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USMNT Is 2-0, Messi's Hat Trick, and More World Cup Reactions | The Beautiful Pod

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USMNT Is 2-0, Messi's Hat Trick, and More World Cup Reactions | The Beautiful Pod

The United States men's national team made a powerful impression in their match against Australia, displaying strong tactical execution and relentless pressure in the first half, despite some questionable VAR decisions. Their performance exemplified a modern, proactive style of play that contrasts with traditional, defensive international football. England, meanwhile, showed a well-organized and aggressive approach, with standout individual performances, particularly from Jude Bellingham, though the team struggled with consistency and fitness. The match dynamics underscored a broader trend in the tournament: high-intensity, system-driven football that mirrors club-level tactics, driven by coaches like Poach and Tuchel. The discussion also highlighted the impact of leadership and player psychology, such as the emotional resonance of Messi’s performance and the deep personal connection of players like Memphis Depay to their roots. Additionally, the commentary noted the growing influence of data-driven and emotionally intelligent coaching, with teams like France and England adopting more cohesive, fluid systems. The narrative of the tournament has shifted toward meaningful, human-centered stories—such as the journey of a player like Messi or the family bonds of a player like Memphis Depay—over technical minutiae, creating a more engaging and emotionally resonant viewing experience. These dynamics point to a transformative shift in how football is being played and narrated globally, emphasizing not just skill, but resilience, identity, and emotion.

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Welcome to the beautiful pot. This is our instant reaction to a sin-tilating, two male victory in Seattle, Washington, East most was there. United States just dominated the sucker rooms of Australia. I thought it was a crap second half. I'm Chris Ryan. Oh yeah what Chris I'm Chris Ryan and I'm joined by my co-host Adam Friedland. How are you? How's Los Angeles Adam? It's great. Marshawn Lynch, Robert Kennedy Jr. Also in the building for you. Really as a son. So nice they named it twice. It's weird. There should be a junior for the third one. The third. Yeah, but the third you just get a number. There should be a name for it. You have that flag in front of your house, the rigger flag? Yeah, this is my house. You got that next to the guy that don't try it on me. That's right. I saw that on Google Maps and if you want Chris's address it is seven threes. Okay, so yes, the United States man's national team looked phenomenal in the first half. It looked like a proper side. I think we were talking over text a little bit about who the real teams are and what real team indicates is who is just has an actual tactical identity and so I think we put the U.S. certainly does fit into that category I think. It's safe to say. There for real. No hips to hat on me. I'm ready to I'm ready to give my my flowers to poach. I mean the thing that I think that they do that the best teams in the tournament so far have done is run their ass off and take the game to the opponents and really boss it. That was the international football to me is always like really safe. It's playing poker for hours on end and this has been more like let's play blackjack. Let's win this game. It's cool that in fielding this tournament has elements of what we love about club ball. The Japanese are certainly as we were saying before the best example of like a kind of cohesive tactical identity but I think I think England are as well. We'll get to England but like definitely you can see two goals figure prize all over their tactics and especially the second half. The first half they were shaking off kind of a hostage situation that they were in. Yeah. Tommy Stetford backup keeper was taking hostage. It's just that the the curse of Sir Bobby Rompson that they've had on this trip. It's sure. Honestly who the who the hell is going to this team Chevy Chase? You know what are they on a national lampoon style vacation? They're going to Wally World next. And now they've had a hostage situation. Mark Gaye was nice enough to use evangelical church funds but let's get back to the United States. The country from whence we come from I went south from whence the country that we're in right now. What would you what'd you make of that first half Chris? I thought that there was probably some lucky breaks for the states but they played that they took advantage of them. So they get the uncle they get a I wouldn't call it very like close VAR decision that goes their race. They go up to nothing. And then when Australia tried to kick the shit out of them and play like early 2000s Millwall they actually stood up and and and and took it back to them. So I thought all in all like a really impressive performance even without I mean their league won bro. I mean that was disappointing. I mean I was a championship relegation battle side. I mean it's kind of but and what I will say is I we've from not mistaken they're they're coach likes to chat a little shit. And so this I'm glad Lenin Donovan it really pissed him off that Australia's coach has been chirping us for months now. And guess what? It didn't work because we can't understand what you are saying. Yeah. I mean I think that it's strange Aaron Kunde who's the hero of the first match did not start the he was stepped on in halftime. Of course most dangerous player they had though. Most dangerous player they had great story. He grew up in a refugee camp in Burundi which I had to look up as I make sure it wasn't an Australian slur for something or other. It does sound like one. I look at a bunch of Burundis. It does sound like damn they you know they have a slur for everything there. They do. They do. I was there was and yeah it was there you know it was there was and they were like you know what I got around there. It's a bunch of lead battles and I was like like like Lesby and they was like no maybe night. It was like there's like three million like it's just like it's so specific. They I mean they're compassionate people. They're a bunch of white people on the other side of the world just making up words. Do you know what Alex Friedman's nickname is Chris? What's Alex Friedman's nickname? Alex Adam Friedland Friedman. Alex Friedman. Yeah he's my favorite. He's a fan. I mean whether or not he's a fan he's my favorite player on the team because his name kind of sort of sounds like mine. Oh Chris I so for one I know where Ricky jerky starts today but I just want to show you something. I'm a surprise for you. Okay. Guess check it out. It's more finer. You got a recliner. I dropped something underneath this chair yesterday. I found I was just sick and it doesn't communicate as a recliner. It looks like okay that's it. You can cut off. All right let's get back to the United States. What do you okay here's the thing. This was the outdoor example of a punch like a system team. Apparently it was hot in Seattle. I think maybe could we speculate that the second half was a little bit of fatigue. It was silly. It looked sharp AF without their talisman Mr. CP himself which doesn't stand for what a lot of people in the comments are saying it stands for. That's a horrible joke to make about Captain America. Did you also almost just call him chat GPT? Mr. Chris Christian, chat GP. A lot of people are claiming that we're calling CP because it's also an acronym for something horrific and I would never make that joke. No and I would say you're better than that and you respect the flag and respect the USMNT. It's all I didn't even know that that was an acronym. Okay so maybe you're the one that likes it. Do they wrap him in ice for the last two group games now that they're through? I mean they they have qualified. Do they win the group? I think they still have to like Paraguay needs to win tonight and they win the group or something like that. Australia needs to score a ton of goals in their last match if we and if we lose the next one. So yeah we're basically qualifying. I think we looked fine. We looked here without him in the first half. The ball was moving. Desk and we were saying Sam and I. Desk his face right now. The way Sam is looking at me. The way he's just like the way he's reacting. You don't know ball because he just think yeah it's just like evaluating, evaluating, evaluating, evaluating. But when he likes something he's like yeah I guess like what did we learn about the United States team from this match Chris? What are your takeaways here? That they're tough. That nobody can like kick them off the field and that that poach is probably one of the better managers in this entire competition. I thought I was smart him rotating the full backs. It kind of reminded me of Tuchal bringing on a whole new front three for England the other day. It's like these smart hockey subs that people are making. So yeah I just think we're playing with a full deck. Yeah we were both saying that as well. It's like professional rotations and substitutions. It's like it's a real coach and a lot of teams like France versus we'll get to France. A lot of teams are like the Eastern Conference All Stars. If you know what I mean. A lot of teams are a collection of talent that aren't really communicating in a system and a lot the real teams. I mean I think we said Austria also I guess under under Ragnac and but like will that be an advantage? Is this a time where you have to start playing this way in the World Cup and seeing this for the first time be a thing in the World Cup is really cool. Well it's also like a testament to the fact that guys like Tuchal and poach who could probably still manage champions like football and they could definitely could are choosing to be an international management and maybe bringing some of their sensibility from club teams to nations. It's like that's actually a competitive advantage because you've still got guys like Deshamp who are like I cannot fucking lose. That's the biggest thing. Yeah and let him I'm scared of him. That's Deshamp's other strategy. It's like please don't yell at me sir. He's best friends with the president. You know what I'm saying. You know who I'm talking about. He makes everyone worse but we'll get to him up later in the episode. I did want to just report one big news story rocked in rocked the the the trades if you will. The soccer news and for every soccer everyone but footballer reads every morning. It's got like the sanitation news that Tony separatories. I want to get to our consistent I guess kind of segment that we've been doing at the gaffers. There was a huge move. We only briefly touched on this the other day. Yeah there was a huge move. I I said, briefly, and I wasn't saying it was a joke. There was a huge kind of front office move. Herv Renard was appointed as the new coach of Tunisia after Lemuchi, was that his name? - More, Lemuchi more like the Jamal Kashoghi, if you will, of this tournament. For example, I'm sorry. - There's this. - I'm sorry, they shouldn't have killed their coach after just playing every single player out of position. But no, they have brought in Herv Renard, but let's put a picture of this gentleman up there. I honestly, looking at picture, I can't believe it. - Diplomatic immunity. - It is, it is very, but that's South African. - Yeah, I don't think so. - Yeah, but it is very lethal weapon too. - Yes. - It's a medic immunity. Yeah, he, this is, oh my god. First of all, how is there no wrinkles on this shirt? And also, can you size up on the shirt? - This is, they don't even sell this at Uniglo. I don't know where he goes. - The way it grips his breasts. I mean, this is the most French, this is the most French like a settler colonial, the French foreign lesion kind of like, I just go to Africa. He's coached Zambia 08 to 2010 and Gola 2010. Zambia, back to Zambia in 2011 to 2013. Ivory Coast 2014, 2015, Morocco, 16 to 19. Saudi, he, he coached 19 to 23. Then he coached the French women for six months, I believe. And they all got so horny that they had a slip back to Saudi. 24 and 26, Tunisia 26, he's back. They probably did. I mean, how can, I can't even look at the, I'm looking at the picture, makes me uncomfortable of this guy. And like, listen, they brought the boy back. He's going back to Mother Africa to yell at Africans. I guess like, this is the guy's specialty. Of course, if you want to get to know him, he was coach of Saudi Arabia during their famous match against Argentina, the last World Cup. And just to get a sense of his vibe, let's play like a brief clip of his speech at halftime, his inspirational speech. So, what are we doing here? This is increasing. What act does the thing you will go by? I see, last time, but they see, at the middle of the page, he has the word, you stay in front of the defense. Oh my god, you're going too far, you're going too far, too much to march in the middle. I love the translator. Translator is doing method translated. I always imagine. Yes, he's trying to get out. What after is he? Did you see what you did? She's doing so well, too. Yes. You don't see something here. What I said to Shayne was the most similar to the outfit. You think so? You don't feel we are able to come back. You don't feel it? Okay, he was like, okay, he is like that actor that plays the other thief in the ocean's movies. He was like fucking guy. It's Vincent Kassel. He's Vincent Kassel. Yeah, he's the night fox. Okay, so this speech actually worked. It inspired them to a famous performance against Argentina. And then the team that won the World Cup to be fair to them. And they were promised every player a Rolls Royce after this victory. Thickness. And they weren't, you stand and shut up. And the stingy Saudis did not give it to him. Classic. Listen, this is a terrible move. Chris, do you agree with me? There's only one man that could write the ship. Herf. And I think we know who it is. No? This was the wrong iron. No. The thing about herf that you got to understand is that if you play 53 seasons of football, manager, that's like that's when you start managing every African national side. It's just unbelievable that he does this in his normal life. Well, we looked up, like let's go back to a picture of this guy. First of all, he's he is glowing. Okay, his skin, he's like a, he's so wet. Okay, he's like great. How's it got? We looked it up like he couldn't be any age, right? Because he is a guy when you're a vacation with your girlfriend, who's at the pool. And then he's just staring at her intensely. He's like in his speedo, jumping in and doing the best dive you've ever seen. And it's like, go ahead. Honestly, like I'm not, come on. You didn't have her. I mean, what am I going to do? I mean, just imagine him having sex, anything else on this, on this mercenary, on this FFL, just this Boatra Vale style killer. Claire didn't, this guy who just continuously just goes to Africa to yell. No, I think he's something up. Yeah. We got a Vinsikus. Let's talk about our boys. Chris is it coming. Oh, oh, did you, did you feel anything? Did you watch them sing along to Wonderwall after the game? I felt something during God save the king. I have to say, my attitude to the Royal family has been, I got to admit where I'm wrong. I was wrong about them. I think they're good. I was all mixed up. And I can't stand how disrespectful Megan has been. OK, let's continue. No, I'm definitely, when they sang Wonderwall, it's-- Yes. It's the lands on a stag, dude. They love holiday, right? And it's like, there's something about-- and they love America, also. They love LA. They love it there. You have to deal with that over there where you are. That's why I stay here, where it's illegal to be British, where you're from Donnie. England peak too early. Wait, in the second half of the game? Yeah, I mean, in the first half, I wouldn't call that peak-ing necessary. I would say second half, running rampant, concluding with the entire home and/or the England end of the Dallas stadium singing Wonderwall to them, is like, as good as it's going to get. That's the only-- You're saying peak England. Yes. You're saying peak England. I don't know. They could all-- like, what if the entire team got veneers that are too big for their mouths? [LAUGHTER] I thought Hurricane-- Hurricane save Messi and Holland basically put in the best performance I've seen in the World Cup so far. He missed the penalty in reality. In reality, but he was also fucking dealing. He was absolutely dealing from that deep line for position. I would say he went into the serve of the best striker in the world. I would say Holland looks like the best striker in the world right now. It's one match. What are we going to conclude? That was bullshit, that penalty. That was an absolute bullshit. And if I was Croatia, I would just be like, I would-- it would fuck with me the rest of them first out. It was also pathetic that it was on Madrid. It's like, I can't believe that they're calling penalties on the greatest midfielder of my lifetime. Well, there's more than retake. I mean, also, it's just a stupid rule. He's got a stutter set, right? Why is it-- it's just like a-- it's a stupid way. Saving a penalty is like, you have probably a one of 15% chance of the guy not scoring, and saving one. I mean, most of the time, it's a guy missing the target, right? Saving a penalty for a keeper is like, what? Less than 10% thing. Probability wise. Unless you're Emmy Martinez, yeah. Unless you're Emmy Martinez, and you're just like-- I don't know. Actually, like, he's like his testicles are big. What is he doing, the big balls, touchdown dance? He does a Sam Kassel. I don't get what he's doing. But it works, and-- But Spotlight on Sam, Sam said the Croatian keeper was making a meal out of all his saves. He said the Croatian keeper was over-saving. It's enough of it. If I had to watch an overdive with a fall to the ground and a collapse, and all the teammates coming around and giving him a kiss, that's not a bad thing. You like when men are men, right? You know, like when men are men, it's just-- Get on with the celebration. Yeah, Gary Cooper. Celebrations leave. That's right, high noon back there. You're acting the way that people are acting towards Arsenal this year. Everyone is the celebration, please. Everyone never does that. We weren't allowed to celebrate. Now you're being like them. Yes, you mentioned it earlier. The three men's substitution really stood out to me because I'm like, damn, they got more guys. Yes. And it really, like, they just like-- they brought on like just three like incredible players at once. And I mean, like, what did you make of that? That was the moment to me where I was like, oh, shit. I mean, they actually have something. That was a cheat code. They also brought on Spence, and they got like 25% faster. And Croatia just had no answer. Because they brought on Rodgers, Saka, Rashford, and Spence pretty much in a cluster. And then all of a sudden, we're just like 10 yards ahead of Croatia for the rest of the game. It was insane. Yeah, I think the real losers are like Phil and Cole Palmer, when we found out that like the right side is better to have Noni, who is dribbling six guys and then skying it and sack on one Achilles, then they Cole Palmer have fallen. So that's what we found out. I'm not saying that because I'm an Arsenal fan. I'm saying it because we saw a system employed that was actually cohesive and the ball moved in a couple of days. The other thing was that they didn't bring Phil, Cole, and Trent had a bad season. But I thought they would, you know, - You train Alexander Arnold as a creative, like, genius. is for England and for his club teams when he's in form. Didn't bring any of those guys, and it turns out it doesn't matter 'cause they have L.A. at Anderson. And they-- - He really impressed me. Yeah. - He really did impress me. And as I said-- - They have came. - They have came. - In our preview episode, I was like, I don't know how that three-man midfield works. They worked in that first match, we'll say. - It was silly season, the first half, but the players, the English players didn't get much sleep because they were haunted last night by the ghost of Sir Bobby Robson, in fact. And he was like, with chains, like it was a Christmas Carol, yeah. Ooh, ooh, ooh, it's okay. - That's just, that was stupid. - Why do I even talk? - Yes, my main takeaway in terms of low lives or negatives is you pickford cannot play with his feet. And it's a big problem. - Or his hands. - Problematic. - Yeah. My prediction of Jordan Pickford being number one hooked in stinker watch, actually, I think video is number one for me, but it is a real problem. They're set of rack pairing and they're a goalkeeper. And they can provide a platform for silly season for other countries that they're playing. And I think that that's what we saw. Like Gaye, he's undersized, Stones is like slow at this point of his career. I think he used to have some what he called some pace. We're going to talk to-- - Ben Foster. - Foster on Tuesday, I want to talk about keepers. And I also want to ask him if he feels bad for getting Ram Stale transferred basically to my podcast-- (laughing) - Seriously. - Because it's like-- - Number one. - Because I get so hard to pay attention the entire match and I'm like, oh, no. - Don't say that, dude. Just say I pay attention to the whole match. Just why? - We should get Aaron Ram Stale to do Jeff Teague's podcast. - Let's see what he-- - What revelations came out of that? - That would be unreal. - Yeah, they take 'em to fucking to what he called to Magic City. - Thank you, Sam. I've been there, actually. Have you been there, Sam? - I've never been to a strong club. - You've never been to a strong club? I'm going to take you there, get the lemon pepper lose. Okay, what do you make of our boy, Jude? - Fantastic, man, he was rampant. He was back and he also was getting to play a little bit further up, getting to make big runs behind the defense, which is where he was for a Madrid two years ago, before Killian came and put fascistic military rule over Real Madrid. So. (clapping) - We should revisit that, but I think we're going to go friends next. I thought Jude was the best player for the English national side. I thought he stood out to me and it's great to see him back. It's just like that, yes, I think maybe one of the other losers, in the same sense of Foden and Cole is, we're seeing direct evidence that maybe Embape makes other guys worse. - Can I just do one more loser for the English team before we move on? - Let's hear it, let's hear it. - This Harry McGuire humiliation tour is unbelievable for me. Him going on this Netflix show and just being like awkward conversation with Thomas who didn't dress the issues at hand and he was like making a complete asshole of himself and now apparently he's in New York City doing Pemini's sticker signings out of a truck. Is this family in economic crisis? What is happening? - Don't go into the world cup when you weren't invited. And he's just like, yeah, it's awful. He's acting like such a fucking BPD ex girlfriend. He's like, if you don't, start, if you don't select me, I'm gonna kill myself. I mean, if you don't select me, I'm gonna do it. I'm fucking, I'm gonna do a signing in the parking lot. Meet English Harry McGuire who once was arrested for a fight in Abiza. And it was, yeah, that is a great, that is a great pull, I gotta be honest. And another quick shout to Declire Rice's quarters. I mean, like, what we say about Arsenal being set piece, I've seen, I think what is kind of, what's lost in that label is that the two of those guys, I think, and probably 80% of the equation is the delivery of those guys provide. And even on an out swear, Rice just put it on a plate. I think like, it's not even about Gabrielle or like the guys in the middle. It is about literally the two best fucking examples of like quarter-takers that I know of. - Also, just for as much as we've just talked up poach for the U.S., too cool, apparently going in to halftime and being like, I don't really care if we lose. So like, if you can't stop a goal and we have seven guys in the back, you might just just go for it and take the handbrake off and I thought that was awesome. - Yeah, and one last thing for England, Chris, I wanted to, I had made, I made this thing. It's kind of like, and the two of us like we know, and we acknowledge that it's obnoxious for yanks to be talking football. And like, no one wants to hear about what we think about like, you know, Croix's invention of the modern six. So I, I wanted like, at halftime I wrote a halftime team talk. - Okay. - And I've used AI, excuse me, I'm sorry. I used AI to change the accent so that it wouldn't sound like I'm lecturing the England national team and it's gonna be like obnoxious of me to do. - So did you put it in a German accent? - No, no, I didn't actually do it. I assume in, if I were there, I'd be English. So I just wanted to play this for you. - Oh, I see. - If you got caught to having a wank and somebody walks in but you keep wanking, then it looks like the idiot. The guy watching you having a wank, right? That's exactly what he's like with your positive content. If you give up, then you look at the idiot to the rest of the world, but it's you keep going, then everybody else thinks fuck, he's actually gonna get somewhere. Why the fuck should I do that? - So it's exactly what consistency is. That's how you build trust and trust is how you self. - Yeah, so if you get quite happy with your way, you have to keep doing it and then people might be like, "What's he on about?" So that's what I would have told them. And I know that's a bad word and I know that that has gotten Alexi Lawless sent to Guantanamo Bay. - Do you see Zlatin? 'Cause Alexi went to Seattle to hang out with Carly Lloyd and Clint Dempsey and so then Zlatin was like, "You're welcome, America?" - I think a little bit like, they need to be like me. Just, you don't act like you're his best friend, but like, you're super nice. - You're super nice. It's a little bit like, yeah, these guys suck next to me. We all know he's letting him suck. - Oh, wow. - Zlatin, stop telling me so. - Getting Alexi back. - And he's gonna be a guest on the show, actually. So honestly, Alexi Lawless has been my CTV. So maybe a little bit more respect on the pedal. It's a lot of stuff. - Okay, let's get it to friends. It pissed me off. I got pissed, I was pissed. I was sitting there pissed. First of all, Chris, you want to share your takeaways and then I will go in on a squeed. - And I say to him, that's my takeaway. - I always say is clearly the best player in the world. I don't even know what the categorization would be, but I couldn't believe how good he was. - Sam, you're Luminium Lawl. - One of the best things about the show is Sam's faces. He's like, "Sam, you know what the best ability is? Go availability. Kill him." - That's true, that's true. But we'll see what happens in the knockouts, I feel. - He said, "Yo, Mawl's the best young player." - I agree. - I agree, yeah. Okay, fine. They're both unreal, world-class geniuses of the game. It's weird he plays for France. He has no, like, he sort of has a connection to France. I think he wanted to play for France 'cause it's harder to get on the national side. I literally think that that's why he did it. - That's incredible. - Because he's from England, right? And he also has another citizenship as well. - A third one. I don't remember what it is. But I think he's like, through his parents or something, he was like, "You know what, I'm gonna try France. I'm gonna try the team with a Mbappe on it, the best player in the world." But actually, let's get to that. Okay, so a Mbappe scored a world-y at the death and it just felt like Stat Pat FC type of business. I looked at how the other players around him looked and they looked terrible. And if you wanna contrast that to the Argentinian match, which we have to just talk to and mention, we're gonna, on Tuesday, have a longer conversation about Messi Ronaldo, which I think is the juiciest subplot of this entire tournament. But if you wanna compare it to how Messi affects everyone around him, right? And it is an example of how genius elevates those around you, everyone he touches. Literally, he touches a baby and it becomes your mall. Like, literally, like, how does that happen? He would, they could have had any baby. How does that happen? And he's literally, I mean, everyone he has touched, his coach Pat becomes the best coach ever, right? The midfielders that play by item are the best midfield trio ever. It's literally everyone he touches that surrounds this man. Two of the best forward lines to ever play in Europe, yeah. - Correct. - Now, in my opinion, Suarez name are Messi, Messi in the industry. Everything he touches, what we're seeing right now is one, I, like, if you really, if you exclude league titles, which is like, it's a fucking farmer's league with one team that is owned by the oil industry, the last to be won was the World Cup eight years ago. And I mean, it has to. to be said that he won at Monaco as a 17-year-old, and he won the World Cup by the time he was 18 years old. We haven't seen him win anything of significance since then, and it's bizarre to me. The conversation has to be, what is its effect on those around him? I mean, look at Dembali's performance all year for PSG in a fucking cohesive system with the proper coach, and look at how Abject he looked in this last match. I think there's an individual that is playing for himself, and guess what? He is so good that it is possible to just stink up the room for everyone else and just will it individually. Think about it. Honestly, I know I'm not contributing to myself, but think about how bad Messi's team was in 2014. Think about how bad those guys are, and if you're like the best in the world, you can't actually just carry 10 guys to a final, but this is its sucks because there are so many good players there, and he's pulling a Ronaldo early right now, and that's what we're seeing. I know he's much more talented than Ronaldo. I know he's scoring world games and stuff like that, but he's pulling a Ronaldo in terms of what his needs are versus what the team's needs are. Yeah, and he's also best friends with the president, I mean, it's a little bit like he's become bigger than Claire Fontaine at this point. That's true. I see. One thing is that he plays a different position than Messi. He's not as much of a creative folkroom. He's the finishing leading edge, whatever. Messi was a nine also. Yeah, but he dropped deep, and once he started doing that for Barcelona, I think Argentina started utilizing him that way, at least Skolone did, but it doesn't really matter. I agree with you about a lot of it. I think that some of it is France is always going to feel disappointing because they feel like France should be winning every match for nothing. Five nothing. Literally, I said, if they are what I thought they were before the tournament, I don't understand why they don't have five goals every match, at least. They have eight guys that are fucking sniper finishers, and guess what? That first half they got fucking peppered, you know, Senegal is finishing, he held them back. In fact, like, yeah, that could have been a three three Nicholas Jackson's excellent, excellent timing. You can just learn the rule in the game. He's just, has he ever been on side? No, I guess he really has it. Has he been on side? Amber. Because then you see the finish. You're like, oh, he's fucking good, right? What is he going to do that time or rope? That time some guy holding on holding on holding on to hope that like, they changed the off side rule before he exits his prime. Well, bigger try it. I know. I know. It's not fair. It doesn't make sense. Okay. I just think that, like, listen, this guy needs to win. It's like, it's like, it feels like it's not the same exact situation with Kobe Shack, but like, we saw Kobe have three titles by the time he was 22, right? And like, we saw Tiger have so many titles where we're like, how far does this go? And then it sucks when he goes away. He needs Pau. He needs Pau. Pau is Olisa for him, because he's, Olisa is the one who, like, he locks him. He's the one who, like, they time the runs perfectly with each other. That's why Florentino should pony up 200 for him. How is Shack Pauqua? Oh, we could go somewhere with this. No, they're not. It's too much dinner. Who's Declan Rice? Anyway, yeah, I mean, I just, like, listen, they're really good. They're going to win their group stage, they're going to make it deep. They feel semi-final right now. It feels semi-final to me, and to me, it should feel like everyone should be shitting their pants. Not to play with them. I know we haven't seen Germany twice, but that is the, I think, Germany, France, on the collision course in the, in the, in the 16, in around the 16, maybe, or, yeah, and then Spain, France in the same. Yeah, I think. Yeah, yeah. So it's, like, they have, like, a tougher route to the final, but that Germany, France, battery is going to be very illuminating, not only for this World Cup, obviously, because one team will go home, like, going forward, because they're both young-ish teams. How annoying would it be if you were on a team with someone who's like, yeah, I talked to the president, and we just talk about just basically anything. Just talk. Yeah, me and the president were like best friends. Just talk. Like, how annoying is that? Like, what a suck-up. Yeah, pretty much the president is one of my best friends, in fact. I mean, like, this guy's a loser. The president sucks. We're punk, okay? We're punk. We're just French footballers. We're the dead candidates. We're jello by Afro, okay? I think they're really good. It's not a panic meter. It just sucks, because I want to see the ball just like, I want to see it humming right now. I know. If you look at the roster, he's just like, he's, yeah, he's stat-pounding, and then, you know, eating a fucking world, he's, he has the fucking talent. But I just want to see, do a, and, uh, Dembele, and fucking, uh, Olise, and, uh, fucking, I, uh, you. Marcus Terram. Yeah. Marcus Terram. Yeah. And. We sure don't feel like Mateta. Don't feel like Mateta. Mateta, make this seem fast, guys. You'd rather watch Crystal Palace players than, and Bob Bay. I'd rather see Mateta with a shirt tucked in respectful of it on the crowd. Listen, they paid their harder money, Mateta's, and Tucky assured it. And like, uh, I'm sure, in your Roger, you're respectful enough of it. We should get, like, Roger and Mateta just tucking each other's shirts in. They're the two got, they're the only two guys with any matters in this whole goddamn sport. Uh, yeah. No, uh, let's move on. I kind of want to talk messy and briefly, briefly, because we're going to get, we're going to have a larger conversation about, kind of, I think what we were talking about is just the narrative of these two stories and where the stories are at right now and how they might end. And, uh. What's happening? What's the sad ending? Yeah. The, the, the, the, the contrast between the two is just, uh, it's, there's a, it's Shakespearean. And I know when I say things like that, you'll be like, oh, yeah, what Shakespeare is of that. And I'll be like, the best, probably, pretty much, uh, mid-Summer, nice tree. Yeah. Pretty sure much to do about nothing. Yeah. Uh, pretty much. Taming of a shrew. Uh, no. Uh, yeah. Uh, it's it. We, he. Messy is responsible for more times in my life where I was like, I can't believe I'm lucky enough to watch sports. I know that's really, like, sappy, but that's, that's literally how he makes me feel when I get seen. I, in his core to say, I like literally tweeted it, but like, we, it's been in the last 15 years of my life. I'm just seeing this. And it's like, we share a planet with this and like, we were watching this and the, yeah, at 38, 39, I think his dad is not doing well too. Yeah. Which is, his dad was the, uh, uh, uh, didn't bring him to Catalonia and get him out of New Orleans and then get him his medication when it's 13 and, uh, he's, and he's incredibly close to his family. Basically, like, he's, all this time off the pitch is basically spent with them. Uh, uh, there's something about the fact that we've gotten to watch this and it's like, it's, it's almost too obvious to say this, but that means that we don't even fully grasp how like amazing it is. It's, it's just amazing. Yeah. I hit. I like, I remember the, the, the last World Cup final and I, uh, I, I tried. I cried because I wanted him to have that one last thing, right? And I saw the way that he was treated by that, by that country for all this time and, uh, it wasn't fucking fair, right? They were like, you're worse than the cocaine that was good for like five years and he does, his most famous thing is using your hands, which is the number, that's the first rule of soccer. Don't use your hands, bro. No, I mean, Diego Armando is like, uh, uh, was obviously a genius himself. And, but it should have been that he is the new one. But I know that that was, that people didn't say that, but, uh, uh, it should have been like, oh, we have another, uh, I mean, there's a term in golden boy, it's called, uh, in Argentina. It's just the way he plays ball is just so it's like, no one else could even do, no one else has the option of doing that. It's also, yeah, it's so increasingly rare now because everything is data analyzed down to like the, the last step and to like, you know, how much are you reading the game? Where, where's your efficiency or XG or whatever? And I'm not even going against analytics, just like to see a guy who's like, the whole point of my game is that I walk for half of it. It's not even walk. He's standing. Yeah. He's literally still now. He's literally like the loser that they put in center field with like, it's T ball and he's like picking flour. He looks like he's just completely dead faced. And then there's something about him where I, like, I think I was trying to decide is it that he could see the future or is it that just like every single efficiency is occurring in his five foot six body where every single usage of energy is like, uh, is optimized. And it's, it's, uh, it's, it's, uh, he's not thinking. He's like, uh, he's flowing. Yeah. I think I said to you on the phone, have we seen him use a skill move in his career where they're times where we saw all that messy step over, right? Like, no, he's just playing orthodox like by the book, uh, ball at a level that no one ever will again. I'm sorry. It's like I know people say this is sports, right? Like I know like no one's ever gonna be as good as Bain Ruth again or something, but like no one can do this because it's it's not It's not possible It's just look at all the other guys around him from his generation from older generations talk about him There's not single-hater every single one like from T.I.R.A. and P.E.P.T. is a lot of time. Yeah It's just is foil and yeah, yeah, no everyone recognizes it. It's true except for his entire country who's mad at him for wanting to get medicine when he was 12 right and like and He and he had to leave his home and his entire life is his fucking family and he'll go leave his grandparents and leave his home So that he could do the thing. He just likes playing sports. That's it. There's no like there's no Kind of like trauma that like justifies. This is like a this is what I Where the mom was born. There's nothing. He is just it is it is It is all it's not about like Michael Jordan and Kobe being to shed their humanity to achieve greatness, right? He Doesn't have to motivate himself in any way. He's just go. He's good. I'm going to my job I don't think he knew now that I'm talking about them. I can't stop and I know we're going to get this to this on Tuesday I don't want to compare and contrast this with the rule. Yeah, but He I don't know if he has a concept of the fact that he's the greatest player of all time And I don't think it matters. I think he does because I think he loves competition that much I don't think he's unaware that he's playing of sport You know what I mean? Like there are some guys where it's just like I just like being in the flow state and being out there and playing But it's not like that deep to me. I think all this stuff really matters to him You can tell Does he actually like competition? Yeah, yeah, you think does he have added does he hate Ray Almondrid? I don't really think I don't know if it's that as much as but like you I've heard pep talk about about his competitive Like instincts before and they sound pretty singular. Yeah We'll give it into this more, but like it's it is special and I Mean I said a G last night he won the fucking ball and door and the World Cup at Inter Miami You know what the best thing about this cup so far has been is that like I think all the stuff the ancillary bullshit that sometimes happens in tournament football Whether it's rafts or the state of pitches or the weather or whatever it is and we can complain about hydration breaks Is that stuff's all moved to the background or fallen by the wayside and we've been able to be like Messy is goat is the goat England is looking really good You know like we have been able to concentrate on the football and like the stories and like the stories that are coming out are the stories that actually matter So yeah, it's it's a it's bored out of what the last 20 years of that I've watched the sport it feels like it it feels like it matches perfectly Yeah, a lot of the time is it sucks, right? And in fact, I'm saying but I was saying earlier I think it's a good boy like the hydration breaks have created kind of the competitive parity in the way that they suck We have had we haven't had a one dominant force and just it is pulverizing. There he is There you can do a What do you care per day only two blots? Yeah, yeah, we only had two blots and It I'm really just like I was thinking about like oh the corruption of feet fun Oh, the you know like the you know that them giving Trump an award. I'm like off fuck this and like but no, it's really I'm really loving it. I think by like pretty much the third match. I'm like I'm locked I'm loving that I'm watching ball this summer. It's cool. We get four games a day Again, it's awesome. It's unbelievable. I thought I would hate the extra teams I'm gonna be annoyed when I feel like there's some third third place group finishers who get through who I don't feel like Deserved to be in the knockouts or whatever, but yeah, this has been an awesome tournament so far Well, all they have to do is extend it to what How many more teams do they need to make a round of 32 the top two so yeah 64 team world cup. Yeah, do you think Italy makes that? No, yeah, no No, but like Vatican City Let's keep moving along. I just want a special shout out to Norway. I think I underrated them having that on your team It's again like we were saying the first match where we watched the United States like having flows of finisher and It's it's the minority of teams that have someone that can speak that can make it that good. Yeah He's the best in the world. He is a jug or not It's also funny to see you laugh at a bull first much as football is obviously the most popular sport in the world But like to see a whole new group of people be like who the fuck is this guy? Oh my god You know like people who are just watching football for the world cup seeing how to play is incredible Yeah, it's It is maybe the best box presence like dominant No, I've ever seen I think so by far like lottery can do everything right. He's messed forward. I've ever seen Holland is just he He yeah, I've never seen someone so dominant as like a and some of that needs four touches and has five goals You know like I it's just like a the guy the guy is incredible I will be at the Norway Senegal match on Monday night With the Palme in the store region and it's going to feel fucking weird to be sitting with the guys that look like that moving against Senegal. I don't yeah as in Jew. It's a little it's the her for an art seat. Yeah Well, I don't it's weird. I don't know that's a lot of strain. Okay, let's get to I like we'll get of course more to finish Aldo on Tuesday, but he is Is finished all though now are we moving out of the finished all the category the category for which he's named and putting him on The junior or perhaps live as a piano watch list. Yes. He is and he literally is in the whole piano He's also now causing divisions within the camp, which I mean he always he has for the last couple But like the Zhao Nevish like thing and and on Instagram. We're like now. There's like a hundred and fifty thousand Ronaldo bots and his mentions. Yeah Yeah, I mean Roberto Martinez is at the wheel. He's got this. I'm sure Dude, that's the huge difference between England, US, Brazil even and Portugal is like they don't have a guy who's gonna be like I'm I am taking you off. I am telling Neymar to go train by himself. Yeah I think this like, but he's not because like junior is just like seeing Isle. He doesn't know where he is He's living here. He's living because yeah, we're listening everyone's lives around it And like Janice has come back and That is going to be our Ronaldo. We got to put her in a fucking CR7 jersey. It's undignified He shouldn't be doing this to himself and he wants to play the next cup because it's in fucking Portugal and it's a you know Just a quick preview to Tuesday like We're seeing someone that is terrified of not doing the one thing he's done I want to see everybody play twice. Let's see him play twice then we can then we can close the the model We'll be even worse and shall God strike me down if that doesn't come true I will literally literally cut off my right arm Okay, sorry Yeah, it's it's hard to see this. I mean that men feel there's a decent joke like how it like Yeah, and to be fair Muppet not a comment on his talent, but a comment on his impact is doing that now and It I'm being over dramatic on the Muppet thing. They're gonna win a lot. Yes, but I Think it's kind of to shop is just a wing it. It seems like anything else you wanted to hit before we get out of here No, I think those are the matches I want to talk about Austria Jordan Fine or not a bitch. We'll put them on a smooth yon watch Columbia you Uzbekistan Borat whatever check I Thought it's Kazakhstan you the only thing only thing is Was that the Uzbekistan game I know my god my hero and yeah, who's not looks like 10 crews Everyone knows that swissula Bosnia Manzambi. That's a number two on your one SWAT number three big with three. Okay. Thank you Canada versus Qatar. She's incredible videos of the Bosnian fans marching through Englewood Yeah, the most clear that's ever been in England. It's scary Canada guitar six mill Jonathan David whatever not that good terrible injury that we saw Jesse Marshlicks. He's fucking Pep Coriola. He's the main character. Yeah, he's gonna get them in trouble Yeah, fucking Mexico South Korea still bad Mexico. I'm not even going to talk about it Her luck last second chance clearance Yeah, still so don't care Fuck off, and I'm not I love Mexico as a place Just don't like I'll try to get out of the group stage. Yeah, I'll try and get out of the group stage. Okay, so that is around up of the week We'll be back on Tuesday. We have a lot of cool segments and interesting thing planned United States probably gonna win the World Cup of Tifa Soccer. Yeah, for sure. For sure, bro. (laughing) It was a great day. Thanks for joining us, Chris, you had fun? I did, that was great. Thanks, babe. Anything else? You wanna add? No. Not even that thing you sent to me before the episode. I thought that word was in bad taste. (laughing) Let's see if the sensor is. Okay, goodnight, guys. Bye. (upbeat music)

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The United States men's national team delivered a strong first-half performance, showcasing tactical discipline and physical intensity, with key contributions from players like Aaron Kunde and a notable shift in strategy after halftime.
  2. England's match against Senegal highlighted a cohesive and aggressive playing style, with standout performances from Jude Bellingham and Jordan Pickford, while also revealing issues with consistency and player fitness, especially in midfield rotations.
  3. The tournament has emphasized dynamic, high-energy football reminiscent of club football, with tactical innovations such as smart substitutions and cohesive systems, reflecting the influence of modern, club-level coaching philosophies in international management.

Summary:

The United States men's national team made a powerful impression in their match against Australia, displaying strong tactical execution and relentless pressure in the first half, despite some questionable VAR decisions. Their performance exemplified a modern, proactive style of play that contrasts with traditional, defensive international football. England, meanwhile, showed a well-organized and aggressive approach, with standout individual performances, particularly from Jude Bellingham, though the team struggled with consistency and fitness.

The match dynamics underscored a broader trend in the tournament: high-intensity, system-driven football that mirrors club-level tactics, driven by coaches like Poach and Tuchel. The discussion also highlighted the impact of leadership and player psychology, such as the emotional resonance of Messi’s performance and the deep personal connection of players like Memphis Depay to their roots. Additionally, the commentary noted the growing influence of data-driven and emotionally intelligent coaching, with teams like France and England adopting more cohesive, fluid systems.

The narrative of the tournament has shifted toward meaningful, human-centered stories—such as the journey of a player like Messi or the family bonds of a player like Memphis Depay—over technical minutiae, creating a more engaging and emotionally resonant viewing experience. These dynamics point to a transformative shift in how football is being played and narrated globally, emphasizing not just skill, but resilience, identity, and emotion.

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The U.S. team played a strong and aggressive game, especially in the first half, where they capitalized on lucky breaks and defensive pressure. They showed resilience by standing up to Australia's attacking style in the second half, demonstrating a well-organized and tactical approach.

Aaron Kunde is highlighted as a key player due to his performance in the first match, despite not starting. He grew up in a refugee camp in Burundi, and his story adds depth to the narrative of resilience and determination in international football.

The U.S. team employed a high-energy, attacking style that emphasized constant pressure and movement, similar to the style seen in successful club football. This approach allowed them to take control of the game and counter effectively in the second half.

The team performed well without their key player in the first half, showing that they have a solid tactical structure and depth. The coach’s ability to rotate players and maintain intensity without a star player was a key factor in their success.

The U.S. team’s smart substitutions and rotations demonstrated a modern, professional approach to management, similar to top club coaches. This reflects a shift toward more dynamic and responsive team strategies in international football.

The appointment was met with skepticism and criticism, as Renard has a history of coaching African national teams and has been seen as a controversial figure. His appointment was viewed as a bold move, especially given his previous track record and the perceived intensity of his coaching style.

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