Trump's Primetime Address, Israel Aid Revolt, and the World Cup's Final Chapter
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President Trump is expected to make a big primetime speech tonight covering, among other things,
the latest on Iran and election integrity.
Thank God, election integrity.
One advisor says there will be a potpourri, and Trump himself says he has really big news.
He alluded to it earlier this week.
Let's listen to a clip.
Your big announcement on Thursday night regarding election machines and integrity.
Can you give us sort of a sneak peek about what to expect?
Well, I'd rather save it.
It will concern that subject, and we'll have a couple of other things to say also.
But I'd rather save it, but it's really big news.
It's really, really big news.
And our country has to shape up.
But what we're going to be talking about Thursday is, it doesn't get bigger.
Because without free and fair elections, you don't have a country.
We'll be discussing other things, too.
But it's going to be a very big announcement, yeah?
There you go.
What do you think the announcement is?
Well, it's that now the Chinese interfered in the election.
So we've moved on from Venezuelans, Russians.
Liberals, liars, leakers, whatever, to the Chinese, if the reporting thus far is right.
And Reuters has been all over this, and Reuters is very reputable.
And it hinges on the fact that China purchased publicly available voter data and did nothing with it.
So the crackpot theory du jour, which I did think was going to be about Venezuela,
because Trump likes to. talk about election rigging from Venezuela, and that Maduro knew about it,
and that he was going to trade the information to get out of prison.
So I actually thought we were going in that direction, but we were going to a new part of the world.
And the idea is that the intel community juiced the intel to make it look like Moscow interfered in the 2016 election,
which, lo and behold, it did.
I'm not saying it swayed the election, but it did.
There were people in jail as a result.
Take a look at the Mueller report.
And then they buried the intel indicating that Beijing interfered to help Biden in 2020,
which makes absolutely no sense because I don't think there's a person or another world leader
that she loves more than Donald Trump, right?
Who shows up and just kisses ass for three days straight and says things like,
I wish I could be in charge as long as you.
So I guess the good part is that. As of now, or the latest reporting that I saw, the networks are not going to take it live.
They're not going to interrupt their primetime programming.
I love it.
And I think part of that is probably that this is not an emergency because he announced it days ago.
It's like if you need an Oval Office address, usually you make your case as to why you need it.
And people feel, you know, some pressure, right, to make sure that you're there for it.
And I think that they're sensing as well that. They could end up in trouble again, right?
Where you have to do days and days of coverage explaining all of these voter fraud theories,
none of them that came to fruition, going through every election interference case
and how many times they lost in court and were humiliated.
And, you know, he's not going to get the Save America Act through J.D. Vance acknowledged as much.
But this is what authoritarians do when they want to sow confusion and distrust of the system.
And you're listening to him and he's sitting in the Oval Office and you think,
if the country's got to shape up, how did you get control of the presidency, the Senate and the House?
Like, you're winning.
So, like, it's so annoying.
But we're going to have to watch it or I'm going to have to watch it.
So that's mostly who I feel sorry for.
You're like, I will be out.
I will be out and about.
Yeah.
Yeah, 100%.
It's just ironic that we've spent five years.
Litigating what is the most scrutinized election in American history.
About 160 million Americans voted in 2020.
And there were dozens of court challenges, statewide recounts, audits and investigations,
including many run by Republicans or presided over by Republican or Trump appointed judges.
And none produced evidence of fraud on a scale that could have changed an outcome.
It reminds me of Doge, and that is the government.
It came out with a clean bill of health from the, quote, unquote, Doge audits.
It found there was a remarkably low amount of waste, fraud and abuse, which is their favorite tagline.
And our election system is purposely run somewhat inefficiently or distinct.
It's very heterogeneous, the process and mechanism, because what they want is no ability to weaponize or infiltrate the entire election.
In other words, there's safety to having 50 diverse systems run by different statewide officials in different formats.
Right.
You can't have a democracy if one of the two parties has the same election or post-election speech.
And it's one of two things.
It's either we won or it was rigged.
And to your point, it's just insane.
They control three houses of government.
Now, is there election interference from abroad?
Yes.
My understanding is it's mostly benefited Trump.
But that's not to say we shouldn't be serious about it.
But when you have Governor DeSantis falling into this bullshit and spending $3 million on an election fraud,
a task force, you know, that's money that could go elsewhere.
And I do think it's a political loser.
Only 2% of the American public, according to Gallup, say that election interference is their top priority.
You know, for most people, it's around affordability, gas prices and the like.
But this is—I'm almost sort of at a point where, you know, we attack our institutions so much.
I do think it's unhealthy.
But in terms of short-term electoral dynamics, I think him continuing to focus on it,
I'm probably a loser for him.
Well, I think it's—I mean, there are a couple of things more that I wanted to say about it.
Like, you know, we're watching all of these confirmation hearings this week.
And Democrats continually ask Republican nominees who won the 2020 election.
And yesterday I was having a conversation.
I was on Special Report.
And we were talking about Jay Clayton, who in another time would be a nominee that everyone—maybe not everyone,
but could get like 70%.
70-plus votes, right, to be confirmed as the DNI to replace Tulsi Gabbard.
But he's up there saying he didn't know that Tulsi was in Fulton County when it was on the front page of every major broadsheet.
And he won't answer the question.
He says that Joe Biden was certified the winner, but won't say that he actually won the election.
And one of my colleagues said, why does this stuff matter?
Why are you guys so obsessed with it?
We're not the ones that are obsessed with it.
The president is giving a primetime address.
On an issue that was settled January 6, 2021.
That's what's going on here.
A guy who has, you know, who staged an incredible comeback.
He did not have the landslide victory that he would tell you that he did.
But he pulled off something really amazing in 2024 and came back and won a free and fair election.
And his obsession with this will be, at least to some degree, the downfall of his party.
Because he has made them all into stooges.
He has made them all look like clowns. And I love when John Ossoff said that to Jay Clayton's face, where he said, like, how does it feel to be humiliated like this? It's the ritual humiliation of being in bed with Trump.
Then the second thing I wanted to raise before we moved on to the next subject is I doubt in this address that he's going to talk about reinstating all the funding to fight foreign influence that he has cut.
Right. Like the CISA program that Chris Krebs ran, the ODNI, the National Intelligence Group's Foreign Malign Influence Center, the FBI's Foreign Influence Task Force.
They all got gutted because, A, I guess in reality, Trump knows.
He knows that there wasn't election fraud. And B, because he just doesn't care anyway. He's not actually concerned.
He's just like a toddler that's still mad that you took away his toys a couple of years ago. So I just wanted to add that in.
So moving on.
OK.
Over 100 House Democrats have voted to end aid to Israel.
The proposed amendment to a State Department funding bill that would cut billions in funding was thwarted by Republicans in a 314 to 104 vote.
Jess?
This still sends a pretty serious message and is a big shift from U.S. lawmakers.
Even Nancy Pelosi backed the measure to stop aid.
What do you think is behind this shift?
Bibi Netanyahu?
There's that.
There's that. Yeah, I think it's a pretty big factor.
And I think, you know, this being one of the last votes that Nancy Pelosi takes before she retires, I think is quite meaningful.
You know, big longtime friend of Israel that there were members of the Congress.
That there were moderate Democrats in swing districts who took this very difficult vote.
I think all means a lot.
And I'm not sure.
Did you catch Rahm Emanuel's speech last week in Tel Aviv?
Yeah.
I think that what Rahm did, and I really want to hear what you thought of it.
But he, I think, gave these 103 Democrats.
I shouldn't say 103 because some of them were just going to do this anyway.
But gave a good chunk of this cohort.
And the Senate.
The senators who voted against sending offensive weapons aid like Slotkin and Ossoff and Warnock the cover that they needed when he's now talking about, you know, Bibi essentially being rogue, that we need a 23 state solution, that we should stop talking about this as a two state solution, that there has to be a regional answer to this, which, you know, it's a small facet.
But the Abraham Accords was a piece of that.
Right.
At least from the economic angle.
And I think you're going to see a lot more of this.
And Bibi read the tea leaves, too.
You know, he said, we don't need the aid.
So it's like saying, I didn't want to go to your party right before you didn't get your invitation in the mail.
The question I have kind of looming is what happens with defensive aid?
Right.
For the Iron Dome.
And I mean, we give defensive aid packages to countries all over the world.
Right.
That's one of the ways that we are the global policeman or policewoman.
So not sure what the future of that is.
But this is a huge shift.
And I was kind of surprised also that it was only Thomas Massey on the Republican side, that there weren't a couple others with what a hot topic Israel has been.
And also, you know, this America first foreign policy.
So what did you think about Rahm's speech?
Well, Rahm is sort of Andrew Yang with more experience right now.
And that is you have to admire that he's out early.
He's not playing this reluctant bribe bullshit, which I hate.
Where, you know, I'm having coffee with a senator tomorrow here, not because he finds me fascinating, but because he's running for president and he wants he wants Jessica Tarlow and Scott Galloway to talk.
Well, he's having coffee with you, not with Jessica Tarlow.
So I think he wants money, too.
He knows I don't have it.
There you go.
So but Rahm is at least out of the closet and says, I'm running for president.
Also, to Rahm's credit, he's taking he's wading in dangerous waters.
He's talking about real issues.
And that is important instead of I would describe every one of the Democrats is running for president is a reluctant bride cosplaying Obama at gatherings, you know, talking about needing to come together and in being very indignant about Trump.
But very few of them want to talk about actual ideas because it it means prioritizing and every idea has winners and losers.
And right now they're like, oh, no, don't talk about Social Security.
You know, they just they want to speak in bumper sticker and big like we need to come together.
And Americans are not as divided as we're being just OK.
Enough already.
What the fuck are you going to do about our deficit specifically?
And Rahm Rahm has probably more.
I mean, Rahm arguably is one of the most qualified people to run for president since Secretary Clinton in terms of his background.
Also, just with respect to Israel, the real politic of it is that the politics are shifting because demographics have shifted.
Israel's received, I think, about 170.
Four billion dollars since 1948.
And that's more than any country in history.
But the reality is it's no longer a bipartisan or no longer enjoys bipartisan support in the electorate, especially among younger voters because of what they perceive as over settlements and overly aggressive U.S.
Israeli military stance.
An individual in Netanyahu is constantly on a war footing trying to save his own political ass.
So Washington is is to be blunt, catching up to a generational change that's been underwhelming.
And it's been underwhelming the way for years.
Also, it's to Israel's benefit.
It's just time.
Israel, just as recently as in the 80s, was a 30 billion dollar economy.
Now it's 600 billion.
They can afford their own shit.
And sending three billion dollars to Israel, quite frankly, it isn't worth.
It isn't worth the optics because, A, they can afford it themselves.
And also, it's a bit misleading because that three billion dollars we send to them, they then turn around and spend on Northrop Grumman.
Or Boeing.
So it's really more of a three billion dollar package to the military industrial complex in the U.S.
Because it's not like they take that money and give it to aid for seniors in Tel Aviv.
It's spent on U.S. military equipment.
And Israel can afford its own military equipment right now.
They're they're essentially, I would argue now, the superpower in the Middle East.
They it's not worth the juice isn't worth the squeeze.
It's not worth the optics and the tumult.
And what?
A lot of people.
What I actually would argue is legitimate concern that we're funding a government that sometimes doesn't represent our values for three billion dollars.
So I think it's good for Israel.
And I think it makes sense, given where the electorate is, to stop this funding.
It's just not a big loss.
Israel was very dependent upon us in the last century.
Quite frankly, I think in terms of Middle East policy, we're probably in Middle East power.
We're probably more dependent on Israel now than they are on us.
So I.
Some.
I think it's time.
It feels it feels like it is.
It's the right move for both parties.
Yeah, I agree.
I think the generational point is an important one.
And this is a way for some older lawmakers to signal that they are sentient.
Right.
Like that they know what's going on here and that they're listening to their constituents.
I'm it was, you know, BV was supposed to come next week for Lindsay.
Graham's funeral.
That's being pushed back.
He was also going to meet with President Trump.
There are questions now around Marco Rubio has been attacking the ICC.
Mom, Donnie has said that if BV came here, he would, you know, comply with the ICC ruling that BV is a war criminal.
Like there are going to be lots of questions around BV for as long as we have him, I guess, is what I'm trying to say.
And I'm hopeful that the elections push him out finally.
And, you know, he can face justice or whatever is coming to him.
But mostly Israel can have some leadership and get, you know, Ben-Gavir out of our faces, stop the settlements, be productive, you know, cooperative members of the Middle East.
And their reputation can go back up in the eyes of Americans, not so we can give them the three billion dollars.
And Miriam Adelson can cut that check anyway.
Right.
I mean, maybe she is.
She said, oh, I saw the vote.
Like, no worries.
I got you.
But this is an unsustainable path for U.S.-Israeli relations.
And it's a very tough spot for liberal Zionists in particular, which we've been talking about, you know, since October 7th, basically.
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attorney general todd blanche continues today and it will feature outside witnesses including
danielle bensky an epstein survivor yesterday representative thomas massey and a handful of
other democrats have now introduced the epstein files transponder
transparency act two to hold the doj accountable for its mishandling of the case and here was vice
president vance admitting the quiet part out loud on joe rogan's show but if people want to say we
mishandled the epstein release guilty we did mishandle especially the communications of it what
do you think should have been done i think that we should have just dropped everything at the very
beginning and like obviously it takes a little time to review the stuff to find the stuff to
redact things where you have victims and so forth but we should have just done it as quickly as
possible but some of the stuff that was redacted
some of the names that redacted weren't victims so yeah i i've looked into this and it is sometimes
hard to draw a distinction between victim and co-conspirator what doj tried to do was kind of
make that judgment as best they could and release as much as possible so yes there some of these
women were groomed right by galeen maxwell this happens in criminal rings like that but it was
very interesting contrast between what todd blanch was saying on the hill and what jd vance was saying
in the studio in austin because todd blanch was basically saying we did this right three million
is the right number we have done everything we have complied with the law completely we have
been respectful of the victims and jd vance is echoing what he said in the situation room in the
incredible reporting and regime change from maggie haberman and jonathan swan when they had their you
know epstein release guilty and so on and so forth and so forth and so forth and so forth and so
forth and so forth and so forth and so forth and so forth and so forth and so forth and so forth and
he was like this is a huge problem for the administration and get it all out there
right like as much as you can safely because this is a stench that is going to haunt the
administration in perpetuity um and that is all back in focus danny bensky the survivor who's
testifying today you know harrowing stuff talking about how you know her name was one of the ones
that should have been redacted and wasn't and the humiliation of the administration and the
of everybody colleagues family kids knowing what happened to you and then blanche even said that
they were taken down and fixed within 24 hours which isn't true and she said there's still
survivors information out there today that the doj was supposed to have kept secret um and she
thinks she was talking about as well how dismissive todd blanche is personally of the victims and his
refusal uh to meet with them so i i think that this is a huge problem for the administration and
this is a right now a slow moving train wreck and has the potential to become fast moving the
more attention is paid to it which i assume is the point of bringing the epstein transparency act
part two by uh massey i teach a session in my course on crisis management and it just sort of
the most basic learning is it's not the crisis or the crime it's the cover-up that gets you into
trouble martha stewart didn't go to jail for insider trading she went to jail for lying to
federal investigators
every time the government or the administration dribbles out another explanation it it cements the
suspicion that powerful people play by different rules and institutions don't collapse because
they're imperfect they collapse when people conclude that the rules only apply to everyone
else and asaf has done a great job with semantics on this and that is rather than going after the
billionaire class that kind of warren uh senator warren or um
bernie americans don't like to demonize success we that's not a winning strategy for for the
democrats what he started saying is the epstein class and that is really smart that creates a
real distinction that rich people you know all rich people are not bad people but there is a
group of people in america of which many seem to have associated with the president that believe
they get to play by a different set of rules because of their because of their power it's as
if they want to play by a different set of rules because of their because of their power
want to look as guilty as possible and i still think one of the most powerful images
of the of this administration will be when former attorney general bondy sat there as all these
women stood up behind her who had not even been contact by the doj and that is it's not the
department of justice it's the department of delay and obfuscation by the personal attorney of the
president hoping that this will just go away if they keep slow balling the thing so this is i mean
it's just really basic in crisis management acknowledge the issue top guy or gal takes
responsibility and you overcorrect and they have done none of that here and it's it does keep you
know i as it should it's the key you know it's the gift that keeps on giving to the administration
because this does seem to be that red line that a lot of republicans say is is unacceptable
um and i you know i hope i hope it continues to be in the news and that i hope
and i hope there's some sense of justice you know elizabeth holmes is in prison jelaine maxwell is in
prison what's interesting is that we always tend to find someone with ovaries to put in prison and
i'll also add that it seems like the president is pretty quick to fire women in his administration
and not men uh anyways i i not that not that misogyny is going to come as a surprise
to uh anyone observing this this administration but again it's just they they've handled
it so poorly just from a strategic viewpoint because every time they do something it's like
they might as well just say i'm trying to cover up something because i'm guilty any additional
thoughts on this um no not really i mean i think you about covered it and it did make me think
about the firing point that you made did you see pete hagg seth's testosterone video yesterday
today i'm authorizing a new screening program for testosterone deficiency for our service members
you have the right testosterone levels to operate at your absolute best are you kidding every i've
been asked to go on every network tonight to talk about it somehow i've turned into the testosterone
guy because you talk about the t levels which i think is responsible and transparent of you um but
he wants gender affirming care for our soldiers for our fighters which is my takeaway from it
but if you want a more lethal fighting force which i think is a good thing but
again we have a secretary of defense who opts for optics and some performative masculinity as
opposed to maintaining the u.s military is the strongest and most lethal fighting force in
history the issues around the military right now to create the lethality that he wants are one
recognizing the asymmetry of warfare and moving from expensive platforms where we're scared to
lose a b2 so we don't take risks with them to drones ai driven technology and quite frankly
a guy or a gal that's not going to be able to take risks with them
that may not have a lot of testosterone but graduated from carnegie mellon and know how to
put together a drone with a hellfire missile and use ai to take out the enemy that is the future
of warfare it is not rambo we have special forces men in their 20s and 30s who are not lacking for
testosterone that is not the problem the other bigger problem is that 70 of young men who go into
a recruitment office traditionally we think of joining the army as your last resort your last
resort now who show up into a recruiter's office do not qualify to join the army as an enlisted
person because they're either obese or can't pass mental health tests if the secretary was really
serious about creating a more lethal fighting force he would think about the human capital he
needs to draw and he would be addressing the loneliness crisis and creating a more attractive
training and educational system that continued to draw best and brightest into the armed services
at at every level and i think that's what's going to happen and i think that's what's going to happen
at an officer level if you go to annapolis or west point or the air force academy
you see the finest young men and women that our nation has to offer the gap in our fighting force
is morale and our inability to attract the best and brightest out of you know at a young age out
of high school and instead he's talking about t levels and as someone who is on testosterone therapy
and i've been on it for five years i went on it for under the supervision of a doctor because i
It's good for your brain and your heart health.
make you stronger in the gym, and quite frankly, just make you feel a little bit younger.
And I think hormone replacement therapy has been a wonderful innovation for men and mostly women
of my age. But it has to be done under a doctor's supervision, and it has nothing to do—testosterone
doesn't—there's even issues—testosterone doesn't even necessarily make you more aggressive. It
makes you seek status more. And a young person in the military, a combat soldier, has more than
enough testosterone. This is just so—it's again, it feels like, are they just trying to make a
cartoon out of this shit? These are not the problems the military should be focused on right
now. Higher T-levels is not going to do anything in terms of the lethality of our workforce. If
he wants to incorporate a series of options around additional health care coverage that makes a
healthier fighting force, fine. But the way warfare is conducted now, it's more behind a
computer than behind a computer. It's more behind a computer than behind a computer.
It's more behind an AR-15. Those are the skills we need. We need really talented young people. And
again, the problem with our young men in our armed forces and everywhere is not a lack of
testosterone. It's a lack of connection. Anyways, another TED Talk.
Oh, I feel a little bit of shame for just making a gender-affirming care joke.
But I did notice that he makes this announcement the day that we're ramping up our attacks in Iran.
And it's like, could you be a serious Secretary of Defense?
For 20 minutes, right? And like, talk about what we're doing abroad. And also,
you know, no conversation about the women that serve in our armed forces and how kick-ass they
are in doing a little, you know, three-minute ode to penis, basically, which is what I thought of
it. I also thought it was AI. I thought there was no way that that video could have been around.
Yeah, I was like, oh my God. I showed it to Jesse and I was like, I thought this was fake at first.
And he was like,
no, but it's pretty crazy.
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Why wait? I have some views on this, but Jess, I'll let you go first. What are your thoughts on the
governor's ban of data centers? Well, I want your views on this.
Sure. Okay, you go first, and then I'll see if mine are dumb.
This is populist bullshit. Data centers have become an empty vessel to pour anger around
income inequality, and I understand that. People are correctly concerned that AI is benefiting
a small number of people while raising their electricity costs.
But the reality is most data centers that are approved use less water than 3% of the
golf courses are going to use 20 times more water than the envisioned data centers that
are going to be constructed. They offer vocational jobs. The civic officials approving these things
aren't stupid. A data center doesn't call the police department or the fire department or need
ICE, and they pay property taxes. There's concerns around spiking electricity prices, which I think
are real concerns. And I think it's a real concern. And I think it's
a need to be addressed, perhaps taking some of that revenue and offsetting electricity costs if
it strains the grid. The notion around noise pollution and environmental concerns, I think,
are vastly overblown. This is a populist movement pushing back on correct concerns around income
inequality and the worst brand managed in history or the recent history, and that is data centers,
which have decided to make Kevin O'Leary their spokesperson, which is like making a hijacker
for United Airlines. So, look, we are in an arms race with China. 130 billion of data center
investments has already been delayed or blocked this year. Data centers do consume power. So did
factories, ports, and airports. Every generation has infrastructure it hates until it realizes that
prosperity depends on it. If I were a local official or advising the governor, I would say,
OK, offer to fast track the approval of these things in exchange for them paying upfront a decade
of property fees and any additional spikes in electricity that can be directly related costs to
these data centers that is then rebated to households. Because I believe that what you're
about to see is the supply crisis be flipped to a demand crisis. Now, what do I mean by that?
If you look at AI, everyone's been talking about the fact that there's too much demand for too
little infrastructure. But if you look what's happened in just the last 60 days, the
several of the demand generators, whether it's Meta or XAI, that supposedly we're going to have
these incredible LLMs that would demand a ton of back-end inference and compute, have realized
they're not creating the demand they'd anticipated, and they are now flipping to supply and renting
out their supply to the only two sources of demand, and that's Anthropic and OpenAI.
So I think we're quickly moving from a supply crisis to a demand crisis,
and I think it's an opportunity for local civic officials to say to these CEOs,
who have access to cheap capital, pay up front your property taxes or guarantee them for 10 years.
Make sure that you offset any electricity bills, and we'll fast-track this thing,
because here's the thing. This might be an opportunity for local municipalities
to get some much-needed tax revenue on planned projects that may never come to fruition, because
generally what I have found in business is also true in life, and that is the shit you're most
worried about isn't what gets you. And the fact that we are obsessing over
the data center and supply chain shortage of inference and compute to meet the demand of AI
is the same way we obsessed over Y2K or Greece collapsing its bond market. The shit you worry
about, you begin to prepare for incrementally, and there's a lot of investment around
innovating around that fear, and you solve it. I think new chips, new technologies,
new compute is going to require less energy. In sum, this is populist bullshit.
Get that money, approve them, make sure it doesn't spike electricity demand,
but take advantage of the other side of this trade and get access to some of that cheap capital.
It is a populist movement right now whose concerns are totally overblown. Your thoughts?
Yeah, so your populist bullshit was my virtue signaling and how I was thinking about it.
Kathy Hochul, I think, has had an incredible turnaround from someone who folks thought
was reasonably vulnerable to a democratic challenge, didn't beat Lee Zeldin.
She's top-playing Mom Donnie. She's riding on his coattails, in my view.
And she was very smart to early endorse him, right? Like, she has played all of this
pretty perfectly, said, like, I'll give you the things—
3K childcare, big win.
Universal childcare, 3K. No, you can't raise taxes on individuals. Pied-a-terre tax,
no problem. Like, she's—she's got him leashed up, right? Save for what's got—went on with
stacking the rent board. And the only person who was against the rent freeze actually quit.
So this feels like a little bit too much of a Mom Donnie guiding versus a Kathy Hochul guiding,
which I think is the right way to run the state. And I was looking at Abigail Spanberger,
the governor of Virginia. So Virginia has the most data centers of any state in the country.
And Spanberger, who was also under pressure from the left,
It's like, no way.
not halting. It'll hurt us economically and it poses a huge national security risk for us. And
obviously, the Virginian economy operates differently than the New York economy in terms
of the national security facilities and all the infrastructure that's built there. But I look at
the person who's running that state and say, she should probably be leading. It also took me back
a little bit to 2019 when AOC and the lefties chased Amazon out of Queens. Do you remember
this, that they were going to make this huge investment and there were concerns over the tax
subsidies? And I understand that, but we lost hundreds of thousands of good paying jobs because
Amazon didn't come here in 2019. And a ton of the economic growth that's going on in this country
is rooted in AI and these data centers. Now, I'm not yet at a place where I'm going to say that
the sound complaints and the water quality,
and all of that is completely overblown and everything is right. Like Aaron Brockovich
and disciples of is going to find a lot of stuff about these things. But cutting it off with a full
moratorium seems like a big overreaction and this virtue signal. And it's really interesting to look
at. I don't know if you saw this, but Dario Amodi, the CEO of Anthropic, just gave a million dollars
to Public First. It's the super PAC seeking to slow down AI development with new regulations.
It's his first significant,
political donation. I'm sure that is virtue signaling as well, to some degree, though he
has spoken a lot about the concerns that he has with what's going on with how rapid AI development.
And this frontier is going to be hugely important for the midterms and then again
for 2028. So those are my two cents.
Speaking of a lack of nuance, let's check in on the growing parasite outbreak around the country.
Officials have now confirmed at least 1,600 cases of cyclosporiasis, with over 5,000 being
investigated. It's reached at least 34 states. The CDC has determined a likely link between cases
in Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio, and West Virginia, but it's still investigating whether a particular
food item like lettuce or salad greens is the source of the surge in the cases.
Look, I'll go first here. I think this links back to the same thing, and that is,
folks, a lack of appreciation for the confidence in investment in government,
will give you literal diarrhea. And that is, as of mid-July, the CDC
is aware of more than 1,500 cases. And on July 1st, 2025, the CDC's Foodborne Surveillance Network,
which has an awesome name, FoodNet, dropped the number of pathogens that require states to track
from eight to two. Only salmonella and E. coli remain mandatory. Cyclospora, listeria,
campylobacter, shigella, vibrio, and yersinia all became optional.
Cyclospora,
had been tracked continuously since 1997, meaning 28 years of monitoring,
which ended the summer before the biggest outbreak on record. Folks,
connect the dots. And since early 2025, the administration has cut more than 3,000 positions
from the CDC, roughly a quarter of the workforce. And what do you know? We have measles outbreaks
and explosive diarrhea. The agency has had no permanent director for more than six months.
And the administration also, wait for it, dissolved the CDC's Foodborne Surveillance Network,
the CDC's Division of Parasitic Diseases and Malaria. And they blame, the reason they defend,
how they defend the cuts is accusing these places of bloat and bureaucracy and using their favorite
tagline, wasteful and duplicative spending. The pattern isn't limited to one parasite. A second
one, the flesh-eating new world screwworm, showed up in U.S. livestock in June for the first time
in nearly 60 years. This is a larvae that bury into the flesh of living animals. That sounds
pleasant.
Talk dirty.
There you go. The USDA is fighting it by releasing millions of sterile flies in Texas.
That's an interesting remedy. Mexico and Canada both restricted U.S. cattle imports over the
spread. It goes back. I don't think Republicans nor Democrats recognize that when you don't have
a diplomatic corps, a memo of understanding isn't worth the paper it's written on, as we're saying,
that when you get rid of talented experts that actually understand parasitic disease,
you're going to have outbreaks. We keep thinking, oh, we don't need these people or it's waste and
bloat. And we've substituted fealty for competence, thinking that that'll work out. So we're going to
have more of these things bubble up where we realize, oh, wait, you do need people to actually
land planes from a tower at the airport in the government. You do need people who track outbreaks.
You do need people that look at extreme weather
in areas where people are camping. You do need talented, thoughtful diplomats who understand
how to deal with diplomats on the other side and develop an agreement that actually has teeth and
is binding. We are learning the hard way that a lack of respect for expertise and commitment,
which pollutes in a good way our federal government, that it comes at a cost when you
neuter it and you show a lack of respect for it. And this is just one way of hundreds, if not
thousands of ways, I believe the American public is going to figure out over the next 24 months
that the best performing organization in history, despite its bloat, despite its inefficiency,
despite your bad experience of the DMV, the best performing organization in history
has been the U.S. government. And when you treat it with this lack of investment and respect,
you're going to pay a price. And who knows which orifice is going to pay that price? Your thoughts?
I'm largely not mature enough for this conversation because it is quite serious,
not just the treatment part of it, if you have long-term explosive diarrhea, but
what we can do to repair the government. I'll just say I was at Moynihan Station last night,
7.30 p.m., going to go down to D.C. Everybody's getting their dinners, right? That incredible
food court, chopped, not one person in line. I'm going to go down to D.C. And I was watching
everyone at the other counters. Like, I was at a Mexican counter getting tacos. Every single person.
Speaking of diarrhea?
No, but that's like controllable diarrhea, I guess. But everyone was saying,
no lettuce on my taco, no lettuce on my taco. And the woman behind the counter eventually was like,
I'm not giving anyone lettuce. I'm not touching the lettuce. I'm not giving it to you. I mean,
the line at the ramen place stretched on for like 30 people. It was 95 degrees. And people are like,
I'm going to eat ramen.
Rather than have a salad at this point.
There you go. So let's end on a positive note. Let's talk a little bit about the World Cup.
Well, it's not that light for you. Are you bummed? Aren't you sad about England?
Oh, I've suppressed it.
Oh, sorry.
Yeah, that was hugely, that was hugely disappointing. I'm going to the final on
Sunday. I've been to the last four World Cups. I think I don't care. Well, I don't care. I'm
not that into sports. I played sports in college, but I decided to reallocate all the time. I was
going to the final on Sunday. I'm not
spending on watching sports and to fitness. And I think it's been the right choice.
But the World Cup, every four years, I get madly into the World Cup. And I think this World Cup,
I've been to, this is my fourth, has been the best. And I was cynical of it because I think
FIFA is so incredibly fucking corrupt and Trump getting involved in that ridiculous peace prize
and all that bullshit nonsense. And this World Cup hasn't been without flaws. I do think the
Egyptian team was robbed and Trump getting involved in that.
And the U.S. team absolutely vexed them. But on the whole, this has been, this is done. The World
Cup has done what the U.N. was supposed to do. And that is make us feel better about each other,
bring us together. The way I would describe the World Cup is a group of cousins who just adore
each other and have a great time together, get together for a sleepover, despite the fact that
their friends aren't or their parents aren't getting along. And seeing all these Germans
in Kansas talking about how amazing this thing called Waffle House is and seeing how one of them
these teams are and seeing on a baggage claim carousel the Norwegian fans rowing, to see
everyone singing Sweet Caroline, including the Norwegian fans in the Miami game that I was at,
and then to see the British fans or the Team England fans joining in on the rowing,
did positive demonstration of masculinity, strength, service, knowing how to lose affection,
uh, uh, you know, acknowledging the role of your family and your fame,
your friends. I just think it's been an outstanding World Cup. And despite Team England losing,
which was devastating, and not that anyone cares, but, um, I'm so appreciative of Team England's,
um, infrastructure and players because following them through the tournament, including going to
a couple of games with my boys, it's just been such a, just such a joyous experience for us.
So anyways, thank you, Team England. And,
uh, go Spain on Sunday, but it's been a fantastic World Cup. And I think if there's a message from
it, it's stating the obvious that Americans are wonderful people. And so are, uh, the citizens
of these other nations and that we are less divided than we think. It's essentially a group
of old fucking men who won't leave, who are dividing us, that there's much more that we share
than differentiates us or divides us. And it took, it took a soccer tournament to do that.
It took a soccer tournament to kind of let that bubble up. But I think this has been an enormous
win, not only for the U.S.
and the teams but for nations and just one final stat that i love every team in the world cup except
the uss national health care any closing thoughts on this jess well i've really enjoyed it um you
know dug into the personal stories i don't like the sport as much as i love learning about people's
relationships and the backstories and who trained who and like did you see um who how do you pronounce
the hot shot the young spanish guy limani yamal yeah did you see that when he was five months old
he took a photo with messi when messi played for barcelona like that's that's the stuff that you
love about sports and the 39 year old versus the 19 year old and maybe the passing of the torch and
we desperately needed some good pr and we got it between the knicks and the world cup um i've just
loved this summer of
sports
and fandom um and well this is the thing about sport is i think it's probably the last meritocracy
in that is we ignore biology in terms of decision making and pay the price for
our our octogenarian politicians but once you hit your 30s in sport the biology reminds you
that it's time for turnover and it's time to make room for youth and uh there was also a great
picture of beckham with like a 14 year old harry kane
yeah
but it's a lesson it's a lesson for our leadership that you need to make room for a
new generation of leaders all right jess let's leave it there cool i'll see you next week have
a great time with the game thanks
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President Trump is expected to make a major announcement about foreign election interference, particularly implicating China, though experts question the credibility and political motives behind such claims.
A shift in U.S. lawmakers’ attitudes toward Israel aid reflects generational and political shifts, with some Democrats ending funding due to concerns over optics and cost.
The Epstein case investigation reveals poor DOJ handling, with testimonies exposing cover-ups and dismissive attitudes toward victims, raising broader concerns about government transparency and accountability.
The U.S. military’s focus on testosterone levels is criticized as a distraction from real issues like morale, recruitment, and technological adaptation in modern warfare.
Data center bans are framed as populist overreactions; experts argue they reflect a failure to recognize infrastructure’s economic and national security value, and suggest proactive, revenue-generating solutions instead.
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