Victor Davis Hanson: How Universities Influence Elections

- We are getting people from failed states. They get free scholarships. The university indoctrinates them with how awful the United States is and then they dropped them to run for office. They level accusations about a 250 year republic. They're very affluent for the most part and they did very well here and they were given a boost over citizens who were not DEI. And yet they show no magnum entity. They show no thanks or gratitude. They wanna tear down the system. (upbeat music) - Hello and welcome to Victor Davis Hansen in his own words. This is our Saturday edition and we are going to be looking at some news first but Victor will be talking about the president's Tyler and Nixon so stay with us for those two biographies and we will be back after these messages. Hello, this is Victor Davis Hansen for the Daily Signal. I have a new book out on September 8th of this year and I think you're gonna enjoy it's called Counter Revolution. The fall and rise of Donald Trump and the MAGA movement. It starts right after January 6th and it details the lack of popularity of Donald Trump, the invective that he endured, the five civil and criminal trials, the effort to get him off the ballot, the raid on Marlago, the two impeachments earlier, one in which he was tried as a private citizen and yet he came back. How did he come back and why did he come back? I explain in the book how he defeated his primary opponents, how he was outspent, he had a hostile media and he defeated the Democratic machine and Camila Harris. It starts on January 6th. It ends pretty much now in May of 2026. What's the title about, Donald Trump is not a revolutionary, he's not a revisionist, he's a counter-revolutionary. This time around he is not addressing just the symptoms of the progressive project of the last 50 years. He's talking about the causes, not just an open border, but how to stop illegal immigration entirely, not just crime, but sending the National Garden to make sure cities are safe, not just an Iranian nuclear threat, but ending that threat that seven other presidents had identified, but heck did not act on. Not just addressing the transgender issue or the Green New Deal and all of those issues that are so dear to the Democratic Party, but ending them, defunding NPR and PBS. So it is a counter-revolution to unwind and to roll back the entire progressive project of the last 50 years. I think you're going to like it. It's pretty interesting. It chronicles the greatest political comeback in our recent political history. Thank you very much. I'm Victor Davis Hanson for the Daily Signal. (dramatic music) - Welcome back, Victor Davis Hanson in his own words. Victor is the Martin and Neil Anderson, Senior Fellow in Military History and Classics at the Hoover Institution and the Wayne and Mercer Busky Distinguished Fellow in History at Hills Hill College. Please come join him at his website, victranson.com. The name of the website is the blade of Perseus. You can find links to his written articles, his podcast, his short podcast that he does with the Daily Signal. And he has links to his books and he has a new one coming out right behind him, the counter-revolution, the fall and rise of Donald Trump and the mag of movement. And you can buy it. It's coming out on September 9th. Is that right, Victor? - It's 8th. - Out on September 8th. So please, you can pre-order and get his account of Donald Trump's last eight years. All right. - Last eight years. - Yeah, right, it starts from when he lost the election in 2024. - For why see what you're saying, yes. - Or sorry, last six years, 2024. - Yeah, I mean, it doesn't start in this first administration. So four years plus two is six. But maybe you were alluding to the fact that I talk about the two impeachments and earlier things from the first term, now and then. - All right, so Victor, let's do some news first. We've been seeing a lot about Lindsey Clancy, who strangled her three children and is now on trial for it and lots of commentary on it. And I just wanted to get your take on it. It's very disturbing to watch people argue that she had some sort of psychosis, et cetera. And those poor kids were strangled and I can't even imagine the scene and how they must have felt seeing the other ones die before them. One of them had to see the other one die before them. And so it's very disturbing. I hope they throw the book at her and give her as hard of a sentence as they can, but I don't know how you feel about that. Again, her defense attorneys are not doing her any service. They're sort of like Manjioni. I don't know what it is with the defense attorneys today. Their purpose is to make the defendant look sympathetic, but they give press conferences like Manjioni, they interrupt and her attorney was suggesting that it would be inhumane for a jury or the judge to the prosecutor to continue this because A, she tried to commit suicide and is paralyzed. And she said, "Well, each year, she's gonna miss her three children for the rest of her life." And there's nothing, there's no punishment that can exceed that. In fact, there is. Those children are not gonna be there. They didn't have a choice. And Dave facto, anybody who kills somebody outside of a war is something wrong with them, you know what I mean? Unless it's self-defense. So when they say, you know, she wasn't ever right, mine, who is of the right man? I mean, if somebody breaks into night and shoots me, that's a very odd thing to do, you know what I mean? It's not a normal thing. It doesn't mean that person's not responsible. So all you have to, I guess, Raeus and Latin is the word for defendant. Men's Rae, Rae, what's the status of the mind of the defendant? Did they know that what they did was illegal? Yes, I think she did. And that's about it, unless she's completely delusional and not attached to the current world. I'm sure her defense attorneys told her that. 'Cause she just stares off in space. And it is true, they over-medicated her. But I can tell you, when I have two, four and a half hour back-to-back operations and they gave me the anesthesia then the stuff to wake me up and then put me back to sleep again for the second one and all the other things. When I came back in my room, I have no memory whatsoever of what the surgeon told me about the second. And I don't really, to now remember the first two days even, but I didn't get angry and want to go kill somebody. You know what I mean? But I think I had about, I looked at, I had a dozen drugs in me, all sorts of antibiotics or any you name it. So what I'm getting at is people go through this every day, they get depressed, they do. But that doesn't justify killing somebody. And so I don't really care how she feels now. I really don't. I don't want to be heartless. I care about the children. And I lament the fact they're not on the earth and they got one shot to live in a corporate body and they're gone. And it wasn't that they got cancer. It wasn't that they got hit by a car. It wasn't that it wasn't even that an evil person broke in their house and killed them. It was their own mother. And to be really macabre about it, Joseph Gervals killed their five children. Mrs. Gervals did. And that was a horrific thing to do because she thought that they would be persecuted if they grew up with that name. But in fact, we know now that people that closely attached to their Nazi regime, their children were not persecuted. So, you know, and they were so small, they really had no cognizance of the Third Reich's crimes. But the point is they're making. She didn't struggle them. She dosed them with a narcotic and knocked them out and killed them. And then she killed herself. You're talking about Gervals. Not the Gervals, not Lindsey Carter. Wow, Gervals, the mother. This woman gave them one of the most painful. She killed them in one of the most painful processes possible by strangling them. And then she didn't kill herself, not that. So, if she's so, I don't know what to say about. I just think that the defense has been talking about everybody and now they have women protestors out there saying that people don't understand postpartum depression. I think they do understand postpartum depression because, That's kind of a slight on women. Oh, I had a child. Be careful about your wife. She may kill the child in you too or something. No, that doesn't happen. 99.999 times that doesn't happen. So don't try to normalize somebody's culpability. So I don't know how you explain these either in a religious contact that's purely satanic and evil or in a physiological or psychological context. But it doesn't matter because the children are dead. We're not even talking about them. Everybody knows her name. But nobody knows the children's name. So that's what I'm worried about. Yeah, and they are-- I hear them arguing or talking about how she wasn't getting help by the system. But in fact, she was getting all sorts of help from the system. And she-- I know. And she should have been responsible for telling each of those doctors what the other doctors were doing. I mean, how would they know otherwise if she didn't tell them? So she had a huge culpability. And it seems to me somebody who does that should just say to the judge, I am so guilty. Could you just throw the book at me? Because I deserve it. I deserve whatever there is out there. That would be the noble thing to do. And so this trial is really-- It's a therapeutic culture. And we're always supposed to side with the defendant versus the system. And there's so many pathologies at work here in this case. But the idea that you go out and protest because a woman who slaughtered three of her own children and you feel that she's not treated-- she's not treated sensitively enough by the judge or the prosecution to understand that this could be a natural way action to be overdosed. It's another thing, overdosed. Every patient, I know that we deify doctors. But after my surgery, I was in pretty bad shape after losing six liters of blood. And six transfusions and three liters of blood. And the doctors were-- the oncologists were really good. They said, we've taken this cancer out. But it's got a very dangerous mutation that's untreatable. So we would suggest that you try preemptive chemo and immunotherapy, even though they won't treat this mutation. But maybe there are studies. They said that maybe it'll give you a 5%. And I said, given the fact I have anemia and aphib and I can't walk across the room, chemo would kill me. And I'm not taking chemo. And they were very reasonable. They were really wonderful. She said, that's a completely legitimate decision on your part. And we're here to give you the pros-- and most doctors are like that. If you say, I don't want to do that, they may get upset. They may say, go get a second opinion. But they're not going to force you to do that. And she has some responsibility as a patient to say, I think I'm getting over medicated. But that still doesn't-- people who are over-medicated and people who have recently delivered a child don't under any circumstances kill three, not one, not two, three children. Yeah. So it's a grand situation. So other people doing strange things or criminal things that are stunning. Penn State, we just had the arrest of a ring of drugs, mostly selling cocaine. So that's coming up from Colombia, which means they were tied into some sort of drug ring. Yeah, you can see how that worked. Because these campuses, they have about three or four conditions that are beneficial for a drug dealer. Number one, you've got a lot of young people in one place. And young people are more apt to take drugs. Two, many of them have never been away from home. And now they're without parental control or advice. So they're experimenting. Three, the campus police don't really investigate students because we have all these students' rights group. They don't go into the dorms and search rooms. And the local police usually are told not to go on to campuses. And so you have a wolf and a bunch of sheep there. What's different about this is the local drug dealer that everybody knows, or they smell, sell, hashish, a marijuana, or something. This was an organized ring. And they had some pretty powerful drugs. But they operated in that type of environment. I think I've said to the audience the first thing I came from this farm with my father, and he-- I had a brother at one college at UC Santa Cruz. There was cluster colleges, Stevenson College. And my dad said, I'll take you over to the other one. So we went over to Cal. And he said, you're in the Morrison dorm. We looked a little map. We go in second floor. I can still remember the number, 208. And we walked down. And he looked at the doors. And first thing, he put his hand on a poster. And he almost fell over because somebody-- they had all part aid and kicked in the sheetwalk and then hit it with boasters. So he hit the studs. And he said, that's pretty shoddy work here. He said, no, I think these people are party animals. Well, what are you doing here, then? And then we went down and here, three doors down was Hasheesh, $350, marijuana, $12, a lid, LSD tab, psilocybin tabs, cocaine, right on the door. And he said, that's illegal. And I said, yeah, I know it is. And he said, well, where are the police? And I said, I think we're in a sanctuary zone. And then, as I said, he went into the shower and two people were engaged in coitus in the shower. Or at least it looked like that to him. And I said, well, at least they're male and female. And he said, I'm not sure about that. But anyway, the point is that these universities think they're above the wall. And the students that are in those, what's so weird about all of this is, the university actually is in weird ways intrusive. If those drug dealers had walked into a safe space or walked into-- let's say there's a theme house. The theme house is a euphemism for a segregated dorm by race. Let's say they had gone into the Africana house. That's every campus have those. And they just walked in. And they said, sorry. You can't walk in our Africana house. You're not African American. He said, well, I think this is racist. And I'd like to get a room here if I can. They would call that guy up. And the university would use all of its powers of investigation. Or if some young girl went to the sexual harassment officer and said, we were at a party. And everybody was drunk. And I can't remember much. But I did wake up in this guy's room. And then I called him and he was really rude. So I don't think this was consensual. They would call that guy in. And he would have no first amendment rights. He wouldn't have right across examination. He wouldn't have the right. And they would say, look, did you do the-- and they would probably, as they do all the time. Remember the case of Joe Long's Dale at Stanford? It was similar to that. And he's a wonderful guy. And it was just a miscarriage of justice. But what I'm getting is they won't go after a drug ring right under their nose. That's really hurting people. And your point also is that the universities find themselves beyond the law, outside the law. There are a lot of jurisdictions in theory. They're part of the county sheriff and the city police, usually, that have a right to go in there. But usually we had a big fight in 1971 when I arrived because they said they didn't want black and white patrol cars. So as I remember, they were powder blue. And then they said they didn't want the campus police wearing police uniform. So for the first couple of years, I was there. They wore blue sport coats. And then they said, we have to have gear and all this. And so that stopped. And then it was-- you know what I remember about living in the dorm? They only did it one year. Was it was a complete lord of the fly's experience? It was what you do with a bunch of upper middle class kids, mostly from LA, San Francisco Bay Area, and then give them no supervision. And how do they treat each other? And they revert to pre-civilizational. They don't take showers. They fornicate openly in parties. They-- it's like a satiricon banquet without civilization. And I think that we have to treat college kids because they have shown no propensity to be adults. They were helicopter parented. And they weren't free range. I can tell you that. They weren't self-reliant, this new generation. So you should treat them as the children they are and say, you know what, if you take drugs or you sell them and they're illegal, we're going to expel you immediately. And we're going to have spot checks in your room every once world we have. You know and see how that how they feel up there if they're going to want a big drug ring right under the No, I can't believe the universe who didn't know about the ring leader of this his father covered up for him and tried to hide Some of his drugs and money and his safe at home speaking of a helicopter parent of a different sort, I suppose Yeah, that would if you're if you're son if you read in the paper that There's a big drug ring and you've discovered your son's drugs What do you do as a parent you say I'm gonna flush him down the toilet, but I'm flushing down evidence See or do you turn your son in it's a hard call, but it's not a hard call if he hurt people It's not a card call if he broke the law you're not gonna I don't expect a parent to But I do expect a parent maybe to stand by just tell us Son if you were breaking the law, we're not gonna destroy evidence that is subpoenaed or will but I will you know I will stand by you and I'll go to court with you, but we're not gonna break the law. 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So they did a whole airport You know showdown with Eric swallwell took him in took all these electronics away. I think Giuliani started that and that was called a perp walk perpetrator walk Look what's happening now is the FBI is you can interpret it two ways. I Interpret is they're finally Not allowing people who broke the law to be exempt the left would say that they are Paying back their enemies But if the left were correct then what did their enemies when you say payback? What did they do to deserve payback? Well, they went after they select they use the FBI to go after anti-abortion people to go into school board meetings et cetera, et cetera to go into January 6 Informants et cetera, et cetera. So Eric swallwell was on the House Intelligence Committee and he had He denied under oath I think to an FBI investigation that he did not have or maybe we didn't know that and now it's come out But at least publicly he denied that he was ever had coronal relations with fangfang fangfang was a bay area Gatfly so she was supposedly a former student Chinese National student in the bay area touched herself to the consulate and her job was to monitor local political If you want to call him critical of China fangfang call you up if you were having a fundraiser for a congresswoman she showed up often with money and enticements and Her job was to seduce men who were in powerful positions then to develop a relationship with them and either to extract Information about them or to blackmail them and he was married and so she had this liaison with him and he denied it and of course Apparently cash betel and they've come in and they've seen the Inorogatories with swallwell and under oath. He must have sometime admitted that he did Our face perjury and so they're looking at that and probably saying why did why did no one ever prosecute that? And then they're saying well They went after Peter Navarro and he all his crime was he didn't want to go to a weaponized Sabina by the congress and they put leg irons on kind of a dramatic description of you know Hancock foot cuffs, but they did it right in public wasn't it at an airport as well? I think it was they it was dollars banning in a public fashion At least they tried to and so they just saw him and they did it now the left's all upset Oh, you're going after but the left's not all bad upset because He was an all albatross around their neck and They had worshipped him and he was probably going to be the next governor of California He was ahead of the Sarah way ahead in the polls and Kathy Katie Porter was a joke. There were no other democratic viable candidates and The Democrats looked at this and they said A he has a lot of exposure with women and he may have had some harassment and maybe even unwanted forced coercive Relationships and Feng and we better get it out now because we don't The right is probably waiting till he's the official nominee in California They're going to do an October surprise on us and get Hilton in there So we're going to Decapitate our own candidate and leak it and that's what they did So the FBI just said well if they don't want him we'll take him and so now the left is in a dilemma They're saying this is so unfair, but yeah, it's not really unfair You get rid of him. We won't be back and he was an embarrassment to us and he gets punished for his sexual harassment and his Randy Ways and his lying and cheating We're not going to waste any capital on him. He's expendable cutting loose. Yeah, exactly well related to this I was wondering if you any thoughts the Department of War as our Department of Defense is now called is auditing Research institutions academic institutions for security and I think that that sounds kind of normal It sounds like they need research done, but they want to be sure these institutions are When I first got to Hoover our wonderful director John Racian said to me we have an exchange program they've started and he didn't do it. They said one of our fellows is Sponsored we have four scholars from China. We hadn't had that before. This was 2003 or four I was kind of a young my first Second year there you said there's some of bothers me about a victor This is before that big everybody saw what China was doing. Would you go into the senior commons and talk to them and give me your impression So I sat down with these four guys And they said you're a military historian. I won't imitate their voice because people would call me racist But they could barely speak English. I said yes Did you talk about the criminal Japanese government and how they I said I've been very critical my father for well good for you But you don't you you have to understand that Japan is a criminal military government has no business here Sony. I just listen to this This and I said well, you know your government mouse killed 70. No, it wasn't cliche cliche cliche. Just like this guy did the other day on Pierce Morgan and I came up and he said well, what'd you think about? I said I think they're with all due respect They're calling me operatives and he said you can't repeat that. I said I don't trust them one bit They despise the United States. They despise our allies and here they are right here And I would like to think that I was kind of precedent because a few years later a criminal Excuse me a major in the people's liberation army was given a Stanford University billet is a bill Visiting professor of neuropsychiatry psychology. And then we have the Confucius Institutes and that was as a front. And then we had Chinese students who wanted to stay in the United States, and they gave a series of interviews to the Stanford Review that basically they were monitored all the time by Chinese, I don't know what you would call it, Chinese nationals in the United States monitoring students to get information. In other words, they were calling up and said, "Is there any chance you can take this class?" So when you have 300,000 from a corrupt Chinese communist government here, 300,000 students, what do you expect, especially in a left-wing environment? I mean, when you have Hassan Pichard wearing Mao's a Mao jacket, who killed 70 million people. That was a finely tailored Mao jacket, I have to say, so I don't know, it is tailored. I was just, you know, he has a poor sports car, he bought a West Hollywood $2.3 million house, his parents are Turkish multi-millionaires, and then you think that, "Well, Zora and Mardami is a multi-millionaire's parents, they're academics, they were endowed professor, filmmaker." He grew up as an only child in the 1% Uganda. Okay, well, then that's an exception, Victor. Well, no, well, Conna now is flirting with social. His father-in-law's were 200 million. His wife drives a Range Rover. Well, that's a little bit exaggerated, that's just one or two. No, we now find that, what was his name, Jim, I'll remember his name, but he's the co-chair of the DSA in Brooklyn, New York. And we find out he has a $1.5 million pad that his parents bought him. They came from Peru, they're multi-millionaires, they have a business they started, they are selling a $3.5 million home because they have their other $5 million home, and he's a socialist who wants to ban private property. And he went to Yale and major in art history. Then he said he was a union worker and electrician, but they never really showed up on the job. That's their new Johnny on the spot this week. And then you have Ilyana Omar, $30 million, she says she's worth. So, you know, I think I'm going to write an article. I mentioned it, but there is a phenomenon now that people are coming from what we used to call derisively. Not derisively, it was just the non-communist and not the communist world, but people in between like India and, but the third world, but it became associate, they used the word fourth world for the really destitute failed states. But the third world was places in Asia, Africa, and Latin America that didn't have the occurrences in the capital of the West. But we are getting people from failed states, Ilyana Omar from Somalia, Rashid Talib from the West Bank, this curals person from Ethiopia, I think, Zoran Mandami from Uganda, this fellow who's from Peru, AOC, Puerto Rico, first or second generation. And they all come here and they enjoy and Hassan Piker from Turkey and his parents came. And they're either born here or they're parents, either they're parents or they're born elsewhere and they're born here or they're born elsewhere, but they're first or second generation immigrants. But they have immediate complaints and then there's another common denominator with all of them. They are DEI people, so this guy went to Yale and they get free scholarships like Ilyana Omar did or they bill themselves when they run to office as the enemy of white privilege as you saw Shoalye and the other one curals describe themselves or they're going to go after richer whiter neighborhoods like Mandami said. So they come here and then they start leveling accusations, we need reparations, one of them, Denver woman said. They level accusations about a 250 year republic and they're very affluent for the most part and they did very well here and they were given a boost over citizens who were not DEI and yet they show no magnuminity, they show no things or gratitude, they want to tear down the system. This guy is living in Brooklyn and his parents bought him this pad and he probably got a scholarship as being DEI to Yale and what does he do? He starts talking about tearing the system down and taking over corporations and it's really and I'm not saying that all of them are like that but the left has this ability to say to somebody as soon as you come here, we really want to hang out with you because you're wealthy or you're upper middle class and you you're going to Yale or we're going to get you in a book. They don't want to hang out with somebody who's impoverished from Haiti, you know what I mean? Or Somalia, they want this type and then they indoctrinate them, the university does with how awful the United States is and then they dropped him to run for office or to run foundations or to be because and then they think put their finger in the air and they said all the all the benefitia are with DEI in the left. The right, what we don't want to be a right, it's up by your bootstraps, being an entrepreneur, make something out of yourself, work hard, start a business, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, the right is for somebody like Elon who is completely innovative. He came here too, right? All of those people. Yeah. And their builders and their creators and the left just. It's a lot on your own, you start to see that the government's not your friend, regulations, everything, it's just taxes. Yeah. Well, Victor, let's, I just was curious on one thing before we go to a break and then turn to the presidents. If you had any thoughts, Mexico seems to be complaining that we are sending the criminals that have come here illegally from Mexico, we're sending them to third countries rather than back to Mexico and they're angry at it for us. Yeah, they're angry at us and no one cares that they're angry at us because every time we pick up one of these criminals from Mexico, we find out, oh, in 2018 he came across, oh, in 2014 he came across, oh, in 2010. So we send them back and then Mexico doesn't do anything, doesn't track them and sends them forward. It's like Obedor said, isn't it beautiful? We sent 40 million people. So we're saying, you know, it's going to be a little harder. Try, you know, you come up here and you're rape and kill and steal. Go over to Uganda and do it or go over to Ethiopia and do it or do it in Nigeria and see how that works for you because they have a different penal system than we do. And Mexico's, oh, this is so terrible. Mexico has over 50 consulates here and it's only for one purpose to facilitate illegal immigration. When you look at Mexico, I don't think they understand what, if you look at polls, Mexico is one of our more unpopular countries here and people are sick of it because they're nothing to do with race or anything but it's due to about four things. People come over here illegally over the last few years. They get housing, education, food, medical support and it's a lot, $60,000, $70,000 packages. That frees out wages in cash that they're off the books and they send $65 billion dollars to Mexico that drains and even more now to India. So that goes out of the economy. Number one, and we don't tax it. Now we have a 1% tax. That's it. But it's going to go up. So they're mad about that. Then we had the North America free trade association. Oh, wow. It's really good. And guess what? They have a $200 billion surplus by having China get around our tariffs by assembling Chinese products and then dumping them here. And we're going to address that and they're angry. And then they have probably a 30 billion influx from the cartels. They'd cartels get Chinese product fentanyl, raw product. The Chinese love it because it kills us. And then they market it but they don't have little pills but an F on it. Fentanyl. No, they make it look like out of town or volume or methamphetamine. So young kids are part of here. Have a this and it's fentanyl. And they tried, I mean, they don't want to kill their addict but they want to give a buzz. So whatever it is, the person says, well, whatever that will they can hardly talk. And they kill people because they're inexact. And they don't care, they kill 70,000, 80,000 people a year here, until recently at least. And they run the Mexican government and every Mexican government. And we're going to crack down on the card. You can't crack down on them because they're deeply embedded within the every aspect. The hotel industry, entertainment, the government, the media, politics, everything. And so it's a lose, lose, lose situation for us. And here they're right next to us. And they're booming out of remittances and cartel money and manipulating the free trade spirit of the old free trade agreements. And if we say anything, it's Yankee, oh Yankee Imperialist. And so everybody's, there's, also they're losing a lot of Mexican American support because you talk to people in this area and I've talked to so many. And the stories are like this. Well, I was born in Mexico, but my dad asked me to go down and look at our family home in Wahaka. So I drove down there and I was stopped three times by the police. And they said by my accent, they could tell that I wasn't a Mexican, speaking Spanish. But they hit me for $100, $150, $300. And I got to my house and there's people were in it. These squatters. So we asked them and then all of a sudden a guy in a cartel came out of the crossroads that leave him alone. So we lost our home. I've heard that about three or four times. And I've heard young people from college who are Mexican American go down there and get intentionally stopped because the Mexican police or the Mexican authorities like to target more Mexicans, nationals that are here in the United States and are probably U.S. citizens. And they go down on winter break or spring break and they want to see their country or their parents came from or visit their grandparents. And then the Mexican authorities really target them. And so I just don't think or North American neighbors or like they were once. They're hostile now. They're hostile because we finally said no. They all love this when we said, you know what, 65, that's no problem. I'm Joe Biden's and we'll send 70, we'll subsidize all these people, free up some cash, help you out a little bit. Oh, you're going to have $10,000, come and go, ah, you can have 12. We don't care. Oh, trade deficit, oh, who cares. That's Milton Friedman stuff, free market, nobody cares. And then, you know, cartels, you can't do anything with cartels. Then same thing with Canada. Oh, you wealthed on your 2% and you're under our nuclear umbrella and so you never paid your measly 2% GDP on defense. Can't you do that? No. Oh, you can't. Oh, you have a $50 billion surplus because you're pretty much tariff, putting tariffs on our agricultural products in a way that we're not doing with you with timber and oil and everything. And then when you start to say, you know, the board, a lot of people are coming across the northern border because you don't patrol it. And if you want it open, we're not going to be able to stop this stuff unless we patrol it. And that might mean we have to do what we did in this. So, the point is you always have to play the bad guy to get back to the normality, the medium. And then they all say, oh, you're an Yankee imperialist or you're still trying to throw your weight around and can I get a visa, you know what I mean? Yeah. All right, Victor, let's go ahead and take a break and then come back and we'll hear a little bit about our president's Tyler and Nixon. Stay with us and we'll be right back. Every state is home to significant historic sites that tell the American story, but not every site is telling that story honestly and fairly. That's why the Heritage Foundation created the Heritage Guide to Historic Sites. 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Although I don't sure he should be. He's infamous. He's actually enjoying a Renaissance right now among young people. John Tyler was our 10th president. It was an accidental president. He was the first president who was elevated to the presidency as vice president doesn't really say in the constitution that the vice president shall become the president said he can the vice president can fulfill the duties when the president is incapacitated. So he's kind of famous that when William Henry Harrison died after 31 days in office. He didn't just start doing it. He said I want to be sworn in as the president and that wasn't in the constitution but that inaugurated that and later amendments reified that. So he was this Virginia slave owner and he was in the Democratic Party was originally a Jacksonian in 1841 to 1845 so we're getting very, very close. He's going to be followed by poke and he followed Van Buren and it wasn't very popular. And we're getting closer and closer to the big 1861 divide. He did nothing to slow that down. He said he abhored slavery but he never slowed his 40 or 50 slaves he had. He's famous for, he had the most children of anybody, I think he had 15 children, 15. He was married twice, eight children the first time, seven, the second. Did not know that. And he was great. He was a hot shot young guy in the Jacksonian period and he was a pillar or a primary guy in the Democratic Party and he arose with a John Calhoun idea of state's rights. And Jackson had been a big critic of the Quincy, but the Adams family elite and the federal government, the federalist. But once the South Carolinians said they were not going to pay tariffs in 1832, I think Jackson became a tough federalist. And same thing with the Trail of Tears and he just went in and he did what he had to do. He thought and he really empowered the presidency. And that Tyler was on the other Calhoun side and broke with him. But when you look at over the four years, it's really hard to see anything that he did. He had a treaty with China. He tried to finesse the Democratic Party. He didn't split with the Democrats in the North that were opposed to slavery. And he said, on the one hand, I'm opposed to slavery. On the other hand, we have all these slave owners in my native state and we'll have a civil war if we outlaw it. So let's just pass it on and then the next president will be Polk. He was much better. But when you look at presidents that are raided, I mean, there's at the very bottom and these are left wing historians, everybody should remember that. People, when you see presidential rankings, I think Obama is like eight or something. They're all left wing. The next Lincoln memory is Springfield Illinois train ride from Chicago or whatever it was as he was the young Mr. Lincoln, saving us from ourselves. But any case, I think he's raided like 39th or 40th along there with James Buchanan, Millard Fillmore. And if they put Nixon in, that's very unfair or he was a good president. He just made a couple of mistakes. He must his hair up, so to speak, as they say in Dr. Strangel. Yeah, but nothing he didn't do even half as bad as some of the stuff we've seen recently. I mean, what he did was, essentially, he had a bunch of zealots and an XCIA officer thought that the Democrats had, Larry O'Brien was crazy or he was the head of the DNC and they wanted to get stuff on him, so they broke in and then they contained it. And then they got arrested and they wanted money, so then they went into The lower rings of the White House, Howard Dean, was the presidential council. He finally heard about it. And then he came and told Nixon, and Nixon said, "Basically, is it what in the blank? Are you kidding me? We got an election." So they got through the election of '72. The second largest popular vote landslide in history was Richard Nixon's 1972 thrashing of George McGovern. Only Lyndon Johnson, playing on the sympathy of the Kennedy assassination, had beaten very goldwater like that. It was just incredible. So here he was at the top of the world, and he was juggling all of these key balls. First of all, he had Vietnamization, and he went into Vietnam, and he was given a mess in 1969, and he had drawn down from about 500,000 troops to almost none. And he was negotiating with them, and he knew that when we were leaving, they would take advantage of them. But we had first-generation laser-guided bombs. So he started bombing the North, not like Operation Rolling Thunder, but Operation Linebacker, and they started targeting key personnel of the Communist in North Vietnam, generals, agents, et cetera, and that made him profound approach. So he had a peace deal, and he thought he could get out, and he did get out. So there was a viable selfie, that was the whole point. Of course, after Watergate, they sold the Vietnamese out, and they wouldn't give them their support, so they got it. And then at the same time, he was trying to triangulate with Kissinger, his secretary of state, and his national security, in one office. First person to do that, Marco will be doing it now. And Kissinger said, "Well, you'll have to triangulate, triangulate." And they said, "Well, wait a minute. They're both communists, they're both bad, but we can play off one against the other." So we said, "No, China, under Nixon, he went to China, he saw a decrepit old mile. He didn't hold. " He was the arch-anti-communist during the McCarthy period, and he was Ix-Fice President for eight years. I treated him really badly, too, when that famous thing, when they said, "Well, when Nixon ran for President in 1960, when he lost the JFK, can you say something in a phrase of your former vice-president, now candidates," he said, "Give me a weaker, something like that. Give me a few days to think about it." So I could be very cruel to people for all of his, he was a good president, too, but. And so he was solving the Vietnam, it was solved by the time of Watergate. He had really started the detente process by being really tough. He saved Israel in the Omn Kippur War of '73, was under enormous pressure. Kissinger was sort of working on getting Anwar Sadat to flip from the Russians and have a new peace deal if he got the Sinai back, but Kissinger was kind of tinkering around, like, "Let's not give them too many phantom jets and try to help tit for tat," and Nixon said, "Get those transports and you put anything on it and you get over there and save the Jews." That's very ironic because when he had his tapes come out, he just used derogatory language about everything. He didn't really mean it, though. The Jews, they're smart people, he got to be careful, or anything, stuff like that. And that hurt him. But my point is, if you look at what he did about the Vietnam War, and then the left started liking him, he created the EPA. He created the Endangered Species List. He created the toxic waste list all about. He was really good on the environment. The problem with him was, I think he was probably the most naturally bright president we've ever had. He was smart. He was the best poker player in a large group in the Navy. I know my maternal grandfather was a Democrat. He got my parents really angry. They said, "You can't vote for Dick Nixon." He said, "Wow. He was the best poker player in the Navy. He five cards stud. You couldn't beat the man and be good to have him as president." He's sharp, Pauline, he's sharp. So I remember that. And a couple of other things we forget now, 1960, you can make an argument. I know the left says, "Well, Victor, you're just a conspiracy theorist." But you could make the argument that Richard Nixon lost that election by 0.2 percent. In Cook County and Illinois, Chicago, there were some questionable ballots, and there were some questionable ballots in Texas. He had demanded a recount and there might have been, the Democrats might have lost Illinois and lost the electoral college. And he was very good about that. He said, "A losing candidate does not question, or if we do that, or a reputation worldwide." He always thought of things in terms of foreign policy. So when all of these things were going on, and he thought that he got us off the gold standard for good or evil, but he was working on all of these things to solve the end of Cold War. And he might have done it. And then when it came to John Dean, he was looking at the papers every day. Woodward and Bernstein, Nixon's going to be guilty. We're going to finally get Nixon tricky dick. They hated him. And so he dug down. And so he said basically, "Well, what do they want? They got caught. So take care of them." Meaning, when they get out, give them money. And that looked really bad because they denied he did. He said, "Didn't know," and Dean turned state's evidence. Dean was a sneaky blank blank. I mean, I remember he remodeled as, he took money and borrowed it out of the White House to remodel his patio or something like that. But in any case, once the Watergate started, today, when you look at today, I mean, there was deep throw. That was just a disaffected Mark Felle FBI agent. I mean, he just wanted to be FBI director and was going to route everybody out. So when you look at, I mean, Barack Obama in the Oval Office had Brennan, Clapper, and Komi. And he knew that steel dossier was fake. And he was basically saying, "Go back and give me assessments that show me that Donald Trump is a Russian collusion," when they was no evidence. We know that. We know that he spied on the AP reporters. We know that. We know that Obama spied on James Rosen. Spied on his grandmother's text messages. We know that Obama, they got mad for the secret bombing of Cambodia. Well, it wasn't secret with Barack Obama. He detailed 500 assassination drone missions on the Pakistani border and killed two citizens. Maybe they deserved it. Maybe not. And he bombed Libya. And they said, "It's an illegal war." Well, what was Libya for seven months of bombing with no congressional authority? So I could go on and you saw Clinton, what Clinton did. So given how a study was and what a great president was in foreign policy and why he had really silenced the left, they wanted to get rid of them and they got rid of them. He resigned in the summer of '73. They knew that Jerry Ford was kind of a nice guy, but not really sharp, and that they could manipulate him. And the country was angry because they played it every day. I was at a packing house in the summer. And it was on the news, they broadcast the news every single day and the more they got. And then he had the Saturday night massacre where he said, "You fire them." And they fired the Attorney General, Elliot Richardson, who was the darling of the left. And what it all came down to was, he was very bright. He came from Whittier, California. He had not very much money. He worked like a dog. His parents had a little store. His mother was wonderful. Waged him. He went to Whittier College. He was the best student. They had just opened the Duke law school. He went there. He was just brilliant. He got into the Navy Reserve. He was sharp. He went to work for the government and he was a lawyer and then he came back to California and he ran. He beat Helen Gagan Douglas, tough campaign. And he was a tough anti-communist. He was very careful to keep his distance from Roy Cohn and Joseph McCarthy. But he was a very tough anti-communist. And there were communists in there. There was. Here was a communist. And he was accepted at Harvard, and he couldn't have the money. I mean, they gave him a scholarship, but he didn't go there because it was family. And he was very -- he married -- he had -- he asked six or seven times. She was very attractive. He looked at those pictures, and she was long-suffering, and she finally married him. He had two beautiful daughters, one of them married the grandson of Ike, who's -- and he's a wonderful guy, I've been on his radio show. He's still doing it. But the whole point I'm making is they were so cruel to him because he had those thick eyebrows, and he was kind of oddly built, and he was hunched over, and he always wore a tie, even by himself in his own house. I talked to some people once at a very casual club, and I said, "Did Nick's never come here?" Yeah, he did. Well, what'd you tell him to wear? He said, "Just wear a polo shirt and jeans." And they said he came in a black suit and a black tie, and it was very awkward. But the point I'm making is that he had an inferior already complex. He was very bright, but he didn't have the credentials of less bright people. The Kennedys he was obsessed with. They all got into Harvard, they're all good looking, and he was kind of -- all the media was on their side, so when Teddy Kennedy killed Mary Joel Koepeknik, they just hid that, the media did. And so that would just eat at him. And finally, they got him, and he resigned. He wasn't going to be in peace. He was pardoned by Ford. That destroyed Ford's chances to beat Carter. And the next -- I think he lived about almost 20 years. He died when he was 81 of A-Fib plots in his brain. But the point I'm making is he didn't give up. He wrote like eight books, they're really good books. He had that word that -- a pitilist, helpless giant -- pitiful, helpless giant. That was us America. And then he was -- everybody came. It was very funny. All the people at Trash Gym, they secretly called him on. Clinton called him all the time for advice. They all did. So he was a tragic figure because he was a conservative, and he let the left get to him. And it drove him crazy because they were so mean-spirited, and they used class, and they made fun of his family, they made fun of his Quaker, they made fun of Whittier College, they made fun of all of this. In a way, they don't -- they can't even do today. Nobody cares about that stuff anymore. Yeah. I get the feeling you're trying to explain the enemy -- didn't you have an enemy's list? I mean, I thought that was one of the things that he and Hillary Clinton shared at all. But Hillary Clinton had an enemy. I mean, he had an enemy list the same as other people. I mean, they had Obama affiliates made -- what was that journal list? I was on journal list of common enemies, and they were doing it right under the nose of the Obama administration. These were -- and now when you read Falchee, it was writing the script for ABC News Accounts, you know what I mean? So, they all had the media -- Nixon -- they -- the media hated Nixon, and the Ivy League hated him, and everybody and the Democrats hated him, and he was a tough guy. He was very, very smart, and he was very well-spoken, but he -- you know, when he ran for governor, he lost in '60, then he ran against Pat Brown, and was not a good time to run because it was the Kennedy era, Kamala, and Pat Brown was a liberal -- California wasn't ruined then. It was on the ascendance, and he ran, and they called him a carpet bagger because he hadn't been in California for eight or nine years, and then he lost -- he lost only by about four or five points, but it was shocking Nixon landslide defeat, career over with. Nixon crawls back to California and slapped around. It was horrible, and then he gave that -- my parents, my dad goes, "Look at that press call. I feel sorry for that guy, and I'm going to look at my dad," and I'm like, "What?" It's Dick Nixon, and he said, "I just want to say that you're not going to have Dick Nixon to kick around anymore, because this is my last press conference," and he walked out, and then he sharpened his knife, and he sat down, "You know what, I'm going to get those blank ," and so the next two years he barred stormed the country, campaigning for Republicans in 1966 midterms, and then they just -- everybody warned him in '68. He followed tough campaign against the Democrat. Humphrey was burdened. I have a plan to get us out of Vietnam. What is it, Mr. Nixon? I'm not going to tell you, or it wouldn't be a secret plan, would it? It was to turn the Chinese, you know, it worked sort of, so I think he's going to go down as a person who was far more important president than we think. Yeah. Well, Victor, we're going to come back and talk a little bit about Fauci, former Fauci aid, and then the dilemma for Hawking Jeffries and Chuck Schumer with their party. Play with this, and we'll be right back. We hold these truths to be self-evident, but all men are created equal. But they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights. But among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. But to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men. Deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these inns, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it. 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Dr. David Morins has been in the news this week, and he has pled guilty to one charge, and I think they gave him a break on three other charges. But his charges were conspiracy to destroy public records, destroying emails and obstructing information requests on the Freedom of Information Act, you know. Well, if I was a leaptist or a never-trumper like David from our Bill Crystal or any of those guys, I'd say the walls are closing in, or they used to say that all the time about Trump Mueller, their walls are closing in. No, they weren't, but they are on Fauci. I don't think anybody believes that someone with that, what was the second or third in the National Institute of Allergy and Effect, was going around sanitizing the record and refusing public legitimate public demands for copies of documents without Fauci knowing about it, especially when Fauci, I don't know how, didn't RFK, RFK can be really funny sometimes, in an off-handed way. He said, "Yeah, we found Fauci and he just, yeah, check Mustafa, you know, like, he hid them in every file." Well, he wasn't ever upset about it, he was just sort of saying, "Thought he outsmarted us, he almost did." I mean, he, I was really good when he said that. So he was hiding his little, kind of like John Bolton, he was writing his diary on government time, and then I guess he thought when he was out, he was going to get all the files and write a best selling $20 million Obama-like memoir about how he was the deity, and then he was, his emails, now his phone, and so anyway, he has three things he did. It's pretty clear that he knew when they outlawed gain of function research in 2017, you shouldn't do that. It's against the law. But maybe he thought the Pentagon should know. Maybe he thought we should know what was going on, so he knew the French had built this big level four biology lab, and a lot of former Chinese nationals who had studied in the United States in Europe that he knew and his friends knew them were working at this lab. under the direction of the People's Liberation Army at one point, probably all the times. So he was funneling access. He took his friend Peter Dasek and allowed him to use monies that Peter had gotten, I think, from the National and channel it over there, not a lot, 600,000. But I think the more important thing is if you were a virologist and you wanted to communicate on email or you wanted to visit the lab, or you wanted someone to send you files, there was communication, and he okayed that. And then when it found, when we, so that was the first thing he shouldn't have done. The second thing is when that story broke about the lab, he used his influence both with the Trump administration as the advisor and was having $50 billion at his disposal to dull out within IH. To punish enemies and help friends at total lie that it was from a bat or a pangolin, and the email correspondence shows that. Number three, it's pretty clear from his correspondence that he knew that the experimental mRNA vaccination, which is really a genetic engineering spike protein process, not a traditional, was not necessary for young men or women under the age of 18. That the virus for some reason, they didn't know at that time, did not manifest itself in a dangerous fashion, and 99% of teenagers and younger. But he did know that there were already reports that young men were having cardiovascular problems from the swelling and inflammation from that vaccine, and he didn't, he didn't warn people. He also knew that women, and they're, one of their try-masters, I don't know if it was the first or third, but we're having an inordinate amount of miscarriages, not a lot, but an inordinate. And he knew that that was related perhaps. He knew there were things and he did not tell us. He kept saying the very opposite. You get this vaccination's not just for you, you get vaccinated, you can't infect anyone, and they can't infect you, and we get everybody infected, and we will not, will kill the virus. Well, the fact of the matter is the virus only died when people got infected, and they got natural immunity. And natural immunity was, as everybody said, in many cases with measles and other things. It's more effective than a vaccination. And he didn't tell us that either. He was, and when you read the letters, he was basically saying, speaking out of both sides of his mouth, he was telling some people that it might not be wise to shut down the schools, or it might not be wise to have a complete lockdown, i.e. start out was, and then he was attacking them. And fourth and finally, all of what I just said, he did not want the people to know. So he, doctor, I don't know if that's the right word, suppressed his private correspondence and memos and things and did not turn them over in a prompt fashion. Very funny, because in our current climate, if you don't do that, they raid your home, like they went after Marlago. They went after 11,000 documents. You know, how many were classified? 102. I think it was 0.001%. So the FBI went in a SWAT fashion, went in, checked malignia's underwear drawer, went in the closets, and that thing was guarded, you know, with a guard entrance, it was perfectly safe. Then, doctored it through all the documents on the ground, made it look messy, photographed them, then put little things they brought and said, "classified top secret" and paste it out on every 102 out of 11,000. So in that climate, I don't feel sorry for it. No, especially when Joe Biden's a storage of classified documents was much worse. I mean, that box with this Corvette. Yeah, right next in the garage, right next to his car. It's hard working around that. Yeah, exactly. All right, Victor, so let's turn, most of the discussion is on the DSA and DSA candidates and the bizarre and weird things that they're willing to say and to stand by. But I haven't really heard you talk a lot about the dilemma for Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer in this. In this week, we saw, you know, Hakeem Jeffries trying to sit on the fence. I don't agree with their agenda, but they're welcome in the party. What do you see as the future for this old guard in the Democratic Party? Are they done for or is this DSA going to go away? There wouldn't be a problem if they had the talents of a Nancy Pelosi. And I mean that in a backhanded way. Our Newt Ginrich, our Tip O'Neill, you know what I'm saying? If you were a really good house manager or a Senate majority leader by your influence, you and your intellect and your instincts, you would see what these democratic socialists were, and you would call them in and say, look, I know what you guys are and we are useful to us. We were the first people. Remember, I want to remind you people, we said, pack the court. We said, get rid of the Electoral College. We said, bring in new states, not you, we did. And so don't think you're the only radicals here. So we're willing to work with you and give you appointments and campaign and unleash the money, but you got to do something for us. You got to cut out this blank blank about getting rid of the Pentagon, getting rid of the, you know what I mean? And made a deal. But they're so inept that they just put their hand in their finger in the wind and thought, who's who's I mean, Chuck Schumer got in front of the Supreme, he could have said to them, I'm more radical than you are, I got in front of the Supreme Court. And I said, Kavanaugh, corsage, you reap the wind, you're going to, you sow the wind, you're going to reap the world when you don't know what's going to hit you. And a sniper showed up a few months later at Kavanaugh. They did some really crazy thing. They were as I wrote an article. They were the Dr. Frankenstein's and they created this socialist Frankenstein and monster and now it's devouring them because they're weak. And when you look at Hikem Jeffries, he's like a deer in the headlights. His eyes start rolling. Well, do you think you have the, do you think that you have the votes to pass? He, you know, of course we do. And why wouldn't we, you know, it's just gibberish. And when you hear Chuck Schumer, it's just, he bends over and he reads off this script. We're going to work very hard and we're going to, we're going to elect Democrats. Well, does that mean you're, we work, we're going to work very hard and we're going to elect Democrats. Does that mean you're going to work with the socialist or are there some that you can't be in the same state? We're going to work very hard and who, who, I mean, I mean that. So they're old, funny, dutty, ossified, calcified hacks. And these young people are arrogant, ignorant, somewhat charismatic. I mean, L. Syed wears his little tight shirt, he works out, and AOC's always trying to act like she's miss hot chick kind of look. And Mandame was ex-rapper and he's, he's got that socialist fake smile. And then Hassan Piker is supposed to be hot for all the women. So they all, that's what, if you ask any of those socialists, how are you going to implement Medicare for all? We owe $40 trillion debt. We're probably going to have to cut healthcare. How are we going to do it? They don't know, they don't care. So they could have easily been isolated, but these people were incompetent and they put their toe in the left wing waters and then the other people saw that and jumped in. They created the socialists. And they, they need, they've been a big gift to Trump because they're so incompetent and off-putting repulsive that, I mean, Hikeham Jeffrey thought, wow, everybody's threatening Trump. And maybe I should do it too. They're saying they want to blow him up, they want to burn him up, they want to slice him up. I'll get a bat and I'll pose with a video, a baseball bat. And we're not going to, we're going to fight down Trump tooth and net with a bat. He looked about his, he looked unconvincing and he looked like a demagogue, you know what I mean? Yeah, it seems to me that the old guard feels like they need this DSA faction because if they cut him loose, it would, they could possibly form a third party and then take voters away from them. And so they're, they're dallying like that. And then these DSA people who don't seem to quite fit into the democratic party seem to think, well, we need that Democratic party, otherwise as a third party we're not going to, we wouldn't make it. History with third party working. I think it was Tucker Carlson who said, third parties are like bees, they sting in that and then they die. But my point is they're like a vampire, the old guard, their pale and their need of blood and they see these people, they can get their fangs into and suck out that energy. But it's, but the young people think what we're watching now is not a third party tea party movement. These are not the tea party that are kind of an adjacent group that want to enhance or pressure the Republican party. This is a virus that wants to bore into the Democratic party and take over the DNA and say their Democrats and inherit all that legacy and infrastructure and bureaucracy and donor base and destroy the Democratic party as we know it and make a new one. And there's no room, if anybody doesn't see that, there's no room for those people. So what they needed to do is to humiliate them if they don't like them, carvel and all those other people, they need to not back them in these sensational. They should just say we're not going to get involved with Susan Collins. We're not going to get involved with Talleriko. You know, Jackson, he's kind of crazy. They should just keep quiet. I'll say we're not going to go campaign and then see three big losses because they weren't going to win those anyway. I don't think, I don't think they're going to beat a Republican candidate. And then that would, once they lose a couple of big races, if that crazy Nixon woman hadn't beaten, beaten Venman, that whole, they were deflated in Florida. That was the first real state everybody looked at where there wasn't a blue city enclave with a 70% Democratic voter base in the district. But she was running against the most dislike man in America, Venman, who just secrete's obnoxiousness. He's so creepy. He's old again he is. He's just oily. And he's done so many bad things that everybody looks at him and they think, "God, go back under your rock." Describe me sounds worse than Newsome, Gavin Newsome. So I guess he's outdone him. All right, Victor, we are at the end of the show and I have some comments. And this one is sort of a kumbaya comment. Joan Leach says, "I have enjoyed listening to your podcast. I especially enjoy hearing about your farm experiences." And I smile. We bought a 23 acre farm in 1999 and jumped right in with no experience with young children. I understand the dangers of a farm. They are dangerous places to live and work. We've had our share of farm accidents. When you've described your family's experiences with farming accidents and yet continue to work, I understand completely. I smiled in agreement. Thank you for your program. You continue to educate a hungry audience with your wisdom when you could be tempted to retire. Thank you also for your subtle humor and your two co-hosts, Jack and Sammy, who complimented you perfectly. That was a very nice compliment. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of a family tradition. You cut off the end of your finger. My grandfather did, my twin brother did, and I hope their children have them. Okay, so this one I really like because I'm a Rubio fan myself. So George Skinner says, "As an old broken down retired military man, I would like to put in my two cents on the 28th election." The question of who should be the 48th president of our great nation is pretty obvious. Marco Rubio has all the checkmarks. I don't need to itemize everyone. He has demonstrated all attributes required to convince me of his capacity to lead the nation in the delicate four years post, four post Trump years. We will undergo to continue the fight against the demonically possessed left. I am one man with one vote, and that will be for Marco Rubio, just saying. Marco Rubio is a great guy. He is. He's very good. He's very good. I think he has a lot to do with the entire radical transformation from comedy governments in Latin America to, I think of the 30 or so, 32 independent nations in the Caribbean, Central American, South America. I think 20, all but five of them now are center-right or pro-American. That's really what he's been doing. It's really good. I mean, he can't spread him everywhere, but I think he would have been an effective diplomat with Iran and the Palestinian-Israeli issue. Agreed, wholeheartedly. And thank you, Victor, for all your wisdom today, and thanks to our audience for joining us on this weekend episode. Thank you for watching and listening. This is Samuink and Victor Davis-Hansen and we're signing off.