UConn’s Miracle, Weirdest NBA Season Ever, A Scary Playoff Team Draft, and an Iffy Expansion Plan With Zach Lowe

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And I think it is part of like winning back to back MVP's. I need to feel like the second season is at least mildly different than the first season. So he's been better from an efficiency standpoint. Yes. I think he's been better at the end of the games. It feels like it's like surprising when he doesn't come through in the last five minutes. Like even the game today, it's like, oh, here we go. This is going to start scoring. But the big thing is he, there was like a character reinvention in a fun way where they became more villainy, which I think kind of weirdly helps the case because I was like to think of the MVP years like what happened that year? What like 30 years from now? What happened that year? Oh, what was that year? And this was like, oh, it's the year S.J. went back to back, got better than he was the first year. And got a little villainy. And that's what I remember from that year. So I'm good with it. Is he really any different? Is it any of this any different though? Or is it just like if you're saying they got villainy? What's different? It's the same. They didn't do anything different. I think we changed. They didn't change because they've been successful. And now I think they've entered that zone that sometimes players and teams can enter where you're like, ah, like these guys. I will say not to not to be the defend the refs guy or defend the thunder guy or whatever. Because I do think it's hilarious that Mike Brown has two technical fouls this year and they're both just losing his shit. The line of coaches like these coaches need a support group now with like him and Chris Finch and all the coaches who have just lost it because of the thunder. But there are even even in a game where he shoots 16 free throws and there's a couple where you're like, oh boy, did he kick his leg out? That looks a little wonky. There are a couple of drives like one Mitchell Robinson kind of better met the Raymond. I kind of expected him to get a call and he didn't get a call. He's just in the paint a lot. And it's worth at least noting that even as you maybe are getting enraged at the whistle that he seems to be getting, there are these stray plays here and they were like, oh, he didn't get that call. And he fell over. Okay. It's interesting. Couple of things. He gets a good whistle. Let me be clear. It's definitely favorable. The scale was on your podcast on Thursday and I was saying it concurrently. I hadn't heard yours talking about the too many guys theory with O.K.C. It's one of my favorite theories. I remember arguing about this with Darryl Mori. I don't know how many years ago. You noticed it again today. They put 11 guys. J.D. Up looked way better tonight. I thought the most athletic he's looked since he came back. How about the one where he streaked through the entire next roster on a fan's break? Yeah. I'm going to be interested to see how this shakes out with them. You know, like AJ Mitchell, who I think is really good. I'm a huge fan at the QSADO good season. The three point shots gone a little away from him, but he's just a really good score. I like when he has the ball. It's like four shots in 20 minutes tonight. Right. So they're going to have to figure out like, how can we, how can we kind of wet the beaks of these other dudes. They also played 11 today, which in the playoffs are not. So I assumed on Thursday that Isaiah Joe, he's probably losing minutes in McCain. Those would be the two guys you grew with that when they cut down to nine. Those would be the two sufferers. Yeah. Even today, they're down to 10 and 11 minutes. The interesting one is Caruso because you've been asking like, who's in the closing five for the Thunder? And I think tonight was yet another tell that Caruso is in the closing five. And so that like, who is some of that's going to be Hardenstein coming out. Some of it may be Dort coming out here and there and it's like, case and Wallace won't get as many reps in the closing five. But like the two guys who have indisputably, maybe three if you want to include case and Wallace, like earned that level of, there's only five, but like the guys who qualify or like no brainer, these guys belong in a closing five or Wallace, Caruso and Mitchell have all elevated to that level. Like I trust AJ Mitchell as a closing guy for the Thunder. And so it's just like, it's going to be matchups. It's going to be, you know, does this team have a little guard that we want as many guys as possible that can hunt him on when we have the ball? It's going to be really interesting. So all right, let's play it out there. Who they're going to play around to Denver? Maybe Denver. Okay. SGA, J Dub and Shet are all out there and I have two spots left. I'm guessing it's Caruso and then either Hardenstein or Wallace depending on, if I want to go bigger or smaller and I don't think Dort's out there, which is different from last year. You've just benched Dort. You haven't mentioned Mitchell and a lot of it, the Denver matchup is a peculiar one because you have the, you know, Yokech who's the second best best, but whatever, whatever you think he is. And obviously sort of they famously used Caruso on him at the end of that series last year, but really only at the end of it. And other than that, this sort of textbook way you want to guard him is with Hardenstein and then have Chet on Aaron Gordon roving around or Chet on whoever roving around. And so if you're double big, that's one other perimeter guy that you got. It's, it's, it is a, the definition of a first world problem. Yeah. So these are first world problems and great problems, but there are also things you have to figure out and extra decisions you have to make as, you know, you're down to one in a game four and somebody's building where you're down three, two in a game six. And you have to make sure you nail this. And that's just it's last year I felt like it was a lot more cut and dry. Like when we were going to those finals games in Indiana, it was like, I know who's going to be out there for them. Not positive this time. All right, scary playoff team strapped. Oh, okay. We're doing this right now. We're banging it out. I was not prepared for this, but I'm excited about it. No, we're, we're winging it. I didn't make a list. We're going team. You don't want to see in a playoff series the most. And it could be any playoff series round one, two, three, four, it doesn't matter. No, it's not. It's not. It's a scary playoff team strapped. Here's the caveat. I'm getting the completely healthy version of each team. So I'm giving you the hypothetical sixers. I'm giving you the Celtics with how good Tatum look today. I'm giving you, I'm giving you Charlotte with all their guys. Like you name it. I'm giving you Detroit with Kade back. So we're taking, we're moving, we're going hypothetical ceiling of each team. Who's the scariest playoff team to not the best, the scariest? What is scariest, scariest lake? I just, they're unpleasant to play against or are we talking upset potential? I mean, the scariest is Oklahoma City still. I took boring answer, but what's your number one? I would have taken, I would have taken San Antonio first. Well, either one, that's fine. They're incredible. And when he certainly is very scary. This is why I think it's San Antonio from a ceiling potential standpoint. I'm worried they have one more level in them. I know what OKC's level is. We know what it is. I don't know what it is with San Antonio. I almost don't have a ceiling for the house for them. And it might be what we're seeing now. But I keep taking back to a couple of times over history with these young teams that skyrocketed and also what's happened to them, you know, over the last two months. And that 91 bulls analogy with them or the 86 rockets are like, they might just be ready now. And if they're getting the Wembee that we've seen the last 10 weeks, I think I'm the most scared of that because you put that in a playoff series with the energy of a playoff series. And just what Wembee could do psychologically, combine with this OKC, just trying to figure out who they are as good as they are right now. I think I'd be the most scared. If I'm the seventh seed, if I'm Phoenix, in my more bummed out that I'm playing San Antonio or OKC. You're just happy to be there. What a great season for the Phoenix sun. Sure. But I think you're probably I think you want to I don't know. It's a good question. This is why this is a good question. Well, it's because it's the experience factor, right? Like can you see Dylan Brooks in the locker room being like these guys never been here before? Like we can pump these guys and get them to win. I'm going to get into Wembee watch. I'm going to rattle him. He's going to throw an elbow at me. Like can you just see that conversation unfolding? I could. That's what you would talk yourself into of your plan, essay. But these guys haven't been here before. We can get to them. We can but we can knock down Wembee. We can beat him up. No layups for him hit him every time he's trying to dunk. You know, I mean, I think the spurs can win the title. I am not super rattled by it. By the, I mean, by the all of NBA history, essentially suggesting that you cannot just go in and win the title unless you're a completely remade team like the 2008 Celtics or something like that. But we did the deep dive on here a few weeks back. To me, the combination of like Fox and Wembee, I'm playing a full season. It's almost like a free agency coup, right? Wembee, I'm a leveling up like this Fox playing a full season. I think they can win the title. I'm not worried about the lack of experience at all, but you know, it does cut against NBA history. And yeah, they're absolutely terrifying to play against. And I think these are the top two picks, no matter how you slice it. So you go win A1B. Yeah, because I mean, I'm one of the ones who say that I think you need to taste your own blood in a playoffs before you can win the title. So here's the thing. History says they're not going to win the title this year because it doesn't happen. History also said we weren't going to be able to have a 7 foot 7 guy who's this athletic and it's just a fucking alien. By the way, for what? Maybe you don't care. I'm not you. Maybe you the aggregate you of basketball fans don't care. like to do showed up in like the gold medal game of the Olympics in his home country against Team USA and like wanted every bit of that game and that match up and wanted every bit of Germany and Serbia and everyone else that they could have faced in the Olympics. Those are pretty pressure packed games. Yeah, one thing, this is what I've heard from people who've spent time around him. I don't, he's a typical from the previous generation. He doesn't want to be buddies with a lot of these guys. He's not like, Oh, cool. I can't, I can't wait to get to know Luke and Dachurch better. He wants to like destroy all these dudes. He's got a little bit of that Kobe MJ gene that I think could pay, could pay handy in the playoffs. Finals MVP, Fandall allows you to bet on this and the Spurs odds like four days ago were like plus 550 to win the title and six to one for Wemby to win finals MVP. That's not dropped. He's plus 550 for finals MVP and Shay is plus 145 and that seems completely fair. You have the third pick and the scary draft. It's where it gets interesting. It does indeed get interesting. I bet we have the same team. I despite the fact that I just watched the Utah Jazz score like 110 points in the paint against them. Yeah, I'm still picking Denver as the third scary team because I just know what those two dudes can do together. You and I also the same day on different podcasts, unknowingly talked about is there now a second team all NBA case for Jamal Murray with some of these guys falling by the way I did and him having a sensational season. And yeah, their defense is getting shredded right now. I think it's part of, you know, everyone working their way back to conditioning back into chemistry, back, I'll pay Watson's just coming back Aaron Goren's been in now line up and on and on. Part like we're playing some teams. We don't respect it all like we're we know we're going to just win the game and part, you know, wake us up in the playoffs. Now I don't think there's like a top 10 defense hiding inside the number 22 or 23 ranked defense or whatever they are in the NBA, but I think they're better than they've shown. They have won a championship recently and they have the best two-man game in the league and so I'm still taking Denver three. Have you seen Gordon looks fine? He looks yeah, he looks mostly like Aaron Gordon. It's fun. Mostly. I feel like he's driving the car right now and he's driving like he's in fourth gear driving about like 55 in the Mara Parkway. Hasn't really swung over into the fast lane yet. Just kind of cruising along. There's another gear for him. That's why I don't know what to do with their defense yet because we haven't seen him do the crazy Aaron Gordon stuff. I also had them third and I think the Celtics have to be fourth, especially if you saw what Jason Tatum did today, which he looked he looked the most like Jason Tatum that he's looked all season. Even kind of yelled at the crowd like he's getting swagger back. I mean, is there like a New England transplant community in Charlotte? It sounded like half the I mean, I know the Celtics are one of these teams. The fans travel. There's fans everywhere, but that was extremely loud in an arena that has been like a very good home court arena for Charlotte and every other game I've seen. Even like the Nix did not have that much of a presence in fan wise. The Nix had some. Philly had a bunch yesterday and the Celtics had the most, but this seems to be like a recurring theme with these road games with the Celtics. I guess the bigger question is, do does Boston just have the most transplants? Are they just are they're just Boston Boston cells of people planted in every city? It feels like because it happens in baseball too. It's been happened with the Red Sox for about 20 years. The case for the Celtics. I mean, Tatum just came in today with no Jaylen Brown or no Derek White and just basically ran the offense and looked like the old Tatum again. They have all all these bench guys that just seem to be interchangeably effective and they kind of have everything. You mentioned a bench guys. One of the notes I took during the game today was I cannot believe that after losing all the guys, the Celtics lost in the offseason, that they were able to put out a credible lineup in a competitive game in the second half with Tatum at center. So all wings and guards on a night, the Jaylen Brown and Derek White did not play and you're like, yeah, all these like I trust all these guys. Jordan Walsh, yeah, sure. You know, Shireman, you're good. It's just incredible how far all of these guys have come and makes you appreciate all the work that must have been going on behind the scenes with the player development coaches because it's just like that would have been unthinkable before the season and yet here they are and they blitz Charlotte and I'll tell you the plays that if I'm if I were a Boston fan, the what the Tatum plays that most heartened me were the two pick and rolls where he crossed up Calkbrenner in a deep drop and just went full blast right at him and finished over and through him. Like that was those are high level athletic plays and he may not be all the way back yet but I just continue to just be a gape at how awesome he looks. I mean, the efficiency is starting to come no too but just I test. I can't believe how good he looks. Everything is back except for blocks and free throw attempts from the stats for the last five years. The game today he looked the further slung I was thinking about something. I would love with the Celtics have really good reporters. I would love for somebody to ass-tate him this specifically. I think he's a better passer than he was and I wonder when you sit and you watch basketball for what was it four and a half five months we're just on the bench like a fan which he's these guys have been playing games non-stop since they're six years old. You go to college you play you're in the pros he's playing all the time. I'd love to know like just sitting on the bench for that long and just watching like did anything about basketball change for him because I feel like things slowed down for him a little and I think he's seeing passing angles that I don't remember him seeing in the same way and I thought he was a good passer like he averaged six assists last year. It sounded like he wasn't a good passer but something slightly different and I wonder if it's that. Well these guys just keep getting better in different ways like Jalen Brown leveled up and the more experience you have the more you learn but I do think there's probably something to not only watching it from that angle but watching your teammates all thrive in elevated roles and say okay like that you know maybe I this pass that maybe I wouldn't have thrown I can throw this summer. Don't you think and I mean this the complete opposite way from like engaging to your turn my turn concerns but do you think these two games without Jalen Brown must be super super good for Tatum just to like feel that the full breadth of his game like all right like in one without Derek White too like I can I can do this and sort of get in even more of a rhythm. Yeah I mean look I think those guys are great I don't think there's any sort of alpha dog car keys stuff that those guys have been playing they want to title together but I'm sure deep down there's for three percent of Tatum like yeah this team's running really good with Jalen Brown I wonder what it would be like if I was just in his spot for two games and guess what they didn't miss a beat with him in the same spot so I do think that's part of it I also think we're talking about watching the teammates I do think wonder if that's part of it too where you're just sitting on the bench watching these guys and you're noticing little things about them that you wouldn't notice if you're on the court with them in the same way right like oh Sharman loves that spot or just little stuff but the way he's fit in so seamlessly I think speaks to that he stayed with the team and I think some of these guys would have just gone and worked off on their own and you know kind of popped in and out he was with the team all the time we have to take a break the scary playoff draft is about to get really fun because we have a San Antonio okay see okay see San Antonio Denver Boston and now it's gonna get serious but we're gonna take a break first this episode of the Bill Simmons podcast is presented by Sam's Club it is that time of the year when you just got to get in your car and go somewhere than that plenty of times of my life nowhere I get you ready to go quite like Sam's Club snacks the gear super low prices on gas they got a bunch of stuff that keep you in the whole crew rolling and here's what you got to do you got to join the club of yes and at sams club dot com slash yes and you must be 18 years or older to purchase membership of membership is subject to qualifications visit sams club dot com slash yes and for details this episode is brought to you by expedia family vacations are great my favorite family vacation ever I went to cover the 2012 Olympics in London and I brought my family my son was five my daughter was seven and we were in London for three weeks and we went to Paris for another week and it was just awesome our kids were the right age to travel that's by number one family vacation I've ever had but we've had plenty of those trips everyone's excited but you hit the planning part suddenly it feels like there's too many movie pieces you start talking yourself out of it can't find the right flight can't find the right hotel that's why expedia is a total game changer flights hotels vacation rentals cars activities everything's in one spot which makes the whole process way easier and the bundle and save feature is huge the more you bundle the more you can save because you can book what you need now add more later keep saving on the way book your flight today I attach your hotel tomorrow and you're still good so if you're thinking about your Your next family getaway, bundle your flights, cars, hotels, vacation rentals. And save savings varied members only book your next trip with Expedia today. All right, scary playoff teams draft. I'm on the edge of my seat. This is one series only. San Antonio, okay, see Denver Boston off the board. Who do you have, Zack? Well, tell you who I don't have. First of all, is the team that lost to the Raptors by 50 something points today. They were lowered by a list of Orlando magic will not be my selection of holes. They're really smokes that feels like that's it. That's an uh oh, that's a I mean, we were already at a stage like the official uh oh was when Paulo had the like yeah, we don't make adjustments coming out of half time thing in Jamal Moses. Like, well, the only adjustment to Troy made was to play really hard. Losing to the Raptors by 50 something points is an official like everyone's on notice. So I'm not taking Orlando care. They've lost seven of their last eight. The one loss was to the one win. Or the one win was to Sacramento. And there's a thing on NBA red it right now that's it's called low light. This is the headline three hours ago. Arguably the worst stretch of basketball NBA history, a compilation of all Orlando magic possessions during Toronto's 31 to nothing run. This is a four minute YouTube quip that you could easily find now. That's a cry for help. No, I've been watching games all night and not engaging with I haven't been on Twitter. I haven't like been falling. Is that the biggest run? It's something to zero run in the history of the NBA. Yes, they said as far back as they've ever measured play by play. But they don't know it might have happened in like 1948. There's some years missing years. Anyway, who's your fifth pick? I will go. You know, against my better judgment. I will go with the nicks as the fifth pick in the draft. I still have them fifth. I still respect this core. Another loss to the thunder tonight. Got blitzed by the hornets the other night in Charlotte. So it's not it's not trending great. We're back on like the cat seesaw where it's like cats invisible cats being benched cat has taken three shots and then cat has like 12 points in two minutes and everything's fine and cat like I it just blows my mind how often we ride the same roller coaster with him. I still think there is when they click, they can reach a pretty goddamn high level and they are top six on both ends of the course. So I and yet there are all these reasons where you're like, do you really trust them against the best, best, best teams? But I'm still taking the nicks and it's worth noting they don't hate the Celtics matchup that that is looming in the second round of the play. They shouldn't. That's a team they've had a lot of success against. They should not hate it. Um, a lot of nicks questions for me, but mainly why is this team always down 10 to 12 points against good teams? And they're the rallying back or they don't, but why is everything so hard with the nicks? And they have that they have a, the starting lineup has just been okay and not as good as it should be given the high wattage people that are in it. I just don't know what the right move is. They started. They started the season with hard coming off the bench and immediately concluded like this guy is the heartbeat of our team. We can't function without him. The obvious one would be bridges. I just don't think 70 something games into the season. They have to wear with all to do it. No, this is to there. And so, but yeah, and now they have dousmic ride back. So they have a, they have a, a deep roster that they've got to figure out now too. Assuming you get hurt today. That's true. That was that just though there's just door four dork collisions every game where it's just like, okay. There's the door, the door pile over there. Yeah, he's really the, he's carrying the torch from Bruce Bowen, the old Ron our test. There's just certain guys. So these accidents seem to find them somehow. I had the Lakers in the five spots. So I'm taking them here. For one series, if, if I know smart and LeBron are healthy and I have to play Luca and I have to beat them four times in seven. And I'm also looking at some of the foul stuff that happens with them that we don't need to belabor. You bring it up every time you can't release. They're like five more free throw attempts at game, I think for the last five years. And I just think they're really hard to play, especially at the end of these games. When it's a two point game with four minutes left, you just feel like they're going to win. And they could have two guys on the court that are just complete zeroes offensively and it doesn't seem to matter for them. And I would not want to see them in a playoff series. So I'm taking them fifth. Who do you have? So we're just to be clear, we're just doing like scary teams. We're not doing like the bracket, the bracket breaks like this. Just pure scaryness. Then with apologies to Detroit and I guess Cleveland, I'm going Minnesota and it's been a rocky month for Minnesota with Ant out of the lineup in the last few games. Every time you think Randall has like rediscovered his verve a little bit, even if it's like an eight of 19 game, but he looks frisky and he's doing something. He has a two of 13, you know, lays an egg like you did the other night against Detroit. Now no JD McJay knows that came no ants, whatever. But I always been out the last couple games too. That's a little problematic. I don't think he has a calf thing that that's a scary word, the C word calf. I guess the new C word, that's a great point. Yeah. Yeah. Just called the NBA C word. The NBA C word. I like. Look, conference finals, two years in a row, scoff at it if you wish. Ios, the perfect bench addition for them and they have a guy. They have one guy who is just like you, you talk about Luca being terrifying in a playoff series. Absolutely Luca is terrifying. Anthia where it's can reach his version of that terror alert level. So I'm, I'm, I'm sticking with my way to talk about bones, Silent. Well, bones, way, way to the bench, baby bones, bones, get bones. Listen, for a playoff series, these are the kind of guys that swing a playoff series when bones, Highland just says 30 in a game for absolutely. We've seen it. I like the Minnesota pick. I thought I was inspired. And you've even, even inspired me as well. See this game you were dubious of. You were like, oh, it's the best. Now you, now you get it, which is why this is where we're going for the next pick. This is the eighth pick. There's no way it'll continue for an entire playoff series. I don't care. Oh, no, I don't care. It's happening. I feel, it's happening. It's scary. That was unbelievable yesterday. And Bede was awesome in that game, including the winning block where they showed a replay. And both of his feet were like a foot off the floor. Paul George had a 26 and 13. This is again Charlotte for the people who missed this. Maxi looked great. And I thought the team was really locked in. I wanted the game. I thought they really intimidated Charlotte. And some of the stuff they did defensively, I was, I was kind of shocked by. They were blitzing those little handoff things and those little pick and pop plays they do. They're picking up a mellow at half court. They were really physical. I just thought, I thought it was like a playoff performance. Now granted Charlotte Providencia coming. Charlotte played the next Thursday. The Celtics today was the same which game. I was impressed. So I don't think they're the one they, one of the eight best teams. But from ceiling, scaryness standpoint, their number eight for me. Well, and we're talking one series, right? Like we're not talking like can this team hold together for three playoff rounds or four playoffs? Which they want because I don't think we know that. And you're, you're caveat at the beginning was you get the fully healthy version of this team. So like that's the version that has existed for maybe 72 hours in the last calendar year. But yes. Um, sure. I, it's, it's now is the time. It says, we've waited too long. Cleveland is my pick. The Cleveland Cavaliers, Jared Allen got back healthy. This is a extremely dynamic top four. Struces back tons of options for like the remainder of the minutes with all the guards that they have. Yeah. Just it just feels like it's been an season for the Cavs in a lot of different ways. They had to get off a garland. They have James Harden who I know you don't trust in nor should we in a, in a game six or game seven of a playoff series, even Donovan Mitchell is in a slump right now. Jared Allen's coming off knee tendonitis. Evan Mopley is just, he's very good and he's not making the next leap to great that we're all sort of waiting for. Struces has been out the whole year. I think this is a really good team. I, I, I, they're actually one of the more, I still don't really know what to make of them. I think it's been about 20 games with hard and their offense has been sensational. Their defense has been crap, but the big four guys have barely played any minutes together. And if there's one thing that I'm really curious to watch for these last six, seven eight games, half of which are just tankathons around the league. It's, it's that it's I want to see those four guys Mitchell, Harden, Mopley, Allen. How does that look together? Because I think there's a really high ceiling here that it feels like the NBA cognizant he has just sort of moved away from them and in this like Boston hoopla, which is very well deserved with Tatum going back and all the stuff going out west and what Kate and is he going to come back healthy Cleveland just kind of there to the side. And I, I think we got to bring them back center stage a little bit. Sometimes this is not your year. Starting starting to wonder if that's what we've said that about Denver too, right? Who was the third pick in the draft Denver? Obviously has a player that's better than anyone they have. Tell you this, that is a Cavs fan. wouldn't be happy about the Quipper's box scores lately. And their net rating with Garland on the floor as well has been none of none of what has happened with Darius Garland on the Quippers would make me happy if I was a cab son. - No, because you just did the rarely seen old guy for a guy about to hit his prime who had kind of had a rocky couple of years but there were real reasons for it with injuries and you bailed because you thought you had a chance to win the title. Now you're probably gonna be the fourth seed in the East. You just went 10th and our scary teams draft. - Which, but which, and you gave up Garland? - Which as you noted though, fourth, if that's indeed where they end up and they have a very easy schedule. - It's a great, fourth is a great spot. Maybe that's part of this as they're delighted to be fourth. - And you know who we haven't drafted yet in the scary teams draft. - Well, you're not up yet. - I know. - I'm gonna take a moment out. - No, I have the trait. - Okay, that's what I was talking about. - Like, oh, I thought you were talking about another team. - Yeah, it's the trait and I said this to Goldsbury Thursday in a weird way not having caged for a couple weeks and seeing this new level for Jenkins maybe will help them in the playoffs, but I still wonder, I don't think they, to have holes that I just worry about with some of the teams that they're gonna have to play. Like when they play the Celtics and the Celtics can throw those two big wings at them, Tatum and Brown and their wings are Tobias Harris and Robinson and Herder and Javante Green. - And that's our Thompson. - So, our Thompson be harassing somebody. - Well, but he's probably gonna have to guard one of the guards on the Celtics, right? Like, wait, or, see, that's the part. I don't know, I just feel like there's a physicality with the two wings that they're gonna have issues with. So, our Thompson now winning the Thompson brothers who's having a better season contest now. He's like minus 200. - Hard to agree. I think I listen to you. - Hard to agree. - I listen to you in Kirk on N Thompson. - I don't know. - I don't know if people's expectations for him just got out of control. You guys were talking like he's having, like he's trending down Kirk said he's trending the wrong way. - Well, nobody guards him anymore. - But no one guarded him ever. He's, I thought he was gonna get better at it though. - He's 23 years old. He's averaging 18, eight rebounds, five assists a game after averaging 14, eight rebounds, four assists a game. Yes, he's shooting a little bit worse this year. 56% on twos, down from 60% on twos. Free throws are by the way, quietly, and this is the most encouraging part. He's shooting 78% from the line, which, which, but I just, to me, he's more or less kind of what I expected him to be this year. I did not think that he was gonna be like, oh, now suddenly it's, he's gonna be a point guard. And he's gonna be a 20 and point eight assist guy. That's not who he is. And in fact, they'll look, they're just the weirdest team in the league. - Which one would you rather have? - I'm in. - Over SR? - Yeah. I mean, they're both awesome. I would love to have either one of them on my team. I think he has a little bit more offensive creativity to him. Now he's been able to show that more than his SR has. But I am curious to see now that, I mean, the Houston is the weirdest team. They are unwatchable one night. If they're not been drafted yet. - Interesting. - I know, and I don't think they're gonna be next. But I am interested to see more of this. Okay, we've now committed to starting Reed Shepherd. In part because Taris and Hezim has been made a shot in three months and he's left us no choice but to start Reed Shepherd. Now we've started Reed Shepherd. That puts on MENTAMPSON. I think it to a more natural role for this stage of his career. And I'm interested to see just sort of how that looks. - I took to trade. So now here are the teams that, well, there's one tooth, we'll go faster. I can't wait to see who's last. Who do you have next? I just took the trade. - Where do we, we're cutting off at the 10 teams in each conference that are in? That's where we're doing all the 20. - Well, we can go fast. - I'm more interested to see who goes last. - Of course you are. So we can't pick the hypothetical bucks with the honest. He's like, yeah, there's only 10 games out. - No, they're out. - Are you picked to Detroit? So that leaves-- - If Charlotte Atlanta, the Clippers are Orlando. - I know what. - Houston Toronto are all left. - Charlotte, no question. - I think this is actually, I wanna say it's too low for Charlotte, but I don't know who I would remove. You know, - It's a weekend for Charlotte. - Interesting moment actually for Charlotte because it's been nothing, but flowers and candy for three months and three months is not a short amount of time. They've been like number one or number two in net rating for a long half the season now. And they have been looking at this stretch of their schedule as okay, let's see what this looks like. And they started off with just Rockets Home win over the next. That feels like, all right, we've arrived. Everyone's watching this game. This is the kickoff of a brutal end of our schedule and we just do like ace the test. Philly comes in, that's it, you know, when I think Charlotte should expect to win that game based on how these teams have played the season. And Philly sneaks it out in the end and it's like, oh, they got some-- - Charlotte blew the game too. - Well, but it's like-- - They run the bonus with like seven minutes left and I don't know. But, game made me a little nervous 'cause the crowd got nervous and their offense fell apart and everybody all of a sudden looked like they'd never been in a big game before and it made you go, oh yeah, that's why we don't decide this stuff with net rating. You actually have to use your savvy in games like this. They didn't really have it yet. - Today, back to back, fine. Boston was rested. They were in Charlotte last night, back to back off a tough game, but no Derek White, no Jail and Brown and kind of got outclass and a little frazzled offensively. Now, I still think they're an extremely dynamic and very dangerous team, but this is, they play the nicks I think on Tuesday or Wednesday. This is an interesting little moment for them, like at Madison Square Garden coming off these two losses. And real stuff at stake, like you want to get to eighth at the very least you want to get to eighth to get into the top half of the play in game. Like, I've been very interested to see how they respond, but the track record of the last three months is wholly crap. So I'm very happily taking them here. - They were before the game yesterday, they were number one in net rating for 40 games. 40 games is half the season. Every sort of net rating thing, they were number one, number two, number three. If you did 25 games, 20, 30, the last two games were not great though. And I do think they have a flaw other than the lack of experience. I don't have anyone on their team who can guard those maxi Mitchell types. And you could say, oh, well, nobody has a guy like that. Well, then there's also Brunson. You go on down the line and it's just those guys can do whatever they want against Charlotte. So that's one thing. And then, you know, they looked a little small against some bead. A lot of teams do, but physically I thought they had grant limbs on him in the fourth quarter or kind of 'cause they didn't really have any other options, right? So. - That didn't bother me much. - They're year away, I think is my point. But I do think if I had to pick who could go further in the playoffs, Charlotte or Philly, I would take Charlotte. Who would I be more scared of for one series, Philly? - Forgive me, I have to help the-- - I get hypothetical. - The hypothetical sixers. I get it. And bead just walks into 30 points. And-- - That 20 footer thing he does. - It's just automatic. I mean, it's like you're surprised he misses. Two, two, two, and then all of a sudden he's shooting and it just works every time. - But it's a good point about Maxi because I was, you know, tracking who they assigned to Maxi. And it was Knipple at the start of each half. And like, you know, we all love Carpool Khan as Van calls him. But that's a tough matchup for him. But it's, it, it, like, it feels like it should be Brandon Miller but Brandon Miller often needs to guard somebody bigger or is not quite ready for yet. And then it's like, all right, Cian James, we gotta play you more. That's probably bad for our offense. But can you come on Josh Green? Like it's a tough matchup. And then, and bead bullying them, like you said, you know, that's how the brawl started. Jalen Duren was just like, oh, lucidia about to hear an awesome story. We love the antlers, guests on the podcast, all that. But like, how about I just beat the shit out of you? 'Cause I'm like much, much bigger than you. - 50 pounds, that very little. Yeah. Khan was, I think, well, Khan and Lemo together were 10 for 40 yesterday. They're not winning many games with that. - No. - But part of it was 'cause Khan had to chase around Maxi for a whole bunch of it. See, I'm making these kisses. All right, we'll go quickly. I'll take Atlanta next. So let's go rapid fire here and see who's last. - Houston. - I'll go Clippers. I thought about it. Now we're, now I'm, now it's, now it's getting grim. - Now it's grim for me. - So I can't theoretically make Jimmy Butler healthy. That doesn't count. - No, he's that. - Okay. - That would be bending the rules. Miami. - Okay, I'll take Toronto. - So we're left. - So we're left. - Oh, God. Okay, all right. You know what? I'm gonna happily take the warriors 'cause I get, I'm theoretically healthy staff and healthy porzingus. Let me see it. Let's go. I'll go to war with those guys. I'll take them. - I'll take Phoenix then. - I forgot about Phoenix. (laughs) - Well, you could have Phoenix. I'll take Golden State. - No, I'll take Golden State. Come on, John. - I'll take Phoenix. - Even for just nostalgia. I'm taking Golden State. - Supportland's last. - No, you forgot. We have, there's two teams left. - Who else is there? - Someone else is so last that you forgot that they're even in the draft. Who was it Orlando? Yeah, I skipped over them. Yeah, they're last. I mean, they're last. I think they lose. Yeah, they lose. Orlando, if you, if we do this draft on the day you give up a 31-0 run, you come last. You lose. You lose. There's no every year a coach gets fired with like two weeks to go. That's not going to happen in Orlando, is it? I don't think so. It's actually a conversation I've had with a few people in coaching agents around the league is you know, we're a year removed from the Atelman Taylor Jenkins double. What the hell just happened and is that? Are we going to see any of that this year? But that certainly feels like a scorching seat right now. A couple other quick things. So if we don't get curry, and we're close to knowing whether we're going to get that curry or not, curry's basically said if he doesn't get a couple ramp up games, TM LeBron James. If you do who's the key who started ramp up and beat is ramping up all the time. TM and beat. The 910 play in game in the West with no curry. Do we even televised it? Should it just be terrestrial radio? What do we do with that game? Tape delay. We go back to tape. Portland, Portland, Goen State. Do we do maybe an AI broadcast? I keep AI characters. I can't believe you're saying this about a scoot Henderson team of all people. You should be. That's that's this is good. This is good showing some now every every third game. Don't do this to me. I can't. I can't. He's showing some signs. That's all I'm saying. But then it then there'll be every third game. It's like he had how many turnovers. But I'm still I wouldn't you got a hold until the end. Miami. Today was so bad losing to Indiana team that was the first tanking team that actually had people making like Shawshank warden. People don't the Indiana warden telling Jay Huff. He has to miss the two free throws kind of jokes. And Indiana just killed Miami today. India is definitely doesn't want to win anymore ever. And Miami lost to them by 15 and they beat the patient's beat Orlando or last week too. Miami seems happy to be the 10 seed and I wonder if it's intentional because it's actually a better draft pick and they probably feel like what do we care we'll get to the plan we can be to any of these teams anyway. So let's just mess around. I that's the only other explanation other than they're terrible. So I'll give you those two choices. Like we don't really care where we are or we're just we haven't been good this whole time. I think it's more closer to just we're a pretty mediocre team. March band is stuff really quick. I asked you to look up. Oh yeah. The lottery. You're not a lottery guy but I asked you to go look at some clips because we have two different things happening with the NBA draft. We have the top four which everybody is now going to argue about. All four guys are now out of the NCAA tournament. Debanta, Darren Peterson, Cam Booser, Caleb Wilson. I am I do have to say I am going to miss dad Carlos Booser dropping F bombs in the stands. That was a ton in the St. John's crowd. Yeah. That was a good one. So we have those four and that's going to be a great argument in itself of just who good and a lot of it's going to turn in on who gets the top four picks all of this. 567 has now turned into its own awesome argument and it's Burries from Arizona who I absolutely love and I think is my favorite. I don't think he's going to be the best part in this draft but I think he's my favorite. Wagler on a Illinois who's been just incredible and has dragged him to the final four and A-Cuff on Arkansas. And they're going to have 567 in some order and some of it's going to depend on who has those picks because if you have a point guard maybe you take Burries. But I just asked you to look at their YouTube clips really quickly and give me your Malcolm God will blink test of what you saw. So we'll do let's do Burries first. What'd you say? I really enjoy just getting giving myself just enough knowledge to be dangerous to have strong opinions based on. That's what I was hoping for based on. Coming in hot. Burries I may have liked the best of the three. Super physical like plays bigger than his height and his size plays defense. Jumper looked to like the release was a little slow at times but when he needed to speed it up he sped it up from what I saw. Active off the ball like all these guys you need to be a good off ball player too and I think A-Cuff is too like you need to learn how to play off the ball as a secondary ball him there and there's like a lot of back cuts and coming off pin downs and the Burries in the Burries tape but I he plays I think he was listed as 6 4 A-Cuff is listed as 6 3. He plays bigger than 6 4 and just the physicality was kind of interesting to me. He's definitely a little booker-ish when you I don't like in he was he won the state title in California last year and was an awesome offensive part in high school. Arizona has a million guys so they don't need the offense in way. So there's some Steph Castle potential with him where there's more there we're just not seeing it because he's trying to win a title. The defense rebounding hustle stuff competitive stuff I just have zero deaths give me all the stock I'll take all of it and I think when you see a team I think he could potentially go for if it was a team that didn't need a forward and was like you know we really need is a two guard because he's like perfect two guard so we're aligned he's my favorite would you I have a specific thing for Wogler but what did you think when you saw him? Weird weird player and actually it watched a little bit of their elite eight game too because their team their team Croatia their team Yugoslavia like they just it's like a whole Yugoslavia team that is is migrated there. He's he's a very weird player. He moves and I don't mean that in a bad way. He just has weird movement patterns like a like a lot of step backs a lot of spin moves. He's obviously the tallest of the three and he leverages that for all it's worth. I think he's only only hit like 47 48% on twos which is a little discouraging but the guy can really shoot and he can pass. He's just he's the weirdest of the three and the one that I was like I need to actually watch even more on this guy because he's a little he's a little strange but clearly there's something there. To me there's a lot of AJ Mitchell but the ceiling would be higher but same kind of like very unconventional weird herky jerky game. Like Brunson they have say have different bodies but he just kind of knows how to play basketball and how to get shots that he wants to get and doesn't really seem to care how many tall guys are around him of what the angles are. There's a competitiveness with him that I think the tournament sometimes we can overreact it but I think it matters that he was the best guy in this team. No it was an 11 seed that dragged him there. I also liked that he's an overachiever. He wasn't a top 100 recruit. He wasn't like in the his pin top 100 so he's been like a late bloomer and I like that those guys have the chip on their shoulder. I have a cuff ahead of him but I think it's I think it's it's 50/50. I'd like to watch more because I did find myself thinking as I watched 11 minutes on YouTube to be clear. Yeah it's with the blink test scouting. I did find myself thinking how does this translate to a league where everybody's a little taller than the guys that he's facing now. His height is a little bit less of a superpower at the guard spot. Well that's what I think about with Cam Booser because I watched a lot of Duke the last five weeks. His big go-to move is he basically he bullies you and he does these little spin moves and ends up with like the same either jump hook or a little turnaround and his goal is always to get as close to the basket as possible which you can do in high school and you can even do in college. And I don't know if you can do it in the pros in the same way as comfortably and would he never really seem to shoot was that little 12 to 13 footer that co-opied on Arizona has. I did co-opied. It's basically kind of Booser-ish. I'm sure somebody at some point will roll out a take of co-opied's actually going to be better than Cam Booser and here are the five reasons why. But he has this really nice foul line jumper that he's always setting up and Boosers always and that's the kind of step you just don't know until you get to the NBA and all of a sudden you know Jared. Jared Durin's waiting for you. I will say. I don't know why I called him Jared. I will say what do you have for a cuff by the way? Well hold on I want to talk about Cam Booser for a second. I'm just looking at the box score from so again I put stats every game. I want to watch. I want to sit down and watch more because I've very limited information. You're going to have to this year because this is like a once in a decade top nine. So this is the only Cam Booser experience I have was Friday night, fifth grade play at my daughter's elementary school. We have some people over afterwards. Everyone wants to have the Duke game Duke St. John's obviously we're in St. John's country. St. John's is America's team anyone playing Duke is America's team St. John's is winning. We throw it on. So it's on in the background. We're talking. They're socializing. I can't say I'm watching it carefully. But when I looked up I was like okay I'm a little underwhelmed like I was excited for my first like a big game look at Cam Booser and he put up numbers and it was like good but I expected him to pop a little bit more than he did in that game. That's not what he does he's He's a bad player though, right? He's just like a good, he's a good bad spot. Really smart. He's in the red spots. He's cool as a cucumber. And he gets his stats. But the Caleb Wilson, you'll somebody will cut an 11 minute Caleb Wilson tape and you're going to be like, is this guy Yannis? Like that's the difference between those two. Eight cuff. So go way cuff really quick. Smooth as silk. Like just so smooth. If you were two or three inches taller, would he be in the conversation to be the number one pick in the draft because he's just the change, the change of pace, the hesitation, the variety of finishes, the self, the control, the mid-range game, the passing vision, like so smooth, not like a blowway north south athlete, but kind of like I was going to kind of shey like in the way that he just knows how to get a little bit of separation one way or another. Not as blow way as an athlete to shade, not as big as shape, but just so smooth, so under control. I can see why everybody loves him so much. Lot of Kyrie. There's a little Chris Paul in there like game manager general stuff. It's just his ball. This team, it's got a rebound. They just, it's one of those. We'll see with the size that people are worried about the defense with them and like, I don't know how many point cards that we had that were awesome where they weren't good defensively and it was fine. I'm not I'm not as worried about the defense's other stuff. Okay. I want to talk about expansion really quick because I have a bunch of intel. Layout. I'm laying out. Well, I'm interested in your take on some of this stuff. I think this is a fascinating sports story because of how the league has handled this, with the reality of it is versus what they presented to the fans and to the media. They've made it seem like what's your take as you read all this stuff? What does your take on? We'll expansion happen all that with like just knowing nothing or knowing what you've read and that's it. I mean, all right. If I if I excised all the private conversations have had to say like it seems like it's on the path to happening that Adam Silver is basically announced like barring someone for seen circumstances. We're having a Vegas team and a Seattle team. Right. So if you live in Seattle, and you read and consumed all the stuff the last week or so, you're like, this is amazing. We're getting the Sonic's back. Here we go. That's not what's happening. And I think it's really weird how the league is handling this because there's two things going on. One is they don't have the votes and two, this is a two-part process where part one is you get the 30 owners together and they off the vote need 23 votes to proceed. And basically Silver is going, I want to see what we can get for these two teams. We've decided it's going to be Seattle and Vegas. We haven't decided we're expanding it, but let's see what kind of price we can get for each of those. And then I'll bring that back to you and we can vote on it. So the analogy would be you live on a block and two people sold their houses on your block and you're going, huh, that does went a little higher than I thought. Should we sell our house and your family goes, we don't want to move. What do we want to sell our house for? It's like, well, I'm just going to ask a realtor like what they think we could get and the realtor goes, all right, I'll ask around and see what it's worth. It's basically what Silver's doing. That's not how it's presented. And what's really interesting, not only do they not have the votes, but I think it got a little testy in the border, border governors when they were all together last week. With some people are like, why are we doing this? I'm never voting for this. This is stupid. We're not doing this. And I think what's happening really, if you want to dig deeper, is there's this new generation of owners, a little like what we had 20 years ago with Cuban and Wic Rose back, like the younger guys that were coming in. And they just kind of thought about the league differently. I think that's happening again. So you have Chism who just got the Celtics. You have Ryan Smith who just got Utah. You have Fertida and Houston who's been there for a while, but I still think he's closer to the newer generation, the old one. You have the Charlotte guys that just got the team. You have Ishti and Phoenix, you have A. Rod and Lauren and Minnesota. All of those guys intend on owning their teams for a while, right? They bought in, they want to win a title, they want to compete. If you're doing this, you're bringing two more franchises into the league. Now I have a one and 32 chance of winning the title, not one and 30, right? So now I just have two more people I have to compete against. That's one thing. I'm giving up two 30 seconds of my media share. I go from one 30 to one 30 second. And I don't really see the point of why I'm doing that. These guys are out, these guys are out rich for a reason. Why would I do this? Seems to be the prevailing theme. Now I'm talking about Dolan who's been against this from the get go. How about the guy who just bought Portland, Dundin? Why would he want a Seattle expansion team two hours away? He's not voting for this. How about rich competitive dudes like Balmer? What does Balmer want more teams in the league for? What does he care about $500 million? If we sell for $8 billion each, everyone gets a check for $500 million. I have more on that in a second too. What does he care? He just wants to win the title. He's making his odds worse. You take this media money away. And then there's wild card. Joe size is another one. He doesn't need money. Walter just bought the Lakers. I have no idea what Vivek's doing ever and Duman and Dawa, who knows? So I just listed that's one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen owners that either I know they're against it or they're probably not. So that's one thing. The other thing is in the hypothetical fairytale world where they could get $8 billion a team. Do you know what fucking hard that is to get $8 billion? We'd have to write an $8 billion check for a team. And people point to the Lakers went for $10 billion. They didn't really go for $10 billion. It was like $4.7 because the guy already owned a big chunk of the team. He definitely got outside investor money to help him out with it. I don't know if he had to pay for it all at once. Same thing for Chisholm. He was able to get the metal family from India to throwing a billion dollars. They inherited all this debt. Like he basically scraped it together. Minnesota took them four years just to pay what 1.7 billion. Something like that. Utah paid 1.4. I don't think they have any chance of getting $8 billion. The more people I talk to and the more people I look at it. And I think Adam is floating it out. Like that's the number. Who's paying that? And why would you pay $8 billion for a team in Seattle? So, A, I don't think they have the money. I don't think they have the money lined up. I don't think there are groups out there. B, I don't think the owners are going to necessarily vote for it. Even if they do get $8 billion a team. And if it's like five to six, they're definitely not voting for it. And I don't really understand the point of any of this. Why not just be transparent and say, Hey, we're just curious to see what we get for these expansion teams. This doesn't mean we're going to have expansion. Instead, you've completely led this porcieto people on who now think they're getting a team. And I don't know if that's true. So that's my, that's my rent. I think that's all fair. And certainly eight to $10 billion, you have a very narrow universe of potential buyers, assuming you don't, I mean, you don't want a 20 person group coming in because that's proven problematic in other places, having so many minority owners. It's a very small universe of people. And yeah, I mean, Adam, at one point in the press conference last week was careful to say, you know, we didn't approve expansion today. We approved the exploration of expansion, but it does. I mean, they've, they, they, they, they 28, 29 kind of came out. I don't remember the exact origin of like who said that first and when that came out, but it certainly was not like rebutted by the league office when 28, 29 is like these teams starting came out. And like, that's aggressive. I mean, it's 2026 right now. Like, that's, there's a lot to do to get a team up and running. And you raise a lot like, I like to go back and listen to it because when I had it, it should be on my show a couple months ago at your house, actually, I recorded it at your house. Yeah. I asked him about this. And he was, he, he was a little non, let's say, I basically asked him, do you think they have the votes? Like, he was a pretty non-committal about it. And I just sort of put that in the back of my mind. They don't have the votes. I'm just telling you they don't. Now, whether they can swing a couple people, maybe like even I noticed, Houston, did you follow that them getting the WNB team for 300 million? Yeah. Is that a scratch your back? Now you scratch mine with a vote kind of situation because that was really weird that Houston who already lost the WNB team just took a team from Connecticut that why wouldn't that go to the Celtics when the Celtics wanted it or another city? Like, I thought that was weird. I think all this is really weird. And I don't understand why I was presented the way it was. And when my shit detector started going off, it was a Monday morning news, news leak, which is we know Monday morning is always when you put a story out trying to set the tone for the week. And they put it out in a way that made me think, this almost seems like they're testing this out to see what the reaction is. Like, they're either trying to convince the fans. This is a good idea or they're trying to convince the votes that they don't have that this is a good idea. So let's not think they have the votes. Let's flip it around. Why is it a good idea? Like is beyond like it would feel good to have the Sonic's backward, feel like writing it wrong and Vegas is Vegas. Like what is the, if financially it's murky enough that some owners will vote no based on the money, right? Like based on the expansion fee, short-term boost versus the long-term reduction in our media right share. If financially it's murky enough that some owners will know based on that version, based on that data point alone. What is the reason for this? Because I don't, I do agree with you. I don't think anyone is like clamoring for more teams. I don't, I'm not necessarily worried about talent dilution. I think you can support 32 pretty healthy NBA teams on a talent level, but I also like no one is sitting there being like, well, we just have it over abundance of talent. Like we could, we need like six more teams. No one is saying this. No, I mean, the players union, it's 30 more jobs for them, right? So they're pro. I can only think of a couple of things. One is you're establishing a value of a franchise, right? The Celtic sale established a number and then the Laker sale established an even bigger number. The Celtic number is legitimate. The Laker's number is flawed because if you're trying to buy a percentage of a team that gives you the majority, you're going to overpay for that majority to get the final result. So you say it's 10, but I don't know. If you're in a vacuum, nobody's paying 10 billion for the Lakers or just cutting and checking and handing it to somebody, they already had a piece of it. So to me, it seems like they're trying to establish the number that then becomes the number. Well, this is what we got for our expansion team. This is what our franchises are worth. If the goal is we have to write a wrong in Seattle. First of all, you never should have took the team from Seattle in the first place. And I have two save Arsonics mailbox from 2008 that I did at the time. It was criminal when it happened. I still can't believe it happened. They let it happen and they didn't rectify it for almost 20 years. You can't then say, well, we're going to add two more teams to fix the wrong we did in Seattle, especially when you have a couple teams that you have to seriously think about are they in the right markets, right? First of all, if you're going to move in a Seattle, why wouldn't the Portland guy who doesn't even have an arena yet have the option to potentially move in a Seattle? Why wouldn't some of the other franchises potentially have the option to move there? And that's like conspiracy bill wonders, like do you play this expansion thing down the road because ultimately you know it's not going to work and now you're going to relocate a franchise in the Seattle. And you want to at least cover your tracks and be like, well, we tried, we tried to expansion, we couldn't get it passed. So we want to fix this in Seattle and now you move the team. Is there not a case for Portland wanting Seattle because it's a great natural built in rivalry that has a history to it already and be, we're not all alone on an island in the Pacific Northwest. We actually have one short flight road trip per, you know, that we do every year a couple of times. - Maybe, I don't know. I think I would feel better just being the only NBA team in the Pacific Northwest, but I think for the league, it's, I mean, obviously it'd be better have a team in Portland, teams in Portland and Seattle. - And for Minnesota, don't you, don't you, isn't there a part of you that's like, well, are we the one that gets to move to the east? Like, does that, does that factor in it all for you? I mean, I don't know how they decided, I know they have, they have all these committees, right? They have expansion committee, they have TV committee, they have all these different things. So the expansion committee obviously decided Seattle and then Vegas are the two best options. I still don't know how they ended up with Vegas. I think there's some other options. I've talked about this on the pod before, but it's interesting. One, apparently in the board of governors meeting, one of the loudest guys in the room against this, which is them, I've just bought the Celtics, 'cause he just got into the league. He's not in any of the committees. And I think there was a few people in that room, and it's more than just the owners, everybody brings like, they're one or two people with them. There were a few people in the room like, I don't get it, why are we doing this? I'm not voting for this. And I think it was a little more contentious than Adam thought it was gonna be, which then makes sense why they leaked that story in the Monday morning to try to set the template for it. So listen, all I'm saying is, you better know you're gonna have a team in Seattle in the next three years, because to extend this and make it seem like it's gonna happen, and then pull the rug out from under them again, would be pretty fucked up. - That we can agree on. I mean, you even have the Seattle media at this thing to ask Adam and now there's Vegas media there too, but Vegas is like already an MBA city in a lot of ways because of some really, you know, all that stuff. But like, yeah, you can't do that to Seattle again. - We'll see what happens. - And there's also, there's also the like, I think part of the discontent was also just like, we're doing, there's just a lot of stuff going on at the same time. We have the tanking stuff, we have the clipper stuff, we have the MBA Europe stuff, we have, it's like what, like why, like this, there's a lot in this too. - There's a lot that we already have to resolve. - WNBA. Yeah, and that's, I said this two weeks ago, but like, to me, you can add two more teams until you fully figure out the tanking rules, and they tweeted out three terrible solutions on Friday, which I didn't like any of them to do. - I thought they were fine. I don't understand, I don't think they're that difficult to understand, like that was the, some of the outcry was like, these are too complicated. They're not really that complicated. They're just basically like, we're gonna flatten the odds and let some of the play in teams in. I don't, it just, it really depends what do you want to happen? - I don't want a situation where San Antonio can go one, two, and four through straight years again. And I'm not taking anything away from what happened with them, but I just don't think that's the right way to do it. I don't want a situation like Philly being able to do the processing. One of them had to built in, had some built in safe guard, at least one of the proposals had some built in safe guards where you can't pick in the top whatever, if I think. And then there was one that had two years worth of record was gonna be the basis of where you pick. - The league has real issues now. Like even you look at a team, you know, 'cause then on top of it, you had the player empowerment piece coming into this too, right? And you have, I don't know, like, who's a team that lost somebody in the last five years 'cause the guy just, Mitchell. So Mitchell just decides, I don't wanna be in Utah anymore. What are you gonna do if you're Utah? You're gonna keep 'em, he's under contract for three more years, but he doesn't wanna play there anymore, he wants to go somewhere else. - Well, he can't any Davis. - Well, Deerlox. - It goes on and on. - Right, so if you're Utah, you made a really good Mitchell trade. You haven't had any luck with the lottery. You're now, you've done pretty well in your picks, but you also didn't win the lottery, and then you see a team like San Antonio goes, one, two, four, I don't know. I just don't think any of this is a good system. I don't think if, I think if, like a Vindiana wins the lottery this year, they shouldn't then be able to win the lottery a year from now. And that's, I don't know why they haven't done little tweaks like that, like, if you're in top three, you don't get to go back. These seem like pretty simple. I don't mind flattening the odds though. If they wanted to do like the odds for the worst seven teams or flattened, then it could drop down to the next seven and then the four playing. I'd be fine with that. All right, last thing before we go, deep dive. I asked you this. Is this the weirdest NBA season we've ever had? Seems like a pretty bold statement. - It's a big question, first of all. - 'Cause I was trying to think what's been weirder than everything we've seen now for five months and every week there's another story. We just talked about this expansion story. They came out of nowhere. I'm gonna list some of the things that have happened this year. San Antonio went from 34 wins to a title favorite. Wembee argued we became the face of the league. We argued about face of the league last summer for two months. And I think Wembee has now become the guy that is the hottest ticket out of the 30 teams. It's a fair. So how to take it then Wembee coming to town? - He's must see. He's the face of the league. Bam had an 83 point game. - That happened. - The Clippers had an aspiration scandal started out 619, traded James Hardett and they're now making a playoff push. And the scandal has not been resolved. - Also, also, ignominiously, Waved Chris Paul we then retired from basketball. - And Waved Chris Paul during his farewell season. Charlotte had the best net rating for 40 games after going four and 14. Kevin Durant had a burner scandal at the All Star game and the team is up in the same sense. And we've never found out whether the scandal happened or not. Although I think we have our ideas. Jason Tatum blew out as a kill as a month in May. Their overrunner was 42 wins. They've now already won 50 and he's back and he had 32 points today. And that all happened in 10 months. The Lakers looked like an absolute mess and are now contenders and just went fifth in our scary team draft. Phoenix, Stephen Smith called it should be the worst owner in the league a year ago. That they're gonna be in the playoffs. Okay, see, became villains. We have 10 tanking teams that made Adam Silver snap. The Luca trade officially became the worst trade ever. The Wizards have trade young and Anthony Davis. - That was good to say, when is that coming up? - We have a hardcore expansion plan out of nowhere. Everyone turned on inside the NBA show that we We all love been considered family. And we might have 10 East teams that have 45 plus wins. So I just listed five, 15, 17 thanks. And I don't know what I left out. I mean, there's there's more. I mean, we'll keep going. What else did the piss? The other one seed. The entire Yannis saga from start to finish. Yannis. Is that a saga? Can we come up with another word? I don't know. I on plays now every game. That's a weird one. Yeah, you're right. New Orleans being the worst team in the league. And they're going to give Atlanta the number on pick. And now I think they're like the 10 team in the league the last 20 games. John Morant, last man standing in Memphis, except everyone already forgot he's even on the team. Like, when they issued the medical update for him, like elbow, elbow, and he's just going to be out for the season. Just like these teams are giving up with these press releases. But I have to expect them to just like accidentally send one that's just like John Morant injury to come in parentheses. We'll be out for the season and they accidentally send it. Did you see that Brian Keith, the transcript of his press conference when the reporters were asking him why he stopped playing guys? And he was just like, well, he'd reached his cap for minutes. These are like healthy 22 year old guys, just who just want to put the jazz ball. The jazz are like Kyle Filipowski, you're too good. Just first two quarters are for you. Sfima High Luke, you're so good. You can only ever play when we're already down by 30 points. Then when like here comes Fee off the bench, it's just absolutely laughable. What's going on? There's probably more than I'm just even forgetting. You mentioned James Harden, the Hornets. How about the Bulls just? Oh, yeah, the James Harden trade. We forgot about that. The Bulls just, sure, they exist. I don't know when the, how is the team this storied this now, this irrelevant? The nets took five first round picks. None of them will make an all rookie team that feels problematic. Is that true? I mean, I guess that is true. Joe, I mean, I think of Joe, and it'd been healthy the whole season, but he would do it. He might never shop. I guess we could have thrown in Jalen Brown being a viable MVP candidate. Sure. That was like 350 on outs. One of the things I was looking at was the overunders before the year and how many teams outperformed or underperformed or overunder by like 10 or more wins or losses. And it was more than you'd think. Donovan Klingin looks more and more like Gunther every day. That's a good one. Should he just start dressing like Gunther? He'd just come out like that for games. What's the Kings one? There's got to be a King. Well, the Kings were the Kings getting mad at you because you called them a train wreck before the season. I called them the Hindenburg and they took that personally. And guess what? It was even worse. Scotty Pippen doing that. Was that a real thing or was that AI? Did you see the Scotty Pippen, Mr. Pib? The soda. Yeah. Voice of Van Lathen and that. That's right. That's right. Yeah. Just throw that on the list. He's still mad about the last dance five years later. So all right. So we've established this was a super weird season. We're not even probably done. I went back over history because I'm weird and I tried to figure out if there had been a weirder season and there were three candidates. Okay. And I'll just go through them quickly or remember them pretty fast. 1995, which had the goofy three point line. It had Michael Jordan returning from baseball to just start playing basketball again in mid-March. I had to know where. Houston won the title as a road team in every series. It never had home court advantage in one series won the title. Nick Anderson missed four free throws in a row. We had the Nick Anderson game and his career was ever the same. We had David Robinson win the MVP and then had came had vengeance on him in the playoffs and destroyed him. We had Dennis Rodman taking a shoes off during the spur series. We had and completely having a breakdown. We had the Pat Riley Knicks. Miami thing. Wasn't that the year it fell apart? 95 I think so. I think I think it might be the next. No, it's 95. I can't remember. And that was also the Patrick viewing finger roll missed. And then we had eight points nine seconds is that same series. And we had Indie Orlando Eastern Conference finals, which was the best series ever that nobody has ever talked about again. That's what five games from that series and you'd be well they entertain. They won't even show it in hard but fast. Down before when the magic beat the bulls is what the all time like what's happening image of the magic carrying a horse grant like like a high school kid who just made the game winning fuel goal in the homecoming game off of carrying them off the court. That's another thing about 95 Michael Jordan came up short and then play upstairs. But it wasn't really Michael Jordan and he got his vengeance like share anyway. That's one candidate any ward number 45. Yeah, you were the wrong number. 2004 is our next candidate. Pistons win the title. They beat the Lakers. The Kobe trial happened that year, which was just surreal and bizarre and kind of terrible. We had that crazy Pistons Pacer series where it would be like three minutes left in the fourth quarter. Indiana winning 59 to 58. Remember just scores were like you couldn't even believe this was basketball. That series singled in the lead to some of the rule changes that have now kept happening for 20 years. We had Minnesota having their one good year ever with KG and all that stuff. We had your guy, Pages Diacobic, Stockovitch. There you go. The second one. It's always the act of it. It's always it. Always it. Fourth MVP that year. His son is playing pretty well for the Illinois fighting Balkans. We had Durkin Nash flaming out. We had the jailblazers officially falling apart trading Rashid Wallace who played one game for Atlanta got traded again in the Pistons. We had LeBron's first year. We had the crazy 0.4 Derek Fisher shot. Oh my God. How many teams were over 99 points a game that year? 99. Two. Two. And we had the O4 Olympics collapse with our back court of Stefan Marbury and Steve Francis among the many things that O4. So that I would say that was a pretty weird year. It's a good word. Oh, and then we had Shaq getting traded right after the year to Miami. All right. Here's our winner 1978, which featured the Kermit Washington punch of Rudy Tom Johnovich. The probably the worst moment of the last 50 years. I just before you, I wish Fandall would have offered me odds on who would win this, which year Bill would pick because I would have gone heavy on 1977, 78. I just did it. It's a great. So where does one? Karim Punch, Kent Benson and Broke his hand at Miss 20 games. Bill Walton got injured when the Blazers were I think 55 and 10 or something and really never came back. We had the Sonics go five and 17. Fire their coach and make game seven in the NBA finals in the same year with Lenny Wilkins. They lost to a 44 win Boat's team. We had a 44 and 38 Boat's team win the title. This was two years after the ABA merger. We had the Braves trying to move and they finally did. We had the Celtics falling apart officially. We had the weirdest MVP vote ever that nobody still knows who should have won the MVP. We had Doc kind of choke in a playoff series, Doc Julie Serving against Washington. And the fans kind of turned on. It's like, hey, Doc, I thought you're going to be better than this. That happened. And we only had three 50 win teams, even though it was an 82 game season. Only one team, one more than 55 games. It's a great, it's a great random year. No think that might be the weirdest, but this one's getting close. The Bayon 83 point game. I think we're moving the ceiling for this season. I don't know. So what's your take? Which one out of those four? What was the one that jumped out to you? 95 is a pretty fun year. I might be partial to that one because that's I'm 17 in that year. And so it's just right in the heart of your becoming the sports fan that you're going to be. Right in next country. So I'm living yet the mid 90s. Next thing. All my friends are going crazy about that. That was the Jordan thing. I mean, people who were not alive and or engaged in sports, then just don't have any idea how wild it was that one morning we woke up at six in the morning and the radio on the way to practice before school was like, could Michael Jordan's retiring from basketball? There's like, it was the craziest thing that had ever happened. And then he played baseball and then he came back and he had a double nickel and pet the past to build winning didn't all that stuff. That was when you when you talked about knowing here in the news that he retired, that was one thing here in the news that he was coming back. I still think might be the single most exciting news announcement because we didn't have hoopside back then. We didn't have like social media and rumors and whatever. It was just all the sudden there were rumors he was practicing with them and everybody, he was kind of word of mouth. Maybe you had a sports radio station, you're a hometown. Maybe you knew a guy who knew a guy. It was like, Jordan's supposedly he practiced with the boat and then all of a sudden he was back and we were like, this is amazing. Michael Jordan is back. I'd given up on this and that became the most fun two months at a nowhere in this weird season. It was great. I'm kind of hurt. I'm just a little, I'm a little bit putt by the way, I'm, you know what I'm just thrilled that you included in your night. 1995 description. The three seasons they move the three point line in are like a wild three seasons. If you go on basketball reference and search, like the best three point seasons of all time percentage wise, a bundle of them from like Steve Kerr and Glenn Rice are in those three years. And people like don't, people just lists like, oh, Steve Kerr had the greatest single season ever. Glenn Rice had the guy and they don't even mention that the three point line was like a two feet closer for his three year window. It was like a massive thing. Or whatever it was, I can't remember exactly how much. Steve Kerr shot 52.4% from three. And then left strength was right behind him at 51.4. It's such a weird thing that they just did this for three years. And we're like, no, not good. Just move back. I don't even really remember the reasons that I don't know whether they thought the paint was getting too clogged or something. And it didn't make sense as it was happening. And it was kind of awful. But you really see in that 95 that magic Pacers series, you really feel the three point line that came because for Reggie Miller, it was 21 footers. You know, see if the chase them everywhere. All right. So we think I'm going to go with 78. I think I got to be honest. I think I think 26 is really close. We're like two more weird things away now. But what if what if the playoffs is all chalk? What if we get at the end of this? And it's like Oklahoma City and San Antonio and just like crazy seven game blood bath in the Western Conference finals. And then the winner beats the Celtics or something in the finals. And it just ends up being chalky in the playoffs. Is that does that take away from the weirdness factor at all? All right. I'm going to flip it back on you. You've watched this whole season. Is there any chance to playoffs are going to be normal? Any no no. There's no chance. Even if no chance we're going to normal playoffs. Even if we end up at a normal destination, the journey is going to be like we drove off the road and the car went into the pond like in the office when the GPS just directs Michael Scott into the lake. It's like it's going to be it's going to be crazy. Even like these plans like Charlotte just not making the playoffs would be insane to me. They've had the number one net rating for half the year. And they're really a path now for them not to make the playoffs. Did you mention that the hawks just went 14 and one like the actual 2026 Atlanta hawks was that even in the weirdness description like they didn't just go on like a six game winning streak. They went 14 and one in a 15 game span. And honestly should have been. Yeah. I mean, well, there's one to seven games left. I was going to say if the season was like 90 games, I feel like they could catch Cleveland. They could just keep going. Yeah. And then the Lakers thing on top of it. Like if you're talking about ways the playoffs could get weird, it could clearly be a one eight or two seven upset. I'm like, if I gave you odds, yes, there'll be a one eight to seven upset versus no, there won't. Probably like, I don't even know what the odds would be. But I think that's almost like a 50 50 bet for me. I'm still would go no. I mean, who is who is your upset threat Charlotte? I'm going to try it in. Right. But I'm saying like who, but who's going to beat Detroit? I think Boston would be a possible upset too. At two. I'm prepared for that. That's the thing. I'm prepared for anything. Who knows? Who's beating Miami's not beating any of those teams or land does not fill it out. What if what if Philly's the seven seed? You're right. The odds that you're right. No, the odds are we won't get a two seven or one eight upset. But it's way more in play than it's ever been Philly. I just I just need I need my my I just need time. I can't this is what I said to Rahim Rahim was all excited about their future odds. And I was like, look, and Bied would have to play seven times in two weeks. And I don't think he can do it. Right. Just fundamentally that's probably not happening. But did you see Paul George yesterday? I did. He looked great. They're and they're already doing the spin. Like, you know, maybe this is a blessing in disguise that he missed 25 games because of a band substance and we plummeted down the standings because into the play and because now he's fresh. Unbelievable. Tyres Max Tyres Maxi is like, this is cool. I just had to play 40 minutes like every single game until I got hurt. I finally got hurt because that was on a record pace for guards playing play minutes. Yeah. I would not want to see them in the two seven. There's a bunch of teams that'd rather see I also like Charlotte as a one eight is not ideal. I just bet this is why this is one of my favorite ideas that I just wish they would adopt one eight. I think you get five home games. I was against this. The teams that would get less revenue for their home playoff games. Two, two, three. I know the one seed should be worth something. Look, if you can't, if you can't and I actually went through this, I had a meeting with some league officials about a bunch of different things. Oh, look how fancy you are. And I asked about I asked about like, why can't we just let the one seed pick its opponent out of the play? And so it's logistics and arena dates. And if you let that happen, then you don't know any of the matchups. All right. Those seem to be intractable problems. We need to set the matchups in the TV schedule. Then give me something. If I've slogged through this 82 game, you know, journey and I'm the number one team, like, I got to get something. I don't I don't I what I shouldn't get is like, Oh, fuck the hornets are eight and I got to deal with this in the first round. And I might be down three, two going to a game six with a call. And if you can losing his mind, then again, if you can't beat the hornets, I guess you know, deserve to win the championship. Two, seven Boston, Philly, come on. Boston Philly is always such a great time. Great rivalry, Amstrak chord or a lot of history. That's a great time. I just think with the three point shooting and the variance of these games, I'm scared every series no matter who I'm playing at this point, except Orlando, except Orlando, who gave up 31 straight points. And by the time people listen to this, might have a new coach who knows it could be here's our new coach, Penny Hardaway. I don't know where. All right. Anything else before we go? I can't remember what else we were supposed to talk about. I'm going to film about the meds. Oh, I know what I want to talk to you about really quick. ABS. ABS. Do you watch any baseball this weekend? Yeah, I did. I watched the meds. The challenge. It's called ABS. Oh, that. Yeah. It's so fast. It's like this boba shit did a bad one today. And I thought he was actually going to be ready tapped it. And it was like, Nope. Wrong boba shit. I love it. Most exciting ad we've, I think we've ever had from it. Because first of all, it was half of my text threads all weekend. And I watched every Red Sox game. And the Red Sox fucked up their two ABS's early in the second game. You get to you get to right. That's it. Fucked them up early. We go into the later parts of the game. We have the worst empire of all time behind the plate. And he just keeps messing up, but we have no more challenges left. And it was all my texts for like three hours. So the next we're in hell. The season opener, they're very first ABS of the season flipped. It was a three to count flipped a walk to a strikeout. It was called a ball. The match challenged it. And it became a strikeout. That's like I was like, great, great times. That's awesome. We had the opposite. We get the inning ending strikeout. Guide does this reverse. It's like, oh my God. You know, next pitch, same thing. Reverse again. Now it's like, oh my God. We're going to lose and then he got a strikeout. But it was like, it was this added drama. I wasn't expecting. I love that the batters can just do it without asking anybody. Just like I fucked that. I'm just in my own head and like, oh, I'm sorry. I screwed the whole team. By the way, you would be, you're the perfect guy to ask about this. Here are some things that happened in the first met the met's home opener. I don't know if you saw any of this. The singer of the national anthem plays. This is a real thing. Plays George Washington currently in Hamilton. He is a Tony award winning actor playing the first president of the United States in Hamilton. Forgot the words to the national anthem in the middle of singing. It's a home opener. Oh, no. And just like, just put together two verses that don't go together. Then later in the game, the best won the game. But later in the game, Frank Trevin. He's just saying he put there was like a pause, whereas like he's been silent for two, like a beat too long. And then the wrong lyrics came that didn't match the lyrics. They came. They were actual lyrics from the Stars Bangle banner, but they were just not the ones that he was supposed to say at that moment. And then later in the game, in right field, two birds crashed into each other and one of them died and Carson Benjett, like at a towel and pick up the bird and like walk it off the field. They just like, would they crash going for a fly ball? No one. I did not see video of the birds colliding, but it was not a Randy Johnson and Dave Winfield situation. Oh my god. Rua ball into the birds, like apparently just head on. So is that a good sign or a bad sign? I don't want to say I don't want to. One the game, the anthem thing is kind of funny. And I just don't know what to make of any of it. It was a great weekend for sports. And I was sick for a little bit of it. And it was just an embarrassment or riches to be able to bats around and watch all kinds of stuff. So I just think socks are one and two or two and one. Where are we? One and two, two, two, uh, close losses. And uh, on a 25 man roster, they have five holes already. So feeling good. - Great. - Feeling good. Thought there were gonna be a little more so. Did you see Project Hail Marriott? - No, but apparently the directors are massive Clippers fans. And so I kinda wanna watch it, but is it, have you seen it? I mean, I love Gosling. I'll watch Gosling. - Can't wait to see it. - Okay. Have you seen Eddie and the Cruisers? - I have not. - That's gonna be the rewatchables after we do LA Confidential tomorrow. The next one after is Eddie and the Cruisers. 'Cause we've been pushing for it to come back on streaming for five years. It finally came back. It's all over the place. And after CR Month, we felt like we'd earned, like it's the end of the dinner when you give the chocolates to your customers. This is gonna be the chocolate. - Well, I was gonna say, LA Confidential is so heavy. Like Russell Crowe's performance by itself stresses me out. Only breaks the chair. It's so stressed out the entire time that I need, I need to like have a cigarette effort. New Chris Ryan character and the LA Confidential rewatchables. - Okay. - It's Sham Sharanya as the LA Confidential reporter from Hushush Magazine. I didn't know if he pulled off. It was a 9.9 degree difficulty and he nailed it. So that's coming. We have that ends in love. - So anyway, LA Confidential, that's coming. Thanks to our state farm for helping us out with this little livestream on Netflix. Zach is going Tuesday morning. - Yeah. - Yeah. We'll see what happens in the weirdest NBA season. Thanks to Eduardo and Gahau and Chris, everybody else at the ringer as well. Thanks to Netflix and I will be back on this feed on Tuesday. - Must be 21 plus in president select states for Kansas in affiliation with Kansas Star Casino or 18 plus in president DC Kentucky or Wyoming. Game problem call 1-800-Gamber or 1-800-My Reset. 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