Tucker’s New MAGA Party, El-Sayed Wins Michigan & Perez Hilton Hospitalized | PBD Podcast #840
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The podcast episode features Antonio Sabato Jr., who reflects on his 1990s fame in acting and modeling, contrasting that era’s personal interactions with today’s phone-dominated culture. He reveals a harrowing family history, including his grandmother’s survival of Auschwitz, and stresses the importance of understanding history to navigate the future. The hosts then critique Tucker Carlson’s 10-point plan, calling it a "nothing burger" of vague adjectives without actionable policy, and debate his potential 2028 presidential run, with estimates ranging from 5% to 40%. They also explore AI’s role in future elections, highlighting risks like persuasion bots and deepfakes that could deceive voters, urging critical verification. The conversation shifts to Abdul El-Sayed’s Michigan primary win, with hosts criticizing his radical platform and ties to socialist figures, while noting his narrow victory suggests Democratic vulnerabilities. A viral debate about $20 burritos becomes a lens on affordability, with hosts arguing that dismissing young voters’ concerns is politically unwise. Finally, Sabato discusses Hollywood’s decline in masculinity, praising actors like Tom Cruise, and shares anecdotes about Steve McQueen. The episode mixes personal stories, political analysis, and cultural commentary, emphasizing authenticity and the need for practical solutions over rhetoric.
[MUSIC] >> I don't know what you're doing. >> The future looks bright. >> But David. >> And Jake is better than anything I ever saw. Right here. >> You are one of one. >> I send you right. >> I think I'm going to send this to you. [MUSIC] >> All right, lots to cover today. And we decided to bring one of the best looking guys in history. A mankind. A little bit too much. Too much looks here. Antonio Sabato Jr. here with us. Great to have you on the podcast. >> My pleasure, my honor. >> Yeah, you know, when we talked to the ladies, it's always the general hospital, right? 92 to 95, the seasons you were on. >> Yeah. >> And then from there, Calvin Klein, which was everywhere, back in the days when the Calvin Klein models meant something. At the peak of it, that's when you were in it. >> Jackson music video, if I'm not mistaken, you did something with Janet Jackson and so. >> Yeah. >> And love will never do without you. Her bridge show. >> Hey, that greatest photographer of all time. Her bridge is not with us anymore. So I had the pleasure to work with some amazing people. We didn't have the phones and all that stuff back then. It was a different. >> Just a good time. >> Just a good time with people talking to each other face to face, not through their phones or technology. It was about being human beings. And you got the job to tell you to your face. Now they send you a message. I mean, they don't even want to talk to you anymore, you know? Different times, we were humans then. You call somebody, you dial the phone. Now it's like, hey man, I'll see you later. Actually, leave me a message later. I don't even want to talk to you. >> Yeah. >> You know what I mean? Nobody has the time to do anything, but they have all the time to be negative. You understand that? And I think we appreciate it time. In the 90s, when I moved to this country in '85 from Italy, it was an honor to become an American citizen. I paid my dues. You know, my mom from Prague, my dad from Palermo who wanted to become an actor, Grand Prix, all the greatest movies, especially the Westerns. And my mom was like in Prague, you know what I mean? Living, escaping the Communist Party. And my grandmother was the only survivor of Auschwitz, because her brother and her parents were killed at Auschwitz. So my mom, I grew up in Rome not knowing this stuff as a little boy. And then eight years old, my mom says, we're going to go to Prague, and I'm going to show you and your sister a concentration camp. And I was like, what is a concentration camp? I made years old. That we're driving to Prague from Rome through the Alps, and we get to Prague. And she shows me these concentration camps that were like, they did this, they did that. I remember seeing a lamp, all right, a lamp. And the top of the lamp had the skin of the Jewish people. That the Nazis cut their skin and put it on these lamps. And I made years old, and I'm going, what is. My mom shows everything, the ovens, when they threw all my family, I found out at eight years old, what life was like before I was born. And it wasn't pretty. And so I learned all kinds of stuff as a little boy. And I suggest everybody in this country, especially the kids and teenagers, wake up and start learning about the past, because you're not going to know anything about the future. You know, because you got to learn these things. There's been awful things happening in the past. A lot. And we'll talk about some of that stuff. We'll talk about some of that stuff. But that's my family. You know what I mean, bro? Great story. When you came in, you talked about it at the car, grand pre, dad, and acting, all that stuff. We'll get into that. We got a lot of stories to get into. So let me kind of cover some of the stuff we got. Yesterday, two days ago, I had Ben Shapiro on. We're sitting there while we're about to go live. Tucker Carlson says he's announcing something that he drops his 10 point plan. A lot of people have reacted to it. We got some thoughts. We'll talk about that as well. Hello, in Michigan, Senator, he won the primary on the Democratic side. Abdul El-Sahit. This is a new guy that Vinnie's very fond of, which we'll talk about. Hassan Piker had a few things to say about Democrats. And we'll address that. Perez Hilton. You tell me there's a video I should not watch. And I'm sure you know who he is. I know what he's done. Yeah, I had him on 10 years ago when we did the podcast. I want to get your thoughts on that. What's going on, Perez Hilton. Yeah. Then there's a massive burrito debate. And I know this sounds weird. I don't know if you're following this. Yeah, yeah. Burrito debate shouldn't cost. A burrito shouldn't cost $20 says this young girl who she's like, look, I understand there's a lot of stuff going on, but $20, give me a flip and break. A bunch of guys have responded to it. And you know, we'll have a conversation about the burrito debate today because it has to do with affordability. And I think both sides need to know there's a massive audience that's thinking about that, especially right now since the jobs report came out a few minutes ago with it being what time, minus down a little over 20,000, a little bit of a surprise we'll talk about. They're not expecting that. Nobody was expecting that. No, they were expecting a little bit of a gain after last month and a month's prior. And we got some charts. We'll pull up from our own research. Perfect. So that's the minus 22,000. And then we got next in country music takes top five on the billboard charts. What do you mean countries taking top five? Well, it's it because the USAID money got out of hip hop and all the other places we were putting it. There's a lot of speculation. And we'll get into that number six. When we talk about Tucker, Trump was asked about JD Vance because a report came out that the president's going around telling people we should get behind JD. He should be it. He immediately jumped in and set some things. We'll play that clip for you. But there's an article that came out saying 2028, maybe the first AI election. So we'll talk about that. Another two stories, which is kind of interesting. One of them says five reasons more Americans are cutting off their own parents. According to psychologist. Sorry mom. Yeah, and then the other one says record number of US adults are moving in with their parents. So how are you moving in with your parents? But you're saying you're going to cut off your parents. Of course, it's a different age demo. But we'll we'll address that as well. And in WNBA, there's a rock star folks. The sky's amazing. And he plays in Europe and he wants to come to the WNBA and now they're saying they're okay with it. And Michael Porter and Lonzo Ball are doing a podcast. And they're talking about at what age they would have dominated the WNBA players. And Michael Porter tells a story of how he played against Sophie Cunningham when he was in seventh or eighth grade. And what happened to that game? Keep in mind, he's a seventh grader playing with WNBA players. And he's breaking down what happened. He's playing with girls that are older than him. We'll play that clip. And then I got two other stories that we may get into. Robin Hood is not making more money from prediction markets than they're making from their actual business model that they had. And maybe a couple stories about Hollywood. And we got Antonio's relationship with Steve McQueen. We used to go to this restaurant in Addison. It was called neighborhood services. Tom, do you remember the five basis on the wall? One was McQueen. Michael Cain. Michael Cain is another one. James Dean was another one. Sean Connery was another one. And then who was the fifth one that was on the wall? Paul Newman. Those were the five pictures on the wall. Good call. Paul Newman was on the wall. So we'll talk Hollywood a little bit as well. So with that being said, again, if you're watching this, we are, I was in Las Vegas just yesterday. We got back from Las Vegas. We did our annual convention. This is the last convention I went to with PHP. I had a great time. Congratulations to hearts, family and everybody else. And great event that they put together with Moral and Teakrin. Phenomenal as usual. But we are officially three weeks away from the wall conference. Three weeks away from the wall conference. And for those of you guys that got CO tickets. We're going to be joining us in the CO session. Alex Spire, if you don't know, he's a musk lawyer, Bezos's lawyer. Top servant and richest man in America out of top 10. He's their lawyer. He's the guy that people fear. He'll be in their talking. And then when Joe Montana and Jerry Rice end of you happens, that'll be done by Steven Asmit. We're going to have a good time. It's going to be phenomenal. So with that being said, I want you to watch this clip. And then I'll tell you more and it will get into the podcast. Go for it. A lot of some people say, Pat, if I come to the wall conference, you wouldn't be insurance industry. You're in a media business. You're in consulting. I'm in construction. I'm in dental. I'm a doctor. I'm a surgeon. If you come to the wall conference, you talk to the person to your left or your right, 100 plus industries will attend the wall conference because strategies are transferable to any industry. HR recruiting, raising money, hiring, firing, expanding in a new marketplace, marketing, storytelling, how to balance it out with your family, all of it is transferable to any other industry. So whatever industry you're part of, wall conference is for you. There you go. So if you haven't registered, go to vault 2026.com, again, vault 2026.com. Come down, bring your spouse, bring your business partner, bring your peers, don't come by yourself. Let's spend three and a half days together, network, deals, strategies, all of that. Again, go to vault 2026.com, even if it's a general ticket at a time like this, make the investment, get new strategies to take your business and your life to the next level. With that being said, let's get right into it. Talk to Carlson. There's a video, now sink is 10 point plan. And when we see this 10 point plan, I'm expecting a call out, very specific, unique, what's going to happen with it? And all of a sudden, you go through it and articles come out that the 10 points, what the 10 points are about. I mean, we can't really play the whole clip, so I think it's about an hour and a half. Let me read to you what the 10 clips are, 10 points are, and I'll read them to you one by one by one. Point number one, be fair. One set of rules for everyone, presidents, billionaires, intelligent agencies and ordinary Americans should be held, same law. Point number one was about Epstein. Number two, it's sovereign, America should make decisions based on American interest foreign governments, foreign lobbies, corporations and wealthy donors should not dictate.
Fair. That's about APAC Israel. That's what he was talking about. Number three, productive. America needs to make things again, rebuild manufacturing, agriculture, skill trades, domestic production rather than relying primarily on finance, speculation. Okay. Number four, beautiful. That's literally number four, beautiful. Make American cities and communities beautiful. Again, reduce crime, graffiti, public drug use and the key, but build places Americans are proud to live in. Okay. He's talked about that when he goes to Russia. He was amazed by the buildings and all of that. But the guy that's running it right now is a real estate guy who knows how to make things better than you because he's a real estate guy. He knows how to make properties beautiful. Next, number five, healthy. Americans should become physically and mentally healthier, improve the food supply, encourage sobriety and question American dependence on prescription. So he was kind of defending what RFK was doing and going against Anthony Fauci. So the enemy is choosing six, honest. The government should stop relying to its citizens, reduce unnecessary government secrecy and release important historical information, including the recording, surrounding JFK 9/11. Okay. That was the same thing in the previous one. Seven, optimistic. Build America around the next generation, encourage marriage, children, strong families. Tuckers are given as a civilization survive. When people believe their children have a better future ahead. Okay. Future looks bright. Optimism. I'm with it. Eight, wise. Education should teach reality rather than ideology. Teach practical skills, trade, history, and fundamental truths about human nature. All right. Nine, decent. America should behave morally, overseas, avoid unnecessary wars, acknowledge. Okay. Non-intervention is. Ten, united, protect American social cohesion. Tucker proposed a stopping immigration while America, America determines what artificial intelligence will do, American job. So he's against a lot of these data centers being built. Vinnie, when you watched it, was there anything where you were like, this is amazing. This is awesome. He's going places. And what do you think? The motive of that video of I'm dropping the 10 points and the meeting with MTG, Joe Kand, Marjorie, Taylor Green. What do you think? I thought number 11 was going to be hold hands in Sincumbaya. No, no, and I'm not with all due respect. I'm with you. Yeah. You understand what I'm saying? Like it could think about it. You see that. You see that right there. You see this dinner. This is a message. Okay. Marjorie Taylor Green, Joe Kand, Massey. And is it crazy? An hour before this, I, before this plan or anything was announced, I said, guys, who here would be the president, vice president, secretary of state, and would be secretary of defense? And I was like, you know, Tucker, probably president, Joe Kand, sec, def. No, think about it. Marjorie Taylor Green or Joe Massey, who would be the vice president? But like, when you have this major announcement and I was wondering, like, this is a nothing burger, Pat. Absolutely nothing burger, because here's the thing. I agree with some of the things on the list. What's the plan? What legislation are you proposing? Who's leading it? How are you going to pay for it? No, if you think about it, I'm like, I'm like, these are basic, all it is was basic adjectives followed by things Tucker believes. Listen, you have a bunch of people sitting at a table right now who have made money from the political world doing absolutely nothing to help their neighbor. All right? With all their money and they're looking all nice and cozy at their table, that girl lives in some other country. That personally, they travel in private jets. They don't deal with the American people. The stuff that he was talking about for most part, it was like common sense. You imagine we live in a society right now where you have to teach adults how to live? I mean, I got to teach you how to live. I got to do what this or you've, we have greatest laws in our country. Just follow the law, be a good person and leave everybody alone. These people are dictating, sitting at the head of the table over there, that dude right there who talks for this person, then he's against this person. They don't have integrity, my friend. Because if you say something, I like this color. You don't think Tucker has integrity. At the end of the day, he's owned by someone and something. I'm not owned by anybody, but God, all right? If one of brothers doesn't want to hire me because I voted for Trump, I don't want to work with you. That's why I started Gratwick, my studio that you can download, things like that. I'll find another way. Maybe I won't do the A movies, but I'll do the A movies 10 years down the line. What I'm saying, I back up what I'm saying, 100%. I don't go and apologize. These people make money on other people. When they ever help our country, when are these people ever help anyone? You think Tucker stands a chance in 2028 as a president? No. You think he will run? If it's good to sell books, if it's good for his career, I mean, these are selfish people with very big ego. Do you think you think about that cross-life? Do you feel the same way about Ben Shapiro as well? Like all of them, everyone of them. So it's not just you're not isolating Tucker. No, Democrats. Listen, I ran for office and I realized something. I was fighting for a cause. I was the first celebrity to say Trump is my guy. Then I spoke at the RNC about Jesus and everything and everybody, all my agents and everybody are blackly. We don't want to represent you. You're sick to us. All right. Fine. I'll create my own life. I'll go and work in construction. I'll move out of the country. Whatever I got to do to survive for me and my kids. Okay. I got balls. So I'll back it up. But you guys are over there sitting down over there like all these people left and right. They don't do anything for our country. Our country is going into that trash can. We have the most unhealthy people in our country. We have the fattest people in our country. We have the worst food in our country. People don't exercise anymore. They talk about exercising, but now they're on peptides, drugs. You have to be drugged to lose weight. We're living in a society right now where it used to be 50 years ago. America was the greatest country in the world. 12-year-olds and 13-year-old kids used to train, do push-ups, love our country, the flag, God, this and that. What do you got now? You got internet. People looking like where the baggy pants and going, you know what? I want to vote for this. I want to vote for that. Everybody free. Everybody in our country. Let's trash our people. I mean, there's no integrity when I'm saying, and I'm saying that where are the people? You guys, they back it up all the way. Even if you're wrong, you back it up all the way, you know what I mean? That's interesting. Tom, what do you stand for what you saw? Well, first of all, if you don't mind because you and I will analyze and we'll talk and say, what do you think he's going to talk about? What did you think he was going to talk about and didn't match what you thought he was going to talk about? No, I thought this was a big build up to like some Super Bowl halftime show that I Tucker Carlson with my reach with my audience, which are significant credit. I thought he was going to come out with a real platform about what it meant to be an independent party. That's what I thought. This had a lot of feeling in it, optimistic, wise, decent. I'm like, wait a minute. It's the liberals that throw out the feeling in a speech with no program attached to it, with no policy attached to it, with no platform. I was very surprised by this. I thought it was simplistic and I was looking for more considering the build up. Adam, your thoughts? So I'm not going to do what everybody thought I was going to do and just completely freak out on Tucker Carlson right here. So I'm going to bring some stats and some facts and you guys can fact check me. Number one, Tucker Carlson. He was a registered Democrat for 20 years. 20 years. Okay. Okay. Nothing wrong with that, but I just thought that'd be a good thing. Every single person that he's in in that picture, he said, you know, his reasoning. He says, I did that because I lived in DC. And it was more of a strategic thing, not because I was a Democrat. He'll say that. Yeah, that's like me saying, hey, he said he needed access as a reporter. Yes. I get it. That's like also me saying, I'm straight, but all I do is go to gay clubs because it's way easier than you've been doing that for years. You've been doing that. That was your thing, bro. Yes, I worked black man. That's my action. National 10. You're proving my point, sir, but his collection of what I would call crew of rejects. Yep. And I don't mean that like in a in a bombastic way, every single person that he was having dinner with, Thomas Massey, Marjorie Taylor Green, Joe Kent. They've all been rejected by MAGA. Now you want to talk stats. 2024, two years ago, Tucker's net favorability within MAGA was plus 54. Now it's just above neutral. And I give so much credit to the MAGA people out there. They're like, yeah, you switched up, bro. If you're going to switch up, that's fine. But at least give a valid reason as to why. Now the last point with this crew of rejects and him switching up this, this 10 point plan which I thought Anthony Fauci had the weirdest diary. This seems like a diary thing. Three things that I have a problem with. Honesty, optimistic and united honesty. He lost all credibility with me when he did that interview with the New York Times and she goes, you've called President Donald Trump to antichrist. I never said that. I would never say that. Roll the tape. Is this the antichrist? I think it may be. All right. Well, like, do you not know how the internet works, Tucker? We could just roll the clip from two weeks ago. Number two, optimistic. Listen, future looks bright all around us. Anytime I watch, Tucker, it's the sky is falling. Russia's better than us. Government's going to take over. That doesn't seem like a very optimistic approach. And the last thing united, you could say you're united, but respectfully. One of the most divisive characters in politics today and in commentary today is none other than Tucker Carlson. That's my issue. Yeah. So to me, I was expecting more. I think, you know, you could have gone specific with affordability and actually hit hard with a plan. Here's like, let me put it to this way. Imagine like how simple it is. We're going to put more money on your pocket. And this is why if I become president, there is no tax on tips. How easy is it to transfer money? I'm all in. If I take, if I take any of these 10 points and I ask you, go transfer that at dinner tonight with three of his policies, [BLANK_AUDIO]
So now he may come back and say, "Guys, I'm not running. You guys are like getting this twisted. I'm just, I'm just giving you what I think needs to happen to America because some are saying this has happened because, you know, they're getting behind JD and Tucker has no desire to run, right? Tucker has said, "I will run as long as I get to debate Ted Cruz. I don't know if Ted Cruz is going to be on the stage this year. I don't know." You think Ted Cruz is going to be one of the candidates? No, I do not. No, I do not. No, I do not. No, I do not. No, I do not. I don't see it. I don't see it. that even Rubio may not be running, like there's no plans of Rubio running. And even yesterday, this is a story that came up that said, Trump is going around asking conservatives to get behind J.D. Vance and support him, and people are like, wait, getting behind J.D. Vance, I thought you were Rubio guy. Now he's going behind J.D. Vance. So yesterday reporter asks the president, hey, what is all this stuff with J.D. Vance? Look how quickly interrupts the person. Watch this year. Go for it. There's a report that you told donors that they need to get J.D. Vance elected in 2028. Is that your official endorsement? I heard about it a little while ago. I think he's great, but we're way too early to even be thinking about that. That's the right answer. That's the right answer, way too early to be thinking about that. He's got two years, and he's got to run his country, and then two years we'll see. But also two years from now, it's going to be a whole different story. Every day is changing. Who knows what's going to happen next week, but the fact that matter is that after two years from now, our president is not going to run. What are they going to worry about? I agree things will change, but what will not change is J.D. Vance will be the vice president still, and these conversations are going to happen. You bring up J.D. Vance, because I'm speculating. What about J.D. Vance has a scandal between now and two years? What about if something comes out that he did something to a six-year-old? I'm just saying, of course, this is politics. What happens if COVID happens? I get it, but he's the vice president, it's all I'm saying. But wait a minute. I'll put your eggs in a basket. Let's get past this one. Here's a part to get past. Do you think this was a presidential election video, or do you think this was just a rah-rah motivational video? Hey, let's be united. Let's be this. Let's be optimistic. I'm going to give you a talk of Carlson's message that he gave. You think he's running in 28. I don't. Okay. Percentage. Give the percentage. Well, you're 5 percent 10 percent. I'm lower than that. I think you're letting 5 percent. Even if he does, honestly, is he running or not? I don't think he is. Less than 5 percent. Running for what? President. Will he be on the ticket? He knows he'll get, he knows he'll get smoke. If you pull up, he doesn't want to lose publicly. Is it 15 percent? You're saying 15 percent is running. I told you, where are you? I wouldn't run. Absolutely. He's running. You have money. He's ego is too big and he's going to run just for the heck of it. I mean, these people run not because they're going to be elected. They run because they want to put themselves elected on a pedestal. You're putting Tucker's running. So you're what? You're 70 percent, 80 percent? I'll just put all my chips on the table. Really? Would you vote for him? No, never. Never. I'm 40 percent that he's running and I think he's seriously considering it to answer the question. Where are you at, Pat? I appreciate that. I think I'm at 20, 30 percent. And a more and more goes. Remember, remember four years ago, three years ago, I said there's alliances being created. And one of the alliances was Trump, Tucker and Elon and Tucker went to X to put his interviews there. And the first 50 interviews he did, all Elon ever did is retweet his interviews and say very interesting. And those interviews got Tucker from five million followers to 16 million followers. Can you go on Tucker's ex account to see how many followers he has? I don't know what he has, but he's got to have. He's definitely 10 plus million. The last time I checked, it could be much higher than that. That would be in a 15, 16, 17, 17.8 million. That's presidential type of followers to be able to run. So I put it at 30 percent. Who does he follow? Who does he just check on the file himself? It's himself and it's you gave a warning to my point. I like this. Let me make sure you get your nicotine out. Adam, there's something very important that you said. And I'd like to go back to it. The guys can pull up the clip. What Pat was talking about, when times get tough and things like this happen, you will be very surprised by alliances at forum. And there will be some unusual people that will be picking these are weak alliances he created. You know why? Let me tell you why these alliances are weak. Nothing against MTG, nothing against Joe Kent. I don't know them. I've interacted with Joe a couple of times. One time 60 minutes reached out to me. They said, could you put me in contact with Joe? I reached out to Joe. I said, Joe, these guys are telling me to get in context. He says, thanks for reaching out. I'm not interested. I've told him a million times. So, but that's the only interaction I've had with Joe. Now, let me tell you. Massie and I, I've tried to have Massie on many, many times. He is concerned to be an on because he's worried about one question. I'm going to ask him which one and it's you know what it is. So, but here's the thing. When you build alliances and you're a Tucker, here's what happens if your alliances you're building are lower than you. You know what you're telling to the world if your alliances are lower than you? What are you telling the world? What is mine? I don't know if you understand the question of mass. So, if I'm if I'm trying to build alliances and I'm building alliances of people that are under me, every one of these guys there, he's the alpha. Right? Right. So, what are you doing building alliances below you? I'm the alpha. You're telling the world this, I can carry the weight to the finish line. Okay. So, guess what? Who can do that? Trump can do that. He can. All that. He can do that. Reagan can do that. Right? Certain names can do that. Like the census cannot do that. The census needs to create alliance up. Trump created alliance down because he's already massive. He was an a-lister. He doesn't need to create all 24. We found out that Obama couldn't if Tucker thinks for a second that it is I'm the guy, the market's about to decide and say yay or nay. So, if he then decides to go up, what they're saying the reason why the up is not happening, there's obviously very close relationship. His son worked for JD Vance for a year. So, we know JD's a non-interventionist and he's kind of trying to do this. And you know what's going to happen with JD doing this? You know what's actually going to happen with JD? It's going to happen with JD. Rubio's going like this. Boom. I'm here. Rubio's going. No, with this position, I'm here. JD's going like this. And the more JD's going like this, he's going to be a John Kerry. He's going to be a Romney. He's going to be one of those guys that you're going like this and look, just tell us what you're staying for. Let's hash it out and make the argument. You know, I don't think we should have any worse. Awesome. Let's debate it. I don't think we should do awesome. Let's debate it versus well. You know, you go a little bit here. A little bit there. That's not going to work out for him. So, to me, if Tucker's taken his position of M.D. Alpha and your alliances are below, M.T.G. Joe can. These are not heavyweights. They're not going to give you anything. You already have that base. You need to go like, you know, who needs to be in that room? Let me tell you who needs to be in that room. He needs to have that room be with somebody like a Peter Thiel or a, you know, a who's the guy from Nvidia, a Jensen. Or you need to have Sergei Brin. Or you need to have a smart, very smart people. Somebody. That ship has sailed. Yeah, they'll never get you are saying that ship two years ago. Yeah, let me ask you a question. Let me tell you who defended him. Jason from the all in podcast defended him. Can I think they were roommates in college. One of those guys was Tucker's roommate literally. Yeah, so let's just move that away. So, but, but this is not even like, I don't get you think Silicon Valley is going to get behind Tucker. Yeah, let me just explain my point to you. But I'm saying to you, it's Jason Calla. I think it's Jason. Calla canas. Yeah, he does a great job. Host and those guys are all great. But I tell you, if in that room, a Chimatz in the room, if a Jason's in the room, if you have to say, I got the all in business guy in the room, you have credibility. You might get the all you might get the all in business podcast from Qatar to show up. But those guys are on a team mag at this point, because isn't David Sacks the AIs are four Trump. But hasn't Chimatz been very complimentary of Trump? Just because David is that doesn't mean the other guy. So all I'm sure. So, so you know, you know who should have been in that room. That would have been a perfect person in the room. Mark Cuban. Yeah, absolutely. He needs to have somebody. None of them are going. I see what you're saying. None of those are good people are going the wrong. Yeah, so I honestly, I was expecting. I was actually disappointed. Me and Tucker are obviously not friends. We're not, you know, we're not best of friends and all this of everybody knows the openly I called them out and he called me out for. I think he said something about Catholic comments I made and I told him I said, look. Everybody says, I'm taking money. You're taking money. Why don't we just do a full on audit by three different account. You show me. And you never got to respond to that. Never responded. I said, take every one of my businesses and let's see how many deposits either one of us have gotten from any institution. And let's audit those. Let's go. Let's create a separate account of a half a million dollars. He never got back to me. But you called him out. Of course he never was. But but you have to realize my call out is not a call out of rage baiting my car. It was respectful. It's great. That's my point. It was respect. But where I'm going to respond to as a person who loves the game of debate and competition and ideas. I actually am disappointed that he didn't put a better plan together. Give me. But I can tell you why he did. You are expecting this. And I wanted to. I want to be so good that we are. We're guys above everybody else. We're covering this as the first story. Yeah. Because we thought it'd be great. But it was Patrick. You dealing with a guy that is above everybody else when he wakes up in the morning. The only people that he can work with as people who are dumber than him lower than him. You understand? He can't work with people who are smarter. Have you ever met him? Have you guys ever interacted? I've been in the same at Fox when I used to go there. We used to be around the same people and stuff. But I can see, you know, I have come. I can see the guy for who he is. See, Trump is a smart guy. But he also hangs out with people smarter than him. You see what I mean? Because guys like Trump want to learn, want to keep learning. A guy like Tucker doesn't want to learn. He knows it all. So when you know it all and you have people.
below you, you're gonna get a group like this to tell them what to do because they'll do it, like sheep. So they're all sitting at the table going, yes, Tucker, you're the smartest guy. You're the king, you know, you're the goat, you're the goat. But there's the goat who goes fishing every day, doesn't work out, he's never done a push up in his life. Listen, he can even walk a mile. So, but that's the guy who I'm supposed to listen to. And he's a smart guy, but when you show off like that, and you don't come with compassion, that's where he is, where he is. Look where he lives in the middle of the world, that way from human beings with animals, because that's the only people, animals, and the only things he can respect is dogs, and he respects animals, more than humans. Come on, and that's that way, I think that was a very good breakdown of whether some people agree with you or not. I think it's a very good breakdown to say, I like it. It's to say, look at the dog behind him. Look at the dog behind him. You see what I mean, that's the queen. That's his queen. The dog photo, let me tell you the fact that you found that dog, they know you're good at playing the game. Look at the wrong. Yes, where's the validity to him? Are you ever the smartest guy in the room? I see all the meetings you meet. Yeah, you did every time I'm in the room. So tell me, well, you also have videos, Tom's gooder than we are. He's as long as he's on the room. Exactly, he's exactly, he's got smart enough to know. You don't need to be the smartest guy in the room. No, you don't, by the way, neither is Trump. No, I'm saying Trump's not the smartest guy in the room, but, but, but let's go past this. So I want to go to the next topic, and I'm, I'm curious to know what you guys will say about this, because they're saying 2028 will be the first AI election. And this is on page five, if you guys want to go to it. 2028 will be the first AI election. This is an axial story, which, Tom, I'm going to come to you first on this one. I'm curious what you say in Antonio, and I'll come to you, sure. So we're headed to the first true AI election. This will be the first election cycle where AI is both a dominant policy debate and a wildly deployed political weapon. AI allows both candidates and bad actors to persuade and perplex with unprecedented speed, scale and precision in our election. Watch what works as those same techniques will likely be used against you. Number one, persuasion bots. Campaigns are training tech spots to hold back and forth conversations in their candidate's voice. Some voters engage for hours, granting precise knowledge of what ideas and language moves them. The most Yale researchers found a bot that admits it's a bot. It's just as persuasive to people as one posing as human. Powerful. Number two, simulated voters. Political operatives are running AI agents that mass produce synthetic voters and test ads against them. This helps fine tune the perfect message, including any words and image before it ever reaches any actual human voters. Number three, AI fire hose. Those Yale researchers found AI conversational persuasion doesn't practically scale. And noted that flooding social media could be the cheaper play. My bet Amplifying pre-existing views will win out and in turn. That'll shape how LLM, language learning models, answer future questions asked by voters. A huge new battleground will be attempting to mold what the most popular LLM, Claude Gemini Grock, and Chagy B.T. say about candidates and their views. Tom, thoughts? And what's interesting is they left perplexity out of that list. And I think that's probably the best deep researcher pointing people I talk with. So the first thing they bring about is how AI can be used as a fair tool. A persuasion. But while you're doing that, while you're doing that, hey, guys in the back, can you do me a favor? I'm sorry, Tom, that turned to erupt. Can you do me a favor? Ask the same exact question on four different LLMs. Ask who is more likely to win 2028 election? J.D. Vance, Newsom, Rubio or AOC, and why? Ask the same exact questions on the four and ask for stats. And let's see how they each answer the question. Go for Tom. So first of all, there's the two ways that AI can be used as a tool. Persuasion block simulated voters. That's using it in a fair way. Here are the three areas that scare the hell out of me. The AI firehose-- when they say AI firehose, what they're talking about is overwhelming. People check out the likes and the comments before they go into the substance of the likes and the comments. It's like Vinnie, Adam, you're both a social media. So we'll see something, maybe a comment about the WMBA by a notable person that we know as a real person. And we go, wow, 2100 likes and 14,000 comments, holy crap. And so we see that. And right now, AI can overflod that with bots, making a comment look bigger than it actually is to real actual voters. So that is the fake amplification I worry about, Pat. But here's the other two things I worry about-- speed. The speed of which a fake news or a fake story can flood social media, be mistaken as real, and then flooded with likes and comments is going to mean that voters, that the opportunity for voter deception is very, very high. And that is the part that worries me, Pat, is how quickly can the social platforms-- it's basically X Facebook and Insta. Those are the big three. How are they going to be able to monitor if there are fake news stories going out in an election and somebody is being unfairly smeared? One way or the other, that's the one I worry about, Pat. I don't worry about the first two, which are tools. I worry about the fake news filtering it by the socials and then responding so that the voters can see, oh my gosh, that was a BS story, I can't believe that. My friend, this is what I think about this whole thing. I even go beyond that, because both parties will have their ways how to deal with their elections-- Yeah, that's why I said both sides. Both sides will control that, and they will have billions of dollars, but who controls them is the point. We're controlled by the matrix, by people in higher places who control the whole shabang. So I want to go beyond that, because if you're looking at the parties or the individuals, it's too small, because they're controlled by somebody and something and something and something. They control the media for all these years. They control the outcome of the media. They control the outcome of what the media is saying. And they brain own everybody else, especially the young voters, because they'll follow anybody off the cliff. It's like that guy with the flute, remember that story? The pipe, pipe, pipe, let all the rats or whatever it was. So who has the big rights who can reign can bring everybody in, but who controls the politicians? That's why I don't trust anybody, and both parties are wrong. Because after all, they use America, our taxpayer money, to buy everything, they fly, they do, they do, they do, they buy all these homes, and nobody says anything. Nobody gets in trouble. Listen, we have the tape brothers down the street with rats, and they haven't done anything, and they were dealing with these politicians who have done malicious, evil things who are running our country. So it's very dangerous. How are you going to fight that? How are you going to-- that people actually have to rebel and go, you know what, we're enough with this. We're going to fire everybody. After Trump, we're going to fire everybody. Everybody's fired from, they're done from the political world, and then we're going to hire everybody else. Based on morals and everything else that is truthful. And that's it. - Adam, your thoughts. - Well, I'm going to disagree with our friend Antonio, even though you're way better looking and cooler than me. I'm just going to tell you right now, you're conflating both parties as if they're both bad. - Yeah, they're both bad. - I'm going to assure you, one is way worse, and I'll let you do the best. - Sure, but they're both bad. - On which party is way worse. That's like, hey, I broke my arm, or I died, and I got ran over by a car. - But you broke your arm, and I'm the good party, but I'm not helping you. What I'm saying is that both the government's not here to help me. - You're going to help yourself. - Exactly, exactly. - Forget about waiting on the government for anything. - Then help yourself first, and then ultimately, that's my answer on this thing. Ever when we're talking about this AI thing, we're talking about AI, it comes down to three letters for me, why oh you, and they're talking to you. They're basically saying, your mind is about to get taken over. You cannot, for the first time in human history, you cannot believe your lying eyes were no longer living in the information age. Information is readily accessible. We're now living in the validation age. Is what I'm seeing even true, bro. And what was the number one thing that the World Economic Forum said that the world should be very scared of, misinformation and disinformation. So you're telling me in a world where-- - We said that, exactly, yeah. - Two-shay, you're telling me in a world where most dudes, not most, a good percentage, are like, yeah, yeah. All of an AI girlfriend, I got nothing going on. Me and-- - Or a real boss. - Girlfriend, Barbara, having a great time. So Vinnie, I love Vinnie, I'm not calling you out. I'm just saying, one time Vinnie said he got in an argument with this guy online. They're going back and forth. You've done this before, you've worked it online. I barely turn on my phone after I post something. I go Vinnie, Pat just said that 51% of the internet is are bots. You might have been arguing with a bot, bro. Vinnie goes, oh, I might have, bro. Stats the reality these days. And then the saddest thing was this part where they said, yellow researchers found that if a bot admits it's a bot, people will still be like, yeah, it's okay. (laughing) Like what? Like people are just down to get fooled and tricked. And this is why you know that you talk about the case against the economy. Meanwhile, Claude said it, you see researchers and broke out of it. Let me ask this question, Tom. Of the people that are going to get fooled by bots, were those people already going to vote one way anyway? Or how many of them can you flip? I don't know. Let me ask the question. That's a good question. That's a really good question. So you got the people that are the 40, 44, 42% whatever that. They're going to vote in a way that you can't change your minds. Take the people, are those guys flippable? I know that's not even a word. Are those guys that-- Three election, there's a 10 to 12%-- That's what I'm saying, the 10 to 12. You're right. So what percentage of the 10 to 12 would fall for some of these bots?
That are being shown and highlighted and you know 50 the other day we showed a video right? We showed a video on vitamin on what happened with SpaceX right you remember and then Elon retweeted it I don't know if you saw this video if you want to go on X go on the vitamin Twitter account That crashed into the moon. Yeah, so so we posted this video go a little bit lower until you find it and This this got picked up and went viral all over now. Keep on lower. It's a video. Keep going lower. Keep going lower You'll you'll run it to keep going lower. Yeah, it's as fake. It's it's a video that was posted Two days ago is what it was. Oh my god, we three. I love that. There it is. There it is So if you watch this video. Yeah, we watch this a SpaceX rocket crashed into the moon leaving a hundred foot crater Okay, pretty good-looking video right there fantastic. Yeah, no video footage of the SpaceX rocket impact exists as it was not Visually observed the crashes confirmed only by tracking data and the crater has not yet been in it So they created this video to say if it would have happened This is what it would have looked like Elon retweeted it if you go a little bit more. He retweeted it? Yeah, he retweeted it because it's you know his fan No, no, he just retweeted the video for the audience to see a Discarded SpaceX Falcon 9 upper stage impact at the moon at roughly seven times the speed of sound releasing energy Comparative to about three tons of TNT the impact created an estimate of 30 meter crater that is too small to be seen on Earth with the naked eye this video is AI generated of course to provide visual context now Grah confirmed that statement, right? So okay, so there's gonna be things that videos are gonna show up an event that took place. That's not recorded That's one way of showing things But there's gonna be videos that are gonna be created to manipulate the hell out of you and those things go viral You know, and he can even be like where? You know the lips are moving, you know, they're moving, but it's saying complete different thing right? Of course technology is so getting better every day right now Every day and imagine and imagine in two years and and you made a great point They're taught this AI version is talking about calling people and speaking as the candidate and like Who's fought like for instance, and it's to me back to the voting like you're talking about is the older people that are getting scammed Like when somebody calls Being honest because this happened to me two days ago Mr. Doshana your Amazon account was I go broke shut up, and I hung up on him So imagine that older what about the IRS calling people every day? Of course because all these people answer the phone. Yeah, the IRS they get scared and then they call and they stay on the phone Like if you don't hang up the phone the police is coming exactly my mom almost got I got that call me Yep, so my point is if you think about it. It's actually a little bit scary I think we go towards the older people, but if you guys think about it now even the young ones because they're just it's a Some but the majority of you like if I get a phone right on general hospital in 94 people call me by my name They thought I was that character. That was a 94 I mean we're talking about we they're getting inside their brain and they're owning them like that's it That's the one to go but like for instance like me and me and Pat have a funny thing that we do like when we get random text I'm put you all you guys get it. Yeah, we have me because when we're bored We're sitting on a plane or whatever we go in. I don't I don't pick up any phone call bottle recognize it Well, oh I responded and then what happens you're ending you're in it you're in it. Yeah, I know you respond Yeah, yeah, so I get to see how the old people but my point is like think about this and you made a great point because if we're in an election Month Adam a month, they'll that it's happening right? By the time you see a video and nobody's sitting there trying to confirm especially those people. Yeah that right automatically Becomes truth because if you think about it during the Biden administration during the election with Trump They had the DOJ and the FBI going to Twitter Suppressing stories absolutely not letting stories meanwhile the mainstream media is clearly clearly Left leaning and and and and they're all in it and all the late night shows are all left this But I just I just think you know journalism you made a great point Adam journalism guys all this is dead It's up to you guys and I'm telling you right now. It has to be you Yeah to go out there and verify and double verify and say is it real? Yes, is it real? Yes, yes, and that's and that's why it's gonna slow down your I got to conclusion thing I got you got to figure out is that really Trump with this crazy hair saying that he's got that you have to look ladies in gentleman I will always say Vinnie's brilliant because of that point right there. It's true. Okay. I'm gonna. Can I you just triggered something to me I have to say Pat tell me if you remember this who members in school Stop drop and roll. Yeah, everyone knows it. There's a fire you do that and then there's a famous song they came out that said stop Collaborate and listen to analyze in the AI day to these days. Yeah, so you don't basically go down the rabbit hole of not knowing what's going on We need to develop something and you just said the right word verify stop stop think and check Yeah, that life is up. Take and use your brain. That's what you gotta do. We're good. We're good with the story Let's go to the next one are guys Adam's giving life change and advice. Hopefully you guys took it To the next one. All right in Michigan. There's a guy named Abdul Elsaid who won via a democratic senator primary race and There's been a lot of controversy behind it one of the things that's very interesting is with this guy He is telling a story about how it's only fan how is Instagram Algorithm all it does. I want you to watch this and this one viral I watch at first. I kept seeing this guy like this. I'm like, why is why does shown this video? Why is this going viral? This guy's a pretty smart guy by the way. I think he won valedictorian when he graduate He's not a life. I think he's a doctor. I think he's he's done stuff So it's not like he is very well spoken But this is one of the things that he said that it's just extremely funny and everybody retweeted and says should we tell him watch this clip? Go for it. If you're on Instagram my team has has access to my Instagram account And like the things that I actually look at on Instagram, right? Of course we get served that on your for you page But then like every third video that scrolls on its own is going to be some only fans model And it's because it clocked me as being a 40-some-year-old man Did you guys get it? Clocked him. Yeah, it clocked him. So that's true for him. That's what he looks at Notable what he's saying. I don't know if you know like what he looks at. That's what he looks at everything He's just he just said I look at porn Antonio. Please check what Vinnie's to explore pages. Check your phone What do you know? I'm asking. What do you think you're going to see on Vinnie's phone? I would say legs and Oh, what do you see? What do you see? What's all animal every I don't think it's show that because I do You know why just means that all he watches not interested because I don't want But he's also kind of into like be slightly a little bit. I don't know But the point is yeah, you were you were making the point so he looks at porn every day. That's what he does That's when your algorithm. That's who you are. I'm sorry. That's what you're looking at. Yeah, he just proved it He looks at Make it girls feet boob's butts. There's Tom. There's Tom's yeah, or type formula one car restoration That will be month there's guys. I'm going to sit this one. I'm going to plead to please check our phone Just see what we look at the fifth on my page. Do it. Do it. What do you have? What's what what a great Presented to debate hold up your insta hits. I showed it to him. Okay, go ahead. So many is fighting I got politics. I got baseball cards. I got bodybuilding Vinnie. This is what I got here. I see it. Okay, so That's what I got. I'll let you validate this content. Mohamed Ali Chas Paul Menteri watches I'm going to let you validate because you're both all chicks. What is it comedy? Basketball. Finder Come on Pat. Don't film me. I love it. Can I? Yeah, come on Pat. What do you see? No, it's a lot of basketball. Okay. Yeah, that's what you know we go So like but but here's a thing. So let's go do it. So Adam. So if if first of all Him winning if you want to vote a the clip from Hassan Piker I think it's because Hassan Piker right now the Democrats are Like everyone being like I'll be out to say about this candidate two Democrats watch him go forward Like everyone being like Abdul has a fuck ton of work to do mending bridges Here's the fucking take nuke for you. Okay, you are all unbelievably islamaphobic pieces of shit. Okay. Oh God. Why did they have to why did I have to go like that? Well, what will it turn to because they're not Democrats. I'm ready to be part of this. Well, can I go? I'll tell you something right now if I may because that got though that guys like that are the scum of the earth. Okay. Their families aren't from here. They come here and all they doing then we set up a boxing match with me again. Oh, no, you're But we do like a celebrity boxing. I want to I want to I want to I want to say this piece about people like Hassan Piker And I'm going to get into this Abdul say who says if you can't say my last name, I'll say whatever the hell I want. Okay. This guy has openly said a Hassan Piker not patriotic this guy dresses up cosplays like like Mao from China. He has no identity. He's just he just goes with the when he sets like he wants the to soak in capitalist blood He says to kill freaking politicians. This guy is the most anti-American when I signed up for the military They said you make an oath to protect this country from enemies foreign and domestic That's the domestic one that they keep talking about that nobody really sees. Okay. Those are the guys. Okay, and he's representing this guy This guy Abdul El-Sahee he's not a socialist. Okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm not but but I'm saying it And I want and you mentioned it kind of earlier this this this fight that's coming. Yes, what? I'm ready for it and I know a lot of Americans are to because this guy pet El-Sahee he wants he's not a socialist He's worse. He wants to show he supports your real law He wants to defund the police he wants to support de-carceration. He wants people to jail a abolish ICE supports tolla and this the Bax medical for all including illegal aliens. They they all have the same thing. He supports a billionaire tax And the dsa backs and he came up
campaign with known communist, bro. Hassan Piker is a freaking communist, okay? And then, buddy, there's a counter-terrorism expert, he was in front of Congress with Ted Cruz that we were talking about earlier, Kyle. Shidler, I guess, he testified about this guy. He said that his ties to engage, which is close ties to the Council of American Islamic Relations, and his father-in-law's leadership roles in the Muslim Brotherhood linked organizations, then he confirmed that the Muslim Brotherhood partners with Democratic Socialists of America and Michigan voters deserve answers about this guy and who he is. And I hope, guys, the fight is here. It's no no longer, hey, they're coming in there, whatever, because the goal is what? The goal is what? Put as much people flood the system, try the Sharia law, but I'm telling you right now they came to the wrong effing place, and I'm sorry, Pat, because it's true. And people are worried about these people. I'm not to get out of here. Bring on the vote. - Okay, so there's a clip of him being asked to disavow Hassan Piker, and I think he refuses. If this is the clip, go forward and play. Go ahead, we got two clips to play. - He said that you need to renounce people like the left-wing streamer Hassan Piker, who was campaigning with you, who was out there in Michigan on Monday night, last night as well. Do you have any plans to do that? - Look, I'll tell you this. I'm less focused on folks who are campaigning with me, more focused on the folks I'm campaigning to. And I think it's important to stay in touch with the folks who you want to elect you. - Good rehearsal. You rehearsed it a thousand times, the people told you what to say, and all that stuff with that little smirks, man. - They set up this fight. - Never underestimate the power of a great communicator. This guy's, if you see how he speaks, play the clip. - Allies are launching is already more bitter. All you gotta do is look at the odds. You're already watching on TV, started today. You know, they think that you wanna use my whole name against me. Listen, man, if you can't say the name, it's Abdul Rahman, keep the name out your damn mouth. - Al Murei, man. (audience cheering) - Look, look who's clapping, look who's clapping. - A white liberal one. - Look who's clapping there. Look, like they're so happy. They don't even understand what he said. Be like, yeah, yeah, whatever. - Where's the difference? - The difference between him and Mamdani is Mamdani is able to hide his rage and anger. He, this guy's rage and anger comes out. - Open, open, open, open. - That rage and anger comes out. So we'll see. I mean, look, the person he went up against, Adam, you were saying she looked like, who, what did you say, his pole look? - Oh look, the girl that he beat in Michigan is like a female Chris Farley. They say, but she's entertaining that Hayley Stevens, I don't know how much money that she spent, how much, but this should be warning, like they spent so much money on her and you didn't win. This is the epitome of the Democrats. - Hayley, she enters what's going on here. - Adam Hayley, Steven's here. We have to beat this girl. - That's how she speaks. - Yeah, but. - Oh, literally, I mean, there's, - Yeah, but Adam, prove me wrong. - I'm gonna ask you this. - This guy, you have to do it, Muhammad. He's gonna do it. - I got it. - But let me ask you a question. How much money can you find out? How much money? - Yeah, a lot of money, Vinnie. - Play it. - I am gonna be working on our behalf. I am gonna be telling the stories. - Oh, that's how it goes. - I'm gonna be on behalf. And you better believe I'm gonna be doing it with a little bit of joy, a little bit of enthusiasm. - This is an important thing. - Eric, don't get me here. - Get to work. - Leave it in the van, damn. - Vinnie, go for it. - It's getting worse. - I don't even know what my point is. Vinnie, we gotta get on the right track. - My point is, look at where, and we've talked about this before, I'm not gonna be the dead horse. Look at where the democratic party is right now. The person that they really wanted was her. That's why they put all the money, all the donors. You can't win with the guy because guess what? When we talked about the affordability and everything that's happening right now, this youth, these young movement, all those liberals and the people. I don't see any Middle Eastern's. Where are y'all at behind them? It's a show. - It's a show. - White people and liberals that are gonna be voting for this freaking guy because guess what the promise is. Free stuff and the hell with rich guys, rich guys. People like Pat and Elon, they're the problem. Are you stupid? You don't be jobs, these people are creating. You know, they're moving the markets. - Tom. - I know we wanna move on, but words talk number stream. How about some numbers? We can pick on her all we want. He beat her by 1.1 points. So let's subjectively look at her and say, that's a weak candidate, man. That is not an aspiring candidate. And here's what happened. There was a surge in the member, two things about elections. A motion, a motion, a motion, turn out, turn out, turn out. This was ready for this Pat. This turnout was the biggest turnout for a summer primary in Michigan history. So in other words, the people turned out to vote in the primary and took it seriously and he won by 1 point. - By the Democrats controlled the votes. Remember, I ran for office and I won my primary in California. One of the, you know, I mean, it was the bluest state in every way she performed. They win by controlling the vote. - But this was their primary, this was their primary. But now let's look inside. What happened? Take a look at her candidacy. She carried African American vote outside of the deep blue center cities. Number one. Number two, when that was 40% had a college degree and female, he wins by 10 points. There's your angry, angry middle, female's vote. And lastly, number scream is the pollsters that were out there had him winning. The Democrat leaning pollsters had him winning by 10.1 points. The RCP, Real Political Consensus, a week before, had it by 10. It turns out to be 1. This is going to be closer than people think and what we can't miss, Pat is underneath this. He's got trouble with the Michigan voters, with the black voters. He's got trouble who were not buying this. So we can see the headline, he wins. But underneath, not by much, against a weak candidate. - We'll see what's going to happen there, Adam. You look like you still want to talk. - I haven't said anything yet. What do you want to, you haven't seen, you've screamed, screamed like a million times over. - Not on this story. - Really? You didn't scream on Chris Barley and all that stuff? - I did talk about Chris Barley, but I think my point yet. Do you want me to go? - Go. - Well, you know, my dad is from Detroit. My dad's from Michigan. We've showed some videos here, which we can pull up. I actually respect this guy. Why do I respect this guy? He's telling you exactly who he is. And I respect that. Number one, my dad's from Detroit, Michigan. We can play those clips in a second. This guy went to the University of Michigan. He roots for Gold Blue. He gave a great speech as a valedictorian or something in 2007. You went to Michigan, you graduated. My dad went to Michigan, respect to you. That's where the respect starts to wane. I actually respect the move that they're doing. If you have a radical base in certain cities in Dearborn or in Minneapolis or in LA in New York, you know that you have 20, 30, 40, 50,000 people who are going to vote for you. Just a smart approach. I respect that. Now, who are these people, these constituency, I have some questions about. The biggest litmus test that I have, Pat, is what do I always rock, the American flag? My litmus test is, how do you feel about the flag? And I'm very certain I know how MAGA, and most Americans feel about the flag. Then there's this whole corner on the left with this horseshoe right. That I don't think they like the flag. I don't think they-- No, I have no respect. Like Hillary Clinton went famous in 2016. What did you call the Trump voteable? The basket of deplorables. This basket of haters hates America. They hate the foundation of America. And ultimately it's going to be the MAGA. Why are they here? Versus the DSA. And that's what's going to happen. Now, this is what I saw when I went to Michigan. Just at the airport, I thought that I was in Israel and I saw less-- Play this clip, we'll play this clip a couple months ago. Detroit. I just want to bring you into speed on what's going on here. There's a couple of other videos. So if that's what you want America to look like, cool. Vote for that. But I think America does not want to look like Shereela. And that's why I think this guy's going to lose. And this is also why I think, 2028, the DSA is going to be a topic. You cannot avoid. And an AOC stands a massive chance of being the candidate, whether you like it or not. She's going to be formidable because Newsoms lied so much that even Democrats are getting tired of Newsom. Do you know the name of the-- the candidate that's running against Al Sayed? Who? His name is Mike Rogers. Remember that name, Mr. Rogers. He's like a typical Republican Mr. Rogers neighborhood. So in Michigan, they're going to have a choice between Mr. Rogers or Hezbollah. Yeah, but you know how you win these campaigns in reality? Because I ran it. How much money is he raising? If he raises $500,000 and the other guy, this individual that we're talking about, raises $1,000,000. $1,000,000? Why not? Well, I mean, we're talking tens of millions of dollars and that's right. Yeah, but I'm saying they raised so much money. Maybe they ran against. That doesn't even live in my district. And she lives in Santa Monica somewhere else, but she was able to raise so much money and donors, $25,000 here, $50,000. Well, she part of the DSS. And the Republican Party did not support anybody in California. Yeah. They don't get California. I got like $5,000 checks from some senator or whatever. I mean, they get hundreds and hundreds of thousands of dollars. That's how you win. Although the money-- Let me get to the next door. Yes, Hilton, so Vinnie, you come to me. You said, Pat, there's a video, do not watch. So I never watched it. Don't watch it. Yeah, I never watched it. Don't watch it. There's a video, do not watch. And everybody, all of a sudden, we get family-- is this the video of telling us what's going on? Not necessarily the video of what happened. Go to play the clip. The person was being seen taken into an ambulance moment ago outside of a home in South Wales.
I don't know what you're saying. But I don't know what you're saying. have a voice because they're scared of that voice. All of a sudden, they treat you like you never existed and you have leprosy. And all those people and all those agents and managers and everybody else included, they treat you like you don't even exist. And they want to push you aside. Oh, as soon as you hear your name, boom, you're done. You're done. You're 10 years. 11 years, like they will hold that because they fight for their community, for their gang, you know, for their, for their, and I said, you know what? I can let this thing break me. And even my family at some point, like in the last 11 years, they said, don't, don't ever act again. Don't never make any movies again because it's over. And I'm like, it's never over, man. I don't care if I have to live under a bridge, I'm going to keep making movies. I'm going to keep doing my own thing. Even if I make movies and nobody sees, I'm going to keep doing what I want to do. And I'm not going to let these people beat me because they will never beat my, my, my strength that I have inside. And I could have, I could have, I could have went like this guy. I could have went. What's the story with McQueen? What's the, what's the story with McQueen? Well, McQueen and Chad McQueen is son. His son was a great guy. And me and him hung out and my dad and McQueen was one of those guys because it was James Gardner, Paul Newman and McQueen. And they all thought they were race car drivers. And my father was the best out of all of them. My father was the best race car driver all these people. James, James Gardner was a great guy. He always thought that he was a race car driver, but he wasn't. Now, you have Paul Newman who became a race car driver in time with Haaz and his team and, and Indy Car racing and all that stuff. He became one because he wanted to learn and then there was Steve McQueen who was born to be a race car. And there was only him and me because I'm still racing. He raced all the way. He did motor crossing all the way. He did rally all the way. McQueen loved to race. My father loved to race. They loved to be at the racetrack. They couldn't watch a race because they wanted to race in it. You know, Jackie Stewart, two or three time Formula One driver. Him and my father would talk racing, right? And as soon as they got on the track, it was like, I'm going to beat you, even a world champion. That's how we are as racers, right? And Steve McQueen was one of those guys that I adore. My family, my father, just big fans. And then I got to chance to spend a lot of time with Chad, his son. And Chad had a huge accident at Daytona. And he was in a coma for three months. And in those three months, he came out. He couldn't race anymore. So we talked a lot. I caught a lot about Steve and what kind of person he was. He was a generous guy. He was a justed. He was a top man. He was number one for me. And my father and him had a lot of stuff in common. And I great respect for those guys back in the day because we don't have a lot of those guys nowadays. Guys nowadays, leading men, they're all bunch of pussies. They're all a bunch of pussies because I asked all these guys to fight me last year in a celebrity boxing match. And they were like, well, I'm going to beat you up. Pretty boy. I'm going to beat you up. Okay, the contract is there. Do it. And they all walked away. And I don't want to mention names. You got to. Bro, I fought last year for my first fight. And I want to fight again. I want to do things that make me happy. I want to race cars. And I want to showcase that. It's never over until he says it's over. You don't think there's any masculine men in Hollywood at all? Not many because they all take. Who would you say is masculine? I think the last of the Mohicans is Tom Cruise. Okay, he's the last of the Mohicans that he can actually back it up. And I think I think Brad Pitt has learned how to do some stuff here and there. But he's still like corn fed. You know, he's a he's a country boy. But but as far as toughness toughness, you know, like really tough inside without having money and private jets and all that stuff. Who can really Charles Bronson was tough. Do you see anybody like Charles Bronson right now? Charles Bronson was a freaking stadium. He was a diver. He used to be a diver. I dove to like professionally. He was diving and then he became a stock broker and then he learned martial arts. I think he could fight and all that stuff. And I think he probably won. Yeah, I think Jason. I think Stallone was at one point. Shwarzenegger now. He took too many steroids. Steve Reese back in a day was a real guy. Sir universe. Yeah, it's just different times. There was different guys. You know, they smoked cigarettes and they went lifting them. Did they ever ask you to wear a dress like they were these guys these days? They did straight up. Yeah, they did. I wore it in the big hit. And the big hit when Mark Wahlberg, there was the the character was it was it he used to like cross dress and when these these these contests wearing women dresses and stuff. And it was cut out as in a DVD. But they asked me to do it. And I was like, I'll do it. But I did it because I'm fearless. You know, I played guys who were, you know, gay or whatever for fearless. I'm fearless. I'm straight. I love women all my life. But I want to showcase that whatever they put in front of me, I'm going to do it. So that's the type of guy I am. You have one life. One life to live. So be yourself and don't be afraid of it. What is that whole dress thing? And while they always ask those like they put your dresses. Well, when you become hit, you know, they want to own you. They want to they want to put your embarrass you. You know, and they want to do that. To me, it was different. It was part of the character. But I did it anyway. But there's a lot of people, you know, John Cena naked at the Oscars. What was that? What was the humiliation, Richard? And then why would you want to do something like and in multiple dresses? Yeah. So, but he's walking naked in front of the world that the Oscars, why do they do that? That's why the Oscars is not even coming on it's coming on YouTube next year. Bro, the Oscars will be televised on YouTube next year. No more like, you know what I mean? Like the Oscars and when that who watches that stuff? They have destroyed the entertainment. And I want to keep it alive. I want to keep the leading man doing their thing and being classy with elegance. And then we don't have a lot of those left. I really don't. We don't. Well, let's go to the next story that takes me right into a burrito story. Nice. That's great. All right. Burrito debate. It's a big thing going on right now with this burrito debate. They're called the burrito gate. And I don't know if you have the clip read in the back or not. But the story with burrito gate is an intro conservative argument over affordability that began with complaints about grocery store prices and crystallize around one sentence from a college student. A burrito shouldn't cost $20. The dispute is only superficially about Mexican food. It's real question is our Americans facing a genuine structure affordability crisis or a cut. By the way, is there a video on this on the back in the back? If you have a video on it, let's pull it up with how this video got started. Then people started responding to this. Matt was the grocery prices are insane. They are still rising, addressing this problem should be the number one priority of every, okay, got it of every elected leader and the stupid foreign wars. And focus on this issue. It's one of the main reasons socialists are gaining power. That's Matt Walsh. Then you have Andrew covert who said one of our TP USA college students gave me his take on affordability. Yeah, a lot of this is a hangover from COVID and Biden error inflation, but the limit experience is the same. The lived experiences and it just feels like basic things cost too much. Then you have jolt. We got a few other guys. Jay the vans. I'm surprised to hear musk sadist. If you ever met in person, it's quite obvious. The man has never missed a burrito. Is that actually a real tweet or no? Because Mark Thiesin said, "Crime me a river. The burrito on college cafeterias are included in your meal plan." So that was a turning point that's coming from here from this guy. An event Shapiro said, "I hear that young people are upset about $20 burritos. Okay, young people of burrito does not cost $20." Exactly. If you're paying $20 for a burrito and you're not independently wealthy, you're doing life wrong. We have enough problems as a country with that insane expectations that the government is going to provide us gourmet quality burritos. And Dan Crenshaw said, "Just hearing about this dumb $20 burrito debate, so just thought I'd make the losers on social media angry before going to bed, stop whining, get a job, eat ramen." Like the rest of us did in college on a budget with full roommates. The market doesn't care what you are thinking should cost. Only communist care. They set prices. Remember that every then everyone starves. Are you a communist? Are you even an American male adult capable of handling his own shit? So what are your thoughts, Tom, with this burrito story? So I think the Republicans that are quoted missed the point. They missed the point. If you were to ask me, my wife, Bailey and Brooke, "Hey, is that hot out today?" I'm the guy that loves summer, I deal with the heat, and it's okay. Brooke is the swimmer. There's two other members of the family that like the air conditioning in the summer and are not real summer people. So the word hot to everybody means something else. But if we're all, if we're all in here as a man, the air conditioning is not working. Now you have a point. What's going on here is Andrew Clovet went out, and it's one of these, you know, TPUSA encounters on college campuses. And a person says this, and it was a rational person. Well, you have to step back from it, you know, say, "Oh, come on, man." When I was in college, I ate ramen noodles. Let me tell you, I got a college junior in Houston, Texas, and she tells me what food cost it places around. And it's up. It's up over the last five years. And she has a meal card, and she only uses that. She's very disciplined. But just going out, Chipotle would ever treat myself to a bowl, I hear the prices. Now, true, if you do a delexful loaded Chipotle burrito and you get it delivered with a drink on DoorDash, it's probably going to cost you 20 bucks to get a pay of the DoorDash fee, and everything that goes with it. But what the Republicans should have said is, "Look, it's not about the burrito. We need to do something about affordable--." And then that's what Matt Walsh was saying in his tweet. Yep. And that's exactly what Matt Walsh said, and Matt Walsh is absolutely correct. But to have everybody is getting their quote out there, stop whining, get a job, be ramen noodles? Wow. You know, giving the finger to voters verbally like that and just kind of the dust off, that is not the winning play. And this is something you and I, Pat, have been talking about.
have to not only acknowledge the affordability, but we need to be talking about what to do about it. So, so I just pulled it up right now and I asked the question. Tell me the average price of a burrito at Taco Bell and Del Taco, okay? Taco Bell is $3.75 and Del Taco was $4.25, okay? I don't think that's better than Taco Bell. Taco Bell, the typical burrito includes cheesy, bean and rice, whatever, buck 49, bean burrito, $2.49, beefy five layer, $4.29 to $4.99 grilled cheese burrito, $5.40, I'm getting hungry by the way, $5.49, $5.99. Can't you know chicken burrito, $5.99? Del Taco, they're most expensive is the deluxe burrito that goes all the way up to $6.49, the epic burrito, $7.99. And then I asked the next question, how much did these things cost? A taco cost 30 years ago, 1996, then five years ago, then today, in 1996, 30 years ago, if you bought a Taco Bell crunchy taco was $7.99 to $0.89. In 21, and that's 25 years later, went from $0.89 to buck 49. That's not a lot. It's not a lot. You go from $0.89 to buck 49. And today, that buck 49 is at $2. So it's up 50 cents, 33% is up in the last five years. Del Taco went from $0.99 to buck 69 to $2.79. U.S. median household went from $35,000 a year, in '96 to $71,000 a year in 2021, which means your income to X median household income, but the price of Taco didn't to X. So just so you know, the price of, so it's actually the exact range of your income. And then today it's $84,000. And so $84,000, the last five years, the median income has only increased say 20% where the price of a taco has increased 33%. So last five years, that kind of does make sense. And I think, I think I'm with you, Tom, in a part of affordability, if you talk to young guys about not realizing what they're going through, there needs to be a message of both. Whether you got to be able to understand how tough it is, we also got to be able to challenge him at the same way. And we're going to see how this messaging is going to land midterms in 2028. This is a real topic of discussion that's going to come. There's a re, can you imagine right now if you're watching this and are they really talking about burritos? Yeah. Yeah. How to help us a burrito story go viral on X. Can I add to that please? Can I say, just say, first of all, out of all the cuisines around the world and dishes burrito is the easiest thing to make. You just put them there, warm it up, put some chicken on top, and beans done, and salad, whatever. So learn how to make that and then you want to have a problem. I mean, anybody can make a burrito, even a blind person. So it's, so to pay $20 because it's the brand. There's a, there's a shopping mall. There's a grocery store in Venice, California, where a medium-sized shake is $30. Okay? Just berries, water, maybe some sugar, whatever. But people because they're living in LA, they like to be fancy. Oh, do you want to have a $30 shake? It's really good. It's the best in the world. You get out for two people at this grocery store, you will spend $1,000. $1,000 for two people at the grocery store. And they're building these because the celebrities go there. It's hot. It's the most expensive. It's the best fruit as this and that. Just get the fruit, wash it. What's it called? What's the name of this? I don't remember. It's in Venice Beach. Find out. It's, I was there last year because I don't live in California more, but I was training for my fight and and I passed by this place and I heard about it and I checked out. I didn't go inside. But we're talking about high, high prices right on Venice Beach. Venice Boulevard and Abikini. Venice, Venice Beach. And this, and they, yeah, I mean, look at the prices on this stuff. I mean, it's ridiculous. Like a little burrito. It's like 40, 30, 40, I mean, I'm giving you some real numbers here. This is crazy. And they'll go there just because maybe the Kardashian went there or whoever went there and they'll, yeah, how much is that thing? And I think there's another part to this. Go for it. Yeah. So basically, I'm just saying that it's about the time. Go make your burrito in other words. Make your burrito or follow the herd and be a sheep. Adam. This is a burrito story, but it's not a burrito. It's an affordability story. Yeah, exactly. I mean, look, you go to Taco Bell. You said it's three, four bucks. You go to Chipotle. It's 10, 12 bucks. You go to, you go to my spot, bodega. It's 12 to 15 bucks, but it's the best burrito you ever had. Because we're in Miami and we're in Florida. Now if you go to California, or they've raised the minimum wage to $25 an hour, how much you think your burrito's going to cost the California guys? So if you do everyone fighting for minimum wage, increasing the minimum wage, you can do that, but you also can't complain about the price of your burrito. Can't do both. Because the more that you crease the minimum wage, who's working making, but also the taxes in California, the tax businesses left the right. So they have so it's a math issue. It's a minimum wage issue, and it's a very emotional issue. It's your food. It's your market place. Things cost money. You decide where you go to those shop. Go get the best burrito you can afford, but don't cry poor because you want extra guac. That's your message. That's expensive. All right. Just saying extra guac. That's good. Tom. What do you think final thoughts on this? Let's get back to affordability and let's do something for the American voters and getting looping this all the way back to Tucker. What are the specifics they could do? Pat and I you and I could do it on energy and data centers and a lot of other things. That's what people want to hear about. Yeah. That was beautiful. Let me let me let me let me go to this next one because this WMBA story keeps going viral and one of the stores on WMBA is Lonzo Ball and Michael Porter, Jr. They're sitting on doing a podcast and they're asking there. They're being forced now to talk about this topic because there's a guy that's transgender in Europe. I don't know what country it is, Vinnie, that he's averaging 20, 20 horses and there's a female. This guy right there. Look at my boy right there. Yeah. Yeah. Please. Please. Yeah. If he said if they contact me, I won't say no. And then there's another WMBA player. That's it. I wouldn't have any problem having transgender in the WMBA. Then there's a real topic, which is NBA players talking about what could have happened if they played against WN Bill players. 10th grade, 11th grade, 8th grade. At what grade would they have dominated? Look what they had to say. And they're trying to do their best to be respectful. Watch this. And I mean as respectfully as possible. But 9th grade Lonzo Ball in the WMBA. It's going crazy. Look, in 9th grade, I'm over six feet and I'm dunking like I'm coming through the like no girl in the WBA is doing that. I'm going back door, throw it up like I'm looking like Jordan out there. So I'm going to say I mean this so respectfully. So great senior middle school day. I give it to the WMBA. I'm so I'm going to go. I have real experience doing this because I played my sisters went to University of Missouri and I was still a young dude and they had me playing like on the scout team. And they had a few WMBA players on a team like Sophie Cunningham and a couple of others. And I think I was like in the 7th or 8th grade going dumb. I'm talking about my so I have a real life experience like it's not fair. This is a difference, man. I wish this was stopping the conversation because it should be common sense. But like it's just not. But I appreciate you know common sense. I feel like sometimes that's lost to love it. Look at the size of this guy on the right. His name is Michael Portage. Yeah. How tall? He's six foot 10. Yeah. Okay. In the NBA, what position does he play? Small forward three. That would be the biggest player in the WMBA by far. That guy doesn't go dunk on people in the WMBA. That guy would average 100 and 100 and 100. I'm just letting let me just play this clip here. Go under for watch watch what she's so bad. She's a WMBA player. Look what she says about transgender's playing. Go for I think it's trans trans rights right now is our new battle. That's what I think that I was saying like the battles have changed. You know like our intention is in the same and now the environment has changed. You see trans people's rights being you know shipped away from them. There's a lot of discourse discourse around trans athletes and where they can compete in. I would welcome a trans athlete on my team working fully embrace it. She's got she's you change your sex and go play with the boys. No, no, no, no, she should change her sex and go play with the NBA. She has to go play with the NBA. You know why this you know why this attitude is this. She's in the mafia. She's in the LGBTQ mafia and as you guys know because Pat talks up a lot of people that were in the mafia. Nobody you don't the the couple doesn't talk crap. You don't go smart. The mafia was smart. But my point my point is my point is my point is the coppers. Yeah exactly my path. The anger. My point. The point I'm trying to make is in the mafia. Nobody goes over anybody's head. No everybody sticks on message. Everybody respect it because you can't or else you get whacked. They're mentally. This is all them. Well, they have that I agree. Well, I agree. But that's that's they're in that mafia and they got a they have to told the line. So this male female done. Why are we even talking about? Why isn't even allowed? I just want to see her take the foul wake up next Tuesday and then answer the question again. You know they say my lived experience. Let me give you my lived experience. I was a point guard in high school. I was a played football college football. I was also played semi pro basketball. I'm a player. I got a football scholar football and basketball scholarship in high school. And I went to a great school called Miami Country Day. And I was in 10th grade. They wasn't sure if I was JV or varsity. So they started me off on varsity. And I was like the backup point guard. I'd average like five seven points a game. And they go let's bring you down to JV and see how you do bro. I'm scoring 30 a game in JV. And the JV team would scrimmage against That's the girl's varsity team.
So 12th grade girls against 9th and 10th grade boys, we smoked them, it wasn't close. We're dunkin', we're throwin' the ball up, we're backin' 'em down, the girls, they did that, so the girls would, quote unquote, toughen up for their next opponent. So you wanna do this in real life, guys. Let's do it. - They allow it. - It's crazy that we're having this conversation. - Let's just allow you to make a boxing. - Let's just have a game. - And let it happen. - And let it happen. - And let it happen. - And the saddest thing is, some girls gonna get hurt. Some girls not gonna make a team hurt. - Some girls have hurt. - Exactly. - They can lose their life. - But they want it, so let's give it to 'em. - Yeah, Tom, thoughts. - You shouldn't be allowed. - No, I think the points have been made. My wrap-up is, hey, let's bring the guy from France, and let's put him on the Indiana field. - She would happen. - They win the championship, and then everyone says, well, by the way, can't the Eagle Bar, she would jump in on that. You know why? Cause she would know that Sophie Cunningham, you've seen the South Park thing. - And Clark are about to get a chip. - And she won't let him get a chip. - I'll let him play it. - No, it won't play it. You could even maybe show an image. But they had basically Macho Man Randy Savage, like, "I'm a looting!" Compete in some female Olympics. I mean, and it went in exactly. - But that was Trey Parker making a point. - And he was right. - But he made a valid point. - Even Serena Williams said it. - He's right here. - He's still right here. The best player ever. - This is his competing tennis. Even Serena. - Karen versus Butch. Who do you think won? - Yeah. So, okay, let's do this last story and then we'll wrap up. Let me get into the story I got here for you. It's five reasons. More Americans are cutting off their own parents according to psychologists. Uh-oh. Parents being cut off by their kids. Let's see what the story's all about. Five reasons. Dr. Richard Blake, British psychologist, based in Austin, Texas, identified five drivers of rising family, family, and after 2025, UGUP survey found 38% of U.S. adults are estranged from at least one family member. First, political and valued differences. Interesting. There were people more likely to cut off someone for having a different opinion than for people who have done serious violent crimes. Blake said, "Second, social media influence, which normalizes a statement through viral no-contact stories and encourages, ward amount, mimicry, third therapy culture, which Blake called a false belief that if you're struggling in your adult life, it must be because your parent did something. They shouldn't. He cited a 2024 study finding a strange adults reported lower life satisfaction and more depressive symptoms. Fourth, communication breakdowns. Blake recommends hostage negotiation tactics like listening, first and avoiding moralized language, such as toxic narcissists, gaslighting, fifth outside influence, including romantic partners and conflicting partners, parenting philosophies. Blake suggested, "Perhaps we should be learning from our grandparents more than the therapies, noting that families are one of the most evidence-based buffers against mental illness, Tom." So, I think there's two things, you know, yeah, we should learn from our grandparents. Yeah, we go in here, but you know, it's really, you know, amazing is that we're trying to, this is an article, you know, we should learn from our grandpa's more than the therapist and moving in, but really what the issue is, there's two sides in the economy that's going in here. It's kids moving back in because they simply can't afford it. They can't launch out of college or out of high school or come in back home from the military. I'm not going by any sort of class or education. All of them are having the issue. It says, "Then it's like, okay, you gotta move out." And, you know, I can't help you. To the boomers who have inadequate retirement, and now looking for their successful kids to help them. It's two sides of the same problem, showing up in two headlines path that look almost comical. I also have to add, "Hormoneo." I think the teenagers where I have, they're almost all jacked. I think their testosterone is way low. I think they're on their computer. I think they're, they're, they're, they're will to survive and go to the next level is dropped. They want to get back home and they'll pay any bills and be on their phones while they don't even care about their families because family values are dead. So, you have a complication of things. There's no will to get it on your own. Nobody's going to come and help you. But instead, you have the government saying, "Well, help you. We'll help you. We'll help you." And everything's getting higher prizes and everything. So, the next generation, I feel sorry for them because there's no will to get it, to get it, to get it up, as they say. You know what I mean? To get it to the next level. To have balls, cajonans to say, "You know, I was 16. I was living in New York by myself. I left school. I lied to my parents. I said, "I passed my GD when I didn't." But then I went back to school and I got my GD at years later under my own terms. So, I'm just saying, my will was always and I also went to a lot of high schools and I was coming from Italy, coming from here and going back to Italy, ran out of money and back and forth. So, now I'm like, "That's a different generation." We were guys back in the 80s and 90s where we just, we want to live and be outside. Now, these people, like I said, their hormones are jacked. There's just no will to do anything. Just give me, give me, give me, and I don't even respect my mom. My parents are divorced. Everything's all but just, just give me a roof over my head so I can be on Instagram, on TikTok. That's how it goes. Vinnie. Yeah, well, when I saw the story about people moving back and when their parents, I was like, "Mom, did you read this article?" She was like, "What?" No, I just, I don't have anything. I can see that out. The way your mom cooks a lot of people would-- Oh, 1,000%. Well, 1,000%. But that's normal. Yeah, you make the bed, you help your mother. Oh, obviously. I got friends of mine in Italy who are, you know, my age. You are still living with their parents because it's normal. But you give. You got a job. You give back to the family. You pray, you know, you sit down at the table. There's a different kind of thing. Right now, they just want to be taken care of. Yeah. Well, I think the number one thing in life is family and friends that comes above everything. I love how Vinnie interacts with his mom. She's the best. I love the example that PBD sets from his dad down to his kids. I love that, you know? To me, I'm still fast friends with the same guys. I went to elementary school with and I bring them around here. And it's awesome. At the same time, there's certain friends and there's certain family that you may have to cut off. And not a ton, but some people that can't always be in your life as you're on your way up. Because, you know, like I said earlier, at the end of the day, it's on you. It's on your decisions. It's on your choices. And, you know, we say, "Future looks bright." You could be an optimist and think everything's going to be positive and work out. And try again, or you could be a negative person. And it's not fair. Blame it on everything. Blame it on the rain, even if you want to do that. You're not going to blame it. Millie Vanille, but, you know, like that's one of the great things about being a path. Being an optimist. So I was at our last event for PHP. I'm at this event and we fly out. And, you know, backstage talking to some guys, coming approaching and, you know, for me, I'm just sizing everybody up to see where they're at. Who's still grateful? Who's still hungry? Who's uniform? Who's a virus? Who's negative now? And it's the most confusing thing on who's most negative now and who's most optimistic. So, last minute I got up and I decided to surprise some of the guys who were not expecting it because we hit her now. So I said, "I'm going to give a cash bonus to some of you guys and you have no clue who it is." So, like, "What?" And I brought Brian up. So I gave Del Tor as $100,000 cash bonus. I gave Seek as $150,000 if I'm not mistaken. I gave Oak of four, $200,000. I gave Swanzo $350,000 bonus and then I gave Hearts a $1,000,000 bonus. Okay, it's a hard cash. Yes, I gave them $1,000,000 bonus in front of everybody and Brian Adams is their integrity the whole night. And, you know, I said, you know, the thing about the five issues that you should, everybody thinks about. In every relationship, you think about these five things. Each party has a set of concerns they have their own motives, they have their own assumptions, they have their own fears and they have their own asks. You with your girl, those five who you're thinking about, she's thinking about that as well. Me with you, I have a set of concerns with you, motives assumptions, you know, fears and ask. In every relationship this happens. And I said, you know what's the one thing that destroys it? The relationship is your wrong with your assumptions. Because you think that person's thinking that, but they're not. And because of that, in many cases, you lose five, 10, 15 years of your life. One of the couples I won't mention upstairs, we're having a VIP and they come up to me, which I was kind of surprised that they came up to me, because another couple did not come up to me. But there's one couple came up to me and we start talking. Hey, you know, we're going to really turn things around. I said, you've been saying it for five years. I don't know if you listen. I don't know why you tell me this. Like, we're going to make you proud. I said, what do you think I want from you at this phase of my life? I need nothing from you. Nothing. I don't need money from you. I just want respect, gratitude, perspective. And if you don't have that, then there is no relationship. That's the only thing I need. I'm going to give you respect because I'm grateful for you, right? I said, there's something, I said, there's so much I want to tell you, but I'm not going to tell you anything. She's, what do you mean? You can tell us, I said, I will never tell you. Why won't you tell us? There's no point in me telling you right now. Why? In my mind, some of these guys don't realize it. The guys that I've made a lot of money and I said this from stage. I said, I hope integrity listens to those who are growing the company today, not those who grew the company three, five, 10 years ago, who are now bitching and whining and they're no longer grateful. And they caught a virus. And what is the virus that you catch? The virus that you catch, which is the scariest virus to catch, you never know you have it. And that's bitterness. The moment you become bitter, you know how this thing works? I'm recommending everybody to go get a cat scan you got your
or CAT scan, I don't know if you've done a CT scan on your heart or not, I'm breaking it in. I know you guys, we have this conversation. What happens when you go do a CAT scan? You're living a regular life and all of a sudden you're like, "Hey, your widow maker's here, this artery's here." What? Yeah. You got to do this, what are you talking about? Well, guess what? If you don't go do that, you're not going to know you're bitter, but you are bitter. So every word out of your mouth, you don't even know how bitter you are. You don't know because you're protected by your shell that you have and you're only, so then becomes one of the guys that won. He's at backstage, I'm talking to him. I won't mention the names. I said, whatever you do, don't join the bitter camp 'cause it's the easiest camp to join. That camp's going to go around to try to recruit everybody. Don't fall for it. Stay optimistic, stay big. So what does this have to do with the five reasons families are not moving in? My dad's been living with me. I live with him for many years, even after my parents got a divorce because he is optimistic, he's positive, he's not bitter. He has certain things that he's, you know, anybody that's around him, he's helping developing all of that. If anybody in the family, you're blood. If you're entitled, if you're bitter, if you're negative, I don't care if they're you're blood. It is not your responsibility to try to change them. Absolutely. It's not on you because you will never succeed. You are not God. God can help them. Their friends can help them, a local church can help them, but they got to make that commitment. So imagine if you then bring that person into your family. Exactly. And they now spread that virus with what do you call it? With your kids, your family. Then all of a sudden four years later, your family picked it up, that bad habit. It's on you. It's on you because you allow that, you know, behavior to be around it. So at the same time, like I said, this is the first time since 1989 that my mom, my sister, my self, my dad, all lived within a half a mile radius. This has not happened since I lived with my mom. I live with my mom now. There's nothing like it. And I live in my family members because we, as Italians, we came here together. The four of us, my father is in heaven now. But my sister and I, my mom, we're close. And there's nothing wrong with doing it together as a family, but you appreciate you have respect and dignity. And you give back. Now they don't want to give back. Like we talked about earlier. And it's a sign of respect for yourself too. I will tell you something though. I will tell you something about giving back to your parents. I think it's a two way highway. And let me explain to you why. My dad, I had to force him to want to live with me. Why? He didn't, I'll tell you right now. He didn't want to live with me with the family, with the wife and kids. I said, what's your issue? What would he says? I don't ever want to be a burden on your family and your marriage. Check this out. We went to the Hamptons. He didn't go with us to the Hamptons. The first time ever. You know what his reasoning is to not want to go to the Hamptons? What? Because when we're in the Hamptons, he doesn't want us to take him to the hospital. Not stop because the day before we went to the Hamptons, he had an emergency, I took him to the ER. So I was at the hospital and he's like, look, I don't want to go. And now as you're aging and you look at the family. God bless. When you're looking at homes, different places. You know, it's crazy. We're looking at home in Hamptons. You know, that one house on the beach. We looked at it. You know, it's the first question that we're asking. What's the crazy thing? I know it. We're asking. How long of a drive is it here from here to ER? It's a seven minute drive. You know, you know these, like you know when you're like young and coming up and you have dreams and like, one day, I want to own an island. This is the chances of me owning an island. Why? You want to know why? Why? You got to get places. How the hell am I getting to a freaking hospital? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I want a hospital. That's five minutes away. And in Hamptons, when we went to the hospital and one of the days, and this guy who was driving me, and I'm talking to him, he says, I said, so how many? He says, oh, you realize if you live in gurney, Montauk, and you have to go to the hospital, the closest hospitals an hour, 20 minutes away, you're done. I said, stop. You're done. The ambulance drivers. You know what they are? They're part time drivers, volunteer, volunteer, 90 year olds, 80 year olds, that you call them and say, hey, do you mind coming in and they have to call people? Oh, no, no. There is a magic. So, so we'll never make it, remember we saw the one in the pyramid, yelling to go to the river. He was like, oh, coming. You're like, no, you're not. You're going. And the paramedic was yelling at him. Artie, over here. As you age, you realize the value of health, doctors, all of that, but also sanity. And help. Sanity. Up around you. Sanity, sanity. But the point I was going to make is the fact that sometimes, generationally, we put way too much pressure on kids to have to take care of their parents. The Bible even tells you, leave your kids and inheritance. So don't pass the burden on to them. How many marriages end up at a divorce because one of the spouse is trying to take care of somebody else financially. And the other guy is saying, hey, you're getting us bankrupt and we're running out of money and you're taking money out of kids going to college. So there needs to be a fair amount of pressure. It can just be all the burden put on one person to have to support everybody. And that's one of the reasons why conflicts happen within families later on. It's a very complicated thing. But with that being said, Antonio, it's great having you on. Pleasure, you guys. You know, you have all incredible genetics to be handsome no matter what age you are. And so that's a gift that only a few people get. Adam. I just want to go back to your, your, your big event. Yeah. What's this? I mean, I met Pat in 2012. You've been doing this a long time. I started this in oh, nine, you were in the insurance business, starting in, I think, oh, one. How's it feel to be kind of a new man now? Priceless. Yeah. Priceless. You know why? The way I view it is the following one. The more and more the last four years I told everybody, my voices are going to get smarter. I don't want a voice in the company. My voice is going to get smarter. I'll play a role on the back when integrity and people call me and, you know, I have a relationship with everybody. Anybody ever calls me? I'm the faster to get back to them. I get back to my guys faster than their own leaders get back to them. So that's not going to change. But it is like your daughter marrying a good man, you have to let them figure it out. My daughter, PHP, married integrity, a good man, it is a good dude. And I'm outside and whatever you guys need from me, I'm not going to get involved. If you ask me questions, I'm right here and I'm going to be very fair to both of you guys. Any questions you want? Of course, my priority is my daughter because that's my blood and PHP is my priority. My job is to protect them, but from the outside, they married somebody very good, Brian's an incredible guy. He's a heavyweight. He's the number one guy in the insurance industry, heavyweight. The world's going to know about this guy and what he's built. That's awesome. And there's going to be good things. When you build a company that's got roughly a one and a half billion dollar e-beta, that's a real business. Yeah. It's a real business. Anyways, game. Respect to PHP. Respect integrity. Yes. It was great. We had a great experience. Gang, have a great weekend. We will do this again next Monday. God bless everybody. Take care. Bye.
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
Antonio Sabato Jr. discusses his career in the 1990s, including roles on General Hospital, Calvin Klein modeling, and a Janet Jackson music video, contrasting it with today’s technology-driven culture.
Sabato shares his family’s tragic history, including his grandmother surviving Auschwitz and his mother showing him concentration camps at age 8, urging Americans to learn from the past.
The hosts analyze Tucker Carlson’s 10-point plan, criticizing it as vague and lacking policy specifics, with debate over whether Carlson will run for president in 202
The discussion covers the 2028 election’s potential use of AI, including persuasion bots, simulated voters, and fake news amplification, with concerns about voter manipulation.
Michigan Democratic primary winner Abdul El-Sayed is discussed, with controversy over his ties to left-wing figures like Hasan Piker and his platform, which some see as radical.
A viral "burrito debate" over affordability sparks conversation about rising costs, with hosts arguing Republicans miss the point by dismissing young voters’ concerns.
WNBA and NBA players debate whether male athletes could dominate women’s leagues, touching on transgender inclusion in sports.
Sabato shares stories about Hollywood, including Steve McQueen, and criticizes modern masculinity, claiming few leading men are genuinely tough.
Summary:
, who reflects on his 1990s fame in acting and modeling, contrasting that era’s personal interactions with today’s phone-dominated culture. He reveals a harrowing family history, including his grandmother’s survival of Auschwitz, and stresses the importance of understanding history to navigate the future. The hosts then critique Tucker Carlson’s 10-point plan, calling it a "nothing burger" of vague adjectives without actionable policy, and debate his potential 2028 presidential run, with estimates ranging from 5% to 40%.
They also explore AI’s role in future elections, highlighting risks like persuasion bots and deepfakes that could deceive voters, urging critical verification. The conversation shifts to Abdul El-Sayed’s Michigan primary win, with hosts criticizing his radical platform and ties to socialist figures, while noting his narrow victory suggests Democratic vulnerabilities. A viral debate about $20 burritos becomes a lens on affordability, with hosts arguing that dismissing young voters’ concerns is politically unwise.
Finally, Sabato discusses Hollywood’s decline in masculinity, praising actors like Tom Cruise, and shares anecdotes about Steve McQueen. The episode mixes personal stories, political analysis, and cultural commentary, emphasizing authenticity and the need for practical solutions over rhetoric.
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Antonio worked with top photographers and artists like Herb Ritts on Janet Jackson's 'Love Will Never Do Without You' video. He described the era as a time of face-to-face human interaction, unlike today's phone-based communication.
He revealed that his grandmother was the only survivor of Auschwitz, with her brother and parents killed there. He learned about the concentration camps at age eight when his mother showed him the ovens and lamps made from human skin.
The plan includes being fair, sovereign, productive, beautiful, healthy, honest, optimistic, wise, decent, and united. It covers topics like equal laws, American interests, manufacturing, city beauty, health, government transparency, family values, education, foreign policy, and immigration.
Most panelists criticized it as vague and lacking policy specifics, calling it a 'nothing burger.' They questioned his motives and credibility, with some noting his past Democrat registration and inconsistent statements, while others saw it as a potential presidential announcement.
AI could be used for persuasion bots, simulated voters, and flooding social media with fake content. The panel worried about voter deception and the difficulty of verifying information, emphasizing the need for critical thinking and verification.
El-Sayed, a Democratic socialist, won by a narrow margin over a weak opponent. Critics, including Antonio, accused him of radical ties to groups like the Muslim Brotherhood and DSA, while supporters appreciated his clear stance on issues like Medicare for All and defunding police.
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