I mean, he reminds me of of Joe Rogan in his in his curiosity, his preparation is relentless, holy macro. You show up and he doesn't just wing it. He has questions. But the way he weaves the questions in is is the really, really amazing part. So that podcast with Julian Dory will be coming out. I believe in the next day or two. It's on his Patreon account now. So some people have already texted me about it. They've watched it. They've given me their feedback. All good, I hope. All good. I hope. So I've gotten some feedback from people who've already watched it. I think it'll go out to the general masses. It really be nice for now Tuesday, because I'm planning to take Tuesday completely off this week. And it would be it would give everybody something to watch. You know, it's it's long. It was three and a half hours of recording. We covered the case pretty much in depth. And we talked about a lot of other stuff. It wasn't just Charlie Kirk. We talked about a lot of other things as well. And it was it was refreshing. It was refreshing because we get so bogged down on this. I it was like when I did the Clint Russell Liberty lockdown podcast and I did it with Buckley Carlson and we talked about political philosophy and everything else. I'm going to hint a little bit about that today because you know, there was a meeting over the I don't know weekend last week sometime where a bunch of a bunch of people a bunch of political people got together and met with Tucker Carlson and the pictures leaked out and everybody freaked out because I think they understand what it means is there's some things that are being taken very seriously and might change here in the near future. So I do want to hit that for just at some point tonight. I do want to hit that at some point. But I want to spend a few minutes talking about the Julian Dory podcast because it was really two parts. Only part one has been released. We filmed on successive days. So we did three and a half hours on Friday and we did four to half or yeah Friday. We did three and a half hours on Friday and four and a half hours on Saturday. That's going to be a long show. You know, by the time you put ad breaks in there, it could it could end up being five hours or more. It's. Two very different shows the first show was just Julian and me and in really covering sort of how I got into podcasting how I how I what I've done in my life and then and then how it applies to the Charlie Kirk. Investigation and the 150 plus shows we've done on that investigation now. And it was good. It was like I said, he's very thorough, very prepared. That can show is fundamentally different. We had another guest in the studio. I don't know if he's announced that other guest and I don't want to blow the lid on that blow the whistle on that. I've heard a lot of people guest Candace. It's not Candace. But there was another guest in there. And it was a remarkable conversation. And here's what I want to tell you the lesson is. Because there are a lot of people that are taking the wrong approach in this, including Andrew Colvette, Blake Neff, Erica Kirk, Tyler Boyer, basically everyone affiliated with TPSA. All their hangers on Graham Allen. Officer Tater Todd. I don't know, Benny Johnson, Jack Bussobick, they're taking the wrong approach. I would not have agreed to go on with them. When, when Julian asked me if I would go on with this particular guest, I said, yes, I would absolutely. Because I'd watched a couple of shows he had done on the Charlie Kirk investigation. And while we reached wildly different conclusions about the investigation and everything else, I felt like he was coming in good faith. I felt like he was a smart guy who understood the case, who wanted to get the right answer. And it would help me to be able to ask him my questions. It would, it would, it would help sharpen my thoughts to have him ask me his questions. And have Julian fire questions at both of us and see where we contrasted and see where we agreed. Because ultimately, what I want to do is be right. And by that, I mean, I want, I want to cover the case in a way that, that allows the truth to come out. And I'm not sure everybody does. I'm not sure everybody's in that place. I listened to a couple of X spaces today. What a disaster. I got to stop doing that to myself. Whoever's running these X spaces, you're doing it all wrong. You're doing it all wrong. When you give eight people, ten people, a microphone, and then you're like, hey, everybody be quiet. They're not going to be quiet. They have a microphone. This is their moment to shine. Right? These are the people who used to raise their hand in class all the time. Sit down, Timmy, where we're not here from somebody else. Stop raising your hand. And then they talk over each other and then they call names and then they get ugly with each other. That is no way to come to an agreement on what happened. That's no way to try to figure out how to advance the case. That's no way to to me sharpen my mind you sharpen your mind. You can't get there that way. It's an absolute disaster and it's spilling over into social media. It's spilling over and everything else. I like to lay blame. I lay blame with the Tyler Robinson Fed Slopside. They're the ones that can't handle the fact that an investigation is taking place and the investigation is uncovering facts that are very uncomfortable for them. The investigation is uncovering things like higher quality video footage than we've been offered by the state or the defense. That's a real problem for them because the higher quality footage shows no 30 out six. It doesn't show anything that they said. If any more high quality footage drops, they could be done. Like they could be done. I have no idea what all Candace has upper sleeve. I have no idea if the sources that sourced video to Candace have sourced it to other people. I have no idea if other people have seen video footage. I don't know. I assumed we wouldn't see any better footage until the trial. But the reality is last week we got a really high quality. I think pretty high quality compared to what we've had so far. At least you could tell it wasn't big foot. You could tell it was an actual human being up there. That's the first we've seen of that. You could start to see things like was he wearing a jacket? Did he have something in his hand? Was he hearing a bag? How did he position himself? Did he unfold something or did he roll something out in front of them? Like all of these things were unavailable in the video footage we've been offered today. I think it's a very uncomfortable position for people pushing the Tyler Robinson or bus narrative because they have to prove that's Tyler Robinson on that roof. And when you come at it in an honest, engaging way, even if you believe Tyler Robinson did it and you come at it, you come to the investigation or you come to the conversation and you say, what are you saying again? Talk me through this exploding microphone. Talk me through this electrocution. Talk me through this bullet from another location. Talk me through this high technology thing. What is it exactly that you're trying to say? Is that supportable by the medical records? Let's look at what we know so far of what's come out about Charlie Kirk's injuries. When you approach it that way, you get engagement. You get a little back and forth and you start to come to a better understanding of what the other person says and what they believe and what we believe they have a better understanding. Now, they still may walk away at the end of it and not believe it, but if your goal is just to get to the truth, why do you care what I believe? Why do you care if I say that I don't think Tyler Robinson did it? Why does that offend you? Why do you have to call names about that? The person that I sat down with Saturday yesterday, man, it seems like a month ago. That was just yesterday. The person I sat down with yesterday and talked for four and a half hours with Julian Dory approaches it exactly that way. He approaches it in a very curious way. Tell me tell me again what you believe. Tell me again why you think that and it fostered a discussion that I think will go down. After it comes out and I think it'll probably come out Thursday or Friday this week. The podcast with just Julian and me, I think will be out tomorrow or Tuesday for the general public. It's out now for his Patreon members. If you want to see it early, go join his Patreon. I highly recommend it. It's great. His Patreon's great. Not your home will host is great. I would never say something like that. But it's he does a great job. He really does a great job and you get early access and some behind the scenes stuff. But but when you I think the podcast I did yesterday, not because I was on it, but because the material that was covered in the in the tremendous insight into the case from me and from this person, a true expert in his field. A frankly globally recognized expert in his field, allowed a level of discussion that has not happened in this case in my opinion. hasn't happened in an expase, it hasn't happened on YouTube, it hasn't happened on anybody's private, you know, members, it just hasn't happened. That's not credit to me. It's not necessarily credit to him. I think it's credit to Julian Dory who's who's mind and vision that such a conversation could even take place. And again, my initial instinct was, I don't know that I want to do this. So I went and watched a bunch of the videos that guy had put together and I was like, yeah, I absolutely want to do this. And then we actually talked for a little while before we talked for an hour or so before agreeing to sit down and do a podcast together. I just want to make sure there's enough discussion to be had. And there was, there was. I think that conversation, when it comes out towards the end of the week, I think that conversation will go down as the most informative four and a half hours of the Charlie Kirk investigation. That's not to say that the hours that Candace puts in and releasing video is not informative. I think that in and of itself on the issue of video is more informative because we didn't talk much about video that's been put out. We talked a little bit about it, but not not four and a half hours worth. But the conversation we had was what probably happened from the moment Charlie Kirk arrived until the moment he was put in the ground. What probably happened? And what should have happened? And I'm going to cover a little of that tonight. What should have happened? And those immediate moments afterwards, we're going to go back to the scene tonight and we're going to take a little look at it. Because with the information I've gleaned from yesterday, I kind of want to prime the pump when that conversation comes out towards the end of the week. What should have happened in those immediate seconds, minutes, hours after Charlie Kirk went down? So we'll get to that. We'll get to that. But I do want to give a tremendous shout out to Julian Dory. I can't thank him enough for the opportunity. I can't thank him enough for just being a guy of tremendous integrity. You've got to travel to the New York metropolitan area. I don't like it up there, typically. No offense to our New York friends. You probably don't like it at some of the places I live. I don't like it. It's just loud and it's just not not my cup of tea, not my cup of tea. But he made it so easy. He made it so easy and so welcoming and kind. So all the praise to him, all the praise to the fellow guests that I did it with. And again, I don't know if that's public or not. So I don't want to say his name. But when it comes out, I think it's going to be a banger. I think it's going to be an absolute banger, four and a half hours of banger. I mean, just it really never slowed down. Some of the lessons I learned from it, though, the primary one being we have got to elevate this discussion. We have got this discussion can be had at a higher level than it's currently being had in a lot of venues. We need to, we on our side need to stop descending into the bowels. We need to stop lowering ourselves to respond to these people. We need to stop engaging with them altogether if they can't behave like adults. There's no reason we're jumping on X spaces and calling each other names. There's no reason we're jumping on X spaces and fighting over this nonsense. It's not worth fighting over. You know, you don't agree with me fine. Give me a reason. If you if you don't have a reason why, then let's just not talk. But you're an idiot, boogerhead eater. That's not going to cut it. That's not that's not from this point forward. That doesn't cut it. That doesn't cut it. We handle this like professionals. We handle this like adults, or we don't handle it. We don't handle it. Stop tuning into these spaces. Stop giving in to this childish discussion. It's not advancing the ball. And you're attendance in these spaces, even though some more I've listened today for an hour while somebody melted down. It was embarrassing. It was embarrassing. This person claims to be somebody. Well, claims to be a producer for somebody, but it was just embarrassing watching the meltdown, watching the name calling and the infantile responses. And I thought, why am I here? Why am I here? Because that's just one more view that this space is getting. And that's one more piece of encouragement for people to engage in this kind of content. Let's raise our approach. Let's raise our standards. Let's be better. Let's be better. If someone's not engaging in good faith, they'll engage them. Somebody's name calling and oh, he's a fraud. He's a hookster. He's a comment. Okay, then just ignore. Block. Block. So it doesn't even show up in your feed. It's just a lot easier that way. A lot easier. That's that's kind of lesson number one. We are capable of carrying out this investigation, carrying out these conversations at a level far higher than these people are capable of handling. So let's just have the conversations ourselves. Lesson number two, there are good faith people on the other side. We like to believe that everyone who believes Tyler Robinson shot and killed Charlie Kirk is some sort of fed slop loser. A lot of them are, but not all of them. There are people on the other side who are operating in good faith who have just come to that conclusion. I don't necessarily believe those people work for TPSA. I don't believe they are in contracted to TPSA. I don't believe their operational necessarily on Twitter. They're not these, they're not these hangers on them. It's not those people. It's not the people out there slinging mud and calling names, but there are people who have looked at this who believe that Tyler Robinson's guilty. I'm more than willing to engage those people. I'm more than willing to have a conversation with those people. And if we can keep it at a high level and keep it above an IQ of like 110, we can get there. We can have that conversation and everybody will benefit from a conversation like that. But if it devolves into name calling and cheap shots and verbal tricks and trying to drag somebody down in the mud and muddy the issue and confuse the issue, it's not helpful. It's not helpful and not worthy of engagement, but that's lesson two. I think from the podcast I did, I sat down with somebody who I think I never really asked him what he thinks happened. I think he believed Tyler Robinson did it. I think he does. I know he did probably at one time or at least thinks he was shot by a 30 out of six or at least was open to that idea at one time or very open, like mostly convinced. And so that's that's kind of lesson two. That there are good faith actors on the other side. That's that's lesson two. Lesson three. When you go into someone else's podcast live, you have no control over the environment. That's that was lesson three, believe it. There's no cough button. There's no mute button. So you just hack all over the place if you're a habitual cougher like I am. There's no headphones. See these? I don't know how people broadcast without these. I have to have the feedback as I work around the mic. That way no one's off screen telling me move back to the mic. Move back to the mic because I'm getting constant feedback and notice day on the mic. I was shocked when he released his promotional image of the show and it's like this. I mean, it was like right in my face. It was a little much if we're being honest. See if I can find it. It was a little much. I thought, what is he trying to accomplish here? What does he think he's doing? You have no control over the environment when it's when it's on someone else's podcast. They're going to do their camera angles. If they want to pull tight on the camera, they're going to check this out. Look how close this is. This is unacceptably close. Who needs that close a baron in their life? That's the bottom of the frame. That's the top. No, no, no, back up. Back up. Dial it back a little bit. Let's not get so carried away. Not get so carried away. So that's lesson three. You have no control over the environment. You don't have control over the temperature. You don't have control over the mute button. You don't have control over the ears. You don't have control over how tight the camera angle is. And lesson four, my final lesson. When you go to somebody else's studio, you have no idea when the cameras are rolling because after the show, we sat around and talked for a little bit. Ladies and gentlemen, I had no idea this was planned. I just loved him. I can't go to see that. I had no idea that was taking place. Now, I didn't, I don't still don't know who was filming that because everyone, well, I guess Julian wasn't in there. Maybe he was the one filming. But I saw that come out on extra day. He put that up and I was like, what? When? What else did I say? In fact, what I thought was it off the record conversation. Oh, I guess there's the answer. That's who I sat down with. It was Joseph Scott Morgan. He was great. He was phenomenal. I shouldn't know. I should have known. Yeah, that's who I sat down with. And I guess that that's the giveaway. I guess it was public. And then Death comes walking through with his male poetry hat. I don't even know what that means. But so now that I know that Joseph Scott, well, I should have even thought about it. They've already had basically announced who it was. One of the things that people noticed was I actually am, I have body from here down. I'm not sitting, I'm not sitting on a stump. You know, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not one of those people that have no legs. I was there. I have jeans. I was wearing my dress vans only the best for Julian Dory, ladies and gentlemen, only the best, only the best. I had my dress vans on. It was a great experience. But yeah, so now that you guys know, I will say this about Joseph Scott Morgan. I watched his release. interview he did with Julian Dory a couple of weeks ago. And a lot of people tagged me in things and sent things to me and like, look, you, you right now. Have got to get in touch with this professor because he's off to lunch. He's crazy. He's in there and he doesn't know the cake. And I was like, look, I, you know, so I'll watch it. And I did it took me two or three sessions of watching because I don't often have three hours to just sit and watch something uninterrupted. But it took me a couple of three sessions to get through it two or three days of watching it, but I finally watched the whole thing. And so then Julian called is like, hey, do you want to sit down and talk to this guy? If you read the, if you read the comments under his episode, every comments like get bearing, get bearing, get bearing, get bearing. You know, I'd like to do a podcast with you. Let's just do it. If you say no to Joseph Scott Morgan, then just you and I'll talk. We won't do that one. But if you want to do it, stay two days and we'll record the second day with him. And I said, well, let me talk to him like set up a call. Let's just talk for an hour. See how it goes. What I found in that hour was this was a man who's very, very brilliant, very smart, very experienced in his job. Very, very experienced in his job. He's got the credentials to back up what he says. He knows, he knows more about forensic investigation. He's trained police officers on how to investigate crime scenes, how to preserve evidence. He's, he's trained the people who cut up the bodies and all that. He's done that autopsies autopsies. He's done all that. So he's got decades of experience in this. It would be foolish of me to assume that he's, he's drawing some random conclusion based on, you know, the Twitter whims. And after talking to him for an hour, I realized, no, that's not at all what's happening. We do disagree on whether it was a 30 out of six. We do disagree on on maybe the nature of the injuries, what's possible and not possible. But there's a lot we also disagree on. There's, I mean, there's do agree on. We agree on a lot about what took place around the scene immediately afterwards. We agree a lot on what took place in the environment and, and whether or not things. You know, timelines and things. And so we'll get to that where I'm going to let that come out. I'm not going to do the whole show before you hear it from him. I want you to watch that show. It's really, really good. He's the perfect person to have done it. The perfect person. He's not a name caller. He's not a bomb thrower. He's not an agitator. He's a serious man who just happens to have reached a different conclusion than I have on a lot of things. But he's he's he's also someone that that is is capable of adjusting to new information. So if he sees information he didn't previously know or didn't wasn't aware of, he's capable of digesting it in real time. And if it changes his conclusion a little bit or causes him to rethink something, he'll be honest about it. He'll be honest about it. And it was a really great conversation. So I look forward to that coming out as well. And that's I'll kind of leave the the Julian Dory adoration there. Great guy. Superb host. And I mean host like bringing you into town, taking care of you and host also like sitting behind a microphone, being prepared when you show up, knowing what he wants to ask, knowing how he wants the interview to go and making sure it gets that way. I probably wouldn't put my cameras that tightly on a guest. But that's just because I'm old and it it exposes every flaw on this body. But he can do whatever he wants. He can do whatever. One more quick thing before we get into night's content. One more quick thing before we get into tonight's content. This is an image that was released by Marjorie Taylor Green. It's got Marjorie Taylor Green and her husband. It's got Tucker Carlson. It's got Joe Kent and his wife Thomas Matthew and Thomas Matthew and his wife. And they're all sitting around the table just enjoying, I don't know, breakfast, lunch, dinner, whatever this is. But it got a lot of people's wheels going on a couple of different ways. Number one, the people who like this group of people, your humble host included got very excited when he saw. I think any of those four people and frankly, probably their spouses could could run circles in terms of governance around what we've elected over the last, I don't know, 50 years or so, 60 years in this country. Any, any of the four of those acting as president, making executive decisions, any of the four of those acting as cabinet secretaries, making executive decisions would be so much better than anything we've had in the last 60 years. I mean, almost I can't name a single person sitting there where I look at somebody that's been in an executive level position, a cabinet level position, a president or vice president that I would, that I would prefer over those four people. These four people love the United States of America. They want to see it at its best. They want to see the United States of America at its best. Now, it obviously prompted a lot of questions. Is this the beginning of a third party? I have a lot of concerns about that. We traditionally have been a two party country. Since 1860, we've been essentially a two party country. We've had the Republicans in the Democrats and we've had every now and then we'll have some third party and I did an opening on this, I'm not going to redo the whole opening. But every now and then we'll have some third party pop up and grab a few states here and there. I know Governor Wallace from the state of Alabama. I think he won five or six states. Ross Perot went ran. He'd never won any states, but he won. I think 15 or 18% of the vote one year. You've had other people pop up. The senator from South Carolina's name's escaping me right now. I ran under the Dixie crats and I think the 40s or 50s and he won five or six states maybe. So it happens from time to time. The third party will pop up and it'll run into win some states, but typically all a third party does is place boiler to the big two parties. So if you run from the right and you don't win, then you basically have handed the election left. There's a lot of concerns about that. The Republicans have been pretty naughty over the last several election cycles, particularly this one. We were sold to bill of goods. We didn't get it. We were told that a second Trump presidency would go a certain way and we basically have gotten the opposite of on most issues, almost issues, certainly foreign policy issues. So I have concerns that that could happen, but those concerns are largely asswashed by the fact that we have not gotten what we voted for recently. Even in Trump won, even the first Trump administration, we didn't get what we voted. We voted for close borders, mass deportations, America first, we got almost none of that. Trump too, we voted for no more foreign wars. We have not gotten any part of that either. And so if we're going to continue just getting hoodwinked, if we're going to continue getting rug pulled by Republicans when we elect them, what's the difference? We really reduced a voting for the lesser of two evils. Is that where we're going to be from the rest of our lives? Because the lesser of two evils is just how fast do you want to drive the car off the cliff? Do you want to go at light speed? Do you want to do 140 in the BMW and go off the cliff? Or would you rather go like 25 miles an hour off the cliff? You know, that's the lesser of two evils approach. Which way do you want to go off the cliff? If that's what you're comfortable with, then you're probably going to be comfortable with continuing to vote the way we voted since the 1960s, since we've rejected gold water. Republicans have largely do do the bed when it comes to finally getting a hold of power. Right now we have both houses of Congress, the presidency and six of the nine Supreme court seats and everything keeps getting worse. Inflations at an all time high, not an all time high, but a multi decade high. We've printed money the last few years, like, like you can't possibly imagine we're now engaged in a pretty large scale war with not a superpower, but a power, a power of not a country of 90 million people with allies. That's not ideal, not ideal. You know, we, we got our butts kicked in a few wars leading up to this war by lesser powers than that. How did Afghanistan work out? We went into Afghanistan and we spent 20 years, 8,000 lives or 6,000 lives or something, basically trillions of dollars. You know, tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands of of service members, war fighters come back and they are on now disability because they're so impacted mentally or their bodies are damaged in some way, they're missing a leg or missing an arm. Like that's, that's not an ideal scenario and that's Afghanistan and that's like a stone age economy. We joked when we started the war, they were, they were living in caves. Guys, we lost a caveman, we lost a caveman, we left and we handed the government, we handed the country right back over to the people who were in charge, we got there. That's not winning. And so there's a, there's a, an element of, of, of, are we capable of taking on a country of 90 million people? Are we tape, cup of capable of taking on a country that has an actual military? I would say we didn't get the best outcome all the way going back to Vietnam. A rock was kind of a disaster. It took us, what, 15 years to kind of oust the guy in Syria. I mean, why were we even there? I don't know, but if you're going to be there, you're going to be there. Muslim win, and we didn't. It's a disaster. It's an absolute disaster. And so the track record isn't great. The track record isn't great. And that's what we voted for was let's stop this nonsense. It's not working out in our favor. It's causing us a lot of heartache. It's chewing through good American men and women as they go over there and then die or come back injured. And then when we finally leave, we're leaving a wreck, leaving a disaster or we've actually put out lost. And so when I saw that picture, I kind of got a little hope up, but I want to temper the hope just carefully because I want, if they're going to do something like that, I want to know that they're serious. And serious is going to take hundreds of thousands of volunteers all across the country. Because if you're going to win in a third party contest, you have to have volunteers all the way down to the county or precinct level. Some counties have dozens or hundreds of precincts. You need somebody in there watching the ballots to make sure the ballots aren't being screwed around with. You need somebody out there turning out votes. You need people knocking on doors. This takes hundreds of thousands of people. The two parties right now have an infrastructure in place to carry that out. Whether we like the candidates or not, the Republicans have an infrastructure. Whether we like the candidates or not, the Democrats have an infrastructure. It goes all the way down to the county and precinct level, often multiple people in each precinct that they've identified who have agreed to take the responsibility to deliver that precinct for their party. And they do a pretty good job of it. Good for people sitting in Tucker's cabin do the same thing. I don't know. Maybe, maybe, but it would require a lot of help. It would require a lot of money and a lot of help. And guess what? The money's not coming from big pharma. The money's not coming from big defense department contractor. The money's not coming from big medicine and the money's not coming from from big banks. Because these people are populists. They're not in it for those people. And so the money will come in against them. So the money's going to have to come from people like you and me as well. You know, five and ten dollars at a time, put them on a monthly stroke just to, here's a fine, you know, and if you can't get the commitment from hundreds of thousands of people, it's going to be a tough road to hoe. And you're just going to have to admit that you're handing the election over to someone else. And so I'm not here doing courage anybody or discourage anybody. I would love to support an effort from those four people and others. It would take a lot of people to help. But if they're not serious about it, they could actually do a lot of harm. And so I am going to sit back and be patient and hear from them, hear what they're working on up there and Tucker's living room and see how it goes. And if it seems to be going well, you'll have no bigger supporters than your humble host. If it seems like they're not serious, I don't know how I'm going to feel about it. I don't know how I'm going to feel about it. So, you know, the people, the landscape is, final thing I'll say about this, then we're going into tonight's content. The landscape has changed quite a bit. You know, 20 years ago, the idea of a third party coming along was nonsense. But in the age of YouTube and Spotify and Apple podcasts and Twitch and kick and everything else, hey, the landscape has changed. The ability to mobilize and activate people has never been higher than it is right now. The ability to bypass the traditional media structure that provides cover for the two major parties and go right to the people to go right into the living rooms or bedrooms or cars or phones, bathrooms of the average person has never, ever, ever been as accessible as it is right now. And that that may be enough. That may be enough, believe it or not. But we'll have to sit back and watch. Let's just give them some breathing space. Let's allow this, this tease that we got of the four of them sitting around the living room table with their spouses. Let's allow them to, let's allow them the space to accommodate this without casting judgment or decrying it or jumping in with both feet too early. Let's just see what happens. Let's see the plan they roll out. I think if I know the four of them, if they come up with a plan, if they decide to go this route, it will be a good plan. It'll be a good plan. If it's a good plan, I will be on board. I 100% will be on board. All right. Let me get into some of the content, because I want to go back to the scene of the crime. I want to go back to what happened in the immediate minutes after Charlie Kirk was taken down. The immediate minutes before Charlie Kirk had even been pronounced dead, before we first heard the name Tyler James Robinson, before we knew there was a 30 out six allegedly seen on the Losi Center roof, we first heard from Cache Patel. This is Cache Patel at 153 my time. This would be 1253 their time. This is precisely 30 minutes after everything happened. We get a tweet from Cache Patel. We are closely monitoring reports of the tragic shooting involving Charlie Kirk at Utah Valley University. Our thoughts are with Charlie. His loved ones and everyone affected. Agents will be on the scene quickly. And the FBI stands in full support of the ongoing response and investigation. Agents will be on the scene shortly. That's that's prospective. That means he believes FBI agents are on the way. And that made sense to me because the Salt Lake City Field Office is like 45 minutes away. If they're speeding, let's call it 35 or 40. It makes sense to me that they wouldn't be there yet. But then we get a press release from the FBI. This press release came out two days later. And in the press release, we get a different story. And so we already see the story sort of changing in real time. This is a this is a something that happens in this case quite a bit. The story seems to change. So here's the press release. We got two days later on September 12th. A little bit of the timeline. I'm reading right here where this purple line is a little bit of the timeline. Charlie was shot at 1223 PM on Wednesday. The first FBI agents arrived on the scene in 16 minutes with chiefs of police at 1239 and secured the scene. The FBI immediately launched fixed wing assets. Those are airplanes. Airplanes or maybe drones, I guess. But now we've spent that time line up because the first tweet was 30 minutes afterwards. And he says help is on the way. FBI agents are in route. Two days later, they say, no, they weren't in route at all. They were already there. In fact, they arrived with the chiefs of police. Were they just hanging out at the police station? Where were they? How did they how did they know to get there? Were they already in orm? Why were FBI agents in orm? Because if you're six, if you arrive in 16 minutes, you are close. You are very close. And why are you arriving with the chiefs of police? Is that who you're hanging out with? That's an interesting question. And I think it's a question that demands an answer. You know, we ask a lot of questions in this. We've asked a lot of questions of Erica Kirk. She's ignored most of them. Occasionally she'll answer one. And I say, we, I don't mean your humble host only. I mean, we as a community, we as an investigative body. A lot of people have asked Erica Kirk a lot of questions. And every now and then she'll respond to one. Usually with, with, with a snark and an ill will. But she at least responds. I think this is a question that needs a response. Cash, baby, buddy, pal. How the hell did FBI agents get there in 16 minutes? Where were they? Now it's possible. FBI agents were investigating something in Provo. We're orm. It's possible they were in the area. And they get a call that, oh my goodness, Charlie Kirk's been shot. Everybody to UVU promptly. And so they look up and they, I'm 16 minutes away, Sarge. I guess they don't have sergeants in the FBI. But I'm 16 minutes away. Boss, I'll be there in just a few minutes. And they roll up and they just happen to roll up at the same time as the chief of police. But in the event that's not what happened, where were they? Why were they in the area at all? And what were they doing? And did they actually arrive with the chiefs of police like in the same car or trailing each other? Was it a coordinated arrival? I think the answer to this question could begin to unravel whether or not the FBI had some sort of knowledge something was going to happen. Because I hate to go there. I hate to even think that. But it's kind of how I think these days. I was going to play a clip of him, but he basically just says the same thing. He was on Fox News and he's like, hey, as soon as we learned about it or FBI agents were there. And they were securing the scene by 1239 PM. Well, that's 16 minutes later. He said that on September 15th. So September 12th and September 15th, same story, September 10th, slightly different story, slightly different story. So let's go back to the scene. We actually have really good evidence of what the scene looked like in the immediate aftermath. A guy named Adam Bartholomew. He has a YouTube channel called Life is Driving. I've actually interviewed him on this program back in October. It was a disaster. But props to Adam Bartholomew for leaving us this video footage. He left it up on YouTube. He has it on X. I have downloaded a copy in case he ever gets rid of it. But it's really good footage. And it's been used very, very widely as part of this investigation, helping to identify certain people, knowing where people were to give him period of time, who was at this location. He's the reason we know Teryl Farmsworth, for example, took down the camera, moved the chair. So let's roll through this for just a second because we get an idea in the very immediate aftermath. What's happening on the scene? This is almost precisely three minutes after it happened, like three minutes and two seconds after it happened. And this is Adam Bartholomew rolling through out, I'll kill the sound and we'll just Let's watch him. roll through, but this is him rolling through the scene. Now, it's been three minutes. As you look at this scene, what do you notice? Now, we know, we believe at this point in time, we're three minutes after this. We know there were at least six UVU police officers there. That's been the statements that the UVU has given so far. We know now, looking back and having identified people, there were at least two more ununiformed officers there from other jurisdictions. I see one of them in the screen right now, but we'll point him out in just a minute. We know that there are police in the immediate vicinity. What we also, what we don't know at this time is where did the harm come from? Did the harm come from underneath the tent? Did it come from the Losi Center? Did it come from one of the crowd members? In other words, this entire vicinity is a potential crime scene. We don't know where the crime scene is. The question is, if you're one of these cops, how do you begin to establish a perimeter? Should you establish a perimeter? Where should that perimeter be? Right now, if let's just assume a gunshot came from right in front of the tent. Right in front of the tent. You've got a cameraman here picking stuff off the ground in front of the tent. Right next to this railing in front of the tent. You've got a guy picking stuff off the ground. What if he's picking up gunshot cases? What if he's picking up evidence? What if he's picking up a firearm that was used? What if he's picking up a cell phone that the shooter dropped and he's putting in his pocket? What if the, what if the, what if the shooting, I mean, hit his left neck? What if it came from where all these people, these two guys in red shirts right here from all these people standing? What if it came from right there? And you got people just milling about. So we'll let it roll for another second. Again, this is just three minutes afterwards. And Adam does a really, really good job here as a journalist of documenting the scene in the immediate aftermath. Look at all those people standing right there. And this is a cop right here. This guy in the foreground is a cop. What scene is he securing? Who is he talking to? How is he making sure evidence maintains his integrity? All he's doing is walking around with a guy with a paramedic bag. And there's this, there's this lady walking up here and distracting him, talking to him. How do we know she's not in on it? How we know she's not getting his attention to let somebody run off with evidence? Look under the tent. Look inside the perimeter of the tent. There are multiple people milling about under this tent. There are people grabbing stuff off the ground right next to where a crime happened, where a guy died. So as we're watching this and this is going to become an issue here soon. I guarantee you it's going to become an issue. As we're watching this, we have now, now this is Officer Bagley. He's the guy who testified. I believe this is Officer Bagley here. This felt figure on this, on the level here right in the middle. He's he's wearing a uniform and a hat. He appears to be the only guy trying to secure a crime scene. I've given Bagley a lot of help, but he appears to be the only guy trying to secure a crime scene. Now go under the tent. We have a Charlie Kirk security guy in a Maroon shirt under this speaker to the right. We have unknown man in red hat. Turns out he's a, he's a undercover cop from another jurisdiction. We have chief long just hanging out talking to people. We have another security guy standing under the tent. We have a guy in a suit standing under the tent. We've got a guy or a gal in, in hyped up sleeves just wandering around a crime scene in the very immediate aftermath of the crime scene. Obviously, this is before they paved over the crime scene. But if you have to come back and investigate this crime scene an hour later, three hours later, two days later, if you have to come back and try to figure out who killed Charlie Kirk, how and why, is this helping or hurting your case? If you're charged with prosecuting this case, is this helping or hurting your case that Charlie Kirk security guys are milling around in the exact area where he died? If you're the defendant, is this helping your ability to prove your innocence? How do you know people aren't dropping off evidence right there? How do you know people aren't picking up evidence? You got another guy in a short sleeve shirt bottom right right here, right? Right behind the word Adam. Just another rando comes walking in the scene. He just comes walking under the tent, going behind the table. Exactly where Charlie Kirk fell. He's walking through the blood. And I'm not making too big of a deal about this. This is a big deal. Look at all those people. Who's this guy in the pink hat? What's he doing? Why is he standing there? Who's this guy on the lower left in the, in the bucket hat? He's hanging out. And frankly, why is Adam Bartholomew who's doing a good job documenting this by the way? I'm not knocking his efforts here, but he's doing a good job documenting this. So what we've learned in the, in the sense then is this guy in the red hat standing right in front of the tent, right in the evidence scene is a undercover police officer. As he is, I believe this guy in the blue shirt right here behind the like buttons, the like and dislike buttons is right here is, I think this guy's an undercover officer as well. Then we have chief long who's here in the middle. And then we have a bunch of Charlie Kirk security guys just hanging out in the middle of a crime scene. These guys are not uniform police officers. They have no business being there. The camera comes even closer again guys. This is an active crime scene. We have the chief of police picking up evidence blowing in it. And then you'll see him banging on the table. Look at that. What are you doing? Has this been documented? Has anybody taken a picture of the crime scene yet? Has anybody attempted to establish where the evidence was at any given time? They're just wandering around a crime scene is going to be a murder investigation. I think everyone agrees is a homicide. Everyone agrees it's a homicide. No matter what you think happened at Charlie Kirk. No matter who you think killed him, how they killed him or why they killed him. Everyone on earth would agree. Everything you see here is a crime scene and has no business having random guy with white hat back here. There's two or three of them just hanging out, girl with with long bleach blonde hair back here, security guys milling about even the chief of police picking up evidence banging it on the table. How do you know that microphone's not going to become the piece of evidence we need to figure out what happened? At least nobody's under the tent for right now. That's going to change here in just a minute. Oh, now we got another guy wandering through. Terrell Farnsworth comes into the crime scene. There's no, there's no attempt to establish any kind of perimeter. You know, they'll put the caution tape up around a crime scene almost immediately upon arrival. You've got an undercover officer and a cameraman now making their way into the crime scene. Now look where cameraman goes. Walking through the crime scene, walking where I mean, how do we know there's not something right there? He's stepping all over that's going to become important. How do we know he's not moving the blood splatter around so that they can't tell about trajectory and force and everything like that? We don't. All of that has to be investigated at some point. And of course, one of the most egregious examples of anything that possible. Now we got another cameraman under the under the tent. So we have two cameraman now standing in the exact spot where the murder victim went down. We got two cameraman standing in the exact spot. There's no police officer observing them. There's nobody watching them. There's nobody telling them to move. We had at least six UVU police officers and two uniformed officers from other jurisdictions there and not one of them sought to establish a perimeter around the crime scene. And you're going to take this to trial and you're going to try to convict a man when the crime scene was absolutely destroyed from the moment it happened. And it's not like it was destroyed because there were no cops around to establish a perimeter. It was destroyed in the negligence of the cops. So they're there chatting. Here comes the chief. That's the deputy chief just walked by in the foreground. He's not telling anyone to get out of the way. He's not worried about them sloshing around in Charlie's blood back there. You got another cop now walking through. There's goes the chief again. This guy in the red shirt red hat down here at the bottom, a undercover police officer from another agency. Again, you still have a journalist basically in the perimeter just watching. Here goes the cop just wandering around not telling anyone to get back. Not he's got his back to tarot far. Tarot farms was going to be doing anything under there. We have no idea what he's doing. We were told all he wanted to do was save the footage. Well, he didn't save the footage from the other cameras. He didn't go get the SD cards from the other cameras. This guy doesn't seem particularly concerned at all that anyone's standing in the exact spot where the gunshot or the alleged gunshot took place. There's another uniform, a non-uniform police officer walking through the scene with his back to tarot farms. No idea what's going on right there. Tarot could be planning a gun. Tarot could be planning a bomb. Tarot could be planting anything. He could be picking up evidence. He could be walking away. No one cares. No one cares. He's looking around. He's looking around. He's made eye contact with this guy in the blue. Go back and look at that again He made eye contact with this guy in the blue Watch this The guy in the blue looks right at him here There's the guy in the blue comes in he turns around he whispers something watch this he walked he and tarot basically look at each other Look at that Yeah, you're good back there baller. Go ahead. Have fun. Yeah pick up the chair. He was killed in Stand on it. Stand on all the blood get it all swooshed around Make sure you change the dynamics of everything about that chair Make sure you change everything about it the blood splatter the everything make sure you just get rid of it all Make sure you stand in it and get it all over your shoes. You could track it around everywhere. So we have no idea what happened And make sure you take down the camera so that That whatever's on or in or near that look at this guy just picking stuff up back here How do you know he's not pick it up the the weapon? You got a guy just picking stuff up back here on the right. He just grabbing stuff walking off One of the themes that's gonna come out of this is that nothing was done right Everything fell below the standard of what should have been done The camera has now been taken down Terrell has taken down the camera and Is walking off with it and putting it on the table again changing the crime scene Pointing stuff out of it moving stuff around we're told he just he just took a an SD card out But we have no idea actually what he's doing back there. He's looking around very suspiciously I'll tell you that This guy right here in the blue is a cop his back is too terrible. He has no idea what's taking place under there I cannot imagine a crime scene anywhere in the world where this level of Negligence is taking place while a active crime scene is being altered in real time Again, this is not an example where someone gets shot in a grocery store in in the major metropolitan area And the police are not on the scene and it takes him 10 minutes to respond and people take advantage of it and start stealing stuff And in chaos it's not what I'm talking about I'm talking about a situation that absolutely could be controlled and they're just not doing it Here's the reason I raised this If you have this level of negligence at the crime scene this level of negligence literally three to five minutes after the Event happens. This is like five minutes six minutes after it happens There are multiple police officers wandering around in the immediate vicinity Not a single one of them is seeking to establish a perimeter Not a single one of them is trying to remove people from the scene who are not uniformed officers or not certified officers Not a single one of them is doing anything to make sure this investigation has any integrity whatsoever They're allowing footage to be taken off to take a taken away They're allowing cameras to be taken down. They're allowing the chair to be moved and stood in They're allowing things to be just picked up and people walk off. They have their back to people While people are actively grabbing stuff. They have no idea what they're grabbing back there No idea Now Do you believe all Terrell did was take an SD card? Can I let you in on a secret? I don't I Don't believe that that's all he did I don't at all believe that's all he did And here's the problem It's been destroyed We have no way to establish exactly what he did because whatever he did is gone And it was taken while a officer is with a badge holding a gun looking the other way Five eight feet away from And you're gonna try to kill a man over this You're gonna try to take Tyler Robinson's life over this there are people begging for it to be done They're on Twitter saying the most ghoulish things ever Fry him Put him out of his misery give him a firing squad what Hey, we haven't seen all the evidence, but that's need to hear him right there. We don't even have a crime scene that has any integrity We have no idea what took place under that tent and we never will We never will we can't We can't It's been fundamentally altered in the first five minutes That's not even to talk about the next five days what took place where they dug it up and paved over This is real time evidence not just of tarot farms were allegedly taking an SD card that's sinful enough But we've got the deputy chief of police banging the microphone on the table moving it We've got we've got security guards just walking through traips and all over stuff We have multiple camera men moving around behind the table walking through the blood pattern There's no caution tape. There's no police line tape There's nobody standing around at the points of ingress and egress and you can't come down here get the hell out of here What are you talking about why are you even trying to walk down here? This is a crime scene Instead they're playing on their phone they're walking around they're playing you know g.i. Joe or something I don't know what what is he looking for holding a gun You This set the tone for the entire investigation Every step of the way this is the way it goes Every step of the way this is the way it goes In the very immediate aftermath of this critical evidence things like Tyler Robinson allegedly Tyler Robinson walking up and down the street Is sent to TMZ not the chief of police not the FBI You Nothing about this is going to make sense as everything starts to come out because now I mean we've basically gotten to where they're going to bind it over to a jury. I mean almost assured I suppose it's possible the judge could look at this and say what do you get out of your mind you even produced any evidence He was even on the roof. How can he fire a gun? How can I have problem causably be fired a roof? It's not against the crime it's not against the law to go chickfully and you never showed pictures of him and chickfully you just told us he was there And every other picture you showed us boring, right? I don't know if it's him on campus But let's assume he binds it over the grand jury now. We're going to get to an interesting phase of the trial Because we're going to start to have discovered disputes We're going to have to start we're going to start having 702 hearings where they determine who's an expert and what they can talk about We're going to start to have evidence hearings evidentiary hearings where they determine what evidence is actually going to be put in front of the jury It's going to be a very interesting phase. It's going to be probably very long if I had to guess six months to a year and a half probably of this kind of nonsense going back and forth But what we're going to find out is every step of the way in all likelihood This investigation fell far below the standard of a decently run investigation And it started in the first three minutes I would say it started in the first three seconds When the single most important piece of evidence the body Was picked up like a side of beef and chucked into an SUV You I would say that's where it started But we know within the first three minutes the crime scene was already being destroyed So now we have pan-bondi Talk about when the FBI agents showed up keep in mind there were no FBI agents showing up When that three to five minutes we were talking about they allegedly showed up about 11 minutes later But pan-bondi even gets in on the action. She's the attorney general at the time FBI and ATF agents are on the scene Pray for Charlie. This is at two p.m. My time So that would be at one p.m. And that was when it was edited I guess we could look at the edited history um Yeah, when was okay, so that was 157 so that's uh 1257 She says FBI agents are on the way and then by uh Whatever time FBI agents were actually there So on the scene so that's 1 p.m. FBI agents are on the scene and ATF agents are on the scene That's 37 minutes after the fact they already have ATF and FBI agents on the scene That seems extraordinarily fast to me I think I think at some point somebody needs to ask how the hell did you guys know to get there so quickly FBI agents within 16 minutes and within 37 minutes we've confirmed ATF agents on the scene that seems fast Seems fast for a routine um A routine uh uh murder now we played this video footage before but I will never get sick of playing this video footage So we're gonna play it again This is some of the best footage that's ever been played And now we know precisely when this was taken it was exactly 50 minutes After the big bang took place 50 minutes 50 minutes We have this is Tempanooga's hospital. This is the emergency room You know one thing I don't see in any of this emergency room footage I don't see the SUV What did they do with the SUV after they dropped Charlie? I don't see it in the parking lot in any of the footage. I don't see it anywhere All right here comes Mikey. So that's 50 minutes. It took Mikey to get there What's what's Mikey doing for the first 50 minutes because there's a time I'm standing by this, he says 214. Wait a minute, why do we say 50 minutes if that's 214? And there come the other three, this just gets great. Now I will point out, and I think I pointed this out in the previous show, his book bag looks lighter than it looked in previous in previous appearances. He's still wearing his backpack. Mikey's still wearing his backpack. They still have their backpacks on. And it looks lighter. It looks lighter to me. What was in the backpack that has now gone from the backpack? I think that's a legitimate question for Danny Phillips. What did you take out of your backpack? Mikey's down to one strap on his backpack so we can't tell if it's the same size. But with his, we can't, and now we know Nate Walker no longer has his little passenger bag. And that's fine, you don't have to carry your passenger bag everywhere, but if you're going to carry your backpack and only 50 minutes is going by, where's your backpack? Or did I get the 50 minutes room? Let me go back and look at my notes here. Oh, one for mountain time. There you go, okay. Yeah, 114 mountain times, excuse me. So it was 50 minutes after. So I guess the obvious question is, if Mikey, Danny, and Blake knew that everybody had gone to the hospital, what did they do for 50 minutes? Where were they? Who were they talking to? When Mikey walked off, where did he go? Did he walk into a parking lot and get in a car? Did he talk to somebody out there? Did he stand out there in the parking lot by himself and make calls where he and Blake playing, you know, the little kids games? What were they doing out there? Did they order a cheeseburger? Were they waiting on Uber Eats? Did they run up to the, did someone in the comments say Chick-fil-A? Did they run up to the Chick-fil-A? At the sorenson center and grab a Chick-fil-A chicken tender sandwich, and they're delicious. Maybe they did, maybe they got a frosted lemonade. But what took him 50 minutes to show up at the hospital? That seems like an extraordinarily long period of time, especially when we were told, Mikey's the one who's the admiral, he's the captain. He's the amazing Mikey McCoy, he's the one ordering people around. He's the one calling the vice president. He's the one getting planes up in the air. What was he doing for 50 minutes? What's the sum it took him 10, four minutes to get Charlie Kirk to the hospital, which I think is a little long, but maybe it did. Let's say 10 minutes. What did they do for the next 40? If any of them talked publicly about what they did for those 50 minutes, has anyone asked Blake? Where did you go in the immediate aftermath? You said you called your mom, who else did you call? Did you call anyone else? You put that phone away. But what did you do for 50 minutes? That looks suspicious to me, especially when Blake told us it was, I'm not gonna play that, what Blake's initial interview on September 11th, he said it took him about 25 minutes to get to the hospital. Well, you missed it by a factor of 100% sir. You missed it by half. 25 minutes might be explainable with traffic, trying to get to your car, gotta get over there. Now 50 minutes starts to border on the absurd. It starts to sound like you did something else in the meantime. Now you told us you called your mom, has anybody released a call log? Erica Kirk told Candace who Mikey called. Has anyone released a call log of who they called in the immediate aftermath? I think it would be awfully informative. Who did they talk to? Where did they go? How did they get there? It looked like Blake and Mikey sort of walked off together off into the background. Did they park in that parking lot? Did they get in the car with somebody in that parking lot? Did they meet with somebody in that parking lot? These are questions that are going to have to be answered. If we're gonna get to the bottom of who killed Charlie Kirk, how and why? These are gonna have to be answered. Because you don't only wanna know what happened, you wanna know what didn't happen so that you don't have to chase rabbit trails. If you get a call log from Blake from both of his phones, you get a call allegedly. You get a call log from Blake and it's just his mom. You go, okay, we went on the phone. Actually, we don't know because they use all these weird apps to telegram, you can make calls through that, you can make calls through FaceTime, you can make calls through, you know, what's app? So maybe we still wouldn't know, but at least we would know he didn't call using AT&T or Verizon. Then we get another really weird thing here. Because we have now a timestamp on what time Terrell Farnsworth left campus. This was a live feed. Notice the time here, 236 mountain time. At 236 mountain time, we have Terrell Farnsworth walking out like a boss, look at him on the phone, backpack on, not a care in the world. Philip Goldberg back there getting comforted. I don't know, I don't know the guy's name in the LA hat here, the green LA hat. Looks like he doesn't skip a gym day though. I'm all right with that. Well, if that's 237 PM mountain time, that's a long time after it happened. That's more than two hours afterwards. What were they doing for more than two hours before they leave campus? That's more than two hours. I asked you a question. Just look at any other faces. Outside of Philip Goldberg, Jr. Did any of them seem remotely bothered by anything that happened? Their friend, their boss or their contractor, whatever. The guy they worked with on a daily basis was tragically murdered. I talked to people the next day who are still crying. These guys seem fine. Go back to, go back in your mic and play it again, but go back to that footage of Mikey and Danny and who else was in there? Mikey and Danny and Blake and whoever else it was, a Nate showing up at the hospital. Did any of them see particularly bothered? 50 minutes after it happened. They have no idea what condition he's in. I'm sure they assume they talk to people. I mean, Ben Shapiro had talked to people who had been updated on his condition on what was going on in the car. Did any of them seem particularly bothered to you? Did any of them seem like this is an out-of-the-ordinary event they didn't expect? I've seen people more upset when their bird died. I've seen people more upset when their gerbil dies. When their goldfish goes. Like they can't bring themselves to flush it down the toilet. They take out the backyard's variant, like in a wall of tears. Did they look that way? Did they look particularly broken up to you? They seem fine for being honest. It seems like they're going to visit their buddy who sprained his ankle on the basketball court. They finished the game and then they came over to see if he's doing all right. That's a real bother to me. It's a real bother to me, particularly from someone who was like looking around to make sure no one was catching him doing whatever he was doing in the bloody footprints of the crime scene. Moving the chair, the bloody chair he was standing in. Where is that chair, by the way? Where's the chair for the tables for the tent? Where's the platform he was standing on? Where's the platform Dan Flood was standing on? Where are the drapes that were over the tables? You know, we talk a lot about where's a shirt for the shirt be tested for something that might indicate what happened to him? Well, not the chair he was in. That'd be a pretty good source of information. Why was there more concern with locking down the hospital than locking down the crime scene? Let's try to use a little out of balance to you. People get shot every day. They go into the, they go into hospitals every day with gunshot wounds. If you live in a major metropolitan area like Chicago, Detroit, we used to live in Montgomery, Alabama. If you listen to police scanner, it's gunshot wounds all night. Sometimes you'll go to the ER because your kid is sick at one in the morning and there's three or four gunshot wounds taking place. The exact same time, they don't lock the hospital down. They don't take the cameras. They don't put police tape up. They don't tell people they can't come or go. Why is the microphone he's holding in an acrylic box at a fundraiser? Why is it not in an evidence lock or somewhere? Where it could be tested to see was it functioning properly? Did it short out? Was it damaged in some way and everything that happened? Why was it released to the wife to use as a fundraiser? Where's the road microphone? You would think if that road microphone, I've got one here, something here. These are pretty robust. You would think if this road microphone was still intact and attached to his shirt, even if they had to cut the shirt off for extraordinary heroic life-saving measures, but this thing is still in his shirt, like this isn't going anywhere, oh yeah it is going somewhere. I did that earlier to test it, it didn't go anywhere. This thing is pretty robust. It's not going to come off, it didn't come off when whatever is happened in a shirt went all crazy. It's not going to come off when they carry him to the car. Don't you think this is a pretty critical piece of evidence? Where is this thing? I'd love to find the magnet, if I could put it back on. I'll find it after the show. But those things are pretty robust. Where is it? Where is it? Is it in a police locker somewhere or is it in an acrylic case where they're fundraising off of it? All this stuff could be tested, all this stuff could be evaluated by examiners, all this stuff could be evaluated by investigators, by law enforcement and professionals. To determine, is the microphone still functional? Was it ever on? Was it still recording after the fact? We've talked a lot about the necklace and the cell phone that the police should have taken that. Shouldn't they have taken the road microphone he was wearing? The necklace he was wearing? I raise all this because at some point if this does go to trial and Tyler Robinson stays alive, these questions will have to be addressed at something. Where is the road microphone? You want to tell us the road microphone didn't explode and we're just crazy animals for suggesting it might have been damaged and pieces of it might have been on the floor board of the SUV he was transported in which it shows the microphone. This is the microphone he was using. I use this microphone the other day. I recorded hours of footage on this microphone. The footage exists in two places, three, really. It exists here. It exists in the receiver and it exists in the computer. I mean, that audio is in three different places. But it's still here because it hadn't been overwritten. If you plug this right now into a computer, it will play the last audio that I recorded. If you're an investigator looking into this and you're trying to rule out everything and you're sold out on a gunshot, isn't that an easy thing to do? Where's that microphone? Why don't we have it? Here's a screenshot. This is from 11 p.m. at Utah Valley Hospital. Alert. Emergency condition impacting Utah Valley Hospital. This area is now on lockdown. Do not exit building until further notice. Again, people get shot every day. Not only did they lock down the hospital where he was, they locked down a hospital in another city. Utah Valley Hospital is in Provo. It's like miles away and it was locked down. One of the things that's going to come up in this investigation is what did you do and why was it different from what you normally do? What's your standard protocol and what did you do? If you're Tyler Robinson's attorney, don't you want to know that question? What did you do and did you do the same things you do in other murder investigation? When someone else gets shot in an Orom, you told them they let private contractors come in and take the footage of it. Do you have footage of a murder? And you let a private contractor just come in back there and move the chairs around, stand up in the chairs, grab the cameras off, move the cameras over to the table, take stuff out of the camera, take stuff off of the camera, whatever it is. Is that how you normally handle a murder investigation? People just traips all over the crime scene. You're going to have to convince a jury that this was done properly and that the evidence before them is exactly what they would get in any other murder investigation. In the immediate aftermath of this, in the immediate aftermath of this, a couple of strange things happened. Couple of very strange things happened. One of them was that other people were told they were targets and could likewise have a similar fate. Here is Candace Owens describing this. This is back in October that she's describing it. But she's describing something that happened weeks early. There is a real risk here, right? I do not accept and you know, do you guys that Charlie Kirk lost his life because he really pissed off the trans lobby? It terrifies me to think that I'm a day that Charlie died. I got multiple phone calls from people who said that me and Tucker should lay low because we're also on the list and they never told us who specifically told them that, by the way, now I'm wondering why they never told us who specifically told them that. I called Tucker. I'm like, I'm hearing or you hear me say something. I'm hearing that they're saying that we're next. And now I go, was that supposed to be a threat to me and Tucker to have us watch the public execution of a friend of ours and then to call us and to say you should lay low for a little bit because you guys were hearing that you guys are on a list. Was that supposed to be a threat? Because why wouldn't you be more forthcoming with exactly who you heard that from? And I said, I remember saying I was like, did the feds say this? Who said this specifically? Why aren't they calling me and Tucker? Why am I calling Tucker and telling him about this? And I did. He will tell you that. David Charlie Kirk were shot. This really happened. And I'm coming out of the grief stage and realizing, I think that was an element of this. I think that was an element, a threat. One of the recurring questions we get on this show time and time again is, why is Megan Kelly? Why is Megan Kelly being weird about this investigation? Why is she accepting the feds' lop narrative? Our friend Travis, over at Nilo X on X, found this little goodie from Megan Kelly where she described a threat she received. And Abby texted me saying, stand down, like, do, hold on before you come. And I was like, what happened? There was a threat that had been fast. That was really nasty. And it was very specific, which is scary, especially 10 days after a child was assassinated. I said, send it to me. And she said, MK, I don't think you should read it, you know, it's being handled. And I said something I've never said to Abby before, don't make me ask twice. So I forwarded along and we hung up the phone. I start seeing a little bit of it and I'm like, holy shit. It was fast to pretend to attack or do to leave in 45 minutes. This is serious. They know details. It's pretty descriptive. They kind of know the location. And it was kind of the same, the same threat that killed Charlie. Kind of the same threat that killed Charlie. I would say the three most prominent conservative podcasters on September 10th were Megan Kelly, Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens. The three people who have traditionally not bought the mainstream narrative of crimes and government operations. The three people who probably would be most likely to look into this and say, this doesn't make sense. I don't like the looks of this. It looks like something other than Tyler Robinson might have conspired to have Charlie Kirk removed from this earth. And I think it's funny that those were the three who were targeted with these threats. You didn't have to target Betty Johnson. Things on the team may or may not be compromised. I don't know why he's so committed to the team. Same with Jack Bassobick, same with Officer Tater-Tot. Same with Blake Neff, Andrew Colvet, Graham Allen. Like these people for whatever reason, whether it's their compromised or their paid or whatever it is, these people are on the team squarely on the team. You don't have to worry about them investigating who killed Charlie Kirk, how and why. But Tucker Carlson, he might. And he's out here releasing Thomas Crook's videos. He's out here releasing 9/11 videos. He doesn't buy any mainstream there. You tell him that this is what the mainstream says. because he's like, they didn't kill, Lee Harvey Oswald didn't kill JFK, the government killed him. Well, that's somebody you're gonna have to keep quiet. That's somebody you're gonna have to control. Same thing with Megan Kelly. Look at her work on the co-burger case in Idaho. Well, Megan Kelly's in there saying, well, it sounds like someone else might've been in the house. Why did they knock the house down? I don't know, I'm not sure this guy did it. Why didn't we get a trial? Why did we get a life without parole plea? Why would we never get answers to what happened? Megan Kelly is someone who could have been a real thorn in their flesh on this investigation. Now, look, it can't his own. That's a loose end, you've got to tie down if you're gonna pull something like this off. You've got to find a way to quiet her. What better way than, hey, perhaps you should lay low. You and Tucker should lay low. Who said that? I'm not gonna tell you, but you're on the list. You're on the same list. Oh, we need to believe she's on some trans list in St. George, Utah. That's the list she's on. That's the story we're going with that Tyler Robinson and his magic, the gathering friends and his guys in there playing dungeons and dragons are somehow coming up with a list and putting Tucker Carlson and his own on it. That's the story here. No, no, this looks coordinated. This looks like let's identify the people we have to shut down in order to get this thing and pull this off. Let's make sure they get the notice that they don't want to play around with us. We're gonna use the same language. We're gonna fax a threat, fax. We're gonna fax a threat. When's the last threat that was faxed? If we're being honest, go back, go back through history. When was the last threat that was faxed? Probably pre 9/11? Who uses fax machines? I remember one time I went to, I called to get medical records, it's 10 or 15 years ago. It was a wild bag. We were moving and I needed to take my kids medical records with me. Then so I said, I'm gonna come by and pick them up. I said, we'll just fax them. You will, where? Where are you gonna fax these records? Who faxes things in 2025? Who faxes anything? Much less a vague or a highly specific threat to Megan Kelly. It seems like there was an effort to contain the investigation. Why would you wanna contain the investigation? Well, guys, we're sitting here right now. On August 2nd, we're like six weeks away, five, six weeks away from the one year anniversary of this. Tyler Robinson hasn't even been determined to, they have not even established probable cause to determine that Tyler Robinson needs to go to trial. There are people spending thousands of hours of their own time on this investigation. You multiply that times tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions of people who are interested in this investigation who are actually actively looking into it spending time, getting on the computer, researching stuff, pulling property records. May my goodness, Daisy spent hours looking at carpets in funeral homes in Utah to try to determine which room was Charlie Kirkkin when they filmed that horribly creepy video of Eric Kirk draped all over the casket, the corpse, not just the casket. They could not have imagined, Daisy, eight months, nine months later looking over funeral home carpet. We're not alone. There's a guy in Australia named Muppet Masher. I didn't think that's his Christian name, but that's what's handled, that's what he goes by. Now, he made it his life's mission to identify everybody at the scene, everyone at the scene. Then he's done a really good job. I think there are only a couple of people still outstanding that I'd like to know who they are that he's not able to determine who they are yet. Now, there's a guy in a blue shirt and a pink hat and no black bed nurse has spent a lot of time trying to figure out who that is. He's got a pony tail, nobody knows who that is. He's all over the crime scene, walking back and forth, picking stuff up, kicking stuff with his feet, moving stuff out of the way. We have no idea who that guy is. Do you think they anticipated Muppet Masher creating court boards with Polaroids on it and then writing in the names as he identifies everybody one by one? No. Do you think they imagined Ian Carroll opening the web.io and uploading every court document and every piece of evidence into this thing? And so that like for a nominal fee every month, you could access this database and search like natural language query transcripts of every podcaster covering this and who killedCK.com with all the transcripts uploaded that you could natural language query? No. But do you think there's evidence that exists that whoever did this was afraid that people like Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelly might dig into this and launch a decentralized investigation? Yes, yes, I do. I think the threats are that evidence. The threats are that evidence. And we've just gone to the crime scene. What happened at the hospital? Did it meet the standard of how you handle a dead body? Was the investigation done exactly the way and murder investigation is always done? Is the person who was assigned to investigate it was he allowed to do his investigation? Well, look at that later in the week. Did the medical examiners do anything unusual in this case? How long should this autopsy have taken place? How long did it take? Where did the body go before and after the autopsy? How long should that have taken? I did a whole show on it last week or two weeks ago when I was speculated, I've learned a lot since then. I know some mortician lady on YouTube, clip that episode out. It was great. I don't mind it at all. She did a great job. Disagreved me on a lot and I don't care. I'm not prideful. I don't care if people disagree with me. But she went through and looked at her own timeline and suggested of when things might have been able to take place. At some point, they're gonna have to come off the timeline. At some point, that medical examination is going to be evaluated, that autopsy's gonna be evaluated. And we're gonna see what time it started and what time it ended. We're gonna see every single procedure that was done. We're gonna know all the pictures that were taken. We may not see the pictures, but at least we'll have knowledge of how many pictures were taken and how many pictures are gonna go in front of the jury and all these kinds of things. Was this autopsy handled properly? Was all the evidence preserved that should have been preserved at the autopsy? Was everything photographed? It should have been photographed. Based on some of the injuries they released in the autopsy clippings, I guess you could call it, or a little copy paste out of the autopsy report that the state used in their recent filing and supportive binding this trial for a jury. We were able to figure out the nature of some of the injuries to Charlie's heart, to his lungs, to the space between his ribs, to his brain, to his neck, to the soft tissue in his neck, to the cartilage tissue in his neck, all the different pieces there, all the vascular structure. It talked about which ones were damaged and which ones weren't. All that complicates the autopsy, it slows it down. In order to evaluate that those injuries happened, you have to appreciate the injuries and then you have to do things to document the injuries and then to preserve the evidence from those injuries. Were those things documented properly? Were they preserved? Joseph Scott Morgan, and I talked about that a great deal. I think that's going to be really illuminating. I don't want to spoil the surprise, but it was a really, really deep, rich discussion. And we were able to establish, from an expert, from Joseph Scott Morgan, who has served as an expert witness many times, who has trained medical professionals, who do these types of things, who's trained police officers, who do these types of things. We were able to establish, through that conversation, sort of a minimum standard that almost had to be met in order for this autopsy to be any good at trial. It'll be very interesting to see if they met that standard. Because on the off chance they did not meet that standard, it's going to be difficult to prove Tyler Robinson did this. It's going to be difficult to prove you a shot with a 30 out of six. It's going to be difficult to say that he was shot with a 30 out of six from a roughly nine degree offset. It's going to be difficult to preserve or prove that he was shot from an elevated position from 138 yards away. There are minimum standards that must be met in an investigation starting at the crime scene. I would argue those standards were obliterated. They were obliterated. Meaning the crime scene no longer has much value. The value begins to diminish with each movement of each object with each person who walks through it. Now, good luck going back now any kind of sound analysis. The sound of that facility has changed because now there's concrete and flower planters where there used to be soft grass and soil. Good luck trying to recreate the height and the position because there's concrete planters there. I mean there's concrete papers there. Good luck and if you don't have that seat, good luck finding a chair that's the exact match. Because you're going to want to do all this stuff. And if this stuff wasn't preserved properly, how are you going to prove that the gunshot came from the location you claim it did? It's almost like there was never supposed to be an investigation. I believe more and more every day that I dig into this. This is not something I raised with Joseph Scott Morgan when we talked the other day. But it's almost as if Tyler Robinson was not supposed to turn himself in. I don't think he was supposed to survive. And if he wasn't supposed to survive, if that was the plan that you were going to take an innocent person of Patsy or maybe not an innocent person, we don't know what his plans were that day. But if you were going to take someone who did not pull the trigger on the 30 out six from the low season roof and you were going to remove him from this earth before he turned himself in. Do you have much qualms with removing him from this earth while he sits in Utah jail waiting on trial? I renew my concern and I renew this often because I want this to be front of mind for people. I think it helps keep Tyler Robinson alive. I have grave concern for Tyler's safety. Last thing I want to do. When Candace Owens released this footage last week, she not only aided the investigation because we were able to now get an actual camera angle where you could actually see, you know legs, a body, a torso, a head. It's not just pixelated blob moving across the thing. But again, I pause it here. You can't point to a 30 out six here. It's a three and a half foot long gun, 42 inch long gun. There's no 30 out six there. Period in the story. I don't know whether there's additional footage of this quality that exists. But the footage she played, and I'll just kill the volume and let it roll, the footage she played is an enhanced version, a higher quality. There's no gun there, by the way. I just going to keep pointing that out. There is no gun there. There's not a 42 inch long firearm in that man's hands. It just doesn't exist. But the footage she played was enhanced quality of footage that's already been made available. Think about the consequences of that. Now, maybe this is all she has. Look at, I have no idea what she has in the hopper. Maybe this is all she has. Maybe whatever her source was, this is all they were able to capture and give to her. But what if it's not? What if it's not? Because one of the things we've had difficult, a difficult time discerning is whether and what was in this guy, whether he had a gun and if not a gun, what did he have in his hands? There's no gun there. What did he have in his hands when he climbed off the roof? But her footage ends there. I'm very curious when this goes to trial or perhaps sooner if there's enhanced footage from other angles. Will we be able to get an answer about what was in his hands when he climbed off the roof or jumped from the roof or ran off towards the street? Will we be able to see any better? Because at some point you've got to put a gun in that man's hand. He's not accused of throwing a screwdriver at Charlie Kirk. You can't tell me there's a screwdriver on the roof and that's enough. Now, I said one more thing. It was actually two. Oh, goodness gracious. We've got more footage from the Joseph Scott Morgan interview. I can assure you there were serious discussions taking place right here. Julian Dory put this up on X. I can assure you there was a very serious discussion taking place right there. I have no idea what it was about. But do you see the level of respect? This is a guy who disagrees with my conclusions. He's not calling me evil. He's not calling me demonic. He's not calling me stupid. He's not suggesting I have ulterior motives. There's a road microphone in front of me. If you want to know what I recorded on that road microphone right next to my glass. I guess I gave that away. And the Alp right there. That doesn't help either. But but that's an off the record conversation while the cameras weren't going. There was no there was no anger. There was no ill will. Next yourself a question. If Andrew Colvette and I were in a room together and we were disagreeing on what took place on that day. Do you think that would be the scene? Him showing me something on a phone and demonstrating something with his hand in a medical professional way. And saying, Hey, Baron, have you considered X, Y and Z. Let me show you something. Let me pull something up on my phone that demonstrates the anatomy I'm talking about. Now imagine this. I mean, I don't even remember what he was saying right there. I don't know if Dief took that or Julian took that. Again, that you got to be very careful apparently when you're on someone else's set. They're constantly imaging you. It was a level of of of friendliness, kindness and mutual desire to get to the truth of what happened. I don't think he's operating a bad faith and I don't believe he thinks I'm operating. But at some point they're going to have to establish there's a firearm somewhere. And if the footage of him climbing off the roof is actually as high quality as that footage there, we should get an answer to that question. Oh, yeah, this is what I was going to go to Candace's tweet from was it today or yesterday? Oh, here it is. This gives me a clue, perhaps, the answer to my question of whether additional footage might exist. You guys may read into this differently. Here's how I read it. Hey, guys, just wanted to let you know that the influencers and TPSA are absolutely lying about the existence of footage of Tyler Robinson or any person for that matter, assembling the gun on the rooftop. That footage does not exist. Save this tweet. It will age well. I'm just making a guess here. I'm just going to guess that the footage we've seen might not be the end of all the footage we end up seeing. I'm just waging a guess. But bam, bam, bam, do you know for a fact? No, I don't. But bam, bam, bam, as she told you, no, no, she hasn't. But I can read between the lines. If there's a 30 dot six on the roof, at some point in some angle of some footage, it has to be visible. It's too big of a firearm to hide, especially if someone's screwing it together with a screwdriver. And if she's confident making that statement in the shadows of the mountain of evidence she's already provided us on what took place on that rooftop, then I'm guessing she might have a reason to say that. already caught him lying once. Oh, you can see him pull the trigger. You can see him take the shot. No, you can't. No, you can't. You can't see him in the quality that you guys saw in the courtroom and you can't even see it in the better quality that she was able to provide. If she drops additional footage, it will be a nightmare scenario for the prosecution. It will be a nightmare scenario for the Fett Slop narrative. It will be a nightmare scenario for the idea that Tyler Robinson was on that roof with a 30 out six. It'll be a nightmare. No 30 out six, no conviction. I'm just telling you right now, he's not alleged to have taken a shot with another weapon. He's alleged to have taken a shot with a 30 out six. He's not alleged to have thrown a screwdriver 138 yards and hit Charlie Kirk in the neck. He's alleged to have put a gun together with a screwdriver. That's what they tell us. Actually heard somebody make a comment and I thought about it. I didn't actually pull the filings, but I could start thinking about it. And they may be right that there's actually no allegation in any of the filings to date that he did actually use the screwdriver to put the 30 out six together and that the 30 out six came in in pieces. That may not be the allegation. I have to go back and look at that. Maybe I'll have that tomorrow. - We briefly mentioned that on the last episode. I think the most recent filing where they were siding a bunch of stuff from the medical examiner's report, I think that's the first time we've seen them. It is actually, it was exited 3.1 as a screwdriver. And they tried to say that the photo of the screwdriver is what they're siding and they're saying that that's what he used to put together the gun. But did they say he did it on the roof? - No, they just cite the exhibit of the photograph that was taken on the roof. - Okay, yeah. So I think I don't think we have any official filing, any official statement that's made it in front of a judge or that could make it in front of a judge that says he assembles it on the roof. Only that the screwdriver ended up on the roof and that the gun at some point was assembled. But the Fedsloppers have told us that's what took place. They told us they saw it. Oh, you can see him putting this gun together with a screwdriver that you better be able to. Or the credibility of the Fedslopp narrative is gonna take another massive hit. It just is. I think right now, friends, the momentum is in our side, it's in our favor. I genuinely think that you got a question. - Yes, they did say it. So it says-- - That he assembled it on the roof? - Yeah, it says here. I'll give you the link in the run if you want. It says, "Defendant use a screwdriver "to assemble the rifle on the low-sea building roof." - Now, I did not remember seeing that. So that's good, that's good to know. We aim to be right. We aim to be right. That's what I mean by being right. So now we do have a statement that they say he assembled on the roof. So you better be able to see it. Candace doesn't think you can. Apparently she has a reason to believe that. Maybe she has a source who's seen the footage or maybe she had that footage until she dropped it on people's heads. (laughs) Who knows what she has in her tool bag? - I don't know, guys. I think the momentum's in our favor. I think the fed slot narrative is crashing down all around them. Crashing down all around them. They'll be interesting to see how it plays out. I pray for Tyler's safety. I don't know if he left the house with clean hands that day. I honestly don't know. I don't know if he knew that Charlie Kirk there would be an attempt on Charlie Kirk's life or not. I don't know if he thought he was part of some criminal conspiracy to take Charlie Kirk out. I'm pretty convinced he did not himself plan to remove Charlie Kirk from this earth and accomplish that objective. I'm pretty convinced. I'm open to it. I could be convinced of the one. But every piece of evidence that comes out furthers the notion that that's not what happened. Every single piece of evidence that comes out makes me more convinced that's not what happened. But I remain open to it. I'm not going to close my mind to any outcome. I'm not closing my mind to a multi-agency cover up. I'm not closing my mind to some foreign mercenary group showing up and doing this without the knowledge or approval of any government. I don't think so, but I'm open to it. Show me evidence of it. I'll believe it. But each new piece of evidence seems to suggest that Tyler Robinson didn't do it. But if he left the house that day intending to be part of something, then he's not what we would call innocent of all charges. Or he's not innocent, but he might be innocent of the charges he's charged with right now, which is killing Charlie Kirk. That's two different things. You can be innocent of killing Charlie Kirk and still very much have been part of some crime. Maybe you're the getaway driver. Maybe you're the guy who throws the clothes away. Maybe you're the guy who plants the gun. Maybe you're the guy who picks up the gun. I don't know what your role is. But if he didn't leave the house that day intending to shoot Charlie Kirk from the Losi Center with a 30 out of six, then he should not be found guilty of it. The criminal justice system should have a very high standard before it can make somebody. You should be far more willing to let a guilty person go than you are to convict an innocent person. And in cases where the evidence is this muddy and this confusing, I don't think you have a choice. I don't think you have a choice. You can't prove your case. Prime scene was all screwed up. There's no video footage that he has a 30 out six. A very, very man. Lots of murders aren't video footage. Yeah, but when there are, do you expect to see what they tell you you should see? You know, if somebody gets shot on a street corner and there are no street cameras around and there's nobody video recording it, you're not gonna have footage of it. But if they tell you somebody, you know, Bill shot Steve on a street corner and then there's video footage of it and Bill doesn't have a gun in his hand. As Steve falls over dead, you are allowed to look at it and say, I don't see a gun. I don't even see him pointing that direction. He's looking the other way. Why are you telling me he did it? Oh, I promised he did it. No, I'm allowed to use my common sense. I'm allowed to look at it and say, I don't see a gun. We have video footage of somebody, something running across that roof and I don't see a 30 out six in their hands. It's a big gun. It's a big gun. I told you I got out in the yard and crawled around with rifles the other day. They're hard to hide. They're hard to hide because you got to kind of use them as a counterbalance. You can't crawl with one in your chest. You got to kind of out here with it as you're crawling around. You got to kind of tuck your hand around the stock, the forward part of the stock as you crawl and that gun is just hanging out. Or if you're doing the little lateral crawl, you got to hold the whole thing in your hand under your arm and that thing is sticking out behind you and it's sticking out in front of you. I tried to pull that thing up. You don't have balance. You can't do it. It's too awkward. So I think this will be a fun week. 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In the meantime, I will roll through some of your comments, because this is where we get to interact. This is the fun point. We make the screen a little larger here. Ben, have you all looked into Russell Kennington? If you want to rest at the next morning at UVU, the intelligent dentist has been covering the eyewitness video more than released. Thank you and Daisy. Christ is King indeed. I have looked into Russell Kennington. Russell Kim Kennington. We showed his arrest records. We talked, we showed the video of him being carried out. We looked at the gun, tried to figure out what that was. Was it his gun? Was it someone else's gun? Was it a gun at all? Was it something else? Is that an evidence tag hanging from it? We have covered that, but I appreciate you asking. Greetings B. I don't think there was a 9-1 call, because they would have directed them to a higher-level trauma hospital. Tim and August was only L3, awful. I've learned so much from you. Thank you. I don't know that that's true. If you've got a gunshot wound to the neck and somebody is five minutes away and on the way to your hospital, I don't know that you can tell him, hey, fine if safe place to do a U-turn and drive 20 minutes the other way, I'm not sure that call would go. Ben, love the show. I believe Charlie told the beefster over my dead body to his offer. So, Erica Kirk said, yes, and couldn't not show her response with, here I am. It's done. I said, he indeed. I mean, that's a thought. That's a thought. I don't know. I don't know. I don't disagree with your conclusion, but I don't have any like firm bases for it other than she's really weird. Heavy sent email regarding Jacob Reese's being on the ground 910 chief staff of EP, I think he managed clearing out of Tim Pinoges because much smaller, even if ill equipped. I'd love your thoughts. Dark if true. I've seen no evidence. Jacob Reese's was there. Jacob Reese's is the chief of staff for JD Vance, at least for now. I think he's leaving here soon or has already left. But he certainly was on September 10th. I've seen no evidence Jacob Reese's was there. I've heard people making this allegation that that he was there and it's based on a loose interpretation of something Brian Harpole said on the Sean Ryan show. I'd play it, but I don't want to pull it up. He said something like, you know, then I got on the phone with the the vice president called the chief of staff. I don't know if he's talking about the chief of staff of the hospital. All hospitals have a chief of staff. I don't know if he called the chief of staff of the hospital. If he called Mikey McCoy, who is the chief of staff? You know, Mikey McCoy allegedly was the one interacting with with vice president Vance. So I don't think we can draw that conclusion that that Jacob Reese's was at Tempanoge's hospital. It would certainly be weird because no one has mentioned his name associated with his case and any capacity whatsoever. And that would be a new arrival on the scene. If Jacob Reese's was there, that would, in my opinion, be very suspect because why has that been hidden? He's a pretty big dignitary. I think someone would have mentioned him by now. So we'd have to, we'll have to hold, hold judgment on that. We'll have to reserve judgment on that. I missed the Mason jar wine glass. Well, how about Mason jar tea glass? This is I drank my tea out of this morning. I'll bring the Mason jar wine glass back. I think Ed sent those, unless she sent two of them. I'll bring them back. If a Rick Cutler was Charlie Kirk's security, I was the only one behind the barricade in facing Charlie Kirk. He needs me to believe he was aware of what was about to happen. I don't believe that's accurate. I think there were others behind the barricade. They had people around the tent and they had people in the crowd as well. I don't think he was the only one. So I disagree with your conclusion. So grateful for my husband providing prayers for me to find a job. Well, Meg's in cheese. I will pray for you. I'm assuming the Lord Almighty knows who Meg's in cheese is. I'm assuming he does. Greetings. Baron Andrew from your number one fan in La Trobe. Pennsylvania, home of the first banana split. Yum. Christ's king of the gobacks. Hey, um, the first banana split and rolling rock. You missed the real thing they're known for. But bananas splits are delicious. There used to be an ice cream place near where I used to live. Uh, it was called Brewsters. And if you brought your own banana on a certain day, they, they, you got like a banana split for a buck or something. You maybe got a buck off. I can't remember. But you could pick the ripeness of your banana, like you like a really ripe banana in your banana split. Bring a brown baby. You like them kind of green? Bring that grass-tasting thing. A great episode with Julian Dory. Oh, thank you. Have you already watched it? You must be a member of his Patreon. I enjoyed it quite a lot. I really did. Uh, thank you for my second order of t-shirts. Perfect timing to make them to Ocean City, Maryland with me tomorrow. See if high IQ people there lost my husband of 20 years in 2021. First, I'm sorry for your loss. Um, but I'm glad you'll be looking awfully high IQ while you're strolling along the beach in Ocean City, Maryland. That, you know, some consolation, some consolation, uh, but I am sorry for your loss. Uh, Miami Beach, Florida, checking in, uh, Christy's King and Dee. Uh, hi, Baron, great interview with Julian looking forward to part two. Thank you for your work. Blessings to you and your family. Two people have watched it. If Julian gets a bunch of new Patreons, this could really help my standing with him. He might have me back. I kid. I kid. Sort of. Uh, evening back evening. I feel like I need to tip my cap when you say evening. Uh, you were close on last name a few weeks ago. It's pronounced Millray. Oh, number one fan in Kimberly Idaho of these number two. Oh, tell him that. It's just King indeed. Millray. I've never heard that name before. That's beautiful. Uh, we're here with our new baby girl awaiting our first high IQ show, awaiting her first high IQ show. Thanks, Baron Christy's King indeed. I wonder if my granddaughter's ever watched. She was here today. She was asleep when she came in. Um, but yeah, thank you. Uh, you're welcome. You're welcome. Uh, and I hope she enjoys it. It's been a fun six months. Love my RBP mug. Christy's King and Dee. Indeed. Good mug. Um, do I have a high IQ mug in here? I don't. I don't. I did. I did. Uh, gifted 10 memos. Wow. Banger. I've got a couple of guest lined up. I'm not sure when they're going to come on, but they'll be fun. They'll be fun. Uh, let me show number one from Barryville. Christy's King indeed. I don't know where Barryville is, but I'm sure it's beautiful. Imagine judge graphs slowly realizing his case involves a multi agency cover up. I feel bad for the guy. Yeah, me too. That genuinely feel bad for that. That would be, that would be tough. Uh, Owen's Coleman 2028. That is all. Well, I would do that. I wouldn't mind being vice president. I don't want to be president because I have to be a tyrannical dictator if I'm going to have power. I can't, I can't do this negotiating with the Senate business. I just got to take over. Um, I might have to send in the military, arrest them all and then just rule with an iron fist and it's going to be bumpy. It's going to be a rough few years. But when we come out of it, you guys will be so thankful. It'll be austere for a few years. But when we get out of it, you guys will have, wow. They'll be putting statues up in the up. I'm not kidding. No interest in me in president. Uh, my B, we missed you. I missed you. I missed you. Uh, danksters reporting for jury duty. I was watching, uh, the gangster right before I went on. I had him on in the background on that monitor there. Uh, and I saw him jump off right before I went on. Uh, Buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, buh, because it helped me. Did you see Val and Jesse in Baze, where the year might have been a second shooter arrested and released with APPU? Very interesting, if true. Love you. Presses can go back. Again, I covered that months ago. I think I covered it twice, I think I covered it like in October and then covered it again in a couple of months ago. What up my B? Hope you got to see more than the Northeast industrial part of New Jersey. The rest is what we call the Garden State, including Hamilton, New Jersey, Blueberry, Capital of the World. Thanks for all you do. I saw the little town, Julian, and it's just lovely. I mean, it's truly lovely. I told him, it's like going to New York without the noise and the smell. It was great. Nice little view of the city, but I don't have to be in it. Closes I want to be. I love you, New Yorkers. I genuinely do. I think you guys are great. I don't see how you do it, but you guys probably wouldn't want to live where I live. Too much greenery, too many trees, too many rolling hills, too many friendly people. People out in their driveways picking up the newspapers saying, "Had he, neighbor?" I couldn't handle all that niceness. You guys are used to the hustle and bustle of the big apple. Hey, man. Love you in your show. Can you wish a, a maw, a very happy 64th birthday beneath the waters and on all four pillars? Christ is King Indeed and God bless. Yeah. happy birthday. I don't know what the rest of that means. But happy birthday indeed. Being high, please pray for Okanogen city in Spokane, Washington. All right. Do we know that? Do we know that? We'll do. We'll do. Love you, Boba Baron. I love you more, Adrian. And all honestly, when we find out the department's countries or the who's that plan CK who will sue, bring the charges who will hold them accountable, what's the legal truth and ability? Bryce's king indeed. I don't know. I guess it depends on who they are. Depends on if we ever get an admission or some kind of bulletproof evidence that can't be denied. I go back to who killed Charlie, I mean who killed JFK? Who killed Robert F. Kennedy? Who killed Martin Luther King? Who killed Malcolm X? Who's who frankly who really shot Ronald Reagan? Watch Tucker's latest interview with Elizabeth Lane. She exposes Gary from Paranoid Tactical and how the feds bottom off crisis king. I have watched it. Obviously, don't have the ability to fact check it all in real time. I know Gary has denied a lot of what she said. So, but I, you know, it was very interesting episode, very interesting episode. Hey, my, my, my B been following loosely a while, but going max post hearings, Esquire, Inola, old all pleadings and now doing some cool stuff in West law co-counsel. Hey, if I could, if you ever could use access to such a database to run inquiry, I mean, we'll do it Kyle Sepulveda or I guess in California, they call that Sepulveda. I'm not sure which way you pronounce it. Good, sir. I think all the pleadings are available for free. I hope you didn't pay for them. I think Andrea Burkhart has them all for free. I've never heard of West law co-counsel AI. I, I'm going to use West law years years years. Meatloaf colored hoodies, my personal favorite. It's not meatloaf. It's prime rib or bean paste. We're going to keep it clean. It's one of those two. Why did the tomato turtarets saw the salad dressing? Yeah, we heard that. Someone gave that joke a couple of shows ago. Love Julian Baron, talk about a high IQ. Perhaps the other guest was the blonde haired young attorney that attacks Candace. I don't even know who that is. Who's the blonde haired young attorney to the text. Candace. I don't know who that is. I don't know. It was not. No one fan from Northern Arizona. Grateful for you and your podcast. Keep on keeping on. Christ is King always. Northern Arizona. Around the page area perhaps. Thank you for all your honesty and hard work. Christ is King. I pray for, I pray God blesses you and your family and you as well. You as well. I went to UVU yesterday. There are 14 cameras around the bus stop. We should know everything about who's backpack was left there, tragic in person. Now that's interesting. That's a really good question. Why do we not know? Why have we not seen that? Why is there a question? Again, if you want us to buy your Fed Slop, show us the answer to our question. mentioned to my hubby that I wanted the bull butter hat. Next thing I know he sends me a screenshot showing it's ordered in on the way. Don't settle ladies ladies. Your man owes you a bull butter hat. That's what I learned tonight. If you want to be a good husband, you got to buy a bull butter hat. X spaces equals destructive destruction and confusion. I'm almost over him. Honestly, I'm about done listening to him. There have been some good ones along the way, but the host has to be extremely disciplined. And to the extent a host is trying to make friends and not have a good conversation, it's going to be a disaster. Because the people can't help themselves. They're just terrible. I've never heard of Elizabeth Lane till she was recently on Tucker Carlson's show. She's doing a great job. She's been around a while. She's doing a good job. I've watched more investigating in one episode than of the first 48 than all of Charlie's case. Okay, Roger, Roger. King Baron. I just paused the JD interview. It's strange. I was so proud. Like proud of my friend. You shared so much with us since the end of September of 25 and you're that you're such a huge part of my life. Thanks for everything. God bless you. Oh, Anna. You're a huge part of my life. Thank you. I'm interested to watch it. I actually have a copy of it on a disc. It's right here. But I don't like watching myself. I thought about plugging in and watching. I should just subscribe to his Patreon. That would be easier. Great to see you on Julian Dory. Does a judge get to see the discovery that is shared between prosecution and defense? No, not always. I'm going to get intellectually honest, philosophically consistent on a hat. Uh, Nurse Casey. Nurse Casey, you're being beckoned. She probably can arrange that. Daisy's a mean hat maker as well. Uh, Hail Baron. I've been hailed like a cab. I'm going to pull over. You keep mentioning magically gathering as a video game. It's actually a trading card game, not a video game. Hello, just an FYI. I knew that. I didn't mean to refer to it as a video game. I apologize if I did. It didn't mean to offend anyone. All the magic thing. I don't. Do I have a big contingency of magic, the gathering fans? I asked that on a membership. How many of you play magic, the gathering? Not have played, play, like actively. Not right to second. But I mean, you know, like you could see yourself playing again in the next three months. I'm going to ask that. Mubby, please wish a happy birthday to my daughter, Sarah and daughter Charlie. What's in case I, I, uh, oh, I tried, Christy's King. Indeed. Go max. Happy birthday, Sarah and Charlie. It's either a strange coincidence that you were born on the same day and you're different ages or going out on a limb to call them twins, all twins. I loved you and Julian. I joined today to listen. Oh, great. I'm going to send him this message and say, hey, hey, should I be back? Uh, you guys are great together. Julian's accent reminds me of home. Excellent. Convo looking forward to the next one. Keep going max. Increase. Oh, I'm in career. I forgot. My name's increased. Christy's King. Indeed. Um, yeah, his accent. Trish me out. It really does. I've, I've, I'm, that's not, I don't hear that a lot around here. Uh, man, he's such a decent guy. He's just so easy to talk to. Maren, any proof of TR, even Google campus maps? Oh, I don't know. I don't know what they have. Also, the scanner said, gun found near low C. Why not near computer science building, which is closer. I don't know. I have no idea. Uh, man, I'm 15 days post a spinal fusion. And so happy to be happy to finally be back alive. I cut up on all your episodes and Candice, Christy King, keep me in your prayers. I will. I will. Uh, bar. Caper out cova. That is your real name. I don't even know what pronounced it correctly. Um, happy to you. Happy your back. I don't know if you're back on your feet yet, but happy your back at action. Post prayer, check in. My mom who's in the hospital with her liver liver and kidney failure. The alcoholism is home in 25 days sober. Oh, that's wonderful news. Also, my husband works in front office for MLB team and said, you can shadow anytime. That would be awesome. Love major league. Big fan, big fan. Uh, it's going to be public soon. Don't worry, everybody. Oh, he's checking in. Oh, no, no, no, make them pay me. No, I'm kidding. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Okay. Oh, I feel so humbled that he's watching. I feel so humbled. Uh, Aloha, man. Thank you for all your hard work. I know you deal with a lot of pains in the body to bring truth. Thank you, pains in the body. I mean, not a lot. Let me get around. All right. Uh, have you seen Valhalla VFT, Elizabeth Lane's video on location of the shot? What evidence is impossible to place these shooters? Yeah, I talked about this. Um, I talked about this last time. I disagreed with their conclusion. Uh, I think, uh, I think the evidence showed him, I think the video showed him the right spot. Uh, and if you watch the rest of that episode, trigger smart comes in and I think settles it. I did my own blind water taste test using ice mountain goat water, Fiji and Saratoga. Fiji won for me. Well, everybody has their own opinion. Everybody has their own opinion. I like Fiji just fine. I drank one yesterday. Uh, thoughts on JD T O E K T P O S A links equal next Trojan horse. I'm a huge supporter of Joe Kent. But he seems to back JD. I don't know who to trust him. Um, I think that's too big for one question. My, my general thoughts are that I think the technological revolution needs to be kept in check and does not need to get out of hand into the extent, uh, Peter Teal may be involved in that technological revolution. I hope his friends, if they get elected, don't let their friendship take priority to us. That's my thought. I find it interesting. Downright fascinating that people trust Julian Dory. I'm sure he's good at what he does. And it sounds like he was very experienced, But um, yeah. what's wrong with him? I mean, that seems like a little drive by shooting. You should, you should state your claim. If you think he's not trustworthy, tell us why. That's why I find him trustworthy. Can we see the buses ushering people from temperatures hospital on your satellite imagery? Thanks for keeping up the good fight. Be I looked. I saw no buses, but I don't know what time the buses came and what exact time the pictures I went back and lost all your shows. Can we google trends more people now? I do it all the time. I just don't do shows on it. PS heard you like Bach. Have you ever heard switched on Bach? Love your show. No, I've never heard that. That sounds scary. That sounds terrifying, frankly. Switched on Bach? Like beaten with a switch? Insults are low IQ, indeed. I've been going through bearing withdrawals from my vacay at a gorgeous crystal clear lake with sand beaches and no cell Wi-Fi. Happy to be back. I said, "King, you need. I'm happy to have you back. Stephanie Kennedy, 5591." I was not my same without you. So glad you did Julian. He and Sean Orion and your humble host are my top three. Really? That's high praise indeed. Those are some big people there, not like fat, but like big personalities. They dropped a sneak peak of you and they medical examiner in the kitchen chatting. Yeah, I just pulled it up. I didn't mean to see it. They didn't need it. Is it Joseph Scott Morgan? If so, I can't wait. This will be a truly high IQ conversation. I think so. He's a smart guy. I mean, the guy knows his stuff. There's no doubt about that. No doubt about that. We did not agree on everything. Believe it or not. Happy Sunday VP. Just watched Lauren the Mortician trying to debunk you. Uwe. God bless your favorite Californian dropping the humble county. Hello, well, Chris, she's getting. Go Max. I watched her. I watched her show. I don't think she. She debunked me as much as just, you know, had, frankly, more expertise than I have on the preparation of a body timeline. I have since learned more things about the case than I knew when I had that conversation that she clipped from or that show that she clipped from. And so, you know, I thought about trying to bring her in on maybe a member show and having a conversation about it, but I don't usually do that on member shows like have conversations about Charlie Kirk case. We usually branch out on those. And so I don't know how I'm going to handle it. But I think honestly, maybe she needs to wait. I feel bad for her timing because if she waits for the Joseph Scott Morgan conversation to drop, there's a lot more information in there than she was able to evaluate. Join Julian's Patreon to watch our humble host early and was not disappointed. Very high. Sighted for the conversation this week, I bless you. Oh, man, you're in for a treat. If I do say so myself. How the amazing Baron, it's been too long. Lauren here, your biggest fan from Sarasota, Florida. What happens with all the information we know when if Tyler's released Found Not Guilty? How does this end? Well, I don't know. I mean, O.J. Simpson was Found Not Guilty and they stopped. Casey Anthony was Found Not Guilty and they stopped. Those might be bad examples. But you know, it's hard for a prosecution to say we tried to put somebody to death. And then now we're going a different direction and we're going to put someone else to death. I mean, it was a lot of credibility. Think about the next guy they charged. They'll be like, you obviously thought someone else did it. Like, it's the ultimate defense. You've already prosecuted somebody for this. You thought they did it. Now you're saying I did it. Come on. Tough on a prosecution when you lose. Baron, you did a great job on Julian Dory. So proud. I'll maximum. Thank you. Thank you. Rosie. Very kind of. If TR-8 at the smokehouse wouldn't have to be a flock camera that caught up in his car, I would think so. Started watching after I saw you on Candace and I'm so grateful for your time and sacrifice, praying for you and your family. Go Max. Crisis King of D. Thank you. I hear this video of you testing the crawl in your front yard. Go Max. Crisis King of D. Yeah, anything that happens in my front yard is going to camera. No doubt it exists, but we're not going to watch it. I just want to say thank you for all you do, might be. And Daisy, I simply stated, can I have one thing just to be here? May God continue to bless and watch over you. Your family and this high IQ outfit. Crisis King of D. Thank you. Thank you. And you're getting your one thing. Lauren the Mortician YouTube channel directly refuting your autopsy theory. She said you got it wrong, buddy. Yeah, again, I'm not I'm not going to address that anymore. If I see someone else talk about it, well, I'll just defer because this is the last time I'm going to explain it. That was my first run at the autopsy timeline. If you watch my conversation with Joseph Scott Morgan, it's going to be far more in depth with way more detail. And it will establish a lot of things that just were not discussed in that previous video, uh, opposite awesome episode with you and Julian. So glad you went in person very high IQ. Bravo. Crisis King indeed. I don't think he interviews people not in person, does he? I don't think he does. According to you, the principal gets you shadow band on X. They hide posts and make your profile non searchable, but oh, hold on. Hold on. What are we hit? Uh, but they still charge you. Uh, first, it's crazy censorship. Second, it's fraud. Go max. What makes you think that? Now, I always hear people saying they're shadow band, but I mean, to me, before you can make a claim, you gotta have some sort of evidence. Uh, Baron Lovey show. Did you notice that the security crew all have these same style of shoes? There's a special electrical shoe. I think they head on. We've looked at that several times. Uh, they all had some shoe with some sort of white bottom, but they are different brands of shoes. Baron, did you catch Candace suggesting you reach out to George for an interview? I did. I did. And I will. I will. Uh, might want to lock that in before baby five. What was the OG hoodie color for tonight? Asking for a friend. It was dark gray. Dark gray. And it got goat watered. And I didn't want to do a whole show, uh, with, with water drops going all down my chest. You know, I tell people I used to have a drinking problem. Apparently I still do. I didn't even drink in water is a problem. But yeah, it was, it was dark gray. And it got toasted like one minute before I hit the live button. Uh, Baron just wanted to send love from Lake Charles Louisiana. My husband and I are also Catholic. Well, I've been my whole life. He's starting his classes to convert. I'm also a 52 day sober. Christ is King of the, you guys sound like you're getting a whole life in order. Thank you. Thanks for sharing that. That's a wonderful story. I can't thank you enough for all your hard work and dedication. This whole case is unfortunately confirmed on my fears. Press for protection of peace for you in the fam. Thank you. I appreciate it. Uh, but but bear on. Congrats on your amazing interview with Julian Doer. He's amazing. Double high cue for all. Thank you. Uh, yeah, I don't, I've not met too many people that don't, don't, I think, very highly of them. You know, I called around a lot of people, uh, as I've done with other, uh, invites I've had. Saying, you know, is this, what do you think about doing the show? Not that I don't make my own decisions, but I like information. More information is better than less information. Um, every single person I talk to, um, in the podcasting realm, just people who view a lot of podcasts, every single one of them said, man, he's great. Like, yeah, how can you turn that down? Not that I would turn down, but, uh, you know, you just, I can't know everything there is to know about somebody. And when you agree to go on someone's show, you know, you're, you're kind of committing to their brand. And I, you know, just want to hear what other people thought. Um, my initial inclination was, I was extremely flattered to be asked and, uh, definitely wanted to do it, but, uh, you know, do my homework. Uh, heck of a chat you have a Julian B, watch it this afternoon, the sacrifice you made of making the RBP your full-time job is not lost on us. God is using you in so many ways. B, thank you for all you do. I just indeed. Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I'm going to have to watch it tonight. I was, I was going to wait. I was actually just going to like scope, which is just watch little segments of it just to see how it looked and all that. But I'm going to go watch it. I'm going to go watch it. I'm going to watch it. Barely, at least you didn't adjust yourself on camera. What does that mean? Adjust my self? You mean this number? I did it. They probably just cut it out. They, he's got a producer there full-time. He's in real time, hitting the switchers. He probably saw me do this and was like, get off camera too. Get over to camera three. Get over to camera four. He got like nine cameras in there. That's crazy. Crazy. I told my dad, I think it was an exploding mic. Showed him the evidence and he said, my generation is watching crazy stuff. And I'm blanked up. Shaking my head. Well, at least he wears his heart on his sleeve, right? He doesn't hide things from you. I mean, it's so frustrating that for everyone with common sense, there are equally as many people who believe all the sloppy slop, respectfully, crisis can you do. One of the problems with being high IQ is, that's a minority position. By definition. It's a bell curve guys, you've got a few people over here that are just borderline functional, you got a few people over here who are in rare air like, you know, top of the top of the chain. Then you have in the middle, you have a whole bunch of people are just pretty average, but with your IQ, even average people feel kind of hard to talk to. I had to talk to a high be interesting summary of COVID last episode in August 2019. My now husband was incredibly sick. We're based in Brisbane, Australia, we always joke that he might have been patient zero. Maybe not. No, I'm sure he had that flu. That flu was going around the world and crushing people crushing people. Deleted ex account to toxic feels gross when I'm on it down to YouTube Spotify and one subscription. Your humble house. Thank you. Thank you. But there's the only way through this crisis. Can you do. Thank you. Shell bill. Very kind of you. Maybe you can do an opening on the great carry mollus seems like he died in the midst of that bird flu. You mentioned conveniently so, thought she's nemesis actually new carry mollus. I talked to carry mollus about HIV several times. About his invention of PCR. I mean, I didn't know I'm like a buddy. We weren't like pals, but we talk. Brilliant human being. Very cynical human being. I think there's a level of cynicism that comes with a brilliance of his of his capacity. The guy. You know, some people they say they receive knowledge, rather than invent something like Tesla used to say he received his knowledge like it was coming from somewhere else and being poured into his brain. The carry mollus of story about inventing PCR is very much like that. Like he's driving through the desert on his way to Las Vegas or Los Angeles came where he was headed. You go on one way or the other on that road. And he basically received PCR and pulled over on the side of the road and like wrote it down on a napkin or something back of an envelope. And then it worked. It worked. Wilds. Maybe I will do. I'm out to hop off. I wanted to let everyone know that I now have a functioning AC. I'd like to. She's pulled ladies and gentlemen. I'd like to thank everyone for their support. I'm going to go bask in the glory of that. Sitting front of the register. Yeah, I'll be cooling off your very shortly. Yeah. Make a little palette, fix the register and put like a piece of paper up so it all blows right on you. Yeah. No one else needs to just me. Yeah. Yeah. Hide it. Hide it. All right. Yeah. Her. Her. Her air has been out. It's been like 120 degrees where she lives. Terrible story. Terrible. Terrible. Hi, King B. Yes, Baron has legs. The I've heard three. I've heard. Oh, whoa. You can't say that. You can't say B. Hubby. Sober 55 days. So proud of him. We've all. I've watched all your episodes since Candace introduced you to me. But for the love of bleep. I can't remember who might currently Kirk. Please help. Fill up Goldsbury, Jr. This isn't it. Goldsbury, Jr. Tina Maples. When you have your road mic on, does it pull down? A little. I got to find that a magnet when I was demonstrating it flopped off. But yeah, I mean, a little, a little, not like all the way down, but you can you can feel it there for sure. Thanks for the info. I thought a whooby was the tear to your stain, Teddy Blake, and F couple cuddles while crying himself to sleep. It might be. It might be there might be more than one version. Okay, Jr. ran the last election as an independent. They keep him off debate stages and he joined Trump and dropped his campaign. I voted Trump for Maha. Okay, Julie noted. And I worked on Ross Perot's campaign. My boss at the time, a 70 year old Jewish gentleman encouraged me to join him and promoting pro. That was my intro to politics. I really didn't think too much about it before that. That's time to be alive. Ross Perot ran a legendary campaign. This is a ball from the Ross Perot campaign. A little styrofoam ball. It was a Cohen films, Cohen film films. One of our listeners sent me that. Yeah. Excited for the interview this week. Thanks for the continued coverage of this investigation. Can I get a special shout out to my wife Christina? The four pregnant with our fifth. The prego. I'm feeling like this, frankly. Is George. Farmer writing in talking about Candace. Mama, four pregnant with our fifth. The prego. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna play along and act like it's Christina. Shout out, Christina. Your secret safe with me, George. I'm confident. I'm confident. You will talk to JSM and praise him and I agree that he's great. The Fed sloppers would never admit the other side has anything positive go King B. That's because they're dishonest. Because they're dishonest. No one else to say about it. Tucker and Candace ballot. That would be a good ballot. Hey, Baron, I'm all for third party. But even if we do end up with a viable option, won't the Dems and reps be able to rig everything in their favor. The unit party system is undefeated. Well, there's that. That's a black build cynicism that not everybody shares, but there is that. In relation to the transfer patients from tip and August to university hospital, they must have then informed the paramedics throughout only the university hospital. Imagine a number of people with knowledge of these events. Okay. I like your show. I like your comment. Skate Betty. I refuse to believe in any politician ever again. I don't give a blip who they run. I expect more the same. We're an occupied nation and we deserve the photo. I mean, it's hard to argue with that. But I met. Wow. Wow. They're not working on running for office in this system. Hopefully they're working on organizing large scale descent and civil disobedience. Okay. Tina Maple, please explain that your city county state elections are just as important as the presidential. If people looked to their state as their government change would happen quicker. The problem is the same, the same uniparty slop exists at the state level. That's the problem. The system exists to perpetuate the system. And it's tough. It's a tough pill. This wallow, but it's true. Been a long time since I was able to catch a live, usually listening to the next day at work. Number one fan from Huntington, Indiana. Where's Huntington? Huntington. Is it ton or done? Huntington, Indiana. Oh, not Huntington Ingalls. Huntington, Indiana. Oh, Huntington is. Oh, it's way up there by Fort Wayne. That's way up there. Thanks for catching it. Hi, Mr. B. Ben or I'm worried. This is like Kyle Rittenhouse trial. Prosecution gave defense compressed low resolution video and hid high resolution. Though that would have helped Kyle Rittenhouse until trial closed. Jury ruled not guilty. So this was largely unnoticed. I did not know that happened. That's how I noticed it. That's the way to weaken the government is by relying on them less. Grow your own food. Start small and control your own community as that's against them. Yeah, I had a good conversation with somebody the other day about ways to get off the system without too fundamental. You know, if you if you tell someone to grow their own food. A lot of people can check out. Yeah. But if you give them something small that they can do. And then once they get that thing under the belt, they give them something else small to do. And they start stacking up those little small victories against the system. I think that's how you effect weight large scale change. I just get a community of people say we're going to do this. We're going to do this. Whatever this is we're going to do this. You could affect some change. If Tucker Joe Thomas and MTG started third party, we're all in. It would be tough to be opposed to it. Looks like General Fendt. General Flynn has just joined the Massey Coalition. If you watch their speeches in Iowa today, it definitely sounds like they're serious. Do we know that I cannot appreciate you more, Ben? Oh, I can't appreciate you more question. Everything three to one. Sounds like there should be a lift off or something at the end of that. Thank you for the big picture perspectives. People comment in three to four hours. That three to four hours is a time challenge, but to me it's time I'll spend. Raise Lake, Illinois. Thank you, Daisy Christ is King indeed, indeed. I can't believe you were in Jersey and didn't tell me. Oh, Adriana. I didn't even tell my mom. I would have driven down two hours to take you and Julian out the lunch. Just started following him looking forward to seeing the podcast. If I ever go back, I'll let you know. Yeah, I didn't, I didn't tell anybody. I told really one person outside of my immediate home. I told nurse Casey. I don't think Daisy knew I went. I didn't tell anybody that that was a. Get there and get back before we talk about it. A secret out there in our humble host has legs, Kristen. Kristen, I do have legs. I do have legs. That answers the question. for Owen Benjamin? Oh, you know what? I need to do that. Hold please, I gotta put up a tweet. (laughs) Because Owen Benjamin said he thought I might have octopus legs. And I'm gonna prove that I don't have octopus legs. Watch this. Quote, here is proof to Owen Benjamin that I don't have octopus legs. There we go. Done. (laughs) That's funny, that's funny. When, with combining military with, do you think they will try to take away our guns? With combining military with what? Don't even know what that means. I wish I did, names. I'm starting to hear rumblings everywhere. People saying that we need to organize and take our country back. We all have my attention. It's time to stand up for something before we don't have any rights left. It's time, it's time. Thank you for spending precious time away for your family to collab with JD, his integrity and content. It's time not shh, true. Too truly high class outfits coming together is a blessing for all. Here's how accommodating he is. He wanted to do two shows, two long shows. He was able to arrange his schedule so that I would fly out on Friday morning and fly back Saturday night. Like that's dedication there. And keep in mind, he recorded his show, his normal show after our show. That's dedication. It would've been real easy for him to say, I can't do that. Can you come in on Thursday? I gotta do my show Friday. Then I'll do your second show Saturday. But he didn't do that. He rearranged his schedule. It's a very accommodating guy. Very accommodating guy. It's so happy to be celebrating my birthday this evening with Baron and the jury. Happy birthday, Grady D. I'm four months older than you be. I also can't wait to see you and Joseph Scott Morgan. Gonna be a great conversation. I think so. I'm very excited for that to come out. Very excited for that to come out. So I had, oh, sorry, I just read that. Two things, have a look up video battle button ready. I've seen it. Jakey Canis is a Lego, also diligent Denizen, talking to woman who is there after. I've seen that as well. Thank you. Bringing my husband of 21 years home on hospice tomorrow. I'm so grateful for this community to help get through these hard times. Gosh, I'm sorry to hear that. I will say the, you know, my, I've seen two patients up close and personal on hospice over the last couple of years. And in both instances, I was thankful for the help. Both, they did a good job. I'm sorry to hear about that though. Baron, I'm 63 and I refuse to be lied to again. So discouraged. I can't place blame. I can't place blame be in or any other. My government turned on us in America. I love my country and won't vote again for her fall. I've heard, I've heard people say that. That they're just so sick of it, they're done. I heard a 911 call of everyone ran to the parking lot, but no videos of that. So strange, especially when see people scrolling by shooter. Yeah, I mean, it's hard to tell in a 911 situation, emergency people running everywhere. What people say just came in from watching first Patreon episode would you win? It was great. I feel like I learned even more about you from that episode, keep going max. Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. Appreciate that. Why are so many people looking for stuff on the ground? I think because they assume there was a gun shot and they thought it might have come from up close. To me, if I'm the defense, that's evidence that it didn't go from the Losi center. It looks like they're simply cleaning up after an assembly. Everyone's just milling around the emergency, not like anything horrific just happened. Correct. Correct. OMG, you're the best. Y'all hit that like, like for our Baron. I'll thank you. You're the best, Renda. I'm on the second bit. A, my B, a super fan and a first super chat. Dan Panjaina. Also set an interview. The first few days, the FBI arrived in 16 minutes. God bless you and all who see this. Go max. Indeed, thank you. Thank you. There should be 50 cops in detectives there at that point. Get nothing. I know. That was my point. But Baron, my beautiful T-shirt a couple of days ago. Got my beautiful T-shirt a couple of days ago. So proud to show off that I'm part of the high queue outfit. And number one fan from Ithaca, Michigan. Ithaca, Michigan. It's neft up at crime scene, IMO. We need Mikey. Maybe he just had to share humbly from today. Father talked about first part of gospel Jesus show humanity when John the Baptist died. He did what normal human would do. Disappeared of mourn and pray for his beloved friend. Well, that's beautiful. That's beautiful. Normal person. Also, I fully believe that he took the SD card so that no one would see what Charlie security was really doing after the bang. Well, not doing. That could be any number of reasons. And when we don't know that he only took the SD card. And hardly stomach watching the crime scene videos. How in the world could these people that loved him walk through there right after and move the chair and forward listening to show later. Right now, I'm waiting to be a grandma. Whereas for our daughter Alyssa and granddaughter miss Everly May. Right, it's just King indeed. Linda Bell. Congratulations. Welcome to the club. Welcome to the club. I'm not a grandma, I'm a granddad. Concerning chief of police looks like he may have been attempting to use the mic to make some sort of announcement. Oh, well, maybe just yell. Cup your hands. Don't grab evidence. Finally, did a show about this. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. I don't know how anyone thinks there is nothing wrong with this. No, there's something wrong with it. I didn't know who Charlie was on 910 search and Insta brought up a video posted that morning recorded by EK of CK together. UVU removed later that day. I don't believe that. I know I just I don't know what you saw. But I don't believe she was there. Hi, Baron. It's almost like they wanted the crime scene contaminated. I sure hope the defense questions the police regarding their negligence. Oh, I would hope so. I imagine you'll see that. Be please look on top of white hall of flags building at CK approximately a clock figures there until after bang. Watch 60 X. Please look at this. Someone was up there. Look like a vent disappeared after bang. I think I know what you're talking about. You didn't include a time with your o'clock there, but I think I know what you're talking. But that's not the hall of flag building. The Sorenson was to his left and there was another building to his right that were white. The hall of flags is behind them and that's not not consistent with what you were describing. They were negligent because they didn't believe they were ever going to court. They were on a live Robinson. Yeah. Yeah. Kind of my point. Bear in you are the Prince of podcasts. Seriously, nobody else can touch the show. Your fire, sir, keep up the phenomenal work. Thank you. I appreciate that. It's very kind. Very kind. Wow. Look at this. Robbie yeetman. Wow. Thank you. Thank you. Very kind. Prior to moment, B.H. Addressed small item for quick access, then holds fingers like he's preparing. And Sean Ryan, Brian Harpal says, I shoved my hand into the hole five seconds. I had my hands in him. I've seen guys stick things into kids. If fragment is from what report says, could this explain a lot? Oh, yeah. It could. No, thank you for that. Could the camera be the weapon? Well, I don't know about the weapon, but you know, if we don't know the cause, we don't know the how. I think the camera has to be considered as potentially part of it. I'm not saying we make a declaration, but it's considered, and we can't consider it because he took it down and took it, took things away from it. We have no idea what was on that camera. It's a team who crime scene. We need Mikey to flip. Mikey. Mikey. Is it me? Is cop and blue shirt guarding Terrell Farnsworth just saying that kind of look like it. A day to remember. This was the moment Baron ignited the third party engine and amplified its reach and influence, like oil and a well tuned machine. You are so talented. It's unreal. Ed from Amsterdam. Well, thank you. Ed from Amsterdam. Move to America and become a citizen. You can vote with us. Thank you. May my grandbabies here. She's amazing. Well, that didn't take long. Oh, no, you're a different person. I was like, wow, you were waiting for like four minutes. Well, congratulations. Congratulations. I'm sure she is amazing. Audio equipment has been removed from scene within minutes. How do they do that so quickly? No one knows where shooter even is, but hey, let's pack it up. Yes. Correct. That's the problem. Karen Reed Desert Edition. Yeah. Possibly possibly. In regards to the crime scene, it says if they were given orders ahead of time, what to not do. Oh. Yeah. Maybe. Maybe Keystone cops disgraceful. Why his farms were so calm. So guilty. I don't want to declare him guilty. That's your opinion. Uh-uh. Mikey was the only one with actual emotion. AK was spot on when he said the process of their guilt. Well, he's going to claim that was a slip slip at the top three minutes after shot. But there are people who decide to stick around with baby and baby care. You're not knowing if the area is safe. Seems odd. Are we sure there's even a baby in there? baby, hidden baby trick, and maybe the backpack is at the quick, quick, perhaps, perhaps. What do you think the odds are of them offerings in a deal to give that information he has or what involvement? Zero percent ever. Never. I'm surprised. So many people were hanging around after an active shooter event on the college campus. No run height fight at UVU. Now people just milling about right in the line of fire. CKK's is what made me lose respect for JSM. I used to love him. I can express the level of disappointment I felt after seeing him in Julian Dory. I hope you're given another chance later this week, because I think I think you'll see him in a different light. American comeback tour banters are covered in lightning bolt picks. Was it the electrocution tour? Could be. Sound system was off by time cop check mic who turned it off, exploding mic blue the sound system. That's a good question. Who turned it off? This is why we do Q&A. Is a really good question. Looking forward to your conversation with Julian Dory and guest out of the tragedy of CK emerged the silver lining of brilliant minds yourself included. May your guardian angels continue to protect you and your family. Thank you. Appreciate it. Hey, bear in this. My first super. Hopefully you read this on your show. My sister watches and I just wanted to give her a shout out. Her name is Jade. Hey, Jade. Thanks for the super. Did they just sit in the car on some random road for 25 minutes? Oh, I see where you went there. I see what you did. He didn't know where he went. They had 50 minutes to get their story straight or debrief perhaps. I don't know. I don't just guessing. Just guessing. Mike, he was not covered in blood as dad said. That's correct. They took the SUV to quick, quick. They could have. I didn't think about that. That time to get there. I noticed a lightning strike on the UVU tent. I tried to find this on past tense but didn't see it. Quite the coincidence of electrocution was involved. It was on a few tents before maybe four or five. I'm guessing just a ballpark figure. What about the person who alleged that Mikey showed up at the physician entrance and picked someone up? They, they're earlier than 50 minutes, but in the parking lot waiting for everyone to arrive. Oh, I don't know. Good question. That's something to contend with. State cannot or has not ruled out that those closest Charlie didn't hire someone to kill him, including TR. Mountain of unknowns and reasonable doubt. Keep questioning everything except Christ's king. Oh, yeah, they haven't ruled out anything that I'm aware of. Irrepressible Boba Barrow. Christ's king indeed. In February 2020, I went to the dock with flu symptoms with tested negative for flu. Doc was baffled. Since the blood sample to CDC thought it was early COVID, but I got COVID later that year. I bet I know what you had. FBI four miles away from UVU 88 West 100 North. Number 200 Provo. Let's look at it. 88 West 100 North Provo Utah. Do you see what I see a federal building? Oh, interesting. It's a pretty building. UVU is pretty. I mean, of the Utah's pretty. What's in there? Social security administrations in there. Let's see what else is in here. I don't see the FBI in there. It's the social security in there. Let's let's look at with FBI. Maybe that'll fill it. A federal Bureau of investigation located in the vibrant city of Provo, Utah. Vibrant. Fascinating. There's no quivering lip from Mikey. No, he didn't quiver for long. The short term quiver. I left you episode with Julian. Y'all were great together. It was nice to learn more about you. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I don't know. I got to go back and watch it. What the hell did I say about myself? What did I say? What did I say? Utah attorney spoke about something called a motion to quash? Could you explain what that means in regard to Tyler Robinson, Provo cause trial? Yeah. Quash just means you're trying to extinguish something. You're trying to stop something. So they would be filing a motion to stop something. Shout out to my husband and daughter for letting me watch, blah, blah, blah, bear on all day between the Julian Dory episode in this live. It was church in the morning, then bear in since then. You've got the greatest husband and daughter of all time. I mean, outside of this house, but they sound amazing. It's amazing. Two nonchalant from my comfort. Sad all around. Agreed. Agreed. If the Mauser don't fit the trousers that a Mauser in your trouser. I'm going to start asking everybody. You got a Mauser in your trouser. Why are they trousers, Polaro? You just have one trouser. Trouser singular. The word trousers is a plural only noun. Does not have a standard singular form for a single item. So refer to a single item. You use a pair of trousers. Well, that's foolishness because there's only one trouser. I'm not wearing two trouser. I'm not wearing a pair. I only have one trouser. I'm going to coin it. Is there a Mauser in your trouser? Hey, bear in grateful for your amazing work and commitment to truth. Everyone involved seems prepared for this occasion. As if they're on a mission. Jesus loves you. Yes, we're on a mission. On a mission. Wishing. Do you think long picked up and checked the mic because he was worried about their tag, their team tag up there that could have been recorded? Maybe, maybe look closely. The item aside, the bloody shirt in the SUV. That is an in-sego my-fi router. It explains heart pulls, dropping his phone BS and needing to use someone else's in the ER. It just cures the superior call to everything else. I don't recall seeing that in sego my-fi router. I didn't see one of those. I don't know. I don't know if that's accurate. I have to look that up. Thank you. Some of you said people hire up. No, it's going on and I've given hope. Those responsible won't get away with it. Is this still true? That faith the system will work in Charlie's favor, but it's scary. I don't know. I don't know about that. Maybe the microphone is in that clear case because it's a trophy. I can all use to remember their crime. Maybe your magnet is with the soil they dug up. I hope not. It's supposed to be in here somewhere. I don't know where it went, but I'll find it. It's not messy in here. There's a lot of stuff as different. Have you ever considered a high rocks race? Doing my second soon. Thank you for your wisdom. Stay home mom after getting my MSN needing mental stimulation tips. I've never considered doing one because I don't want to do 100 wild balls at the end of the workout. No, I've never considered one. I know what they are. I hate running. I don't know if you know this. I catastrophically injured my ankle a few years ago. I can still run, but if I run a 5K, it hurts. It's very painful and it's painful for days afterwards. High rocks is 8K. It would be a commitment that I'd have to be willing to hurt doing it and hurt for days afterwards. Doesn't that it doesn't seem bad. I don't understand high rocks. The thing I like about CrossFit is that it's constantly varied functional movement, executed high intensity. High rocks is not constantly varied at all. It's just running in the same 8 movements. Maybe one day. It's a long time domain for me. Hour plus. I don't usually work out for an hour plus. Okay, to be fair, if the shooter has not been apprehended yet, hospitals can be locked down. I work at HVACA facility and I'm sure it's protocol. Almost sure. I believe you. I believe you. B-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b-b. Big head. Baron had to do it. Big head. I don't have a tiny mutant peehead. Love the famine here too. Such a great high IQ outfit. Thank you. Thank you. Baron, what are the best points to start with when talking to someone who is open minded, but hasn't been paying attention? How would you plant a healthy seat of doubt without overwhelming them with all the weird case details? I would ask them why I would start with why do you believe what you believe? And then if they say because the government tells me that X, Y, and Z happened, I would say, well, did Lee Harvey as well to get JFK? Because most people don't believe it. There are a few out there, but most people don't believe it. And I think opens the door to the fact that there potentially can be cover-ups involving lots of people to frame an innocent patsy. And once you get there, once we get agreement that it's at least possible, now let's look at things like, does that wound look right to you? Why did his shirt move that way? Do you see a gun anywhere? How do you know there was a gun up there? Why isn't his DNA all over the roof? Why isn't it in the sweat drop that was at the left? where the guy jumped off. Why were those not his fingerprints? Why couldn't they get fingerprints in the stairwell? Why were his fingerprints the most degraded on the firearm? Just start chipping away, little by little. Get agreement, get agreement, you can admit that it would be weird that his DNA wouldn't be and that's what dropped, right? I don't know. High for motion springs Mississippi thanks for all that you do. High for middle Tennessee, thanks for all you do. The F girl saying we are F on livestream, makes me think they were in on fake and she later learned that he actually died. CK knew as well, I am oh, okay, there's a theory. It's a theory. My B can you zoom in on OF officer bag lead to see if he's wearing a body camera? No, I can't get that close to him. I can't get that close to him. Dear sir, edge. Missed you, business dinner, we'll catch you up. I have questions. Stu says inmates being transferred to TRJL at concerning rate, who are false. Perish continue, two and three, to follow between courses. I don't know, I've not heard Stu say that and I've not seen any evidence of that. I'll be happy to look into it. That's all I know. And who designed the American come back to a sign on Charlie Kirk's tent looks like an electrical charge. I don't know the answer to that. I don't know. So I think Elon would join Tucker and others. I doubt it. I doubt it. But we don't know. And keep in mind that he's a massive government contractor. Bam, bam, bam, bam. In the event of a ritual, any central items used can be a powerful souvenir that can be used in the future for future energy they carry. A.G. Bloody Mike. An infest was part of the ritual. IMO, love you, my B. Now that's terrifying. Great talk with Julian, looking forward to part two, regarding four of seven bullet fragments discussed in preliminary hearing, could the same type of frags be recovered due to modalities rather than gunshot one? Yeah, they could be stuffed in his neck. (laughs) That's how they could be recovered. McCoy and company were coolest cucumbers at the hospital. Cooler than the other side of the pillow. Said the late Stuart Scott. Maybe Mikey's immediate phone call was to Ben Shapiro. (gasps) Maybe. Maybe three-wayed in. You honestly think we'll ever get justice if the people on top are controlling this? I don't know. I don't know. What we can do is try. Ask what transfer even knows what a fax is. (laughs) Thank you, Professor Baron Dazing Crew, for all you do. I've not missed a show since I first saw you on Candace. I'm proud to be a high-acquiem member of the grand jury. Got me some merch on the way. Oh, thank you. Again, someone finished looking into the decoy witnesses who says, Charlie, wish I had the chest. Candace said they had bizarre family history. Maybe, maybe. Gasp. (gasps) With handheld mic caught and amplified sound of exploding road mic, feedback caused the electrocution. That's blowing the sound system. I don't know that sound works that way, but who am I to say? But, but, Baron, can we write them in our ballet? We can create a massive movement without them spending money. Write them in on our ballet. Oh, ballet, ballet. Can we write them in on our ballet? Could it be a massive movement, does it? Yeah, but write-ins are tough phrases. You wanna be on a battle. Man, I work in medical records at a hospital in Baltimore. Records are still fixed. Love you, my B. Stop doing hammer-time dance to watch this. What, when are medical records gonna get out of the stone ages? That's crazy. Crazy. The amount you hate on magic, the gathering hurts my feelings. It's really fun and normal, high-cube people play it too. Not just murderers and low-lifes. Oh, I'm sorry. I just don't know anyone that plays it, so it's an easy target. I won't do it anymore, Saul's. Saul's. I won't do it anymore. That got me in here, brother. I'll be right in here. Wasn't Nancy Guthrie ransom note faxed to TMZ? Allegedly, maybe wrong. Weird, it came after Savannah interview and pushed for justice for J.E. victims. My humble opinion. Yeah, it's weird, did they ever find her? By the way, it's Savannah Guthrie's mom. Did they ever find her? Nope, pleads for answers about missing mom in a new post two days ago. Weird. I've always been a fan of the who done it. So I failed to believe with this many ops, why would so many people oppose investigators? Love you, Christ is King indeed. I failed to believe with this many ops. Why would so many people oppose investigates? I don't know that I know what that means, but okay. Hoping you've hired security, praying for you. Oh, goodness gracious, that's terrifying thought. Can you clarify FTRs, but not guilty? We've been in a new preliminary. If no plea had been entered yet, thank you for clarifying. He is not entered a plea because he has not been bound over to trial. So there's not even been a probable cause of termination. Daisy has a hot boy. Not let her know, I'll let her know. People have told her that on a member show. I held my breath for a second. When Baron put that road, Mike on. Careful brother. Get it away. I hope it's safe. When you think the flash that we see in Kansas video on the roof could be the sun hitting these shooters watch. No, I'm starting to believe the people who say it's a car in the background on that highway because they track that flash from other locations and then it shows up right behind the shooter. But I'm open to anything. One of the reasons you're my favorite podcasters, you don't take money from talent agencies. Julian Dory is represented by WME. Your high Q knows why this is bad. I was just king indeed. Some people don't want to deal with the, I mean, he does add. Some people don't deal with ads. Like I want someone else to deal with all the paperwork and the collections and all that. I don't hold that again. CR was first to table in my humble opinion. Thank you. Okay, noted internal hospital records. Incident report of lockdown and threats. I'm curious about timing on documentation. As measurable evidence says it's not tight tie. Okay, do we know, do we know, please make a t-shirt that says for under $10 you don't have to be stupid. (laughing) Yeah, I did say that, didn't I? Yeah, I said that, I said my B. The door this pod has someone in the medical field. We fax things all the time. It's just through, it is just through emails these days. Chris is King of D. Well, someone else said they still use the old fax machine. Like it's Fred Flintstone out there. If the shooter was in line with Charlie Kirk, you wouldn't see that steeple on the Mormon temple in the distance. It should be at 10 o'clock if he's lined up with Charlie Kirk. Solid on Valhalla, Inc. confirmed on Google Earth. Yeah, but there's two Mormon steeples. And what you're seeing is the smaller of, there's a large one way off to the left and there's a smaller one that would be in that position. Yeah, I think he's in the right spot. We've looked at that. He's in the right spot. Trying something new. Real time kill stream to OGA. Oh, oh yeah, yeah, that could be, that would be new. That would be new. My husband said, if you don't believe the feds lied, compared the video they released the Candace Owens, they intentionally set out pixelated footage. Why? Yeah, it's a good call. They intentionally downgraded, I think. It looks like they intentionally downgraded the quality of the imagery. And I don't know if that's true, but it's what it looks like. Professor got with you because he wanted to rehabilitate his image after the backlash. It was by his views. And he looked amateur. He used your name to float. I'll allow it, I'll allow it. I've been used for far less. There's a Provo FBI field office 10 to 12 minutes out from UVU. I saw someone else try to do school Candace, but double checked it and FBI is in Provo. Okay, fair enough. Do we know that, do we know? Hoso says in one of his vids that he could not see what went on when T.R. jumped over the short wall, but it is presumed he put the rifle together. So even the POS agent walked that back. Lamely, yeah. Lame indeed was T.R. tested for gunshot residue. I don't know. I don't know. They didn't introduce it. I walked into a SWAT exercise at Mountain View Hospital in Utah. I was startled by all the men with long guns surrounding the hospital and parking lot. I was told not to worry. He was just a mock emergency. I would still worry. Utah Valley hospital has gunshots right now. I don't see any evidence of that. And I don't see any evidence of that. Maybe you're talking about something else. You spoke in the present tense. I feel like I might need a seat belt this week. Oh, you're going to need one. Go get bumpy. I'd be running into ER. If my friend Rob McCoy, state of Mike, he was covered in blood, but he walked away, not interact with CK. Close, don't appear blood covered. Close as stolen ER. Keep going max crisis, King and deed. Mike, Rob McCoy has explained his misstatement on it. He said he assumed because everyone else said they were. Take it for what it's worth. Why not run behind that building's top floor? Got to be seen. I don't know why I didn't run down the stairs. Why risk injuring yourself jumping off a roof? This is my shot. I'm going to take it. Heard that before. yeah that's the point uh days he came back on just for me yes Wilson yes Wilson just for you could charlie have been on a timber platform to stop electricity passing through the ground into the people around him is that a thing i don't know it didn't look timber to me with plastic and metal baren saludos this uh they said a part of way no it's not uruguay uh i believe you i believe you but it's down there next to each other and they're commonly confused and the bushes bought a bunch of land in one of them and i don't know which one i don't know which one but thank you thank you for checking it uh one hundred eighty seconds later not one person standing in shock or emotional everyone's just chill certain of safety suddenly versus king and d yeah and just milling about like it's normal Wednesday on uv use campus what day doesn't this happen love you might be in days you stay safe we all need you i'm doing my best here and doing my best here when someone says they fax it to me i'll i say we don't have facts where i live and they say where do you live and i say in twenty twenty six barb i live in twenty twenty six that's funny i'm stealing that i'm stealing i live in twenty twenty twenty twenty six barb we've got everyone barb from now on barb uh your interview was valamon patreon and members only on youtube duly noted duly noted have you seen the podcast where charlie kirk's camera man speaks out thoughts crisis king and d um i've seen some uh do i okay you ask my thoughts i i've actually talked to him on the phone as well so i'm gonna be kind um i'm not sure i i'm not sure what he's what he's bringing to the table um nothing he's not um but you know i'm a undersell over deliver kind of guy and i feel like we're different in that respect happy it was dr morgan with you on julie and dorey bearing crisis king indeed yeah i'm looking forward to seeing the finished product you're an awesome man i'm a nineteen sixty nine baby and fed slots my favorites slang term yet and the doj should be do c u department of cover-ups i've seen i've yet to see true justice say it's been a while a while i believe the ones responsible for this unaliving will be revealed and please quit saying our greatest ally cringe every time people say that thank you for all your hard work christ is a good job christ is king indeed um yeah well we we say it sarcastically or ironically uh representing indiana well sir another great show thank you thank you i do my best i i hate that the whole state is writing on my show i've lived there in a long time uh yo ba ba ba bear on crisis king indeed all dynasties have unsaid codes is giving back money per strings gifts Brian Harpole said or cut war the brand for the bck went outside all the dynasty brand codes he was exposed to i don't know i don't uh what she said 72 post july 21 god's time casing caught my attention jolt theory explained expanded for the consideration we love you my b go max i've actually cited that on here i i'm a big highly over theory um considering it what about the hats that were still left the entrance could one of those incident could one of those be tracked down and tested yeah uh so long time listeners will know we did a couple shows on that where we were trying to find one stupiders has mentioned vp's chief of staff that he's also been at fort watchuka and other shady samplights uh yeah i mean i'm i'm open to seeing the evidence of it gen falmina was also wondering around in your video she was wearing the blue shirt and pink hat under the concrete piece like is that gen falmina hopefully that's my phone i've got a sin to text i have to send a text could that be falmina in the pink you said it so confidently hey baren listen for a while for some two per chat i love july and i cannot wait for the episode much love much love to you nightmare thanks for joining the crowd uh story full news but a staff member had yellow caution tape in his hand right after the bang makes you wonder why did you have it i have a pick well so after they arrived they put that yellow caution tape to establish a perimeter behind the tent uh behind the cars that were behind the tent it was possibly just random grab that Tyler may have followed lands to provo that day to see where lands was taking the rifle merch idea shirt this is i don't know what that means i don't know what that means i wish i knew i know what that i know it uh oh jewels jammin uh when i moved my son out of new york city at nine our neighbor said hello as did i son says ma why are you talking to strangers very ill in north of virginia not very far from sac castello i don't know where he lives i know he's in virginia somewhere this can bring down the entire administration it could bring down entire governments if it's depending on what happened everyone should go watch the last episode by blackline brief matt t as a catholic of blue my mind regarding the case duly noted thank you uh have anyone tell us about traveling with security watch duly and really good interview oh gosh i'm not going to talk about that hey b when will you be providing an update on your necklace theory suspense christ is king indeed um i don't know i don't know next i want to say next week or two but i i don't honestly don't know so much to look in a tempernogous regional hospital financials did they get a large recent donation or new addition might be interesting oh i don't know hi b could the principal legally request to be designated as uh no we've covered this many times no absolutely not uh big fan from the orthopedic capital the world love you in the show um orthopedic capital the world you in delray beach florida i think i do a lot of hip replacement there love days these contributions are his skills for a legal background oh sent or something else um no no they're not legal um just a curious mind curious mind drew up and graduated 99 from out juliet north south uh luiziana north south luiziana in the middle um question who were the guys right after that we're walking with crime tape in hand yeah i guess that's a security team i don't know uh mount juliet's great by the way Wilson county's beautiful over there that's that's Wilson county and the great area great great area great people live over there spend a lot of time over there's a kid uh ball games and such vice president okay i'll allow it yeah i'll be vice president i'll allow it too notice the only podcasters who speak negatively about trans issue are in danger are the only ones who also question our greatest ally a.k.a and blink nenn f all blast trans yet no death threats left by last one blink oh i i that's a good point you it's a good point you point i mean there's a paper trail with every facts and email and email paper trail with every email too uh kandas was charlie's david you are hers and we the jury are yours safe prayers for you both oh goodness gracious that's very kind thank you thank you weird that t.r. texts say almost the exact same words as mk threats almost as if they were written by the same person or today bull butter had excited to get it thank you be a day love your both well it could also be somebody just playing a trick on megan kelly and trying to put a little fear in her by using the exact same words that were leaked out of those text messages i just i'm curious if the text message were public first but i think they were because they i think the thing that drew their alarm was that they were the same language uh what were you worth checking out the aerial maps you had that were a little before the big bang and see if they show shuttles at the hospitals i looked that's all done what was butch hybs role or presence during the trolley curk event oh gosh i wish i knew that uh officially according to his brother just hanging out i don't know just hanging around hey b mid-city saw someone very short and stature at fort somewhere in arizona the vp chief of staff is like five two so that along with the heart poll interview is interesting twice it's king indeed yeah i mean it it if it saw someone short that's interesting because he he's not a he's a diminutive little fella there's more to new york state than the city upstate is very rural green and beautiful i spent twenty twenty weekends hiking the alligator mountains before north thousand islands in between thousand island like the dressing that where they came over the dressing it's delicious it's delicious on french fries um you don't tell people i said that but it's true but it's true um i i believe you when i said new york early i've met new york city i watched on esca bars through peters the other night she seems sad the more they talked about potential gun running yeah yeah i I would be. to how this should be given a job as a special ops or deep seal the way he's given the he has the FBI, even the FBI baffled on an open and shut federal cover up. Yeah. Yeah. Why the white around roof guy and hole in CK collar? I don't know what the wide around the roof guy means. The hole in the Charlie Kirk collar, if it's a hole, that would be very devastating to the gunshot there. My DNL megs DNL. What's a DNL? Daughter-in-law megs 30th birthday's of the day she's still deployed for the current war. Well, I praise for her. Thank you. Love you be and God bless. Prayers indeed and happy birthday to her. I hope she's enjoying it. Hi, Daisy, when Colvette was being all sketchy regarding where he was, MIA before after Charlie Kirk's demise, Andrews, double speak reminded me a lot of when I caught my ex stepping out guilty feed. I've got no rhythm. Guilty feed have got no rhythm. I wish I could sing. Crisis can you do, but I for the life of me can't sing. I just can't sing. I wish I could. A great job on Julian Dory, so glad he had you on. Love you both, both of y'all. Oh, both of y'all, you must be Southern. I'll allow it. Check out the website for the HDO you drink. They delivered to some counties in Tennessee. I hope it's mine. My B members show idea. I have community vote on members for you to bring on and interview, talk about their life story and get to know our favorite members. That's not a bad idea. More tissues videos fine. She was very respectful. Make great members live you. She was fine. I didn't have a problem with it at all. I don't mind people disagree with me. I don't mind people pointing out where I've gotten something where I've had shortcomings in my analysis. I don't care. I mean, if I was prideful and only wanted to be right and was looking for a certain result, I would care. I do not care. If she can provide additional information to this case, great. I even comment in her comments. I'd like thanks for the shout out. I'm all in favor of it. My B. I rewatched Candace's last episode, bothered by CK's medical records. She said she couldn't understand why the records were in a different hospital. You don't only transfer records if you get authorization from responsible party. How did that happen? I don't know. I don't know. Sister and I watch you in Candace every night. Always call to follow up the next day to discuss our family. To discuss. Our family thinks we're crazy. They're just not high IQ enough and they eat up the Fetslop doing our best to convert them. Keep going max Christ is King. Indeed. Oh well. Keep working on them. Ben, there was a video of a guy running across the roof taken by a student similar angle to the one key CEO showed on Thursday of him prone. But I remember longer video of him running and in all black. Have you seen it? No. The only other video I've seen it. There's only three total videos I've seen in someone on the roof. The one Candace showed and the downgraded versions of it. The one from the side angle. With him just lying crony never ran to or fro. And the only other one I recall seeing was from the Hall of Flags looking back over the crowd and you just saw him for a glimpse and you couldn't tell you where. So I don't know what you're talking about. Mathematically, the US political system always settles into only two major parties. So we should never call it a third party. Instead, we should always call it a replacement party. Good to know, good to know. Bear in it say Perot and Tenable. Oh, yeah, it's got a hole in the bottom. Look, you're right. Stick that bad boy on an antenna. That's how you know it's dated. There's no one has antennas anymore. They have these little fins on the top of their car and Tenable, huh? Thank you. Thank you. I can barely get my super chest to go through. I have an important info, but YouTube sensors have the words in English language. Well, get creative. Get creative. Provo resident agency FBI office, a satellite office of the FBS Salt Lake City Field Office 88, one West 100 North sweet 200 Provo Utah 12 minutes away from you. Well, if I got there in 16 minutes, that means they only wasted four minutes. They must have been ready to go. They don't have to go to the bathroom, put down lunch. If a hospital is on the version, there should be radio traffic from dispatch stating such. We'll look for that. It's a good call. On the wall of the Fulton Library around Charlie Kirk-Tree-Clocky and Carol recorded a camera hanging there. Did anyone see footage from it so far? Life is driving footage. Time mark 53-0-2-17. I have not seen footage from shy. Welcome in. Mr. My Bee. My Bubba Bee Bee. And your opinion in lawyer career, how much does HIPAA hold up and especially high profile case? Just curious. HIPAA should be observed. There's still civil and criminal penalties that can attach to HIPAA Violet. But keep in mind, it only applies to providers. They call covered entities. It only applies to covered entities. I don't want to say providers too narrow because anyone who receives and scores from providers also covered entities. So an insurance company, a billing processor. But yeah, it only applies to covered entities. So anyone who's not a covered entity who comes into contact with these records is not covered by HIPAA. Now they may be covered by some other civil or criminal penalty. I'm not aware of. I'm not suggesting anyone take any action if they get a hold of medical records. But it wouldn't be a HIPAA violation. It'd be something else. The first copy showed in the beginning that looked Chinese. Was the same cop directing people back as they were carrying Charlie the SUV. Good call. His name's Kim. The pro balls and antenna ball. But on your car antenna, yes, I'm old. I mean, I'm old and I didn't know that. My friend lives close. You be you and can be on ground. FYI. Okay, newly noted. I agree. My Bee. One of the patsys wasn't supposed to still be alive. I agree with that. I agree with it. The item the officer was banging on the tables of microphone. I said that. I said that. The people are wondering who was in what frame at what at the crime scene? Maybe our greatest ally could help. Palantir bagged about identifying thousands of people on January 6th. Can we find out who Pink Hat person is? Someone thinks it might be Femina. Catching up now. Two, Matt at Blackline brief reports that Beck's wife is living with EK to watch her children in her absence. So that question is answered or to you JD and doc. Very cool collab love docs work. Yeah, it is a cool collab and I think you'll enjoy it quite a lot. It's a very good discussion. I don't I didn't hear Matt say that and I don't know that to be true and I don't even know how I begin to verify that. So I don't know what to make of that. I switched cards between here since Ian don't you think you opened eyes on Julian or do you think you opened eyes on Julian Dory with Joseph? I don't want to give the game away of what happened. But I think it's I think it'll be valuable going forward. I think it'll be a very valuable interview going forward in this investigation. I don't want to say one of the more valuable pieces that's been done. But I think it I think it will blend tremendous help to the investigation. All I'm going to say. Now it'll be an overtime thing. And we'll talk about it after it drops. 99% of ER is going lockdown for gunshot wound. Okay, someone comes to finish it just FYI. Also, if someone ran into tell me what to do in my trauma bay, we'll just say bless his heart. Keep doing what you were doing. Well, bless his heart indeed. That's for those that aren't southern. That's southern for go to heady. Go to Hades. Three, please excuse my low IQ. I need timeline clarity. If autopsy shows chest neck wound, which we expected was that prior to finding the pew. Would they know about that narrative yet? Does that signify significantly harm their bull? Yes, they would have known that the gun was found. Because the gun was found like 5 p.m. in the autopsy could not have taken place before like eight or nine p.m. So at least the knowledge would be there. Whether it made it made its way to the autopsy room, I don't know. Hey, B, could you take a look at a few emails I sent when you can? And maybe subject is the hats. Bear in the hats. Keep going max crisis. King indeed. If you're just telling me that the hats can be tested, we've covered that. We don't know where they are. I signed up for X to follow you. And can this got shadow band as well. Rarely would comment just like all your comments one day went and was banned. Appealed and was denied. Well, that's not shadow banding. That's flat out band. You obviously said something along the way. Please have someone put your videos into playlist. With keywords added to the description, I make videos and your credible source takes a lot of time, though. My videos also keywords in the description. And they have transcripts. And every now and then I upload a bunch of the transcripts to rock and tell them to use them make them visible. And I think the web might be still grabbing my transcripts. I'm not sure if they still doing that or not. First time ever sending chat. Have you heard of devolution? You are brilliant and would love your take. And I've never heard of devolution. Badlands Joe here. I would love to give you my take. Sorry I've been corrected and may have misheard. It may be This is Rob McCoy with children, the widespread destruction of evidences and furiating plus FBI took their clothing and should all and also be charged well. I can only state with certainty I know for a fact they took one person's clothing. And I heard Candace say they took all our others. So I believe her because that's consistent with taking all of one person's clothing. Why would they only take one person's why would they take everyone's I don't know. Where is the close? Where's the where's the clothing? If I'm the defense lawyer, I want to ask that question. You guys took the security clothing? Don Daston? Wasn't there a guy who said he saw an SUV pulling the hospital guys put someone on gurning and not the SUV, my EMM drove back out this piece of it. Yeah, we did a show on that just a month or so ago, maybe less. We don't know what to make of it. I mean, he did say that, but we don't know if he's, you know, I'm not talking to him. By the way, it is alleged that Michael Bert, a defense attorney for T.R.'s a cousin of Tarot Farmsworth. Correct. We've mentioned that on the number of occasions. I don't know if that's true. I assume. I mean, it's been talked about enough. I think they would have come out by now and said it's not. That's where I've heard that governments, militaries across the world use facts machines because it's the most secured way to get things to and from, well, as long as you know who's on the other end of the facts machine, what do you think of the connection with Russell twigs, Eldias for Zionism and Nauvoo, Nauvoo Lodge and Freemasonie, I don't know what to make all that. You're wedding ring. Gold silver. It's white gold. I wore it to the, to go to Julian's podcast because I knew I wasn't going to be working out for a couple days. So I did wear it, but I took it off because I worked out today. I was carrying heavy kettlebells. So I did not want to have it on. A bear. Run. With it to the knee. Join Julian's Patreon to watch the show couldn't get sound on the video. So then I got a membership that worked. You and Julian make a great team looking forward to the second half later this week. I am too. Thank you. I'll let Julian know. I'm going to tell them all the new members. I'm taking credit for all of them. I'm late. But I love how Terrell take the cameras down, messes around the table and then automatically gets on his phone. Yeah. He might have been playing words with friends. We don't know. Hi, man. Hi, Texas Theresa. Should we see a muzzle flash in the video? I don't know. I'm not a firearms expert. White broad daylight at noon or just shortly afternoon. It wasn't overcast or dark. It's not the best footage anyway, but I think you should see some evidence of shot was taken and I don't. I know some people claim they do. I don't. I think you should see some movement of some sort. It looks to me like he's laying perfectly still and gets up and runs off. I just don't reconcile that with a gun shot. That's your email. So a huge bug in the video right before you get shot. I wonder if it could be drum bugs sounds crazy, but you never know see picks. I promise I've seen those picks and I don't see drove. My emails are about Tyler's hats, not TV USA heads. Oh, do you notice recent follower, great content joining late. Do you know how qualified Tyler's legal representation is? Does he have public defenders or we do know he has public defenders and they are imminently qualified. These are people who've tried death penalty cases who are very familiar and versed and have decades of experience combined maybe a hundred years or more of experience. Trying criminal cases. So they're qualified. Just, you know, Hey, Baron, hi, Baron, watch your watch end your interview with Julian today. Your humble host was fantastic. I love Julian and deep. Love you, Baron. Thank you for all you do. Yeah. I was walking to breakfast and saw deep walking down the road and I was like, yeah, I know you. He was going to the gym. I was going to eat. Plus one deep. But I'm coming for you. I'm coming for you. Did we hear if it was Charlie's phone that pinged 9-1-1? No, we have not heard. No, we've not heard. But we know we have heard and we hear time and time again and everyone, every time you, every time we get to this, people are like, I forgot, I forgot. I forgot. Jesus loves you. Jesus loves you. We get there every time. People like, I forget. I forget. No, don't forget. Guys, if you like the show, click like, subscribe. You can join. It's a great way to support the program to join the members feed. You get access to all the members content, plus access to show live shows that come up in the future. There should be one Tuesday, for example. Maybe Friday, but I think it'll be Tuesday and. It's a lot of fun. We have a lot of fun on those shows. They're totally different shows than what you see here. Totally different shows. Anyone as a member can tell you, they're a little wilder, typically a little wilder. But yeah, that's it. That's all I got for you. Go watch the Julian Dory show with the podcast, with your humble host. Be on the lookout for part two of that that's going to be coming out later this week. If you're not on Julian's Patreon, it probably will come out tomorrow or Tuesday, not sure when he claims to release that. But I'll be back tomorrow afternoon. They do an early show tomorrow. We'll see how it goes. I really liked that early show last week. We did an early show. It had a great crowd, a huge crowd, got so much feedback that people liked the 2 p.m. kickoff. So maybe we'll do that tomorrow, see if we can put a show together in time. If not, I'll see you for the after party for the after party, ladies and gentlemen. Have a wonderful evening. We'll chat soon.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The host was late due to spilling something on their hoodie and apologizes, noting it won’t happen again.
  2. A new podcast with Julian Dory, a highly regarded host, has been released, featuring in-depth discussions on the Charlie Kirk investigation and broader political themes.
  3. The podcast covers both the investigation and a wide range of topics, including political philosophy and real-time video evidence.
  4. The host emphasizes that the conversation with Julian Dory was professional, respectful, and fact-based—unlike many online discussions that descend into name-calling and chaos.
  5. Key lessons learned
  6. The host criticizes the failure of law enforcement to establish a crime scene perimeter within minutes of the incident, leading to evidence destruction.
  7. A leaked image of Marjorie Taylor Green, Tucker Carlson, and others has sparked debate about the potential rise of a third party, though the host remains cautious about its feasibility due to lack of infrastructure and financial support.
  8. The host stresses that real progress in the investigation depends on disciplined, evidence-based dialogue, not social media outrage.

Summary:

The host shares a personal anecdote about being late due to a minor mishap, then dives into a newly released podcast with Julian Dory, a respected and deeply prepared host. The conversation is described as a rare, professional, and intellectually rigorous exchange on the Charlie Kirk investigation—covering not just the case, but broader political and investigative principles. The host praises Julian’s approach, emphasizing curiosity, preparation, and respectful dialogue, in contrast to the toxic, name-calling debates that dominate social media spaces.

A key lesson is that the investigation must be conducted at a high standard of professionalism, avoiding emotional reactions or baseless accusations. The host also highlights critical negligence by law enforcement in the immediate aftermath: no perimeter was established, cameras were taken down, and evidence was destroyed within minutes. This undermines the entire investigation’s integrity.

Additionally, the host comments on a leaked photo of prominent political figures, expressing cautious optimism about a potential third-party movement, while noting its logistical and financial challenges. He concludes that real progress requires disciplined, fact-driven discourse, and calls for a shift away from online chaos toward constructive, adult-level conversations.

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The podcast will be released for the general public on Tuesday, with the first part already available to Patreon members.

The sessions were three and a half hours on Friday and four and a half hours on Saturday, making the full podcast potentially five hours or more when ad breaks are included.

The speaker sat down with Julian Dory and another guest, though the identity of the guest is not publicly revealed.

The speaker emphasizes the importance of respectful, adult-level conversations that focus on facts and evidence, rather than name-calling or emotional reactions, to uncover the truth.

The speaker argues that many discussions have devolved into name-calling, personal attacks, and chaos on social media, which prevents meaningful progress toward understanding the facts.

The speaker questions how FBI agents could arrive on the scene in just 16 minutes, given the distance, and wonders if they had prior knowledge of the event or were already in the area.

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