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I wear them all the time when we go on the pool with the boys. I'm excited to see what she picks out from Quince for me next. You're nice khaki shorts are from Quince. With the khaki that I wear like literally every day. Yep. Those are from Quince. You don't even know where your clothes are from, but if you had to guess, they're probably from Quince because I love shopping their min section as well for Matt. You can wear them in many different ways for many different seasons. Find your next fall favorites at Quince. Download the Quince app for app exclusive offers or go to Quince.com. Get free shipping on your order and 365 day returns now available in Canada and the UK too. And when Quince asks you where you heard about them, let them know that unplanned sent you. It's the best way to support the show. Something was up with my epidural and I was going nonverbal. I locked in on this meditation. Yeah. Left your body. I went to another decision. You might want to just get the epidural a little bit sooner than last time. No. You're gonna push it. Maybe we just try to do this crunchy. This is the first time you're saying this to me. As of right now, the birth plan has to do with you back. The concern that people listen to this right now is probably, what if you're uterus ruptures? Because it is a risk. I just keep telling myself that we're going to spontaneously go into labor right around 38 weeks and it's going to be beautiful and amazing. You've had a lot of sympathy symptoms. Now I think about it. You did point out to me that my aerialis are bigger. You pointed it out. I think it was body shaming is what it was. No, uh. What's up dudes? Welcome back to another episode of unplanned. We have been doing so much travel before Abby can't travel anymore with her getting further and further in this pregnancy. So we have a lot to catch up on. Got a game that we want to play with you guys to follow along with. And we have some really exciting news we wanted to share as well. So thanks for being here. Potentially. Yeah. Really exciting news. Got like some big changes in the birth plans. We'll get to that in a second. But baby, we just got back from Lake Tahoe. And before that, you went to Hawaii. And before that, we went to Disneyland. And I also went to New York in there. At this point, I kind of wanted to become like a travel YouTube couple. No, I don't know how those people do it. I love it. Guys, we've had people on our show before that do travel content. And they don't even have a house. They literally just fly all over the world and make videos. And I think that sounds really fun. Yeah, I mean, I like a trip. But it feels really good to come home and to like eat a home cooked meal. That's where we're different. Go to the gym. I love to live on the edge, baby. I love, I love just being out in it, especially nature. Isn't there something like beautiful, like when we're in Tahoe, when you looked out at that lake, especially when we were on the gondola, it's beautiful. Yeah. It just takes my breath away. Just how beautiful our world is. I just really appreciate that. That was cool. Yeah. I don't think you would actually like doing it full time. I think because even after like a 10 day trip, you're like, okay, I'm really, it feels really good to be home. I think being in new environments just inspires me and gets me excited. And I love meeting people from all over too. I think every, every city, every part of the country in the world has just its own DNA. It's just so unique and interesting. And I think it's fun. I think it's really fun. No, I agree. I just am like full time would be crazy, especially because now I'm like, I'm pretty burnt out from travel. Yeah. I don't want to be on a freaking airplane. I can see that. Hey, I can, which that's why we would, you know, need to do van by, right? You know, live in a van. That is worse. Car travel is so much worse. No, I do think it's sick, though. You guys, even just driving to our friend's house 30 minutes away last night, I was like, oh. It would take like some getting used to driving around a vehicle of that size. But the people that have like those big old RVs where you got, you know, multiple beds inside and a kitchen. Yeah, you've been talking about this more and more and it's making me itchy. I think we need to rent an RV and like see how it would be doing that, you know. I mean, I'll give it a shot. I've never done anything like that nor have you. So like your confidence in like this being the best thing ever. It's really not based in much. There's, there's a movie about, I think it's called RV. I'm pretty sure that's the title of the movie. Yeah. And it's, it's with the guy from, why am I literally being so dumb? He plays the genie and Aladdin. What is his name? You're kidding me. Robin Williams. Gosh dang it. Mrs. Doubtfire. That came out with your kids. I remember watching. What did that come out? RV. It was with your kids. Yeah. Like the scene I remember from that movie is where the poop gets all over him. What he's like trying to connect. Like, can you watch that movie tonight? I shouldn't. We should. Yeah. I bet you it's on one of the streaming services. Okay. Well, surely it is. But that movie, you know, it shows like all the ups and downs of RV life. I've never done anything like that. Can you watch movie and we'll decide if we want to try that. But you're talking about before his baby comes. Um, no. Whatever you want, babe. Whatever you want. That is not happening. It will be way too hot. I will say though, you've been doing some, some girls trips. You got a little, you got a granny's weekend coming up this weekend. I might be taking a little bit of staycation. I might be taking the boys on some sort of adventure, just like me and them. You're getting deep into the third trimester. Not deep, but like, you know, I awkward about a time. So, some of the gym today was like, that's close. I'm like, is it though? Yeah. Yeah. Two months. Got two months left. How do you feel about the trips that we took? Which one was your, which, what was your favorite trip that we took? Okay. Let's start with Hawaii. That was fun because it was just the four of us. Yeah. That's like our last trip, just the four of us. Yeah. So that was fun and nostalgic in a way, like, I don't know if nostalgic is the right word. But it was sentimental. That's the word because it was just the last time. Like, it was like a family moon in a way. Yeah. And so, getting to just be us and the kids is really sweet. That was the first time we actually like stayed out of resort, resort for, you stay there for four nights. And that was really fun. The kids loved it. And then we're really bummed and we just moved into a house. But it was a beautiful house. We had a great time there too. And so we kind of got to explore both sides of the island and totally different climates too, because we were staying higher in elevation. So it was cooler, run a volcano. And that was just really, that was fairly slow paced, I would say. And fun. And then, yeah, the boys had so much fun. They just really love the water and adventure and trying new things. Their beach kids. Like, when we went to the beach in Lake Tahoe, Griffin literally set out loud. This is the best day ever. Yeah. And he meant it. He meant it was a lake. It wasn't even a beach. Were those man-made? That's the thing. I don't know for sure. I'm going to guess that the lake is so big that it does make a natural beach. Okay. I think. Okay. But who knows? That's one of those things I'll never find out because I don't really know how sand comes to be in a location. What's crazy about Lake Tahoe though? I didn't want to say this while we were out on the water to freaking nobody out. But when I was researching boats, no. But when I was researching boats and things about the water, the weather can change pretty quickly. And you can actually get pretty like decent size waves on the lake. I believe it's so huge. It's massively. And there's been boats that have capsized. And there was one a year ago that like everybody died on the boat. Okay. That was kind of gunning it at one point. It was a little choppy there. I know. Yeah. I thought I was driving the boat fast. My dad was driving faster than I was, wasn't he? I think so. Yeah. But I was also in the front when your dad was driving and in the back when you were driving. Okay. But yeah, I just thought about the fact that we didn't mention this. But when we stayed in Hawaii the last couple days, the house had a water leak. Oh yeah. And so we had no running water in the house. No water. It was a little bit. I got a little nasty there for a minute. Yeah. That was not. No toilet flushing situation. We were just leaving toilets. No hand washing situation. Yeah. No dish washing situation. Well, we ended up doing to help, help our buddy out who it's his house that we were saying at. We ended up just shutting the water off so that it wasn't leaking water. It was like gushing water. Yeah, because the like the water line, it was like gushing into the street. You could see it. Their water bill was just going up by the second. Yeah. And so we needed to turn the water on to like be able to shower and cook and flush the toilet. But after we get to have it on for, you know, 15 minutes, we'd go and turn it off. So that, you know, having running water is such a blessing. Oh my gosh. Yeah. It makes you really grateful. You're like, oh, I love having running waters great. Turning a faucet on air conditioning is great. You know, we, because that house that we stayed at in Hawaii, no air conditioning, no air conditioning, but it was fine. It would get a little stuffy in the afternoon, but then you just open windows and cooled off. Yeah. It was great. So that was fun. Tahoe was fun. You're just hanging out with your family. Yeah. Me and Abby were saying my sister-in-law who was also on the trip, because it was me.
Matt are two kids and then my brother and sister-in-law and there are two kids and then my other brother-in-law and then my mother-in-father-in-law like your parents and so it was like the perfect amount of time for everybody to be together with the perfect size space where we like had to hang out but you could still get a loan time if you wanted. And we did like a lot of activities like at the front end of the day and then had restful afternoons and then regrouped for dinner time and watched a movie like we fell into a really good like pattern on that vacation it was like really sweet that one I was like a bump on a log. I'm telling you I'm hitting the point in like I hit the point at 28 weeks as pregnancy that I feel like I hit the other two times at like 35 weeks where I'm just like like you know yeah just a little bit like you know uncomfortable yeah that's what they tired nauseous again I'm getting nauseous I have similar pregnancy versions that I did in the first trimester already again what's going on I think it's just you're hitting that time why so early was your bot like am I just becoming weaker and I don't think you're becoming weaker I think I am I think you're just getting hit with all those symptoms and all those feelings all over again and I remember I remember with the last the last pregnancies that that we've been there the last time that you were in the third trimester at least I remember just how much you were saying get this baby out of me was I saying that yeah oh yeah you said that so much also just with Griffin with Griffin and with oggy were just so ready in the third for the baby come out yeah well I'm also really I've literally been pregnant for a year now like we found out we're pregnant with Emerson and June of last year and there was just that time I don't know how long it was less than two months in between and that was still like a postpartum similar experience so I'm like I've just been I'm over it like right now I'm not over I don't even want to say over because I'm so grateful to have like a big bump and to be like this far along because I'm telling you after the loss I literally was like that'll never be me again I can never see myself getting to the third trimester again yeah I can never see myself like getting to the point where we're like actually making birth plans like X Y and Z but like the fact that we're here I'm like so grateful but I'm also like wow that's like taken a physical toll like all of that like it's a lot back to back to back so you've been pregnant for so much your life the past couple of years yeah do you feel like depleted of resources no well does it feel like your body needs some like recharge no I feel like I felt good and then I just like ran into a wall where I was like no I don't feel good I'm not good okay well we did discover something recently though which we can get to more and more later I guess that might have been why yeah well actually before we get too far into it we want to say thank you so much those of you that have subscribed to our channel yes to the unplanned podcast we really really really appreciate it we appreciate you watching of course and liking and commenting and also just subscribing really just seals the deal and especially those that leave reviews on other platforms too if you're listening on Apple podcast or Spotify so we want to shout out Bay 504 who said thank you five stars I'm incredibly grateful for your podcast is help me heal a lot over the past year after my loss knowing I have a supportive space that I'm not alone means the world to me thank you for making me feel not alone and guilty for having another baby after loss it's really sweet it's really sweet I do another review because it's really sweet too and I feel like you'd relate to it this is one from Maddie MP 22 she said such a good distraction I've been a silent follower since they first started YouTube I look forward to the podcast every week I recently got diagnosed with ADHD as an adult in postpartum so this is such a nice distraction to zone out and listen to when I'm doing the dishes where my son is asleep in the car thank you guys for your conversations and you all are so inspiring it's so nice actually I should say that's a really great thing about traveling is that gotten to meet so many of you that I never thought I get to meet like in places like New York or when we were in Hawaii or when like all over yeah I was so tall it was so cool getting to meet you guys like they don't always feel so special especially when we're traveling because we're like what are they on it was really sweet there was this this grandma on the flight that we were on to Maui a couple weeks ago and she stopped me on my way walking down the aisle with the boys and she had already said hi to me and she goes she goes please tell me you're vlogging this or please tell me you're talking this I have a less than sweet interaction I gotta tell you you had a less than sweet interaction no no they were sweet I made it sour by accident what happened wait tell me what happened so I was in New York with Abby and Adi and we were at like after we went to the show and it's like late at night we were like we need a sweet treat you went to this like a bakery and I what what and I have had a lot of GI problems is pregnancy oh gosh yeah so then what yeah what went down so I had a cannoli and then you know 10 minutes later it's like well gotta go gotta go and there's one bathroom at this place and there's a line and I'm like oh dear Lord please let this door open and I had to funnel through like three more people before I get to meet and there's a daughter and her father like she's like probably in high school okay and she was like he loved your podcast by the way and she was like so sweet and I think that she like shares a birthday like with this baby's due date and we're like talking and then her dad was there and he was super sweet her brother was there we start talking they're like hey no you're pregnant you go first you go first and I'm like no you go first even though I really needed to go I was like no you go first and so they're like no you insist they were so nice I didn't blow it up don't worry but you went first I went first and then I got so poop shy that I just like did you flush like seven times not only peed okay you didn't even go no I was there was an audience outside the door and also this random place had an unlocked like utility closet that like what seemed like it could keep going and I was like there's someone in that cloud I just I needed to become I wasn't comfortable enough do you feel guilty if you ever have to poop on a plane I'm no because I'm like I gotta do this see why did I not feel guilty until our friends my friend yeah our friends made fun of me Matt pooped out of at a friend function we were at a friend function I just had to go there were notes on the door I was in there for probably like four minutes and they put they slipped a note underneath the door and they're like this is a social rule that you don't break well was it stinking through the door I know it was just I think I think somebody I don't want to say who had a change of feminine hygiene products and they needed to get in but I like I it's not like I was in there for 15 minutes doesn't there for maybe five minutes maybe five minutes but like as soon as the note was in there I like I was out like I I wrapped it I was so embarrassed really yeah of course I think they were just joking but I do but I do know like they're just teasing you out of love but back to the plane thing I've heard flight attendance audibly make fun of people that blew up they have to stand there the full time they do like one time I was going I was heading back to the bathroom on a plane and the flight attendants were like just so you know that that guy just blew it up that's not good and I thought is that is this the good company policy? No honestly those fighters is you don't know what you're getting yeah there's some flight attendants such as do not get they give us no F which I don't blame them like they're having such odd hours long days they're having like cranky people because they're tired my thing is I just want them to be nice to me because we've we've had flight attendance before I mean we've we've done a lot of flights though so most of them aren't really nice yeah we've met some super nice ones met some not so nice ones we've we've had we've had every experience of flight attendance well when you fly as much as we have I'm so overflying at this point so I'm glad that we only have one more one more trip yeah it's just the the cabin pressure with you whenever you're at this stage it's like tightens your uterus or something and makes the baby go crazy and I start to freak out like I just like it's just an uncomfortable feeling and this baby so low that I'm like I don't want to sit like 90 degrees like when they're like you have to put your seats back up and I'm like no not this angle my lower back but yeah it's been good and Matt did kind of mention they probably have no idea what you mean by a granny trip yeah let's explain yeah so you're going on a granny trip how how would you explain what a granny trip is to someone who's never heard of it before a couple of my friends were like they found I think they got this idea from someone on Instagram but they were like you know everyone that we're friends with really is basically in the same season of life as us like they have little kids also pregnant maybe or just like you know you're in the throes of parenting little children and they're like honestly what sounds the best is not like going out and going getting drinks and getting all dressed up and staying up late like what we really want to do is just do what granny's love to do which is you know sit around read books do puzzles eat cookies go on walks drink tea and sleep a lot and so that's what we're going to do and I don't know if I'm going to stay both nights because I it's just a staycation so I can kind of bump from home to like the house but it'll be fun I even am going to surprise him with some little granny nightgowns that'll be fun that's cute so yeah that'll be fun probably I'll get to finish my book and just sleep a little extra but yeah I feel kind of guilty because since I hit this
point I like ran into the wall. I'm gonna call the third trimester wall. I ran into the wall seven weeks early this pregnancy. You've been really picking up some slack and I am so grateful that I have you because I mean a lot of people don't like there has been a hat first of all isn't capable of filling in or they just like because of work or whatever like that you have that flexibility because of like you guys essentially like that we get to do this but then also that like you do it so seamlessly the kids literally don't even notice a difference. They're like oh yeah like in fact they prefer you so I'm like this is what am I here for? No they love you I think wasn't to argue he was like going back and forth on who he wanted to get out of bed this morning with him he said me and then he said you and then I wanted you to sleep so I convinced like every morning and then you do so you've been doing the morning routine and the night routine. Are you so sick of me being a lazy bum? I love our boys. You do because you love them. For the best and I love you. Thank you. So yeah I've just been hitting a wall but my second trimester was great. I feel like the whole second trimester was amazing. I feel like that's a tale as old as time though. Yeah. Everyone has an easy second trimester. Yeah yeah. I shouldn't say everyone but I feel like that's just like you know legend has it that's when you're like glowing yeah you feel good you have a cute little bump but you're not uncomfortable yet like the nausea's gone but the pubic pain isn't there yet so that was good yeah I definitely hit it like literally right at the third trimester I was like there I don't envy you and I I'm honestly I just it's amazing what what you women are able to do with caring around a human that that big inside your belly it's it's it's crazy it's actually insane. I like here's the thing I don't even want this to be like complaining because I'm so happy and I'm so grateful but it is like I've just kind of gotten to the point where I'm like so overwhelmed by the amount of time left like I know it soon but I also feel so far but I'm also grateful that it's not that soon because we have a lot to do in fact I actually told Matt yesterday I was like we can't go on a baby moon because we have too much to do around this place which like he doesn't see it because he doesn't have the nesting hormones but I'm like this whole house needs to be upended like get all the junk out of here get organization bins in who's that lady who like get makes you be a minimalist and like has baskets for everything need her bring her on that'd be great yeah bring her on down for that just kind of shake out this house we need to get we need to probably get a bass in it we need to get yeah speak speak to like bottle stuff what is your I need to get bankies probably to tell me more about what your your mind and body is telling you about nesting right now like what's the what's the main the main issue that you're seeing there's so many issues with the house the problem is I don't I I we got to get the boys we got to get the boys 0 to 3 months out and probably also the three or six months out wash all that and then we got to find a place to keep this baby's clothes and pajamas and stuff we need to set up a bassinet we probably need to set up a bouncer we need to get I don't know this time I want all the gadgets that we never had for some reason like a bottle warmer that would be amazing we need to get glass bottles this time because now I'm anti plastic on only some things and microplastics plastic separately and then we need new binkies we need to choose which swaddle we're gonna get I don't think we need to pack a hospital bag yet but I mean that'll be down the line we need to figure out where to store diapers we need to organize every single cabinet in our entire house including the mudroom and the kitchen go through all the kids toys and that's why we're not doing a baby moon there's just too much to do we so Abby proposed this idea to me she was like hey what if instead of a baby moon we do a nesting moon and so we drop the kids off at grandma and papa's and we have the house for ourselves and we can just nest for the whole weekend and I think that's what we're doing I think I mean according to everything you're saying now it's less fun but yeah definitely not as fun very necessary but we have gotten to do some fun travel we've done so much travel it's like it's like it's unnecessary all the travel hasn't been maybe we just need we need to find we need to do our consistent date night once a week again I feel like we haven't been on date in so long we haven't I mean we've done double dates with people we've done we've done a lot of like hang out with family we've done family trips but just the two of us I don't think we've had the two of us in gosh when was the last time maybe maybe when we flew somewhere to do a podcast we had like a little date after the podcast that's at least good but I feel like we we need to bring back the weekly date night you know or at least monthly by weekly by weekly date night would be awesome yeah by weekly daylight day night and then we don't need to worry about it baby when we just need to do a nesting moon and we just need to shake our entire house like it's just needs to be I need systems in place before we bring this baby in I like it I like it and maybe then physically I'll miraculously feel better right now my body's like no because we are not ready yeah and I know it's not necessary but like they call it nesting for a reason it's because it you do experience it and it's it's happening and I just yeah I want all the creature comforts this time you know by the time you have your third you're like let's just make things as simple as possible that makes sense that's what I try to do I like it should we dive into this game yeah who do you think it's gonna win probably you I mean I have a strong advantage yeah do you want to explain everybody what this game is we are doing the ultimate pregnancy quiz husband versus wife addition we're just gonna do some trivia questions about pregnancy all things babies and birth and all those things and you know I have a slight advantage having experienced it myself and Matt will never be able to experience it does it make you sad that you can't be pregnant not really actually really that seems giving birth I've seen you have sat here and been such a whiner but like it makes me so sad the thought of ever being done doing this see the what yeah no I don't ever want to do it so like it you want to be done but then at the same time you don't want to be done well I also if we're gonna be all if we're gonna be for real for real like get really serious per minute it's really there's a lot of anxiety also like I feel like I've never had this much anxiety around like fetal movements and stuff because given like our history like so like the when we're driving back in tall house like how I don't feel a baby and I'm used to feeling he's pretty pretty active guy which is such a blessing and I like love that but then I was like oh my gosh there's like five minutes in the car was like I can't feel him and it really freaked me out and it happens often like I'll just be laying somewhere and I'm like I felt him and I'm like and then I start to freak out and like it's really panicky and then I'll eventually like obviously I feel like the hacks are having something sweet or having something cold and then sure enough he'll move and it's like but there's just a lot more I don't know it's it's so good that you have that like check in like that ability to be like oh baby's squirming around I mean he's good he's alive and then there's also like the fact that like okay well if you don't feel them for like a short amount of time it can make your heart sink um so there's that but yeah no I've been complaining way too much but I the thought of ever being done makes me so sad you know I'm just but I do feel like ready to hold him in my arms you know that's beautiful so it doesn't make you sad that you can't be pregnant no why would I want to be pregnant because it's so cool it's cool but it's it's I mean there's there's the joke about how if men had to have the babies there wouldn't be babies because of you know maybe I'm just maybe I just want it you don't want to do it maybe I'm just weak sauce give birth yeah that's that's a lot that's no it's fine it's great I just I'm thankful that I get to be a dad and that I don't have to give birth like that would be so hard so apparently I'm not really representing pregnancy well because I feel like I like actually love it but then I yeah I just like sometimes there's some downsides it's hard core it's hard core it's hard core it's definitely it's definitely hard core I think that's the thing there's no breaks from it you know the last stretch like sometimes like early on you can kind of forget that you're pregnant you're like oh I feel great both at the end there's no there's no forgetting there's no except for the first thing when you wake up in the morning my body feels perfectly aligned and so relaxed I love that and then I'm like oh gotta get up and then you're certainly reminded when you have to flip oh flipping in bed no yeah that's crazy okay we're gonna do this quiz and what is this it's the ultimate pregnancy quiz but it also includes newborn and birth okay and whoever gets the closest what's what's the ultimate I'm here I don't know we the loser gets a back rub the winner gets a back rub the winner gets a back rub and I'm not the loser gets to give a back rub ah okay okay this these are high stakes high stakes I really want a back rub I'll give you a back rub okay the first question is how How many diapers does it, by the way?
I can't see the answers.
Our producer and sister-in-law behind the camera has the answers, so she, I'm not cheating,
I promise.
How many diapers does a newborn go through in a day?
I'm going to say about seven to eight diapers.
That's a pretty good guess.
I'm going to say eight or nine.
The answer is around eight to twelve, so I can gather up that one.
Oh, yeah.
There's no, do we ever change twelve diapers in one day?
Yeah, sometimes, because when you think about like how many you're changing in the
night too, because it's not like they're sleeping through the night, every time they eat
you change their diaper, and if they wake up three or four times, that's only for a short
period of time.
Yeah.
I feel like really quickly our kids went to six diaper changes a day because they did sleep
pretty good.
Yeah, because I remember when we were packing for trips or travel with our kids, that was
the number we figured.
Yeah, we'd always pack six, which maybe that's bad, I don't know.
But that wasn't, they weren't newborns, though.
No, they weren't newborns.
That was for newborns.
Yeah.
Okay, one point for me.
You didn't really get to jump.
At what temperature should a baby's bath water be?
I'm going to say.
99.
Yeah, I was going to say 99.
That was literally, that's right.
That's it.
Okay.
What is it?
98 to 100.
98 to 100.
We both got a point.
Okay, that's one of those things that we were freaks about with Griffith.
It's dumb.
You just make sure to feed it.
We took the temperature of water a gazillion times and we would leave it in the
bath the whole time and keep it switched.
Guess what?
If the water is 97 degrees, I don't think they're going to care.
Yeah, I think that was something that with the second, we were like, okay, we can do a good
judge with our elbow.
With our elbow.
Yeah.
Exactly.
Yeah, we really freaked out.
I think we even traveled with thermometers for the water for Griffith.
Yeah.
Because, you know, your first, you're just spooky scary.
Do you want to put a baby into hot of a bath or too cold, that's sad.
I feel like you had a lot of nervous energy with our first.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think I took that on because my brother was making fun of me.
He was like the second.
You had nervous energy in the eye.
He was saying that like the second that there would be like, I would just like sprint to
the room.
I kind of made you do that.
Yeah.
I was like, no, no, no, no.
Get it now, no, no.
Yeah.
It was giving me anxiety.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, I was nervous.
Right.
How long is a woman technically pregnant?
40 weeks.
So we're going, we're going 40 weeks, that's right on the money.
Yeah.
Is it 40 weeks?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
That's the exact amount of weeks.
We knew that one.
What is colostrum?
colostrum.
So it's like the, it's what you get before the breast milk.
So you have to have your colostrum go to the baby first and it's like really super rich
nutrients.
It's a teeny tiny amount of this like, thick, yellow substance.
Does it look like breast milk necessarily?
It's like yellow and thick and full of, yeah, it is like an egg yolk.
That's what colostrum is.
It's like super nutrition, nutrient rich, it's like the first milk, quote unquote, sometimes
you get it before the baby comes even and that's when we were getting that cheddar cheese
milk.
Yeah.
That was crazy.
Um, yeah.
Cheddar cheese.
What are you?
Is that right?
First nutrient dense milk produced before mature breast milk survives.
What is amniotic fluid mostly made of later in pregnancy?
Water?
Uh, me.
Uh, yeah.
Water.
Is that both of your answers?
Yep.
That is not correct.
Okay, wait, let me ask again.
What is amniotic fluid then?
It's mostly made of baby's, the, the, the, the, the, the, what is, what is vernic?
I've never even heard of that.
What is it, Abby?
It is baby urine.
You, that was my second guess, but I didn't say it.
That's gross.
So then the baby's drink.
I actually did not know that.
The baby did not know that.
Oh gosh.
No, they don't drink it because it, they're fed through the placenta.
There's definitely.
How are they peeing?
Through the placenta, right?
No, they can't.
I mean, they're getting, they're getting, they're getting their liquid through the placenta.
I didn't realize that they pee and poop in there, I thought that that, that was all happening
through the placenta.
Thank you.
I guess I forgot that.
Yeah.
But they don't drink amniotic fluid.
It says babies begin peeing in the room around 10 to 12 weeks of pregnancy as soon as their
kidneys form.
This pee is made up a majority of amniotic fluid.
The baby then drinks the fluid and pees it out again, and it continues to stay all cycle
that helps develop the lungs and digestion.
See, that's amazing but gross.
That is, yep.
You said it perfectly.
I can't believe it.
I can't believe it.
I can't believe it.
I can't believe it.
- During pregnancy, approximately how much does the uterus grow?
I can't believe it.
Oh, like a thousand times its size.
Ooh, is it a thousand or a hundred?
- I was gonna say--
- I was gonna say a thousand times its size.
that thousand is way too big. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say the uterus grows 80 times the size.
It's 500 times. So who's closer? I'm closer. Really? Yes. Okay. You're not all your 420 away. I'm 420.
I'm 420 away. 500 away. 500 times the size is 500 times the size is crazy. Mine went off.
500 times Matt. That's so big. Have you seen the illustrations? Goodness. It starts off so small.
Why did I have into my brain that it was 80? Have you been wondering why I have been peeing so
frequently? Yeah, your bladders getting squished. It is. Everything is squished. There's no space
for that. It's a thousand times the size. What is the soft spot on a baby's head called?
Oh, we should know this. I don't know. I really have no idea.
I don't even know, I'm not even a guess.
- The little, the little, oh, I'm gonna be so mad.
We just always call it the soft spot.
- Fantanal.
- Fantanal, who the heck knows that,
unless you're a doctor?
I've never, I've never heard a parent.
- Because one of our kids took a long time to close up.
- But it closed up, so we didn't have to worry about it.
- We didn't have to worry about it.
- But I don't think I've ever heard a parent
use the word Fantanal.
- I'm gonna start using it.
Really check out his Fantanal.
- You're not using that word.
- Yeah, you know I'm going to be freaking out about--
- I'm going to make fun of you if you start using the word.
- Only anatomically correct names in this household.
- Oh, okay.
- What, how many centimeters dilated
is considered fully dilated?
10.
- Yep, I was going to say the same thing.
- How much does 10, show me right now
what 10 centimeters looks like.
- 10 centimeters?
10 centimeters. Yeah, I think that's crazy. I think about this. I don't know what is lightning
crotch. You go first. For you, I know you've gotten that in the past. And that's just where
you feel like a joke of lightning down there. You know, you're just kind of walking in. You know,
kind of just hits you. Wait a minute. I just got struck by lightning. I never experienced a similar
sensation. I don't want to say that. I don't think that this is isolated pregnancy. Obviously,
this type of feeling is very unique. I've gotten a joke before. But yeah, I feel like, but not on my,
but I feel like I've also experienced this outside of pregnancy. I don't know what that comes
from every once in a while. I'm like, oh gosh, like you just kind of hits me, you know,
creates an audible reaction. Oh, no, that's never had that. I'm like, whoa, what was that?
Yeah, I would say it's like maybe the baby gets in a position that there's like a pressure point
that gets pushed. And it's like, it feels like a, you know, a lightning bolt to the crotch.
It's a sudden sharp shooting or electric shock like pain or the kind of pelvis or rectum.
A very brief sensation that strikes quickly. It typically happens when the baby grows larger,
drops lower into the pelvis and presses directly on the cervix or sensitive pelvic nerve.
See, why have I felt that before? Yeah. And I've never been pregnant. Yeah, it is a different feeling,
but I feel like that's the most you could compare it to. But yeah, I feel like I do kind of get
that feeling more in the rectum area. You get more in the rectum area. I do. So that's, I felt,
I felt that before, but I don't really know why. See, we have more in common than we even realized. I'm so
proud of us. Look at us being vulnerable and sharing about our lightning crisis. It has been so
vulnerable. I feel so bonded to how many bones does a newborn have? Well, first of all, how many
bones does an adult have? 52? Oh, 300. No, it's 368. You actually know the number? No. Okay, so I'm
just going to guess how many bones a newborn has. Probably at that point, probably about at least
202. I'm going to say 250. That's stupid. 250 bones. That is closest. It's around 300. Today
is your question. The average adult human body is 206 bones. You tell me we lose bones as we get older.
They fuse together. That's freaky. What you're looking at me right now. I put fuse together into
larger, stronger bones as they grow. Okay, that is not what I would have expected. So newborn babies
have more bones than adults, but they fuse together into stronger,
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- Mega bones. - Hey, who's impressed that I had a pretty good grasp on how many bones? - That was good. You actually helped me. - You totally moved stuff on me. - You helped me out, yeah. - Oh, this one's rough. How many contractions does the average woman experience during labor? - Ooh, contractions. - Oh my God. - I feel like you were getting them. It was like every, was it every third? - Oh, I had patosis. - Was it every 30 seconds, every minute? - Yeah, I don't, by the end it was like, they were less than a minute apart. - Yeah, so. - 'Cause I had patosin. - So if that's 60 and one hour. - And it took about 24 hours. - And then so I'm gonna say, what's 12 times 60? Six times 12 is 72. So 720 contractions. (laughing) - Cross. That feels, wait, what was your math there? - I did one a minute for 12 hours. That's two. - Yeah, I'm gonna say 500. - 500 seems pretty good. - I'm gonna go with 400 and I really wanna win this. See, I would love a back rub from you. - Shut up. - So I've never received one. - I'm not doing it. - I've never received that in my life, so. - That's hot. (laughing) - Okay, I'm gonna go, Tim for, I'm gonna go 400. - 100. - What? Wait, it's only a hundred? - Oh, honky. - Wait, there's only a hundred contractions. - Well, honky. - There's no way. - I can get through 100. - I'll just give a few, since you're on the mic, just read the math of the book. - Early latent labor, contractions are mild, spaced five to 30 minutes apart, and typically lasts 30 to 45 seconds. This phase can last six to 12 hours or more, translating to about 24 to 120 contractions. Active labor, contractions become much stronger and more regular occurring every two to five minutes, and lasting 45 to 90 seconds. Active labor generally lasts three to five hours, resulting in about 35 to 150 contractions. Okay, so we're already way over that 100. - Yeah. - I guess it's people with short. - Who's active labor is 35 contractions? - Yeah, what? - This feels wrong. I'm gonna say this, but also my labor was about 27 hours. So, and I had maximum potosin. Maximum potosin for. - Yeah, I'm gonna say that somebody, I think AI did a little blunder there. I feel like, I feel like that's not true. - So who was closer? - I guess technically me. - This is messed up. - How do you feel about me beating you at this game? - Here's my hot take. I feel like the worst contractions are more painful than pushing. - Really? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Why is that? - I don't know, 'cause I think you're just so ready to push, it feels good that you can do something about it, whereas before I felt like my body was at war with itself. - When I saw you push, though, I feel like that was when I saw you in the most pain. - Maybe, maybe I just blacked out. I actually did black out. I had my eyes open, I couldn't see anything. How many pounds, but it's great, I wanna do it again. - Okay, last question, what is it? - Last question, how many calories does breastfeeding burn per day? 350 to 500? - Yeah, that sounds pretty good. I'm gonna go with that answer. - You just started looking back at yourself. - I should have, I should have. - It's the pregnancy brain, though. You just can't help yourself to answer right away. - Okay, what is it? - You're 100 to 500, so yeah. So I'm gonna get that point. - Okay, fine, you get the point. Where are we at then in the game? If Abby gets that point, and I get no. - Matt individually has three answers correctly. And for getting that one to Abby, then Abby has two. - I win! That's what Griffin would say. Do I get a back rub? - No. - I'll give you a back rub. - Thank you. I have to shout out, he played with my hair last time before he even moved his hand physically to do it. And, or ask him. Usually I just have to ask you, but you just did it last night at your hand. I thought you were already asleep, and I was like, gosh dang it. And then you just. Wopped it over. - I know that you love me playing with your hair. - That's what you should do when I have a contractions. I feel like that could actually really calm me down. - See, when we get one of these, like, humanoid robots, one of these days, and this thing can play with your hair, then I'm screwed. You're just gonna. - This is the biggest turn off bet. - You're just gonna get rid of me. - This is one, on my list of turn offs that my husband gives me. Talking about humanoid robots is up there with AI and God. - When the humanoid robot can play with your hair, I'm screwed. - I'm not letting a robot forget touch me. (laughing) That ain't happening. - I'm gonna clip this one day. We're gonna be like 20 years from now, we're gonna have a robot that like. - No, no. - You're not gonna ever allow a robot in her house. - Not around my children, not around my. - What? - No. - Ever? - No. - We already have robots in her house, babe. - Shut up. - Our phones can listen to us. - I'll get our vacuum. Our vacuums, our robots. Our car can drive itself. There's robots everywhere. Our Google Home. - I don't want a humanoid robot. - Our Google Home mini. You literally talk to our Google Home mini. - Okay. - Sorry, draw the line. - But then. - I just have a vision of this freaking robot standing over our bed at night and I wake up. - We just lock 'em up at night, you know? - There's certain things you don't need to outsource. - Okay. Being a human, we can't outsource out to robots. - I think you're just a little too. I think you're just a little spooked. - I think you're psychotic. - You're psychotic. - I think AI's freaking you out. - See, I. - I think you just gave me a live on camera. - Think about everything that I could do. You know? - I don't need it to do it. - Anything you can think of. Did you know that. - See, this is why people are losing their jobs. - Because of these things? - Yes. - Well, the whole idea is that they can allow for humans to work less and have more fun. - You gotta work. Working is important. - True, true. But some people work more than 40 hours a week and that overworking is not fun. So what if you could use leverage a humanoid robot to help get some of the work done for ya? - No, I think you just need to hire another actual human. - That's what people that don't love robots would say. - Yep. Okay, moving right along. We've been talking about contractions and what Matt should do during labor, which should be your indicator that potentially our plans for having a scheduled C-section have changed. - Uh-huh. - So backstory for those that may not know. With my first, I was induced and because of, they were concerned about size and I'm a fairly short girl. So naturally my odds of like shoulder dystocia with a baby being bigger like they were like, well at 39 weeks like we'll just get this process going and sure enough his shoulders did get stuck and they broke his clavicle and he came out and there was not like no long-term damage done to him. But it was marked as a severe shoulder dystocia. So after that, my doctor at the time recommended that when I got pregnant soon after that with our second to do a scheduled C-section and I remember being at the time very, very thrown off by that because I had no frame of reference for other birth experiences. Like I was like, that was great, he came out, woohoo. And they're like, no, like I'm glad everything's okay but that was less than ideal and that could have potentially put the baby at risk for permanent nerve damage. And so we had an elective C-section with our second and it was great, both experiences I feel like were, I mean, I wouldn't say dream birth experiences but I mean they were good experiences. I wasn't like, oh I hate C-sections, I'll never do that again or I hate vaginal deliveries, I'll never do that again. And neither of those happened. So I did just kind of assume though since our second baby was much bigger than our first that we're just, I don't know why I just assumed that we're just gonna continue trending upward and there's no chance that I will probably ever have a doctor that's comfortable doing a vaginal delivery ever again. I just never thought that would be the case. - Until now. - Until now, so this baby, our third boy, is measuring significantly smaller. He's very healthy and doing great. Not a concerning amount at all. - No, actually, he's actually just exactly 50%. Like, he's just right at the, well, just depending on the day that we've gotten, we've had a lot of extra scans, this pregnancy, but he's always measuring like to the day of like how far along gestationally we are. So for us, that's actually quite a bit smaller than what we had before and so I brought up with my doctor, hey, since this baby isn't like, I'm a significantly measuring significantly smaller. What do you think about a V-back? And she was, my OB was very open to it and I was kind of surprised by that and she's like, we'll just continue to see how things trend and we'll reassess every appointment. So I wanna be transparent in knowing, like, you guys, I know that me talking about my birth plans will just from my past. I know that this stirs up. - It could trigger something in somebody. - So many opinions and I have to just acknowledge that even within my own care team, I have had three different opinions all based on my own medical history and my baby's set of circumstances. Like even within our own care team, everyone's slightly different. Like the high-risk doctor or the MFM, maternal fetal medicine doctor, recommended something different than my OB recommended, who recommended something different than this doula I consulted. So I'm just saying
there I understand there are so many opinions even given like my own history and also our babies set of health conditions too because I should also add that like our babies also as of right now in a favorable position meaning like he's head down facing backwards I guess is the way to say it I don't know like he's in a good position which can also change but then also he the placenta is also in a good position which earlier on in the pregnancy that wasn't the case either and yeah I also he's also much smaller so everyone seems to think that there's a different perfect way to go about it and you can never really really know so that's why I've just approached this delivery just like very I'm trying to approach open handedly as possible meaning like you know case to roster or whatever will be will be but I will set myself up for probably just like take the span of opinions and like this being the most medical intervention and this being the least there's gonna funnel this birth plan right down the middle now everyone's gonna have their own opinions on what they want to do can I say something yeah totally well I think the reason you're saying that is you spoke to a doula who encouraged you to potentially do this birth unmedicated and then you've also had people in the past especially that were like oh you know just do c-section whatever so you're getting these like two extreme fields of thought of c-section unmedicated birth c-sa and it's just like well and also I should say that probably the the doula would also recommend not being induced yeah um whereas like you know with a scheduled c-section the baby's coming early but I think what your doctor ended up telling you is we're not inducing but if we get to 40 weeks in the baby hasn't come we're going to induce yeah because according to the medical research and everything that we learn from your doctor it's just it's just not ideal to like let baby hang out in their past 40 weeks now I know saying that could probably people do it and they have amazing results and they feel strongly that I love that I love that for them yeah but we're just gonna go with what our doctor right down the middle we're going we're following what the doctor says I really do I should say I really do trust my OB and I have a good relationship with her and to be fully transparent she's the same doctor that delivered our daughter and on like the literally the worst day of our life and through that experience like I just like I can understand having gone through loss or go through an experience like that like where you'd be like I never want to go to that hospital again I never want to see that doctor again even though it's not their fault not like it's no one's fault but you just like there's just so much trauma associated with your relationship with that person and like that time of your life but I feel the opposite way where I'm like that really built a like a deep trust with my OB that I have and so um I really just think that she has like like my best interest baby's best interest and also is just considering me and you and like our desires for this birth and delivery like and so yeah as of right now we are going to go about a V-back but the birth plan has to do a V-back um ideally I will go into spontaneous labor before 40 weeks so we can avoid induction but if need be then at 40 weeks we will go into be induced which wouldn't be the worst thing ever either though because I was already induced and it my body did respond to the puttocin and stuff so we have that history as well go ahead feel like the concern that people listening to this right now is probably what if you're what if you're uterus ruptures you know what if there's a rupture of some of some sort because it is a risk it is and if you look at the data it's about 0.5 to 1% of women that do a V-back end up having a rupture so I mean that's that is legitimate if you take 200 women in a room you know that's going to be one to one to two of those women out of 200 yeah that is a risk for sure and I also do have a higher risk of a reoccurrent shoulder dystocia because of our history but I do think that risk has been diminished because of like lessened because of the baby size but it's still a risk and I think for you from everything that I'm hearing you know you have it you've got it sounds like you got a 99% chance of this going the way it should and then you don't have to deal with the extreme intense recovery after C section which sucks and you've done that and honestly didn't have a terrible recovery I feel like you hate it it was definitely harder than my vaginal delivery okay but I also am like I didn't have a terrible recovery I think what's hard is if it's your second or third birth then you have other kids to care for in the house and that that postpartum experience looks entirely different because you can't pick up anything but you're newborn for six weeks or like drive a car for two weeks or something like like there was there's a lot more restrictions on what you can do when that feels like that that freedom's hard to get taken away when you have just a newborn but it's really hard to have that freedom taken away when you have other littles in the house that you that need you and rely on you and so ideally that would not be the case and so we're just gonna go about this and I feel I honestly feel really positive about it and I don't even think it's like I don't think it's dumb confidence like I feel like we have I feel really confident about like how this is going to go I just keep telling myself that we're going to spontaneously go into labor right around 38 weeks and it's going to be beautiful and amazing we're going to have an epidural that works and we're gonna it's gonna go fast it's gonna be great yeah it's been sweet hearing yourself people too you told my mom and your mom and you've been so excited to share with everybody that you get to do a feedback I know very few moms get their like ideal dream experience but it would be really cool to go into spontaneous labor to have my water break to go to the like not know when you're going to hospital and then you go and then you like it would just be really cool to have all those things happen um and so I'm just believing that it will happen and it will be amazing but I do think for the first time we're gonna hire a doula we're still back and forth yeah because I feel like the majority of people I know that have hired doulas it's because they pursued an unmedicated birth and that's not a part of my personal birth plan but I'm like it would just be nice also to have someone else there especially because it is a V-back and has like certain risks associated with it to just have someone else there to advocate and to like um kind of speak for us when because I just remember so much of like our first delivery we were just alone in that room and I was like what's going on like you're just kind of left in the dark obviously I know more now but I still am not like an expert by any means the majority of women that you talk to that have experienced an unmedicated birth yeah what what's this the stitch did they like it they're they're they're badass women are they glad they are all of them like yes I'm glad I did it yes they are okay yes but they're also like usually there's a like a long period where they're like I'll never do that again and then they do it again they do it again unmedicated um some of them do yeah again but some of them they're like one was plenty that's hardcore they are they are they're better than me I got to just say it they are better than me I personally um that to me I feel like the people that do that I kind of think of the people that like run marathons I'm like anybody tell them they don't have to yeah they don't have to do that they don't have to do that but you know there's also just like there's so many there there's so many fields of thought around this you know like their their epidural comes with risks for sure and um that all it also limits you like what you can do when you're in labor didn't you say that when your grandma gave birth to your dad she was even knocked out yes like the the whole way that birth works in America has changed a lot yeah she was under general anesthesia they're not doing that no more not ideally it does happen in some oh really yeah and the baby just pops out like your body's kind of no no no no no no they were oh that wait your grandma didn't have a seaside yeah I know she was knocked out and I think they did four steps which is crazy yeah that's not okay no yeah I didn't think so no no no they don't do that anymore um so you know it's just one of those things where it's like I fully know that me talking about this online is going to um elicit some opinions and I feel comfortable with knowing yeah that there's a lot of different opinions of people like hey you know I I disagree with this or it's like that's okay you know we have our own care team that we trust and um I'm saying we personally feel really confident with this plan and it's like it's also just really cool that we never thought that this would be an opera an option and I was I was so content and resolved with that for years you know ever since we had all yeah I was like yeah this is just our what we'll do and it'll be great but it's cool that this is like an option now and um I'm I'm thinking it's gonna be good how do you feel about seeing me go through labor again given our first delivery not going as like smooth as possible are you scared
(laughs) - Yeah, yeah, I'm just gonna try to be there for you. - You seem to be a little traumatized after that. - I'm just gonna do my best to just be there for you and love on you and do whatever I can to be there for you. - Should we do a birth prep class? - We could. - In this third go around. - I mean, we've already been through it, though. So I don't know. I feel like the people that do those are usually people that have never been-- - I know, but I feel like we could learn something. - I'm sure we could learn something. You know, maybe watch some YouTube videos about birth. - You know what's really crazy is that for a period of time in our first delivery, we accidentally did hypno birthing. - Yeah. - We sure. - You turned on, did I tell you to turn these meditations on or did you just-- - I can't remember if it was me that found the meditation or you, but you wanted the meditations. - And it freaking worked. - Yeah. - Like I fully believe. So this duo that we've talked with does hypno birthing and I was like, no, no, ma'am, I fully believe in what you guys do because I experienced that. Whenever we were in transition and something was up with my epidural and I was going non-verbal-- - You locked in. - I locked in on this meditation and I don't know what happened. I just, what I do, I just didn't talk for hours. What happened? - Your brain went somewhere else. - My brain ascended. - Your consciousness, yeah, left your body and you just-- - I went to another attention. - And listen to this lady talk about breathing and feeling peace. - Yeah, I did. And also, we used that tens machine. We did a couple like crunchy methods. - Did I do a couple of country things? Yeah, the tens machine, that was cool though. Because at the time, when you were feeling contractions, I would like jolt you, you were like, you were like, it's coming and I'm like-- - Shot me. - Shot me. (laughing) I think this time though, you might want to just get the epidural a little bit sooner than last time because I think you waited too long last time. And we've talked about that. - No, I think I'll wait. - You're going to push it. You're going to try to go-- - What if I just go and make a hit? - Oh my gosh, okay. You do whatever you want. I'll be there for you with whatever you want. You're just, I worry about you big and big. - I do worry about myself. - I've seen you being a lot of pain and it hurts me to see you in that much way. - Well, maybe if I had some training, I could handle it better. Also, I'm thinking in my head if we don't have Potosin, it's going to be a different ballgame. It'll still be incredibly, incredibly difficult, but the speed and intensity in which things were happening and also Potosin makes your contractions less productive. So those contractions are more painful, closer together, and they're also not progressing your labor as well, which is also probably why our estimations for contractions were so high. But I was not Potosin for about 24 hours. - Yeah. - That does something to you. That does something to you. - Indeed. - So I don't know. Maybe we just start getting the combs out. Have you seen people do that? They like squeeze combs, like it pinches their hands. - Oh, that way they don't, it's like transferring the pain with other parts of the body. - Maybe we just try to do this crunchy. - This is the first time you're saying this to me. - No, I don't think I can. - I'm like, what are you? - Are you serious right now? - I don't know. - I guess maybe think on that. - I'm gonna think on that. - Maybe meditate on that a little bit. - I'm gonna turn on the meditation. - Yeah, go, listen to some hypnoburthing and decide if that's the thing you have to do. - I know that if I had the right person in my corner being like, do this, then I would just get competitive with myself. But then in my head, I'm like, no, no, no, no, let's not do that. Because the epidural actually helps progress me with our labor in the first. So I don't know, we're back and forth, but we're really just planning on going straight down the middle here and doing a V-back - Yeah. - With potential to be induced. - Yeah. - But I mean, we're gonna really do all the things to try to make that not happen. But I know people do all the right things and then it still doesn't happen. So we're just holding this open handedly, but that is a big change to our birth plan. - Big change. The final quarter of this pregnancy. - Yeah. - It's a home stretch game plan decision. So we are excited. - In other news, okay, that was awesome. I'm glad we talked about hypno-birthing, you know, unmedicated birth. That's news to me, babe, that you're actually considering that. - I'm not. - Seriously, there's probably about a five percent chance. - But I think we should talk about the miraculous cure you found to your headaches recently. For anybody that doesn't know, Abby's been getting so many headaches in this pregnancy and it's been frequent and we can't figure out why. Until now, people, so take it away, babe, what did you do? - I did the one hour glucose test. I didn't do the fresh test for those that, I don't even really know what the fresh test is. It's just a healthier glucose drink. They only offered me the hummingbird juice and I drank that and even after just an hour and with the 50 grams of sugar drink, my glucose was still off the charts like low. So I think I have a little blood sugar in which case, I just decided, I took it upon myself. No one advised me to do this, but just to have a full sugar body armor or even just a full sugar soda in the afternoon when I was starting to get headaches every single day. And I haven't had a headache since. - You just needed some sugars. - I just needed some sugar. Mama needed some sugar, okay? - Well, 'cause you have a friend that had-- - I have several friends that had gestational diabetes. - Gestational diabetes. And then you realize that your levels were much lower. - Yeah, which is not great either. - What, I speak to the levels. What was actually-- - But way worse to have gestational diabetes, I will say. - What was your number that you got when you took the test for glucose test? - How I think it was like 63. - So it's not crazy. - So what is 63 of what? - My glucose was 63. I don't know what the units are, don't ask me that. But then you had a friend that had like 150 or something? - Like 190. - One, oh my gosh. Show, yeah, pull up what it is and read it out loud, 'cause I feel like-- - I don't know. - It could be-- - It's nothing that's crazy, but it is data that I, 63, is it milligrams? - There's that, milligram. It says mg/DL. Yeah, I don't know, I don't know what that is. Milligrams per desolate are of blood. So you have 63 milligrams per desolate are of blood. - And I will say-- - And that's low, perito. - That wasn't fast, I didn't fast before that, and I drank the whole drink. - Okay. - So yeah, that is pretty low. - Yeah. - So yeah, no one advised me to do this, but after I saw that I was like, okay, well maybe I'll just like have a little bit more sugar in the afternoons. - Are there any sodas that you want to buy now that you need more? - I've just been really liking shari banana body armor. - Really? - Yes. - Or just like full sugar. - Root beer? You've been in a root beer this pregnancy? - I should do that, but I've just been having full sugar like electrolyte drinks, and it's been really, that is weird that it just like actually fixed it, 'cause I was getting so many, but they would hit ever on like four p.m. So I was like, maybe my full sugar was just dropping too low. Everyone's like, do you feel like you're gonna pass out? I'm like, no, I don't feel that way. So maybe I'm just consistently like a little lower. But yeah, no, I feel much better now. I'll talk to my doctor about it, our next appointment. Like, hey, I kind of did this thing, 'cause obviously it's not like I needed to consult her before I started having more sugar, you know? But, and then she'll probably get me some more advice. That's more medically sound than this, but yeah, everything looks good. I accept all my numbers that are related to hydration and are messed up because I have bathroom problems about six, seven times a day. - Ooh. - Then I was thinking up in the night with them. Which I'm like, yeah, it makes sense. I can't keep up with my water and take here. - I feel bad for you having to deal with that. - Am I just a stinky girl? - No, I just, I mean, I don't know if I got it from you or if it was just something unrelated, but I found myself in the bathroom, so to speak, the other day, and that was painful, you know? - Yeah, I'm getting that six to seven times a day. - That's so much in a day. - You've had a lot of sympathy symptoms, now I think about it. - Yeah, I know what, let's speak to my sympathy symptoms. What are you noticing? - Well, a little bit of chunkier. - You said that yourself. - What? - You said that. - You said that. - I was just saying it as if you were saying that. - A little bit of sympathy weight gain. - A little sympathy weight gain. - I think you wear it well. It looks amazing. - Thank you, babe. Did we notice something else happening with your area? - You did point out to me that my area oil is are bigger. - You pointed it out. - You said, I think you pointed it out. - No, you said, wait, are my nipples bigger? - And you confirmed it. Which was basically like you saying. - And I was like, maybe just a little bit. - A little bit. - It's just sympathy symptoms. - But I will say guys, I have a buddy whose wife had a baby in the past year, and he gained and lost 30 pounds all in a year because of four months alone. He said he didn't change anything about his diet, his exercise. - So he was with his wife. - This guy is in touch with his wife, and I think that means it's more in touch. - I think our hormones are aligned. - Have you been having mood swings? - Probably. - I've been having them. - How does that feel? What is it like from your perspective to have mood swing? - Like I am aware that it's happening, but I also just feel like I'm at a loss of controlling it. - And so you just kind of like let it rip? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Just today. I'll work on it. What should I do? Maybe next time if I'm feeling rage, just give me a hug. Maybe we need to just consult Daniel Tiger and say, take a deep breath and count to four. One, two, three, four. - I feel like this is dangerous advice, but I feel like you should try it and just see how it lands. - Wait, say something, say that. - What I know, no, no, I think you should say, hey, this feels like a big reaction.
I don't think I can say that. You're pregnant and thank you so much for growing my baby. Can I give you a hug or do you need space? That feels like a good idea. I could try it, but I will say in the past when I've tried to do hugs, it hasn't gone all over well for me. I know. I understand that. I do understand that. But why don't you just give it a shot and we can see how it lands and then we'll workshop it after the moment. Okay. So what is my line? Don't you think you're pregnant? Don't. Don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do that. That would be really bad. I think you should say, hey, this feels like a big reaction. I understand your pregnant. Thank you so much for growing my baby. So appreciate it. Would you like a hug or some space? Okay. Let's practice that right now. Yeah. Hey, that seems like a big reaction. I really appreciate you growing my baby. No, no. Say you're pregnant. You're pregnant. I understand you're pregnant. You're growing my baby. Thank you so much. Would you like a hug or something? Thank you so much. Thank you so much. Would you like a hug? See, that's the thing. Like the specificity of the words. Like, I can't get that down. Let's write it down. I'm gonna have to memorize it. Like, it's so specific. It doesn't matter. I hate to say it. It doesn't matter. Hey, that seemed like a big reaction. Growing my baby. Thank you so much. Would you like a hug or just some space? Perfect. I feel like this could go really well. Please report back. I'll report back if that works. Terrifying. This is, I gotta tell you how it feels like how pregnancy hormone mood swings feel in my body. How would this work? It feels like I have an angel abbie and a devil abbie. And then angel abbie gets too scared to say anything to devil abbie. And so then devil abbie just like takes over. What would devil abbie do if husband, you know, were to say. Take a chill, kick the crotch, sweep, kick the crotch, tell them if you're egg example. Oh, yeah, this one wasn't, this one was when I was having a swing that was like more like sadness. Okay. It was different than rage. Rage is scarier. Okay. Sadness is just pathetic. But Matt made, I have three hard world eggs every single morning of my life. Have for a really long time. They might eggs the other day, wrong move. I didn't want that for breakfast that day. You could say, Abbie, you eat that every single day and you have for months, maybe even years. And I would say, yes, but I didn't want it today. And then he's like, what else do you want, but we didn't have anything else. And so I just started crying. And Matt was just silent and scared. He may just have three eggs, but he already had his eggs that morning, so we didn't know what to do with them. And did I eat them? What happened with those eggs? I can't remember, actually. See those eggs might have gotten tossed. I should have just ordered some shake fly for you, I actually at that point. That's a good game plan, unless it's Sunday, you know, can't get shake fly on Sunday. Just one of those things you can't predict when it's going to take over, but I just feel like having this conversation and putting it all out in the open, that feels like, that feels like progress. Yeah. I think now you have some more tools in your tool belt. Oh, yeah. I don't give myself some credit. I feel like I didn't get crazy until week 30. Okay. Yeah. Totally. Totally. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. Great. I wouldn't even say, you know what? I would say that's not kind to yourself. Don't call yourself crazy. Thank you. So yeah, any other thing, any other symptoms happening? We haven't really sat down and talked about this pregnancy that much, but I just really hope it doesn't come across as me complaining because I can't tell you how grateful I am to be here. Yes. Like I said, I just, I'm telling you there was a long period there where I, I just was like, this will never ever happen again to me. You're just uncomfortable. I'm just a little uncomfortable. And what a gift it is to be uncomfortable right now, like seriously, like, I am so grateful for that. I'm so grateful to play the role of pregnant lady right now, like it just feels so great. It feels amazing and also challenging. So I also think that this baby is just in a different position than I've ever carried before. And so I'm just like, not used to that. And it's a different type of uncomfortable than I experienced before, whereas I used to feel it, like all of my ribs, now I'm feeling it and my hips, my pelvis. And it's just a different feeling, you know? The mobility is more difficult when it's transitioned to this location, but we're still doing our walks. We're still doing our stretches. I got those cat cows going pretty soon. I'm going to start having some dates and some raspberry leaf tea and maybe some pineapple juice. I don't know. Well, you're a rock star. That's the only advice my doula had for right now was she was like, just look up a bunch of positive V back stories. That's funny. So I've been watching a lot, but then a lot of these people that do V backs are unmedicated and I'm like, wait a minute. I don't like watching those. Well, you're doctor, you're doctor recommended that you do it with epidural. She did. Because then she said in the rare case that you know, something, yeah, something were to happen. They don't have to go in and like, I mean, they would have to do local anesthesia, right? They wouldn't be able to do. I think general anesthesia. Like you go to sleep. Yeah. Yeah. So it's, it's a lot safer from my understanding, having the epidural in already. It's not necessarily safer, but then you guarantee that you'll be awake when your baby's born and you'll be like coherent. Ah, okay. Oh, so if they're using, if they put you to sleep, yeah, you're asleep. Yeah. You wouldn't be awake for the baby more. Yeah. And you're waking up a few hours later. God, that makes sense. Okay. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. You know, I did look up though. I was like, I thought for sure that if you're uterus ruptured, that I'd be like, game over for having kids, it doesn't, it doesn't mean that you can, you can have kids after. Yeah. Which is crazy. You would think that that would be like a game over situation. Mm-hmm. But it's not. So, you know, case are lost are lost. Yeah. Well, thank you everybody for tuning in for yet another episode of unplanned guys. We're approaching 200 episodes of this show, which is crazy. Well, I forgot to say that my milk came in my left armpit two years ago. What? Wait, you're kidding me. No, I told you that yesterday. And your left armpit? It's just like a bulge. Is that what you're noticing? It was already puffy, but now it's full of milk and it hurts a little bit when I stretch it. I'm sorry. That's so uncomfortable. I remember you getting that in the past. Yeah. Remember when I had to get an ultrasound of it? Now we're not alarmed. Yeah, just milk. Pit boobs. You've got. That's crazy. It's going to take a lot more to get a rise out of us over here. It's crazy to me. Then a little armpit boob. Having a boob in your armpit is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. Is that considered a third boob if it's in your armpit? That's potentially. Is it connected to your main? Maybe two and a half. Is it connected to the main boob? No, I don't know. It's not connected. It's not. Wouldn't it like go through your armpit though and it like goes through what I mean? Oh, the milk? Yeah. Well, I mean, you have milk glands all the way up through there. Are you serious? Yeah, that's what we learned. You have milk glands down here by your belly. Okay. Remember when I got the ultrasound, they said like a cat, you know, cats have like like a lot animals have like nipples all the way up. Okay. We also have milk glands all those places that we only have two nipples. That's crazy. So or actually some people might have more are humans related to cats in some way? I guess we're all mammals. We're all mammals. We're all just trying our best. It's getting weird now. That is getting weird. Um, yeah. It's, it's there. So that's, here's the thing. That's, that's, that's old news for us. Goodness. Well, Abby has a third boob and you look, it looks great. Thank you again to everyone that's been listening to our show since the beginning. We are coming up on 200 episodes. That's going to be in December. So everybody be thinking about like what we should, we should do some sort of celebration. We should do something to bring in the year with 200 episodes. That's crazy. Thank you again so much for tuning in for yet another episode. And for everyone that's left a review or left a comment or subscribe, like the support for the show means so much. And yeah, leaving a review or even just subscribing to the show is a free way that you can support us. So thank you again. And we will see you in the next episode. Love you.
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Key Points:
The host recommends Quince as a high-quality, affordable brand offering premium fabrics like 100% Mongolian cashmere and organic cotton at 50–80% less than competitors due to direct factory partnerships.
Quince products are versatile, suitable for layering and dressing in multiple seasons, with frequent mentions of specific items like swim trunks and khaki shorts worn daily.
The couple shares their travel experiences, including trips to Hawaii, Lake Tahoe, and New York, highlighting both the joy and challenges of travel during pregnancy.
A major shift in birth plans is discussed
The OB and care team support the VBAC plan, emphasizing medical safety with a low risk (0.5–1%) of uterine rupture and acknowledging the couple’s history of prior births.
The host expresses gratitude for the emotional and physical journey of pregnancy, noting increased symptoms in the third trimester and a sense of emotional and physical exhaustion.
A fun "pregnancy quiz" between the couple tests knowledge on topics like diapers, amniotic fluid, contractions, and breastfeeding, ending with a playful back rub as a reward.
The couple reflects on the importance of nesting, home organization, and reconnecting as a couple before the baby arrives, underscoring the emotional and practical preparations for parenthood.
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The host promotes Quince as a trusted, affordable source of high-quality, ethically made clothing, praising its premium fabrics and direct manufacturing model that cuts out middlemen. She shares personal experiences wearing Quince items, including swim trunks and khaki shorts, highlighting their versatility and durability. The podcast shifts to a reflective tone on pregnancy, detailing the couple’s recent travel adventures—Hawaii, Lake Tahoe, and New York—while acknowledging the physical and emotional toll of the third trimester.
A significant change in birth plans is introduced: the couple is now considering a vaginal birth after cesarean (VBAC) due to their current baby’s smaller size and favorable positioning, supported by medical professionals. While risks like uterine rupture and shoulder dystocia are acknowledged, the team emphasizes the lower statistical risk and the strong emotional and physical benefits of a vaginal delivery over a repeat C-section. The host also shares personal reflections on pregnancy symptoms, the importance of nesting, and the need for couple bonding amid the demands of parenting.
A lighthearted pregnancy quiz is played, testing knowledge on newborn care and labor, ultimately reinforcing the couple’s confidence in their new birth plan. The episode concludes with a sincere appreciation for the journey of pregnancy, the support of a strong medical team, and the growing readiness for parenthood.
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Quince works directly with ethical factories, eliminating middlemen, which allows them to offer high-quality products at 50 to 80% lower prices without compromising on quality.
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Quince offers a wide range of clothing including sweaters, shorts, swim trunks, and other essential items that can be worn across seasons and for various occasions.
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The birth plan is leaning toward a vaginal birth, ideally with spontaneous labor before 40 weeks. If necessary, induction at 40 weeks will be considered to avoid prolonged gestation.
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