Vice Versa (1988)

We're talking again My body's for me Don't think too much From the two point Two point Two point And back again Welcome to Swapcast I'm your host Paul Mitzi and with me we have Brendan Lever And Lucy Thomas Every episode we watch a film in the Body Swap movie genre and break it down for you This week we are watching the 1988 comedy Vice Versa starring Judge Ridehold and Fred Savage The IMDB plot synopsis states During an argument a divorced executive and his 11 year old son casually touch a magical Tibetan skull releasing a mysterious power that transfers the father's mind to the body of the son and vice versa Their problems have just begun Oh that's where the vice versa Oh that's where the vice versa Clever Alright so this is the first Body Swap film we've done that was made in the 80s So do you feel like this was the prime era for a Body Swap film to happen? I'm gonna say yes Yes Oh my god I love this movie so much and it was so perfect Yes This was like the first 80s one we've done yes Yes And I was like really pumped for this So I agree Oh god it was so good Yeah I feel like the sensibilities of the era really fit the ridiculousness Yes absolutely Totally agree And I feel like there was a big resurgence of this genre in the 80s Around this time Right Like a couple of months after this came out Big came out Right A year before this came out there was a film with the exact same plot called Like Father Like Son There was one dream, a little dream I'm thinking that came out the same year as well In the era of that Yeah That's the Cory Felgman one? I think so yeah Oh my god they have to be that Put that in the list Yeah Feldman Yeah I feel like this kind of start Well this and like Father Like Son kind of started The genre and kind of revitalized it Yeah Yes Did you guys watch this movie when you were younger? Had you ever seen it before? Or ever seen going in fresh? Yeah no No I hadn't seen it either Well actually the part with the frog for some reason felt really familiar Maybe it happened in your life Did I have a bit frog? I've got a frog story Can we get off topic yet? Yeah Can I get a frog story? I'm gonna get a frog story No my story is just I had a pet frog Frog us moving into a house with a disgusting swimming pool And we had a frog like Was it cute or like gross? Yeah it was a frog It was a little frog Right wasn't like a cane toad? No Was it a size of a cane toad? Did you name it? Curve it Because we were that original yeah You could not do that frog story quickly? Yeah of course So my mum was a teacher when I was growing up My mum's kindie had frogs And she brought them home so that she could look after them overnight And she was like do you want to hold it? My dad was holding one and I was like Oh that looks pretty good Yeah I'll hold the frog And you know you have to have your hands when you hold a frog For the little paws or whatever I didn't know that so it was probably torturing her Yeah I think Fred Savage might have been torturing this frog too Anyway I held the frog in my hand But the one my dad was holding was completely chilled out Just sitting there in his hand The one I got jumped to my face instantly It jumped up my arm And I was freaking out And I was yelling at my mum to get it off me And she was like I don't have wet hands I can't touch it Yeah so I've got a bit of a frog So you've never been able to touch a frog? No I haven't really had the opportunity I guess But yeah Well you're a little dizzy We are a surprise Oh god I'm always escaped Who's Mo? My frog [Screams] You know the way it films made at this time They're just instantly familiar There's like this nostalgic feeling that just radiates from them Yeah And cause it was set around Christmas time as well It was just instantly made me feel fuzzy I love it Although I totally forgot it was Christmas Yeah it wasn't a huge plot point But there was a bit of Christmas tree Jumping in his window at night And there was like the decoration Christmas story Yeah So I have to say like when the film opens And it's like in the middle of the jungle in Thailand I'm like is this the right movie? Yes I'm like that as well So yeah it's like this crazy opening Where like these you know people go into like an ancient temple And steal this skull and then all these monks come after them I guess it's the setup for the magical object doesn't it? Yeah really cool And the fact that you know this comedy relationship comedy actually made the effort And went to Thailand and shot all these scenes Yeah Multiple scenes in Thailand You know I don't feel like a lot of comedies would probably bother doing that anymore No They'd probably just like CGI Thailand is the background But cause you know in the 80s they had to do it And it actually feels It feels more expensive than what a lot of the comedies do nowadays Yeah What did you think of the magical object? Yeah we should start with the swap Cause this is a good swap Yeah So the beginning where introduced there's these guys they steal like this skull from a temple That looks like to me it looked like some weird Nazi memorabilia What's up Tibetan? I thought it looked like something you keep boozing It looked like a bottle Yeah it had like a gold legs And then the skull was upside down It was upside down But the bottom of the jaw was made of metal Silver yeah And it opened and closed It was quite horrifying Yeah yeah It was fucking cool It actually yeah it looked like something you'd see in Indiana Jones movie Yeah So Judge Wright and Hold who plays the dad he works for a department store and he's getting Ideas for things that they can recreate in the cell Basically stealing control Yes That can be mass produced And mass produced Yeah as the viewers face to be like championing it like I hope he gets you know And he's like this cost me a dollar and the markup I'm gonna put on this It's like that's really dodgy Yeah yeah and he keeps like talking about you know the exotic orientals And it's like yeah this wouldn't be in the movie now And I mean isn't that always the trouble when you watch a film from that time Yeah There were a lot of things I was like I can't say that anymore Yeah I haven't read a year but apparently Molly Ringrolled say today about like what rewatching films in the 80s Oh my god really Like dealing with the troubling aspects of them because she was like rewatching pretty in pink with her kids Oh my god the long dark dawn Yeah So Yeah Well couldn't have her owning it I guess I mean yeah she was just a teenager Didn't really have much control I guess So anyway When he's over there He buys this vase And then I guess on the plane ride home it gets mixed up with this art dealers Luggage He gets the skull Yeah And then he's arguing with his son who he barely sees Because he's divorced now And they both casually in the conversation both wish that they were each other As you do Yeah And then swap But it's a bit different than other swap films because their minds don't just transfer Their bodies literally transform into each other So like they're shrinking down and they're growing up and the ripped clothes and the Yeah So good Fred Savage went after the swap he's like in a giant A baggy suit And then Judge Reinhold looks like the whole car series I love that was the first time we've seen that since we started I thought it was really funny You know I wish I could change places with you Yeah I wish I could too [Sounds of a car] But back to the actual swap itself It was cool that the whole transforming thing But it led to probably the creepiest swap back with ever had Yes In the movie The swap So they realized their bodies are going to literally transform Is this a shirt? What's that? Not a shirtless So in the final scene of the movie like spoiler alert, in the final scene of the movie The dad crawls into the suns Well the sun in the side's body crawls into the sun Not too weak his ex wife Yeah Crawls through Tells his son to strip down Oh my god, it was bad, wasn't it? Yeah, they both stripped down completely naked So they don't run there out, fit? Yeah, sit in front of each other on the floor Naked And then touch this skull together I can't just say at this point, just to be devil's advocate They've already seen each other's nude bodies for however many days They've been swapped, I guess they just like fuck it like it doesn't even matter But just the optics of the scene It wasn't great Yeah, this dark room with this like obitus vibe And a man and a child sitting naked in the room And then on top of that Like because it starts making noises so then the mum wakes up And that was like nerve wracking I was like, I was thinking she might. She's gonna walk in there and think the worst That's all Like what would you think? Like if you were that kid's mum and you walked in on that What conclusion could you come to about that? Also can we just quickly sidebar? The mum is the mum from. Ma'am in the middle And she is ageless She just looks exactly the same There's so many sitcom stars and stuff in this film Like Jane Lynch was in it, did you notice that? - Yeah, yeah. - And I always forget his name. One of the sleazy executives, - Yeah, I know. - He's like, from Maddie back to you. - How's after they swapped, just talking about all the creepy things. How weird was the scene with Judge Ryan Hold? - He looked down at his dick and was like, "Hmm, my dick is dick." (laughing) - And did his muscles in there. Mira, I'm just like, this is wrong on every level. - Yeah, the muscles, whatever, but the fact that he like, stares at his dick. - Yeah, he hasn't looked at his eyes. - And he-- - Yes, like he won the lottery. - Yes. - Judd is hung. - I was about to say, maybe that's all, that was to establish. And I think it was established that he's like, pre-pubesant, like he doesn't care about girls and he finds out all the things. So what's the advantage of having this giant dick for him? (laughing) - I have so much to say on this topic. (laughing) - There's several issues in this film. We are not leaving this apartment. Try and remember, I'm still your father. - Try and remember, I'm bigger than you now. - Yeah, I can think of two other like super creepy scenes in this film. I don't know if you guys, I think he have the same one. - No, I mean we are. - All right, so number one, there's a girl, he's in class and he's just helped a girl in the class from the police. - Yep, so she writes him a love note. I love you, love heart, hands it to him. He drops it accidentally, his teacher picks it up and she thinks that he wrote it to her. - Yeah, yeah. - And she likes it. - She loves it. - She starts giving him like sex eyes and gets all giggly. - And like this is like, you know, - I'm an old boy. - And this is like his kind of free pass with her. Like he was always getting in trouble before and now she's like, oh, he likes me, he's fine. - I get it, yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - But the great payoff to that scene is then she calls the dad up for the parent teacher interview. So the dad obviously has a kid's soul inside of it and she's like, yeah, I think your son's in love with me. And he has like this like really violent reaction. - No. - You as it. - Frankly, I think he has to crush on me. - No way. - And she's like super offended. - Yeah, yeah, it's so good. - Also that, she was not a hot teacher. I don't want to start the hot or not yet, but. - Yeah, yeah. - She had like full shy and disgusting hair. - Yeah, yeah, and giant glasses and like a pussy bow blouse and like just a really bad outfit. - Like the glasses are kind of like you could wear them there, right? - Yeah. - I feel like the glasses are cool, but the hair and the outfit. - Do not get glasses like that, Paul. - I'm gonna, I'm gonna. - Sorry. - Yeah. - Mr. Seymour, I'm trying to tell you, your son is a dreamer. All he thinks about his music. - He likes music. And you know what? Maybe one day it'll be a big star. And you ask him to come back here and give our prizes and stuff. And maybe just walk as the way you dump on him. - But yeah, the ultimate creepy scene. (laughing) - Are we gonna just go straight to it, yep? - I think we need to, yeah. We'd list enough of the green. - Well, okay, do it. 'Cause yeah, I don't get what they were getting out with this. (laughing) So. - Sensation with deaf brand. The dad in the son's body is talking to the dad's girlfriend. And he does his heart-filled speech like from speaking as the kid, but obviously he's got his own perspective. He's like, yeah, my dad, he really loves you. And he thinks a lot of you and she's so hard, that's so sweet. And then he goes in. - He goes in. - For a kiss. 11 year old boy, leans in. For a kiss. - With a 35 year old woman. - And she leans back. (laughing) And they are that close to kissing. - The kissing, the dad's body walks in and stops it. - He didn't stop it. - Thank God. - Like she just seemed like mesmerized. Like she was just. - I guess it's because the person that she loved was in that little person's body and she was like, this is not excuse. There's no excuse. - He's definitely not. - There's a connection. - Definitely not. 'Cause Fred Savage comes in and he's like, I feel sick. - Oh really? - That's the thing. She in the just before that. - All right. - She was making out. - With the dad. - With the dad, which had the sons. - Yeah, ready to go to bed with. - So the 11 year old boy's first kiss was technically with a 35 year old woman. - Yeah. - And it was like a kiss as well. - And a bunch of like, an inched-dish jaw. - It's not what I really want. - He's like in the body of a grown adult. So like this is, he's past puberty. - I bet he's dealing with a world of chemicals that he's never experienced. - Absolutely. - And to judge Reinhold's credit, he sells it. Like, you can see that confusion in his eyes. You can see the conflict there. - I'll give it to him on that. But I am conflicted about his role in this film. - See, I think he made this film what it is. - He's fantastic. - Of all the films we've watched, she's friend and you never on board with us. - All the films we've watched, this was my favorite of the, like the kid acting, like an adult and the adult acting, like a kid. - That's because, love to- - That's because Fred Savage isn't a doll. He was never a doll. - Yeah, I definitely wrote down that he would have had a really weird life and it would have been quite easy for him. But he, I thought Fred Savage had really good swagger, drinking a martini and like speaking in really adult language. I thought he did really well and I thought, Judge had this child like wonder, that was really, I really liked her. I thought it was my favorite so far. - Judge was acting like a four year old, not an 11 year old. (laughing) - But I don't know, I feel like even an 11 year old was in an older body, it would come off as younger than what he did. - Because you were experiencing all these things, yeah. - And I loved your outbred, didn't you? - Yeah, fine. - I think I've heard enough music for one evening, besides, we don't wanna like Charlie up. - What? (sniffing) (sniffing) (sniffing) (sniffing) - But there were some weird depictions of kids in this film like, what school has a ticket scalper in an 11 year old ticket scalper? - Okay, that's a good one. - That's a good one. - That child, I need to find my notes. He was dressed like a wise cracking bookie that was like 25 years older than him. He was wearing a volatile, really grown up weird glasses. Like an old man, grandpa, hat, and he had like a patent jacket and a patent shirt that were different, and he had all these pins all over him, and he was so much swagger. - I loved that character. - And he was going from class to class, selling concert tickets. - Yeah. - And the teachers knew they like, "Leave them alone." (laughing) - I thought that was great. - And then there was the other kid, were we supposed to believe he was reading a pointy in class? - Yes. (laughing) - Like, try and hide it. - Yeah, he's like just had it right in front of him, and the teacher's like, "Get rid of that filthy magazine." And he just brings it up and puts it on the desk, and then the class goes on as normal. - Bigger shit eating grin at his face as well. - Yeah. - Yeah, I was reading a poll on you. - I don't know what a weirdo. - Yeah. - What a weirdo. - But should the teacher be like, - We're gonna talk to your parents about this. - Yeah, making a big deal out of this. Maybe she gave it to him. Maybe she's grooming him as well. (laughing) - I feel like she, there's a whole, - Let's teach it to the world. - The story without a awful teacher. - Sit down, take off that headset and give me that filthy magazine. - So we were talking before about that big came out a couple months after this. I feel like they're very similar. - I bet they would have been a race. - I bet they would have both known about it. - Totally, yeah. - The scene that really reminded me a lot of big the most was the-- - The rock band? - Yeah, in pop-due concert. - Yeah. - For sure. - And Judd Rineho's character, he works in a department store and he's walking through the musical instrument department and he see some guy playing this like 80s electronic guitar. - It was like a computer guitar. - It was a guitar, yeah. - Apparently cost $7,000. - It was so ugly. - We should find how much it would cost to buy with it if there's still $7,000. - Like it wasn't even a keytar. It was like, what a synth guitar. - Yeah, it was literally like a guitar where the strings didn't exist but it's like an estimated where you were on the, I don't know, pads. - So then he decides to like start playing the drums with the guitar person and then the shopkeeper comes and starts playing the keyboard. - Yeah, but did you feel like the shopkeeper's keyboard was like really awful? - Yeah, the keyboard was, the keyboard was bad. - When the keyboard player jumped in, I was like, "Oh, yeah." - Maybe dial it back to the piano. - Yeah, yeah. - There should have been cuts between the two of them. - Oh, Jesus, kill it. The kill of the violin. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But that really reminded me of like the giant keyboard scene in big. - There was definitely a lot of similarities. - Pretty hot legs. I know. I play the drums. - What did we think of the work situation that he was in like the guys he worked with? - So the guys he worked with were just disgusting. They were gross business, douche bros, disgusting. One of them said, "I think I was about to say the same thing." - One of them said, and you got to insert this clip here. - Do it at the same time. - Say the same thing. - Have you ever seen such an available mouth? (laughing) I was like, "What the fucking fuck was that?" I was disgusted again, the 80s fuck man. - This is a kids' film. - Oh my God. - Oh my God. - He sees the, a girl you're like, like, have you ever seen such an available mouth? - That sounds like a James Bond line, you know that. Like, my mouth is too small. And he's like, I think it's just the right size. Oh my God. Get rid of that. Been doing that impression. Yeah, but it was, I could have, yeah, like he said, what's this film rated? - Far out. - An available mouth? Oh my God. - Boy, did Breverman look out? That's his newest temp. You ever seen such an available mouth? I bet it's nice in there. You're a good place to set up camp. - Oh, but at least the CEO was a work. - Right. - 'Cause like, his secretary or something, I don't know. I can't presume, but I already have. You know, where the CEO is like blasting them. And he's like, you're the chairman. And she's like, chair person. - Yeah, that's right. - And he's like, oh yeah, yeah, chair person. He doesn't go, whatever. - Yeah. - Yeah. But he can't really say his that work, because remember in the end of the day, the whole plot is them trying to racially appropriate a title camp. - Yeah. But he's against it. - Judge Ryan Holtz-Gol was really weird. Like it kind of didn't really make sense. He had this kind of high, high powered executive position. And then like, the store that he worked in was kind of just like a target. - Yeah. - So I think it was supposed to be like a high end department store. - It did not look like that. And also there was a department that sold spice supplies. - Yeah, and like full on ones. Like briefcases, briefcases, - And the guys just got all this info about stuff. He's like, oh, this is how you do this. And yeah, it was an interesting place. - It is America. Like the guy's brandishing a gut in the store. And everyone's like, that was a hilarious thing. Where they're all having a conversation. And the bad guy has a gun pointed out and they're all ignoring it. (laughing) - And guns were in sporting goods, sir. - So yeah, we ever really talked about the villains. So it was Suzy Kurtz and I, her. But the guy, I'm pretty sure he's from the sopranos. I don't know what you're saying. - Yeah, yeah. - I know her as the secretary in the first scene of cool intentions. - That's it. - Yeah. - But she's one of those people who's been in everything. - Yeah. - Yeah, we're a defining role. - The villains. The villains were good. - Yeah. So there were like art dealers that wanted the skull and were like at first they, you know, we're just gonna swap it back for the vase but because then the body swap happened and it was a whole bunch of, you know, misunderstandings. So then they eventually decide that they're gonna kidnap Fred Savage. Which is a terrible plan. - But by the way, great scene. - Like do we need to break that down now? Do it later. - Which scene like the actual kidnapping? - You know the way he got, because well, once they've got him because he's an adult in a child's body. He wasn't panicked at all. You know, like they give him the phone to call his dad and he's like, listen to me. - Don't panic. This is where I am. This is what you need to do. And she's like looking at him like, why aren't you freaked out? You're a kid. - Pull yourself together. - Yeah. Don't want you to panic. The thing is I've been kidnapped. - What do you mean, kidnapped? Where are you? Who did it? Stop that. What do I just ask you not to do? - Yeah, I felt that they were good feelings. But while I was absolutely living for in this film was Fred Savage drinking cocktails. - Yeah, I love it. I love it. - It's just the visual of it. This little kid drinking. - And when the mom comes in and she's like, you're drinking? - And cause was he doing something else as well? - I can't remember. - Banging a 35. (laughing) - Shit. - You drink a lot, huh Dad? - Only under stress. I think the last few days come under that category. - So that's one thing with this film. This is the first time our swap characters have actually had the idea to call in sick to their respective work in school so that I wouldn't have to have all these awkward situations. - And also the first time we've seen the classic stitch up of, let's use a microphone and an earpiece and I'll try and get you through. That's never gone well in real life. So he's in this big meeting. - Yeah. - But they didn't have all the 80s films we did to know. - We did. - Right. - Yeah. - And to be fair, it would have gone all right. - Yeah, I love it. - We didn't get kidnapped by the way. - We didn't get kidnapped and you can hear the guys hearing in the ear like the kid's breaking out. - Kids, I still don't need to resort to violence. (laughing) - And then he's just in the meeting like, "Um, would you like me to clarify the question?" - So at one point in the film, Judge Reinhold orders at a restaurant and he orders Grey Poupon. - Yeah. - And then in the cafeteria later, he asks for it and they don't have it. Which is a joke that makes no sense because even as a kid in high school, I'm sure he, like when he was 11 years old, he wouldn't have had Grey Poupon school cafeteria. - But this is the thing that dad was so out of touch. - But my question is, what the fuck is Grey Poupon? (laughing) - I don't know. - Like, all I think of when I hear in films, there's a thing in Wayne's World, you know? They pull up next to a car and there's like, really rich people and Wayne's like, "Why'd you end up down?" - Yeah. - And he's being silly and he says, "Do you have any Grey Poupon?" And he says the same thing. So I just immediately thought of Wayne's World. But yeah, I don't know. I don't even know how you would spell it to Google it. - It's making us sound very uneducated. - Grey, like the color grey and then Poupon is P-O-U-P-O-N. - It's like a caviar thing. The least appetizing food. - Grey poo in the night pond. (laughing) - Poo-Poo. (laughing) - You can count that out, but fuck that. - I can't believe how much. I don't know if you've lost it. - I can't believe I've lost it. - I can't believe my mind. (laughing) - All right, listeners, I'm going to find out what Grey Poupon is. - While you're looking up that, the other thing is that fancy restaurant everyone at home are doing quotations. (laughing) The fancy restaurant where the frog gets light loads. Did you, like, Dan Savage is eating canned spaghetti. - Fred Savage. - Fred Savage. - It's eating-- - It's eating-- - It's eating savage. - It's the sex expert. - Makes it cameo, yeah. - No, what? - What? - It's rude. (laughing) - Like, he's so really warm now. - I just felt like his meal was like canned spaghetti. - It looks sheer. - Yeah, look at that. - It's not as good as that, but not great. I don't know what you call that production design on. - Yeah. - Come on, guys. Spring first, some good looking food in the budget. - All right, so we have Grey Poupon. Are you ready for this? - Shit. - Grey Poupon is a brand of whole grain mustard and Dijon mustard, which originated in Dijon France. - It's just mustard. - It's fucking mustard. - I'm like, I can't believe I'm some fucking mustard. - Apparently it became popular in the '80s as American taste brought in from conventional American yellow mustard. - What a knob to ask about. - Sort of disappointing as well. - I know, I thought I'd be something fancy like caviar. - Yeah, I thought it'd be like duck gizzards grinded. - Yeah, completely. Yeah. You know, when Judge was home by himself for the first time on that first day and it was that fucking Biliardos song, ♪ Money, money ♪ and he's like walking around the house like picking out his time stuff. I thought that was really good. - Yeah, there was a lot of good musical moments. - I don't know if you remember there's a band for Savage's "Sus" - Malice. - Yeah. - Did you ever, you guys are familiar with "Malice" or anything? - No, but it's full like kind of Alice Cooper sort of iPods on it. It's real glam rock, amazing "Malice" and. - I wasn't sure if they were made up for the film, but then at the end it's like "Malice" appears courtesy of Columbia Records or something like that. So I guess they were a thing at the time. - Yeah, but. - So if "Malice" is listening, get it touch. Did you enjoy the musical "Starlings of Malice"? - Yeah, I was gonna say, don't say that 'cause I'm gonna talk shit about that. - Yeah, it wasn't really my cup of tea, but I appreciated their outfits and their commitment to the aesthetic. It takes a lot for a man to dress that way. I think you've got to really commit to that lifestyle. - It's a very '80s. - The way I live at this. - Yeah, yeah. - Very no shit. - Right, and like a band-danner. - Yeah, yeah. - But I have to say the end credits song by Diane Warren was fucking awful. - What, wasn't it again? I was singing it on the way here. - Yeah, set the note to music. It was so inappropriate. - Yeah, it was so fun. - The film was so fun and it was such a fucking downer. - Yeah, it was really. - They should've played "Mona Mona" again. - Down, down be romantic ballad. - Yeah. - And it kind of, I don't know, you guys, oh, I'm a phoenix, so you haven't seen "Call Me By Your Name" yet. - But I take great offense. - No, no, no. I'm only joking, listen. - Only Brendan's homophobic. - Yeah, I'm a good Ella. - I'm afraid it will turn me. (laughing) - Oh my God. - That was so hot. - But the end, like shot of this film in that film are actually very similar. - What? - That was so possible. - But it's like it really downbeat sad ending for "Call Me By Your Name". - Can't spoil it. - I know the spoiler, but yeah, it's just like this long take on a face. And that's all I could think of in this film, I was like, "Why is this the end shot?" It's like this sad song and a slow zoom in on Fred's "Havages" face is like, looks longingly out of window. - No, I don't know. - To me it was like, he's watching the car drive by. I was like, when's this car gonna fucking turn a corner? He's been looking for two minutes. - Yeah, I feel like it was a slow mo shot of him doing nothing. - Yeah, very strange choice. - Also, how's the way Fred Savage, like the kid in the dead's body, proposed to the girlfriend. - He was ready. - And then they swapped back and the guys like, - Surprise. - What? Yeah. This was a pretty cheeky. - You got me son. - He was like, well, I have to marry this woman now, okay? I mean, lucky it worked out because I guess maybe the kid gave him a bit of a push in the right direction. Still though, pretty bold. - It would have been funny if it was like, as soon as he heard it's like, oh, I should try. - Obviously, I've gotta go. I changed my mind. - I hope you like it. - If you don't take it dead, I will. (laughing) - Oh, dear. - Oh, I just remembered what the mum was upset about. How can we edit it in so I can just start? (laughing) And when the mum comes in and she's like, you're drinking? - I can't remember. - What was it that just had an interest? - So when she walks in, he says, yeah, when she walks in, he's got a drink in his hand and he's like, holy shit, you're ready? (laughing) - That's right, man. (laughing) - That was the biggest laugh of the whole world. - Yeah. - Yes. - We're into quite a lot of swearing. - Yeah, there was lots of like, son of a bitch and yeah, there was lots of him getting freaked out. - Good thing he's got parents that are willing to pimp him out. - Oh shit, what are you doing here? - Is that how you greet your mother? He's drinking. Marshall, he has drinking! - Hot or not, our favorite segment. I feel like it's not Lucy's, 'cause her eyes twitch when I said that. - No, I mean, I just thought there wasn't, there's not, I mean, who are we gonna do? Judge Reinhold, really. - So I've got like a one to start with, the out of left field. I was living for the secretary. Her makeup, her hair, her outfit, everything was on point. - It was great. - She looked amazing. - Yeah. - Would you say, heart-bending? (laughing) - I wasn't a fan, but I'm glad you guys are. (laughing) - I'm just a little away from the side of the opinion. (laughing) - I mean, never agree with us. What is wrong with you? - I just had different tastes. - Oh, that's hilarious. - So I feel like you could have just like, picked her up out of the film and put here in a 2018 movie and you wouldn't have had to change anything about the way she looked. She looked amazing. - That's fair. - That's a good call. - Are the minor characters that I thought was hot? (laughing) - Yes, all right. - The terrible keyboardist shop assistant? - Yep. - Really? - Yes. - Yeah, I'm so surprised with that one. (laughing) - Yeah, he's cute. - Well, see, the one was long hair. - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Was it the undercut? - Was it the. - He looks like the cool way by your name, guy. I'm a show player, whatever it is, name it. (laughing) - Timothy Shalamey. - Shalamey. - Yeah. - Shalamey. - I've been fucking school rock on his cinema. Sorry about that. - Well, that one I. - It's pronounced "shale play." - I highly disagree with. And I hope everyone at home will back me up. This guy is a dog. - All right, well, there will be like a poll on our social media, so make sure you vote pro. - Yeah, back keyboardist. - Bertie Keyboard. - Okay. - What about Judge Ryan Holt? - Judge Ryan Holt. I have to say borderline hot. Like, it's not someone I would like be like, "Oh man, that's a hot person." But he was a high-key. - But he's got a real kind of dad vibe. It's pretty. He's real. - I found. - This is the lady, Lucy. (laughing) - Yeah. This is gonna sound creepy, but. - Oh dear. - I feel like he was hotter when he was playing the young kid. (laughing) - Maybe because he wore like cooler outfits and stuff. - We have a stick up his ass. - Yeah, like when he was all like, you know, Debbie down a dad. - He was really stuffy. Yeah, I get that. - No, they're kind of like Lucy. Not Lucy. Lucy. - Lucy, Lucy. - Yeah, Lucy vibe. (laughing) - So the girlfriend, hot or not, Brendan. - Hot derudy. - Yeah, yeah. - She was very pretty. - Yeah. - She's so lovely as well. - Yeah, and her style was pretty good as well. It wasn't too horrendous for me. - I know what I'm gonna say. The first hair do she had, 'cause she changes the hair like, like every day, like dramatically. - Women like variety. - Yeah. - No, the first hair do I wasn't so keen on her, but the second one onwards, I was like. - Yeah, and she was always wearing great statement earrings. I really admire that. - Is it? - 'Cause I feel like used to watch A.D.'s films and go, "Everyone looks awful." I don't know, because of our fashions, I think going more towards that. - It's very sick, it's very sick. - Oh yeah, are we just becoming more forgiving of it? Is it still as terrible as it always had? - But this was late A.D.'s, right? - Well, you wasn't A.D.A. - A.D.A. - So it's close to the '90s than it is to the '70s. - Yeah. - And the '90s, the '90s, the '90s. - It's like, sort of the really bad period was more. - Towards the '70s. - Yeah, because I feel like 90s stuff, she says, "Well, wearing ripped jeans is really in fashion now." So it was a bit more tailored to the present day, as opposed to like, there was no like, crazy shoulder pads or it wasn't that kind of A.D.'s vibes. - But even that stuff now, I feel like I look at, "I was in Ford out of Orphal, I was probably younger, "it was probably like, teenager or something." And I feel like then we're all trying to dress to not be individuals, like we were dressed in jeans and flannel shirts, says the guy we're wearing. - I'll just say, you're 90s as well, how hilarious. - But like, you know, being unique and stylish, I think that's actually come back around, or at least people actually wanna dress like someone. - They want to stand out. - Everyone else, yeah. - Yeah, it's a fair call. - Yeah, I feel like anything that, "Jad dry and hoe war in this film, "I would put even the streets and stuff." - It was some good carts as well. Yeah. - Yeah. - There's meel. - I was thinking of all the women. Right-hung dressed like a bum. Like the suits and stuff, when he was in casual wear. - Oh, he was in casual wear. - He was in a truckhead, said like, "Yeah, you know, a dress." - But that's because he was a jo-- he was a jo-- - He was like, "I don't know what to wear." And then when he wore a suit with really bad sneakers, that was pretty funny. - Yeah. - The Jerry Sinfield look. - God, Jerry Sinfield just, he's not tall. - Fred Sinfield's the tire feel was dressed like Jerry Sinfield. - Oh, so yeah, he was like, kind of gaudy, gold chain on. He was wearing the whole film. Like you could see it kind of like underneath his shirt. I thought that was really funny. Like this kind of little Italian thick head of hair. - Yeah. - Yeah, that's funny. - Are there any other people we want to assist their attractiveness? - No, not today. - What's her name? - Malcolm the Mill, my brother? - Jane Krizowski. - Is that a joke? - I'm a-- - She was really beautiful. - Yeah. - I'd say, "Hop." - Yeah, I was gonna give her a pass. And in the good way. (laughing) - I was just saying-- - I'm confused. - Again with a fucking pass. Learn some new words. - Stop dumping on me, dad. - I'm not dumping on you. I've been up since six and I have a very tough day ahead. - So now, time for a review segment where we look around the internet and see what other people think of the film. So this one's from Amazon, a username Terry W. gave it two stars with the title, "Did Not Like." - Ooh. - It is just remake of the male version of "Changing Places with Jamie Lee Curtis." I like her version better. This one was not good to me. Doesn't make any sense. - How dare they? - When was "Changing Places"? - Well, there's no movie called "Changing Places." She was in "Trading Places," which wasn't a bloody swag film. So I'm guessing he was talking about "Freaky Friday," which this was definitely not a remake of "Coming Up." - "Goodbye, Spurs." - "Okay, about the 20 years before." - First, this is based on a book that was written in 1882. - Yeah. - Oh my God, that's so funny. What a "Fighter." - And in form, Terry W. - She goes suck at. - Yeah, if you're gonna put saying on the internet, do some research like this podcast. - Yeah, except how we always make mistakes. (laughing) - And also, there can be more than one thing about the same thing. Like, it doesn't, you know, it can't be the best one in all the others bad. - Yeah. - I, you know, like I love big, but I really like this movie too, so. - Yeah. So this one's also on Amazon. Denver Kirkpatrick. Title is "Best Body Swap Movie Featuring an Actor "from Beverly Hills Cop Five Stars." - Now, I feel like this one was written in a frat house. So one of the better body swapping movie. - Wait, wait, wait, wait. Read it like a frat boy. - An American frat boy. - Yeah. Give it your best. (laughing) - Oh God, I'm scared people. - That's so beautiful. - One of the better body swapping movie. (laughing) - Yes. I love it. Such a douche. For all the teeny bifurs who thought Freaky Friday was the shiznit, I urge you all to watch this jam and re-evaluate your priorities, bra. Oh my god, wow, that's amazing. The shiznit and bra. Wait, you didn't put bra in there? No, he wrote bra. Bra was in there. Oh my god, that's hilarious. Yeah, and this one, Wendy O. Bergman. And I won't say the title of it, 'cause I-- So Wendy, yeah, okay. Is that what it was? Yeah, I think she was a bit confused. Five stars. Oh no. We thought it was an interesting topic to explore. The characters were well conceived and complex. The pace and intrigue was compelling, looking forward to the next episodes. The title is The Americans Review. (laughing) Very good. Len, how do you use the internet? And you and your dad better think about this, because let me tell you something, Buster. You're dealing with a major ball breaker here. Time for our tenuous recommendations. Sure. So I'm not going first. Okay. Okay. Tenuous recommendations, we recommend other movies that are tenuously linked to this film. So it can be a star, it can be the same director, it can be a theme that's shared. It can be made in the same year. Yeah. Or whatever. So Brendan like fuck it up last week and just decide like, it can be as tenuous as it can possibly be. It stars a human. It was set on planet. I mean, I've done a couple of bad ones. Sorry, mate. So what, it better be fucker better than next last week's Brendan. What is it? Well, I was really. (laughing) I went really safe this week because of you guys. Yes. It's just giving me so much shit. Yep. But, yeah, there's, like you said, there's so many people in this film that went on to do a million things and good things. Yeah. Fred Savage. Like, is it Fred? No, Fred Savage. Fred Savage. Yeah. Fred Savage. Like, I didn't realize, but this guy does a lot of TV series directing a lot. Yeah. But also, like. Please tell me you're not going to recommend Daddy Daycare. (laughing) I cried in that movie. Really? Yeah. This is my real emotional part, isn't it? Okay. You know, when the little kid's like, "Dad, I did it." Or something, I don't know. I can't remember. But I definitely cried. That's actually, yeah, yeah. Well, I was going to say, like, Richard Kine as well. That's the guy that you were trying to think of on the sleaze bags. Yeah. So many good people, but I feel like they're all too obvious. So. (laughing) Okay. Yeah. But the villain, what was her name? I'm trying to look it up. Suzy Kertz. Suzy Kertz. Yeah. I just didn't want to do a cool TV show. Like, I think everyone's seen, you know, that sort of thing. So I've chosen True Stories, which is a movie written and partly directed, I think, by David Byrne. And it's like the talking-- I'm talking his. Yeah, the talking heads movie. Have you guys seen this? What is it called? True Stories. I've seen that. And is there another one? Stop making sense. Well, yeah, that's like a live performance one. Whereas True Stories is actually-- Sit in a small town. Yes. Yeah, I have seen it. Yeah. And so I don't think it's for everyone, but I feel like it's one of those films which, you know, it could just sort of fade away. But I think there's something really beautiful about it. It's-- some people think it's being very condescending and mean. But I feel like it's sort of almost just this nice look at a period of time, a period of life in America on it, and all that sort of thing. And it's got these eccentric characters. And one of them of which is her as this woman who sits in bed and has like robots feeding her food while the music video plays and stuff. So I think it's worth a watch. If you're not looking for a movie, but you're just looking for something interesting, there's a lot of sort of ideas and stuff that are thrown around that I really enjoy. So I'm going with True Stories. Good job. I used to work at an art house video store, and we had that on VHS there. And it was worn out. People were always hiring it. Oh, really? I like to get that. That's cool. Yeah. It was generally guys that look like you. Maybe you came and hired it. All right. That's enough of that frivolity? No. All right. What's yours? I'm going to get in your face as if it's not good. Yeah. So I even wrote down the-- I feel like I was getting a little bit basic bitch with mine. Yeah. Like, I don't know-- I mean, is this a test of how cool you are and your film knowledge? Yes. Or is it just judging you? It's like-- But like, I really like Goldie Horn first one. It's cool. Guys, all right. That was a good recommendation. OK. So I had to resist the urge. My initial thought was I was going to go crappy father connection Christmas time. I was going to do hook. Oh, yeah. But I didn't do that. But I still feel like I can't make it at points, because I talked about it. And then there was the obvious first time was a rich one, hi. But I am trying to get a bit more creative. So I am doing four rooms. Oh, yeah. Have you seen that? I did. I actually saw that film in an open air film festival in Malta. So it has a special place. Oh, my God. Bragg. Humble Bragg. Yeah, no, so good. That sounds great. Have you seen it, Runder? I have. Yeah, it's great. Cool. So it's for people that haven't seen it. There's like four different stories and four different directors, including Tarantino and Robert Rodriguez. And the cast is crazy. I wrote some down. It's got Madonna. I own a sky, Tim Roth, Lily Taylor, Selma Hayat, Kathy Griffin, Antonio Banderas, there's all these stories that kind of interweave with each other. It's set in an old hotel. It's falling to pieces. Yeah. And there's like witchcraft and hijinks and infidelity. And it was actually for those who are a fan of the Spy Kids films. It's actually the-- like, Spy Kids is a spin-off of four rooms. Yeah, right. What? Yeah. It's playing the same character. He's playing the same character. How about that? In that storyline, like, Robert Rodriguez did that segment in it and based by kids on that segment. So in the segment, it's about them hiding a dead hooker. Yeah. And it became like a kid's franchise. Oh, Lily. Now that's cool. So did I do a good one? Yes. Cool. Yeah, I know cinema things. I used to work at that art house video store. When we did watch that film at that Tarantino Festival, it was like in a town square in the capital of Malta Valetta. It was like all these ancient churches all around it whenever and then halfway through the film. I don't know if it was-- if it was a sex worker or just a random girl, but she walked in front of the screen, pulled her top off, waved her boobs around and said, now it's a blue movie, which is like a-- Yeah. It's like a porn, eh? Now it's a blue movie and then runs off. And this is when Paul knew he was gay. There's nothing down there. No movement at all. All right. So I'm actually going to recommend a TV show. So in the late '90s, ABC actually commissioned Kevin Smith to make an animated version of Clirks. And it lasted, I think, six episodes. They aired two of them and canceled, and they were out of order, which made no sense because episode two of the series is actually a flashback episode or episode one. They decided to do just like a flashback episode in the second episode. And it's actually very good that one of the episodes is fantastic. It's for the best episode of all of them has Judge Ryan Hold playing himself. But because his name's Judge Ryan Hold, he's playing a judge. Judge Judge Ryan Hold. He's done that a few times now. Yeah. And there's a whole sequence where he's going around, like shoving bananas and people's exhaust pipes. Like in Billy Hills, Colin. Amazing. It's a hilarious series. Very like-- I don't know. Nowadays, we could still call it "under scene." I feel like it's probably a bit more available than it used to be. I remember back in the day, I had to import the DVD set from America. There was no other way to get it. Definitely worth seeking out. It's like six, 20 minute episodes. If you're a fan of Kevin Smith before he kind of went off the rails, definitely worth seeking. But he was really sick just recently. So he can cast-- I still love Kevin Smith. Yeah. And he can keep making terrible podcast-related movies forever. It will never take away from how fantastic it is that in movies are. I'll still watch "Messport." Yeah. I'll watch it, even though Tusk and-- Was it Tusk the last one? Joga Hose. Joga Hose was physically painful to set it through. Sorry, Kevin. Yeah. We love you still. Yeah. I'm sure you're listening. It's funny. With a lot of his "Kevin Smith" stuff, it's never sort of appreciated at the time. I don't know if you-- Over the years. No, no, no, I'm definitely not talking about that. But you know, like, "Clurks" wasn't-- it was kind of saved by the fans. You know, I think "Clurks"-- Successful. As far as those kind of films go, it was successful. But then everybody hated "Morats" and it was a big flop. But then it got saved by people buying the video or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. See it. Definitely check out "Clicks" the animated series. Good night, my favorite man. Take care of each other. So next episode, we're going to have another first for the podcast. We are going to be doing an Australian movie. Oh, hey, hey. That's all excited. I'll be-- It was the episode. So yeah, get out your meat pies and your-- - Lamington? - Lamington? - I was a vegetarian. (laughing) - And 'cause we're gonna be watching the 1996 film dating the enemy. - Oh yeah, so excited. - We guide Pierce and Claudia Carvin. So yeah, look at her. - Carvin can't wait to learn who she is. - Oh my God, really? - You don't know who Claudia Carvin is? - Well, I will in two weeks. (laughing) - I'm outraged. She's a national treasure. - Yeah. - She's Australian TV royalty. - Oh. - Don't you watch the fucking vlog here. - This is the gang off on Brennan show. (laughing) Sorry, Brennan. - All right, so Brennan, if people wanna find us on the internet and contact us, where are they looking? - Yes, if you want to see how hideous keyboard player in vice versa is. - So you can go to Facebook or Twitter page and I'll have pictures up and you can find all those things. You can find this podcast, you can email us, all those details from our website, which is www.theswapcastpodcast.com. And if you're on Twitter, handle is the swap cast, same if you're on Facebook, just come and find us and say hello. - Yeah, we wanna hear from you. We have got a fair mail, which we love. - Make requests. - Make requests. - Make requests. - All the things we said wrong. - We're not regret saying that. - Yeah, yeah, if your letter's good, we'll read it out. So, we've decided if we get 100 light or reviews on iTunes, we're going to be doing the film face off. - But face off, yes. - If you wanna hear about face off, - Yeah, can we go? - Apparently that's a thing that lots of people want. We're just assuming it's going to encourage everyone to be able to. - What is that? I don't know what's behind that, anyway. You said everyone loves face off. Let's have a lot of John Roofans. (laughing) - All right, so that's it for another week of Swapcast. I was Paul Mitzi. - I was Brendan Levi. - And I was Lucy Thomas. Thanks for listening. - And I still am. - Tata. - Bye. - Bye. - Bye. (soft piano music) - So yeah, thanks for listening. Swapcast is hosted by me, Paul Mitzi, and edited by Brendan Levi. Our theme song was written and performed by John Marco of Two Creative and featuring Lucy Thomas. And it was recorded at Browntown Studios.