VANITY AFFAIRS: The Profile Piece From Hell. New Fed Narrative Drops! | Ep 395

Oh, right. You guys hear you, hear you, not all heroes wear capes. Some of them apparently write for vanity fair. I never thought I would utter that sentence, by the way, but I would like to assert firmly that the writer, Clara Malo, should probably win a Pulitzer for this remarkable and unintentionally hilarious profile piece that was published in vanity fair, regarding, of course, Erica, CEO and chairwoman. The turning point USA, I'm sorry, guys, but we have to go through it. It is a certified hit, hats off to Clara. I actually can't believe turning point USA agreed to grant four months of access to this reporter. Of course, question that I have is no access or lake forest group following Charlie Kirk's assassination to conduct an independent review of what went wrong on that day. You guys have been out saying it was UVU's fault. You have a chance to prove it and you go, no, no, we don't want to participate. But vanity fair, yeah. Here are my children. Here's my mother-in-law. Here's access to my ailing mother. Take it all. I just want to be in vanity fair. It's my dream to be famous. Yeah. Totally what she was thinking. Lots unpack you guys. Welcome back to Candace. Okay. So before we get to the high points throughout this piece, I first want to give you guys my opinion. My overall view on why it's dripping with snark throughout from the reporter. Most I think most people would be like, oh, it's because it's left versus right. Vanity Fair is traditionally left leaning. No, that's not this. Okay. This is not a leftist hit piece. I actually think that what this piece is is a frustrated reporter who for four months of her life is being forced to subject herself to an obvious gift. Okay. Where a woman who reports to be a qualified CEO and chairwoman of a massive organization doesn't want to actually answer even the most basic questions about that organization, politics. And yet she's expecting you to just write up a shiny glowing review of her. The piece reads to me like it's a reflection of that reporter's frustration because you have the writer, who's a young woman, likely had to try hard in life, at least try harder than Erica, likely you have a writer who had to do things based on a meritocracy like the rest of us who's probably underpaid, who's now sitting across from a multi-millionaire, who's really accomplished nothing in her entire life and expects to be painted as profound because the widow, right, the widow on the widow, she was supposed to feel bad for me. There are so many gems throughout and I feel like we have to start with just checking an on Blake Neff because I remember he bookmarked my tweet, didn't he? I tweeted out on July 18th, the following, I said that, yeah, you can make this up instead. They are going to put Erica in a spread for Vanity Fair with her children to pull at our heartstrings, say this tweet, it's going to age well and Blake who thought he was just being so funny, decided to add that tweet to his bookmarks. Well, Blakey, you can remove that from your bookmarks. You guys are forever gaslighting me and my source is, but yes, Erica's profile was at long last dropped and we should just begin with the headline photo because it is something. It is something this photo. I don't know why she can never just be normal and do normal things. Like they're doing it on purpose, they want us to respond to this. There's a lot happening here. The good news is I guess that Erica is not in the drapes. She's not in the drapes and they're sheer and she probably wants to be there, but she's controlling herself. The bad news is that Gigi, her daughter, who I just, I keep calling it, I don't like the way Gigi's being treated. I don't. I'd never like it. Gigi does not look comfortable in this photo. You can keep this up. Just putting it mildly, I think saying Gigi does not look comfortable. The entire scene looks like it's happening in like a crusty motel eats on the side of a highway. It's giving breaking bad. And when I envision how the picture that moment came together, it just starts a little bit. I just imagine happy, go lucky toddler being put under her hat, her mom saying sweet things between takes as she's trying to get the sad face right, trying to nail the sad face. Like it's okay, baby, and then like, that's okay. It's just, it makes me uncomfortable to think about how they got that shot. And then you have Charlie's bust in the corner and I think that that's really the most authentic part of the picture because he looks, he looks mildly concerned, confused, disappointed. He's wondering, we're all wondering what's happening, it's happening in this photo. Anyway, then of course, becomes the relatability grift, the kids' toys that are on the ground. It's supposed to go, oh, this is like a working single mom, the kids are at the office with her $700 Christian Luba Tons thrown in the corner because everyone knows a pair of Christian Luba Tons. That's like the signature working mom shoe. And you have that if you're a single mom working, then of course you have the kids shoes laid beside them because Erica cannot afford housekeeper. And the kids are messy. That's relatable. So relate guys, relate. Reality, okay. Even people who have messy homes and don't have housekeepers are gonna tidy things up if guests are coming over. But the content of the article is even better than the photos. It's the best part. So let's go through some of these widow peaks as I am now terming them. Let's just first start with it's okay now that Erica is Catholic. It's a personal gripe. I will admit it. The earliest thing that they gaslit me over, but since Erica tends mass every Sunday and travels with a priest, I guess it's now okay to admit that she's a hybrid. That's what she describes herself as in the article, an evangelical Catholic hybrid. It reads, quote, across hours of interviews, Kirk spoke with a remarkable candor about the most intimate details of her husband's death or faith, which she describes as a hybrid of Catholicism that she was raised with and the evangelical Christianity that she embraces a young adult came up in every single one of our conversations. But politics rarely did. Okay. So never mind that it makes no sense off the bat. You're not a Catholic evangelical hybrid because you can't be. You either submit to the authority of the Catholic church or you don't. It's an ice cream shop that you get to choose flavors. I wish she would just admit that's what I said was true. She's whatever she needs to be for the money, whatever room she's in is what she's appealing to. And right now she feels like she needs to keep up the faith grip. That's what's more important. And she can rely on well-meaning Christians to view her as a widow, the Christians that are being threatened by all these pastors that are going around and delivering sermons about why she should be honored. Well, the poet on the political side, she doesn't want to address it. And the writer notes that she says, quote, in fact, she seemed uneasy articulating her own political views. I couldn't tell if it was because she lacked conviction or if she simply didn't want to offend me either way. It was hard to see how she could lead the movement that Charlie Kirk created. She told me that every decision she makes is based on the question, will this bring me closer to heaven or further away from it? I am so fixated and paranoid. She says of having anything keeping me from going to heaven to be reunited with my husband. I love that. That right there is absolutely what made the reporter know that she was dealing with a fraud. The absurdity of taking over a quarter billion dollar political organization and thinking that you don't have to respond meaningfully to political questions that are being asked of you. As long as you just go, oh, I'm just not, I'm focused right now on heaven. Where else would that work? Give me the industry, give me the CEO, tell me where else that grift would work. In what world does a CEO and a chairman get to abstain from answering questions by just being like, I'm, I'm having focused right now. I am paranoid about about being having focused. Like the CFO of Enron being peppered with questions about the finances of where the money was happening with the money. He's just like, I, I'm really have, have been focused right now. I feel like I wish I knew that excuse back when I was in high school and taking like a chemistry exam. I should, so I, Professor, I am just paranoid and focused right now on heaven and being reunited with my loved ones, and so I am going to have to abstain from answering your questions about everything that's happening, the periodic table of elements. Like, if I'm the writer of this article, I'm annoyed that you think I'm dumb enough to just accept that and not to realize that you probably just don't know the answers to anything because this is not your world, that you are pretending that you're leading a political organization and when you probably don't even know basic civics answers, if they, if they set, sat her down and we're like, okay, Erica, what happens if you know, God forbid, the president and the vice president die? I bet you she wouldn't be able to answer that question, just to admit, you know, nothing about politics. so much more respectable. You're over. overwhelmed and you have no idea why you're in this position. Another point in the end of you where Erica does the same emotional peel is when the reporter asks her about her positions regarding Israel and BB Netanyahu, kind of a critical political issue right now to have an opinion on, given the war, given Iran, given gas prices, given everything that's happening internally in the Republican Party, the war between the Neocons who have never been conservative and the America First Party, America First Group who doesn't care about Israel. That's a prominent issue to have an opinion on genocide and Gaza, all of it, it's central to the political divide today. The CEO of Turning Point USA is actually required to have an opinion on that. And yet the reporter tells us, quote, when I press Erica about her views on Israel, she says, to be quite honest with you, I don't sit around thinking about what BB Netanyahu is doing. My brain bandwidth right now is honoring my husband, loving on my babies, building Turning Point to be everything that it could be. I really don't have the bandwidth to go down the rabbit holes of all of it. It's not a rabbit hole, it's not a conspiracy what's happening right now in Iran, what's happening with the gas prices, the inflation, what people are spending on groceries, it's not a rabbit hole that you have to go down. It's like an opinion that you need to have if you are at the hell with an organization. If you don't have the bandwidth to fashion, opinion on Israel as it relates to the at-home and foreign policies of the United States, you're just not qualified to be running the political organization. I'm sorry, that's obvious. What laugh out loud portion of this is when the author just acknowledges that Erica is weird, like extremely weird, everything she does is odd. And I want you to take a listen to this paragraph. She writes, the writer is starting this, Erica knows that she doesn't make sense to most people. I'm built different, she says, I do not know how to explain it other than this world will not break me. The writer jumps in, it's true, she's a nigma, right down to her clothes. The first time we met in a lobby of the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in Washington, the morning of the White House Correspondence Center, I came dressed in my best Jackio impression, conservative shift dress, ballet, flats, and an overcoat. Kirk was dressed like a 2016 Kardashian wearing a black silk set and a freedom cap, which she paired with glittery, glittery, high top golden goose sneakers. Her fingers, capped in a fresh set of baby pink acrylic nails were embellished with superbowl-sized rings, featuring her kids' initials, a blinding diamond or engagement ring, and a copy of Charlie's presidential medal of freedom. I love your rings. One of turning points high school members would tell her weeks later, thanks. She says, "They're real, like my hair." There's so much happening right there. That's not how you respond. That's not how you respond when someone says, "I like your rings." I like anything. I like your jacket. Thanks. It's real, like my hair. It feels mean girls coated, like the compliment goes sideways or something, like suddenly you're like being told you're poor. It's like this is real. This is real diamonds, like my hair. If this is the scene it reminds me of from Mean Girls, take a listen. I think you're like really pretty. Thank you. So you agree? What? You think you're really pretty. Oh, I don't know. Oh my god. I love your bracelet. Where did you get it? Oh, my mom made it. That's all I wanted was to agree. It feels like that's the, I don't know, that's what it felt like to me. It's like a just a try to say that I like your bracelets or like your rings and she need to tell you that the diamonds are real and but also she keeps doing that talking about okay. I don't know if there's like some conspiracy about Erica having fake hair. I haven't heard it. I'm not down to that rabbit hole, but yeah, very strange, very odd thing to say. Now we should actually clock some of her to be expected I would say like Erica, you should expect some lies, also some strange revelations. We've kind of a grown accustomed to turning point USA, just, you know, feeding us BS, but the article is an exceptional strand of that. I would tell you first is Erica pretending that she's sensitive about maintaining Charlie's spaces. The writer tells us quote, even though she's a CEO, Erica does not have her own office at turning point headquarters, opting instead to work on the couch in Charlie's office near his desk, which has been preserved as a shrine. When I'm there, Mac climbs into his father's chair, eliciting a gas from Erica. No one has sat there since Charlie, she tells me before deciding that only Mac can sit there. The floor above, which was meant to become a full floor office suite for Charlie before his death remains a demolished construction zone left exactly how it was the day he died. Okay. So I guess we're not we're supposed to pretend like we don't remember that time that Erica let Mikey McCoy slide into Charlie's home office like slightly more personal would be your home office, personal office 12 days after Charlie was murdered. Mikey McCoy was taken interviews, taken Fox News hits remember this. Then we had picture gate, the picture went missing like this, this is not a person that is sensitive to trying to preserve the legacy of Charlie. So I'm just, I'm just going to call BS on that like, so surprised Mac did that. Mikey McCoy, because you can just jump into that chair right away. Internet remembers, Erica, it's forever do not pretend that you're maintaining spaces for Mac. Also, I don't even understand the point of the the construction thing, not finishing a construction project that just feels irresponsible, sounds like a safety hazard, finished the construction projects. Okay. That's not a space that Charlie's ever been in. There's no core memory that's being unlocked from a demolished construction zone. Everyone, please stop being stupid and you're pursued to pull out our heartstrings. Another very questionable statement arrives in the article, when Erica's excuse, this is her excuse for sending someone to alos, you might remember this. We never covered this. I now wish that Erica had sort of left the story alone and left it to die, but apparently this people found that she made purchases at aloe through her aloe accounts the day after Charlie died, like the morning after he died or something. And the reason why I wish she had let the story die is because when I saw this going around, it was my assumption that someone around her, while she was traumatized and aggrieved, thought to go out and get her clothes. And then I thought that was nearly confirmed because Elizabeth McCoy did this long thread and answered and said, I'm the one who went to aloe, nobody had any clothes or whatever. And again, my assumption was that Erica was in a hysterical state. And certainly, I assume that at no point it was Erica herself who sent someone to buy clothes because she was already thinking about PR, but that's what we learn. Alas, in this article, we are informed that quote, the night that Charlie died, she remembers sitting in her Salt Lake City hotel room thinking about the only thing that she had to wear on Air Force 2 the next day, a proclaimed t-shirt with the phrase, heaven is my home printed across the front. And I'm just recruiting on the back. The last thing, this is a quote from Erica, the last thing I need is people reading into the fact that heaven is my home, she recalls thinking. So the next morning, she had a turning point staff member go to aloe, yoga, to buy plain black clothes for her and several others, including one young woman who vomited on herself from the trauma. So then, Charlie is assassinated. My assumption was Erica was being sedated. My assumption would be that she may have even had to go to the hospital to be stated because the trauma of a shock assassination would warrant that. I now know that when she went back to her hotel that night, she thought, well, nobody knows me. I've never been as used to the world. So nobody's been mean to me yet. There's been nothing online chatter about my outfits and yet her thought was, what am I going to wear tomorrow when I'm on the plane? I think the world would have been fine if she showed up in a hotel bathrobe. If she was wearing the same outfit that she was wearing, if she was wearing somebody's jacket, if somebody from turning point USA went and grabbed her, one of the many t-shirts that are available at every event that they give out, an American comeback to our t-shirt, Erica thought through this the night before. And this is the little things that I think add up to the fact that there's something very wrong with her. This is not a normal thing. She should have been catatonic, shocked, not thinking about food clothing, thinking ahead about outfits and Air Force 2 is, it's crazy. And to give you a real-life comparison, even though he did not die, I walked you guys through the story of our security in Russia who had a stroke, and we thought he was going to die. His wife, as I told you, jumped onto the first plane, which was get to DC to get an emergency visa, jumped onto the second plane, had to lay over in the Middle East, wearing cowboy boots. Okay. When she showed up at the hotel in Moscow, she was still wearing the cowboy boots because her thought process was not, what am I wearing? It was, is my husband going to live or die and the shock of knowing that her husband had a stroke in a foreign country. It is not, this is not normal. We're not going to pretend this is normal. This makes it infinitely worse, infinitely worse, that it was Erica that directed someone to go to allo because she was thinking ahead about how her outfit would be perceived. She issued the directive, I don't know, I just, that is just a lot for me. We didn't know she was weird yet. Now we for sure know that she is weird and that she was concerned about her outfit. Another questionable statement is the reason that Erica provides for wearing the glittery suit. Obviously this went viral, the suits. So this point in the Vanity Fair article has already gone viral and of course people were like, this is a weird way to come out, why is it feel like it's a celebration? You got this glittery pantsuit on, it offended a lot of people. The fireworks, whatever you want to call it, and the $1,600 Alice and Olivia designer suit to open Amfest in her husband's stead. Erica says this in the article, quote, "People can see the sparkly suit on stage, but they have no idea the fact that that was the only thing that fits. Everyone gets a half picture." A $1,600 Alice and Olivia tailored suit was the only thing that fit her that day. And again, it's giving mean girls what she says, it's the only thing that fits her. This is the quote, this is the sweatpants, the only thing that fits me right now. Take a look. But she was telling the truth Virginia Dorge, because she was, remember she was eating the creatine bars and didn't know that she was gaining weight. But Erica, she's got a team of people working on her every move, hair, makeup, wardrobe, stylists, apparently opening Amfest was supposed to imagine caught her off guard. She didn't know it was coming, she was completely stranded, never mind the fact that the event was held in Phoenix. That's where Erica lives, right? Phoenix Scott still is, that's where Erica lives. So there, even if she had no clothes in the building for some strange reason, she could have sent someone to her house to grab, I don't know, maybe one of, she could have recycled a look because, but at this point in December, Erica was completing the everybody grieves differently, World's Arrest Tour. She had a lot of outfits that we saw. We saw immediately on September 12th when she addressed the nation, she was wearing the white blazer. She could have recycled that, Charlie's Memorial on the 21st. She was wearing a white pantsuit. We have the Presidential Medal of Freedom ceremony. She was wearing a dress, Jesse Waters interview on November 5th. She was wearing a green suit, the Charlie Kirk Legacy Award, Fox News. Okay, maybe the glitter, again, I didn't even realize that there's still fireworks in the background. That's November 6th, Sergio Gore's appointment in the Oval Office. That's pretty random. She had clothes then that were fitting. That was on November 10th. The New York Times book summit on December 3rd. She had an outfit, I feel like this could have worked also, beyond an Allison Olivia suit, the Sean Hannity interview on December 8th, the Fox and Friends on December 9th, co-hosting Foxes, the five. It's on December 9th as well, outnumbered December 10th, red jackets, the town hall with Barry Weiss, the black suit. That would have been very appropriate. Erica, when she gave an award to Caleb Chilcutts on December 20th, that's the day after. So she had clothes by the next day. She had clothes the day after that when she sat down with the Nicki Minaj. She had clothes on the 21st when, I mean, every single one of these is a different outfit. When she released an interview with Shannon Greene, so I just, I feel like Erica is not telling the truth when she says that was the only thing that fit her. That I don't believe that. I feel like that's dumb and she had some other options that were available. And it doesn't, it never feels like a necessary lie. She could have just repeated an outfit or just say, I wore the pants too because I thought it looked really nice. The problem is that it backfired and now she thinks we're dumb. Then there are the most critically, the Candace Owens vindications throughout this piece. They always say we never have any evidence, they say my sources are just wine drunk moms. There's no positive evidence. Well, the interview served as proof to the counter, okay? I really appreciated this, this part of the article where it says quote, for its part, "The warning point has spent last year chasing internal leaks to Owens, even firing employees, wrongly I might add, suspected of being a source. I saw the paranoia play out in real time when Owens is tweeted, tweeted details about our photo shoot in July, causing the turning point team to spiral and go searching for the mole to no avail. And their eyes, this isn't just a media war. It's life or death like that's like what? Yeah. That's what it feels like. That's what it feels like every day, mission critical is Candace Owens. They don't even know what they're doing anymore. And I'm just trying to figure out who killed Charlie Kirk. The writer's observations were then reinforced because they apparently also interviewed Tucker Carlson for this piece and Tucker added this quote, "My sense is that the leadership of the organization is wholly focused on Candace Owens," says Carlson, who says that he advised turning points, Andrew Colbert, "If you don't like Candace Owens, don't focus on her." Carlson says he loves Candace and calls her a very human and decent person, a position that he says has upset some people at turning point Owens declined to comment. I did decline to comment on this piece. And I do want to say that's pretty good advice, but it's coming from the top. Yeah, leadership at turning point USA is wholly focused on me. And guess who's leading the company, guys? It's Erica Kirk. Okay. It's not me obsessed with Erica. I keep telling you behind the scenes. She's nasty. She's very nasty and she directs these attacks. She meets up with people in DC. She knows these attacks are coming against me. It's true. She places like part of an innocent, heaven-focused, heaven-focused one behind the scenes. She's like Department of War to take down Candace Owens, partnering with them. It's totally normal penting on stuff. And yet despite their best efforts, they had to vindicate me on several points throughout this piece. I told you guys that Charlie and Erica had an appointment to update their will, just a couple of days, the Monday after Charlie died. What remarkable timing. He was going to update his will with his wife and then he never makes just that appointment. I will also tell you now and I will say allegedly, but I was told that Mikey McCoy gate kept that appointment and they had canceled it once or twice before, but it was finally scheduled to happen in Arizona on that Monday. And the article confirms that that appointment was supposed to happen via their advisor who's way to involve them things, Doug DeGroote confirms, but also tries to implant in our minds that this appointment was really just related to death threats, where told, quote, "Arica and Charlie had been working on their will when Charlie was killed," says Doug DeGroote, who serves on Turning Points Board and also manages the couple's personal finances. Charlie and Erica had planned to go to his office the Monday after his murder to sign the paperwork. Now, only did they have two young kids, but Charlie was receiving mounting death threats. Night before Charlie was killed, he had been discussing with Erica and their pastor recommendations from his security team, which included bulletproof glass shields and vests. So, we're supposed to imagine this will update has something to do with the fact that Charlie thought he was going to die. And he throws it to things that they were discussing the night before, but also don't forget that Erica is going to tell Glenn back in December that she has a phone and he wasn't concerned about the death threats and he was awake because he was just so excited and it's just so excited the night before about starting the tour. I have an ungood authority that the priest has told people that there were some marital issues, but more on that, down the line, because we got lawsuits pending. So, I got to surprise people with lawsuit filing sometimes. Another vindication. I told you guys that Erica was more anti-Israel than Charlie was behind the scenes, leased leading up to his death. The confirmation actually also came from Tucker in that interview. It reads, "After Charlie's death, Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu hauled him a lion-hearted friend of Israel, of Israel. But in his last year, Charlie had become increasingly willing to criticize Israel's actions in Gaza, even as he received mounting pressure from Zionist owners to support the Jewish state, towing a line between two increasingly opposing factions of the Republican Party while trying not to alienate either. This is now the primary schism within the party itself." Erica says, "Do I think that you can question how other leaders run their country? Absolutely." Erica says when I ask her about Israel's actions in Gaza, that's the blessing of living in a country where we have freedom of speech. Tucker Carlson told me that based on his personal conversations with Erica, he knew her to be much more critical of Israel and the interventionist approach to U.S. foreign policy in general, more than her husband ever was. Erica was. more vocal than Charlie was behind the scenes. And I told you that bothers me deeply because it her complete 180 cents where she won't talk about Israel. She won't say anything other than glowing things about Israel, her partnership with further partnerships, turning point USA and pro-Israel causes. That's not the direction that the organization was going in when Charlie was alive. And if you think of her as someone who was in Charlie's ear, pushing him to be more against Israel, it doesn't sit right. It does not make you think that Erica is innocent and honest. And has why are we hearing this information from everybody but Erica about Charlie's opinion on Israel and where are her opinions? Why are they suddenly shifted? And of course, a final indication came for me because I told you that the decision to make Erica, the CEO, happened faster than the public was even made aware of within the first 48 hours. And I knew because Andrew Colbert told me, even though he did nice, some of the stuff. And at the time, I was like, great, I'm so happy to hear that it's Erica. And in retrospect, I realized how weird it was that Erica would have had any discussions regarding taking over her husband's company so soon after his death. Like that's a weird thing for someone to approach you about. Like, can we take a vote? Can we do this? Well, Doug DeGrew, who is doing a lot of PR for turning point by the way, he was, I told you early on, one of the people that was like crazy behind the scenes and wanting me to be crushed in the media, he puts a PR spin on the reason why they moved that quickly, as opposed to just giving like an interim CEO. It tells us that DeGrew says Erica saved turning point two or three years of searching for and training a new CEO from outside the organization. The board voted two days after Charlie's death, hoping to get through his memorial before announcing Erica's new role to the world. Quote, but unfortunately, the media was just all over us and asking the question all the time, says DeGrew, who is us? You're a board member. People are not messaging you questions for PR. Who is us? They were so much pressure in the media after that. People were shocked about Charlie's death. I don't accept that within 24 hours of Charlie's death, they were so pushed to find a replacement. I don't, I think Doug DeGrew is not telling the truth. I don't believe that at all. Not for one bit. That's not, the world was so shocked that you're gonna tell me that you were just inundated with reporters in the first 24 hours that were like, who's gonna replace Charlie? Forget who the killer is. Who's gonna replace them? And then they said, we better put it to a vote. Right away, we can't wait. That's, that I smell BS with that statement. Again, getting ahead of things because they're all starting to feel uncomfortable with the things that I have revealed and been honest about and that they have gaslit me about for a very long time. Anyway, I wanted to end this by letting you listen to the writer, Laura Malau, in her own words, describing what her experience was like with, working on, with Erica, working on his piece. Take a listen. One of the important points I wanted to speak with Erica on was her political opinions. Did they differ from Charlie's? Were they the same? He obviously was a political animal and would have answered every single one of my questions quickly and succinctly. And even if I hated his answers in a way that impressed me. Erica very much feels like a religious person. She speaks openly and often about her thoughts on Christianity, but when push came to shove and we had that political conversation, she really did what she could to not touch on those topics. And I think it can come across as disingenuous or just not coherent. Everybody's saying it. Everybody's saying it, but only Candace is going to be attacked from the very beginning, saying she is not coherent. She is not comprehensive in her ideas. She is not carrying on the legacy of Charlie Kirk because she's not capable of doing that. She's also just not that bright. Okay, she just isn't. Every time we see an interview, it's not impressive. And so what she does is she manipulates through faith. Faith, faith, faith. How could you question? How could you ask? Faith, faith. I'm focused on heaven. I'm just focused on heaven right now. And so I can't be expected to give you a coherent response. Anyway, you guys, we will be right back after the break to discuss every which direction of attacks because dropping since the UVU independent review, they know it's really bad for them. And what do they do every time? Every time they get exposed as liars to lie about literally everything for no reason. They level up their attacks against Candace Owens for being right right back after a break. All right, you guys, for 20 years, pre-born has stood in the gap between fear and hope. 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Again, that's riverbendranch.com promo code Candace Set Checkout. Okay, so it was in the air. When the UVU independent review was coming out, that turning point was leveling up. They're very obvious. There's a pattern here in terms of what they do. When I say turning point USA, I'm also talking about their extension of the state, obviously Pentagon, Erica is like the Department of Wars emotional asset, whatever it is. And so we had told you that this UVU independent review was coming, Baron actually had the scoop on that and that it was gonna be very bad for turning point USA. And so first we got the precursor, which was a very sloppy file. We intend to sue UVU and then we learned they didn't even participate in the independent review and they lied. I mean, they just did Brian Harpal. They dedicate pages to debunking Brian Harpal's narrative on Sean Ryan's podcast where he pretends that the fake message, meaning it was not his message presented like it was his, like he was in communication with the police he never was. I mean, there was so much wrong with the independent review. We do an episode on it, it goes viral. It's like three million views on YouTube alone. And you know, I gotta pay for what turning point does. I am the sole focus of that organization. So I wake up and first off, let's just just, I didn't, I don't read everything. I'm gonna be honest to you because it's so, it's getting so unhinged, but the Daily Mail runs this headline. Just, I don't even know. Somebody's gonna have to give me the spark note on this. Kenneth Owen's in crisis. This is like the Michael Jackson thing where you pretend the person's just like radicals. What do they do to Justin Bieber? He's like, you gotta like, they're on drugs. Kenneth Owen's in crisis as family begs her to disappear and pray she isn't killed in big print. Insiders reveal whispers of a foreign reconnaissance mission and her links to a secret military location. Didn't even read it. It wasn't even worth reading. It's like, that's so crazy. I've never in my life even been on a military base. That is just being 100% with you. Nobody in my family has served in the military. I've never been to a military base. Secret missions, I can't do James Bond. Whatever that is, I gotta stay away from that, okay? Then we have to get ready because of the same day, there's a whiplash of a narrative shift. Just absolute whiplash. For the last year, you have been met with what feels like a billion dollar campaign against me but I was secretly in love with Charlie Kirk that I wanted Charlie all to myself. I'm jealous of Erica. They all kept using the attendance. She's mad because Charlie chose Erica. She wanted to bury Charlie. Look at this clip, but Charlie chose Erica. Then they said also that the reason Charlie started pulling back from me, this was Andrew Colbert, was because I just was getting too crazy on the Jewish stuff, right? Israel stuff. You've been bombarded with news over the last two years. Since I love Daily Wire, that I'm a kind of date-off Hitler. The Jews are not safe with me running around. Literally in the last year, they tried to cancel me for saying they claimed that I said I did not, but they said she supported Joseph Mengele. I'm banned from Australia for hatred towards the Jews. Making a mockery they said of the Holocaust, making a mockery of people who were turned into bedside lamps and so, I mean, there have been so many insane headlines calling me anti-Semitic. New narrative now, the attacks are not landing. So someone said, okay, someone sat down at the meeting in his head. What if we say the exact opposite? And by golly, you guys, a narrative has indeed shifted and it is the exact opposite because now I'm a cheating lesbian who is funded, this is so crazy. The person who wrote this is unhinged. They're now like finding people with long records, you know, people with the kind of people you can't do, they're just like in trailer parks. This is what it's like, they're so in the Jeffrey Springer gutter. It's just like, you're a convict, you have a history. Will you say stuff about Candace that we can then just echo? Real headline, the cheating lesbian funded by a Zionist, the deconstruction of Candace. And then it says, Candace Owens is hidden homosexuality. The federal agents promoting Candace Owens to become president so that he can blackmail her with a sex tape and the Zionist who secretly owns her anti-Zionist business, a lot to unpack. Okay, it's schizophrenic, it's amazing. You have to laugh. These people are so lost, so lost. I actually think they need to hire me to go after me. I keep saying that, hire me. There's a lot of money. I know they're paying people on discord to do this stuff, but they're acting too proud. I can help them. Okay, I can help them. I highly recommend you guys, by the way, throw it into chat, G-B-T or cloth. It's so unhinged, it's unabashed, schizophrenia. But let's just start high level with just like some of the, now that I'm a Zionist, again, a secret Zionist. The Zionist behind me they're referring to is my husband. The proof that they have that he's a secret Zionist is they also led with George Speaks Hebrew. So I went to investigate, wow, this is amazing. I'm a lesbian and George Speaks Hebrew, and George is running the show. So he's the Zionist that's behind everything, Tadah. I actually love Israel. And I'm just waiting until I'm president of the United States to tell you guys that I'm secretly working with Israel. Reality, of course, is that George majored in theology. As you guys know, at Oxford, I've told you this ad nauseam. And as a part of that program, you're given two options. You either have to take ancient Hebrew or you have to take ancient Greek. You have to do it. So George chose ancient Hebrew. And he did well. He had to learn it. Not to be confused with modern day Hebrew, ancient Hebrew. And his first year, he got a first on his exams. He's really proud. They got a first in that, by the way. Okay. So I guess this is it. He's the hand that's manipulating everything because he's interested in theology. On the opposite side of the pond, I'm guilty of the same thing. So this whole thing started because I was like, where, this is so unhinged, a secret sex hate. Please, somebody drop it. Drop it. It doesn't exist. This is so crazy. So I was a sophomore in college when we had to do a final project in journalism class. You guys know how this goes. You have to, it's always just practicing like you're editing skills. You have to put together a story, edits. They give you some sort of a prompt. And in my class, we were spotlighting epidemics. It's literally, it's a final. Similar to George, it's a final. And we were working on our camera skills. And so I picked the Adderall epidemic and college campuses. And I made an absolute banger hilarious video, which of course you would upload on YouTube to send in the link as your final. Well, apparently that got hacked or discovered or found. And that's gonna get interesting in a second. And the most hilarious part is that these people are so not thorough that they're gonna use this as the basis to say that I'm a lesbian. They don't, they never make the connection. You can ask Claude, there's nothing, there's nothing of substance here. But they use this as the basis. And they, they pretend it's completely, I have no access to this account, obviously. This is 20 years old, that I'm scared and trying to hide this. We actually put the video in the description. If you're watching this on YouTube, you should watch it, it's hilarious. I think I'm a star. Early on YouTube star, Candace does this project. So they find this video. And then they find a flicker account that has photos of me and it certainly is my entire album, which was on my Facebook of me at a birthday party in 2015, my birthday party with my family and friends. They also found that I had a Twitter account in college that I've regularly said I wish I could get into because it's so funny. What is wrong with this account? I'm going like, what is wrong? And then that's when I was like, okay, now they're getting crazy. They said that I had a, what's it called, a MySpace? I have never in my life had a MySpace account. This is not something you can just make up. This is, MySpace was in middle school. You can't pretend someone had a MySpace account. There would be so much data out there that you'd be able to pull photos of people. I'd have to be in middle school. And so then they're like, then we started saying that this must be her account. And this must be her account. And finally they arrive at Candace Owens. And it's not even a lesbian. I want to tell you, it's the most arranged thing because the college video, which they missed, this was an oversight. The college video is actually shot in my boyfriend's dorm. So they confirm, they're basically confirming that I have a boyfriend. This is not, you are right. This is actually in Massachusetts, my high school boyfriend. I did him on and off off through college. So this is my sophomore year. He was a freshman and his roommates, like I asked them to play the part in my final. And actually when I saw the video, I was cracking up 'cause I was like, this is a great memory that I actually totally forgot about. So yeah, we are linking that video so that you can see it. Beyond that, there's just nothing but the most debased and disgusting profiles that I cannot even show you. They are so disgusting. And the person that mits, he can't, you can't fact check it. You just gotta trust the science that they found this YouTube video of me at my then boyfriend's dorm. And so that now I've been exposed, manically posting for the most graphic, disgusting group hookups all across the state of Rhode Island, across like four different accounts. This is hard, this is hard. Okay, can we check this evidence? No, we got it from a data leak, but we can't show you the data leak. This is definitely Candice, it's unhinged. Like I would have told them maybe go 50%. Do you know what I mean? Like it's college, say that you heard rumors that she hooked up with girls at frat parties or something. She kissed a girl and she liked it. You don't go from like a serial monogamous to someone who's dating her first like real boyfriend and then the radical disgusting profiles, which they say I maintain to this day that when I was pregnant with my daughter in 1022, I reactivated my profile or I last visited my profile when I was pregnant with my daughter in 1022. And so I moonlight as a lesbian, but you can't have the evidence to review, you just have to trust them, that's real. I don't even know what to say to it. It's so deranged and crazy. I just, I don't know where they're at. I just think they're just running out of ideas. But here's the part that I found to be the most interesting 'cause when we were looking into this, we actually were trying to figure out when they started coming up with this narrative, like who hacked into the YouTube, if it is hacked, or if I don't know if they created a new YouTube on a dormant account. But the point is that this video of my YouTube and my project in sophomore year of college is real. And here's what we found and it is shocking. Okay, this is actually the most relevant takeaway from this entire scandal. Somebody, for the very first time archived this YouTube page, look at the date. July 9th, 2025. Okay, I wanna show you remember that July 9th, 2025, somebody lands upon an actual project of mine and archives it. The MySpace account that they're purporting is mine, that is not mine. We'll give it a day on when they archived it. August 5th, 2025. Now we're gonna plot this into the Charlie Kirk timeline. This actually terrified me when I realized this, okay? It's just giving like the Andrew Colbert, it was supposed to be you thing. July 9th is when BB Net and Yahoo was in Washington, DC, okay? The same day that they archived somebody, somebody archived the college video that's two decades old, okay? The next day, we know that turning point USA reaches out and the president says that they're being vague but they just want an event in the courtyard. They're being vague, are they being vague? Because Candace is gonna potentially be back on tour Charlie? I don't know, this scares me. What was going on in August 5th when they archived this? This created this page. Charlie was in the Hamptons receiving a phone call from BB Net and Yahoo, offering to take turning point USA to the next level but we don't know in exchange for what? We just know that Charlie said no. And who do you think was among the first to re-tweet this absurd schizophrenic crackhead zero percent true narrative that I was running Lesbian accounts while I had a full-time boyfriend that I was obsessed with. It was my high school relationship in college. What do you think? Bilakman. Bilakman. He went, "X is incredible." Where the world experts gather and share their knowledge and interesting on Candace Owens. The plot think thickens. Since deleted this tweet, but not before, we grabbed it. And he's retweeting another person who actually confirms that the lesbian links are all fake, but says that he did confirm that the video is me through AI voice analysis on the YouTube and that he did confirm that the flicker account is me, and you should read through it. He confirmed that George studied Hebrew. I could told you all of these things, guys, this is nothing that we're ashamed of or that we would hide. But why is black men tweeting that? Black men, you're a billionaire. You're supposed to believe that your money is not mysterious. I started crossing things. It's mysterious. He thinks your money is very mysterious. He says, "What do you do?" He says, "You're not that intelligent. You're not that impressive. He's met you." And that's a very weird thing. Billionaires are supposed to be untouchable. They don't fit us to not wear a billionaire's play. Billionaires are not on X, retweeting crackhead feeds about college accounts, about college projects, and whether or not George studied Hebrew. What's going on? Black men in particular, interested in this thing that happened to be archived when Charlie was with Bill Ackman. What's going on? I found this to be disturbing. You can check it yourself. Go through, like I said. I never, I'm going to tell you information. Go try to fact check this yourself. You will see that the entire narrative is fake. It is being pushed by Bill Ackman among other people. Of course, daily wire, it to be expected, they're never going to stop. But like Bill Ackman, he seems very interested in taking down Candace Owens, why Bill? Why would you, why would you perpetuate this? I don't find that to be plausible, that for the first time that these accounts were archived, it happened to be when Charlie was going through hell over what was happening with Israel. That timeline is getting too tight. In fact, Ash, if you want to bring that timeline back up, I also want to point out some other stuff. You know, it will actually save it because we're in overtime right now anyway, but we'll save it until tomorrow, which is because I have contracts that I also want to show you that we have since received and that timeline is getting very scary. I'm going to be honest with you. The timeline is getting very scary and it makes you go, what the hell was Charlie going through? That was last days. What was going on? Why is Bill Ackman so invested? Why did you leave the tweet? Why did you leave it? We'll be right back after a break. All right, you guys, AI is changing the game in so many ways, including how criminals steal. They're targeting something most Americans don't even realize is vulnerable, the thousands of dollars in equity in your home. 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Yes, a factor in the story is just the arrogance and the narcissism and suing everybody else and never admitting any fault, yelling at people, spewing Bible versus Bible biblical proverbs taken completely out of context to make them think that it's, you must accept what we are telling you, even if it makes no sense if we're caught lying rather than exercising any humility and saying, "We got that wrong, I'm really sorry, let me explain what happened, they just get angrier at me." I mean, it's nutty, it really is, I think if it were, if I was in those tragedy sessions like I would just be a guy, some humility, say you're wrong, stop, pause, reflect, I mean talker gave me good advice, why is Candice your central focus, it's weird, I want to find it out who killed Charlie Kirk, mwah. Interested in anything other than clocking you on lies when I'm investigating and realizing that you, for some reason can't tell the truth, Christina writes, "We notice the pain of your investigation is unbearable, yet you marked John, God bless you Candice, what a true friend and truth seeker you are." You know, I'm beginning to think that after looking at this timeline and like I said tomorrow it's going to get very dark that Charlie was an even true friend in those last days and our unbreakable bond is something like despite all of these people trying to pull me and Charlie apart, it wasn't possible and yeah, I think as we show you what we have tomorrow and are able to fill out the timeline more, you're going to start to see what we see, which is none of this is coincidence. Want to read some comments quickly, I know we are way over time today, but top comments just from now that are coming in, LR Nichols writes, "First time catching alive, God bless and protect you and your precious family, always Candice. Keep up the great work but you are doing for Charlie and for what is right, thank you. Thank you so much, LR Nichols, Thumbelina Grace writes, Candice today is my 63rd birthday, I can't imagine a better gift than spending time with you, Christ is King, happy birthday and yeah, 63rd birthday, what a blessing, what an absolute blessing, another year around the sun. Flame of love writes, "I do not fear the soldiers for my road is made open to me, and if the soldiers come, I have God, my Lord, who will know how to clear the route." It was for this that I was born, Joan Dark, my patron saint, Joan Dark, hope my friend is still terrible, 1429 is when the quotation was uttered. Seven sheets writes, "Turning point is going even lower, should we be surprised, even in that video, you're talking about the dangers of Adderall, strengthens our tie to you and truth, backfire, prayers and faith, please do watch the video." I think I was a talent, I was cracking up and we pulled up, I was like, "Oh, this is totally me, I remember doing this project and I thought my boyfriend's friends were hilarious." They were absolutely hilarious in the video. The editing tools weren't as great in 2008, so give me some credit, it sounds a little static, but it's a part of journalism, you have to do all these stories or whatever, I did a few of them in college, I also remember doing one on tanning beds in salons, that was a group project with my friend Julia, if I remember correctly, there were all these epidemic sort of things you had to do and I made mine obviously funny and arrested a dealer who was selling Adderall, but again, it is in the description, it is in the description of this video, so you guys can watch it. I played a police officer also, thank you very much, Natty Nicole writes, Tim Dylan is going to have a field day with that article. I predict it'll be the same that he does with Meghan Markle, yes, that is exactly who I want to watch go through that vanity fair article. He is exactly the right person, you are completely correct, Tim Dylan, you hear that, we are electing you to go through vanity fair article. Flower Powers, Rice, Erica has unwittingly become Turning Point USA's number one most useful idiot. Somebody should show her the updated Google Earth images of Gaza, miles and miles of dust and ask the only buildings visible are hospitals, no schools, no green parks, no libraries. I honestly think she's like a blank slate and all she cares about is fame and she thinks that it's owed to her and people should make it happen. I mean, she's in DC right now, by the way, source on that, which they're going to gaslight me on, or at least she was yesterday, maybe was a day before I had to remember, but and it seems to be that when she's in DC, the Department of War attacks against me start doubling. They just got to pick a better narrative, I feel like if I was sitting in the room trying to help them call something, I would have been like, I don't know, maybe go with drug dealer. Maybe. I always say I party after college. through New York, I would go through something like that. I would have maybe been like Molly, Raves. I just feel like deranged lesbian posting the most graphic, discussing things. By the way, the reason why my husband, I looked at it in laughter is they even put a video of some girl who her profile says she's Indian because she's probably Indian, the oversight for these clowns. I've talked about this in the podcast, talked about my past podcast, regret, tattoo, regret. Now, I have no tattoo regret because they cannot make fake porn about me unless they know my tattoos. Two of them would have been seen in this shot and they also were missing a belly ring. I told you guys, I was like the little trashy millennial phase and I'm not proud of that, but I am kind of okay with it now because my husband didn't have to blink. It's like, this is just not your body. They tried to show a body of a girl whose face wasn't showing, but this is Candace. You can't miss the belly ring phase. You can't undo that. And I've talked about extensively on podcasts. So that was also another, if your detail oriented like I am, you would have caught that and they missed it. So since I was 16 because I talked about how it was regret because it's so painful to get tattoos removed. It feels like they're just putting you on fire, whatever. Jollon dreams, rights, you are stronger than all the trash. They throw at you, the ops against your military grade strength, but you have something even stronger behind you. God in the truth, go max Candace. Yeah, I'm also just very sure of who I am and who I'm not. And that I don't get that, like it's just such a, it's just so crazy. It's beyond like I read the Hezmer's like this is, do I even have to read this? Like a military and military base for an ops? And I do believe that all of this is happening because is exposing a greater evil. And I'm up playing a small part in that. And it does feel like we are all kind of united in this understanding. I think by the end of this we're also going to, the black robe mafia is going to be exposed as well. That's the judges and the lawyers that are working on behalf of the state. And you can see that with this, this ever intention to bankrupt me. I'm not tired. I am not tired. I do feel very much how trolley knew what his mission was. I know what my mission is now. And I also just think that they're the repetition of how it works. How they pass around the attacks, the same people are involved in every time and trying to echo it and support it. People aren't dumb. It's not working anymore. And you've lost support. You've got to try something different. Maybe telling the truth, but that'd be crazy. It makes everyone think you killed Charlie is what it makes people think. Because there would be no other reason to be this radical, this angry, and to be partnering with such disgusting people on just creating nonsense on the internet that people can fact check themselves and they will learn it's not true. That's it. Zach Costello, hey, Zach, what's up, Zach? Very good to see you here. Zach writes, "Isn't Erica supposed to have a double major in political science and international relations?" Isn't her master's degree in American legal study? She's the CEO of a largest conservative organization in the US, but she has no interest in politics. She's Zach, she's having focused right now. And I just find it to be really demonic that you would ask that question, really demonic. And there's no other reason that you would expect her to be able to answer any of these questions about international relations in political science, despite the fact that we're told that it's her degree. So I hope that you see a pastor. Hopefully that pastor is Frank Tarrick and he will get you sorted. He will get you sorted right away. Alaska dog lady writes, "Wow, I got nothing." I think it was all said in this piece of journalism. God bless you, Candace. We have reached the comedy era of this fake and gay world St. Michael defend us in battle, truly St. Michael defend us in battle. I absolutely love that prayer. I think it's very powerful. We should pray a prayer of protection every single day. We are in a spiritual battle. Charlie understood that. I understand that. You understand that. But also understand that we are winning, which is crazy. That's crazy. We're winning and all we're doing is telling the truth. We're not playing dirty. We don't have the Department of War behind us. We don't have people on payroll that are working day in and day out to attack anybody. We're just committing ourselves to tongue with truth and saying when we're wrong, which it happens. Sometimes you get things wrong. We correct. We pivot. I just, there's something that's really beautiful about that. So I don't want you to miss this in all the noise and don't ever worry about attacks on me. We are, we are good. We're just not that concerned. Although I do like the idea of George Shabbat Shalom. Shabbat Shalom. Hebrew speaking, secretly working for the Zionists, but we'll see what they come up with next week. All right, you guys. Reminding you that this week we have Book Club. That's at 4 p.m. Eastern. We also have Merch on the website. Easiest way to support us. Somebody get Clara a stand as cup. You're like Clara deserves that. You can also join the Book Club by joining going to the website, cancelsones.com. You can get a, oh, sorry. Book Club is, should I not say Friday? What did I say? I can see brain be crazy. I was convinced I said Friday at 4 p.m. Eastern. That's so weird. So weird. Christ is, sorry, Christ is getting 4 p.m. Eastern on Friday is the Book Club. You can get yourself a Christ is King shirt. Easiest way to support us and support the show and the work that we do. Keeping us independence. No, there's no secrets. Sex tape, blackmail operation going on. And I will not be changing my mind about Gaza being a genocide. I got fired for that. Can you give me some credit? Like I'm banned from Australia. We can't just, we can't make me a Zionist over the weekend. OK. That does not work. I want better ideas. And maybe on that note, we should actually end with the video from where for a bit and on how these meetings are coming together. Because it hits the nail on the head. As always, take a listen. We're not going to beat Candace on the facts. We need something people can gossip about. Something humiliating. We'll tell everyone she runs an underground casino. [MUSIC PLAYING] Lizard person? Come on, dude. Not cool. What else? She joined ISIS and fought in the Syrian Civil War. [MUSIC PLAYING] [CHEERING] Wait. I've got it. She licks niz. She licks niz. She licks niz. She licks niz. Niz. She licks niz. Niz. Let's get to work. [MUSIC PLAYING] Why do I feel like that's how it's coming together? Apparently, this is the person is like an old school grraper Andrew Wilson-affiliated person. Who knows? Well, we'll see what they have next week you guys. We will see you tomorrow. [MUSIC PLAYING]