Vibes From The Madonna Rave with Jake Cornell | 87

- Peyton. - Yeah, what's up? - I don't think people realize how hard it is to be a morning show warrior. - My mother does. - Well, yeah. Every mom loves everything on Apple TV. - Yeah. - Including myself. Mother, she would talk. - Well, only got one Emmy nomination if you can believe that. - What? - I know. - What? - And I'm always saying it. - And I just earned an Emmy right there for pretending to be shocked. (laughs) - I'm sorry for-- - I'm trying to understand how people see, how Greta Lee was exposed by her own AI chatbot for having an affair in front of a live audience at like some sort of up-fronts style event. And guess who she was having an affair with? - Tell me. - Marianne Cotiard's Black Husband. - Black Husband. - Who was an artist who lives in a loft. That happens. And they had sex, and she had a crazy voice over about it. - Oh my God. And there was nothing for her. - It's disgusting. - And she-- - In Trump America. (laughs) - Anyway. - And the other snubs are the surprises for you. - Yeah, I'll say. I'll say-- - You can get other snubs. - Neighbors on HBO. - Oh, you love that. You got the hat, right? - Yes, I did. - The merch. - Yes, I did. Yes, I love it. As someone who has a neighbor, well, a landlord drama. Neighbor drama. I love that show. It's so good, it's so underrated. And yeah, that's kind of it. Well, I was happy for Ariana Maddox. And that's a foreshadow. Surprise, will we talk about Levi and later? I was happy for Greg Salter. - Oh, yeah, that was fab. - Yeah, yeah. Gosh, she makes me laugh. And then, and that's a clip watching. 'Cause I haven't even watched hacks. I just watched the clips of Meg Salter being funny with Paul. But I can't wait to press play. - Yeah. - And then, who else was I excited for? You know what show I got into? Because my brother and mom told me to watch it. - What? - Paradise. - Oh, that's it. - The video. - Yeah, okay, it's really good. There's like two seasons out, I watched it when I was in LA. And I was like, you know what, like your brother, well, do you know when someone you don't trust recommends you a show? And you have to see, you say, oh, well, nothing left to lose. And I press play and I actually had to give him his flowers. - Well, that doesn't happen with the morning show somehow. That's crazy. Anyway, I will say, Desi from Girls, government name, did not get an Emmy nomination. But he does have me waiting for you. And his wife is like, here she go. She's starting. - Oh, she's working. - You know what, don't worry, it's not him. It's just Desi from Girls, specifically. - Right, it's not like, I'm not going for your Emmy. - Unless it's in character. - From the bear, right? Or from something else, I'm missing you from the bear. - Yeah, okay, yeah. - It was just, I owe this year, yeah. My sister. - Yeah, I was gonna say. - Actually, this head, this bandana is from my bear Halloween costume in 2022. Look it up. - I sure thought you did that. - I love them black old day white boys. We got one. - And that's all the violent for you. - Yeah. - Loving me, Virginia. - We doing a lot of foreshadow today. 'Cause I know there's one person that's like, enough of the love I am. We're out of Fiji. - Thank God. - Okay, first fight out. Thank God. - Well, I'm still there emotionally, okay. - I'm not. - I'm ready to be done. - Oh my goodness. If you could have seen me waking up in the middle of the morning to watch Love Island finale. - I didn't have a spoiler for me last night. Thank God. - Okay, good. And I just was like, get me through this show. - Yeah. - Well, we had to fast forward. But, you know, we need to talk about, we were good and tried to fit in this episode, but we don't have time. So, but we will be, so go back next week 'cause we wanna talk about Maddie's secret of film you have to see. Go see it so that next week, we're gonna talk about it together. - Yes. 'Cause we don't, we wanna include some spoilers, are we? - I saw it on Sunday and I walked into the theater and John really followed me on Instagram. - Yeah, and we were having some discourse about Maddie and being a baddie and that being like. (laughing) - Maddie being a baddie. I mean it on a shirt. - Yeah, wait. - Literally. - Maddie was a baddie. - Yeah. - The perfume also smells kinda good. The actual Maddie's secret. - Oh, wait. - I need to, yes, they sent me that. - Me too, and I was like, what is this? - Yeah. - And then I smelled it after watching it to be like, oh, let me run that back. So, okay, as I met, Maddie's secret and the invite. - Yes, yes. - Which you wanna talk about. - Which your homework will do ours will meet up on Zoom. (laughing) But before that, are you looking for a safe space for your secret celebrity opinion? Do you need someone who understands your latest internet obsession? - We are Decay Long Best Friends who connect overfaceing and discussing all things pop culture. - We're here for a stop after that TMZ push alert. - From Higher Ground Audio, I'm Peyton Dicks. - And I'm Hunter Harris. - And this is, let me say this. - And I've been saying it. ♪ I'm a sadist, I'm a sadist ♪ - Jake? - Ben. - Hunter? - Do you undo that with your hands? - This, you're safe here. Put your shoulders down. We won't kill you. Come on side, I won't talk to you. (laughing) Okay, I said all about just to say, are you a lover or a hater? - I'm a, right now, okay. I'm, when I'm, you know what the answer is? When I'm with my lovers, we hate together. - Oh. - And that's inspired. - I'm not in here so much for that. - Yeah. If I catch myself hating alone, it's like that feels like loser behavior. I'm like release it. But when you're in community hating, that's community. - Yeah, you said one, two, three, please so many. - Yeah. - We already built community. I got here, Hunter gave me blinding wipes. I'm good. If you get shiny, if you get shiny, we're gonna hit me up. - Yeah, you're welcome. - I feel, yeah. So I will hate when I'm with people. - Community building is so important. And we do that every week here. - Yeah. - Do you know what I mean? I've talked about this. I don't know if I've talked about this on a podcast before, but this is my secret society of community hating. Do you know what it is? It's really beautiful. This is a thing I've developed with a couple of my friends. Right now, my friend, I have it with the most is Hannah Pilka's. We have this concept. We have this concept called the list. And you have to keep it small between like, it should be for you too. And no one else, you may already have this. - Okay. - Because if you make it too big and you can make a public, it gets problematic. But basically all it is is you take, whenever there's someone that comes into like the public eye or into your circle, your communal circle, and something in your spirit in your gut is like, no. But they've done nothing like specific or egregious to be like, hey, this was fucked up. You tell your person who holds your list. So you could hold each other's list. And they're like, hey, I'm just telling you, like, Peyton's on my list. And the purpose of it is, the purpose of it is, on the day when they do do something fucked up, you have one person who knows, like, I he saw it. - Yeah, yeah. - And you get that validation of like, it's like, it's like a citation for your own intuition. - Oh, yes. - Oh my god. - But you can't, if you do that publicly, it becomes really problematic 'cause then you're just like accusing people of being bad for no reason, right? So it's like, it has to be like a trial reason. - It's never for no reason. - No, but sometimes it's like beyond words. But it's like, it's just, I'm telling you, something's off. And like, when you get it, there's nothing better than when you get like a, I mean, it's awful 'cause it usually means that someone publicly did something egregious. - Right. - And so it is, it's better sweet thing. You're like, hey, that that happened to someone, but I'm really proud of myself for calling that that person was gonna do something. - I'm gonna say, I'm gonna start my list. Sharing it exclusively, generally Curtis and Jason Bateman. - Oh, it's celebrities. I thought we meant local. - Oh, well, local hires. - Yeah. - Yeah, local hires. - Just like, kind of petty people. - I can't share that publicly. Although I listen, when you roll out, it's a scroll that goes around the whole room. So the natural follow-up question is, what side are you? - Scorpio. - Where is we go together? - Yeah, Victor. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - 'Cause I was like, in a good way, you're right. - In a very good way. - Oh, in a very good way. - I think I know that you're a Leo. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yeah. - And I think that's a beautiful pairing, too, Taurus. - Yeah, Taurus and Leo are very powerful and very petty, if anyone's want to know that. - Oh, sorry. - I would say we're sort of, I would say, if you, like Leo Scorpio Taurus is sort of like the charmed ones of hating. - Like, that's a powerful triumphant. - Yeah. And there are other signs that are just too loud with their hating. And like, we're quite as concerned with that. - Oh, oh, well, that's the thing about Scorpio is that like, like, our hating is mostly silent. And our revenge is also silent. Our revenge is also silent. Someone was like, do you like revenge? I was like, yeah, but it's different 'cause like, I'm currently getting revenge on people that wronged me in like, oh, nine. - Yeah. - Like, it's like, you really play the long game. - Do you, like, do you have a long game? Like, you never forget if you've been wronged. - Oh, there's like no world. We're all for, I'll forget a lot of things, but like, if someone's truly wronged me, I'll remember, especially. And if I do forget the second I see them, I'll be like, oh, yeah, that one time. - Wow. - Yeah, I love that. I love that. I'm the same way. This is gonna say, the older I get, the better I am, it's around with people I like. It's like, I get wronged less. - Yeah. - Yeah. - And that's how you matured him. - Like in high school, you're getting wrongs left and right, but also, and like in college. - And you're wrong in people left and right. - But that's called growth. You have to do what you glow through what you go through. - Totally. If you're constantly getting wronged in like, in your 20s and then in your 30s, I think you do have to look in the mirror 'cause it's like, yeah. - Who do you keep around? - Yeah, who's in your circle? - What are your standards? - I mean, who you are around is who you become? - Did your mom tell you that once? - That's true. - And she was always right when she didn't have, you know? - That's really true. - She was. Okay, I wanna talk about my favorite news show right now, which is called The World Cup. - Okay, we can talk about that. - Are you a World Cup diva? - I wouldn't claim diva, but I'm aware of it. I mean, the best thing about New York is that anything that's happening you're absorbing by who you are around is who you become. So I do have like World Cup coming in. I've watched some of the games, not all. - Okay. - But I do care. - Yeah. - I did have a really embarrassing moment last night where I was at a gay dance party. - Yeah, it's exclusive. - And we were with my like, gay guy friend group. And they were like, they were like, we were planning a dinner to all, like when we can all hang out next. - Yeah. - And they were like, "Oh, we'll do back here dinner party Sunday night." And I was like, "Oh yeah, let me check my calendar." And I was like, "Oh, it's World Cup final." And they all looked me like, "We're done with that." Like, we're not doing that. - Like, it's been too much force. - Like, take that drag off, first of all. - Yeah, it was like, they were like, "Oh, you're gonna be straight - Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, would I watch it at home, like, absolutely not. But, like, did I watch, like, the nicks at the bars and, like, being commute? The nicks, I cared about more because it was New York. - Yeah. If New York was in the world cup and doing well, like, yeah, I'd be there. But, I still do enjoy, like, being out of bar. - Yeah. - You know what I mean? - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - I just love thinking about, like, New York versus the world. - No, that's what it is. - That's what it is, that's what it is. - Yeah, I think that's what we went in, that's what it is. - I don't know why, but, like, I know in my soul that if Mom Donnie was a soccer player, he'd be the goalie. Like, he'd have that different little jersey that's, like, the cute one with the long sleeves. - The different little one, yeah. He's not like other boys. - He's not. I did see that one photo of him in shorts that did a lot to me in a bad way. I did not like that. - Oh, I was like, what? - Yeah, I did not like that. - No, we have to keep a really healthy relationship. - Yeah, I'm like, who are you rooting for then to win? Who do you want to take it old? - I was rooting for Mexico, but now they're out, right? So who do we have to have Argentina, England? - France, Spain, Spain, yeah. - It's like, okay, like, that's tough, kind of. In just like, it's like three conquers, and then, like, the nonsense. - It was like, it's complicated, yeah. And, like, you know, that's-- - I mean, I say the woke Olympics online of people being like, oh, so now, you don't, now, now, Argentina's like the best one. Come on, guys. And like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Now, let's open a book. - It is crazy to be at a bar, though, with my friends, like, googling, like, which team has the most Muslims? Who has the most immigrants? Like, I gotta find something for my eyes. - No, it's really hard to, like, land with that. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I think it's kind of like, happy for whoever happens for. (laughing) You tell me this, if there was, if any team had a gay player, I'd be, like, on the map for them, but, obviously, he'd rather be the ones that hockey. - Well, but could be a little bifurbed by with Jude and Holland. - Sure. - I've seen those fancams and keep sending them to me. (laughing) - Oh, they're amazing. - It's the whole, like, it's coming home culture, though, and, like, I hate Harry Kane so much. Nothing about him, I like. - Who's that? - Okay, right, exactly. He's, like, the captain of the British team. He has top-of-the-ears, but not bottom-be-nears. He has a hairline, it looks like-- - If he wins, I bet bottom-be-nears are coming in, if they win the cup. - He's 32, but, like, a rough 32. - But that's even, like, passing for 45. - No, not when Jude Bellingham is, like, looking, like, he should be on a CWTV show. - How old is he, though? - He was born in 2003, I think. - That's, that's-- - So that's different. - That's something that you can't. - Imagine being born before-- - Post-9/11? - No, like, being born before, like, Nicole came and gave birth to the world. - That's what I was gonna say second, actually. - Yeah. - That was, like, my second cultural reference. - I was gonna bring it to the sea, yeah. - I was confused 'cause the sentence gave birth to the world, means a different thing than what you meant to it. - I meant birth to movie. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Like, if you watch the tape back, I'm, like, loading. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Like, we're right. - I was like, 'cause she is mother, so she did birth the world, but why was, I was like, I was like, there's a date to it. - Yeah, okay. - Oh, the movie. - But why not both also? - I guess she could have mentioned the both ways. - Nicole, there's sort of a beautiful thought of, like, maybe Nicole gave birth to the world and she gave birth to the world. - And I'm always saying that. - And I'm literally all the same. - So we write that down. So I'm talking about that down a quick. (laughing) - Yeah, wait a minute, Hunter, who are you rooting for? - France, of course. - Oh, yes. - Jesui. - Oh, I guess I should. - I guess I should root for France. Actually, no, I'm 100% rooting for France now because I'm going in September to France to two, say it with three, one, two, three, Ceaseling, Dion. So the vibes will be really high if they won. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And like, you know. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And I was a New York City waiter for like 10 years. So like, I have a rough history with French people. So I need to sort of. - Wake that up and thank God. 'Cause you know, there's nothing I hate more than a person that find out they never worked retail or never worked a waiting job. - Yeah. - Then you're not in my circle. - Okay, listen, I was in R.A. And that was in town. - That was a different form of trauma. - You got it. - Okay, how was it? - Wait, I didn't realize you. You've never worked a waiting job or a retailing. No, retailing, oh no. Actually, Hunter's the only exception to that. (laughing) You know, Hunter's out of due problem or when she gets hungry and she ain't dealing with one customer. (laughing) - You know what, that's fine and fair. - There is. - For the safety of others. That's okay. - There is like the rare person where it's like, you have that one where you're like, oh, you should be like, not you. - Yeah. (laughing) - Because his name is like all love. But like, okay, I see that. That's why I knew it. - I think if you were gonna do it, I think you could have tore it up in a Hollister when you were 16. - Oh my god, no, I was like, not cute enough when I was 16. - Okay, I don't believe that. - That would be you now. That ever probably be, that ever probably be. - Yes, I do have a lot of allergies to men who were ever gonna be coloned still. However, what sort of do you work at? What was your retail life? - You were rating. - Remember to vote. - Remember to vote. - Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. - Yeah. - Okay, bisexual. (laughing) - So, I did, I mean, I did, I bartended in restaurant all through college and then in New York until I went full-time comedy, but in high school, I was a Ben and Jerry Scooper, was OG. Then we did. - Oh, I love that. - Oh, your arms are tall. - Yeah, well she gained 35 pounds than she had to lose it. Like, 'cause you can eat that ice cream. Yeah, and then, and then, but my retail stores were American Eagle. - Oh my god, 'cause you're hot. - Of course. - And then, and then, not me nodding when you said. (laughing) - Well, yes, let's just see how it is. - Well, but not to a crazy brag, but from American Eagle, I got scouted for Kenneth Cole. - You whore. - Outlet. - But still, but still. - And then I did, I did Kenneth Cole for like two summers in college. - Wait, that's hot. - Yeah. - It was good. American Eagle is crazy 'cause it is a cult. When you get there, they make you watch a video. - Yeah. - About like why their jeans are better than like every other Gina invented, which like we, as like people with brains and experiences in life, like no, is not true. - Well, Sidney Sweeney. - Yeah, Sid, well, - Sidney Sweeney would famously work there. - Yeah. - I was like, I'll come for you. - 'Cause she makes a denim and she's like, you know, she's not a good weaver. But, but they're like, they do this whole presentation where it's like, it's like who the American Eagle customer is and they are represented by the mannequins. So the men are Brandon and the girl mannequins are Katie's. And then like they go to Ocean Side University or something like like it's like a, they go to, there's like a, like coastal, coastal California University. It's like a fake like beachy university. - Oh my God. - And there's like, there's like a narrative. - This reminds me of the six bells. The Audrey Gelman store in Cobble Hill. That's based off of a fake town that now is like a real hotel. - Okay. - Yeah. It's giving something like that too. - I've heard of the six bells. Is it called the six bells hotel? - I don't know. I think it's called in like an inn technically. I don't know, I don't know. - Oh, if she's gonna open it, she's gonna go ahead and call it an inn. - Yeah, yeah. Of course. She's gonna go ahead and call it an inn. - It's not gonna get you. - Wow, that was more information that I planned on learning today. But I'm really glad. - Yeah. - I'm like, oh, can I pivot to something so random? - Going back to you, going to France, Selindion, favorite Selindion moment. - Oh, not song moment. - Moment. You can do a song too. We've got time, but. - So my favorite, okay. So controversially, controversially, one of my favorite Selindion songs ever is taking chances. Which is, if you don't know it, it is come back into like a little bit more popularity because it's like one of the main songs in Titanic. But before, it was like one of the more random ones. First of all, the album cover. You've never seen anyone wear more hair in your life. Like, she's, it's floating up. And I think that's because if it wasn't suspended, it would snap her neck. Like, it's so heavy. Like, the amount of hair on her head is crazy. - We actually talked about that one. It's like, how of true diva has a lot of hair. - Yeah. - You got volume. - Yeah. - Some of these girls is too far. - That's holding Phoebe Bridger's back. - And I believe there was a moment when she. - Go on, go laugh at that. My Phoebe Bridger's show? - I am not. They are. - Wait, sorry. I think I missed it. Can we walk through it again? Take it again. - No, no, no. - Can I. - I stand with Phoebe Bridger. - Phoebe Bridger is a little bit of a blind spot for me. Can I be honest? - Oh, and keep it that way. - Oh, okay. - Keep it that way. - And if you ever felt sadness, then you should find her. - Okay. - And then you're enjoying her. - And then actually land at Siza. Like, get back on the board and stop. - Well, they go together. Don't piss Siza again. Siza, she'd be online. - Oh my two. - To be in the kind of. - I know, I know. - I do love their song together. - Yeah, yeah. - They love that. - They love each other, yeah. - Yeah, that's a good song. - Two sad girls. - My favorite Celinejima on moment, I think it might be that song. She's singing, but it might not be. But there is a time and on the view. And she was performing when she played air guitar. And I said, this crazy lady. - This crazy girl. She's so bad with chips on her head. - I know. - Yes. - Complimentary AF, just by the way. - Yeah, she kind of looks like that woman. That woman is like if you mix Celinejima and Dorsi partner. - Kind of like, yeah, face problem. Got it. - Do you have a favorite Celine moment? - The shoe moment. It taught me a lot. When she was like, a girl will fit into any shoe. She will make it work. And I said, let me stretch, I was like, all right. Because she was like in like a size six to a size nine to a size nine to a size, like she's like, if I love the shoe, I will make it work. And that's why love. - I see why she and log go together. - Yeah. - That really makes sense. - She was like, if I wanted I got it. - Yeah. - It's like, anyway. - I just was really inspiring. I was like, ow, but. - No, that's really lovely. - Okay, I want to pivot musically to a woman named Madonna. - Yeah. I love the new album, Confessions 2. - I was there Saturday night. - I was going to ask you one to the hundred. - What was it? - Like. - It was like, first of all, how did you get a ticket? - Okay. - You know a gay guy. - Yeah. I know a gay guy. I actually, so okay. I know I got tickets from, I ended up having multiple tickets at the end of the episode of the episode. You got to throw everything out there and see what happens. - That's in your popular. - Yeah. - That's kind of a popular man. - Can I be really gosh? - Yeah. - I ended up getting to cut the line. - Love. - That was kind of the best thing. That was the best thing. And you know that people, and it was really beautiful because I will say the line, the community and the line. was amazing like people were playing speakers and dancing and when we realized we were going to get to cut and we were cutting there was a mixture of like hatred and like happy for you vibes and then one of my friends loudly said this is the best feeling in the world and I said that's not helping. He was so excited. I was like you can't say that when the people can hear. Like that can happen. But it was it was so incredible being in the room was so fun when she came out on stage it was like really electric. They did a really good job of mixing it where it was like there were let like it wasn't just like young gay guys who are into Madonna. There were like old like people from like the 80s there was like people from the 80s. Sorry like I'm forgetting any of their names but like club kids from the 80s where they were like oh it's a big deal that they're there you know what I mean. And then like people like there was like there was like older Madonna fans in like Madonna merch from like different tours they had seen being like I'm so excited to be here like it was like really special um and like the shout-alongs the mo like I cannot express to you when the entire club screamed I run into Debbie Maesar. I think that's when Lindsay went out. Like I think like and then after being in the smoking section after and finding out Lindsay was gone and trying to explain to everyone that Lindsay Graham had died and then being like we know and trying to explain to people gay guys on drugs that it wasn't Mitch McConnell it was Lindsay Graham. But he's a nice fight of my life and out a full hour later when we're walking out we were walking down the street to catch an uber after like we'd been talking about it my boyfriend goes oh Lindsay Graham I was like bitch yes like I've been trying to get this to your head like it was crazy but no um it was really fun and it was like it was gay in all the correct ways like the only alcohol available is absolute vodka totally totally sponsored by absolute and so like you were getting her absolute vodka cocktail in a mr branded plastic cup at the Madonna concert it was really good yeah that's so like they also built they had it the inflatable legs so you walked through the vagina yeah and then they rebuilt the from the good for the sole video that forest with all the lasers I was going to say the design you had to walk through the forest to get into like the main club it was really cool yeah they did a really cool like design work at knockdown like I feel like the things that they do with lighting is actually really like exciting and fun in a way that if one if you can appreciate it if you're not on drugs and if you are on drugs especially if you're on drugs yeah no I mean I've had a lot of really beautiful I saw like that place can when they're doing it right they can do it right yeah you can also you can also end up in like a night circle of hell there it really depends often yeah but I'm so glad you went I like I was very happy I like reached out to every gay guy said this night's for you the night for you even working your ass off for this moment you worked retail for this moment exactly it's your number one like diva music icon of all time I'm gonna be honest and say no like I'm a Gaga's my I'm a Gaga girl like and I always will be but I love Madonna like love Madonna and I am to go back to the album it is I think it's so good yeah I think it's unexpectedly good is that bad to say I didn't I don't know I didn't know what to expect I guess well because there I think that the work she'd put up a four people were like this is gonna be a flop yeah and I think to follow up with confessions it was like kind of a high bar yeah but I know it's really a dance music I feel like yeah perfectly fit yeah it was interesting I listened to I did listen to a 16 hour Madonna history podcast living up to the release to like do my research it was also because I had like a long drive so it was like a perfect thing okay but um yesy select did this band split in series where it was like four four hour episodes about like every album and going through like her history and her public persona which kind of set up the framework for me that there's always kind of been this cycle with her that started because she is like kind of the first pop star to continue being a pop star past like 35 as a pop star like she's oh there's always in this narrative of like she's old she's lost it it's bad now like and it has kind of only gotten worse and some albums have been like like more in retrospect as like they've gone on you know and she's always had to fight this narrative of like well you're flop now and she's like I'm actually not looking my career yeah so I was I was like I I was hoping there was like a fear among among some people I think that like Confessions 2 is just going to kind of be like B-sides from Confessions 1 that aren't as good because that's why they didn't get put on you know what I mean but it's clear that no this was like an album that was worked and like the second she put out that teaser video and I heard the clip of Danceteria I was like oh it's gonna be going we're gonna be in a good time that's so but I like the I like the Madonna lore the Madonna like Diva lore also a Leo I think I feel like Madonna like I'm not a big Madonna and musically but I do feel like I love her as a cultural figure and always will and like she's always someone that is bringing up like maybe like niche names from like club kids from 80s and then also like new artists now yes that like people will sleep on her don't realize and like uses her fame to I think and most of the time like really help I don't know raise up awareness like trans artists who are like are you into or poor and like she was giving out at her live shows she was using out pamphlets about AIDS before the government was acknowledging AIDS wow like she's she's legit you know what I mean like because she was there I mean all her friends died yeah yeah and like you also she's like there's elements of that in like a lot of her music like the painting of that and stuff and I think yeah I will never I feel like if if you were like not going to respect her as an art like you there's one thing to be like her music is not to my taste I don't listen to it that often but you know respecters and artists it's like well that's like a flop in yeah yeah yeah that's like not yeah yeah to these be sitting to so I always just like that in a woman no matter what I'm like totally Curtis oh god here we go here when I've really found a way to take it there's her she's got two straights this episode don't even trace direct hits red dawn beforehand um what are you watching now did you guys watch Housewives of Rhode Island oh we just saw it yeah well I'm midway you're oh yes I finished and I went to the Costa Migos suite at the World Cup match between France and Sweden and saw Rosie and Kelsey in real life wow I'm I went I got to go to the premiere and I met them all which was you have any face I I'm in a really hard place because you did you see all the liked tweets do yeah yeah yeah I'm in a really hard place I just want well I love our lives yeah what do you expect I guess I knew here's the thing is that you add conducts because I don't know so they like someone kind of combed all of their Instagrams and not just like for like follows or things they posted but like here are like it was actually like memes posted by like the president other like Republicans that were like not just like oh like they voted for but like really cruel and hateful and mean and nasty in a way where I was like oh this might really affect my enjoyment of the show yeah I think it will um but when I was at the premiere I really Alicia was like really really nice to me and like really fun to talk to I talked with Joellen for a long time Dolores was pretty incredible Dolores there was do you know Marty Gold Cummings the he's a New York drag queen um so so funny was there out of drag had met Dolores before we were talking with Dolores um and Dolores and Dolores knew Marty was a drag queen and Marty was like I love your dress she was in this like beautiful like kind of like lavender sequence gown and she was like do you want to when I'm done with that do you she goes she goes he goes I love your dress goes do you think you fit in it and he goes yeah I can make that fit she goes do you want it when I'm done I'll send it to you tomorrow and then Marty wore it to the jellicle ball premiere that okay that is community and that's like when I thought Dolores said that I said well I love you forever for that yeah um but I adored all of that like I adored the ones I met which was Joellen Alicia Dolores and Liz it was interesting because I remember Liz said and it I was like because she Liz was like so fun wonderful in the premiere I was like I was like Liz you were so great and she went everyone's gonna hate me in a few weeks and look what happens which is crazy oh well I don't feel like people really she claims that was Liz or was it all of them like it was it equal no so Liz actually this is the thing that's sad because you know Liz left the show oh no I didn't Liz laughed she asked it after I know we all did and I don't think anything she was like that bad I think she I mean she definitely was like with the Joellen thing like that right and I think she had a hard like I think she had a hard time like ignore like she would I mean I think she just had a hard time regulating her emotions like she would get really reactive at times yeah but I agree it wasn't like that egregious yeah on a housewife scale like nothing is like but basically she's the sad thing is she left the show and then it turned out she was like one of the only Democrats it's like her and Rosie so the people and everyone was on the other people's side and then they found out their politics and now the internet is very much attempting to be like we should have been on Liz's side but now it's too late she's got it's like a whole thing yeah was she like asked to leave do you know or just no she chose to yeah she looked at yeah she chose which is sad I thought I mean she's like kind of the anchor like the big she was like the girl of the show yeah and I think I really like Alicia but then she took a while for to like show up I mean she's I think they also maybe took production of a minute to figure out how to like highlight her like how funny she is yeah yeah because she is like one of the funniest people it's like everybody on television no and on at the reunion when she's like I don't know I just like talk to this girl who has all my money and I have to ask her and her husband is like so that's actually the bookkeeper like she's like well I don't want to have to like ask a girl to like get my mind or everyone thought that bill was a bill was a financial abuser who's controlling her and in terms of that she actually refuses to learn how any of the systems work the the point when she's talking about the financial advisor she actually says one of the funniest things is he goes she has a financial advisor who she can talk to you did get anything with money and she goes I don't want to text a girl named Sarah And I actually get. - That's one of them. - And then literally, he's like a pizza mama, that's like how they have money, and he's like, okay, I have the papers here, I'll give you 51, 30% of pizza mama, and she's like, I don't wanna like, she's like, I don't want 50%, I just want like, to be Maui. - And he's like, and he's like, sign the paper, and he's like, so mad. - Yeah, and she has Chinese that she seems. - Oh, I think she's like, I think she's like, I remember like, my memory of her is like, like her looking up at me, that's like, she was 88. - She was 88. - Oh, I love that. - I hope so. - She's just like, yeah. - I love that you, like Rhode Island, and that you were an early adopter, like I'm from Rhode Island. - I was just kind of transparent. - I'm from Cranston. - Oh, wow. - Is that the area that this is? - That's where Liz and Joelle are. That's where Liz and Kelsey live. I think Joelle is in Warwick. It's definitely where Liz lives. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Liz and Cranston. - Oh, but Liz is close to home. - Do you know any of them by any chance? - Like through-- - So, I do DM with some of them sometime. - Okay. - Because I met them at the thing. But I have like, like people who like, their kids go to school at Joelle. - Yeah. - But no one who's like a part, a close, like, or who's kids go to school like Joelle and kids or something like that, you know what I mean? - Oh. - But I don't know anyone who's like, a close person or friend of anyone at the class. - Wait, what do you think is like the most Rhode Island thing about you? - Oh, that's interesting. That I love gossip, probably, that I talk really fast. That I like to drink alcohol. Those are pretty big. That, like, my family is stressful. (laughs) - Yeah. - I am like, 'cause I'm from Rhode Island originally and then I moved to Vermont when I was seven and then was back and forth a lot. So, like, as I've moved to New York and gotten older and, like, become more of, like, who I think I actually am, I'm like, oh, I will always be in New York and live in New York, I love it here. But, like, my base is that I am like a New England ass bitch. I'm so New England, but not Boston, but not Boston. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And that was Boston. It's different, you know? - But I love Mass. I'm like, Massachusetts is phenomenal. Boston is difficult for me. - Boston's hard, Boston's hard. - I love Mass is so funny. - I do. - You mass-hole. - I feel, I am. Well, 'cause I had a lot of friends in college that, like, lived outside of Boston. And so, I spent a lot of time going outside of Boston. I was like, well, this is, like, this is fab and fab. - Yeah, to me, Massachusetts feels like a food that you grew up eating. So, when you're friends, I don't like this. - Yeah, I get that. Like, you're not. Do you know what I mean? - Yeah. - It's like your mom wasn't making for you when you were kids. Like, why would you like it? 'Cause it is kind of bad, but like, I know it. - Okay, sorry. Do you think lobster rolls should be hot or cold? - Cold mail. - Totally. - Totally. - Yeah, I mean, so, are you hot, your hot butter? - I don't like lobster. - Okay. - But someone asked me a question recently. Yeah, I know. And as, yeah, I know. - Do you like any seafood? - Yes. Okay, I love cod. - Oh. I love salmon, obviously, I'm black. And I love, oh, what's the one with the bee? What's the bee? - It's like a fish. - A fish, yeah. - Branzino? - Yeah, I love Branzino. - Branzino is good. - Oh, you were just a classy bra. - No, I'm not. - Oh, yeah, it's Branzino. - Branzino is good. - Branzino is good. - I thought you were using, of course, I'm like, I was like, what do I do? - I was like, look, I see it, I see it. - One time this girl, one time this girl on the train looked at me, one time I was awaiting on the train. I was on the train going out to Rockaway, so I was on the train for like a long time. And this girl, next to me, who was also going to Rockaway, started talking to me and I was like, oh, I'm stuck with her, you know, a little bit, and she was so sweet if you're watching. But at one point, at one point she was, you're put a beacon, right? And I was like, no. And she went, okay cool, me neither of people think I am. And I was like, what? She didn't say, oh my god, I thought so, but me neither. It was so, it was such a, I felt like I was on the girl rollercoaster. - Wait, was she me? - Yeah. - Can I say that? That's why I love New York City. - New York City. - New York City. - New York City is the best country in the world. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - But yeah, I didn't really say Sam and was considered like a thing that all black people like. - Well, yeah, between certain years, I feel like if you grew up with a black woman between the years of like, I don't know, or like a divorce black dad, I don't know, 2006 and in '12, like that's all we ate was like Sam and every day, or if you ever dated a black man and it's like the only thing he knew was that a cook. - Is Sam and, wow. - Yeah, that's true. - And guess what? Also leave. So, yeah. What can I say? - That's all right. - Except for that gut joy pepper you fixed me up that one time. Or the version of gut you. - It was, you know, it was gut you pepper. - It was gut you pepper. And it was really good. - You flat don't cook. - No, I cook a little, but mostly I, yeah, I feel like it's more fun. Or do you live alone? - Yeah. - Yeah. I feel like it's more fun to cook for a group than it is. - 100%. - It just feels like, and then I cook it all in my day. - I conjurously hate living alone. It's like what half my standard is about right now. - Yeah. - Really? - Yeah. - Say more on that please. - I just like, well, like it's like I like people, like I'm a social person. I don't need that much a long time, especially because the way my job is right now, it's like a very solo. - Yeah. - So like I liked having the built in socialization of like having a roommate. I also like really liked my roommates. - Yeah. - Which was a partner. Like I liked that too. I don't. And like for things, yeah, like cooking alone, like sometimes, there's also something really nice about having like, like not having to make plans to socialize, like it's like, it doesn't have to be an activity. We're just like in the house, like watching TV together and like, we're like even just being on your phone side by side, you know, if you'd be like, yeah, that's nice and like it's kind of, I mean you kind of invite your friend over to do that, but like I think it's more easy to happen like when you have a roommate or when you like live with a partner. So I just don't enjoy it that much and also I think like yeah, like cooking alone is kind of, it's kind of annoying. I always say that the most degrading feeling in the world is living alone and finishing a roll of toilet paper. - Yes, it's up to me. - No, I always say that too. - Everything's up to me and I hate that. - All of me again. - Yeah. - I'm such a bottom in that way where I'm like, oh no one's coming to help, huh? - Yeah. - I guess. And I'm working on it. - Time. - Do you like living alone? - No, actually. - Really? - That's why I wanted to hear you out because I really, I'm so social too. And do you talk to yourself out loud when you're alone? - Rarely. - Oh. - No, not like. - I do. - Joke. - But I think there's like something like, yeah, I just feel like I'm, I face some people a lot like I'll like rogue call friends the time. - I'm also, yeah. - Yeah. - I'm also bad at it. Like I need to get better at it because like there's little things like I'll be like in my apartment and like be like, oh be like this is lonely and quiet and sad and like I hate those. And then I'll like go over to my boyfriend's house and hope in a loan for like five hours and there's like music playing. - Yeah. - And I'm like, oh I could have turned on music at any point in time. Like. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Never thought too much. - Like it's like shit like that. Like I'm like bad at making it nice. - Yeah. - I could make it nice. Yeah. - Yeah. - I don't know. It's really nice to live with. I don't know. I don't know. I lived with a partner too before and I really loved it, but I'd really like struggled with the layout of our apartment just like wasn't built for two people. - Totally. - And like in our, the lifestyle is that we had. So I think I would just like have to be really rich and then have like the exact lifestyle on home that I want. - I'm always saying that. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I lived with an ex and we were both working from home and so sometimes around like, I don't know, two o'clock. I'd be like, okay, so some attention please. - Yeah. - So I need some attention actually. - Yeah. - So what are you doing? - Yeah. - Yeah. - But I love living for myself. I have a time by myself. I'm sitting up, making myself laugh. I'm supposed to have my dog's Instagram making jokes. I'm like reposting like, just shit Leo would say memes. - Oh, sure. - I wouldn't be talking about that all the time. - I love him. - I just, I like to be in the mix. - I like to be in the mix. - I also like to be in the mix. I also like to be in the mix. fees or fees to pause or cancel. So no big deal if you lose a button, spill something, or just want to take a break. New U is a great value at $98 a month for any six styles. But right now, you can get $28 off your first month when you sign up with the code Lemmy. Just go to MUULY.com and enter the code Lemmy to get $28 off your first month. 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But, and then I lost it, um, price, and turnity, winners of Love Island USA. How did you know? I cried. Uh-huh. Stay crying, brother. Yeah. What's cancer season I guess? I don't know. Oh, my God. But you know how I be emotional and stuff. But they move me. They move me. He loves her so much. I love seeing their families meet and love each other so much. Yeah. Yes, yes, yes. Price is grandmother. If you're watching this, which I know you are, no, she stays online. You better call me. Go. We going out together. We doing shots, you and me. I. Oh. I'm with her. No, meet her in the club. Bad. Meet her to see a price deering bad. Like me that whole, I wonder like, would like a bottle girl in one of those signs. Yes. Yes. But I kind of want one day. Maybe for, I'm going to throw a party this summer. Like maybe you should do that. Yeah. Just as hundreds have an appointment with her. I'm not there yet. Okay. Okay. Anyway. Anyway. Um, I am so happy that price and turnity won. I do really love them together that they said I love you. Yeah. I was like, that's so sweet. And they meant it. Yeah. Because sometimes they'd be saying it. Well, you know, like if it was like a Zack or Zach and Kate, uh, do they say it? Yeah. Zach, like they had this one cutaway of him in bed saying the L word to her. And then he was like, no, I was joking. Just like my ex. You know, I watch this show kind of when I closed, because it's, it's too long. I go two eyes open. That's how I want to. I'm standing up watching the violent. Like it, like I'm the lesbian watching the Eagles being like, let's go. That was me when Bryson turned me one. Yes. But how did you feel about right or up? And I, uh, Carl? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I do. I, I'm happy that Anaya and Carl found each other. It was like a tumultuous journey. Yeah. Um, I E.K.C. However, yeah, I think Carl is like, he's so like firefighter saving a cat from a burning building. However, I'm allergic to cats. So, yeah, he's not my type. Yeah. But he's like very Prince Trump. They're very like, like Prince and Princess, which is so sweet to watch. And I mean, I was cracking up at the, like the preview told you exactly who was going to win because you saw the dates and like the setup of the dates. Like all these roses and these like, this extravagant setup and then Zuck and Kata in a swamp. And him and his Birkenstocks carrying her out from the little, I mean, not to yuck anyone. Yeah. Or maybe they love that stuff. I mean, you're going to have to hear I did fast forward through all the dates. Oh, that's fine. I didn't like go through the discourse, but I did see the setups of like what they were doing. And it was, it was like, oh, so I see who's winning and who's losing here. Yeah. And that's okay. Well, I want to talk about something controversial. Okay. Sincere and Melanie making it to the final four. Yeah. Did that surprise you? Yeah. It did. Honestly, I thought that the final four would include KC and TT. Yeah, because they have like, if you, if there are haters, you know there are lovers right nearby. People love to stand tentals behind them. Yeah. Um, with Melanie and Sincere, um, and I want to like Sincere too, which is like crazy of me, I think, but they don't need to be together. I really wanted if they won, stop the count. If they won, I would want Melanie to take the money for herself and be like, take the money and run girl. And she would never, I know. Unfortunately, like, big heart, love her down Scorpio Queen. She would like, if he needed to give her, give him 75 and keep 25, like, that's how bad it was. Girl. And I say that like, I love Melanie down. Like she became one of my besides Trinity. My, I would say, yeah, she became my second favorite girl because of how hard, yeah. Because I think she started out on my bad side. I got a little stress. And give me 10, give me 10 and then I said, Oh, you're just a Scorpio, you're just sensitive. Like that's what's actually happening. And like really, she's the way that she rides for Anaya and we do have to hold space for that one shot of her kissing what we thought was sincere and the pool turns out it was an eye. I love women so much. So their crazy stupid love is, oh, that I do stand. I love the way that she treats the other women in the villa. Yeah. I do think she really supports them and rides so many times. Yeah. And even the conversation between her and Kenzie, I thought was like a really, yeah. That was like one of the best moments at like most mature over having a real conversation here where you're my best or I'm your best friend where you're not my best friend. Right. Because this is what friendship looks like to me. So like, we can beat best friends as long as you act accordingly. Yeah. Yeah. That was real. I do want to ask, have you seen host, I guess, no, it was after the show aired. Um, since Seer's mom was on Instagram live, I want to say abolish Instagram live. Why is this watching people who have been on that liquor? Oh, no, what did she say? Uh, oh my goodness. She said, so they showed, um, Trinity's family, she said, oh, someone at the family said, like, oh, they're so ghetto. What? Wait. Yes. What? Like, this was like on audio. they had like. the whole family over to watch the show. And then since he was uncle, was like you should have tapped that in the hideaway, talking about him in Melanie. And then she said something about Ariana Maddox. She was like, oh yeah, her husband slept with her friend. And now they want to turn her end to like-- - Okay, wait. - It was just like, it was a lot of craziness. And it made me really sad, 'cause I really like since he was dead on family, or he's like, set that on family day. And then to see the energy that his mom had, where I'm like, oh, you're like so a boy mom down. Like, Loki see where he gets it from. - That's kinda how I felt about KC's mom. I mean, we can't be responsible for people's family. Like, I don't know them. I don't need to know them. I'm glad I missed that live. But when KC's mom came on and sister, I guess. - Yeah. - And not mention the thing about the way he treated and I and people were like, well, they're past that. And I was like, well, no, actually, 'cause they're finally getting a chance to come talk to their brother, their son. This could be an opportunity to do exactly what since Sears Dad did, which is like, hold you accountable for the behavior we've seen all season. Even though, yes, you can also still be happy that he found teaching who he so clearly is a better match with. Like, obviously. But that disappointed me. It made me sad that it was only, I don't know, I guess, not all parents are built the same, obviously. But I do feel like it was sad to not have an opportunity for him to be held accountable by his closest, I would assume. - Yeah, yeah. - Even though it was like, had been earlier in the season, there's like more time, elapsed since he had been talking about an eye in that way during call set. But still, I'm like, even if I were like TT's family, I would sort of say like, that's giving me pause. It's like strange that you talk about a woman that you're not dating anymore with that much sort of animosity and like that level of cruelty. Because what's gonna happen like you don't like my sister, my daughter anymore, like that's-- - Or I upset you or fight with something. - Exactly, it's relationships, like how are you gonna react? - And I, you know, despite her entrance, I really have grown to like TT a lot more. - Me too. - And me too. - Yeah, and you know what, you know I'm a loyal bitch. So that really surprised me that she was able to win me over so much. - Yeah. - I mean, you know, I, one thing about me, I love me since Trinity. (laughs) - That's my daughter. - And I'm like, that's my daughter. I mean, I was like, Trinity is my doctor. She's my engineer. She's my pilot. She's my dad. I did ask her that way about Trinity. She raised me. And she's also like, literally my daughter. - No. - 'Cause she's 22 or whatever. - Truly, truly, truly late. - Yeah. - Oh my God, and incredible run. - I love Trinity. So you rise, I guess. - Yeah. - Ooh, you miss. (laughs) - Yeah. - Well, I love a Betty Queen. Again, the girls at two knows who you're using. That's a bad bitch for real. - I mean, she's also just like beautiful. - That too. - She really is. - Yeah. - What do you think about Jen and Gaul? - Jen and Gaul's like little photo shoot. Slash. - Don't care. - Don't care. - I am happy for Jen though. - Yes. - Finally, she was like, so just to get your reminder, this is who the fuck I am. - Yeah. - Oh, that was a bitch. - Okay. - Yeah. - That was funny to me. Gaul, I really don't care at all about it. But, you know, who has really grown on me? - Who? - Corbin. - I mean, he's fine. - No, he is, he is obviously. But I'm like, something about him is so funny and random to me. And Parmita, they're my subfavorites. I'm leaving this side. Sorry, are you immediately? Parmita's like, I've been with rappers, but with singers, minute, minute, minute. I'm known in my city. Where's she from? Miami. Of course. - Oh, wait, duh. Yeah, Miami love, got it. - But I, something about the two of them, it's like, I love their crazy, stupid love. I give it maybe three weeks? - That's generous. - Oh, completely. - You're a giver. - No, I'm a lover of heart. But something about them, I'm like, you guys are so crazy. Like, so weird. It's giving toxic, but also hilarious. - But like, I also want to be involved. - I love mess. I love dramas. - Of course, no. I think this will be the first love island season where there will be, the person who gets the Drake call to like, be on some damn interlude would not be one of the girls. It's gonna be Corbin, 'cause that deep voice get into the studio. Add a little auto tune to it, that goes crazy. - No, that goes crazy. - I need that on, like, a made of honor song. - I'm going from Drake to Drusky, because let's talk about those celebrity cameos. - Yeah. - I'm just kidding. - But it was also giving cameos. - It was giving like self-taper-ported before cameos. - But yeah. - And I bought a few, by the way. - I love cameos. - Cameo. - Bye now. - Soju. - Okay, yeah, I love that. I got a cameo from Matthew Morrison, and one from, for my ex girlfriend, I'm a really good girlfriend, by the way, if anyone's wondering in the future. I got a cameo from my Italian ex, from what's your name? We watched the piano together. You know the one? Adriana. And that's a lover. That's a real lover. - You got my coos Venus, baby. - Yeah, she got money. - But, do much. But let me read these cameos to you. Okay, react accordingly. Lizzo. Sierra. Now that was crazy. That one really took me. I was like, wait, huh? CC loves you. I was like, what? I was like, you are on your Zoom. You watch live, I don't know, I mean, but love to know. I don't know. Demi Lovato. Demetriya would watch live. - That is unspricing at all. - Every night at night, I know it. Every day except Humpty. Jordan Sparks. I guess I made that. - Well, the no air at all. - Yeah, yeah. And no air is above, always will be. - Yeah. - Sombra. - So I see this man on my TV, and I was like, I don't know who this is. And he said, I'm Sombra, I said, okay. He said, you saw a lesbian on TV. And he said, who's this girl? And I said, and it was Sombra, it always is. Um, I love his success. Okay, Kasha, Kasha was, okay, yeah. She stole my line. I'd be saying their love is my drug, and she stole that from me. (laughing) Okay, Druski. Druski was funny. The fact that he was sitting on a countertop in like an unvernished apartment was random, but okay, whatever you say, they loved him though. - They really liked Druski. - Oh, I know, 'cause Druski is funny. - Yeah, I will give it to you now. 'Cause I watched her. - Hunter, I'm so sick of playing this game with you. I'm always right, and Hunter is so mean to me. Go back to every episode. I said, you were vindicated last week. I said, she's changing her tune. - I am selfish, I am wrong. - Listen, all the pain and suffering I've been through, just for her to end up on the winning team. Okay, right, and then who, oh, Kalani. - Kalani. Again, kind of random, but then I was like, there are a lot of bisexuals on the show. And then, who's Alex Warren? - YouTuber, YouTuber Tik Toker. - I had to look at her. - So did they, apparently, they didn't get seem to care. - I was like, well, this is like a man from, anyway, okay. I actually mixed him up with the guy that said, get me to God's country. I was like, that guy, but he's named something else. Morgan Wallen. - Yeah, both EG is not God's country. Well, Ken does out, so we don't need to do that anymore. (laughing) - I wanna say shout out to Tuffy Pasoah and Sierra Miller. Me and I have loved Aperson this season. - Yeah, me too. - That's been a lot of fun. And they get a lot of crazy comments on threads that I happen to darken my doorstep, and it makes me mad every single time, 'cause I'll box over them. But I also wanna talk about Swizzily, the clips of Tuffy doing those interrogation. Those are so funny. Oh my gosh, they're so funny. Especially, I did just watch the one this morning where Corbin says, Tuffy, no, I was getting kicked out my soul. I mean, she didn't exactly what I would do. She was like, get Corbin over here, it's dad. - Yeah, yeah. - We're getting on our Zoom together. - No, like, that's a comedian. - He's actually thinking about it. He's gonna make bank on Camille to say people's like, 'cause I want him to say, Peyton, so bad. - No, I need that. - I'm like, we, am I in love? - Wait, is that you're like number one boy from love Island, do you think? - At this point, probably. I mean, I also really like Bryce a lot. I think since years, maybe hands out the most handsome to me. - Yeah. - Yeah, I used to like, sack a lot more, but then he kind of just like, everything about him, I'm like, blah, blah. - Yeah, I don't know. - And like being like, I was ugly duckling brother, world's tanny is violent, okay. And so many people were like, going crazy for Carl, and I was like, Meg was like, he's the hottest one. And I was like, I just like, don't feel that way, but then I was like, but I don't really, I don't like men like that. And like, not even in a lesbian way, it's like, I don't like that kind of man, I guess. I think he's cute, but I am. - Yeah. - Well, actually, Carl, take a seat. Mom, Carl's mom. - Oh, yeah. - Stand on up and get your baddy change. - She's beautiful too. - Oh my God. Actually, wait, we have to go back to family's permanent. Melanie's mom and sister. That was hard to watch. Legit, like when in after son, which by the way, is the only year I've watched. So just know that they're doing a great job. - Oh, when they were crying? - Yeah. - Especially when Tuffy was crying, because I felt like I related a bit more to that sentiment of just like, as someone who's like really close with my mom, and like friends like sisters who have to like sit me down and tell me things I maybe didn't want to hear. I like got emotional, I cried again, just like thinking about how important that conversation is and how like loved she is by her mom and her sister. And that was like really beautiful to see that kind of protection over her. - Yeah. - Even though she still chose to be a sincere, and I hold space for that, 'cause it happens. - She's a ray. So anyway, right, you had a whole hour come and like give you a prophecy. Your mother comes to giving you a blessing and you're like, so I'm a stick beside him. (laughing) - I got to tell me first. - And putting her first is putting since year first. - Yeah. - Well, he said, she's so resilient. - Yo, you're about to do it. Um, they're doing impressions of each. Like, oh, the rest of everyone. And his impression was Melanie giving him another chance again and again and again. I was like, oh, say, that's actually evil. Yeah, he does have the traits of a toxic muscle. It's lesbian that one. But as you said on this very podcast, let me say this. He lies so much. He doesn't even really know that he's lying. It doesn't even occur to him that like what he said was just not true. Yeah, it's truly not malintent. He just is a little dumb. I want to say, I want to hold space for a very important person to this season. Ooh, soul. She's on live too. Soul had one agenda item. At well, too, mama happy. And to just give everyone the ick. Like give everyone a bad vibe. Every single person was like, "Night girl, get her. Boot her out this bitch." Boot her out this bitch is five. But I love Soul Loki. I'm like, you're hilarious. You're built and allowed to divide us. But like what was, didn't they all meet up all like the future cast members of Beyond the Villa? They like all met up at like, I don't know, Benihana or something. Oh, was that the photo Tensey with the ball? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which, we'll quick question. Are you watching Beyond the Villa? Have you ever watched any of those? No. I tried to watch the very first one. And I was like, actually like the minute we're done, I just don't care anymore. This might be the first time. They're not going to get, like, core four is going to outgrow this. I would hope and pray. But like, this might be the first time that I might generally like really care about, like the girl's post villa. But probably. No, I don't know. I'm going to be following Trendy and Cata. Do you follow them on IG and Anaya? Or Threat? No, I haven't followed them anywhere. I don't know if I follow them. Yeah, neither do I. But this season I will. And you know, I'm going to be following too. Soul. [LAUGHTER] Melanie. Oh, he's so good at it. No, but that's whole area. But Parmita doesn't have a real-- she has a different voice too. Someone was-- well, let women do whatever they want, actually. I don't care. Yeah, talk over you guys, girls. So she's on in her city. Whatever accent she has, she's on in her city. I got to go to the club with her. Her and Bryce's mom, we turned up. Parmita and Bryce's mom. [MUSIC PLAYING]