Victor Davis Hanson: The FBI’s Secret Trump Probe, Birthright Citizenship, and the WNBA’s Race War

- That whole WNV, people, they only go now, audiences, it's because of Caitlin Clark, and I guess the players who hate them also are savvy and they're thinking, so what we're going to do is every time we see a white player who's doing very well, we're gonna hit him in the face when they're on the floor, we'll make more money than we ever have because fans will wanna see us go out and beat up people, and then go on social media and stir up racial animosity, it's a circus, it's a sideshow. - Well, hello ladies and hello gentlemen, and welcome to Victor Davis Hanson, in his own words, I'm Jack Fowler, the host, you're here to get some wisdom and analysis from the great Victor Davis Hanson, who is the Martin and Eli Anderson Senior Fellow at the Hoover Institution and the Wayne and Marcia Busky Distinguished Fellow in History at Hillsdale College, he's also a senior contributor to the Daily Signal, which is the producer and happy home, not only of this podcast, but of Victor Davis Hanson, in a few words, they do that four times a week, they're about eight minute videos, check that out, also check out Victor's website, The Blade of PerseusVictaHanson.com is the address, please do consider subscribing. There's tons of free stuff there, but if you're a fan of Victor, you wanna read the two exclusive pieces he writes every week for The Blade of Perseus, and he also does an exclusive video every week. It's $65 a year, you just want to do in a month or two, go ahead, it's $6.50 a month, but take the whole year and year, it's discounted, it's like getting two months free. This episode, Victor, as you know, we are just talking on Sunday, August 9th, this episode will be up on Tuesday, August 11th. I'm told I should give the year also, 20, 26. So much to talk about, Victor, there's an amazing amount of trans/vasketball craziness. We have Tucker Carlson's 10 point plan, we have another looksie at, looksie. Expo's A of the FBI going after Donald Trump in his first term. This is the Oxford comma case. Birthright citizenship, the president has put out an executive water on that, so much more to get your wisdom on, Victor. We will do that when we come back from these initial important messages. - I'm Brendan Steinhauser, CEO of the Alliance for Secure AI. We're working every day to make sure that AI is safe, secure, and aligned with American values. - We are back with Victor Davis Hanson in his own words, "Victor before we start." I'm springing in Sony, but last night, Turner Classic movies was, it was Steve McQueen night. So it was about, I think it was 10 o'clock here on the East Coast and Bullet came on. And I've seen Bullet now probably 20 times, and there's such a great movie. - You like it? - I don't know if I ever liked it. - Oh, I love it. - Is it like a 15 minute car chase? - Yes. - I saw it not long. I watched the Thomas Crown affair and that thing. - Both movies, this is something about how they're filmed, they're beautifully filmed. I could watch Thomas Crown affair over and over. That chess game scene here, yeah, that's a little-- - Norman, Norman, that was the rise of fade on the way. She had just done Bonnie and Clyde. She had that hit, and then Steve McQueen had the sand pebbles coming up and-- - Yeah, he'd done the great escape. - Great escape. - Yeah, he was-- - But the scenes of San Francisco are just wonderful. - I know, I always thought-- - That was filmed in what, '72? - Maybe in the late '60s, I was in the late '60s. - When we used to go up to San Francisco, I thought that was like the hippie movement, everything was dirty, but today it looks pristine, compared to San Francisco today. I don't think we have any idea the fall of civilization from the supposed fall of civilization in the '70s. 70s look like Utopia compared today, you know? - Turner, Turner classic movies is reminding us of what life-- - We were driving yesterday and it should have been an easy hour and 40 minute drive, and we just passed on the '99, the highway of death, just passed the last exit before our exit to get to the farm, and there's a bottleneck. We sat there for over an hour, and they shut down all three lanes in Selma. It made the national news. - What happened? - Well, a box truck, you know, one of those box trucks, medium size truck, had a flat tire or he had some kind of, and he had pulled over to the right lane, and a truck driver with a double trailer, with 8,500 gallons of gasoline, went swerved over to the shoulder and hit him, and caused a huge inferno. Neither one was injured, but I, you know, it's such a therapeutic culture. There's no idea of any of the drivers. They didn't release, of course. So we don't know what the status of the person who caused the accident was. Was he here legally or not? I don't know. But he seemed to be, seemed, I want to make sure that it's not confirmed to be at fault. Anytime you hit somebody that's safely on the side of the road, and then when they, one of the highway patrolmen said, this could have been a lot worse. It could have been that two people, and this, you know, had kind of a good end to it. I said, I thought to myself, no, it didn't. You, the main artery north to south in California, for, I guess, 12 hours was shut down. I don't think it opened fully until 10 p.m. And it, it just ruined the Saturday commute or vacations of thousands of people. And then it had this toxic, billowing gasoline, black fume as the whole trailer, its plastics, its rubber all went up in the arrow, Versaume. And it, it's, what I'm trying to say is we don't really weigh all of the discomfort to the average citizen because we're so worried that we don't want to identify a driver who did it. And we don't want a lot blame who did it. And the first preliminary report said, well, he made an improper lane change. I don't know what that means. If it's what I see every time I go over to Sanford, it means some crazy truck driver is just the last moment. Moving sometimes with its signal and sometimes mod, either from the middle to the left or from the right, if there's three lanes to the middle and the, and the presumative assumption is, do you want to challenge 20 tons? Go ahead. So it's a very dysfunction, that's a little sidebar on how dysfunctional this state has become. It's everywhere, Victor. Similar leads might be related in my town, Millford, Connecticut, last week. A senior, so an old lady was attacked by a young man in a, just in a regular neighborhood. I wasn't on the, it wasn't sales, commercial strip, right? And what, he was 21 and he was shouting, all the off bars, he was beating her up. And two guys just happened to drive by and stop it. So you're reading the story and you were not like, okay, what are they gonna, what they're gonna get this guy's name and say who he is and why, nothing, none of that. None of that. Don't we deserve to know that? Yeah, they had the other guy who, did you see the guy this week who just walked across the street and hit that girl in the face and then starts, oh yeah, got over the black guy and she was a young white girl and he started screaming at her. Not chasing her, yeah. And he'd been nine felonies more than that and they knew about him, they let him out. And Ricardo's brown has not even gone up for trial yet 'cause I guess he's mentally unfit. As if anybody is mentally fit who goes and slits the throat of a girl that's innocently, you know, reading her phone on the, I don't understand that. Yes, he is mentally unfit. Nobody normal does that. That does not mean he shouldn't face life in prison without parole, you know what I mean? Yeah, and I don't understand where they don't get that. Somebody put up a meme, I saw it yesterday of six or seven of these criminals of infamous final crimes was 54 arrests, one murder. You know, 37 arrests, et cetera. It just how the guy in Northern Virginia who killed that lady at the bus stop. Like how many times do you have to get arrested and threatened society? When you go look at this and you think very rationally, disinterestedly and you say, where does this come from? All roads lead to the university, the postmodern university. The schools of education that teach this, the DEI programs, the criminal, critical legal theory, critical race theory, critical law enforcement theory, all of these bad ideas originate there, then they seep into the media, then they seep into the bureaucracy [BLANK_AUDIO] and the people don't want any of them. And I'm really going through a transformation to somebody who's spent 55 years in the academic world. Nothing I did, I didn't have other things to do. But it's a toxic experience. I think, except for the STEM courses and computers, science, all of the professional schools like medicine, I'm leaving law and education out, and the PhD program. But MBAs, and all that stuff, there might be positive. But I don't see any positive thing the university's doing anymore. When you see Claudine Gay, did you just see her salary that was announced? No, it was by assuming it's over a million dollars. It's over a million. But unless I read the article, sloppily, she had some kind of bonus from the first year or something, she got maybe reached over $3 million. She should have been fired, summarily fired. She was a plagiarist. And they made the president of Harvard University, when they knew there were rumors that she had plagiarized. And so we'll talk about the Cambridge Jason Ardae fiasco. But the universities have no credibility anymore. None. They have no right to criticize anybody. They will not police their own. They just won't do it. If it's a DEI matter, they just won't. It's a similar victory. I just saw today talking about Jason Ardae, which we may get to in the next episode we record to give it a lot of time. But it kicked up. This investigation kicked up that the University of Maryland, Eastern Shore, president for now for about nine years, named as Heidi Anderson. So her 1986 dissertation, which is on computer-assisted instruction in pharmacy education, it's a nursing degree, was a huge plagiarism lift from a 1984 paper by somebody else who was an associate professor at Grand Valley State College at MIT. To bald-faced plagiarists-- well, if you can be a plagiarist in Run Harvard, I guess you can be a plagiarist in Run University, Maryland, Eastern Shore. But it seems like it's right throughout the industry. I would just say if anybody is writing a PhD in social science, and any of the title of the thesis or the abstract has anything to do with the social sciences, or DEI, I would just-- I would guilt by association, maybe deductive, and I'd say read this very carefully, because most people from 2020 on in the university thought there are no consequences to normal transgressions because of DEI. And if you can say that you are a tormented trans person or you're a victim of misogynist thought, or homophobia, or racism, whatever that critical race theory, white supremacy, any of that stuff, then you get a pass, and when you get a pass, human nature being what it is, you will take advantage of that. And that's what's happened in the last six years. And the universities think they were so neat and cool, and they were bragging how they were the avatars of social change. And all they did was go over the cliff and destroy the reputation that had been built up for a century. And create an army of leftists orcs also. So unemployable, but demanding six figure salaries living in Brooklyn types. Hey, Victor, let's talk about the FBI. But I just have to say, folks who are watching this, you'll notice over Victor's shoulder and you see over my shoulder. The counter revolution. September 8th. Yep, so less than a month away now, folks. So on Victor's website, you'll find the link and do order it. So I'm picking this off of Kane Koa the Great on X. And he writes, "Breaking. Classified FBI, memo show that Bureau opened a secret probe on President Trump himself in May, 2017, codenamed Oxford comma, alleging he was a Russian asset for firing Comey. Signed off by FBI General Counsel James Baker and counterintel chief Bill pre-stab. McCabe and Rosenstein were told it triggered Mueller. The problem was they already knew Russian collusion was dead, agent Barnett. By early 2017, there was no evidence of collusion by Flynn page or Papadopoulos. He called the whole probe collusion clue, pick any person, any activity called it evidence. Steel's own sub-sourced and checo was suspected of being a Russian asset. And told the FBI his info was hearsay. Three days after the Oxford comma opened, lead agent Strozik told Lisa Page, "No big there there." The collusion is dead, yeah. So anyway, this is yet another-- No, not another. I mean, it went from opera. All it was was phase two of Operation Crossfire. That was the Hillary Clinton attempt via steel dossier to destroy-- she had four paywalls. Remember three paywalls. The DNC and the Perkins Coey. And then she did Perkins Coey DNC. And then she had another one as well. And so you couldn't trace it back to her personally. But that second phase was after Obama was elected. And when they all met in his office, Comey, Brennan, Clapper. And he ordered them to dig deeper. And that-- that berth is Oxford comma. And the weird thing about it was they misspelled O-X-F-O-R-D-F-E-R-D. I thought, why would they do that? Well, there was a dairy case, in Maine, called Oxford comma. A big sensational case. And a lot of people wanted freedom of information. So they thought by just changing a letter that people would get confused. And they would just be sending-- they would be requesting stuff for a dairy probe. So when all these people said, we want to know what this-- we heard something about Oxford comma. They would write Oxford comma, the right spelling. And they would get information from the government back about a dairy case. And not this. I mean, they were widely-- You know, I wrote something down to myself, just a note. I said, any time you hear the left get outraged about a transgression that Trump has done, it's pretty much a boomerang effect or maybe psychological projection. So they're now saying the cash per tell weaponize the FBI. And that just tells me, no, you're still trying to hide James Comey leaking documents from a confidential call to Trump via the New York Times to destroy him. You're still trying to hide the fact that Andrew McCabe, the interim director, lied four times to federal investigators. You're still trying to hide the fact that the attorney, Kevin Klein Smith, forged a document and submitted it to the FISA court apparently. Andrew McCabe didn't stop it or he didn't check. And you're still trying to hide the fact that Christopher Rae was completely out of control whether sending people after anti-abortion people or school board meetings to see if parents were transphobic. You name it or couldn't even tell us how many informants there were on January 6th. And of course Robert Mueller claiming he didn't know what the steel dossier was under oath or James Comey who suddenly had amnesia 245 times. So it's a general thing that I just starts thinking of that. And so then I went through yesterday all the democratic hysterias. One of them now, have you seen it? They're very angry because three state attorney generals have said we don't care if Fauci committed a felony or broke the law on the federal level. We're going to look and see if he did it on the state level if he made a call to state official and lied or something. And everybody said, you can't do that. That's a federal offense. Could I remind all you people on the left that Alvin Bragg was a municipal prosecutor. Fannie Willis was a county prosecutor. Latita James was a state prosecutor. Somehow on November 18th of 2024, Fannie Willis' paramour ended up in the White House. And Michael Koangelo, who just left Alvin Bragg's New York, excuse me, Latita James, a state prosecution, left as a federal prosecutor to go where to Alvin Bragg's prosecution. And on that same day, they appointed Jack Smith, a special prosecutor. So they set the model that state prosecutors apparently can go after federal officials who may have broken federal laws. Because they went after Trump and they used every lever they had local counties state. The extra thing, they're angry about the IRS. They say, Trump might weaponize the IRS. Do we remember Lois Loner in 2019? In 2020, she was running audits on nonprofit conservative organizations so they couldn't really get certified before the election. She didn't want them there. Do you remember the New York legislature passed a bill of a tanger to basically target Trump so that if a sympathetic left-wing congress committee, and there were a lot, wanted to look at his leaked, leaked, leaked tax returns. Do you remember that? They leaked Trump's tax returns, and then the state of New York said, "Well, if they want his state confidential, we'll send them to." And they passed a bill to that effect. Then I was reading about election denialism. Trump was still, there was this new information about the 2020 election that you've alluded to that we should be really concerned about more people voted that may not have been qualified. But I remember Hillary Clinton saying right after the election that Trump was a illegitimate president. I remember that. Jimmy Carter said he wasn't legitimately elected. Stacey Abrams toward the country for two years claiming that she was the elected governor of Georgia, even though she lost by 50,000 votes. Al Gore said that George W. Bush was selected, not elected. I remember that. He's selected. He's not elected. The New York Times is going to prove that. So they looked at all the counties that Al Gore sued to have the count that the Supreme Court lost, and they looked at the ballots, and they said, "Oh, my gosh, George W. Bush really did win." And then we had 2004 when John Kerry lost. We had members. I think it was 35 House members said that they were not going to sanction the electoral vote in Ohio. I don't need to say about the politicized Supreme Court. They had no problem when they have done statistics about do conservatives vote overwhelmingly as a block on conservative issues versus liberal issues. They found that I was looking at this 60 to 64% of conservative Supreme Court judges can vote predictably conservative, but 70 up to 70% of the three liberals, of course. The thing I like is the outrage about congressional subpoenas and Fauci. You can't, subpoena federal bureaucrat or a person working for the government and harass them. Remember, they arrested Peter Navarro and put handcuffs on his legs and out in public, and then they went out for banning, and at least they said, "Honestly, I don't want to go. I'm not going to go." And what was the difference in Fauci going and then 111 times saying I'm not going to testify? So there's a precedent, and then domestic spine. We've got to be careful about Donald Trump. He's may spy on his enemies. You mean like Obama going after the associate press reporter or Jack Smith, just going after not only the data on their phone, senders and congresspeople, but their text messages, going to the archives to get them. So all of these things that you see every day about the horrible things that Donald Trump is doing are mostly projection, because they have done it in the past. And if you, I'm not defending if Trump were to do some of these things, but if he were to do it, it was because they lowered the bar of what's acceptable so much that it became normative behavior. And it just reminds you that I know that they're socialists, and I just don't think they have any ideology other than I'm going to a vague idea of a mandated equality of result. And I'll do any means necessary to gain power to enact it, but mostly to benefit myself. Yeah. A quality of lousy result for everyone else as long as I have a DACA by the shoreline. Hey Victor, let's talk about birthright in a second, but first to our listeners and our viewers, here's something you don't see every day, a chance to win an almost $600 bundle of premium preparedness gear. Look, a more self-reliant America is built by people like you and me. It starts with people who take responsibility, make a plan, and prepare before we're tested. 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So Victor, a Donald Trump issued a few executive orders this past week, but let's look at the one that would end birth tourism, and this is from the preamble of it. Birth tourism operators use deceptive advertisements and deducesments to entice foreign nationals to travel to the United States for the purpose of giving birth on American soil. They promise citizenship, access to public benefits, and short term stays in specialized facilities, hotels, or rentals, but often fail to deliver on these promises. These operators coach their clients to misrepresent the purpose and duration of their travel, to consular and border officials, to obtain visas, authorizing entry into the United States. Failure to appropriately combat these schemes has resulted in thriving industries around the world, that profit by enabling the evasion of American immigration laws to obtain citizenship, and other immigration benefits for foreign visitors, and the exploitation of the women who travel here for the purposes of giving birth. That's just one of the recent cited in this executive order, Victor. Your thoughts on Donald Trump's action? I don't think anybody believes that those senators and Congress people that drafted the fourth-eenth amendment and the state legislatures that passed it had any idea that this bill would allow people in mass to fly in, travel in, take any method of transportation possible in their ninth month of pregnancy, and have a baby, and then have that baby have all the rights and privileges of U.S. citizens me, and then in many cases take them back to their country as an anchor, and then apply for an order to get a visa to take care of the baby here. That wasn't the tent of the, it was intended to clarify the status of Native Americans and ex-black slaves, and it's been completely misused, everybody knows that. The only way to deal with it now because the Supreme Court has ruled, and there's no way in the world that you're going to get a two-thirds majority in the Senate, and you're not going to get three-quarters of the state legislatures to overturn it. The only thing to do is just to, I know Trump has issued an executive order, but yeah, just say if you're in your eighth or ninth month or six months on, you're not going to get a visa to come to the United States from the following countries. Just get a list of all the countries where this has taken place. China, Mexico, many countries in Latin America, Africa, and just say, if you were pregnant in your sixth month, you are not coming into this country. And I think you could stop it. And then, of course, they would sue and say that was cruelty and inhumane behavior. But getting a visa to come in is not a right of a foreign national, it's what Marco Rubio has tried to tell people it's a privilege. You don't have to give visas to every Tom Dick and Harry to come in the United States, especially when they come in to abuse the system. And the thing about immigration, we all want legal, diverse, limited in the sense you can assimilate people of self-sustaining autonomous individuals. But when you have masses come in here and they're abusing the system like we see in Minnesota or Los Angeles, or they're using it to get babies to anchor other people to come in or they're defrauding the government. And when you have no civic education to assimilate people, and as I said with Samuity at her day, I think maybe it was with you, 28% of the population of California was not born in the United States. And when you add their parents, that is, so those are just first generation. But if you add their children, second generation, you get another 7 or 8 million, you get up to about 46% of this state's population, either they were not born in the United States or their parents were not born. That is an enormous task of assimilation, acculturation, integration. That means you have to tell people, we have a voluntary tax system. required but we the only on you, you must pay your taxes. If you open a little canteen on a crossroads and you're selling things, there are taxes involved. If you go to a swap meet, there are sales taxes involved. If you go into a emergency room, you should have an ID. If you engage in felonious behavior, and you're convicted of a felony, you will be deported and leave. We don't do any of that. And here are the landmark dates of American history. Here's the Revolutionary War. You should know who Thomas Jefferson was. You should know who Abraham Lincoln was. You should know who Elyseez's as Grant was. You should know all of these things. History of the United States is not the atomic Hiroshima and Harriet Tubman and the Japanese internment. These are important events, but they're not the story of the United States. We're not making any of that effort and we have chaos now. I can see it in a town where most people are first or second generation immigrants. Many of them are wonderful, but they came legally in their self-supporting and they're hard working. But when you have even a minority of a small minority, maybe 10%, but you have such a huge denominator of millions of people, like 12 million or 10 under your Biden, and that denominator says, even if the numerator is small, it's going to be a large number of people. And it makes life very difficult to live here. And what do I mean by that? I mean, if you're a U.S. citizen and your grandmother needs dialysis and you go to a dial, it'll be crowded. If you have an emergency, you go to a ER, it'll be packed. If you vote, you're not sure that somebody did not get a mail-in ballot requiring no ID when he went to the Disability Office and he's going to vote and cancel out your vote. If you're down on the freeway, you have no idea of if the truck driver is one of the 20 to 30 to 40,000 licenses, your governor gave out to illegal aliens who had no training and didn't pass the test, at least the standards of others did, and he may kill you. So that's what we're talking about. That's why people are very angry about it. They really are. I think for a lot of people, Victor, when we talked about before with higher education and here with birthright citizenship, these mystic courts and memory of things from and attitudes from 80, 100 years ago that are no longer the case. I mean, Mr. Magoo is not an arachun coat and a pennant anymore of college, but there's still this sense that that goes on and with birthright citizenship. I think of this great movie with Charles Boyet and Olivia DeHavl and Holback the Dawn, which has this kind of a side theme about birthright citizenship in it, but you think at the time that people who came here, they wanted to be Americans. They didn't want to exploit America and the dynamics are totally different now. Especially with the wellness. We have a collective arrogance. We think that we inherited such a strong country from our parents and grandparents. This indestructible. Regan was really the first president to say we can lose what we have in one generation if the values are not passed on to the next and we haven't been passing them on. So we can lose this country very easily and there's a large swath to this country where we've lost it. If anybody who walks into downtown Los Angeles under Karen Bass, we've lost it. It's no longer as civilizational. When I was at teaching at Pepperdine, that would be a few years ago and I would ride my bike from Santa Monica to Torrance. It was like navigating the third world. It really was. I had been to Old Cairo. It was no different with the homeless on the street, on the bike path. It was just eating, throwing trash, defecating, urinating in front of you. It's medieval. If you don't believe me, we have a record number of typhus cases in Los Angeles. That's always a tip off of civilization going into reverse when rat population is allowed to proliferate and you have lice and then you get fleas and lice and you get spread of this medieval disease. It kills hundreds of thousands of people if left on check. We have this image about, "Wow, that's medieval." You know what's also so strange about the left is, they really don't care about people because all during the COVID, the only thing that by coastal elite says, "You know what, if you don't have a vaccination this experimental mRNA, I get COVID, it's your fall." That was Howard Stern would do that every day and all the celebrities, the left wing, and then they would just, they can't and ruin the careers of 8500 people in the military who didn't want to get this experimental. Even though at the same time they were letting in 10,000 people a day without a health audit from all over the poorest regions of the world and no one said a word and no one said a word that the streets were fetted with infestations from homeless people and we had diseases. Nobody said a word, nobody said a word about any of this and nobody said, "Well, don't you think the people coming in across the southern border should have a COVID vaccination if you're kicking out people who are in the military because they don't want one? You don't even know, you don't even have a, if they have TB or what?" And so they didn't. Couldn't visit grandma in the hospital but you could go to a George Floyd Arale with 10,000 people. Yeah, it's all about power, it's not, it's a very, people should remember the history of socialism and communism, it's a very anti-humanistic, anti-human philosophy, it really is, it just sees people as collectives and they're all expendable for the greater good of the quote-unquote common interest people as adjudicated by a very wealthy privilege to lead. Let me tell you how another another story, how the wheels are coming off the bus victor and I mentioned this to you earlier but it's from a New York post article, headline ex-con husband of New York police bigwig in custody after families drive by gang shooting. So this happens to do with the city of Mount Vernon which is right near the New York City, it's right near the Bronx and actually my uncle, my father's brother was a priest, he was the police chaplain for the Mount Vernon Police Department, I'm sure he's spinning in his grave, Uncle Jean, they're spinning right now. The story says the ex-con husband of a disgraced Westchester County police bigwig turned him in, himself into cops, they say, to face charges that the pair, that's him and his wife, drove their gang banger son to a botched hit in the Bronx, James Lackard 47, the husband of recently fired Mount Vernon, deputy police commissioner, Jennifer Lackard walked into the 44th precinct in the Bronx City to surrender, etc. He was arraigned hours later on the same attempted murder indictment lodged against his wife, his wife, the police commissioner of Mount Vernon, and a 20 year old son, reputed slutty gang thug, chase Lackard earlier this week, mom and dad drove chase to an attempted assassination hit outside the Bronx County Courthouse the other day, this is, and this woman, why is she even a police commissioner? What did he hire? That's the key, isn't it? She got that job and she said, because the greater society is guilt-driven, I'm going to interpret their magnumity as weakness to be exploited, not kindness to be reciprocated, so I get to do whatever I want in the moment that I do anything that breaks the law, and they try to enforce it. Upon me, I'm going to reiterate, scream racist. Remember Fannie Willis? She tried to, she went on a, she paid her paramour, didn't it tell anybody, 450,000, and they went on these junkets, and then she tried to tell us that she had no receipts, but that she had re-inversed them, and the reason that she had re-inversed them in cash was because of a historic racism against black people. I know a lot of black people, I've never had one black person tell me that they deal in cash and don't have credit cards or checks, as anybody else does. So, unless they're committing illegal activities, but it's getting, it's, I'm really worried about it because I mentioned a couple of times on the internet, there's a whole genre on YouTube, I guess you would call it race wars now, it's open, it's open, it's just open, and we saw that the WBA, did you see they hit on Sophie Cunningham by that? Well, yeah, we should get into that a little more deeply, but that has become a race issue, immediately became a race issue. She was closed-lined by Dijonet, I forget her last name, Cambridge, something like that. What I didn't understand was that here you had this player, and she was trying to stop a layup, and usually when you want to commit a foul to stop somebody, you kind of run up behind them because they're going to make the basket, and she did make the basket, and you kind of grab their hips or something or push them a little bit, and then you incur a two-shot foul, and it's kind And if he thing to do, because if they make the basket, you get one shot, and they can get three point play out of it. So you have to be very careful. But what was strange about it, she didn't even make an attempt. She just went up and conjured with her elbow. I mean, conjured like an elbow. She closed, she closed, lined her. Yeah, that's a good term. And so my point is, what did she do afterwards? Then she was, they didn't call a foul on her at first. They cut a minor foul. And then they looked at it and said it was a flagrant, and they suspended it from that game. And then she immediately, almost instantaneously, goes on social media and said, white privilege. And I'm thinking, what does white privilege mean? You mean that you got a foul, and you're so accustomed in the WNBA that if you're black, you can do this. And nobody will enforce it because you're 65. You view people not as individuals, but collectives. And the league is 65% black and maybe 35% gay. And this is a little enclave that you feel is protected. And you don't want. And then I thought, if you think it's white privilege and you're so angry, why would you acculturally appropriate blonde hair? She had a big blonde wig. And I'm thinking if Stephanie Cunningham had dreadlocks when she did that, they would call her racist. So what I'm getting at is the whole thing is so imbalanced. And we all just don't talk about it. That maybe it's because half of the African American community is doing wonderfully in terms of purchasing power. Everybody, they're reaching parity, but half are not. And nobody wants to talk about that. But when you look at this in WNBA, when it was formed in 1997 until Caitlin Clark came in 2004, it had lost 20 million to 30 million a year and more like 40 million some years. It was a charity of the NBA. And the owners bought that cheap franchises and they bought it not for economic reasons. As we saw with the owners of the Seattle team. And what I'm getting at is at every level it is weaponized. You see owners weighing in and trying to harass two young girls who happen not to say anything about trans, just say that we support Sophie. And then you see a coach deliberately wearing trans jacket. And then you see the players that are highly weaponized in racial terms and sexual orientation terms. And then you say, the whole league is this way. And nobody knew about it because nobody cared about it. It was this little tiny eddy over here from the river of American sports, a little side eddy. Nobody said, well, it's women's liberation. We should have two basketball leagues. And we know that the general public women included prefer to watch male basketball. But just to get them off our backs, we'll give them 30 or 40 million, 30 or 40 million. And they were taking buses or they were flying economy. And nobody said a word. And then all of a sudden this Caitlin Clark sensation that could hit three points from nearly half court or dunk a bat. She was amazing and she goes into this little enclave and is roughed up for being heterosexual and white. And then Sophie Cunningham, who unfortunately for the NBA, the WNBA is absolutely stunning. She's a blonde, beautiful bombshell, tall, statuask, et cetera. And that made everything she protected, Caitlin Clark. And suddenly you had two white people who were the objects of these flagrant fouls. And even the referees were in the tank. They would never call it right. And they even sports illustrated. They had a headline, did you see it? Stephanie Cunningham has karma, karma, karma. In other words, she deserved that for honestly expressing an opinion about trans. And at some point, they don't play in places like Florida. You can see why. The Florida Attorney General already said that if they had played in Florida, he would have filed a felony assault charge for that foul on Cunningham. They play mostly in blue areas or purple states. But it's very funny how we have allowed a public-- we're so critical of sports. We had the whole Colin Kaepernick phenomenon to take a knee and LeBron James lecturing us and all. And then we had this overtly racist and shavonistic gay league, which was completely intolerant to anybody who did not fit that majority stereotype, any minority who went in there and played and played well, and was an object of derision and attack in racist terms. And I'd say sexual orientation terms, too, but it would reverse from what they-- the usual cause of victimhood. And then to top it off, Caitlin Clark, according to many economists, has brought in $1 billion in revenue, media endorsements, publicity, and all of them now are making $500,000 a year from almost nothing. And they're flying first class or on private jets. They're all better off. And how do they look at that? They keep trying to injure this woman because they hate her more than the self-benefit. So where did they get that? Where was that? Where did that idea come from? It came from-- and the idea I should be define it is that you should look at people in racial terms, number one, and number two, if you act overtly racist, whether you say the N word or you go after and try to hurt somebody, you will be protected if you can qualify as a victim on the Marxist binary of oppressed oppressor. And we're free to do anything we want as long as we're a victim. And we can prove it. And that's how sick the whole thing has become. And that's why you have a coach. What was in the mind of a coach? You thought, I'm going to go across there, and I'm going to harass these two young girls who are having a support Sophie sign, co-owner of the team. Co-owner, yeah. Well, speaking of coaches, I want to bring up the coach of Sophie Cunningham's team in a second, but first, Victor, to our listeners. And viewers, for nearly 3,000 years, the great books of Western civilization have shaped the way people think about courage, honor, war, duty, family, leadership, and self-government. Homers, the Odyssey, stands among those great books. It's the epic of homecoming, exploring enduring questions about loyalty, temptation, kingship, marriage, and the good life. And that's why Hillsdale College offers free online courses on the greatest works of the Western tradition. 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We thank the good people from Hillsdale College for sponsoring Victor Davis Hanson in his own words. So Victor, interesting you mentioned the coach. So part of this Dijonet Carrington Sophie Cunningham practice from the other night, the coach of the fever, that's Sophie Cunningham. She had a press conference afterwards. And she's defending that Dijonet Carrington, the coach's white lesbian woman, Dijonet Carrington, so black woman. This coach also was the one who could not talk last week about should a guy play in the league? What is a woman? And by the way, there are two four NBA players now. Ernest Cantor Freedom. And oh my gosh, who's the other guy? I forget. Well anyway, there are two three NBA players who step up to one cop in the WNBA. He was a very bright guy. I listened to him. And he said something. Well, for purposes of the NBA, for a period of time, basically I will consider myself a transaction. Yeah, right. I have something to offer. I'll be a team player. player. I'll do whatever the coach tells me. If you can't get a coach, if you're on record that you can't define what a male and female is, but it's an acquired or you can profess your sex, then anybody can do it. All they have to do is maybe go through the motions and put a wig on. I mean, when Ward Churchill said that he was Native American, all he did was put on some buckskins and some moccasins and presto, he got affirmative action, he got everything. When Elizabeth Warren said race is just acquired, just like sexual sexuality or gender. So I'm just going to say I have high cheekbones and we weasel my way into a Harvard professorship where I'll be listed in the catalog as a first Native American professor. And so, and now do you think universities? I've talked to students by the way who've sent in DNA, a couple of them, DNA, you know, they've taken one of those. Yeah, 23 and eight. And they send them in to show they have 5% this or 3% this and this race-obsessed society. The other thing was really weird. One of the coaches in the WNBA was complaining that there wasn't enough male. I mean, there were too many male coaches and there should be more female coaches. But in the words, she's saying that we want to bring in biological males into the league and even though they may injure women. But we don't want male coaches because we can tell their male. But I'm thinking, well, what if a coach just said, put on a wig and said, I'm female for purposes of coaching. And it'll be interesting what they say to these males. Did you see that the commissioner said, we're taking man that commissioner must have been a former university dean or provost? It's complex and nuanced. Yes, they write. I don't know. There's an AEI. I know it has to be AEI that some provost thought up. This is a complex and situation. We're taking the matter with the greatest and utmost sensitivity to all parties involved and we're going to be nuanced in our investigations with no picking. It was just this is not who, you know, they every time I see this is not who we are. It's just nauseating. That whole WNB, I don't know what people, they only go now. They being the majority. I don't care what ratio are. But to the degree they have audiences, it's because of Caitlin Clark and Stephanie Cunningham. And I guess the players who hate them also are savvy and they're thinking, you know what? We're going to turn this league into big time wrestling or world wrestling federation. Because they make a lot more than we do. So what we're going to do is every time we see a white player who's doing very well, we're going to hit him in the face when they're on the floor, put a fist on their juggler vein, we're going to close line them, and then we're going to say something provocative. And when one of the girls was on the ground, the player went over and did a Stephanie point out or, you know, like this. Yeah, mocking her on the ground. And we're going to turn this into Lucia Libre, you know, everything goes. And we'll make more money than we ever have because fans will want to see us go out and beat up people and then get on social media or, you know, harass them on the ground like you were on a YouTube video. What are you going to do about it, huh? And then go on social media and stir up racial animosity and it'll be street theater and we'll make a lot more money. We were already making 500 gram. We'll make a million or two. That's what it is. It's a circus. It's a side show. What happened to Feminism picture? We went back in a time machine and the bra burning lesbians would, you think they would want many even within 10 mile radius of them, never mind playing basketball against them. The concept of men shoe horning their way into women's sports, women protected title nine protected categories. Feminism. Feminism and the aspect of equal work for equal pay and equality of opportunity was long overdue. But mandated proportional representation and shauvinism and turning that in against the war and against men and giving them privileges. We have 62% labor participation rate and a lot of the non-participants or males who are home and they think I'm not going to get a job anyway or are they think, you know, in terms of dating, well, you don't have to take a woman out and be nice to her. You don't have to take her on 17 different dates before you kiss her. You don't have to pay for the tab. You don't have to do anything. Just call her up and say, hey, come over here and come and visit me in my parents garage and then as far as sexual favors and money and all the get there are none. There are none. You don't have to promise to get married or promise to be faith any of that. And what is that done to the male? It's completed a parasitic class of males. It really helps. And then you get all these women that you'll read in Atlantic or Vogue or Vanity Fair about some frustrated far left woman says, well, there's no man. There's no man anymore. They're just reprehensible. Yes. And then you see the Wall Street Journal now that it's a big thing for Hollywood actresses to land a CEO of financial, big, wealthy guy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They're really prominent. So there are women getting arms. Yeah. Yeah. Well, Victor, there's a little more trans stuff to talk about. And that has to do with the Massachusetts Democrats Senate, primary Seth molten. And if we have some time, also we should talk about Tucker's 10 point plan. We'll do that when we come back from these final important messages. Every state is home to significant historic sites that tell the American story, but not every site is telling that story honestly and fairly. That's why the Heritage Foundation created the Heritage Guide to Historic Sites. 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But every platform out there you can catch this podcast. So Victor, I made a note here. This episode is a Trans-Appalooza, but because there's so much insanity, but Seth Moulton sort of distinguished himself after the 2024 elections. He's a congressman from Massachusetts. He served, I think he was a Marine. He served several tours in the Middle East. And he was in a debate with Ed Marke, the incumbent senator. Ed Marke has been around, I think, as a congressman, then as a senator, maybe since 1976, something like that, forever. And a day, I think it was way to earth, the last supper. But after the elections, Moulton said, "Well, one of the reasons we lost is because of all this Trans-Lunacy. I got two daughters, and I don't want them playing against boys in school." Well, this was one of the most embarrassing Mayapolpa's in the debate. He says, "To the trans community, feeling the weight and pain of the Trump administration policies, I deeply recognize your trauma. And I'm sorry if my comments hurt you. That was not my intention. I think he was, when he was blinking, he was blinking torture." He had, "I am a proud co-sponsor of the transgender Bill of Rights, a proud repeat co-sponsor of the Equality Act. I have about 100% voting record with the Human Rights Campaign. If you're in the trans community, or you're a trans kid feeling the weight of the Trump administration and the Supreme Court, you matter. You're valued and I will always have your back." And he thoughts about his performance, Victor. Translated, that means that a four-tour marine captain, bronze star winner who was, I was embedded twice since 2006 and 2007. That was a nasty time. And he, he was there the whole time in Iraq. He was on there when they were going out to the Shia militias. That was some of the nastiest fighting. So here's a heroic decorated marine. And apparently, Now he's in his late 40s and he believes it's more dangerous to cross the trans community than it is to go into a firefight in Iraq where it's played on indisputable courage. Why was he afraid of? He was afraid of two things. Number one, this 0.001 percent of the population may show up at any point when he's walking through Congress with the whole purple hair, pride, all that stuff, and scream in the L.A.D.M. and bird doggy and do what Maxine Waters told all left wing people should do to trump cabinet members, get in their faces at restaurants. And more importantly, he knows that this issue, even though it affects a very small number of people, is the civil rights issue of the left wing urban metro sexual. And I mean by that, the affluent, mostly white, but not entirely urban dweller, who is the backbone of the Democratic Party, especially in Massachusetts, where he is. And so he's running, he got redistricted, I guess, he's running against another long time. Well, this is a senate primary, so he's trying to step up, but he's running, I don't know if he feels this house seat, I was trying to say, feels it might be redistricted, I don't think it would be in Massachusetts, but so he wants to step up and he's against it. So who can out liberal, the other liberal or out, you know, so he's kind of made a fool of himself, because what he said was absolutely true, that if you have young girls and they're playing with biological males, we had a track meet here in Fresno, long ago, of high schools and a trans athlete just dominated them. And all these girls who would have won medals and been honored his first place didn't, he just dominated them. And the left always says, well, there's not that many of them, so they don't make the argument that there shouldn't be none of them in these sports. There should be no trans people dressing with young girls or any females in a locker room situation unless they've completely had trans surgical operations, so that at least to the eye that they are of the opposite sex, they're female, but that nobody talks about that. So he knew that, he knew that, that's why he gave an honest answer that was correct. And then he found out that it would come back and haunt him when somebody furthered to the left, would try to demagogue him. And so then he just, it was like a reeducation camp, you know. What do I have to do? I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Then he thought, ah, there's one thing we always do on the left when we get caught lying or we want, Trump, Trump did it. So he played the Trump card. I'm trying to battle Donald Trump's war on trend, da da da da da da da da. You know what they should do? I know that hurts a lot of people who live in blue states, but they should, maybe they should just let blue states have their trans and red states not because maybe all these people need to know who have daughters that they might have to compete against biological men and see how they like it. And they should do the same thing in the WB, I hope these athletes sue them and say, I hope that these two NBA people put on a skirt and put on long hair wig and they, you know, falsies and they go into a press conference and say we're suing these people for their transphobia. And then put, it would be incumbent upon them to prove that they weren't. I still think this is an 80/20 issue, even in blue states, many blue states. I know in Maine, which is, Maine's a little weird as states. Gavin Newsom, remember, he said the same thing. He said biological men should not be plain and he did that in a podcast, either was, I think he did it with Charlie Kerr. Yeah. And he found out that that was nothing but trouble for him among this lunatic left. And he disowned those comments. He didn't disown the ones when he said capitalism doesn't work anymore. Right. Right. Well, there's a group called back on Maine, Maine girl dads that fought to get a referend on the ballot. Now it's in federal court. But my gut tells me if that did get on the ballot, it would, it would prevail that just guys that were like, we don't want our teenage girls, our little girls of having to face guys and sports and similar things. So, hey, Victor, I'm kind of transged out here. Let's go to another old, another is the gift that keeps on giving. If you want to have commentary on podcasts and that's Tucker Carlson. So Tucker put out a 10 point plan. But for a new political party, he did this, he gathered some people in Maine where he has a place. I know, you know, know of it, speaking of Maine. But assembled were Carolyn Grace Maffa, Brian Glenn, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Tucker, Joe Kent, the recently, the National Security guy recently got them. His wife, I guess, Heather Kaiserkett and Thomas Massey. And they are there brainstorming for a new political party. There was a 10 point plan when I could read it here. I mean, there's some problems with it. I can just address that, I think, largely like, okay, there's sensible things here. But what do you make of this political, new political party? Well, these are supposedly learned people and they should ask themselves, when did a third party ever get elected and when did a third party do anything other than harm? The party most likely, most akin to it, for example, in 1912, you had the successor to Teddy Roosevelt, William Howard Taft, up for re-election. He was, and those times, what would be properly called a Republican conservative. And he was running against a complete, wild, progressive Woodrow Wilson. And what did Teddy Roosevelt do? We created a third party and ran in the election and insured that Woodrow Wilson would be present for eight years and destroyed Howard Taft. What did. We're still living with the consequences of that. What did Ross Perot? He said that he couldn't stand the Bush family and they were not really conservative and he was more liberal on abortion. And basically, he was much more akin to George H. W. Bush than he was to Bill Clinton and he ran in '92 and he got on 20% of the vote and he insured that George H. W. Bush would not be re-elected. And then he did it again in '96 and he got about 10%, and Bill Clinton never got 50%. As I remember, the second time in '96, he got like 49.8, but he insured, I don't know if people listening will think that was a great loss, but Bob Dole was the Republicans lost again. 2000, Al Gore would have won Florida because he only lost it by a few thousand votes. But Ralph Nader ran as a third party, green candidate and insured in some ways that George W. Bush would be in. So Tucker knows that, that they don't win anything for themselves, but the whole point of it is that he can get a third party going, they will hurt Donald Trump. And then you ask yourself, if you read his 10 point plan, who has been closer to enacting it, Donald Trump or the opposition, not even close? He's got a big thing about crime. Well, Donald Trump, you think that he's for no cash bail, you think he's for $950, a free shoplifting? Do you think that he's for defund the police? That he has the border. Do you think who's done more than any present in history to get a wall going, stop catch and release deportation, zero Tucker? And same thing, he says on, he even says we want to have a food policy like our, our FK, well, where would that come from? Did he just come down with angel wings from heaven? No, he was appointed by Donald Trump. No one else in the right mind would have ever appointed poppy Kennedy for anything that only would take a maverick like Donald Trump to do that. And so when I looked at those, eight of them were exactly what he's getting with Donald Trump. The other two foreign policy, forever wars, but he wants to pay collateral damage, reparations to collateral damage, Tucker does. So if you go into Fallujah and somebody's shooting you and you kills the guy next to you and there's somebody and they've taken over a house and you shoot back at him and the bullet Ricochets off and hits somebody in the house who may or may. may not be sympathetic, then I guess the United States government writes them a check. That's what Tucker wants. So that was crazy. Then you think, well, the agenda is mostly what they got. So they were trying to destroy Donald Trump or his successor. Try to destroy Donald Trump's last three years in office or they would try to destroy his successor, but who would that be? They say it's going to be JD Vance. He's leading in the polls. For purposes of argumentation, let's say it's not Marker, it will be it is JD. Who in the Republican Party is closer to Tucker than JD? So would Tucker, would all these people say, well, we only did this, but now that JD's here and my son worked for him and I know him and I like him, we're going to drop all this. After all, he said, Israel can't kill itself. Kill itself out of the kill off, you know, kill its way out of its problems. So we're going to vote for and is that is that the point? So it is totally coherent. So what are the motivations? What would make them do that? Would Tucker have done that five years ago when he was on busy nights, getting most nights between three and five million viewers, Tucker was anchoring the entire, making 20 million a year. I don't think so. Would Marjorie Taylor Green have done that when she was camping out at Marlago twice a month, every night, I doubt it, I doubt it. Would Joe Kent, and I want to apologize, I said kid in an earlier broadcast with Sammy, but it's Kent. But he, after, I think he ran for Oregon Congressman Jack twice and lost both with the, he came close and he had the endorsement of Donald Trump. Would he have ever been appointed as a Homeland Security National Advisor? No, no, he would never, he would have never been appointed. And was he going to go out? Yes. You can go on Thomas Massey. Would Thomas Massey ever have said that he is going to start a third party and say his third consecutive congressional term when he's getting all his adulations? No. So what prompted them to do that? Will Tucker who flew all over the campaign, year stops on Air Force One, who had Trump's private cell phone number, who went to Marlago, whose son was appointed by the vice president and part of the administration, he fell out. He called him up and he said, you know what? I don't think you should go to Iran, or before in 2025 in June, it'll be World War 3 if you go to Iran. So my point is he was cut off completely and Marjorie Taylor Greene, she started saying that, you know, Donald Trump, he's in the Epstein file, he didn't ever stop and take a deep breath and say, okay, Donald Trump gave me 85% of the agenda that I want. And Joe Biden did not release one file for four years and Trump is releasing a million and a half files, but I'm going to turn on him. But she did. It happened, silt she looked at the polls and said, I won't even be nominated in Georgia. And Thomas Massey, why is he doing this? Well, because he said, I'm Thomas Massey, I'm the guru of the whole ultra ultra mega, what Joe Biden calls ultra mega. I'm the guy that they all look to, I'm the pure mega guy, I can't be beaten and he was primary in Tennessee and how about Kent? He was saying, I can't make it as a congressperson, I want to be in politics. But I sure did. Thanks to Donald Trump, who approves every high, high appointment, I'm a Tulsi Gabbard, got me in here, Trump got me in here. And now I'm a national figure, thanks to him. But I don't like what he's doing and I'm objecting to it all the time and I feel like they're going to get rid of me and Tulsi is going to leave. And I may be back to failed congressional candidate. So they all have personal angst and the other saying they have in common, there's you know what it is. It's the Jews. It's the Jews. Yeah, absolutely. So the other thing was the Jew, he had to put in there that we don't have to pay a foreign country shouldn't be dictating. I didn't know that Israel was dictating the Maduro rescue. I didn't know it was dictating the Ukraine support for Zelinsky. I didn't know that Israel was supporting the terrorists with China, war with China, or I didn't know that Israel was behind the Panama Canal standoff. I do know the Spanish blame Israel for the Moroccans who invaded their African outpost, colonial outpost, but it's it's self-interested because of personal disappointment that their lives were somehow radically altered for the negative and they blamed Donald Trump. And therefore, they're going to do something that they know never works for a third party maybe to express their anger that Trump did not agree with them on 100% of the issues, but more like 80 to 90% and that the left at least until recently didn't agree with them with more than five. It's kind of like saying, well, I'm going to support the transit to transgender movement. I like that about the Democrat, I like the New Green Deal, I like DEI, I kind of like that open border, but it's not Trump. It's it's it's incoherent. It really is. San Ubris gets me a little bit too, Victor, that I call them up. I don't do this on Iran and he ignores me or disagrees with me and this is now kissing up to you a little bit, Victor, but I know I know from what he's posted publicly and and I have never called him one time. The president is a great admirer of yours who, you know, but it's right. I never would ever presume to think to do anything like that. Anybody who knows that situation knows that the last thing you do as a nobody is call the president of the United States to say, I think if he posts something about you or he calls you, you know, you show gratitude that he took that time for a nobody, but you don't think you don't take on this sense that you're this major influencer and the president of the United States, my God, of seven. Now that I got you, Don, let me tell you about it. Yeah, there's seven, hey, Don, there's seven billion people on the planet, but I am the most important, so that's why I'm telling you what to do on Iran. You can write that, you can do anything on a podcast, you can express your opinion, people are free to accept or reject it, but you don't think that you have the ear of the president. Many people do, but you don't, I naturally assume that, and when you do do that, and when you do go on Air Force One, and you do go to Marlago, and you do that intimacy gives you a false sense of self importance, I guarantee you, you're going to be sorely regrettable when you find out that Donald Trump probably gets 500 calls a day from the most powerful people in the world where their heads are state or Elon Musk or you name it. Yeah. I'm sorry to have anybody might have put you on hold and I think she said once he didn't call me back. Hello. All right, Victor, we're going to wrap up here, but since you touched on JT Vance and Marco Rubio, you have to, you discuss that with Sammy on the podcast the other day, and there were a ton of comments, there always are a ton of comments, but there's so many comments about Rubio V versus Vance, and I haven't, not read every single one of them, but I think of the hundreds I read, they are all about, I prefer Marco Rubio. I wish somebody could advise JT Vance, I mean Kimberly Strassel had an open comment about his supporters at Trashtor, but she was trying basically to suggest something in his interest. Kim said that if you're vice president of the United States, you got critical votes up on all these issues and you might be the tie breaking, but you can also influence people and give the administration's lobby people, these seven or eight senators, it can be apostates, but you're, you know, you're going to Hungary for Victor Orban or you're on Joe Rogan saying controversial things, or you're pushing a book that you wrote, you're distracting from what the vice president's value is, ex officio, and the reaction to that was fierce. She had to write a second column, did you see that? I did, you know, the car off, but I think the other day they had this pseudo burrito war, you know, and I know Mark these in a little bit. I know Mark too. Yeah. Yeah. - He's sad, I don't think he's sad. And if he was, and he kind of made fun of it. - Someone showed a picture of JD Vance from like, I don't know, his 10, 12 years ago, that he looked like a marshmallow man, almost. - Yeah, I mean, and you know, he's been very explicit about his religious conversion. And I think all that's wonderful, but I think what you just said about our comments suggests that people, right now at this moment, they just want people off social media. They don't want them commenting on burritos. They don't want them attacking people's appearance. All they want is demonstrable competence and expertise. So when they look at Rubio, they say to themselves, who went down to Panama and really handled that well? He did. Who with his portfolio in Latin America is doing well? They look at Maduro worked out well. They look that 70 to 85% of the countries in South America are flipping from left-wing anti-American to pro-US conservative governments. And when those leaders come to Washington, they go to see a Spanish-speaking hyper conservative, hyper patriotic hyper mega-Marco Rubio. And he's very discreet about it. And he doesn't, and then when he goes in front of Congress, he doesn't wave his hands and scream and yell, like some people do. He's just very commonly, commonly dissects the crazy questioner. So they look at all that and they are impressed. And the irony, and I feel bad for Jay, that was his forte. When he went in that debate against Tim Waltz, that was a brilliant dissection. He just calmly said, you're wrong. And then he looked at Tim Waltz's puppy dog face and he thought, you know what, this kind of pudgy guy and his tight little suit, who's a buffoon on stage and is a compulsive liar about Iraq and going to China. He, I have just beaten him on all the issues. I don't need to disgrace him and humiliate him. And then he was nice the last five minutes. He was the whole time, but he'd said, and Tim, you would agree with, you would agree with this. And I think both of us agree. He was trying to be, that was a good thing to do. He looked like magnanimous. And so he's got a very brilliant wife. So I just think that he doesn't need to do all this stuff. Well, let me, as we close out here, too related comments. And we thank everyone who leaves comments. And one of them is, both are along these lines. One is from Seagriffin 8547 who writes, Rubio has strong leadership skills. Countries will respect him. Rubio is an action man. He understands when to talk and when to take strategic action. JD Vance is just the skilled debater. That's what this person says. The other one is a little longer. From Liz Perez, 9963 who writes, I got out the vote for Trump in the Latino community. Not one Latino I've recently spoken to is willing to vote for Vance despite still supporting Trump. I've heard somewhat vague reasons from don't like him too. He seems racist too. He hates Jews from the more Protestant crowd. Vance will lose in a general election to whatever awful comedy the Dems put up. Only white people like him. White people only being willing to vote for you is not enough. Trump is not being wise. The one who would win against Democrats is Rubio. Not just because he's Latino. He's simply seen as more experienced and knowledgeable than Vance even by white moderates. Too many people distrust Vance. What a shame. We will lose to comedy Dems. I don't think that readers analysis was very incisive. It was very astute but I don't agree that I think the white vote will be 50-50. I don't know any white people. I know a lot of people. I would say that 100 people the last six months have called me or email me or text me that they're angry at JD Vance and they're going to vote for Rubio. And I'd say 90% of them are white. And the issues are A, that they feel that the animus that he shows Israel when he says they can't kill itself out of its problems or they don't have to destroy all of Beirut and all this. But he never really says when you have Hezbollah and they're shooting missiles into civilian centers and they're hiding among human shields, what do you do when they won't negotiate and they just keep doing it? Give me an alternate and he never gave them an alternate course of action. And then after October 7, I just think a lot of people are-- they hear settler colonialist apartheid, genocide. And they can think of all the places in the world that fit that to the tea but not Democratic Israel. And when they see that tag slung around the neck of Israel, they know why. And it's not because of the evidence or any proof. And when you compare October 7th, what they did and mutilated and medieval-- I shouldn't say that. That's a medieval scholar wrote me and said, Victor, please stop saying medieval. All right. You said people in the medieval-- Barbaric. Yes. It's just nothing wrong with calling them Barbaric. Well, the word Barbarals comes from Herodotus who said the Greeks say that people they can't understand say, Barbar, Barbar, Barbar, Barbar. Oh, OK. Let's just say people that cook babies and microwaves. Yeah, ours. Execute sailors, children, and front of their parents. Are rape women who are either dead or dying, or dismember people in front of their spouses? Anybody-- I mean, they thought up a lot of things that nobody in the right mind could even conceive. And then they bragged about it. And so I guess on that issue, I don't think-- I mean, there's a lot of people that are angry. And then the anti-Jewish stuff from Tom's Massie and Marjorie Taylor Greene and Tucker and that whole spectacle with Nick Fuentes and all that. And I think JD should have been come out in front and say, you know what? This party is one thing that separates us from the left is we are not tolerant of anti-Semitism. Just we're not going to tolerate it. And we have been traditional supporters of the only consensual constitutional government in the Middle East. And we're very lucky to have an ally like that. And that-- Thank you, man. So-- but he needs to say that at some point. I think that of train mail left the station. Hey, Victor, we're way over. But it was a lot of analysis here. And that's what people like, pictures analysis. And you got a lot of it in this episode. And I want to thank people who write me at my email. You don't get it. If you get civil thoughts, the free weekly email news that are all right, comes out every Friday, 14 recommended readings. At the end, you get my-- there's my email. You can write me nasty notes, whatever you want. But you go to civilthoughts.com and sign up. And it's, again, it's totally free. We're not selling anything. Victor's website, The Blader Perseus. 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