Tuck It Or Not?

Yes, y'all the main to got Andrew show y'all the bridge of his podcast back for another week of brilliant idiotness has like high a walk Our hearts are how all you may I'm good my brother. How are you how was your week? It was it was very It was very nice man. We dropped the new Street Fighter trailer. Oh, I saw that cinema con I thought it how was that cool. It was cool man. I mean trailers fire trails heat But cinema con was interesting. It's basically like you go and like pitch your movie to all the people who own movie theaters around the world Yeah, and you're like in a green room, and it's just like Johnny Depp is waiting to showcase his movie Johnny Knoxville is there They were doing a scary movie so Marlon was there and I'm with 50 and I'm like guys. We're gonna be peaceful today You know, let's keep the peace guys. I thought it was cool though. No, no, they depped it up everything was fine, man So it was a vibe. It was cool. Are you are you anticipating the film the trailer dropping like I'm very excited So I mean shit. It's not too many blockbusters that come out It's a lot this year though. I think Street Fighter's is in that that conversation, right? I think you got like the Avengers doomsday and the spider man dooms. Yeah, but Street Fighter's up there the budget's what budget's well over honey No, I think the budget's probably like a hundred like I think those movies are definitely like a different You know, those are like hundreds of millions. Yeah, I don't even understand how to fuck Avengers plans to make any money, bro I think like what the fuck like the break even they got to do They do plus billion not only they're gonna be maybe they gonna make money and then what they're gonna do is like Reset the world and then they can make cuz they tried they put you have the second movie well She grew up because it's a two-parter, right, but they like they tried to do They tried to do like the other new characters and it didn't stick so they basically got to reset the whole brand I'd be like all right you guys like these characters will make movies with these characters because they fucked it up All he had to do is howl it's your boy. I know, but they don't do it. They don't listen I'll let you boy Marvel Marvel fucked up with simple concept We've had that conversation a million times what they do all they had to do after in you Mm-hmm will move on to a whole other universe, but keep the same character. No, just move up The the the the franchises they have are big enough that they could cast other people You could I don't want today. I don't mean save actors. I mean same characters. No go to the X-Men world But we love those characters. Yes Wolverine, Cyclops, Dean Gray I thought you meant the Avengers still no like Thor Captain America to me It's like you just got to make movies based on the characters that we have emotional connections to yeah Don't go to moon night. Don't go to she-hulk If you gonna do that do it the way they did in Marvel where they introduced the characters got us to Fuck with them fall in love with them. And then you give them a movie Yeah, it don't make I'm with you, but it don't make no sense to do that once you get all it once you get the rights to all your Big name characters back. Yeah, just motherfucking gold the big name characters They should have went to a whole other universe, which was the X-Men universe gave us that for the last five six seven years Yeah, and then misted that you're introducing the multiverse because you're clearly showing us there's a multiverse going on Diverse idea, but it could have been so simple even even if you gave us stuff like Spider-Man, Dr. Strange just to connect all the multiverse stuff by the time You introduce incursions and all that shit like that. Now we know how these worlds are merging Yeah, but like my whole the my issue with the multiverse thing is that like nobody really died no stakes There's no such thing so you you remove those things for and thing in any movie especially in action movie Which is stakes if I know none of the characters that I love could potentially die and Anything that happens here doesn't really matter because there's another world just like it. Yeah, then like why the fuck do I care? I will say this though In movies when do motherfuckers ever really die? I guess actually a shock when you're watching a movie and fucking somebody really dies She's something when Ricky dies and boys in the hood with Tom Jay dies and by Yes, move on but in superhero movies. You know all he called in when he got time by the J As Tom is J How that make you feel is it is day if I want to cry? That's if I want to cry Mm-hmm. I'm trying to get my kids in anything. I think about this see That automatically makes my eyes walk that tears you well. Oh my god When you try to tell your wife how much you love her you think about Thomas J No, I mean that's that's real love. That's real tears right then but when when Veda when Veda was there was a Veda Veda when Veda says His glasses his glasses. Yeah, I can't see without his glasses. And where is his glasses? He can't see without his glasses Put his glasses on put on his glasses. Oh my God Mm-hmm, even with as an adult when you know better you'd be like what is fucking glasses on the moon and the casket You know saying that you know see my girl Oh, you uncoachered piece of swine you got to watch my girl, man What's the what's the football movie the Denzel football movie where he's the coach radio? You know this guy's crazy Remember the Titans. Oh, yes. Oh, yes, Tear Jerker. I don't think I've seen it. I just said yes Remember the title I know the movie but I don't think I watch it if I did watch it it was so long ago I don't even fucking remember I think it's the best thing black and white people did together Including Barack Obama get the fuck out of here remember the Titans is an amazing story. It's so beautiful He was a football player. No, he was the coach of a town that I think was like the school was segregated and then they integrated the school something like that What do you mean he was in it? He was it. He was the boot Denzel what you know, he's on your shirt right now I thought that was Friday night lights. They also got that but there's less of a racial component Denzel the Friday night he wasn't in Friday night lights. You tell me that's not Denzel what man. This is Malcolm X But yes, Denzel did a great job of playing Malcolm. I thought it was a biopic. I thought you see what I'm saying That's how good he was the role. I thought he was a silly activist before he was the greatest American If you've ever read the autobiography of Malcolm X, you know what I mean? If you've ever seen Malcolm X speech He shows his kind of right like Denzel really embodied that character to the point that if you're from a certain generation You might have thought that was Malcolm Even at the end I remember at the end when they showed a real Malcolm. Are we sure? The spirit of Malcolm was definitely in Denzel. The spirit of Malcolm was in Denzel 100% you guys talked about you talked about this Recently maybe a couple weeks ago. What I just went to go see the Super Mario movies? great Fire, great movie. Oh my I never seen it. I went to go back to watch the first one. I never seen it How much fun the second one so much better like it was so good in a room. Oh my god You did it on you watched it on shrooms. Yes, see what I'm saying. You ain't You know what that movie is really about right? Did you see all the reptilians in the theater being that you was on shroom? You know that that movie is all about that movie is literally about a guy being on shroom Being able to see the world the real way his precious level is super high So he can see all the reptilians that actually ruins motherfucking suck. So would y'all so would y'all just stay in a they woke no Would y'all just stay in that type of um world world. Yeah, would y'all go back to earth. I'll go back to earth and we would Mario Luigi go back and forth through the place. Yeah, but would you just like you wouldn't care about work I think that would be where going to I think what you're discussing now is Avatar Avatar. You know what I mean would you want to stay in your Your your I don't know if that's a I wouldn't know if that's a fantasy lamp. I think if I was I was for sure Like I understand why he wants to be there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's running and jumping around. Yeah, got chicks. Yeah, they still getting hard. Yeah Crazy hard fucking what you tell is crazy because it's long. It's it my god Long as dick you got your body. Can you imagine of God design people like that for real? You imagine if God gave you a dick and a tale and the girls looking at you like you'll put that other thing Can you imagine putting those you'll push his nose and your butt and you keep lying on purpose? I'd lie Non-stop, you know what I'm saying? I mean like this shit doesn't smell at all. That's what the tale is My fucking just keep lying and lying till the nose comes out his mouth, but I Would like to be in and out of virtual world, but we do that anyway when we go to sleep when we go to sleep when we dream We're in and out of virtual room. You remember your dreams every night For the most part. Yeah, not every night, but for the most part. Somebody remembers them There's a version of me that remembers them somewhere I really believe when you dream you're in the motherfucking multiverse anyway, so I believe that there's a version of you that You know remembers the dream in some dimension Yeah, I can see you know what I mean because it's a manifestation of your subconscious anyway. That's all it is You gotta see the Mario movie. You didn't see it. The man you got to see it. It's no one's laugh Really it's just it's just good fun, man That's what people want right now, and if you grew up in a certain era It's just like it's so nostalgic. There's a there's a part where they show you the old game Yeah, they're showing the old game on the screen to match the current movie. Oh, it's really really really good That's really good. That's what maybe it's because we're old heads, and that's what we're going through a lot of our nostalgia play But I do think that's the energy right now. It's just like it's escapism and fun You know why because you can't trust anything new that is true. Is it fake? Is it AI is it bots? Yeah, and is it going to give you that you're looking for a certain feeling and ever even even the kids are looking for a certain feeling Yeah, because everything in the world in their life is making them stressed. Are they gonna have a job? Is there gonna replace their job? Is it gonna be constant war? Are they gonna be able to support their family? Are they gonna be able to afford health insurance? Everything is existential crisis. So you give them a little escape, a break from that. You're gonna run it up? - Yeah, and to your point, nothing is real. Nothing feels authentic. You know what I mean? Which is why I think we're about to see a great disconnect. When you see a lot of people start disconnecting away from a social media internet, just because people are gonna get tired to say, "Yo, is this real enough?" - I think you're real enough. - Anybody got time for that shit, man? I think there's gonna be a great disconnect real soon. I think, I mean, I kinda think it's happening now to be honest with you. - I think we disconnect from social. I don't know if we disconnect from like quality, quality, quality production, quality production. 100%, I noticed the disconnect from social just being out and about in the world. Like pay attention when you're out and about. There was a time where everybody seemed like they was doing this. That shouldn't be the same, no more. Like I don't see as many people just pulling out their phones walking around like they used to. Like there's people that got their heads up a lot more paying attention than what's going on in there. - I gotta look for that. - At the airports. - Really? - College campuses, games, like I'm-- - I mean your phone just died though, 'cause I still see it. - You-- (laughing) - What? (laughing) - What was that just like? What was that? Does anybody even know what that was? (laughing) - And that's Taylor being Taylor's best friend. - What did my phone die and have to do with everybody? - Taylor? - No, you too, I was gonna tell you. - I was saying, what have you just caught them when you're doing that? - She's like, what if every single person on the street dies? - What if every person on the street's phone die? - It's possible. Yo, the Chinese ain't playing it. It's possible. - They are. (laughing) - It's possible. Yo, you heard that technology that they had at the Adventure Doomsday screening? Everybody that went to the Adventure Doomsday screening. - I was at Santa Makan. - Santa Makan. They said that the reason there was no leaks. - That was a leak. - Huh? - Where was it at? - This is on line there? - I see no leaks. They said it was a green laser going across the theater and they said the green laser disabled your fucking phone. - Oh, no, Spider-Man leak, sorry. - Oh, yeah. - They say at Doomsday, and they showed the trailer twice. They showed it twice to a theater full of people, said it was a green light going across the theater that disabled your phone. So you pulled your phone out, everything just went black. I thought that should happen to me with prints. When I pulled my phone, God bless the dead. By the way, this is the 10 year anniversary of Prince Prince died April 21, 2016. When Prince came to the breakfast club and he came and he shook our heads, it was early in the morning. I asked him to take a picture. He was like, "I don't wanna take a picture right now." Cool, respected it. But when he walked off, I took a picture of him from the back. When I went to go show everybody that picture, the picture was there for one split second. Then it was just a black box. And these are interviews in my witness. It was a black box in my phone. I said, "Holy shit." Now did I think about it? You had something that's fucking cute. Maybe your phone just died. (laughing) What do we got on the doc you tell me that? - Okay, so speaking of technology, I saw this post about what Japan has that we got on. - And she goes shooting that Chris. - I'm not shooting. I thought it was interesting though. Japan has a way of turning ordinary things into the surprise of the least smart technology. Japanese technology that doesn't exist in the US. Okay, well they got, what does that even mean? Ultrafine bubble showers. - Japanese shower has now inject nano bubble smaller than. - 0.001 meters. - Into the water to deep clean pour it without using any soap. - No. No, we gotta use soap. - It's not. Give me soap. - I don't even know. - I'm on bike slot. - That's fine. - Automating underground bike silos. The same space Japan uses E-code cycles silos that store your bike in a high speed robotic ball. 12 meters beneath the sidewalk. What's the point of that? - So your bike's on all of the street. - And people can't steal it. - Yeah, but what if you gotta get the fuck alone? In a hurry. - I gotta wait. - Fuckin' bike. - Gotta wait. - You gotta wait on line of 100 other people leaving office to get the bike. - The bike's flat. - That's shit man. - Vibrating ship. - Knife. - The vibrating ship. - That 26 kitchen standard, that vibrates 30 thousand times for a second, the slice through frozen meat, a soft bread with zero physical pressure. - Dumb. - So it's like a chainsaw. - Yeah, he's gone. - The fuck? - This will look many chainsaw. - The bone conduction lollipop. A high index candy that uses your jaw bone to transmit high fidelity music directly to your inner ear while you use it. - That was fine. - Oh, it needs to make that a dick. - Imagine like the cop conduction lollipop. - Yeah, that's a little, that's a vibrator right there. - Like a little lollipop, that's shit. - Like a dick that you could suck on that plays music at the same time. - Yeah. - You know what I'm saying? Little Wayne lollipop playing while you sucking on this mini cock at the bus stop. (upbeat music) - Pocket cancha sniffles. Miniature old factory senses that can detect early stage lung cancha indicators by analyzing just one breath from a user. I like that. That's a good one. But what you supposed to do, once you fucking-- - And then find out that you can't do it. - Like what do you do? (laughing) - Yeah, I go to the doctor. - You can't, doing cancha, breath allows the test. It's crazy. Okay? The wearable voice mask, the soundproof mask that allows you to have a private full volume phone call and a crowded room without anyone nearby hearing a single word. - I knew Chris was like. - All right. That's fly. That's fly. Okay, Taylor. - I guess I was interested. - Little technology segment. - All right, I'm not mad at that. Taylor Tech. TT. TT. Taylor Tech. - What else do you got, Taylor Tech? - What technology would you want, Taylor? Like what's something you would want that would make your life easier? - Definitely. This is where we're called. We can go to one spot to another. - Oh, telephone. - Teleportation. - Teleportation. We fight against that. - Teleportation or invisibility? - You know what I got that already. See, y'all don't be paying attention. Y'all, y'all algorithm is awful. - Where is the telephone? - He's actually not wrong. - Y'all algorithm is awful. There's a congressman. I cannot remember his name. - Yup. - There's a congressman who testified that they already had that there's beings from other dimensions coming through portals and he talked about reverse engineering folding spacetime. What is it that you can pop up wherever? - Yes. - It got that shit now, man. - Well, how can we access it? - It's not gonna give it to us. Maybe another 30. - That would be nuclear war if they gave it to us. - What do you think? - Well, if we're the only ones that have it and we can just appear inside Gigi Ping's house when he's by himself, do whatever we want to him and then just be back in America. - Right. - It would be a thing that's in there. It would be regulated, right? - What should be regulated? - Because to me, something like that is like Wi-Fi. Where the fuck did Wi-Fi come from? What is Wi-Fi? - Yo, I'm with you. - Why, what is Wi-Fi? We don't really fucking know, but for whatever reason, it's in certain areas and certain areas, it's not. - What about those things where you charge your phone just by laying it on it? - Now you see what I'm saying? - How the fuck does it do that? - No, how the fuck does it do that? - Tell me how it does it. - Me. - I got my case on. - I was doing that. It's like, I put it right here, it goes through the case. - Wi-Fi, gluten, Dubai chocolate. Where did this shit come from? (laughing) - Where did this shit come from? - It's a great question. - All of a sudden, this shit just takes over our lives and we don't ask no questions, like, why the fuck are everybody eating green chocolate? All of a sudden, when I was in Dubai, I didn't see Dubai chocolate. Now all of a sudden, this Dubai chocolate. - No, that's a good point. - What the fuck, yo? - Do you guys believe in vinyl records? - Huh? - Vinyl records. - No. - I've been thinking about it. It doesn't exist. - I don't think they ever did any of that shit. - Let's break it down, Chris. - Wait, yeah, what? - Bound. - So vinyl records are supposed to be the sounds that the band records are basically relayed through thousands of thousands of microscopic roofs on. - It's fucked up. - The moment you start speaking, they both pick up the phone. (laughing) - And I'm looking at the screen, what the fuck are you talking about? - Oh, I was also looking up in the screens. - Let me see the screens. I was looking up vinyl, vinyl, what did they say? What did they say? - What did they say? - You still didn't explain it, Chris? You said, what now? - I lost my mojo. (laughing) - Fucking Alex, man. How would you teleport it into his fucking mind? It's hell. I don't listen to this too, bro. - Yeah, no, man. - Looking at our phones with Chris talk. - God damn, man. - See, I'm explaining it for the audio experience. - I was fucked up that we posted it. - No, I was looking it up, bro. - I was counting on you to keep paying. - I was listening, I wanted to hear what he was talking about. You said vinyl, I'm lying, I don't know. - I was looking up a great fill up, Chris. I'm be honest with you, Chris, I was looking up with Taylor. I wanted to mix up the great fill up. The guy who was appointed to the lead office of response and recovery, claimed that in January, 25, he was teleported 50 miles to a walk out in a row. - The number two official at the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Greg Phillips, claimed that he has been involuntarily teleported twice, once to a waffle house. I was with my boys for some time. And I was telling I was gonna go to waffle house. And I ended up at a waffle house like 50 miles away from where I was. I said, that's not possible. You just left here, like, where do I want to go? - I was listening though. It wasn't like I wasn't listening, Chris. I just know how to multitask. - I don't. - You can't say more than one word. He said like two sentences. - I did hear him. He said that vinyl is what artists said to sound, the music sounds like, (laughing) - You don't gotta, you don't gotta do all that, right, bro? Hey bro, you don't gotta do all that. (laughing) - Yo, you gotta watch Chris sip this coffee. - That was the information, Chris. - You gotta watch the sip his coffee right now, man. - Yeah. (laughing) - This is hopeless, man. - This is hopeless, man. - Chris, that was good if a major Chris. Thank you very much. That's that's that our reaction had nothing to do with the information you were given, okay? I wanted to hear the rest of it. Okay. We'll circle back to it later. Okay. We'll see. That's a good vinyl We'll circle back. You got a circle back. That was intentional You got a circle back. What else we got Taylor gay? Gang man, y'all care about the ice man. Yo, yes, let's go. What is it? Drop it Taylor the day before my birthday. What a hoe, but yeah. God. Yeah, that's a good Hey, that was a good hey Taylor. That was a nice there. The best eight is just needless unnecessary shots. Yeah. Okay, the day before my birthday, what a hole. Like God, like I was a drink even knew that like a drink. I'm gonna drop this ice man the day before Taylor's birthday, okay? What is the what is like the creative here? I think it's a promotion. I think it's a good promotion though. I think it's fantastic. He sent up a bunch of ice blocks and then inside one of the ice blocks has I think an envelope that says the release date. Yeah, I think it's so the people have to destroy all the ice until they get to that. Yeah, yeah. I don't know how to wait for it to melt and then they find out, but then some people, people don't wait in bro. They came there with Flamethrowers pitch, pitch, pitch, I love it. The reason I love it is because nobody does rollouts anymore. Everybody think they fucking Beyonce. Yeah. From 10 years ago and they drop, drop, drop, drop. And it's like nah, I do a motherfucking rollout. Like and like and the funny thing is I see people on social media saying, man, fuck all these all these gimmicks in these antics. This dropped the motherfucking music. Let us build it up a little bit man. It used to be a time where people used to build things up. They would do proper rollouts. And the reality is Drake can't afford, he's not going to flop, but he can't afford anything less than crazy, crazy numbers because of the social media narratives that's going to happen if he don't. Yeah. And who are they saying here? I hate this track for Kendrick and maybe Jay Cole. Nobody want to hit it and I'm seeing that. Nobody want to see your real, real girlfriend try. They ain't no circle in the block. Just go ahead and make your records for the club. You don't have to go into the lead. Like keep it moving. Nobody want to see you circle the block. You lost. And by the way, that's what I was always telling folks when he came to Drake. He's still Drake, but you lost a rap battle. That's it. Keep it moving. Now, only person that made this situation worse after the fact was you with the lawsuits and everything else. Please, Drake, two years later for the love of God, not trying to circle the block. Okay. You lost. It is what it is. Keep it moving. That's it. What do you think had the best album roll out in recent times? Three people with me, the clips, Cardi B. And I like what Drake's doing right now. I like what Drake's doing. Cole, Cole added, Cole added decent roll out as well. But Cardi's roll out was fantastic because Cardi was actually doing the same thing. She was nuts. She was out on the block. I can like, she was selling her CD on the screen. She had her music being delivered through Uber Eats, the door dash of one of those. The clips just because they, they, they, they, they walk to scroll. They went everywhere. Like, they actually showed, say they were Cardi, Cardi showed up to a lot of different media outlets as well. Like, yo, act like your music is valuable. Act like it's worth something. Like, don't just spend all this time in the studio and then just go out and just drop. I agree. Like, make it an event. If you believe in your shit and you think it's great, why not promote it? Make it an event. The reason everybody looks at music like it's disposable nowadays because nobody without like the music is a little bit. You just throw it out like it's disposable. You like fucking. So if you like fucking, I'm like, fuck it. I'm a little too at one time and keep it moving. I do hate the narrative though that everybody is like, oh my God, the game is so boring without Drake. You're saying that. Things are things without the same without Drake. That conversation's out there, but you know why it's such a wack narrative? Why is that? Because Drake ain't going nowhere. They just put out a album. Why are we acting like the party next door? I'm didn't come out. Why are we acting like he didn't drop mad singles over the last couple of years? Drake hasn't gone anywhere. No cure was just last year. Why are we acting like that? That was 2025. Really? No. When did that album come out? Taylor, look it up. The Drake and party next door. I'm just sexy songs for you. 2024 was the beef. Yeah. Some sexy songs for you. What was the other shit he had to walk on Delaya? Well, I'm going to love this shit like that. He's been putting out mad music. Like we acted like he wasn't putting out music. Like cut it out. He just wasn't sticking. Yeah. But no cure was a big record. Yeah, no cure. Baby girl. I cut it out. Stop. Who's that album? I'm 2025. What's Switmuff? Forever. Yeah. You see what I'm saying? I'm like, stop. I hate them. I hate these narratives that people create online and folks just run with because of a feeling. Nobody ever just stops and says, well, I don't make any sense because he's been putting out music for the last two years. Where is he going? Where is he going? When people talk about that, oh, there's no hip hop on the charts. There's reasons for that. Why is that? People aren't making the type of records that the charts want. Charting is about streaming, sales, and radio space. You get those three things? You get records that chart. I also think it's like culture, right? Like culture asks for different things. Like the white boy indie rock bands are popping right now. And they're having their moment. And I don't know if that's like a, there was a moment where country was really having them on. Maybe like, did you feel that maybe two years ago, like everything was a kind of country song. The country songs are popping. It would be unsafe when she dropped it. Of course. But it's like right now, maybe like the white boy indie rocker shit is popping. And maybe the pendulum is swung in that direction. And who knows how long it stays over there. But also the chart is just one metric. The number one, the number one streamed genre in America is still hip hop in R&B. Sure, sure. The number two streamed genre in the whole world is still hip hop in R&B. Number one is pop. And so that, and even that's gets you right. The top is everything. I'm more just saying like, there's moments in time where like EDM is super popular. Everybody's getting behind that. There's moments where different genres are going to be more popular than others. And I think this feels like the first moment in our lives where hip hop isn't, or in the last two decades where hip hop isn't the only pop culture driving for two years ago. We was having the same conversation two years. I think that's when it started. Yeah, two years ago before the Kendrick Drake beef, which everybody says is the reason hip hop isn't charting. I don't think that's the reason why it's charting. But I think that that was like a massive zenith, right? Like for the genre. And like you can't, there's no way that it wasn't it can be more. Thank you so much. There's no way that it can be more popular than that. Like when Drake and Kendrick were beefing, I don't know if there was ever a time in history where rap music was more talked about was in more conversations was more digested. Right? I can. You can. Yes. When? Once it's time. Oh, like we all such win, win, win, win, win. I'm talking about internationally. Yes. Okay. Let's go. Let's go back to the early 2000s. When you had people, you had Eminem, Nelly, Jay Z. Give a look. I'm saying they were all on the charts at one time. But I said, I said in the last two decades, two decades. That's more than two decades ago, early, early 2000, 2026. Also, what I would say is that I don't think that they were as big internationally at that time. Rap music has transcended, transcended nations. Right? Over the last two decades, you go to any part of the world and you're in a club, you're going to hear rap music. I remember when I was living in Barcelona, when I was 20 years old, we had to go to a specific club that played rap music because it wasn't ubiquitous. You didn't just go to the bar and hear it. I don't know the case. Is that true? You're saying like you don't hear Drake at the club or you don't hear really? Their clubs are super segregated. What is bad money? Hip-hop clubs, Spanish clubs, EDM clubs. I think that Drake Henry thing was probably one of the most biggest moments that has been talked about. It had to be. Yes. But overall, cultural, genre-wise, there's been times where the overall cultural, culture of hip-hop was way more. You think? Talked about it. Yeah, I just said 10 artists that was charting selling millions and millions of albums around the world at once. Is there any chance that the reason why hip-hop isn't charting the way it was because of a whole bot situation and the highlight that bots are in the industry and now maybe people have cracked on it? Maybe, but I think it's more so that there's just new metrics for how things are measured. Now, the way that it's modified to that audit, like a billion streams got taken away. Maybe, but also Billboard changed the rules. Remember Billboard changed the rules to where your song can only be on for a certain amount of time. They all change the rules where you don't get credit if you buy merch with the album or whatever. Yeah, they changed a lot of rules. But to Alex's point, there is a version. Now, I would be flabbergasted if the other genres aren't also botting their streams. Like, I imagine like this is a label thing. It's a label thing. I imagine the labels go, and again, you can't bot a shitty song and then it becomes good. But you can bot a song that is good and push it to the top. Yeah. And maybe that was happening and maybe they're not doing that as much. So now it's not as prevalent. But I imagine they also take away the streams from the country you you are the takeaway. from the EDM. So those would go down too. Yeah. Two thousand. They weren't doing it as much. It said it's possible. In 2025, Billboard heavily updated chart rules, the prioritize page screams, clamp down on direct to consumer, sales manipulation, and speed up the removal of older songs from the hot 100. Today also changed the rules as well, but also the charts is just one metric. Like I said, hip hop R&B is still the number one most-stream genre in America, just because it's not charting doesn't mean anything. It just means that all the dots haven't connected for certain artists. You need streams, you need radio sales, and what was the other thing? Yes, screams, radio spins and sales. I also think that the new generation of young hip hop artists has an impact. That's right. The greater culture of music listening. It's coming though. No, I'm sure it is, but what I'm saying is right now we're still listening to guys who are like, they're our age, they're in their 40s. The top guys in the game are the 40s. There's nothing wrong with that, but music is usually dominated by the youth. It's coming, Marco Plus is on the way. Room of Vincent is there, like the Kai cashes of the world, the Chris Patrick's of the world, all of them youngins is right there, and that after the other thing, like you said, there's a new wave of hip hop coming and they're still learning how to connect the dots, but I will tell those kids something. Don't sleep on making records for the radio. Making records for the radio. What about the club? How much do you think the fact that kids don't seem to dance as much factors into it? Because that's how you always would hear, it's going off in the clubs, it's going off in the clubs. Once again, we're using old metrics, right? Chris kids still dance. They just got dancing. It's going to top. They're all going to top. So make records for radio that can be distributed in all places like TikTok and people still dance. Something that slaps in the club is different than something that slaps on your floor. Unally as opposed to doing it in a room by yourself versus. Go listen to a Travis Scott concert live. He's someone who makes music for the live show. The live event ain't going nowhere. No, I'm not saying what I'm saying is there are certain people who curate their music for specific types of events and Travis is making his music for the live event. And when you're at it, it is one of the most engaging live performances you're a feel. I think you could say the same thing about Kanye, like when you were listening to those albums live, I remember being an MSG when he was doing that. How did your Jewish team feel about that? How does that feel when you say things like that? Well, I even think about them. I told him to go home before we talk about Kanye. You gotta get home. There might be a Kanye constant. I was at MSG when he did. What was the moment when he was on the stage that moved? Oh, I was there too. That was the life of Pablo too. That's shit. That shit was fire. And that's pre-Nazi emerged. That was definitely pre-Nazi. So we can enjoy that. Like it was good. I'll tell you something about Kanye, man. Yeah. I think about Kanye probably every couple of weeks and get sad. And I tell you why. Because you know, he's always in the news like he's in the news now, but I think he was just he just went to apologize again, put a million of time. And then he got spotted at some Jewish something. I forgot. Look it up. Tell us some Jewish center or something. Yo, the generational fumble. The generational fumble. And what made me think about it was you saw the report that it said, uh, there's Jewish human rights center. Jewish human rights center. What was the way with the report about the sneakers not selling like they used to? The NBA sneakers. Did you see that? No. Oh, long. Let me look that up. It was. It was. You went? No. Don't lie. Yo, Alex. Alex, I was like, this was so funny. He was like, he was so funny. Yeah. Oh, he live streamed it on YouTube. Oh, why can't you go to a car? I mean, I get the the context, but post-Nazi. You can go if you want to do everything. You got to do it with his opinion. Like, why can we separate the artists? Yeah. Yeah, it said, uh, it said, uh, yeah, can we still watch the Cosby show? I still want to watch the Cosby show. I still watch the Cosby show. I said, then you ought to go watch. Yeah. He says. Nightstock dropped sparks debate over NBA player popularity popularity popularity. And Brian Winhorse was saying that nights, he suggested that night's struggle to sell basketball shoes is partly because current NBA players lack the massive cultural influence of past generation. I think there's two. I think there's two things going on here. I think part of that is true. Like, there hasn't been a transformative talent that is wearing a Nike sneaker in a while. Not an American one. Not an American one, which is important, right? Like, step for underarm. If step was in a pair of Nike's, you would be the greatest selling sneaker in the history of the NBA. Step made underarm, but you know how hard that is? That's more that's a more degree of difficulty in any shot he's ever made. No, I bought him. Yeah. I bought him thinking they would help me with my jumper. See what I'm saying? You want to be like that? It made me understand the impact of Michael Jordan with sneakers. Be like Mike. Yes. Because I saw this guy and I was like, I had ankle issues. He had ankle issues. I can't shoot. He can. And I was like, well, if it fix the ankles, maybe it could fix this. I don't know like I tried it myself. I remember the deep brown pumps. Remember you used to buy the deep brown pumps and pump them up because you thought it would make you be able to die. You all of us was missing the room doing this stupid shit here. And I said, I didn't fall into the grass. Can I say another one? The Nike shocks the Vince Carter with a little boing at the bottom. Oh my god. I see Vince jumping out the gym. I'm like, I got to get a little extra boing. The hilarious part about that is that the boing was on the heel and we took off our toes. I still bought them. So we do. But what NBA player that has a transformative game, the type of game that you want to have, where's a Nike right now? None. None. But I don't think that's it. Right now, the fashion has changed. Well, like right now, Dad's shoe and the low profile shoe is in basketball shoes aren't in right now. But you know why? That is in because the basketball shoes ain't it? Well, I would say there's another reason for that. Nike opened up all the Nike stores, right? And what they started doing is pulling their sneakers out of footlocker. They started pulling all their heat out of the sneaker stores because they were like, we want you to come to Nike towns around the world to buy the Nike sneakers. We want you to buy it on Nike.com or whatever like that. Like why are we selling it to the middleman? And then all those stores that do curate culture started filling their shelves with adidas with new balance. All the sudden there was all these spaces open that they haven't opened for and they came with heat. So honestly, it's on Nike for having the hubits to be like, you know what, they're going to come to us no matter what. And I think that they regret that decision. And retro. I don't think the NBA player has the same status with really young fans. I'm talking like running under I think over time, elite, these are the guys that when I talk to like kids, that's who they're sweating. They're not necessarily sweating, somebody's hurting anymore or somebody like that. It's all these over time, elite stuff. Well Chris, Chris got a point. I will say that I think NBA players are popular. They just don't have as much influence. So like like like like 100% like there's peep. There's so many other people in various industries who have more influence than NBA players. Like there's certain streamers that have more influence. Certain YouTubers. There's, you know, podcasts. There's certain people even still in television and film industry to have more influence than NBA players. And fuck what was the point you were making Chris over time. Different role models. Players that these kids look up to. Yeah, what I forgot. Oh, I think the other thing is LeBron never had a nice speaker. So you have the best player. Yeah, he had one era. What was that? It was the LeBron. And I had a bunch of them. Shit, yo, remember it was the one who's called the LeBron Miami. You know the style I'm talking about with this shit that he had one that was really fire, bro. Honestly, maybe, but like the guys had 20 different pairs of sneakers throughout his career. And there's not a single one that I feel like I missed. But there was there was a time where people were. They were wearing them because he was so good. I think it was six. There was no design that we looked at and we're like, I got to have it. Kyrie had a sneaker that was fire. That's really. But and he had a game that was transformative and everybody was hooping in the Kyrie. So I remember it. They even made the soul like a like a motorcycle tire. It was like curved because they said that his game had so much like side to side movement that he needed traction on the side. They gasped you up so you would buy them. But Nike, you bought those two, you know, you bought a suit. Hey, bro, I'm very susceptible to things that make me better athletically. Where are you? Where are I? AI. If we're being honest, never had a nice looking sneaker. He was so cool. And he was so dominating when it came to cultural influence that we all had the questions. We all had the answers. I had four different pairs of Allen Iverson sneaker. Let me tell you something. Allen Iverson was so cool that I don't even know if I agree with you right now, but I don't know if I disagree what you need. Because I had all of those sneakers, but you thought they were fired. In my mind, I still think they fight. Now, not all of them now that. What number is that? What's that? The V? No, no, no. The fours, right? That one, right? The answer for those black and white and the four and the red and white and the four. Yes, sir. Yes, sir. - There were ones that were like, there was like a metallic blue on the toe. - Nah, man. - Go back, Taylor. - It was a metallic blue. - It was right there. Right there, that one right there, the third one right there, one two, right there. And then the other color way to ran away, was after four, right? - Yeah. - The answer four step over? - Five, yeah, I'll wait, those right now. - You might see me to know this something. - I love AI, he's the fucking goat, but like, yeah, I haven't missed them, bro, I haven't missed. I haven't missed those sneakers. - I don't know, but I don't know if it's 'cause in nostalgia, I will rock the answer four step over, right? - Yeah, nostalgia for sure, and because he was so amazing. - I might rock this. - But if any other, but if any other basketball player of that time, rock these sneakers, I don't know if you're right. - Yeah. - But I don't know if you're wrong. - That's the thing. - I don't know. - You're back in his 50s. - I'm 90. - I'm like, I don't know if he's right. - They're on people that are rockin' Jordans to this day that never watched Jordan play basketball. - 'Cause they, yes, yes. - 'Cause the sneakers were fire, and then after the 12th, Jordans were S. - Yeah, but nobody rocked it. - Jordan after 12. - After 14th. - No, not a 14th. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, put all of Jordan's signature sneakers. Jordan had Jordan, the 14th and the 15th, I believe, was kind of fire. Where's Wano when we need him? - Good. - Wano, where, where, where, when we need him, man? - What sneakers? - The one. - The fight of waves. - So from our last week, we was having a conversation about directors and actors. - Yeah. - So you were after you, if you got eight or nine bangers. - No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - Jordan sneaker, run, who is the most amazing sneaker? - Yeah. - Look at that four, bro, I'll fuck that four, bro. - What the? - Of course, you go both sneaker, man. - I'll put my dick on through that four, bro. - Every Jordan sneaker. - Look at that 13, man. - I'm gonna go with the bottom of that 13th. - I might be, I might be fucked up. - 12th. - Wait, where's the 13s? I might be fucked up, 13th. - That's 12, no, no, no, no. - 13s are five. - What is wrong with that 10th? - The four and the 13th and the 12th. - Pull up the five, you know what a LeBron I liked? - The nine and the 10th. - We'll pull those up next, but the LeBron nine and the LeBron 10th, I used to like those. Those were, those were five. But I'm gonna bring all of this back to Kanye after we do this, you know, but. - I don't know how to, I don't know where I'm gonna go. - Penny's was hard. - No, it's a little hard. - Penny's was that hard too. - Okay, pull up, go to the first one. - Go to the first one. - You, what you were, please, let's have this conversation because I think you brought up a great point that executes exactly what we're trying to say. - Anthony Hardaway, God bless him. Amazing talent. Unfortunately, had some injuries, had an amazing game that we all loved, but the sneakers were so fire. - Yes. - That we didn't care if he was injured or not. There are, there are pennies right now. We don't even call pennies. - You're right. - Remember? - After 99, there was over. - It rolled up to, let's scroll up. - It rolled up to 99, what did the F-15, right? - I don't even think the F-15. - Yeah, that's the F-15. - I think the F-15. - Nobody liked the F-15. - I thought the F-15. - The F-15s were S, I didn't like the F-15s. Girls were where I'm, the F-15s were F-13s, F-13s, F-13s. - The F-13s, it was one through 13, is exceptional. - One through 13 is undefeated. - Exceptional. - 14, the F-15s were crazy. 14 and 15 was kind of fire. I think after 15, it was completely, completely old. But I mean, God damn it. - Once he started doing this stuff where it covers this, shoelays and you have to take it off. - God damn it. - Oh no, no, no, no, those were fire, too though. - With the very last ones. But those are the retro's, right? - Oh, it's like the six rings. - Yeah, but they're just basically recreating all the old ones together. I hated those. - Now, Penny. - Penny was a product of. - What were those pennies called? - The hyper, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. - I hate those. - I hate those. - Oh, phone posits. - We started calling the phone posits once Penny stopped having his influence. But they were pennies. - But you know what else, Penny had? Phenomenal marketing. - Yes, of course. - Phenomenal marketing. - We can remember your mascot. - 100%. - We can remember your fucking mascot, Little Penny. And he was doing it with Chris Ross, - Right. - with him in the voice. It was very reminiscent of Jordan doing the shit with Spike Lee. Like, I mean, Penny's were phenomenal. - We haven't seen a great marketing campaign like that. Those are all-time great sneaker marketing campaigns. LeBron has never had a all-time great marketing campaign to see. - 'Cause I'll be honest, the sneakers don't. - They look like space jam sneakers. - Yeah, it's too like futuristic and weird. You know, if you really look at old Jordan's, they're kind of simple. Look at them. Like, they're kind of simple, like-- - I don't think they're simple. - No, the 11s are a very simple aesthetic, which was the most-- - The most I can't count. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I was-- - The pad leather. - The pad leather. - You wouldn't have thought it at all. - No, of course not. It was a balsy thing to put fucking pad leather on a man's shoe. It was crazy. - No, the deed has had those in the early '80s. - I'm not saying that that would be good. - That was the hottest sneaker before the work. - Oh, it was, okay, got it. - We bought the ones made from vinyl, Chris. - Son, look at the 12s. The 12s, super simple. I honestly think the most popular Jordans are the most simple ones. The ones, super simple. The 11s, the 12s, the 13s even, you see, like, crazy, simple. - You know what's so crazy? I'm sitting here, I couldn't think of designing these sneakers in a million years, but we're calling them simple. I couldn't think of it in a million years. I couldn't do that. - Don't give me-- - I knew what you're saying. I actually think it takes a genius to design something simple and make it look incredible. Less is more. And that's the problem with the LeBron's, in my opinion, it's like, they think more is more. It's too much shit going on. The late Jordans is too much shit going on. - That's a lot going on. There were the fours. Four or so. - Four or so please. - Oh my God, I love them. That's my favorite shit ever, bro. And by the way, they were always a statement piece. If you had those on, somebody was going to give you a compliment somewhere. I mean, you know, you certain areas, you was going to get robbed. But you know, the first time I ever met Killer Mike, that's how the conversation started. He was wearing them. - I was wearing them. I was wearing the fours. He was like, I had the, what is it called? The concrete four, the semen fours or something like that. And I was in Columbus, I could line. And he was like, what's up man? He said, yo, I like them sneakers. And I'm thinking to myself, hope you don't ask me what my size is. - Bro, I got asked. - I got asked me. - Subway was size. - Why? - Because that's when they ready to take them off your feet. - You think it's going to rob you for your feet? - If you do certain things, you don't want to hear. You don't want to hear where I'm from in the McDonald's. - It sound like, you know what I mean? - I don't know man. - It sound like, tell me shout it just because you're with a rapper. - Do you think he's going to rob you, bro? - No, I had to. - Damn, dude, that's crazy, man. - Yo, that was the, that was the error. - Killer Mike, that was the error back then, man. - I guess your point, man. - But I bought, we bought all of that up to have the conversation about, when you talk about the last person who moved you to buy sneakers like a Steph Curry, who moved you to buy sneakers like a Michael Jordan, who made you want to get those phone positives 'cause of Penny, it wasn't even a ball player. It was Kanye fucking back. - You right? - Yep. - I think you had, no, you're right. - In a chokehold, every age from eight to 80. - You're going. - We're going high school, middle school camp going and see kids in the slides. You see older guys like us in the slides and in the dad's shoe and then NBA players started wearing the Yeezy's on the basketball court. Kanye West would have had the NBA in a chokehold with his sneakers. I guarantee you by now, you would have, you would have did this. - No, no, no, who was wearing his sneakers on the. - Oh, I forgot, look at that. - Let's face red, the red October. He's a big sneaker head too. - But that's when he was doing the Nike joint. - I know, I know. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Tucker, yeah. But somebody had, somebody wore the Yeezy's in the game. It wasn't those Yeezy's right there with another, what's his first thing? And no, he did those Yeezy's, the elephant looking once. You know who were those? Gilbert Reenis's boy, he played for the Lakers. Swaggy P. Nick Young. But you know by now, Kanye would have already had, he would have designed a basketball sneaker. But I think everybody in the league would have been wearing it. - But you made the greatest point. It would, we watched the influence, the fashion and cultural influence shift from athletes to actual fashion influences. - Yes. - And I think like the internet democratized influence in a way where it's like, okay, if I want to dress a certain way, now I have people who I think dress cool and I could imitate their shit, that's available to me. Before that, we really had that much of that. Like think about that growing up. It was like, you had NBA players and you're like, well, that's what I want to be. I want to play in the league and I want to dress like the guys that play in the league. Now we have NBA players to model our game after. We have fashion influencers to model our outfits after. We have musicians that have specific music tastes that we want to replicate or like play when we're at home. Everything is broken up. - Mm-hmm. Yes. - Mm-hmm. - And Nick, you're right. Nick Young, Wardier, Dietis, Yeezy, Boo, 755, 100 in the game. Montreas, Harold, Wardier, Dietis, Yeezy, QNTM, Basketball, Sneaker in the game, PJ Tucker, Wardier, Night Air, Yeezy, Booz, Night Robinson, Wardier, Night Air, Yeezy, Booz, the only one for a quarter though. This one, he was with Night. And then they made Dietis, Yeezy, QNTM, Basketball, Sneaker, which was designed specifically for performance basketball. You know how many of those they would have made by now? - Bro. - And being that there's no NBA player in the league who has a chokehold on things. Kanye would have absolutely had a chokehold on the NBA. So I'm not even gonna sit here in front. I think about things like that. And I get sad. I'm like, yo, that was a general, rational, bad form. bowl, not even just from the money aspect. You know how hard it is to capture culture, bro. - Thanks. - The capture culture, especially in the sneaker game, and you don't even got a wicked jump shot? - Yeah, that's good. - You ain't dunking on nobody, but you've captured culture. He would have had everybody from just regular lifestyle to motherfucking the NBA. - I wonder if it's the same level of influence that Rundee MC had with the shelter. - Rundee MC wished they had, and I would say this respectfully. They wished they had the influence. - But you don't think when they were rocking the Sheltoes, and they did that arrows, and you know, and like, - No. - You don't think when we were young, young, or even the generation before us saw that, and they were like, this is the coolest shit I'm rocking Sheltoes. - It was, but it's a different level. That was them wearing something that they made cool as opposed to creating something that-- - The Sheltoe was an old sneaker, it was Kareem's signature. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - And around since the mid-70s. - Yeah, making something from scratch, and making it the thing that people want to wear. - Jordan was, I remember with the week that the first Jordan's dropped. - Crazy. - And it was crazy, 'cause I was really into sneakers at the time. And then everybody had them, and then it got corny. It was more like a niche thing. Like, oh, there weren't real sneaker heads yet. It was like the first generation. So I was into a La Jouanne, had a crazy pair, of sneakers. - Sneakers. - Yeah, the jeans. - They were converse, right? - No, the converse was Dr. J. Larry Bird. - Bird. - And then Hakeem had the tonics, which were nuts, like a kind of purple and white thing, and Lotto had a map sneaker. They had a map in New York City on it that was-- - Oh, Lotto. - Oh, the sneaker company? - Yeah, yeah. - Lotto, it is dick in your mouth. - Lotto. - That was so good. - That was an assist. - That's it. (all laughing) - We got that in all of you. - I got half of that one. (all laughing) - If you want to have to dig take it, Craig. - Listen. - I do the loop. (all laughing) But no, in the ill thing about Kanye, Kanye wasn't just about style, our performance. They were comfortable. - Yeah. - Like back, I can't think of any of those sneakers we threw on back then, 'cause it was comfortable. It was all because of style. - Yeah. - You threw on Kanye, you threw on the slide. - The foam run. - The foam, oh my god. Yeah, you can wiggle your toes and then you shit. Like, then the shit was calmed. - You know who had a first figure. Charles Barkley had a, like, CB 34s. - Yes, yes, yes. - Those were the red ones in the black ones. Yes, man. - I always had a couple of sneakers. - I had, I interviewed Dr. J the day. That shit was good. - Oh, wow. - Yeah, that shit was crazy. - How'd that go? - That's cool. - It was dope. I rarely, like, FaceTime, my pops would do a video for my pops, but I had to show them, like, you, Dr. J. You don't even fuck about none of these hip tops. - What did you say? - I said, hip to the hip top rappers. But he said, he said, that's the doctor. (laughing) 'Cause you know, when we were coming up and we still was watching Michael Jordan, you know, we was raving over Michael Jordan. Your dad or somebody would be like, you like him, you need to go see Goddamn, Dr. J. You need to go watch Dr. J. You know, Dr. J, he's still smooth. - Is he? - Oh, man, just so he had Lauren's mom wet. - She was saying? - Yeah. (laughing) - It was mom, Delaware. I mean, just respectfully. I love her. - I know, like, what the hell? - That's where I was trying to think of another word. My brain was like, no, you're going to say what? You're going to say what? My, my, I was trying to think of something else to say and my brain was literally like, no, no, no. But if you know Lauren's mom, you would understand why you're, my brain was there, you're going to say what? She's really like, whoa. - That's so even working. - No, she's cool. - If you know what I mean, right, Taylor? - She's cool. - I can make these jokes with her. Like when I started a day and I was like, yo, you saw Dr. J and she was like, mm, when I said, why are you looking your lips? Why are you looking your lips? She said, I saw that fine. (laughing) You know what I'm saying? So that's why. But yes, 'cause they're she from Delaware. - What? - What's that got to do with it? - That's right. - It's the Philly. - Oh, yeah, it's like, come on, man. Dr. J probably didn't ran all through Delaware. I Philly, tell her what that's true. - Oh, that's true. That's true. - Dr. J? - Yeah. - Y'all, y'all, y'all got to go back in Google, man. Dr. J was out in the office and before I was in office. What a state in the union they say. - You see what I'm saying, man. You see what I'm saying, man. Come on. All right, let's face it a bit. - I always say, well, why were on the talk of Michael Jordan and all that? Did you see this? - Luke's Jordan, bro. Now what happened? - Jordan is dominating the NASCAR. We ain't nobody really talking about it, y'all. They worried about the wrong shit, like they worried 'cause he grabbed, you know, Tyler Reddick's neck. Like, yo, I'm the owner of the team. Yeah, I can have you run your neck and give you a kiss. Thank you. You just want us, our fifth mother fucking, you know, NASCAR championship this year. - You do that too, like, my main does that to me. My main doing that to another one. - That's Michael Jordan. Do you have a break up we got talking about his sneakers? - Michael Jordan is walking here right now. Grab us all around the neck, kiss us on the forehead. - I said. - He like, that's MJ, yo. Rub us on our head, like a little boy. - You know what I mean? - I was watching that. I'm like, yo, I think he could do that to me in front of my wife. (laughing) I think I might be all right with it. I think I might be all right with it. - I can't think. - I'd probably be like, yo, we're not washing this hat. - I can't make it too many people of any race, gender, size, color, tree that Michael Jordan couldn't do that. And anybody gonna say shit and y'all know y'all. - Come on. - I can enjoy walking with one of you. Grab everybody's neck, kiss us on your fucking hat. Give you a little shake and walk off. - Big old hand. You like, yo, that was MJ, bro. - Big old hand, he grabbed that whole throw. - It's a fucking shot. - Would you let Jordan take the ice out your shorts? - What? - Yeah, of course. - You know what I'm talking about, yeah. - Trying to take the ice out of the kitchen. - I ain't what you talking about. You talking about that little boy that was in the kitchen. Remember, you've seen that video when he sticking nice up his ass and the mama walking. Mama, mama, I'm hot. (laughing) - Mama, you're hot. - You ain't never seen that Taylor. You ain't never seen the mama, I'm hot. - Oh, mama, yeah. - Yeah, yeah. (laughing) - You never saw that video? - Yeah, you'll find that video, mama, I'm hot. Mama, I'm hot. You never seen that video, man. The little boy is in the kitchen. - You need that all. - Into the refrigerator. This is all old in that classic. - And this is the second time, kind of recently, Jordan. Just a little handsy. You never seen this in my head. - He's like, oh, not active. Look who it is. - What are you doing? - Look. - Go to your father's house. Go to your father's house. - He is here the first time. - So, go to your father's house. (laughing) - What are you doing? - I'm hot. - Yo. - Just look at this. - This is like a climate change. - Look at this comment right here. - What? - So this is on his Jordan video. Driving this clip is Denny Hamlin, who is the co-owner of MJ's NASCAR team. Denny also drives full time for Joe Gibbs racing. Denny was about to win this race before the caution came out setting up over time in which Denny choked the win away and 23 11 driver Tyler Redick snagged his fifth win of the year. Denny and MJ talked smack and did so before the race. Y'all are ready way. He meant to put it really. - Y'all really, really ready to party to this. - So he lost and MJ's put in salt in the man. - Yeah. - Oh, so he choked him. - So he gave him the choke. - Wow. - This motherfucker is diabolical. - Michael and then rubbed his head. - Michael Jeffrey Jordan. - Don't forget. - Never forget. - Never forget who the fucking gold the ball gold is. Okay, that's Michael Jeffrey Jordan. Stop playing with him. - Generational talent. - Generational man. - Michael never fumbled, bro. - Never. - Never fumbled. - Not even with baseball, low key. - Nah, 'cause you would wear that jersey right now. If somebody came in, if they put it, if they put the Jordan Barron's retro jersey up for sale which it might be already, everybody runnin' to get that shit right. Come on, man. All of that shit was moments in time. He does what the fuck he wants to do when he wants to do it, man. Shout out to MJ. - He didn't need to do the wizard to run. - He was good. - He didn't, but we don't remember that. - I low key as an adult, as like a 40 year old. I only like watching old people do shit now. I don't like watching kids do shit. I like watching like 42 year old skateboard. Like I watch Bam Margera skateboarding now, you know, Bam from back S. And it is so enjoyable. - Bam gotta be 50 something now, right? - I think Bam is like orange. Anyway, point is, I'm 47, bro. He's 47? - I'm 47. - All right, you a little older. (laughs) But the point I'm trying to make is like, I can't imagine what it must have been like as a 40 year old back then. Seeing the goat come back and still drop 40 some games and still put up numbers. Like, yeah, maybe you didn't dominate the league, but like the fact that he's competing with these young guys and bullying him and like is still effective. - I guess, yeah. - It's like a fork as a fucking adult. - And also too, he act like he just came back, you know, to play with the wizards 'cause he was scratching the itch. He was part of one of the team. He was trying to instill a culture into the squad. I love what Jay, he said, Michael Jordan, I played for the team on own. Like that shit was different. - Did you want to sell it to? - Hey, but who cares? You weren't throwing it in the narrative. - Why throwing it in the narrative? - Throw it in the narrative. - Let's play some bills, man. (upbeat music) - Pessie, you got some church announcements? - Yes, sir. Ski, I got some shows coming up. up man. I'll be in Tampa this weekend man. Thank you guys for selling out. I think Denver sold out. Uh, Salt Lake sold out, but we're going to do the Netflix is a joke. Fast me jelly roll. And we just added a bunch of comics onto that. So make sure you check that out. Might be a few tickets left for that. That's May 8th in Los Angeles. We just added a Virginia beach as well. June, I think 5th and 6th. So go check those shows out and we're going to be announcing us some more shows soon for this summer and into fall. And then maybe another cool announcement that I don't know if I could say just now. Um, this Saturday, salute to everybody. I will see at the fourth annual Black Effect podcast festival in Atlanta, Georgia, man. We will be there from 11 a.m. to 7 p.m. at Pullman Yards. I love the Black Effect podcast festival. He said it's a family affair, but it really is, man. Um, drink champs is going to be on that stage. My guys, N O I E DJ, E F and they will be in conversation with a C low green. And I hope C low brings the rest of the goodie mob since we in Atlanta and came a shell came a shell will be on on drink champs live on that stage as well. Um, Crystal Renee Hey slett with the keep it positive, sweetie podcast. She will be in conversation with young Miami. There was a Croatia, please keep it positive, sweetie, mashup. Um, my guy, Deante Kyle and Big Ice Cup cat, the Grizzanakes podcast. They're going to be there as well. Carlos King with reality with the King is going to be there a Jeff Teague in the club. Five 20 podcasts is going to be there and Mona big Mona. Don't call me white girl. She'll be there as well. So we'll see you bright and early 11 a.m. to 7 p.m. And listen, um, we always start with the bang like, you know, these, these, these podcasts are all heat. So we're starting the show 11 o'clock on the dot. Well, no, actually around 12, 12 right 12 o'clock, uh, with Grizzanakes podcast. So you're going to want to be in the building. Okay. Grizzanakes podcast starting right at noon. Um, I got Roger Carufe. He's got the rate, the NASCAR race car simulator out there for the kids to play around then we got to pitch your podcast booth. All the vendors, all the food, trumps, everything you want is hosted by DJ and being Laura LaRosa. And we'll see you this Saturday. It's still a few tickets left. You can go to blackspec.com/podcast festival, uh, to get your tickets. And we'll see you Saturday in ATL short. Hey, don't find me too. I'm going to be giving interviews and everything. Taylor going to be out there doing something. What they got you doing, Taylor? I'm going to be hosting the stream. So I'm going to be out there on the stream. Hopefully, Taylor don't get us in no trouble. Are you live streaming the whole day? I don't know. I don't know. I'm going to get you all in trouble. I know it ain't you. I'm worried about it. Other people in the crowd. What you going to do if somebody dropping 90s, gay slur for no reason, but I can put it out there. It's live streamed. I think why that? What are you talking about? Why do you say that now? People think about doing it. They might end up just the game. We in you just never know. People look crazy. Our people are crazy. Yeah. Please don't do that. When you all rep us club stream, a brand new screen like we ain't a little bit of stream, but our people are crazy. We came at energy for real. I can't go live every week. I show live on Sunday every week. I do not drop that little dick joke that they like to play with me because I don't know the joke race. You just dig Joe. You're telling them all. Tell me tell me tell me all of that. Tell me what's the dick joke. Shut up. A bunch of them. It's all of them. Yo, what's up yo? And tell me you look like a lot old. I don't know how to dig it y'all that type of shit like that. Play with me for what? You can't do that. That's a human. No, I don't. But I'm a fiasco now with a mother in a mother. No. You're a fiasco now and a mother. I'm a fiasco now and a mother. Give me something. What? Who's dropping on your book, your privilege? Oh, Jessalaya. Jessalaya has to be out too. Let's go. Jessal will be out Tuesday with tell deaf. Do we parent? Okay. Her book will be out this Tuesday everywhere you buy books. You can still pre-order it right now via black privilege publishing some and it shoots the man. So yeah, for all you people out there that are co-parenting. Okay? Like, you know, you've moved on to other relationships, but you're still cool. You're baby. Mother's still cool with your baby father and y'all have figured out a way to properly co-parent. That is the story she is telling. She's telling the story of co-parent and with her baby daddy wrong. But y'all, she's married to my guy. Tell you a secret. Is the Munchin clip, please? She caught it. She caught it quick. She smiled immediately. I am not showing me. What about the tuck her clip? You got the tuck her clip? You got the tuck her? What do we think of tuck her calls it, man? You said tuck her. Like, if you just fed it regular, you think so? Yeah. Emphasize it too much and you gave it away. I don't know how that would work. I don't even know if that works. That's what I'm saying. You know, you know, tuck her? I don't even know what to go with it. Tuck her a dick in your mouth. That's not working. Yeah. Well, no, you could be sucking a trans dick. You could. That's, yeah, that could work. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Progressive. That's right. That's right. What do we think? What's tuck her up to? Tuck her is saying that he is tormented by his past support for Trump. And he won't, he apologized for misleading people on Trump. Let's play the clip, play the clip tale. Looking back, being because, I mean, you and I and everyone else who supported him, you wrote speeches for him. I campaigned for him. We're implicated in this for sure. Yes. It's not enough to say, well, I changed my mind or like, oh, this is bad. I'm out. It's like it's very small ways, but in real ways, you and me and millions of people like us for the reason this is happening right now. Yes. So I do think it's like a moment to wrestle with your own consciences. You know, we'll be tormented by it for a long time. I will be and I want to say I'm sorry for misleading people in, it was not intentional. That's all I'll say. But anyway, but the question does present itself immediately like, what is this? Was this always the plan? You don't want to be a conspiracy nut, but like clear, there were signs of low character. We knew that. What are thoughts? What do you think? Oh, I have a few thoughts, you know, I don't have a problem with him doing that, you know, if that's how he feels, like truth is truth, right? Like if that's your honest feeling, say it. I see a lot of people questioning whether it's sincere or not. I don't think that matters. The reason I don't think that matters is because if I'm a democratic operative, all I needed that clip, I got what I want for the midterms and I got what I want for the election in 2028 because he didn't say he's not Maga. He said he's just not with Trump. He saying Trump isn't doing the Maga shit. Exactly. So that, and if you know Tucker is one of the people who definitely championed JD Vance, right? He definitely wanted Trump to put JD Vance's BP. Me personally, I don't want anybody that was anywhere close to this administration, you know, in office in the future. So what happens in the midterms? What happens in 2028 is Tucker going to actually look for people who have real policies that want to benefit all Americans and actually put money in all Americans pockets. Is he really want somebody that's actually a little pro democracy? It's an interesting question. Or does he want somebody that's going to, that went along with this because coming to 2028, I'm just putting this clip up. If he endorses any of the opposition and saying, you're really going to listen to this guy. If he endorses the opposition, if he endorses a JD Vance or, well, that's, oh, you're saying. If I'm a Democrat, and he's endorsing any of the opposition, I'm saying you're going to listen to him when he got it so wrong. Because again, think about it. You make a great point, which is he's saying this administration is not doing anything that he thought they were going to do. He can't pay him for them to do that. He endorsed that he raised money. He gave speeches like he was on that ask, not simply supporting it. Now they're not doing it. So that goes for the whole administration, the whole administration. So if he then goes and endorses these other people that were complicit and all the fuck shit that's happening, this is them. Where does he actually lie? Absolutely. Unless JD Vance doesn't pull a Kamala and say, she's, or he's for everything that the previous administration. Well, even to that, I would say a decent himself and Trump administration finishes badly the way it's going. Who they, well, even to that, I would say, why should keep that same energy while you're next to him in office? Yeah. I think that was one of the biggest issues people have with Kamala. It's like, first of all, you're saying nothing about Gaza at all. You're in office while it's happening. You don't say anything. I mean, when you're campaign, you don't even say anything about it. So it's like, it's hard to believe that you think anything's going to change when the people in power and the people that are funding it have said that they're not going to make any statement that's going to be any different. If you're JD Vance, none of that looks strong. If Trump party gets put out the past, I feel like he does it in little bits currently now, like even with Iran right now, he's like, oh, that's it. Slip like, publicly he doesn't really do it privately. He's probably saying like, he's leaking. Oh, he's absolutely leaking. But to me, that's not enough. That's enough. JD, JD has You think that's enough? - No, I don't think so. JD has to sound like Tucker, bro. JD, you gotta sound like Megan Kelly. You gotta be so opposed to everything that's going on in the administration. You can't stand by them and leak, bro. You can't do that. - No. - You can't do the double speak right now. - The leak in his pussy, man. Like, I mean, I can leak in his pussy. It's discharge, it's discharge, bro. - Oh, man. - The pussy. - Not from Delaware, bro. - Well, that's a great deal. I'm just saying, it is, it is though, right? Like, think about it. 'Cause you're basically trying to like, keep up with the Joneses, maintain the audience that still supports it, while refuting it. When the ballsy thing to do is like outright object it. And I think people will probably respect that because clearly the base is not happy. - Yes. And the only other, I don't have, I think that if Tucker feels this way, anybody feels this way, they should be, they should be, they should say that. But the only other problem I have with this, is why there's nobody step down, that's was weird. - I mean, people like who? - Who, who, what do you mean? - Joe Kent is the only one that stepped down. But he's not part of the Trump administration, right? He has his job previous. - Well, you know what this is, man, now they put him in there. - I don't think Trump will like it. - Did you see the op-ed in the Hill? The op-ed in the Hill that says if Donald Trump wants to even remotely try to save his legacy, he should resign and say it's for health reasons. It was op-ed that came out this week. I forgot who wrote that, Chris, did you see who wrote it? Yeah, it was op-ed that came out and said, if he wants to even remotely try to preserve his legacy. - He's not stepping down. - He should step down and say it's for health reasons. But the only other problem I have with this, Tucker calls the clip is he said that it wasn't intentional. Tucker was too close to Trump for years. I mean, I mean, I'm going back to when he was on Fox News. Like, he was too close to Trump so that it was not intentional. - You're implying here that Tucker knew the Trump wasn't gonna do any of the shit that he said he was gonna do. I'm saying that Tucker knew enough about Trump's bullshit. He, he, in those leaks that came out for that - You're saying the voting machine shit. - Not the voting machine shit when Fox got sued. - Yes. - There's literally Tucker Carlson to say and I hate this guy. - Yeah, so you're saying, you're saying he knew enough to not trust him but chose to trust him. - Yes, he said, even in this clip he goes, we knew there was signs of low fire. - Is that him Tucker Carlson who's hitting up Hunter Biden behind the scenes? - No, he didn't up Joe asking for it. - Yeah, I need to get my kid into Georgetown. - Yeah. - Can you write me a letter? - Yeah. - It's all performative with this guy. - Yo, he literally said, let me get the exact quote. He literally said, I hate Trump. - Right, so if you're a democratic strategist right now, right? And you see this. Are you, what is the, what is the move right here? - Well, it's a difficult, it's a good question, right? What's the move with a Marjorie Taylor Greene? What's the move with all? - No, you don't have to make them a hero by any means. - But you want to amplify that. - But you could be like, oh wow, the walls are closing in. - Right. - How do we capitalize when the wall's closing in? - That's this, that's the smart thing. - It's tough though, 'cause you take a guy like Tucker, yes, he's saying that he regrets what he did. He's also really promoting a very heavy, like, white nationalist agenda, right? - No, you don't bring in somebody who you're not aligned with, right, 100%, but you do use it as an emphasis that even the people within the party. Because that is a kind of, yeah, that is a, - These quotes aren't for opposition. These quotes are for the party. - The base. - The other Republicans, the other Maga, like, look, even guys like Tucker Carlson, who championed them, who probably was influenced by the even subordinates. - Our championship. - Our championship, that's what that's for. Listen, when two years ago, when I say something like, I regret voting for Biden, right? Why did I say I regret voting for Biden? Because I saw where things were going. I was seeing the public sentiment of the people. I saw here how you fucked up the border. I saw how the economy was trash and how people were feeling about it. And if Donald Trump was going to be, which we see here is the threat to democracy that everybody was saying he was going to be, this guy can't beat him. You know what I'm saying? This guy cannot beat him. So when I expressed that, what did the right do? - Amplified. - Amplified it. Amplified it. They didn't amplify that for their people. - Amplified it for the opposition. - Absolutely. - Do you think that's what Democrats should do right now? - Easy, easy call. And once again, I want to talk about Carlson. 2021 private text. Following the January 6th, 2021 Capitol riot, text messages released during the Dominion voting system was lawsuit against Fox News, revealed that Carlson told a producer, I hate him, Trump passionately. And I can't handle much more of this. So he can't say it wasn't intentional. If I say I don't fuck with you, I hate you. But then I purposefully drive people towards you and stand by you. It's intentional. That's an intentional choice. - But the thing is he gets caught so many times like being fake like back of Fox News when you show the text messages and now he's like jumping ship. Like he's a grifter, but for some reason, he still keeps the trust of his base. - Because the new cycle is so fragmented. I keep telling you this for every time you, I can pull up clips of him probably contradicted himself. But then I can also pull up clips like this. - It's about, you know what I mean? - I think it's about, again, I don't know, I don't know. But like, to me, I think it's about like when you're getting what you want from someone, you don't really question the other things that are happening. Right? So it's like, if, if for example you're a Persian American, you want to see the liberation of your family in Iran, you probably hate a bunch of things that Trump is doing. But in this specific thing, you're going, I'd really like my grandma and grandpa to be able to like live free, that'd be awesome. So all of a sudden, you're supportive of this thing despite hating a bunch of other stuff that's going on. And I'm sure that's where like a lot of Democrats that like were supportive of Kamala, I'm sure they were like, it's really horrible what's happening in Gaza. But they're these other things that I would really like to see not happen. So they were able to kind of like, you know, put more priority or put more of their emphasis on certain things. And that's the difficult thing about voting for somebody, right? You inevitably are supporting something. Like, I imagine when you voted for Kamala, you weren't voting for Gaza to be destroyed. You loved it so much, but you did vote for it. (laughs) You know what I mean? - Yeah, 'cause you didn't want America to be the power. - You prioritized other things. - Yeah, you didn't want it. Like that's the administration of power, that's the administration paying for it. - But we also didn't want American democracy to fail. - So you prioritize that over it. - 100%. Of course, I don't think you want any of that thing. But this is the dynamic when there's two options. You're inevitably are gonna have to support some shit that you've vehemently hate and disagree with. - So now that he's turning on Trump, you think it's because he's on the outs from the Trump circle. - I think he is a very, again, I don't know, talk or anything, but by assumption, he's a very specific worldview. And he doesn't like Jewish influence. He doesn't like the American Israeli alliance. And I think that Trump is not strong enough on Israel. And I think that's really the source of frustration. - Bro, I don't think it's anything besides that. - I think it's, I think it's, you don't think so? I think it's, I think it's, I think, go, go. - I think it's another side up. And I'm gonna tell you what I mean by this. And I said this months ago, but, you know, I'm retarded, so nobody really listens to me until later. Conservative voices for the last couple of years, have been the strongest voices we can say that, right? - You mean the immediate or the loudest voices in the media? - A lot of the voices in the media the last couple of years. - What I would say is that I think the concern, sorry, I would say conservative voices occupied the internet space first, and therefore grew audiences online where the majority of people are. And I think now you see like liberal voices, like the Midas touch podcast is like a huge podcast. And like you see a lot of these other liberal voices that have now taken hold online. But I think it was, they were just a little bit later the game, and I think the conservative voices were early to the online. I mean like Alex Jones is like, wow motherfucking boy, but he was online decade ago. - Midas is also working because you could argue they're copying kind of the conservative blueprint. They go very hard. They big headlines, there's not a ton of nuance, and it's the same like constant cadence. - Well listen, this is the point. The conservative voices were the biggest voices. You have the people like the Midas touch it's who cut through. People like Midas touch, they've been saying all of this about Donald Trump, right? A lot of liberal voices have been saying all of this about Donald Trump. Right now is their moment, where they could be like, we told you so, we were right, but not if a conservative like the Tucker Carlson's, Megan Kelly's, the Alan Jones, the Candace Owens, the people who already had the big voices when they come out and be like, oh no Donald Trump fucked up. Donald Trump is, you know, he's causing all of this chaos, he's causing all this commotion. Now that becomes the biggest story because they weren't opposition. They were the ones who were actually pushing him and supporting him. So therefore they still remain the biggest voices and they also look more honest than everybody else. Why is liberal media still ain't talking about Israel the way that these guys are? They don't mean here, it's not talking about Israel the way that these guys are. Now I'm talking about mainstream liberal media. Now I'm not talking about like, you know, many of us on and people who have independent platforms, I'm talking about mainstream, so they still sound like conservative media isn't even talking about it. mainstream conservative media is not even, so they still look like they're ahead of the curve. So what happens? Commit. in terms, they still got a lot of influence. What happens come, 2028, they still got a lot of influence 'cause a lot of people are thinking, well, the old guys told us the truth. Those guys told us the truth wouldn't matter. Yo, there's not a liberal politician. And it's gonna sound crazy, but I want you to think about what I'm saying, who shouldn't be having those talking points on certain issues like the Tucker Carlson's and the Megan Kelly's of the world have right now. Especially-- - Which talking points? - Israel, in the war, and what I ran. - And saying what? - Saying that the things that they're saying, and how they feel like America's in this war, America's in this war because of Israel. - Right, but the problem is, Tucker's a little bit of a trojan horse on that topic. I mean, what you mean? - He's framing it as like, I'm just like really confused about what's going on, and it seems like these people have an outsized influence. Like, you know, Chris, people want to hear, I think he's being very direct. - But when you have that white nationalist agenda behind it, that's where you blur the line between very legitimate criticism of Israel, and some more dangerous anti-Semitic stuff, is what I'm saying. - I'm not against you, but I'm telling you-- - So if he didn't have that white nationalist agenda, 'cause I watch him and I'm like, why the fuck am I agreeing with this guy? - Okay, so-- - Why am I-- - Here's a thought, tell me why you're agreeing with him, because I think he's asking questions that to your point, I think more people should be asking, I don't like him leading on. - But can we just acknowledge this? Like a guy in the KKK, and a guy in the Black Panthers, can both agree that ice cream is good. Just because you're in opposition parties, doesn't mean that there are things that you see that you potentially agree on. And when you're not-- - Unless it's to sell boys and ice cream is good. - No, no, no, no, no, again, the intention behind it, behind the point, again, the intention behind it for that person might be different, but the intention behind the consumer is resonant, right? So it's like, you feel a little bit, you feel uncomfortable, you feel discomfort, and uncertainty about America's role in this war, and the reason why we're in there, and what would potentially get out of it? American lives being lost, and an economy being affected, the global economy being affected, and all the sudden people are explaining those sentiments to you, even people that you vehemently disagree with on 99% of issues, but all of a sudden those things resonant, that's not shocking to me. Matter of fact, I don't think that we should completely disregard everything someone says because maybe they're an opposition party. It'd be a really cool thing that we could look at and go, okay, I agree on that point. What you're saying, I think, is very valuable, which is what is the intention behind that point? Now, I don't think people care about the intention. They just want to hear it. - I care. - No, no, we should care. - Well, we'll Chris. Chris, I think you make a good point, which is like, we should actually care because what is the later goal of that messaging? You make agree on face value with a piece of messaging and not understand the downstream effects of it, for sure. But what I think Sean is saying is, this is resonating with people, and that's something that I think people need to do, especially with media. - But to your point, and Chris's point, I think the intention behind it is what I said, y'all might have just said it a little more eloquent, is that his intention is to keep a scramble hold on the influence that he has on people. So he's doing that by saying what he thinks people want to hear, like in this article right here, Tucker Carlson has long criticized the Trump administration's military actions and his accused Trump of abandoning the America first premise. He ran on, that's what people want. In June last year prior to the US joining Israel and launching strikes on three key Iranian nuclear sites, Carlson urged Trump against actively entering the conflict, the disagreement resulted in Trump publicly berating Carlson by referring to him as kooky. That's what people want. - I agree with that. But then when you also have a very cordial conversation with the Nick Fuentes, on the other hand, I got a question where this, the anti-Israel conversation is ultimately going. - Chris, I'm with you. But once again, news is fragmented. What if I never heard Tucker talk about the Israel stuff? What if I never heard Tucker talk about, you know, - I think we're talking about two different things, right? One is what's a smart media strategy for Tucker. Undoubtedly he's following a smart media strategy. - Say everything, say everything that everybody wants to hear. - I'm just questioning his agenda. - Did you see the video of Tucker Carlson talking to the Black Israelite? - No, no. - It's like two videos of Tucker Carlson industry talking to Black Israelite and you'll wonder where he's getting his rhetoric from. - You wonder where it's getting, you look it up. Look, I'm Tucker Carlson talking to Black Israelite. You wonder where he's getting his rhetoric from. - Did they, did they dab him up? Like, nah, he's good. Like this, this guy's, I just saw clips. - I think it's a big deal. Why am I going this way? - If you're a so-called white man, if your line goes back to the eat-up, do you know anything about eat-up or Esor? - Yep. - So what do you know about eat-up or Esor? - Well, Esor, you know what I mean? (crowd cheering) - Brother Esor, Jacob's brother. - Yeah. - Okay, who are the descendants of Jacob? - I think the Jews and the air in the Philippines, the United States. - Are you talking about the white Jews? - I don't know, I'm talking about that. - Okay, where did the descendants of Jacob-- - What is Black Israelite's position on American Jews? I don't even know. - Boy, shut up. - You look very pretty. - I'm not even. - What? (laughing) - I've always liked the Black Israelite. - What? - What is this? - Yeah, I like this. - What? - What kind of question was that? Was that a set-up? - I know. - What the fuck? - They make, they make Fuentes look liberal. (laughing) - But I've never seen this before. - They don't have to. - Oh, I haven't seen it. (laughing) - Well, just to Chris' point, is this a smart move for him because if Trump still has the power, now he's out of the circle and now he's not going to have the access that he wants to have the power to access? How is the influence not the office? And his base, I imagine, shares these sentiments and in order to maintain that. And I'm not saying that he doesn't actually feel this way. I think that right now we're sitting here and assuming that he doesn't feel this way. I'm like, he might actually feel this way and he's upset that things that Trump are doing. That's a possibility. So what you said earlier is he should have known better, which is fair. - Yeah. - So, but like, I also think that his base wants this and if he just backs Trump, no matter what, his base will be like, oh, you sold out too. That's what I assume. - Yeah, you dick stuck a tucker. (laughing) - But also, no, this is him. You're going to see more of this. Damn, I had a point, but I forgot it too. You're going to see more of who's the next to jump. - I mean, they're all jumping. I mean, they just haven't, I didn't see nobody apologize, like tucker apologizing that way, but they're all jumping. Oh, that's the thing I wanted to say. It's not going to hurt him being outside of Trump's serve. Because Trump cares about proximity to power as well. - Exactly. As long as Tucker got his audience and Tucker got millions of people watching him, Trump would absolutely positively be standing next to Trump again. We just, Rogan, he just signed an executive order for Rogan last week. - After Rogan was shitting all over. - Exactly. - Okay. - I hear what you're saying, but I mean, Trump still have thought to do. - Trump's like this, man. You could be for him, he's going to bring you a lot of independent people that no matter what Trump is, right? - There's not one platform Trump has. Fox, CBS, about to be seeing it. That's more powerful than what's going on online. - I don't care what you guys got. - Ben Shapiro. - Ben Shapiro. He still has a lot of voices that are still seen Trump. That a powerful voice. - They kind of think he is their voices that have vested interests in this war. - And like, doesn't it now fracture the party? - So now come mid- - That's the conversation. - Trump going for somebody and then you'll have. - That's the conversation. - Yeah. - I mean, like the benefit, I think the best. The fear obviously with the Democrats, right? Like, what I imagine, why I imagine, like after Bernie, I think this is what in like 20, what is this, 20, 20 or 24, when like Bernie won Iowa, and then like every Democratic candidate dropped out, so it was 2020. Bernie wins Iowa, then every Democratic candidate running, like all the sudden drops out, except Elizabeth Warren. And Elizabeth Warren stays into the end. And it's like, I imagine there's a conversation that happens where they're like, "Hey, Elizabeth, you can divide the progressive vote between you and Bernie, so Bernie won't take away from Biden." And we'll get everybody else that's like, just a center left candidate to be out of here, so Biden can get all those votes. And it's a strategic position. Because having a divided party, you will fail, you will lose, like what did Ross Perot do, right? You could argue Clinton wins, because Ross is in there, getting what, 10% to 20% of the votes. Yeah, I thought I was more than that. I'm talking about Tucker's base, because wouldn't it be more advantageous to him to just like try to mold his base to be like, "Okay, we can point out the bad things Trump is doing, but we're still team Trump together." You assume that he leads the base. I think what Chris and Charlemagne are positing is that the base leads him. He's putting his finger up and. - That's it. - Oh, that's it. - That's what he thinks. - That's what he tells him how to do. - No, not. Their suggestion is that the base or the algorithm or what is trending is pushing his ideas. And again, I don't know. But if he was the person that was curating the minds of these people, then he could say whatever he want. But it seems like there's an energy that exists online that is palpable. - That's right. - And that energy needs to be served. And the people that are serving that energy are gonna be incredibly influential and successful, because you're essentially organizing ideas for people's feelings. And that's what the media really does in a lot of ways. It's like, hey, we feel this stuff for angry, we feel this existential angst. Someone explained to me why we feel it. - Yeah, the worst thing that he did was try to attack all of them in one tweet. Alex Jones, Candice Nolan, talking about the cost of no, my boy. That's I ran. - You ain't just getting rid of them like that. - Yeah, I mean, like Nanos tried to do that. - You see what I'm saying? - And then it worked out. - He needed all of rings to do it, you know what I mean? He needed all of rings to do it. - What else we got? We got to need more ads, Taylor? - All right, let's do some ads, Candice. - I want to shout out to Netflix, man. Salute to everybody who's been watching the Breakfast Club podcast on Netflix a couple of weeks ago. Netflix had released, I guess like the podcast, charged the way they do the TV and the film. - Oh, I saw that. - Breakfast Club is the number one watch podcast. (cheering) I don't know if we need the number one watch podcast on Netflix. - Make up 44% of all podcast viewing on Netflix. (cheering) - 44%. - Put back up the truck, back up the truck. - Hey, Salute to Netflix, man. 44% of all podcast viewing on Netflix got a lot of cool stuff coming with Netflix, man. Stay tuned, stay tuned for the next move. This next move is gonna be really, really, really, really dope, man. So, Salute to everybody who's watching Breakfast Club on Netflix. Let's do some asking idiot to tell a gang. Tell a gang gang. - Yeah, then wait. - Yeah, let's go to ask an idiot 'cause we got children in home, we got children in home. Wait, we're including you, mother of Taylor. - I like being a part of the group. - That's good, man. It's good to see women who want to have kids in our days. - Yeah, no one wants to have them. - They say that after they don't get them. - No, that's not what I was gonna get. We got to think about Seth Rogan saying like how he's happy. He never had children and thinks he got further in life because he didn't ask anything. - He's married. - Hey, man, that's Seth. - I mean, how did you get that? - Seth is laughing. - Yeah, I'm not mad at Seth was saying that. That's what he chose. - Yeah. - I was not mad at that. - It's a tricky position for us to be in because once you have kids, you can't imagine. - Without them. - Without them, man. So, the knee jerk is to be like, man, that guy's crazy, but he's also never had kids. So, he doesn't know what it's like. And other people's kids ain't your kids. - Exactly. - I can understand when you just around other people's kids, how you're like, I don't want these motherfuckers. Kids are like, other people's kids are like a motorcycle. - Well, you don't even hear Taylor refer to her dog no more. - That's what I remember before. I don't remember her dog is her child. I don't remember her dog was her child. - I don't remember her child. - Oh my god. - I think she's holding for parts. - I really should do this too. - I ain't going for it. - I really should do picture of my family with an aunt. - Hey. - I ain't see that little dog in a minute. - Okay. - I'll be honest with you. - I don't need even parts to be honest. - I don't need any crazy. - Plus if you have kids and you really enter your dog. - If you still call in your dog, your kid, after you have kids? - No. - No. - Because it's like, you don't have more time. Like once you have, once you have kids, there's no more time. You're not going to ignore your kids to play fetch with your dog. How do you fucking mind your own ball with your kids? - When they're older, it's okay. - When they're older, they don't want nothing to do with you. Then you play with your dog. - They play with the dog. - Oh, they can't. - For sure. - You're the best friend. - But definitely it's your child. You don't refer to that dog as your child. No more. You know the difference. - You don't refer to it as your child. - That dog is gone, proof of light, that dog gone was like, okay, I'll show you a picture right now. - That dog is gone, Taylor. - Look at him, right? - You sold that dog for parts. I don't care what you say. - Ah, man. - You don't think that's my child. That's my child. I mean, you don't think that's my boy. - I still have to take care of him. What do you mean? - Once again, you ain't say that's your child. - You also said half too. - I have to take care of my son too. - No, Parker is going to know you was like, I feel so good. I can't wait to get home. You want your child? - Yeah, you want your child. - You have to take care of that little punk as dog. - Of course, he doesn't know punk. Leave my dog alone. - No, why can't we be honest? - What about we're your dog, okay? - Okay. - I don't even know what gender my dog is. - Okay. - The answer to you. Check this out. Check this out. Taylor, what would you do if your dog bit your son? - Ooh. - I would never. - No, no, no, no. - Stop asking. - What would you do if your dog bit your son? - I'll be his aunt, I have a friendship though. It's not like I have a rock walley. - Okay, what would you do if your son bit your dog? - It's a place. - Wait, what? - What would you do if your son bit your dog? - I would have his aunt too, like no, you don't bite him. - Yeah, but you see, I would have his aunt. I would tap his head. I would beat the dog. I asked him, okay. Oh, (beep) that month. - I would not. - I would not do that. - You did. - That's what you just said. - Okay. - Call up (beep) to come barbecue. - Yeah, it's just. (laughing) - We can't sleep at all, dude. - Yeah, we can't sleep in the name. - Come on, come on, come on, come on. - It's crazy, it's crazy. - That was crazy. - All right, well, man. - He got an album coming out, though, man. (laughing) - Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. - Okay, Afghaniti, what summer plan are you most excited about this 2026 summer? Shala? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, all my summer plans are revolving around, I mean, of course, regular family vacation, but like my oldest daughter is going to college. So, that's what we've been need even, you know, the visits, you know, freshman orientations, all of that shit like that. I'm trying to, I'm just trying to, you know, hold it together, man. This shit is sad. Yeah, it's like, it's, it's, being a human is the most complex thing in the world. I wish that people would stop acting like everything is so black and white on social media. Like, we take complex issues, bring them to social media and just flatten them and make it either this or that. No. Like, I don't care what the situation is, there's a whole bunch of complex emotions. So, on one hand, I am happy that I have raised this amazing human who's doing something I never did. My wife went to college, but I never went to college. She's going off to school. She's going to an amazing school. She had a lot of options of what school she could get into. You know, she made her own decision, because if it was up to me, she'd be somewhere else, but I do like this school a lot as well, but she came to that conclusion. I'd not even heard of this place until she found it because of, you know, the field that she wants to get in. And on the other hand, I'm like extremely, extremely sad, because I'm like, did I, did I get to spend as much time with my baby over these last 17 years? 'Cause I know this is the, this is it. Like, this is the daughter. Like, you spent, you probably at this point in your life spent 95% of the time you're going to split your daughter. You right. And I mean, there's actually a study about that. I can't remember what the number was, but there's a, there's a study that shows you spend most of your time with your child between the age of 12 or something like that, yeah. I think nothing is like 17, 18. So it's going to be tough, but it's going to be all right. All right, bra, I'm already feeling it. I ain't even going to fight. At least you guys, three LAs at home. Yeah, but it's just different. It's also the first thing. Girl, that's your baby girl. Yeah, man. Did everything for her. Oh, grind it, you sacrifice. I hate you. I think that's what all the visits are going to be. That's what you have to talk about. You have to talk about that. He hasn't cried. She, and you know what she, she don't know all the things you did just to give her life you never had, man. No, we, she do. We talk about her. She doesn't know, and it's great. She doesn't know. I mean, look, but there's nothing she can't ask me, you know? Of course. I know, I don't have no, I don't feel like we do ourselves when your faith was keeping secrets from our kids. That's why I'm glad I've written the books I've written, and I mean, God damn. Please ask me questions about this shit. We've been saying for the past. And also think about the alternatives. Suppose you were the kid who wasn't ready. Who didn't want to go. Yeah, yeah. Who didn't feel like they could fly. That would hurt worse. I might want that though. No, I don't know if it would hurt worse, bro. It wasn't. I'm only because I'm a, I don't have to deal with what I'm dealing with now. You have to deal with that though, you don't want that though. No, I know we don't know. I stayed home until I was in my 30s for the right reasons. I mean, it worked out, but like a lot of people would be like, what's going on? Yeah, you were staying home and I'm sure you were hustling. I was always a hustling. I was always getting out. The kid who's staying home and just kind of in their room and not doing stuff and without direction. That's sad. That's sad. So you want somebody who's on the deck, you know? Yeah, I mean, like, yeah, kind of. I think about that, like I had an apartment basically next to theirs. Yeah. But I think about that, right? Chris and Shultz, hustle culture, right? That's what America is. But what if we live somewhere where we didn't have to do any of that? What if we lived on an island somewhere where we didn't do nothing, but, you know, we go fish, we pick up a little odd job, maybe open up a little beat shack or something and you just cool out. Like what's this pressure to be something in America? It's not pressure to be something in other places. And by the way, when I say be something, sometimes just living is enough. Like that wouldn't bother me either. Yeah, but I think you're at a point of success where like you've achieved all your wildest dreams. So it's easy for you to be like, what if we just go fish? Word. You know what being like? Word, there's nothing that can happen in my life right now. That's going to change my lifestyle. And we had run the Ryze Young Breakfast Club Man and she said to me, "It was just you. It was going to be my last fight." Netflix and she was like, you know, this isn't even about money. She was like, you know, they came back and bought you this back. She was like, no, there's no amount of money they can give me. And I think that's a good place to be because now you're not chasing anything. And now you're doing things because you want to not because you have to. Yeah. Like taking care of your dog, Taylor. Fuck about that dog. But you have all my summer plans going around my first born going to college. What about you? I look forward to I got a little project that I'm going to have to do this summer in LA, I think. And then outside of that, I look forward to just like hanging out with the family out east. And like, like, what if this summer my daughter, like, learns how to swim? Yeah, you know what I mean? Like I'm looking for like crazy milestones. Also now that my daughter's a little bit older, just kind of like keeping her on my hip when I just do shit throughout the day. Like I got errands to go do like, yeah, just roll with me. Let's do it. She's walking now. She's moving. It's not as crazy as it was all right. She's too. Yeah. So like joy, bro, she'll be 17 tomorrow. That's the thing. And so yeah. So there's, and then also like my son is getting a little bit older where he's starting to kind of like recognize things, you know. So, you know, he's about to probably get into that age where he's making him laugh a little bit, kind of communicating in his own way. So I look forward to kind of soaking up that time. That's what I'm excited about. I'm going to be all these this summer. Really? I'm coming out there in July for the whole month, not the whole month. Like probably a week. Some friends invited us out there. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where, where? I don't fucking know. I can tell you after we get on there, but I don't fucking know. I mean, I don't know the location. This makes me so happy. Yeah, I'm so fucking happy. I'm so happy. What else we got to tell you? It's a couple more athletes. Oh, what's the round we mean yeast? What else for wax? I'm going yeast though. Yo, low-key. The hamptons. They have hamptons. Oh. We should just rip it up out there. Oh, that'd be fire. Right? That'd be fire. A lot of the hamptons have a few drinks. Yo. Sam Silve, if you could pass down one technique, not trait to your kids, what would it be? Technique? Technique for what though? That's a broad question, Sam Silve. We mean my technique. I hold my son can hit it from his back the way I do. Oh, you got a good mean back then? I got a mean back. I got a mean, not hit it from the back from your back. Like, I got a mean back. Oh, from your back. Yeah. Yeah, lay down. I hope he can do that. Yeah, but those are post moves you learn in your later life. That's Jordan. Like, you know, his last couple of years with the post. Jimmy. Yeah, you know, what if he knows it young enough where he could just blow minds? Yeah, you could learn. You could learn Jordan late post games. Or how the way Braun plays now? You could learn that early. Is that really a dad's dream? What? Like, for your sons to get like girls and everything like that, like that's your dream. Yo, you know who's dreaming? It really is. And you're going to find this out too. Moms? Moms will talk all this shit about how like, many shit and guys cheat and guys do all this. And the second they get a son, all they do is talk about like, oh, he's going to be a lady killer. He starts to flirt. My son is three months old. Oh, he doesn't throw up. And my wife is like, yo, he's a flirt. Like, this dude stays hidden on flirt girls. I'm not who it's going to. Who's he talking to? You just want him to be the dude you hate. Women always do this shit. You want little men to be able to get later now? I want him to be very smart. I was telling. I was trying to get back at that. I want people to get late. You want them to go for it? No, but I said, like, I want him. I'm not worried about, yeah, it sucks to not like, I just want him to be very smart. But do you want him to be getting none? Or do you want him to be able to crack? We want to have this conversation. I don't want him to talk to me. No, he's cracking something. He's nine months. Yeah, but when he's 18, you don't think that he's going to be causing-- That's a conversation with his dad. I don't want to have a conversation. Because one thing, he's not going to be cracking nothing in my house. Oh, we've got to do something else. I promise you, we've got to do that. I promise you, I'm an embarrassment. No, not what's in there. I promise you, I'm embarrassing shit out of him. Why would you do that? No, absolutely not. You're not going to go there. I've seen a mother embarrassing young lady one time. That shit was so crazy, yo. Whatever. She walked in and she said, who was this nasty asshole having sex in my living room? Because he had to pull out couch in the middle of the living room. So he was in the pull-out couch and like, it was just a trailer. So he was in the pull-out couch. But we in another room, like playing video games and something. The mom walks in, like, oh, shit, we didn't hear her walk in. And we just waited for this show. Who's this nasty ass bitch slut ass hoe having sex in my mother fuck living room? Nasty ass bitch, your mom ain't teach you shit. And you ain't shit either talking to her. You ain't shit either fucking in my house like this. Who's that nasty ass hoe? Nasty ass hoe. And when she got out from under the covers, when she finally got out from under the covers, boy, they're talking to, but it changed. And went from nasty ass slut, nasty bitch, nasty hoe, whatever, whatever. When she got out from under the covers, that's when the real conversation happened. You were a lady. You weren't supposed to be motion like this. You were having sex in my mother fucking house, blah, blah, blah, this and that. But I was like, God damn, could you at least let your son finish? Yeah, you got to let him finish. He got it. You shouldn't have been fucking in my house for the first place. That was not me. I would never do this. You're going to yell at your son with a hard dick. I'll be pissed off, yeah. Get the fuck out. Who's this girl? Yes. No sleepovers. No. You say that now. You're going to be dappin' them up. Okay. If he does, I mean, it's because of his father, not me, like, no, never happy. We're supposed to be one of the house like all just like happy and ginger. The only one that's fucking in the house should be me. It shouldn't be no one else. What about your husband? Well done. You didn't say that. You said me. No, my God. That was a selfish shit. You never. Don't be fucking in the house as me. You never had sex in your house. You never had sex in your house, you never had sex in your house. You never had sex in your house.