Trump’s Interview Sends MAGA Into a Full-Blown Meltdown | MAGA Mondays

That's smiling guy over there. That's Wilson or folks, yes, I like to agree. The Monday crew with a smile. Hey, guys, it's mag a Monday. Man, I didn't think I was going to make it to this, honestly. This weekend was rough. So many kids activities. Would you, I love just to be clear. I was like, I love, I love my kids. My kids birthday party. He got a soccer goal. It was awesome. So everything was great this weekend, but I'm exhausted. How are you? You good? Yeah, no, I'm ready to rock. I mean, it was a busy one for for right wing influencers. Some interesting articles will get into a lot of drama. You know, and so there was a lot of me, you know, I have this little bookmarking app on my phone. So when I'm scrolling Twitter next to my kids, and I'm like, I can't watch this broken video right now. I say that for later. You know, what is that? What is the bookmarking app use? Because I think we should go ahead. Not time, you know, you know, no free promo here, but it is a, it is called a rain drop. Okay. We got to get on rain drop. Because if anyone's bookmarking more than you on the end, I don't know. No, I really like just think I had like 200 over the past week that were just various, like niche dramas I needed to follow up on. Okay, rain drop. If you're, if you have a representative watching this program, you need to sponsor us because you have your number one client right here. This man is God. He can sell so much products for you. If everyone knew another dude that will summer uses raindrop to bookmark his right wing internet nonsense. They buy, well, I'll give you you guys a hint of an upcoming story. I made a new hashtag in raindrop last week called Gooning. So stay tuned. Oh, no. Okay. Oh, no. Not actually looking forward to that one. All right, we're going to start with some dark news. I guess a appropriate segue from Gooning, I suppose. Russell brand. Right before we came on air, Russell brand was sentenced to 10 years in prison. BBC reports that brand was sentenced on one count of rape, which you will serve consecutive with the following three sentences. Nine months for count three, sexual assaulting a woman who's breast he grabbed at a bar in London in 2004. Eight months for count five, sexual assaulting a woman at the choice FM studios in London when he grabbed her face and kiss chair before touching her breasts and bottom and eight months from count seven, sexual assault while working on a channel for project in 2009 when he laid his head into the groin area of a woman working with him without her consent. So Russell brand sentenced to 10 years in prison and look, he is a mage maha figure. He was walking. I remember being at the convention in 2024 in Milwaukee and literally walking right behind Russell brand as he walked through the convention halls and people were going crazy for him. He was not a insignificant maha maha figure. Here he is pictured with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. And Dr. shirtless doctor eyes holding a lizard. This is the weird folks who are running our health policy. And yeah, he is sentenced to 10 plus years in prison as we were having fun. You know, Russell brand is an interesting figure because like Andrew and Tristan Tate, these guys became prominent American mage figures after their allegations came out. And so I mean, that is like what's so crazy about it. I mean, Russell brand I think maybe there was like some reporting on it and then he kind of made this pivot and then the criminal charges came later. But, you know, it's not as though people didn't know what this guy's deal was and they, I mean, you know, he was on stage with Dr. Oz just a month or two ago at the maha conference in DC. And so it's it's truly bizarre. I mean, I think all of this is downstream of Trump. This idea that, you know, allegations aren't real or really who cares or whatever. But this this way that the American right embraces guys who are already known as accused sex offenders. That's such a good point. Like they didn't have to saddle up with this dude. But the celebrity, I think there's something here was that, you know, they like the celebrity. They want to feel like celebrities like them and they're willing to embrace troubled celebrities for that purpose. Because there's nothing about Russell brand that I know of prior to a couple years ago that's scrimmed mag and maha. Like how did he even come into these circles? Well, you know, he had a religious conversion. So he claims and, you know, he's he's tight with with Candace Owens, you know, all these people. I mean, he got really into believe he's Catholic. I mean, you know, just a, I think on our last trio, Tim played the video where he's looking for the the pier is more the Bible verse on Pierce Morgan. Right here. Right. No, it's just just right around the corner. So all these just finding ones about like stoning people and stuff. He's like, can't read that one. Gotta keep going. So I mean, yes. No, no, dude. He was a big deal. He had a show on rumble. He had like kind of one of these sponsored rumble shows that was very popular. So, you know, it is just it's a remarkable fall from grace for for the way. Is it though? Is it though? Because he had already found let's play the amulet video that he cut on. Yes. Back, please. I'm just back from Narnia where I had a holiday, Mr. Tundis, Aslan, all those guys. And as you know, airports are places for why final sorts of evil energies. Things all the phones out there, all of the signals, corruptible and corrupting. Luckily, I wear this magical amulet from airs tech that keeps me safe from all of the various signals out there. And also means look at this. Look at how strongly I am. I think this is like more powerful as a matter of fact. Look at that. This stuff is absolutely packed with airs tech. I didn't even bring any socks or poop brush or dog meats or anything like that. Just completely full of airs tech. You should get one as well. Particularly fun to go to an airport anytime soon, because the bloody things are full of lethal signals. Airs tech, a glorious amulet to protect you from corrupting signals. Yeah, so that was $250 the amulet. I got thing. Yeah, the amulet he's wearing. Yeah, I mean, so that was like very much for sale. That wasn't like a bit he was doing after I found that video. You would spend that money on that. A gullible person. It's stronger. I love the idea. It's like, well, I'm going to the airport. Normally, the regular Wi-Fi my body can can fend off, but there's so many, you know, there's airport Wi-Fi. I'm sorry about Wi-Fi. All these different Wi-Fi. I got to wear my amulet after I posted that video. I think this was about three years ago, because I was just watching Rumble and that ad came up and then I kind of tracked it down. And after I posted that video, I got an email from Airs tech, the amulet manufacturer. And they were like, you were a little dismissive about the amulet. You know, it's it has other things going on. It's not really a magical amulet. Well, he presented. Yeah, well, talk to Russell. Talk to Russell. Just got back from Narnia, not wearing socks. What the hell was that? So this will be talking some shady products. This will be an interesting one. I mean, well, I'm sure there will be some kind of Russell brand innocence movement in the Maga movement. Yeah, who leads you to get him to the Greek, get him to prison, I say. Oh, well, bring in his B plus game today. I'm curious of where RFK comes down to this. That's his guy. You know, I mean, look, yeah, RFK and Dr. Oz. I mean, they were, you know, it's hard to be like, I don't know that guy would. Oh, no, I'm shirtless with it. And my pet lizard. All right, we've done enough, Russell. We have so much to get to. Let's go to, let's go to Trump 60 minutes interview. So we're going to play this segment because it's roiling the base. Trump appears to embrace an immigration deal possibility with Democrats. People should watch this. I'd like to ask the question. What about clean dogs? That's 2018. And with the commitment that we go into a comprehensive immigration reform procedure like we did back, or I remember when Kennedy was here and it was really a major, major effort. And it was a great disappointment that it went nowhere, nowhere. I have no problem. I think that's basically what Dick has said. We're going to come out with DACA. We're going to do DACA. And then we can start immediately on the phase two, which would be comprehensive. Yeah, I would like to go ahead. All right, let's stop it then. So first of all, in 2018, not yesterday, Dianne Feinstein, not alive, dead. Trump looks noticeably younger. And I remember watching this live and people were shocked. The Republicans were scrambling. I know that Ken McCarthy quickly interjected. He said, no, no, no, no, no, God, do border wall funding. The reason I'm playing that is that this is history repeating itself. So last night on 60 minutes, this is what Trump said. We can't play the video because 60 minutes gets a little sensitive with our copyright stuff. But, Ross Dothat, the 60 minutes correspondent, says, asks about his deportation policy. Trump says, I think it was too tough. It was too tough. I think it might be too tough. Yeah, a lot of people would say that it's great, but a lot of people think it's too tough. What would a deal look like with Democrats? Trump. I think the deal would be, we would work something out. I think it's something, I think that's something that's actually doable. Trump then goes on. He says, you're talking about landscapers and hotel workers. Yeah, when you go into a hotel, he say, let me see your pass. And you have a woman that's worked there, you know, as a maid, as a cleaner, as a waitress, a lot of things. Great job. And all of a sudden, they're being taken out of the country. It's tough. It's a tough thing. Also, 25 million people came in through Biden. That's a lot of people to take out. But a lot of Some people that I would say on the sort of pretty far right that I would like everybody taking out. They keep going on. Trump then goes and says, "Give the drug derals out, but let the people that are here, and in some cases here for 10 to 15 years, work a deal for them, okay?" So that's more or less, this is a long wind up for will. That's more or less a version of Amnesty, and that's basically what he's doing in 2018, which leads me to believe that it's a lot of horseshit. This guy wants to spin his election loss. He wants to see that he's moderated, that he's gotten some sort of lesson from the whooping that he took. He realizes that the mass deportations were disastrous and politically, and now he wants to moderate, but he's not going to moderate. Nor was he going to in 2018. We know he's not going to moderate, because literally like an hour or two after he did the interview with Ross, he announced that Steven Miller, the architect of the mass deportation policies was becoming chief stuff. Nonetheless, Will, MAGA Internet is losing its fricking mind over that quote. They're not happy about it. I mean, yeah, as you said, I mean, this is one of their great fears that Trump is going to feel hemmed in, my Democrats, that he wants to be the deal maker. Basically, I think that let's throw that graphic up. Yeah, let's let Will try to clear his throat, and you can see here, Tommy Lorraine, I'm kind of confused, because I voted for no endless wars and mass deportations, but feels like I'm getting endless wars in Amnesty, I hope I'm wrong. Nick Sortor noted a Pulitzer prize was our journalist for people wars this weekend. Wait, how did he not? I thought he was going to turn the Alaskan race for Dan Sullivan by talking about the gay windy staircase, but no, no, Amnesty, not, not ever. Every single one of them, Cernivich, Hexas did his duty. This was Trump's war of choice. Why then are Democrats trying to, now you are, okay, why then are gems trying to pitch Hexas not Trump? Now you have your answer. They need Trump for Amnesty. You go. Yes, Jack Pasobic says, well, he says, you know, no deal. This was tape before he named Stephen Miller as White House Chief of Staff, Megan Kelly says, and now Amnesty, seriously, then finally, the White House says wrong, the word Amnesty was never even said in this entire exchange. So you can see there's a lot of drama there. So I think end-wokeness is maybe a secretly run by Jack Pasobic, so that's one possibility. I think that's one theory out there. So yeah, I mean, this is, you know, this is kind of called back to George W. Bush when there was all this fears among the Republican base that he was going to try to do Amnesty, and they eventually quashed that. So there's a lot of, you know, fear on the right that, as I said, that Trump's going to try to cement his legacy by becoming more moderate and making deals. But he can't because of this, they lose their mind. Yeah. One thing to spin, like his one thing to spin, I mean to choose, I don't know, maybe you can contextualize this. The Epstein stuff was like, when he didn't release the files, that was like a former treachery for a lot of people. They were on war, like they kind of got over it, but a lot of people didn't. Like they're like, you said, no endless wars, going back on deportations, that would be like the trifecta here, right? Like that would be the third massive betrayal for these folks. Oh, completely. I mean, they would be, they would be furious. I mean, I'm sure it would destroy the Republican brand or whatever in the, you know, it would really demoralize Republicans for 20, 28. It would be a disaster. So yeah, I mean, I, I think it's, as you said, I think it's unlikely. I mean, obviously he's made this promise before. Yeah, no, he's not going to take that down, you know? Yeah, we could take it. He's not going to do it. Like, I just, there's just no way. He's made the promise before he's just trying to play the part. It is kind of funny that JD Vance and his big post election tweet, like, you know, before the four points, he had a preamble, he's like, the solution here is not, is not amnesty. It's not any form of anything. And Trump, like, comes out in 60 minutes, like, you know, we should, we should maybe do a legal path for some of these workers who are here. So maybe they're not on the same page. And this also gets into, I mean, we'll get into this a little later when we talk about the rights claims of voter fraud, but there's this kind of debate right now. They're grappling with why did we lose? And I think people outside that bubble can say you lost because of all these unpopular policies, whatever. But a lot of these people are arguing we just didn't go hard enough in particularly on immigration. And obviously that's what the Stephen Miller pick is about. So I think for, for these people, they're, they're, they're like, no, we can't talk about amnesty. Like, what the, what the voters want is much harder core ice stuff. Well you mentioned it and producer Matt's flagged it while we were on the air. And it gives me no pleasure to report this honestly. Trump is actually now finally getting onto the voter fraud thing, which he has resisted doing. Thank you producer Matt. Trump says does anybody really believe that this election was honest? How could the polls be so wrong? Bulls were right. Some early voting dumps were so large that it was impossible to win. No matter how many people went to vote, it's all about the machines, which are far more important than the voter. Well, yeah, here we are folks. I'm surprised it took it this long. We're almost a week after the election and Trump finally gets around to it. Yeah, compared to 2020 when he said that night that it was fraud. And I think that's partially why the voter's fraud theories have been a little slow to get off the ground. Right. Well, that and because it was so universal, right, like the wall up and we're so big. So I'm just looking through this again for the first time. So first of all, the polls were wrong and he's right about that. They dramatically underestimated the Democrats. And yet the polls still estimated Democratic victories across the board, right? So the polls were wrong, but even if the polls had been right, there would have been a huge Democratic win. So by that he means the early vote was overwhelmingly Democratic and that's true. But he's also simultaneously in the past complaint about the late votes coming in and turning Republican leads into Democratic wins like in Michigan. So it doesn't matter, obviously, no matter how many people win to vote. It's all about the machines, which are far more important than the voter. So I guess by that he's saying, it's rigged machines, that's music to Mike Lindell's ears. And tonight, 7 p.m. Eastern, Mike Lindell will be addressing the nation about how the election was stolen. >> Jesus Christ, man, I can't believe we're doing this shit again. You know, it's funny because some Republicans were trying to take victory laps for how calm they were about accepting these results. If we put up the Sean Spicer tweet, please, do we have it? Tuesday was not a good night for Republicans. It's been four days and no protest riots and vandalism and Stephen Richter says, congrats are not doing J6 this time, really impressive. Again, it's like the lowest bar. You cleared it, Sean, there's been no protests, congrats. You accepted the results, except now, apparently Trump's not accepting this. So Will, you've been following this stuff. >> Well, but also as I pointed out to you when we talked about this, it's not January yet. I mean, these people haven't been sworn in, right? So like the arc has not finished, you know, you can't say we didn't do January 6 until they're sworn in. >> Yeah, that's a good point. All right, give me those scuttle, like how serious are people on the right taking issues of voter fraud? >> Yeah. >> Not issues. No, let you be click. There's no voter fraud. How much are they pushing this bullshit? >> Yeah. So this is really getting go, I don't know, maybe it's, there's kind of a divide. As we said, Trump was initially slow to say there was voter fraud and I think that meant that for a few days, people were a little lost. But it's starting to get going basically around the idea that it's just impossible. Democrats couldn't win like that. And so as a result, you have a lot of these kind of like, chat GPT-generated arguments on Twitter that are getting a lot of traction, like where people, well, they're just like, you know, if you look at these three states, Democrats won by 15 points. The fact that it would happen, all like that around that same number, is impossible. Clearly, there was an algorithm. I'm serious. That's what it's like. And so they're just like, clearly there was an algorithm. >> You can't have multiple states with the same margin of victory. >> And also, they're, they're saying there's like an algorithm node, like maybe deviate a little bit. >> Well, the margin of error that they're doing, it's not just 15 points, they're saying it's like. Maybe margin of victory, not margin of error. >> Well, they're saying that they're like, they're not even just saying it's 15 points on the dot. They're saying it's like between 12 and 17 points or whatever, so there's a range. And it's like, well, yeah, I guess. I mean, that doesn't really, so I mean, this is very, you know, this is kind of very primitive voter fraud theories. And if they keep going, you know, we could probably get to the point where, as I've said before, it's like, the ballots had bamboo on them. They were made in China. These kind of more elaborate ones. >> Well, we got to wait for, we got to wait for Lindell tonight, right? I mean, that's, that's when the real thing should prove that. But I mean, this stuff, it's so obviously these posts are so obviously LLM generated. And they say things like the numbers pose the question. I mean, these obvious tales and people, and they get like 10,000 retweets and people like, this is, this is genius. So what about data? You had flag data Republican in this. >> Yeah. So there's just a set up for folks who don't remember data Republican prior to the election was like, I am looking at early voting data and I am breaking down the numbers. And my analysis is so bad for Republicans that I literally cannot share it. I can't share it publicly because it will depress them so much and it might affect the vote. That was data Republicans' argument. So she had already promised the idea that it was going to be harmonize for Republicans. That's right. So she had said that basically she was focused in the wind up to the election on this idea that there would be a color revolution that liberal civil society groups and the deep state would overthrow Trump because what she had was she had like some focus some some some some group conference calls you know where liberal groups were like well what if Trump does try to steal the election what's our legal response going to be and so she was saying they'll try to overthrow Trump based on this. So now that the elections over and they see she sees people starting to claim there was voter fraud from the right she says oh no this is what starts the color revolution going don't do it um and so she's saying like these Democrats follow this it doesn't make a lot of I mean essentially it boils down to the idea that's like data Republican figured out the Democrats had an a furious plan to take control of the government by winning elections I mean it but she kind of has like a sinister tint to it so she's saying don't say there was voter fraud because this begins the process of a antifa revolution and a lot of people are getting mad at her on the right about this enter mom of data Republican data Republican. She's such an interesting she always does in there. I love the mom mom of data Republican let's throw up that tweet. So this first tweet is also by data Republicans mom she says she's talking about her daughter she is the messenger not the creator it looks like fraud but now someone needs to step up and prove it. I told you she's not clairvoyant she's a data engineer she's about 20 patents and not one of them is for telling the future or revealing fraud now please be kind this is hard and then she says I can't help it it's very hard I'm just thinking about if my one of my kids was like like a self-styled voter fraud expert I can't help it it's very hard right now because I'm physically with her and the emotions are real and even though she's an adult in her 40s I'm still her mom now look. Oh data. You got a lot of moms doing just that's just real mom I I feel for you mom of data when your kids just dabling in voter fraud and you're like don't do that but your 40 you should be independent but oh and you just want to defend that you know I get it. It's like when my son's on the soccer field the ball just rolls right past every doesn't react because I'm like it's tough because just a kid um so so that is the basically so a lot of people are about to date Republican because she won't come out and say yes the election was stolen but again you know should this woman be a secret Pentagon employee should she be she's done the payroll she left no she quit should she be you know leading our doge efforts if her mom has to step in and defend her maybe not probably not all right we'll monitor this anything oh wait there was a clip you want to play yeah so so there's there's a there's a faction of right-wing commenters who I think are just like we aren't gonna do January 6th again we aren't gonna do the voter fraud stuff right because they see it I think understandably as a distraction and they see it as a um sort of a dead end in terms of reforming the party now they don't want they don't want to moderate to be clear um they want you know more of Steven Miller's stuff they're saying we lost because we aren't giving enough red meat to young white men for example yeah um and so I see that it's like Kerry Lake has been pushing all this stuff and some people like Jesus Kerry again like can we not do it this time and so I've seen a little bit of that yeah we don't want the Lindell cyber symposium again although now that now the Trump is getting on that on board with that it's probably going to happen um and so so you've had to encourage Lickter for example the commenter he's saying another secret Pentagon employee by the way free was like he was saying you know we've got to uh he's like we just have to like think about why we lost which which is what a normal party with like a reasonable epistemic process would do now let's watch Grant Stinchfield from Newsmax for the fraud I will I just don't see it there and believe you I could get plenty of clicks and likes if I said oh yeah Texas was the victim of massive voter fraud if it's there I don't know where to find it I really don't but I'm looking so he's saying look there's no voter fraud in Texas um the or that I can see and you you can tell it kind of reminds me of the smartmatic Fox news emails where they're just like the audience wants it's so bad we can't make the mad and he's like look I'm not saying there's voter fraud I just the idea of a Democrat winning in Texas being prima facet you know voter fraud I don't know I'm looking for it don't worry all right you know Sam if I could just make one more point about this because I've gotten a you know I cleared my throat I got a little fired up now the the thing about your threat then like we got to you guys telling early for a flam clearing before we do this let's feel like around 15 minute mark you got some flam in there I get fired up you know I you know so essentially what what the I can't stress enough how much the voter fraud claims that really flourish this weekend were and I could have had like dozens of videos of people saying the same thing all they are saying is it is voter fraud because Democrats won in red states it's impossible they say they they were saying like how does this make any sense someone was like you mean to tell me that Bastrop County or like whatever rural they those white hunters preferred telefreco Pakistan can't be like because they're saying the only explanation for this is that Trump is incredibly unpopular and is doing an awful job as president but that can't be that can't be fraud oh my god I'm excited for Lindell and I'm also deeply fearful for what he says tonight I mean are we going to get like the you know Italian satellites and Venezuelan computer hacks and I hope so that's one of my favorite that the CIA was in a fight a shootout with the QAnon team in Italy for for servers you know I will say there's been a big QAnon resurgence this weekend they are they're stepping up you know when when when we when our nation yeah what are they saying I mean is this part of the plan is this the process this is kind of another part of the um the election results are impossible there are a lot of people saying that this and we heard this in 2020 that this would Trump allowed the election to be stolen as a trap so the foolish Democrats they won too many seats they won too many governorships and like it really is like they're going to win in Mississippi what fools they've walked right into Trump's trap and so now we're going to trip well he's gonna prove the election was stolen and arrest them oh so he lets them win by such substantial margins that it's obviously fraud and then he gets to arrest them yes and then what well it happens after that and the corollary is just like a lot of people saying well well Democrats you won now it's your problem to fix and it's like well yeah I think people prefer to win elections you know it's loose so the conspiracist mind is just a really weird place I none of this I just feel like I would hope that if I ever went down this rabbit hole you wouldn't be able to pull me out but I and well Sam you did over the weekend right you thought the Michael and Del driving video was real oh yeah that was I wish we had that there there's if we can we download it just for the maybe for later yeah for the end I mean I just fall for this one I was dying laughing I couldn't believe it the we'll play as a tease at the very end uh great video Michael and Del apparently it's not real which is unfortunate but every now and then I do send well something like this is real all right we got to a quick break but when we come back we're gonna be talking about Laura Lumer who knew she was paying for her tweets never could have predicted that only shit we'll get into that after this quick commercial break this message is brought to you by quince so the best pieces in your closet are the ones that you can reach for again and again and again whether you're just getting dressed for work or heading out for the 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Hey quince appreciate you love you guys absolutely making me look good I think I did like you're just like I look good here I look good there. No I said I look good here I look casual there all right apparently we got some JD Vance speech this morning from small business group producer Matt says we should play this before going to him because it's such an epic flop let's talk about the midterms I just if we want a little good chuckle let's do that before I get into the meet of my remarks I wanted to talk of course about the devastating loss last week and just a little bit about the that, you know, of course, there are a lot of people, I think, unfairly criticizing the leader of the team, despite leading us to a great victory two years ago, a lot of people criticizing unfairly the leader of the team. There are a lot of staff infighting and questions about reshuffling. And of course, there's a conversation about whether the number two has what it takes to ultimately lead the team. I'm talking, of course, about the Ohio State Buck guys. And let me just assure you that I really believe and Luke Fahey are back up quarterback. And I think our team is going to make an amazing, amazing turnaround here. But, what a guy. Blobsitty. (laughs) That's one of those really. This is the die. Oh, there, this is my god. Wow, whoa. Took your wayster's vogue. Hey. Why'd you put the heat on? Hi. Put him up on Kill Tony. Put him in the chest. (laughs) The point of a joke like that is to not completely televised that you're being sarcastic throughout the joke, right? Instantaneously, you knew you weren't talking about the elections. I mean, it's just, someone's got to get a better run for the guy. Not that I'm like, you know, funny, but I'm funnier than that. Okay, thank you for liking that, Matt. That was awful. Let's go to Lumer, yes. So look, big Washington Post piece over the weekend saying she is paying, or she's being paid, I should say, to post thousands of dollars political tweets, non-disclosed. We knew a lot of this, right? Like, political had a piece about, I believe it was some Venezuelan interests that were paying her for posts. I suppose the stuff here is mostly, the new stuff is mostly around the amount she's being paid and that it's more on the domestic political side. As well, but what did you make of the piece? Well, what a beautiful picture. What a striking image. What did I mean? Yeah, Drew Harwell and Scott Nover, my old colleagues at the post. Basically, I think this kind of advances our understanding of Lumer, what she's being paid for her posts. I mean, long-time false flag readers will know that we were perhaps the first on this, I think, in the media, to say that, like, Lumer was clearly being paid for her posts. I mean, it was pretty obvious. Let's just be real. Like, it's, you know, she'd take up these weird causes out of nowhere and start posting. It got so bad that when she started posting about Zelenskin and the Ukrainians, he just assumed that she was on his payroll. And she's been denying that. So, hey, was that anything that's right? Well, so then, as you said, I think earlier this year, political had a thing saying that these suspicious posts, she had about Venezuelan oil export law. We're being paid by an American who had oil interest in Venezuela. They had messages where people were kind of discussing it. And then now, this story advances it by saying, well, we have these business bank transfers or whatever, $60,000 to Laura. And we have three unnamed sources saying that she was paid, that these were meant to pay her for posts. Also, Alex Bruceowitz, kind of a Trump world figure, the Nicki Minaj whisperer, he publicly accused Laura of being paid for posts, which is kind of funny, because he appears to have been paying her, because he said, he couldn't follow that. He said, I know you get paid for posts, because I've paid you. And so, like, he's on this weird campaign. If people remember the campaign to paint Harley Davidson as gay, he was like, he was an early one to be like, this is clearly like a paid op. So he's been on this campaign against these paid influencers. Can I lay out what my theory is here about what's going on? Kind of more broadly. - Yeah, absolutely, yeah. - Okay. I think that there is a faction of more Israel critical Republicans, and I think Alex Bruceowitz falls in this camp, that realize that they need to stop the Iran war, and they need to kind of back away from Benjamin Netanyahu electorally. And they see the pro-Israel camp, like Laura Lumer, as being very deep into this kind of peyola culture of tweets, not necessarily for Israel, but just sort of unrelatedly. And I think there's a lot of evidence to that. Like, when I think of the other people who are sort of obviously getting paid. I think people like, I think on Three Eagle Men, people like that are these kind of much more traditional like pro-Israel conservatives. So I think there's this effort to say, if we can hit these people as unreliable, that will make Trump trust them less. And it will also kind of like take them off the field in terms of like our fight over the future of MAGA and Israel. - I think you're right, 'cause I don't think Trump likes, I think one way to get Trump mad at you is to, you're making money and he's not. But also, maybe you would know this, like isn't everyone basically getting paid in that corner of the universe to post? It feels like it's just pervasive. - I think there's like huge swaths of people. Yeah, I mean, I think who's not getting paid, right? - Yeah, I mean, I think that's probably, that really is a better question. I mean, Alex Bruceowitz, by the way, is also in our like a really funny lawsuit where his business partner, like allegedly, just totally pillaged their company to like a comical degree. I think including having his girlfriend set up a Pilates studio or some kind of fitness studio. So that's the one I'm following. But yeah, I mean, it's the loomer situation is interesting. You know, she also supposedly actually got a request for comment for this article. She said she was stepping back from her rumble show tough week for rumble, Russell Brandt. - She has this, I'll read, it's a very long post in typical loomer fashion. I've been going non-stop support in president Trump, ever since he came down the golden escalator. As many of you know, I'm chronically tuned in online. I'm always working. I am a machine. Some days I work more than 18 hours. My work has been one of the most meaningful things I've ever done. The people I've met blah, blah, blah. There's more to life than work though. And I'm trying to learn that and practice it. It's been very hard for me to be honest. It's very, very hard. I've been running on empty for too long. Family in my personal life, my upcoming wedding, healthy work life balance, and just the act of having a life outside of my show, and my work have all been on hold. So I'm taking a hiatus for my show, loomer unleashed, which I last Zoom try a week. I will note that she like subsequently just spent a lot of time online fighting about Paola after she posted this. So maybe we need more little time in that work life balance. So I think this was broadly interpreted as like, loomer has been defeated or that she's fleeing the scene. I have a couple thoughts on this. The loomer show on rumble was never hugely influential. Famously she ate dog food on the air once. That was popular, everyone knew about that. But otherwise it was kind of a marginal operation. And so I could believe that, you know, I think if we take her at her word, I think it's like somewhat believable that she's gonna get married, that she's kind of looking at what she can pair down, and she's saying, well, this is kind of my least profitable or least successful enterprise. What were the viewers looking at? - No, you know what? I feel like there was, we found out how much money she was making from the show, and it probably wasn't bad, but anyways, I should have had that ready. The, sorry. But basically like, 'cause when we think of loomer, I think what we think of really is her Twitter account. I'm her ex account. And the, so I, she can't seem to be keeping that up. I think also another motive here is number one. It looks like it's gonna be a lot less lucrative to be a maggot influencer for a while. You know, there's more oversight in Congress. What have you? So I could imagine her saying, you know, why don't I step back for a little bit? This would be a good time. And also, the knives are out. Everyone's stabbing each other for, you know, for factional position. And so I could also see it being a good idea to kind of like lay low, say, hey, I'm going on vacation until the heat blows over. I wonder if we're going to start seeing low. They're like, just not like, I don't think it's going to be the target of these investigations or oversight that comes from Congress. But I wonder if like as a secondary element, you're going to start seeing a lot of exposure around these pay-all-estate things, right? Like different companies that are trying to get favors for Trump. And that actually ended up getting favors for Trump. We're almost, well, I don't want to say surely, but very likely they were, they were doing this. Hey, let's like send some money these influencers get them to eat about this stuff for us, right? And that will come out in these investigations. I have to presume. Oh, totally. I think there's so much like weird graft that's been going on that, you know, it is all available. I mean, look, like I'm sure Data Republicans is going to get called up about being a secret Pentagon employee and, you know, all of these things that can spill out. What is the, yeah, and I was trying to figure out sort of that there's a lot of back and forth between Laura and Alex and your guy Jacob and all these people just kind of, can you like, it's hard. It's like charting the side is impossible. It would take one of those, you know, Pepe Silvia boards. But like, what is actually happening here? Yes. I want to address this because, you know, Jacob Tag, and so Jacob Angles, Roger Stone, Prodejay, and, you know, I'm not going to get too much into it, but basically he tagged me. I want to address this, but I'm not going to. Well, basically as a result, there was kind of like Lumer Pay Olamania and everyone loved Lumer Pay Ola things. And he said, I've been offering Will Summer proof of this Lumer Pay Ola for a while, and he's covering it up or whatever. Folks, I'm interested in it. We're getting more evidence. We've talked about it. This is not a cover up. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. So that's, I'll leave it at that. There's not, you know, trust me that I'm not in the pocket of big Lumer or whatever. So with that said, I mean, they'll look, there's a lot of like feuding on the right right now. And I think it's gotten a lot uglier after the election. And I think people like Alex Bruceowitz are trying to take out their enemies and, you know, a little bit of what we talked about earlier about the Israel stuff, but you're right. I mean, I think it's very kind of confused right now. And there's a lot of people being like raising random grievances. And then, you know, how this fits into a larger whole, I think remains the same. So there's this one sort of. feud happening over here around Luma and Peiola and all this stuff and that's going up. And then over here, there's like this other massive, even arguably bigger feud happening because Kayleigh means the old RFK, protégé, Maha, influencer type. Went on Joe Rogan and started saying, you know, we tried to do real Maha in the administration, but Suzy Wiles and the ballot partners, you know, and James Blair, they were just representing corporate interests. And that one just kind of went combustible over the weekend. >> Yeah, so let's talk about that. So I think this Rogan episode came out on Friday. Kayleigh means who was an RFK advisor. People may remember his sister Casey means always confusing because Casey's kind of more of a boy's name when he has the, he's Kayleigh, whatever. She was up for search in general and actually Laura Lumer helped take her down, right? So under suspicious circumstances. So I mean, now we need to like, no, I mean, this again, it's going to be such a juicy year. It's going to be. >> Yes. Yes, it's all coming out. And look, hit me up if you want to make a juice there. So basically, Kayleigh means he resigned, I think in September from the administration and he goes on Rogan and he says, you know, we weren't allowed to do real Maha. Because Susie Wiles, then the chief of staff and Ballard partners, these lobbyists, these very powerful Trump or lobbyists, and all these kind of various figures in Wiles's orbit. They were on the take by Pharma or food companies, all this stuff, and it's their fault. >> And people are freaking out. I mean, at one point, it means it was like telling Susie and James to stop texting him and like, you know, because there's getting too many threats, but they were like, you're full of shit. >> Yeah, Ballard partners, very unusual for them to be coming. They were just like saying, here's the legal letter. We just sent to Calle's and be quiet and I'll just say this, Calle, like, that dude can be a bitch in the best way just to be honest, like that guy, that guy like, we'll get in on you and he's just, he's nasty and he'll fight and he like, I remember putting up something about like, you know, that they, like, I forget I was by either some of the doge cuts or our measles or something. He just like went off of me and was like, what are you doing on Twitter, man, you're a senior government official. It's fine. But he's not one to kind of step back. >> Yeah, I mean, wait, we actually have the video. Let's play the video of him. I think we have from Rogan or something. >> Well, reality and why I left is that there is a very concentrated group of people in the Trump administration that are antagonistic to what people voted for and are frankly, I think it's very clear doing things for other reasons, particularly in many cases to enrich their families, and then he goes on to say Susie Wiles, and he names like a bunch of specific White House employees, I mean, Rogan completely, you know, ill equipped here to, you know, these people kept this pesticide glycophosate, I think, you know, the food, all this stuff. >> I just heard it's worth, I think it defended it in public, I mean, I didn't like it, I didn't like it, but, you know, farmers, something like that. >> So I think obviously Susie Wiles is out now. I think there is this effort on the right, because the one thing you can't look directly at is Donald Trump, and what he did, he paused these midterms. And so on one hand, there's a lot of like that darn Benjamin Netanyahu, you got us into this war, the Neocons, and then in terms of the corruption stuff, and in fact, as someone pointed to this out in the comments, my newsletter, that's right, maybe this is obvious to people, but I had missed it. But I think so much of the focus on the Iran stuff is also to avoid the corruption stuff. And so they're saying, well, look, you know, Susie Wiles, that's what voters were talking about. Oh yeah, I'm so sure. They were mad that her daughter went to the Republic of Serbska, you know, to got a hundred grand. No, they're mad about the mean coins in like all the other crazy schemes. So there's, Susie Wiles, it kind of crazy that Kayleigh is like all this corruption, but where he's talking about is like Susie's daughter, not Trump to take. Let me give you a funny, funny example of this stuff that's like the focus on Susie Wiles. Stephen Crowder had a show and he said he was like, yeah, voters were mad a little about the Trump family corruption. But you know, I think they're mad about more like entrenched interests. And that's like, for example, I have a new segment, we're going to go after these these entrenched interests called, can you f off enough? It was very weird. Now, the number one entrenched interest I'm mad about today is Venezuelan immigrants. And so this attempt to like, we have to take this anger at the Trump family and just put, we have to put it on a racial minority group. Ross Dathat did ask Trump about this in 60 minutes about the, the, the cryptocurrency and how he could possibly have profited $3 billion while in office. So there's some focus, but that's not, MAGA, I mean, and I think they should, you know, there would be, they would be better off if they actually dealt with the head on, I would just say. Oh, yeah. I mean, look, because you can, you can, the things they're looking at, they're trying to do, are easier to do. Like you can end the Iran war and Trump can still be president. You can fire Susie Wiles. But you can't really say, hey, Donald Trump trying to divest yourself of, of all your meme coins. You can say it though. You can't. You can say it. You can say, hey, you'd be better off if you didn't have this hanging over the Republican party. Can you just divest? You can join the meme coin business in two years, but like, maybe just do this for us. Apparently, as Trump would say, fuck off and, and I want to make money. All right. So the means thing blew up. The loomer thing blew up. Then there's the Katie Miller thing. So this is Stephen Miller's wife, and that's Stephen Moore's going to be chief of staff. She's got a podcast. Apparently, she will no longer have a podcast. She put this up. I make every decision based on what's best for my children and our family with Stephen Miller taking on this new role for President Trump. I've decided to stop recording new podcast episodes. Nothing is more important than raising our four kids. Well, I've loved to podcast the time commitment is too great. And now is the time to step away. I'll be cheering President Trump on his team on from the outside of the administration. I'll be airing the two previous taped episodes. Okay. At least we get the last one. Rare, rare Katie Miller pods about to drop. Thank God. I will just note the pod had the luxury of an incredible pipeline of guests, like literally everyone who wanted to, you know, influence the administration would go on that pod. And it did not do great numbers on YouTube. I think among the last four or several or under 10 K. So okay. Yeah. Yeah. Look, my interview with the Mississippi Shrimper got five times that. So congrats. Well, you were super excited about the Shrimper, and it just was like, when it happened, you were not. Well, it turned out he's still by the time I got to him, he really supported Trump still. Maynard Dubasson. Check it out, folks. Yeah. Well, I'm looking at her page quickly. All right. Last one. I don't even know what this person is. Seren Aldaco. Who is that? Do you know what that is? I don't know. So we're in Aldaco. No. It sounds like a fantasy character. Is that a real, is this a real person? I have no idea. It might be. All right. So maybe I was wrong about the pipeline. But she didn't have Bill Aldaco. She had Marco Rubio and his wife, I mean, just in the past few months, she's still been getting prominent administration guests. I have a couple thoughts here. Less prominent, buddy. Bill Ackman. Sorry. No. Not a really big one. Brian Armstrong, I guess. Sean Duffy. The Duffies. Yeah. Michael Knowles. Oh, the Rubios. That was a big one first. She got 664,000 for that one. Lauren Grimm. Kelsey Grammer. That's the big one. Doug Burgham. Doug, just 10k. Tom Homan. Doug Burgham is one of those ones where it's like, Burgham can do the pod. You guys want Burgham? And it's like a brother. I guess. Do we need to? I suppose. So I have a couple thoughts on this. Yeah. Number one, obviously, as you said, it wasn't really hitting in the numbers. But I think also, there's a sense that I could have seen if you wanted to influence the administration. It might have seemed like a good idea to buy ad space. There was even talk, I think, about the elephants buying Katie Miller's podcast at one point, that they were going to bring them in as, and based on the viewership numbers, it wouldn't make sense unless you were trying to say, hey, we really love mag and stuff. We got Stephen Miller's podcast. So I think now the Democrats are in control of Congress. Those opportunities are going to be less. And so maybe, like, Laura Lumer, Katie Miller said, you know what, let's just hang it up. Yeah. I'm looking at the AI overlord. I think this was some great assault, although the beast picked it up too. Paramount Skydain Senator David Austin exploded a production or distribution deal for the Katie Miller podcast, while Paramount sought federal approval for its $111 billion mega merger with Warner Brothers Discovery, the talks were presented as a potential way for them to kind of ease the merger, I suppose, luckily they did not buy because she ended the podcast. So there's that. Okay. Well, I don't really have any more thoughts on that stuff out there in the pod game. I don't, I don't begrudge someone for trying to hang it up. Hey, you got Marco Rubio. Pretty good. I love the idea that she's like the research is just so exhausting. You know, like, yeah, I think Marco Rubio, how do you keep your marriage strong? Plus, like, if it's for being real, we do like the bare minimum research, and look at the number my family life is, is Todd a great based on the amount of research. Yes. No, we put in a lot of work. guys just want to be clear. I was just joking about that. Unlike JD, I hide the punchline in my jokes. All right. There is two more things we got to play before we head out. Matt says we have 18,000 K watching concurrently right now, which is an awesome number, which is amazing. Thank you guys. We love you. Thanks for tuning in. I really appreciate that. We got two things to go before we say goodbye. Both of them are fun. Gavin McKinnis on election night. Yeah, they may not have had one too many. So let me foreground this. So this is Gavin Guinness, vice co-founder, and then founder of the Proud Boys. Gavin was on Tim Poole's election night live stream. And he was just so out of control. There's a woman, interestingly, this woman named Hannah Claire Brimlow was also on the panel. She is the son of noted white supremacist Peter, or excuse me, the daughter of white supremacist Peter Brimlow. But she just left this other show called the quartering because of it sort of creepy host. So now she's on with Gavin McGinnis. And we don't have the clip at this part, but there's a point because Gavin McGinnis is going on this like 10 minute talk, really explicit sex stuff about Hillary Clinton, just like gross. We aren't even going to play the clip because it's so gross. And so she, this is an election stream. What are they doing? And so she, you can see her kick the guy who's guest hosting. And then he kind of looks and then they start texting. And then someone intervenes to get Gavin off the air. Let's play that clip. Shit, back down. We're about to wrap the show. Wait, I have the whole Chris Quamos story. Okay, there's the Chris Quamos story. Okay, so you got a rock question. I might actually like a drunk idiot. I don't think I think you're sober. Anyway, just killed me. And he's like, am I a drunk idiot? I don't let anybody. I got to make Chris Quamos story. That's pretty good. That's pretty good. I have a story, which I wanted to say for the end. Because it shows how intertwined Mega Monday is with real world life for me. So I went, I went this, yesterday I went to go get a haircut because I needed a haircut and I barely had any time and I, so I ran to whatever, some random place because I, everything else was closed. I was doing it last minute. And I sit down in the chair and in the sky. Very lovely man. So I cut some hair. And you know, you don't really ever, I don't know how you feel about getting your haircut. I just, I just want to sit there. I don't want the conversation. I just, you know, they're always, they're like, how are you doing? How's your day? You room for the commanders to the, it's like, just cut. I don't want to, the small talk I'm not for. But whatever this guy starts small talk, what do you do? I'm a journalist or do you cover politics? What do you write about the elections? He's like, hmm, I didn't vote. I was like, okay. I was like, well, I didn't vote. He's like, well, I'm not a citizen. And that's okay. Where are you from? He's like, I'm from Albania. I was like, Oh, Albania. I was like, you guys are in the thick of it. He's like, yeah, yeah. It's like the island. He's like, yeah, the island. I was like, what do you think? He's like, Kushner. Not good, not good. He's like, but I'm really mad at the guy who sold him the land. And I was like, okay, yeah. He's like, yeah, he's like, he didn't own the land. He just sold it. It's like someone coming to my apartment saying, here's someone buy this apartment. That's a good point. Like Kushner, he's like, I, Kushner wants to build a resort. They find, but it's the guy who sold land. And then we start talking a little bit. And this is where it turns dark, just a warning for everyone. And we start talking a little bit about the government. I was like, yeah, they tried to, they bring down the Supreme Court buildings. They said, nothing to do with the island. So I get, you know, the flamingos. He's like, yeah, the flamingos. They're nice, but it's like, you know, but this government's so corrupt. And he goes something like, and I'm being dead. So he goes, so corrupt. They're going to end up being running by Jews. I was like, what? It's like, get those clippers. Oh, the guy will not be returning to this hair place. But the first part of the story was great. And I was very appreciative of talking about Kushner. And I was like, Oh, the small talk is not a big problem. I can deal with this. And then I was like, Oh, no, okay, I'm going to just quiet that. So yeah, so we, Maga Mondays, so we still have much to learn about the Balkans. And, you know, it's, you know, look, the, this, of course, is relates to the Kushner resort attempts on the Flamingo Island for, for Maga Monday, new list. There's a long, long, long, long, running Maga Monday topic that has inspired protests. I'm just super renewing when I was talking and bring it down. But yeah, that's, that is quite a story. And indeed it is a complex region. Yeah, I figured it out the hard way. Luckily, my hair was intact by the end of us. All right, we found, before we go, we did find the Michelin Del Vido that I did fall for. Yes. Oh, this, I was dying. So this video shows Michelin Del Vido to get high speeds while broadcasting. The engine revving and a particularly disheveled Michelin Del Vido. Not to be clear, that is a fake video. That is, why did I fall for that? That was so obviously, that one's been around for a few years. And I remember first seeing that and being like, oh, my God, is this real? Like, trying to, because he's not looking at the road at all. Barely touching the steering wheel. You can see it, though, as he's so insane and so obsessed with the lecture fraud that he's got to just, you know, post a video at any point. All right. Well, not funny now. Let's call the pod. Well, thanks for doing this, buddy. Do you want to tease what you're writing about? He's about the gooners right now. Yeah, stay tuned. There may be some gooning. There's also a huge amount of drama in the college Republicans speaking of another kind of goons over there. There's a huge crack up over what else criticizing Donald Trump. So the young Republicans are up in arms. And then, yeah, again, I mean, it's gonna be a spicy newsletter, folks. You can get it at the board. You can get at the board.com. Subscribe to the board on subs. Thank you. You also can subscribe to us on YouTube, by the way. It's fun. If you don't want to subscribe for money, there is the option of just doing it for free. You're not going to get all the great content that you got to hit the paywalls. Eventually, it'll be like, yeah, it's it's probably worth just subscribing. So I would say, just jump forward and do it anyway. All right, buddy. Have a go on, everyone else. This is Maggie Mondays talk to you later. Thanks gang.