WAR IS ON For Midterms, DOJ ARRESTS Illegal Aliens For Voter Fraud w/ Paul Martino

the doj has arrested illegal immigrants mexican national a trinidad and tobago national for voter fraud in pennsylvania the midterm war is heating up and the question is will the right make a procedural victory in this election to be honest it's a question of will they actually just get the votes there's a diesel diesel shortage gas is up uh trump's approval rating is hovering an aggregate around 40 maybe slightly down and the prediction markets are saying democrats are going to obliterate the gop but with the doj going after voter fraud with these moves on the the post office whether that actually works or not there's a question of whether or not republican strategy is targeting the procedure of how the vote happens now of course democrats are calling that voter fraud itself and suppressing the vote but guys i gotta be honest in the end the winner is the person who is sitting in that chair in congress in the presidency in the senate whatever it may be so we'll talk about that we got a bunch of big news too of course xi jinping is still here in the united states and there's a massive protest underway it's getting pretty wild and uh i even saw when uh where was i was in la falun gong protesters protesting xi jinping coming to the and you may you may have heard of those guys so we'll talk about that plus we got a bunch of war stuff of course as we already mentioned the uh news about the gas shortage and then i know you guys may have talked about it earlier in the week these this poll showing that around a third of democrats support the assassination of trump two-thirds support a military coup against our duly elected democratically elected government so uh i'm back i definitely want to talk about all of that stuff and more so of course smash that like button and subscribe to our channel share the show with all your friends joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more we've got paul martino i'm excited to be here it's a pleasure uh who are you what do you do so uh day jobs i run a venture capital firm but i'm currently here because i'm in a film called bucks county usa bucks county usa is about political division in the united states done by two academy award-winning directors robert may and barry levinson and the film follows the friendship of my daughter and her best friend who don't agree with her and she's going to be a part of the film and it's about their friendship in spite of the fact that we're political rivals i think it's a very timely story in the environment that you're describing you know uh just to the chagrin of so many people who watch this show i'm friends with brian shapiro i don't know if you know who he is but man he is one of the most hated liberal lefty guys phil's blocked him it's just only on the internet brian came back multiple times we could actually probably as multiple times if brian comes back look i'll hang out with him would be nice but on twitter he's uh he's a mean guy he's a mean guy in politics and so it's true and i tell him this all the time and uh but i i actually just did a con i had a conversation with jillian michaels uh for for my interview show which will be coming out in a week or so but this is what we've been talking about there we we have to get rid of the crazies we have to stop the crazies that uh did you see that lesbian masking bar story that went massively viral i in massachusetts i sure did yeah the okay we got to stop the crazies like listen if you want to have a bar where your message is fine but sending death threats to the bar owner yeah those people these are not real people in the real world i know they exist but they shouldn't be presumed to be the majority or in control so we got to have these conversations it's going to be fun man appreciate you coming the boys are hanging out yeah what's going on tim good to have you back good to be back hello everybody good to see you carter yeah tim good uh good to have you back man it was an adventure i was in los angeles of course uh before we get started my friends head over to casprew.com buy coffee your your coffee purchases sustain a us uh helps keep the show going keeping us here and we also drink the coffee too we've got pool water we've got whole bean ground coffee flavors when you buy any one of these amazing ground coffee flavors you are supporting the personality behind it so whether it be mary morgan or seamus or phil or josie the redheaded libertarian we also have k cups and uh definitely check it out support the show but again don't forget to smash that like button subscribe to this channel share the show right now with everybody let's start with the news my friends we've got this from the doj four aliens charged with election fraud in pennsylvania illegal alien from haiti allegedly submitted eight fraudulent voter registration applications and also allegedly voted in the november 2022 election i'm gonna pause there first thing i know we're gonna hear from our liberal counterparts is oh this is just four people hold on the issue is they're facilitating election fraud who were these eight fraudulent registrations for and this person voted so it's not about one vote it's about a a system and it's about an avalanche it's going to be difficult because of course you can't go after every single snowflake snowflake that makes up that avalanche to illegal alien from mexico allegedly illegally voted in november 2022 and 24 trinidad tobago national allegedly illegally voted in the november 2022 election a mexican national allegedly illegally voted in the november 24 general election our sovereignty as a nation belongs to the american people and no one else u.s attorney metcalf said anyone including illegal aliens who votes illegally in our elections will be prosecuted for corrupting our democracy so uh there's the there's the obvious question right off the bat that i'm they've already opined upon it's just four illegal aliens are we actually seeing enough from the doj that it will have an impact on the actually moving the needle in favor of any political party and is the action for the doj going to be enough to change anything right now the opinion from basically everybody is that republicans are getting crushed well the republicans are definitely going to get cooked like they're they the situation unless there's a dramatic dramatic change in the united states before the election you know we're just over a month and i think a month and a half away a month and a month and a week away they're they're done um as to whether or not these people matter the headline said that they're facilitating so it it's more than just obviously the four people what are they doing how many people are they facilitating you know what does facilitating mean does it mean that they're organizing illegals to vote does it does it mean that they're organizing the hundreds does it mean that there are more people like them that are organizing as well um so that i think is is an important question but i don't know that these four individuals matter but what's downstream from them uh possibly could you know yeah i mean this is a tough one because okay it's great we got we got four charge and election fraud but you know it probably requires a smoking gun with a volume of smoke that looks like a wildfire uh to to back people for this because i mean you know california how many videos have we seen now in exposés on illegals voting in california granted they're probably voting at the state level but still you know without states forking over their election data it's probably pretty hard um to pin down any any anybody on this and and especially when you know democrat states they're not gonna they're gonna do everything they can to prevent the federal government from looking at anything they've made it you know i think that california's passed legislation that says that the the feds aren't allowed to look or something along those lines so they're gonna do everything they can to stonewall how i'm curious because uh you know like as i'm thinking about the story and even how i outlined it it's a perception as to who's doing wrong the perception from the liberals is that the right is reacting there's no voter fraud it's minimal only four people that's not going to change a thing to the right the left is entertaining non-citizen voting allowing non-citizens to vote or to come in the country and they're not trying to stop it and you're not going to convince either liberal or conservative staunch liberal conservative that their worldview is incorrect so how do we even navigate the space if in the end republicans end up somehow winning the narrative is going to be among uh liberals that it was this that they're not going to stop it and they're not going to this it was intimidating minorities it was manipulating uh the results the supreme court was in on it when the republicans lose you're going to get a ton of conservatives saying oh yeah of course trump lost he's the most popular president but it's because illegals are voting this is this is the narrative that we've already had for for a decade i wonder if that's actually gonna would would pan out i think there's a lot i think a lot of republicans are aware of how uh of how disappointed the electorate is with the republicans are with democrat or with a donald trump is that why you're saying that because you're saying that because you're saying that the republicans left congress early and aren't doing their jobs i have no idea why the republicans left early and aren't doing their jobs but i think that i think that well i mean it's because that's what congress does yeah that's what they do but the you know most people in the u.s you know if you go by polls and stuff they're really pretty uptight about the war in iran and they're uptight about the gas prices i i think that they would be like well you know he said he was going to do this stuff and he didn't and you know there's there's an element of truth let me let me let me ask you uh paul do you think that the republicans are going to be able to do this stuff i i this like i guess i guess i might be a little black pilly to point this out but it feels like we're not mending like the results of this election are just going to be acrimonious there's no question look richard barris if you guys know him he's very good pollster he was he was at the premier party that we did for the bucks county usa show and we went through some of the data in advance i'm a classically trained data scientist my wife who's in the film she's been a google employee for 23 years on their data team so we've looked at this and we've looked at this and we've looked at the data it looks very bad for us and richard will tell you that but i'll tell you one of the things we did learn in pennsylvania at the last election There's a lot of stuff that isn't so much outright illegal, but really pushes the border. Like we saw a lot of mail-in ballots once the rules changed in Pennsylvania that got sent to a house and magically they then got dispersed to a set of people like the kids who were in college who you're not supposed to be able to do that with. So there's a lot of stuff that really can tip the balance when it's close. Well, I suppose it doesn't matter then. Well, I mean, and this kind of goes to, look, this election fraud screen, our elections, et cetera. This is a top priority for Republican voters, obviously. And I think the evidence, I don't know if it's in the stack. We had Tim Mellon today, who's a mega donor to the Republican Party. Last election cycle, he punted up $200 million. I believe he was the guy that bailed out Congress when there was the government shutdown and they weren't going to pay the military. I think Tim Mellon was the one who stepped up. If you go to his Wikipedia, the last picture they have of him is from the 70s. But he's like this kind of, he's from the Carnegie Mellon, the Mellon part of the Carnegie Mellon family, you know, Gilded Age, billionaire, et cetera. Anyway, $200 million is what he ponied up last, and this is what he's planning on doing this cycle. He revised it all the way down to $5 million. So he's cut $195 million out of the purse of the Republican Party. Why? He cited specifically frustration that the SAVE Act didn't pass. So, yes, Republican voters are obviously upset about Iran. But additionally. You know, as much as this is on the Trump administration for the Iran war, a majority of this, I mean, we're talking about midterms. We're talking about electing Republican congressmen. It's frustration that this Republican Congress can't get anything done. Something as popular as the SAVE Act, something that should be a home run, doesn't get passed. Now it's not just voters complaining on Twitter or even maybe not showing up at a high enough turnout. It's quite literally mega donors, you know, closing the checkbook on Republicans and Tim Mellon putting his money, where his mouth is, that should petrify these guys. It's like, you know, I mean, it's kind of a joke that I have. I'm like, you know, we get on a podcast and we're like, well, I want the SAVE Act passed. But I mean, you know, there is something to that because that really does erode Republican voters' faith in Congress. If you can't get basic stuff like this across, because this kind of stuff pisses people off. Okay, it's four people, but I think everyone can read between the lines here. This is, you know, probably tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands even of fraudulent votes. Being cast in this country and we can only get four pinned down. Additionally, you could probably just solve this problem with the SAVE Act. We can't get that passed. So everyone's like, well, what's the point of voting? You know, if I'm just going to get outvoted by someone that shouldn't even be in the country, you know, a lot of people are thinking along those lines. Yeah, like obviously Donald Trump's going to take the brunt of the heat because he's the president. But I do wonder how many people are going to say, are actually saying, you know, if they can't do, if Congress won't do the things that I want them to do that I've, you know, voted for them. Or I elected them to do SAVE Act being one of the biggest things that has, you know, popular support on both the right and the left. And most Americans say this is a no brainer. If they refuse to do that, maybe there is a portion of the electorate that's like, well, it is Congress. That's a problem. And considering this is a midterm, which has historically lower turnout than the presidential election, maybe they're just like, well, there's no point in voting for the Republicans because they won't even do the simple things that I want. Yeah. And there's something, too, as well about like getting what you want from the GOP. So, you know, OK, voters as voters, we're frustrated with something. Our main reason why we vote Republican at this point, certainly in a in a midterm, is not voting for the Republicans, but simply to keep Democrats out of power. Right. That's the main impetus. I think every one of us that's probably going to consider or vote Republican in the next month is probably voting not because we're in love with the candidate on the ballot. I can name like five. I'd be excited to vote for certainly none of my precinct. But most people are going to the ballot box simply to keep the Democrats out. But a lot of these mega donors do get what they want. And part of it, like Tim Mellon, is because he says, you don't get the SAVE Act passed. So screw you. I'm, you know, I'm taking my I'm taking your money away. Well, my money away. And that's something they have the power to do that Republican voters don't necessarily have. And so this is why, you know, some people come out and they're like, well, maybe we should just not even vote as a protest. And, you know, it's. I don't think it should be completely scoffed at when you look at how Tim Mellon has approached this issue. I mean, I plan on voting Republican, but again, the reason I'm voting Republican is simply just to keep the Democrats out. It's not like they're going to codify any of Trump's agenda. They barely ever do. Let's jump to the story. We've got this from CNN, their latest poll. Trump's midterm woes deepen. I'm in worsened economic backdrop. CNN poll. Well, I don't care too much about a single poll from CNN. It still is fair to point out. Look, you've got a global debate. Diesel shortage likely to last into twenty twenty twenty twenty seven. You've got the U.S. What is correct me, guys, or inform except been out for the earlier this week. Have they made moves on that diesel export ban? We talked about it. Are they doing that? Because, I mean, let's just put it like this. When you've got that as a potential measure, when you need Venezuelan crude to offset the draining of the S.P.R., the economy is not doing well. And there are areas where it's OK. And we're seeing. We're seeing weird things happening, but I think it's all indicative of a major collapse. So let me put it this way. Actually, Paul, you might be a bit more of an expert on this than I. But people seem to be nobody's buying property anymore. Prices are collapsing. Nobody can afford to. Young people aren't buying property, but we are seeing a lot of gambling. So where where I think this is a bad sign. Me, like me personally, everybody knows me. I'm not I'm not morally opposed to people wanting to go out with a night of friends or to make some bets. The issue is when young people aren't saving and you do see them going to casinos, when you do see middle class people going on vacations, it looks like doomer spending. Like the mentality is it's not going to get better. Screw it. Let's just do whatever. I think the state of the economy is actually very bad. And I think it's it's a nuclear bomb for Trump. Actually, don't don't even ignore my opinion. Starbucks is shuttering 250 Starbucks. Stores in its second wave of closing. That's the story that freaked me out. Yeah. And it's it's exactly right. Your mortgage rates are now at two year high again at two year highs. And vice spending is counter cyclical. I was on the board of FanDuel for a decade. I was the first investor in FanDuel when it was seven people in Scotland. And so I saw the entire sequence from being a little fringy fantasy sports company all the way to it being the world's largest sports betting company. Now, and you will always see that vice spending is counter cyclical and does not go down in a recession. It's one of the few things that is recession proof. That makes total sense. I mean, that's something I was going to speculate was, I mean, I guess another way to phrase it is like misery consumption of something like you would also see this was probably alcohol use. So with the instance of zoomers, probably pot usage increases massively during recessions because zoomers don't drink anymore. They've supplemented it with with marijuana. But yeah, I mean, you're. You're seeing a lot of these indicators that people don't even really perceive themselves of having a future in the country, but this kind of like splits. There's like half of people that absolutely do feel like that. That's why you're seeing the birth rate specifically among white Americans slightly rebound. But again, among younger people, again, people that aren't in that traditional range age range to start having children, you're seeing, like, again, really high rates of behaviors that would indicate they're not doing too hot. And then as far as, you know, the D. Diesel export ban, that's likely going to happen again, bad indicator for the United States, but it's going to be an economic reality for Europe. I mean, I know we have a lot of viewers from Europe. I mean, I was talking to a Connor Tomlinson today and he was like, dude, a quarter of our diesel is imported from the United States. He's like, and for context, Connor is British. He's like, the shock here is going to be absolutely nuts. They're already you look over in Germany, they're already paying eleven bucks a gallon for diesel. It's going to get they're going to have none there. Yeah, I mean, I think you're going to see some serious political turmoil over there, which is probably what they need, to be fair. But it makes you wonder, like, OK, well, things are this bad in the United States. You look around the rest of the developed world. I mean, they're having the same problems in East Asia because that a crystal ball into our future. I mean, I don't really know because I mean, again, Scott Besson the other day came out and he said, I don't know how long this war is going to go on. It could be six months. It could be longer. He didn't have an answer. And so you're like, well, if that's the economic secretary who is probably in charge of communicating to the American people, I got this under control. The economy is going to rebound. And he's basically trying to soften the blow to the American people of like, hey, no, this is probably going to get worse or at least be as bad as it is right now. It's not my fault. You know, the Iran war can continue. So you're just seeing all of these indicators. And I'm like, I'm not trying to do I'm not trying to black pill here, but I think really just illustrates how badly things have been screwed up in twenty twenty six. The Trump administration has done a lot of great things. I mean, you know, you know, these like land acknowledgment thing and conservative media, you know, he's done some good things. He's done a lot of good things. You know, he's done a lot of good things. the economy was good but that wasn't a guarantee that they were going to take the election right they're definitely not going to take the election if the economy's bad and to the average person on the street five dollar a gallon gas means the economy's bad that's like it's as pure and simple as that there's a lot of people that especially in the aughts when when the iraq war was going on no war for oil no war for oil even those people if they were paying ten dollars a gallon for gas they would stop saying no for no war for oil like oil is literally like the foundation of modern society still and so if you can't afford to fill your tank if you can't afford to go to the grocery store to get groceries that you can't afford you're going to vote for whoever is not the the the party in power and we're going to see that in november yeah i mean look at the things like inflation under biden and said he's going to fix it and now when it's not fixed somebody's going to have to answer for that and that's unfortunately what i'm worried about in six weeks eight weeks you know part of the thing that one of the things that people were pushing about or one of the reasons that people were like oh you know inflation's so bad they haven't seen the necessary rise of wages right to fix it so they were thinking like that people will say oh you know everything's too expensive but the reason why people don't think that is because their dollar goes far enough the wages that that generally rise to meet in inflation it hasn't happened it hasn't materialized yet and that's a long-term problem that's and that's just a reality of economics but still until you get people feeling like they can afford to to live their lives you're done at the polls down compared to last year yeah you know what i was thinking with just like uh i don't want to i don't want to spill the beans on any private stuff but you just say people in media holy crap that's a gigantic flood it's huge he's flying around like crazy in here someone's got to take him out again uh i think the internet has become too real life i think the internet used to be your escape from real life you know you'd go to work you'd go to business then you come home you go online and you'd look up stories you'd read things it was kind of an escape but now that work has become the internet everyone's basically checking out and uh the reason why i think that's relevant to this is that politics is no longer in the forefront of what their lives are i think it became too real and then people are like i need an escape from real life so they're going back to real life they're kind of just chilling out and saying i don't want to hear it this means people are detaching from what was this you know 10-year period of hyper news of politics as pop culture it may go back to people largely just don't care anymore we didn't get the changes we were hoping for there were some victories but we didn't get the big changes we were hoping for uh cancel culture is still here ed sheeran's crying on stage and i feel it man i feel it personally it's it's it's you know burnout isn't the right word and and black pill isn't the right word either it's kind of a uh i'm just so tired of saying the same thing and hearing the same thing and debating the same things and now here we are with a new quagmire in the middle east economic woes this time it may be worse than ever and i feel like most people are just like i'm staying home yeah that's that that's what's really going to impact the republicans so to tate's point about you know we're voting to keep the democrats out i agree but i feel like a lot of people are like that doesn't matter if they're in or not republicans don't do anything well and some of these candidates that are on some of these tickets are so bad that like you don't even really know if you're keeping the democrats out insofar as the way that this governor is going to conduct himself you know isn't going to be that much like meaningfully different from the from the democrat that would come in and people like get so you know upset about this but like i'm not here to do a get out the vote like i'm just trying to again as a political commentator like communicate what i'm seeing how i'm viewing this and i'm like again i don't you're looking at a few of these especially governor's races and you're like i mean again how are they meaningfully going to govern any different the senators is obviously a bit of a different story because we're talking about you know if alito or thomas goes down we need votes that guy that's that's kind of my thinking for the senate it's like okay well it's really about this room court um but you look at some of these governor's races and you're like i if i live in that state i mean it'd be really hard to you know take time out of your day to go and vote you're like what is there to get super excited about i understand what you're saying but um i just put a link in the the slack tim and it's hassan piker talking about democrats right and he's saying you know he's talking he says stuff like i want to throw i want to throw you in prison i want chinese style communism to happen inside the democratic party right now i want to do cultural revolution s and the thing is i get what you're saying but people like parker uh like like piker are route through the democrat party oh yeah and so if you end up with democrats in control of the house and the senate god forbid they get the presidency in two years because this is this is a recipe for disaster for the united states of america yeah you know and and so the i understand that you know the economy is rough right now and people are hurting and i again like you said it's like we're not trying to do a get out the vote here but the future that is possible with democrats in control and that's a great thing to bring up is an absolute nightmare well i agree but that's my point is that like that we're already on the back foot where it's like the entire pitch for the republicans right now is look at hassan piker and it's like that works for us because we're all like you know you know people reading the news or whatever but again like your average joe pulled the lever for trump because he saw him on joe rogan's podcast or whatever like that's not going to cut it let me let me jump to this poll i think you guys talked about it the other day but i want to pull this up from the center for strategic politics democrats want trump out by almost any means necessary 75 percent very positive and 12 percent somewhat positive want trump impeached and convicted okay 70 uh very positive with 14 somewhat positive using the 25th amendment trump has been declared unfit and removed trump dying overnight in his sleep enjoys 55 positivity from democrats yeah because then they can safeguard the constitution a group of u.s military leaders have removed trump from power this is insane 43 percent very positive 16 percent somewhat positive we have 59 percent of democrats finding a positive that a that a military coup be waged against the democratically elected president here's the worst 23 positive nine percent somewhat positive trump being assassinated yeah this is what i am trying to keep out of office now we all saw that story of the lesbian covid bar if you don't know the story i'll give you the quick gist it's a lesbian bar in massachusetts you had to wear a mask it's years after the pandemic nobody wears masks there's no mask mandate so they were going under they were they were not getting business they announced saturday night just saturday night it would be optional to wear a mask they got death threats they were accused of being white supremacists ridiculous ableist white supremacists committing a genocide against the disabled community i'm not kidding yeah they got blasted by these comments that's like 20 minutes from my house in new york city i'm not kidding it's like 20 minutes from my house in new york city new york city we need to stop pretending that these comments are real life we need to stop pretending that these replies that you guys get represent customers to your business who want to buy a bakery fresh cinnamon bun once we realize that we can actually move forward in this country with real debates and for the moderate liberals who just don't like trump you will win more elections when when you join us in pointing out these people are bad but unfortunately for us i guess even with this uh csp poll looks like just more than half of democrats want trump to die yeah so uh good luck america man well and what's what's so interesting about that data um as you can like buttress it with listening to someone like hassan piker for example is you know the way that conservative commentators when they're talking about the republican party they're like they're so ineffective they don't do anything they're not sufficiently right-wing enough etc hassan piker has the same exact criticisms of the democrat party if you listen to the way that people like him talk they're saying these democrats don't do anything they're always sitting around so like you kind of understand too it's a bit of an arms race now the democrat party is obviously um a bit more active than the republican party i think that'd be fair to say because the democrat congress was in lockstep with trump or not trump biden's agenda a lot more than the republican congresses with trump's agenda um like for example trump is has been like demanding this avac passed um and he collaborated with pax and on some ops to get that conducted it still hasn't passed but from their perspective the democrat party is also not sufficiently you know left-wing enough and so yeah it is kind of this arms racist mexican standoff but i'd be curious to see what this polling would reflect on the republican party where i think the majority of republicans would be pretty horrified um to imagine you know president biden just dying outright i mean that would i would find that pretty sad um like i'm human enough to like not want people to just die But, you know, I think this does demonstrate difference in the way that they actually just perceive life this is why the dying overnight in his sleep is shocking because that 55 positivity because i gotta be honest if they were neutral on it people who hated trump were like well the balance there is if you said it sucks that he died but we really think he's a bad leader i could understand that argument it sucks it is But the wanting a military coup, 60 percent. I mean, that's insane. But that's their identity. This is what I've learned from my experience being in Bucks County. I live in the purplest part of the purplest state in the country. Right. You can't win a presidency without Pennsylvania and it's tough to win Pennsylvania without Bucks County. That's why the film I'm in was about our our conflict, because it's a very important place. And what you realize, it's about their identity. That's what it's about. And the reason that they say what they say on this poll is it validates their identity to to lash out and make a statement like this so they can feel good about themselves. And it's very difficult to ever have a rational conversation with the person who feels that way. Yeah. I mean, I don't disagree with anything anyone's saying, not substantially, but there are like there are times where I feel like Kyle Reese just screaming about like the future is going to be so terrible. Right. Like I'm like from the Terminator. Like if the Democrats get control of the government the way that they had control of the government when Barack Obama was elected, right, the supermajority, you are going to see sweeping changes like sweeping changes and America will never be the same. The situation in California where Republicans just cannot win, like they've got little enclaves down in Orange County. There's a lot of Republicans. There's Republicans spread out through the desert. That's going to be the whole country. Like there will be there will not be a situation where Republicans can win because the Democrats will change the rules. So that way they win. And again, I bring up California because this is this is the way it works. People in California like they they just say, well, you know, that's what the law is. But the law is literally allowing them to cheat. And it's not cheating because it's legal. That's right. It's not actually cheating. And then so people have a simple way to. To stop the argument. Well, that's the law. Change the law then. And it's like, how do you change the law when you can't get anyone elected? Well, you can't. So you're stuck. And it's it's you know, I don't I don't we talk about, you know, civil conflict here enough. And I don't want to get into that. But, you know, that is a real possibility, especially when the people that are young people in the Democrat Party are pretty extreme. When you see these kind of numbers. Yeah. When when when they look at the. The Republican president with this kind of of derision and this kind of of animosity, they look at and not just the president, because they look at Republicans generally, the MAGA Republicans, they look at MAGA Republicans as the same way they look at Donald Trump and they will think, well, we have to save our democracy. We have to save our democracy from these people. So we have to make sure that they're disenfranchised. Essentially, we can't allow their voice to be heard. We can't allow them to influence our democracy because it's our democracy. It's not their democracy. It's not theirs. We have control and it's a word game. Yeah. But at the end of the day, that is a very real possibility in either 2028 or 2032 for when if if the president is a Democrat with a with a sweeping control with a Congress that's swept by Democrats. Yeah, well, I mean, this is this is like the key difference between the two parties ultimately is like the North Star of the Democrat Party has a much stronger pull over. For voters, it's much easier to mobilize along because their North Star is ultimately just anti-white. Fundamentally, that is like what everything kind of points back to. This is why Zoran Mamdani like cites Nelson Mandela, South Africa. This is like ideal system. He says he's like a big admirer of South Africa. And we've seen how things have gone there for the Republican Party. Our North Star is like very vague, difficult to like truly describe. No one can really even agree on like what the definition is. It's just these vague ideas of like freedom. And again, like this kind of blurry picture of like the 1980s is broadly, I think, what the North Star is for the Republicans. You can't really mobilize on that, because if you ask like go go to the RNC and ask me, what do you think freedom is? What do you think liberty is like? No one's going to have an agreement. It's going to be all boilerplate. You know what? What do you want to go back to 1980s? It's like, OK, well, that was just an earlier stage of liberalism. So it's like the left has something really. The Democrat Party broadly has something that they can mobilize on very quickly. They know exactly what to do again. And taking apart is much easier than building, you know, redistributionist policies. That's very motivating for voters. Republicans are just like, I don't know. Let's like keep this all together. Let's let's not like start dismantling things. It's just it's it's really hard to compete with. So, I mean, that's kind of I mean, this is something people have been saying for a long time on the right. But it's like the Republican Party really does need to come up with a way to or rather they need to come up with a message that is like pro something. It's like providing a vision. The American people. We did this with Make America Great Again. But, you know, once you start having these problems like Iran, that falls apart quickly. I described the Democratic Party the same way I would in terms of the politicians, how they behave, how they act. I would say that strategy. I see it so similarly in the Republican Party these days. And there is a I call it the chicken coop naivete. That is, I'm I'm rather shocked, actually. It really it is true that. We ended up in this war. We ended up in this gas shortage. The economy is in the position that it's in because Trump's first term was pretty good. But I wonder if all of that lawfare and just battering down a Trump finally broke him and he lets in the wolves into the hen house and we end up with war, conflict, crisis because that's what the machine wanted. Well, he seems to be a lot. Let me think out a word this while being like because I do mean this like with politeness, he seems to be a lot less active, especially in twenty twenty six. Like he doesn't really seem to be. He doesn't seem as many irons in the fire as he did last year, certainly compared to the first term, like when he's in these press pools and whatnot, he's like talking about the ballroom and like the Trump arc and stuff or arch arc to Trump, whatever you call it. And I'm like, I mean, those are cool. Like, I'd like to get those built, but it's not really too high on the priority list. I think Trump is kind of like doing his thing. I think part of what's going on there is he's not on Twitter anymore. He's not even according to some report, he's not even really watching Fox. Anymore like he's pretty much just on Truth Social, watching Fox every once in a while. So he's not really like seeing a lot of what's happening right now. He's like when the first time he's on Twitter all day long, he's tweeting a lot. Now it's just a super long post on Truth Social that, you know, he's dictated to someone. So I think that's part of what's going on. I think Trump is just he's older now. He's just like a lot less active, maybe would be the word to use. And so, you know, in these moments, you kind of have to look at it. You look around and be like, all right, who's the who's going to be the torchbearer here? That's when you kind of look over at Congress. It's like, OK, well, we elect you to carry out Trump's agenda. Like, let's get moving here. You know, crickets. So, you know, I think I think that's partially what's going on with Trump is. Yeah, I think he's always been he's always been persuadable by people he trusts as well. And I think there's people in his inner circle that really wanted to see this Iran war carried out. And yeah, I think he's bleeding allies around the time the war took place. So when you're bleeding allies, you start to look at who your big cheerleaders are. At that time, it was like Laura Loomer. It was like Mark Levin. Well, Trump Trump's maintained his core base. He's lost the coalition, though. The coalition, meaning there's a lot of moderates and a lot of libertarians. I do think, however, the big issue is not so much that people are mad at Trump. When it comes to your regular person, you're walking down the street and talk to him more. So they're indifferent. There's no enthusiasm right now. It feels like. We're not accomplishing anything. It feels like we're drifting away from the light at the end of the tunnel. And the left is highly motivated right now. So that's why I think the prediction markets are swinging heavily in their favor. And it's looking apocalyptic for the right. Then the GOP decides to leave. We're going to cut it early. Goodbye. And they just go home. So they could be, you know, to be fair, to be fair, I will say this. Maybe the reason they called it early is to get everybody campaigning. They want to get them out of D.C. into the streets. So that could be the reason. But it does look miserably bad. That's how desperate they are. They come off as lazy. Well, and the common sentiment I'm hearing from people, just, again, people from back home, family, people that are Republicans, they're patriots. And I kind of share this with you actually a bit, is the thing they're saying isn't they're not attacking Trump. Like when you go on Twitter, people are just attacking Trump or whatever. What they're saying is almost the opposite, which is if Trump can't get it done, I don't know who can. And I kind of share that sentiment. I'm like if someone has, and it's a positive attribute if you're the president, as stubborn as President Trump is, can still be persuaded to go to war with Iran, I don't know who could like withstand that. I mean, because there's clearly mechanisms, there's lobbies. I mean, you have like the, you know, the Israel lobby, you have the military industrial complex lobby, you know, multiple people lining up for this war to be carried out. I mean, if he couldn't withstand that, you look around, you're like, well, the bench isn't going to withstand that. So that's the sentiment I'm hearing from people is not like, you know, Trump's betrayed us or whatever. They're just like more disappointed, but it's kind of what they expected from government, which is depressing. They didn't expect good governance. And they're like, if Trump couldn't do it, I don't know who could. Here's the Kalshi balance of power for the midterms. Democrat sweep is at 61%. The chance of a Republican holding the Senate is, the prediction marks it at 32. It improved a little bit. It dropped and it went back up maybe a point or two. Somehow there's a Republican sweep at 8%. I ain't taking that bet. Yeah, well, the Democrat Senate dip was because of the Peralta tapes. Or the Peralta files. And I can't stand the, listen, I understand for the Trump diehards and the Republican diehards, they're like, we got to maintain morale and say that we're going to get it, we're going to win. But at the same time, dude, the people that are like, no way, this is all fake. The media is lying and Trump's going to win. I'm just like, the economy is bad. Everybody knows it. Starbucks is closing locations. I mean, that should be screaming in your face. We're seeing more things like this. But people look to certain vanity metrics. They're like, I don't know. Things are looking pretty good. No. What is the debt? The interest on the debt is the third highest expense has been for like the past year. We're at $40 trillion. Now, a lot of people don't know what that means. Let me break it down for you. The government is going to have to spend most of its money to pay the interest on the debt instead of funding services. So we are about to get hit by a tsunami. And whoever's in power at the time, they're going to face. They're going to. Feel the brunt of that to their face. Democrats will use it right now to take power. Republicans only real opportunity is procedure winning in courtrooms and changing the rules. Well, and to your first point you made about people kind of just hand waving away the polls. I'm like, I've seen this story before. I don't know if people remember the 2022 midterms when everyone was saying, OK, the polling saying the Democrats are going to pick up Pennsylvania. They're going to they're going to keep the Senate or whatever. But the you know, but the Republicans. They're going to win the House. Well, actually, the vibes. It feels like the Republicans are going to wear just a red wave incoming. You know, it feels like that. And then Election Day came and the polls were like broadly correct. I mean, obviously, they were going to screw up a few races. But like, again, data did kind of trump vibes in that instance. And then. So, yeah. So people are like saying it's like a repeat of 2022. Everyone's like, OK, look, the polling says we're underwater, but the vibes are with the Republicans. And I'm like, first of all, I don't know if the vibes are. I mean, clearly the vibes are not there. Republicans are all because in 2022, I was like, I kind of got that feeling of like, OK, everyone really hates Biden, whatever. And then additionally, the polling's worse than it was in the last two midterm cycles for Republicans. So I'm just not seeing it. You know, again, I would I would be delighted to be proven wrong. But, yeah, I just don't understand. I don't understand this impetus to be like, well, vibes are going to triumph over the data that we have. No, that's not happening at all. Like I said, I mean, like I said. At the end of the day, if you've got a bad economy, the public takes it out on the party in power. That's all there is to it. That's the that's that is like the iron law of elections. If there is a bad economy, the people will take it out on the people in power, no matter whether it was their fault or not. Right. Like if if if the Democrats were in power right now, if they had the White House and the the the House and the Senate, people would be all, you know, all. Yeah. They would be all in in for voting for Republicans. It's just people vote with their pocketbooks. It's kitchen table issues before anything. It's the economy. Stupid. The most important thing for any politician is making sure that the economy is working for the American people because the laws that they pass generally they don't affect everybody. They affect certain groups of people here and there. Some people get a little bit of a bump. Some people will get a little bit of a hit. But most laws that the federal government passes. Yeah. They don't affect people or the people that do get affected. They're not aware of how they're being affected. But the cost of gas affects everybody. The prices at the grocery store affect everybody. So, I mean, I don't know how to say it any more simple. It is the economy. It's always been the economy. Well, and again, I think because so many people understand the state of politics, it's an enthusiasm thing. So for the culture warrior voters, the Republicans did not deliver a little bit again. You know, like Tate says, the land acknowledgement. Like Trump did good things, immigration, USAID. But the day-to-day stuff, it feels like we had this Republican trifecta and nothing's changed. You know, again, I understand. USAID is gone, immigration stuff. But culturally, we're not seeing these victories. We are not seeing the arrests that we want to see. You know, I think Cash Patel is doing a great job. He's doing a lot of, you know, boots on the ground, street-level crime. Criminal law enforcement. So he's getting a lot of criminals off the streets. But people wanted to see a resolution to this 10-year conflict. And we didn't get it. So maybe it's just not going to happen. Last night, Dr. Elfenbein was on. And he went through his story about what happened to him during COVID and stuff. And it was a really good reminder of just how incredibly bad the government is. How bad the government behaved in regards to COVID. The things that the government did. And, you know, it reminded me of all the people that are really upset about the fact that there's nothing that's going to happen to anyone. And all of the horrible, horrible stories that you hear about people having to watch family members die from a different room. Looking at them through the window. He was -- Ron was talking about, you know, kids that were terminal. Kids that passed away and their parents couldn't go in the room. The people that are upset about the COVID stuff. And knowing that nothing's going to happen. That Biden's pardoned everybody involved for, you know, whatever, 15 years prior. I mean, it's no surprise that people are pissed off that nothing's done. Let's jump to the story from the New York Times. An army of paid creators is carpeting the web with political content. It's all fake. And we've pointed this out on the show several times. You'll go on Instagram or TikTok and you will see the same video 5,000 times. And there's two reasons for this. The first is a lot of it's paid. So we actually got a confession from some guy. This same account drew yaps and talk about my experience with it. And it's really fucked up, though, because you have so much stuff on your reels that isn't labeled as ads. It's just people making videos about stuff. That really is an ad. And especially when it starts to become something in, like, the political realm, you know, talking about, oh, like, prices are super expensive here. Like, they always wanted us to mention the local policymakers, you know, not affecting or, like, not creating the change about it and, like, calling them greedy and shit. And it's really, really fucked up when you think about it that the amount of brainwashing that is taking place in social media. I was considering if I really wanted to do this or not. But I'm bored, so I figured I might as well just make this video. So I'm going to be addressing the videos on my account. So everything I posted on the account drew yaps. All of it was paid for. So it was user generated content. It was through this app, which they basically paid me retainer and then any view bonuses to pay for it. And then I posted it on my account. media. This is how they end the decentralized media system, the independent media system. Everyone's going to be like, I just can't, because every time you open up Instagram or YouTube, all you hear is someone screaming at the top of their lungs like nails on a chalkboard, so they tune out. It's this. This is why I can't stand Instagram. I go on, I go on, and this is why, you know, I mentioned this a couple weeks ago. I've been watching all these liberal commenters. I dove in. I started seeing so many of the same videos. I started intentionally going to their profiles and looking at their videos to see what they were doing, and then seeing how many of them are producing identical videos. It's just, you open the Instagram app, and what do you get? Some person is literally screaming at the top of their lungs. No, no, no. No, no, no. I don't say figuratively. Literally. I can't tell you how many videos I've seen where people desperate for attention, instead of just saying, you know, guys, I was reading the news here. here's how I feel. The video's open with them saying something like, those fat, inbred mega, and I'm like, oh my God. There's literally one video where a guy's driving his car, and all he does is screams his opinion. The Republicans! How many of those exist? It's endless. Tim, there's one more thing, though, that you left out from this article. AI allows you to record at one time, upload 70 avatars, and make 70 different versions of the exact same video with the exact same talk track. One is a black woman, one is a white guy, one is a Chinese gal, you name it. One video, 70 versions of it, all saying the exact same thing. And that's one of the scariest parts of that article. Yeah, it's hard to go a day without talking about AI, just because it's already having a massive impact. Even people that don't realize it, I think I've said this before on the show, but like, used to be people would go and they would type in something on Google because they're looking for something. But now that you type in your question to the Google Spacebar, or into the Google Search Bar, and it'll give you the answer. Everybody's using AI. We didn't leave it out, actually. We have this video here. I'll show you just a few seconds of this. To Jesus Christ, Charlie Kirk, who is. Let me jump ahead, because I don't know what the point of that intro part is. Weird ways. Just address it when it happens, as soon as you can, safely. Amen. I'm building a weather app that will show the weather three-dimensionally, because people are like, oh, a hurricane's a sphere. It's a flat plane of. No, it's a big sphere that's undulating and twisting over the earth and sucking up water like a sponge over rivers and lakes. So I'm building an app with AI that's going to show you that. It will be live one of these days. And many of you are like, Tim, why did you play that clip of Ian? Because I want to show you this clip from our sister show, Gymcast URL, where Aaron was going on a rant about the weather, and Bill's reaction was priceless. I'm building a weather app. I'm excited. I feel terrible. I ruined the punchline on you. Sorry for jumping on that. No, you're good. It's true. So I took this clip that I saw Phil post that was absolutely hilarious, and I ran it through. It's Higgs Field Genjutsu, is the AI app, and it transformed Ian into this redheaded woman and Phil into Bill. I didn't tell it to change Phil. What I did was I chose this as a reference video and chose an AI-generated woman character to make Ian, and it just made Phil a different person. What is that phone thing? It's the view counter in the bottom right. Yeah, it turns into a microphone or something. Like, what is that? I don't even know what's going on. Ian Higgs Field has some technical deficiencies. Well, I probably didn't understand what it was, but your point is exactly why I brought that up. One person records one video, then loads it into an AI, and then also uploads 15 different fake AI-generated people, clicks render, and they get just instantly 15 different versions of the same AI. Same political talking point, and they can spam blast it out through a network of accounts that. These accounts exist where people will. They'll just post random video content. They'll re-upload news clips just to get a base following and to exist. That way, when they get a campaign, hey, we'll give you 10 bucks to play this video. They will play the video, and then all of a sudden you go on Instagram and you see 700 people all being like, I'm voting Democrat. So look, you guys, you know, I'm going to be honest with you. I am, uh, it's demoralizing. It really, really is. If people are really just not smart enough, then what is the argument against, quote, some people must work at McDonald's? I mean, look, uh, Aspen Gold, there isn't one. Aspen Gold likes to describe it as like, there are some people that are best suited to make big rocks into little rocks, right? Just, there's not really anything that you can train them to do. Um. So then why try to do a show to inform a population when the population is incapable of being informed? Well, the reason to do a show is because there are enough, there are enough people that can be informed and that can be motivated to go out and vote. And the best idea, well, no voting doesn't matter. If we're dealing with this and this is the basis by which people are choosing their leaders, then the best thing to do would be to change this show into a finance show so that people smart enough to try and suss out what's true or not can make sound financial investments and we all get rich and then with money can have influence over the system. Just pay for, uh, pay for AI creators. Um. No, that's illegal. This is what's really crazy. That's illegal? It is illegal to do an ad without, without, uh, it's a, it's a, it's, it borders some of its criminal depending on how and why you did it. Typically, though, anytime you're paid to promote something or post a video, you have to disclose it. Otherwise, it's a civil, civil violation. So it's, it's like, it is illegal, but the penalty is a fine or something. So that's what that guy was saying. That they're not disclosing that these are ads. And indeed, all of these are advertisements or fake. Because otherwise, imagine what would happen if, I don't know, I offered to pay people to just make a bunch of videos quoting Tim Kass and talking about how great the show is. Yeah. They would have to disclose that they were paid to do it. But this is the world we live in. So yeah, maybe let's, let's, let's just go over financial strategy and sound ways to make money. Well, you said you're de, you said you're depressed, but I, I do think- I didn't say depressed, I said, uh, demoralized. Demoralized. Sorry, sorry, I used the wrong word. But demoralized, I do think there is one thing that we need to focus on, especially the conservatives that we haven't done enough of since COVID. It's on education. You need to teach these kids critical thinking skills. And COVID woke us up about what was going on in the classrooms or the lack of classrooms because kids were at home. And I feel like we lost a lot of that over these last six years. And if, if we're ever going to have a populace that doesn't make you demoralized, it's going to be because they actually have these critical thinking skills. We got to bring that back. Well, I mean, I know what you're saying, but like, I guess, you know, when, when you've got enough of the accounts or enough accounts that are posting the same thing, you'd think that people, because again, these are exactly the same narrations. It's just a different person posting it. You'd think that people would realize, I'm not really, they don't consciously know that these are the same things. It's just reinforcing the idea. You know, it's not like they're, they're trying to, you know, sway people. They're trying to make sure people kind of have ingrained in them. Oh, the Democrats are good. The Republicans are bad or whatever the narrative is, right? If there were Republicans doing it, it would be Republicans, good Democrats, bad. So I don't know that critical thinking would actually solve it because this isn't about having something that you think it's reinforcing a narrative that you already believe. I feel like the people that fell for it before are just the same ones that would fall for it again. I want to read this super chat. You know, we normally save it, but this one's relevant. Main X community says, don't be demoralized. We're all here and want to destroy the DSA, destroy the global news access, Russia, Iran, China, Venezuela, Cuba, et cetera. Luke R and AJ are crying nonstop about Iran, but crippling Iran is key. Like we did with Maduro, Cuba, Greenland, new gen cartel fight. The reason I wanted to read that is the demoralization in political power is not going to be found in voting for these people. And the people who are voting for these members of Congress, be it Democrat or Republican, don't even know what they're voting for or why are ridiculously and easily manipulated. They get extremely angry and many of them get violent. But the real means of influence and power, influence and power is money. So the best thing for our audience is not for us to discuss the goings on of the world, but to discuss the goings on of the world in the context of who you shorten, who you buy so that we all get rich. Then we have influence over the system. Yeah, money, money dictates policy more than the votes ever did. And we've got the studies from numerous, numerous institutions. I think one of the more recent ones in the past 10 years showed that I forgot, I forgot how they put it, but like 60% of legislation came at the request of a number of groups, high profile, special interest groups, lobbying groups, and the polls of the the american people as to what they wanted to happen had almost no impact on the voting record of members of congress yeah the the the but but it makes sense if you're in congress are you going to listen to these people they're going like did you know that it's more expensive to live in texas than la and and you're a member of congress being like this is a chicken yeah they're balking at me i cannot take their advice as to how i'm going to run government no i mean like the save act is a prime example of that something that the american people you know overwhelmingly want and yet they still can't pass it and they probably won't pass it because their attitude is you think we we want these people in control yeah right members of congress are probably like nah it's better off that the people are stupid and impotent i think it's i think it's probably members of the senate that are more like that i think i think congress people are more grounded because they're shorter terms that's where i mean look everyone knows congress is where the clown show happens right you get weirdos in congress on a regular basis you don't generally really get weirdos in the senate they look at themselves as you know more deliberative they're they kind of have their nose in the air they look at themselves as the upper chamber they're the upper chamber of of of the the government and and so you get the weirdos in congress yo look man i look at this and i just see the philosophical zombie which in in layman's terms is npcs yeah but like i said this is all about reinforcing a narrative that people already believe if people don't like this they sweep past right if you're that's not what i'm talking about i'm talking about is each and every one of these people who lacks the cognitive faculties to do a google search oh to try and suss out what is or is not right see an advertisement for a thirty dollar video to to post thirty dollars to post some statement and they go oh i'll do that wow there's no there's no thought to what they're doing or why they're doing it and i wonder if these people have internal monologues it's very debatable the pressing question i mean you know to be honest um i i did an interview with flat earth dave and uh i told him i i am not so egotistically attached to my beliefs that i would be offended by anything you say you can tell me that the earth is a gigantic macaroni noodle and i'd be like that's a weird thing to think i don't think so but you know i'm not mad that you think it but they're but these are the kind of people that get angry like they don't think when you're like actually trump did not call nazis very fine people and they don't think they're angry and they don't think they're angry and they don't they get they get physically agitated and they feel anger and and pain and i i think it's just they they lack the capabilities i i wonder if that really is the defining trait of the quote unquote npc or the philosophical zombie an individual who cannot deviate from that track and they get angry if someone tries to make them yeah well i'm curious where you're seeing all these stories about people basically outsourcing their thinking to an llm and if that's going to aspirate this issue of okay we can't quite put it for ai now let's go yeah well i've maintained the position most of these people probably should just take the buyout whenever that's what i'm saying like kind of unironic waits all you can want and more yeah like if we could just silo grant it's gonna be tough with democracy but you know once we get rid of that and all that then we can we'll vote for it in two seconds then you know and they're removed from the equation democratically speaking then you can just silo them away and they're like goon chambers or whatever and then like the ten percent you know i was thinking i was like you know the jehovah's witness were kind of cooking when they're like maybe there's only like 144 000 people that are like in sold i'm like you know i've seen them every time i see them on the street in new york i'm like what are these jack wagons well i go by them i'm like what's your what's your pamphlet say again you know 144 000 yeah if you remove athletes from wikipedia's notable people you are left with around that many people that are considered notable oh you're on there i'm not so i guess jury's out if i'm insulted i'm ginger anyway but i think that proves you're not so yeah just fighting uphill battle except it'll be easier for you you know i mean look like if ai can serve up you know something exceptional then i'd probably take the buyout take the buyout yeah i mean i got no problem with video games right so if they came out with ai generated video games with like a a neural link headband no surgeries but if they had a headband you could put on and then you could play gta but it felt real oh i'd probably play like i gotta be honest i don't play a lot of video games maybe an hour every week maybe if if world of warcraft forever is coming out we have to talk about this because it really does it really does matter culturally and i'm not i'm not joking um i would consider playing world of warcraft you know a couple hours with friends just to hang out and have a good time but that's not the buyout playing video games sometimes is totally fine the buyout is when you plug yourself into the goon chamber 24 7 like the buyout but like i'm saying like i want to play fifa but i want to be like like pitch side i want to be the manager i want to go in the locker room like i'm give the players a pep talk and like be the manager dude i'll like go out dude i'll go crazy when we get that or like yeah 2k and you can actually like dunk for like white guys i mean that i think that's how you pick off most because everyone's like although i think you pick off the white guys it's like with 2k it's like hey dude you're gonna be like like throwing it down at magic square garden i'll be like dude yeah i can dunk sign me up yeah i mean look it's an easy yes for me i don't know i can't speak on behalf of like all white boys look activision activision just got the reins of the halo franchise so we'll see where that goes because uh you know super soldiers are always cool in my book imagine you get the b one yeah right yeah okay or i'd rather be a free thinker overrated no thanks yeah it's a drag um but i look i mean i don't know that uh i don't know that technology is the the answer here though honestly um it's causing a lot of the problems i mean i'm i'm not particularly a big fan of universal information franchisement generally just because i don't think that the the average people are actually that interested beyond you know the economy and the government does have influence over the economy but they don't have like you know like absolute control over the economy there's a lot of different factors i think we should get rid of the we probably should get rid of the federal reserve and allow the market to handle it and we probably have better results and then we wouldn't have to have the government being so involved in our lives i want to jump to this story which matters to each and every one of you oh so much world of warcraft forever now many of you may be saying uh i don't care about video games it's not about video games this is about our inability to grow up and to move on our demand for nostalgia and what the future will do to us so let me just start by saying this there are numerous channels on instagram and youtube they make ai generated 80s and 90s videos some do too 2000 some do uh 70s some do 60s and they are targeting people who grew up in these periods or who had their family and they they yearn for this time so the 90s ones i get sent these all the time what because i grew up in the 90s and there's the kitchen it looks just like my friend's kitchen there's wallpaper who still had wallpaper you can see the they're walking the blockbuster you can see the kids in the parking lot of the blockbuster at night eating candy and everybody just wishes oh man the 90s we want to go back yes us aging millennials want to go back to the 90s this is where it comes to world of warcraft forever i'm a big world of warcraft fan where i was i played it back in the early days i was uh a high rank pvp i played rogue for the most part but i had i had a end game rogue and uh and priest those are the classes that i played i had a healer you know it was fun and i played until i think legion was the last expansion i played which was a long time ago was that like 10 years ago now yep i tried loading all the discs onto my computer and it was just too much memory well so here's the thing i got into it they there was a uh a server was launched for world world of warcraft world of warcraft the vanilla meaning the first game and it was massively popular everybody loves it blizzard gets it shut down and launches warcraft classic world of warcraft classic so you can go play the original game and it was fun for a while and then they started rolling out the expansions again and i'm not interested in the expansion so i played classic for a little bit and then they were like we're gonna do burning crusade i can't remember what happened but i'm like i'm out world of warcraft forever basically goes back 20 years to the original game from 20 years ago to bring back the original game they were much bigger back then the reason why i think this story matters given the choice everybody takes the buyout if you gave someone an opportunity and said we're gonna plug your brain into the matrix and you will be 16 and it will be the late 90s early 2000s all over again they would say yes now not everybody some people have kids and they're like i might go on the weekends and hang out with friends but a lot of people will choose to go back 20 years to relive those moments here's what's crazy times are supposed to change now i don't think it's supposed to change so rapidly the way they are now but we weren't able to go back in time and relive our our nostalgia we just told stories about it to the kids ah you know when i was a kid but with the world turning digital with us spending so much of our time in virtual realities even if it's third person soon it will be first person like actual immersive people are going to choose to stay locked in their fake realities forever to relive the glory days yeah did you see the newsweek piece but they like basically were talking about how toys r us is now setting up their stores or something like that and they're like oh my god we're going to relive the glory days and they're like oh my god we're going to relive the glory days yeah they're like oh my god we're going to relive the glory days yeah they're like oh my god we're going to relive the glory days yeah they're like oh my god we're going to relive the glory days yeah we're going to relive the glory days yeah we're going to relive the glory days yeah we're going to relive the glory days yeah we're going to relive the glory days And they asked all these market researchers and they were like, Yeah, this is entirely adults. And there was one, I think, I can't remember the name of the market research firm, but they're like top shelf. This is who you go to for market research. They said 55% of the toy market is now adults. What? So you have Toys R Us pretty much entirely for adults. The entire toy market writ large is majority for adults. I'm like, dude, it's not Arrested Development. These people have grown up in some sense, but they're just the nostalgia thing. It's gone beyond like, oh, yeah, that song reminds me of that. No, it's like refusal to accept anything new. What kind of toys are they selling to adults? Funko Pops, Legos. Oh, my God. There's a lot of people that still buy action figures, and they save them thinking, oh, in 20 years, these things are going to be worth 40 years. They're going to be worth something. It's like, bro, no, they're not. People forget that the reason why an original Boba Fett in the – card or whatever, like still in the package, the reason it's so much money is because there's like three of them in existence. In the 90s, like the late 90s when the new Star Wars movies came out, people were buying up all the Darth Mauls and stuff. Oh, these are going to be worth so much money. It's like, look, man, there's probably 20,000 of those in mint condition hidden around the U.S. They're probably worth like $15 a piece. Because no one saved the original Star Wars ones, and they all disappear. Because kids bought them, and they played with them. Right. And then when the next one came out, everyone's like, don't play with them. Yeah. But, man, I think I had probably like 12 shadowless first edition Charizards. Dude, I have so many misprints like – Pokemon cards? You still have them? Yes, and they're in really good condition. What are they worth? I don't know. Probably a stupid amount. We got Charizards? Oh, yeah. One Charizard could be like $250,000. See, I thought that, but like I could not find anyone actually willing to buy it online. And on the internet. It says it's worth something, but – That's the little die cast. That's NASCARs. I mean, I grew up loving NASCAR, but I would immediately rip the packaging open and race them around, and I'm like looking on eBay now, and they're worth like $100. A PSA – wow, this is crazy. An ungraded Charizard is worth $9,000. Wow. A PSA 10 is $335,000. Yeah, the sports – I mean, like baseball cards and stuff. I mean, they've always been collectors, but like the market right now is insane. Is it really? There's like – I can't remember the name of the app. There's like a whole app that's just for trading card sales, and people do like live stream auctions and stuff. I'm like, what is going on? Maybe because people aren't interested in art anymore, so they're storing their wealth and, you know, Sammy Sosa cards or something. I don't know. You know what I hope? I hope literally everybody who played World of Warcraft back in 06 signs up again, because we desperately need a unified culture. We desperately need – I was talking about this earlier today with some friends. Like, would we be better off – it's not saying I know. I'm asking you guys a literal question. Would we be better off with no independent media? Yeah. Only major network news? If it meant that everybody in this country was on the same page with disagreements here and there, but for the most part, a monoculture, no weirdo extremists demanding the lesbian bar wear masks? We would be better off without weirdo extremists. I mean, we've got a monoculture. But the point is, if you have one or the other, you have the option of, you know, a small network of channels. Maybe there's 30 channels. Everyone kind of agrees. No one's really extreme. There's no media broadcasting for wacko lunacy. Or we have the internet, which is just chaos in every direction and good luck who wins. No, I think in a weird way, the main problem now – like, for example, part of the reason monoculture stuck was because the country was a lot more homogenous. Where now, if you abolish that and we went back to network television, I actually think the – like, the ethnic divisions in the country would get worse because, like, BET would be able to – like, right now among young people, there is a monoculture in the sense of they share a lot of the same sense of humanity. They share a lot of the same sense of humor through memes and whatnot. And I think if it went back to network programming, you would probably see, like, ethnic siloing again. I think that would be pretty likely. You would have, like, BET channels and all that. And you would have, like, Telemundo and all that. Like, it would – I think it would actually revert back to how it was. But now the country is far less homogenous. There's a lot more Hispanic people, a lot more Asian people, et cetera. I think, for one, it would make it even more impossible for immigrants to assimilate. I – Yeah. I was at the NAB, National Association for Broadcasters Conference, like, 10 years ago in Amsterdam. And I was talking to these guys who were comedian. I said, fame is over. I said, fame as we know it is over. And they disagreed, and they were like, there's always going to be, you know, like, insert famous football star. And I was like, no, no, no, no, no, no. There will be some fame. I'm saying, like, the general mechanisms of being famous are over because of social media and the internet. Everyone's going to be a little bit famous in various areas. Because media has decentralized. When there was – when there were three TV channels, 20 million people are watching one episode of the same show. Yeah. Everybody recognizes you everywhere you go. But now it's a big deal when, you know, Fox News is getting 100,000 viewers in the key demo. That's it. That – 100,000. Well, we can't mint stars at large. Even athletics, like you brought up, that's somewhere we just can't mint stars anymore. I mean, this has been the big problem for the major. The major sports leagues and, you know, the soccer world broadly. Like, for example, Lionel Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, these are household names. Everyone, you know, superstars. They can't, you know, walk down the street without getting mobbed. Now the greatest player in the world is like, you know, Kylian Mbappe. Nothing comes to mind. He doesn't really have that gravitas or aura like those guys did. Same problem. The NBA can't mint a new LeBron. The NFL can't mint a new Tom Brady. Like, there's stars that came about because they were a monoculture era. They were going on, you know, the – They were going on, you know, the Good Morning America or whatever. It was a huge deal. Where now these new stars are coming through and they just don't have, like, the aura or gravitas. And, yeah, part of that's monoculture was able to amplify their fame. But secondarily, people have too much access to these guys now. Where it's like now you can go to their Instagram and see what they're up to and their Twitter. And they feel a lot more approachable. They feel a lot more like real people. When what made Tom Brady Tom Brady is that he had this just kind of like, I wonder what's going on. Like, he's just in his own world. Now that Tom Brady – Now that Tom Brady is in this era, people think he's, like, cringe now because he's, like, everywhere. And it's like part of what made you so, you know, had that allure to you is that you were kind of felt unapproachable. Like, you really were this just unbelievable superstar. And some people could make an argument that's a good thing. But what I'm just trying to get at is, like, these sports leagues can't come up with a new LeBron. Like, okay, who's the best player? What, Wemba Nyama? It's like that – He just doesn't have the aura like LeBron does. Does he? By the time LeBron was 25, he was already, you know, a household name, and every kid had a poster on his wall of LeBron. Does this guy have the same kind of talent that LeBron had, though? Yeah, Wemba Nyama is, like, a just generational – I think he would be the most even one-to-one swap because, you know, Messi was special. People consider him the consensus goat. We're Mbappe. It's like, well, that's always going to be tough to chase. But, yeah, Wemba Nyama is – I mean, obviously, LeBron had a 20-something-year career. But Wemba Nyama has that skill set of, like, this should be a guy – and he's, like, a freak of nature. He's, like, 7'3", but you're a point guard. You can shoot threes. So it's, like, this is, like, an exceptional talent that, if he existed 20 years ago, you know, would have been everywhere. You know, he'd be on every billboard in America and whatnot. And so some people have said – Or Reeves boxes. Yeah, I mean, and some people are, like, oh, well, it's because he's French. They have trouble marketing him. And I'm, like, dude, Yao Ming was a superstar, and he couldn't speak English. So it's, like, that doesn't have anything to do with it. Micro fame. It's actually interesting because it's kind of turning back into the way things were before TV. You know, if you were well-known in your – In your town, that's just it. You know, it's, like, the locals all knew the legend of Tate. You know what I mean? But then if you went to the big city, people would be, like, who? Yeah, it's, like, the local Dallas, Texas music scene. Like, you're famous. You play a lot of shows there, but, like, outside the state. Well, but it sucks because we've – And, Phil, you could probably speak to this with authority. Is even, like, regional scenes as they existed don't exist anymore because it's, like, a rock band from Boston and a rock band from Portland, Oregon or something are going to have probably the same sound. Same thing with comedians, you know? I can't remember. We had a comedian here recently, and he was – We were talking about this, how, like, a Boston comic, nothing would land in Dallas and vice versa, where now Shane Gillis can sell at a stadium basically anywhere in the country. Yeah, I mean, like, when I was coming up in the music scene, like, especially, like, in New England, like, there was this whole thing that was going on that was really the Northeast, right? Like, it was called the New Wave of American Heavy Metal, and it was basically – it was – Lamb of God was from Virginia. God Forbid was from New Jersey. And then everybody else was from Massachusetts, right? Like, Shadows Fall, All That Remains, Unearth, Killswitch Engage, The Acacia Strain, all these new bands, and we shared – we weren't exactly the same, but we shared a similar sound. And the only other place kind of in the country that had anything like that that was going on was Southern California, and it was similar sound, just they wore makeup, right? Like, that was obviously because it's L.A., right? So there's Bleeding Through, there was Avenged Sevenfold, there was, you know, a handful of bands. I think As I Lay Dying probably didn't wear makeup, but they were one of the bands that was coming up, and you wouldn't – I don't know that you'd see that now because, you know, when we were coming up, late 90s, early aughts, like, the Internet hadn't gotten into everyone's pocket yet. Like, it existed, and you could put stuff on the Internet and listen to it, but there wasn't YouTube, there wasn't Spotify, there wasn't, like, the monoculture like we talk about. It was, like, laying the foundation for that. So the sound that we had did start to filter through the rest of the country, And it kind of, for lack of a better term, it took the country at least the metal scene by storm because everything was new metal before we got on the got up there and then there was the underground and you see it with like country and rap two genres that are historically like very geographically stratified right i mean like infamously east coast west coast but like there was a very distinctive sound and then you had like the southern scene or whatever country was the same thing like artists from texas and artists from alabama it might have been two different genres i mean it was so vastly different and then you think of like these regional scenes that existed like i mean i when i was a kid i was a big fan of like midwestern emo and that was like you look up all these bands they were all from illinois and indiana and michigan and whatnot so it's like missouri missouri yeah we've just completely lost this ability for like certain scenes to be contained like seattle grunge just came almost purely out of seattle and like obviously it took the country by storm yep but if you like that kind of music and what 1991 you'd have to go up to seattle to hear it i'm gonna kind of just deviate and go back a little bit to the warcraft thing i want to make a few points we have to go back i remember uh playing vanilla warcraft and it was difficult it wasn't like super difficult it was fun but i remember player versus player we call it pvp for those who don't know what that means i had uh the field marshal gear in pvp pvp i loved alteric valley i played like crazy and i i got the pvp rank field marshal bought all the gear i was like let's go it was kind of hard to get uh it was very difficult and if you got it you got good gear that was really great in the pvp setting raids if you wanted to go on like a massive raid with 20 or 40 players you needed friends you needed a guild that's how it was done we'd call friends we had i think we used team speak i don't know there's ventrilo i think was one of them i can't remember vent and i'd log on and i'd look to see who of my friends were online because if you wanted to do a dungeon you needed people it was actually kind of difficult you had to make friends you'd go into i played alliance i know a lot of people did it and you put looking for group you know dead mines when you were when you were a new player you want to do the little dungeon and then you'd make a group of friends and you'd all talk and be like all right let's go do this i remember playing legion you want to do a raid you click the button and then it would be like you're in the queue next thing i knew i was instantly transported to a dungeon fighting a dragon i had no idea what was going on knew none of the people they're all just spamming their attacks and nothing was happening i was confused it was boring in the early days you want to do a raid you had to know everybody you're on vent you hear the guild leader being like okay guys if you're dps we need you to go over here when the boss stomps his foot you have to back up healers won't be able to heal you and if too many of you die we're going to wipe that was fun being part of this big group on a mission and then they were like nah just click a button that's why i stopped playing at legion because everything was just so damn boring everything has gotten too stupid these companies so i bring this up because the article says it was built for retail players i'm sorry it was not built for retail players what does that mean well back in the day the retail player wanted a challenge back in the day things were hard to do today they're like no the retail players are the people who can't think properly who need to click a button one time to do a thing they have tried so hard to make everything for the lowest common denominator they've ripped the soul out of games and they're just stupid i'll give you another example i was a huge fan of marvel versus me i was a huge fan of marvel versus me i was a huge fan of marvel versus me i was a huge fan of marvel versus capcom 2 the greatest fighting game ever made for those that are familiar the combos required you to do a series of different punches you you press uh down up super jump land on them hit a bunch of buttons then jump again and you can air combo it was an amazing game and then i remember when i bought marvel versus capcom infinite i was like oh let's go like the new three it's 3d now one button but you just press one button over and over again and it even jumped automatically for you and i said i threw it away i don't want to play this is boring we need to bring back difficult things yeah people need to experience hardships and challenges and i think they want it i'm hoping when they bring back world of warcraft forever so i saw someone chat saying it's basically a remake i hope when they bring this back it is hard and if you want to play the game you need friends and you have to look for friends and that's part of the challenge and i think that we should be doing this and i'm going to do it because i got a video game i was talking my brother about it earlier he's like shouldn't we do like insert feature to make it easier i was like no make it harder make the game confusing and difficult with no instruction manual if you want to play and figure it out you can look it up online you can watch a youtube tutorial that's the other thing too those online videos explaining games were community building and everything's become so dumbed down that people open the game and they're either bored because they're no challenge or they're too stupid to play it anyway the same thing happened to runescape actually very similar to this in 2007 they took away the pvp version uh it was called the wilderness and then everyone was like really pissed because like you can't you know hurt you can't kill another player to get their loot or whatever anymore uh and then they replaced it with like castle wars or something ridiculous where you just drop in and then like you're just with a bunch of random people you don't know fighting a thing for for no actual gain so they recreated runescape as 2007 scape and now everyone plays that still which is kind of like the prime era of gaming because like 2007 i would have been sick i was like grinding webkinz pretty much that was that was my world of warcraft was like webkinz i figured you for a maple story kind of guy no dude i was just tearing it up on webkinz and it was awesome um my mom probably cost her so much money at hallmark to buy all those stuffed dogs or whatever but i gotta have to been like the michael vick of webkinz because they all are dead by now here you go guys this one's for you goober cheap you i haven't listened to it yet so 1990s please the buyout take it it's waiting for you it says goober on his shirt everybody's roller skating wow that's pretty compelling i told it to make a commercial for the buyout and it said goon chamber but it wouldn't let me do it it kept telling it kept rejecting it under a scent like community guidelines or it was like no so i said all right goober chamber and then i was like okay he's where it says goober on his shirt there you go the buyout take it it's waiting for you it's right there i was listening to um his name is lewis brindley he like founded the yogs cast which was like this huge like gaming youtube channel when i was growing up and he was talking about like how because like when they started out they had like 15 guys that were on the channel he was talking how they started out and he said it was from world of warcraft they had a guild like 100 guys in it and i was like that's crazy imagine having to organize 100 guys and then he was going on to explain no all 100 players were playing at the same time and they were all on the same voice channel and i'm like that sounds so electric to have like 100 dudes that like half of them are just friends of friends or whatever and everyone's on voice chat just rolling in like that sounds like the most fun experience possible because like every game now it's like maxed out at like four players in the lobby i mean yeah four players in the lobby that was kind of like that's kind of like but like a war zone fortnite and stuff yeah i mean when i was playing a lot of xbox live playing a lot of halo 2 and halo 3 like that was like the peak for me and it's you know it was four on four you could do big big team battle but slayer was the best you're just playing with four people you get the same dudes everybody knows kind of how they play and everyone knows kind of what their role was and you could play all night long and you could play all night long and you could play all night long get home from like i was probably working at the mall or whatever but get home and jump on xbox live and play for yeah you know till five in the morning and it was like it was great you know this is in the odds well i was once well you're just going to say one of the things is ironic about all of this is the guy started my venture fund with his name is rich melman he started electronic arts in 1982 as in madden he literally started the company and in 82 when he started the company he had a theory which was people will want interactivity more than entertainment passively watching television and film yep and he was right for a long time until basically what you're saying he's not right anymore because now we've gone back from things being hard and interactive and interesting and social to a spot where you hit the button unplug and just go watch yeah i mean a part of me thinks that it's the wrong people got in charge of video games like they yeah because there was there was a time where video games were kind of exclusive right they like would the people that were playing video games wanted a challenge the people that were playing video games wanted them to be hard they didn't want to be able to sit down and just play through a you know a 15-hour campaign in a day they wanted the actual challenge and as video games became more popular and certain people that shouldn't have been in charge of video game studios got in charge of video game studios they started saying well these these stories and these video games are or these video games are actually more about stories and we want to tell the stories that we want to tell and it's it's not supposed to be hard because people want to find out how this story concludes they want to play the game so we're going to make it so that way everybody can play because if everyone can play and everyone can do well then we'll actually open the market to more people and more people will feel like they can they can you know enjoy our product but the problem is the people that really love the product didn't want that so they stopped playing the games and the people that start that came in and loved the like loved playing video games because they were easy and they got the grat the you know gratification of 50 finishing it like that changed what gaming was and now i think you're seeing the people that started the video games when video games were more exclusive have basically moved away from video games significantly and and it it shows in the in the sales that the core audience was the majority that the people that were you know just wanted to play through the video game they weren't logging on all the time with their friends they'd play through the video game they wouldn't play anymore they wouldn't be going into the store to buy the you know the the the new skins or whatever so they were you know they the the the what's it called the studios kept putting out all these different skins and stuff to try and collect money from people because they weren't getting the same kind of returns um and you're seeing it now like like i said like i mentioned halo earlier halo just got turned over to act uh to activision that was the game in the aughts right halo 1 halo 2 and halo 3 that that was that was the game in the aughts right halo 1 halo 2 and halo 3 that that was the game in the aughts the it was a cultural one but they had a video they had a commercial in the super bowl the rollout for halo 3 was the biggest ever uh marketing for a video game it was huge and the numbers you know on release were absolutely massive and the game had staying power then the the studio changed went from the original creators to another studio and everything they put out after that just got worse and worse and worse well a huge reason for this was consolidation the number of game studios when you were playing those games when i was playing those games they were all independent they were all around the world and they were five guys in a bedroom and they were really good at the end of the day electronic arts and two or three others i think there's only three or four major game companies left and almost all of those studios that you remember those names of they're inside of one of three or four silos so it's the same consolidation you see in other industries in my opinion is actually what ruined unique and differentiated gaming there's only so many people you can go to to get a game now yeah the the video game i'm talking about in question halo that once they were bought they were created by a company called bungie once they were bought by uh microsoft the games they transferred it over to a company called they basically created a company called 343 studios and everything went down from there yeah uh marathon yep total garbage creepy uncanny valley game destiny was great well their story was dumb as dumb could get because they screwed it up it well no no i mean the game has always been very good it's always been great mechanics great gameplay pvp worked even when destiny 2 came out and they kind of changed it because shotguns were so good in destiny 1 that they made it more like what what is it um scout rifle based yeah it was still okay you know it's like if you had the skills to pay the bills you could play the game and i was fine with it and had a lot of fun and then they were like we're gonna we're gonna end destiny which is still one of the most popular games they started promoting marathon the characters look like weird androgynous mannequins it's very uncanny valley the game bombs now there's rumors they're gonna do a destiny 3 yeah yeah they're although the story is still whack as whack can be they can they could fix it yeah bungie just released a uh something from their their heads of the studio a couple days ago saying look we know we blew it with destiny we're not gonna make destiny go away and they're actually turning back on a lot of the stuff they turn well i mean look money's money right that's right and i you know you know he was loud about it too what i can't for the life of me understand is how they're going to do it they're going to do it they're going to do it they're they've been so miserable at story the whole time it's been like 12 years right is that how like since since they launched destiny one and the story has just never been fixed it's just the wackiest of nonsense yeah i mean the game's fun the witness was supposed to be like the big bad guy at the end it was a little underwhelming um and then that after once you actually fought the witness at the end of like the the storyline like they still kind of tried to limp it on and they needed destiny 3 is what they need well what they need what they needed with destiny 2 and what people want to see is progress and they kept giving us calamity so for those that don't know destiny starts with the calamity of a futuristic human race and it's like the last city and you want to feel like something new is happening but every time i played it was just like oh the humans are losing again you know that's it up cade 6 is dead that was that was he was like the best character too and they killed him off like i didn't understand that at all was it nathan fillion he's out is that why i'm not sure why but the character they lost his voice actor or something but yeah they brought him back didn't they yep they brought him back at the end i don't and again i think it was one of those things where like you know the player base started to dive and they were like we got to do something about this so let's bring cade back you know geez just give us progress all you had to do is establish that they like built a new city and like the humans are coming back and tell us something is happening in the game do something fun yeah but you know they didn't hopefully though uh you know the reason why i'm i'm excited for world of warcraft forever as much as the whole point of us talking about this was that people desperately want to go back in time and relive their youth and they this is what i was thinking about like you couldn't before but now the buyout is coming and this is a good example of it but i am hoping because i think what was it what was their peak like 20 million players some stupid number get as many people as possible into the same place so they can stop viewing each other as others and some people's worldviews are too entrenched you're not going to be able to see each other as others and some people's worldviews are not going to get them to come back together but you can start here and mend those who can be mended and that would be that would be a good thing yeah i think so yeah but the i don't see i don't know i mean i hopefully that they can do something with like i said i was never a world of warcraft player but you know if if the if the studios start paying attention to the actual like the hardcore players and what they want and stop trying to be something for everyone and they're not going to be able to everybody and focus on what they're good at i think that they could the question is do they realize that they that's what they need to do you know if they if they don't actually put the effort into making something that's challenging making something that matters to the the hardcore players the people that'll play you know all night long with their friends and and come back the next day and the next day if they're not focusing on that then they're not making something that people are going to really love they'll make something that people like and i'll play but they'll leave it behind people that play destiny play destiny you know they're not going to be able to do that every week they were grinding playing the same missions they were doing the same stuff people that played halo they played you know they played pvp all the time every night for for months on end and stuff um but if you only have casuals people that play a little bit you're not going to have that that core that base that you need this is the battle of all like our cultural development over the past 20 years kind of exemplifies it the casual versus the you know the hobbyist i guess tourists and they keep trying to make the game for the casual because they're like most people only play a little bit here and there so we need to make sure the person who's playing an hour or two per week can still feel powerful get good items and be involved in the game so they end up making it horribly boring because then there's nothing to achieve there's no dopamine hit i think you know and guys need that dopamine hit look women can have their love is blind married at first sight first sight uh 90 day fiance and they have like 20 versions of each of those shows yeah great give us video games of varying difficulties that we can enjoy with other people you let the chuds be the chuds they like it they'll play let the chads be the chads and the stacy's be the stacy's yeah but i'm talking about everybody's a chad in world of warcraft if you work hard enough you can be you can be a fat miserable misanthrope in real life but if you grind in world of warcraft you can be a level 60 uh field marshal or uh what was it grand uh uh what was the highest rank i don't remember the highest rank i don't know too long like i said i never really played a lot of wow but the let the let the gamers be the the focus of your game the people that are going to be you know coming back night after night playing all the time you know they're the people that that are going to end up paying your bills you know and if you make games that you like but also that focuses on what they want then you'll end up with a lot of people that are going to be happy customers you know a really good example of what we're talking about is the wolverine game yeah where you have you heard about this the wolverine game it's it's been trending massively because there's no actual game i mean sure you can click buttons and stuff but there's a blue line from wolverine to directly to your target so you know what to do and there's a couple missions that apparently are so egregiously not games people hold their controls up on live streams as the game effectively plays itself yep so people are just like just not real anymore you know it was they took the buyout already exactly yeah there was a i think one of the problems was there was a survey that of people that played video games and it showed that women played a lot of video games too but the video games that women played were like candy crush on their very different very different games totally different kind of thing so you had all these people that were saying look we got to make games that are attractive to ladies that girls will play and blah blah blah there's a ton of girl gamers look 50 percent of players are oh or blah blah blah and you end up changing what makes the the pc games and stuff i love this story from ign this cozy dress making game is taking over steam's top seller list my friends you can try and shoehorn in female characters in the games make the the the female heroes journey and say women are just as tough as men and then be surprised when your world war one sim simulator a battlefield game with a A purple-haired amputee doesn't sell all that well, or. If you want women to play video games, make a video game where they can make pretty dresses. Because they're going to buy it. Welcome to Dressmaker, a cozy game about making dresses. Inspired by real-world dressmaking, meet a range of clients who need outfits for different occasions. Take their measurements and adjust the mannequin to their exact size. Design the dresses in your sketchbook, cut out each panel, pin the pieces, and sew it all together. Choose from a wide range of notions and haberdashery. Deliver your creations to your clients and build relationships to gain prestige with each dress. Unlocking new fabrics and accessories from the Emporium. Make the dresses you've always dreamed of. In Dressmaker. This is all women ever wanted. It's one of their top sellers. Overwhelmingly positive. The game looks incredibly well made. I think it's fairly impressive. And if you just want to make dresses, dude, go for it. Don't let anybody tell you you can't. I don't care if you're a dude or a. If you're a dude or a lady. If this is the game for you, it's the game for you. Hey, if you want to be the purple-haired amputee lady in World War I, that's fine, too. I'm just not going to play it. I'm not going to play this game either, but it looks really well made, and I hope the women love it. Yeah, I mean, look, if it's popular, that's fine. But make games that are focused on your audience. If there are women that want to play this game, or if there are people that want to play this game, that's great. But you don't want to add, like, you don't want to make Dressmaker into, like, Armormaker just to try to attract, like, dudes. Like, Phil, you figured it out. You figured it out. We're going to make an MMO action RPG. Action adventure RPG. You're the blacksmith? No. You can be the armor designer to make cool-looking outfits from scratch. So when the dude is playing, and he's like, yeah, I got a raid tonight, we're getting 20 of the boys together, we're going to go fight a dragon, the wives are like, we're going to make your armor for you. There you go. And the girls are all sitting around. And they're, like, clicking. And they're like, ooh, let's put an armor plate here and here. Ooh, this one gives them plus two agility. Yeah. There you go. There you go. And then you're like, honey, can you build my armor for my raid tonight? And she'll be like, for sure. And then she calls the girls. And they're sitting there giggling. And they put, you know, little bells and whistles and haberdashery. I have, like, a berry gatherer one, too. Go and get food and bring it to the soldiers and shit. There you go. See, we just solved all the video games. The female characters just bring berries to the men before they fight the dragon. Berries and mead. I can't wait till I'm back. I'm back in Philly. And my friends are all saying, look, I'm so excited you were finally on the TimCast. What did you guys talk about? I'm going to be like, I want to tell you. They came up with the best video game idea ever. In, like, two months, this guy's going to announce the new video game they're launching. You never know. Getting men and women to play together. Bringing people together. Here's what you've got to do. You've got to make a video game where women marry strangers. I'm not kidding. You know about Love is Blind? Oh, yes. Married at First Sight. Oh, yeah. 90 Day Fiancé. I might have watched some of them. I won't say that too loud. And there's, like, 50 versions of them. There's, like, Love is Blind Australia. Yeah, there's, like, a wife swap for every country in the world. Wife swap's awesome. The best wife swap is. Which country's the best? Oh, the best one is South Africa, because they'll swap, like, a traditional African family with, like, a white family from Cape Town. And it's just, like, the craziest thing. Like, it's, like. No hijinks there. Are you serious? Yeah, yeah. No, they do. It's, like, a bit. They do it. Like, they're, like, okay, who are the most two, like, disparate ethnic groups in the country? Let's, like, trade their wives. And, of course, it's, like, a disaster every time. The British one's great, because they're so class stratified, so they'll swap, like, lower class with upper class. And then, like, there was one where I think they, like, had an affair, like, while they were on it and, like, broke up the marriage. If they were. They don't do France wife swap, because they do that anyway all the time. So that it would be just. Well, but it's not all wives up. Like, you know, Love is Blind is, like, how does that work? It's, like, too random. People, like, you know, get married or something. Is that what it is? Oh, that's Married at First Sight. What's a. Oh, no, Love is Blind is Blind People. There's all sorts of them. Married at First Sight, yeah. Wait, wait, Love is Blind is Blind People, isn't it? Yeah, correct, for sure. Is it? No, it's not. It's, like, they're, I mean. They can't see each other before, so they have to hear the voices and be like, oh, yeah. Oh, I thought it was, like, they got blind people to, like, a mating show. Love on the Spectrum is the best. I was just going to say that. I haven't seen that one. Oh, it's so good. Isn't that Down for Love or something? Well, yeah, Love on the Spectrum. Down for Love. Yeah, that's a real show. Yeah. This is the game women want, and I'm not joking. They keep trying to make video games for women, and they're like, women make up half of Gamers. No, they're playing Candy Crush. You make the dressmaker game, women buy it. Make a video game where you date strangers. Women will play it. Or, like, a Love on the Spectrum MMORPG. That'd be awesome. It's like a Sims. Like, it's like a Sims. It's like a Sims, right? Where it'll tell you, like, here's Janet, and she's, like, looking for love. And you'll get a selection of, like, ten guys. And you'll be like, oh. And you've got to read about each guy. And it'll be like, Rick is a surfer guy. He's kind of aloof. And he's a theater manager. Like, I don't know about that. And then you've got, like, Alan. He's like, hey, he's a software developer. He's got a good salary. It's just Tinder. They do that every day. And then you make them go on dates. And then you can affect the dates. So, like, they'll talk. And then if things are going bad, you see, like, their mood decline. And you can be like, quick, get the waiter. Get the waiter. And you can, like, have the waiter come in. That's what The Sims was. Because The Sims, like, crushed with women. Like, the two games women, like, dominate is The Sims and Animal Crossing. But, like, you know, Animal Crossing is just because they're cute animals. But The Sims, it's like, yeah, you're, like, managing and facilitating relationships. But, like, if you watch, like, and I'll use some jargon here, medical terms. If you watch a Foyd play The Sims, they, like, turn into, like, domestic terrorists. Like, they'll – I was watching, like, I was watching this, like, an Instagram reel of a girl. And she's, like, a streamer. And she was playing The Sims. And she was, like, putting a bunch of them in a pool and then deleting the latter. And they were all, like, drowning. And she was, like, monotically laughing. I'm like, is this what they're up to? Like, they're either watching murder documentaries or they're committing, like, microgenocides on The Sims. I mean, that's another game. How come there's no true crime video game? That's what I was just thinking. The game is – it's not a murder mystery. And it's not like you're a detective looking around looking at clues. You're sitting on a couch with another woman. And then you just – You just talk about what you think happened. You gossip about it. With AI, you could have, like, an AI friend that you talk about. My co-host – I have a podcast called Inside Game. My co-host is this NBA super agent named Derek Brooks. His goal in life is to one time be the guy on Dateline who's like, yeah, I saw that. He wants to be random black guy who gets asked all the questions. He's like, literally, I want to one day be that guy on Dateline. We did a whole episode on how we need to have him be that guy. And so – If a crime happens, you call up. So Derek can be the guy and say, I saw that that happened. I think we could put that in a box. Here's a question. Like, how come – How do you want to place yourself like crime? I just want to ask a question. How come no one's made these games? Like, OK. So in all seriousness, you've got Married at First Sight video game. Figure out how to gamify that. Have it largely be story with various choices because women love watching this stuff. You've also got Dateline. How do you make a true crime – I think we could – I think that's got legs. I'm dead serious. I seriously think so. I think that's the next game I'm going to make. Like, I'm making this dungeon, explore, action, adventure, fantasy game with vampires. What am I doing? There's a whole market of ladies who need video games. And the studios keep being like, hey, ladies, you want to go to World War I? And they're like, no. I want to marry a stranger. Or build a dress. Yeah, or build a dress. Or my marriage with a stranger. 90 Day Fiance, the game. There's like a tension bar. That'd be beautiful. That's what I'm saying. Make a game where you're out. Oh, that's a good one. Like, you get married and you've got to make it 90 days. Oh, that'd be tough. With women. Yeah. That would fall apart every time. And like – and you can choose to – like, I guess the question is, do you play as the woman or the man, or do you add influences? Like, you can increase the temperature in the room or decrease it to see, like, how they behave and, like, you know. Like, it's like Oregon Trail, but instead you, like, postpartum, and then you go, like, crazy. The Lindsay Glancy video. She just wiped the whole lobby. Squad wipe. That'll be, like, part two, and it'll be the true crime version. Yeah. Like, they were married for 90 days, and then she massacred everybody. Yeah, we have Tom Clancy, they have Lindsay Clancy. You've got to get her – you have to get her found not guilty by reason of insanity. The true crime game is actually a really, really good idea. Women, they just cannot get enough of the true crime. My girlfriend's always watching Netflix. Well, I like the Agatha Christie. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Like, there are video games where you're trying to solve murder mysteries, but I guess they got to target them towards women and make – Like, the narrative very much, like, here are the key details about what happened, and then you explore that story somehow, and then I suppose the way the game would work is it has to be that the official narrative is wrong, and you have to exonerate the female murderer or something. Ooh. Like, she's on – oh, that's the game. She's on trial for murder. No combat. None. There's just, like, protesters outside, and you can talk to people, you can go visit witnesses. Actually, this sounds like a fun game. Yeah. And then it's like, you're trying to prove that this woman who murdered her kids was mentally unwell when she did. That's it. Like, you know she killed the kids, but, like, you're going to get her out of jail because she deserves it. That game is going to – Deserves. That's a blockbuster. They deserve. I mean, we're joking, but I'm going to make this game. I don't think we're joking. I know you're not. I know you're not joking. I've invested in a couple game studios, so let's go. I got to ask you this before we jump to the Super Chats, though. So, are you – do you – Do you code yourself, or do you – I used to be a very good coder, but that's a young kid's game. How long would it take you to write – 45,000 lines of game code animate 13 let's say uh 15 characters uh and then uh design the a level generator for procedural how long you think that would take i mean it's with ai no no no no no no from scratch yeah oh i mean that would that would take like two years i did it in three days three days you coded 45,000 lines in three days indeed yep i'm impressed i i just went on astra and i said here's the game that i want and so it took so so far i think we're probably at a combined like 35 hours of labor human labor the machine's doing god knows what it is oh that's what i mean i thought i i thought you said you personally wrote 45,000 oh no no i'm saying i did it with ai yes no question uh and so i was like i'm assuming it's probably six months of work and then we looked it up and it's like the the estimates are that it would take between like at this point two to four years and probably cost hundreds of thousands of dollars in art design animation development and we did it all in like a week yep uh right now i have an addiction to adding features because it's so easy so i have to keep like stopping and kind of pulling back to finish the game the game is technically uh technically done but i had my brother come in and i'm like you need to just polish it and figure out what i didn't do and so he's he's basically cleaning it up a little bit i think we're gonna have this game done it's a uh procedurally generated dungeon roguelike action rpg uh you basically are just going down a building to the first floor and then if you uh if you solve the quests you get an infinite dungeon mode that basically just and then you can level up and just keep playing forever whole thing's done i mean the craziest thing is the art uh the way the dungeon generator works is you've got i think the first the first floor you go on might be uh i thought it was six it might be like eight rooms that connect through tunnels and then it procedurally generates and then every level the amount of tiles increased by 10 each individual room it has identifiable art to like this room is the conservatory and it's got like windows and then it just places them randomly the background art took 10 seconds literally i typed in like each room needs background art and went okay and then it was like thinking and i went here you go i had it draw 1 000 different tabletop card game cards and that probably took 20 minutes yeah this is insane where we are currently at with with game dev stuff so i'm gonna make this true crime game and i think it'll take a week i'll bet you could do it yeah just it's because coding is english now yeah it's amazing man and then uh great idea so once we're about to wrap up this this game i'm having my brother basically finish it out there's a few things we want to do because you know we want to make it as best as possible so we're probably going to give it another week just to make sure it's i mean it's completely playable now uh i read it a lot but i don't know rebuilt the uh the i had i ended up for no reason i rebuilt the dungeon generator because i wanted to add art to it and this is the problem i keep adding features and then the combat system i totally redid just because i was like i didn't like it was using decimals for in damage and i was like no i'd rather just everything be solid numbers i was like let's rebuild it from scratch and recalculate how we deal damage and uh i think the what we want to do with this we're going to release it and we can just doing updates is crazy if we want to roll out a new character type to play so like in the game there's rogue sorcerer and then there's some unlockables we can be like hey this month we're rolling out a new playable character elvish archer like download and in order to create that character the talent trees and everything takes one sentence i say to astra make it it's done and then we just drop it in there we go we're gonna go to your rumble rants and super chats so smash that like button share the show with everyone you know the uncensored portion of the show is coming up at 10 o'clock you don't miss it tech ru says biden is one of the democrats responsible for ukraine's war closing refineries cancellation of pipelines draining the strategic oil reserves supporting iran's nuclear program and high fuel prices indeed we are dealing with a lot of the ramifications from uh what happened in the biden administration it is absolutely true uh that being said i think people are generally just upset the republicans aren't i don't know getting the save act passed there's a lot of things right akasa says one of my best friends was just diagnosed with brain cancer if possible donations to support patrick's fight against brain cancer on gofundme would mean so much he's in for the fight of his life sorry to hear it best of luck mcbeef rod space king episode 5 hit 10 million views space king the board game kickstarter has hit 7.5 million dollars let's get to eight phil can i get a praise b to space king praise b to space king praise b to space king is space king i don't know what that is i don't know what that is people love it yeah same old man says tim going into the matrix is not going back in time sending my mind soul back in time yes going in the matrix hell no in fact the matrix was back in time that was the point of the story they literally say peep that for some reason the air that worked the best was the late 90s despite it was in the far future they sent people's minds back you know fun griff says the economy isn't good enough anymore many gamers don't have the time or energy to game all weekend long anymore how many work six seven days a week to make ends meet and want to chill for an hour a week you know that's kind of the point i was making about the state of the economy guys go to casino take a look at all of the young people that somehow have money to gamble and you're wondering why that is take a look at all the people who are sitting at the craps table with like 10 grand in front of them and you're wondering how they do it go to mgm national harbor on a weekend and ask yourself how it is that these people are playing a hand of let's just say three card poker at 250 let me do the math it's going to be a minimum of 50 50 and 50 so to play the hand with the bonuses is 200 four card poker is going to be like 150 who are these people sitting down at a table game who have thousands of dollars to burn the economy is in a very very very very weird place certainly there are people who you know i'll put it this way i saw in california it said now hiring 23 an hour to start you know it's getting crazy out there let's grab some more we got a bunch of these uh these chats over here super chats let's grab this one let's see rachel wilson says tim is articulating my reason for thinking universal universal suffrage democracy might be the worst form of government do you think there is such a thing as the will of the people if there ever was i don't think there is any law of the people i don't think there is any law of the people i don't think there is any law of the people i don't think there is any law of the people i don't think there is any law of the people longer a common will among americans thoughts i agree i think the will of the people when we had a couple million people and they were all morally homogenous you know uh american colonists they largely agreed on most things even though they thought they disagreed on most things they didn't even realize you could disagree on the christian moral framework they were like well that's just normal everyone agrees on that so they built a government with the basis of an underlying moral framework now that we have a country with disparate moral framework and works in more than two people largely don't agree on what these laws even mean anymore there it is that's true all right cody titus says today we lost our dog kimber after almost 17 years she was my graduation present my five-year-old daughter is having a tough time as we all are tim can you please do your thing love you kimber and you phil she's named like the gun oh the yeah like the kimber yeah well what i always say is um you know when when you have a dog when you have a good pet your dog or cat uh any pet really any animal that you really care about these animals bring you so much joy for so little in return you have to ask yourself when does the bill come due because we don't get things for free right so what happens is all of these years these 17 years you get to spend with that that friend where you you are made to feel good they love you unconditionally there always was a condition when that friend passes all of that love that they gave you over 17 years it gets released all at once and you feel it and so i always describe it as it's a good pain because that sadness that you feel is the expression of all of that love that you were given over that long period of time so the bill comes due as it were but it's good and you and you know you know you know you know you know what you know you would pay that bill any day when you when you first get that pet you know the day will come and you gladly accept the terms because it was worth it so rest in peace kimber i'm sorry for your loss 17 the only time a man is allowed to cry is when his dog dies 17 years is a long time for a dog that's a good long life for a dog um immortal legend says did you see andrew schultz taking the vague to task about his wanting to bring in more h1bs to ohio and alluding to americans being dumb wow that was from last january that clip was circling oh really yeah from 26 january or 25 wow but it's circulating recently because it's still very salient yeah it also was pretty crazed to me just the current state of politics in this country is i am not convinced i hate to say it but this you know we'll talk maybe we'll talk about the uncensored portion i'm not convinced there's a coming back of these world views especially based on the conversations i've had in Los Angeles, the way that the media, the way media is going right now, it is basically like different networks are different nations at war with each other. It's it's absolutely insane. I think YouTube absolutely fits the bill. YouTube very clearly is motivated not by money, but by ideology. I think that's fairly obvious to most people. Maybe this is what happens when you are the biggest game in town and you don't need to think about money. You end up just saying like, well, we don't care if our actions lose us money because we have too much already. So they're just spending money on ideology. We'll talk about that and more in the uncensored portion of the show. Smash the like button. Share the show with everyone you know. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Sir, would you like to shout anything out? It's been a pleasure being here. I'd love you to check out my podcast sometime inside game dot com. And if you have a way to get my buddy on Dateline, just let me know. I'd love to. Let me know. I second that. And you can follow me on X and Instagram at Realty Brown. Give me a follow. I am Phil that remains on Twix. 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