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[music] Hey, it's Avery. Welcome to Cheers. Hi, Kira. Hi. How are you? I'm good. I'm excited to be here. I have a confession. Oh, I'm scared you're. Okay, Tommy. No, it's just that it's my first podcast. Really ever? Yeah. See, I wish I would have known this before I would have dressed up for you. I'm honored. Thank you so much for being here. Of course. Yeah, thanks for having me. Wow, and you're so chill. I hope so. You really? See how it goes. Give me, like, let me get comfortable in 30 minutes. Okay. All right. Well, okay, let's start it off easy then for those that don't know you. Because I followed you on Instagram for years, years and years. How would you introduce yourself, describe yourself to people that don't know who you are? It's honestly my least favorite thing to do in any situation. But basically, I'm a modeling content creator. I grew up in Houston, Texas. I started full-time, like, on the modeling and fashion side of things. I started when I was 15. I'd work in Milan, Hamburg, Los Angeles, New York. I ended up moving here permanently to LA. And then somehow kind of wound up on the content creation side of things, like doing TikTok and Instagram. And I'd say during the pandemic that kind of took over and became more of, like, my full-time job. So I still do modeling and stuff here and there. But now I'm primarily a content creator. Yeah. You're probably one of the prettiest people I've ever met. And that's insane. But thanks so much. No, it's true. Because I will say, and I'm sure you've experienced this, because you've been in the industry for so long. But it is kind of a different world we live in when people share their lives online. And then you meet them in person and they look far different. You're like, wait, because of the editing apps. Yeah, yeah. And I've always talked about the fact that I've never had face tuner edited my photos like that before. And so I've taken photos of people that will ask to be face tuned and I'll meet people. And I'm like, my biggest fear should be like, are you Avery Woods? No, one of my friends always tells me that she's in marketing. And she's like, my worst fear is showing up and everyone being like, you look worse in person than you do online. And I'm just like, I'd rather than be like disappointed online, but I feel and look great in person. But I mean, I'm not immune. I've definitely, I'm definitely that girl that's like, give me a little, a little blur, a little judge. Oh, well, I was going to say you're even prettier in person, which I didn't know as possible. So are you. You're not wearing any makeup and your skin is like 100% perfect. It's like a road ad. Thank you so much. I literally did my normal morning routine, which is why I'm not ready, which is dropping. It's off at school and I went to my workout and then I came straight here as you should. Thank you. I appreciate it. If I did my normal morning routine, then anyone who does know me from Instagram might not recognize me on that. Actually, yeah, Tom, I'm obsessed with morning routines. So walk me through your morning routine. I get up without an alarm every day around 7 a.m. like my body naturally gets up at that time. And I try to lay in bed and I kind of go through. I'm like a big believer in manifestations and affirmations. And I go through my day in my head. Like I do what I call segment intentions. So I like intend what I want to happen for the day or how I want it to go. I love that. So if I'm going on a podcast, like I want it to go smoothly and I want to like be guided to have like answers that are like true to who I am, whatever it may be. You know, or if I have like an interviewer meeting that day, like intend kind of the day the way I want my day to go. So I kind of go through my day like that. And then I get out of bed. I go get now a decaf coffee. I have a caffeine allergy, which is so unfun. How did you discover that? I went through some health stuff last year. I kind of always would have heart palpitations and things that I would notice with my heart like for the past 10 years. And then last year I started waking up in the middle of the night with my heart going like 160 beats per minute plus just randomly in the middle of the night. Whoa. Went to so many cardiologists couldn't figure out exactly what it was like they said you could have an arrhythmia or this or that. I was wearing heart monitors and all of these things. And I started just kind of looking into it on my own and trying to see what I could do to optimize my health because if I'm being honest for my whole life, I've never really focused on my health that much. I very much I don't want to sound like pick me, but like I've always eaten horribly whatever I wanted that kind of thing. Drinking five coffees a day, whatever it was was like, I'm immune to caffeine, all these things. And it kind of just caught up with me, I think. So I started by cutting out a caffeine. I cut out sugar. I cut out carbs for three months and slowly the episode stopped happening. Cutting out sugar and carbs was like not realistic for me like they're my favorite things on planet earth along with coffee. And so I brought those back in and was fine, but I've left caffeine out and I haven't had an episode since last July. So like just going from caffeine to decaf, I think called my system enough that it's helped a lot. So I still drink coffee multiple times a day. I'm just like strictly a decaf girl now, which is kind of boring. But good for you for like following your instincts and figuring out yourself. Yeah, it was like I the doctors were starting to tell me they'd be like, you're probably going to figure this out before we do. And I was like, oh, that sounds really positive. Great. But I guess I did. So I get up, have my decaf coffee, take my dogs out. I always get like sun in my face to wake me up first thing in my garden. And then I get on my computer and I just immediately get on my emails and get my day going. If I'm at home all day doing meetings, like I won't turn my camera on once I will be in my robe until I go to bed that night. Like I'm not a get up, get ready, get dressed person. Unless I have to and I'm leaving the house and I'm like going to be seen somewhere. Yeah, then it's the hair and the makeup and all that. But otherwise like I'm bumming it in my robe until I go to bed in the same robe. That's how I feel. Like if I didn't have kids, I probably would never leave my house. Oh, when I have kids, it's over. Yeah, which is probably bad. Except I do love grounding. Like I will say if I'm in a really bad mental health space, my favorite thing to do is just go out in the backyard and soak in the sun. Like 100%. I'll do it. I'll just open my robe up. I can't see. And I'm just like, that's how our house is super private. And I'm like, I will literally go on naked. I don't care. Like just to get sun on your face or putting my feet in the sand at the beach like I did that yesterday for Mother's Day and it was so relaxing and it's so important because it's so easy to just stay inside all day. But I mentally it will like mess me up. Oh, yeah, I work like on my patios always. I'm in my patio in my garden. I'm like, I need some kind of shade for my laptop so I can actually see what I'm doing. But I'm like, I have to be in the sun for a few hours a day minimum. I have a laptop umbrella. I've looked it up because you know how like photographers when you're at photo shoots outside, they always have their little thing. And I'm like, I need one of those. I just haven't actually done it. It's like added to the Amazon card on the like save for later where I have like everything I've ever mentioned to anyone ever. But yeah, my save for later, I think has like over a thousand items. So it's like you go back and you're like, what, when did I think I needed this? Sometimes I'll look and I'm like, I don't even know the context of why I added that to my part. So got lost in translation. My husband's like, can you clear that out? Like, what is in here? Okay, so you started modeling at 15 you said. Yeah. How did that come about? I feel like most girls that I've met in the modeling industry when I was growing up, I always would hear this story of girls getting like discovered in a cafe or they were like playing volleyball or whatever. And like a scout happened to show up. And I always found it so discouraging because I grew up being like, I want to be a model. I'm going to be in the fashion world like that was my dream. And so I was like, oh, it sucks. It feels like everybody just has to be scouted out of the blue or discovered and they like didn't even have a desire to or whatever. But I grew up wanting to I was like five foot eight at age 12. So I was super tall. I was like, I think I could do this. I never grew another inch. I'm still five foot eight. So it was something I wanted to do. And I begged my mom. I was like, let's figure this out. So there wasn't that many opportunities there. But there was like two agencies. And do an agency then was you went to a modeling school, which sounds like a complete scam. Like I begged my mom. She was super like feminist. She just didn't want me to be put into any bad positions or being even in like put in competitions with girls. She didn't like the idea of like pageants because she didn't want girls competing with each other. And like the self esteem exactly. Yeah. She wanted me to be exploited obviously she was like follow your dreams, but also like I want to protect my daughter. I'm not quite sure about this. But she's like, you know what? We'll just pay for this little modeling school. She's like, you're going to have to pay me back. And let's see, you know, it could be fun for you to just learn how to like walk and have good posture and all of those things that I grew up obsessed with just beauty fashion runways all of it. So we did the modeling school and I just ended up not being a scam actually and they sent me from the school to the agency that they were connected with. And at that point they started booking me on work like in Houston. I was actually maybe 13 years old when I first started working in Houston. And then whenever I turned 15, they were like, okay, we want to send you to Milan. And at that point, while I was in high school during the summer, they were sending me overseas to different markets to try things out and like they call it building your book where you get images for your portfolio beyond what you could get like in Houston, Texas, which is really slim. You're not going to be shooting with the best photographers out there. Yeah. So that's kind of how I got into the modeling world. Well, what was it like growing up in Texas? I really liked it. Like for me, it was such like a calm grounding up being upbringing like we had such a big backyard on a lake. Lots of animals all the times. I had turtles, hamsters, bunny rabbits. We're always rescuing dogs, rescuing cats. Like my parents have this industrial business. And they have like a big warehouse shed situation. And they are always finding little kittens that have been you know, that they find in the shed or whatever and they bring them would bring them home and we bottle feed them and stuff. So like I loved it so much. I still like going back home because that's just kind of my grounding place where I get back to like my roots and not caring about anything. I have no anxiety when I'm there. However, I could not live there now. I'm very LA. Like at this point, I'm LA through and through. I can't help it. I can't I love my like community goods in Airworn and it's bad, right? We don't even have whole foods where I'm from. You know, if they like gasp when you ask for your like almond milk and they're like, Oh man, what kind of animal do you milk for that? I'm like, no, literally not an almond almond milk. It's so true. They like don't they not understand it's kind of scary like how quickly you adopt to LA and then you leave it And I think the reason is because it's everything is so accessible Totally it's so accessible and it's easy to have a healthier lifestyle Yeah, you know truly and be able to go to the beach and ground in nature and Go for a hike. Yes. Yeah, like we're from is very flat like you go to I hop you go to Chili's There's a few local restaurants and it's like I mean, I love a good triple Dipper though. Oh love a triple chili the mole and lava cake fire That was my jam still would be it just chillies is like I don't know where the closest one is here honestly Yeah, I'm in the valley so we have them everywhere But like on my birthday I went to chillies because my kids wanted to go and my son Then a week before my son and my husband went to like a monster jam thing It's my daughter and I had a girl's day and we like went to the American girl doll store and like went shopping I was like what do you want for a lunch and she was like I want Chili's monster holostics. That is the ideal day as a American girl doll day. I never had one of those I wanted one I didn't either I didn't have like I so I saved up my allowance And I was like eight and that was when they had the magazines. Oh, yeah And so I I called with my mom and we ordered one but the only like dying in American girl doll store at that time Is in New York. Yeah, I'm like we couldn't afford to do that Totally and so giving that opportunity to my daughter was so special and they had like the little like like high-chair for her daughter All and she's like feeding her food. It was so cute. Oh, that makes me so I hope whenever I have babies one day have a daughter Oh, it's it's so fun and like the girly stuff like she's at her vanity every day putting on clear lip gloss before preschool No, that's so cute now the and I gave her like a little bit of powder blush She'll like shot my little PR cabinets as if it's like Sephora You know and so I gave her like a really light pink like powder blush And I was like okay, that's fine with like clear lip gloss like that's it. Yeah, you're not even fine Yeah, yeah, yeah, and one of the moms at school was like are you letting Stevie put blush on because my daughter asked if she could put blush on I was like I am so sorry for like starting She's starting to hold they're all gonna be beauty influencers now. I know I was like I'm so sorry So I was like no more blush at school. You can do it on the weekend. Yeah, but it's fun. It's really fun Do you feel like your whole life you were really drawn to beauty fashion makeup? Modeling all of that or do you feel like because you came from Texas grounded on a farm that it came later in life for you I kind of was always drawn to it and I don't know why to be honest because it wasn't something I was Surrounded by or like I didn't have that influence of anyone in the fashion world or anyone who really cared about Like hair and makeup or glam or anything like that So I'm not really sure where that desire came from it just kind of hatched out of me But I will say whenever I was in elementary school in my small town randomly There was a little girl that was an actress in my school and she would leave and go to LA every couple months to like film movies And this was when we were maybe six or seven years old her name was sky and She was one of my best friends and I remember thinking like oh my gosh what sky does is so cool She goes to LA and she works with all these people and gets to be in movies and I just I really looked up to her And I thought it was so amazing that I remember that's kind of where I think that dream sprouted of like maybe I could do something in the industry Because otherwise I don't know that that would have ever you know every little girls like I want to be a pop star or something like that But I don't know that the dream would have really sprouted Mm-hmm And so I think I was like I want to be an actress and then I started getting tall and kind of gangly at that point And people were like maybe you should be a model and I was like that's it That's what I want to do with my life. Yeah, it just kind of sprouted from there. Are there any models Throughout your life that you've looked up to or admired particularly totally and I've Kind of stopped doing that Yeah, because I've it's been awesome and I've had the opportunity to work with and meet so many like of my heroes now Which has been amazing, but I've also been disappointed from time to time meeting Some of them like I've met models that have been like on my vision board from the time I was little like OG Super models where I was like oh my gosh. This is my number one. I love her I idolize her when I was younger and then I would meet them years later and have like a disappointing experience You know, so I totally look up to all the greats Like Cindy Crawford's Claudia Schiffer's the 90s girls. Yeah, and now I have people that like that I know that I look up to who I'm like I love you and you have a great work ethic and you're a nice person But now I don't I don't idolize anyone based off of photos or based off the internet anymore either I feel the same exact way. Yeah, I also think it completely changed my mindset on Social media because I've seen I've met so many people that I've really looked up to and who are publicly worshiped. Yeah, and I'm like I'll meet them be like if people knew how you like treated other people How you acted business how you run your data day. Yeah, how you talked to your assistants? Yes or makeup artists Sometimes like really famous makeup artists or like brand owners. I'm like Like I've heard horror stories from like their assistants that then you work with. They just really sad No, it's so sad it really it's it really like you take off your rose colored glasses and you're like oh Got it. I'm no longer yeah, I mean there are people on the internet that I'm sure people that mean you know Yeah, oh yeah, everyone would like get down on their knees for these people They would do anything they would die for them if they tried to get canceled They'll have their back but in reality. It's like everyone behind the curtains is like wait a minute I know persons not that nice, but what's crazy to me too is I'll just never understand I don't care who you are how successful you are how much money you have we're all just humans It's so easy to be nice. It's so easy to be nice Even selfishly like I'm like if you don't actually care about other people isn't it just more fun for you to be nice for me It's selfishly. I mean I care about other people But it's selfishly more fun for me to go out about my day and be nicer to other people I just have a better day like yes I read better results in the world when I'm nice to everyone versus whenever I have an attitude or it puts you in a different mood And like I don't want to bring people down I also feel like when I'm working or on set or doing something where there's a million people around me running their Ass-off working so hard. I've like make it apparent to be extra nice and extra thankful Yeah, because I'm like people only see the image on the screen and what's in front of the camera But like you don't see the hundreds of people behind the scenes that are working so hard To bring this vision to life and sometimes I'm always like how is it not more known about these people not being nice But then I'm like oh and D.A.s and it's just so important to make everyone feel seen like I've been in rooms with models where I'm like we had a dinner together the night before and I call my mom being like guess who I'm best friends with now I'm geeking out, you know, I'm that girl calling my mother in the bathtub afterwards being like we're best friends I'm gonna see you're gonna. Tomorrow and I see you're the next day and I'm like oh my gosh. Hi I'm Kara. I had dinner across from you yesterday at this charity gala or whatever it was and they're like wow really I'm like no. Oh My god, I called my mom. I said we're best friends now. Yeah, take it back. I'm sorry. I'm like never mind I'm like I don't know where to go from here, you know, yeah, and also it's like if you don't remember just fake it That's my I'm she'd been like oh, I'm so happy to see you. She fully remembered She just wasn't it wasn't having it with me. That's the thing. Yeah, making people feel feel seen like if I don't fully Remember someone and they came up to me and they're like oh my god, so good to see you like I'm gonna give you a hug back I'm not gonna question it. I'm like yeah, we've met at some point. Mm-hmm. It's easy to be nice. Yeah, I agree. It's easier It's awkward to not be I fully agree when did you move to L.A. full time? Maybe 11 or 12 years ago. I've kind of lost track at this point But the minute I graduated high school. Like I said, I kind of tried the different markets for modeling L.A. I had the most success one is a model here and then two I just liked the lifestyle here like we said that healthy lifestyle The sunshine New York seemed like a very big jump from where I was from in Houston, Texas like that seemed Two different for me. Yeah, like it was gonna drain my energy and I love New York for a short bit of time But I was like I don't think I could live there permanently and L.A. seemed like a realistic place that I could live other than the fact that like it is Significantly more expensive to live here than where I came from in Texas. Oh, it's insane Insane I will say though I feel so lucky to be able to afford to live here and I yeah I think the reason that I'm okay with the cost of living being more is just because of the amenities and the lifestyle And like my kids be able to play outdoors every day and having access to the beach and just the weather is like I'm like I'll pay the taxes I'll do it because if it was affordable everyone would live here and then yeah be hard for everyone to live here already So many people are here, but if it was super affordable it'd be why wouldn't you want to move to California? It's got like the best weather ever you've got the beach you've got every restaurant you could desire you've got the city You've got heights you've got the snow if you want it like you have every single option you could think of yeah We're spoiled yeah the taxes are for the weather honestly seriously, but I'm the same I tell people I love New York But for like three to four days at a time because I get over simulator. Oh, yeah like a week and I'm good and I'm like I might have a great hair 100% but it had fun, you know, that's how I feel I love New York around so beautiful on the holidays great restaurants, but like see The other the other hard thing for me too is like everyone in New York wants to eat it like 11 p.m. For their dinner I can't do it. I love like like six p.m. I've been asleep two hours ago totally like I can't do that anymore I'm not I'm not living that life and then I think it's funny too and this is so random But when people complain about places like Paris or say it's dirty or smells like have you been in New York before? Like the smells in New York or something else. Oh, it's wild. You know, you don't know what you're stepping in You know, you're walking on that's why you don't want to see what you actually you do know down You know you just don't want to tell yourself. Yeah, you're just like a hundred percent wait I was gonna ask you center. You're an air one girl. Lee did you try Chris Jenner's mother's day? I didn't and I told myself I would I told myself I wouldn't I forgot to I wonder how long they're keeping it around I was gonna go yesterday But I knew we're at the beach with the kids and I knew the line was gonna be long, but I I want to try it so bad I know I would do any I'll try anything that she's involved in honestly and I'll try any air one smoothie at this point So I know her I? video of her making it behind the counter was iconic, but then just like her face lift is really just another level. Oh, I know. I'm like, I'm gonna take notes for when I'm 65. 100%. I'm like, you are a sister now. I'm saving that. Yeah. She's 100% a sister. It's crazy. What was your first impression of LA versus now? I mean, this hasn't really changed, but one, I was like, wow, everyone is beautiful. Like, I remember that was the first thing I thought when I came, I was like, I left Texas being like, I can be a model. And I came to LA and I was like, never mind everyone's a model here, you know, like everybody is gorgeous, fit, healthy, everybody is youthful. Like, I just thought everyone was stunning. The other, the impression I had that I think was wrong is that I thought everyone was superficial. And of course, people do care, there are different things they care about here, but same with there are different things they care about in Texas. There are different things you're gonna find bad apples everywhere you go. Wall in LA, I would feel like, oh, someone's gonna judge me if I don't have like the nice bag or the nice shoes or the nice things. In Texas, I kind of feel like when I go out, they might judge me if I do. If I wear a mini dress to my supermarket with high heels on and my hair done, just that alone. Exclude bags, shoes, anything. People would be like, who does she think she is? Like, what is she doing at the supermarket in a mini dress? So I would probably say something to me. Like, when I was younger and I'd wear little booty shorts and Hootie shorts out, women would stop me and be like, miss your asses out, you know, and I'm like, I know. Obviously, I try it out. Yeah. But yeah, it's like they're gonna judge you for different things. So I kind of learned in LA, not everyone's from LA. They're from everywhere else. So you've just got to find your good group of people. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, your core, your core group. Yeah. I agree. I'm true. You always doubled in social media, but you really took off an influencing role during the pandemic, because that what you said? Yeah. Was that just because kind of everything was shut down and shoots were really going on? And a little bit. I really got, I hopped on TikTok kind of early on. And during the pandemic, like everyone, I was bored and I got on TikTok and I think I got on it just early enough before there were too many fashion and like beauty creators on TikTok. And so at that time, it was super easy to get a viral video. Oh yeah. You do, you know, a little outfit transition, you would, you know, jump in your outfit would change. Like that was so remarkable. Yeah. And it would get millions of views. And you could wake up with like 200,000 more followers in a week, whereas now the algorithm's not like that. Yeah. So there was that. And then there was, yeah, at the time, like some of my modeling clients were calling my agent and saying like, can she produce the shoot at home? Can she just do it on her own? Because we can't be in a studio for this, this job or the shoot. And I would produce the shoots in my living room on my own. And I started thinking like, okay, I'm hairstylist. I'm makeup artist. I'm photographer now. I'm creative director. I'm doing all these things in my friend and marketing who's helped me so much was like, girl, you shouldn't be charging modeling rates anymore. Like you're now producing the whole thing like you should just be a creator. You should just be an influencer. Like you'd get paid so differently. And at the time, all my content creator jobs were going through my modeling agent. And like he truly didn't know what to charge for like influencer stuff. It's different than modeling. Unless you're like legitimately one of the great obviously, you're like Bella Hadid. Like you're going to have an insane modeling rate. But otherwise as a content creator, you can honestly make so much more money. It's got its own challenges, but it's so much easier. Modeling is so much harder than like filming TikToks and doing brand deals. Absolutely. I fully agree to that. And I've seen and been friends with models. And I see what they do day in day out. And it's so different. And as a content creator, we have such a privilege. Like it's such a privileged job to be able to and it's hard work. Don't get me wrong. Like I was an ICU nurse. I worked during the pandemic and I will never compare what I do. Yeah. So you know hard work. Yeah. So I know I know what hard work is. But also I see the other side when people are like, how hard could it be? And I'm like the challenges are different. You're comparing an apple to an orange. There's there's challenges with everything that you do. And living life in the public eye with millions and millions of unwarranted opinions from people that don't know you is really hard. Yeah. It can just give you like an anxiety that like a lot of people can't relate to, which is okay. Yes. But it's just that that little bit of anxiety knowing that like if you share things about yourself, they're going to be potentially scrutinized. You're like, shit on. And it's you just living your life. And sometimes people say stupid things or do stupid things they don't mean. But when it's on the internet, it's forever. Yeah. How do you think the influencing Instagram world has evolved and changed since when you started versus now? When I first started and I was a model, I remember it was like corny to be considered like an Instagram model. Like I was like, oh, I don't want to be an Instagram model. So for me, I started noticing when it became important. I was going to castings and they're like, how many followers do you have? And I was like, what? Why is that relevant? Really? Yeah. Like it would I was like, shouldn't you just care about my portfolio? It became kind of this relevant thing. And so it kind of started with me posting more like modeling photos and selfies and things like that and growing a following that way. I feel like Instagram in the beginning for everyone. I think now it's still equally as curated, but people kind of hide it under the guys of it being organic. Like these organic photo dumps and real in the moment things and obviously now short form video, which we never had. I mean, that's like probably the biggest change would be short form videos. Yes. TikToks and like everybody having the opportunity to become a creator. Anyone, anybody with a phone can get on TikTok and film something, get a lot of views and build a platform. Whereas in the beginning, it was like curated selfies and stuff on Instagram. So I'd say short form video has changed. And then now I think everything is more like organic photo dumps and real in the moment and people being vulnerable. But I always say I'm like, don't get it twisted. Everyone's still curating. Yes. Organic, perfect like curated photo dump of their weekend. Yes. Even though they're in a hoodie eating hot cheetos. Like that was intentionally chosen for the cool girl vibes and the dumps. Absolutely. Yeah. It's all very intentional. Totally. I think it has evolved to become also very negative. That's true. Like I think the hate has gotten insane and out of control. There's just so many eyes on everything and everything. Yes. And every one's to be an expert in every field. And yeah. Yeah. Easy to be a hater when you're behind a screen with no profile picture. I think TikTok's the worst though. Yeah. Because TikTok is pushed out to so many people that don't know you or like don't follow you for who you are. You can get the most love or the most hate on TikTok. Yes. And it could very video to video. You can have one video and everybody like loves you just in that one video. And then the next one you're like, oh, they set the wrong side of TikTok or whatever it is. I think you have one of the most aesthetically pleasing Instagrams I've ever seen. Like everything is so soft and like natural and really beautiful. And you can tell it's very intentional. Walk me through so I personally can take notes. How you plan that? What a shoot looks like for you for Instagram. Do you do it yourself? Do you have help? Like I need the tips. Okay. Well, thank you. First of all, that's such a great compliment. I do try really hard with my feed. Probably like an embarrassing amount, honestly. But it's your job. It is my job. And that's how I've always looked at social media is like a job. Like I'm not on there sharing just every bit of my personal life on social. Like I look at it as kind of my work and now as my new version of my portfolio. So as much as I want to be that organic cool girl with the photo dumps, I just can't do it. Like if I'm being honest, I'm not one to like organically create content just out and about throughout my day. Like I have an assistant I meet with once a week and we get together and we do like content days. So I will batch content and shoot like organic looking but curated. That's why I say everything that looks organic online is not necessarily organic because we will batch shoot content together. Social come to my house will me out and about will shoot all of our content together. And then I go home and add my filters and whatever. And that's kind of my content for the week. And then I plan my grid. I'd say definitely tick talk. That is where I'm so much more organic. Like anytime I'm getting ready if I'm going to dinner with a friend, I'm going to film it and talk about my week or whatever drama or just a makeup tutorial, whatever it may be and put it on tick talk. But Instagram like I curate it. I find it so hard when I'm in the moment having like lunch with a friend. I'm not like, oh, let's get photos. Take photos of me. I can't do it. Yeah. I use to but now I'm like I've got it. If I want to keep photo at that restaurant, I'm going to plan it and go do it. Like it's my job because it is. It's nice to do it in a batch though and like knock it all out. And then rest a week and can bum it. And you can relax. And I feel like if I'm going somewhere and planning in my head, like, okay, I have to do content. I need to get a photo or a video. I can't relax until I get a thing. You're thinking about it. It sounds so pathetic. But it's like you're thinking about it while you're eating. And I want to enjoy or like the food comes out. And now it's getting cold because you wanted a photo with a pancake in front of you. And how ridiculous. And it's like that. It's so I'm like, let's live our lives. I know. And then I can batch this out and treat it like a job. And that's what I tell anyone who wants to get into content creation. Just treat it like a job because it is. If you want it to be your job, treat it like a job, plan it like that so that you can still have a life outside of it where you're not. And not everyone does. I have met and I'm sure you've seen content creators who are like on their phone, 20 for the day. They walk in a restaurant. They're like walking in and then they're filming the dinner and they're filming this. And you're like, I can't hold a conversation with you. It's so hard. And I have learned as I've gotten older to just live in the moment and put my phone down. And now it's like, if I don't want to post on TikTok for a week, I won't. Yeah. It's like I should let yourself have it. And like back like what you were saying growing on TikTok, like that's my largest platform during the first surge of the pandemic when I worked as a nurse in 2019 was when I first started posting. And it wasn't even consistently, but it was like what you said, like you can just blow up. Totally. At that time. At that time. Spaghetti and it have like a few million views. Yes. Yes. No concept. No reason. And it took me five seconds. I wouldn't even think about it. I would just hit post. And then when I realized the algorithm was pushing creators that were posting like three to five videos a day, I literally promised myself. I was like, you will post three to five videos a day while I worked full time as a nurse for two years. I didn't not take a day off. Wow. And I would like it anxious. It'd be like five people. I haven't posted my fourth video. Four videos. Like I was not even like it never now. But then never. It was motivational then too though, because everything would perform well. And so then you were like, yes. I got to keep it going. Yes. And I don't have any work like I that was hard work. And I put a lot of work ethic in. And that's how I was able to grow my platforms. And so I don't regret it at all. Yeah. But now I found the healthy balance of like not everything needs to be recorded. Put your phone down. Enjoy your moment with your people. and like look up from your screen. - 100% I mean, at least back then, I was like you didn't have the phoma we weren't going out to eat with friends, so it wasn't like, you could be at home and you're screening, you didn't have that guilt because you're like, I'm not ruining my dinner out with my friend, I'm ordering postmates at home. - Yes. - Or cooking for myself, I was so paranoid, I was scared to even get postmates at first. You know that first like month or two, where I was like, or even I forget how long, six months, who knows, where I was like, it's in the food because somebody could have breathed on it, you know? - Oh no one would see me. - Oh yes. - I would cross my dog, I'd cross the street to the other side. - Oh it was insane. Like I, even my leisure hair removal place was like, we see in your chart that you are a nurse, are you working with COVID patients? And I said, why work in the pediatric ICU? So like we're not getting COVID patients every day like adults, but like yeah, we get them. They refuse to see me. - Oh they were like, stay back girl. - Yeah, it was crazy. I had to have a C section with a mask on, even though I had a negative COVID test. - Fever dream. - I can't believe it was like a real, that was a real time. - We were ready. - We lived through it and now here we are. - I know. - Like it never happened. - It's really so wild. I was gonna ask you and I just was staring at you and was thinking about it. I wanna know like your top five makeup products right now. - Makeup by Mario, the soft sculpt bronzer. - The best. - Everyday. - Meltent tears, skin. - And look at it. - And obsessed with that. - Yep. - There's a lip liner, I can't live without. It's Urban Decay Naked too. - Buying that in me. Is that what you're wearing right now? - I'm wearing Tom Ford Ear Asistable on top of it. So if I'm like gonna be on camera, I like to do like an even darker lip liner. So Urban Decay Naked too is my everyday. And then Tom Ford Ear Asistable is like if I was gonna do a carpet or be on camera or do like a photo shoot or something. - Can you write that down, Jazzy, and text us later, 'cause I'm buying now. It's a four-hour offer right now. - Lip liner is, I could fill all five beauty products with just lip liners. - And do you have like nubs everywhere you go? Because I'm such a dedicated lip liner girl that it's like, it's wherever one or, or anywhere caffeine, makeup forever. - Wherever Walnut was one of my top, it's still probably my top three. - Yeah, if I'm needing something that I know is gonna work, just give it to me. But I just have nubs, my husband's like, "Do you need, I'm like, yes, don't waste that." - It'll be down to here. I had one from Mark Jacobs that got discontinued 'cause the whole line did. And the way I kept that nub for it, I was like, I'm sending this to a manufacturer and I'm starting a lip liner business. - You should. - And I'm gonna only have one product and it's gonna be the Mark Jacobs Nudist lip liner in my own packaging. Because I'm gonna do this product. I think eventually dried out, but I might still have it in my drawer because I couldn't let it go. And it's like, it was a twist stop and it was down to, I'm talking like a millimeter. - I think I didn't even wanna use it 'cause I wanted to savor it. - I think I have like an emotional attachment and PTSD from wherever Walnut because I was obsessed with it and then Haley Bieber had to say it was her favorite and then it sold out everywhere. And so I was just keeping nubs. - Then you're terrified, you're like, it's gonna get sold out or it's gonna be dis, if you love one too much, they discontinue it. - Every time. - Every time. - It's like too popular, they're like, take it away from you now. I'll just make you want us more. - Yeah, okay, so we are soft school. We got our lip liner. - What's your lip liner? I'd say the NARS Radiant Creamy Concealer every single time. - Custard, I'm custard. - Everyone I know, not everyone, but like three of my best friends are all custard. We all have very different skin tones. And I'm like, how are we all? - My friend who's Egyptian has a ferrous skin ever. She's custard and I'm custard. My mom who's super tan is custard. I'm like, how is this happening? Kevin Aquan Glass Glow Highlighter? Have you tried Victoria Beckham's Highlighter? - I have it and everybody talks about, I need to try that because I've think I've tried every other highlighter and I'm really picky with highlighters. - It's incredible. - And I think it's one I haven't tried. I need to actually, I haven't really tried any of her products. - So, oh, okay. Randomly she sent me PR and I became obsessed with her eyeliners. She's an incredible, like smudgy eyeliner for like the perfect smoky eyeliner. - I just saw if every time I see a video of her products, I stop and watch it. I don't know why I haven't just gone into. Her mascara is incredible. Her stylist, Juan Contour Stick is the perfect nose contour. I'm telling you, you would love it. Like, it's literally like the road lip liner size. - Yeah. - But for a contour. So you could do your whole face or I love doing like on my lower lash line or on my nose. - Yeah, I need that. - Yeah, and then my friend was like, you have to try her highlight stick. I love the Merit one. - Yeah, that one is good. - The highlight bond. Yeah, but literally the same thing my friend told me about it, I got it in PR and she only has two shades. And it is like the most glow from within highlight, like melt into your skin. It's gorgeous, you would love it. - I'm actually gonna go get it 'cause one of my makeup friends, makeup artist friends told me to get that the other day. And she was gonna bring it to, I'm crazy and I do my own makeup for photo shoots, but they usually have a makeup artist on set anyways, who's like doing hair and can touch up makeup. Whatever, and she's like, I'm gonna bring it for you. So you can try it during the shoot. And I think she forgot, so I haven't tried it, but it's been on my list since then. So I'm gonna get it. I have a highlighter addiction honestly. What about blush? 'Cause you have great blush on right now. - Blush, I probably have four later. I layer everything. - I love for blush. - Meat, there's never enough. And nobody ever puts enough on it. If a makeup artist says my makeup, I'm like, keep it going. - Yes, because it's the first to wear off. - It's probably gone off my face right now. I'm probably just like hot 'cause I'm refusing to take off my makeup. - No, you're perfect. - There's one from this brand called RMS Beauty. - I love RMS. - I love RMS. - They have one called Illusive. I use that, that's like my daily, everyday, probably my favorite. And then for powdered blushes, Kosa has one called Dreamland. That I really, really like. There's another one that hourglass. There are new blushes. You like shake 'em, you turn 'em upside down and you put one drop. Like you get a drop out of the dropper. - No. - So they have these new blushes and highlighters where you like shake it and squeeze the tube. And like one drop comes out. And it is so pigmented. I don't know the color. - 'Cause I love their ambient palettes. Like I, oh, that's a good green. - I like their powdered blushes too. Yeah. - They have a liquid blushes and there's one that I've been wearing. It might be called Divine, but don't quote me. I really don't know. - Okay. - The color, but they're really good. - All right, my Sephora app's gonna be stacked after this conversation. - I was gonna be able to send this and bring it in and get all the Victoria back on. - Oh, it's amazing. And like, I don't know if you watched her, their documentary on Netflix. - I haven't, no. - It's amazing. And she talks about like her beauty line and she just puts like a lot of effort. She's very hands on with her friends. - You can tell, I mean, even the packaging is like so beautiful and so incredible. - It's incredible. It wasn't like a fast-done company. - And I really appreciate when I get PR and you can tell the efforts in like she sends it and like a really beautiful satin or velvet bag that I genuinely use when I like pack my stuff or if I'm going on a trip. But her stuff is very good and it's really universal. Like for example, the contour stick, I can line my lips with it. I can contour my entire face. I can put it on my lower lash line. - That's what I like. - Getting like three or four products. - Yeah, you're like, I use my blush on my lips, my cheeks on tip of my nose and my eyes. Like getting something that you can use on everything and having like four of those in your bag and just layering it. - Yeah, yeah, love. - Are you single? - I'm not. - You the boyfriend. - I have a boyfriend. I've been in a relationship since the seventh grade with the same person. - You're lying. - No, I'm not lying. - Really? Have you ever shared that? - I have, yeah, I've actually, like I said, I've kept my personal life on social media has been really private. - I respect us so much. - Like the amount I'm on social media have definitely kept so much about my personal life. Like not a secret, but like I haven't posted about it. But I've done like a couple, especially on TikTok. I'll do videos where I just kind of subtly throw it out there and it's so funny to me, the comments and the assumptions that people make. I just did one the other day where I was like, you know, my boyfriend of 18 years made this remark about my makeup or whatever. Actually, we did the math and it's 20 years, which makes me sound. - Are you a really old time? - I'm actually in shock right now. - I thought I was 18 and my boyfriend counted the other day. It was our anniversary and he was like, babe, it's 20. And I was like, what are you talking about? What do you mean? But everyone in the comments is like, boy friend, she said boyfriend, you know, who's gonna tell her? Or where's the ring girl, you know? It's only the man's decision, whatever. And I just think it's so funny when I share 0.05% of my life online. I do a lot of people, even people who seem like they share their whole life online. Nobody's sharing everything online. The assumptions that people make are, oh, he must be like her sugar daddy. And I'm like, babe, you think I was scouting for a sugar daddy at 12? (laughing) You guys planning that at 12? Captive them all these years after my master plan in seventh grade, it's hilarious though. - Okay, I won't get too into it. But like I do have so many questions internally. Number one, the fact that you guys have stayed together and you traveled so much as a model. So he's obviously from Texas. And then he came to LA with you. Like, how has that been? Like obviously he's been the secret for me. - I love keeping a long-term relationship. I think it's so important whenever you do a relationship for that long that you grow together. - Yes. - One, which doesn't always happen obviously. It's why a lot of people aren't in super long relationships like that. - That you grow together, that you have your rock, you have loyalty and honesty. Like for me, he was always there kind of grounding me. So whenever I was going off to different places and doing different things, I always had my rock, my support system at home. And then because I was kind of living my own life and doing my own things outside of just our relationship, it wasn't like we were spending every waking second together. We had time to miss each other. So it wasn't ever like super stale. So while he's like my home and I go home and feel so comfortable with him, it's not like I think it's important to have your own life or either whether it be your career, your life, your time with your girlfriend, something outside of your relationship with your significant other. Because whenever I see people in relationships where they spend every waking second together, they work together, they're sleeping together, obviously they live together. And then you're bringing him on. The girls, dinners and stuff now, it's like you're gonna get tired of each other at some point. You're gonna have fights, you're gonna get tired of each other, you're gonna get resentful that he's involved in every single thing you do. You need to have your own life and things that you enjoy outside of your relationship. So I think that's been kind of a key to staying together for you all now. - Good for you. Yeah, I've been with my husband. I'm 31, I was met him when I was 18. - I think I heard that in the podcast episode. you did not like you get it. Yeah, I do. And I for other people to get it when they haven't been in a relationship. Yes, long. They're like, how if you Yes, lasted this long? What is it? But whenever you find someone that is like your support system and you're wrong in your comfort zone, you're like, this is what I know. This is what it is. And also, I love what you said about growing, like choosing to grow together because when I was 18, I was a freshman in college, I worked at Starbucks. I had nothing to my name. I was applying to nursing schools, like that was my goals. I want to be a nurse. And obviously life took a turn and I feel immensely privileged and in what I do now and the way life has gone. But like, obviously, it's a huge change and like becoming more of a public figure and living life in the public eye and leaving my nursing career. And then obviously, like having a family becoming parents, that's also a really hard challenge to a relationship because you can't put each other first. And anymore, your kids will come first. And so I really resonate with that because we've lived so much life together. Is your man in the public eye too? He doesn't even have social media. That's that's my man. And like that's also the secret. Get you a man on social media. Yes, that part. He doesn't even have the apps on his phone. And I love it so much. That's beautiful. I love it so much because he keeps me grounded. He keeps me humble. And like, if I'm having a hard day or you know, people are being mean, whatever, he's like, you live in real life. Yeah, that's my loser. He's like, who cares? These are losers on the internet that don't know you. He's like, look at look at our life. And what you've built. Like he's my number one supporter. And it's for sure. So refreshing. I love that. I feel the same. Yeah, my man. It's like, if I'm complete, if I was even talking about another creator, I could talk about like the most famous creator on the internet right now. And he'd be like, who's that? Isn't it the best? He has no idea. I like, are you serious? Yeah. I'm like, she had seven super bowl commercials. What are you talking about? Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, that's my husband will point at someone be like, look at that sliny crab. It's like, no, it's not. No, he doesn't know a single celebrity. Like, I'm talking once a week. Like, that's Tom Holland. I'm like, not even we're not even close to what he looks like. I'm like, are you okay? But I kind of facial analysis is create every blonde girl is Sabrina Carpenter. Oh, yeah, every blonde girl is Sabrina. I'm like, I'm like, I'm going to find out. Or all point now a celebrity. Like, we were in Paris actually during Paris Fashion, we got a really small sushi bar. And what's McCulloch, and brother Rory, right? Kieran Colken, that's him. And he was sitting at the bar by himself. And I was like, that's McCulloch, Colken's brother. He's like, no, it's not. And I literally Google him. And he was wearing in the red carpet photo, the exact sweater and the stack of bracelets at the bar. And it was like a really small like Michelin star kind of hard restaurant to get into. But our family has a flat there. And so they like knew the owners. I don't know. We just somehow got into this restaurant. He was sitting by himself having a drink and no one talked to him, no one like we didn't bug him. Yeah. But my husband was like, I know it's not him. That's not him. Yeah. Me and my boyfriend sat next to you. Do you ever watch sign fell? Love. Okay. You know, George Costanza. Yes. I don't know his real name. I just that just George Costanza to me. Jason Alexander. Yeah. We sat down at Great White. And you know, it's like, it's like booths at Great White. I love a connected booth. Yeah. It's all one booth. You don't have your own individual booth. My boyfriend was butts about with George Costanza. And I text him because I'm trying not to freak out. And it was ironic because I asked to change tables. We got the table. And I was like, I hate sitting super close to people. And so I was like, Oh, this is like really close to that guy. Can we get a different table in the waitress? It's like, I'm sorry. Like this is all we have available. And I'm like, Okay, that's fine. I'm like, that guy. I'm over here not wanting to sit close to some guy. And I'm like, it's freaking George Costanza. An icon. And we sit down and I text my boyfriend like, that's George Costanza next to you from sign fell. And he's like, no, it's not. And I'm like, you're going to have this whole dinner thinking you're not next to George Costanza when you are definitely next to George Costanza. But he refused so he didn't want to look next to there. So close, he's like, he can't look up at it. It's a word. So instead, we're just texting about it. And eventually, George Costanza gets up to go. And my boyfriend's like, that was George Costanza. Like, yeah, I mean, all the tables in our vicinity. All we're like, do you know who you guys receded next to? And we're like, yeah, we thought I was like, told you you need to listen to me more. It's weird in LA how often you see people. And you're like, holy shit. Yeah, it's kind of wild. It really is. Yeah. And normally I'm like, one my boyfriend wouldn't know who anyone is. Yeah. Care that much. But I'm like, if I'm going to sit next to, if I sit next to Jerry's sign felt like, oh, yeah, I'm going to freak out. There's only Oprah or something. Yeah, there's only certain people. I'd be like, whoa, sorry to bug you, but I love you. Yeah. Yeah, there's like five almost regret that I didn't say anything to George Costanza. But he, I think he was with his wife and a group of people. He would have enjoyed his lunch. And so, yeah, I wasn't going to be, I didn't want to be that person. Yeah. Okay. So we end with rapid fire, but I have one more question before we get to that. Yeah. Will you get married? We definitely will get married. Okay. And it's like I said, the most common question that I get on my videos, like who's going to tell her? And the irony is that I think everybody assumes whenever they hear a 20 year relationship that it's his decision. Whether we get married or not, they assume that I'm sitting here dying to get married, waiting for a proposal and that that's his decision. When the reality is it's like a joint decision that we've both made to not be married at the moment. Absolutely. We live life as if we are married. We live together. We've been together forever. But it's, it's both of our decisions in the minute I say, let's get married. It's going to happen. So we are going to get married. We're not in a big rush, too. Yeah. It's never been like the biggest priority for me if I'm being honest, but it's going to happen. And you're respecting your boundaries totally. And I love that you don't let outside opinions weigh you. That's it. It's funny. I'm like, I honestly feel flattered that anybody actually cares. Also, I'm like, oh my god, people care about my relationships with us. I'm like, look at you, babe. I don't think you're like struggling to get a rock on it. Okay. Like don't, yeah. Anyways, I can't wait. You'll be the most beautiful right ever. Okay. Rapid fire. Favorite song to play on piano. I learned a little bit of Canon and D. Oh, Christmas songs. When I was a kid, I did piano and I learned Canon and D and I would be, so it didn't matter if it was July. I was so into that intro. She's bumping it. Yeah. I could do maybe just like the first, the first couple notes still. Okay. You have a piano. Okay. Do you have a piano in your house? I don't, but I would love one. My friend really weird. She grew up playing piano. She's insanely good at it. She found the most gorgeous piano on Craigslist. I found one on Facebook Marketplace the other day, but for the life of me, I can't find a spot to put it. Oh, see, that's hard to. It does. It takes up so much. It really does. Yeah. What's your comfort TV show? Comfort TV show. Probably Sex in the City. Oh, I could watch it over and over. Sex in the City, Seinfeld. Yeah. Sex in the City is the reason I became obsessed with Martinez. Uh-huh. It's so she. And I just like felt so cool at the restaurant and now I genuinely love them. Yeah, I used to, when I was like little, I would cosplay if I was like not feeling confident going somewhere, I'd be like walk like Samantha. Iconic. Because she's confident. I was like how I'd walk into a casting age 15. I'd be like, I'm Samantha Jones. It's iconic. I'm still obsessed with the fact that Sarah Jessica Parker negotiated in her contract to get every single piece of clothing and jewelry. Do you know that? Oh, I do think I've heard that before and that is, that is goals. Like I wish, I mean, not that I've ever worn outfits that iconic to like get to keep anyways. But if I ever do get that opportunity, I'm going to remember that. Her agent literally told her you're not going to have a lot of negotiating. She has them in like her own storage museum or something. She doesn't have them at home. I remember hearing that. So apparently they didn't expect it to go as well as it did. And so she didn't have a lot of negotiating in her contract. So he was like, negotiate that you want to keep all the clothes and all of the jewelry. And she got every single piece from every, every season in every movie. At this point, it's worth more probably than like at least season one by season two. I'm sure she was getting banged. I mean, in the main, I can imagine I still want her deor rings that she wore across her knuckles. Like those are the brass knuckles that I would wear. Oh totally. You know, you beat some ass with those. If your friends had to describe you in one word, what would they say? Embarrassing. It's not true. No, it is true. You're seeing like the very, the curated version. Yeah. Like when I told them I was going on a podcast, they were like, um, oh no, be careful. No. Yeah, they were like just watch what you say and don't over share. No, I'm a chronic, no, I'm a chronic overshare. So it's like, I have to be conscious to not. I didn't know you were in a 20 year relationship. So I'm going to think you're not an overshare. I'm not online. But that's what I was like, oh god, if you put me in front of someone and I start having a conversation, I might become one. But no, you've done amazing. We've done good. Last thing you got influenced to buy online. Last thing I got influenced. I'm a big TikTok shop girlie. There's some good shit on TikTok. It's a problem because now my algorithm knows that I've bought and things on there. So it only gives me TikTok shop. So I got like the cake's nipple covers. I'm not talking about. I'm wearing them right now. Wait, I obviously, I'm just, I just my nipple covers got like the stick lost. So I was going to order some more. These are, they don't have any sticky on the back. They're just like, uh, they just stay. They just stay. I don't know how to suction. They almost suction cup. They just like, if you wear kind of, if you were a really, really loose t-shirt, it wouldn't work. But if you're wearing that, that would be good. Okay. It would be enough to hold it. So I have them on now. And it's just like, they're big. They cover almost like your whole boob. Yeah. Which is great because then sometimes nipple covers look like like that's what I didn't wear them because they look like round a bigger nipple. Yeah. And then it's like, it looks funny. So I got the cakes. I also got there was like some kind of stringy zander wear that you can't see. I got those on TikTok shop, uh, the wavy talk hair thing. I'm always buying something on TikTok shop that I'm influenced by some girl posting a TikTok shop ad. Yeah. Okay. I love being influenced. It's bad. It's my favorite activity. And I love it. That's like our job. But we're the most easily influenced people. Oh, I'm so easily. And it'll be like hashtag ad TikTok shop link, whatever. And I'll still sit there and watch it and order her umbles crumbles. I don't know if you get those ads. I ordered those. What's that? They're like chocolate like diet chocolate. It was like $40 to for these chocolates. Damn. They weren't worth it. But I bought like the candy crystals. Oh, I haven't gotten that. Now I'm gonna get an ad for it. They're like the crystals like full with jelly that you like bite into. They're very good. - Oh, really expensive too. - Good, I don't need anything else to buy, honestly. - Yeah, I love it. - But do you know what I tell myself when I buy stuff like that is, 'cause I put myself in their shoes, and I'm like, I'm just supporting them. - Yeah. - Yeah, I'm giving them commission, so it's fine. - Totally. - I'm like $40 herumbles, crumbles, I don't know what the commission is off of that. - Yeah. - It's gotta be all right, so. - All right, favorite city you've traveled to. - So hard, because I like different cities for different reasons. Honestly, LA is my favorite city. - Really? Okay, what's-- - To live in. - What's one of your top favorites outside our country? - I mean, I love Italy, I love Lake Como, I love Pozzatano. - I've never been Italy. - Girl. - I know. - Our 10-year wedding anniversary's in June. - We saw the ticket book. - I was thinking, 'cause we never took, we never did a wedding or a honeymoon, so we're doing a Vowernol, so I was thinking of doing like a two week Italian honeymoon. - I mean, Lake Como itself is just so magical. The thing is now Europe is so expensive. - Don't get me started on the plane tickets just to get there. - The plane to everything is, it's an investment to go to Europe now, but I love Santa Fe. I would say Italy, Lake Como or Pozzatano is my favorite, not to live, but for vacation. - Most used emoji right now. - Most used emoji. I do love the one that's like-- (laughing) - You just reminded me of that ticket for instance. - You love to be like, what the fuck is this? - When people are like, can you make this meme with your face? That's what you look like. Like the scared? - It's kind of like, oh, got it. - I use that one a lot. This is so basic, the little-- - Oh, the hand heart. - Okay. Last question. What's the most Texas thing about you still? - The most Texas thing about me, I still say y'all all the time. My Southern accent can come out, give me, I don't even need a drink, but if you give me a drink, it's definitely fully gonna be there. - I was gonna see the hair volume. - And the volume? - Hard, the hair closer to God. - Hard, yeah, higher than you. - 100%. - Okay, well, you killed your first podcast. You crushed it, you were such a natural. I love getting to know you. - Oh, I appreciate it. This was fun. I was scared I was gonna say something stupid and overshared. - No, you didn't. Let's go get Martini soon and I'll dress up for you. - Oh, that would be amazing. I'll bring you a bunch of lip liners. You can bring your Victoria back home. - 100%. I'm gonna bring you all the way over. - We're gonna have a fuck ton of volume in our hair though. - And then we roll us out. - Okay, oh, I will. I love a good roller moment. And then we'll look strange for your beauty product. Okay, thank you for being here. - Thank you, thank you for having me. - Have a good rest of your day. Cheers everyone. (upbeat music)