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Trump vs Canada, Iran Hit with New Sanctions & Florida Cracks Down on SNAP | PBD Podcast #850

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Trump vs Canada, Iran Hit with New Sanctions & Florida Cracks Down on SNAP | PBD Podcast #850

Patrick Bet-David and the Home Team break down three power plays with global consequences. Trump escalates tensions with Canada by proposing a new name for Lake Ontario, Iranian state media releases a disturbing video targeting Barron Trump, and Meta faces an $18 billion reckoning over allegations that it failed to protect children. 🎟️ SECURE YOUR 2026 VAULT TICKETS: https://bit.ly/4xU2SCW 👞 GET THE FLB1's: https://bit.ly/4mC4uf6 🦁 SPONSOR THE VAULT 2026: https://bit.ly/4mFBPpw Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/4kSVkso Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj 🇰 KALSHI: http://kalshi.com/pbd SUBSCRIBE TO: @VALUETAINMENT: https://youtube.com/@VALUETAINMENT @ValuetainmentComedy: https://youtube.com/@ValuetainmentComedy ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal bestseller Your Next Five Moves (Simon & Schuster) and a father of two boys and two girls. He currently resides in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

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The American Pronunciation Guide Presents "How to Pronounce Adam" Adam, what's your point? The future looks bright? My handshake is better than anything I ever signed, right here. You are a one-of-one? I think I've ever said this before. Listen, I say this all the time. Out of all the best characters in comedy movies, what he did in that is my top five. And I'm telling you, and I watch comedy. That character, he is in the top five of the funniest characters. I would go back and watch it again and again and again. It's that funny. Anyway, great to have you on. It's great to be here. I miss you guys. By the way, Brian was here at 7:30. We were all showing up late. He was like, "Guys, where is everybody?" And we were like, "All right, Brian's here." I had to get a workout. We're ready to go. We've got a lot of stories to cover with you guys today. There's a story about dad brain. Have you heard about this dad brain concept? We're going to talk about this dad brain concept. It's an interesting story that I think you're going to appreciate. It says what happens to men when they become dads. There's a few things that happen to us when we become dads. Last night, we were having dinner with a friend doctor of ours. And Tom starts telling the doctors, "Look, can you find a nurse for Vinny?" And then he says, "Look, you have to know, you got looks or you get a doctor. You don't get both." Most doctors are not attractive. He said, "Well, I'll settle for a nurse." "You know a pretty nurse. Send us this way." By the way, I'm going to do an exercise. Stay tuned. Of anybody you know, because I now know Vinny's clear qualification for what he wants in a wife. We're going to create a site, add them in there. And maybe, listen. Maybe you're going to be the person that's going to help Vinny find his wife. And then we'll figure this out. But I finally figured out what he wants and what he's not into. The one criterion. I don't know why you said this. I never understood it. But I've never asked it because I don't want to insult you. It's privacy. He said, "No Somalians." I don't know what that means. That was the only thing he said he's not into. Anything else, he's game. No Somalis. It's not that bad. They run good day care centers. Very good day care centers. A few stories. Number one, Iranian sanctions. Iranian sanctions. Operation Economic Outcast trying to destroy Iran economically. Rubio said strikes over sanctions. And the way they're doing it, it's very interesting because Turkey and Pakistan that are tied to the sanctions just did a new trade deal with Iran. So the timing's kind of weird. And I think they're only going after three or four different countries. They want to suffocate Iran in ways they've never done it. Kalshi came out today. And you guys remember this good-looking guy who was very, you know. Vinny does it really good when he goes like this. You know, this Newsom guy. He was first on Kalshi. He's officially not even second. Ossoff and AOC are now ahead of him on Kalshi. Newsom is down to 13%. This is what happens when you have no clue what you stand for. It's not even the awe. You know what it is? What the hell do you stand for? One minute you're a socialist. One minute you're this. Just say what you stand for and go make your arguments. And then Dolly Parton and Jelly Roll will get into that, obviously. May she rest in peace. She was an absolute legend. Certain people, you can use the word legend. And it's qualified legend. Dolly was a legend. This past week, Jelly Roll stepped in for Jimmy Kimmel. There was a lot of people that were not happy about some of the jokes. I thought a couple of the jokes were funny. But I think something he did on the second day was he probably didn't need to do it. Why do that? I mean, why lose that audience? We'll talk about that. I'm curious how you guys feel about this. Trump posted a tweet yesterday. As the greatest president of all time. Did you see this one or no? And then great. And then average. And then below average. And he added a category. But people don't know the story behind it. We will talk about what the story behind it is. But again, he's trying to piss a lot of people off. I got a clip talking about Outkast. Outkast, Andre 3000, which to me, he's in my top five. I mean, I can tell you, I listened to Outkast's album over and over and over thousands of times. In a podcast, he explains why men above 45. Above 45 shouldn't rap. And the way he breaks it down. Have you seen this? I haven't seen it. It is the funniest thing. He says, I just want to raw. I want to see how you're going to react to it. It's hilarious. Great. And then we got a couple other stories here. We got to get into Florida. You guys ready for this? Very weird. Very weird. So they say, hey, snap. All of a sudden cuts back that you can't order soda and all this other stuff. They're changing. Story comes out yesterday that apparently soda sales is down 12 to 13%. Because of snap. Crazy. Wait, snap. What is snap? So snap was like the ATM cards for food. So now soda has been impacted because of the changes that you can't just go buy anything. By the way, in Florida, check this out. Florida is the first state. This is a little bit of a weird story. I kept asking Connor, are you sure this is a real story? Watch this. Florida is the first state to prevent folks who get welfare to use that welfare cash to get food. So now you're saying that the state is the first state to prevent folks who get welfare to use that welfare cash to get food. about it's taxpayer money yeah go get a tattoo of any on taxpayer why not go smoke some you know vape and go get some video games and watch some porn on the house because just to lower your stress level that you have lindsey clancy there's a story of a man that says listen he called off the wedding because the wife was like she it's not her fault so the guy's like wait what yeah you want to have kids with that you want me to have kids with you i'm calling off the wedding so it was like the runaway bride except it wasn't uh what was the girl's name and julia roberts ronnie roberts is runaway it's a man that's running away hassan piker came and said something which i don't even know if it's a good thing to say but it's good for the world to hear he said he loves the fact that everything this uh what's this character brags el saeed is faking moderation to scam voters he said that so i need a little bit of honesty from uh some piker to say something like that really honest maybe we'll react to that jesse waters talked to uh uh what's his name good looking guys a very well-spoken guy doctor player football player yeah he's he's got you know he's talking uh and he asked jesse if he's circumcised and jesse's reaction is like bro yeah why are you asking me this private question but it's a the we have to play the clip i'm curious to know what you guys think canadian tariffs so just so you guys know tom's if you notice tom's a little bit off today and a little bit upset just so you know this is this is tom's been furious with this whole canadian tariffs you know now canada's coming back and they're saying they're not going to provide electricity and that's their threat carney and you know this guy ford who's playing tough guy and yesterday like you know how we have pbs and npr they have cbc you know what they said yesterday on cbc did you hear about this i think one of them said kiss my ass no on cbc yesterday they said we can no longer say that 9-11 was a terrorist attack what yesterday under national tv that's taxpayer funded said 9-11 was not a terrorist attack yesterday i'll show you the clip yeah so here's the big news i want to announce to you guys that a lot of people have been waiting for remember earlier this year we made some adjustments on our merge and we had certain things that because of the shoes and all this other stuff that was going on let me tell you what the big announcement is we decided we want to take this concept of future looks bright flb to the next level what do i mean by this well you know i said instead of vtmerch.com why don't we and one of our executives wives to be exact rj's wife said why don't you guys go buy the domain flb.com i'm like that's a million dollar domain that's three letters well why don't flb.com we have an entire new collection called the icon collection is out and i'm introducing it to you and i want you to watch the manifesto of what future looks bright really stands for and the amount of thinking we put into this the last 12 months just to launch it to you and the reason why we're sharing this with you today you're going to get more stuff that's coming out a lot of you guys that are going to the vault you will see all this stuff right there uh new shoes new loafers a lot of different things there's going to be another thing that's coming out here soon as well but with that being said i'm going to let you guys know that we're i just want you to watch this manifesto of what flb future looks bright stands for go for it there is a moment when you realize no one is coming to change your life for you no one is going to hand you clear vision no one is going to hand you perseverance to not give up no one is going to hand you a better future that realization can feel heavy or it can feel powerful future looks bright was born in that moment not as a promise not as blind optimism but as a decision a decision to take ownership to raise your standards to strengthen your body to sharpen your mind to move forward even when progress feels slow optimism is not something you say it is something you live and this is where most people fall off because in the end it's simple. You either take ownership or you don't. You either hold the standard or you lower it. You either build or you wait. Your standards stop wavering. Your actions stop depending on motivation. Your results stop being random. They become earned. It's so sick. I love that logo. I love the logo. Listen, we went through hundreds of logos, and if you notice, you see the F, go back to it, you see the F, you see the L, and you see the B, FLB.com. We're so excited about this project. So if you go to FLB.com right now, go to the icon collection, go to the top where you see icon collection right there. You have a bunch of new items to go through. The hats, if you go through it, there's five different colors with the new FLB logo. The shirt quality, ridiculous. Even the basic tees for you to wear and the pants that we have that you can wear regular, casually, or to work on a daily basis. We're so excited about this, and we got a lot of other things that's going to be coming out. So if you want to participate in this, please go to FLB.com. Place your order for yourself, your husband, your sons, and we're excited about this next venture that we're going on with FLB. All right. Having said that, let's get right into it. The first story I want to start off with, I kind of like when we're doing things that's getting people to be healthier. I like that. So there's a story that comes out yesterday talking about Snap, and we know what Snap stands for. Tom, can you tell the rest of us what Snap stands for? Snap is Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, and it's an EBT card that the government gives to people who are on welfare, and the government refills it, and then they can take it into the grocery store and use it. Yeah. And so we, taxpayers, provide that opportunity for folks who are going through challenging times. And of course, there's a lot of abuse with it. There's a lot of money that's spent. And at the same time, some people said RFK isn't good. Why don't we not allow people to use Snap to buy stuff that's not good for them? And so some business owners that make a lot of money off Snap, school, going out there, buying Coke, buying soda, they're like, wait, this is not a good idea. And why are they saying it's not a good idea? Well, then the numbers finally came out. Check this out. This is a Zero Hedge article. They do a great job there. Soda purchases slumped 13% after Snap sugary drink restrictions. Soda purchase fell 13%. After 10 states, Soda purchases fell 13%. After 10 states, restricted sugary drink purchases with Snap funds in 2026. Per an August National Bureau of Economic Research study, not yet peer-reviewed, covering about 5,000 Snap holders before demand, the average Snap household bought about 185 ounces of soda a month, roughly 15 cans. The 13% drop equals two fewer cans, notably household with enough cash to bypass the restrictions. Still cuts soda consumption 18.5%. When states labeled soda unapproved, it's not a good idea. It's not a good idea. It's not unapproved. It acted as a powerful psychological signal. Instead of bypassing the ban with cash, families reconsidered their habits. The sugar impact is unclear, but a 2024 study forecasts up to 20% of soda decline, but a 7% juice increase, meaning just a 7% overall cut in the beverage intake. Snap distributed $102.6 billion to 42 million families in fiscal 2025. As of August, 23 states have restriction waivers. The first time the USDA has ever granted them. This is massive because now we're seeing the direct impact to businesses just based on 10 states. Imagine this goes to 50 states. Tom, why is this story so important? This is important because there is a direct correlation between obesity and excess sugar intake, and the sodas are part of that. So if we're providing Snap to people who are unfortunately, you know, in a welfare situation, and you want to help them go in to get, you know, food, fruits, vegetables, and things, you don't want them loading up on soda because it leads directly to diabetes. It leads directly now to Medicaid costs for insulin. This is the beginning of where it goes. And you know what? Food companies have lobbyists, big, big lobbyists, and they work Washington, Pat, and they work the states to get their food onto the Snap program. Into schools too, by the way. And to get this, thank you very much, correct? I'll give you a big fist bump there. Ooh, Cali, get a fist bump. It's called seasoning. I give a little seasoning. No, no, no, yeah. From the husband here of a school teacher who hates the fact that you can see Coke machines in schools because kids will have a sugar crash right after lunch, and you're trying to teach them. This is good, Pat. This is good because it aims toward they're only buying nutritious stuff, and it got to get in front of big food. There's also big pharma. There's also big food, and they are out there trying to get things onto Snap. Candy bars, sodas, and all that should not be. What do you think about that? But same thing. Look, you've got Oreo that has the deep fried Oreo, just in case you missed. If the Oreo's not enough, let's deep fry it. Now they're coming up with the Oreo. KFC and Oreo did a collab. I don't know if it's very exciting. You can eat an Oreo that tastes like an Oreo and tastes like a piece of KFC chicken. That's it. Look at that. They put that. But there's no chicken meat in the Coke. the cookie. That'd be too healthy. Is this a joke? No, this is absolutely. Listen, I had to look it up. Are you serious? I had to look it up. This is not a meme. No, this is not a joke. This is where the pharmaceutical companies say, they come and they go, look, we're losing. Look, we're making a fortune on GLP drugs, but people aren't as diabetic. We've got to bring that back up so we can make some money. It's all connected. I'm not saying, but they probably. Is GLP profitable? You think? Yeah. So do you think maybe some GLP profits are going to lobbyists who are actually lobbying for the food side? I'm not saying that. I'm just saying when you start losing money on your diabetic, on your diabetes medication, maybe you go to the food companies and say, can you come up with something even more addictive and more delicious? Can you run a poll? And then the insulin companies are like, give me one second. Can you run a poll in the back and ask people how many sodas they drink per month? How many sodas they drink per month? Just ask zero, put one to five, five to ten, ten plus. Let's run a poll and see how much people drink because I'm curious to know. By the way, just to kind of give you guys some numbers on what states are already implementing this. Nebraska started the first of this year. Soda and energy drinks. First ever waiver. And energy drinks. There you go. Number two. Indiana started January 1st. Soft drinks and candy. Utah the January 1st. Soft drinks only. West Virginia soda and soft drinks. Idaho soda and candy. Oklahoma soft drinks and candy. Louisiana soft drinks, energy drinks and candy. Good. Texas sweetened drinks and candy. Florida soda, energy drinks, candy and prepared dessert. Arkansas soda drinks under 50% juice. Energy unhealthy drinks and candy. These are the states that are coming up from August 31st and on. South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, Ohio, Virginia, Wyoming, Kansas, Missouri and Hawaii are all planning on implementing this plan. And the only bright blue state is Hawaii. But to your point too, these are strong lobbies and people are going to lose money. But this is a very interesting thing. This is where you say to yourself, this is the one thing government is doing well. There's not a lot of programs. But the part is this, like when I was in the military, I got into a debate with one of my friends 20 years ago, Devine. When I was in the military, they would say, if you're social, the last four years social starts with the number four, step up. All right, what are we doing? Go ahead. We're going to do a drug test. And we would go do a drug test. A guy's watching you. Boom. Hey, Jackson, you're smoking weed. Boom. Hey, Jones, come up. You got an article, whatever article 15. You're going to be working chow hollow, whatever for two weeks. All right. So then I asked the guy, my friend, I said, hey, if they give you tax funded money, snap welfare, shouldn't the government be able to drug test you at any time? No, I think that's unfair. That's too much privacy. You're taking people's money. Yep. What are you talking to? So I actually love this policy. Yeah. And mind you, just so people understand, because I, and again, getting in the way of Americans when they're already used to something, each soda can of Coca-Cola is 39 grams of sugar, which is almost 10 teaspoons. And it did that number on purpose. They would have gone the before and sodium, by the way, and sodium. And if you think about guys, snap food stamps in the United States, just just snap timing. I'm not talking about the other programs is a hundred billion dollars. And every time and you nailed, bro, you're getting in the way of all these big companies, bro. Soda wants a piece of that. Oh, 100%. And that's why RFK bro RFK Snickers. And I told him, I know we're going to get into another story later on with Shapiro RFK to me is the MVP just silent, bro. Switch sides went from the Democrats or Republicans, and he's just been low key helping Americans that are too crazy to be like, no, leave us alone. We want our sugar. He's trying to like what was it? The food food dies in additives, the chronic disease, the real food reformed all the vaccine stuff. This guy's just kicking butt quietly, quietly, just all these home runs and nobody's really paying attention to what he's doing. You want to talk about actually making an impact. It's not sexy, but diabetes insulin resistance. That's the real killer of Americans. It's not terrorism. It's not your food dies. It's it's it to borrow somebody who said that's like rearranging the furniture on the deck of the Titanic. The the the real threat is insulin resistance. People eat way too much sugar. And oh, by the way, when I say people, let's actually say what it is. It's kids. Kids get hooked on soda. So if you want to give your kid three, four or five cokes a day and give a metabolic disease, which is happening and has been happening for the past, what, 30 years, by the way, check this out. So it's July of 2019. I'm at Breakers hosting a meeting. We're watching some documentary together. And Ian, my CFO, I ask him, he's a runner. He runs 450 miles time at 46 years old at 46 but it was a stud like this guy was a cfo of andy biel the guy's a legit stud i hope he sees this we love you and you're phenomenal benedict and you know he says i said so uh what's your diet he says i don't drink soda i haven't had it for seven years i said you're stop it i said nothing he says nothing while he's doing that my assistant brings me two coke zeros because that's what i would drink i would drink three coke zeros a day i said you know what i'm gonna try to see if i can go seven days without coke zero the last time i had soda was july of 2019 till today the last time simplest thing to cut it's not something complicated the simplest thing to cut and you all of a sudden see three inches gone here two inches gone here with a simple thing like that so i actually love this program adam uh do you have any final thoughts i like the florida story did we get into that you want me to get into that let me read the florida story okay let's go to the florida story so now this snap thing which to us folks as a taxpayer you ought to be protecting yourself you ought to be protecting yourself you ought to be protecting of where your money goes to we're paying taxes for the services we should see watch this one the great state of florida becomes the first state to block welfare cash to be used for what tattoos vape and porn it's incredible what yes outrageous people currently use welfare cash for porn i have no idea dude i have no idea when i saw this story i'm like tattoos tattoos this has to be a fake story so florida is the by the way this is fox news reading this article florida becomes the first state to impose sweeping limits on welfare cash blocking ebt cash assistance from buying tattoos theme park tickets video games vaping products pornography and even psychic and fortune-telling services the trump administration is urging other states to follow hhs deemed florida's tanf plan complete thursday praising common sense restriction taxpayer funded assistance should help families put food on the table keep the lights on purchase clothing provide their children on overcome barriers on the path for uh towards independence says the santa's acf assistant secretary alex j adams stress benefits are not cut no one loses any of their benefits if an individual or family is going to come to the government to cover their basic needs it is the government's expectation that they can be used for those basic needs the average household gets roughly 250 a month florida's healthy snap initiative already barred soda energy drinks and candy from food benefits in april adam thought yeah the soda is just a a small part of hey stop using this money on things that aren't basics so to me soda is like under these other things tattoos vapes porn i mean you could be buying drugs on this type of stuff to me it's ridiculous but here's my biggest takeaway the government assistance is not like your daddy's allowance it's not like here's money do whatever you want there's restrictions with this like i don't know if you've any of you guys have ever been on welfare or snap but my first job out of college i'm not going to do that i'm not going to do that i'm not going to do that i'm not going to do that i was laid off after my first year they gave me unemployment and they gave me food stamps snap i was like oh damn i got free food and what happens is they give you six months and here's what happens three months in you're you're chilling you're and i'm getting free food i don't have to work you're 22 years old doesn't matter after six months you have to like renew you start to kind of come dependent on it yeah and that's ultimately what this comes down to because i don't want to basically admonish people that are using snap that actually need it and what i realized was this there's three camps there's the people that just genuinely can't function in society and actually need basic help that's the whole premise of our social safety net that's fine i get those people the second people are the people that can but they need help that was like me at the time look i can work but i got laid off and i need some time cool you get six months boom here's the challenge i think what we're talking about these other things it's the people that can't that won't they want to work they want to work they want to work they want to game the system they want to get free stuff and they're basically saying hey why are you telling me what to do with the money you gave me so to me it comes down to this final thing um do you want the freedom or do you want the restrictions that come with government assistance to me anyone that just relies on government assistance it's a doomsday scenario for you in the end what this does is brian i'll come to what this does is 42 million people are getting snapped wow 42 million 107 billion that we spend just for snap 42 million that's a lot of people by the way the people that are getting 42 million most of them are adults like it's not like it yeah 42 million are getting snapped and because remember when the conversation came on who was getting snapped what ethnicity which immigrants and you saw the somalians you saw all that stuff and they're like well we got to cut snap and then there was so many videos going viral saying you better not cut snap it's going to hurt so many kids and then republicans are like okay this is a very sensitive topic of course for us to go directly and say we're cutting in half to 21 million rather they went this route and so this is this is one step then the next step then the next step by the way before i come to you we did the poll how many sodas do you drink per month what percentage you think said zero this episode is brought to you by google chrome you think you know a browser but gemini and chrome that's new it can help you with practically anything on the web like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50 page restoration block 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because pepsi brings out more flavor more fun and more of the moment food deserves pepsi grab a pepsi zero sugar today oh our audience one percent oh our audience our audience three percent these are business your audiences your audiences have is business never do it class i'd say i'd say your audience maybe 25 you're close 39 said zero zero in a month i am so these are motivated people dude i am so impressed by our audience you're my hero yeah freaking awesome good for you i gotta push hey give yourself a pat here watch this one to five a month is 32 percent yeah five to ten a month is nine percent 10 plus a month 20 one out of five listeners drink more than 10 sodas a month that's insane brian thoughts well look anytime you have something like this where the government says you're not allowed to do this this is a good law it was the same i don't know if you remember this but this it was the same debate when when smoking and seatbelts came along when when seatbelts were mandatory there was a huge uproar about how the government was not allowed to do this this is a good law and how dare the government make me wear my seatbelt i'm allowed to die if i want to and stuff like that cigarettes were the same thing it was a very contentious idea which is that you're not allowed to smoke pretty much anywhere and secondhand smoke causes all kinds of problems and oh by the way we have to take care of you as you die just like when you have diabetes now you have lung cancer those laws looking back on the fact that nobody smokes anymore nobody smokes anymore well they're all vaping what do you mean they're all vaping but it's very true move the ball it's very true cigarette smoker it's like but vaping doesn't have that secondhand thing that we were dealing with and seatbelts are another thing so sometimes there are some good restrictions and this is a great example but what bothers me is we have 13.6 billion dollars a year goes to illegals that are on welfare and this and i'm tired of this country constantly about our affordability we're in debt we waste so many dude billions and billions on people that don't belong here and we try to say get out and don't come here we're we're the a-holes you know what my first thought was when you just said 13 billion you know how sick this is i went like this i went that's a pittance yeah our debt is 40 trillion that's what i'm saying 40 trillion a trillion seconds everybody is 32 000 years we have 40 of those in debt okay so when you talk about 13 billion that's adorable yeah is that is a 40 trillion it's it's a thousand a trillion is a thousand billion but ready for this or mine all the years of all the years of that 13 billion 13 billion 20 billion 100 billion that money of course i mean we're going down in the hole but i mean where you have to start this is the one we were talking about earlier and there's something on here we're talking about earlier i'm going to read it tom i'm going to come to you food stamps by ethnicity watch this percentage of u.s households receiving for afghan 45.6 percent this is from the personal finance wizard somalis 42 for iraqi dominican caribbean uh u.s native then you got puerto turrican cuban black arab cambodian haitian pacific and then you got the rest of them tom you were going to say something on this this became look at the somali one number two yes we found out in minnesota doge found it in minnesota covered it up there were people in minnesota that were that were able-bodied working people that had multiple ebt cards coming to them under the snap program multiple people that were working so there was fraud in terms of access getting a card you didn't even deserve a card and now we had all this bad food being purchased the this freaking program was broken on one side you got lobbyists from big food making sure that certain foods could be bought with it and now the states are pushing back you know why the states are pushing back because of medicaid medicaid is where the sick people that are on welfare have to get their health care so the state looks at it says why am i giving them sugary drinks and then on my medicaid budget now i got to give them insulin i'm not doing that yeah so that's right and then on the other side of it was the fraud of getting access to the program it was broken the there is no auditing on who got access and it was a revolving door with the lobbyists this is an example of your tax dollar at work this is why we've got 30 40 40 of those trillion dollar 32,000 year things to make up for it's incredible look every we want to focus on the top of the list of basically who's abusing the system what states are basically just giving away money but i want to give a shout out to people at the bottom of the list shout out to the indians here who aren't accepting anything they're taking less than the whites sorry about that yeah and the italians so i i mean we want to we want to admonish people who are doing the bad thing but let's give some respect so i kind of know where you're going no no guys let me tell you what he's trying to do and he does this every time you know what he really wanted to say go to the bottom of the list he wanted to say look at the israelis are they there where are they right there on the bottom you know you wanted to go there and then italians then whites then chinese let me say that nigerians israelis get your stuff together buddy yeah the filipinos are beating you the chinese are beating they took the matzah balls off the program that's why they don't use everything sorry exactly of course let me get to this again it always comes back to the jews invisible circle of jews holding strings every country i thought that's where it was going i'm trying to give indians a shout out listen every day we have to get a commercial about israel from this guy every day but we could get all right we can get a commercial about somalia let me let me hang on a pack wire incoming let me get to the next story let me get to the next story so this story which is it's getting heavier like you know yesterday the whole iran sanctions that it's announced this is so technical but this is like if you want to find out how bad have you has anybody ever suffocated like imagine let's just say you were once married and you have a house and this house later on sells for like i don't know five million bucks or something like six million dollars and that money was yours you worked your ass off for this right and then you you have somebody like an ex or a father or a you know wife or somebody that's just suffocating all of you and you're living off of all your finances that you can't do anything everything like when we ran the insurance company every month we would have some people that would get wages garnished why you didn't pay child we will learn everybody who's back on child support payment that was one of our jobs that we would get hey that man's making all this money he owns me child support back in this distance and then we would work with these husbands and most of the time it was husbands what u.s just did to iran they are suffocating a country in ways that they don't even know what they're going to be it's never been suffocated before and that operation they're calling is operation economic outcast nothing to do with the rappers in a bass pass with a c not a k this is with a c it's very important for you to know this so rubio said we are moving away from strikes to sanctions so what does this mean let me get to the story do we know what page the story's on there's like a bunch of them on this so i go one by one by one on these stories so rubio tells allies u.s shifted away and how bad is this thing going to be when besson broke it down tom do you want to kind of go through this because there's a this thing gets very very deep you know on on what direction they're going with this time i'll come to you first well first of all they're they're now just like you start with sanctions on oil you can't sell oil and we're going to blockade you so you can't send your ships to china with the oil so we start there then we said and we're also gonna uh the other oil products so that you can't send fertilizer to um to china because you know there is a compound that also comes out of oil products you can't do that and now they're basically saying you know we're going to go off everything we're going to go cost a living we're going to go after all of the things that are on there that the people need well my question is they may be suffocating a country but do these particular leaders care if the people suffer and is that going to get them to move well i mean the part that to me that that is very interesting is i i think tom what they're concerned right yesterday i had ted cruz here we did a three-hour podcast together he came down and we're talking about some of these trades tariffs how it works does it work does it not work if you're doing this and i believe pakistan and turkey just signed a trade deal with iran and you keep hearing erdogan erdogan erdogan and there's possibility that israel may do something with turkey there's a conflict there that's brewing that people are watching very closely and they're not going to do business with iran you're not doing any business with us you don't have to do it it is not a must but they're almost using pakistan and remember what a negotiation was for the memorandum of it was pakistan they were leading it so this is a very weird direction they're going they're not just stuff they're telling everybody i swear to god if you're an ally with iran and you help them in any way i'm not your customer i'm not your customer and even deeper levels to possibly not even doing business with iran i'm not your customer with the u.s dollar which is kind of a little bit of a risk besant's taking look there's nobody that knows this business better than besant people forget who besant used to work for he worked for soros guess what he worked for soros you know for 15 years i didn't know that oh you worked for soros one time nine years you didn't know this i did not know besant worked for soros first time for nine years second time for five or six years who knows more about currency manipulation than soros nobody that's why well i have a question but let me wrap this up and i'll just come to you so to me the fact that this guy was the chief investment officer for soros for five years and prior to that he was with them for nine years from 91 to 2000 so if they're doing this and besant's leading it guess what we know the guy's got a lot of experience in doing this so he's gonna know how to suffocate iran now whether it'll work or not we'll see it's gonna be tough look china iran 90 of iran's crude goes to china china's not not independent now here's that there's not a shot if we're gonna actually do this to china and starve china of energy it ain't happening there's there's gonna be they're they're gonna figure a way around that they need that fertilizer because they can't grow their own food they are dependent on energy they're gonna get it somewhere now it's interesting to me that the head of the cia is has gone to russia what's he doing there quietly what's he doing there talking to putin is this something where they're going can you give is this a way of saying you want to sell your oil russia you can sell it to china because we got to do this thing in the strait of hormuz we got to block things we got to make it very uncomfortable for iran i don't know maybe i'm not i'm not a foreign policy guy but it's very interesting the timing is very interesting to me that these things are thought about if you're if you're smart about it don't you think they've thought about it like watch the sequencing watch the sequencing first you get venezuela then you go after iran if you go after venezuela you know how much they're relying on oil yeah you then say hey venezuela is going to broker a deal with you at a discount we'll send it to you china's still going to get there or they've thought about this stuff let me let me kind of share with you what the plan looks like so u.s has mapped iran's network best and says treasury has mapped notes facilitators and networks iran uses to sell oil and evade sanctions so you know what that means this is kind of like you know one of the things anna paulina luna is trying to work on right now which she's doing a very good job is she's trying to make sure that venezuela has a plan to make sure that venezuela has a plan to find out which influencers in america are getting paid by foreign entities and foreign countries good so a lot of times people can create a shell to get the money to get paid to a shell and then somehow some way money comes to you and nobody finds out that it came from cutter or china or whoever the government's finding out ways to identify and say these influencers are getting paid just tell the world russia's paying you just tell the world cutter's paying you which the same way snap is being held accountable for not getting tattoos guess what we want that right this is very important let me read this to you one more time besson says treasury has mapped the nodes facilitators and networks iran uses to sell oil to what to evade sanctions so they're telling you we know what you're doing to get some of the billionaires in your country that are doing it so it doesn't look like it's you kind of like what happened with huawei many years ago when huawei's daughter was the cfo who was in canada doing a deal with iran and all of a sudden trump said on his first term guess what huawei you can never do business with america and huawei left and this was a hundred billion dollar company i don't know if you remember this or not this was a massive story eight years ago nine-year time do you remember the story totally with the cfo that was the daughter of huawei came in and she was in canada and she was in canada when this happened you're not going to be able the united states is not going to be able to tell turkey it's a fair question china you're not going to be able to tell these people what to do they might say okay yeah yeah we got you they need their oil and the oil is what if you have a different supply that comes to them from a different place well what if you provide them a different place well you've got to figure out a way to build a pipeline in a hurry but the strait of hormones is still a crucial waterway and iran that the thing that they can do with a tiny drone is all they have to do is hit one ship and now here's the problem and it happened yesterday the ship can't get the ship can't get insurance that no company shipping company's gonna go i'm not putting my ship where u.s government said we'll come and do the insurance forget about loads of london try that that's fine but so now we gotta escort every ship and you , you can still cause a problem with one tiny drone and the problem is those those companies then say okay i have to rely on the u.s military for insurance i don't let me let me just read the sequence and i'm going to come to you guys so watch this trump called each of the country's leader independent individually so he called him says guys this is what we're doing i need you to back me up number three treasury state u.s military teams then met with their counterparts this isn't simply ofac publishing sanctions interagency teams are approaching foreign governments and telling them specifically what washington expected closed each country gets its own deadline each of them to have their own set of deadlines on what they need to do iranian bank branches get closed besson give one example specifically every bank melly branch must be shuttered that's a pretty heavy statement this guy's not playing around foreign banks can lose access to dollars so besson explicitly threatened entities facilitating iran money with removal from u.s dollar system this is ne this is not something that we say commonly secondary sanctions now cover the five additional iranian sectors digital asset technology gold aviation and shipping and then they're targeting the entire oil chain not merely the buyers so the producer the tanker the ship owner the ship manager all of them so treasury immediately hit roughly 60 different targets assets frozen and the 50 rule kicks in so this is not like they're doing tom do you think this is going to work your your percentage is what 10 chance i don't think it's i just what do you give too much what do you give it what percentage i think i think it's lip service and i think the i don't know that the sanctions that were in place for as long as they had been before that weren't really restrictive as well the problem is enforcing this stuff really hard to enforce what do you think is a likelihood this actually works and causes pain uh five percent okay fair tom where are you edward i'm higher than that i'll tell you why you have to go back and take a look at how these things work what they're talking about they're talking about intermediaries that's people that that can facilitate wires they're talking about the clearing houses for the banks they're also talking about the aviation and shipping companies that are actually shells and they're talking about the free trade zones because there's free trade zones everywhere there's one in montreal there's free trade zones around the world where it's easy to get in and out because you don't have certain restrictions because you know as long as you're not selling this this or this you know goods services of laws around the list can go through pat you know do you remember who was the mexican drug bank who was the drug bank from mexico it goes back to like 2015 2012. it was hsbc hsbc was known as the drug bank cianola cartel was moving a billion dollars through them it was ridiculous and they they got sanctioned heavily when the us found it well guess what as fast as they were moving on hsbc regional banks and everything picked up the slack so if they get in here and they can step on the air hose and the reason they want to close that bank is they want to close the wire and the transfer capability that's what they're going after if you can track all the wire and transfer and you can say hey citibank you just moved the billion no we didn't everyone has to be shut down because you're in there so the question is what's going to happen this was huge what they did with hsbc and i think what they're talking about when i read this and i see clearing houses transfer facilitators that's what they're talking about when i read this and i free trade shows that has to do with the money moving around if he's able to step on that pat i give you a greater than 50 chance of succeeding this working politically i'm i'm with callan politically at five percent if you were just talking yeah but if they get in there and they step on the the tr the transports then the money can't move well we got to finish this war with canada first i agree i agree it's so funny trump is like i'm renaming that lake the lake we're going to go to that but i want to stay here because this to me if if this works by the way again i want to re-emphasize this besson's the right guy trump's the right guy because he's got the balls and rubio is the right guy because you know he he knows how to maneuver and talk to everybody so they got the right you know personalities going there if they pull this off because i'll read this story to you and adam i'm going to come to you this is from ap ready this is from ap iran scrambles to sustain trade as u.s threatened sanctions on countries that refuse to break ties ap ap's a liberal leftist government it's not like it's going to be pro-trump iran's economy already battered by inflation sanctions and a war that slash oil revenue faces more instability as washington coerces countries into ending financial dealings with iran the uae's decision last week to suspend trade kick-started the isolation push those who stand with the united states will reap the rewards of the partnerships at besant those who tethered themselves to the iranian regime should expect to share in the isolation so again they're pushing everybody out success hinges on china the main buyer of iranian oil which you said earlier i don't see china playing ball by any means said the chatham house fellow david lubin iran exchanged 125 billion dollars in goods in 2024 but the uae china and turkey supplied nearly three quarters of their imports the uae can be replaced but the iranians are openly saying it's not going to happen overnight adam this episode is brought to you by google chrome you think you know a browser but gemini and chrome that's new it can help you with practically anything on the web like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50-page restoration block or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks 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the stories keep flowing and the food tastes better because pepsi brings out more flavor more fun and more of the moment food deserves pepsi grab a pepsi zero sugar today yeah i mean to me it comes down to one question like how much do you care about your own citizens because what we can say about america and trump trump cares about his citizens but he's basically saying listen you might have to pay a little bit more at the pump that's the worst situation you're gonna go from comfortable to a little bit of discomfort the iranian regime you think they care about their own citizens you think they care that their citizens are struggling to eat they'll kill 50 000 of them in a weekend if they're even talking back so to me this is why i'm kind of with cal and i'm like i don't see these guys conceding because these sanctions are supposed to breed concessions all right bro we're gonna do this to you and when we do this we need you to do this and and here's the reason why unless it hits the people in power yeah it's not going to create a change okay so for instance all right in america the gas prices are a little bit more let's just say it starts affecting the people in power they're like all right so you used to pay 350 you're paying four bucks now too bad but in iran i mean the anguish the misery the misery index that we talk about the inflation the unemployment yeah but they're just like we don't care so what's your point though my point is they don't care about their citizens so you're so we're asking them to make concessions then you and things they don't care about it. Then you and Callan are on the same page. Are you less than 5% this works? Well, I think a little bit differently. I think after midterms, Trump's not going to care that much about gas prices and he's going to light them up. So they got about 60 to 90 days to get this thing done before Trump militarily goes back in. That's my opinion. No, he's not going to light them up. Why wouldn't he light them up? Iran knows a couple things. One is that the Americans do not have an appetite to actually go into Iran. That'd be the dumbest thing in the world. Either does Trump he's not going to do that. Number two, they can shut the Strait of Hormuz down very easily with a little mischief for a couple grand. Those two things are huge. I don't know if you saw the news, not to cut you off, they just removed all the mines in the Strait of Hormuz. That's fine, but now they have a bargaining chip. What I'm saying is that they got a couple cards. But at the end of the day, look, Iran has that oil. The world needs that oil. The world needs that sulfur. As long as the world needs that, at least there's alternative routes. And they're making alternative routes. In 10 years. I don't know if it's going to take that long. I mean, we're seeing what's going on with the Red Sea. Either way, I'm telling you right now, if China needs that oil, they're going to get that oil. I don't think China's going to make those things. Let me play this clip of what Besson said threatening China and Iran. Go for it. institutions that facilitate transactions for Iran. Chinese banks have often been talked about being targeted, but we don't see any of those institutions targeted here. Is that something that is coming in this campaign? Or is the very delicate trade truce with China something that could prohibit you from going that far and taking that very big step? We want to make clear here today that no one is above the reach of U.S. sanctions. That if they facilitate transactions and are part of the ecosystem that turns Iranian oil into money, into repression, they will be targeted. Okay, so that's that part on what he's saying. He's making it very clear. I want you to watch the second one. Go for it. And let me be clear, any entity that facilitates money laundering on behalf of Iran will be removed from the U.S. dollar system. The clock just started ticking. So you think this is a nothing burger? I think it's lip service. Really? You can't do that. Good luck. We're going to get into a. Are we going to really. You think you can sanction China? That symbiotic relationship? Our symbiotic relationship with China? Well, let's do that to the economy on top of all this other stuff. Enjoy that in the midterms, guys. I mean. It's not like China would come with a virus. By the way, how much of the oil China gets you think they get from Iran? I don't know the. I think I looked it up. I'm asking him. I looked it up. Was it 20, 30 percent? I know that Iran's 90 percent of their crude goes to China. For sure. But I don't know what the exact. So those are two different concerns, right? They are. So China only gets 8 percent of their oil from Iran. Right. So 8 percent is replaceable. If it was a bigger number. Yeah. They're not going to die on that. How about the sulfur? How about fertilizer and stuff? Because they have to grow their own food. And then they're shipping the raw materials to create rocket fuel, you know, for those rockets back. Look, I really look back at the HSBC case. They were monitored for five years, Pat. Five years. At the end of the five years, nobody was indicted. Because they said, too big to jail. Right? Too big to fail. Like we did there. No, no, no. That's what they said. They said, too big to jail. And they didn't want to destabilize the world banking system. They're stepping over this now. Because until Besant nails a large bank and takes them offline, the market, the stock markets, are going to price this as a tax, Pat. Do you understand? Because they're going to say, oh, that bank will get fined, that bank will get fined, they'll get fined. So they see that as a tax or a cost in the system. But this is different language. And this is why I say it's 50% chance it's going to work. This is much different language. No U.S. representative, Secretary of State, Secretary of Commerce, Secretary of Treasury, President, Vice President, has ever gone to the microphone with this sort of specificity and said, I'm going to take you off the dollar system. It means I'm shutting down wires, I'm shutting down access. If they, if they truly close and are aiming at the Iranian bank, Pat, if they truly take them offline, then there's something. But until then, it's going to be treated as a tax by the financial markets. And you go back to HSBC, by the way, it was over $7 billion. By the way, HSBC was the number one mover of money in and out of Mexico. And they caught the cartels that the teller windows had these square openings where you could slide boxes through. And the Cianola cartels, where they would pack their money, were the exact dimensions of the teller windows at HSBC. The question is, has this tactic ever worked in the past before? That's the question. So let me read this to you. In 2012, U.S. essentially told foreign banks and oil buyers substantially reduce Iranian oil purchases dealings with sanctioned Iranian banks or risk losing access to the U.S. financial system. We've done this before. Treasury contacted more than 120 financial institutions and regulators across 60 countries. Treasury says the overwhelming majority changed their practices rather than risk U.S. financial access. The results were dramatic. Iranian crude oil exports fell from 2.5 million barrels a day to 1.5 million barrels a day. That's a 40% decline. By 2014, it fell to 1.1 million barrels a day, 60%. Iran's oil revenue took a huge hit. Treasury later estimated that sanctions cost Iran more than $160 billion in oil revenue in 2012. And here's the part that's relevant to your question. You ready? China participated. Wow. That's the biggest factor. So, does that change your mind a little bit that this has partly worked in the past before? My instinct always goes to when I hear Besant start talking about punitive measures, I go to gun control. I just go, man, every time you try to say, I'm going to bring the hammer down, people find a way around these things. And when a country does that, when we start talking geopolitically and we start rattling swords, I always, I'm cynical now because I go, how much is lip service? How much of this is political? How much of this is Trump? And the administration is desperate because what they realize is that they are in a war. We're stuck in Iran. And I wouldn't know how to get out of it. This is a problem. By the way, I don't think you're alone. I think millions of people think the way you do. So, there is a community. I'm skeptical. Very skeptical. Did you have anything? Well, just to add, 50-50, my 50 is with you. Adam said it, and I think Tom mentioned it. The only way, Brian, and this is not what we want. The only way to win in Iran is literally boots on them and then blow them all up. There's no way. This was the biggest mistake. We are where we are. This isn't going anywhere. This is going to affect the midterms. It's going to affect the freaking presidency. Remember it was going to be two weeks and we were going to be done? What happened? And look where we are. Because they were six days away from a nuclear weapon. We've been hearing that for 30 years. I hear you. I think there's two different lanes here. There's militarily and then there's economically and then the overarching is strategically. But like you said, if they don't care about the people, they'll starve and they don't give a damn about the people. Oh, I agree. So, the only way to do it is to kill everybody. That's the only way. Good luck. Well, that's what I'm saying. I don't want it, but. What Pat just said was very important, and he just gave a case example of when it worked. So, let me just frame this in 10 seconds. Pat wrote a book. It was called Choose Your Enemies Wisely. The opposite of that is what Iran is going to be forced to do, and the people that are around Iran, it's going to be choose your allies wisely. America's basically saying, oh, you want to be friends with Iran or us. There's no in-between. Now, whether that works or not. We've done that before, though. That's what they're saying. Yeah, we've been doing that for 40 years. But now they're going to do it economically and strategically. So, you can do financial sanctions. We did it then, too. You can do trade sanctions, and they're basically saying. It's the longest 10 seconds I've heard. Brian Callen interrupted me, so I get an. It restarts every time he interrupts. Sorry, buddy. Sorry. But we're going to see what these countries choose as far as. Yeah, okay. We'll see what happens. Let's move on to the next story. Canada. Canadian tariffs. This war, back and forth, is not slowing down, and it's getting worse and worse. So, tariff refunds contribute to record-setting corporate profit boosts. This is Canadian tariffs that they're talking about. Tom, can you go a little bit deeper on this retaliatory tariff that's going on with Canada and the U.S.? I'll read one of the stories, and I'll turn it over to you. Bully feud erupts between Trump and Ontario. Doug Ford over China's trade tariffs. Okay, I don't know if you guys got a clip on this or not. If you do, I'll read this, and then we'll possibly go to a clip in a time. I'm coming to you first. The war awards between U.S. and Canada is heating up alongside the trade war with Ontario. Premier Doug Ford twice telling President Trump, kiss my ass. Trump pledged Monday to raise tariffs on Canadian cars, trucks, auto parts, and steel to 50% in January. After 50% tariffs on other goods landed Saturday when trade talks collapsed. Canada has been ripping off the United States for years, Trump posted, including, we do not yet need Canada. They need us. Prime Minister Mark Carney suspended negotiations Friday over last-minute changes. He called unfair, uneconomic, vowing to retaliate dollar for dollar. Ford calling Trump a bully, said Canada must throw everything in the kitchen sink at him. I have a lot of real estate on my ass, and so he has a lot of room to kiss my ass. Ford, is this Ford talking? Play the clip. Play the clip of him. Yeah. This guy looks like Brock Lesnar. Back and forth with Trump. You know, I'm not gonna, I'm just I'm not going to. Take the bait. This guy's a loser. He's going to be a loser. And simple as that. We're going to fight with everything we have. And you know something? I have more courage, more brains in my baby toe than he has in his whole body. So there you go. And I have a lot of real estate on my ass. So he has a lot of room to kiss my ass. If you're getting Canadians to talk this way. If you're getting Canadians to start talking about this way. Canadians are the most polite people on the planet. And they got Brock Lesnar's twin out there. You got a problem. You better back it up when you're talking like this. You better back it up. Tom, your thoughts on this. Okay. So when Trump says Canada's been ripping us off for years. What he's talking about is two key disputes that go back literally 20 years. Canada has been throwing disadvantages at American farmers and American lumber industry for years. Canada's got a lot of cows in Alberta. They got a lot of grassland up there. And they have a lot of lumber. And what they've done is they've done a thing called stumpage fees. Stumpage fees basically creates an advantage and a subsidy to their own lumber people who then ship plywood and building products to United States and disadvantage the U.S. suppliers. So this has been going. Makes sense, Pat? So that's been going on for a long time. Also, dairy has been going on. Guess what? There's the cows. That's been going on for a long time. So Trump got into this on the good side. Hey, man. There's been a couple errors. There's been a couple errors for you guys who have really kind of been messing with us. And we really want to straighten these out. And Canada's like, no, no, no. We don't want to touch those. And he said, no, you've been ripping us off for a lot of time. That's what Trump is talking about. I don't know if rip off is the word, but those have been things that have been unresolved. So that's what Trump was pissed off about. Now, who's Doug Ford? Doug Ford is the governor of Ontario. Governor of Ontario. So he's basically the Gavin Newsom of Canada. He goes to the microphone. He's unafraid to say stuff. He's like this. This is what it's all about. Meanwhile, Mark Carney is playing because the EU has told Mark Carney that they're giving him green light to go up against Trump. We're going to help you out. We're going to do this. We'll trade with you. There's things we'll do. So Canada, with a GDP one-tenth of the U.S., 31 versus $1.3 trillion, they are sitting there, you know, 3.1, 31 versus 3.1, pushing it. So that's what's going on. Now, all of a sudden, you've got Trump elevating it, saying Trump things. You know, you guys are idiots. You're the worst. It's ever where Trump. Renaming a lake. Where Trump started in a good point that we needed to level the playing field for the lumber industries, dairy and others, digital services, too. And now it escalated into this where they're screaming at each other. We're renaming a lake. I want to. I want to play this clip for you. So this is President Trump on Glenn Beck talking about what it says. Go for it. They are one of the worst countries in the world to deal with. And this has gone on for many years. Wait, wait, wait. Can we say this? I love Canadians and Canada. I do not like their administration. Okay. Well, the administration and the previous administration, too, is terrible. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. But they have taken advantage of the United States for many decades, actually. They charge tariffs that are unbelievable, like on milk. 100% and on like, and I just said, we're taking them on and I took them on at the beginning, but we had so many other things to do because the country is a mess, but I said, we're going to take them on, we're going to stop it. And you saw the Lake Ontario, you know, people thought I was kidding, but maybe I wasn't because the last one you saw was the Gulf of Mexico's Gulf of America. So now we have a gulf and we have a lake. Okay. You know, it's very simple. But, but look, I don't. I don't want to go into great detail because it's maybe boring to people. But to me, it's not boring. They charge tariffs. They take advantage of us as though they were a state and they're not a state. And they've taken our car industry and they've taken our agriculture industry. You know, the farmers can't sell anything in there because the tariffs are so enormous. And yet they want to sell in us without any cash. So I had a deal. You can pause it right there. What do you think about what he said? He's right. This is what I was talking about. He didn't mention lumber. But lumber and dairy, you know, and he's talking about milk. Those have been two areas that have been going on for a long time have been unresolved. And they've been giving benefit to Canada. Here's where you have to be careful with the auto industry. The U.S. sends aluminum to Canada. Canada makes parts out of it. And then they sell the parts back to Ford. We, we use materials, turn it into parts and send it to them. So when a car is built in America, there's what's called the circle. It's a circle. It's the circle of parts. The circle of parts. and it's tremendous well you know where windsor is windsor locks is directly it is there's a trivia it's above detroit right south of detroit windsor canada is the only place that you can go south from the united states and get into canada every other place you have to go north you can go south because it goes this south windsor yeah and so the windsor factory was named there so the auto industry pat we've had good symbiotic relationships that help people working moms and dads that were working the auto industry who has leverage here supplier who has leverage here we have the leverage go light them up and then why do we not have the light i just worry that you know first of all talk about the funniest president of all time i'm sorry if you hate him but to name the rename the lake just despite it's like you want to divorce me i'm going to pee in every corner of the house see ya you know i to me he makes me laugh so hard that's just so silly but i i just wonder if 50 tariffs which obviously he probably won't stand with he just usually goes crazy and then there's we scale back from there but is this good right now for the economy is this is this timing uh beneficial well he took it off the leverage he took the tariff off of beef itself not dairy but beef so that we can get cows and beef from alberta so we took he took that off so we that that if you go look at that so the price of meat don't mess with my steak well he's trying to help the american barbecue because right now ground beef is six bucks okay and and and seven years ago it was three bucks wow yeah by the way when when you're talking about this and i'll come to you you're you're worried about this like lake america whatever you're changing let me tell you what's an insult you know what's coming up in a couple weeks the 25 year anniversary of 9-11 okay so then imagine this is a country that wants to be partners with america and two weeks before the 25 year anniversary of 9-11 cbc which is the pbs of canada sends an email to tell their journalists not to call 9-11 terrorist attack in internal guidance they know they're they're doing this two weeks before 9-11 can you go back to the email so we can read the email what it looks like so outrageous that is so outrageous look at this here do not refer to the september 11 attacks as terrorist attacks the hijackings led to passenger jet crashes in dc pennsylvania and manhattan the world trade center and was destroyed september 11 digital archive is an excellent resource for details about the attacks it was created by several u.s universities historical societies and foundations if you have any specific questions about the 9-11 anniversary coverage you are working on please reach out to your editorial leader or jsp office thanks and take care so so so you're worried about me changing the names to a damn lake and you want to go out there and tell us what's happening in america the last 25 years that the 25 year anniversary is coming up you have the audacity to say this is not a terrorist what was it then no problem no problem does this sound like by the way this is the part that you have to realize this is not the cnn of canada this is not the abc of canada this is not a blogger this is not the bribert or daily wire or midas touch this is the government funded cbc news sending in email to their people saying 9-11 was in the terrorist does that sound like a partner to you does that sound like a partner or is that an insult that's spitting in your face i'm so glad he's pushing back i really am so glad he's pushing back and unless somebody from the government comes up and says that email is not how we feel about it if carney and other leaders start spewing that same rhetoric saying yeah you know what 9-11 wasn't a terrorist attack we're not dealing with a partner here we're just not it's almost so crazy i want to i want to think i'm being hacked like i it feels like an april fool's joke and it's not it's it's legit i want to see what carney says in response to this i got to see what they say because they can has got to make a statement well i'll tell you what carney said about this they get 1.5 billion so cbc operates on a budget of about 1.5 billion dollars a year apparently 450 million of that is from advertising they raise advertising revenue just like any media company you pay to put an ad on the the rest comes from the government of canada and mark carney just gave them a 10 increase so there you go he probably did that beforehand i'm hoping but i don't know what i'm doing what's the date on that email Can you tell me exactly when the date on that email is that they sent? Can you go back to the Fox article that you have and see if it tells you what is the date of that email? Canadian Rock and Roll on Thursday. On Thursday. Yesterday. This memo is yesterday. And they defended it. Wow. Because they were politically and emotionally loaded. You mean the truth. The truth is politically and emotionally loaded. Yeah, so is killing over 3,000 of my citizens. That is pretty wild. By the way, 4.9% of Canada's Muslim population, 1.8 million, and climate. So who knows if there was any motive there. But this is pretty wild. Cowards. I look at this as purely political. What I would do in this situation is put myself in Canada's shoes. Because obviously we're thinking as Americans, like who the hell are these guys? Piece of crap, how dare you? Which that sentiment is downright accurate. And if not, more disgusting than that. But I'm putting myself in Canada's shoes. So Trump is hugely unpopular in Canada. I like what Glenn Banks said when he goes, listen, I love the Canadian people. The government is what I got a problem with. And that's why I want to focus here. So Tom talked about Windsor. My dad's from Detroit. I would go to Windsor in a half hour. So talk about intertwining. And by the way, we're talking about midterms because Canada's basically saying we've got two, three months. We think that Trump is going to lose the House. So at that point, we'll have more leverage. Boom. And then what is the state that's up for grabs? It's right on the Canadian border. Michigan, this guy, Al Sayed. So they're basically saying, what kind of pain can we sustain? You know, we talk about short term pain for long term gain. They're saying we'll pay the price. Economically, our citizens are going to have to pay more money. We're going to deal with it in tariffs. But we're going to hopefully have Trump lose politically. And that's why this guy Doug Ford is talking tough. Kiss my ass. He's the bad cop. He's just a governor, but he's the bad cop at the microphone. At the end of the day, they're betting that Trump's going to lose the midterms, that they're going to come out with more leverage in two to three months. That's why they're talking tough. They're not actually tough. They're talking tough. And they're basically saying, mess with us. We're going to do our best to make sure you lose Michigan. So Canada ain't stupid. The government's woke, but they're not stupid. Oh, but for you to come out and have the audacity to say 9/11 wasn't a terrorist attack? Yeah. I think Americans need to turn that into a bigger deal. Americans need to turn that into a bigger deal. That's not a smart—left, right, center, I don't care where you lie, you have to turn that into a bigger deal. The 25 years coming up, that's not acceptable. Why do you think they would do something like that? Oh, you know what I would do? I would call Carney and have my team call out to them and say, if this apology doesn't come from the top and you don't clarify, we don't even want to talk to you. Nothing. If from the top you don't come out and say, the comments of CBC is not the comments of us, and clarify and make that phone call and they change their position— Right. And I want that today. We have a very, we have a very big problem. So I like how he's pushing the envelope. All right, let me get to the next story. Next story, we got a bunch of other stories to get into, but the next story I want to get into is Lindsey Clancy's latest story. I don't know if you guys are following what's going on with this, but the latest story is, you know, husband speaks out, I think it's Patrick Clancy comes out, great first name, and he's talking about, he breaks silence on the conspiracy theories surrounding children's death. This is a story written by Daily Wire, Patrick Clancy breaks silence, and there was a guy that was about to get married to a girl, calls off the wedding because his girl, soon to be wife, was supported. We'll get to that as well, but let me read this to you. Patrick Clancy responded Tuesday to online conspiracy theories tying him to the murders of his three children, even though his ex-wife, Lindsey Clancy, acknowledged committing the crimes. The facts are indisputable. Patrick Clancy has suffered, and unspeakable and unimaginable loss. Attorney Howard Cooper said in a statement, warning that those spreading false theories from minor influencers to major celebrities should be on notice that their false defamatory statements have caused real-life consequences. Hundreds of TikTokers, videos with millions of views, link Patrick to killing one claims without evidence. He was the male voice Lindsey heard. Actress Lisa Rinna posted a video claiming her therapist agreed Patrick did it. 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She was pointing out her behavior before the killing as evidence that she was thinking clearly and making rational decisions. The defense is saying, obviously, severe mental problems and not responsible. But then a forensic psychiatrist testified and said, there was two of them. One of them said, it's very unusual that the voice that she's claiming that she was hearing stopped after she strangled the youngest son. Okay, Callan. The voice supposedly told her to kill the children, and then once they were dead, the voice stopped. Okay, so think about that. And I keep asking myself, I want to know what you guys think. If a father did this. Guys, okay. Would people, a male, would they be bending over backwards, turning him into the freaking victim? Zero percent. Would thousands of men be lining up at him? And I love that, I know, because we had this conversation. Standing outside the courtroom screaming, it's because it's his testosterone, or he was in the military. He has PTSD. Give him a break. The hell with, oh, it was the wife. It was the wife. Absolutely not. When a guy kills his freaking family, nobody's outside wearing blue shirts praising him. Do you guys remember? I just remembered this. Chris Benoit. Yeah. The WWF, when it was WF. Yeah. This guy killed his wife, his seven-year-old son, and then killed himself, okay, afterwards. And then they found out, with the investigation, he had major brain damage, CTE. He had millions of fans. Guess how many of them were lining up anywhere praising? Zero. Right. Zero. He killed his freaking family. End of story. All right? And we talked about this earlier today. What bothers me about this entire thing. And Connor, if you could please have the photo ready with this case. Brian is, no, not, I don't want, none of that. Somewhere along this conversation became all about her mental health, her medication, Lindsay this, Lindsay suffering. This is what I want people to understand. Okay? This. Nobody's talking about them. Cora's the five-year-old, Dawson's the three-year-old, and Callan's the eight-month-old. Okay? And while this disgusting demon was killing the girl, the three-year-old, this one, was running, trying to avoid her and get away from her. Okay? And then when she strangled that eight-month-old, it didn't die in the house. Okay? It died at the hospital two days later. Its brain stem was bulging out of its back. Okay? Out of its neck. Okay? She sent the father out to go do shopping or whatever the hell so she could kill him and then try to kill herself, which she couldn't do because she's a coward. Okay? And God's making her live so she can face the music. All right? These are the victims. These three kids don't get to go to school. They don't get to fight. They don't get to go to school. They don't get to freaking go to. They don't get to do nothing because of her. So stop this nonsense. It was the father and all that stuff. It's her. All right? And I just hope, regardless of these 75 women. percent women brian they see what's going on and they could look look through it because they're all trying to divert the attention from her and go to the freaking father that father this is a this is a like literally what is the word it is the ultimate crime it's medea oh it's medea it's it's the mother killing her children right so all of us have this outrage it was it psychosis you know my thing is always this the the big the big conversation was postpartum depression okay and that can cause people and you guys don't really understand what what people go through that's fine now you're not going to kill three kids we got to stop everything it's called the stop everything button here's the bigger story though i will say that whether she goes to a hospital for the insane or a jail i'm actually not concerned with that we all want punishment these children tragically are gone this woman is going to have to live in her own hell blah take a look at how many medications she was on did you look at this list 13 but at the time at the time six and and yesterday i saw some reports though that they the the amount that she was on that that when they tested her blood isn't i don't know i don't but but it wasn't she at the time she wasn't at the the limit and and they've broken it they broke it down through uh i'm sorry the the the prosecution was saying from doctors because a bunch of doctors were on the stand that at the time when they tested her blood it wasn't at levels to make her go crazy and i understand bro years and and the postpartum and all that stuff but this is and i love that you said that brian the stop the time out she killed them ran around chased them a psychiatrist is saying this voice in the head and then it stops happening blame put everything blaming on everybody else except for her and i don't know about you guys the face that she made when she looked at the jury and she gave them this freaking look bro i put myself in the kids looking at the mom going oh my god mommy is killing us yeah it's killing my brother and killing my sister and i'm next it's the it's the ultimate crime i mean i don't know what to say but it's the ultimate horror but but would it bother you though brian we all want accountability we're huge especially here about accountability would you be comfortable if she does this insanity whatever goes into a clinic for two three years and then she's out no no no i would not be no i'm not okay with that well that's what that's a big possibility my thing my thing about this is that psychosis is real and there are people i have a friend who's kind of well-known guy um his his his wife's mother was a wonderful lady started taking uh uh ssr eyes all right dude she killed the nine-year-old nephew her husband and herself and she was 80 she just lost her mind they came home and it was a massacre um so we know these things happen again i do believe she was clearly whether she's evil or not a whole different i believe in good and evil but this was somebody who was out of their mind to do this out of their mind i i i don't think you can be let out i know the worry is like oh well three years now i'm healed no sorry you think she deserves a death penalty retribution for pat let me explain something to you yep i think you don't make an example out of this then guess what this is gonna do brian this is gonna set the precedent for any woman that's home right now that's taking some pills that just goes hey they'll refer to i don't think women i was crazy i don't think women are there's precedent you break down the facts what are the facts the facts is we've said it postpartum depression is very real and needs to be diagnosed properly and treated fact fact she was doctor shopping for medications that's a fact we found it fact she was over prescribed ssris fact next fact fact what was in her system as they said rick james may have been a junkie but he wasn't high as a kite when he died right yeah you know what i'm saying yes both can be true yeah okay and i take you back to the world of funk so she may have been in possession of multiple scripts doctor shopping and over prescribed she was not under the influence at that level when this happened so now we get to number four fact she's in a u.s court of law and we're all waiting to see will the jury see a guilty person trying to use postpartum depression and medications as her alibi in her defense and is that going to win or are we going to say sorry you may have had these things here but you are responsible for the death and you are going to suffer these consequences people are outside there and i'm going to take heat from about to say people out there are defending her in the name of postpartum depression when they should be calling attention to postpartum depression so we can get proper treatment for people they're calling her innocence they don't even care about the kids they don't really care about her meaning they don't really know them they don't know them but they're out there in the name of postpartum depression it's like the people that were at the floyd riots that couldn't they didn't even know who george floyd was taking advantage of the situation and levering up this is how i see it i just don't know how much we know about the human brain i don't know for me i'm like look i believe in punishment whether she should be in a hospital or jail i don't know you that'll be decided um i just don't think we have the expertise to really know i think we're going to find out and we're going to find out and we're going to find out in 20 years 30 years that we know about the brain people have psychotic breaks and we would say oh man she had she had that thing that we can now isolate maybe maybe which will throw punishment into a whole new realm i don't know man well we've done research on things like cte and now we know what football players are suffering with adam go for it look at the end of the day i just think that people are responsible for their own actions there's a lot of people that are going to make excuses well well it's like can we show that picture of the three kids again this mother murdered her three kids indisputable why it happened where what happened those were her actions and she's going to pay the price for that and and what i'm seeing right now is and i brought up this book before metaphor mars winter for venus you wrote a book about having logic but also having emotion you need both but at the end of the day emotion is all i feel i feel i feel the online world is i feel about this i feel like this you know what i'm saying i feel about this i know what's going to happen the court who's going to use evidence there's no feeling right they're going to come in and say boom guilty and then here's my opinion all the people who are living in bizarro world with their feelings here's what's going to happen luigi manjoni not a hero guilty lindsey clancy uh not a nice person guilty oh who killed charlie kirk charlie kirk yeah it was actually tyler robinson it wasn't baby it wasn't erica kirk exposed all these ridiculous i feel theories yep are going to get boom boom boom exposed that's my opinion yeah so to me this this is this is disturbing to watch it's it's i cannot even tell you how disturbing this is to me for me to watch i think she deserves a death penalty it's not even a question about it um you know sometimes you need to make an example of it and you know some people can call me extreme i really couldn't care less what you think if this is extreme you do anything to these kids they don't deserve something like this we got to make an example number two this guy here folks it's so important who you marry it is so important who you marry yesterday tony robbins was here a couple days ago and tony and i you know anthony who does a great job with bt gen z he puts he chooses the questions my mother we never know what questions this guy's going to ask us just so you know there is no prep he just asks you the question i'm sure he's going to do something with you afterwards you'll see what happens uh what the experience is like this this story right here has gone viral my brother whom gets married in two weeks sent the entire family and hers a group chat saying he is calling off the wedding because his fiancee says she supported lindsey clancy on friday and if you look at the tweet if you want to pull up the tweet so you're really breaking up with me over an effing opinion i'm not breaking up with you over an opinion i'm breaking up with you because that opinion showed me a fundamental difference in our values i can have compassion for someone struggling mentally without excusing what happened to those children if i'm choosing someone to potentially be the mother of my kids i need to trust their judgment completely especially when it comes down to protecting them what you said created a doubt in me that i can't ignore or gamble my future i like this dude bro hey listen he's just listen he's facing the music now because he's going to face the music later on when half his wealth is on the line this is i always say to young people man be ruthless about who you choose as a mate it's going to make all the difference yeah we were just talking it's the most important decision of your life when you guys were at the house and we were hanging out what a beautiful great soul chill understands your personality it was amazing you know when you see somebody marrying the right person you're just like good for you one of the greatest gifts she was solid like i the one thing about my wife smart and solid just like her feet were on the ground just grounded human being and psychological by the way you feel that yes you feel sometimes you meet a guy with a gun like oh my i went to a wedding one time and at this wedding they were doing the what do you call it the the the horror no you know how they stand back to back who's the better cook who's the better dancer who's the better this who's the better dad and green and i are at this wedding and it's who wears the uh pants in the house she raised her hands the lady and i know this guy's an alpha yeah cooked and i all i did is i just looked at his face my wife would never do that to me i looked at his face and you know what i saw i'm like wow yeah he is embarrassed he is pissed off he is annoyed but he's acting like he's Because it's funny and it's not I got in the car I said there's no way this is going to work out This guy's a man's man And he's compromising himself and he knows he's not happy By the way the guy remarried To a beautiful beautiful girl He is so happy He's on cloud nine to have a beautiful family I hope they have ten kids together But the wrong girl Can destroy your life And men have to nowadays You actually have to Like when you're going through the interview process Of who you marry Believe it or not if I'm dating a girl today I would ask and say what do you think about this These are the case study types of When I'm interviewing guys for certain jobs You know what kind of questions I ask I ask case study questions Let's just say XYZ were to happen what would you do Like we had a whole COVID At the beginning of COVID we had some HR girl That was chaotic with the way she would handle it Everything was ten Everything that would happen she would go to ten We have to shut down the department everybody go home I'm like bro relax buddy Relax buddy So then you know we started replacing And looking for another HR person You know how it would interview So John let's just say An employee in one of the departments Is coughing Goes and gets tested positive for COVID What do you do What are your next five moves Oh send everybody home Okay cool that's what you would do That's the responsible thing to do Alright fantastic we're not hiring you You're too extreme what would you do Let everybody go back to work and have them come back and work You're also extreme What do you think we should do Well number one I would ask that person to not come to the office Take a week off This is at the peak of COVID Then I would go tell the departments That are there with them And I would let them know to go take the test right now If they test positive stay home Then I would go to all the other employees One by one by one If they were at all in interaction with this person During lunch or anything I would say if you were please go take the test And then we would go back to business That's what I would do Thank you for that reasonable answer Boys men ask these types of questions Ladies You also got to ask some of these types of questions Well the questions are going to come up Eventually you're going to have to face the music But if you say she's beautiful But I love her Brian But I love her Brian She's so awesome She's got a beautiful butt I just love the body She's got a beautiful face Rogan called it voodoo panani Alright let me get to the next story I'm going to go to the next story On what we have here Next story I want to get into is Dolly Parton and Jelly Roll Both A-listers Two different approaches And I want to show you both of them Let's start off with Dolly Parton Obviously legend Lost her I remember listening to Jolene in Iran I don't know if you guys remember the Jolene song Jolene One of the greatest songs Covered by the White Stripes too Was it really? I didn't know that Amazing Jack White Jack White sings that song I didn't know that His best song he's ever sung So anyway So Dolly Parton Everybody's like Wow she was this and she was that And she was this and she was that I just want to show you a clip This is when Dolly Parton was a kid Dolly Parton was asked about Donald Trump to criticize The media was trying to get her to criticize And look at the way she handled herself Go for it I just don't get into that And so if you are deciding you may want to ask me something more serious Don't Because I'm not going to answer this Smart We have a president of the United States Who said those things on that bus I'm not addressing that I do not get into that Of course I have my opinion about everybody And everything But I learned a long time ago Keep your damn mouth shut If you want to stay in show business I'm not in politics I'm in entertainment I love her She is disciplined You're also a role model That's why I don't talk about people She was She was all She was You know how prolific songwriter she was? Do you know how special an artist this human being was? She wrote songs Any musician will tell you They are in awe of her ability to write songs She's been writing songs since she was She came up so poor I think she came up in the coal mines I mean they had no money None of them did And she I think she came from a family of See how many kids were in her family Seven I think But this gal From such an early age Literally said I'm going to be a songwriter I'm going to be a singer And she is a special talent Like I'm talking Patrick I'm talking about The kind of songwriter Everybody Sorry eleven Six brothers Five sisters Came from nothing All they had was Jesus I love that They had Jesus And they had Are you joking or are you being serious? I'm not joking They had Jesus They had Jesus They had a small church That they would go to And that's how she came up With those iron fast values And all she said is I'm going to create my way out of this problem She became one of the great American songwriters That so many other artists cover You should take a look at all the other songs She's written for other artists It's astonishing And kept her class And Donald Trump said the greatest thing Donald Trumpian answer He goes She liked me That was his eulogy Yeah She liked me She liked me But she was She was a special soul I saw something on social yesterday You prompted this thought About the song I will always love you Okay So check this out One of the greatest business decision In music history ever And the song was I will always love you Dolly Parton wrote in 1973 Vinny So this validates what he's saying As a farewell to her long time music partner Mentor Porter Wagner She wasn't writing a romantic breakup She was telling Wagner Essentially I love and appreciate you But I need to leave And build my own career Her recording reached number one In the country in 1974 Then Elvis Reaches out and wanted to record it Dolly was ecstatic This is Elvis It's 1973 Elvis had apparently already worked up His version And Dolly was invited to attend The recording session Vinny But the day before the session Elvis' manager You know the famous Colonel Tom Parker Yeah Called Dolly with a condition Elvis generally wouldn't record a song Unless his side received publishing Rights and in this case At least 50% of the publishing Dolly refused That was incredibly difficult Because having Elvis record your song In the 70s could transform A songwriter's career Dolly later said She cried all night Because she desperately wanted to hear Elvis sing it Wow What a What a Think about the business mind That's right The long term thinking But she considered the song One of the most valuable copyrights In her publishing company And wanted to publish it To preserve it for herself And then comes The incredible payoff 20 years later Whitney Houston In the movie Bodyguard In 1992 Crushed it Her version became An absolute must 14 weeks at number one On Billboard Hot 100 It eventually sold 20 million copies Yeah What It became one of the most Successful singles ever recorded By female artists Dolly still owned The publishing rights Till the day Think about how amazing She is What a great That was so unheard of Back then Wow For a female For a female That's it And by the way 1973 How old is she in 73? That's 53 years, right? Yeah So she died at 80 She died at 27 years old 27 years old Wow By the way Elvis died a year later I think Elvis died in 74 Yeah, he did What year did Elvis die? 1974 Is it 74? It was in 77 Can you type What year Elvis died? I think it was 1977 77, you're right He died in 77 Yeah, pretty wild So to piggyback on Brian So 14 people in the family Lived in a one-room cabin In Smoky Mountains The cabin had no electricity No indoor plumbing For a childhood They had to use the outhouse They drew water All the children Shared beds And she told stories About the family Sometimes paying doctors With food Including a sack of cornmeal After her birth Her mother had the first child At 15 years old She tells a great story About her mother crying Because she couldn't get She had to give all the They had little grab bags At church During Christmas And her mom didn't get one And she saw her mom crying And she said I'll give you my mommy Her mother just suffered Long-suffering woman But she loved her mother so much She's telling a story And crying over it I love her By the way, she's gorgeous She's beautiful She's as American as apple pie Look at her She's the best America Has to offer You want to talk about A story about potential? It's beautiful Yeah, seriously Look at that picture right there Vinny It's like Anna Nicole Smith Without all the She's gorgeous With a sense of humor too With a sense of humor And personality Yeah Let me tell you something About Dolly Parton I think she's the last Of her kind Because I think The political landscape Has changed so much A lot of what we're talking about Is that she was apolitical You know that she turned down The medal of freedom Three times She goes I don't even want to go To the White House I don't even want to deal with this One of my favorite quotes That she said She goes Listen I made a lot of money But I don't count my money I count my blessings And I praise the Lord above I was like You go Dolly With your bad self But She stayed close to God bro Of course Like for real Let me tell you Who the exact opposite of Dolly Parton is And I'll give you a reason why Is this guy Jelly Roll Now you can make the argument That it's literally Taylor Swift Who's basically a bandit Or country bass To go pop culture But this guy Jelly Roll He's the best He's my friend Well now he's about to be The worst homeboy No dude He's awesome Let me give you my theory Go on And let me tell you why Did you see him on Kimmel? Yeah so what He made some jokes About President Trump Okay If you can't criticize Your president You're not an American You can criticize Trump All you want But let me tell you something Buddy Let me tell you Dolly Dolly Parton I'm going to use a drink joke Right here You can use this in your set Dolly Parton Aged Tonight Miami Improv Tomorrow Miami Improv Sunday Miami Improv Adam's jokes Going through Brian Take my jokes Well Dolly Parton You know it's great That Adam thinks very highly Of himself With his ability with jokes You have to respect that This isn't a joke It's truth Make sure you're ready Here's what I want to say About Dolly and your boy Jelly Roll I don't know Jelly Roll Like that I don't know I guess he's got some songs Whatever But I've done some Research Dolly Parton Aged Like a fine wine Gracefully Gracefully beautiful likable this guy jelly roll he is the country version of bud light you're out of your mind what do i mean he's abandoned his fans and his bass and the country music that loves trump to appease the jimmy kimmel audience did we not learn the lesson from bud light adam he's joking he's making a joke okay you know what i'm saying no no i don't think he's hang on play the clip so here's here's what it is and folks let's let's run a poll hang on yeah let's run a poll and and say went too far everything's on the line nothing wrong with his joke just simple those two go for it well mr president from one fat pig to another take it from me that physical fitness is very important and trust me you'll be happy to see your penis again you think that's a good joke i do look you're copa let's see what the audience says this is good let's let them finish y'all the first time i've seen mine recently i was surprised at how cute it was it kind of looked like a little labubu doll first of all somebody wrote that for him you should not laugh at my penis so you wait wait hold on so so a couple things about jelly roll have the other clip the next day we'll come to it somebody knows him and i know a lot of people that spend a lot of time with him there's there's no better person he's the nicest human being and i mean just look at him he looks like a great guy adam let him speak adam adam you're so off on this i can't tell you you couldn't be more off the last guy you want to go about on his jelly roll he is such a generous incredible human being so talented and he was that way before he was famous and he's that way now i'm just telling you as somebody who knows him i can't defend him more he made one joke about donald trump he said as one fat pig to another so he's he's being self-deprecating okay you're that sensitive about donald trump you're protecting donald trump i'm actually not protecting donald trump at all i'm calling jelly roll the bud light i'm i'm not criticized i haven't criticized him once yeah i'm criticizing his decisions i don't know anything about him let me do this hang on let me play the clip and then go so this is the next day because he did it twice so he got all this pushback from mega voters who were not happy about his joke and then here's what he said the next day go for it what a turn of events who would have guessed i'd get more trouble with the president than rosie o'donnell i love you rosie thanks for having my back today baby some folks online were upset that i didn't treat the president with reverence and dignity but i want to remind y'all that i go by the name jelly roll i don't even treat myself with reverence and dignity one day i looked in the mirror and said you my friend are a pastry frankly i think most people were just surprised that i had any opinions at all they see a guy that looks like me and assume the only opinion i have is whether i prefer my meth crystal or classic this episode is brought to you by google chrome you think you know a browser but gemini and chrome that's new it can help you with practically anything on the web like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 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the stories keep flowing and the food tastes better because pepsi brings out more flavor more fun and more of the moment food deserves pepsi grab a pepsi zero sugar today you just a quick little note about him for a second does he make the comment about i don't really care what you think now let's be honest for a second any u.s president should be able to handle a few jokes right yes they should also be able to handle gas prices health care and the occasional international conflict but beggars can't be true look y'all i get it that some people are mad at me for goofing on trump but if you wanted me to make jokes about kamala harris you should have voted for not about you i think you're blinded by your friendship with him i don't know him at all and i'm just being how well do you know him i know him well enough okay but the average person doesn't know him at all i know but so your personal opinion frankly my friend so where are you at though tell me what because your your tiebreaker is going to be vinnie okay in a minute so vinnie a lot of pressure on you and i hope you stick to your one caveat what you think it is one caveat oh he loves he loves stand-up and so jelly's always loved stand-up so he would come stand up like i when i was i'm sure he's the bottom line the bottom line is he loves stand-up so he's probably nervous somebody wrote these jokes he's trying to do stuff all i see is a guy actually making good jokes making fun of himself saying something that is not at all politically charged even a little bit i love that he's making fun of trump i love that comedians make fun of comedians this makes me want to make yeah so this is the part this is the part i want you to listen to go for it those who threaten to stop listening to my music based on my comments last night i just want to say with conviction go right ahead because i'm going to keep speaking my truth or my name isn't post malone all right go ahead that's great look that's great i'll give the disclaimer i'm sure he's been through some stuff seems like a great guy lost a lot of weight this is zero personal i'm calculating the business decision you went on jimmy kimmel or you're saying you're saying it's a bad horrible business decision i'm with horrible business decision i'm and let me explain why because you think that i'm attacking him right right i'm attacking his decisions and this is the reason that i call jelly roll the bud light of country music is because he's abandoned his base what percent of his base do you think is country uh uh literally country country music trump maga i would say 80 90 woke audience and it wasn't just the bad that jimmy kimmel took a night off they had rosy freaking o'donnell the night before so you're basically saying i'm gonna make a business decision i'm gonna abandon my country base and i'm gonna go after kimmel's audience and just like bud light your base is gonna be like you know what jelly roll and that's what's gonna happen and you know what i think you're i think you're speaking all of a sudden all of a sudden i think i think if you were his agent i'd be listening to you yeah that's that's my point and that's the case like see like and this is this is why you know i'm from personal experience and i've seen clips of him and how he treats fans and i think it's also a good guy but oh yeah and i i don't doubt that at all i don't even think he's political i don't i don't think so because by the way he's met and hung up and talked with trump at that when the ufc fights um i know he's recently divorced and all that and you know put put all that aside but as a business decision i think he's right because why why would anybody like think about the jimmy kimmel show jimmy kimmel is one of the most tds gone people and and to me every time behind every liberal trump hating man is a liberal wife because he's a beta and she's in charge you know who's the head writer of his show who jimmy kimmel's wife is that true she's the writer google connor look up who's the head writer i think what you're saying and it makes sense what you're saying is that if you're going to go on a a show like jimmy kimmel who clearly has deep animosity to trump and is very hollywood and we know we watched him go from being a bro and actually funny to be in this thing that it's like it's hard to kind of because think about this go woke molly go bro molly he went woke molly mcnerney is the coal head writer bro that's why the show is losing and i just feel like and like you said as an agent as a decision it went from jimmy kimmel to rosie o'donnell i why would why would they even let somebody come up there it's not it's not going to do anything but hurt your career because your country the country loves the majority of these people are trump people why would you go on that and it's a joke i'm a comedian it's a joke i get you why would you as an agent let him go on there and crap his family because because when you get to hollywood it is a very seductive thing here it is and this is what it is and there's money and he's about to lose money he's been struggling his whole life like like yeah there's a lot that goes on and i i i think he's sold out just say he's sold out well i think what he did was i don't even think he thinks that way i think he's just a guy who wants to make everybody happy he's just such a good i think to your point though is his agent yeah i think you'd be like i think i think the agent right if they had if they had james carville like hey i hate trump okay good job another i know we want to move on i'm an agent like what thank you you just said thank you now i'm now thank you as his business manager i'm going hey i think we choose another show yeah yeah yeah go host conan by the way real quick who do you think he voted for trump or kamala uh jellyball i wouldn't be surprised if it was trump but i don't think he voted for trump yeah yeah that's my point i was speculating that he probably voted for trump he's gonna and for fame for hollywood fame let's go bro let's go it's not that important okay no you made a joke great jelly roll go do your thing and you know just be aware that you also have a lot of loyal people on the other side i think he did an interview with somebody that afterwards you're like you just fell in love with the guy like i i messaged him i'm like what a freaking great interview you did and he messaged back and uh yeah but you know listen as you have to be careful this this is a very weird space that you're maneuvering through like i remember one time the rock did that one video where are you where are you yeah and it was he was voting for biden and he was calling out trump and i'm like that's a weird video and then he's like dude i'm not doing any of this political bullshit again moving forward he learned from his uh mistake and he stepped away and by the way rock is probably you know what i'm saying he's probably conservative straight let's just yeah yeah yeah no i'm just saying he's probably straight all right let's go to the next story next i'm going to get into is uh a story about dad brain and then i'm going to go to the presidential ranking of trump piker cuban uh uh and we'll do the outcast video which you guys got to see but let me go to this dad brain uh story which i read the other day i'm like it's actually a very interesting story this is a story of what happens to men when they become fathers okay what happens to men when they become fathers i mean obviously none of that is happening right now there are three fathers here and two that are probably eventually going to be one god willing but here's what this book says dad brain new science of fatherhood and how it shapens men's lives by kevin mcguire he says number one male brain changes with fatherhood men experience measurable neurological changes when they become actively involved fathers brain systems associated with empathy vigilance attachment planning and caregiving become more engaged in other words nurturing isn't exclusively a maternal biology fathers men become nurturing and protected number hormones change fatherhood can alter testosterone oxycodone crystal uh cortisol and other hormones testosterone often declines somewhat highly involved fathers while bonding related systems become more active these changes may shift men from competition and mating toward protection and caregiving huh all right three involvement matters simply having a child isn't the whole story the more time a father spends holding feeding comforting playing with teaching and caring for the child the more time a father spends holding feeding comforting playing with the child the more those caregiving systems are reinforced fatherhood is partly biological but it's also somewhat men protecting practice themselves into children change fathers and fathers change children the relationship works in both directions children influence their fathers brains and behavior while engaged fathers can influence children's emotional regulation uh confidence social development risk taking number five fatherhood reshapes identity many men experience a profound transition from thinking primarily about themselves and their ambitions to thinking about legacy responsibility protection and meaning six fathers struggle two new fathers can experience anxiety depression isolation relationship stress sleep deprivation and feeling of inadequate inadequacy and alas banalis there isn't one correct way to father the science challenges the stereotype that fathers must behave like mothers to be valuable fathers can bring different form of play to their children and their families and their families and their families and form of play, challenge, exploration, discipline, humor, and calculated risk that can complement maternal parenting. Tom, do you agree with this? Well, he's claiming he's got a study. He's claiming he's really dove into it. So I don't want to challenge his data, and I'm not going to, but I will say this. You know, once you have kids, there is a sense of protection. You're more aware, I think, of the things that are going on in the world, especially with girls. And so is that a chemical change in my brain or is that a natural um just in the natural response to me going from being a guy to being a husband to being a father biologically to being a dad in all senses of the word and so being protective um in motorsports it's really classy they um it's classic they will say that when a guy loses a couple tents or he loses a little guts they'll say well the phone rang he's a dad now he's not racing the way he did when he was 28 before his kids were born um a formula one drivers have said that about each other and says uh i can take a little bit of different chance here not suicidal but i don't think he will because now that he's got kids he's become a slightly different driver and so i see it through those lenses because i'm familiar with that sport quite a lot and i have seen it and the drivers deny it i'm the same guy i was i'm just competitive i won and people say in certain circumstances maybe maybe not um but i think there is a change can i validate that it's a chemical change and everything happened to me i don't think so but i'm more protective aware and i wanted to be a great dad and make sure that that i was there and provided education and so there's different things i was thinking about that i never even considered when i was merely a husband or even before before i was married but i was an uncle yeah and by the way the story you're talking about is of uh alonzo was going up against schumacher and he said i knew i would overtake him i knew he would break because he has a wife and two kids at all that's true though because what happens is when you have children i got four kids your provider protector part of your brain takes over all the other stuff so i was with a bunch of guys just you know guys who were kind of single 40 and just talking about all the just the life and i thought to myself there's none of that in my brain all i'm constantly thinking about is i got the two-year-old four-year-old i got the 15-year-old got the 18-year-old in college so i'm so consumed with all of that stuff i gotta i gotta make sure they're okay that's a lot that's a lot of planning it just dawned on me that i don't even think about that stuff anymore i lost all my mojo but i'm happy i did in a way i think there's something beautiful and very very um the best thing in a lot of ways i never thought i'd say this is that when you're a father you are a hundred percent in a position of service if you're a husband and a wife i mean i'm sorry if you're a father and a and a husband you're you're basically you're basically it's all about service but that takes a lot of pressure off you in a weird way because you're just thoughts you know uh look i don't have dad brain i'm just trying to avoid dad bod at this point but one day maybe uh let's just say i'm taking notes adam's got this town locked down i've never he's never come to my show where he didn't have there was a very colorful group of people and they were all very fun to look at almost all female so whatever he's doing is oh uh no i think it's i think it's it's interesting i mean i know how i am just around my my nieces and my nephews and that feeling of like i don't i don't know because i'm not a father but i feel that sense of urgency the protection even when i'm around pat's kids or or tom's kids you're great it's like oh i love them and i love them and because i i you know see them and i see the beauty and i see god and all of them because they're so freaking amazing they haven't been corrupted by anything yet it's just play and they have that that light and they're literally angels so that's what you know when i hear stories about clancy which drive me crazy but i i i i could see how it turns pat from like you're that guy the 40 year old guy to like oh my god my everything now is focused on on this do you remember magnolia that movie tom paul thomas hamerson yes and and what's his name the character says it is not a mistake to confuse angels with children was it philip no it was the other guy i know you're the guy on on uh whatever it's called but it was such a powerful move it's like it's true he had braces on i know i know you're talking angels and children are kind of the same thing by the way you know it is it is very true but i want to show you this clip because go for play this clip this is the this is the moment driver in f1 and in 2005 he would say something that is still remembered to this day and they show what it was about which part it was 20 years ago at the japanese grand prix where alonzo started 16th and had 59 laps to get into the points to secure renault the constructors championship title that's lap 18 he was behind the ferrari of michael schumacher and he had his eyes on the seven-time world champion at the apex alonzo's renault r25 reached 340 kilometers an hour schumacher the biggest bully on the grid at the time was slaughtered by a young driver after the race alonzo was asked about how he managed to overtake schumacher and all he said was i knew he would break because he has a wife and two kids at home damn so it's so true by the way that's at the track called suzuka and it's the 130r corner which is one of the most ferocious corners in f1 history yeah so this is like to be able to do that at that moment he's already got the seven championships and all that other stuff but i i think you know when when my dad would say you've changed you've changed so what do you mean i've changed kids are changing you've changed you've changed you've changed they are literally going to change you and people are going to see you and boys change you in a different way than girls change you i got two boys two girls they're going to change you and it's a beautiful thing that happens uh and it's a show for everybody around you that they see you go through it it's entertainment for the people around you that witnessed this reality taking place all right let me get to the next story by the way how do the boys change you versus the girls change you uh listen you know in in i'm writing a book right now on fatherhood you know we don't know when it's going to come out next year two years three years but one of the things is that every one of us men especially as you age you're trying to be a man but you're a 46 year old still acting like a little boy and you don't even know it your selfish score is super high you're 32 years old and you're still thinking about but i don't want to give up the party and but i don't want to give up this and i you're still the boy of you better you still have all those boy tendencies let me tell you when you have a boy they're either going to force it out of you or you will be exposed you don't have a choice you will be exposed people going to see that you're either going to become a man so imagine like you you were a 16 year old boy you're a 27 year old boy man you're a 35 year old boy man but maybe at 17 years old you were 90 boy 10 man maybe at 28 years old you're 70 boy 30 man maybe at 36 years old at 40 boy 60 man but even that 40 it'll be forced out of you because because you're like you you're giving kids advice on what to do and you're not even listening to yourself you're like wait a minute how are you trying to shape somebody else when you're you're a hypocrite so you're constantly going to be pressured with hypocrisy of your own self and that's like yeah but i'm different but let me tell you but he's got to learn from the mistakes and i'm not accountable to it but it's for him because i want him but i can get away with these no you can't bro it is gonna it is gonna just go bam bam bam and you're either gonna say you know what i don't want to give up being a boy or no man i want to be a man you're gonna go through none of us are free from it how does the girl change you oh it's like glass it's like crystal it's like weight delicate like we went to a restaurant the other day and i said this story a little bit senna says that man is looking at me to mom mom whispers it to me that when she went to the bathroom a guy was looking i said wait what babe he's 10 years old who was it but babe don't do anything but it's that guy right there so all of a sudden me maral tikrin and vinny we're all looking at him like this the assyrian mafia this guy looks at us and he's like what he doesn't know what the hell's why are these guys looking at me like that and we're just like this everybody for like when i tell you we're looking at him like this for a good minute he's sitting there and then the people he's sitting across probably 55 years old they start looking at us and i'm trying to get him and he was a sketchy guy away are they from you 10 yards oh sketchy guy and i'm looking at him and then senna comes to me and says dad it's probably nothing he's probably just a fan and you know he's probably just i said no no babe no 25 year old looks at a 10 year old for that long so the entire time every move the girls made going to the bathroom so vinny's going with them and we're always strapped like we're ready something happens but you know you you become overly protective over your your you think you have imagination until you have a daughter when you have a daughter your imagination of what you can do to a man that harms your daughter you will realize how creative we are and by the way when they turn when they turn teenagers they want to get away from you oh they hate you but you're just like what i do what about like the positive attributes of that no like you'll kill somebody you're you're gonna be you you you realize how gentle you have to be with these people it's gonna it's gonna force you to become gentle and but also you just have to realize you know what you did to some girls other boys are gonna do to your girls too that's it just be ready you know so it's like boys are easier because you can i might joke but it's true it's like boys are easier because i can i can keep them in line because i can threaten them with violence it's like you don't want to do that would you rather die he's right i can't do that my daughter as much as he's joking it's real my daughter is six years old game the system she knew i couldn't do it she knew i'd be like and she'd be like no and i'm like i'd go to her mother i'd be like you deal with it i can't what's your technique if you can't hit her you freak out i would just there's nothing you can do you got to just figure out you got to manipulate you got to figure it out boys they're afraid of you my daughter wasn't afraid of me she was like there you go well listen one day if it ever happens you you will tell us all right next story i want to get to uh is the president yesterday decides to post a tweet of the greatest presidents of all time and the market loses their shit he's so hilarious he puts himself as the greatest at the top can you zoom in a little bit look at his face he puts great he puts great as lincoln go a little bit can you oh you can't zoom okay great he puts lincoln washington fdr and all these other you know wilson jefferson and all these other people whatever okay so then average jackson jackson he puts bill clinton he puts all these other guys and then below average he puts all these other guys and then failures biden obama i think carter's got to be somewhere there at the end he is yeah he's right there grant and all these other guys as failures ulysses s grant ulysses s grant was not a good president he was a good general but he was vp of lincoln i think he was the replacement that came two terms after lincoln because he fought for him he went and won the war for him amazing so now everybody's going to be like oh my god everybody watches they're like wait a minute you're missing reagan where is reagan so is reagan average it's right now it's enough is he this is he that and people don't realize this is actually an article that was from 1948 okay that he took and he put great near great average he's so funny but he took that additional failures and he added obama and carter so good but the funny thing is mr president how do you not add reagan as great yeah come on you messed up on how you're not at reagan as great and i know one time he was uh i don't know which press conference it was he says listen nude a lot of people say you know i'm you know greatest uh says now mr president you're not yet the greatest i don't know if you guys ever seen this exchange have you seen this with new new it's for not i don't know if you gotta look like to find you gotta find it i don't have to guys in the back and reagan and what were they talking about literally on stage and it's like a newton trump or newt gingrich and trump this is like two years ago oh this is recent this is recent 18 months ago says no sir you're not the greatest but you know you you could get there it's like yeah i don't know i don't know if i agree with them i think so it's such a funny exchange this is come on guys find that this is so important to him so how do you process this how do you probably mean well first of all who brought this to him because that means yeah he's probably sitting around going i'm the best and somebody goes you know what mr president there presidents because then if you think about it too because of everything where would you put uh reagan i don't think it would fit inside like i think he would be great yeah i think yeah but leaving him out was was probably intention on purpose look you're this guy it people have a lot of criticisms there is a certain genius to trump and there one is his ability to distract people from what's really going on and two he's just funny man he just comes up with funny stuff and being somebody who's who can gobble up all the airtime all of it yeah well and guys can we go back to the to the new list not the 1948 list there you go how many did he add other than himself just three at the bottom so funny oh and clinton yeah so there's there's a story here he actually respects clinton he does yeah i mean he's basically saying listen you're not the worst he often says there's a president that calls me and we talk a lot and he's talking about i think there's a respect for clinton now don't don't get me started on when he brought the three sexual harassment lady charges at the debate bill clinton looked like he was saw a ghost but obama biden and of course he he puts your boy jimmy carter in there a lot of this is what we're dealing with in iran let's be let's be frank is because of jimmy carter's fecklessness and his weak approach to iran so trump is in basically dealing with jimmy carter's mess right now that's my saying this yeah by the way i found the clip but it's it's an hour that we have to go through so we got the time people no no we don't have the time but it's a very very funny cancel your show of them having a conversation uh about it all right let me get to the next story next story is uh uh uh is uh what's this guy that was on jesse waters i keep messing up his name i'm not doing it on purpose what is his name i'll say f abdul al-sayef or al-sayed okay don't say my name if you don't know my life he is on uh jesse waters and they're having a cordial conversation until all of a sudden he asks if jesse waters is circumcised which is kind of weird you don't look we don't ask that question every day you know it's not good we go around saying vinnie are you you just don't do that but it happened here thursday watch this clip go for it sex changes for minors do you support that this episode is brought to you by google chrome you think you know a browser but gemini and chrome that's new it can help you with practically anything on the web like restoring a vintage motorcycle from a 50 page restoration blog or finally break down that long article you've had open for weeks gemini and chrome is here for it ready to make anything online make sense there's no place like chrome check responses set up 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legislation the idea that the government shouldn't tell you what kind of health care you should have i just think the government shouldn't tell you what kind of health care you should have and if you're a minor you want to try on kids now if you disagree with that if you disagree with that if you disagree that health care decisions need to be made by a doctor and their parents and a patient then i just we think we agree to disagree but you know you want to put government inside so abdul you're a doctor right selectively i am so you think it's okay for a parent to slash his kids you think that's okay i mean do you so do you really want to have this conversation are you circumcised oh my god yeah yeah but i mean that's a personal question okay doctor you probably should want to move on you probably should want to move on you probably should want to move on a circumcision is different than castration i think it's a problem it's a problem that you think that you get to decide what happens between a parent a doctor and a patient and i'm just saying that yes this whole conversation is surgery on a kid's ding-a-ling so if you want to bring that up you can yeah watch the whole thing it's all this it was all this feel dumber after that so how do you feel about it i'll go i'll come to you first how do you feel about it i mean do i think that minors should have life-altering sexual surgery absolutely not do i think it's actually evil i do i feel that strongly about it do i think do i if somebody wants to be transgender as an adult yeah you want me to call you something sure if you're great at your job i'll probably hire you but children like hey hey listen now children's brains are changing let me ask you a question what do you think are the chances that he 100 believe that does not you know that there's no way a young child should be able to transition what is core to the core you know what i think about this guy what bill i'll say it i actually think i think he's syrian i think he's i think he's a caption i believe yeah he's i think he's a capitalist i think he's made a lot of money in the marketplace i think at the end of the day he's probably way more moderate than people think but if you're gonna get the base you've gotta you've gotta dance around these issues that the hardcore left with all that energy supports so when you're in politics he's stuck in prison for a long time i guarantee the guy if you ask him i guarantee in private he's like what with surgery for minors no he feels very actually normal to me but he's being cast as this far left socialist well let me do he even said he goes i'm a capitalist hassan piker said that he this guy right here is faking moderation just to manipulate people okay this is hassan piker i don't know if you have the story or not and by the way him and piker have taken selfies together pictures together they can paint together they're actually friends so it's not like it's an enemy but is this the one go go ahead go forward to be a lot of people who are already uh questioning abdullah syed's uh uh sincerity on these issues uh that will then turn around and say oh he's he's you know he's uh moderating his position on israel all this stuff i don't think he is okay i will say this i am literally the person that is being dangled and i'm going to tell you once again he's not moderating on his his perspective on israel or anything like that okay his reaction is always very good which is look i deal with people that i don't fully agree with and and don't fully subscribe to on a daily basis this is politics politics is about uh addition not subtraction where he says that it's smart it's the right way to it's the right way to deal with it and then deflect back to the issues because they are the engaging in the deflection okay okay so you're saying he said in the beginning that he's just deflecting is that what you're saying is that kind of how you guys process this he is saying that he's deflecting but and he's saying he's in what page is that story on i'm gonna say 12 and 13 page 12 and 13 where he says assam piker bragg so this is daily wire that is faking moderation to scam voters okay so maybe they're exaggerating what he said the words and what he said twitcher stream it's on market is the only person this i'm literally the person that is being dangled and i'm going to tell you once again he's not moderating on his perspective the storm erupted after piker accused american institutions of making anti-semitism worse warned that supporting israel honors house majority hakim jeffries called remarks dangerous and anti-semitic and a hack who thrives on hate shock and awe is what representative hillary shoulton said l site issued a statement that nobody speaks for his campaign beside me but refused to drop piker calling his infamous america deserve 9-11 remark just a dumb statement republican mike rogers abdul attempt at distancing himself from the violent and hateful rhetoric is the epitome of what a con man does tom where are you at with this i'll tell you where i'm at and you said something he said he was appealing to the base i agree with you but i like to change the word the block the block because the big tent has got a bunch of voting blocks in it and this shows you how the liberal democrat big tent makes you look so crazy because you go on interviews and you say things because you're trying to pander or protect each of the voting blocks you've got that's right and you've got a bunch of voting blocks that are that are in the same cardboard box right so let's see we'll put a pit bull puppy in with a couple kittens probably going to be fine that's what's happening and i i actually believe what hassan piker is saying he's saying yeah he's moderating himself to to do this or that i think he's right i don't think this this l syed i don't think he's sincere i do not think we saw that it was a weird look how look how kind of cumbersome the interview was with jesse I'm not buying it, Pat. I'm not buying it at all. I think he was pandering to individual blocks, and he is who he has previously said he is, and it shows you the lunacy of the big tent. Because when you're in the big tent, and you're the—you can't go in and say, I believe in liberty, capitalism, freedom. I'm a Christian, and I believe that life is precious, and that's the foundation on which I stand. You can find all of my feelings about taxes, about federalism, everything growing out of that platform. You can't. When you're in the big tent, you put all these—I've got cactus flowers, rocks, and grass. It's like it doesn't work. It doesn't work at all, and I think that's what we're seeing here. We're even having trouble decoding it. Imagine how they feel back with, how do you do? Well, you hit these talking points, but not those talking points. Pat, can you see how troubling this would be? How would you, as a Democrat strategist, coach him, say, yeah, that's great. Do the same thing tomorrow on Rogan. What time? So you're saying this dude, he's Abdul Al-Sayed, he's a Muslim dude, so you mean to tell me he's concealing or denying stuff that he actually believes in? It sounds like something called the Qiyam. I know you're being sarcastic. That's exactly what I'm saying. Yeah, because, bro, he's a Muslim. The first answer should have been no. Do you believe it's good for underage kids to get their genitalia cut off or their breasts cut off? It's a simple no, because I don't know if you guys know this or not. Most Muslims think no, right? Overwhelming—bro, if you—like, and the LGBT— LGBTQ community—bro, all these guys that are pushing, like the Mamdani's, Brian, in the Muslim community, you would get freaking outcasts if they don't kill you, especially in the Middle East. So this whole—yeah. Guess what? You think he'd let his kids be, hold on, any gay kids or chop off their genitalia? Are you absolutely nuts? This is a movement, bro, I'm telling you right now, when they are not the majority, they're the minority, it's, yeah, we love gays. Mamdani, gays. Bro, Muslims in general, Islam in general, they are not welcoming to this freaking attitude and this behavior. Are you, don't, don't be fooled, okay? They're the minority. When it's the majority, it's a rat, bro, and they all love, he's a Sharia law loving, all these guys, don't, don't sleep on these people, bro. Don't sleep on them. He easily could have said no, because it's, it is a no. Go ahead. Remember what Bill Maher said? He said, it's phases. Kids go through phases. You don't respond to it. He said, when I was eight years old, you'll like this, Callan, Bill Maher said, I said I wanted to be a pirate. I am so glad my parents didn't send me out for eye removal and peg leg surgery. It's great. It's so true. It's so true. And it's like, give me a fight. It's actually, you're, it's a joke, but it's actually very, it's very true. I mean, it makes sense. And how do we get to, my question is, and I say this, I say this often, and I'm not going to use evil or, one side, bro, one side is the conservative trying to be Christian. They're trying to live like Christ and try to be better people. The other side is anti-God. Nick, can you name me one outspoken Democrat that loves Jesus Christ and loves the Lord? Go ahead. I just, I, but see. But I'm asking you, can you? But this country was founded on the idea that that's a private matter between a man and his God, right? I don't mind that. I'm just saying, I always worry that with politics, you got to go, I'll say it. I actually don't know how he thinks or what he's thinking. My feeling is the way he's been living his life. He's making money off the capitalist system. That's his job. All that stuff. He played football. He feels pretty. He feels, but like, watch this. As a politician, whether you're a Republican or Democrat, if you came out and you said, hey, you know what the problem with some minority community is, is fatherlessness and lack of accountability. Good luck. Your strategist would be like, you can't tell the truth that way, dude. You got to, you got to dance here. But what does it say about that? But Brian, what does it say about that side? Because that side, I, like, for instance, that side kills people. Brian, if they don't agree with you. You know, you know, you know what it is. This is, this is kind of how I see this is Adam Silver. Charles Barkley came out and pull up this clip. I'll say it. I'll send it to you. It's on my Twitter. If you go on my Twitter account and I'll make these two make sense to you. So Charles Barkley is being asked the following question. Guess what? What do you think Charles Barkley's ever said about lesbians and gays and LGBTQ community? You know what he's always said? He is always defended him. Yeah. Always. Because I think he has a relative. That's I don't know who it is, but somebody is to play this clip and look what he says about what the WNBA is doing. And I'm going to bring this to the Democratic Party. Go for it. I always support the gay community. I always support the transgender community. I got numb and love and respect for gay people and transgender people. But under no circumstances do I think men should play against women. Zero. I'm disappointed in Adam Silver and Kathy, the commissioner. All the first one, you can't let stupid stuff go out to the Internet, which is the one of the worst things that will happen to the world. They should have come out two weeks ago before all this. The people looking for attention now, just including this guy. But he has a point, though, because Kathy and Adam haven't said, hey, it's in the title. We're not going to have transgender people in the WNBA, and we're not going to discuss it again. That's what Adam and Kathy should have done two or three weeks ago before they turn it over to the Internet. And every fool, idiot and jackass to have an opinion on Adam. Adam should come out and Kathy. I like both of them a lot. There's no transgender people going to play in the WNBA. The guy on the right is nervous. If you don't like it, kick rocks. He's expecting a different answer. And we're not going to discuss it. Okay. He's a Democrat. This is not a guy that's a— What he's saying is not crazy. That's what I'm saying to you. So check this out. If the WNBA continues bullshitting around and doing this, I believe they're hiding that men competed in WNBA. But that's my opinion. I believe that is the reason why they're delaying. That's a heavy— I've been saying this for the last few months now. Really? I've been saying this for a minute. Yes. I believe men have competed. And for them to come out, they have to wait for certain men to retire or leave so they can do it quietly and not address it. Because it's so common sense that you would have already done it six months, 12 months ago. Okay? That's what I believe. I could be wrong, but that's what I believe. This simple question that you can't answer, do you believe kids should be able to choose to transition? If Democrats can't answer that question, that is going to hurt them in 2028, general election, not primary, in the general election. Because someone in the debate is going to ask AOC that question, and what is she going to do? Is she going to fumble? Someone's going to ask that question. How are you going to answer that? The Republicans are going to say what? I don't believe men belong in women's sports. I don't believe any puberty blockers or gender transition before you're 18 years old. Whatever you do with your body when you're an adult, it's up to you. That's common sense. We're not saying don't be a transgender, don't be gay. No, no. That's common sense. After adult, you're an adult, make your decision. Vote for whoever you want. Do your thing. So I think this is going to hurt the Democratic Party. But when you're dealing in small little markets like this that you're competing for, it probably won't. I think it is on the general side. Adam, final thoughts and then we'll move on. I have an opinion on the Democratic Party. This is why they're moving so far left. They are refusing to come to the middle on social issues, and that's why they're going so hard on economic issues. They're basically saying wealth tax, tax more, tax, tax. To basically hide the ball, no pun intended, from the social issues that they are not willing to compromise on. They are not willing to say that men should not play in women's sports. They're not willing to do it. It's the weirdest hill to die on. They're going to die on that hill. And because they're unwilling to move there, they say, all right, let's just go further left on the economy. And let's see how that works. But to me, this guy El-Sayed, I was speculating this and I did some research. I was like, who are the famous? Arab or Muslim Republicans? And then I was like, why are there none? That is weird. It's a great, great. Because they seem like they would be more conservative and more on the Republican side. You think? Actually, I think a lot of them are. Am I wrong? Yes. That's what I'm saying. I think El-Sayed feels like he's. Some guy from Egypt who advocates for Sharia law doesn't condemn it. You're telling me that dude is cool with trans and men playing in women's sports? And the LGBT and the abortion. Yeah, he feels like a closet conservative. Yeah, it's almost like when they get her to America, they say, all right, we have to pretend to be something. We're not Adam. And we have to hijack the Democratic Party. We're going to become part of the DSA and we're just going to get the power. It's almost like this is some sort of plan, because if you're telling me this guy was in Egypt, respect to the Arabs, respect to the Muslims, no disrespect. I doubt there's a big LGBTQ community going. I don't know what's going on in Cairo right now. I don't think that's happening. I think he grew up in Michigan, too. No, but that's your family roots. To me, I think they're playing a part. And I just don't see Ilhan Omar doing abortions, which I'll have you get them. I'm going to play this last clip and then we'll wrap up. So here's Andre 3000 from OutKast, whom I love. He's being asked about rapping. And does it get to a point where you're too old to rap? And he says something that is so flippant funny where you're like, maybe I'm too old to rap. Maybe this guy's got a point. OK, go for it. Like even now, like people think, oh, man, he's just sitting sitting on raps or like he's just holding or holding these raps hostage. Like I ain't got no raps like this is it actually feels sometimes it feels inauthentic for me to rap because I don't have anything to talk about in that way. Like I'm 48 years old and not not to say that age is a thing that dictates what you rap about, but in a way it does. And like things that happen in my life, like what do you talk like? I got to go get a colonoscopy. Like what do you rap about? You know what I mean? Like my eyesight is going bad. That's so he's so great. And this is so true. It's so true. I was I got these somebody gave me these jeans and they had a hole in them. They were stylish. I go, I'm too old. I'm not wearing cool jeans, bro. I'm wearing regular. I'm wearing collared shirts now. But see, but you know what? I guarantee you he could make a sick album. Just on that. Just on fatherhood. Just on the awkwardness. He's brilliant. Colonoscopy. Brilliant. That would be so because he could do it. He's anybody could do it. It would be him. That's great. You know who didn't get the memo is Uncle Snoop because Snoop's out there. Well, he's still still doing his thing. He hasn't he hasn't written a rap song in 30 years. He's just doing this. But he's still getting out there doing his hits. Yeah. By the way, it was just a 30 year anniversary of the their first album. A.T. Aliens. This one right here. 30 years ago. I remember listening to that album in me and you, your mama and your cousin to rolling out a strip on wall coming out slamming Cadillac. Oh, I met the second on the way. But anyway, but I could see he's so talented. He's so good. Maybe he don't do rap no more. Do do the blues. Do some jazz. Don't just hang them up. You're that good. Yeah, I think big boy is his partner in crime. I think he's still out there doing his thing. All right. All right. All right. All right. I don't know. - Every rapper I've ever worked with, I've worked with some really famous, you know, I did a movie with Ice Cube, The rappers that have been around for a long time, whether it was like Queen Latifah or Ice-T or Ice-T. They all become actors. No, it's not just that. One of the things, the secret with them, and by the way, same thing with Lil Wayne. If you actually, if you're around them, you know that they were all straight-A students. They're all goody-two-shoes. They're all super smart, super disciplined. It's the ones that have a one hit and they disappear. These guys are business people. They're creative off the top of it. It's crazy. Do you know how talented you have to be to freestyle and do stuff like that? Get it. Forget it. Anyway. You know who else said this? 50 Cent said the same thing as well. He says, you're not supposed to be the hottest rapper at 60. You guys see this? I just sent you guys the clip if you want to go to it. It's a young man's game. Yeah, but I mean, look. I mean, do you remember when his song was? You can find me in the club. I was in the military. When that came out, it's like, I don't care where you were. They were playing in weddings. What year was that? After being shot nine times. Count them. Nine times. And said when he was in the back of that cab. By the way, gets in the back of a cab to go to the hospital. Like a man. Like a man. Ambulance. Ambulance. I'm not tipping you. And he said, I bled out all my fear in the back of that cab. Have you ever read the book, The 50th Law by Robert Greene and 50 Cent? I've never read that, but I've interviewed Greene. So, he explains that one of the marketing tactics they did, which was phenomenal. He's about to drop an album, and he pays one of his guys to just come and shoot up the recording studio. News finds out saying, they don't want me to release my album because they know it's very hard. And that becomes like, people were lining up for the album to come out. This guy is a genius and a half. Go for it. Only giving us music as themes, and intros. Yeah, I'm not trying to be in the way. See, look, hip hop culture is connected to youth culture. You are not supposed to be the hottest in nothing at 60. Fuck that, man. You can still do your shit. Like, you can still sing, and there's love music. It don't never. But you've never felt like you still have one more album in you. No, I still got love for music. I'm never going to lose that. Like, I'm always want to do something. And those are like entries. Look, this is me putting a little piece or tab something in there for them to hear. Did I still do it? Did I still got it? But you ain't got it. You ain't given us. I don't need it. I can't come. I know you bust their ass right now. But my music is not about me. Put them niggas out. Give me and I do the shit from 03 and fuck them up right now. From 03. Right now. You're 20 years later. It's so true, though. It is so true. Tom, I know you're in great shape. You're in your 60s. Does this dissuade you from wanting to become a professional rapper? I know you got that. Good question, Adam. I know you got some lyrics. Good question. I've been quiet here for a while. This is not just about rap music. What they're talking about is youth and yearning and having a message and things. And when you go and you take a look like people like Neil Young, you know, and he was singing about Vietnam and all the things that go with that. When you go through the arc into the arc of success, it's hard to be the credible counterculture poet, whether it's rock and roll or folk and Neil Young and Joni Mitchell going way back or hip hop. I mean, you go and you take a look at the Rolling Stones now. They're 80 years old with organ replacement, still going on tour. But they can still do it at that point. No, they can do it. They can still do it. But what are they doing? They're doing the old stuff. All the new stuff sounds like old stuff. And there's nothing new about it. Respectfully. That's the point. Focus on the hip hop for a second. I know you got some skills. Oh, yeah. I'm not. Come on. By the way, let me tell you, one of the greatest openings to a song that that can you pull up the clip I just sent you? I cannot tell you during that time they made this guy so famous because this this this reverend that comes out who says we're not. Against rap, we're not against rappers, Bone Thugs-N-Harmony took this. Oh, good. And it go ahead. Press play. We're not against rap. What a perfect. We're not against rappers, but we are against those thugs. Do you know what song is the song? It's the thug is wrong. They started it off. Go back to the beginning again. The song starts with this guy. So can we play the song? We can't play the song. Go back to it. Go back to it. Play rap. No, no. Oh, you got to hear the whole thing. Go back to the beginning. But we are against those thugs. To the beginning. Who? I didn't realize this was a new video. We're not against rappers. Oh, this is a real. Thugs. Thugs. Thugs. They opened the flipping song with this. Shout out to Busy Bone and Crazy Bone and Bone Thugs-N-Harmony. Listen, the moment we get off. Okay. I'm going to play this. How do you not know this song? I know the song. I didn't know that that was. Cleveland East 99 Eternal. Yeah, my bad. You know the song. I know the song. I know the song. Yeah, my bad. You know your rap, huh? I'm a hip hop. My first job on a college. NBA and rap attached. Jewish hip hop. Comedy. Listen to Yanni all the time. Don't get him. Let him fool you. He's a Yanni guy. Old school Yanni. He's got a Yanni tattoo on his back. Yes. Yeah. All right. You know what? I'm going to get you a Garshuk. I got you. You know, it's just a hip hop and everything. I mean, I always wonder why we take from our women, where we came from our women, and they hate on their women. I just don't understand. Thank you, Tupac. Respect you. All right, Tom. The one. The one. Listen, the one. Take from our women and make with our women. The one. Hey, Tom. I don't know if you know this. The blacker the berry, the sweeter the juice. Oh, damn. I don't know. I'm not. The one artistic medium that's exempt from age is stand up comedy, ladies and gentlemen. So that's all I have to say. And where you at? Where you at? Where you at? Amy Improv this weekend, baby. Tonight, tomorrow, and Sunday. Three days? Yeah. Vinny, you come by. You know I'm going to go leave. Hey, can we put the link below? There he is. Put the link below for the schedule. Put it in the chat. Put it in the description. Go support the man in town. Funny as hell. Like I said at the beginning, top five scenes in movies that I will watch over and over again. He was one of them. And that's the scene when they go to you, motherfucker. You don't remember me, Andy? I thought this guy was going to eat my dick. Callan. Vinny, look at this. I know, dude. I know. I got to get better. I got to get better. All right, gang. Have a great weekend. You look good. By the way, we're not doing a podcast on Monday, right? No podcast on Monday? I don't think so. We don't have a podcast. I don't know if we are. But are we doing it or no? Thumbs up or thumbs down? No. We're not. I want FLB loafers, man. I want some of these loafers. We're going to get it for you. Oh, this Monday? No podcast Monday. We will be in Las Vegas. And we look forward to seeing all of you guys. But I do think we come back on Friday. But we do have quite a few interviews. Senator Ted Cruz is going to come out. Tony Robbins is going to come out. By the way, this Tony Robbins interview, as good as the first one was, this is ten times better than the first one. Then we have Sammy the Bull Gravano. And I think we've got a couple other interviews I forgot that's still coming out, right, that we have in the hopper. Anyways, take care, everybody. Bye-bye, bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. We are outgunned and we are outmanned. But we have each other. FX's The Bear, the final season. All episodes now streaming on Disney+.

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