Trump For Amnesty

what is up everybody welcome to a brand new episode of part of the problem i am dave smith and if that's true well then he must be robbie the fire bernstein coming to you from a psychedelic purple room on weekend huh rob you turned into a hippie well we did uh we did great shows out in san diego i enjoyed uh porching in a guanga last night so uh they got a nice house i you know sometimes i like to stay by the host if they uh have nice enough accommodations i've gotten a little bit snobby about it over the years dude can i uh listen i'll tell you and you know the first part of this story but this is man i gotta say i've never had first of all great shows this weekend in san diego i love the american comedy company always such a great time out there um dude i i don't know what it is between since midterms you know the night of midterms i was in dc for pierce and i didn't sleep that night and then i got home and i got kind of a little bit of sleep the next day and then i had to get out on a flight out to san diego so i'm in like three cities in three days and i'm tired i slept in and missed radio while we were there which i've never done before i was supposed to do morning radio and i just overslept it so i looked like i felt like an asshole was an asshole um dude rub then this is the next part you don't know i did it again for my flight i overslept and messed my missed my flight home oh my god is it awful dude the worst feeling in the world waking up in a panic realizing you overslept realizing you don't have time to make it you know booking another flight a few hours later having seven whiskeys at the bar you know rob it's the worst all of that has to happen after you miss the flight it's just uh but so um he said i got back today and literally right before we're starting the show i just realized that i i uh i do the show off of my laptop which might be insane i have this big desk that when natalie's here she uses the desktop with all the monitors and stuff but i don't use that i just use my laptop and then i just use my laptop and then i just realized uh that i i left my charger uh and just don't have it and my thing is was at like like five percent so i'm just like oh man i don't know what i'm gonna do like blah and then i just at the last minute figured out that uh but i'm just gonna preface this part by saying i'm not smart you guys know that i'm retarded right like i sound good when i'm talking about politics but at the last minute i figured out that me and my wife both have macbooks and they use the same charger and i could just take the charger from her computer and put it on my computer and charge it you can do that by the way solve the same principle works for phones uh and then everyone i got a show pre uh skank oh sorry you're out in the uh new orleans area mandanville la fun bar show is a good time last year and then uh when i get back i'm doing a show in uh new york city so portstore.com for those links and a couple more dates coming up soon is that at the pub keys spot yeah yeah cool uh cool bar yeah i like those guys that's where i did i've i've recorded a few a few shows there uh like in the upstairs they have the apartment upstairs and then they got the cool bar area downstairs yeah cool little uh cool spot all right well let's let's get into some stuff man because it has been uh a very interesting weekend um i don't i guess let's just start with president trump um president trump did a big interview on 60 minutes uh he's given his thoughts on the midterms it's i don't know it's an interesting weekend interesting an interesting dynamic for sure to sit here and um to watch the bravado of donald trump as he gets kind of painted into a corner is um and this is i i guess this is why i've been saying for a while that i think his approval is going to go down even more like i think this thing ends in the 20s not in the 30s uh because it's almost like donald trump only has one speed and if the speed is promising i'm not sure if it's going to go down even more like i think this thing ends in the 20s not even if the speed is promising i'm not sure if it's going to go down even more like i think this thing ends in ultimate victory and winning that like rob you can just kind of see how much that is at its maximum value campaigning it loses value as you're governing and it goes to zero after you've betrayed through your governing just like what is this anymore like the braggadocious stuff um and the longer you go the more you're up against reality yeah that's exactly right that's exactly right you know man i one of the things that i've been thinking about is i've been thinking about things i got to say um that is is kind of personally eye-opening to me about this this job and it reminds me of i remember this when i proposed to my wife i remember thinking i wasn't that nervous um although i but i really really was but i remember thinking i wasn't that nervous as after i proposed to her and she said yes and we you know had a nice little moment she did say yes by the way that's how it ended uh she then and i remember feeling almost like and there was such a relief that i was like oh i was more nervous like than i realized and it's like i knew she was gonna say yes but it's still like it's the biggest thing you're gonna ask someone so it's like a nerve and i'll tell you man one of the things that's interesting about doing this job is that i'm in this position a lot where like i tell you something's gonna happen and then it happens and i'm still a little bit shocked and and so like i don't know it just kind of separates your bullshit from how you really feel that you know like i'm not gonna say yes but it's still like it's the biggest thing you're gonna ask like i don't know i i i remember rob we looked at the the closing midterm pitch rob as me and you sat there and and watched it was donald trump looking out into his crowd and going yeah prices are up a little bit but we're making so much money can you imagine saying that to someone who is only feeling the prices up part of that but then you're bragging about who was making money rob i don't know it's kind of vague was it trump was it exxon mobil like i don't know but we're making so much money that you don't even got to worry about gas prices that was his pitch to the guy who was desperately worried about gas prices and and but yet still it feels almost a little bit shocking for everyone after it to have an autopsy be like yeah i think that was a part of it yeah i think this i think that might have been what happened but nothing to do with the war that's what i'm hearing from conservative media don't be fooled and don't connect it don't connect the economy to the war either isn't there an interesting split at this point though rob because i gotta say like i think you know from my perspective and i think it's a reasonable one i think people who supported this war people who supported the 12-day war have completely destroyed their credibility like i just don't see especially the ones who pretended to have learned their anti-war lesson and then as soon as it was a republican in office supporting a war guy even though it was so clearly a dumb war you know i i just think they were but what you've seen rob is almost a a split with most of them racing back now to admit that the war was the reason they lost but the few hardcore ones who are still in denial about that i don't know it's it's just shocking quite frankly it's shocking that anyone could pretend the obvious thing especially rob when it's not even just if you look at like the exit polling it's not even just that like oh everyone's upset about high prices and me and you are connecting that very reasonably to the war which led to higher prices it's that everyone is saying we hate high prices because of this stupid war which we also hate and by the way our next issue is corruption you know like that's this was a dude there were demographics who went by double digits for trump in in 24 and went double digits against him this was like a fuck you election people were actually one of the things i i knew the the republicans were going to get creamed i knew the democrats were going to uh take the house i was pretty sure the democrats were going to take the senate um i did not think they would run up the numbers that they did in the senate i didn't think they'd have this comfortable of a of a majority and i i certainly did not think they would like i didn't see like the new hampshire state legislator and the texas state legislator all going blue like that to me was that was a bit more but i saw them being creamed i think what made the difference in where i saw it being to how bad it was is actually that people were closer to my level of anger than i realized you know like i thought it was more like you know i actually am really furious about the war whereas most people are against it um but i think it's actually like oh no people are furious dude they they view this as the clear betrayal that it was all right guys let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show which is the wellness company a lot of people have been concerned that something might be going down even the pentagon is preparing major bases to operate independently for up to 90 days if critical infrastructure fails and a lot of people are concerned about this because when the power goes down and pharmacies close and deliveries stop everyday illnesses and medical emergencies don't that's why the wellness company created their medical emergency kit with eight prescription only medications including ivermectin a generic z-pack amoxicillin doxycycline and more plus a medical guidebook just fill out a quick medical form consult with a licensed provider and once approved it's delivered free to your door you can't predict every emergency but you can prepare visit twc.health slash problem and use the promo code problem to save 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But loosely, it's a story every once a month. It's on a back page. It hasn't been front and center. I've almost been surprised that CNN hasn't been more aggressively going after all of these storylines and dude, look, man, I'm sorry, but that is. I know I've mentioned this a couple of times before, but I know you just said it there. And it's such an important point for people to think about. Ain't that something? CNN, with all of this that they have, with all of this corruption, dude, like, look, just the fact that Donald Trump has, I believe his net worth has gone up by over $2 billion since he's been in. Just that alone. We've never had anything like that before, Rob. A president who's making billions very directly related to the decisions he's making. OK, why isn't CNN doing a Russiagate? Campaign? Like, why aren't they on this every single day, every single day as they have the president himself also telling you about the ballroom in his crypto? Like he's not even like lying about it. Well, because they don't like they did in the first term. They're not. Listen, in the first term, he came in promising to overhaul the neocon foreign policy agenda. And by all accounts, he kind of meant it. And so they decided to ruin him over that. Now he's he's pushing the neocon agenda. They have no need to ruin him. They're quite happy to keep him there until he ruins himself and they can replace him with someone else. But like, that's interesting, man. CNN is not trying to take this guy out when they have the goods and they really could do it. Yep. They've basically just let that storyline simmer on the sidelines. It could have been 24 hours a day on that news channel with if you compare Russiagate to the actual story here. Yep. Yep. But look, I mean. You're going to see it happen now. It's not they don't have any desire or any need to take Trump out right now. But they have no loyalty to him. They'll turn on him whenever is convenient. And certainly if well, they'll do what they are doing already, which you see to some degree liberals doing. Now, liberals are probably other than neoconservatives. Neoliberals are like the most discredited people in politics. Nobody is like, they're running on Medicare for all. Nobody here can say Obamacare was really great. Right. They're running on overhaul. Even the liberals, I'm saying not the leftists are like running on overhauling Obamacare or half of them, maybe half of them are running on Medicare for all. The liberals are incredibly discredited, you know, with Russiagate, with COVID, with all this stuff. But you will see some of them, Rob, almost try to get at the front of the marching band now that Trump's so unpopular and be like, hey, we were the original never Trumpers. You know, we were the original never Trumpers. We were the ones who were against Donald Trump back in 2016. And there's a dynamic of that with the media, too. As Donald Trump gets more and more hated in the country and becomes less and less popular, the media will be the ones like, yeah, that's why we were always adversarial to him. You know, when like the real story is like, no, you lied through your fucking teeth because you were scared of him. OK, let's let's go to let's play the Trump, the Trump clip on the midterms before we get to the immigration stuff. It's the POTUS on midterms. A tweet that I sent you, Natalie. Political analysis of what just happened. Well, number one, I was not on the ballot, but I campaigned hard for some people. And I think if I was on the ballot, it would have been a much different situation because you saw the level of popularity and love. There was love. It was massive rallies. Just pause it already. I mean, dude. There is I know it's just Trump. I know this is the only speed he has and that it's you just if you lose, you say you really won. And if your crowd was smaller, you say it was really bigger. And that's just that's it. If you're number one, you brag about how you're number one. If you fall to number three, you just still say you're number one. You know, I remember that story. This is totally just like an anecdote. I think it was in Woodward's book and Woodward lies. Can't remember the detail on it, but it was someone in there. I can't remember who said, but their thing was that Donald Trump said they had him on a TV interview and they were asked when he kept bragging about how the apprentice was number one in the ratings, like apprentice was number one in the ratings for like four years, but then it had slid down. But he just kept saying it was number one. And then the cameras went off and the guy said to him, he goes, Mr. Trump, you know, you keep saying you're number one in the ratings, but you're not number one anymore. And he said, Donald Trump looked at him and he went, just keep saying it. And they believe you. And look, dude, this is just like one guy said, Trump said that, but don't that sound like exactly what Donald Trump would say? Like, don't you really think when the, there is some moment where he breaks and goes, yeah, I'm saying this is the game. You just say it over and over again. Enough people will believe you anyway. That's his style. But man, when it, there's something about that, that makes for such a thing. This is clearly his failure, but right away he has to go. It's not my failure just to be clear, just so everyone knows this is not my failure. It's my men. Like there, there is something about that. That is the worst quality about Donald Trump. And it's, it's a personal human quality about him that when you take a loss and you're the leader of a team, the first thing you do is go, well, look, I'm the star here. I did everything right. But my men have at it feast on them is what he did after January 6th, dude. All anybody remembers now is that Donald Trump pardoned the J sixers, but when did he pardon the J sixers? He was president on January 6th. He was president on January 7th and January 8th and January 9th and January 10th. He was president. He could have pardoned them. He did not. He did the next day on January 7th, he threw them under the bus and said they should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. And then was out of politics for four years. While many of these people were tortured straight up, no exaggeration, um, kept in solitary confinement for hundreds of days. And then when he came back in, he pardoned them to, you know, boost his own kind of image or whatever at the beginning of his second term. But he doesn't go down with his men. This is what he does. It's, it's, uh, there's no honor in it. Yeah. Trump's not going to be taking accountability. And, uh, apparently there was, uh, some fun activity behind the scenes of gamemanship between, uh, Pete Hegseth and Susie Wiles. And, uh, Wiles is the, uh, fall person at the moment. Yep. Wiles went down. I mean, you knew someone had to go down. I was thinking it would be Hegseth. I was, I was surprised that it was Wiles instead. Um, I do know that they might still take Hegseth's head, but maybe just, well, they might, they might come for it, but you know, I mean, I guess the parallel, I'm certainly not the first to make this comparison, but after the 06, cause we've been comparing them to the 06 midterms, uh, so much was, uh, that's when Bush got rid of Rumsfeld and brought in. So there was like, Hey, I'm going to, you know, like, I'm going to get rid of the project for a new American century, the secretary of defense and give you more of like, uh, uh, an elder statesman kind of guy who, you know, who wasn't like Iglesias, like at least something to throw because the entire country had rejected the war in Iraq. And so, you know what they decided to do, to surge, to escalate the war. Yeah. Um, anyway, uh, so hopefully that part doesn't come true, but I wasn't, I was surprised Susie Wilds was the one who fell now from everything I know from like insiders, she is like the most hated person by every good person in the administration. Every, every person who's a decent person that has been or still is. And there's not that many that are still are, um, that were in the administration or around the administration. She was the one who was like, she's the reason why everything's falling apart. Uh, means was just on Rogan. I was saying, well, how come you guys couldn't get any of this health reform through, like, I know at least one of the stories I haven't listened to the whole thing yet, but at least one of the stories is, well, the guy went over my head to Susie Wiles and that's that. And I'm, uh, you know, she's been his chief of staff this whole time there, all the stuff, you know, that you've heard that, uh, Joe Kent has said about how, you know, essentially they were being boxed out. All the people who were against the war were being boxed out from the president. And that's because of Susie Wilds. That being said, putting, Miller in there just doesn't change anything. Anyway. Um, here, let's, let's go back to the clip. Let's play the last little bit of what Trump says. You had to transfer those voters, however, to candidates that they didn't like, but there's something beyond that. They didn't like the war. They didn't like the fact that gasoline went up because I had it down at a low and there's a great dislike incredibly for Israel. Give me your political. Well, all right. So he does admit that the war prices in Israel seem to have something to do with it. So even, and I got to say, Rob, this is a thing where maybe I'm getting this all right. Look, who am I to ever say that I, you know, on some level know the art of the deal or whatever, better than Donald Trump. I mean, whatever you want to say about the man, he sure ain't good at being president, but man, is he really good at succeeding in life? Um, I just think it's to me, And I think we are watching a man who has completely lost his touch, who's partially touch with his own appeal and just lost touch with reality a little bit. Not like a major split from reality, but like lost touch to like what got him to the dance and what the, you know, like I do think there was still a thing like when he says he's very popular and I'll go give these speeches and get our people out to vote. I think he just doesn't realize how hated he is. Whatever. That being said, I just find it to be so weak, Rob, and pathetic and transparently so. It's not like, look, when he was like bullying Jeb Bush, we all knew he was doing like eighth grade alpha male shit, but it's like effective alpha male shit. Like it doesn't, look man, if you, you know the scene in Louis in the show when those kids surround him and challenge him to a fight and he bitches out in front of the girl and then the girl's just not attracted to him anymore, right? Like there's like real things like that. Like you can, you can, you know, like you could do something that is a really juvenile eighth grade thing to do, but will actually make your wife look at you different or something. You know what I mean? Like what Donald Trump is doing here, he has to admit at the end, like, oh yeah, it was the war and the prices in Israel, but he's going to preface with, I'm still really popular. It wasn't me. It's the candidates who were on the ballot. I got to say, that's like, you look like a bitch, dude. I don't know. Like same third grade level. You fail the alpha test when you do shit like that. Like it would be so much. I just think it would come off better and be more noble to just lead with the things. Well, people were mad about the war and the prices in this, and I don't think they were right. Well, you know, I'll take responsibility for it. Obviously that's not in Donald Trump's like, you know, it's not within the realm of possibilities of how Donald Trump can act, but it's still to me just really comes off weak like this. And then of course, I guess the other big thing there, well, there's the admission, of course, about the war and prices, but it is interesting that the president of the United States of America mentioned hating Israel as being one of the reasons that just seems to me to be noteworthy. I've never seen a president say that before. That's now, I guess, never been the case before. I don't know. What do you think, Rob? Well, I guess it's wild of Trump to say, and I guess it's because it's so apparent he can't not get away with it. But he's also saying it because it's a way to divert some of the blame and pretend like I'm still right. Hey, I did the noble thing. We needed to take out Iran. We needed to back our number one ally. And sadly, the public is seeing through it. That's really what he's saying. But sadly, the public just doesn't see why what I'm doing is so great for them. But it is a Weasley diversion of, you know, it's kind of, I did the right thing by supporting Israel, but the general public has gotten so anti-Israel, for reasons I can't understand, such as doing this exact war that I didn't want in their interest. But, you know, it is a diversion tactic. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is My Patriot Supply, an amazing company. I'm thrilled to have them on board. And they're the company that I turn to for my family's preparedness. So I highly recommend them. Of course, as many of you know, across America, people are waking up to the reality that being prepared isn't optional anymore. And they're taking action. In fact, My Patriot Supply has seen an unprecedented surge in America. Americans coming to them for emergency food, water filtration, backup power, and other preparedness essentials. 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That's preparelikedave.com to get all the things that your family needs to be prepared, have the peace of mind to know that you're going to have food and electricity and everything you need when you need it most. Preparelikedave.com. All right, let's get back into the show. So you do something, man, and people really do treat it this way. We're like, I just, almost no matter what side of the issue you're on, I just don't understand how anyone could even pretend to be in good faith and approach the topic and go, dude, and people like hate Israel, and I can't figure out why. Like, I think you'd be like, okay, no. I mean, look, I get why. No matter where you are on the policy, you'd be like, oh, yeah, there's like two major things. It's a spontaneous moment of anti-Semitism. It was probably from the COVID vaccines. It's one of the symptoms they don't want to tell us about is that it suddenly made people more anti-Semitic because there's nothing else that you could possibly affiliate with. It's very tough with vaccine injury, Rob, to isolate the causal factor, you know? And so, right. Could it be, oh, you're going to sit here? What are you going to be? You're going to be a kook and say it was the genocide and the dragging us into a war? How is the YouTube censor going to treat that one where you're both saying that anti-Semitism is not because of Israel? No, but I'm on the right side of this one. Dude, I mean, it's like the thing about it is, too, of course, is that it's not it's like if you think about, too, right, like the timing of the whole thing, the fact that the Iran war came after the Gaza genocide, like it came after the Gaza genocide. It's like it came after years of the entire like media apparatus that well, it's like the people like losing support for Israel and then the media apparatus being decentralized to the point where a lot of the critics of Israel can really give their point of view and people can hear the other side of the story. And so, OK, in those years, right, like as somebody who was I was in a lot of the big shows and big debates, but it's far from just me. There's like tons of people on huge, huge shows, huge, huge debates that have been happening. And I'm talking. I'm talking about before this this war in Iran. So like from from let's say from from 10, 7, 2023 through, you know, February of this year, having all these big debates and one of the the topics that would always come up were what that like, well, OK, here's what Israel does to the Palestinians. Here's how Israel gets us involved in their conflicts in the region. It was always a conversation over Israel dragging America into. And so it was like the the entire like American population, like their eyes were open to this reality. And then it happened again in front of them. Like it couldn't have almost not that anyone like me would want this to be the case, but it could not have like demonstrated the point better. And so, yeah, you're just caught in a situation where even like Rob, I'm sorry, dude, as I put it on our. Recap episode last week. This is why I say a spell's been broken. We've been through this so many times together, you know, like as we close out another year, it's just this thing where like one week ago. If you said it was all over Israel in the war, it was like people were going to talk to you like you were a conspiracy theorist. Today, the president and vice president both acknowledge it. Like, it's just it's always crazy when these things happen to it. It's like in a matter of hours. The narrative. The narrative goes like to just totally being accepted that like, yes, what we've been saying is the narrative that we will all agree with now, including Donald Trump. Yes, a lot of people, including your voters, including enough to be the difference of you winning a historic election or losing a historic election are against the wars and against Israel. I'll be waiting for the correction, Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro. I'm sure you'll be making it anytime soon. Well, you'll never hear it. Yeah, yeah. But I mean, whatever. It's like it's just good for us to know. And it's I don't know. It's it is something to watch the way these things these things go. All right. There's another clip from Trump that I want to play, but I also just want to talk a little bit of J.D. Vance. Maybe let's do this first. J.D. Vance was Trump was also asked in this interview about the J.D. Vance tweet. And he kind of says, like, he's OK with it. I had heard word on the street was that that was. Not authorized, but he did go out and just post that. Who knows if that's true or not? I got to say this. I've seen some speculation online about what I'm going to do or who I'm going to support or. And I've seen some people saying that they think I'm going to end up supporting J.D. Vance because they think Tucker will end up supporting J.D. Vance. And they think that, you know, they saw me support Donald Trump once before. And then people jumped on one of my comments that I made on the last show, which was that, like, we can't have a Democrat win in twenty eight with the Democratic Congress. Let me say this. I don't I think where my gauge of things are right now, I find it to be I can't even fathom a world in which I support J.D. Vance. I don't I can't fathom a world where Tucker I don't think Tucker will end up supporting J.D. Vance. I think his I think he's like, as we've been saying. For a year and a half, he's like an impossible tightrope. That being said, like, I don't know. For J.D. Vance, if J.D. Vance wants to have a political future, and this is the reason why it's interesting, if he wants to have a political future, he actually has to fight to get this thing ended. And he's got to do it. And he's got to succeed. And it's got to be him. Like, Scott Horton and Daryl Cooper had a great conversation about this on the last episode of Provoked. But he has to, like, actually challenge Donald Trump to a fistfight in the White House. Like, he's got to actually say, look, sir, you have to give me the authority to go and negotiate an end to this, and I'll go and get it done. But I'm the heir apparent to your political rally here. And as we just saw the last night, there is no future in this thing unless we do that. Now, I get what you're saying, Rob. Already, people go, this is ridiculous. Nobody's ever going to do this. J.D. Vance is a pussy. Look, as I said before, the only reason why there's a little bit of an asterisk and there's a reason why this might be kind of an if. Yeah. Is that I think J.D. Vance knows his political future is on the line over this. And that's what motivates, I think, him more than anything else is his desire to be president. The problem with J.D. Vance is that that's what motivates him more than anything else. Anyway, I see this all being very, very far-fetched. I think, like I said, there's no real way here to support anyone in this administration short of J.D. Vance doing something amazing. Like, it would have to be spectacular here, Rob. I don't think J.D. Vance is going to be winning the Republican presidency. And speaking to your challenging Donald Trump or walking away as the guy who got us out of the Iran war, Donald Trump is not a team player for the Republicans. He does not care. He's not going to go. Dude, you just saw it. We just watched it. He's not going to go, oh, OK, one of you guys is going to have to run in the next election. So why don't I set you up for it? That's not happening. The only way that you might get what you're talking about is not a private fight. It would be if J.D. Vance actually did a public fight. He has to threaten a public fight. He has to threaten and be willing. I don't even think the threat will do it. I think he has to go out in public and go, this is why Donald Trump's making this mistake, or we've got to unseat Donald Trump from office. He's messing up here. Donald Trump is bought. He would have to go to that level, and I don't see him making those moves. And of course, Rob, of course, I don't see him making those moves either. But just to be clear, he could. Like, what's interesting about the situation. The situation is that the vice president is elected. The vice president cannot be fired by the president. He has his office guaranteed. Now, he can be completely boxed out of the administration and not allowed to make any decisions. But to be clear, J.D. Vance could go on the Sunday shows every Sunday and blast this war. And I'm just saying, Rob, I agree with you. This still seems like a very, very unlikely scenario. And I would never support J.D. Vance. Anything short of that. And even if he did that, it'd be really tough for me to ever. But because he helped lie us into this war, too. And he knew better. And he was there to be better. That being said, I do think it's going to become more and more apparent, Rob, that that is his only choice if he wants to be president. Like, I think it might come down to he just doesn't run. Like, if he doesn't have the balls to stand up and do that. Because you're just going out there to destroy yourself. And so, you know, I don't know. But look, if I was a betting man, I would bet he's not going to do it. He's going to, you know, he doesn't have the stones. But perhaps, perhaps he realizes. I mean, he certainly realized that he had to get out against this thing. And he must realize right now that he needs this war over. You know, one of the. One of the things we've all been concerned about for four weeks now is what Donald Trump was going to do on the. After the election. And. Man, hopefully you got to think. Look, we're kind of desperate at this point, Rob. Like, you have no other political incentives for Trump. There's no more elections for him. He's already going to be rich for the rest of his life. He's going to die in his bed with his family members around him. And then he's going to burn in hell for eternity. But he's already doing that either way. And I think he knows that. But. J.D. Vance, there's a real political incentive there. Marco Rubio, there's a real political incentive there. There's a real political incentive to like, you can't pretend to be against this. No, but there's an incentive for it to be over. And as forgotten, is it possible for it to be over? You know, like and like, look, there's just no question there's a mandate to end this war. There's a mandate to end this war, unlike any war in my lifetime. And there's been a lot of wars in my lifetime. This is, you know, I guess 06 would be the next best one, man. But this is so much stronger than that, because this war never had popular support. And Iraq did as as as much as that is a stain on America as a nation. That war did have popular support at the beginning. This one never did. Never did. And it wasn't. You know, there just wasn't the same type of manufactured consent for this war that there was for for Iraq. And there wasn't. And there I don't know, there was no there wasn't even an attempt at a justification. It wasn't in the wake of a terrorist attack. It just had an end. So, look, there's a mandate to end this shit now. And anybody who wants a political future doesn't want to be like going right in the face openly of that mandate. Trump, on the other hand, I don't he doesn't care. So anyway, so look, I mean. I'll tell you guys, you know, there's some stuff I'm trying to, you know, talk to people. And work stuff out like, you know, obviously, I'm going to you. You probably know already who the candidates are, but I'm hoping that we get somebody out there who is an alternative to this because we can't we can't lose this country to the Democrats again. But make no mistake about it. Like, I'm. I'm very concerned about what is going to happen going forward. And if there is a Democrat president with the Democrat House and Senate, which they're almost certain. We will be in in twenty eight. And I think it's the undeniable favorite at this point for the Democrats to win. The Republicans are in shambles and and have lost so many of their strongholds. I mean, Rob, if you're like, I don't I don't know. I think it'll take a few weeks here for even people like me and you to really come to terms with just how bad this is, like how big of a fuck up it is that the Trump coalition destroyed itself and that Texas is a blue state. The New Hampshire. Is a blue state that, dude, you want to look at the swing states that are in play for the presidential election? Rob, Texas is in play. You understand what a different presidential map we're looking at in twenty twenty eight? Do you know how much different it is when Texas is in play? Do you know how many swing states Democrats can lose if they fucking pick up Texas? Like we're in a whole new map where this is really bad. And I got to say, it's like you got to keep your eye on the ball here. The bright, shiny object is. Is the El Saeed's and the Mamdani's, you know, and I'm probably maybe guilty of talking about them, you know, more than, say, the Democratic establishment. But just because, like, the Democratic establishment has been completely humiliated and defeated. And what can you even say? Everyone hates Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries. So what's the you know? But the point is, Rob, who actually is in control right now is Chuck Schumer and Hakeem Jeffries. Right. Like the Democratic establishment is the ones who came back into power. They will the one. They will be the ones who are in power in twenty eight. And they will be running the entire show if they have the presidency as well. It won't be El Saeed's America. It will be, you know, city groups, America. And so, again, just to be clear, Rob, these motherfuckers tried to institute a board of truth, you know, at the Department of Homeland Security last time. Like they're going to come for censorship. Shows like this won't survive an all Democratic rule, or at least there's a. I don't want to be one of these people just fearmongering, but like, yeah, we all have to be very, very concerned about this. We're now thanks to Trump and thanks to all of the Trump sycophants who defended and supported and gave cover to this idiotic, catastrophic war. We are now in a desperate need for a Tucker Carlson or a Thomas Massey type candidate to come in and try to put that coalition back together. It's the only hope. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today. Show, which is Prolon by El Nutra. Here's something most weight loss conversations miss. If you've started losing muscle alongside fat, whether you're on a GLP one or past 40, just getting smaller isn't the goal. Keeping muscle and reducing visceral fat is Prolon five day is clinically shown to support fat focused weight loss while protecting lean muscle and reducing biological age. It was developed at USC's Longevity Institute with 47 clinical trials. 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Whether it was the message or the record, the Republican collapse will give Democrats in Congress new powers over budgets, hearings, and subpoenas. You came out after the midterms. You congratulated the Democrats. You said that you were open to working with them. True. What is one thing you would like to work with a Democratic majority? I'd love to do something on immigration. What? Because, well, so. Do you think immigration hurt you in the midterms? Do you think the crackdown? I think it both helped and hurt. I think I got an A plus for closing up the border. I get very high marks for getting the bad ones out. But I get hurt because we also took people that had good jobs that created one violation or breaking of the law, and that was that they came into the country illegally. Now, there is a large part of the country that think that they should be put out. Yeah. Go ahead. I'm not buying it. First and foremost, I don't think that immigration was the major election decider issue here. I think if anything, he lost Republicans who were disappointed that it wasn't more aggressive. Yeah. And in terms of outrage in this country over, listen, I can agree with that outrage. And I'm not saying that people that have been in the country for 20 years and are working jobs and employers need them should be first on the list to be kicked out or even be kicked out. But if there was a, people who were upset about, um, deportations, it was because Donald Trump decided to do an overhanded show and got people killed. And he put people, agents in mass. He did something that just didn't need to be done to have the bravado of I'm Trump and you guys are gonna take it. And that failed unbelievably. For no upside. For no upside. And if anything, it is what forced him to kind of abandon the deportation policy. But the idea that, uh, there's been, uh, an incredible amount of people in this country for 20 years that employers had to keep, they were deported over Trump. And there was such a high level of that, that that was the biggest issue of this election or something that we've been discussing. That's just not true. That hasn't been on the news. Have you seen a single report over, uh, you know, the, the restaurant that goes, I just lost my 20 year employees. I haven't seen one. Donald Trump is literally, he walked away from mass deportations a year over a year ago. It, they haven't been happening. The Minnesota stuff was a disaster. It was easy to see at the time. I mean, I know people get so emotional about this, but it was like, guys, if you're for mass deportations, this is the biggest disaster for you. This means it's over. And if you didn't, if you needed that to be solidified, here you go. I mean, what's truly remarkable here about this to me is that Donald Trump is not asked a question about immigration. Pull this back to the beginning. I want you to, I wanna focus on the fact that Donald Trump is not asked a question about immigration. Let's let's play this clip again. From the beginning message, we couldn't get the word across 30th, whether it was the message or the record, the Republican collapse will give Democrats in Congress, new powers over budgets, hearings, and subpoenas. You came out after the midterms, you congratulated the Democrats. True. What? Because let's pause it here for a second. I just, I really just wanna make, it's Donald Trump offers immigration. It's it's as bold. It's as wide as what would you like to work with the Democrats on? He doesn't go with trade or something to bring prices down. He doesn't go with, uh, uh, criminal justice reform that he's always had somewhat of an affinity for that. Some Democrats like to, is it go? There's like lots of, he goes with let's work on amnesty. I mean, he doesn't use the word amnesty, but listen to everything he's saying here. Let's work with the Democrats and let's work so that people aren't being deported. People who lived here a long time, aren't being deported. Now, listen, man, you're just what you're watching here. Okay. Objectively. This is why I find this to be a big deal. You're watching Donald Trump here in the wake of getting slammed, walking away from his central organizing, political purpose, reason for being his policy from the very beginning, was all about immigration. And now this is the first thing he's saying, like, this is his message that the message is that Americans didn't want people deported or Americans don't write, didn't reject Biden's like immigration policy or something like that. Listen, let's just like, listen one more time here. Let's go back to the clip and listen to the rest of what he says. What? Because, well, so do you think immigration hurt you in the midterm? Uh, I think the crackdown, I think it both helped and hurt. I get very high marks for getting the bad ones out, but I get hurt because we also took people that had good jobs that created one violation or breaking of the law. And that was that they came into the country illegally. And there's a large part of the country that think that. They should be allowed to stay. If they're good people working in a landscaping company or working in a hotel or doing something right. And in some cases paying taxes. And there's a large group of people think that they should be allowed to stay. So you think your deportation policy went too far. It was too tough. I think it might be too tough. Just to be clear here. Let's just pause it. Pause it for a second. Donald Trump is saying is coming out and repudiating the mass deportation that he didn't do. He's saying it was so wrong that we went after all the people in hospitality and farming, but you didn't. And you said you weren't going to do it specifically because they were in those industries because big business doesn't, they actually kind of like the cheap labor being around. So like he's literally saying here, let's work with the Democrats to find a deal where they can stay. This is amnesty. This is a call for amnesty. And for him to think, and this is why I said, dude, I mark my words, Donald Trump's going to end up in the 20s in his approval rating. This is going to, he's now going to walk away from the thing that brought him to the dance to begin with. This was his issue. Let's look at the way he goes on to describe this. Let's keep playing. What does the deal look like with the Democrats? Ultimately that hurt me. Well, the deal would be, we would work something out and I think it's something, I think that's something that's actually doable. Doable to create some kind of, some kind of legal status for the landscapers. Yeah. When you go into a hotel and you have a woman that's worked there as a, you know, as a maid, as a cleaner, as a, this, as a, that, as a waitress, a lot of good things, great job. And all of a sudden just pause it for a second. I'm sorry. This is, it took him so long to find a Hispanic job that wasn't made. He said a maid, a cleaner that he like yada yada before he finally came to waitress. Like, oh yeah, that's a, Jesus Christ. What else can Latinos do? Uh, I'm sorry. That's all I had to say there. We keep playing. Get out of the country. It's tough. It's a tough thing, but there's a group of people that I would say on the sort of pretty far, right. That would like everybody taken out. Do any of those people work in your administration? Dude, first of all, get back to the administration point here, Rob, he said there, you didn't miss hear that. There's a group of people on the very far, right. Who would like all of the illegals to be deported. Motherfucker, you ran for president on that three times, three times you ran for president on literally the line, the signs at his rallies read deport them all three words, Rob really hard to misconstrue Donald Trump is now after getting a shellacking, he's going to blame everyone. but he's so popular, if he was on the ballot, it's not really a loss for him. And now he's going to cast his own position as like some far right. Yeah, there's some far right people who don't think tens of millions of people should be allowed to illegally break into their country and then stay there. I don't know. I thought this was this was truly remarkable. All right, guys, let's take a moment and thank our sponsor for today's show, which is Cowboy Colostrum. Guys, if you actually want to feel confident, less bloated and energized, not just look like it on the outside, it starts with your gut. 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This is this is the deal he's going to cut with the Democrats for more Iran war. The Democrats are going to be like, all right, listen, we talk a lot of shit, but we're not actually here to oppose the the deep state, the warfare apparatus or the Israel lobby. So you you give us a nice deal for for immigration for us to go. Back to our base with and we'll let you skirt on this war, man. And listen, man, I'm listening. And on that note, this is talk about a blunder by Trump, because there are areas in which the Democrats can overstep and really lose the general public. One is obviously the woke topics, but the other one's immigration. If they go too far on using this mandate to not get us out of this war and not to go after Trump for his corruption and decide to make their signature. Issue to make life more easier for the illegal immigrants within this country or to figure out how to get more people into the country, there will be outrage against the Democrats once again. And so for Donald Trump to come to the table with any sort of I want to work with the Democrats on specifically making he's supposed to be America first. Anything that's not America first, even if it is the right move, if you are going to prioritize the illegal immigrants within our country over the American people. And the prices of the American people and the wars that we don't want to be in, you are just going to lose more support and make it more difficult for the Republican Party. Look, man. As I as I gave him credit for on our last show, and I'll do it again. Cenk Uygur is absolutely spot on when he said and it meant a lot more coming from him than it would coming from me, although because it's so self-serving for me to say it. But the mandate here was not socialism. The mandate here was not woke ism. The mandate here was defunding this. War and defunding Israel. Clearly, clearly. Rob, down to and I don't know if you paid much attention to this, but the the political ads that the Democrats were running were like all America first ads. This wasn't they did not run like they did in 2018, where they ran on like women's rights are under attack or kids in cages or, you know, whatever he's working with. He's a Russian agent, you know, like whatever it is they were running. And in 2018, that's not what they ran on in in 2026. In 2026, they ran on America first. That's why I'm saying this coalition is right here to be picked up again. They ran on what literally El-Sayed goes. Why are we sending our money over there when we have problems over here? That's Trumpian that, you know, now don't get me wrong. They have leftist policies also attached to that. But like there. Yes, it's it's clear as day. That this like, like this is the most clear election I've ever seen. It's like, what was this about? It was about high prices about the war was about corruption was about betrayal. That's like what the whole thing was about. So obviously, if you go, well, what are you going to work with them? The thing would be to wrap up the war to change our relationship with Israel or something like that. No, instead, Donald Trump's going to try to throw in this. And I got to say, Rob, there is something to your speculation there because that would hand Democrats something that they could take to a left wing base and go, hey, look, you know, you guys were right. You guys were concerned about the, you know, humanitarian conditions of what undocumented workers or whatever they call them. So, OK, but man, in that scenario, and this does seem to be a way that politics seems to work out in America, who gets totally screwed over there? The non-interventionist right. You know, the people who just didn't want this war and didn't want this insane immigration policy, which, by the way, represents the majority of the people in this country. All right, let's go back to Trump here. Now, he's asked if there are some people in his administration who have these far right views that he ran three times on. Pretty far right. That would like everybody taken. Do some of the group of people do any of those people work in your administration? Are they in the building with us right now? No, no. Well, there are a lot of those people. Then there's also people that are more modified on that. In other words, get the killers out, get all the rough ones out, get the drug dealers out. But let the people that are. They're here and in some cases here for 10 and 15 years. I just I love the way the immigration debate is phrased. It's really like the Israel debate. Like, doesn't Israel have a right to defend itself? Like, oh, yeah, that's a fair starting point. Dude, where they literally rub the way even Trump lays it out. And just think about this for a second. So you have the far right and then the moderate. Presumably there's something on the left also. Right. So you have the far right. The position. The position on the far right is that our laws should be enforced. That's the position. This radical right wing position is that you shouldn't be allowed to illegally come to the country. That's why it's illegal. That's the that's the right wing position. Then there's a moderate position. That's like if you come to the country illegally, you should be allowed to come to the country. But I guess if you're a murderer, if you come to the country illegally and you murder someone here, we reserve the right to deport you. That's a moderate. And then presumably to the left of that would be keep the murderers. Can you just already see where the framing of this debate is so insane? That's so insane. I'm sorry. Any normal person can reshuffle this in their head and go what you're calling far right is what's supposed to be just moderate. That's supposed to just be the normal default position. And, and the idea that anyone wants the murderers in the country should just not even be on the table. It's a moderate position to go we want to get the murderers. Who opposes that? And then presumably to the left of that would be keep the murderers in the country should just not even be on the table. Who opposes that? Anyway. Any thoughts here, Rob? Or you want to jump back in? Let's jump back in. All right. Here, let's play the end of this. Bill for them. You think the Democratic Party right now has people in it who would be interested in this kind of deal? I think so, yeah. People have already called me. I think so, yeah. So I'll say I saw James Tallarico, the new Democratic senator from Texas. I saw him on Fox News. And he said immigration was one of the things he wanted to work with you on. call him talafrico yeah i did well looks like we're gonna get an amnesty deal cut with trump and talafrico um uh yeah i don't know i think this is you know it is remarkable because donald Trump has, in a lot of ways, he's, you know, he's shifted his base. Obviously, he's really shrunken his base. But the this is really, to me, spitting in the face of those guys, you know, to cast the not again, it's not even debatable. There is no debate over what the central issue of Donald Trump's three presidential campaigns were that like, you could, there's a few issues that you could put up at the top but if you had to pick one everyone has to say immigration build the wall build the wall deport them all this is what the trump campaign now he's this new uh radical democratic congress has come in and his first thing is saying i'm going to be doing an amnesty bill with them and casting what he ran on as his central campaign issue three times as some fringe far right uh uh view by the way rob when it's an interesting question that uh 60 minutes guy asks here about are there any people on your staff because of course he just made stephen miller his chief of staff He just made the guy who's been on record for deport them all for at least 15 years. He's running his his presidency. So, like, it's just so utterly bizarre. And again, you know, I do. I wonder, Rob, I wonder if maybe you're really on to something there where the thing is going to be here. I'll throw you some wins here. I'll throw you some left wing bones if you just let me keep fighting my war. We will say we will say, I mean, the one thing I as to bring back to what we were saying earlier in the show that we have going for us here is that they've got to know, man, this thing at this point, the war is an albatross around their necks politically. How much does Donald Trump care about that? I'm sniffing a deal here. That's what I'm sniffing. Yeah. And look, I mean, let's not, you know, there's I really do think particularly. Look, the Democrats are not going to be able to open the border under Donald Trump unless he wants to, which I don't think it's easier or signaling again. Hey, you can stay will lead to the next border problem. It will. There will undoubtedly be like a border crisis under the next Democratic president. It's, you know, and I think that as we've seen with Trump, right, even and I mean, whatever, this is the unfortunate reality of the way. The system works. But even when you have your your mandate, you know, like what when could there have been more of a mandate to crack down on immigration than after twenty twenty four? Even when you have this mandate, big business loves the cheap labor. The Democrats love the voting bloc coming in. You have such big forces that are for all of this shit that. Yeah, I do think they would probably race to try to flood. The. Country with another ten, twenty million people. If the Democrats win the presidency again and you do that, I don't know that we really have a country coming out of that. Certainly not anything that we think of as the United States of America. And yeah, that's a big concern. That's going to be I think I would I would say that's going to be the big concern. That's got to be the biggest concern for the entire right half of America right now. Right. Is that it's like, hey, the Americans really rejected this. Insane immigration policy that's led to massive demographic changes in our country, massive cultural upheaval and the worst the worst kind of like political, tribal, racial infightings in my lifetime by far. You know, I'm going to be forty five pretty soon. Race relations have never been this bad in the country as they are right now in my life. Not even close. Political tensions have never been higher. You know, all of these things are really not good. But I would say the biggest concern. Right now, for like the entire right half of America, as the Democrats come back into power, is like, you know, they're going to radically alter this country through demographic change even more. And like in that moment, Trump goes, why don't we work out an amnesty deal? That's what this guy is. That's what this guy is signaling for us. He is really rough. He is really going to screw us on the way out as much as he possibly can. Huh? It does feel that way. Yeah, sure. It does. All right. Well, that's our show for today. A lot of fun. Stuff to talk about this week. A lot of changing dynamics. Rob, remind him again. You got shows coming up. Yeah. If you never have, check out the Run Your Mouth podcast. We're cooking along. And then you can also go to PortStore.com. I got a show in Manonville, Louisiana, which is about 45 minutes outside of New Orleans. Maybe even less, like a half hour. And then New York City. And then a couple more dates coming up after that. Hell yeah. And we'll be at the festival this week, Skankfest. So, yeah, come on out. Hope to see some of you guys there. All right. Catch you next time. Peace.