In this episode of Two Out Takes, Gigi Gorgeous and host Morgan explore several real-life relationship stories through the lens of "ugly hearts"—emotional dishonesty, disrespect, and toxic behavior. The first story involves a woman confronting her boyfriend for sharing a photo of his friend seemingly mounting him, which she sees as inappropriate and a sign of emotional manipulation. The boyfriend dismisses the issue, leading her to end the relationship, highlighting how platonic friendships can cross lines when they involve power imbalance or objectification. In another story, a husband’s prank of dangling his wife over a parking garage edge is condemned as a dangerous, boundary-crossing act that reflects deep emotional manipulation and a lack of respect, especially when it causes lasting trauma. A third story details a mother-in-law’s dismissive and offensive comment about a new grandchild, which triggers a breakdown in trust and leads the daughter-in-law to leave the family and reevaluate her marriage. A fourth story critiques a husband who discourages his wife’s self-expression and confidence, viewing it as an act of insecurity and control. Finally, a woman walks out after her boyfriend’s father makes a crude, sexual comment about her age, reinforcing that such remarks are not just inappropriate but deeply offensive. Across all cases, the episode emphasizes that recognizing emotional red flags—like disrespect, manipulation, or boundary violations—is crucial. The hosts stress the importance of trusting one’s gut, standing firm in personal boundaries, and prioritizing mutual respect and emotional safety in relationships. Each story illustrates that true connection requires empathy, honesty, and a commitment to treating others with dignity.
Hi guys, welcome back to another episode of Two Out Takes. I'm your host Morgan and today I have the gorgeous Gigi Gorgeous. Bum-bum-bum-bum! Welcome! Thank you for having me. I'm so excited. You are just like such a legend. Start on YouTube so early. I watched one of your videos today, one of your recent vlogs and you're like, you were just getting back and connected with your people. But you're like, you guys have been with me since I was stealing makeup at the mall and I was like, girl, same. Like, that was me. Did you, really? Yeah, I had a problem. It was just, it was a sport for me and my friends. What was your drug of choice? Drugstore Mac? No, honestly, Mac lipstick, yes. But I went for like big ticket items. Like, I did like DVDs, jeans, fur coats. Like the fur coat. Fur coat, how do you still fit a fur coat? Oh, I don't know, I was really-- Literally how? I was really good. But people get mad when I talk about it. They're like, she does not care. That's so bad. I'm like, I was 15, okay, 14, 15. Yeah. A wee baby. We would have been criminals. I see. Oh, yeah, yeah, totally all of that. And a bag of chips. Exactly. Bag of chips. Are you into the ketchup chips? 'Cause you're Canadian. Yeah, yeah, of course I am. Are you really? Yeah. Are you not? No. Who isn't into ketchup chips? Oh, you're behind Poutine. A duh. But the ketchup chips are like, they're too unique for me. Oh, my God, stop. Too unique for me. You don't like the taste? They just are so sour. Oh, I love that. I'll give it another go just for you. Yeah, I need to get you some. Okay. Whenever my sister comes back, she's like, oh, my God, here are some ketchup chips. And I'm like, wait, I miss the flavor. Like, it's so real. Oh, my God. You know, can't do it. I can't do it. Okay. Let us know down in the comments. Yeah, ketchup chips are now. It's team ketchup. What is some lore, though, for my listeners that have not met you yet? What is your background? What's GG story? Well, I mean, I went to like an all, you know, uniform, Catholic, high school, very boring, not very, you know, self-expressive. And I, you know, Toronto, Canada, and I just saw the lights of LA and just like all the things that was very creative, literally the only before we started recording. I don't know if we were, but the only thing that I ever really, like, excelled in was like art class and like, you know, creativeness, like math, science, all that stuff. I was like, is tough for me. No, I feel the same way. Yeah. So I just feel like I was made for something else and I still love Canada, obviously, but had to travel to Los Angeles for a little bit more. Yeah, a little bit more. Yeah. I mean, I feel, yeah, I moved from Minnesota, which is basically Canada. It's like we want Canada to adopt us a lot of the times if you ask Minnesotans. Isn't Minnesota big for like serial killers? I hope not. Is it though? I don't think so. You don't know? No. Oh, maybe I'm thinking of another state. Wisconsin, maybe? Wisconsin. I feel like Wisconsin's a big one. Yeah, yeah. That's like the good looking one. Bundy? Yeah. I see. I really have a true crime podcast too and I'm like, why don't I know what's happening? Yeah, wait. What? What's happening? Okay. Wisconsin is higher. Two victims for every 100K. Okay. Louisiana is the worst 7.5 victims for every 100,000 people and Alaska 8.6. What about Toronto? There's only either United States. Oh, okay. Let's see. Cause I don't really know. Maybe I could be the first. I'm just kidding. No. No, Toronto is not generally considered. Yeah. It's a pretty good. Yeah. Canada is pretty good. London, Ontario was once infamously known as having the highest concentration of serial killers in the world between 1959 and 1984. Oh, my God. So watch out. Okay. I've been there. Have you really? Yep. You're like, oh, that fits. I dove there. Yeah. Okay. Well, our theme today, serial killers definitely have this. We're going to determine if some of the people in these stories have this, but the theme is ugly hearts. These people are just like not being kind, being deceptive, not being a good partner, not something's off. And it's just kind of giving ugly, not gorgeous, not gorgeous, not gorgeous. And as, you know, Gigi gorgeous, you should know ugly. Yes. Yes. It definitely do. Okay. Let's dive in. Okay. I'm excited. I don't really know what we're doing. But I'm here. I'm here. I'm here to play. [MUSIC] Okay, this first story, this is coming from the relationships subreddit. So this is a community on Reddit that's all about like helping people in their relationships. It helps them vent their ask for advice. So this is titled, my 22 female boyfriend, 28 male, posted a photo of a friend, 27 female, dating in his lap. Okay. So some background. Matt and I have been dating unofficially for nine months and officially for four months. We kept things casual at first since we were both close to graduating from our respective programs and weren't sure where we would end up. But once we were both settled in the same city, we made things official. During this casual dating phase, I met a few of his friends. One in particular, Sarah, often went out of her way to clarify that we were not official or exclusive. She also made caddy comments about my profession. I love what I do, but it's certainly not as prestigious as my boyfriend's and his friend's job, my school, again, not nearly as prestigious, my age, I'm five years younger than them, and has just generally made condescending comments to me and rudely interrupted me. I never made a big deal out of it because Matt's other friends are really friendly to me and I'm generally an easygoing person. All of Matt's friends, including Sarah, recently went to a party. I was invited but I had other plans so I didn't go. A few days later on Facebook, someone posted a photo of all of the friends together at this party. Everyone is posed normally except Matt and Sarah. He's sitting down and she has her arms and legs wrapped around him and is arching her back and kind of flipping her hair back. It clearly comes across as sexual because several people commented on the post asking what was going on or making jokes about it. I texted Matt and asked why he thought it was a good idea to take a photo of his friend practically mounting him and he said, "Are you on something? That's just a photo of friends. There's nothing wrong with it." I tried explaining to him that I found it disrespectful, but he hasn't budged. Am I overreacting here? What should I do? Do you want to go? You got it. Do you know why I think that there's this age, old and old tale as old as time, can a female and a male be friends without anything else going on? I want to know your take on this before we really deep dive on this. I feel like it's very difficult and I feel like oftentimes women and men have two very different intentions when starting the friendship. I think for women, it can be very platonic. I think a lot of times for guys, it oftentimes starts as attraction or trying to date that person, but then they get friend-zoned and obviously there's exceptions to every rule or whatever, but I think that's generally how it goes. If you start on that foundation, I think it's, if the line could be crossed, he might cross it. Yes. I think that the guy is always waiting. Our studies on this, I mean, there are studies on this that I forget what exactly it is, but they pooled 100 guys, 100 women, that were friends and the stats of the guys that would try and we're waiting. It was high. Yeah. It has to be giving me 80%. I just look it up. I'll look it up. Yeah. Because I'm like, it is, it was high. I think the girls trying it, the arching the back and the waving of the hair and everything I'm like, girl. Her legs are wrapped around him. That's a lot, that proof is at the button. I don't even do that with my husband in pictures. I would. Did you ever. No. Yeah, exactly.
In a group photo, I'm going to sit there and straddle him, and she's like trying to be bad. And he's dating some like, I hate her. Girl, why are you doing a dirty like this? Why are you being a pick me? I think I hate her. It's definitely giving me a pick me. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not like that guy either. No, he's a loser. No, exactly. Literally trying to be like, are you on something? That's a normal photo friend's face with each other. It's normal. Girl, kill him. Let's move on. So one of the top comments on the post is, yes, the classic deflect them blame you move. That plus the fact that he never, gently or otherwise, said anything to her about how she treats you in general, says to me that he likes her attention and does not want to give it up. Absolutely. He loves that. Are you joking me? Of course. Yes. Yeah, no, that comments on. It's like like stupid guy, like just, you know, takes anything that he's given. Just going on. They need to both be actually hung at the stake. Why aren't they just dating? I don't know. Maybe it's like more naughty. Fun for them. Yeah. More fun. I don't know. Some people get up on that. No, I could see it. It's like you want what you can't have than once you could have it. You don't want it. He's like, oh, actually, there's something shinier in the corner right behind you that I want. Literally. So OP does respond to a thread and goes from what I know of Sarah's personality. She's the type of person who will say or do outrageous things for attention and her friends will just laugh and say, that's Sarah for you. So when she says insulting things to me, there will usually be a moment of everyone sharply inhaling, followed by laughter and, oh, my God, Sarah, you can't say things like that. When I've brought up that I don't like being the subject of her wit, Matt, my boyfriend, basically had the same reaction of, that's just how she is. I mean, I've made excuses for friends, siblings, people in general. I think it's really tough because you want to make excuses and you feel like you have to. But at the end of the day, I feel like everyone kind of knows what's going on. I think you can kind of see through this. You know what I mean? Have you ever like made excuses where you feel even dumb, saying it as you're saying it? Yeah. I dated someone in Canada for almost three years and I was in college in Minnesota and we're doing long distance and like every weekend, he would disappear and I'm like, what's going on? Like, where were you this week? What's going on? And he's like, oh, I didn't have service. I didn't have service. Where do you say he was? Well, he was like outside of Edminton in Lloyd Minster. Like, it is. I know Edminton. I know Edminton. Yes, yeah. But I'm like, you still, like your phone works and it's not like you're off the grid. Like you have Wi-Fi too, bitch. Right. But in my dumb soft. If you wanted to, you would. Yeah. Yeah. Meanwhile, like, we ended up breaking up and he did have another girlfriend up there. So, you know, but at the time, we're like, oh my god, yeah, you don't have service. You're right. Yeah. We convince ourselves. Clear as die. Just. Yeah. It's silly. Like, even like if you have like, you know, like a sloppy drunk friend or best friend or sister or whatever, you're always like, oh, no, no, that's like just her. Yeah. Like, it's so, she's so fun. Like, that's just her. This is outrageous. Yeah. Crazy. Crazy. She's so crazy. Love her, though. You'll love her. Yeah. That's just her. Yeah. Like, I have one of my best friends. Her name is Alexis and she's, she's just, she talks loud, but she's so fun. And like, Alexis would never be cruel. Like she would despise cruelness like this. And so it's like, there's a difference between just being like a goofy or sillier person and being out there or louder or whatever versus like, oh, no, you're just kind of a bitch. You're an asshole. Yeah. But you're just not nice. That's what I can't stand for. I feel like that's the excuse that I wouldn't fight for. Like, meanness or bitchiness or passive aggressiveness, I just can't look at any of that. Why the cruelness? But if they're being like, zany or wacky, I'm like, I'll always make an excuse for that. Because I'm like, that's just them. That's fun. Yeah. That's fun, though. Like, that's the difference. Yeah. So we do get an update on this. Okay. So sometimes on these posts, we get updates. Hello. We get resolutions. Hello. So this is coming a month and a half later. So after reading the responses here, I felt like I was being pretty rational about my concerns. I confronted my boyfriend and not only did he double down on the insistence that he did nothing wrong, but he also said some pretty nasty things. This brought up other issues we've had and I decided to end things. Now almost a month later on social media, I see that he and Sarah are dating. Oh my God. There is damn I love shameless, what the fuck? So much for that being a normal picture of platonic friends to take, right? Lesson learned, trust your gut and choose a partner who respects you. I never felt secure in that relationship, but I know one day I'll find someone who cares about me and isn't quasi cheating with his friend. Being single is a hundred times better than being called crazy for calling out inappropriate behavior. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Rightfully so. What's quasi? What did you say? Quasi, quasi. Quasi. Like quasi moto. I don't know. That's all I'm saying. Like hunchback behavior. It's a pretty big word for me. It means in some sense, resembling or not completely, but almost. Mm. Like semi. Yeah. Mid. Yeah. I'm trying to find it like a sentence that like would help provide context for us. Yeah, it's attached to another word to indicate that something is not fully but has some sort of features. Right. So it's like they were quasi dating. Like they weren't actually dating. It's not a fact. It's like.5. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You kind of see it. But it's not official. Well, I feel like when your gut is telling you something, I really, really truly believe that you should really always listen to that voice. There's something that I feel like I've learned that and tell me if you feel the same way. So there's like the inner sapetur of voice. Yeah. You like you, you want to act in a movie, you can't act in a movie. There's no way you are talented enough. They're not going to want you, whatever. Or like maybe acting in a movie is not right for you. That's like your gut. Mm-hmm. The hateful speech is like your inner sapetur. Sapetur. I love that. Like it's imposter syndrome, but the way you say it sounds better. Inner sapetur. Yeah. It's just like, oh my god. Shut up. Shut up. It's also like your gut is like maybe this person isn't in love with me. Maybe they are seeing somebody else, you know what I mean? And like that's a gut. An inner sapetur is like something else. Yeah. So if it's like your true gut, like go with that. Listen to her. No, trust your gut for sure. Especially like if you don't trust your partner and like, you're getting weird vibes and your radars kind of going off, like something's up here, you're probably right. Like we have those instincts for a reason. Right. And you spend so much time with your partner, like you know the way they move. Like if something is weird, it's probably weird. Probably weird. And like you're not making it up. No. Unless you're like on like narcotics or something, I don't know. Having a bad day. Yeah. Having a bad day. Having a bad day. This next one I think could fit into this whole vibe of like something's up, but like what is up? Like is it gut or is it inner saboteur? Okay. Okay. This is a bit scary. You guys, um, I don't know what trigger warning to add. Maybe it needs one. Maybe I'll patch it in murder. You might be a little psychic over there. Really? This is titled "Am I the asshole for going home after my husband dangled me over the parking garage edge as a prank?" I thought he was killing me. What? I know. You joked murder. Okay. Wait. What? Literally what? I read it. This happened a couple of days ago. I went out with my husband to eat out a place nearby that we had booked for that time. And he wanted to go for a while. He'd been really looking forward to it. And so I drove him there. And we parked on the top floor of the parking garage nearby. We got out of the car and started walking down the stairs, which were right on the edge of the parking garage. We started talking about how high up we were and jokingly asked if I thought I could survive if I jumped down from there. And obviously I wouldn't have. Hey. As we were turning down the stairs and we were right next to the edge, which had a small railing before a straight drop, he shouted out, "All caps, say goodbye!" and suddenly grabbed me and picked me up and brought me over the edge and dangled me there. And I fucking screamed out. I was so scared I thought he was going to kill me. And he held me over the edge for a second and then pulled me back and set me down. And I was in shock and he was laughing like it was the funniest thing ever. And I was still processing what he had just done to me. I was legitimately shaking and lost my appetite and mood to be out. And I just decided I wanted to go home.
And I told him I'm going home and he said it was just a joke and that he was just trying to have fun. I told him he can come home with me now or he can take the bus, but I'm driving home right now. He said I ruined the date because he'd really been wanting to eat there and huffed on the way back. And I was still shocked because I was literally hanging over the edge and I got home and I was just thinking about it and I started crying. And he didn't even come over and console me. He apologized later, but it was like, sorry, you got scared instead of sorry for doing something I shouldn't have. And now my mood was just ruined for the rest of the day. So read it. Am I the asshole for going home? Ruined for the rest of the day is so nice. I would, I, you know what I would do. Hit him with the car as you get in and drive home. Absolutely. If you like, I was kidding. It was a joke. Oh my god, it wasn't that funny. No, no, pay back. I mean, I'm a revenge bitch. Like I would see red. How do you revenge this? Like, what do you dangle him over something? Like, I don't know. I would take a time off and like chop his foot off and be like, kidding. Like, how dare I just don't see where this is like rational in any way. No, how is this a joke? Dangle in someone over the side. Also, how big is he and how small are you? How is he dangling you off and then taking you back also like it? Like you must be really little. I just like the logistics. Yeah, I'm like very confused on the logistics. Same. I would definitely if someone dangled me over the edge, like I would get dropped. Like I would just splat real fast. But right. Cause that's like actually attempted murder. Like it's like you're trying to kill me. That's not a joke. No, and like here's the thing. Like when someone's panicked, you can't predict how they're going to respond. If she would have like started wriggling about his eyes out, what if he accidentally dropped her? Like, yeah, okay. Maybe it's a joke to you, but like accidents still happen. Exactly. What if you literally dropped me? Exactly. Right. And like, is that funny? Like a fake, you know how like, you know, brothers will like come up to you and like fake punch you and stuff like that. Yeah. Like that's cute. But like, like off a ledge is a lot. A ledge. Yeah. Like this. He's actually on a ledge. He's giving psychopaths. No, it's weird. Like I would honestly feel weird sleeping beside that person at night. I wouldn't be able to. No, we need there. I would not be able to just lost. Just lost. I'm going to the guest room and I'm locking the door. Yeah. One hundred percent. You know what? Though good for her for saying, you know, come with me or I'm driving home. Is that what she said? Yeah. Like good for her. But you can either come with me now or take the bus. Exactly. Love that for her. Honestly, I love it. I love that. I'm not going to even fake this dinner. Like we're done. But I almost wish she would have been like, you're taking the bus home to think about what you did. Bye. Right. Fuck you. What's the next thing going to be though? Pushing her in front of a train? Being like kidding. Like girl. Oh my god. You're living with a psychopath. I know. So the top comment clearly says like, not the asshole. Like this is not on you. They ask how long have you been married? Is he often someone who finds pranks hysterical? Do you have a very large life insurance? I'm just trying to understand what made him think this was okay. That's actually a good question. I didn't even think of that. Think of that. Me neither. Oh my gosh. You know when you meet someone though and you look in their eyes and you can tell like the person that they are though, I would love to see this guy in this room with us right now. Who are you envisioning? Fucking like Edgene. I need to watch the new show. Like I've heard monsters is really good. You haven't watched it? No. Oh my god. That's so up your alley. I know. I like have a hard time with scary stuff though. Which is weird. Because I can do true crime. What? It's a whole thing. GG. I don't know. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. I respect it. Don't judge. But that's crazy. So we love it. Okay. I think. It's going to go on my list. That and have you seen perfect neighbor yet? I haven't. There's so much about it though that I feel like I have to see that. You basically watched it. Yeah. Okay. Have you? I need to. Oh. Again, it's on my list. But I've heard it's just like, because it's all through body cam footage. And it's just like, what the fuck? So OP does respond to that comment. We've been married for a couple of years. And we'd had been dating for some time before that. I met him at church and we got married after I got pregnant. And we do have life insurance. And I was thinking I was going to die. And my baby was not going to have a mother and I screamed out. And I didn't think it was a prank in the moment. I was so scared and shocked for so long after two. He has scared me before by shocking me like when I walked through the door and he came out and yelled, or when he snuck up behind me and shook me once when he came home from work early. And I was cooking or when he once pretended he fell off a ladder and I came running out after hearing a loud noise and him groaning, but this time I literally thought I was going to die. I cried when I got home. I never cried from him shocking me before. Okay. Pranks are funny. You know, social media and all of that stuff is really funny. We see like couple pranks, couple social media accounts and all that. I can't even handle when like a friend is getting ready down the hall and doesn't like announce themselves before because I'm like, like if the water is on, I'm listening to a podcast, whatever, like I get freaked out. I'm a jump scare person. Yeah. I don't like being like shocked like that. No. Like announce yourself. Yeah. So make noise. If I was in like a relationship with somebody and I thought, oh my god, they've done this to me before. They're hiding behind a door like my, I probably have a heart attack. I can't handle that. No, I can't either. And it's just like I, I don't know what his intention here is. And it feels like they're definitely escalating in terms of what he's doing. So I really feel like he's, he's testing your boundaries to see what he can get away with. I think he also seems a little bit misogynistic. He thinks when he hates women, he probably hates you. And he just wants to control you. I mean, you don't play ball like that, like you don't, yeah, like you don't prank him back. But he knows that he like got you. Yeah. You know, he hates women. He hates you. You need to divorce him. I was going to say it's time to pull out the D word. It's done. It's done. Done divorce. Diverse. Delaware. Oh, my God. Yeah. Good luck girl. Because you know what? Good luck. It seems like it's escalating. It is. And you've got a baby involved like at this point, you really need to look out for yourself in your little one. He needs Jesus. He was already going to church. So I don't think that's it. But maybe he really needs Jesus. And I think he needs an exorcism or to come out as gay, who he truly is. Call up a breeze. There's just like one other recommendation. People are like, please file a police report. Like please have this on record because this is a solid record if she doesn't. It's insane. But we don't have an update. She never came out and posted again. She has to get out of there. I know. This is seven months old now. So hopefully, you know, she sees this, hears this and gets an update to us like, Hey, I did get divorced. Yeah. Life is good. I'm alive. I got soul custody. We're good. We're good here. Sad that there's a kid. He seems nuts. I know. It. I just can't even imagine. Me neither. I cannot. But moving along to this next one. Okay. Okay. Story number three for us here. It is coming from Am I the asshole titled Am I the asshole for blowing up at my mother-in-law at a family dinner? Love this one. Throw away account since my husband is an active Reddit user. I 23 female have been married to my husband 24 male for three years. We were high school sweethearts and have been best friends since elementary school. He's still my best friend to this day. I've never had a great relationship with his mom. She's difficult to talk to and our conversations are usually very shallow, gossiping about neighbors, complaining about landscapers, etc. Almost a year ago my mom passed away, which still feels surreal to write. She truly was my soul mate and I'm incredibly grateful to have had her in my life for 23 years. I miss her more than words can describe. My husband's family really stepped up during that time, supporting us financially with funeral costs and managing affairs when I was deep in grief. I'm genuinely grateful for their help. Fast forward to now. We're expecting our first baby as excited as I am. I'm also deeply saddened that my mom won't be here to guide me through this. We always talked about what my kids would call her. We had settled on grams now to the incident. We were celebrating our pregnancy dinner at my in-laws house and my mother-in-law asked to make a toast. She laughed and said, "I'm so grateful to celebrate a new addition to our family. We can't wait to meet little Veronica," which is her name. She went on to talk about her own pregnancy and what I should expect, mentioning that my husband had an abnormally big head when he was born. Then she said, "I look forward to being the favorite grandma to Veronica. of course I'll be there.
the only grandma. The room went silent. I started to cry. I stood up and I told her how incredibly insensitive it was to say that. And that my mom would always be a grandmother, whether she's here or not. She responded by saying I was overreacting and that it's just a joke. I told her to go to hell and left immediately. My husband later called me, saying he spoke to his mom who was in tears because she was embarrassed. She asked him to apologize on her behalf and he told me I should have came back instead of telling her to go to hell and storming off. I'm currently staying with my sister and I haven't stopped crying since. She supports me 100%. But I really want to know, am I the asshole? - A number one, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't think for one second that you are even to question if you are the asshole is insane to me. I think that this woman is absolutely bonkers nuts at a control and I mean, I'd like to first of all say, I think I'm so proud of you for even standing up in that moment because as a people pleaser, I would have just like held onto it for a little bit. - Yeah. - She really did it with her chest and said that. And like I'm very proud of you. Yeah, like good for you 'cause she needed to hear that in that moment. And obviously she has no boundaries. - None. - You know, so like somebody has to fucking punch her in the gut in a moment or she'll just continue doing it. But she seems unstoppable in that way. So like, - Unstoppable and enabled. Like now your husband who should have your back is like, oh well, you know, you're overreacting and she's embarrassed and she sends her apologies but you shouldn't have stormed off. You shouldn't have told her to go to hell. It's on you. No, I don't think it's on me. We're not gonna call our baby your mom's name, Veronica. When has that been discussed? And then she's trying to fucking psychologically warfare me with saying you had a big head. So great, that's gonna make me feel good. I already gotta worry about a fucking watermelon coming out of me. Great, now I gotta deal with a big head. Thanks, okay. And then she's the only grandma because my mom's dead. Go fuck yourself, go hell, go to hell. You rot in Satan's little prison, you deserve it. - Yeah, agreed. I think that it borders on the line of like insecurity and narcissism. - It's definitely coming from a place of like deep insecurity 'cause like otherwise like why are you threatened by another grandma that's gone. - Gone, gone, gone. - Like are you that insecure? Is it even about the grandma being dead or is it about me being a woman? And being in the mix. Like does the death mean anything to you? Or is it just that I'm existing in this family? Like I think that she's threatened in many ways, but you know. - I mean, she, our writer here, OP, is coming between the mom and her son. So maybe there's some jealousy insecurity there. It has to be, maybe she's like super beautiful or like, you know, the attention has been taken a little bit or something, she needs that. - I could see that. - Yeah. - 'Cause I would be very curious if you asked her like in the moment, Veronica, if you were dead, you wouldn't be a grandma. Hope nothing happens to you. - Period. - Like I would, in that moment like I, oh I would, I would be so hurt and. - Me terrible. - I'm a people, please or two. Like I've been in kind of awkward situations like this where Shicket said to you and you was kind of like, mm-hmm. - Yeah. - But you hold on to it. - You have to deal with it eventually. - Yeah. - But like nice for her to like actually say something in the moment. - I want this energy. - Me too. - To be this big person. - I can't do that. Like I'll take like a week and then I'll be like, you know. - Just do it. - But also it's like it's your partner's problem. It's not really yours, you know? - No, but it's like it becomes yours when like your partner doesn't have your back and doesn't do anything about it. - Yeah, and it's like that's your family of origin. Like that is who you're supposed to deal with. - Yeah. - I'm your person. You're supposed to have my back especially when it comes to your family. - 'Cause dealing with a mother-in-law like that, it'll only get worse. If you're the enemy and like your angel's son is like the, you know, like God's gift to the earth. - Yeah. - Like it'll never get better. - No, and it, I mean, she says like I've never had a great relationship with his mom. It's only gonna get worse. - She's probably gonna hit you. - Maybe. - Yeah. - Yeah, oh my god. I've read stories on Reddit too in past episodes where like the mom does not like daughter-in-law and like talks shit about the mom to the kids. Like Grandma loves you so much more than mommy. Like, hmm, what? - Like it's giving like monster-in-law that movie with like Jane Fonda. - Jane Fonda, like you win. You win. Are we done? Like we're good. - Yeah. - Like can we be done with us? Like it's exhausting because it's their battle. You're just like appeasing them. - Yeah. - And that sucks. - Oh, top comment on this one. Your mother-in-law said something severely inappropriate and insensitive. No person in their right mind would think that she was okay. No matter how many years have passed since your mother's death. Hell, my grandmother passed away 10 years ago and when my son was born two years ago, my mom and I talked a lot about how much we missed her and how we wished she was here to see him. We still say this often. When he's reached a milestone or even if we're just doing something, we know that she would have enjoyed. We say this. It's natural to think about to see relatives more at a time like this and she says something as callous as that. Not the asshole. And next comment down says, and she can apologize herself, not through her son, which that pisses me off. You're gonna make your son apologize for you? No, no, no, you're saying it to my face. You're not getting off easy. - Yeah, 'cause both of you don't mean it at that point. I think that she's unfixable and I think that he's unfixable as well. She's not gonna ever take blame or apologize or mean it if she says that she doesn't mean it. - Yeah. - And he's just doing it to keep the peace 'cause he's like, oh, these two girls in my life, you know? Proofs in the pudding, like show me. - I know. - I don't have to tell you. - No, and that's how like all of these like life proof is in the pudding. Like your actions need to demonstrate you actually give a shit and like my feelings were, were validated. Like you heard me. - Exactly. Look at what happened. Like this is not wrong to you. Hello. - We, we do get an update. - Gag. - We get an update. - Say it. - Tell me they, tell me they divorced. - I just wanna take a moment to say thank you all for your support. Your comments and messages have been incredibly eye opening. - Oh my God. - After staying with my sister for a few days, my husband came over. He said he understood why I was hurt but felt that I overreacted. - Oh no. - He asked me to apologize to my mother-in-law to keep the peace, which felt like a betrayal. I had hoped he would stand up for me. That night my mother-in-law sent a long text doubling down on her joke and saying my grief is becoming a burden on everyone. - Oh. - Girl. - She told me that I need to seek professional help and move on since it's been almost a year. - Ah. - Since the devastated. - Oh my God. - Almost a year. - Not even a year. - Has she lost anyone in her life? Well, insensitive is that. - Like I already know I'm gonna be catatonic. Podcast will not exist for quite some time after. Like I'm just like, what? - Fuck off. - Hate her, hate her. - I showed my husband the message but he got angry at me for escalating things. He said I should make peace with her for our child's sake and that he didn't wanna be caught in the middle. I've decided to take some space and stay with my sister. I'm really struggling to come to terms with this. This whole situation has made me question if my marriage is right for me and my baby. I need an environment where I feel respected and supported and I don't feel that way right now. I told my husband that if he wants me back, he needs to show me he can stand up for me. I'm putting myself and my baby first. I don't know what will happen next but I know I deserve better than this. My sister and I are currently turning her old office into a room prepping for Rosie's. After my mom, Rosas, Arrival, I feel truly blessed to have her support. Thank you again for all your support. It is meant more than you know. - I mean, he's got to really do some shit. - I don't, for me, I hold grudges. I'm like you. I can move past it. I never, and this is like I maybe should work on this but I don't truly forgive and I don't forget. But I just like, I move on. I don't have time to deal with that. And you're not worth wasting any of my energy or another thought on. - Yeah. - So for me, this would be very hard to recover from. - With a baby, with him, yeah. - I mean, you have to co-parent. Like that's in your future now. - But also, don't have to forgive or forget to co-parent. - No, exactly. - You just have to do well. - Exactly, but like-- - Yeah, like--
Be a good co-parent. - Yeah, but to be with them again. - Like I don't like you. I hate you actually, but like loves that. You better. - That would be a show up. - Yeah. - You know, all the days and all that stuff. - Yeah, no, I'd rather co-parent than have to sleep with him again. - Yeah, oh my God. - Oh my God. - There's no chance. - Oh, I'm so, once that's done, it's like, I am so iked out. - I, like, kill me. - Repulse, don't touch me. - You know what, it's so funny. Like, your sister obviously is a blessing here. - Oh my God, huge. - You know, so you have that backpack, backbone, whatever, like you have her, do that, but you know, if you really, really, really, really, really love him, then he's gonna have to really, really, really, really, really do a lot to prove himself. Because you always know what you felt with him during this time. So, like, he's gonna really have to turn a corner, which is like, kind of hard for guys. - I know. - Especially, like, the stance that he made, I overreacted, you're taking your mom's side, like, sucks. - I know. - Because it seems like he's just a goner. He's a goner. - It would be very hard to come back from this. I don't know, like, he would definitely, he would have to move mountains. And I mean, for me, it seems like he's very attached to his mom. Like, you guys are-- - They may hurt her. - You guys are having a mom. - Literally, I think some of these people should and some of the moms would, they'd want that. - They would love to marry their sons. - Like, some of the boy-mom content that's online. Like, I'm like, you actually recorded that, edited that. - Yeah. - Watched it back, again, and then posted that. - Yeah, you're in love with your son. You're sick, yeah. - Like, oh my god, it's disgusting, son. - I don't know, like, he needs to cut his umbilical cord from his mom, like, something's gotta give. But this post is a year old. We have no further updates. - What? I thought you said seven months ago. - This one's a year old. - Oh my god. - So she's had the baby. - Jesus Christ. - If you're out there. - Please. - We need another update. - So invested. - Where are you? Did he come around? What happened? - God bless the sister, that's all I'll say. - I know. - I know what it's like to have a sister to fall back on and damn, like, that's very lucky. - Huge, yeah. - I mean, having that village when you're partner. - She got nothing. She could still be in that with that guy. God for a second, mom. - I know. Horrible, horrible. But we won't belong to this next online. - God bless you and the child. (laughs) - Give me an update. - Yeah, we need an update now. - We're back. - Okay, this next one. - Yeah. - Coming from "Am I the asshole?" Titled, "Am I the asshole for not complimenting my wife so that she won't become vain?" - Vane. - Mm-hmm. - Weird word. - "My wife, 29 female and I, 31 male, have been together for 10 years. We have three children, nine, seven and five. My wife was never someone to really dress up or put that much thought into her looks. She's always been beautiful. But never did much to highlight it. Until recently. She went through this crisis of feeling like she didn't have a personality outside of being a mom, something like that. So for the last two years, she started traveling more, joining different groups, dressing really nicely, wearing makeup. I never realized how much of a difference it would make, but people treat her completely different. She is constantly getting complimented, told that she should be in magazines. She'll come home and happily tell me about the random stranger who was so nice to her. She'll randomly get gifts. Lady at her job brought her a book series she was even interested in. She gets hit on. When we go out, all these dudes wanna buy her drinks. Even my family has noticed. And all of a sudden, it seems like they're wondering how I ended up with her. Honestly, it's a bit overwhelming for me and something I'm just not used to. It's kind of become annoying. Anyways, she was going out with friends and she asked me how she looked. I said, "Fine." She seemed disappointed with this. My sister was over and commented that I should hype her up. I said, "Why? Why should I do that when the world already does?" That I don't want her thinking too highly of herself and becoming more vain. You're a pussy. I hate this man. My sister looked shocked and said, "That's fucked up." It is. Said that's low-key, abusive, and that I'm an asshole. Yes. I think she's overthinking it. But I decided to get some outside opinions. So, am I the asshole? You're an asshole, you're a pussy, you're a bitch. (laughs) You have been with this woman for 10 years, you said. 10 fucking years, she gave him three kids. She's hot as hell now. Step up, you get hot too. Stop being insecure, stop trying to put her down. How do I look? Fine. Girl, you know that she looks fucking bomb as shit. You're a pussy. Fine. He's trying to take her confidence down. He's trying to bring it back to his level. He's trying to humble her. She doesn't, oh my god. Even the family notices that she's more confident, more sexy, more whatever. Too good for him. She's too good for him. Girl, step up or get away from her, 'cause she doesn't deserve that. Like, I hate you, hate him. I can't stand this. It's just like so toxic, so insecure. And it's not his job to humble her. It's like, why, yeah, why don't you step up? Like you're, you're watching her. Yeah, like, oh my god, she's so hot, she's, you can't step up exactly like what you said, yeah. Well, and it's, it's really annoying because I think a lot of like moms go through that where they're like, I don't know who I am outside of being a mom. Like, she's got three kids, nine, seven, and five. They're finally at ages where they're a little more self-sustaining. They're all in school. And so she's finding herself again after maybe being a stay at home mom and that being all she had. Right. And that is a lot. That's such a big burden. And so now she's like, she's traveling a bit. She's joining different groups. She's dressing up and you're threatened. So you're going to then take her back down. Right. She outgrew you, clearly. She is. Yeah. Like, and that is, that's life. Like you grow constantly with a partner. So it's like, why are you not trying to grow? Why are you not traveling with her? Why are you not going to events or a hobby or that like, why aren't you stepping up? I hate this kind of man. I hate it. It's so insecure. It's so insecure. He should be clapping for her. Taking her photos. Oh my God. Like, look at you. Power mom. Three kids. This is our life. My jaw is just dropped. You guys like, I'm just like, I'm, I'm just slack jawed like I just like, don't know what to think. It's sad. I mean, it is. It is. You carry three kids. I can't even imagine having one child, let alone having three and then leveling up afterwards. Like, she's got four. This woman is a superhero, like, yeah, no, you carry one child, lazy ass, and then don't put me down. How dare you? And he gets to reap the rewards. Like, you get a hot ass wife who is cultured and interesting and fun. Yeah. And you're complaining about it. Don't make me feel bad for being amazing. Like, I am too good for you. My family is right and she's going to start to realize it. Yeah. Like that. She should. I mean, this guy, this guy, he needs a reality check. Sure does. Hard core. Comments do give it to him. Yeah. Okay. Let's hear. Let's hear what's here. Overall vote. Asshole. Luckily. Yep. Top comment. You're the asshole. Dude, if your wife doesn't think or know or hear you express that you think she's beautiful, then what's going to stop her from leaving you for someone who does tell her that she's beautiful and treats her wonderfully. Your wife is beautiful and you thought she was great even without all the makeup and the new style and the new interests. Now that she has all of those things and what, you feel left behind. Do you take. You're in the mix though. You're not left behind. You probably sleep next to her every single day. Like you're losing it. You're not a pity invite. Like, she chose to go through life with you. Exactly. Like, if she went away for the weekend with a girlfriend or whatever, you'd be like, she left me, like, would you appreciate her more? I know. Like, you're writing in because she's hotter than you now. I don't know how he thought he was going to get a naughty ass from that. Sympathy from that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The comment goes on to say, do you take any interest in her new interest, travel at all with her? What are you doing to make sure your wife feels seen? Or are you just bitter that she is finally realizing how beautiful and interesting and worthy of all of this friendship and kindness from others and wondering where you stand in all of this. I think she's awesome for taking charge of herself and her life. She didn't feel like she was seen or acknowledged as anything other than mom and did you do anything to make her feel like she was loved, a beautiful wife, like she is. And she endeavored to change that. And it's bearing beautiful fruit. Your wife is awesome. Are they in the room with us, that person? I know. You just wrote that. He needs to fuck off get into it or get lost, honestly, because she
you put up with enough. - You know, a lot of you are the assholes. A lot of people being like great strategy, dude. Treat her as if she doesn't matter and you don't see her as attractive so she can constantly be reminded that there are other people out there who do care about her and do find her attractive. Come back in a year or so and let us know how it works out. In the meantime, think about how you want the custody arrangements to work. - Oh God, you're the asshole. - You're the asshole. - He's totally the asshole. I mean, how could you not, like, come on girl, look in the mirror. - I know. There are a couple comments from OP. Basically he says, I'm just saying too many compliments can go to someone's head. I don't think she needs that. - I mean, okay, I got it. Like sometimes even like with a friend or something, you're like, oh, people are blowing too much smoke up their ass. Like they need to be humbled. But she's had three of your children. That's your person. Like you should want to amp them up even if they're getting too much. The only reason that I would see that that wouldn't be acceptable is if she was acting like a bitch or like treating him like shit, being like anyways, whatever, like over you. - No. - But it doesn't seem like that. - No. - Like I would want to build her up beyond and the more compliments she got, the better. I'd be like, yes, like you're everything. - I know. - You know? And I mean, he tries to brush it off in other comments. Like I just don't want her becoming a person that only cares about looks, constantly trying to look her best. I don't want her seeking validation via compliments. I don't want her to become one of those girls that seeks validation or is fishing for compliments. He just keeps responding the same bullshit back to people. Again and again, there's multiple comments of him saying, I don't want her to seek validation. Guess what? Everyone likes to be complimented. Everyone likes to like be recognized here and there for whatever it is. Dressing up one day, their accomplishments, being kind, it feels fucking nice. Everyone likes their horn tuted here and there. - Exactly. - Be beep. - You know what it kind of beep, beep bitch? (laughing) It kind of feels like he liked her thought and pregnant. - I think he, and maybe that's a control thing. - Hello. - Maybe that is a control thing. - Yeah, now she's hot. - She's got kind of like, you know, little gas in her system. She's feeling great. - Yeah, he's definitely right. - He's like too hot. You're too hot. You look too good. I'm nervous, I'm gonna lose you. 'Cause now I'm old and fat. - Dad, Bob. - Yeah, I'm in the fucking gym. If you're nervous about her. - You know what worries me about him too? Because of how deeply insecure he is, he's someone that, maybe this is a reach you guys, but I feel like he could be one of those people that has an affair as retaliation. - To try to stick it to her? - Yeah, or like, he's not feeling good about himself 'cause his wife is so much hotter and then he's gonna go find someone who does make him feel hot. Like he's, he, I just, I worry about him. - I worry about her. - More so her. - I do. - Because she's stuck with him. - Yes, and like, girl, like, we gotta, we really gotta sort this out. Like, he is, you're living with enemy number one. And that's hard. - Ain't that the truth? - Yeah, like, you used to be in love, we used to have all the fun in the world, and now you are my number one fan club hater. - Yeah, husband is your biggest hater. - So, look at that, you know, that sucks. You wanna live with someone that compliments you more than anyone else? - Yeah. He's telling you that you're getting complimented too much. - Yeah, you look fine. Fine, just fine. - Okay. - Okay, bye. Um, we don't have an update. It's two years old. I think he got a rubber band at a decent amount and never came back. - I hope so. - I really hope so. - We got nothing, but, you know, maybe she'll see this and be like, yeah, this kind of rings a bell. - I hope so. - Divorce. - Yes, get it, you hot bitch, mom of three, or you could even be living the dream. - I don't need any haters in your corner. What's over? - No. - Yeah. - No, this next one, I can't tell if it's a hater or what's going on here. I'm gonna need your help. - Yeah. - Okay, this is also coming from Emma the asshole. Titled, "Am I the asshole for walking out of my boyfriend's birthday dinner after the comment his dad made about my age? Apologies, accidentally deleted the first one, going to dive right in. I, female 36, met my boyfriend, male 38 months ago. He waited to introduce me to his parents and decided that I'd meet them on his 36th birthday party that was held at their house. Not gonna lie, I was nervous about a number of things. I'm over 30, but I can still get anxious. I'm an introvert, yay, around new people. We got to their house. There were more guests there than I thought, like a lot more. When we sat down for dinner, his dad looked at me head to toe and said, "Oh, God damn, I thought you would look a lot older than you do. You've still got a good 10 years of sex kitten left in you." - Ew, ew, ew, ew, ew, ew. - I was shocked, completely baffled. The whole table went quiet, and I couldn't even look around, but I knew that they were staring at me awkwardly. My boyfriend and his dad were laughing. Hard. It got so overwhelming for me. I excused myself, got up, took my stuff, and started making my way out. My boyfriend followed me while asking where I was going and why. I stood at the door and pointed out his dad's comment about my age. He said that his dad is just like that, brutally honest, and tells it like it is. And so I shouldn't take it personal. I told him it was personal because it felt like he was rating me and my functions as a human based on age. He was like, "Come on. Do you always have to be so dramatic? Let it go. It was nothing." He told me to go back inside, but I decided to go home. He was livid. He sent angry texts talking about how disappointed he and his family were by how I walked out and disrespected them and gave them the wrong impression about me. He also said, "I ruined his birthday and overreacted to nothing." And I should have just laughed it off. He's demanding that I reach out to his family with apologies and make it up to him. Am I the asshole? Did I overreact? Yeah, you're the asshole. Just kidding. No, you're not. I think that there's a kind of girl that could take this from a dad and her boyfriend. Clearly, you are not meant to be in this family. Yeah, that would just gross me out. Like, I don't want your dad envisioning it. But some girl friends, like, get off on that. You don't even mean like, it's like-- Your dad thinks I'm hot, huh? Yeah, it's like fun. Like, oh yeah, like, I'm hotter than my age, whatever. But like, clearly you can't take it. And this is not the family for you. No, and that's okay. So like, I wouldn't want this energy. I wouldn't either. But some girls like that. Yeah. I would never, like, good for you for leaving. Yeah, and standing your ground, again, like holding that boundary of like behavior you're willing to put up with. And like, that's not acceptable to the behavior. So I'm removing myself. That's what I'm talking about. And you know what? You know what pissed me off about that, too? Why do you always have to be so dramatic? I've known you for months, right? Months. Months. Always so dramatic. And you brought me into a situation where I was so pressured and then demeaned me. Like sexualized me in a way that I had to leave. Like, that's shitty. Well, and I think it's like even more so apparent and important. Like, to highlight this, like, she's 36. She's not 86, she's not 96. Like, she's 36. And so the fact that like, he's, he is tying her looks and all of this to like, oh, you 36. Wow, I thought you'd look a lot worse. Wow, like, what the fuck? I'm not dead. I'm 36. Like, come on. They need prison. That whole family needs prison. I just like the monkeys and like, flying monkey mentality of like, people running and like, you need to apologize to them. I'm not saying anything to them. No, no. He was a apologize to me. That was uncomfortable. Absolutely. Ah, top comment on this one. Not the asshole. His dad called you a sex kitten. Wait, he did? That's what I meant. Did I miss that part? Dad looked at her and said, you've still got a good 10 years of sex kitten left in you. I'd be to actually throw up. That's disgusting. Sex kitten. And the boyfriend took the dad's side. Oh, he was laughing really hard. That is so sick that dad is manipulative and has like a. He's like one of those pervy joke dads. Like, you've been around one or two. I feel like everyone has them. They just like constantly make sexual jokes. And it's just like. They think it's fine. This is enough. Yeah, oh my god. I think God, you weren't like touched or anything because I feel like that dad would like take it to like that. Oh, under the table. A little hand on your leg, exactly. I like how to look up sex kitten. I'm just like, what? I've never heard that used. It gives like stripper vibes.
sex kitten like woman of the night. - It's very like, it's definitely an older term, I think, but it's a young woman who asserts or exploits her sexual attractiveness. - Yeah, he fucking wishes that she would. She's just existing. - Just chilling. - Yeah, I mean, here I was invited to a birthday party, which is also a lot, thank you, thank you. - To meet them for the first time. Yeah, not like an intimate gathering note. Like, there was a lot of people there. And like, she's an introvert, I get that. - It's very insensitive. - I like, I just, no. Like, it should have been more one-on-one and like, easy-going. - Even if you were with him for like five years, let's say, to go to like everyone there is a lot. - Yeah. - Like, that's intimidating. - It is, and like, the way he drew attention to her. Like, oh, you sex kitten. The comment goes on to be like, his dad called you a sex kitten, and then they bold this. - And aging sex kitten. I'm so sorry, I keep saying kitten weird. I'm sorry you guys. - Kitten. - Kitten. - Kitten, I was gonna be like, what the fuck? - I didn't notice till you brought it up. - I'm like, why am I saying that? I just learned I said like, hammock, hammock, hammock weird the other day. I'm like, I don't-- - You said hammock? - I said hammock on accident. - Really? - Yeah, sometimes I read too fast, and I just like, don't know what I was saying. - Oh, I think it's cute. - It's, I like it. - Hammock. - Hammock. - Hammock, but yeah, like, he's literally being like, yeah, you still got a little time left in your girl. - Girl, what, how much time do you have in you, sir? - One foot in the grave. - Don't fucking comment on me. Yeah, don't comment on my looks. Sicko. - What about your wife? What, like, what about your wife? - Yeah, right. Like, that's so uncomfortable. - Why are you saying this should be me? - Yeah, no, he needs to be put in his place. I'm very happy that she left. - I know. - But it seems like the sun is in no place for a relationship. - No, I don't think so. - No, is his family. She doesn't deserve those as her in-laws. - No, and a lot of you are pointing out, like, the apple didn't fall far from the tree, and you should throw it far away. Like, basically being like, if those are your in-laws, and he's okay with it, he's laughing, like, you're kind of getting a good preview. - Right, exactly. Like, if you go into this relationship, you're gonna, this is gonna be your life. - Yeah. - Ugh. - So there's one comment here from OP that is worth reading. Someone goes, not the asshole. This is how it will always be with his family. He thinks it's funny, so he will also be like this. I would break up and find someone more respectful. And OP goes, "I'm afraid of this becoming the norm, especially with how he said that his dad is always like this." - Yeah, I mean, can't change people. - No. - Sucks. - No, but I feel like. - I hope she doesn't really love this guy. - No, I think based on that comment, I saw a break up in the future. - I hope so. - We don't know for sure. There's no update. - I pray that this girl gets better in her life 'cause this is terrible. - No one. - To wake up every day knowing that this is gonna be your life. - No, and it wouldn't have been the biggest deal if he would have stood by her side. - Yeah. - And if he would have been like, "Yeah, I doubt it was a lie." - Dad shut up. - Dad, dad. - Enough. Too much. - But like, he didn't back you up. He made it worse. He demonstrated it's okay, and he kinda got a glimpse. - That she never really loved him, and it was just a boyfriend fling thing. - A fling. - 'Cause that would suck. - A fluting thing. - 'Cause she will end up leaving him if she has it already, right? - I think it's here. - Yeah. - I think it's here. Okay, I'm gonna give you a choice on this next one. - Okay. - Okay, option number one. Am I the asshole for telling my husband he can't have his ex at our baby shower? Even though they're still friends, or am I overreacting for telling my boyfriend I won't be his free photographer anymore and sending him a rate sheet. - Okay. Charging your boyfriend? You're the asshole. - Okay, let's see. - I don't know. - Has to be. What do you think? What do you think? - I think you're gonna get the context. And I think. - Come on. - Okay, you ready? - Yeah. - What was the first one again? - I'll just give it to you both. That'll be, that'll be. - Okay, okay, okay, okay. - That'll be number two. We'll end with that one. - The second one was more shocking. - Okay. - I mean. - Oh, rate your charging your boyfriend. - You're gonna love the best. - What are you gonna charge him for going down on you? Like, what? You guys are in a relationship. - You're gonna love this. - Okay. - I'm 26 female and my boyfriend is 28 male and trying to build a fitness page. When we started dating, it was cute. I'd hold the phone while he filmed dead lifts, pick a song, and we'd laugh at the outtakes. In the last months, it has turned into a whole operation. He texts me at 6.50 AM, Golden Hour question mark, and expects me outside with a tripod, two shirts, his shaker, and a towel. Saturdays, I'm at the park squatting in weird angles, so his jawline looks sharp. Sundays, I'm in our hallway, editing on cap cut while he plays ranked. I don't even like being on camera, but people in the comments keep calling me camera girl like that's my name. I missed brunch once because he needed a second take in the stairwell. The neighbor walked by and I wanted to evaporate. I tried to set limits. I said one session a week. He heard daily. I asked him to learn the basics so he could run it solo. He said my hands are steadier, and my eye is better. Last week, he booked a brand shoot with a small supplement shop. He told them we could deliver 15 reels and 40 photos. We, as in-- Hate this guy. Hate him, hate him, dead, death, prison. We, as in me, the unpaid department of everything. They gave him six tubs of pre-workout as payment. I'm allergic to caffeine, and still ended up scrubbing chalk dust off my leggings for two hours. Poor girl. She must really love him. That night, he casually asked if I could stay up to color grade. Now. It's just Sliders' babe. I snapped. I told him I'm done being free labor that I'm happy to help sometimes like a normal partner, but not manage your content calendar. I made a simple rate sheet, $35 per hour, filming, 20 per hour editing, plus a cap at four hours a week. I sent it to him, so it's clear, and we don't fight. He got really pissed and said I'm sabotaging his dream and making our relationship transactional. He says real couples support each other. What the fuck are you doing for me? And that if he had a big exam, I'd want him to quiz me. I said, "Quizine is 20 minutes, not a second job." Now, he's giving me short replies and filming with a friend who DMed me, dang, you went corporate. Did I overreact by putting a price and boundaries on something that started as a favor? I think that you actually underreacted. And I, you know what? You can either, you can, what's that saying? You lead a horse to water. You can't force them to drink. Yeah, exactly. Like, bitch, if this is your hobby, your dream, your whatever destiny, you can learn how to edit and shoot yourself. It's not hard. Yeah. Like, I could teach you in two hours, and I'm sure that she could too. I could put you through a bootcamp. Exactly. Like, let's do-- There's so much free shit on YouTube and TikTok showing you how to edit and use CapCut. Yeah, he's abusive. And her, I mean, even getting to the point of doing a spreadsheet of costs is a lot. Like, that takes time. It does. And I feel like she should have been like, I'm not doing this for you anymore. We're going to hire you somebody. Or you're going to learn yourself. Go on, Fiverr. Go on Upwork. Go look at other people's rates. Yeah. She was pretty competitive. Those are good rates. I thought so too. $20 an hour for editing. But not my boyfriend who I'm seeing all the time. And he's just like walking all over her. And like, if I got a text at 6.50 AM, Goldnower, and I was expected to bring a tripod and your shaker blender for your protein shake or your pre-workout, no. No, he's a bitch. Find somebody that you can pay for all that. Not your girlfriend. Like, that's not romantic. No, and his body is not going to do it for free. I can't imagine his buddy does it for free. No, he's abusing her. And the fact this was so crazy to me, 15 reels and 40 photos. And all he got was six tubs of pre-workout. Was that all he got though? In the back of my mind, I was like, was that all he got? Maybe a little something else under the table. Not cutting her in. Oh, he clearly does not respect her. No. Like, he's not going to cut her into anything. No. Fuck that guy. Hate him. Top comment. Nope. Didn't overreact. Bro wants a free employee, but is trying to frame it as a supportive partner, which is very manipulative. It's so abusive. Like, you're not. What's your goal? Is he supporting you? Probably not. I know. He tried to like, play it off like, oh, the quiz thing like, I would help you. Yeah. And so I'm kind of. It's not equal though, he's like very narcissistic.
a bunch of free labor editing, like that is, that's a career for people. That is like a lot of work for people. But do it yourself. Like it's really not that hard. I think a lot of the best creators and a lot of the best like people out there started on their own. They learned how to do it from the ground up and like that has also helped in their success. So learn how to do it. You know what? Also not to be crazy, but know your worth. You are this man's career. I mean you're the whole reason he has content. Exactly. He's a brand new shit for free. You're like I should be getting paid for this. Like no. No. And the fact that you should be offering to pay for this. Yeah. And the fact that you keep getting called camera girl. That would piss me off. I would be so resentful. Like it's Morgan bitch. Exactly. Come on. Or like maybe I don't even know what a camera is anymore. Oh, I forgot. What's what's that button? I don't have final cut anymore or cap cut. Sorry. It deleted. I have no idea what to do. My phone doesn't allow me to. I'm not figuring it out. Yeah. How strange. So weird. There's no update. It's only nine days old. Oh, send back. So let us know. It's very fresh. Very fresh. So maybe we'll see a little something something soon. I hope so. But until then fuck that guy. That's all we got. That's all we got. But here we go. Our other juicy one. I teased you. So this is titled Am I the asshole for telling my husband that he cannot have his ex at our baby shower even though they're still friends. I 27 female and pregnant with our first child. My husband 30 male is still friendly with his ex girlfriend 31 female. I don't mind that. She's in his friend group. But when we were planning the baby shower, he casually said, quote, we should invite her to she's part of our crew. I told him I'd be uncomfortable. He said I was being territorial and insecure and that not everything's about jealousy. God. It's not jealousy. It's just weird to have the woman he used to love at my baby shower. He told me if I start excluding people for feelings, I'll drive everyone away. Now he's sulking and saying I made things awkward. Am I the asshole for saying no? No. I have so many feelings. Let him out. I think that he is in love with her. Something's still going on. I see a comment here that I really really love. What do you think? I think he's like a harboring feeling. It's like I I understand still having that friend group and like she's in the friend group. She's in the crew. Yeah, but this isn't a group hang. This is your intimate baby shower. You're celebrating your love and this little bundle of joy you created. What does it have to do with your ex? Exactly. Why do you want? Why are you fighting for her to be there? To fuck that. If I say no, then it's a no. It's not a bigger issue. I said no. What if you said no? What am I going to fight for? I'd be like, okay. What if you wanted your ex there? Exactly. Would you be okay with someone I used to be intimate with and sleep with? Love. Yeah, exactly. I said no. That's it. Period. She needs to be here. Why? Yeah. Top comment. I'd ask him why her presence means more to him than your comfort. He hates you. He loves her. He hates you. He doesn't respect you. I just don't understand how he's like if you're going to start excluding people for feelings, you're going to drive everyone away. What does that even mean? It's like trying to drive you into the dirt for your feelings, like a simple feeling of one person. Like I would rather be alone. Honestly, fine. Yeah, exactly. Also, it's like it seems like this is the only person. Yeah. And it's because this was an ex that you loved. What are your feelings on staying in contact with X's? Like how many have you had? I'd say like three big ones. Oh, how many like relationships in total? Like I was like, you have like those awkward situations. I'm like, you can count those. But you like boyfriend girlfriend. Three big ones. Okay. Three big ones. And do you still talk to any X's? Okay, four big ones. Okay. She forgot about one. There's one that like I'm friends with. We don't talk. If I run into him when I'm back home in Minnesota, we're very cordial. Love. He was just someone that like I was able to lean on after another like bad breakup. Okay. We go golfing and just like hang out. So we were actually friends after like we had there were so much distance. We'd both dated other people, but like I don't reach out to them. I don't talk to them. Right. I wouldn't I wouldn't do that. No. And like my like my husband wouldn't care. Like I've told him like, oh yeah, I texted Dave because I had a funny story that you know related on the podcast. And he's like, that's that's hilarious. But like I would never be like, oh, I want my ex at our baby shower or I didn't invite any X's to our wedding. Like I wouldn't cross line. You know what also like I'm just thinking about this like a little bit deeper down. I feel like for him to say like, no, no, she should be at our baby shower. It's not all him. That's the issue. Because like it must be coming at him from her to like we're having a baby shower. We're pregnant. She's like, well, I want to go. And then he's like defending her trying to fight for her with his wife being like, no, no, she needs to be there because she's being like, why wouldn't I not be invited? That's so true. Like she's the problem too. It's like he's weak. I wonder if she's in the background being like, oh my god, I'm so excited. I get to come. But yeah, him not like being able to say like, oh, you know, you're not invited. I know. Do you think there's a world where like, I mean, obviously mom like OP isn't comfortable. But like, you know, for some people this might not be a big issue. Some people might be fine but they're X and like this friendship thing. Like, I don't know. I'm like, is there a world where this isn't weird? I don't know. Just goes back to what we were saying. The gut thing. But if you feel like this is freaking weird, it's freaking weird. I know. But like maybe try to play it cool and like, you know, let her come and see what the vibe is. Is she with anybody right now? Yeah. See how he reacts around her. That's really true. And I guess how does she make you feel? Because I guess by not inviting her, it doesn't seem like things are like super great. Like is this an X that is still a little too comfortable with him when you guys are all hanging out in a friend group. Yeah, you guys are married, but she's still touching his arm very affectionately. And prison inside Joe. No prison. Hate inside jokes like that. Like shut the fuck up. What's the vibe? Yeah. Are they genuinely just friends now and happen to be in the same crew still? She would see we are respectful and know her place in line. I'm very curious what the dynamic is. Yeah, because if she comes to the baby shower, say she is invited, whatever. And she like is trying to be like territorial or whatever. Yeah. Like girl, bye. You are never seeing my face again. No, that ship has sailed. But a lot of people in the comments are speculating like, hey, is there any chance they broke up over the issue of having a child? Like people are like, that's kind of why he wants to invite her. Maybe he feels bad. They couldn't have a baby. And he's just like, I didn't even think about that. I mean, it didn't cross my mind. And I usually go down the rabbit hole very quickly, gag. I know a lot of people are speculating about it. Like maybe the question of a child was what broke them up. It's bad for him to have your ex at the celebration of your wife's baby shower. He seems bent on having the ex there. I want to know why. Yeah, I just got respect your baby mama and your future child. Yeah. Come on. Well, and like, what's your intention? Like, I think that top comment where it's like, why do her feelings matter more than mine? Where's like, why? What's your intention there? What do you find? What even is this conversation? Like, why are we even like, even having a quote-a-quote fight about this? Why wasn't it just like, okay, I respect that guy. Yeah, I said no. All good. It's a no. Hear your baby. Yeah. Yeah. We'll have a good shower. Exactly. Like, choose your battles. I know. Very odd. Very odd. It makes me think there's something else going on. I would agree. You know, hate the girl. Hate the guy. I just immediately go to hate. I mean, it's a strong feeling. It's easy to just like instantly be enraged. It's like, I just, I can't stand them. Be there for her. Like, she's like, yeah, come on. Bare minimum, bare minimum. She literally like bow down to her. I know. So this post is coming from our such comfort level pod. It has quite a few comments. 1.4K upvotes, but I think the person started to get maybe a little overwhelmed with the feedback they were getting because they did delete their post. They even went so far as to delete their whole Reddit account. Oh my god. So we don't have any updates. We don't have any comments from them. So maybe the comments are giving them thoughts and that you like that. It's a little scary because like, you go to Reddit and you're like, maybe I am overreacting. Okay. And then people are like, you're not overreacting. Your husband sucks. And then you're like, too much. Too real. Yeah. Too real. Like, is something going on? And I'm sure that's like, she's pregnant. Like, I would spiral. Like, what's
the fuck's going on? Yeah, hard not to. Hard not to. Yeah, that's all we got. That's the show, baby. Blessed be. I really hope for this girl that she, you know, gets it together. I know I would love an update on so many of these. Yeah, especially, I mean, honestly, what I'm taking from my time here is that guys need to grow up. Okay. And we just, we put up with too much. There's definitely, there was a lot of people here, dudes that need to get a reality check and just support the women. Like, I know we have a lot of couples that like do listen together. And so like, you guys, if you're listening to this show, like, you're one of the good ones, but like, encourage your friends. Be better. Yeah. Do better. Don't be toxic. Yeah. Support your partner. Exactly. Like get it together. Look inward, look outward. It's not all about your toxic masculinity. And if I came off like, really hateful during this, during this, I went to control now. I'm sorry. Like, I'm just thinking the whole time I was like, kill him, hate him, break up with him. No, I gave you some like, really horrible people. I mean, the theme was ugly hearts. Like they had some ugly ass hearts. It was tough to even like, for me to like step outside and be like, well, what, what if he's feeling this way? Like, no, hate him. He's a bit cheesy. Honestly, these ones did not need a devil's advocate. Like they were just straight up the devil. Yeah. Well, I hope that the people that wrote and heard this. I'm going to send them the link to be like, hey, hey. Okay. Yeah. Give me an update now. Update, please. Oh my God. That's like the fun thing about this show. I feel like you just like, wait for the update. I know. Well, I will be honest. I actually gave you more updates than I usually give my guests. Okay. I didn't want to like, I realized I had, um, sal from impractical jokers on a couple of weeks ago. And like, I didn't realize how torturous it was for people to come on here and like, not get an update. I'm so used to it. So I really tried to give you a lot of updates today. I think that you should do that for a lot of guys, especially during the holiday season. Because it is like a Christmas miracle. Like, I can't imagine hearing this like crazy detrimental problem and not knowing what how they handled it. I know. Okay. I'll keep serving up the updates guys. Gigi, where can people find you? I heard you have a podcast. You're back on your vlogs. Yes. Oh, I'm, I'm Gigi Gorgeous everywhere. G-I-G-I-G-O-R-G-E-E-O-U-S. Um, yeah. Filming again. Doing all the things. All the things. You know how it is. Your vlogs are really cute. Like, really relatable. You're very open about everything you're going through in your life. Thank you. I really appreciate it. And you said something and one that I listened to. And you're like, I'm so bad with grief. I hate grief and loss. And I'm like, same. Same. Yeah. So uh, are two peas in a pod. You're very relatable and you're, your content's amazing. Oh my god. Thank you. Well, I love what you do here. I think it's very relatable and very conversation fun. And I mean, girl, whoever writes into this is getting the tea. They are the real honest review tea. I think so. I mean, not to toot my own horn, but like, I think so. No, no, no, you're good. You're well-rounded. You're very like, I, I'm going to write in anonymously. Oh, there we go. A little throwaway account. All of Gigi's links will be in the description and go and check her out. I mean, the gram too. Oh my god, your gram because I'm like, teach me how to fucking pose. So hot, but all in the description. Thank you so much for coming on. It's all I got guys until next time. Bye. Update us. Update us. [Music]
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Gigi Gorgeous shares her early life story, highlighting how her playful, rebellious behavior in youth—like buying fur coats and eating ketchup chips—defined her creative spirit.
She reflects on the cultural divide between Canada and the U.S., joking about serial killer statistics while emphasizing that the theme of "ugly hearts" centers on emotional dishonesty and lack of respect in relationships.
A Reddit story reveals a boyfriend’s inappropriate photo of his friend with him, leading the woman to feel disrespected and unsafe, ultimately ending the relationship after being dismissed and later seeing the couple date.
The second story involves a husband who dangles his wife over a parking garage edge as a prank, which she interprets as a serious threat—leading to emotional trauma and a firm decision to leave the relationship.
A third story details a mother-in-law’s insensitive comment about a new grandchild, sparking a breakdown in the family dynamic and leading the daughter-in-law to distance herself and question her marriage.
A fourth story critiques a husband who dismisses his wife’s newfound confidence and self-expression, calling it invalidating and insecure, with the community agreeing he is the true "asshole."
A final story shows a woman walking out after her boyfriend’s father makes a degrading sexual comment about her age, with the community affirming she acted rightly in protecting her boundaries.
Across all stories, the core theme is recognizing red flags in relationships—such as emotional manipulation, disrespect, and lack of boundaries—and trusting one’s gut instincts to prioritize self-respect and safety.
Summary:
In this episode of Two Out Takes, Gigi Gorgeous and host Morgan explore several real-life relationship stories through the lens of "ugly hearts"—emotional dishonesty, disrespect, and toxic behavior. The first story involves a woman confronting her boyfriend for sharing a photo of his friend seemingly mounting him, which she sees as inappropriate and a sign of emotional manipulation. The boyfriend dismisses the issue, leading her to end the relationship, highlighting how platonic friendships can cross lines when they involve power imbalance or objectification.
In another story, a husband’s prank of dangling his wife over a parking garage edge is condemned as a dangerous, boundary-crossing act that reflects deep emotional manipulation and a lack of respect, especially when it causes lasting trauma. A third story details a mother-in-law’s dismissive and offensive comment about a new grandchild, which triggers a breakdown in trust and leads the daughter-in-law to leave the family and reevaluate her marriage. A fourth story critiques a husband who discourages his wife’s self-expression and confidence, viewing it as an act of insecurity and control.
Finally, a woman walks out after her boyfriend’s father makes a crude, sexual comment about her age, reinforcing that such remarks are not just inappropriate but deeply offensive. Across all cases, the episode emphasizes that recognizing emotional red flags—like disrespect, manipulation, or boundary violations—is crucial. The hosts stress the importance of trusting one’s gut, standing firm in personal boundaries, and prioritizing mutual respect and emotional safety in relationships.
Each story illustrates that true connection requires empathy, honesty, and a commitment to treating others with dignity.
FAQs
Yes, it can be seen as disrespectful and inappropriate, especially if it makes the recipient feel objectified or disrespected. It may indicate a lack of boundaries and could be a sign of unhealthy or manipulative behavior in a relationship.
Quasi dating refers to a relationship that is not officially committed but has elements of dating, such as spending time together or being romantically involved, without being fully exclusive. It can create confusion and may blur the lines between friendship and romance.
Yes, it's valid and healthy to set boundaries and leave a situation that makes you uncomfortable. Being objectified, especially with degrading language like 'sex kitten,' can be deeply disrespectful and invalidating.
Yes, pranks or jokes that involve physical or emotional danger—like dangling someone over a ledge—can be a form of emotional abuse. The intent to scare or test boundaries can indicate a lack of respect and emotional manipulation.
No, it's not wrong to feel hurt. Comments like 'you'll be the only grandma' when a parent has passed can be deeply insensitive and disrespectful to grief and loss. Standing up for yourself is a sign of strength and self-respect.
Yes, dismissing a partner's growth or new confidence can be emotionally abusive. It shows insecurity and control, rather than support. Encouraging self-worth and celebrating personal growth is healthy and loving.
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