Trump Goon Scott Jennings Taken Out; Behind the Scenes Freak Out Exposed

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See our seven-day return policy at carvana.com. All right. Our MAGA Slayer, Scott Jennings Slayer, Adam Mockler, is back in studio with me today. Adam, today I would like to talk about something that you do that you should earn an award for. I would even say a FIFA Peace Prize for. Thank you. A whole FIFA Peace Prize. Wow. The FIFA Peace Prize. And it is your ability to trigger Lady Jennings on CNN. And I want to play this clip, and then I want you to give us a behind-the-scenes, like, what happened before in the green room and what happened after. I got you. Play the clip. I'll know that Scott Jennings is more than happy to defend a war with a country that starts with the letters IRA that we are currently failing, that is going to put us trillions and trillions of dollars more in debt. I was only a few years old while you were in the administration defending prior endless wars. Now, this war is failing. Eight weeks is endless to you? Okay. You said it was going to be four to six weeks. You have the attention span of a gnat? Is that what you had? I debated you on TV four to six weeks ago, and you said we were weeks away from it. Now you're making condescending remarks because you can't defend the fact that this war is not going your way. Wait, one more time. Not going your way. Name one political concession. Get your fucking head out of my face. Ooh! Oh, shit. Ooh, he told you. Okay, what happened immediately on the commercial break? Ooh, it was really, really awkward for a second there. And I remember saying in the commercial break, okay, no tantrums as we head into this next segment. And everyone was like, what? And I was like, no more tantrums in this next segment. It was a really funny moment because I was very clearly calling Scott out. We're sitting there. We're sitting there very intensely for a moment, and he tries to make jokes about, I don't know, like sports coming up. He's like, oh, there's a game this weekend. But there's a lot of tension there. Actually, I want to back it up a little bit because there's a whole story behind this. We want the tea. We want all the tea. So this is genuinely a moment of frustration from Scott Jennings because he had backed himself into an indefensible corner regarding the Iran war. I wasn't lying on that panel. I had been with him on panels week after week after week, and he kept saying the war is going to end soon. It's only going to be two weeks. It's only going to be four weeks. It's only going to be four to six weeks. Now we're over 200 days into it. And it's funny watching that clip because he accuses me of having the attention span of a gnat, and then it's only been eight weeks or whatever. Well, look at this. We're now over 200 days into it, and he is still defending the same war that is failing. But week after week after week, I saw him get slightly more disturbed by the way the war was going, and I could see it in his posture. When you walk in, usually there's a few minutes where you can like chat and diffuse attention or talk about something, anything, sports, travel. And he started to be more and more distant during those. Like one time I walked in, he immediately just walks out of the room. Like he walks away. Another time I walk in and we're in the green room and he doesn't say hi, he refuses to acknowledge me, which was very peculiar. So week after week after week, I felt like there was more and more tension being introduced due to this Iran war. And as I said in our prior episode, I don't want to play by the rules that are established on these shows. Scott Jennings goes in and he will play the rules to his advantage. He will make sure that he says something condescending. He crosses his arms. And then due to the time limitations of the segment, everyone will oftentimes move on. I said, F that. If he's going to lie, we're going to sit there and hold him down to the truth. So that's why I asked him one more time, name one concession we've gotten from Iran this entire war. He didn't answer. So I say one more time, name one concession. And that's when he freaked the hell out on me. Now, the last normal conversation I had with him was before that episode. I remember vividly, I had really shitty shoes on and I was like, man, I was worried about my shoes, but I saw that you have gym shoes on as well. So I think we're good. And he's like, I only ever wear gym shoes. That's the last thing I ever said to him. Like, this is like a normal, normal thing before the cameras go on. Then he freaked the hell out on me. And as he was walking out of the building that day, I remember yelling down, this is not going to look good for you, man. And he turned around and then he walked out of the doors. All of this happened. This was the exact series of events. All of these hits are online. Like you can see my CNN hits with him each week of the war progressing and you can see him getting increasingly frustrated with his lack of answers. So just to wrap all this up, maybe don't back yourself into an indefensible corner by taking positions that are dog shit, that are terrible. It's emasculating. It is bad for America. It's bad for the political environment. And if you truly loved America, like you claim you do, Scott Jennings, you would call out this failing war and the debt we're getting into and the cost of this war and the lives and the fact that we're being humiliated every single day. That's what I would say. Since then, have you been on with him again? No, no, I haven't. And honestly, I love that show so much. So I respect all of the producers. I respect everybody there. But I'd have to imagine Scott Jennings probably had a pretty fiery conversation where he was like, don't put me on with that fucking kid again or something like that. Like he views me as a little kid, honestly. So you, well, it's interesting that he would view you as a little kid, but then when he walks in the room, he can't greet you as an adult. And he acts like a little kid and turns out and also says, get your fucking hand out of my face. Obviously you trigger him in a major way. Home of the save. Open soon. Limited time offer. New members only. BJ's, home of the save. So you, you've been back on the show. Oh yeah. You're on the show frequently, but never with Scott Jennings. No, no. It'll be like, you know, me and then him on the next night. And I have to assume, maybe this is my imagination running wild. I think you're right. I have to assume he told somebody at the show, do not have me on with that fucking kid again, that fucking guy again. Like I have to assume that's what happened. I think you're, I think you're a hundred percent right. Because if I'm the producer at CNN, I'm going to say, get Mochler and Jennings back in, seated right next to each other. Let's go round two. I can't lie. That would really piss me off. I don't know if I could keep my composure. I mean, obviously I could. You could. But if I were sitting across from him and he were still smugly telling lies about the Iran war, 120 days after that, I think I would actually lose my shit. I'd be like, are you joking? We are 205 days into this war and you told me 10 days in that it would only last one month. Like it's a, it's a con. It's a joke to these people. It's a game. While our country's at war with Iran. And he's given you such good material. It's such a shame you're not on there because you could be like, oh yeah, Scott, like the time you had the 20 minute phone conversation with a corpse. You know, like you could really, I mean, now he's probably really trying to protect himself on that show because he has so much exposure right now. He's such a fraud, such a liar, such a fluffer. But not only do you do a great public service by exposing, bashing and triggering Lady Jennings, you also go on Jubilee and debate people like this MAGA cultist. Play the clip. Women are safer with the average illegal immigrant than with Donald Trump. What about the fact that four 15 year old girls said that Donald Trump walked in in their dressing room when they were part of his beauty pageant? I mean, whether or not that's true, I want to get to a larger point here. Okay, so if that is true. And you condemn it. If that is true, then. Donald Trump said it himself. He said it. And then four women corroborated. And we have to understand even more. I don't know the context. Of that. So if that is true. Would any context make that okay? Okay, all right. All right, unpack that for us. I was about to ask the same question again. What context would make that possibly okay? This is the problem with modern day politics. When John Ossoff made some innocuous, innocent comment about Trump traveling with Natalie Harp, conservatives were pissing and crying and shitting themselves. Trigger city. Scott Jennings was almost in tears on air. He couldn't believe that politics had devolved to this level where we're treating women like this. He was almost crying yet Donald Trump for the past two decades, especially throughout a lot of my formative years. Imagine I'm 14 years old and I hear the access Hollywood tapes come out and he's saying he can grab women. That was disgusting to me throughout all of my formative years. The president is yelling at female reporters saying quiet, Peggy saying, why don't you smile more? Which as I said earlier, that's like sexism 101. That's like sixties, madmen type sexism. He'll pointed them and say, you know, you're a terrible, despicable human being, but even before. All of that, when he was palling around with Epstein, Trump was openly bragging about how he bought a beauty pageant because he could just walk backstage. He doesn't understand power dynamics, or if he does, he doesn't care about power dynamics. He likes to abuse them. So the point that I was trying to drive home there is this man is just an awful human being. He's like a pig who is toxic and is dragging us all down to new lows and he disrespects women constantly. Now, obviously the dude I was sitting across from seemed a little bit visibly nervous. He's a young guy. I benefit from having more on-camera experience during these things, so I can just continue to go. But none of these people will actually sit there and just try to reckon with what they're engaging in, who they're voting for, a man who would speak horribly about their own mother if he could, a man who has demeaned every woman in his peripheral vision for the past 20 years. That's the point I was trying to drive home. And I think clips like that are important because it's a good mechanism for saying the truth in a short 30-second clip. I think so too. I also think the Donald Trump giving the microphone a blowjob doesn't get enough airtime. So the next time you're debating one of them, if you'll have that on your phone, because autocrats thrive in a culture of toxic masculinity, and that's what they try to promote. And the familiarity with which he approached the microphone and performed a blowjob on it is just. I spoke with Scott Jennings about this on CNN. He got real riled. Yeah. He did that whole, like, where he's looking at the camera. Yeah. But I think that that's something that I want to see a lot of these kids asked about. Like, would you ever, like, pretend like you were giving a blowjob to a microphone? No, dude, that's gay. What if I told you Donald Trump did that? He didn't do that. And then show him the video. They'd be like, we all do this. We've all done some version of this. And then they'd start doing it right then just to, like, bite the bullet. Genuinely, that's what they do. They wore the ear things just to be in solidarity with him. I'm ready for them to start wearing diapers, I think. Yeah. They did wear diapers, like, two years ago at rallies in solidarity. Let me tell you, Trump is the least masculine person I've ever seen. And he's the biggest queen on the planet. The whiniest, like, constantly nitpicky person I've ever met. His Truth Social is like the Mean Girls burn book. Like, it's a constant diary of him going off on AI CEOs, going off on the Kennedy Board Center. This guy is going off on Supreme Court justices that he nominated during his first term. That gave him impunity for his third term. 34 felonies to get him out of jail. He's calling them, like, radical, corrupt people. Like, he is constantly on a narcissistic tantrum. It is insane to me. You know, nothing will ever be enough. That's the point that I, like, I want to make to, like, CNN, MSNOW, Politico. You have sane-washed a lot of what this man has done. And now he has kicked you out of the press. But was it worth it? Was it worth it? I mean, the people who have fought and said, no, we're not bending the knee and have gone to court have won. And you just cannot give a bully. An inch. But I want to move on to your, I mean, I think, great public service that you're providing everybody. This is you debating Charlie Kirk's producer in a debate on News Nation, which the bravery to go on News Nation. I love that. This was at the Kennedy Center, too. Ooh, okay. Play the clip. Just think about this. We saw these Nazi group chats, which I'm sure you condemn, right? This Nazi group chat. Well, we can talk about it. Do you condemn it? I want to talk about it. Wait, so when they said gas chambers. I'm not going to do your disavowal. When they said gas chambers, you won't. So you're like J.D. Vance. You just won't condemn this? Well, I actually had J.D. on the show today. We had a whole conversation. You guys can all condemn this, right? Oh, yes. Thank you. Hold on. All right. Hold on. Chris then condemns it and says, it's easy to condemn, but that guy right there wouldn't condemn it. And that's Charlie Kirk's producer? Right-hand man, Andrew Colvette. Now, it goes to show, I'm not talking about anybody on that stage, but the Republican Party does have a Nazi problem right now. A hundred percent. A huge white supremacist Nazi problem, and it is institutional. It is incentivized. By the current party infrastructure. We saw this dipshit out of Texas, Beau French. Did you see this guy who tweeted out about the University of Texas game? And I believe there were a bunch of second-generation Indians in this photo, just students. Of course. Who are enjoying the game. And he posted and says, our country is being taken over or being poisoned or whatever. This is a type of white supremacy that is incentivized in the party. We have that young Republican group chat that leaked about a year ago, where all the young Republicans were talking about gas chambers. And nooses and Hitler. J.D. Vance didn't condemn that. We have Paul Ingrassia, who said he has a Nazi streak. And he's still in the administration. J.D. Vance won't condemn that. So it's like, it's incentivized in the Republican Party to be pushing this vile bullshit. And when it comes to Beau French, when you're going to post an image of a bunch of young dudes enjoying themselves, that is what assimilation is. Republicans will constantly say they want immigrants to assimilate, or they want second-generation immigrants to assimilate. When you have a bunch of young Indian students who have football paints on their face. Saying hook them. Saying hook them. And they're clearly like half drunk, loving the game. I'm sorry, but that is assimilation into America. That is what Republicans claim should happen. So this type of bigotry that you see on stage there, that they can't even condemn, they can't condemn a Nazi group chat. This is why you see a lot of young men on the right so lost. And you know what's so devastating about that entire thing? I think about this all the time. I think about what MAGA does. I think I'm just nothing like them. Because J.D. Vance has an Indian wife and mixed race kids. And he cannot condemn a racist group chat. And he actively wakes up in the morning and goes and makes this country less safe for his wife and their four children. And as a mother, I didn't know that was biologically possible, that you would actively. Actively try to make the world less safe for your wife and kids. Because if I had a kid that was half mixed race, I would know I love this kid more than anything on the planet. But I've got to quadruple love this kid because the world's going to be mean to him. I tell my audience this all the time. What separates us, everything that they hate, I love and I fight for. I fight for multiculturalism. I fight for the LGBTQ plus community. I fight for the young queer kids in rural Oklahoma where I'm from, whose parents are bullies and their churches are bullies and their government is a bully. And they don't. They're the bullies. If you think about it, we fight for even more. We fight for the freedom of press they claim to care about. We fight for the free and fair elections they claim to care about. We fight for the America that they claim to uphold, but that we actually want to achieve. We fight for them to have health care. We do. We do. We don't want to own them. We want them to have health care and not die of cancer in the richest country in the world. All right. Lastly, you invite MAGA supporters onto your show. Again, FIFA Peace Prize. I mean, hello, FIFA board. Next Peace Prize winner. I'll be the second person to get it, I think. I think, yeah. Right after Trump. Right after Trump. What a great honor. Actually, I think you need a, well, you know what, Kylie, we need to start an I've Had It Profiling Courage Award. And I want the first recipient to be Adam Mockler. Thank you. And we can stage a whole, like, we can get a bunch of influences in here and we'll do a Trump-style trophy presentation. The I've Had It Peace Prize? Let's go. I love it. I'm the first one to put it around my neck. Great. Just a medal. Oh, I love it. Okay. All right. You invite MAGA supporters onto your show. And here's one of those exchanges. Play the clip. This is what you're looking at in terms of 2028 candidates. So say, for example, you have J.D. Vance, Marco Rubio, and Tucker Carlson on a debate stage. Which one are you gravitating towards? If I'm being honest, I'm definitely going with Tucker Carlson. Why? Why Tucker over them? I'm going to go with Tucker Carlson because he's outspoken, for one. I don't necessarily feel like he's going to shield for Israel. I mean, me personally, I don't necessarily think that he's, like, politically experienced or anything like that, like, as much as J.D. Vance and Marco Rubio. But my thing is, he's something new because Trump was new and everybody loved it. So my thing is, I just think it's time to put somebody in that just actually wants to focus on America. This is interesting. This answer is really interesting because it's, they're still voting, wanting to vote against the status quo, which is what the Trump thing was. And I'm terrified of the Tucker Carlson thing because he is positioning himself and he jumped off the Trump train first. He still. He frequently says F-A-G-G-O-T on his podcast all the time. But in 30 seconds, I'll see a clip of him saying something and I'm like, what the fuck is happening that I agree with what he just said in those 30 seconds? And I think it was, I can't remember who it was that was the guest on the podcast. Oh, it was Prem Thakur. He said, it's not that you agree with him. He agrees with us. Yeah, yeah, of course. And so that was good. But I'm really worried about the Tucker Carlson's because they're going to provide economic populism with elections. A little bit of the racism, too. And I'm worried about that. Exactly. So the Tucker stuff is really insidious because it's done in kind of a savvy way. Totally. See, he's being rather savvy with the positions that he's taking. And you shouldn't believe a second of him. I know that you don't, but you shouldn't believe anything he says. Remember back in 2020 when Fox News and Dominion went to court around 2021? Oh, yeah. And they went to discovery and we found out that Tucker Carlson would go on TV and say that the election was stolen and that Trump had it rigged against him. And then he would be. And then he would be texting behind the scenes about how he's sick of Trump and he doesn't believe any of Sidney Powell's claims. This guy is an insidious liar who only wants to gain power. The problem is it's working. A lot of young men are disaffected. We feel disenfranchised. Young people overall. But just speaking from the point of view of a young man, a lot of people feel like the systems haven't been working for us. Either student debt is just completely effing us or medical debt or there's no way to get housing or gain capital. I mean, if you look at the average. I guess not average. There's the median homebuyer age. homebuyer. It went from 29 years old to 42 years old over the past few decades. So young people are already feeling disaffected. And we see a government that is sending endless money over to Israel and is just messing everything up, not only internationally, but domestically. And young people want change. Tucker Carlson is right now pivoting and acting like he is that change agent, despite being the person who helped MAGA in the first place. And a lot of young people like Vashon, the guy I was debating there, genuinely think that Tucker Carlson is on their side. And I think it goes to show the importance of positive messaging for young people, for young men in particular. If on the left, we cede all this ground and say that young men don't need to be messaged to, then all that's going to leave is Andrew Tate, Tristan Tate, Clavicular, and Tucker Carlson to message to young men. We need positive role models on the left who can have these affirmative messages and not leave them to be messaged to. It's kind of a vacuum where young men are then confused on which side to go to. So it's really important for there to be positive role models and positive messaging on our side so it's not just Tucker. Let me ask you this. This is something I think is really interesting because MAGA kind of offers this, we're tough. And I think inherently, probably from a Darwinian standpoint, men want to feel tough. They're the hunters. And so I think that's probably in the DNA of a man. And how much of do you think the strategy should be, not just to talk to young men, but to use language like, "You think Tucker's for you? Tucker Carlson's a pussy. He wouldn't stand up to Trump. And he, Trump, this guy is a pussy who says that he was attacked by demons in his sleep." I think it has to be a kind of tough guy, empathetic language, because sometimes I think the too super woke is so annoying in general, even though I think we need to bring woke back and that's another podcast for another day, but not the micromanaging aspect of it. But I think that men like you in these spaces that are truly masculine, fighting for the marginalized, fighting, if you're in a room, you're like, "That's the person everybody's picking on. I'm going to go defend that person." That's true masculinity. And calling these men stuff like pussies, I think it's super effective. I've got a really good clip for you. Because the one guy that I was debating about the top 2020 election onstage in front of a MAGA audience, I say, "Don't be a pussy. Just answer the question." And the entire crowd lit up and they really liked that moment. I swear to God, it does work. And what you're saying is very, very true. We need to be protecting and standing up for any marginalized community at all times. We should never be punching down, never be punching down. But I do think there is something to be said about the Democratic Party being suffocating over the past decade in the way that they would try to micromanage certain language. I have a friend who I grew up with who is liberal by all means. He's pro-gay marriage. He's very supportive of the trans community. He likes Medicare for all. By all accounts, he is liberal. But he told me the Democratic Party has been suffocating to him. He feels like he just can't be himself at times. People are suffocating. Governor Beshear has a really good speech that he does about this. Governor Beshear basically says, "We need to be using more accessible language." A bunch of people came to him and said he shouldn't refer to people as prisoners ever again. They should be justice-involved and distorted. And he was like, "Guys, we can't be using this inaccessible ass language when we're already losing this battle. So we need to be accessible. We need to be tough. I don't think we should be using slurs or putting anyone down. But saying that somebody's kind of a pussy, I think is very accessible. It's very effective, and it works. So Democrats, don't be finger-waggy when you don't need to be. Don't be suffocating. Because if you suffocate all of the young people out of our side, they're going to get squeezed over to fucking Tucker Carlson. We don't want that to happen. Here's a prime example. Because I call these men pussies all the time on my podcast. Good. And I have really great listeners and really smart listeners. And I welcome this kind of conversation. Some of them say, "Jennifer, I wish you wouldn't call them pussies. Vaginas are beautiful. They give birth. They do all these magical things." And all that's true. And I thought about those comments. But then I also thought, what word can replace pussy when you're talking to a man who is a pussy? That's true. And I couldn't come up with one. And so I think that as we are trying to make everybody better, if somebody's eight out of 10 on your side fighting the good fight, don't micromanage. We need to all join a huge coalition to fight these fascists. And then we can have bigger conversations surrounding these things. But the rebranding and the relabeling of everything all the time, like I thought, there's a very valid discussion in the Defund the Police movement. The brand name Defund the Police is the stupidest fucking name I've ever heard in my entire life. I just cannot believe that nobody talked to anybody off the ledge on naming it that. As someone who has to debate these issues and message around these issues, I'm starting from an inherently disadvantaged point when I'm trying to explain, no, no, no, the name isn't actually what the name means. When it comes to the pussy thing, my mom actually had this talk with me when I called someone online a pussy like a year ago in a debate. She was like, "Listen, just so you know, dick and balls are much more sensitive than a pussy. So why don't you just go up to someone and say, 'Hey, you're a dick and balls.'" And I was like, "Mom, do you want me to get bullied? Do you want me to get fucking bullied? Do you want me to go on the internet and say that somebody's a dick and balls? Just let me call someone a pussy, please." I think it's effective. I know that that's a really little thing, but MAGA people have really little brains and really little egos. And their masculinity is a house of cards. And you call that guy a pussy in a room like that, that's going to sting. There's nothing because they are pussies. Marco Rubio is a pussy. Scott Jennings is a pussy. Absolutely. Smoky-eyed sociopath. Stephen Miller is the biggest pussy in the United States. And that's before we even get to Ted Cruz, who is also a pussy who can't even stand up for his wife. Mitch McConnell is a dying pussy. Am I allowed to say that? Meow, meow. He's like, "Meow." The final gasp. I know. Oh my gosh, Adam, I really enjoy you so much. I think you do such great work. You are one of my favorite follows. I love following you. I love the media ecosystem that we're building, and I just think you're such a shining star in it. So, thank you for all the work you do, and thank you for joining me in studio. This means so much. Thank you. You guys do great work as well, and we'll do it again, Jennifer. All right. Sounds great. Tammy regularly hauls stuff to her kids at college, but she's also the biggest pussy in the country. Home of the Save. Join for just $20 at bjs.com/mesquite and save 10 cents per gallon for six months. Open soon. BJ's. Home of the Save.