Victor Davis Hanson: Why Common Sense Is Branded Conservative & The Privileged Left

Victor Davis hands in one of the smartest guys you'll listen to all week. He's on also will do the news with Andrew as well Hello and welcome to Pluto foal if you know the name of the movie you'd like to see just stream it for free on Pluto TV We're all your blockbuster favorites are landing all summer long catch anchor man the legend of Ron Burgundy fantastic The Matrix trilogy welcome to the real world mean girls side up. I'm the key in the world and so much more for show times press nothing They're free 24/7. That is so fast on Pluto TV stream now pay never From Corolla one studios in Glendale, California. This is the Adam Corolla show. Adam's guest today Political commentator historian and author Victor Davis Hanson plus the news with Henry Thompson and now Adam Corolla Victor Davis Hanson has joined me. He's a historian. He's an author. He's a clear thinker He's kind of I don't know. I would call him the white Thomas soul in a weird way. Just a guy who makes sense All the time you see him popping up on Fox all the time. I don't know Victor. Do you get invited to go to CNN or any other those types of outlets ever? Once in a while, but They haven't turned out well put it that way so I think I usually say no, but you know how the New York people like the New York times They'll call conservatives and they'll want They'll want you to object to something a conservative is done and then they'll sensationalize it so I don't talk to I don't talk to them or the Washington Post CNN I've gone on a couple of times and it's been an ambush So yeah, yeah, I'm worth it. You know, it's interesting I'm a fan of yours I really enjoy logic and practicality and common sense and I was just thinking you know people like you and and myself and others we get sort of painted into this sort of conservative mouthpiece, you know, Trump talking points or something, but I've always just thought of myself as wildly pragmatic And you know reality on reality terms. I think of you that way But also if you go back and you think about the stoicism and the stoics and the folks and the philosophers that came two thousand years ago Were they called something other than philosophers? Were they associated with a party where they called you know Far right. Well, they didn't like them. Yeah. Yeah, we they created that word selfie stays. They were softest So some of them were you know, they weren't all softest protagonist was called a softest and Gorgeous was called a softest, but at the time their supporters thought they were philosophers Socrates was called a softest by his opponents. What what is the definition of a softest? A softest is It comes some softest wise. It's kind of and you in Greek you put ISTE As an is stick. So it's Y'sistic. So he's a wise guy. He's He thinks he's wise, but he's only clever with words or he he feels that he can make an argument that can convince you then it must be true Right by the power of his vocabulary or syntax. So it's a it's a pejorative term in English now Right. So they they did do a version of what we do. Yes, they did and uh and I guess because it's humans and it's human nature and it's human beings and why wouldn't we just do what they did and why wouldn't they Why aren't we know they'll do this 2,000 years from now I'm sure, but it can be a little frustrating. I think At least it is for me sometimes when I'm like I'm just a pragmatic guy It is I I had lunch with Tom so twice a month for 15 years He's a little older now and can't do it And when he would have a book out I'd say this is he'd always send it to me and we'd meet for lunch. I discuss it And he'd say it's gonna be it's gonna be attacked by all these people And and many of them weren't even political, you know what I mean some were but most of them were just common sense economics common sense A decision-making on government common sense on things like altism everything. He what about everything and He was very stoic about it and just said He just accepted it. He got to the point where he said I don't even get mad anymore I just if I don't see their their saying this about me that I'm an uncle Tom or I'm a black cell out was very good I felt bad because I had been going through a lot of stuff. He had attacks, but not to the same degree And he was I of all the people I met at the Hoover over the last 20 years It's kind of ironic he and Shelby steel were probably the brightest And so you think the black community would or the white community Political would appreciate that, but they hated them for that And they made their life miserable Yeah, I'm right. Well, there's nothing worse to them than a black actually a black female Who you know has a different message than they do it angers them the most And always funny to me that they don't even really count them Is black anymore once they hook up, you know Or gay, you know like like they'll go look at you know the Trump administration and you go well what about this black guy or that gay guy or that Asian guy It's like that doesn't count anymore. It's like their terms are You can only be black or Hispanic or gay if you're a Democrat And and if you cease to be a Democrat then you kind of cease to be Black you're not a yeah, you're not a think you're a sellout or you're suffering from false consciousness, right, but That was one thing Obama did and I mentioned it in the book He took affirmative action in that 12% 11% black and the historic tension with whites and you know slavery Jim Crow and the efforts of the great society And he thought you know that's too small of victim class So what I'm going to do is I'm going to say that anybody who isn't white Regardless of money regardless of history regardless if they've just set foot in the nation A day ago They are a victim by their color and all of a sudden we had 30% you could be an Indian from India and Aristocrat You can be an Argentinian guy with red hair and blue eyes, but Trill is ours I had all my neighbors were Punjabis and they were always complaining that they were dark And their kids couldn't get in under affirmative action and they'd say to me All these Pujami farmers would say my my kids on I'm darker than Hispanics. I'm darker than black and they get nothing I said well, you're all very wealthy and this doesn't matter and now they're delighted They said oh, I'm diverse. I'm DEI. This is great And I think that was a very subtle change he made he just sort of Redefined race as anybody who's not white is a victim and a press on that Marxist binary And that was really the cause of a lot of our problems because When you look at the oppressed today, it's nothing to do with class. Mondami is very wealthy He was from a settler colonial family in Uganda Hassan Piker who drives a $200,000 Porsche Vogue comma now thinks he's a big socialist. He's worth I guess his in-laws are worth a quarter billion dollars They're all there. I don't know if it's true, but I don't know. Omar said she was worth 30 million So but they're all victims by their just one common link that they're not white and that's that was I think we can attribute that to Obama He was the one that started that Well, he also perpetuated it For other reasons that don't really involve his actions, but I've always had this feeling and and Obama It sort of saddens me that him. I shouldn't say Obama. I should say the Obama's it saddens me that both of them sort of turned out The way they did because it would have been so nice if they went a different direction I just think it could have helped so much instead. Oh, it would have she if you'd had a concern the first president of the United States Had been black and conservative or centrist it would have made a big difference Yeah, and she turned out to be more of a race hustler than him and and and and probably I will say look. I don't know what to say when I say you know, she hates this country, but She doesn't speak glowingly of this country. I don't know if she hates this country, but she doesn't she's not complimentary if this country Was her spouse you would assume she doesn't like her spouse But I will make this point to you and you can tell me what you think of it We always said Racism will be over when we elected black president that was sort of the con it was a conceit It wasn't an actual yardstick to measure racism. It was just like The conceit will be when we get to the point We're we're able to elect a black president that will sort of be What we perceive as the end of racism in this country and He used to be Comedians used to joke about it a lot lot like in the 80s and the 90s and talking about having a black, you know, that, that was the future. The utopian future was we've elected a black president that thus racism is over. And we elected a black president to two terms. So that, if that, if we're making a movie about a country, that would be the end of the movie where racism was over cured whatever you want to call it. But because so many people are invested in racism, including the Obama's and everyone on the left, that was just their signal to double down. They realized that they had to overcompensate and undo this thing that declared racism over. And if you notice, that's when the hoaxes and the bending over backwards and finding systemic racism and finding basically, you know, systemic buy or like implicit bias and stuff, that's when they had all these new adjectives. Right. Right. That's the beginning. You can just say racism insidious implicit. Well, they, they, they, well, that's, sorry, that's when they had to start finding invisible racism. Yes. So you would say, name me a law that's racist. Name me, give me a policy. Oh, no, no, no, that's not what it is. You have bias and you don't even know about it, which now can never be disproven because, you know, who, who knows what invisibly lurks inside of a man's heart. But I felt like Obama being elected is what made all the hustlers, the Jesse Jackson's and the Al Sharpton's and, and, and CNN's and they all went into overdrive to bring back racism. They, they did. And again, one of the key things he did was though, we had always said that oppression against blacks could be measured in economic terms. They were statistically poor or black and that once they had an equal opportunity, you'll see and all that stuff, then they would achieve parity and they were getting close to parity. And the same thing was true of women, 57% of college students are women now. And black wealth is greater. If it for people who identify as black, their wealth is greater than any majority black nation in the, in the world. And we have black billionaires, etc. But what they did, again, I think it's really important that Obama, Eric Cold or Oprah, all these people saw that because of their wealth and their privilege, now we're in the second generation of it, the Obama kids and they were no longer, they could no longer be victims unless they, they separated that. And they said, it does not matter how wealthy you are, how privileged you are is your skin color. And that's what Obama did. He said your diversity, it's diversity. And it's not based on past oppression. So, Montgomery can come over here, and he's a victim. He's part of a minority group. And all, Rokhanism, as I said, he's a millionaire. Hassan, they're all kind of, you know, fakers and operators, but at least in the past, you could say, there's a correlation between being non-white and not having as much. But when you look at ethnic majorities, who identify as ethnic majority, minorities, 17 of them are higher than whites, Arab Americans, Indian Americans, Vietnamese Americans, Japanese Americans, Chinese Americans. And it was kind of funny when a Montgomery said he wanted to go after a wider, richer neighborhood. I thought, well, he's going to go after the Indian community because they're the richest neighborhood in the world, you know, in the United States. But so that was really important and he pulled that off with no controversy. And now we have this 37 binary, and it warps everything that almost, what D.I. did was it said, you get exemption. You get exemption, not just preference to get into college or promoted or retained, but when you do bad things, it's all contingent on your gender or your race. And we don't apply it the full measure of the law to you. And that's undermined and meritocracy it undermined it. So we're in a tailspin. Then you get Donald Trump, what was weird about Donald Trump? He didn't care about this. I've seen only politician I've ever met that did not care. When he said that about Camilla Harris, he goes, they ask her about, are you, you're going into some black journalist and what do you think about the, he said, I don't know what she is. If she wants to be black, she can be black, but I don't think, maybe she's Asian. I don't know, I don't care. And everybody went crazy about that, but he never, he never apologized. He never backtracked. And I think everybody, all the never Trumpers said he's going to lose the minority vote. Maybe he will in the next election in the midterms, but 56% of black males voted for him. I mean, Hispanic males in about 24% of black male, that was a record for male minorities. And I think it was the authenticity that they felt he didn't try to pander. He didn't try to change his accent. He wasn't Hillary. I'm so tired or Obama modulating the accent. Yes. Or Joe Biden put you all, I'm going to put you all in change. You got, you know, you for all that stuff back in change. That was new. I see a little improvement a little bit, not much, but I think it's mostly fatigue that people just say racist. Oh, yeah, you know, it just rolls off your back now. It doesn't mean much. Oh, I've said for 10 years, there's never been a better time to be an actual racist because you just get lumped in with Sean Hannity and Trump and Victor, David Hans, David Hansen and Adam Corollon and everyone else. Anyone's ever been on the Jesse Waters show or Greg, you'd be lumped in with Greg Gutfeldt. You know, so you could hide and play in sight. Yeah, I think there's a bit of a saturation level. It is kind of insane that in 2026, they keep going back to the rate. What they do is they sort of, they do the racism thing for a while and then they stop and then they do some sort of homophobic thing for a while and then that gets tiresome and at some point, they might jump to something international. I ran or something like that and then trans help them, you know, Adam, I didn't even know what trans was until I mean, I as a historian, I knew there were passages in ancient literature about transvestism and transsexualism where people thought they were was very rare. And then I would, when that whole trans thing, I looked at some of the classical sexologists have a lock, they had it all documented in the 50s, 40s that turn, it was about 0, 0, 1% of the population. Yes. And all of a sudden, they were 30% of undergraduates at Brown or somewhere saying they were considering transitioning. They made it into a new civil rights movement because they were, the other ones had been exhausted and they invented it. Yeah. And I don't know what's next. They still will circle back to racism. They always find their way back to racism. It'll die down never more than five, six months, but it'll die down for a little bit and then they'll come back and find it with these links. Don't you think there's, yes. Don't you think there's so much intersectionality? So when that gale king was talking about the juror and one of the white lady jurors and the clancy trials, he said, well, there's this hold out and hold out and she said, well, who was he? And he said, well, he was a male and her eyes got big. You know, we're sisters now. And these males are cheering the misfortunes of what they're, you know, and then all of a sudden, did you know anything about us? Well, yes, he was black. She just said, I've got to take a breath with that. I've got to stop because she, her mind was going women, black solidarity, but black person opposed feminist women that I'm for, but the feminist women, I also don't like if they're white. So this black guy is a victim and she couldn't figure it out. Her head was exploding. Yeah. About where her allegiance are in that hierarchy of victimhood. Yeah. It's, it's very, I find it mostly pathetic when I hear the speech is like as a black woman growing up in America, I, I, like, I find it very narcissistic, but also find it super narcissistic, but also kind of sad. And I'll tell you what I, what I'm saying, it's like I'm Italian. But if I just dressed like a gondaleer and every time I said, you know, my great grandfather, Giuseppe, would tell me when he was, he was a gondaleer, he was an organ grinder. I should be like, give it a rest, Adam. Just get on with something else. Have, have a, have a life. It's not all about being a nationality. And I know I taught for 20 years at Cal State, Fresno, where most of my students were minority. I would see these guys that come in and they were obviously Hispanic, but they had a white father. Right. And their name was Jorge Smith or something. But they didn't. Everybody treated them as white because of the name. And then I knew other people who were one quarter or one eighth Mexican, but it was always on the male side. So they got that last name. And then all of a sudden, in the 80s, when I was started teaching there, if it was Joe Ramirez, and he was blonde hair and blue eyed because his great grandfather, was Ramirez and the father and all of a sudden he started, literally in my class he would put accent marks, then he was Jorge and it was all, it was this search, it was a search for an edge, it was kind of a con, I need some edge and this minority thing is going to. And it was really funny, it wasn't, at least I was teaching the Odyssey one year and I had a Hispanic, Mexican American girl, every time she opened her mouth she said, "As a Latina." Right, right. I can't relate to this Professor Hanson. As a Latina this doesn't mean, I said if you keep, please don't do that. This literature's universal appears to, it appeals to the human spirit. I don't think so, as a Latina. So I said I'm going to identify every time. So she'd say, I'd say, Hortensia, would you please translate or can you tell me your views on this particular passage on the underworld scene? As a Latina, I said, "Well, as a white male I can't relate to you." All right. And I did that the whole class. Every time I said, and then she called the dean who was, his name was Dean Costa, but he was from Spain, and he hated affirmative action. So he just said, "What the, Blank, are you doing Victor? You know this? You're giving me a headache. This is a joke. We all know it's a joke. Why are you teasing these students? I have to do something to you. I tell you what, for the rest of the week, just stay on your farm and relax. Skip three classes and I'll tell everybody I put you on hold and take a vacation. But it was all, it's all cynical and at Stanford, we have theme houses instead of racially segregated dorms. If we have racially segregated graduations, they're adjacent graduations adjacent, and everybody knows what it is. A white guy walks into the black dorm, then he's not going to be welcome. He's not going to feel welcome. And so they have euphemistic titles for things that are basically just segregation. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's what the left does. If you were to sum up the left, it's basically how to lie about what they're for or how to distort what they're really doing. It's a big line incorporated. The whole movement is, well, I see it. So here's where I come at all this stuff. The human wiring is, we're wired for a shortcut in a life hack, no matter what. We're just wired for it. And we're literally saying, you know, if the well is three miles that direction and someone goes, I got a shortcut to the well, it's only two miles, then everyone goes, where's the shortcut? Yeah. It's just how we're wired. So everything you do in life is a sort of a hack. It's like, well, my son moved out and now I have an open room. Well, if you call that room your office, then you can write it off as a business expense. And everyone does it because why wouldn't you? And so when we start offering a lot of these things, such as, you know, if you say your daughter's on the spectrum, you can get an extra $1400 a month from the government because your daughter's on the spectrum. And then you go, what is the spectrum? It's like, it's murky. It's not really, it's hard to, it's kind of hard to define. It's like a service dog at the airport. What is it? What I just want to travel with my dog, well, then we'll call it a service dog. And then you can travel with your, everything we're wired for is sort of hacks and shortcuts. And it's not even a bad thing. It's just sort of how we're wired. So if you're going to offer things up, such as, you can get into this college with a lower GPA and a lower test score, a lower SAT, if we find out that you have some Hispanic blood or American Indian blood or African American, but if we can find that out, well, then everyone's going to do it if we offer it. If we offer it a huge scale, I think it was at Stanford. How many students were saying that they had a disability so that they could get an extra day to take a test, it's a lot, okay, is it their fault? And my answer is it's not their fault. It's what people do, it's human nature. And what the Democrats are asking is that we go against human nature. And it never works. And it's all contingent that the people who express that instinctual edge or advantage or self-interest, the full expression of it has to be the minority group of the society because the society won't function of every single person does it all the time. So when you say, like, before affirmative action, it was the old white boy neck. If you wanted to get in a Stanford or Harvard, you call your dad who called the dean. And that worked if a lot of people didn't do that, or you at least had pretty good grades. But when everybody starts to do it and it's Stanford the last four years, I'm only mention that because that's where I work and I know a little bit about it, 8% were white males. So no SAT and 30 to 40% were black, Hispanic, gay, et cetera. The result was that the faculty was very left-wing, so they said, would say to you, I have three choices. If I grade honestly, and I had the same work requirement, I will come up statistically as giving lower grades to minorities. So I either have to give A's, 80% got A's. That's the average at Stanford Yale, 80%. Or I have to water it down the class, or I've got to have new medials, so we have remedial math. And so they all think that solves the problem. And then you talk to the Silicon Valley guys that are cut throat and they want to make money and they say, I don't want to hire these guys anymore. They go right to HR. They don't know anything. I'd rather hire a guy from Texas Tech or Georgia Tech, Texas A&M, different culture. They know stuff. They don't have a code. They know how to speak English. They know how to write. And it destroyed, it's destroying that brand. And now there's, of course, we have to bring back the SAT. We have to quietly let in a few more white males on a merit-cratic basis. We've got to watch these remedial classes. We've got to go talk to Silicon Valley that we're still the same, it's like a cattle brand. Our cattle brand still means something. If you have a scam for BA, it doesn't mean anything anymore because the employers who are tough people, you know, when you talk, you can't fool a guy like, you know, David Sacks or Mark Andrews and those guys, they know, they don't care. They just want somebody who's educated. And they've turned off on these schools. And I think that's when it stops, when you reach a peak period where the whole system is failing. We have too many air traffic controllers or we have too many 45,000 people who are given a license to drive with no physical exam, no couldn't read English, they're illegal. And now they're driving 80,000 pounds on our freeways. They're talking about silly trucks. Yes. And they're killing people and they're scaring people and everybody's saying the highways don't work anymore. Then it starts to, and then the question is, will it implode or will, at the 11th hour of people say, this is nuts? And I think that was kind of what the Trump first election and the second term it was about, that the first time we looked at the symptoms of the progressive project and it didn't, I mean, he did a lot of good things the first term, but he had, you know, Rex Tillerts and John Bolton, Jim Matt as Stephen Newton, they weren't on the team. And he didn't know much. And then the second time it was like, I'm going to get a hardcore magick, and I'm going to go out for the causes. The causes are the universities, tax or endowment, root out anti-semitism, cut their grants from 40% overhead to 15, media, defund PBS, depound, NPR, be free to sue these people. It's a border, not just build the wall, but deport people, no more refugee status once you're here, all about. So they're trying to at least this time address symptoms in a 360 degree. We're going after the culture, classical architecture is good. We're not going to tear down statues. If they're going to rename stuff, we're going to rename stuff, but in a very different way. And it's kind of a haphazard shotgun approach, but they're trying to undo 50 years from March and they're doing it very radically, and that's why he's so much more hated now because he's more effective. Yeah. I honestly as a native Californian, when I know you are, we grew up in very different environments in California, but it's still California, I grew up in the San Fernando Valley. All I'm trying to do was undo what has been done in the last 40 or 50 years at this notion of, like, I have an agenda. I don't even, you know, I would argue that Trump's agenda, it's just undoing a ton of horrible policy. It's not even really an agenda. It's, it's basically like saying, you know, if, it's one thing to remodel a house and go, you know what, we're going to add a master bedroom on and another 1,500 square feet. That's one thing. This is not that. This is your roof has a hole in it. There's termites all over the place. The plumbing is leaking. I just want to put the house back to how it was. I'm not even asking for a chandelier. I'm just saying, what a fix the house. Los Angeles is a decrepit house that is falling apart. And I'm just saying, I just want to get it back to how it looked when I was a kid and I grew up in this house. Yeah. And that's what I, they asked me for a title, the publisher, and I said, well, we had a revolution. And I just want to stop it. So they said, stop the revolution. I said, how about just the counter of the revolution, not counter remake. I don't want to be like Obama fundamentally transform the come. I just want to undo the things they did. Your metaphor of a house is really good because they destroyed the roof. They destroyed the foundation. They destroyed the wiring. They destroyed the plumbing. They destroyed everything. I think they have and that requires a full, you have to get a committed bunch of zealots, counter revolutionaries. And they have to be committed. They can't be like the first term people. They've got to be expected to be hated. And they have to be 24/7, 360. They have to look at the whole, the holistic society. And they have to have one simple grand directive. And that is undo what these people did when they took control of the foundations, the universities, K through 12, the corporate boardroom, entertainment, sport, just undo it and try to do as fast as you can because you might not ever have a chance again. And that's what I, and what they reacted to, boy, when you look at two impeachments, trying them as a citizen, steel dossier, hunter laptop, fiasco, 20, but debaliting them in 25 states, rating Marlago, five criminal and civil suits, four, only time in history that the secret service of shot at a potential assassin on four different occasions, a Trump assassin. Once it Marlago, even though he wasn't there, they shot him once, you know, the golf course, once at the White House, correspondence, dinner, and once in Pennsylvania. And so, and that's, you know, he's trying to do all of that stuff and not those tweets and the crudity and the capital letters, it's just, it's just war with him. It's just frustration and anger at the entire what we've become. And it's also in empowering the people who didn't destroy that house. So he looked at this, forgotten, deplorable, they had a special vocabulary, deplorables, irredeemables, clingers, Biden added to that and said, "Call them drags, garbage, chumps." And he tried to say, "These are the people who get up every morning, kind of like Reagan's silent majority or Nixon's was." And they make all the other stuff possible. If you don't, if you go to work late or you, you're always out protesting or you're cheating on welfare or you, you can tolerate that because the the majority is not doing that. And so they were struggling and they keep the country going. And all of a sudden Trump said, "I'm going to empower these guys and reward these guys and not the guys that are tearing down the house." And that was, you know, I thought when he, when he started saying things he was going to do, I am, my success will be my revenge. I thought, "Oh my God, there's going to call him deportations. My gosh, can you imagine that what that's going to incur?" And it did. I mean, it's almost like a full-scale Jacobin revolution, the reign of terror versus the reaction against it. It's very similar. So, you know, I always say with COVID, you can blame the Wuhan lab and you can blame Chinese government. You can blame CNN. You can blame Gavin Newsom or whoever progressive mayor is shutting down the city. But ultimately, it's not really doable without an army of people. You know, the people, when, when Gavin Newsom shut the beaches, we all should have went to the beach that day. 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And he was saying, if you get these magic vaccinations, you will not be infectious and you will not be infected. I can guarantee you that. And then it was, well, if you do this, it will help you. Just like you said, the mask, mask don't work. One mask will work. Two masks will work. It's better. Get two masks. And that kept changing. And then, you know, Biden kicked out the Pentagon, Lloyd Austin, 8500 career soldiers because they didn't get vaccinated. When 10,000 people were coming in a day across the southern border and they didn't even want it. They would no more say, do you have a vaccination? Because we've just kicked out 8500 soldiers, but it was a tyrannical might, iconic point was they had a guy and you knew him and he's a colleague of mine. Scott Atlas. Yeah, and he said If you he said about three things right away when Trump hired him at the 11th hour He said people under 18 are not going to get severely ill unless they have a medical condition If you really want to try the mRNA vaccinations, I would recommend you do it for elderly people But there's no scientific evidence that younger people need it and most adults can get through it and any Damage that the virus will do will not be as much as the economic chaos and depriving two years of education for more nation's youth and more importantly he said If you if you put people cooped up in an apartment or a house with no social contact You're going to see an epidemic of alcohol, spousal, drug abuse And I think that whole George Floyd was connected, you know, everybody was cooped up and they went nuts for four months Yes, and you know what they did the next thing I knew if you walked with Scott across the Stanford Campus people walked the other way the faculty Senate censored him. They tried to fire him and Trump let him go basically because Fauci and Berks and all this people that was the hierarchy N.I.H National Institute of Allergy infectious diseases and everybody Thought I'm just a Yahoo. I don't want to get any more booze at Stanford if you were not going to be able to work there You couldn't even go to your office unless you got the two vaccinations and if you didn't get the booster You were in trouble. I never got the booster and I remember taking my Phone and putting it literally in foil when I walked on campus because they had a tracing of your ping All right, yes, they could send you an email and all around the campuses. There were little kiosk You're not supposed to be here. You have 24 hours to take this test And they handed them they were just free and then you dropped it in anytime you walked on campus Everybody was terrified. Well of the government. I guess you know You're answering a lot about COVID, but the question is for me was more I knew all this was going on Why were there so many useful idiots? Why were there so many willing participants and you know You can extrapolate that to all the ice stuff and sort of everything else. Where are all these people? Coming from I sniffed this thing out early and I was not I realized mask were useless I went to tinhorn flats because I knew it posed no danger to me in my 14 year old healthy son It's not like I was going to turn my son into a martyr. I knew this was all nonsense and and I kept looking around In yelling at everybody wake up like don't you know what's going on? That's the part that worries me Well, it is there is it is because it had elements of one day There's a legitimate complain about Harvey Weinstein and the next a year later Every single male you know in a prevent position of success Starts saying to you you know 11 years ago. I was at a party and I kissed that girl and it was we were both drunk. Do you think she's gonna meet to me? All right, it was like it was like an epidemic of madness until it crested George Floyd was madness all of a sudden the University of Chicago said we are not taking any white candidates for the English PhD You have to be black. It's going to be all black English studies. It was just insane at Hoover. We were Supposedly a conservative institution suddenly it was Staff who have been forgotten about their oppression. So the black person the all the black people and many of them were upper upper Middle class and we all had to go on zoom and Listen to these stories. I'm with you. I've been one of you. I've worked you You don't know how I've suffered silently from all of the the looks I get and it was all these and it was just constant and then all of a sudden That fad banished and that's what happens. It's It's I think it's characteristic of Democracies. There's a great passage in the historian Herod as he says the Ionians wanted the Greeks to help them They're on the coast of Turkey and they were being Revolting against the Persian Empire. So they go to the Spartans where all of Garx and they think this is gonna be easy I only have to you know about a thousand of these Spartans and They make the argument in the Spartans say how far away are you 300 miles and you You have to go take our ships to get over there and this your enemies are hundreds of them now We're not gonna do anything. So then they think well We'll go that was you know that was expected there all like we'll go over to the Athenians So they get in the the Ecclesia where there's thousands of them And they make these thing were Ionians like you are we're democracy. We're fighting the bad guys Can you just drop everything and join this war and right they all say yes and Herodotus says so it is with crowds that it's much easier to convince 30,000 people who are in Basically the Greek word is into law mindset or Mysteria than it is a few sober and judicious people and I think that's one of the dangers we have to watch and Our popular culture not so much the legal you know Congress or White House or Supreme Court, but The popular culture. Yes, it's very dangerous and it likes victims and it heats up and it gets hysterical but There's not a lot of self-reflection in it And I want to tell everyone you guys got duped by covid for five years. You were lied to You became useful idiots and you were duped you got duped by Hunter Biden's laptop You got duped by Russian collusion. There's so many stories big and small Justy small that whatever it is duke lacrosse All of it do you ever stop and reflect and say man my batting average is not so good Maybe I shouldn't rush to the next thing okay the next thing is AI is gonna get us all killed by you know 2030 and you guys are all rushing to get on board that train as well Is there a point where you hesitate and question? Yourself based on past performance. I hope so After George Floyd, they said that cops were murdering black men in the street and then poor roll and fire at the Harvard A con black Harvard economist said actually The Washington Post was right. There was only 11 black men killed who were unarmed last year and there were this more white men that were killed on armed even though There are majority of the population, but black men came into contact with police more than white men did and he His next thing he knew Claudine Claudine Gay at Harvard had him isolated and he was persona non grata and they tried to ruin his career for five years just for saying the truth so That's I think the fear that makes all these mob moot mass mob movements dangerous now. It's anti-Semitism. I didn't I always thought well It's so weird to read about what was happening in Germany in the 30s I can't believe anybody to actually do that all of a sudden your neighbors turning you in your Cardiologists that saved your life twice as all of a sudden enemy of the people and then all of a sudden All these people you knew even on the conservative side we're saying these crazy things, you know that that made no sense You know that Charlie Kirk was killed by the Mossad or There's a bunch of Jews that are in this little room doing this and All the Jews drove everybody all the Christians out of Bethlehem when it's impossible and then all of a sudden I had written a big book on World War II I turned on the TV and there's a sterile Cooper And he said to be the pre-mirror historian of World War II and he's never written a book And he says that church was the terrorist and the whole war was cooked up and our real friends were the Nazis basically Right, and where did all that come from? I don't understand that maybe it was anger at Israel I don't know, but all of a sudden I saw the other day that 55% of all hate crime victims in New York or Jews now Yeah, and we're talking about Islamophobia all the time. Yes, I I mean I don't study like you. I just have sort of instincts and I kind of Kind of interestingly enough. I don't come upon my ideas from reading other people's ideas or even reading historical texts or anything I just sort of sit With things and eventually it starts to come in and and my I've always felt this way about the Jews anybody Who is flourishing or doing well in this country as a target on their back. I mean you just it you just do. And the Jews are not ascent. I mean, they're white adjacent or something, but they're not Nigerian and they're not from Ecuador. And they're successful. And not only are they successful, they're the only successful country in this horrible astray filled with terrorists and poverty and famine and everything like that. So, you know, it's one thing to be in a group of many successful people. But when you're kind of the lone star success in a group of failures, then that envy really kicks in. And now it's a micro and a macro thing. I mean, we all know we've all been around the people where the guy's real successful and he drives a nice car and he comes in. As soon as he leaves the party, everyone's like, I think he's such hot stuff because just because he made a little money and then we start making excuse. You know, that was his dad's company. He didn't even start that. You know, we start to downgrade his success. Sometimes we'll just go, you know, his marriage is miserable. All the money in the world is not going to buy a happiness and a marriage. He's miserable. You know, so we're wired for that. We're wired for that and we used to keep it in check. And we did. Americans were known. They always said, when a Brit sees a role, he wants to kick it. And when an American sees a catalog, he wants to know how to buy one like it. Right. We had a good envy. It was in the election. And they had a bad envy of it's kind of like the Kool-Ox. They see a Kool-Ox who's successful. They burn his barn down. But in America, it used to be that you were you wanted. Tokville saw that when he came to America in 1832 and he wrote Demont. He said, "These people have a chance to make it because they're all entrepreneurial small farmers and they're self-sufficient and they're proud." However, he says, and this is getting to your point about human nature, human nature being what it is and what we see with the peasant class in Europe, most people naturally would all whether be equal and poor, then all better off that some among them really better off. Right. That's destructive idea of envy. And that's tied in, I think that's tied in, as you point out, with the anti-symmetism and with the DI too, with all of that. Yes. And I think that's the thing about DI though, what's so that shields you from, and if you're Barack Obama and you have Martha's Vineyard estate and you have your Chicago digs and you have your calorama mansion and you have your Hollywood front, but you're half black, even though you went to preps school and you're well off, you're still protected from that. He's not considered. You know, he flies in every once in a while and gives a pep talk to black men that they're, they're making a mistake by not campaigning for Kamala Harris or something, but he gets away with it because he can still say he's a victim. Yeah. And that's, that's what DI did. And I don't know if the Trump counter revolution will undo that or not, but that's a, I guess Trump's, and I don't think he's ever said this, but I sense, maybe you do, that he's, he doesn't really talk in the abstract about anything, but especially DI and the abstract all the way. We're kind of talking about both the abstract and concrete, but he does, he does despise it and he ridicules it all the time that he can get away with it. And he's constantly called racist and then, you know, I was watching, I had never watched the view in my life and I watched it the other day. They can't finish the sentence without talking about race and Trump. And then I looked at them, they're all multi-millionaires. They're all multi-millionaires and they're all victims. And he, they despise him because he, to him, it's just a joke. He does, he's not even aware of what he's, he's just a complete joke. And I think that's, well, he's, that's, that's, that's salutory. He's really doing a public service. He, he is a cartoon character to that. And I mean it literally. And they don't know, they don't have nuance. And so us, we can take people, we disagree with, you know, you go Anderson Cooper or something, I disagree with Anderson Cooper, let's say, or anyone on the left. And I go, but, you know, I'm sure he'd make a fine neighbor if he was across from you in the department building. I'm sure he'd be nice, probably make you a cocktail. And I'm sure he's great with his nieces in his nephews or something. I don't turn him into a caricature or a cartoon. I just go, I disagree with what this person has to say, but I'm sure he's a good father or what have you. Okay. Or he wants what's best for his community. These guys, and that, this is why they can call everyone racist and xenophobic and, and, and, and they can say homophobic, you know, because when they talk about him, they say things like what's Donald Trump? What? He wants people to suffer. He wants something to suffer because he doesn't feel good unless someone's under his boot. Okay. Because that's the only time he feels like a big man. Look, you were talking about a cartoon at that point. And if you call Victor Davis Hanson or Adam Corolla, a racist or misogynist or homophobic, you're just look, you're creating a cartoon version of, of people that have a diversity in thought and background and training and skill and things like that. And you're reducing them to like a one-dimensional cartoon. And that's what they do with everyone. It's, it's, it's wildly convenient for them because if you had to start thinking of that cartoon villain as a human with a family with goals who had struggles who may have worked hard, then you could never say any of these things about them. Well, I do think the vocabulary though, the erosion is accelerating. So it took a long time for racism to mean, racist to mean very little, if anything. But now when you, if somebody, I've heard the other day, transphobic, nobody, that's a joke. And people say, he's a transfer, or he's a homophobic, or he's a chauvinist. They don't even say chauvin or sexist. I don't think sexist even exists anymore. People with women, the majority and the workplace in many places and in universities, I can't think of a university. It doesn't have a woman president. Yes. And the faculty, so I think it's one good thing is that somebody is making that a joke. And I think I don't know it's the internet mob on the conservative side or it's just individual people in general that are not really counted or silent majority, but it does seem that the popular culture says, I don't care if you call me right. It used to be the same thing as a sexual deviant if somebody called you a racist. You have to mock. Mockery is all all you really have with these people. It's the only thing that sort of works is you must mock. You can't apologize and try to explain all they do is encroach more. You take two steps back. They take three steps forward. The old playbook of offer up an apology and see if you can keep your job. That's a bygone era. The only thing you can do is mock them back. That's all we have. I have a something that you wrote that I think you and I think alike, think alike on many subjects and there's something you wrote that I'd like to read back to you that it's something I've been really ruminating on and thinking about a lot lately. I know it'll sound familiar because they're your own words. I think a good description of 2026, culturally, economically, socially and politically, is that we're in a modern medieval world. One part of our society is advancing at lightning speed into the future and progressing, but the other part is regressing and regressing in a phenomenal pace back to what I would call medieval period. America has never been richer, more technologically advanced, or more capable of solving basic problems, yet it's cities are increasingly plagued by crime, disease, homelessness, public disorder, and members of its progressive class continue to excuse blatant killers, argues Victor Davis Hanson on today's edition of Victor Davis Hanson in a few words. Yes, I've been saying we are thinking about colonizing Mars and there's simultaneously human trafficking in the bubonic plague is coming back via rats in downtown LA. So don't you don't you think arses? I think our elite thinks it's easier to colonize Mars than to clean up the homeless in that way. Yes, I agree because if you start that you're up against 50 years of social science, quackery, psychology, pseudo medical experts, races, all of that whole progressive project starts to close in on you. And so maybe it's an escape that a lot of our elite, you know, I was reading the other day that in terms of AI, digital media, software, bioengineering, genetic engineering, satellite launches and space launches, rockets, with a space that are the 10 top companies globally in each of those areas, although with different calibration, sometimes downloads or sometimes market capels, eight to nine out of, I looked at every one of them, eight or nine of them are American. Wow. And we're not even talking about, and that wasn't true 20 years ago. And then I looked at the GDP 31 trillion. And we have one quarter, the population of China that only has 21. And I thought, does that mean that one American produces 30% more goods in four Chinese or the EU? I went back and looked at 2001 at all. So the EU will take us, will overtake us by 2020. They have a bigger population. They have more talent. They have a better education system. That was in the New York times. And now here we are a quarter more than a quarter century after the millennium. They have 450 million people. We have 340 and we have 10 trillion more GDP. And they don't rank in one of those categories. The only other person country is China. And they have one or two. So whatever we're doing, the elite are racing ahead, and maybe the upper professional classes. And I think that I almost have a crazy theory that they're not, they're not going to use their talents to address these other issues of there's typhus in L.A. There's rat disease and burply. You don't dare go into downtown Fresno after dark. They don't want to, they just can't deal with that. And there are these other outlets are all rewarding financially, psychologically, culturally, and they're really helping us. If we didn't have those people, I don't know what we would do because they create a normal amounts of wealth that can be distributed unfortunately. But it's pulling apart when I walk certain places in Fresno or out here in the rural area where I think a quarter mile from where I'm living after the Biden open borders, we had M13. And my brother called me and he said gang members. Yes. And he said, Hey, by the way, I'm in a crossfire. Then our tenials are on one side, you know, that old farmhouse. Well, they took it over and the other farmhouse and the other side of me. So stay inside because they're shooting and I'm in the crossfire. And when I walk at night on our farm, which we've been in our family a hundred and fifty years, it was so beautiful. I look at all of the the hedges my grandfather. It was kind of like the shire or hills with vineyards. And and now I see the pond and it's polluted. And almost every night I see someone dumping rewet garbage or wreck car or fornicating, injecting something. And it's it's just a total escape from LA, escape from New York experience. And all these so-called white people of laugh that I went to high school where they just vanished. Yes. Well, and it's it's it's it's illegal immigration mostly, but there was no effort to integrate or assimilate or cultivate the people who came. Yes. And it's just wild west. It reminds me. My grandfather told me when he was a young boy in the house that he would see people shoot each other over water. And he'd say, now boys, good thing about your life, you're never going to see that again. But can you imagine that old Mr. Johnson got to the ditch and somebody lifted the valve and took it and he he filled that man with buckshot. And then they took him and they tried him and they hung him in Fresno. And you'll never see that again. I'm thinking, actually, the ghost of my grandfather, I talk, I said, grandpa, I see that all the time, things like that. It's a regression. Yeah. It's so here's what it is. You know, when you're talking about these people that are having a astounding success with their abilities, why would they ever want to get involved with something like the social problems we're having? It's basically like saying, who wants to be a cop and Minneapolis? Who wants to sign up? You'd have to be a fool, right? You'd have to be fool because you're going to be pilloried. You're going to be attacked. You're not going to be supported by the governor of the mayor. And you just would go, I'm not going to do that. And none of these guys would walk away from all of the spoils of their success to throw their hat in the ring to work on the homeless problem in Los Angeles, only to be pilloried by the Los Angeles Times and attacked by every progressive. And they're enjoying themselves. And now they're going to be attacked by everyone on CNN. So yeah, that's exact. You remember when Mark Zuckerberg said he felt bad that our edge of inner city, so he gave a hundred million dollars of the Boston school district. Right. And it just evaporated. And then I remember after George Floyd, Jeff Bezos said, I feel I'm going to have the Bezos award, a hundred million dollars to I someone that's really, and he gave it all to ban Jones, a hundred million bucks. And then that was the end of the Bezos award. Right. So okay. So there's nothing in it for the people that could solve the problem. And the people who can't solve the problem are the people who are in charge. And we're not going to solve the problem. So you got to catch 22. My last question for you is I've been saying for years now, and you were underscoring this with the white friends you grew up with who are now of all fled. When Dr. Drew says, where are we heading as a nation? I said a safe space is in octagons. And what I mean is is the safe spaces will be the blue states where everything is free. And there's needle exchanges and there's drugs in vending machines. And the octagons are going to be the free states where people can own guns and aren't taxed heavily regulated. And they can drive internal combustion trucks and so on and so forth. And it's going to start attracting all those people as it already is. All the people fleeing from California going to Texas. And at some point California and these blue states and certainly the blue cities are just going to collapse under their own weight. These other cities will flourish. They're going to have to go to the cities that are flourishing and say, you got to help us because we cannot. I hope that I hope that will be the answer. But anytime you have an ideological difference for us multiplied by geography, it doesn't quite work peacefully. So in the Civil War, they, you know, slavery became very quickly a geographical issue. So if you were in the 11 confederate states, you had a different culture. It was just a, and it was that way kind of in the end, the post Civil War South. And that was the tension. And it doesn't work well. So I see, I agree with you because we're getting four or five million people fleeing blue states. It's a failure. Cal, I have no hope for California. I really don't. But I don't think it's, I think it could be really violent because the people on the left are, when they see that they don't have the money. And Trump says things like you're violating federal law with sanctuary cities, you're a Neal Confederate nullification ist. So I'm not going to give you money. And or I, I, I think I basically said, I'm going to go down to the red states and start deporting people. I'm not going to waste my time anymore in Chicago and Minneapolis or at least I won't be on the radar though. In other words, if you let those places stew in their juice, they're going to implode and they're either going to want to go to the red states or they're going to want the federal government or they're going to get angry. And as we see with the ice demonstrators. And so it's going to be very hard to, if you're a conservative, live in those blue states. Oh, it really is. Oh, I agreed. Because they're going to go after you. And anyway, well, thank you for having me, Adam. And I, my kids grew up on your show with Dr. Drew. Oh, thank you. There were teenagers. Yeah, let me give you a plug. The counter revolution, the fall and rise of Donald Trump and the mega movement out now. It's so interesting that you had lunch twice a month with Thomas Sol. And it, I was literally just in the bathroom and it popped into my head. I just went Victor Davis Hansen's the white Thomas Sol. And I never knew you knew him or came across him or any of that. So we had Christmas dinner every, for every, every year for, I think, 12 years together. Wow. Wow. I'd like to be a, yeah. He's a great man. He's a really very good I never on wavering in his views and oblivious to criticism of unjust criticism. Yeah, well, you know, listen, I'd rather be correct than adored. Yes. Tell your kids I said hi. I will. And we'll take a break. We'll be back with the news right after this. Simply safe. Well, for most of us, home security was never really about the house. It's about the people inside it, a break in leaves a mark, even if nothing is ever taken. Because it marks the moment, home stops feeling safe. I have people I love more than anything that's in that house. 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It lets them know that we sent you and really helps to support the show simply safe ahead of crime in real time. It's time to check Adam's voicemail. Adam, hey, this is Todd from Virginia. I heard you were a master commander fan and I was watching it the other day. You can leave us a message at 888-634-1744. Wow. Yeah, inspiring. And the other guy played the cello at such a good movie. You can watch that movie any time. Tap once. Three times. It's always great. Always a great film. I'm watching it recently. I remember when my daughter was like nine, she had this super winner little Asian friend. She's a winner. And like my daughter was like, I want an iPhone 15 and I want this and I want that. And I said to her, I said, Tammy, do you want an iPhone? She goes, Mr. Corolla, I'm too immature to have a phone right now. And I was like, oh my God, I was like, what's your favorite movie? She's like, Master and Commander. I'm like, oh my God. And I was like, I don't, I hear like your winner. That's it. You need no more work. You've done everything you need to do. Damn. What is she up to right now? Do you have any idea? She's in prison. Nice. Yeah. Stabbed a hobo just. She said a hobo and flak. Yeah. She's running the block. She runs the yard. Oh, yeah, yeah. Master and Commander of Cell Block C. I think her name is Cammy. She's a winner. I don't know. She went off to good college somewhere. Then there's us. Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of winners. Hmm. Get some news stories here for you involving some winners. David Ellison. Hmm. Just push the deal through or at least push the lawsuit out of the way to push the deal through. He's eyeing your best friend, Elon Musk for the paramount equity investment to basically because when they buy Warner Brothers, they're going to buy all of Warner Brothers debt. So I need to show up their finances. So now you have everybody at CNN's worried about losing their job and now they're worried about basically having Elon Musk on the call sheet ahead of them. You know, Elon Musk is, I made this metaphor before but he's a veterinarian and all you fucking idiots at CNN or a dog and just go to him and let him fix you. I know you're scratching and pulling and you think he's going to hurt you and you think he's a mean man. He's putting drops in your eyes. It's for the good. You want Elon. He'll fucking save your company and save your job. You fucking idiots. I have no idea. I know you hate Elon because he likes Trump but if you have a ailing company, go ahead and let Elon fix it for you. Well, that's the thing though. He doesn't necessarily like, he's gotten into spats with him recently or like a year ago. Like he's not like. Then he'll count any of that. I know. And Elon and Trump, you have to actively be part of the resistance otherwise you're part of the problem and that's just the way they, that's the way they work. But I don't know, do we need CNN? I know it sounds easy for me to say, but they're mostly full of shit and they do news. So do we need a totally inaccurate news entity? That's what I say. Like, they're batting averages really bad when you look at the last 10 years. It's bad because they're partisan and they get sucked in. So, you know, they're the first to do all the fucking, you know, the border guys are mounted on horses or beating Haitians or whipping them shades of the south and Jim Crow and everything else. And they're just fucking wrong about everything. Well, we watched that Biden clip a few days ago where they cut back to these news anchors and they just like literally just facts like darts like no bullshit, no floral arrangements around it, just he did not finish in the top half of his class. That was a lie. That's how news used to be done. Yes. Yes, they don't do that at CNN. So I don't know, do we need them running interference for Kamala Harris if she runs next year or in two years like, I don't know, I don't know that we need them. I mean, it's easy. You go, well, what do we need Fox for? Well, here's the thing Fox does commentary, you know, like, I mean, I'll kind of hear Ben Shapiro say it sometimes. He'll go, uh, daily wire does commentary, but we tell you who we are. And that's, that's where we live politically and, and then we're consistent that way. But that's, that's who we are. Because Emma Fox leads with like, this is just, now Fox, I mean, Sean Hannity would say, I do commentary. I don't do news. I do. I make commentary on this stuff, but I'm not reporting the news. It gets a little blurry, but, you know, that's kind of how Jesse Waters is. Yeah. Great gut felt. Well, they're, they're lying up, does sort of commentary. They do have some news that just goes, this is the news. But it's mostly the people you know from Fox are commentators and, uh, CNN passes itself off as news, except for they're doing commentary. I think you have an interesting vantage point as someone who texts with both Chris Cuomo and Sean Hannity and you can kind of, as someone who has been in contact with both of those people, you can kind of say, they're kind of the same thing, just, they're the same guy. The same guy, just different ends of this fear. Yes. Most people who have this sort of relationship are very much alike, but they don't, they don't know it. There's a lot of, uh, Jimmy Kimmel and Donald Trump have a lot of similar qualities. Yeah. Two. They're number one qualities. They both have time to invest in stuff they shouldn't be investing in personally, for you. Good and bad. But they got time. Jimmy carves out time for everything. Then Donald Trump reads your Washington Post article. I guess it was the week after the war and Iran started. Yes. Yeah. That's what those guys do. And the reason why they're successful, yeah, they have time, they seem to find time for everything. All right. What do you got in the news? We also have, uh, you know, another one of your best friends Gavin Newsom, you know, you talk about your house in North Hollywood and how it went up for sale for, and then it was just bought and demolished. Gavin Newsom's childhood home has been put on the market. Guess what it's listed at? I had some recollection of this story from several months ago for like, I don't know, I, the recollection I had was like 2.5, but maybe it's like two, seven somewhere around between two, five and three for Gavin's house, or that's what I remembered. I maybe it's a separate home. I remember seeing an article about his home selling, that's all, anyway, you tell me this is his childhood home. It's now. invested at $4.5 million. What is this story I'm thinking of than Dawson where he showed his house. It looked like this one. Well, it doesn't mean they're gonna get it, but it is kind of nuts. - That was, I think that's his mansion, the mansion that he's just leaving. - No, his mansion is leaving is seven, five. - Yeah. - And then this, whatever. So this is the house where he grew up, where he had to eat cheese and girls' hearts gravel. And he tells black guy, he sits with black guys and tells them he likes mac and cheese. So they like him. 'Cause that's how black people work. You gotta tell them stuff that they eat. That you eat too. - We're all the same. - Hey Dawson, you like fish tacos, right, bro? - Yeah, bro. - I got some in my backpack, bro. - Sweet. - You liked me more now? - Yeah. - Yeah. - That's how white guys, that's how I do it with Dawson. - What do you like, Andrew? - Well, I don't know, but I like a hoagie. - I definitely have hot sauce in my. - You got hot sauce in your bag. You're from Philadelphia, like a Philly cheese steak. - Philly cheese steak. - I got one of those in my backpack, bro. - Oh man. - You liked me more? - We're basically the same guy. - Yeah, right. - Holy shit. - Shit man. - I was poor black people. - That's right. I grew up eating mac and cheese. Oh yeah. And my mama used to whip me. Woo! Man, she whipped me when she wasn't hanging out with the getty family. She would whip me. - Yeah, man. - And we weren't eating mac and cheese. And my dad wasn't lead counsel for getty oil. In between those things, we would eat that cheese. - That's right. Outside, get yourself a twitch. - A switch. - Or a switch. Yeah. And then my mom would beat me while my dad was hanging out with Gordon. Getty. Yeah, so there we go everybody. - Yeah. - That's his life. - That's that guy. - Tough man. Growing up with a stutter and dyslexic, you know? - Yeah. - He had nothing and, yeah, tough life. - He just addressed, I guess we have that, we have that clip of him addressing the UN. I think you liked that tweet, did you see that? - Yeah, I just do because everything is fear. I don't know, he's just, he's so scared, he's gotta protect us from, it's also a weird thing where he's gonna protect Californians from Trump, although we'd like Trump to come and help us rebuild California. But here's, I don't even know why he's speaking from the UN, did they need to hear fucking Gavin News themselves? - I don't know, I don't know. - All right, here it is. - We're not falling prey to the cynicism, the anxiety that I think all of us feel picking up the paper, watching TV, listening to the punetry. Thank you for being the antidote to that cynicism. - The UN is a corrupt organization, it's never fucking done shit for anybody, ever. There's just one big money laundering corrupt. They're totally unnecessary, we don't fucking need them, they've never done anything, and they're full of shit. And no, I don't know this thing about, we're all sitting around feeling anxiety and cynicism. This is the way it talks now, by the way, everything's about feeling anxiety. - That's what he's about, man. He's about stamping out injustices, getting out there. - The UN is a big, fat, corrupt organization who does nothing, and we shouldn't be in them. All right, keep going with Gavin, sorry. - Sitting in the punetry. Thank you for being the antidote to that cynicism, fear and anxiety. I was here three years ago, it felt very different in the United States. - Yeah, 'cause we had a dead guy's president. - You heard that speech from my president yesterday, but called for a genocide of 93 million people. - What? He did? - He got the normal about that. - Call for the normal about this thing. - Wait, what speech? - 93 million? - I thought it was 89 million, but he said he called for the genocide of 93 million people. Who has 93 million people? - What is he talking about, though? - I don't know, but he called for it. - Do you guys know about it? - He's talking about Iran, I guess. - I guess, how do we get going on these genocides, though? We're gonna have a genocide in Palestine. We're gonna have one in Iran. Once it's start, you know what I mean? Like, where's the genocide party? Is there gonna be a viewing party? Where's all the genocide? Yeah, all right, must be Iran. Yeah, call for the genocide, once I'm all done. All right, good folk over there in Iran too. Let's hear what else he has to say. - I'm proud to represent, yes, the fourth largest economy in the world is-- - No, he brought it up, there he goes. - The population's combined. I'm proud to represent a state that was the founding state, San Francisco, of the United Nations in 1945. I'm also proud to represent a state that's 27% foreign-born, where we practice pluralism. Don't tolerate our diversity. We celebrate our diversity. That's what has allowed us to become the fourth largest economy in the world. - All right, listen, Los Angeles should become Tijuana, you fucking retard. So I don't know why we have to celebrate our diversity. All diversity is the cause, that's the reason. That's the reason why we're the fourth largest economy in the world. - And I know, it doesn't make us stronger and it doesn't help in any way. Now, if the folks who come here assimilate, then it does help. - This isn't like the main room in the UN though. This is like the UN side stage. - He's playing the annex. - He's got that-- - This isn't like-- - It's not Madison Square Garden, that's the-- - If you go to the ice house, they got that little room, it's the bellroom. If you go to the ice house, they got that little room on the left when you come up the driveway, the 45-seater. - So I don't think they should-- - They don't even take this guy seriously. They're not, he's not playing the real-- - He's workshoppin' it. - Yeah, he's got a run-- - I gotta run my hour. - And then he's gonna get up on his feet and then he's going to the main room with the shitty tile. - Oh man. - The shitty Jade tile. - Yeah, I'm gonna work the room with this weird fucking lady statue. - Yeah, then he'll lock with them. - Yeah, all right, let's hear if he has anything more to say. - Thus, to become the fourth largest economy in the world, we also have this to share. We're also the most untrumped state in the United States of America. - Good. - That's important. - That's important. - Because there's probably nothing more important on this topic that you'll hear today than the imperative of ending Trump's presidency as we know it. - I just paused. I just sit around and go, Jesus Christ. Could I live in a state where the governor wasn't going to battle with the president over everything all the time? - When the fuck does this guy actually govern California? - I don't, like how does he fucking, he doesn't do it. - He's never in here. - He's never fucking here. - He doesn't, all he talks about is feelings and fighting Trump. I have no, if he brought up traffic one time, I would have a fucking heart attack. If him or Nithia Ram and their Karen Bassist went, "You know what, there's too much goddamn traffic "in this fucking town. "This state's got too much traffic. "We've got to fucking thin this out. "We've got to work this out. "I'm working out." Like if they ever brought up one thing you cared about, I'd fucking have a heart attack. - The weirdest thing is we're going to miss this guy when you have a year to go. - Oh, that's true. Yeah, we're going to get some of those street tackles, tackles. (laughs) - Get tackled with being some guy got a fucking smart and final, Jesus Christ. - All right, this is interesting. This is one of your jokes. So Barbie, Mattel, they just put out their first ever Hanukkah Barbie. - Hanukkah Barbie. - Yeah, and they got into some trouble. - Don't, does anyone ever learn their lesson? Ever, you just can't say anything or do anything. - You do, man. What are you doing? - Nobody in the Mattel boardroom is like, what are you doing, man? - Working on Hanukkah Barbie. - We're going to do Hanukkah Barbie. Anyway, people are upset with the size of her nose. - They're upset. - Yeah, 'cause they think it's a, you know. - Well, what they gave her? They gave her a menorah sweater. And she's got a shnauz on her. - Yeah, she's got, she has a, like a larger protruding nose. Larger than, 'cause here's the thing. They put out two other Christmas Barbies at the same time. They put out a white Barbie and a black Barbie girl. And then they put out Hanukkah Barbie. And they were like, wait, Hanukkah Barbie's nose is way bigger than these other ladies with the fuck. So they're pissed off. - Well, don't we have to sort of represent accurately features of folk. Like, if you're gonna do black Barbie's friends, she's got to be black, right? Like, people have different features. Can they not be represented? Like, you know, Jewish folk generally have a bigger shnauz than the Anglo folk, but maybe this Barbie, but the Jews have enough money and no enough plastic surgeons that they can get their nose fixed. That should have been the deluxe Barbie package that you get this one first. - Come with the extra shnauz when you get the nose job. - Truck, he's part of the tribe. - Rhino Plasty Barbie? - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, 'cause Jewish girls, they're educated, they're dads or doctors, and they know the business. So they could definitely, they have an inside line to a plastic surgeon to get the Rhino Plasty. So that's interesting. - This is not fair, man, it just seems like a nice girl. We don't need to get upset over this. That looks like that I had a dated a Jewish girl in high school. She was one of my favorite girlfriends, and that's a great, that's a nice looking girl right there. - I agree. - Yeah. - I agree too. - Yeah. - I think it's weird that we're more upset about this than the Macklemore outfit from two weeks ago. - Oh, right. That's an older picture, but yes, when he went with Jew face, that. Yeah, that was pretty weird. That was old timey Hitlerian propaganda chew face he had on that's not modern day Barbie chew face. You know, that was straight up from the ghettos in Poland. Yes. Yeah. That's from a leaflet in Hamburg in 1939. Yes. That's what that was from. Yes. So we should be more upset over that other than Barbie. But look, here's the thing. Now converse came out with an ad a couple of days back, a few days back and they said it was racist, a clan hood. I don't know. It was a Korean chick wearing a skirt. I didn't even know what it was. I looked by the way, if I have to look at something five times and I can't figure out why it's racist, it may not be racist. You know what I mean? It's sort of like if you tell someone to joke and you repeat, you have to keep repeating the punch line because they don't know what you're talking about. Maybe it's not a funny joke is what I'm saying. I don't know what the KKK controversy was with this. It was a truck. I don't like tweets. It was a like tweet from, I think, two days ago. So the point is this, I don't know what it was. It was a commercial with a Korean girl wearing converse high tops and a white skirt. They cropped it and essentially what it is, it's a light is illuminating a star like the converse all stars. So you can see the star at the bottom, right? Yeah. We had the picture checked. We'll go back to that. Go back to that. It's the top point of the star that they, that somebody just, you know, cropped and go back to that. Wait, you just showed, but so their idea was this is the converse all star. This is the star. Oh, and part of the star illuminated up her white dress. Yeah. And it looks like a clan hood, because that's like, that's like a magic eye book from like the 90s where you have to squint to see it. Like that's, that doesn't count that. What is this? Well, here's my question. And this is a big problem we're having in society retards. Do you think converse set about to make a clan ask KKK add? Do you think that's what converse did? Like they go, oh, but this looks like do you think that's what they said about to do? And if the answer is no, well, then shut the fuck up. And this is how you know that racism is not really a problem here in the United States because every time they still have to manufacture it. Yes, it was the same as that target Halloween outfit that was a few weeks back where it's like, this is racist because it's a black kid and an orange Halloween outfit. Like, sorry. Now. And also, let's not forget who owns converse. Nike? Nike figure out. Yeah. I'm pretty sure Nike's not racist. What kind of shoe did Dr. J wear 50 years ago? Converse. Converse. Same with Magic Johnson. It's just, yeah, as the goofy one. So the real problem is converse then immediately apologizes. And then when you apologize, there is some guilt involved. I saw this coming a million years ago. I remember I got into an argument with my mom over something. I don't know what it was, but my mom, because she was progressive, she was like, just apologize, just apologize. And I was like, no, she's like, why can't you apologize? I go, if I apologize, then it suggests that I did this thing on purpose that offended you that I didn't do. So my apologizing then makes it into this thing comes to fruition and like it succeeds. I mean, it's like someone's, it's like you are interpreting this thing the wrong way. Just apologize. When converse apologizes, the answer should be, hey, nut jobs. I don't know what you're talking about. We worked on this campaign two gay guys in a Korean guy worked on this campaign. There's no clansmen involved there. It doesn't behooves us. And maybe you should move on to some real problems. Hey, black community, 30% of your kids are raised without a dad. Go, go, go work on that. Go work on that. Go work on gun violence in the inner city. Go work on whatever the test scores and Baltimore. You're finding a clan hood in a converse commercial. That's a waste of your time. So by the way, sorry, not sorry, we didn't do anything. You can't fucking land your back and look at clouds and they get angry when they form a news or clansmen or burning cross. You guys are nuts. You're obsessed with this. Now fucking go pound sand. Go find it somewhere else. Go to where it actually is. Not us. We're target. We're trying to sell Halloween costumes. We're converse. We're trying to sell townishes. And by the way, we wanted a blonde haired white chick with big tits for this thing. And we fucking put a skinny Korean chicken there just to shut you ass holes up. But you're going to find race everywhere all the time anyway. They always apologize to these people. And when they apologize to the people, it makes it real. It's kind of a, I told you guys the long, long tale of Tom Cruise and his people coming at us and accusing us of planting a story about Tom Cruise. And the great Mike August said, well, just call him and tell him we'll get it taken down. And for the same reason, I said, stop. Don't do it. Don't do it because they think we planted. If you call them and go, we'll get it taken down. It means we're guilty. Okay. See what I'm saying? Yeah. You know what, you know what every word and, and by the way, target cave, they always do this, they always do a prepared statement like, sorry, we'll do better. Fuck off. That's our Wellean bullshit. We'll do better. The answer should be, I don't know what you're talking about. Go find racism where it exists because it's not here. And that would slow the role and that would shut them down and it would stop them from shaking you down to everybody just apologizes. And also they go, we'll do better. We'll do better. Sounds like you did it on purpose or, or, or, or, or, we'll do better. Sounds like they had a point. It sounds like the people who can play. Where is, where is the response from converse and where's the response from target? When you read those two responses, you realize what we're doing wrong, do not fucking apologize and don't take it down. You know what these people need? They need like reality. They need shut up. This isn't a thing like basically we're going into a, you're going to, when you go into your kids room and, and they're nine and they go, I think the boogie man's under the bed. You don't go, oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh shit. Oh my God. You come sleep with us. You go, there's no boogie man. Shut up and go to bed. Yeah. You freak them out when you verify. That's a good. That's a good end zone message. There's no boogie man. All right. I'm sorry. Chuck has it. While he's looking for that. Okay. Do we have it? We can move on to our next story. Hold on. I have targets official response. Okay. Let's see if we can get it in black and white. Figure that out. As for you. Okay. Go ahead. As a company, we know we got this wrong and we are deeply sorry. Okay. You didn't get it wrong. You're not deeply sorry. You're selling a costume, an orange, okay, already, you're sounding racist here. You're selling a Halloween costume and you put a black kid in the costume because you're progressive. But okay. The costume is offensive and should never have been part of our assortment. It is no longer available for sale. We know this is especially hurtful for our black guests. Right. Okay. You're treating black people like infant, retarded infants here. Team members and partners. Team members and partner. Black guests. Black guests. Team members. Black guests. Yeah. Removing the costume is an important first step. First step. And the company is looking closely at how this happened and what needs to change to ensure that this won't happen again. Would you please stop validating insane black people? You're hurting their culture. You're hurting these people. You're hurting them. What they need is reality, which is you guys got problems but it ain't fucking targets outfits and it ain't converse. You got real problems. Now go fucking find them and focus on that. By the way, this is going to cure the problem in the black community. Converse. Let's hear what Converse has to say. And also, you're giving them more momentum and you're freaking them out. The real answer is I don't know what you're talking about. This is nuts. No one hears racist. Get the fuck on with your life. Converse said, we're sorry. We understand why this image is deeply upsetting and recognize that we got this wrong. They got it wrong. They put a Korean chick in a fucking Poodle skirt and they took a picture. We removed it from our channels and are working to remove it everywhere it appeared. This should not have happened and we will do better. It is a Korean chick who looks like she's 15 in a white skirt holding Converse. With a light and one of the spikes of the stars. was illuminated on her skirt. Now, I'm sorry, black community. If you see that there, that's on you. That has nothing to do with converse and what they were doing. Now, all you're going to get is more of this shit because these fucking pussy cowards cave to the black community. And by the way, black community, if you're listening, understand, converse doesn't think that got anything wrong. Target doesn't think they got anything wrong. All they want to do is shut you the fuck up. They don't lose sleep over it. They don't have meetings or like, wow, I'm really internally torn over this dilemma about the damage we've done. They don't think two things. All they want you to do is go away and shut the fuck up. And then we're going to get on with their lives. They don't think they did anything. They know they didn't do anything. They're basically treating you like a zookeeper would treat its animals like it's your fault. You shouldn't put the tigers in with the ostriches. That was our fault. It's embarrassing. You should meet whoever leveled this should be embarrassed and they should not speak for you. And none of these entities care one shit. They have zero feelings of remorse about this because they did nothing wrong. They just think you're dumb and they want to get the fuck on with their lives. So sleep well at night. And whoever is in charge of leveling these accusations go into the black community and find real problems. Please, it'll be helpful for them. All right, tomorrow, Casper Wyoming, RALTO theater, two shows over there. And then S.H. Park, home of the shining, going to be there, two shows as well. You're going to have a crew that come for all the live shows. Are you going to potstown Andrew? I sure am. Andrew is a top-notch world class comedian. He'll be with me at Souljoules over there. That's October 9th, 10th. You're going to have a crew that come for a live shows until next time, Adam. For Andrew and Victor Davis, Hanson, Sam, Mahala. Victor, phone, leave us a voicemail at 888-644-1744 and they get to get to C.D.A.'s man at AdamCurl at our com. Some mysteries have haunted us for centuries. Others are unfolding right now. This is history's greatest mysteries. 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