Waiting ‘till marriage & raising 2 kids in a tiny home w/ Carson & Brielle Matranga

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Carson Matringa went massively viral this year after his wife Brielle shared a story time video of him and their daughter introducing the Matringas to millions. Please call my dad dad. Was there ever a worry of getting pregnant like when you're in high school? We never did anything like that till after marriage. Oh, no way. I was nine. My mom started doing drugs. Kind of feel like I didn't have a childhood. You guys think you're each other's soulmate? Oh, 100%. I can't wait to find her in the next life. What if she's a tree though? How would that work out? If I'm a squirrel, I'm living in that tree. They open up about getting married young, Brielle's battle with anxiety, and what it's really like raising a family in a tiny home all on today's episode. Please welcome Carson and Brielle Matringa. Yeah, baby. I'm excited. You guys, they brought us an entire king cake from New Orleans. They flew with this thing. We did. We really did. Thousands of miles. With the big car seats. Yeah, with two car seats, two kids, a sister, and a mother. And two little kids. Yeah, two little kids, three-year-old and 10-month-old. Oh, my. That was a labor of love, you guys. Thank you so much. Of course. Look at how nice. This thing smells so good. Your mom made it. Yes, yes. My mom made it. I was like, okay. What is the season for king? Is it Christmas? No, it's Mardi Gras. Mardi Gras. Oh, duh. So. I'm so dumb. It's okay. No, no, no, no. No, you're not. You're fine. Okay, so there's a hidden baby somewhere in there. What happens if you accidentally cut the baby? Because that seems dark. Yeah. Especially because it's supposed to be Jesus. Yeah, sheesh. I'm wondering if he got it first piece. That would be crazy if he did. If we get baby Jesus in the first piece, that's like a sign from above that this podcast was supposed to happen. It smells so good. Don't say that because now he's not in it. She forgot. Okay. Abby, we're both going to take a big bite of king cake at the same time. You got to serve some to the guests. Oh wait, yes. Would you guys like some king cake? I don't, but maybe he wants some. I'll take a little piece. I feel like the whole time he was holding it. I just put my hands all over it, but here, I'll make this one for me. I saw you just come out the bathroom, so hopefully you wash your hands. I did wash my hands. Yeah, Matt, seriously. Here, I'll give you a piece with the gold on it. There is a baby Jesus in this. There is a baby Jesus somewhere in this cake. Yes. You don't. And the tradition is if you get the baby Jesus, then you have to bring the king cake to the next function. That's fun. Yes. I never knew about any of this until today. Same. Never in my life. But everyone in Louisiana knows about this. Oh, yeah. This is a Louisiana thing, the king cake. This happens all the time. Yes. Oh, yeah. Wow. Yeah. That's so fascinating. Have you gone to Mardi Gras? Yeah, no. I knew that Mardi Gras was a big deal there. You've never been. I'm from St. Louis, and I think St. Louis has a decent Mardi Gras parade. Nothing compared to Louisiana, but okay, should we try? Should we try this? Yeah. I'm like, "Guys, try it." I'm seeing if I have a baby first. Okay, Ma, you did a good job. That is fire. Shout out, Nani. So buttery. Oh, my God. So sugary. I'm going to have a hard time focusing, looking at that this whole time. You guys, that's delicious. Your mom knows how to cook or bake. Okay. That's my goals as a grandma, to be able to whip something up like this. I'm not kidding. I talk to Matt about being a grandma all the time. Yes. I'm so excited. Yes. That is so cute. That is sweet. Okay, you keep talking. I want to keep eating. You guys went mega viral a couple months ago with a video of you telling your daughter a story. Yes. And dude, Abby showed me this video. I feel like everyone's seen it. It has hundreds of millions of views, which is just ridiculous. And admirable, yes. Dude, that's like 10% of the world that's seen this video. You know what I'm saying? When you put it into that perspective, that is crazy. Yeah. Which is pretty wild. Yeah. Yeah. What's the backstory of that viral video? It's honestly not even that crazy of a backstory. I was just being my genuine self. My daughter came up to me, and she asked me to tell her a story. And she gave me the premise of the story. She's like, I want you to tell me a story about a little girl that was being mean to her dada. And I said, okay, right, sure. And so I'm telling her this story. And she's kind of sleepy, too, at this point. But I'm telling her this story, and she's locked into this story. And I'm just telling her as a dad. I'm trying not to cry, but also not to laugh and everything. I'm trying to just be the storyteller. And then Brielle takes her phone out. She starts recording, because she's like, I need to keep this moment forever. And after I'm done telling her the story, I hug her or whatever, because I don't like to see her cry. You know, that was so sad. But at the same time, I was so proud that she was able, at three years old, to feel that from a story. You know what I mean? And so Brielle, she showed me the video. She goes, you have to post that right now. And I'm like, I don't know. I should post it, babe. I'm like, she's crying a little bit. And she's like, yeah, but it's not a negative thing. This is so cute, what just happened. Yeah. And I was like, I mean, if you think so, then sure. And I don't know how you guys are, if you post at a certain time and all this kind of stuff. But we're pretty diligent about posting at 3:00 PM, central time. Oh, really? Yeah. I don't know. We just found that to be the best time for us. So it was past our post time. I'm like, babe, it's already an hour and a half past post time and blah, blah, blah. And she's like, Carson, it doesn't matter. Just post. And I said-- OK, fine. And so I post it. And literally within minutes, millions. And I was just like, this is crazy. This is the most viral video we have ever had. Has your daughter always been an empath? Yes. I guess it's like my great uncle. It's like a head of a hospital. And he has seen a lot of patients and stuff before. And when Zally was a few months old, I will never forget, he literally looked at her and he goes, she's going to be a very empathetic person. I can just tell by how she is observant and everything that she's going to be a person that really cares deeply of people. And I was like, wow. I don't know. So if you ask, I guess, professional trained eyes, if that makes sense, they've told us that, that she kind of always was going to have that empathy kind of part about her, whatever that may have been. You think she was born with that? Or is that something-- because I'm like, how do you raise your-- I feel like three-year-olds, and toddlers in general, their job really is to be selfish, focus on themselves. But it's so unique that she is so empathetic like that. We kind of talk to her like she's a person. We don't talk to her like she's a kid. And I don't know if that has anything to do with it. Yeah. It might just be her, though, too. Even our son, he's very observant. But it's funny, Zally, when she was little, she's still little, but when she was younger, she was very cautious of everything, too. Mm-hmm. She was a climber, but she was a very cautious climber. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Lyric, our son, 10 months, that boy is not cautious at all. He's very capable of everything he does, but he's way-- I don't want to speak and say he's clumsy, but he's more clumsy than our daughter was. So yeah, I don't know. It might have just been always a part of her. What was the most surprising thing to come out of that video? Was there somebody that commented that was like, oh, that's cool. John Cena commented. John Cena commented on the video. Like, has anything like that happened? Wait, did John Cena comment on it? I just made up that. That's the one that you called up? If he did, we couldn't see it, so it's all right. Oh, really? Oh, OK. I'm glad somebody got the joke. Wait, I don't get the joke. You can't see John Cena? Get it? Like, that's his whole thing? Like, you can't see me? I can't. I've never heard that. That went over our heads. OK. I didn't know that. Wait, why did nobody ever tell me that? Am I dumb? No, I didn't know it either. That's his thing. That's John Cena's thing? Like, when he jumps in the ring-- I mean, I don't watch wrestling, but I'm pretty sure when he jumps in the ring, he's like, you can't see me. Guys, I've watched entire movies with John Cena. I've never heard of that in my entire life. They tell jokes-- OK. They tell jokes about it every time. Really? Yeah, like, they're looking past him, like, why aren't you looking at me? They're like, what? Gosh dang it. We live under a rock here. It's OK. It's OK. It's OK. I'm acting like I'm locked in, but I'm not. I'm not tapped in. I even watch Peacemaker with John Cena. Like, that's his own show. He's the main character. Still don't know that. Whatever. It's OK. It's OK. Thanks for educating me. Of course. Of course. Any time. Thanks for filling me. Any time. This is really educational for us. But to answer your question-- I've had more famous people follow me from that video than like I didn't I don't know they had I just kept seeing like blue checks like really yeah follow follow and I was just like and she would honestly just take my phone and she would like look through like the activity and she's like Carson uh I don't know Christina Perry's following you I was like whoa why do I not know who Christina Perry is okay am I it's okay it was just interesting yeah it was just yeah yeah dance with the stars people was liking the pictures and everything and uh the video rather and um but I think the main thing that I surprised me was the amount of love that we got from that video because I was so concerned about negativity you know because like posting your kid kind of crying and stuff but like again like she said it wasn't a negative thing it was like a beautiful moment and honestly a lot of people were like this is how you should be training your kids like tell them a story that's fake that but so they won't do stuff and I'm like yeah maybe but like you know and also it's a happy cry too yes it was she's she's feeling that it's because of I don't know I think the video from my interpretation was just this beautiful relationship that you have with your daughter thank you and how much she trusts you yeah and it was sweet seeing you comfort her when she got sad thank you so it's sweet so sweet thank you yeah and it's funny you mentioned dancing with the stars I feel like I feel like you got to go and dance with stars don't say I'm gonna cry don't say that I would love that oh my gosh dude you guys both have dance backgrounds right just well like I guess professionally trained just me yeah yeah um Brielle not no she ran well you could tell what happened in the dance studio when you first went in um as a little girl I was I was just really terrified of like men I don't know why like I just was like one of those little girls that like I was like she's with me I just was like that so I went in first day of dance and it was like a male assistant and I never went back oh really yeah and so I um just didn't stick with it and I was also a very shy kid um you kind of were too but dance actually brought I was definitely like so shy I was like I was the oldest but I would get my younger brother I would like if we're at the playground I would send him out I'm like hey go make some friends once you establish that come back to me and then we'll all go play because I can't your younger brother you see yeah yes my younger brother everybody thinks he's older because he's like huge now like he's like really built but uh I'm older I'm gonna stick by that I'm the bigger brother Gavin um anyway um but no yeah so I was super shy and then Michael Jackson passed away which is actually 17 years ago today um he passed away and I did not know who he was at all neither DeBrio and we both fell in love with the art of like performing and we would literally copy his moves like to a tee and my family I would hold like a family dinner night where like all my family came like aunts uncles grandparents everything and I would literally perform in front of the tv for them while they ate dinner and like I think it was like that moment I like unlocked something for me like seeing how happy and like in the moment they were because of something that I was doing that's like I never want to do anything but this you know and so um I stuck with it I mean I still like I like to teach and everything still to this day um but that moment was like a light switch turned on you know and fill me in on the Louisiana culture of family because family plays a huge part yes in in your upbringing right 100 so so what like you speak no you don't no that's what people that's what like uh like what they speak though right for creole they speak creole but we don't we're not in that area kind of like okay that's kind of more like I guess do you guys have like a country kind of like feel in Arizona like yeah like that's kind of like yeah like yeah like that's the country I think that's like kind of like this the equivalent to like Cajun like okay if that makes sense yeah yeah um we're not really tapped into that uh just because we don't we don't we don't live in that area okay um we know of it you know and like there's swamp tours and stuff like that where like Cajun people like bring you around yeah and show you the alligators and where they live alligators yeah and you name it they have it did you ever almost get bitten by an alligator no I used to have a pet alligator what yeah you had a pet alligator yeah it's a little baby alligator it was so cute does everybody believe you have one I still don't think she believes that question was so funny no no I don't think I don't think uh is that legal I don't think so okay I don't know I was a kid and I let it go like I only had it for like a couple weeks you found it yourself like in the wild no my uncle brought it over and he was like look what I got for you and I was like this is so cool I was like I don't even know how old I was like seven or eight and um that's crazy I'm like scared of them he like came with like tape on his mouth and it was like this big it was like actually it was so cute okay and like seeing him like walk around we gave him like raw chicken and stuff um and then my yeah and my aunt actually lived like on some kind of property and stuff so we just let him go in that perfect in her backyard and I don't know if he's still there but hopefully he's okay yeah sheesh that's so crazy and we've never been so yeah fill fill me in and fill other people in on what is what is a crawfish boil like oh my god because that's a big part of the culture right yes oh yeah yeah yeah that's something else my daughter absolutely loves right now she found crawfish and is like that's all she wants to eat but she doesn't eat it she doesn't she just loves to peel them she doesn't eat it she doesn't eat it she just loves to peel them yeah she doesn't actually want to eat them at all she just wants to sit there and peel it and pretend like she's eating them yeah um that is like the get together in Louisiana any excuse you can think of yeah we're having a crawfish bowl but they have to be in season so it's around the same time as king cake so you're having like king cake and crawfish yeah it's great we gotta go what's that season it's like in February okay yeah February to like beginning of June is like the end of it like fat tuesday or like yeah yeah um ash wednesday yeah yeah okay so you basically before ash wednesday you like party it up you do like everything you can do you know again we don't do like we don't really do this we don't like follow it but like we know of it because we live there um but we aren't people like being naked yeah yeah yeah don't yeah don't look listen as as a person who's went on bourbon street on mardi gras day would not recommend wouldn't not why do you not go to bourbon street i am terrified he was i was traumatized i've seen things i never wanted to see before in my life okay like what what are we talking about can i actually say it on the pod sure i mean what the heck i guess you can always edit it out if it's too much okay like people have like made giant crafted like uh private parts and like walked around with them on yeah and like i was a child like okay i say child i was probably like 12 like i was probably 13 i was like 13 is it is it legal you know that's what i asked myself in new orleans a lot of things that aren't legal around the country they can get away with if that makes sense like yeah like you can you can drink alcohol walking around i didn't know that wasn't normal until uh we had some friends from out of town come in and they're like why does your daiquiri shop have a drive-thru and we're like uh i don't know it just does and they're like just just make sure yeah yours does it it's like just make sure you don't put the straw in the cup and then you'll be fine if a cop pulls you over so what i'm what i'm saying is if you're on mardi gras you're gonna see naked people in private parts that are like like like replicas yeah replicas and real and real replicas yeah yeah i just don't maybe we won't bring the kids no but do not no no but we do have like other parades that like aren't you know in new orleans or if you can like get a good spot in new orleans for certain parades it it's it can be nice for sure how old were you when you uh some experiences i think i was like 13. who brought you to this dude okay look again as i said we didn't grow up doing this so my mom was like you guys are older now like i think we can go and like my aunts and uncles and stuff like they they they have gone a few times okay and like their house is actually like a block around uh a block from like where the parades go yeah they live there yeah and so we stayed at their house and then like went for mardi gras and my mom was like oh now like we go try it out and we're like okay cool we try it out and we're like yeah never going back mom you know um none of the kids like to go now yeah no it's just wasn't it's just not our vibe it's all right it's like if you like mardi gras more power to you you know i just like i'll just eat the king cake i'll just yes i'll go home and i'll throw beads to you guys and eat king cake and eat crawfish and we're good you said if they're topless they get better beads correct yeah like so so yeah so they would like they shake their chest basically to get more beads like so like the float comes by they just say like throw me something mister yeah yeah and they show because they make shirts that say that like yeah like when you drive through like you're gonna see like mannequins with shirts with like a woman's chest okay okay yeah all right and so they do that and it's basically so that they can get the better beads thrown to them yeah the better beads yeah which is literally just plastic beads like that but maybe just like bigger yeah so yeah like they do have some that are huge yeah i think people like the huge beads or like they like the little really small ones that we brought you um i don't know but it's so yeah it's just it's strange honestly i feel like we just went in a complete curveball direction yeah sorry yeah because i thought we were talking like you thought the king cake baby jesus is in this king cake and then you're telling me that women are shaking their chest for some beads yeah so how does that correlate so yeah this is what my mom told me uh she's like you know how you know kids like they kind of have like to get all this energy and they get all crazy and do all these crazy things and then they just like kind of go to sleep yeah after think about that for adults like they just got to do all this crazy stuff all this crazy stuff right before ash wednesday and like you know and then once the ash wednesday comes like they got they chill out okay so they get all that then they're forgiven yeah like i think i think we don't know we don't know I've never drank an ounce of alcohol in my life or anything like so I really we're not like tapped in we just know because we live around there uh just want to premise that uh I am so fascinated seriously because I think that my knowledge of Mardi Gras and like New Orleans in general kind of stopped at Princess and the Frog I'm totally honest with you yeah yeah honestly that's where I probably get most of my good job I mean yeah that's my understanding of Louisiana is just Princess and the Frog that was the g-rated version though now I'm learning them more no it's really just around that time yeah but we went we actually because I think it's you guys can tell us are you guys from Phoenix or no we're from Missouri oh okay cool Illinois Abby's from yeah Illinois I'm from St. Louis okay cool so like being from like we're 30 minutes away from New Orleans so being from New Orleans we never really like go to the city okay much um and so we didn't really like I don't know I don't necessarily say appreciate New Orleans but it it just wasn't something that we thought of like oh this is cool you know what I mean yeah but we actually went yeah um but we actually went for our anniversary this year and kind of just like explored the city like as a tourist and it was actually like so nice like walking around like and taking in things you know and kind of like pretending to be a tourist so you guys didn't meet doing dance I don't know why I thought that originally because it does tie it does tie in so our relationship story is I love you've been together for a long time for being so young yes yeah yeah we have known each other since 2013 um but we got together in 20 end of 2016 yeah end of 2016 start of 2017 technically because guys I if you don't know this I'm gonna let you know you have to ask a woman to be their girlfriend I did not know I didn't know I didn't know this I was okay I was calling her my girlfriend Abby's like what the heck I literally never asked me I know I was like I didn't know how to ask you like what so I did a whole dance video and I asked her it was fun but but yeah because my mom and I were like wait like is she your girlfriend I was like I mean I think so like she says like my love to me and stuff like on the text and then it's different and as soon as I like I said I love you in person she stopped calling me anything she still doesn't call me all right anyways sorry so how we got together um definitely me yeah yeah same bro yeah oh yeah and he freaked out like no I freaked out okay listen listen do we want to go down so we actually got together we gotta we gotta know your love story yeah yeah yeah yeah okay okay okay okay we'll we'll we'll work in reverse okay so I said I love you first and I was terrified because like I was trying to do everything the correct way like you know people were telling me like don't say I love you too fast and do this that and the other and I'm like okay yeah I really like this girl like I don't want to mess it up you know because again she said we met each uh we knew about each other till since 2013 yeah and um but we never met each other in person and then we never like spoke romantically or anything like that I mean we were I was 13 and she was 12. like we didn't know what that was I just knew that I thought she was beautiful like at 13. but my mom always told me like before you get a girlfriend that you have to have a car or at least a license a savings account and a job because you're not you're not borrowing money from me and you're not bringing on the back of your bicycle so I said okay for like on and off for years does your mom have all boys by chance she has one girl oh three boys one girl okay three boys yeah girls yep yep she got her lines make like nailed down for what how she's gonna raise her boys oh yeah and so um so anyway yeah that's that's kind of how it was so whenever I finally got a car have a savings account got a job um I finally like was like hey do you want to like go on a date you know blah blah and it was like a what our third date or whatever I was okay also again to go back to family family's huge huge for me and um for us really and we always my mom raised us to say um I love you goodbye on the phone or any time like you're like because you don't know when the next time you'll see them or if ever right so she's always says always make sure you tell them that you love them um before you say goodbye and so it just naturally came out when I was telling her goodbye at the bowling alley and I was just like all right bye I love you and I was like I didn't mean to say that not yet wait uh I don't know why I love and I do I like in her face dropped and like that's why another reason was like I just freaked up like I really just messed up it's like I went in the car and I'm like I'm like stressing I'm like I don't even know what stress is but I'm feeling it right now and I was in the car I went home and I was like freaking out like texting or whatever and that the next morning I think or maybe it was even that night I don't remember I like going to my mom's room crying and I'm like and and she's and I'm like mom I messed up and she's like what what she's thinking like I did something like or she's like did something and like again at this time I'm 17 right I'm 17 yeah yeah and um and like she's she's thinking like I did something like that and I was like I accidentally said I love you to her and she's like oh my God guys you got me freaking out thinking that you did something like crazy blah blah whatever she goes if that's what if that's what you think messing up is I'm so proud of you and and so and I was like no mom being serious like I need your help like what do I do and so she took my phone she like wrote this big long message to Rio and she's like look at it does that look good I was like yeah it looks good and she like sends it to me like cool like I love you too kind of thing and I was like thanks mom love you so from my point of view from her point of view he said it and then his face was like I shouldn't have so like of course I was like your face babe like your face would drop you like did you just it was like it's that's like a big deal I feel like when you first say I love you like so it took me but also his face looked like I shouldn't have said that and she was literally calling me my love bro she would literally say I love you my love good night and now I I'm lucky I get dead because I told her she has to call me that when we have kids so they know my name is dead so like at least she called me that now but like yeah she doesn't say that anymore but it's okay I still love you is it true that you guys like moved in together when you were 15 and 16. yes that is true how tell me about that um do you want to talk about how we met first yeah yeah okay yeah first time you met yeah because it goes into that it goes into that yeah for sure um so like Carson said Michael Jackson died we met each other at the same exact time we were doing the same thing like like our family's freaking out we're like who is that I'm literally I think I was eight and I was nine yeah whatever they're all like this is literally like the greatest artist ever and we're like okay show videos and I did the same thing that he did I literally to it he was like dancing just like him she was way better than me too just had to say that he did the same move over and over again that's literally all he did okay and I just loved it I don't know but like we said I didn't actually like to go to like a dance studio it freaked me out whereas he did so that kind of created his love for dance and then he was like okay I want to do this um fast forward a little bit my little cousin was in the dance recital and there was one boy dancer and that was not common at all and like I said like I love Michael Jackson he was a boy dancer so I'm at the top of the auditorium and all this I didn't like my cousin was like oh you're gonna like really like this because there's this boy dancer and I was like okay he comes out he was doing this little like army dance and I pulled out my phone and I recorded it because I was like oh he's cute even though literally I could not see his face at all so recorded it and I really did want to talk to him after but he stayed backstage the whole time and I was like okay like I gotta leave and then how long after did we dude it was like the next day maybe it was the same week um I was on Instagram and stalking me no she says no but she's no he was tagged in a photo and I was like that's him same little army outfit that's him click on his profile comment under his picture and I'm like hey like this is how old we are about to tell us how old we are yeah yeah and I was like hey I seen you dancing I actually have a video of you that sounds really creepy now that it's yeah I thought I thought that this was a catfish at this point yeah but like at the time I was just like hey like I took a video of you and if you know Carson he really likes videos of himself that's not true she was like give me the video so he was trying to see if she was real because I thought she was pretty yeah and so he commented back and he didn't want to give me his number because he thought I was a catfish and so we downloaded kick do y'all remember yeah because goodness yes yeah because uh Instagram DMs were not even a thing they were not a thing at this time um let's take a bite of the king cake went on kick and then realized that you couldn't send videos so then he was like oh dang I have to give her my number so got the number sent him the video and he was like oh maybe she is real yeah and from that point on we like FaceTime we would FaceTime everything and it was just like I mean we were literally 12 and 13. like we just were like talking and like that was it then I learned that he lived 30 minutes away from me so we tried multiple times to meet up and it just like never worked out did you grow up dancing yeah actually I I took tap jazz and ballet that is so sick yeah what age since you were nine years old bro what's this happening um and then you grew up dancing I'm assuming as well okay awesome so don't ask me to dance no no no you're good I got no moves anymore you're good you're good um so I don't know how it was for you but like being a male dancer um in the space it was very difficult for me in the South um like I had you know dads and everything like speaking really like horrible things about me and stuff like no no you're good i didn't i literally didn't phase me but you know it was just something that that did that was happening right and so it would be it was very hard for me to find like a studio so i would i'd kind of be at a new studio like almost every year and um it's like my mom literally she at times she drove you know 45 minutes away just so i could dance and um and you know but anyway so like just stuff like that was happening a lot and so at this point in time i was like i'm just gonna stop dancing like i just can't like i can't do this anymore and um so it's kind of what i call like my dark period because it's just like it was very heavy for me because dance was literally everything to me and the fact that like i was getting so hurt from it every time i danced like with people and stuff that i thought were my friends it was just like it was horrible like just making fun of you for being a boy that wanted to dance for people calling you gay yeah that was that was yeah that was like yeah yeah i don't really care at this point but yeah i would always have guys hitting on me and stuff and like i think i didn't want to say that because like i don't really i don't want to like be like you know somebody that's not gay doesn't have it hard but like being a straight male dancer i feel like at least in the south made it even harder because i'm like that's i wasn't that if that makes sense you know um i was being misunderstood is frustrating in general exactly exactly so yeah i was just going through like a really hard time and we haven't talked like we didn't talk at this point like for a while and um and i remember like going outside like like looking up and kind of like talking to god basically like what do i do you know and almost like remember like it sounds so weird but like seeing her face in the stars right like i feel like that was like my sign to like reach back out to her and it was the strangest thing um for some reason i could not contact her no like nothing she deleted all her social media i did not have her number no more um like you name it it was gone and um if you get to know me a little bit more i'm really bad with names i don't know why so this is relevant to the story because i like really unlocked something and i remembered her cousin name somehow like i remembered her cousin's name and i found him on social media and i reached out to him like please tell brielle i'm trying to contact her and so he sent a picture that he was actually with brielle at that time and sent the picture i remember it was like the most beautiful picture ever she had no makeup or nothing like it looked like she just rolled out of bed she probably have a booger in her eye but like i didn't care like it was so like i was like this is my woman and um so finally she like got back in touch with me but it was so crazy because she got back in touch with me and we were leaving to go on a cruise and i was like i'm gonna go on a cruise and i was like i'm gonna go on a cruise and and i went to go try to text her back and we had just like left the port where the service wasn't working and so my texts were not going through at all and she had just texted you finally text me you're like and i was yes i was stressing that entire cruise i was like trying to figure out how to like get i was like were you trying to pay for the wi-fi i was trying to yeah i was like mom pay for the wi-fi i'll pay you back like come on get all this kind of stuff and uh and it was just nothing was working and um i actually wound up winning an ipad on that cruise and i was like and that is also relevant to the story just hear me out okay that's so random it is random but when i got back off the cruise i was still trying to text her and for some reason i had an android phone at the time and it was not texting her and she would not get social media or she didn't have it and i couldn't talk to her to ask her to get it for me just so we could talk and so winning that ipad was the only way that we're able to talk to each other like i like i messaged her on that ipad for the first time yes exactly that's not i guess that's my point is like all these like being being young uh being far away from each other being like you know uh not having social media not not contacting like there was there was always something that came to us and like was able to make this work you know with all you know things kind of going against us i guess and so um i found her and my life has been amazing ever since so you were texting on the ipad yeah and it just and it was just like little icloud just my little icloud email and you know just texting or facetiming like every night and um and finally this this is kind of a funny story uh so finally uh it was around halloween because boom adia halloween came out and i yeah i don't know what that is you know the media movies no why do i not know the references today the tyler perry movies gosh i know that name it's okay you and he's so striking out today man no you're good you're good you're so okay back yeah yeah i feel like you would like it matt okay yeah you would love it i think um so anyway i was like hey that just came out would you want to go see it and she's like yeah yeah i can tell my mom to bring me right now i said okay like let's do it and um and i was 16 she was 15 and my uh best friend uh she had a car i had my license i didn't have a car yet and so she was like um i'll bring you i'll bring you okay cool i said i just have to go convince my mom now like i don't you know and so we got i have a savings account like i have every i have i hit every criteria you told me to like come on like i need to level up you know and so guys we probably missed like two movies okay of like the screenings of how long it took to convince my mom to let me go meet this girl so that was the first time we met and she in person yeah in person what is that he had never seen me so four years of not of just talking of not seeing each other physically wow yeah and we were only 30 minutes away the whole time yeah was it awkward then oh yeah she made it awkward i got out of the car and i was like i was like hey you know whatever she's like hey and i was like you're not gonna give me a hug like i'm like here like with open arms well because he wanted to do that immediately and i just kind of was taking my little moment and then i i think i like side hugged you yeah then she side hugged me i was like like i don't like bro yeah exactly exactly i just was shy had to warm up i'm still surprised she likes me but it's okay not long after that yeah i mean you pretty much moved in what do you mean by moved in like on and off and then eventually you guys were like you guys weren't like you guys were breaking up or no no on and off like she would stay at my house she would go back what to your dads or grandmas or something okay yeah and um your parents would your parents like chill with that not well yeah not at first um until they like realized her situation at home and then like my dad was like oh no yeah i can't bring her back like we just had a very different childhood yeah um and so right around the time that me and carson started talking again my parents were i think they had just orders they were getting a divorce okay um and i had moved in with my dad and my grandmas and my mom was still like at the house that we were living at there was just a lot of stuff going on and i didn't really understand like what a family was until i kind of got with him and went like i remember that first day i went to your house yeah it surprised you on your birthday and i was like this is so weird like it was like just a normal family and i just wasn't used to that because i grew up in a very chaotic household what was happening like what what was going on that made it so hard to be at home i was nine and my mom started doing drugs it wasn't like intentional she had a lot of medical issues and it just she became addicted to pills i think i was 10 and she went to rehab okay in that time my parents had split up so i was living with my dad at an apartment it was just me and him because my sister i have one sister she wanted to stay with my mom i think she had that like protectiveness over her whereas i just wanted to be away from it we're living in the apartment and my mom went to rehab and she got better she did good and she was good for about a year my parents got back together um we got a different house um everything seemed fine and then she was like one month she'd be good and then the next month she'd mess up and so it was constant up and down when you say drugs are these like pain pills from a surgery that then she got addicted to or like what do you mean she had a hysterectomy i think at 27 and so it kind of because she had endometriosis really bad um then they said like if you want any chance of having kid you need to try now that's when they tried for me one thing about endometriosis which i never knew is that actually like it gets better when you're pregnant for a lot of women so she was good and it kind of like i think i was like four and she got a hysterectomy it was kind of after that point that it just changed everything for her and she just constantly had issues and then it became to where she kind of made herself have issues so that she could go to the hospital and she could you know what's it what's it like having a mom that's addicted to drugs how did that affect you as a kid made you have to grow up really fast yeah i kind of feel like i didn't have a childhood like i didn't really get to experience being the kid because i was just worried all the time um i dealt with anxiety a lot as a kid i never knew what was going to happen it actually got worse as i got older which sucks but nothing ever felt peaceful um it was constant constant chaos chaos and worry and i think another part of it was that my dad just wanted to fix everything in that moment and so he would just be like okay like i'll just get you whatever you want and we can just like put this behind us and to me that just frustrated me because it was like why are we not you know fixing this it's just like we're kind of like we're sweeping it under the rug and all of that is still there so this happened even into our relationship you know um i've seen things that i probably never wanted to see but i'm also so grateful that like i think god brought us together to like be able to take her from because it was definitely like in that perfect timing yeah because my parents had just told us that we're like we're getting a divorce. And my mom actually, she started drinking at that time, which was something she never did. and it was just a whole different side of her then my dad was going through it he was very depressed so I guess I just didn't feel like I had anywhere to go because I would be at my grandma's house with my dad but then that felt weird and I just wanted to be at my house in my room but then being in my house in my room my mom was you know yeah passed out in the bathroom passed out whatever yeah so being around Carson it just felt like wow like this is actually what family is supposed to be like wow this is like it was weird to me and then his parents seen that and I remember that was like the first time like your mom was like well just let her stay here and then there wasn't I mean it felt weird I mean when you think about it you're 15 years old and you're like you slept over at your boyfriend's house like it doesn't that sounds really odd but you know my mom and dad were my entire life we always had people living with us like we always had a spare room for somebody that needed it yeah and so um you know they had their they wound up having like their fourth kid and uh they actually made um Brielle and him like their own room like they was together but like yeah like so Brielle had her own room because his brother when whenever I came he was eight yeah he was eight he was just like the little brother yeah a little silly guy and uh and he did not sleep in the in a room like at all like he slept on the couch or with my mom and dad still like he was not you know and so my mom was like this room is really going to be for you Brielle but like I don't know I don't know like you know we'll just say it's also Kingston she felt bad not giving like her actual kid a room right and so they the room kind of like got split in half and uh and like they shared a room and he's actually our editor and uh shout out uncle it um but um but no yeah it was like he was like the third wheel like he he went on all of our dates with us like he's he's awesome but it was just it was just so funny because like yeah she had her own room in the house and uh yeah I don't know but yeah it didn't start that way because no it didn't start that way his dad of course had feelings about it yeah like I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know any parent like I really don't know if we should have our son's girlfriend living with us you know but I think that night is when he's seen it with his own eyes type of thing and he just felt like he couldn't do that and so it kind of wasn't ever like uh okay you're living with us now it just kind of happened yeah and it was like slowly I would like move more stuff yeah have more clothes here and then like oh just leave that here and then it just became yeah I stayed yeah was that ever a conversation that you have with your parents or was it and that's the weird thing it was like no one just ever talked about it like it just happened I remember you know people had feelings about it but it I mean that was apparent I'm like how could you ever like let that happen I guess especially when you're like still there like it's not like it was a situation where like my parents weren't around or something like that it was like they were right there the whole time they were they were right there but they weren't there like so present and at the time I think it was like two weeks after we got together my sister had she moved out so like so she was really just everybody she was living on her own did not drive yet didn't have a car didn't nothing didn't have food in the house you know like it was yeah I don't know what was there ever a worry of getting pregnant like when you're in high school was that ever was that ever a fear we never did anything like that till after marriage oh no way yeah so like we we respected it you know um obviously like we kissed and stuff but like we never like took it further um just because I don't know I think we knew the the consequences if you will or like you know of that of that possibility and like we just weren't I guess we weren't there yet like we wanted our own place you know and so we wanted to be yeah at a certain stage in our life before we did that yeah yeah and it's I mean he has a humongous family and like everybody's very very close so it's like even just hanging out in the house it's like everybody's right there yeah like there's that was like a weird part of our relationship we kind of like struggled with yeah because we it's weird when you first get together because I feel like normally it's like okay well you like go on dates and then you're like you're apart and then you come together and it's like a different way of getting to know each other and we didn't have that because we just it was like we literally were constantly with each other so there was moments where you know not a lot but there was a few moments where I was like I think we need a break like physically from each other just to like kind of like almost like a lot yeah oh I was gonna say you're living together but you're also dating and you're in your kids and so yeah it probably didn't necessarily feel like an option if you guys ever did want to break up or take a break oh yeah we thought that probably didn't feel like you could we yes that that is something that we still think about to this day where it's like what would like we asked I think you asked me that like what like if we would have broken up would I have gone what would I have done where would I be actually yeah that's like the real question is like where would I be today again it goes back to we really believe that we were just meant to be because like everything truly worked out how it was supposed to you know and it still is it just proves that like love is stronger than anything you know so that's that's a genuine question that I've I asked you know we asked ourselves too like what would have happened that's honest that's that's real I think hearing about your childhood it makes me wonder that now you now raising your own children so kind of like how I said the anxiety actually got worse actually when we got together so like as a kid it was kind of like common it was moments I would feel nervous I remember like physically being sick as a kid from just being anxious but it was like next day all better and I remember we were um I think it was like a few months into like me like officially staying at your house and I was like I was like I was like I was like I was like just woke up one night and like I felt like there was like an elephant on my chest and I never felt that before like that way and I remember like I was scared I was like what is going on and it took about how long of months of like every single day I felt like I was actually dying and I was scared that I was and then I think I lost like 10 pounds which I'm already little so like I yeah look scary everyone told me it was anxiety and I would not believe them I was like there's no way like anxiety doesn't do that to you like something's wrong with me and then another thing about me is I health anxiety is like the worst for me like I'm terrified of doctors and stuff like that so just the thought of like something being wrong with me I just I struggled with that so as we navigated through that and I finally was like okay like this has to be anxiety like it just makes sense I remember I started to finally feel better I think it was right before we got married and then I was like the best I ever was whenever I got pregnant with Zalia and that whole pregnancy like I felt like amazing like I was like I love the way I feel having her the main thing that it did for me was I could not understand how a parent could do that to their kid and you just like look at your kid and you're like there's no way like I would choose anything over you and I think that was my biggest thing was like I never understood why my mom couldn't just get it together you know like like you have two kids that are like begging you basically to get it together and she just wouldn't I think from that point I just like really looked at Dalia and I was like I need to choose to be better always for you I just knew that I had to get better for them like I knew that like I could not let anxiety take over my life because I knew that a lot of what my mom started with was anxiety and a lot of things that she grew up with was that and I know that if she would have gotten the help that she needed in a certain time in her life I don't think she would have been where she was at and so I just constantly tell myself that of like I have to make sure that I get it together because I won't let something control my life and who I am because that's not fair to my kids so I wanted to take every kind of like precaution and that's why I started like therapy and I was doing things that felt like I needed to do for them and I know I struggled with that when I felt it again because I felt good pregnant and then there was moments after I had Dalia that I felt it again I remember beating myself up because it was like like why like you can't do this like you're a parent like you can't do that you guys built your house yourselves right yes yeah talk to me about that because that not not many people actually build their own house yeah for sure so um this at this point in our life we had just gotten engaged and my uh where we live um Harkin in 2005 destroyed like pretty much every house in sight like my parents had like I think it was like 10 feet of water in their house oh my gosh so did insurance pay for their house to be rebuilt um yes and no um what do you mean by that so my dad chose to take the money and pay off their loan and then just build the house from scratch basically um so yes they paid they paid out the house basically they it wasn't like I don't know if it was enough to finish the house I don't I don't know all the details I just know that he did tell me that he wound up just paying off the house with the money that insurance gave him but um hold up so then he had to buy a new one then after the first one was paid off no we just rebuilt rebuilt because they had the land and everything so okay so literally what it looked like was just studs everywhere we had a pressure wash all the mold and everything off so it was literally just a house and a roof standing goodness you remember this yeah yeah I was I was like six so where did you guys go when the hurricane hit uh Georgia Thank goodness you weren't there Yeah. Well, yeah, we found out. So apparently right before that, I mean, I was young, but everybody talked about, oh, that was before the storm. That was before the storm. A lot of people talk about like before COVID, after COVID. It's kind of like that, where we're from. Like, oh, that was before the storm. I'm like, wasn't there like a Rite Aid or something right here? And they're like, yeah, that was before the storm. You remember that? And I'm like, yeah. So anyway, yeah, like we came back home and it was disgusting. There was mud like up to your knees and it was, it was just horrible. And so, but my mom, my dad and grandpa, they stripped the whole house down, bare bones, rebuilt it pretty much from scratch. And we were staying in a trailer, a FEMA trailer right in front of our house and they were rebuilding it. So that's kind of like my family's like very capable, I guess, if that makes, like you can say. So, and. Does your dad have a construction background? No, he fixes cars for a living. He just knows how to fix stuff. He just knows how to do it. He's just, he's just the guy. He's just the guy. Yeah. And he taught you how to do that? That's how you knew how to build a house? My grandpa, actually. So my, my grandpa, his, it's funny, his background's printing, but he is, he is the guy. He's the one that taught my dad, like during Katrina, the, the rebuild of the house after Katrina, like, he's the one that like, it was like, Hey, like, this is the book you need me to read. You got this. Here's this, how you read a tape measure, this or whatever. And like my dad picked it up like nothing. And same thing for me. Like my grandpa taught me how to, and Brielle how to build a house. And, um, and so during COVID we got engaged literally the day COVID hit, it makes, that's a whole crazy story in itself. But, um, but yeah, anyway, so, so my parents, the reason why I bring up Katrina is because, um, the people that live next door to my parents before the storm, they did not move back. So their house just got destroyed and they just left it. And so because my parents live right next door, they were able to buy that property. They had like first dibs basically for like super cheap. And so we had that property basically where another house could be. And we built a little pool house, mother-in-law, whatever you want to call it, uh, on that, on that property. And, uh, and Brielle thought it was a joke. You know, she really thought it was a joke. Cause my mom was like, just go build a little house back there. And I was like, are you for real? And my dad's like, yeah, y'all can, I don't, you know, whatever. And, um, we're like, okay, cool. And so I literally went outside, like with some bricks and we're kind of like laying stuff out and I was like, what are you doing? And she's, I'm like, they said we could. And then she's like, I don't know. She's like, yeah, they weren't serious. I'm like, my parents are serious, you know? And, uh, and so then my dad gets out there and he's like marking it out with us. And Brielle's like, this is not real life. And, you know, and we're like, yes, it is. So, um, my grandpa, uh, he has like some health conditions, stuff like that. Like he has problems with his heart. He had multiple heart attacks and whatnot. So during COVID, he just stayed with like pretty much stayed by our house, like not sleep. Like he didn't sleep there, but like, instead of going to work and all that kind of stuff, he just stayed with us. And every day, that's what we're doing. We're building a tiny home. It was me, Brielle and my grandpa building that tiny home from the ground up. That's impressive with his heart too. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Don't tell him he had a heart attack. He still doesn't believe he had a heart attack. That's how he is. But, uh, we love him. Um, and so, yeah. Is it hard not to get in arguments when you're in a 560 square foot space together with two kids? With two kids. That's probably the hardest part. Cause me and Brielle trying to have a passionate conversation. We don't argue really. We just like are pretty passionate when we speak sometimes. Um, and Zalia's like, guys, guys, listen, listen, it's all right guys. And I'm like, Zalia, we're not, we're not mad at each other. Like we're good. You know, she's like, I know, but guys, you gotta turn your volume down guys. And, uh, and I'm like, Zalia, we're just talking like it's all right. You know, the best time to have a conversation is when both kids fall asleep in the car and you're driving around. Definitely. Um, we definitely have to get out the house a lot and tiny home didn't even start at 560 square foot. That's like, I think that's like with my dad's shed included. Yeah. Is it 412? It was 416. Yeah. Oh, 416. It was 416. That's how it was literally just a studio apartment. Yeah. It was just one room with the bathroom. And, uh, and I always knew we were going to have one kid in it, but then when we were like property and housing and all that kind of stuff, cause again, the storm hit. And so some of the houses that were rebuilt were through Katrina and like, they didn't, they didn't do the due diligence like my grandpa and my dad did. So like they might've had underlying conditions and stuff like that for the houses that we could afford. And we're just like, this is just not the way to go. So when we, we wanted to have another kid. So I was like, okay, I gotta like be husband, dad mode or whatever, like figure out what we're going to do, you know? And, um, and it made it so much easier. And Brow told me, she's like, I just want to stay close to your family. I said, okay, babe, now I know where to look. Yeah. And so, um, do your kids sleep in the same bed as you guys? Yeah. No way. Yeah. They have to, we only have one room. There's one bedroom. There's one bedroom. So do you guys go to bed all at the same time and wake up all at the same time? Yeah. I don't, but yeah, we, we typically do. Yeah. Like I'll pretty much. Yeah. Like I, I'm a big gamer. I'm just going to say that. So, uh, so like I go to bed kind of late and wake up kind of early just so I can like have like 30 minutes, you know, of like playing something or working or writing or whatever. Um, but no, she, she sleeps in with the kids, you know, but again, she's like nursing all night too. So she's like not even like in a deep sleep most of the time. But, um, but yeah, so I don't really go to bed at the same time as them. Uh, I like to stay up and wake up early kind of thing. Um, but for the most part, like, yeah, we all go lay down at the same time. How do you have time for each other when your kids are in your bedroom? They said in the car when they're driving. No, Matt, you're messed up. You're so messed up. I feel like everybody would ask. I don't know. No, yeah, no, you're good. Uh, I don't, I don't know. I don't know. Cause she sleeps a lot. So I don't know. That's a great question. I don't know, babe. How do we, I don't know. I guess if there's a will, there's a way. I don't know. I mean, but then again, like we grew up with, I don't know, it was just always people around. So I don't know. It's not like, I mean, honestly, back in the day, everybody used to live in a, in a, in a tiny home. Yeah. Like everyone's house was like 500 square foot a hundred years ago. This is true. So we're just doing what our ancestors did. That's right. You guys were just going back to the roots. Okay. Has it been adjusting to two kids? At first with like a newborn, it wasn't as bad. Um, but as lyrics getting bigger, it's definitely hard because they don't have a lot of room to like play as much. Like they literally have just like one little area. And then also the amount of stuff is just, that's my biggest thing. Brielle is the kind of person that she has to have a place for everything. Like every single thing. Right. Like I make this joke, but it's not a joke. Azalea has like five little like barns. They're all different colors and they all have like animals in them. And we have to make sure that every animal goes in the exact color barn and put them back exactly how they're supposed to be. Like that's how like she wants everything to be. And when you live in a tiny home, like, and then especially then when you have two kids, like when you live in a tiny home, she kind of like had her way because you had to have a place for everything. Like you couldn't move too much. But after having kids, I'm like, baby, you gotta just, there's just not a spot. For everything. So it's just getting a little tight. And you're building a new house right now, right? We're building a new house right across the street. Across the street? From the tiny home. Did you guys just buy that land and it was open? No, it was not open. Oh. Did that store, we have so many stores. How did you get, how did you get it then? If it wasn't available? He said, where there's a will, there's a way. Pretty much. Okay. Pretty much, honestly. So we were actually going to buy a property a couple blocks down. Two streets over? Yeah, like two or three streets over. A couple blocks down. And. So it still wasn't too far. No, it still wasn't too far. You know, it was, it was, it was walkable-ish, you know, but, but something didn't feel right about that lot and like that property. And we kind of just like, I don't know, it just, it didn't fall through for a reason. Let's put it like that. And, and when I was talking to my mom about, you know, trying to find property and everything, because we decided to build because of what we were telling you guys, like how none of the houses that were in the price range, we thought was a good, like good investment. And we were like, that's been a good idea because we didn't know what underlying conditions they were without like breaking up the walls, like all that kind of stuff with, with Hurricane Katrina. And I'm like, we could probably build, since we know how to do a lot of it ourselves, we could probably build it for like the same price of like a brand new house or, I mean, one of those houses, you know, close to like a brand new house. So like we probably could save like a hundred, $150,000 like by building it ourselves. You're right. Yeah. So that's like, that's the route we decided to go. And, and so anyway, my mom, I was expressing a lot of stuff and I was very stressed out at this point in time because she was like, she was pregnant with our son, which is, we didn't know he was a boy yet. Uh, I was still working like a nine to five. Um, and that was, that's a whole story. And I was just, that was a lot on my plate. And so my mom was like, well, what about the one right across the street? I'm like, mom, I don't know if that's for sale. I was like, I don't even know who owns that. She goes, well, just hypothetically speaking, like, would like, why not just, you know, if you could, I was like, I don't know. I said, I don't know. Brielle said she wants to live close. I don't know about that close. You know, you already live in your backyard, you know? And so, um, so I go home and I said, babe, just, just hide that. Hypothetically speak, cause I'm already thinking she's going to be like, are you serious guys? And like, I said, close, not that close. I got, I'm thinking she's going to be like, whatever. And so I'm like, babe, just hypothetically, hypothetically speaking, if the property across the street was available, would you want that one? And she goes, oh yeah, I would rather that one way more than the other lots. And I was like, are you serious right now? And so, um, and so I was like, okay. And so I figured out who owned it. I called him and I'm like, I'm like, Hey, this is the situation. My parents live across the street. We have two kids, like another one's on the way or we have a kid and other ones on the way. We'd love to build and be close to family. He goes, oh, we'd love to sell it to you. Let me see how much I have. in in for like how much i have in it and uh and i'll get back with you i said okay cool and i prayed a prayer and i said god if he comes back with this particular number i'll know it's from you and i'll buy that and i'll lose my deposit on the other house because we literally we were about to sign for the other property we were literally deposit um i think it was like five grand or something like that like it you know and um and so i was like i'll lose that and i'll know this is from you and you know and so literally um and at this time we also thought we were having complications with um our son which we didn't know he was a boy gosh and um and so it was just i was very brielle's like it's like she said she's normally the anxious one she was so calm and chill about everything with the son like with our our second baby and i was acting like i was fine because i didn't want to show that my nervous like i was nervous and and stressed out to her because like she's naturally like i'm not gonna do that to you like that like i'm supposed to be like this stable like positive go lucky kind of guy right so it's like i didn't want to do that but it got so bad that my hand started like breaking out like bumps and i didn't know why like they would like anything i touch like hurt and suck like i work on keyboard and mouse it's like it was like so painful and when you look it up like it's a real thing it's called stress bumps like your body's releasing it because you're not so like because i wasn't like verbally or anything like expressing like what was it was my body was figuring out a way to get out the stress and i was like this is crazy i'm like i don't know i don't know i don't even want to believe in stress but obviously it's real and so um just had all those like you know all those terms and all these things that you don't want to hear about your baby you know and um and so anyway so that i'm trying to figure out where we're going to live trying to figure out what to do with work you know all this kind of stuff and so after my mom says that i tell braille i reach out to him uh the guy who owns the property and i and i pray that prayer i'm like lord like if it's this number i know it's from you and so i'm driving to work you know crying still whatever and then um uh it's like around lunchtime at work and braille's like the test results are in for for our baby like can you go look at him in the car you know i'm like okay so i go in the car you know and open the test results and it says he's perfectly healthy and he's a boy i'm like oh my gosh and so i'm crying i'm thanking god you know and then i go home like and i put the little box together or whatever and i i surprise braille and zally and i say this is what we're having you know and tell braille that we're having a boy and tell zally that she's having a little brother and she's like no i want it to be a sister and i said it's a brother so and um and so as soon as i showed them that it was a boy i i walked into our bedroom which is again it's only like three feet away uh and i get yeah legit and i pull up my phone and it's a text message from the guy and he said would this number work and it was the exact number i asked god for and i was like i fell to my knees like crying laughing and braille's like what what and i'm the number he said the number i was like yes and she's like you know we're crying or whatever and uh yeah so we got the lot across the street and now we're building wow that's amazing living so close to family it seems like you're like fully on board you like love this too is there ever a time where you're like okay we need to set up some boundaries like do you have boundaries with your family oh yeah what does that look like that's like the hardest thing to do yeah especially because i grew up homeschooled well not even homes i grew up unschooled okay what does that mean it means like we don't follow a curriculum like my mom like whatever our interest was my mom like went full force with that so like me i love dance like i went full force dance like or i love space so like she's like all these space books and all this kind of stuff like you know whatever we were super into she like went full force you know my brother loves animals a lady was talking to me about unschooling a coffee shop here people out here do it too yeah it's it's becoming more and more common like uh billy eilish and phineas like they were they grew up they were unschooled they grew up the exact same way i didn't know either my sister's like a fan of her so like she was telling me and she's like dude she was like raised like us i'm like that's pretty sick do you guys wear deodorant and yes okay where does that question isn't that like a crunchy thing is it like unschooling a crunchy thing i don't know i feel like crunchy people don't like deodorant because of that question i love that he didn't even question he's like yeah we do yeah yeah i'm like i'm thinking like i'm like i'm sorry man like bro like i know it's hot in arizona bro like like dude it's hot dude i'm sorry i wasn't trying to be rude i just wanted to know i think how crunchy are we talking did you like growing up unschooled i loved it looking back i absolutely loved it and like we want to do it with our kids i think we're gonna have a little bit more structure to it like i think um because growing up like i was super insecure about i still kind of am a little bit but like writing in front of people like doing math in front of people six times nine don't be doing this i'm sorry six times nine is 63 right 54 shoot wait which one's 63 oh frick this is so bad seven times nine oh that's so bad yeah i need to go back to i need oh my goodness and i went to school yeah and that's what i'm learning is that just because you how you grew up doesn't necessarily mean anything no no at all i think it matters who you are and what you bring to this world you know at the end of the day but um but yeah so i loved looking back i absolutely loved it i think it it allowed me to figure out what i wanted to do and who i am at a at an earlier age that's cool you know when i was in it i remember wanting to go to high school because like i watch high school musical and like all that kind of stuff i'm like oh this is what high school is like i wanted to do that so bad and um and you know i had friends in high school and stuff like that like oh my best friend the same one that helped me you know get with brielle by driving us to the movies was um she she decided to do that she decided to go to high school because she was unschooled until high school and she went it's like i went to prom with her and like everything like that and um and i'm like yeah i don't care to do this i do not like it was not my thing i was like i'm very grateful for you know um that my mom and dad chose to do that with me yeah and my siblings what's funny is the lady at the coffee shop that was like trying to tell me about unschooling her daughter's interest was youtube and so that's why she was like approaching me and she knew you were a youtuber i guess yeah and i was like i'm so sorry i'm not the person to ask but yeah i was like i can put you in contact with my husband wait were you homeschooled no you know okay no yeah he went to private school i went to public school and yeah i did both cool so but that's really neat i didn't know that yeah yeah how did we get here what we're talking about oh boundaries with family yes boundaries family okay okay we spent a lot of time yes what i'm trying to get at yes so you guys used to not have boundaries but then you had to bring in boundaries yes you can like be your own family that was very difficult i think we're still probably doing that yes because if you think about i mean the a kid going to school or they're gone hours of the day yeah he was with mom specifically and his siblings constantly like they didn't have any time away except for when you went to dance so i loved going to dance so when i got went into the family it was like yeah everybody was very and yeah that's just how it was even even like grandparents and aunts like like we're just we come together like every saturday pretty much like just to hang out like that's just how we are yeah and um and so yeah setting those boundaries was is was super difficult and it was a lot of hard conversations a lot of like you know and i think we still have to set some like as we're learning as we're growing you know as you have kids too it changes things that that's when i think we've really set those boundaries was when we had kids you know the boundaries weren't i'm gonna say they weren't there but like i think they weren't as there until we had kids okay it was easier to set those boundaries once we had kids just because you know they understand like okay you know we raised you like y'all talking about me and like my siblings differently than how my parents raised us so like we'll respect you know how you guys are raising you know when you decide to raise your kids you know what's an example of one of those boundaries a silly one i'm trying to think tell us the silly one silly one is uh when we tell our daughter no you can't get on the table my mom's like yeah yeah you can get on my table and she like puts her on the table to like dance or whatever she does you know it's like that's like a really silly like dumb one but like we didn't want our daughter to like then go to restaurants and i think she can get on the table which that kind of wound up happening you know um so that's kind of like that's a silly boundary but like that's kind of one of them um you know i mean they're pretty good they don't like come over to tiny home like ever like like we go over there i think it's mainly just like maybe ways that they would talk yeah in front of other family members or maybe to them like we didn't want that so we kind of had to set that boundary yeah like maybe maybe like my mom is a is a mom to all she's you know and so like maybe like her kind of talking to our kids as she's the mom if maybe maybe that that's a decent one you know um but i think we're still learning yeah for sure that's definitely like i feel like it changes too yeah and especially as your kids get older and you add to your family oh yeah i mean you were saying how you can't wait to be a grandma like can you imagine like the boys like saying mom no that's not you know like yeah like putting that boundary that you like i'm already preparing my heart yeah you know so you know i can only also imagine from their their point of view yeah you know it's so sweet that you're like so involved like it seems like with every step of your journey it's like i consulted my mom i consulted my dad and i think that's really that's really special like the fact that you guys you have that trust of your parents and that they like have clearly done something super intentional throughout raising you where you like you can come to them like even as an adult i think that's really really cool and both of you now yeah so we put up a poll on the unplanned podcast instagram okay and we're gonna ask some questions for yeah for brielle and carson so we're gonna answer those right now first one is from elise She said, what's one thing you hope your kids remember about their childhood? That they were loved. Yeah. I hope that they feel like when they look back that we did everything to give them the best childhood and that we were intentional with it. Next one is from Madeline. She said, how sad are you that crawfish season has come to an end? Brielle's very sad about it. Yeah, me more than Carson. Okay, they're called mud bugs. And sometimes some seasons will pass and I don't even eat them because the thought of how nasty they are grosses me out. Why are they nasty? They're like the cockroaches of the river. Really? Yeah. What do they eat? Dirt. Just like junk. Like literally, I don't even care. I'm going to roast myself. I take the poo off of the crawfish. I saw you do that in the video. I don't. I don't. They have like a poop line in it and most people don't. They just don't care. They just eat it. You can eat it. You can eat the poop. Yeah, it's fine. Why are people eating poop in Louisiana? Most people are fine. She said most people are fine. I guess because it's cooked. Is there a health risk there if you boil it? Yeah, think about shrimp. I feel like you're eating it in shrimp too. Yeah, exactly. I've definitely eaten shrimp poop before. Yes, you've eaten shrimp poop. I feel like it's their intestines. It's their, yeah. It's just. It's probably their large intestines. They taste so good though. But like, it's kind of like, I don't want to say offensive, but kind of to like a person that lives in Louisiana if you take the poop. Right, that's why I said I'm going to like. Wait, it really is? Yeah, like if you live in Louisiana, you should not be taking that out. Or if you peel crawfish with gloves. It's like, bro, really? Yeah. Oh, gloves. They were just hating on me for that. But we don't care. We have small children. We need to wear gloves. I don't know. Yeah, because I still nurse my son and I didn't. Because like most of the time crawfish is spicy. It's spicy. So I didn't want to. The smell stains your hands so bad. Yeah, like you'll have crawfish hands for like days. So we'll look like tourists if we wear gloves. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, I did it just because I wasn't trying to. I wasn't trying to touch my son with spicy hands. Is that why Zalia doesn't eat it and she just wants to peel it? Yeah, my dad does try to make her like more than or not spicy. But I think she just enjoys like peeling it more than eating it. And she'll like try it. She'll try and she'll pretend to eat it, but she's not a big, yeah. But yes, she does not like anything that's remotely spicy. So that's a big reason. I think it's scarred her one time. I thought you guys were bringing us crawfish. And so I was like excited and surprised. In a box. When you brought us the cake. Because you said that you wanted to bring us some food. Yeah. I'm like, I don't know what this is, but I'd seen the crawfish videos. But yeah, I think that's dope though. Well, you could go to Red Lobster. I'm excited to find baby Jesus in that cake. We need to find Jesus in that cake. Dude, that's funny. You want to ask the next one? Yes. It says, what made you start dancing? This one's from Rye Bye Bye. Rye Bye Bye. I started dancing. Well, we both started dancing because of Michael Jackson. We didn't know who he was. We kind of touched upon that. He's a tie-in for Michael Jackson still. He died. When he passed away 17 years ago, we did not know who he was at all. I didn't even know. I had no clue. Neither did she. And so when her parents were sobbing because this man died. It was just on the news. Michael Jackson died. And both of our parents were freaking out. They were freaking out. We're like, what the heck? And they're like, who is this? And they're like, you don't know Michael Jackson? And we're like, no. You didn't show me. They showed us the videos. And I was like, look. The tie-in is that he would have never found his love for dance if it wasn't for that. And then, so we say that. We're like, dang, like Michael Jackson brought us together. Yeah. Because if he would have never seen that, he would have never been like, okay, I want to try dance. And then I would have never seen him at the recital. Right. Isn't that crazy? That's what it was. Yeah. Next, we have this question from Rithing. Rithing. Rithing. Rithing 2. She said, are you wanting more? Four kids. Yes. Yep. At least one more. We say at least three. At most five. But then again, we don't know. Maybe we get to five and we're like, let's do five more. I don't know. I don't know about that one. Oh, goodness. Okay. Yes, at least one more, though. At least one more, yeah. I'm going to put this out there now. I really think our next one is going to be a girl. I don't know why. Yeah, you keep saying that. I have like the strongest feeling it's going to be a girl. I know I'll have a girl first, and I think I'm going to have a girl again. But if I'm not, it's okay. I'm super happy with either. I just really feel it. I don't know why. He's only 10 months old now, but I'm just so curious having one of each because we only have boys. Is it pretty different already, or do you think so? Everybody would always be like, oh, that's a boy. And we didn't understand that because, no offense, but he's not really like that growing up. He wasn't like boy, like crazy wild little boy. And I feel like your siblings weren't really either. The feelings also are different already. My daughter's very, like she has big feelings, and it's like everything is kind of just like huge for her. And it's in a different, I mean, yeah. I'm just picturing her face in the video where she's like. I know. People put that in our comments all the time. It's just that one thing. It's a screenshot of that photo. Yeah, it's a GIF at this point. Yeah, she just feels really big, and you can already tell that lyrics, just like he's silly, and he's like funny, and he's more just like. He does not, yeah. He's so chill. Yeah, he's chill, and she's just, yeah. It's different. Okay, last user submitted question says, Rochelle, what does this one mean? It is, oh, it's what Zalia says. She says. It's so nummy, question mark. So nummy? So nummy. So cute. It was so cute. It was so nummy. Oh, no, you tell us. Was the cake so nummy? So nummy. Oh, we missed that. We should have said so nummy. Oh, dang it, missed opportunities. You guys start talking like how your kids talk. Oh, my gosh. Matt was just saying that he's like, Abby, like, they're not, we went on a date last night, like, kid-free date for the first time in a long time, and I was, like, still, quote, like, talking about our kids. Oh, yeah. She always does that. She always says words the way that our kids say the word. Oh, yeah. You don't? Not as much. Yeah, I'm like, get with the slang in this household. She did that even when she'd babysit. She would quote the kids she'd babysit, but last night she said, I can't even say it right, it's just, Abby said, she said the word guel. I think that's how our kids say girl. They say it, instead of, like, girl, it sounds like squirrel. But it's not a girl. Your cousins do that. Yeah, they do. They say girl. Gayle. Gayle. Yeah. Besides nummy, what's your favorite thing that Zalia says? Ruffish. Ruffish. Or, um. So she says, um, not anymore, unfortunately, but she would say baja. Isn't that heartbreaking? Yeah. I hate it. But first of all, I hate it. For strawberries, she would say bajas, and we don't know, like, where it came from. Bajas? For strawberries. Everybody thinks that that's, like, because I think it's, um, what is it in Spanish? Bajas? Or something like that? I don't remember. I'm butchering it. Anyway, people would comment on us and say, like, maybe she's saying it in Spanish. She just secretly knows it. Yeah. Which is my grandpa, he speaks Spanish, so maybe he did tell her that one day, and it just stuck. I have no idea. Oh, I know my favorite. Oosh? No. The shoes? Oh. You like that one. I do. She says Kevin for heaven. Yes. So, like, so, like, she'll be, like, so, like, where's Jesus? And we're, like, in heaven, and she was, like, I want to go to Kevin. Yeah. It's so cute. And we just let her. I don't even want to correct that right now. Can she say her name, like, the way that her name is said now? Because I noticed in the video she couldn't really say her name. She still says Zaza. She says Zazas. Yeah. Zazas. Zazas. Yeah. Zazas. It's, like, plural. I don't know why she, like, yeah. Always says birth. I don't know why. That's cute. Do people say she looks like one or the other more? I do feel like she looks like. She does. Definitely. Does your son, do you think? I think he. He's a good mix of both of us. Yeah. I think he's a mix. But, yeah, she is, like, a spitting image of me. It's kind of scary. Yeah. If you saw his kid pictures, it's kind of creepy. It's freaky. Our youngest couldn't say our oldest name for a while, so he would call him Fiffin. Fiffin. Aw. That's so cute. He's the one who picked out his nickname, too. Yeah. Griffey. Aw. He just. It's weird. He just randomly started calling our son Griffin Griffey, and so that's his name. That's so cute. Okay. Now we have agree to disagree. We need to do these fast because we have so many today. Okay. We don't have to do all of them. I think we should do the best. Yes. I would say. The top agree to disagree ones. Okay. You pick. You head it up. My brain doesn't work. But on the first one for agree to disagree, and this will be you guys saying, I'll give you a countdown, and I'll say three, two, one, and then you can say agree or disagree. Okay? I actually don't know what you're going to say to this based off of our conversation, even though we talked about it a lot. Question number one. Couples should. Couples should live together before getting married. Three, two, one. Agree. Agree. No way. I think so. Yeah. Yeah. I think there is a very special thing about kind of growing up together. Yeah. And I feel like you see just different sides, obviously, when it's constantly together. And I think that, I think we grew a lot, and we had to have hard conversations because of that. Yeah. I don't know if I can, I don't know what to add on that. Because, like, now my brain's, like, thinking about it. I'm like, well, maybe not some people. Okay. But. I'm just going to overthink this right now. Yeah. Okay. Now, now for a follow-up one. Agree to disagree. Couples should wait till marriage. Three, two, one. Agree. Because I feel like that's, like, that's something unique about you guys. I feel like most people's answers would be consistent for those two. Yeah. Yeah. It's interesting. What's your take? I like that. There was something more special. about waiting I think and I think like Braille is my first and last like she's my has been my only girlfriend like only wife you know and so i think there's something special that you're the only person that will ever get to know me fully and i have that connection with you know and um there's something really special about that and i think you know marriage is literally this like it's like a ritual thing anyway you know like you get married and like you have all these things you're supposed to do like the candle or you know whatever it may be that you do and it's like that's a part of it too you know so i don't know i think it was just i don't know what did you mean by like the candle oh sorry like when you like you need the candle oh like yeah well some people do like the sand or the people like sand some people do like everyone has different some people breathe something like the king cake right you change rings that's a ritual i just don't know if you guys like really into candles or something so okay i mean we gave us a candle no agree to disagree carson wears the pants in the household three three three two one yeah i don't know um i think i always just say we're you have to say agree to disagree three two one degree i don't know that was like a mix between both i think we both definitely share a leg i have to say there's two pants in a leg i feel like i have to say agree only because you guys i can say agree you're very like i think i'm just he makes the decisions braille's personality is just like i trust you babe like well she doesn't say babe i wish you did but anyway i trust you i trust you whatever you think like go for it that's like yeah i don't want to make the decisions but matt is the most indecisive person in the world so i feel like i've been forced my leg has been forced into the pants and i'm like i don't well i feel like we like flip-flop because like whenever you whenever he struggles i'm like okay i'll do it and then like vice versa right and and i just think that like naturally he has more of this like leader personality and he he likes to do that like with anyone in his life so that's the only reason i'll say that okay so i guess our answer is agree guys okay that's a good one okay agree to disagree everyone needs to experience living in a tiny home three two one disagree oh really it's so cool though it's really cool but i don't think that everyone needs to experience it but okay the reason why i say agree is because it makes you appreciate the little things but and also when you get into a big space it's going to make you utilize every single space and or more appreciative of how much space you have is this new house going to be like 10 000 square feet no what is it it livable square footage is uh 2200 okay oh man yeah so it's a quadrupling exactly braille's like i was like i don't feel like this is that big i said babe it's four tiny homes it's full when you just see the slap because right now all we have is litter the concrete look small it looks tiny i'm like this is uh how is this going to be this but is it two stories yeah it's two stories okay technically they call it one and a half because it's going to be two bedrooms and a bathroom upstairs but yes it's okay it's two stories okay you know a lot more about building houses than we do i can't believe you're building your own house i'm so dude people say they're building a house they usually mean that they're having builders yeah yeah no like i i want to be out there like a running wire like i would love to i don't think i can legally like do the roof like the shingles and everything but like i would love to that was like one of the most relaxing parts of doing the tiny home was like putting the roof on the tiny home for me i don't know why what are the parts you like can't do electrical right you kind of oh we can uh because my like my uncle they did electrical in um his parents house because it got damaged yeah my uncle is like a licensed electrician so he just he just comes and he kind of tells us like how to do it and he checks everything like you know so yeah like we were able to do it ourselves pretty much everything but the roof then or found yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah roof then or foundation yeah the foundation we had to pay somebody for uh not for the tiny home we did ourselves braille did a phenomenal job with that great job um but uh and plumbing we don't we don't really touch plumbing that much but electrical i i love i i'm a nerd a little bit i love electrical stuff like building computers like yeah yeah that's such a good skill to have yeah i love yeah okay okay agree to disagree having kids made us lose part of ourselves that's a deep one yeah okay i'll give you guys a second let me know when you're ready i'm ready three two one disagree disagree yeah i don't think so do you feel more fulfilled or i always knew i wanted this in life and um i would have people ask me like how do you know she's the one how do you this that and the other how do you know you want to have kids and i'm like there's something about you know i think it had a lot to do with obviously my family like growing up in a big family but i always knew i wanted to have kids as young as i could to have the most amount of my life with them and um i've always wanted to be a dad first you know and a husband um and then an entertainer after probably it's the only thing that i ever wanted to do in life was to be a mom like she is yeah that's all that's you know if you at yeah at five-year-old braille nine-year-old whatever what do you want to be and she said oh you know a mom and a wife that's all she said so i think in ways it uh brought out things in me that i couldn't see next up is it's okay to clap when the plane lands agree to disagree just to switch gears for a second three two one i agree why not do you guys do that not like that i mean um i don't think i've actually ever done it but i think it's funny when people do yeah like especially when it's like oh our plane trip back from disney was it was actually like one of the worst experiences we know which which yeah which earlier we know and it was just like a really bad travel day and so it was like yeah as soon as that plane landed i mean everybody was clapping oh yeah like we landed in arizona after traveling with that king cake two kids two giant car seats a mom and a sister and ten bags oh i was clapping i was clapping well you're telling me though when you guys flew spirit they clapped when the plane landed oh yeah everyone did oh yeah they just were happy yeah oh my gosh yeah we've flown spirit no probably because we're all literally drenched in sweat speaking spirit airlines you guys we moved to arizona flying spirit airlines oh really yes everything that we took with us was on that yes and the rest was like in a u-haul that got like one of those like little boxes yeah we got it like shipped in a box because we like temporarily lived that just had our wedding gifts essentially yeah and then wow and then we flew out here through spirit so r.i.p spirit r.i.p spirit thank you for your service soul mates are real agree to disagree three two one i agree i'm counting them i agree you guys think you're each other's soulmate oh 100 i can't wait to find her in the next life already like 100 yeah what if like she's a tree though like how would that work out you know it depends what i was if i'm a squirrel i'm living in that tree and shoot i'm so serious i'm sorry i want to make a really bad joke anyway i'm not me i'm not oh gosh okay okay i want you so bad okay sorry okay agree to disagree it's a waste of time to make your bed every day agree to disagree three two one agree agree do you guys actually you guys don't make your bed i'm sorry sometimes in a tiny home i feel like no i do sometimes i just like when you actually really think about it it is it's what's the point i mean if we're making a video in the bedroom we'll make it oh yeah that's true or people are coming over yeah no we don't i mean it is pointless we really tried actually when we lived in a studio apartment we did make our bed every day because we had to tuck it up against the wall okay well we i think we did that makes sense we did too we're a little bit for that maybe i mean i don't know maybe not actually when you can't just shut the door to your bedroom so people can't see it and you have to but now we have that i know some people think it's a bad idea but i think it's a bad idea i think it's a people say like it's a good way to start your day because it makes you like you stop i do agree with that i mean i switched it to emptying out the dishwasher yeah there you go that's how more functional useful yeah agree to disagree the second child is easier than the first three two one this i think disagree agree yeah i think disagree disagree oh so the second was harder i don't know i think for us it was a transition yeah not just like not necessarily him like that child but like right the transition was harder um zalia was like the easiest baby ever like i mean she slept through the night at a week old oh my goodness yeah and that's so nice yeah um yeah and um yeah i think it was just yeah it's a lot more than we thought it would be dealing with the both of them yeah god like he's the chillest baby ever and they're so chill like he's a good baby like he wakes up throughout the middle of the night he just has yeah there's different things but it's really just like dealing with both of them yeah together at the same time and then with each other and then also working from home like it's yeah it gets a lot there's more variables exactly i meant to ask you being pregnant twice but also you said that you've experienced health anxiety was pregnancy like a trip then and then birth yeah it's weird because whenever i was pregnant with zalia i that was obviously i didn't know what to do i mean we've seen the test and i was like uh i have to go to the doctor and we have like a family um friend nurse practitioner and I just like texted her and I was like what do I do and she was like you need to go get an ultrasound I was like okay and it was just that's it was so weird I remember feeling like so anxious but then for the second one I feel like I don't mean to cut you off but just to add to what you were saying I feel like for the second one she wasn't as anxious and there was so much more reason to be yeah it's just I'd never done it before but I think that what calmed me in that was knowing that so many people do that and I had so like his family like I think that growing up my like I said my mom had a lot of medical issues so it made me view anything like that doctors hospitals as like a really bad thing because like all I seen was bad things with it and I think that that was the only thing that felt good because I was pregnant you know like we were gonna have a baby and it made me kind of like flip that and be like oh okay like good things come out of going to the doctor you know because like growing up like I my parents didn't even take me to like checkups like I didn't have that just normal doctor life but um yeah the second pregnancy was more towards the end I was way more anxious than the first why do you think that was so I hemorrhaged with my daughter after birth and I didn't even know that was a thing that could happen so it kind of threw me for a loop um but it got kind of they fixed it very quickly I just had like the shot in my leg they didn't have to do I think they only did one to stop the bleeding right was that one shot yeah um so they figured it out and it ended up being fine but I think that I was very nervous it was going to happen again because I learned more about it and I had um I yes with Zalia and we found out I like I think I was like 22 weeks so I started taking iron and then like I remember asking my doctor I'm like is that why and she's like we don't really know exactly why but like that could go in hand with like why women hemorrhage and for Lyric they didn't test my iron until I was like 20 no no diabetes test yeah 30 something weeks no I literally was 35 weeks really it was something and she tells me I'm anemic and I was like I knew that from the first pregnancy so she made sure to get like vitamins with iron in it and like kind of yeah I was trying to like prepare more and they didn't test me until later and so I was like great so I started taking the iron pearls and come to find out it takes like two to three weeks to actually absorb in your body and so I was just I don't know I just felt it I felt very anxious the whole end of it and then uh the birth yeah the birth experience for Lyric was uh it was a rough birth it was um it was the most scariest thing I think I've ever seen in my life oh goodness he wouldn't tell me that though what happened so she wound up hemorrhaging and they said that and I was like um and her doctor wasn't there they have like a resident literally both times I gave birth was at the same time it was literally around 2 a.m and my doctor just like wasn't at the hospital and so that obviously causes like anxiety like you know what a couple minutes right before she didn't yeah she didn't deliver to Zalia but she was in the room but she was there so she knew all the history and everything and she gave her the shot yeah her doctor wasn't even there at all this time and I watched him give Brielle a shot but I remember vividly like from Zalia's like the shot was huge for Zalia that they gave her and this one was like a little bitty thing and so next thing you know you know she gets the epidural out like all this kind of stuff well I remember sitting there whenever my son was like on my chest and I remember um all of a sudden I got this wave of like my like the inside of my body felt cold and like I was like okay I'm tired like I've literally been up for like 24 hours I like I just gave birth like I'm tired so I didn't say anything and I just laid there I'm tired um you hold him and then you're holding him and they come in and they're like for the first time yeah and they come in and they say okay like we're about to move you to a room but you had to go try to use the bathroom first whatever and she's like oh they like you think you can stand up yeah you're good and Brielle's like I mean I guess so they're like I mean are you okay and she's like I guess yeah I mean I guess like I mean I'm tired like I just had a child just pushed out you know and so they start walking her to the bathroom and I'm still holding my son like I'm thinking like they're fine and I just hear them say oh my god call what I don't remember what they called said to be honest they were like call so-and-so whatever and it's like what like what's happening with my wife like in the back like what the freak and so I'm like was my sister there still yeah yeah so I just gave my son like a lyric to my sister and I was like here and like I go in the bathroom and I just do do I do what you did yeah I don't care okay I just seen my wife like this passed out on the toilet where I didn't know my eyes were open and and it was the scariest thing and I'm just like and I'm just like and I'm talking like too I'm like and I'm just I'm staying calm because I'm like if this was to happen she's in the best place I'm like I'm like it's okay you're okay you know she's out like she's out of it and um and then they like they're getting alcohol and like they're they're whatever and like the nurse is freaking out the other one ran out the room to go get somebody whatever they brought the anesthesiologist back yes and the anesthesiologist you could tell she was a little upset and she gave her pressure medicine or some kind of shot whatever and then she bro came to and she's like and this is how amazing bro is the first thing she says when she wakes up she goes I'm so sorry I didn't mean to or whatever I thought I fell asleep yeah well I swear I thought I was they were trying to get me to like pee after that don't be sorry don't be sorry I thought I just fell asleep on them so like I guess I woke up and I thought like dang I really just fell asleep I'm so sorry I didn't mean to do that I was like but I woke up to them like I the alcohol in my nose and then and then I remember I said I'm sorry and they're like no you're okay you're okay and then I was like how long was I out and they were like just a minute just a minute and then I just remember the nurse on my right was asking the nurse on my left if she was okay yeah and I was like she was freaking out and then I look up and I see him kind of looking through the door and then I see the anesthesiologist and she's like yeah her face is literally white yeah she's like she's like her face is white as a wall like I don't know why y'all would put her to like bring her to the bathroom right now they ended up having to give me a blood transfusion and she lost a whole bag a liter a liter of blood so I'm glad that you are here and breathing and everything works out yeah and that you have your babies yes oh my gosh it sounds like a terrifying yeah experience hey but you're like more babies yeah yeah yeah she said she said definitely wait she's like Carson can we wait till uh he's at least three this time ready for another and I'm like you know you're gonna have to give me a moment yeah like she's like Lyric wasn't even here yet and I'm like I'm already ready to come back and she's like Carson I see still on my stomach stop and I'm just like you guys while I was in labor he kept saying that I know we got a tiktok dance to get to so yeah let's let me wrap it up two more and then I think I think Carson that might be the oh oh yeah yeah oh yeah so I'm lucky you wanted to have a turn competition with you no way yeah wait we should totally do that let's do it should we make a little video out of that hell yeah let's do it let's do it okay next we have uh agree disagree we got married too young three two one disagree disagree I wanted to get married younger really yes what is he wanted to get married he wanted to have kids and then get married I did actually yeah no way I did I did but that kind of goes back to wait to marriage though if you think about it I know yeah yeah that wouldn't make sense but yeah no okay okay in my ideal head like like growing up I thought okay I would I would I'm gonna get with you know Brielle we're gonna have a house or apartment whatever we're gonna have a daughter first I swear like this is like all in my head like what I envisioned for whatever reason then we'll get married and our little daughter will be like the little flower girl that's what I always thought why did you think of having kids before getting married was there somebody that like modeled that for you or did you just like the idea of having your daughter be a flower girl at the wedding no um I don't know I think I was more so ready to be a like or wanted to be a dad than like a husband like a husband kind of to me was just like a title I guess maybe I don't know I don't know that's a good question like looking back on it because yeah I kind of forgot I mean yeah you don't really I feel like feel like that anymore no yeah not anymore but I did say that at one point yeah I didn't want to have kids first and it's really funny I guess to be fair to be fair I did not know how kids were made at for a very long time my mom told me my mom told me that like literally up until I was like oh god I was old I was like 14 probably 15 you didn't know no no no literally my mom just said oh you just pray for a baby and I was like oh okay and in my head logically I'm like I'm like you're like why do I have all these feelings mom yeah no I was like logically I'm trying to think I'm like okay so maybe when like people kiss like the spit accidentally gets in like each other's mouth and like that's how it works I swear that's really like how what my brain thought and then you just pray to god and like okay then then she gets pregnant that's I like literally thought that um it's whoever gets the baby jesus yes exactly actually that's what it is yeah whoever gets a baby yeah um yeah so I don't know that's hilarious that is really yeah and last one wait I literally I don't know I don't know I don't know I don't know it was in my head oh yes I I just made this one up this is just for fun there we go agree to disagree everyone needs to experience a Louisiana Mardi Gras agree three two one disagree no I mean I think you should experience the season I think everybody should come down it's I think everybody should experience a crawfish boil I think everybody should experience New Orleans though as well New Orleans yeah it is a such a cool vibe there. It's so unique. you know um we were actually having a talk like on the drive over when you look like at arizona like everything's of similar color like even the buildings like they're kind of like that brown kind of like you know yeah it just looks nice like it's cool to us you know that mud color yeah yeah and new or it's it's the complete opposite it's bright colors everywhere like houses are painted pink green like you name it there's a house somewhere purple pink houses that's oh yeah yeah yeah like like it's a fun little thing like my daughter like we have like a little like e-bike and she's like i want to go look at pink houses and i'm like okay cool we just like drive around like there's pink houses we would be driving a long time here yeah beignets when i think of new orleans i think of beignets yes do you guys eat those a lot dude yeah my mom makes amazing beignets wait have you had the disney ones the disney beignets yes how do they compare they're they're good but they're good they're not yeah they're not okay no i need to go no i love we we still we stay till saturday maybe we can like figure out how to make some beignets your mom you 're mom makes them yeah yeah i don't know why frying feels so scary to me really yeah i think in the south you fry like everything really oh yeah i mean not saying we eat fried all the time because we're not endorsing that i know it's not good for you but like you know yeah that's how you know she's a good cook she knows how to fry some beignets oh yeah no yeah she she can cook anything yeah i'm like i'm like ma when we make it even bigger like we're just we're hiring the personal chef like just like you know that's sweet well carson brielle thank you so much for coming on the show of course thank you what's the best place for people to connect with you guys um we're everywhere we're tick tock instagram um youtube uh we're the matranga family on youtube uh we have our personal accounts mine is creator three underscores uh what is yours brown matranga she's instagram and tick tock yeah and same thing for me instagram and tick tock nice carson matranga created three underscores that's dope but yeah what you got i love that you guys i just talking to you guys i feel like you guys are just ride or die for each other like i love it so much just you make me just i don't know what i'm trying to say i just feel like you guys are such a good team and it's really cool getting to talk to you guys and inspires me hopefully we can get our kids together i think that'd be really fun i think that'd be so fun awesome well thanks for talking with us this was really great this was yes this was awesome thank you guys thank you guys like this is awesome our first official podcast let's go first podcast can we clap wait can we clap at the end of a podcast like as a plane