The show combines satirical commentary on global events, politics, and pop culture, focusing on the controversial red card incident involving U.S. soccer star Flo Baligan and the political interference by President Trump in FIFA decisions. The narrative critiques how such interventions undermine sports integrity and international diplomacy, while also highlighting the absurdity of political posturing—such as Trump’s threats to invade Karg Island or the U.S. military's fictional destruction of Brussels. In parallel, the segment on Maine's Senate race exposes a deep scandal around Graham Platner, who faces credible allegations of sexual assault and a Nazi tattoo, raising questions about voter trust and political accountability. Despite public skepticism, Platner’s campaign remains in contention, leaving uncertainty about his replacement. The segment also celebrates Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s wedding, framed as a humorous, surreal event, while weaving in broader themes of celebrity culture, satire, and media manipulation. Through a blend of absurd headlines, mock interviews, and sharp social commentary, the show critiques modern media’s tendency to exaggerate, politicize, and trivialize serious issues—whether in sports, politics, or personal lives—offering a critical yet entertaining lens on contemporary American culture.
What's up Los Angeles! Welcome to Love It or Leave It live from Hollywood. I'm John
Lovett and Taylor Swift copied my wedding. It was my idea to invite
celebrities. We've got we have got a great show for you tonight but first
let's get into it. What a week. The World Cup. Trump may have wrecked America's
250th birthday, the National Mall, and the experience of seeing a person in any
red baseball cap at a distance. But the World Cup was a bright spot in a dark
summer as fans visiting from all over the world discovered ranch dressing and
Waffle House and the powerful air conditioners that help us survive the
summer on a diet of ranch dressing and Waffle House. And then last Wednesday
Flo Baligan, the US men's team's top scorer, received a red card in the game
against Bosnia after stepping on a defender's ankle. Just as an aside, I love
how soccer incentivizes these big dramatic performances from injured
players. The tears, the crying out to the heavens, the rending of garments, try
giving birth fellas, as the women cheer and carry me off on their shoulders.
Baligan was suspended for the following game where the U.S. would face a penalty.
The U.S. would face mighty Belgium. FIFA officials told reporters that the
suspension could not be appealed. But it turns out that FIFA rules are a lot like
the front lines in World War 1. They seem immovable when it involves Germans and
French and then America shows up late guns blazing. On Thursday Trump called
FIFA president Gianni Infantino, which is Italian for giant baby, and asked him
to review Baligan's suspension. Trump also threatened to invade Karg Island unless Infantino was fired.
Infantino opened up the Strait of Hormuz, but it was late and Trump is not great
after dark anymore. Infantino has spent years sucking up to Trump. FIFA rented
office space in Trump Tower, which has sat basically unused. Infantino also
awarded Trump the made-up and embarrassing FIFA Peace Prize. And then
on Sunday, FIFA made a stunning announcement. Baligan would be allowed to
play against Belgium. After all, the first time a red card had been overturned at the
World Cup since 1962. The Belgians were furious, though it is hard to tell
because it's impossible to look angry while eating a waffle. Think about it.
On Monday, Trump said he had nothing to do with the decision, but confirmed he
called Infantino. I understand sports really well, really well. And that wasn't
a foul. That wasn't even an infraction. No, these were two great athletes that
got tangled up. And this referee, who is a little bit suspect, if you check his
past. I don't want to say that because I don't like to create controversy, but
very suspect. If you'd like, I'll provide you with the past. Trump said that like he
bumped into the ref on Epstein's Island. The president, who, as he said, understands sports really
well, continued.
He didn't do anything wrong. And he's our best player or one of our best players, a
very vital player. And he gave him a red card. I didn't know what that meant. I didn't think
it meant much. Then I started hearing that that means he can't play in the next game.
That's very unfair. That's, you know, it's one thing to penalize somebody for the game.
But how do you penalize them for a game that hasn't been played yet? It's very unfair.
You can't do that. So, yes, I asked for a review by FIFA. I asked for a review by FIFA.
So that starts with Trump having a problem with this specific issuance of the red card.
Then Trump seems to have a problem with the existence of the red card generally. By the
end, Trump questions the abstract concept of punishment itself. How do you penalize
someone for a game that hasn't been played yet? You can't punish people in the past.
That's not how time works. That's how time cop works. Look, the red card was unfair. So in this instance, Trump used his corrupt influence
for good. But does that make it OK? Yes. I'm sorry, but you want Belgium to have an advantage
beyond the protected estuary that has allowed Antwerp to become a global shipping hub?
And sure, Trump's intervention has totally obliterated the international goodwill we
generated during our time hosting the World Cup. But that's not on us. Oh, visitors came
to our shores.
to a sense of belonging by America's grandeur and sense of possibility, only to be shocked by our
sociopathic ambition and competitiveness just beneath the surface? That's our whole thing,
the land of opportunity, where no dream or hospital bill is too big. Welcome to America, bitches.
Anyway, we lost to Belgium 4-1. Fuck. The official account for the Belgian team posted a picture of
their victory over the caption, overturn this. In a lighthearted response, the US military has
destroyed the city of Brussels. Here's the Belgian team celebrating their victory with a not-so-subtle
dig at Trump. Got him. Trump hasn't been this embarrassed in a locker room since that time he
accidentally hit on a Miss Teen USA.
Thought she was one of the contestants.
In less sporting news, Maine's hugely important Senate race was upended yet again, this time by
a credible allegation that the Democratic Party's nominee, oyster farmer and scandal aficionado,
Graham Platner, committed sexual assault in 2021. A former partner of Platner and a Democrat who
actually had hoped to avoid going public, told Politico that he forced her to have sex with him
despite her repeated objections, a claim backed up by emails with her therapist,
and messages warning an acquaintance about Platner back in 2023. Platner denied the allegations.
I wanted to directly address the troubling, serious, and false allegations against me.
Man, Bill Clinton really was one of a kind, wasn't he? He made you feel like you were the
only person in the room he was lying to.
Platner weathered scandals around his Reddit posts and the Nazi tattoo he got while serving in the
military. Polls showed that voters preferred Platner to Maine's governor, 78-year-old Janet Mills,
who suspended her campaign.
Rather than lose her last race and twist, it turns out this was the 178-year-old politician
who should have hung on to the bitter fucking end. In January, Platner was asked directly on
CNN if there would be any more scandals. Are there other skeletons from your past
that still may emerge in this race? No, my life is not very complicated and
no, there is not anything else coming. Skeletons? No skeletons, said Platner,
seen here in his backyard.
For those listening, it's a photo of Ralph Fiennes and 28 years later, colon, the Bone Temple.
Safe to say, Platner wasn't honest in that interview. He also wasn't honest about the
tattoo when he claimed on Pond Save America to have only recently learned what it meant. He
wasn't honest when he reassured Senate Democrats in June that there wouldn't be credible allegations
of assault, and it's hard to believe he's being honest now when the allegations suggest Platner
may have been too drunk to even remember what he had done. So while Platner has not yet officially
dropped out, his statement suggests he will.
Regardless of the inaccuracy of the reporting, but mindful of the political reality it will
inflict, we are taking the time to reflect on the best path forward for the state that
I love, the people that I love, the movement I belong to, and the goal of defeating Susan Collins.
What a disaster. Covered up that Nazi tattoo for nothing.
There will be people online who will say they were right about Graham Platner all along,
and to them I say congratulations, your medals are in the mail. The problem is,
if Graham Platner was always unacceptable,
the alternative was seen as even less acceptable by actual voters. Maine had to choose between a
scandal-plagued candidate who challenged the establishment versus a boring and uninspired
candidate who represented the establishment. And that should be a false choice. This is America.
We don't even accept having to choose between Pizza Hut and Taco Bell, despite our doctor's
tearful warnings. Every prominent Democrat has called on Platner to withdraw from the race,
and as long as he drops out by Monday, July 13th, he can be replaced on the ballot.
But who will replace him, and how will that person be chosen? Nobody knows.
Among the names are Janet Mills, who seemed barely interested in running in the first place,
Maine public health official Nirav Shah, and state senator and logger Troy Jackson,
both of whom lost their runs for governor, and Secretary of State Shana Bellows,
who previously lost to Collins in 2014 by 37 points. But you know what they say in Maine,
a loser is just a winner who hasn't won yet. They don't say that. They say, give me that lobster,
and, oh, we don't have many of you around here, and, is that Stephen King? Oh, no, that's a lobster.
We don't have many of you around here. That's about Jews, if that, did that come across?
Until then, as I've said from the very beginning, Janet Mills is 78, but a young 78. Let's go, Janet!
Let's go, Janet!
And finally, Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey tied the knot,
let's go, Janet!
and an intimate 1,000-person wedding inside New York's Madison Square Garden.
It ended with a judgment in Swift's favor, and Kelsey was TKO'd in. the third round. All right. We have got a great show for you tonight. Alana Eubach and Dana Goulder
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My guests tonight have been in everything you've ever seen,
and they were phenomenal. Put your hands together for Alana Eubach and Dana Gould.
Hi. You have the misfortune. What is it? We know each other quite well. I like it.
First of all, you're in TED together. We are in TED together, and we live in the same neighborhood.
You live in real life? We live in the same neighborhood. Really?
And I have had to take several medications because of this one. Oh, really? I wonder what kind of
medications that would be. Alana and Dana, you both have IMDb pages longer than Taylor Swift's
wedding guest list. But unlike Taylor's wedding, I'm here. So we're going to kick it off with a
classic love it or leave it game. It's called Was I In This? That's exciting. Here's how it works.
Alana and Dana will take turns asking you, our beautiful studio audience, about specific roles
from their long and storied TV and film work. Raise your hand if you'd like to try your luck
answering a question. Here's your cards, Alana and Dana. Here are your cards.
Thank you. Okay. Alana, why don't you kick us off? And what was your name, sir?
I'm Robert. Robert.
Robert. Alana, you want to ask him the question?
Yes, fella. True or false? I portrayed a closeted lesbian in 1995's The Brady Bunch movie. True.
Well, that's. Oh, shit. I'm so sorry.
Would you have known?
I. Yes.
Okay.
Yes.
Now. No, no, you did great. You did great. No, no, stay. Please, stay. Stay.
I'm not going to mess up the next one.
No, you did great. It's funny that it happened.
I've given the cue cards before here. Okay.
There's. Well, there's another question on this one for the next person.
True or false?
No, wait. Yeah, do the next one. Do that one.
Don't take this the wrong way, Alana, but your very existence is an offense against nature.
Wait, I want to talk about the Brady Bunch movie.
Okay.
So you were. You were Marcia's closeted friend. That was. I feel like there's a lot of gay kids that
that was like a seminal experience. I really do. That was a big deal that you played a
gay character in that movie in 1995.
Yes. And I was madly in love with Christine Taylor.
Yeah.
Who was married to Ben Stiller. And you have that Ben Stiller vibe, good looking, very
intellectual.
Wow. That's so nice.
Yes. No, it's a compliment. I tell you.
I mean, I accept it as such.
I was supposed to be in love with him in Meet the Fockers as well.
I had his baby, so I got both of them. A little polyamorous action there. And I got paid for it.
Do you think that today Marcia would be bi?
Would Marcia be bi?
And just lead you on, but in a bi way? Like, you know what I mean?
I don't. I mean. Like she's oblivious in the film. It works because she's from another era and you're
a lesbian, which is modern in 1995 or whatever. But Marcia couldn't know because she was a
creature from another time.
She really was.
But today she'd just be kind of lead you on, but in a bi way, I think.
A hundred percent. And Jan would be a they.
Oh.
Yeah, she would definitely be a they.
Oh, for sure. You know what? That's what she's been searching for. That's what they've
been searching for.
Absolutely.
Wait. Oh, yeah. Do you want to do the next one? And then we'll go to. Yes. Would anyone like to guess something else?
Someone else, raise your hand.
And I'll give you the answer. I promise.
This is going great.
Here, let's go to Betsy in the front row.
True or false? I played Paulette Bonafanti in Legally Blonde and Legally Blonde 2: Red,
White and Blonde.
False.
Woo!
All right!
You got it. You got it.
And you won a washer and dryer.
That was Jennifer Coolidge's character. You were the friend, Serena McGuire. That was
from a time when it was a big deal for a woman to be a lawyer.
Yes.
Back in the mid 2000s, like a woman lawyer with blonde hair and a lawyer with blonde
hair, a woman lawyer.
You too.
You too can go.
Wow. And she's kept surprising them by being good at it.
Right?
That's the twist in Legally Blonde is she's good at it.
She's a smart wife.
She's good at it.
She's good at it.
It's funny.
It's funny.
What? But she's good at it.
Dana, why don't you do a question? What's your name?
My name is Merith.
Nice to meet you.
Merith.
Merith, Dana, ask a question.
Hi, Merith.
Hi.
True or false? I played Paul Reiser's childhood friend, Frankie, in an episode of Mad About
You, a sitcom in the '90s, when to turn the channel on your television set, you had to
walk across the room and turn a knob with your hand like a monkey in a trap.
Frankie in a lab test trying to win a raisin.
Yeah. That was clearly before my time.
Yes.
I'm going to go with true.
Merith, that is false.
You looked me in the eyes and lied.
But I did play fragile Frankie Merman in an episode of the television series, Seinfeld.
So you dug a hole in that episode.
I did.
And then you wrote a Simpsons episode also about digging a hole.
I did.
You're a hole guy.
And it gets worse. And then I created a show called Stand Against Evil, and my character
was a gravedigger. And none of those things were intentional, but you step back and you
look and there's something going on.
There's something about you and getting into just digging.
Something that I can't do.
Instead of digging in dirt in the earth, get into the earth.
I can't wait to die. And yet I don't want to be buried. And yet I've told my children
when I die, I want my remains scattered along Mulholland Drive.
Huh.
Yeah.
But I don't want to be cremated.
Just bits.
Chunks.
Just chunks.
Fingers.
I want a coyote walking down the street with a hand in its mouth. Been dead two weeks and
I'm still on the neighborhood watch.
And do you care if it's north of the road or south of the road? Do you mind if it's
in the valley?
I want it to be north of the road.
Technically the valley.
I want it valley facing.
Technically you'll have been disposed of in the valley.
Yeah.
I'm 818 for life.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
It's hotter.
It's hotter.
I love the valley.
I prefer the valley.
I really do.
Speaking of.
All righty.
Who's next?
Hey.
My name is Paul.
Paul?
Yes.
True or false?
I performed the role of Judge Jeanine Pierrot in 2019's Bombshell.
True.
So.
All right, Paul.
So talk about getting into character to play Judge Jeanine.
It was all about the eyelashes.
It was eyelashes.
And then the character comes alive.
So.
That was all it took.
In a little box.
And I opened them.
And then we pulled them out.
Put a little glue on the eyelids at four o'clock in the morning.
And then put them back on.
And I was her.
That was it.
That's all it took.
Wow.
Yeah.
It was something else.
No.
I just watched a lot of YouTube.
And that was it.
A glass of wine at 11:00 AM?
Get into character a little bit?
Seven.
Seven glasses of wine.
Seven glasses.
A couple of boxes of wine.
A couple of boxes.
You know, just a couple of boxes.
Hey, did you read the book?
Did you read the book?
No.
She never did.
I wonder why.
Wait, Dan.
You were.
Wilford Brimley's in your episode of Seinfeld.
Yes.
And I played him on The Ben Stiller Show.
What?
Which we filmed a block and a half up the street.
So it all comes full circle.
I played Wilford Brimley on The Ben Stiller Show.
And I played Wilford Brimley on The Ben Stiller Show.
a block and a half up the street,
so it all comes full circle.
I played Wilford Brimley
on the Ben Stiller Show and parodies of oatmeal commercials,
as funny today as they were then.
And then, and Wilford was famously a little bananas.
And then when I met him on Seinfeld,
I was afraid that he might murder me
because my impression of him wasn't what one would call
respectful in any way.
But he just stuck a bare paw out and went,
Will Brimley.
And then I, because he was one of those,
like you read about, he was 26 when he made Cocoon.
Like he was just always old and frightening.
Yes, the ages, the ages of people in the films
that I grew up watching where they were the old characters
are now, like even the Golden Girls is the same way.
The cast of Cocoon was so young.
The traveling Wilburys were in their late 20s.
Yes, yes.
When they became a super group,
it's like, oh, look at these decrepit crooners.
It's like, those people are teenagers.
They're 31 years old.
Wilford Brimley, it's fucked up.
Do you think it's that we look better
because we drink more water?
Sometimes I think it's that.
Something clearly happened because I am,
I am far beyond where I can,
I am now older than the age I used to put in scripts
for people that were old.
Now I have to like update it.
She's an old woman, 107.
Like I have to just keep moving it farther away from my age.
I don't think it's the water.
I think it's the Botox.
I think it's the Restylane.
I think it's the Juvederm.
The Juvederm?
Oh, should I get that?
The Plime.
On Bedford Drive.
And I think it's those fellas.
Oh, man's a miracle worker.
I put a little Juvederm in my coffee in the morning
and I find that that helps.
I don't think you're supposed to drink it,
but I don't think it hurts.
You look like you're seven.
Yeah, I look like I'm seven from the Juvederm
I drink in my coffee.
You want to do one more?
I want to do one more question.
That was one of the many QAnon conspiracies.
Give Mira a shot.
That's good.
That's perfect.
You guys ready?
Good idea.
Thank you for hosting.
All right, you're doing great.
I'm out of control.
True or false?
I lent my voice to many prostitute bystanders
in Grand Theft Auto V.
I got you.
I got you.
You saw me going,
well, that's weird.
True.
True.
I won.
I won.
What's that?
What are those days like
when you're going in to record
the various conversation trees
as a prostitute in Grand Theft Auto V?
Well, I'll tell you, Johnny.
I was asked at the last minute,
I think I was,
I think I was taking someone's place.
Someone was sick.
And so I walked in and for $223,
I played all of the female characters
in Grand Theft Auto.
Wow.
Isn't that wild?
It's a good thing not a lot of people bought it
because you owed more money.
I know.
I just, I was like, residuals.
Keep the money.
What's money?
Money, math.
Math is boring.
Fuck.
Tough business.
Honey.
A lot to think about.
Was it a whole day?
A lot of, it must have been a lot of things.
In and out in 30 minutes.
Wow.
30 minutes.
Well, it's just, it was just like,
look out!
You know, stuff like that.
You better run!
Oddly, the motto of many prostitutes.
I'm on to you, man.
Oh my God!
He's after me.
Huh.
Those used to be the,
those were the auditions that I always used to have to go on
when I was, thought I would be an actor.
I was, I was.
Okay, Dan, any time.
Jag, don't.
Thank you.
That's hard.
That's hard to do just the little bits.
It's, no, it's actually incredibly difficult.
Yeah.
I'd rather say a lot.
Wait, Dan, do one more.
Do this one about Chip.
Oh, true or false?
By the way, the audience is looking at me
like the jury in a trial I'm losing.
Um, true or false?
I played Chip, a wealthy member of the Wentworth family
visited by Roseanne in season nine of ABC's Roseanne.
True.
You got it.
True.
You got it.
Season nine.
Season nine of Roseanne.
Is that after they won the lotto?
I was after they won the lotto.
And I was also in the last season of Seinfeld.
I was like the Grim Reaper of every sitcom in the 90s.
I would show up and they're like,
all right, Dana's wrapped.
Break down the set.
Sell the watch.
Give them one.
Like when they let me pitch on the last game of Little League,
even though I was terrible.
That's your role in these shows.
I would literally come in with a scythe and a cloak.
Now, I'm here to play the neighbor.
I have a theory, which is that Roseanne has become
Rosie O'Donnell's Wario.
What do you think about that?
What was Roseanne like at the end of that show?
Well, here's a funny,
she had sort of taken the reins of the show
and chased John Goodman,
and several other actors off of the premises.
And at one point we were sitting there
and I was acting with Dina Merrill,
who's a giant movie star.
And we're just sitting there.
And the director goes,
you know what would be good?
And Roseanne goes,
you're talking to me.
And the rule was that the director
was not allowed to talk to Roseanne.
So he had to go through an intermediary.
It was-
Sounds like a healthy environment.
The wheels had come off.
Yeah.
I also just think creatively,
it was a mistake for that family to win the lottery.
Yeah.
Because that was the whole thing.
It's like, what do we do?
Well, that's what made it so charming and endearing.
Right.
It's a little bit like, again,
like the last season of Mad Men,
they'd be like, no more ads.
Yeah.
Wait.
No more affairs.
Yeah.
We're going to keep it clean.
It'd be like,
what if the Beverly Hillbillies were poor?
Then it would be sad.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're not friends anymore.
Yeah.
Dumb Sherlock Holmes.
No one wants to see that.
Yeah.
You got to do the thing they came for.
Does anyone know who murdered this man?
I'm stumped.
I'm stumped.
I can't figure it out.
Oh, guys,
I think we got the wrong guy.
All right.
I'll be right back.
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Family relate to the monsters.
They were both on at the same time.
That's insane.
1964.
Yeah, no, it was crazy.
That's crazy.
Like, remember there was Armageddon
and Deep Impact at the same time?
Deep Impact was the sophisticated Armageddon.
About like, no, not how they did it with the drills.
We have a better way of doing it.
Big N18 again.
Oh, yeah.
Big N18 again.
People have mediocre ideas at the same time.
And vice versa.
Remember vice versa?
No.
With Judd.
With Judd Reinhold.
Right, what?
I thought you were way younger than me.
Oh.
You're a little spring chicken, no?
No, it's got that Juvederm.
Look at him.
I got that Juvederm.
You drink that Juvederm.
Are you 107?
I'm 43 years old, but I also, I've. He's older than Irene Ryan was
at the end of Beverly Hillbillies.
She was in her early 30s.
She was in her early 30s on that show.
All right, we're back.
This is part of the show now.
She also played Gidget during the summer.
So, and we'll get you back to your care.
Center as soon as we can.
You're today, by the way, you're doing a great job
as part of this effort to kind of get you out
into the world.
I had, I had Jell-O today.
Oh my God.
My dad's 95.
Your dad's 95.
Still going.
Yeah, still going.
Can't, can't get close enough with a steak and a mallet.
No, it's alarming.
It is.
No, it's alarming for sure.
Steak and a mallet.
I'm trying to understand.
Oh, it's like, he's a vampire.
Oh, I'm so stupid.
No, I thought he was eating a steak.
No, he probably is right now.
Steak and a mallet.
You know what?
You know what it is?
I don't think they, you don't need the mallet.
They never have a mallet.
You brought a mallet into it as if that's the classic way of saying it.
You know, you know, what's the guy?
What's not?
What's the guy?
Val Van Helsing.
There's no fucking mallet.
Yeah.
He does a steak.
He's got a mallet.
He has a mallet?
Yeah.
I thought you just jam it in there.
What are you, worry it in?
Slowly worry it in?
It's probably a rubber mallet.
Yes.
The vampire awakens.
Hard part's over.
Hard part's over.
Worry it in.
You're watching John, love it or leave it.
Oh my God.
That's so funny.
Oh, shut up.
Shut up, Dracula.
I'm killing you.
You're right.
There's a mallet.
Of course there's a mallet.
There's a mallet.
- Of course there's a mallet.
- Of course.
Sherlock Holmes comes in.
Maybe we could shame him to death.
No!
Alana.
Yes?
Hey, what was it like the first day
to act with that little bear?
Oh, well.
On Ted.
He is not a bear.
Oh.
No, he's just like two eyeballs
on a metal stick.
Yeah, because I assumed
Seth MacFarlane was too rich
to be hiding behind the couch
during the takes.
No, well, he's hiding behind the bushes.
Oh, he's in there.
Yeah.
Wow.
He's in there.
They have him in this little booth
and they basically,
first season,
they had him,
they had all of these wires
connected to him
to pick up all of his emoting
and expressions and everything
and he read with us
off camera for every single scene.
Wow.
And we were looking at
two little eyeballs
on a metal stick
the entire time
but we had to because of CGI.
And then,
in a matter of a year
when we did second season,
he no longer needed
anything.
He didn't need any of those wires
because technology
had already advanced.
So you could just film them.
We don't even need
the dots anymore.
We don't even need
those fucking dots.
Eat shit, those little dots.
That's amazing.
Do you have to talk to this bear?
I didn't have to talk to the bear.
You didn't get to talk to the bear?
But I did write
some of the bear's dialogue.
Oh, you wrote the bear?
Yeah, and you also played
a priest on the show.
I did.
I played Alana's priest.
He put the dildo on the bear.
Huh.
He wrote the dildo.
He wrote that episode
with the dildo on the bear.
No, it is true.
I wrote the episode I wrote.
You start out writing
a funny pastiche
of the graduate.
And then you find yourself
Googling,
what size is the average dildo?
Yeah, they look bigger, though.
I mean, they look bigger.
Seth always likes to say,
I just wanted to do
a musical comedy.
I just wanted to do
a musical theater.
And before I know it,
I'm on set,
and they're just
showing me different sizes
of dildos.
And I'm like, yeah,
that'll work.
That'll work on the bear.
It's the kind of thing
where you don't think
you're going to have an opinion,
then you see two dildos,
and suddenly you got an opinion.
You're going to have an opinion.
It's like interior decorating,
in a sense.
You're like, I didn't know
I cared about this,
but now I have an opinion.
They're not anatomical
at all anymore.
Oh.
No, they're just like weird,
lime green,
twisty shapes,
and bright orange,
curly cues.
Sex toys now look like
replacement limbs
for an all-Muppet
veterans hospital.
Now, Dana,
you've been interviewing
people dressed up
as Dr. Zaius
from Planet of the Apes.
And I'm going to just
say that sentence again.
Dana,
you've been interviewing
people dressed up
as Dr. I would like to show
everyone a clip.
Like, I imagine
the inventor of Pringles
opening up a bag
of potato chips
going,
ah!
Like,
he's like,
he feels like a bag
of potato chips
the way you hear
like Werner Herzog
describing birds.
Like, oh,
it's hideous.
It's nothing but screaming.
I can't handle.
Dana, did you ever worry
that you're too niche?
Not obscure enough.
I was so glad
you were coming on the show
because this started
coming across my feed.
And I just,
as is the case these days,
you'll see something
and you'll,
it's like,
how long has this
been going on?
Why is this not
more, well,
how is this a secret?
Yeah, it's genius.
It's what?
It's genius.
This is so insane.
I feel like either
this must,
this must either
have just begun
or the world
should be talking
about this.
How,
how are you getting
dressed up as Dr. Zaius
and having a talk show?
Why isn't anyone
stopping this?
How did it happen?
The whole thing
is something of
a horrible miracle.
So,
how did this start?
When,
when,
when?
I,
okay,
the,
the very truncated
version of the story
is I wrote a sketch
for the Ben Stiller show
a block and a half
up the street in 1992.
Dr. Zaius
is doing Mark Twain
tonight.
I thought it'd be
really funny
and we got canceled
before I got a chance
to do it.
And 18 short years
later,
I did it
on a John Hodgman
show at Sketch Fest
in San Francisco.
because by then
I met a makeup,
I have a lot of friends
in that business
because I work
in horror movies.
I love horror movies.
Do you pay them
every single time?
Every goddamn time.
That's expensive.
And so,
little hobby.
I did it there.
That got on YouTube.
You can see it.
Dr. Zaius is Mark Twain.
It'll come up.
It's very funny.
And then someone said,
hey,
could you do this
political benefit?
I did something as I hosted
as Dr. Zaius.
And then,
hey,
could you get onto Atlanta
and they want to interview you
for the Fathom events
when they show
Planet of the Apes
in theaters?
And I did it
and it just became
a weird side hustle.
And then during COVID,
my friend Rob Cohen,
who was,
uh,
I worked with on Stiller,
said,
why don't we do a talk show
like Space Ghost?
Because it was COVID
and we were bored
and I thought,
here's what's good about it.
It's going to cost
a fortune to do.
But it will put us at risk
of being sued by Disney.
I actually did want to ask you
about the rights.
Yeah.
Good question, John.
So,
no,
we have an arrangement.
We have a gentleman's agreement
that if I don't make
too much money,
they're not going to
kick up a fuss.
And I told them,
no worries.
So,
a recent study
out of East China
Normal University
in Shanghai
found that mask wearing
increased what the researchers
described as
malevolent creativity
by heightening anonymity
with no effect
on moral sensitivity.
The study defines
malevolent creativity
as intentional use
of novel ideas
to disrupt social order
or undermine
cultural values.
Is that the goal?
It's not the goal,
but it's a delicious
side effect.
But it really is.
I will,
I will,
I will say,
like,
you know,
I,
I'm,
I can act,
but I'm not an actor.
But I do actually,
when I'm in,
when you're in that much makeup
and you're in the costume,
you think differently.
My wife says,
like,
you're gone when you do that.
You walk differently.
You sit differently.
It's called
In the Zone.
In the Zone.
And I will come up with stuff
because,
because of his personality.
His,
his personality
is basically Sammy Davis Jr.
He's just like,
he knows everybody
in the business.
He loves everybody
in the business.
It's not between two ferns.
It's obsequiousness
to a ridiculous degree.
And,
which is much more
my personality.
And,
but I will say things
that I don't think
I would think of
or,
I was interviewing
Weird Al Yankovic
and I just went like,
Al,
and I,
I think I speak for everyone
here in the audience
when I ask,
what do you do?
And like,
I would never have said that.
But there's something,
it's funny because
you can say that.
Yeah,
this,
because Jiminy Glick
has that a little bit too.
There's,
there's like a freeing thing.
It's much more profitable
than what I do.
What if over time,
you start to realize
that you write better
or think better
as Dr. Z
and you're like,
you know what?
If I'm going to really
write this script,
I got to get into the,
and then more and more
of your days
are spent in the costume
until one day
there is no Dana Gould.
That's an indie.
That's A24.
There's only Dr. Z.
That's a movie.
I would green light that
in a hot minute.
That's a movie.
I would.
Not going to happen.
But the idea of
there is no Dana Gould
will eventually be true.
Alana.
Do you ever wake up
on a day when you have to act
and go,
ugh, acting.
I hate this.
What a mistake I made.
Oh, gosh.
I,
no.
I had a lobotomy.
And I just love it.
I still do.
It's,
it's very weird.
No, I,
I'm a dog with a ball.
It's,
I have this dog Stewie.
He passed away
not too long ago
and not to depress anyone,
but it's a beautiful story.
He loved his red ball.
And even at the very end,
like the day he died,
he just,
he just loved the ball.
And I just,
I love the ball.
I'm,
I'm that kind of a weirdo.
I'm a freak.
Yeah.
Isn't that weird?
It's cool though.
Oh, it's,
it's,
I'm Santa Claus
and the Santa Claus
at the mall.
You do the thing you love.
Yeah, I love it.
I will say,
I will say,
I do.
Because I was,
she played the mom
on the show Ted.
Scott Grimes played the father
and I was in the writer's room.
And we would finish
these scripts
and we thought
they were pretty
goddamn funny, John.
All these people
have to do is read it
and it's gold.
And what you see
on the show
is so much funnier
than what left the room.
You know,
they really are,
all that cast
is so great
and they're really,
they're really brilliant.
It was a good time.
Yeah, she's terrific.
That was a good time.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Sorkin used to say
when we were working
on the newsroom
that his ideal director
would just take his scripts
and put them on a music
stand and then have
a white glove
just turn the pages
for the audience at home
to just read.
That was his ideal version
of one of his films
being directed.
He dated Pauline Poroshkova.
Oh, interesting.
I remember that
for like a hot minute.
Do you know anything about it?
Do you have his phone number?
Let's call him.
Let's ask what she was like
horizontally.
I'm no fool.
He never gave me his number.
Alana,
you're in Lucky,
which is premiering
on July 15th
on Apple TV+.
The plus
is for the
TV shows.
Yes.
That's what the plus is.
Yes.
It's for the shows.
Yes.
Anya is phenomenal in it.
She's a con artist
and she cons myself
and I,
yeah,
and I get to pull
a gun out on her
and there's this
wonderful
rattlesnake
in my episode
named Mr. Whiskers.
I think his name is
and he's been
in the business
for a long time.
He was born
without a rattle
apparently.
Oh, wow.
And so they have
his little rattle costume.
hung up for him in his trailer and then they put it on.
And I was in a scene with him
And I think it was the same rattle from Euphoria
Mr. Whiskers
Check out Dr. Z
On YouTube on hanginwithdrz.com
And you can catch Alana in Lucky
Premiering on July 15th on Apple TV
Plus the plus stands for TV shows
And oh
Dana's new special Perfectly Normal
On 800lb Gorilla's YouTube channel as well
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Pop culture
Boy, we love it
But sometimes, can you know what it's real?
People
Cyber game we're calling the people have spoken
Here's how it works
Alana and Dana, I'm going to read you an insane headline
You will tell us
Is this a real honest to God people headline
That a human being wrote up
Or a fake one that our human beings wrote up
Alrighty
Are you ready?
Yes
First up
Singer G Flip gets thigh tattooed with meaningful ink
By off-campus cast in sweet behind the scenes video
Yes, it's true
You got it
Did you know any of that?
It was just too specific
It didn't seem like it
Didn't sound like my G Flip
G Flip
G Flip
G
G Flip
How do you say hello to Flip Wilson?
Come on
G Flip
You're in Karnak now?
What the fuck are you doing?
I'm up here for me
Yeah, yeah
I meant it for you
You know he's doing Karnak?
You clods
I'm insulting them for you
The cotton tops know
Yeah
Astronaut opens up about what it's like to be on Ozempic in space exclusive
False
Got it
Got it
That's fake
We made it up
We made it up
Yeah, the astronaut
They don't interview astronauts
I'm gonna
I'm just gonna say this
With no experience
But I'm gonna guess that zero G is not where you want diarrhea
Next headline
Sarah Bareilles told Anderson Cooper she wouldn't give him writing credits after he inspired a song
Quote, you have enough money
True
I hope it's true
Yeah, it is
She said that
Really?
No credits
From Sarah Bareilles
Snow-haired news maven
With his t-shirts
Yeah
John Saina debuts bald look in preparation for second hand transplant
I went all in
That is
That is true
I saw that
Bald look
It was true
Yeah
There he is
Yeah
And there's a sweetness to him
He looks
You know
I like him bald
He looks nice like that
I think he looks hot
He looks good
Yeah
I have a theory about bald men
Let me tell you something
Here it comes
There's a lot of testosterone
going on when you lose your hair
You know what I'm saying ladies
Right?
Woo!
They fell asleep again
Yeah
Come on guys
Anyway
Well you can do the
You got it
Cause you got
Well you have to have the head for it
You have to have
You have to have the head for it
Patrick Stewart
The Ed Harris
Yeah they have that
There's something
Bald guys turn me on
Good ridgelines
Yeah
Not like me
No, no
I would just
I would look
It would be bad
Yeah
It would be bad
Yeah I just think
There's no way around it
Some people
I just
It wouldn't work
It wouldn't work
It wouldn't work
I look
One of those marshmallow
Remember those
Foam marshmallow peanuts
Uh huh
Yeah that's what I got
Yeah
Sort of
Yeah but not facing
The way you think
Rowan Hugh Thatch
Yeah
Not every day
But more than you think
Mary Steenburgen
On her marriage
To Dead Danson
New pictures
True
Very boring
I was gonna say
It's true
I was gonna say
It was true
But it's not about
What you think
Yeah right
It's just about
It's about baking
Yeah
Did she really say that
Jojo Siwa
Clarifies comments
On Israel
True
True baby
No
No we made it up
Oh let's do two more
Dua Lipa's
Terrifying health scare
A psychic told me
I had Lyme disease
I hope that's true
Please make it be true
Riley Green admits
He thought his ex-girlfriends
Would text him
When he won
People's sexiest
Country star
They didn't
Um true
Yeah
Yeah
It was real
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
I like that one
Yeah
Oh that's sad for him
That see
And by the way
That's that's the problem
Like the Riley
His dream
That's the sexiest
Country star
He is hot
Ned Flanders
Woo
You could try to mock that
That's a hot guy
No that's a beautiful
That's from his new album
Oakley Doakley
I I I
He can Oakley
My Doakley
All night long
The Oakley Doakley
Well you're jealous
You're jealous
The boys are jealous
Oh my god
Oakley Doakley
Oakley Doakley
No I don't understand
The uh
The mustache
I do
The the raw
The just the
I do
Single stache
I do
No I know a lot of people do it
I I don't uh
I don't get it
I just have never
I I've never been able to
I get it all night long
It's working for a long time
Well it is a
It's a
You look like a porn star
You know
I know
I mean he does look cool
Or a fireman
I think certain people
Can pull it off
And certain people
Can really pull it off
And I think he's pulling it off
It's a beautiful blue mask
I don't think I would pull it off
I think I would look
Like a baby in disguise
It's a thick mustache
Look at that
Like a sick baby in disguise
Yeah
Like a
Like a baby
Like a medically
Yeah
Toddler trying to sneak
Into an R-rated movie
Well
Now that the markets have closed
I guess I'll go see Transformers
That's fantastic
Um
Yeah he's gorgeous
I don't get it
You've won the game
Alright
Now
He's
You've
You've won the game
He spat
With daggers in my eyes
We're having fun right
Yes
Yes
I've had a great time tonight
Yes show me more
Naked guys on your
On your TV screen over there
But the question is
Did everyone else
Because I'm not
Because it's time for a segment
We call Second Thoughts
Uh oh
Here's how it works
I have a comprehensive list
Of all the things
That the producers of this show
Wish I had done differently
And I'm going to run through them with you
Because we're going to
We're going to learn and grow
And if you have any second thoughts
About tonight
This is your opportunity
Let's do it baby
First up
I shouldn't give the Pentagon ideas
About destroying the city of Brussels
Also I should have said
Bruges
Bruges
Bruges
Bruges
Is the city Bruges
In Bruges
Bruges
Bruges
Just Bruges
Yes
Maybe that's a funnier word
I tried my main accent
What is
Do you do a main accent
Well we did it
Because we had the joke for it
I didn't
Unlike you
We wrote the joke
And then saw if I could do it
Right
Well no
I'm from Massachusetts
And I can't do a main accent
Well I think
You sort of
You kind of
To me
It's in the back of your mouth
It's in the back of your mouth
You're sort of like
What if Katharine Hepburn
Didn't shake as much
You know
You know what I mean
You do Katharine Hepburn
But you don't
You just kind of
You leave it
You leave it up here
You don't let it vibrate
You don't let it shake
You just kind of do
Because once it starts shaking
Then you're in the
Katharine Hepburn thing
You know the old joke
About Katharine Hepburn
Going into the adult novelty store
And she goes
Do you have those
Little eggs
That people put inside
Their vaginas
That vibrate
And they go
Yes we do
How do you turn them off
How do you turn them off
Yeah it's a great joke
It's a great joke
And that's a great
And that's a great joke
That's a great joke
Katharine Hepburn
Katharine Hepburn
A legend
Another timely reference
It probably wasn't
It was a mistake
For me to say to the audience
That was about Jews
I called Dana a big
A big hole guy
I shouldn't have said
How old I am
Let's see
I argued about the logistics
Of killing a vampire
And was wrong
I'm not having this argument again
I brought up a study
From East China Normal University
I failed to explain
Any context of the dildo on TED
Didn't even ask a question
Or a follow up
You know
Always better in theory
Than practice
- Yeah.
- 100%, 100%.
- Better to be talked about than seen.
I thought you meant dildos are better in theory than practice.
I did.
Oh.
I did mean that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's fantastic.
You have to watch that episode.
Which episode?
It's the first one, isn't it?
Or the second?
I believe it is the, I don't know.
Second.
Yeah.
It's a funny one.
No, type in dildo teddy bear.
Yeah.
Don't type in dildo teddy bear.
Don't.
Hey, do yourselves a favor.
Don't.
You can try something else.
Vibrating dildo teddy bear.
So find it.
Yeah.
Dildo teddy bear.
You're going to get an AI Elvis film that you don't want to watch.
You type dildo teddy bear into your search bar, then it's just.
Yeah.
There's a knock on the door.
Yeah.
But here's the thing.
It's sad that if you type dildo teddy bear into your search bar, something's going to
come up, you know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I often wonder if, like, well, I, during COVID, I watched all of the porn.
All of the porn.
All of it.
I got, I finally clicked on the last link and it was just a skeleton and a miner's hat.
That's it.
You're all done.
You're all done.
Holding up a lantern and a mine.
There's nothing left.
Wow.
How much of that time were you gay, you think?
A good 30, 33%.
It's always 35%.
It's always 35%.
It's always 35%.
Kinsey scale.
But I just could not keep myself dedicated to the necessary physical fitness.
What is your favorite porn?
It's been years.
That's a weird thing.
In all honesty.
I like Behind the Green Door.
In all honesty.
Naughty Marietta.
All.
Yeah.
But all of, like, the.
When I watched porn.
Sex boat.
All those women are now, like, old, nice old ladies now.
You know, it's like.
They're all.
But they still have spirit.
Yeah.
Possibly, this is where I'm going to end the show.
Yes.
I just.
That is where we're at.
And we could.
Yeah.
Just as.
You know who the first porn I saw was Lucy.
You know, the one they found in Africa.
Yeah.
You mean, like, awesome?
Yeah.
Awesome.
Awesome.
Awesome.
That was the first one.
It was Clan of the Sex Cave Bear.
And it was a spinoff.
Oh, a spinoff.
A spinoff.
All right.
And that's our show.
Thank you, sellers.
Jolana Ubach and Dana Gould.
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Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The U.S. men's soccer team's top scorer, Flo Baligan, received a red card against Bosnia, leading to a suspension that was later overturned by FIFA after Trump intervened, raising concerns about corruption and the fairness of disciplinary processes.
Trump’s public pressure on FIFA president Gianni Infantino to review the red card decision, including threats to invade Karg Island, highlighted political interference in international sports governance and damaged diplomatic goodwill.
Despite the red card reversal, the U.S. lost 4–1 to Belgium, and the Belgian team responded with a satirical "overturn this" post, while the U.S. military humorously "destroyed" Brussels, reflecting the absurdity and tension of the situation.
In Maine, Democratic nominee Graham Platner faced serious allegations of sexual assault and a Nazi tattoo, leading to a scandal that undermined his campaign despite polling support, and prompting debates over transparency and voter choice.
The political fallout from Platner’s allegations created uncertainty about his replacement, with several candidates including Janet Mills, Nirav Shah, and Troy Jackson considered, though none were clearly endorsed.
Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce held an intimate, 1,000-person wedding at Madison Square Garden, ending in Swift’s victory and Kelce being “TKO’d” in the third round, blending celebrity, humor, and showmanship.
The show features a mix of pop culture commentary, fake headlines, and interviews, including Dana Gould’s long-running "Dr. Zaius" persona and the absurdity of political and celebrity narratives.
The hosts critique media saturation, political hypocrisy, and the misuse of public platforms, highlighting how entertainment and real-world issues are often tangled in satire and misinformation.
Summary:
S. soccer star Flo Baligan and the political interference by President Trump in FIFA decisions. S.
military's fictional destruction of Brussels. In parallel, the segment on Maine's Senate race exposes a deep scandal around Graham Platner, who faces credible allegations of sexual assault and a Nazi tattoo, raising questions about voter trust and political accountability. Despite public skepticism, Platner’s campaign remains in contention, leaving uncertainty about his replacement.
The segment also celebrates Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce’s wedding, framed as a humorous, surreal event, while weaving in broader themes of celebrity culture, satire, and media manipulation. Through a blend of absurd headlines, mock interviews, and sharp social commentary, the show critiques modern media’s tendency to exaggerate, politicize, and trivialize serious issues—whether in sports, politics, or personal lives—offering a critical yet entertaining lens on contemporary American culture.
FAQs
Yes, Flo Baligan received a red card in the U.S. match against Bosnia, but FIFA later overturned the suspension, allowing him to play against Belgium. This was the first red card overturn since 1962.
Yes, Trump called FIFA president Gianni Infantino to request a review of the suspension. While he claimed he didn’t do anything wrong, his intervention raised questions about the fairness and transparency of the decision.
The U.S. lost to Belgium 4-1. The outcome was met with criticism, especially after the red card controversy and the political backlash over Trump's involvement.
Yes, credible allegations were made that Graham Platner committed sexual assault in 2021. The claims were supported by emails and messages, though Platner has denied them and claimed there are no further skeletons in the closet.
Platner has not officially dropped out, but his statements suggest he may withdraw. His campaign faces significant pressure, and there is uncertainty about who will replace him on the ballot.
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