"Visual Identity" (w/ Matt + Bowen)

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Less clutter, powerful clean. Pick up Pine Sol today in-store or at walmart.com. Use as directed. Look, Matt. Where? Oh, I see. Wow. Bowen, look over there. Wow, is that culture? Yes. Oh, my goodness. Las Culturistas. Ding dong. Las Culturistas calling. Look around. At how lucky we are to be alive right now. Why does it feel like a brand new thing? New podcast. It feels like we're in this. This is episode one of Las Culturistas. We have a set. And we need to take for granted, this is, yeah, this is a first. This is a, we have never actually had a look. A visual identity. We've never had a visual identity. And therefore, we've never really had an identity. This podcast, one of the things, it's received critical acclaim. It's won the iHeart Podcast of the Year Award twice. It's never had an identity until today. This is, this is the best set I've ever been on. And that includes Wicked. - I would move in here. - Yes. - And that includes Wicked? - That includes Wicked. - Say that again on the mic. - This is the best set I've ever been on. - And we're also talking about the vibes. - The vibes. - The vibes in here are better than that of Wicked. - Enaburk, Damaris, our amazing production designer, everyone in this room, y'all fucking tore this shit up. This is amazing. A round of applause for everybody. This is amazing. - Thank you guys. - And in a second, we're gonna fly in the champagne, but not before we say this. There's a fridge here. With the, the thing is we're living in a post there's a fridge era. Look what he's got. And by the way, we haven't been recording like live 'cause we took a little break. - Yes. - The amount of times that Celsius has come up on this podcast, why aren't we the face of Celsius? - I think, I think there too, I think they must have some exclusivity with the Theo Vons of the world where they're like we can't give those gay guys. - Well, one thing I'll say is we really are giving it away for free. - We are. - We are, we're just. - And yeah. Meanwhile, like we slay an ad read. - Listen, if you write us a good, if you write us a good ad. - And if you, if a human being writes us an ad. - Which is what, which is what brings us to the top. - And the topic of the episode, which is AI. - Wait. - We obviously are. - What is that? No, I, today, this morning, Greta shows me some girl, random girl, God bless her. - Love random girls on the internet. - Greta just goes, you need to see this. It was a girl at the beach going. I mean, can we just pause for a sec on how terrible data centers are and just say, please pick up your trash off the beach and that'll make things a little better. - She wants to start at the beginning. - At the very beginning. - She wants to, she's saying there's so many things we haven't figured out yet before we move on to data centers, which is so complicated. We can all agree, pick up your trash on the beach. - I, and she's not wrong, but she's not right. - I have to tell you, there are so many people out there who are so incredibly wrong whilst being incredibly right. - Us? - We're wrong all the time. - You'll see today, many times. You ask for a culture catch up, you're gonna get it. Get one and let that be the occasion. - Let that be occasion. And speaking of occasions, let's fly in the flutes and the champs. ♪ It's the reason for the season ♪ - Thank you so much. - Thank you, thank you. - Real glass, so everyone be careful. - Everybody be careful. - They didn't make the set safe for us babies. Okay, VoveClicko, I feel like Mariah and it's the 30th anniversary of Daydream. - Of Daydream. Oh, and there's an amazing, thank you. Thank you, sir. Love one. You're such a handsome guy, pours me champs. - Well, we have to usually go to some sort of airline for that. - Yes. - Talk to one of those gay guys who run the show. Oh, flight attendant. That's what they're called. - That's what they're called. - To them, to us and to-- - Day one of this podcast. - Day one of this podcast. And we said, maybe this is the 500th. - Yes. - We'll see what we feel. - I bet we're closer to 600 than we are 500 at this point. - It's so crazy we haven't said something yet. It is, can I say, I'm now clocking minutes into this podcast. It's so crazy that the first thing that happened and that we've already cheersed and if you think we're not gonna cheers again, you're deeply mistaken. You're one of the wrong people. Bowen will be starring in "Oh Mary" as Mary on Broadway! - Clink. - Clink for a third time! - I don't wanna talk about it. No, I'm happy to talk about it. - Don't ask him about his process, you vultures. - I'm happy to talk about my process. - Can we though? Because I've known about this now for-- - It's been months. - It has been a very long time and it's hard. It's hard not to say that Bowen Yang is in "Oh Mary". - But the, I had, you know, I had to like lie a bunch. - Yeah. - I had to do the thing where people were like, I heard and I'm like, oh no, it's, it fell through. - It's, it fell. - Because-- - Oh, you went as far as to say, so in the reality you confirmed that it happened and it fell through. - That, because I was like, that's the best way to sort of, most credible. - It's most credible because Sam put the fear of God in me. He was like, it was just such a bummer because Maya, the news about Maya leaked before we announced and it was just a real fucking bummer. And I was like, oh no, I better keep this under wraps. I'd been telling everyone. - Yeah. - I mean, I-- - How soon after you found out that I know? - About-- - I'm also trying to figure out when you told me. - It was like a week after 'cause I think you were still, you were in LA, like I wanted to tell you in person, - Flitting off. - Flitting off? - I was flitting off in LA, doing God knows what. - What have you been doing in LA? - We're not talking about me yet. Don't worry guys, soon you're getting some of me. But okay, so you're saying process. - Process. So literally could not have happened without you. - What? - Because who do we run into at the Tony's, but the queen, Michelle Uranowitz. - Yeah. So I knew Michelle from school. She was a standout actress. She's become your acting coach in this regard. - She's become the-- - The girl. - Girl, the movement queen she throws. She holds classes for anybody. - Yes. - Through, via Tish, I believe. - Yeah, I've only ever known her as being the coolest person I've been in a room with when I was in a room with her. And then actually we had never really met until that night. - I didn't really meet her, I didn't really meet her until like the summer either. - Right. And so then I am thrilled to hear, I think because I told you, I had this great conversation with her, that you were gonna work with her for "Oh Mary". - You inspired me. - I'm happy to inspire. Always happy to inspire. - But you always do. - Okay, so you've been cracking shit open or what? - Yes, and this woman, she gets elemental with it. 'Cause I've like worked with people before, like in a coachy capacity. And it's been great. It's just like, I walk away from them being like, "Okay, I think I get it." - Yeah, but this you're viscerally getting it. - I'm so, in the pocket is not the right term. I just, I'm neurally linked. She, I am her banshee. She is my avatar. She is my nugget. - She's riding you, but you're neurally linked. - I am- - Neurally, could it be a word? We'll find out. - It is a word. - Dr. Ramos, neurally. - Neurally, yes. - N-E-U. - Sounds like a startup, but yes. R-A-L-L-Y? N-E-U-R-A-L. Yeah, you got it. when are we doing oh wait trusting you meaning in a way that relates to nerve nervous system or electronic an adverb absolutely we are nearly connected it's actually rule of culture number three we are nearly connected who's the banshee who's the navi this is so fascinating i think we're we swap i think you are the brain you look you look and this is a compliment you look like i've been told this so many times and it came up again obviously because we did go to the world and we'll get to it again soon don't worry guys because you're gonna get a lot a little bit more of me and disney updates but first this so that's all i'm just i'm so excited yeah um yeah so you're nearly linked to someone who is guiding you to yes to the beach in an avatarian navian sense because where do they go in flight of passage they go to the beach they go everywhere everywhere oh you guys in flight of passage and we're gonna get more into it in a little bit but they go everywhere they go heaven now uh and funnily enough she also worked with miss betty gilpin uh-huh who you have to watch widow's bay i all i've heard is that okay so i want to say two things one i will watch this because it's you're it's so for you it's it's i'm incapable of resisting the idea of betty gilpin you said that's why i watched the hunt you said this about lady gaga during art pop era when you were like yeah yeah i like gaga but you said the words i will always be interested in what she's doing you remember that i said that 2013 by the way i was like what 20 like 22 22 years old i'm saying i will always be interested in what lady gaga is doing in art pop era that means a lot can i say i was recently confronted about what my top three gaga albums were okay you can't take art pop out of that top three no way you can't you can try physically to attack me i have studied the ways in which people try to wrestle art pop from a little monstrous top three you won't be getting that i don't think that happens anymore well not anymore but back in the day we've had to be very vicious in our defense i think we're gonna have this treatment to chromatica i already see it starting and i'm not interested in having the conversation but just know i'm learning how to defend myself against the attacks lest they come so widow's bay should they come should they widow's bay i think you would enjoy i have to i have to watch it i will say people don't necessarily understand how sensitive i am when i say i'm sensitive because i had a what panic attack before the hillary duff concert because someone described to me the perez hilton video someone described it to me which was their first mistake i hit the ground this was a good friend of yours who should have known not to go into detail about the perez hilton self-mutilation dave mazzoni doesn't know better than to not do that at this point and that's why i love dave because he will just be himself yeah no matter what always i love the man love him he he i was i'm like know that you were a little bit stoned can we reveal well let's just say i was at one of i was at one of my favorite restaurants before seeing one of your favorite artists before seeing our girl oh my god i'm so sad i couldn't go bowen got sick i got sick you you think disney jones were the none of y'all got sick melissa got sick i think there's something tactile and i do want you to say we're making a lot of people brave today the born this way foundation one of the things about this at this podcast last culture recess is it's one of the key elements of the born this way foundation and we've been working with cynthia for years oh my god um wait by the way i know we're going to talk about the girls today but i just want to say i'm having such a gaga moment again yeah i'm just i'm what's what what brought this on i don't know can i tell you something you were watching interviews of her you know how there's famously three eras circus surveillance well christmas and um then there's another one circus surveillance and christmas circus surveillance christmas and like like summer sure like zara larson right now and maybe forever i do think zara larson should be summer forever and i'm gonna tell her that yeah yeah when she comes because i think she has an opportunity if she wants to be jimmy buffett coded and someone should take that lane i don't want it to have to be me no and it should be a swedish person i'm just saying zara larson at this rate could have a margaritaville if she's funny enough she's she gives you it's the seashells it's the delectable pop yeah it's the delectable it's it's the it's like a swedish gummy so i guess what i'm what i'm trying to say is i i just i feel like when i'm listening to gaga i'm having more fun and a lot of the girls right now are discussing in their music lyrically this is how i feel about my station in the public eye authenticity which plays into surveillance yes which is bearing down on all of us and i think it's like it's kind of like sometimes they all get the same idea but in different ways because i think it's obviously a cultural response and i think they're all sort of responding to comment and perception culture at the same time um it's the taylor charlie are already trifecta at this moment yeah they're all at this time have recently like gone about authenticity in their own individual ways yes and so mayhem was just a moment a bit ago that we weren't doing that i will also say this opens up a huge avenue for me to be enjoying the fuck out of confessions too which we have not discussed on this podcast because we haven't not had the opportunity to do exactly exactly dan ceteria feels like a song we've always had well it's it's vogue new basically it's like these are the names of people i love and and here we go and this was the vibe at density i hope that if i ever run into debbie mazar on the third floor that we that it whatever we're doing turns into a party well well debbie i have to imagine that debbie's a little bit like fuck now that's this is what everyone's going to be saying to me from the for the rest of my life do you think she's mad though where did the champagne go oh no no so you brought it all the way over there i think debbie and madonna have a really i'm just gonna i'm totally just because debbie mazar came up i feel like i should have a full champagne i have such a beautiful and also complicated thank you thank you so much oh my god we also have to talk about speaking of beautiful and complicated relationships with madonna we also have to talk about who we ran into literally the other night after a little shop of horrors when we went to yes say it with us bar central rosie rosie o'donnell we just ran into her and the first thing she says to us is she looks at matt she goes you said that nice thing about me at the and then i grabbed both and then i grabbed both her hands in line both i said and i clutched them and i said i did and it's because i love you so much and you should have been up there and then she was like she was like you know that was very kind she didn't like agree and say yeah i should have that did not happen she remained graceful i don't think she wants to be on a stage i think she's fine with being on and watch what happens yeah i don't think she wants to be on a on display like that so so that like the you know the people that she's dealt with 100 i do just think sometimes and don't worry because we then quickly pivoted to how much she needs to come on the podcast and i do think we'll have a time with her i think we would have a time um but i will say that we would i think benefit from the healing moment that would be restoring rosie o'donnell to a place where she can entertain us en masse because i think she's one of the most important and effortless yes comedian slash host and who really put that first part first that we've had the privilege of being able to have access to and the fact that our access to her was just cut off for me is shitty i agree i think a lot of the cut offness is her own choice sure and i i don't think we should force her out into the open although it's it's it's it's an invitation at least to come here of course although she did take our show she did it did surprise me and delight me that she was so flattered by your comment uh first of all and i realize you hadn't met yet so you had never never met her so i turned i'm like do you know bowen and then she said i believe you guys classed both hands i don't remember i was blocked out as in like i was emotionally let me correct the record no i was not i was not on anything i was just i was just i was very emotional meeting her i i for some reason knew that you would feel that way it's rosie o'donnell not since meredith marks have i been so sure oh that you would need encouragement i was thinking about you what that you would need encourage that you were rosie so overwhelmed after meeting rosie the rest of that no i i honestly like it must be ♪ With medication talking ♪ because i am not nervous anymore to like be like hey like i don't know i would have went under the table two years ago i love the table was that is that anything it must be the medication talking is that anything sounds like jimmy buffett it's well jimmy buffett could never he was never on meds and i want to just respectfully because i realized what i just did i said jimmy buffett could never after i sang that wasn't the way jimmy buffett sang you know what i mean it sounds like uh meatloaf jimmy buffett like it's like some kind of it's kind of giving uh not kenny rogers but not not you know what i mean who's saying i'm zoom stream yeah kenny rogers right yeah why where are my kenny rogers people i'm looking at every single person in the eyes and it's like oh there you are becca ramos there's my kenny rogers girly must be the medication talking song there is well i knew what i did i knew what i was doing was brand new i was just asking is it anything like is it a hit it is not a hit you it is not a hit your next album is supposedly about vacation but i think you can make it a you can sort of fold in the surprise which is it's about being medicated well i'm going to grand rapids for four days to see the boys actually over actually put pen to paper i love that you should go to saga talk what's that i think it's the gay it's the epcot yeah yeah yeah oh and denseteria did we talk enough about madonna probably not probably not i mean i don't fuck with it amazing well i just i i will one of my favorite moments ever i'm realizing was just her on that german show being like i have a problem with the fact that i that it's hot and there's no air in here i'm suffocating suffocating open the door now it's unbelievable i can know and the best part she's unbelievable she says it for the end i don't know what she goes just give me a fan just give me a fan the last line last line is i can't even think to answer a question 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ground to say nothing of by the by the way i was back in like 30 minutes and i got that hillary duff show looked amazing she brought a good charlotte she's saying she brought out good charlotte they sing the anthem part two yes they did bowen part one that goes which by the way kicked off a whole couple days of nostalgia listening for me i ended up listening to yellow card oh wow last night can i just say something broken these fragile things now and i can't i can't pick up the pieces we really we had a really nice because like we were we were forced to listen to a bunch of different shit all the time yeah we had eclectic taste because you had to use the radio and they had answered a lot of people yeah yeah um okay oh by the way she was amazing why is roommates the best song why is mature still the best song by the way you know who we were next to doug peck oh just love being at a show with doug peck because i look over during the singing and and he opens up his eyes to be like yeah michelle uranowitz is the doug peck of acting to me really good to have that person which she in your life which she legends who know the fucking craft what are you most excited about doing in o'mary is there the i i hired another coach actors accent access she's a she's a lady who lives in the uk and for the audition i was like i want to go scouse or brummie birmingham or liverpool got it even though in the script it does say cockney and sam if you want to push back on this and rehearsal you haven't yet had this conversation i'm prepared to do it scouse i'm prepared to do it live a poo i think that that would be good even just from hearing you say that one word i think it'll be good i think you need to follow your heart because the way a scouse person would say live about she would she would go i'm prepared to do it live a poo i'm prepared to do it live a poo i'm prepared to do it live a poo rip the trousers it's like almost it's scottish it's it's very groundskeeper willie yeah um i'm excited to do that i'm excited to do the medley have you medley i'm so nervous but yes i'm so why are you nervous it's it's just a lot it's just a big jazz i mean it's just it's closes out i mean not to spoil but it's just it's an amazing it is a reverie like i have to meet it at the reverie anyway um except september 15th through december 6th through december i will not be on october 3rd and 4th what's happening then my dad is getting an award for engineering in washington dc and i he's treating it like the biggest honor anyone's ever received in the history of the world which it kind of is and i love him and then hannah solo will hannah solo will tread the board you're gonna get to spend so much i can't wait you're gonna be inseparable that's what i'm most excited about is hanging out with hannah and like julian and like yeah barrett and philip like everybody like i'm so like that is such a great group i went to go to i met them at din tai feng one day uh-huh because it was simu's last weekend and simu took them all out because simu was mary's teacher and simu took them all out to din tai feng and he was a cum and i was like and that was right when i was like i think i'm gonna do it um and we all ate dumplings together and they were it was just a such a sweet vibe they were like we love every like everyone just loves each other it's so cute and then they they're like meg's having a great time with them it looks like it i mean they're up to their antics they're up to their antics i do have to go see that i see meg god i have It always feels like you turn the corner and there's a new, because now they announced Lolly is going to do it in the UK. And I was supposed to, I'm also bummed I'm not going to be able to see Ari's tour. I was supposed to go to the UK. I know. No, I'm not going anymore. Darn it. Yeah. She's singing Petal. I know, she's singing some of Petal. So shall we about Petal? Absolutely. Petal, for me, it's like horny enough where it satisfies the pop star Ariana thing. Yes. And like, I don't know, lyrically, like is it actually this feral thing that's saying everything and going no holds barred? No. But the way that she kind of like characterizes her audience here, which is like that perceptive, the people that are talking about her, works as Ariana Grande as well. Like I do in Big Fiends. Feelings, I think, are about the subject of the audience, but she's able to map them in ways that I really enjoy Ariana Grande doing. I think the feralness, the feral, if that's the right word, the noun, I think that is in the conception of it. But I think in the execution of the album, it is like about restraint. She like, she's going to belt at the fucking show. She's not going to belt. She's going to keep it well placed and ethereal on the track. It is in conflict very purposefully with the production as in like the noise, which is what this album is about. It's about her versus the noise of being like one of the most like talked about people. And pretty genius, I think. And I think a lot of people have a lot to say about like, what is she singing about? What is she frustrated about? That she's not being specific enough. But I feel like it's the specificity is all projected in that. It's like already preconceived by the audience. It would feel cheap if she were to come out and be like, this is what this is exactly how I feel. I feel like what makes her the daughter of Mariah to me is that in retrospect, Mariah still allowed you to project a lot onto her early. She never sang about. Exactly. She was never like Tommy's doing this to me. It was like even in Butterfly and, and all through emancipation, even like how she was feeling about her circumstances because Mariah, just as much as Ariana was picked the fuck apart and always found her craft to be her like guiding light through that. So for me, it's like the way that Ariana is also the daughter of Mariah is she's thinking about things in a more artistically and musically holistic way. Ariana Grande knows what her voice can do just like Mariah did. And she, she's scaping a track like Ariana Grande is saying this is the way because I think she's even said that her most her actual talent is not her voice, even though she knows it's technically special. Her real talent is her ear. Yeah. Her, her voice is not her only instrument. And so she's using the instruments that she has at her disposal as a producer to create this thing. And to me, it's like, that's why she's just like far and away the most technically proficient and therefore inventive, pop star that we have. That's why she's on Ableton or logic or whatever. Yeah, that's like she's, she gets, she's in flow state because this is her real art, right? It's putting it is putting these sounds together. That's why like that, that video goes viral of her doing positions where she's layering and she was like, move that back. I want to come in on the, like it's, yeah, she, she's, she gets all galaxy brain with that. Yeah. Um, I think that is what people are maybe not totally bringing to the fore with this conversation. It's like, this is all incredibly by design. She's been recording since January, February. Um, the songs are, the songs are very adaptable to her and the audience, right? Like, yeah, you, you want to look back on these albums and be like able to project on them. You don't want them to feel dated or like they're trapped in time, which like, I don't know. I don't think everyone is as successful as she is when they try to tackle the perceptions and, and when, when an artist decides, okay, like right now, what I'm going to focus on is everyone else focusing on me. That is tough to accomplish because you don't always succeed in not just feeling like a total narcissist who has all these tools at their disposal. Like she's creating a lot of stuff. Like I don't need to know anything about her to have sex to like, I do. You know what I mean? Like, I don't care. That's also, I've, I'm on the record. That positions was my fuck album of the pandemic. You've said that I don't need to know anything about it was everyone's fucking album. Not like me. If you had seen me positions was my election album, unfortunately, an election and cause it came out around November, 2020. I mean, it certainly did. Well, what was my election out? We all had one says song of the summer, bitch. What's your election? The election. That's really cool. Your number eight. Everyone says song of the summer bitch. What's your album of the election? I mean, I will say that I've never seen such a positions ask candidate then Abdul. I'll say, Ed, what does that mean? Howdy? What I'm saying is I think that people saying he reminds them of, of Obama. I think what you're saying is you would put you, you are attracted to this political candidate at this moment. You want to take her so inspiring and, and in an actual way you want to take your oven, met your girl, your mitten or whatever they call it in Michigan. I think they call it, they call it all sorts of weird things. I'm so I would, I'm, I'm so happy to have a break from discourse where you hear this word said this way, Michigander. I don't think we're having a break from that. Well, I don't think we're having never shade. We're about to go into an election. The primary is over aware of that, but Michigan is very, and you're about to go there. I am going to go to grand Rapids, but I'm going to see people who don't say it. Like Michigander. How are you supposed to say it? I'm sorry. Well, I mean, I'm not here to teach a Shakespeare acting lesson about Michelle Uranowitz herself movement and more, but I will say something like this would be nice. Michigander. Michigander. Michigander. You want to, you want to be a little British influx from Madonna with that. Get me, just give me a fan. Just get me a fan. Michigander. Well, she's a Michigander. She's a, there you go. It goes back to Madonna slash Michigan. It's actually real culture. Number six, Madonna is a Michigander is a Michigander. I can't even think to answer a question. So funny. She's so funny. Okay. We have to reveal something. What? We actually were supposed to host her album release party in New York, and she was coming on the pod. And unfortunately it didn't work with her dates. They had to move around. And we, we were because we needed a break. We were committed to having a break in July. And the break was an occasion for the set to be built. It was the reason for the season. That is the set. I just want to say, get into it. I was really kind of, kind of scared. You will feel so vindicated. The entire time we were in the black sort of liminal space, the void, the void. You were like, I don't, I don't know. And I was like, I don't know. I think it works. It's very like, anti-set. Like every podcast has a set right now. I think ours, it's so refreshing that ours is just black curtains and white chairs. I never liked it. And I, and I have to agree, but I'm always willing to try things. Gentlemen. I just, I want to apologize. You don't have to apologize to me because it's good that we tried. Everything happens for a reason. Are you, is this clocking to you? You said to me after you, uh, panic attacked to the press Hilton moment and then rallied for H stuff and rallied for H stuff. I was like, Oh my God, are you okay? I can't believe that happened. I'm so sorry. You said sometimes it doesn't clock to people that I'm so sensitive. And I was kind of a bitch. And I was like, yeah, it really doesn't clock to people. Yeah. But then I'm on the ground, like in Soho, fully me on the ground in Soho. It took me three tries to get up. Were you like all like, like I'm all because, someone's simply described what happened. So then it was so the video, it was so whole, like at like, like during the happy hour time, I would describe the time as being 6:15 PM. Yeah. You were on the ground and people were just kind of walking past you. They hate me in the streets, Bowen, but when they hate me in the streets, they see me coming in the streets, the streets, the streets are a little bit, the streets are a little bit, uh, suffused with something manic right now. Oh, you don't say, could it be Amazon like humidity, which was something I saw actually reported. They described it that way. Let me also get you in to my perspective on this. I, I'm at, I get a text again at a time I would describe a 6:15 PM from my friend, Alyssa. Oh my God. I have a random ticket that I got. I ran an extra ticket to, uh, Olivia Rodrigo amazing pop up show at Warsaw in green point. Tiny, tiny space. tough i go there olivia you are the girl you are the one it was 110 degrees and you suspect that she cut a few songs from i have a feeling because she didn't play vampire didn't play vampire and didn't play begged didn't play begged and didn't play vampire that's not to say that the set list wasn't incredible she's now at the point where she's got three excellent albums and for cutting the show short for someone i was with was mad that she chose to do making the bed instead a couple things and i was like you better let that girl do making the bed if she wants to do let her do making the bed let her do making the bed also another thing i love about that crowd not kids right because you go see olivia rodrigo in concert and it's like okay there's kids screaming you never know this was like cool brooklyn people in their 20s and 30s warsaw green point she was great it was 120 degrees then i looked it up and they were like oh it's because temperatures are coming up from 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added nyc the west coast and alaska so whether you want golden hour off california or full cinematic glacier core main character energy they said range and the awards at this point it's less award-winning cruise line and more do we just engrave their name on the trophy already they've won so many travel awards the ships might sweep our culture awards over 20 eateries epic entertainment fitness classes wi-fi all included luxury without the nickel and diming virgin voyages sailors consider yourselves called all right i did make a little bit of a list here so that we don't make sure that we don't make sure that we don't make sure that we don't that okay and let's just actually read the list as i wrote it because i think we so we went to disney yeah and i wrote down i will literally never forget you we went on the kilimanjaro safari at the animal kingdom a ride that some might say you kind of do to pass the time if you're waiting for flight of passage no i'm not anymore i hadn't been on the kilimanjaro safari ride for many years it's at disney's animal kingdom should you want to go we were rained not rained down what happened was avatar went down okay and sometimes rides they go down totally and it's not an indictment it's just what happens sometimes with these technological marvels and so we had to we had time we time our we went on the expedition everest we had one friend with us patrick foley he didn't do so well we had time we had time we had time we had time we had time but the start of his arc was that was the start of his arc by the end he was loving life loving life on detron twice adored guardians of the galaxy cosmic rewind yeah uh and then but then no to to wait for our time uh flight of passage we went on the kilimanjaro safari tour our driver and our guide we were the luckiest people star cast member angel throughout the entire property literally named angel named angel saying things like i was hoping to see these girls referring to flamingos yeah i was hoping i would see these ladies i was hoping i would see these ladies or or or a group of elephants oh they're over there having a key look those elephants are having a key uh what else did he say no there was one moment where we were we were about to start the tour and we were kind of you know feeling our oats we were like whoo excited for the not the tour safari safari which by the way it's actually really culture it's really culture number five a safari is a tour of animals animals so we finally start and before he's about to pull us into the safari area he goes and i can't even lie to you i'm actually really excited and then the best the best and then towards the end we see we see a wild ostrich walking alongside us yes kind of like showing off yeah angel says oh look at her stomping the runway and then as we disembark we were we all gave angel a huge round of applause huge a star because we also saw so many animals it was a little overcast we saw a lion and that the lion was crazy the lion perched regally we were like this is crazy apparently that is the time to go if it is overcast this vibe there were zebras this is this is a pillow on the new set i don't know what to do with it and i was saying it's too specific to be ai it's too like a pink zebra with like i just goat horns can i can anyone answer where this came from we'll ask damaris this we have to know more about we have to know about the artist you know what i mean like we have to know more about this because it's like everything is so and there's a lot of um jungle like animals in here it's kind of giving the kilimanjaro safari i wanted the panther i requested a panther you did okay yes yes what about her is this a monkey that's a monkey um yeah there's a lot of animals oh there's a whale tail whale tail my responsible way and then obviously these okay so anyway so okay so then as we disembark yeah we applaud angel we say we love you angel amazing job amazing that is the time to go on the kilimanjaro safari angel says these words i will literally never forget you i will literally never forget you and i was like that is just like an ear hit for the ages i went on the disney app i left a great comment and i left a comment i commended i had never done this before in my life angel if you're listening anyone who works at wdw please send this one to angel at animal kingdom you have to like if you get angel driving your safari know that you will literally never forget him and I also want to say thank you to what we went there and imagine we met Imagineering we met Imagineering we did the rock and roller coaster starring the Muppets so we are the occasion for going was after we had a after it was our honor to host Miss Piggy at the Culture Awards to promote the honor was ours the honor was ours to promote the rock and roller coaster starring the Muppets Disney Imagineering invited us to the parks they did and then gave us an amazing experience we did do the rock and roller coaster fabulous and it was fabulous I I we had one thing after which was where was Miss Piggy found out she's in the pre-show she's in the pre-show you get a different pre-show our pre-show featured Kermit yes and I was happy to see him I was very happy to see Kermit and don't worry because this is why you do repeat writings this is why you do repeat writings that's how you get Miss Piggy and I have to say Kermit is dressed in a hoodie yeah Kermit looked hot in it Kermie looked hot not me thinking Kermit was hot watching the pre-show of rock and roller coaster starring the Muppets and then Kermit comes up and you're like huh interested Kermit with the kind I said and I was I was kind like kind eyes and a big mouth you know who kind of gives Kermit phrase phrase razor oh kind of gave Kermit yeah you know what I mean like in so many ways in all the best ways really sweet so sweet I know little slip of a thing oh yeah he's Kermit he's kind of Kermit that made you Piggy I absolutely miss Piggy hi-ya hi-ya it's all good there by the way I know everything's wonderful it was just literally oh isn't there open up the phone when will I see you next never well you're like okay isn't there can I just say in our 30s isn't there nothing better than like an amicable separation there is no room for anything but that yeah well and it it would bum me out so much I know to have like that go down again but I will say I'm definitely dating again because I went out the other night and I don't like this guy well I had one of the it was one of the worst kisses in recorded history and it did happen in Central Park and he also did that little bit of little bit of a thing and lovely guy yeah but little bit of a thing where there was like some weird little choking hands on the clavicle and I was like it was just like wait a minute well this is dating in New York sometimes you die in Central Park I wanted this lifestyle move back that Carrie Bradshaw lifestyle sometimes you're just getting a little choked out and a choked out lifestyle Central Park itself a choke on the first kiss is really wild which was going bad in public which was going bad I mean no no no don't worry it was in a place in Central Park that was extremely private no one would have known if I had died right and he did say he did that thing that sometimes happens when when you're on a date when you're let's say Matt Rogers yeah or someone with a podcast he goes oh and I'm not a fan I'm not a fan and I was like oh yeah because I did have to ask because I did one time go on a date I was dating someone who about six dates in was like I'm obsessed with you was like I actually have to tell you something I'm a huge fan of your podcast allowing me to like have said so many things right it's not like with you where it's like you're Bo and Yang and so they know who you are like I occupy a different tier which is like you know they may not so when I'm on a date with someone having a nice time I do sometimes I'm like can I just ask you like what is the familiarity with me because I believe anything totally and he let me know that he was not a fan and that I was like as a C-list celebrity I kind of have to ask and he and I didn't know if it was a joke or not I was like I would say you're more D-list and I was like that's his way of flirting but for me I think it was like a way of flirting and I was just like oh maybe that's funny but then minutes later I would have a terrible kiss and be getting choked so it's like for the maybe that's funny like that's don't worry I hung out with him for two more hours we're so back there's literally and Celeste said this when you were telling us this over drinks the other night they were like you can just like end the date early just be like I gotta go can I tell you something I wasn't having like a bad time totally but it doesn't need to be a bad time for it to be like this is this is a waste of time I didn't even think it was a waste of time you know what it was like it's like you know when you're on a date with someone and you're like this is weird but it could become suddenly hot at any moment which usually just means let me drink more you know what I mean it usually just means like maybe what I should do is just wait this out see if it gets interesting aka I get drunk right and then I remembered oh right I'm 36 not 26 despite the fact that everyone on every dating app is 26 so you can change your age range gotta figure out how to do that I guess yeah because definitely certainly most deaf I'm seeing all 26 year olds and they're all in private equity which did you hear is the hot new accessory this summer a private equity boyfriend hot new okay hot new accessity accessity hot new accessory oh like is of course the private equity boyfriend love that love what they do which is to kind of drive down value well I think it's like a rite of passage to tell everyone what you stand for and then go opposite all of that because of dick it happens all the time yeah and I think we should allow people to do it once maybe twice depending on the dick they can do it a couple times yeah you can you get to do it you get to be like you get to be Laverne Cox you get to date a cop just to try it yeah you know I completely understand that thing of being attracted to she didn't date a cop she just dated a MAGA person she did well I thought she dated a MAGA cop yeah yeah okay anyway it was both okay I get being attracted to something you absolutely should not be attracted to and it must suck to be in the public eye and also have that like thing where you don't want to shut down your life or you don't want to you know and then all of a sudden like oh yeah you made that mistake you're supposed to make in private you fucked that person you're supposed to be fucking in private and you're in public so now you're kind of this is what I'm saying this is the authenticity trap and people who listen to this podcast love that word yeah um it's it's giving surveillance state it's like hold on why the fuck am I supposed to like it's it's fear of being seen it's the anxiety of being seen it's like which we're all sort of like it's like reject all cookies reject all cookies because to be seen is to be judged which is to be you know perceived and then understood as being something that didn't and most likely it's a misunderstanding right right right so anyway whatever but that's that's interesting to even think about the fact that like that's what everyone it feels like is talking about right now in art because I do feel like all the um like you know what I mean like even in a weird way in films like with like Disclosure Day and stuff it's like it's like if people knew everything this isn't exactly a good one to one but it is like no no no but it's it's pretty applicable it's about how people might feel if they had the real or the right information yes and it's like that's kind of interesting in our culture that that's even such a topic it's like we know this and you know this and that is the tension that everyone that exists in everything yes is it's like you know this lack of understanding despite almost total knowledge or something yeah right or not almost total but just like a set of facts that like people I haven't seen the movie me neither can I tell you what's driving me actually it was gonna be I don't think so honey maybe it still will be when people talk about someone's when people talk about someone's face actually acting oh my god Zendaya's face acting Zendaya's face acting in this scene was amazing do you mean her acting acting what her face acting like when someone like cause it just came up with Disclosure Day at the end the reporter yes yes and everyone's gagged over her who slays down and they were like her face acting was some of the best face acting I'd ever seen I was like guys what she's also acting with her body you mean still in this moment you mean nonverbal which is slay I don't know I guess yeah maybe what they're trying to say is her silent performance or what she did with just her eyes or what she conveyed in this moment her face acting suggests a removal from the physical body suggests like an absence of anything facial during dialogue correctamundo Bo correctamundo Bo trying it out I like it correctamundo Bo how about this Bo Mary it's gonna be oh you You coined Bo Mary. Bo Mary. Yeah, okay, go. After we record this episode, Troye Sivan is coming in to talk about all sorts of things and being Troye Sivan. We should drop Correctamundo into the episode until he calls it out. We should call him Tro until he calls it out. You want to call him Tro? I'll call him Tro. Tro! Here's what we're going to do. And you guys can see next week if it panned out. You try calling him Tro like a bunch and see when he calls it out. Yeah. I bet I'm not the first person. And I will say Correctamundo until he calls it out. And then if he's able to by the end of the episode, and please keep us honest here, Becca, can you keep us honest about this? We will say, so there was actually a hidden game happening during the episode. We've never done this on Lost Gulch. And what was weird about the episode? And if he says like, you were calling me Tro and you were saying Correctamundo, that's really good. And I actually want to try something with him that we should start on this episode. Three-way. Three-way. Feel the rush. Feel the rush. To the crush. We need to start Queer Handshake. The official Queer Handshake. What will it look like? So we should start the first move. Oh. So this, and then what's after that you and I establish and then he adds on. Okay, cool. Should we start right now? Yeah, what should it be? Okay, so it'll be like. You want to start? Okay, so that's the first one. That's the first one. No, no, no. And then after that. Oh. I have an idea. Yeah. Pull it back. Okay, great. So starting wide. Yeah. Like. That's great. There's a. So then like, I think we build the handshake with select guests. Oh my God, perfect. Okay, so Troy is next week. Troy's next week. Spike and Honey. Spike and Honey. That will be good. That will be good. And then I think we'll go from there. And we'll go from there. We just don't want to say because the next person is not confirmed confirmed. Right. But sometimes that's a way to confirm confirm is to say it live on the podcast so that people feel bullied to do Lost Culture East. I need to. We need to talk about Five Star Weekend. Is that on the list? Yeah. It's just another reason to get emotional today because it wasn't on the list. And I'm realizing how wrong that was because you're absolutely right. We need to talk about the Five Star Weekend, a show whose podcast I also listen to. The official one. Love that. That's a rule of. If you. You fucking love a show if you're listening to the podcast of it. That's rule of culture number 78. I listened to Chloe Sevigny get interviewed about actually her surprising ties to Nantucket. Really? Yeah. Yeah. I don't think that Chloe Sevigny is connected to Nantucket but she actually has very surprising ties to it. She's an East Coast girl. I think if you're an East Coaster you've got. You've visited Nantucket. Can I say something? That's not true. As an East Coaster not everyone has the ties to Nantucket. It shouldn't be surprising that you've been to Nantucket. You would be surprised the ties that she has to Nantucket which made her want to participate in this show which her fans have been surprised to see her in. No, literally. As a fan I was surprised and delighted that she played a townie so well. Chloe Sevigny as a mass hole townie is so fun. It's really good and she's also not because she's like refined in Nantucket. She's not a mass hole. I don't think she's a mass hole. No, she's not a mass hole. I was being an ass hole when I said that. An ass hole in New York. Wait. Okay, I just did Colin Bedell's podcast. All of his astrology content I've been following for years and he's starting a new podcast and they were like what'd you do? I was like yes. I'm such a fan. I mean I did it over the weekend. He read me down. Didn't read me down. He like really got it. He's so smart. What was said. He's always so fucking smart and I said to him I was like this is what I know to be true about you Long Islanders and for my eternal bond with Matt Rogers you guys are some of the smartest people on the planet. It's rooted in like a working class sort of like eh like you know eh how are you? It's like but it's intelligent. I would say it would be dangerous to tell a lot of Long Islanders right now that they are the smartest people in the world because I do think that one of the symptoms of being a Long Islander is you tell yourself that all the time. And look how look how far it's gotten you. Yeah I left long ago and but at the time I left You sure talk about it a lot. I don't even think I brought it up today. Maybe even the Rosie conversation earlier. I'm sorry. She also brought up she asked me the classic Long Island question which was what exit are you? Can I tell you something? I actually don't know that answer. You used to. But it feels like a litmus test for Long Islanders. You used to know. No because when they asked that question they mean on the Long Island Expressway and I And you weren't a driver you weren't driving down the expressway. Was not really that girl who was using it for that type of commute. So I would use Sunrise Highway. So I can tell you Sunrise Highway I think was like 44, 45, 46. Just say one of those numbers. Well that's what I explained to her at the time but then I was like why is my conversation with Rosie O'Donnell about exits? She asked you. I guess because she asked me. Which is a Long Island way of asking. Yeah. I'm asking you a question. That's what Colin's like I gotta ask you. I gotta ask you. Let me ask you. Let me ask you. Anyway. Sorry. Oh yeah. No Five Star Weekend. Five Star Weekend. We wanted to talk about it. Darcy Carden. Can I say she's the heart of the show? She's the heart of the show. Base acting. Down. Some of the best face acting I've seen. Some of the best face acting. Yeah. Oh my god. And Jay Gardner and reuniting with what's his face? Weren't they in a movie together? Jay Gardner? Jennifer Gardner. Oh. Jennifer Gardner reuniting with the one and only Timothy Olyphant. Timothy Olyphant. Still swinging dick as he walks into rooms. It's just such a what an eternal hottie. Oh. Eternal hottie. Jennifer Gardner. Eternal hottie. Regina Hall. Regina. Loving my life whenever she's on screen. I love my life. I love my life with Gemma Chan. I love my life with Darcy Carden. They're doing a second season of the five star. Which is which is the best news we heard. It's actually going to be nominated. Well then they'll be like oh they only nominated it to promote it. No. But it's like I'm sorry sometimes we really do love things on Peacock as much as we say. And can I say something? We would have no reason to. Candidly like we have we're still the same fans as we were. We're still normal people out here who love Peacock. 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Yesterday I had just a languid day. Sunday as fuck. Everyone did, I think. I know. The vibes were off. Because we were sort of talking about hanging out and everyone was like, you know. I've been watching, I need to, I've been telling myself, I need to go on like a Lisa Rinna day one journey. Really? So I remember watching her first season of Bits and Pieces. I want to watch it all the way through beginning of Beverly Hills Housewives. Beginning of Lisa Rinna era to end. And, as in, her enemies on that show, I was, I'm Rinna all the way. I'm team Rinna all the way. Okay. Because I, because I, because I, I see her on my screen and I light up. Yeah. I mean, there's no question that she is, um, would cause anyone stimulus in seeing her on the show. Towards the end, I'm interested to see what you think. Yes. Well, I was there towards the end. Yeah. With the whole Kathy Hilton thing and I'm like, whatever. There's, there's stuff about, I mean, there's that, that whole, that whole side of Beverly Hills to me is like, like bumps me out. Sometimes it's good to root for the villains though. Sometimes, sometimes. 100. The villains are the ones, there's nothing better than a good reality TV villain. And I don't want to call Rinna a villain because she's just, she was just being her authentic self. And can I just say episode one, the first couple episodes of Rinna just sums her all up. She's just like, I'm an entertainer. I guess I'm an entertainer or an actor. I don't know what to call myself. She is an entertainer. And, you know, when she and Eileen sit down for lunch, like they cut back to like old episodes of Days of Our Lives where it's just like, God, Lisa Rinna is just, and she, she's like, and I'm not ashamed of it. I'm not ashamed of anything, which explains everything about her in terms of her, like going to all these like runway events, her dressing up like full on committed to the new, like She loves it. But it's like she is, she is a true entertainer in the sense that she is interested in what is on the front line and she will commit in the way that she has committed for us at the Culture Awards. I just, I just love her and I think she would be an excellent Mary Todd. You know, I think that they would be fools because the only way they can top you. No. They've got plenty of people. Is to bring Lisa Rinna in after that. What's on the list? Um, confront ourselves. Why haven't we seen the Odyssey? Well, we've been on record as saying that like we love Nolan. We just, we just, we, it's, it's just been, I was, I do want to see it in IMAX and it's still really hard to get a ticket. I can't say where I, I was shooting your shooting, Mrs. Smith. And I, I think that's where my NDA begins. So I, I can't say where I was, but I was in a place where it was not accessible to go to a theater. I could not go to a theater in the way that I had been told I must see the film. So when all of the narrative is like, we shot this on IMAX, you must see it in this, in this way. Like this is, and then it's hard to do that. It's kind of like, okay, I'll get to it later. Tough marketing. And then I couldn't hear the dialogue at all. I just could not hear it. And, and then now I'm happy that everyone is, you know, revisiting two things in culture, interstellar and CXOXO. And I'll talk about that in a second. But people are revisiting interstellar and they're like, oh, interstellar is the best Nolan. And I'm like, I would have loved, well, a lot of people feel that way. That's interesting. Well, that's just because people are, because they haven't, they're over, they're over saying it's the dark night, even though it is. It is. It's like, I understand. It will always be the dark night. Right. It's like, okay, people that like, you know, I'm one of these people, but it's the way that people feel about like chocolate chips and oatmeal raisin. It's like, you can say oatmeal raisin is your favorite, but. Which it is yours. It is mine. I know this doesn't really work. It's, it's like Pepsi and Coke. It's like Coca-Cola is the girl. You know what I'm saying? It's like, oh, I love Wendy's. It's like, no, you like McDonald's. It's like, it's like you think you're going to get your cinephile card revoked because you didn't want to do the odyssey to see the odyssey. I think we have to, actually, this will be my, I don't think so, honey. Will it? Cinephilia. I don't think so, honey. Cinephilia is really good because the goalposts, they move. Here's what I said. The QVC woman, let's not lose sight of her. Tony. We know her name. And can we remember it? Tony. Can we remember the QVC woman's name? I think Tony is going on Fallon today. What? It's such a phenomenon. And the way she was posting on her own social media is, I'm going to be on Fallon and it's just not a picture of her face, the back of her head. Well, I mean, and thank God that her back of her head is so, I'm going to say it ridiculous. That's such a perfect example, which you've learned at this point and known for a while, which is the art of that job is just to keep talking. And here's what, so here's what's going on right now. And this haircut is just reminding me of a time when my mom cut my hair. Stop. Sell me those matches. Now these, oh my God, well now I'm on the spot. Do it. No, you go. I have found, and this is going to be something that happens with everyone out there. Whether you're lighting incense, because you've had a really stressful day, whether or not, and hey, I'm not going to tell anyone here, but you like to enjoy a little, in the words of Brittany Murphy in my favorite movie, herbal refreshment. Or if you just want to light one of the many candles that we've spoken about on this very day, you need matches. These are amazing. So, and what I love about matches, they're like little paintings. They really are. And I love that every single one has a beautiful visual identity. So you can trade them. You know, for example, like if you had one in there, and I wanted it, it has the value, and that is the sharing, the exchange, because we all need a light of fire. And I'm talking about physically as well as metaphorically, Bowen. And here's what's happening, and this is not a metaphor. We are selling five matchbooks. You're going to love this. For $25. That's a $5 per matchbook value. That's a steal. I know what you're saying. That sounds like far too much. This person does not have a grasp on people's economic reality. But these are luxury items. No, no. And you think I'm being Lucille Bluth. That's very funny. Excuse you. I know exactly why you say that, because what makes these different? These are matchbooks from the first day of Lost Colch having a new set. And that's not just something, but everything. And let's just talk about the set for a second, because I think this is the best compliment I can give a room. Yeah. I want to take a nap in here. I want to take a nap in here, and you know what ties it all together is a beautiful centerpiece. And no one thinks. No one thinks. They're going to have enough matchbooks for a whole centerpiece. That's because you're not thinking about them as collectibles. These are special. And you're collecting hearts. I'm collecting hearts because you want to know what people, and I'm going to get vulnerable here. They relate to me. And they relate to me because they know that I need a light in the dark sometimes, too. And that's why I have a whole little centerpiece full of matches right here, Bo. It's time for I Don't Think So, Honey. Anything else on the list that you want to talk about? We actually kind of got through everything. Really? Yeah. In a really exciting way, except this one thing that I wanted to sort of get into even more. Okay. Okay. This is fabulous. This is Matt Rogers' I Don't Think So, Honey. His time starts now. Oh, you're just getting into CXOXO now? Oh. Some of us have been having a great time. Some of us have been having a lot of fun, including, I'm telling you this right now, some of the hottest gays on Instagram DM respond. Whenever I put up a flare that I like Camila CXOXO because I have taste, people respond, and they are some of the most beautiful men in the world. That's so beautiful. Camila, congratulations on that. 30 seconds. And it's not the only album that people have just totally taken and just thrown away, but it is the album of the moment. And I'm willing to say it right now, CXOXO is the album of the moment. 15 seconds. 2026. And that is not to take away from what I believe to be the actual album of the year, and I'm just going to say this because I don't want to be totally frivolous. World's Girl in America by Slater. Best New Artist narrative. We need it. We love it. But CXOXO, I guess, welcome home, everyone. like I said the water is really warm it's Miami and that's one minute it cute girl with a sick mind i text bowen and jared all the time i'll just i'll just text cxoxo or x or there was a time when your vocal stim was cute girl with a sick mind what's your current stim oh uh you stimming i'm stimming on i can't even think to answer a question or just give me a fan or no i'm suffocating open the door now well there's a lot to stim on in but in confession as well so yeah i mean i i don't fuck it's not okay i don't fuck with it people think the dance floor is frivolous now what did she say she says um she says um safety in numbers numbers thanks for coming thanks you thanks for coming i love whatever register she's in right now it's amazing i love madonna love so much she's invented everything much like peaches josh harper and i say peaches invented everything madonna also invented everything obviously in a more obvious way but peaches did invent everything started it all started it all you don't get slater without peaches you don't get kesha without peaches you don't get all these things without peaches okay you don't get i don't think so honey without bowen yang this is all the this is i'm just gonna you know i'm just gonna ref let him cook one of the top phrases of 2026 give him 10 give me 10 remember this one that was a good one all right this is bowen yang's i don't think so honey his time starts now i don't think so honey cinephilia let's just say you love movies you don't have to have a whole sharpness around it it's you make it seem uninviting you make it seem like it's a closed conversation right it's like now everyone is like out here being like this is what your letterbox top four should be there should be one little silly one it's like no no no no no there's no should with film 30 seconds you should watch it is film is sculpted time you should just enjoy the sculptures that you like you should like the shapes that you like and that can be anything but there is this thing like god i'll never forget i had the honor of going to the criterion closet and i made the mistake of reading the comments and it's it's just people being like well yo everyone loves paris texas yeah i but i fucking love it too so then what am i supposed to do not acknowledge it say that i don't love it because then when i say that i do it's like you're damned if you do you damned if you don't i just like all kinds of movies the prestige the janice filmsy and the fucking disney pixar i suppose and i don't know let's just let's just everybody not too much on the not too much on the cinema philia and that's one minute plus i will say it is um it's it was at a time a thing where it's like oh you've described yourself as a cinephile that means you have an interest i might be able to but now it's like engage with now it's like you're not like oh the vet like you're it's it's it's stolen valor or something and i just said of cinephilia and i'm well i'm just like i thought i thought everyone just loved movies different kinds of movies but it's like i can be like yeah i'm kind of whatever on nolan yeah and apparently that's like a crazy take well when someone's artistic output is pretty much expected to be something specific people can make value judgment totally and i'm thrilled that it's doing well and that like the the weird fucking like attempted woke takedown of it the tape the takedown of it trying to be quote-unquote woke has failed and like there is such a thing like there's like a new kind of era of like auteur blockbuster directors yeah once again um but overall i'm like yeah i'm like i'm again i'm like neutral i'm like the way that people are like i'm neutral i'm neutral on taylor i'm like yeah great yeah or like on any other artist i'm like there's that's that's that's good neutrality with art is like fine it's not it's not a dire political need well things need to be mid so that we can see what's truly great period like i do think that we we don't have enough people out here being like this was fine like everything is either like it's polarized to be like this is an excellent thing or this is a terrible thing and most of everything right now is fine that's actually the the big reveal about our culture right now is it's all kind of fine it's all fine like there are things that are happening that are like oh that's extraordinary that's cool but we're not living in a time of like which is not we're not saying that the odyssey is fine we're just saying like there is like we're trained to be extremely polar about anything and everything toy story 5 is out now and um greta lee's in every movie love that though i mean listen if if if toy story christopher nolan and greta lee are all gonna be ubiquitous marry fuck kill i marry greta greta's in toy story that i guess i fucked toy story and i kill nolan i knew it i knew you i knew it we end every you have anything else you want to say we still gotta do a whole other one of these i know no i'm good but i'm excited i love our new set this is so good i'm i'm really i'm so thrilled and we're just gonna keep at it we will i think we're gonna swap out the couch yeah um i love the couch i don't think i don't think you know i have a very similar rug in my apartment i know this rug is is classic it's amazing guys this rug is amazing no and i'm not i'm not nitpicking here i'm just saying like you know just prepare for some some some changes some slight changes and tweaks and but this is all we're i mean you know i did almost bring one of our i heart podcast of the year trophies today and i thought to myself do we want to display it and i think maybe we will i think we will remind these girls let's display it that's what awards are meant to be that's what you're supposed to do with them okay we end every single episode of this podcast with a song i have an idea i'm gonna do the beginning of a concert that you missed oh and i want you to think about the atmosphere being so dense with excitement anticipation because you know you're gonna see your generational icon that you feel like you grew up with yeah you did maybe even you had your kid at the same time she was having her kid and you look around and you're like wow look how far we've come and you see it's madison square garden there's people talking they talk about me they know my name they know everything but they don't know anything about me give me a dance floor give me a dj give me a record forget what they say because i need to go need to get away tonight i put my makeup on a saturday night try to make it happy try to make it happy try to make it happy try to make it all right why this key she was young and you chose it i feel like i need to do it in that because i don't know hubris ariana was right when she came on the podcast i remember at the end of the podcast i started to sing positions and like she's like that key she was like that's a weird key let's just get to get to the chorus i know i made mistakes i live and laugh day to day it's never really easy but it's okay it's never really easy but it's okay thing is it's not a hard song to sing but it's gonna feel like it's a hard song to sing in a second because of what i've chosen i think we go for it five six seven eight wake up wake up on a saturday night could be new york maybe hollywood and vine london paris maybe tokyo something going on anywhere you go tonight tonight yeah tonight we can have one hillary duff album in the studio which one should it be it should be the new one i have it it's so good i mature is my favorite song of the year mature is mine is roommates love that too too bad the episode's over or we could verbally spar about that pop culture topic next time it's an eternal album next time on las culturistas which is how we end every episode bye this ad is sponsored by veve healthcare everybody who's considering injectable prep listen up not all injectable 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