Two Reality Queens w/ Paige DeSorbo

Hey, everyone. I'm Morgan Stewart, and welcome to The Morgan Stewart Show. I'm going to be talking about pop culture, fashion, my personal life, and just a warning, I will be giving my opinions on everything. And those opinions are subject to change, okay? Now, let's get into it. Oh, my God! Wait, I can't believe you have notes. I have so many notes. We don't need notes. Are you kidding, Paige and Starbucks? We need notes. I went through everything. I know everything about you. But separately, when I asked people who, like, I was like, who should come on the pod? It was, was it not insane? Paige and Starbucks, Paige and Starbucks, Paige and Starbucks. And I was kind of like, okay, okay, let me see if I can track her down. And finally, we took it to the streets, and I was like, Paige, I'd really appreciate it if you came. And you were like, I'm there. I'm so excited to be here. I'm so excited that you're here. Before we start, I just want to say one thing, and this isn't even me blowing smoke up your ass. Tell me. It's truly not. My glam's good. When we met for the first time, you invited me to the Wrangly dinner. Yes. I just want to let you know, I was so nervous going. To that dinner, because I was, like, alone. I didn't know who else was going to be there. And you, you know when you're, like, about to meet someone that you've loved for so long, and, like, it could go, it could be not what you think it's going to be, and then you're like, wow, okay, so I, like, love that person for so long. You were so nice. I'm going to cry. And not in, like, a, yeah, I have to be nice because I invited you to my dinner. Like, in a real, normal, friend way. Okay. And it honestly, like, reinforced, like, I went home that night, and I was like, yeah, happy, pretty, successful women aren't mean to other women. Like, you know, it just, like, it kind of changed. I needed that, like, moment to be like, yeah, girls aren't always mean to each other when they like their lives. And you, like, like, reinforced that, and it was really nice. I, that was a nice, I really needed that today, so I appreciate it. I didn't sleep that well, and I've been a little on edge, so that really means so much to me, and I really take that to heart because I am, I'm like, I'm warm. Am I warm? I'm so warm. Why is it, like, I really overthink a lot of interactions because, I mean, I'm sure, like, where you are now, like, people are constantly putting things on you, or really, like, if you don't have the best experience with somebody, or you're not getting along with somebody, then they tell those people, and those people think that that's their experience. It takes one time. It takes one. It takes one time. It takes one time. To be like, she's a bitch. She's a bitch. And also, like, I had so much drama from that dinner unfold, just, like, in different areas. Oh, you would have never known. Yeah, and it was just, like, it's so nice that you had a nice interaction. No, it was so fun. Because I really am. Um, I really want everybody to do well so that people aren't focused on hating me. Do you know what I mean? Or you. That comes off. Like, it very much comes off when you meet you for the first time that, like, you, actually, the way I described it to one of my girlfriends. Oh, we talked about it? Of course. Are we sitting back? By the way, we can move. I don't know. Sorry, I don't know. By the way, you're in a skirt. A wrangly skirt. Sorry, it's just so classy. Thank you. If you come to your podcast and you're not wearing something wrangly, I take offense to that. Do I need to? Thank you. I should tell. You know what? We need to make, we need to take notes. Like, when I got the email, I'm like, okay, and let me go in my closet and see what I have wrangly. I wear this mini skirt all the time. It's so. I don't think you even still make it. No, we don't. But honestly, it is such a good fucking skirt. Oh, my God. Okay. It's a great white linen skirt. What were we saying? You were saying, oh, I love this already. You were saying, you told a friend about the attraction. I told a friend, and I said to her, my best friend from high school, because the day you stepped on our TV, we were like, that's our friend. Okay. That's our girl. We're going to follow her for the rest of our lives. Glam then. Okay. And I described it as, you're a cool girl who has cool things, and you're like, hey, look at my cool things, and look at your cool things. Yes. And like, you have fun, you do fun stuff, and I do fun stuff. Yes. And like, let's talk about the fun stuff we do. Yes. You give no jealousy. I'm not. You give no, like, and in this industry, I feel like that's very rare. I'm not jealous. I think I'm more, and this is about you, but I'm more recently, like, and I don't know how you feel about this, but I'm definitely, like, competitive. There is a fire in me that there is also a chip on my shoulder where I'm like, well, I should be further along, or I should have more. Yeah. Do you like revenge? What's revenge? Should I know? Am I a boomer? What's revenge? No, like, revenge. Oh, like, just a simple question about something. Oh, my God. It's this new show. Actually, it was a show at one point. I was like, is that on TBS? Like, what the fuck is, what the fuck is revenge? Like, does that? No, no, I, you know what's so, oh, you're going to open me up today, and this is not a big deal. I was talking about something that happened to me that has, that caused so much anxiety to me, anxiety to me for years. Like, somebody did something, like, I was talking shit about somebody to somebody who's also talking shit about somebody before an interview. Okay. That person went and told the other person, but this was, like, a harmless 30-second conversation. Like, it didn't need to be repeated, and instead of owning it, I mumbled through this person confronting me, who confronted me in a very calm manner. Okay. And, and I was like, blah, blah, blah, bullshitted for an hour, instead of just being like, I said this. I didn't really mean anything. I didn't really mean anything by it. I was just trying to make conversation. So, this person totally fucked me over, and after I saw her again, I was so, like, nice to her, and didn't, and I was like, what is wrong with me that I couldn't have just said, I don't fucking like you, you move in a shady way, and then try to get revenge later. There's something about me that doesn't fuck with that energy. Well, because I think you're a nice person. Yes. Like, you didn't want to say, I don't like you, because inherently that's, like, a mean thing to say. So, I don't, and I don't find anything. Any part of you mean. Thank you. Because we're both from reality TV. I want to talk about it. First of all, what was everyone being like, you're going on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills? Can I tell you something? So, that started, that, like, comes up every few months. Yeah. And I was, it was early in the day for me, so I was like, oh, that's just, like, a little rumbling. My, it, it, it had exploded. It had exploded. And it exploded throughout the day, and I was like, wait, why are we using that photo, number one? Why is, is there not a photo of me on the internet? Can you feed photos to the internet? Like, when they do that, why don't you just go to my Instagram and take the first picture? That's the first picture I posted. Every photo they use, I'm like, that was, like, season one of a show that I did 10 years ago. Yeah. Like, please get a, I don't know how that happened. So, this is what I wanted to ask you, because it's Bravo Tea. Is it possible that they, like, somebody on the Bravo side, like, leaked that to see if that was going to be a warm reception? How, how did that, there is not, nothing came, I don't know what happened. It was probably, like, a Bravo blogger that was like, well, who could it potentially be who's already a known name, and you probably got thrown in there, and they're like, oh, my God. That would be perfect. And I think it's just people that would love that, and then they, like, run with it. But I shouldn't do that show, right? I, I think being off of reality TV, I never want to say never, but I don't think I could ever go back in the capacity that Bravo films reality. Like, because it's so hardcore. It's so hardcore. And, like, obviously, I love Bravo. I love Andy. But I feel like once you're out of it, it's way harder to go back. I don't want to go back into it. This is also what I fucking hate. When somebody comes up to you, and they're like, I loved Summer House, or I loved Rich Kids at Beverly Hills, and then their friend is with them who doesn't know you, and they're like, wait, what show is that? I didn't watch. I didn't watch. Or if someone comes up to you and is like, I have no idea who you are, but my friend knows you, I'm like, that's fine to say, but, like, also not, I would never go up to someone and be like, I don't give a shit about you. Yeah. That is just the, and I'm always like, yeah, you don't need to know who I am. Like, it's not that big a deal. Right. But where's your friend? Where's your friend that does know me? I'm happy to take a picture. It is a weird thing. Why come up and say that? I think it's almost like a humbling thing. Like, they want to humble you. They want to humble you. Yeah. But my, I'm going to contradict myself because I hate that person that's like, I didn't watch that show. When you were doing Summer House. Yeah. I was working like a dog. Yeah. You were doing E. I was doing E, like 20 shows on E. So you and Summer House, like, you have now exploded. Thank you. Not to be so interview-y, but like, you've exploded. You're all over the place. I really miss the sort of Paige-Summer House situation. Like, when you were filming Summer House, first of all, Gary's your dad. Yep. Okay. Gary told you to do Summer House? Yep. And were you like, no fucking way, but you did it? So when I first got the call, one of my girlfriends called me and she was like, hey, I just interviewed for this reality show. They asked me, like, for other names. I'm going to give you your name. And I was like, I am not doing a reality show. Like, there's no way. I'm way too sensitive. I would never be able to handle it. My dad's like, just do the interview. I do the interview. I hear nothing. Two weeks before they start filming, I had gone into the Betches' office because I, like, freelance wrote for Betches. You told me that last—yes, yes, yes, yes. Hannah was there. Hannah was like, oh, I'm doing the show. So I was just like— Did you know Hannah from Bet—like, how did you know— I knew Hannah from Betches, but not very well. Like, we met, like, maybe twice. Oh, my God. But I knew she had gotten interviewed. So she was like, I'm doing Summer House. And I just thought, oh, I didn't get it, honestly. Probably better it wasn't meant for me. Oh, it's always like that. Then, like, a week later, I get a call from them. Two girls had dropped out of the show. They asked if I want to do it, and I'm like, I don't know. So I call my dad, and my dad's like, if you hate it, I'll get you out, and you never have to go back. Oh, my God, Dad. But if you do it, you'll never have to wonder. And I feel like I have the type of parents that, like, even if there was a contract and I had to be there every single week— and they'd figure out how to get me out of it if I didn't want to do it. That's, like, Italian style, right? Like, you don't fuck around. Yeah, like, I feel like part of my confidence is deep down I know I can always go home. Like, even if everything gets fucked up, I get canceled, I, like— That makes me— I lose all my money. Like, I will go right back to Albany, and I will move in with my parents. I don't care. Like, so I think that's part of, like, your fearlessness. Oh, well, I'll just try it. Because if, you know, and I realize that's, like, such a privilege. Not everyone has that relationship with their parents, but I think it shapes a lot of who I am. A hundred percent. I feel that way now. I mean, I don't even have both. And I'm like, if I did not have that foundation, and sort of like you can be traumatized and have horrific things happen to you throughout the course of your life, but if you have that foundation at home where you have two people who love you and support you unconditionally, it sets you up for success for the rest of your life. And even me, like, with my kids now, like, my mom was around for every lunch, for every dinner, for every drama, for every, you know, and I am, like, around all the time, but I'm, I hate the fucking word, but I'm, like, balancing so much. Like, even this week, I'm kind of like, today, I'm like, all right, like, I have a whole other night. Like, I got to kind of get home. My daughter's starting kindergarten next week. You know, it's just. That's a lot. It's a lot. And you want to have that sort of relationship. No, I said this, too, when I. I actually think I said. I said this to you when you did In Bed with Paige DeSorbo. I was very scared to, like, think about getting married or have a baby because I thought my whole career, they were going to be like, okay, and you're done. Like, now you're just a mom. Oh, my God, it's so fucked. And you are the only person that I'm like, no, I will be like the Morgan Stewart. Like, I'll still be, I'm still alive. A hundred. I just, like, wear a cuter kitten heel now because I'm running after kids. Exactly. That's very well said. And also, you literally said to me, you were like, sometimes I think you don't have kids. And I was like, I fucking love that. Because I'm not kidding. Like, even the photographer for my photo shoot two days ago was like, you have kids? I thought you were 22. I'm like, all right, 32, fine. But, like, I don't give that. And I think you will also not give that. It's not that I'm not proud of them, but I also, like, don't need to lead with, like, them. No, I know you're at home being like, you're the cutest ever. Like, I scoop you up, put you in my bed. But I, like. If you met Ro, first of all, okay, good segue because I have lots of things to talk about. I, we did, obviously, your whole chart. Do you know your chart? I've done. I've done astrology readings, yeah. I know I'm Scorpio. Sun? Yep. Aries, moon. Oh, am I Aries, moon? Okay. Oh, my God. Is that wrong? What are you? Did you, what birthday did you do? On the internet, it says November 6th. But I'm really, I'm November 4th. So, that's. What the fuck are we going to do? I know mine. I'm a Scorpio. Okay. And then my rising is a Aquarius. Okay. And then I'm a Pisces. Yeah. Well, Pisces, moon is why you're so sensitive. Okay. Because that's how you feel. But what I found interesting, because we obviously did Hannah's. I don't know why, but we just did. Hannah is, her rising's in Scorpio. Yeah. So, your sun is Scorpio, her rising. And my best friend from the seventh grade is Virgo sun, and I'm Virgo rising. So, if you have the sun and rising, like, you are soul-connected people. Mm-hmm. No, I feel soul-connected to her. Okay, Summer House. So, you did Summer House. Yeah. You get, like, tell me through about that whole, like, how many seasons did you do? Seven. I know everyone's going to kill. Okay. I did seven. Honestly, here's the thing I'll say about Summer House. It was one of the best experiences. Like, it was so fun. Obviously, there were times where I'm like, what the hell am I doing? But now being out of it two years, and look, not that I'm close to everyone I've ever filmed with, but doing reality. It's a reality show, and I'm sure you can relate to this. No matter what happens, I will have the weirdest, most unique, niche connection to these people. And, like, that's just, like, never going away. Ever. Ever. Because no one can relate. Even though you watch it on TV, it is so vastly different filming it. Yes. So, like, when people get annoyed with Summer House, because sometimes I think they think, oh, relationships move really fast, or, oh, they're not really best friends. But, you know, it's like, no, but you're in this, like, incubator. So, everything does move faster. Your relationships get so deep so quickly, I feel like. Also, Summer House was all-encompassing because you had to literally live there. So, what do you mean sleeping there and waking up there? Was that not fucking gnarly? Yeah, it was crazy. Because then, like, my first year, you really have to get used to it. And I would go home during the week, and I would wake up in the middle of the night, look in the corner of my room to, like, make sure there wasn't a camera there. And then after time, you're like, oh, my God. And you're like, you don't care. You don't care. But, like, somebody's watching that camera at all times. Like, you're changing. Like, eventually, you just, like, can't. Someone's watching it at all times in the garage. That would freak me the fuck out. Like, and they move, too. So, like, they can control them. So, like, if you're in the room, and you walk from one side to the other, you see it move and, like, follow you. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's true. It's really the Truman Show. So, like, if you are, like, naked, you're just naked. And they're just not using that. Or were you in the, like, were you going in the bathroom? Summer House does, like, a quick clip of a nude body changing. So, we would go in the closet. Right. Or, like, in the bathroom and change. But, like, would you ever forget? Like, I feel like I would forget. Sometimes, like, when you're, like, rushing, I would, like, take my top off and, like, turn away from the camera. Yeah, of course. But other than that, no. Like, and they didn't come into the bathroom. There's no cameras in the bathroom. I would fucking hope. Unless you're in there with more than one person, then they can come in. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Are you serious? Okay, so Hannah did how many seasons with you? Hannah did three seasons with me. Okay, because as I've been talking about you all week, I saw literally the first clip of Hannah I've ever seen on Summer House. Like, you're all over TikTok. I've seen a million. This was the first time when I saw her and Amanda fighting. It came up on my TikTok randomly from, like, a hundred years ago. So, you guys became very close on the show. We became very close on the show. Our third season was COVID. It was 2020. We should have never filmed that season. I don't know why we ever filmed that season. How did you even manage that? Because you were in the bathroom. Because you were in the house. Well, typically, we would go in, like, the weekend before 4th of July, and we couldn't. So, we waited until August. We had to, like, do all the protocol, whatever, and then we were in the house. We were only supposed to be in the house for, like, four weeks, but someone had a false positive. So, we had to shut down production for a full, like, week and a half. So, we're in there not filming, but the cameras are still on, but they weren't, like, recording or, like, filming, but they were, like, still watching us to see if anything was happening, and then we picked back up that two weeks later. So, we were there for, like, six weeks. So, no one realizes we were going crazy. Like, we couldn't leave the house. We couldn't go into the kitchen. You had to text someone, like, I'm going into the kitchen. We couldn't be around each other. No, I'm not getting anxiety. Like, I, like, have to move, okay? And me and Hannah were, they put us in the basement. They were like, we don't have enough rooms. You two to the basement. Oh, my God. It was a gym that they put a bed in. So, it smelled. No. It smelled like rubber. The floor was rubber. There was a sauna next to us. Like, it was awful. And then that was the season Hannah got fired. And it was the worst for me because she was really, like, such my security blanket. Oh, my God. So, then I went back the next season, and I was like, this isn't for me anymore. I was just like, this is not funny. Like, no one's laughing at my jokes. Like, no one gets my jokes. No one gets my jokes. And then I, like, powered through for, like, four more seasons. Four more. You're literally, I thought we were literally, like. But then we started Giggly Squad. Well, that's what I wanted to do. Like, how did we get to Giggly Squad? First of all, I love that you were like, four more seasons. That's the Scorpio thing. Like, I'm just going to keep fucking going. I'm loyal. Well, I love revenge. So, I was like, you fired my friend. I have to stay here. I have to stay. And I have to. So, if somebody wrongs you, are you out for them? Oh, yeah. Oh, I'm, I have revenge still on people from 10 years ago. So, like, do you actually want to see them, like, suffer? Yeah. Okay. No, I want what you, whatever you want for your life, I want you to not get it. Like, that's my type of revenge. And I want whatever you said I couldn't do, I want to do it 10 times. That's very Scorpio. That, like, it freaks you out. Are you confrontational, like, verbally? If you have to be? If I have to be. If someone fucks you over, are you getting in their face? Yes. You are. Oh, yeah. So, if a girl's, like, nasty to you, you're like, no. It's more, like, in my 20s. In my 20s, yes. Yeah, of course. But, like, now, if a girl is rude to me, I'm kind of, like, par for the course. Like, okay, I get it. I would be jealous, like, totally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But if someone's, like, rude to my friend, then I can't. Like, and especially Hannah, because she's so not confrontational. Like, she'll cry before she yells. And I'm like, come on. You got to stand up for her. I'm like, stick the knife in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? So, I feel like part of me staying on Summer House was also partly of, like, you kicked my friend off, and I'm going to stay friends with her. And people were, like, I think a little confused that I was staying friends with her. And I was like, well, I'm going to kick her while she's down. Was she really upset to go? She was really upset. She was really blindsided. I would feel the same way, to be honest with you. But we started Giggly Squad right before we went into the house. Like, we started Giggly Squad in, like, May of 2020. Oh, what? Just on Instagram Live. Oh, my God. Because our show was airing. Like, our last season was airing. We were in COVID. When you were in the basement. Yeah. Like, we were about to go film that. We were about to go film in the basement. But, like, the previous season was airing. So, we would get on Instagram Live. We'd talk about the show. And then we just started doing, like, random stuff. So, when we were about to go in and film the show, our agents were like, when you get out, we can't do Instagram Live anymore. But, like, let's make this a podcast. Do you know that the first time I ever had a panic attack was in Denver, Colorado? We were about to do it. We were about to do a Giggly Squad show. What happened? Walk me through the panic. So, I don't do well in. Look, you can't, like, change my elements. My body's very sensitive. Same. Like, I can't just, like, go on vacation and then be, like, ready. I need a day. Like, two days. I'm like, let me settle in. Like, I can't just, like, I can't. Do you want to know why? Because I think most of our lives, people expect us to be performing. Say something funny. Correct. Like, be the entertainment at dinner. I can't always perform. No. So, like, I need a minute when I get on vacation. What were we talking about? No, I honestly, I don't even know, and I don't care because I want to go back to vacation because the acne post-plain, right? I need two days to sit. I need to be gorgeous. I need, I went to Italy this summer. We crawled. We were at Conca di Sconga or whatever the fuck. Yes, yes. Like, oh, two days apart. And I was like, fuck, that's so annoying. That could have been a live show. And literally, the second, the first time I was in Portofino, when you say your body is sensitive, this was me. It just went down. No, I couldn't leave the hotel room. I was like, I cannot move my body. I got a stomach virus for five days. I go, how did I get this? The guy who brought me room service, obviously there's no HIPAA in Italy. No, of course. He goes, oh, two kids floor down. They wiped out the whole first floor. I go, what? No. He goes, yeah, they came from Australia. They have a stomach bug. I mean, I thought I was dying. I was in the room, in the hotel room. My boyfriend's in there. My parents are in the room next to me on the other side. Are we throwing, is it both ends? Not to be both ends. I'm sitting on the toilet. I'm throwing up in the bidet. I literally yelled to my boyfriend. I go, you got to get my mom. Like, you got, it's 4 a.m. I'm like, I'm going down. Like, I don't, this might be the last time you guys see me. That pain. There's nothing like it. It was. It was an out-of-body experience. And you're in a hotel room. The stomach bug. We were talking about, oh, panic. Oh, so I. This is good for my ADD podcasting. So I get to Denver. We're about to do a Giggly Squad live show. I don't do well with elevation. So I was like, oh, let me get an IV. No. When I land of just like fluid so I don't get like lightheaded and whatever. I get the IV. We get to the show. We're in the green room. And I'm just like, guys, I'm having a panic attack. Like, I start hysterically crying. I'm sweating. I'm almost like, I'm almost like we have to cancel the show. My makeup artist who ran. Did you travel her there? No, but you used a local. No, I knew her randomly. And she was like, oh, I'm going to be in Denver. Let me do your makeup. You have the glam gods on your fucking side in a way that I've never seen. She goes, my best friend is in the crowd. I know for a fact she has a beta blocker on her. Let me go get it. She goes back, gets me a beta blocker. That was my first introduction to beta blockers. I take that. I do the show from there on out. Every show I did, I had to take a beta. I've never taken one. Do you get anxious, Paige? Like when you public speak, though. Talking to you right now, I go in and out of being anxious. Really? Oh, get them. No, I, what is it going to do? Am I going to start to like slur? It does nothing. Like, I'm someone that I think, I can't take Xanax. Do you take Xanax? I don't take anything unless the turbulence is crazy. Okay, I can't take Xanax. I don't know. For whatever reason. I'll fall asleep. I think I, it does the opposite to me. Like, I take a Xanax and I'm like, oh my God. Like, we're freaking out. Like, I call my mom one time. I'm like, it's not good over here. Like, you got to come over. A beta blocker is for people with high blood pressure. So, it does nothing to your brain. It literally just lowers your heart rate a little. So, you stop sweating. Like, my hands would shake really bad. My feet would go numb. You feel none of that. But yet, your brain is still like the same. The same. The sensory, like, the senses of, like, doing things like, like, the time check. Like, you are so lucky because Giggly Squad, like, you obviously have Hannah. So, you guys can just, like, bullshit and talk about whatever. No, I could never do that. Like, you and I, like, I'm like, oh, we can just talk about, we can talk about this mic for two fucking hours. Right. But having, I've really had to sit. It's also, I say this a lot, but, like, I've had to adjust. It is an hour. Yep. Of talking to somebody who I, everyone I want to talk to, but it's still, the pressure is on me to keep things going. Totally. And I am a very ADD, relaxed, in and out person. Like, I want to go into weird topics. So, to keep it streamlined, I don't even remember why I'm talking about this with you right now. No, it's hard to have a podcast the way you do it. It is. Like, I feel like mine's way easier because if I run out of things to say, I'm like, Hannah, tell them a story. Yeah, or Hannah, let's talk about the tweezers you should buy. Or, like, just, like, random stuff where, like, that's why when I started, I was like, I don't want this to be a promotional tour. Right. I want this to just be people that want to talk about whatever. Like, if we want to talk about public speaking. Yeah. Do you feel like you've gotten better at public speaking? Yeah. I feel way less, well, I never used to get anxious for it before. Okay. So, when I started getting nervous for it, I got, like, mad at myself. Was it the crowd? Was it a lot of people? You know what I think it was? I just finished Summer House. I knew that I probably wasn't going back the next year. And my whole body was just, like, in fight or flight. Yes. For, like, it had been in fight or flight for, like, that past six months. So, I feel like right when I got out of Summer House. We started the tour immediately. And we were, like, a week on the tour. And then I had my, like, I think my body just got so overloaded. Because filming Summer House, and this is one thing I will say. Because I filmed other shows for Bravo, filming Summer House is so hard. I'm sure. Because it's, you get there on Friday and then that's it. You're filmed for the next 72 hours. I cannot imagine that. Plus, during the week, there's, like, two or three days that you might possibly film. Where, like, when I filmed Southern Charm, they would go film and then go home. And I would be, like. Did you only film Southern Charm because of that? Like, you were just. Okay, got it. Okay. Yes. But then, like, we did a spin-off. We did Winter House where we were there for two weeks straight. That was, that was crazy. My body was shutting down. Did you have, like, a psychologist on set? Did they ever have anybody? Or it was just the producers that you were talking to? There is a psychologist on set, but only for the reunions. Did you have a favorite producer on Summer House? Of course. It comes to my Thanksgiving every year. A hundred percent. You have to. Do you want to know something crazy? I actually don't think I've ever said this because. Clip it, bitches. Clip it. We, like, always thought we would get in trouble. When I got casted for Summer House, I worked at ABC News. I know you wore a blue velvet suit to the interview. Yes, I did. Thank you. This guy, he was a producer at the, he did, like, documentaries and stuff, whatever. So, when I got the. I got the call for Summer House, he was my first call. I was like, what do you think about this? You've done reality TV before. Oh, wow. And he was like, you really got to sit and think about it. Like, what's your end goal? Blah, blah, blah. So, when I decide to do it, I tell them, like, okay, I'll do it. I sign my contract. Like, a couple days later, he calls me and he goes, I just got casted on Summer House to be a producer. And I was like, oh. But that, do you understand the chances of that? I know. What the fuck are the chances of that? So, I feel like you're like, I mean, it's just, it is. It's fate. Like, the way, did you ever expect to be in this position? You did. Yeah. We always know. We know, right? Like, I think for my entire life on my birthday, like, starting at five years old, I would wish, like, I want to be famous and, like, really rich and I want to be on TV. I just, like, when you're a girl that knows it, you just know it and it happens. Like, it's not delusional. Like, I really truly believe if you know you're not meant to be like other people and you are meant for greatness, like, you have that in you. I would sit in. I would sit in school. Yeah. And, like, look around the classroom and be like, yeah, you guys will need this. I won't need this. I won't need this. No, and I literally, even worse, I'd be like, loser, loser. I'm like, I don't need to take chemistry. Literally. I won't need it in podcasting. But also, like, it's so, you have to think about, like, your career for me, and I want to know how it feels for you, like, Summer House, doing all of that, and then transitioning into Giggly Squad, and then leaving reality TV at the right time. Like, it has all lined up so beautifully for you. Would you agree with that? I agree. And do you not feel like it's just been a straight trajectory upwards? Yeah. Where that is the only thing for me where I'm sometimes like, I have not had that experience. Like, I had Rich Kids. It was successful. Yeah. I don't think we were meant to feel how successful it really was. Like, now people are like, I, Rich Kids was. How many seasons was it? Four seasons. Okay. Filmed over two years. We were like. Oh, wow. Yeah, like, it was a quick blip, and it was always like, well, are we picking it up? Are we, we never realized. Wait, why didn't they do more? They should, it was the wrong management. It was just the wrong management. It was the wrong decision. Like, we should have gone on, but I think they felt like with the wedding, it was concluded, and it was just sort of like, there's nowhere else to go. The aftermath was way better. The aftermath was way fucking better, and like, Roxy could have come back. So many people could have had different things, like, go on. Would you do Beverly Hills Housewives? I think if they, I'm like what you said earlier, really stuck out when you said never say never. Like, I'm a big believer. I don't think I'm, I've come this far to do that show. No shade to that show, but the cast as it's currently, where would I fit? Yeah. We are in totally separate. We are in totally separate places. Like, if they would have, if they would do, I've never said this out loud, if they were to do, if they were like, if they got everyone on board to do Rich Kids or Real Housewives of Beverly Hills and it was us. Done. I mean, that would be crazy. They could, they rebooted New York. They could, if they rebooted Beverly Hills, that could happen. That could happen, but I'm like you, I'm like, do I want to, like, what am, why am I doing all of it? Because here's the thing. Like, I give Stassi so much credit. I, I have so many things I want to say about that. Like, so much credit. Yeah, I give her, I mean, she had to really have sat down and think about it because I would have, if someone would have asked me, would she go back on reality TV, I probably would have said no, but, so like seeing her go back on TV, I'm like, oh, could I do reality TV again? But I don't think I could do it in that capacity. But also to be fair and transparent, you don't need to. Like, if I went on Beverly Hills Housewives, like going into the trajectory conversation, it's like, I did Rich Kids. I did, you know, all the shows at E!, took a hiatus because I had Yeah, what are you talking about? You didn't have an uptick. You were the face of E. Yeah, but it wasn't like, I guess, it just, it doesn't feel like, it's sort of like the, I don't know. It just feels like anyone who's a fan of you doesn't think that. I appreciate that. Like all my girlfriends, everyone thinks you are like the coolest, most successful, you've had the dream career. I appreciate that. And I guess, I guess now coming back into it and doing something new, I'm just sort of like. Well, now you're Victoria Beckham. I'm literally, am I Victoria Beckham? Yeah. She looks, I can't. She looks phenomenal. Like what is the deal? Like how do the arms look so cut? And I'm like, I have access to stuff and I can't figure it out. No, the two of them together, I'm like, what do you guys do at night? No, do you just like look at each other? Do you stare at each other or do they like not talk at all? Like I can't figure it out. Like I definitely think they have like sexual scheduled time. Yeah, I could see that. It doesn't feel off the cuff to me. Yeah. It feels like Thursday. It feels planned. Like it feels planned. They have everything. It's like the wine. It's the this. Because I think they both love being beautiful. Yeah. And he loves it. And I love when hot people find each other. I love when hot people fornicate. Yeah. It's like, what do you feel like Kendall and Jacob? Are you into them? I think it's good for the planet. Like I really, I think it's bringing us together. Like when Dumois posts photos of them and I'm like, please don't end. Please don't end. Please don't end. Like I need to see more of it because the fact that they are just equally as hot as one another and then they both get to see each other naked and be excited about that and then do more than see each other naked, my head spins around. Yeah. Like how are we just doing that? It's crazy. It's locked in. It's locked in. I haven't seen a hot guy in four years. I haven't seen. Where are they? I'm like walking down the streets of New York City. I'm like, this is it. This is it. Well, are you doing the West Side Highway sometimes? Because I think if I do like a walkie home from dinner to my hotel, sometimes I'm like, but it's always shirtless and jobless and I don't need shirtless and jobless. No, because if you're on the West Side Highway, you're running and I don't. I don't want running. I'm not dating someone who's running. Are you working out? You know. You know. Tell me. Like at all? So I try and do like my 10,000 steps a day. Okay. So you're doing that around New York City. I'm doing my 10,000 steps. Sometimes will I do a Sculpt Society like on my computer? Oh, you're not even going. No, I'm not going. Oh my God. That's harder. I'm very against going. Good classic. Oh, I can't. Oh, I'm not doing a group class. No. It's, I can't do it. I just don't want to. Like I don't want to get up. I don't want to get ready. I don't want to go there. So if I have all the equipment and I'm in my pajamas, why can't I just do it in my living room? Because, so to me that takes more motivation. Like I'd rather get up, get dressed, and get out of the house and do something. Group class I can't do. It's just too famous now. Like I'm not doing that. But I like that I can pause Megan sometimes and be like, you're getting crazy. You're getting crazy. When she's just like, and lift, and pelvis. I'm like, where are all these things? It's getting too much. It's getting sucked in. And so I take a little break and then I'll do the second half. But, no. I mean, no. I should be. Like I should be. No, you look great. Is that all your hair? This is all my hair? I don't understand it. I actually just cut bangs this morning. I was going to ask you, first of all, can I tell you something? I'm so anti-bangs and you are bang girl. They look so good. I am like such an Anne Hathaway, like Dakota Johnson lover of bangs. But they need those. You are so pretty. Thank you. And your makeup is so good, I want to die. Paige and I talk about glam a lot. I talk about glam with everybody. Yeah. It's our culture. It's our culture. But I'm telling you, most people who look good in bangs need them. Okay. Okay? Do you understand? Like we could talk about bangs forever. Like Dakota, it made her look. Completely. Like she's like wispy, sexy. Like, oh, she's that voice. Like whatever we're doing. You do not need bangs. It's not a forehead proportionate thing. But for some reason, you are like, I now don't see you without bangs. Thank you. So who just, you just were like, it's bang time? I like, when it comes to my hair, I'm very like, it'll grow back. And I can't always have the same look. It's because it's good hair. Thank you. That's why. And I had a bob for so long that I like, once when I started like growing out my hair, I was like, okay, but I can't just have like straight long hair. Like I need something. So then I like started cutting bangs. No, it looks so good. And the other thing. Okay. About you, which I really appreciate to talk about hair. And then we'll segue. When people have dark brown hair, a lot of times they fuck with the highlights. And that's a no-no. I've never dyed it. You can never dye it. Yeah. It is the, it is nothing worse. If you are like a stunning brunette or you have a gorgeous, like dark blonde. Yeah. The like orangey highlight. Yeah. Like we can't be doing things like that. I would look ridiculous. No, you look, it's just such a good. My hair color really, like what I was born with is what I was supposed to have. Yeah. A hundred percent. You've never been weird looking. We were talking about that because we, you were a child model and my assistant showed me photos of, was it limited to or limited? Yeah. And I looked at you and I was like, oh, so she's never been weird looking. She's looked the same her whole fucking life. I really, I've looked the exact same. I never had like an awkward face. But usually people who don't have an awkward face are ugly at this point and you've stayed consistently beautiful. Thank you. Like parents did a good job with that. Thank you. Who do you look like? Probably my mom, I would say the most. Like she, my mom's a hundred percent Italian. So her features are like, her eyes are dark. Her hair is dark. Tan. She's actually not that tan. Like my dad, who's only like half Italian, he's tanner than her. Wow. So like I get my skin complexion, I feel like more from him. Like her and my brother are a little bit more fair skinned than my dad and I. Where did your parents meet? My parents met like the first day of college. They were 17. No. Okay. I'm dying. And my dad kept asking my mom to go to college. And my mom kept asking my mom to drive her home. And she kept being like, I'm good, thanks. And then like the last day, he was like, this is the last time I'm asking this bitch, basically. Okay. And she said yes. And that was at? Where were they at college? In Albany. Oh, so they've been there their whole lives. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they've been together how long now? 20, what is that? My brother is 39. They've been together, or 38. They've been together almost 40 years. Yeah. Wow. And like, Morgan, it's like sickening now. Oh, okay. Tell me. Like they, I. I feel like I'm very much someone that has the opposite of daddy issues. Because I just, I'm like, okay, well, my dad will do it then. Yeah, 100%. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 100%. I'll call my dad. So, and the way my dad is to my mom, he would die without her. Yeah, of course. Like his whole life is based around what she thinks and what she says. And he's like, he doesn't do, they've never like done anything apart. I was raised very similarly. And so like when I started dating, actually. But like a year, not even a year ago, like a couple months ago, I looked at my mom and I go, how dare you not tell me about the men? Like, I was like, I feel like you didn't prepare me that men are as useless as they are. No, it is beyond the drama from the men. What kills me about the men drama and toxicity from the man is that they are so unaware of it. So unaware. They have no idea. Like I'm dealing with men all day long on different shit. And I'm like, you're fucking stupid. And you are. And it's like. I'm like a hyper. Like, I'm like, no, you're actually just wrong. If anyone in a d*** or your d*** thinks I'm a diva, I could see that. Yeah. Because there are certain times where I'm like, no, this is ridiculous. No. I'm not doing this or like. But can I tell you. Did anyone look at this? I've never heard that. Oh. I want you to know that. You know, everyone. I'm a pleasure to work with. Oh, no. Oh, that's not getting it twice. No, but you're clear, which is so important. Yeah. Yeah. I'm very direct. Were you good in school? If I. I had to really try. No. Like, naturally smart. No, I had to really try. But I was competitive. Right. So, like, I knew I wasn't really the smartest, but I hated not being the smartest. So, I, like, worked harder. What are you competitive at now? Or do you feel like you're in such a good spot where you're like, or do you want world domination? Like, what's your goals? Do I want world domination? No, I will say, I think now my definition of success is, like, slowly, slowly changing. Okay. Not that I'm married or have children yet, but I, like, if I look now to, like, the next five years, I feel like my definition of success is being able to say no to certain things. Mm-hmm. And, like, not having to think of my five-year plan. Like, I want to be able to buy a house and, like, nestle into it and, like, have a child and experience that. You'll have a girl first. And not feel stressed of, like, oh, my God, what's next in my career. Do you feel that right now? I'm starting to. I'm starting to not feel that right now. But, like, the past couple of years, yes. Because also when I was getting off of Summer House, my biggest thing was I didn't come out with anything while I was on the show. I'm missing my opportunity. So even, like, the day I started, about 25, I was like, what's my product? Yeah. Like, I'm coming out with a product, but what is it? And so it took me a couple years to really, like, think about it. Like, mull it over or whatever. And then when I was getting to the point where I was like, I don't know. I don't really want to do this anymore. I was like, but shit. I didn't come out with anything. So, which actually ended up, I feel like, working out better. So, like, I was starting Daphne as I was leaving. Okay. Daphne's great. But really, Summer House gave me, like, the fans gave me Daphne. Because they were the first ones to be like, she's so lazy. She's always in the bed. Like, we can, like, she doesn't go out. Why is she on the show? She's boring. Oh, it was like hate. I didn't realize it came from hate. I thought it was like, I knew it was like, So I was like, okay, the bed, the bed, like I'm lazy, like what should I do? And so I was like, oh, I'm coming out with pajamas, like done. How long have you had Daphne? We've been open, we were a year in June. Oh, so it's a baby. Yeah, she's a baby. Why do I feel like it was longer than that? I know, I feel like we've been around longer, but we haven't. I mean, like the year prior, I was like putting my team together and stuff, but we didn't launch till last June. Are you designing? I have a designer and we kind of like, we're texting nonstop, like pictures back and forth. Okay, and do you like it? I love it. You love it? I love it. So you're doing like, and what about the show? I almost forgot, don't worry, I didn't forget. So you have Giggly Squad, you have Daphne. We're doing a show now with Amy Poehler, you're writing a show. What, tell me about, what the fuck? Okay, so when Hannah and I started that tour where I had my panic attack was so transformational for me. Like, absolutely. As a woman. How long was that tour? We started in September and we went to, till like February. And did you guys do everything yourself? Like, did you have like a producer set the show? Like. We do it ourselves. You do everything yourself. It's me, Hannah, and a girl named Grace. And we just go off. And you just like do segments and you just like our formula. We do, it's the same show. But live, yes. That is. We have a PowerPoint. No. Can I tell you something too? Our first show, like of a tour, we haven't done it yet. We haven't done the show. I love that. Hannah will put together a PowerPoint. She'll flip through it and say, this is what we're going to talk about. Let's go out and see how it goes the first time. And then we do it. That's the only way to do it. And that's really what you, the most natural it can be. And then that ends up being the best version. And then the next show, we're in a different city. Okay, we'll do a joke that's tailored to that city that's not in the other shows. But then we get like our footing. And then you know what jokes work. Like, it's very funny. Like going to Texas. And doing like jokes compared to like New York City. Like, it's just, it's different. Like being in the South is different. What's a joke in Texas that does not work in New York City and vice versa? Like anything about abortion. By the way, obviously, right? But because we're in Texas and it's girls that are all like like-minded like us, they're laughing harder because they're like, it's crazier down here than it is in New York. Or like if you joke about abortion in New York, they're like, but you can get one. It's like cereal. Yeah, they're like, okay. Like in Texas. So there's just like certain jokes that are like, oh, that's kind of crazy. And the South is way different. I mean, the South is way different. The men are way different. Like more conservative, like obviously more conservative. Oh, yeah. And actually, the men in the South are ruder at our shows than anywhere else in the country. They're almost like annoyed they have to come with a girlfriend. Like we've had some guys that are ruder than you. A little bit. And so do you kind of tell the audience like don't bring your man if he doesn't want to be there? No, we want. We want them to bring their boyfriends because one of our segments is called Is He Trash? And so we pick a boyfriend from the crowd. We bring him up on stage. We ask him questions. And then we determine if he's trash or not. And was he trash in the South? We like, honestly, most of the people we bring up on stage are so lovely and so nice. And we feel bad like making fun of them. But like we have to. It's the show. So the majority are really good guys. There have been like maybe I could think of like two where I wanted to go up to the girlfriend and be like, get out. Get out. Oh, my God. Yeah, you're literally. This is also random and been swirling in my head, but I want to get to the show. How are you about people coming up to you on the streets asking for photos or like on airplanes? I love it. You say yes all the time. I manifested that way. You never say no. Never. If you're on an airplane and the flight attendant is like, can we get a photo and you look awful? You're like, we'll take it. Yeah. I've never said no. Same, same, same. Because you want to know why? I think early in reality TV, I was around a lot of people that were really rude to fans. I've seen people be so rude to fans to the point where I've like gone up to that. Person and been like, I'm so sorry. Like, I can't believe that person did that to you. Like people on reality shows. Yeah. Just like people I've been around when that started happening to me. I would like notice it happening to other people. And I've like had seen people be rude. So I was like, I would never. Because also. Oh, my God. When someone comes up to you, the first thing I think of is they thought about coming up to me for at least five minutes. Like, should I do it? Should I not? Should like, what would I say? And so like that alone, I'm like, I feel bad that you. Even went through that anxiety. Of course, I'm going to take a picture with you and ask you a singular question about yourself. Yes. So I. And also. It's a good way to think about it. I've like, I've wanted this life. No, you're so right. I've had like, back to what we were talking about at the very beginning. I had somebody come up to me when I was in Italy over the summer and was like, my friend loves you. I don't know who you are. Let's take a photo. And I took it. I felt kind of dirty after. That's different. Yeah. That was the one. And then I was like, I need to be more aware of like. And somebody asked me, I was having sushi on Friday when I or what day are we two days ago? Who gives a shit? And somebody, the waitress was like, I have a customer that comes all the time. She's obsessed with you. Can she take a photo with you? Could she come over? And I was like, this is the first time I've ever said no, but I have to eat food or I'm going to drop dead. I cannot take a photo. And then did she come back? No, I just sort of like, let it be so that I just want to admit that to you. I just. But I always do. But you want to know what? It takes that girl to go on the internet. And then there you go. Right into a Bravo blog. I know. Guess who I just met. I know. And you know what? And that's how. That's how it happened. But guess what? Because I put it out there first. So I'm sorry if you're the girl that was at sushi, but I just needed to eat food. You're famished. You could have passed out. By the way. That was a medical thing, actually. Sensitive babies. Okay. Show. Yeah. Amy Poehler. Like what? Transformational. Transformational. So we start this tour and Hannah is like, what's going on in your life? You're having these panic attacks. Like you need to like get back to yourself. Were they attacks? Or just attack? I had one attack. But then before. Before every show, I was like, I was just like not myself for the whole time. I get that. And thank God I really was with her because it was just like so much support from like the exact person you need it from, which is your friend who's not judging you. And so it's just amazing. So we're obviously together so much. So we just started like riffing and like doing bits back and forth. And then finally, Hannah was like, I'm going to write this down because I feel like this could be like a scripted. I'm going to write this down because I feel like this could be like a scripted show. And I was like, amazing. It's like January. Our tour is like about to be over. We get a call from Amy Poehler. She wants to meet with us. We fly out to L.A. Oh, you flew out. We fly out to L.A. We go to her office, which is like. Insane. No, just like the most magical. I don't know where we were in L.A., but you know, like when you're driving in L.A. and you're like, that looks like a dungeon. What is that random building? We opened this like big, like sliding door, sliding outside door. And it just like opened. It opened up into like these like hills and like a pool. And Amy Poehler was like up at the top of the hill. She was in a robe. She goes, I just took a shower. I'll be right down. I was like, what commune did I enter? And like, I'm staying. Yeah, I'm staying here. And so we meet with her and she was like, we would love to do something with you. And we were like, well, we like kind of have a pilot written, like we'll show it to you. And so she's like, great. And she like reads it. And she's like, yeah, we can like do something. And like, that was it. Are you so? So we were like, oh, yeah. But like, we couldn't tell anyone for so long. That is so fucking insane. So then where are we now with that? So we're working on working on it now, like writing it. OK, so you're writing. OK, so there's no like air. We don't know. No, no, no. Everything takes so long. I know. That's Hollywood. But no, we have no like time yet when we start filming. You're going to play yourself. Are you guys going to be in it? Yeah. This was a question that I wasn't going to ask. But my. My producer was like, ask. Yeah, we're playing ourselves. If I was in the show and I wasn't playing myself, like who would play me? Oh, my God. That's an amazing question. I would put you in some type of role where like you were an authority, like you were either like a boss somewhere or like. That's probably right. Yeah. Like you like maybe I like worked for you or something. I don't know where I'd put you, but you would be like an authority. OK. Like we'd be scared to. OK. Piss you off. Wow. I feel like. Is that because I'm always angry about glam? No, I think because you always like look so good. I look. Thank you. I really appreciate that. I don't want to mess up your day. Yeah, no. She got glam. Also, wait, this is the other thing. I have. I know you got Botox once. Yeah. This is so not anywhere. And you were like, I'm never doing it again. Yeah. And I just went to go get it. And then he was like, no. And I was like, you're right. I'm kind. I have so much movement and I'm kind of like I'm a little off it. Dude. I couldn't talk. I know. I think. I know. She put it here. You don't. First of all, that was the wrong place. She said she needed to balance out. I said. What? So you don't want you to. She did it one time and she did it here and it was fine. And then I went back like four months later to get like a little refresh. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I didn't know. I didn't think she was going to put it here again. I thought she was just going to do my forehead again. But she was like, no, just like balance it out again, whatever. And then like a week later, my I woke up and when I talked only this side. No, like fully pulled. What's going on? What's going on here? And like a week later, I was supposed to host the red carpet for Netflix actor awards. And I'm like, hey, I got to be on live TV. Like, what do we do? And she was like, OK, well, come in. I'll balance it out. No. Because I couldn't wait for the other side to like drop a little. So I go and she balances it out. So I go do Netflix and I can't move anything down here. So I'm trying to like smile and talk. And then finally, like. It just. Just got normal. I got it in February. I just got normal. I'd say in like May, June. Dude, it's so not. You have an experience like that. that you never want to go back. Yeah, I'm like, I love like micro-needling. The best. That changed my life. Micro-needling is, I've done every laser. I don't do like a lot of like injections. I was just doing Botox. Yeah. Micro-needling single-handedly has changed my skin. Agreed. And it just gets better and better. Yeah. I like don't ever break out anymore. No, it's insane. And like your pores get smaller, your face gets tighter. Even if you're like micro-needling under the eyes, I feel like I'm like glowing. Glowing. Yeah. And like glowing a week later, but is your downtime bad? No. Yeah. I go to a great plastic surgeon. Oh, plastic surgeon. She's amazing. Are you injecting PR, like are you doing PRP kind of? Are you doing like the blood and that? Nope. Oh, no. Should I really? Should I? Yep. Okay. I'm going to do that next. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We just finished micro-needling. And so you're in New York for a little bit now. Yeah. What are your plans for, are you just like doing Giggly Squad right now? We're doing, we do Giggly Squad twice a week. On Zoom? Well, we do Zoom usually like during the summer. And then we go back to like being in studio. Did you do it in Italy? Yeah. Hannah and I have never taken a pod off. Do you not, do we not need a break? We have never, like you know some pod, do you have a season? I don't know what I have. I don't know where we are. Like some pods do like a season. We film like, we record during Christmas. We actually had to have our podcast company say like, legally, you have to take these two weeks off. And we're like, okay, but we have stuff to say. I'm obsessed. I am obsessed with you. I'm so happy for you, but proud of you. And you should be so fucking proud of yourself. Thank you. Okay, we're going to do a quick rapid fire. Are you excited? I'm excited. We really worked hard on these. Okay. Sleep mask or blackout curtains? Blackout curtains. I can't do either. I like wake up and feel like I'm trapped. I love that. Yeah. Ballet flats or kitten heels? Oh, well, like it depends on where I'm going, but I would say a ballet flat. I hate that question. Who put it in? Okay. Bermuda shorts or micro shorts? Oh, micro shorts. Micro. I love them. But I feel like you could do Bermuda. I do. I like a Bermuda. With these shoes. Yes. But I think a micro short, I'm just like, oh, it's so cute. It's so cute. 100%. Reality TV or period peace? Period peace. Period peace. I mean. We kind of knew that was your answer from the captain. Done. We just didn't want to like assume. Yeah. Hamptons or Jersey Shore? Jersey Shore. Same. I. Same. What? Should I read it again? I know that you're, that's not, I know Jersey Shore isn't your answer. Let me just give context. Tell me. I have PTSD. I can't. I can't step foot in the Hamptons and not get flooded with every ridiculous thing I've done on TV and feel okay. Okay. Fair. So I really can't go there. You can't go there. Texting all day or don't speak to me until dinner? See, look at these thought provoking questions we do here. I would say like in between. If you don't text me before dinner, how are we going to, hello? Be obsessed with me or die? Die. Correct. But don't text me all day because, because that's annoying. It's like there's like that thing that I just posted last week or something where it's like, oh my God, people don't invite me to something nobody cares and then one person invites me somewhere and I'm like, whoa. I'm like, I'm not going. It's a lot. Like stop fucking speaking. Do you go places? Absolutely never. Never? Okay, me neither. Every time, like she just read off a bunch of stuff like that I got invited to and I'm like, why are they inviting me? I don't want to go to that at all. But then if I didn't get invited, I'd be like, well, are they fucking crazy? They should be lucky to have me. I'm not invited, but they're, don't get me. Don't get, don't know that someone else being invited and getting paid, I'm like, what? I'll eat this mic. I'll shove it in my face. Okay, overdressed or underdressed? Over. Okay, because we were like, Daphne, we didn't know where you'd go. Like going somewhere, I'd rather be like, oh my God, I'm so overdressed than oh my God, I'm so underdressed. Do you work with a stylist? Yeah. Do you like them? I love her. Are you collaborative? Oh yeah. Are you like, I fucking hate that? Yeah. It's really more like we, it's like shopping with someone. It's like getting a second opinion on the things you're already going to buy. That is kind of, I kind of am getting to the place where like logistically I need someone. I don't need to creatively have someone, but I need logistics. It's just like, hey, can you order this for me and do you think you could get it earlier than I could get it? It's like that. It's that vibe. It's like, do you think you could reach out to her and see if I could borrow that dress for this because it's not online yet? I need to be doing that more because it's ridiculous. Okay, best Bravo, show now that you, that you were allowed to be objective. That was, that was the correct English to say that. Best Bravo show right now. Yeah, that was an easier way to ask that. Real Housewives of Rhode Island. I'm not watching. You should. It's amazing. Is that the best one of the whole, or were you watching? I haven't watched, I haven't watched Bravo in so long that that was my first show back and it was like this recent. So did you watch like Mimi and Kim? Like were you watching it real? Of course. Like we didn't deserve them. I watched everything on Bravo. I watched everything on Bravo and then I got on Bravo and I couldn't watch anything. Couldn't watch it. Yeah, I get that. Okay, who would survive longer without the other one? You without Hannah or Hannah without you? Hannah without me. She's stronger. She's married. She's got someone to back her up. By the way, I forget that Hannah's married twice a week. I think about Hannah being married and me not knowing who that is twice a week. We don't even think of it. It's like me not having kids. Yeah. Like that's what you thought. Like she'll say her husband to other people and I'll be like, who is that guy? I'm like gross, Hannah. Do you hang out with them? Yeah, all the time. What's his name? Des. His name is Des. Yes. Des is so like hilariously funny but he's like really famous in Ireland. Oh, she had a famous husband? Oh, yeah. Bitch, you better go off. Yeah, he's like Jimmy Fallon. Like he's a stand-up comedian in Ireland. He's like very famous there. He's done like They're Dancing with the Stars. He's like hosted shows. I feel like when they fly to Ireland, it switches and everyone's like, Des, can I get a picture? If you're from Ireland and you live in New York City, you know who Des Bishop is. You know her husband. How did they meet? He DM'd her. It was during COVID. He had a house in the Hamptons. She was in the Hamptons. He saw she was in the Hamptons and said, let's get coffee. And then from then on, that was in June. You have a good memory. She told me about it and by September, she was like, I'm moving in with him. I'm marrying him. And that was it. That's how you know. Yep. My last thing, which you kind of answered, but like manifesting like in the next five years, it's being able to say no to things I think it's being able to say no to things and being like a little calm. Like having like a low cortisol. Oh, trust me. And like a peaceful, just like day. You're going to need it. Trust me. The second you have babies, that cortisol needs to be relaxed. It's funny that you think I'm going to have a girl first because in my gut, I think I have a boy first. Uh-uh. Yeah. Okay. Do you go to psychics a lot? Oh my God. Yeah. I stay at the psychic. Wait, can you give me yours because I feel like you have a really good one. I will get you in and he's a psychic medium. So if you have anybody that's passed in your life and it is not. I love a medium. No, he will blow your fucking mind and like you'll write down a bunch of shit that he says to you and you'll be like, I don't know. And then literally, you'll be like, everything you've said, he'll give you names. He'll mention things to you from past relatives, people that have passed on, like memories from when you were a child, like something your dad did. I need him to know. It is. I will get you set up with him. He's unbelievable. Again, I'm obsessed with you. Thank you so fucking much for coming on. We'll do this again. Okay. The Morgan Stewart Show is produced by Sirius XM and me, Morgan Stewart. Our senior producer is Jessica Cisneros. Our audio engineer is Brendan Burns. Our videographer is Kim Cohen and our video editor is Shannon Joy Rogers. Our executive producers are Cody Fisher and Adam Sachs. Sirius XM. Sirius XM Podcasts.