Trump Declares ANNEXATION Of Hormuz, Media Says WW3 IS HERE w/ Mark Lucas

Donald Trump today announced that the U.S. has annexed the Strait of Hormuz in a post on Truth Social, which I'm sure the United States, like most people are going to assume, is just a joke. He posted this image where it's a big circle over the Strait of Hormuz. It has new US territory, but he also told a gathering of supporters that he was planning on annexing the Strait of Hormuz as a US territory once we conquered the area. I'm sure the rest of the world doesn't take the joke lightly when the President of the United States says we're going to take this strait and control it. I got to wonder, is the real goal here just to create a permanent, toll way controlled by the United States so that our enemies, that the bricks nations won't be able to get energy? Oh, we're going to talk about that. Plus, we got the Florida election today. So that's a pretty dang interesting. We got a bunch of frat boys who were doing a, they were running a coquering, which is pretty dang crazy. 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Happy to be here. It's some, some, some since-lating races. We have uh, Dan Bulls and, it's actually doing kind of good. I just like to try my results. It's done way better than I expected. What is it? It's 20%. Around 20%. Wow. Yeah. But I have a friend that's buddies with him and I was like, dude, I'll be amazed if he gets over. He gets over some digits. Isn't it, isn't it kind of weird that like that district is the hyper polarized Zajouz district, you know what I mean? Well, it's like the third most Jewish district in the country. But I'm just saying like, Randy Fine could not be more pro the Jews and a Jew himself. Yeah. Bill Zahin could not be more anti the Jews. He literally said we should invade Israel. Like he's like, I'll join him. Well, that's like one of his more tamers. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Wow. He's not a fan of the Israelis or the Jews period. Well. Damn. I think he's one of the first to reverse in Jared. He really didn't like Jews and then he's like, wait, there's a country full of them. Holy cow. Well, did we get through it? Are we ready for the news? Yeah. Let's go to it. All right. Here we go. We got this from Trump, uh, truth social, new U.S. territory, straight-of-war moose. And then someone posted this, uh, giant statue of Trump as the classes of Rhodes. You think Ian is, is approving of this, this, this measure? Taking the straight-of-war moose? Yeah. Yes. Ian, Ian is like, his, his politics are indescribable. He's like, we should, we should make Palestine the 40, 50, 50, 51 state. It's like, make Palestine. That is, that is the furthest right position there could possibly be on the issue. Like conquering Gaza. It's like he saw a bill crystal panel like seven years ago and it still has that idea. And it's like trying to like apply it to like current events, but doesn't quite have a flush. He wants to take Gaza. He wants to make the straight-of-war moose of the U.S. territory. And then he wants to intern all the chances. Neo co-servitism from first principles. We also have this live update. Trump says no talks are taking places to run accuses use of squeezing Iran for concessions. Look, I think most people obviously in the United States are going to see this and think it's a joke. Some news outlets are reporting it as Trump is joking or whatever. But I mean, how do you think Oman and the Emirates feel when Trump is like, it's ours. We're taking it. Considering, you know, it's really funny as talking to my army friends. They're like, I don't know how many, I'm over the whole war thing because it's not, there's nothing developing. There's no, it's not a developing war. It is just the same thing every single day. Trump's declared victory several times. It's not changing and people are just burned out on it. So we see this, you know, it seems like the play may be to permanently control the straight-of-war moose. Yeah, I feel like whenever it comes to what Iran is saying or what Donald Trump is saying, this is the first negotiation where I'm like, they're both definitely full of shit. Like, there's no truth to anything either of them are saying. But, you know, I don't see why Iran is going to, you know, make any kind of concessions right now. I mean, there, the U.S. doesn't want to continue like a significant bombing. We haven't been, if I understand correctly, there haven't been a lot of sorties going over Iran and dropping bombs, so that's not really applying pressure and Donald Trump. I mean, and Iran has no reason to give any concessions, you know? Yeah. You know, as a veteran, I served in Afghanistan in 2010 and one of the biggest reasons I support President Trump in 2016 was he famously said that Iraq was a big fat mistake. And now we're in this war with Iran, but you see President Trump, he's been pretty disciplined. He wanted to have a peaceful resolution and Iran just wouldn't play ball. I remember after a Maduro got snatched, a lot of us were like, okay, Iran is going to come to the table and they didn't. They doubled down and now, you know, a lot of us are like, okay, there's, there's a mid-term on the calendar, right? And the Iranians know that and the Persians are very good negotiators. If you look at how we execute this war, the United States military is very good at killing people and breaking things, right? But after the shock and awe of Iraq, after Afghanistan, which I deployed in 2010, that was nine years after 9/11. We were surging forces and if you're surging nine years after 9/11, you're probably losing the war. There's no mission. You know, I got there. I'm like, I'm looking, we want to win, right? I mean, we had victory day and all that stuff. Nobody was talking about winning. So President Trump came in. I thought he was very disciplined by saying we've got tight military objectives. But we all knew destroying the Navy, destroying the Air Force and degrading or destroying their nuclear program was going to be easy in the short term. But there was no negotiations that we're seeing right now. Like what you're saying to him, people are just kind of getting tired of it. It's the same old thing. Like we won, now we're going back and ultimately Trump holds all the cards. However, the biggest thing that the Iranians have is the straight-of-war moves and this mid-term election. Yeah. I also think that the idea of having ground troops go into Iran was never something that was, was Trump was going to do. Like I don't think that it's going to happen. I think the Trump will walk away before I'll do that. I'm not a military strategist, but I know that it's a really mountainous territory. You're not just going to, it's not like Iraq where you can just bulldoze in with a bunch of tanks and stuff. It's really, really easily defended by the Iranians. It'll be a nightmare to get troops into Iran. So I think that that's often, I think that was never on the table. And so yeah, I think that it's likely for Trump to, if Trump decides that he doesn't want anything to do with it anymore, he's just going to be like, all right, well, we win. See you. I agree with that. And if you look at like Pete Hegseth, fought in those forever wars, JD Vance was in those forever wars. Like they know they don't want to dedicate ground troops. We don't want another forever war and it seems like in this debate, often times it was like, you're either all for it or you're all against it. And really Trump has taken the pragmatic approach. And I look back to North Korea, for instance, and Trump's first term. I volunteered to go to South Korea to hire the attention when Kim Jong-un was lobbying those missiles. And President Trump was ratcheting up the rhetoric. You know, he's like, my button is bigger and it works. And I thought we were going in the war, but Trump was able to use diplomacy and became friends with Kim Jong-un. And I remember like these think tank, policy, walk, nerves, and DC, these neo-cons that always talk about, you can't talk to Kim Jong-un. You can't talk to Dayatola and President Trump is like, I think it's pretty good. good to talk to people with nuclear weapons because we don't want to go to war. And so ultimately, I think President Trump wants to get back to this America first, wants to get back to the economy, wants to lower those gas prices, wants to take care of those basic things he talked about in the campaign trail. And I look forward to hopefully get back to that. Yeah. I mean, that's really the thing is we're just in this holding pattern as long as Iran's continuing that even if we do get these domestic policy victories, it's everything is kind of just seized up right now because again, you know, and I'm saying this as a as a massive Trump supporter, I mean, this was aligned for a lot of people. It was no more new wars like we're sick of it. So many people experienced what happened in the Middle East, you know, with GWOT and previous Hescapades and they're just like, dude, I'm allergic to the Middle East right now. So I mean, I know I'm preaching to the choir on this. I think the miscalculation maybe from Trump was, and I'll give credit to these people that are actually like vehemently in favor of the or the Iran, is they're actually correct when they do say that Iran is this like theocratic extremist country, you know, they're at least their elite. That is correct, which would be the reason why you shouldn't conduct a war with them because they're not rational. Like when you're dealing with great powers, like when you're dealing with the Russians, you're dealing with the Chinese, it's quite easy to understand what they want. What they want to get out of negotiations with Iran. They really do believe that there is like this sort of g-hob that they're taking, you know, part in. So you're basically dealing, again, like to the, again, like the super vehemently like pro-Iran war people are like, there's literally like the Taliban. It's like, yeah, it's like the Taliban with a massive military and like in pursuit of money. And so it's like, that means we should probably like maybe be a bit more cautious with conducting affairs because for them, victory is like literally just surviving. Yeah. You could go through all like the different, try to analyze, psychoanalyze where the Iatola is at or where the Iranian, you know, IRGC is at. I just think they saw what happened in Libya and they're like, hey, you know, we're next if we don't pursue a nuclear weapon. If you're the United States, the only way to win that conflict is to completely eviscerate Iran, which is not going to happen for political reasons, but also just like logistically is going to be very difficult to pull off. Like, this isn't Venezuela where it's just a gas station where you roll on a takeover and hold it up GTA style, it's like, dude, no, this is like a full mature dictatorship that has tools that has, you know, it's got many resources and they're in this geopolitical, they're in this geopolitical situation where these Russians have an interest in them winning. Exactly. It's got partners in the vicinity, right, both Russia and China, you know, have a stake in Iran. Whereas, even if Russia was tacitly supporting Venezuela, it's on the other side of the world. The U.S. can do a lot to prevent Russia from, you know, supporting Venezuela, whereas you can't really do that with Iran, not the same way. Even with the North Koreans, they're still going to respond to logical, like, like, trains of thought. And so far as you can reward them with like certain sanctions relief or cut deals with them, this, that the other, like the North Koreans throughout the Russian conflict, they're like having the most prosperous moment ever because they're capitalizing on the fact that Russia can't really trade if anyone right now, except for them. Iran is different, where Iran doesn't respond to, like, kind of, logical propositions. They're, like, quite literally, like, theocratic, again, which is a reason why we probably shouldn't get wrapped up in the first place. That's just, kind of, like, part and parcel in the Middle East, more than North Koreans. Again, you can just, like, throw sanctions relief their way and they're like, okay, we want point missiles at you for a few years. And if you look at our national debt, we're going to approach $40 trillion, I think, in the next two weeks. I think we're already there. I had a schedule, right? And when I came back from Afghanistan, our national debt was, I believe, $13 or $14 trillion. And I thought that was our greatest national security threat back then in 2012. Now it's 40. It surpassed on August 19th. So tomorrow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep. So I got the debt clock pulled up right now. 39.928. If you would have asked me, I would have said 37's that just shows you quickly these numbers of. Yeah. You're going to ask government because the debt just keeps going up. I mean. I mean, my treasuries. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A gold. You have to actually, you have to ask Michael Burry because they created the instruments for him to short the whole. Right. Default swaps. Yeah. You can see we're like, you know, it's hard to believe we would ever enter that like, you know, doom spiral, but like you are starting to see some of the elements you would expect to see if we were approaching that. And so far as like, yeah, the treasury market is starting to run away. Yeah. And they're what's probably going to happen is inflation is going to be above 5% for, you know, an indefinite period of time and people are going to hate it. And it's just rate hike. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's going to be like a double pinch on. Yeah. Yeah. So the customer, I want my money back. Yeah. Like, what did that get us? Well, Afghanistan. Well, I mean, I mean, I get what you're saying. The overall, everyone knows or at least it is a, it is a fact that the driver of the debt is so Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. And look, if, if, if the government had allowed George Bush to create the, uh, the accounts in like 2002 or whatever they make, um, and put them put the, the money into the stock market, we would have plenty of money. Yeah. If the US actually invested in American businesses, this is why people are like, oh, the US shouldn't be buying stocks because they're picking winners and losers like, look, man, I get that there is an allergic reaction to the idea of nationalizing businesses, but the US purchasing stock is, especially when it's a non-controlling interest and they don't get the vote or anything, they're just buying a, a stock and holding it. That's not nationalizing a, a, a corporation or an industry. And it's, it's actually the government showing, showing that it has faith in the market in capitalist system. And so I don't have any problem with that with what, what the Trump administration is doing buying stocks and we should have done it 25 years ago. Well, I would have paid for itself. I mean, if Bush would have gotten his way, Congress told him, no, this is too expensive. Well, then what ended up happening again, the S&P 500 was hitting record numbers, like literally five years later, uh, I saw a funny post that said that 75% of wealth managers did not beat the S&P over the last decade. Yeah. Yeah. So it's just people who just put it in VO, and walked away are just like, I'm good. It was something like a 50% didn't even beat treasury yields. So it's like, it made more money by literally just investing in bonds like a boomer. Well, right, right now there's a lot of speculation about market collapse. And my view is largely just cash is king. If, uh, if stocks are going to, if the market's going to break, if housing is going to break, you know, real estate, all the things are going to, are going to burst then cash. Yeah. The buying power goes way up. So getting a high yield interest or something, you know? Well, I mean, well, there's two things is one like ex money. You can get, I mean, ex money, six percent, bro. Well, you're getting, and you're getting five percent from yield, like the treasury is right now. You're getting five percent. So like, if you want just like long term gains, like you can get that right now. Um, but yeah, everyone's keeping dry powder on the side right now because everyone's freaked out. Um, but yeah, it's looking a little scarier right now. I can't lie, um, but it's hilarious. Yeah. Just a little bit of austerity in the 2000s could have gotten us out of this mess now. We're instead, I'm not making this up 1.5 percent. So that's a, of the U S national budget or annual budget, 1.5 percent, it's a lot of money is getting spent on dialysis, G 1.5 percent of our budget is being spent on dialysis for old people. I'm getting paid $9 on ex money. Yeah. I got two cents during a show the other day and it completely threw me off. I was like, thank you. Oh, you have ex money. I didn't know I had it. And I look down. I got a notification. It's like, I got two cents from like a libertarian. I'm like, just just from saying that I have ex money. People gave me 40 bucks. Really? I'm gonna go by lunch. If everyone says me two cents, I'll have like a couple bucks. Let's jump to the story from the watch and an examiner, which actually is a red hearing. World War III is arrived and we're almost out of missiles, but that's actually not the story I wanted to bring up. Just that once again, the media is saying World War III. And then we have this from the AP, Israeli strikes, I like the, how they wrote this, Israeli strikes an airbase, Israeli strikes hit an airbase in Northwest Syria to prevent Turkish troops from deploying. The story is massive right now. Israel launched air strikes into Syria, targeting a region where Turkey was expected to deploy. And many are considering it an attack on Turkey. The AP is reporting Israel's struck an airbase in Northwest Syria at early Tuesday saying it aimed to prevent Turkish troops from deploying. Turkey, which has closed ties to the Syrian government, has been providing assistance to Syria's military, has tense relations with Israel. Each strikes hit the runway of the Abu Duhur airbase in the Northwestern province of Italy, causing damage, but no casualties, state TV said. Syria's foreign minister Assad al-Shibani told reporters in Damascus that Syria condemns the Israeli aggression, adding the strikes were an unjustified provocation, the violation of Syria's sovereignty and a direct threat to regional and global stability. So as we were just saying, World War III, and let's put the good old map here and talk about why. There are straight-of-war moves, but let's go to the Caspian. So this is to the north of Iran. And they were shipping weapons and materials to Russia when Ukraine struck that ship. That's bad. But then you've got these strikes in Syria that's from Israel, which of course Turkey was planning on sending troops, which many are considering an attack on Turkey. It's now that they directly attacked Turkey, but they attacked the interest Turkey had. Now Turkey is a NATO ally. And so Israel launching strikes against a NATO ally, this is just getting weird. This is just getting weird. How does this end up, right? Israel, the United States, is greatest ally. Launching strikes against Turkey's planned military operations, and Turkey being an an ally, who's back are we supposed to get in this one. I'd assume Turkey. And just listening to you makes me so sick and tired of the Middle East, so many people from my generation, even the younger people, like the Gen Zs are totally done with the Middle East. I remember I was talking to a graduate of Penn State University, and I was asking him about the initial strike on Iran. And it was pretty successful. They struck Iran. It goes, I don't think we should be doing anything over there. And it was like just point blank, like he has zero appetite from the Middle East. And I'm starting to get to that. And if you talk about World War III, if the United States wants to be postured for a real World War III type situation, we need to focus on our industrial base, we need to focus on our own hemisphere first. And as we keep on chasing these ghosts and set com, you listen what you're saying about Israel and Turkey and all stuff. We can't even figure out things here in the United States, right? So let's focus on building a strong republic, bring back manufacturing to America so we can actually produce these ballistic missiles at a higher capacity. Let's strengthen our military or recruiting and look at the real long-term threat, which in my opinion, number one, focus has to be on our debt, our financial solvency, and then take care of deporting as many people as possible, securing the border. But if you look at World War III, who we're going to be fighting, most likely China. What are we doing with the Pacific Deterrence Initiative? We are not postured for success, in my opinion, in the Pacific, while we keep on dumping tons of money into the Middle East. I completely agree. There's a lot there for starters, most important thing, shout out to Matt Murphy for the two cents. Additionally, yeah, this would cause a huge crisis, like if if Israel really did a grass on Turkey. They probably won't happen. Well, they did. Well, like if it's a strike, if they strike Turkey, and then they invoke Article five, that creates the biggest political crisis since World War II. Because what's going to end up happening there is like one of two things, probably both, is Trump either says post 1949, World Order, gone, NATO, gone. It's like, it's a free for all. What's going to happen is Turkey is a deal with Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. They signed a mutual defense pact, I think last year, a few years ago. So our entire, to your point, our entire posture that we've been building up in the Middle East now for decades, which is, in some parts, at least this is the goal of the Intel community is building up an anti-China posture in the Middle East. Some of these Saudis are out, the Pakistanis are out. We're screwed. We're completely screwed. Well, here's my concern. Isn't Syria already in the Western fold? Wasn't this the purpose of ousting Assad? Didn't the US just enter negotiations with Syria? Why is Israel like, here's the question, Bashar al-Assad was opposed to US interests aligned with Russia, opposed in the US, US's plan for the cut of Turkey pipeline. So we did not like him. We wanted him gone. Okay. He's gone. He flees. New government comes in. So I'm confused to what's going on, right? Israel's still launching strikes against Syria, even though didn't we just oust Assad and didn't we gain more Western control or is it that we didn't? So they're continuing these strikes in which Turkey is defending Russia. Which is it? Yeah. Well, it's like, this is I think what frustrated Trump is he's like asking Israel what do you want? Because okay, we supported the ousting of Assad. Now, Syria brings in new leadership. Of course, they're going to have Islamist backgrounds. It's Syria. So now, Israel is a problem with this current leadership crop. The Turks are coming in and they're saying we want to bolster, we want to basically buttress the new Syrian leadership. We want to support them, help them build out a government, build out a military, etc. From Israel's perspective, they're saying, no, we want Syria to stay weak because we're suspicious of any leadership that rises in Syria. So it's this like total mess that's occurring now in Syria. Again, you know, you would have gotten called every name in the book for just saying, I don't know, man, maybe keeping Assad in there might have been somewhat stabilizing. Like he was actually a bit of a stabilizing force. It's neither here nor there. Now, yeah, again, Trump is just putting this really difficult situation, which is like again, if Israel and Turkey are clearly trading, you know, trading blows, but they're clearly not seeing eye to eye, what does that leave us? Because let's just go worst case scenario. Let's say Israel does start like conducting some sort of real operation on Turkey. Europe's going to back up Turkey. There's no question about that. So we're going to be completely isolated. It's going to be us and the Israelis versus the entire world. I mean, that's a disastrous situation. China will eat everyone's lunch to your point. We're not ready at all on the Pacific right now. And Iran, the Iran war is crippled our allies and the Pacific. I mean, Taiwan is running on fumes right now quite literally like the majority of their energy infrastructure in Taiwan was LNG, primarily coming from Qatar. They're having to buy, you know, at a huge market from the Aussies right now. So Taiwan's drowning. The Japanese are serious trouble. I mean, again, we go back to the bonds discussion. The Japanese economy. They're trying to save their currency right now. That's not a good look if you're a, if you're a mid, you know, middle power in the world. The Koreans are I, I, I ran so I'm, I'm genuinely confused by what we're seeing here with the, with the issue of Syria. Of course, like, you know, we've covered a lot of the stuff on Tim Guest, IRL. If the US is actively trying to negotiate with the new Syrian government, why would we tolerate Israel launching strikes against the new Syrian government? Israel's always a pain in the balls. Yeah. I mean, essentially what it boils down to, right? Like, whether or not they share intel with us, whether or not they're a, you know, the, with a government has largely said, they're an outpost of democracy in the Middle East. And they give us basically forward look into what's going on in the Middle East. The Assad are great at infiltrating, I mean, all that can be true. But is it worth, you know, standing with Israel against NATO? And look, I've said before that I think that Turkey shouldn't be in NATO because they're a theocracy and we shouldn't have a theocracy in NATO. Like that is a, that's a big per, you know, an Islamic theocracy. That's a big problem because that means that their goals ultimately don't align with Western goals. So, you know, Turkey has, you know, the inclination to do whatever they can to empower themselves. There's probably people in Turkey that are like, we got to bring the Ottoman Empire back. And to pick sides between like the bad friend and the other bad friend, it does kind of make me think like, well, look, man, maybe the US should be like palms up dude, you guys are on your own. And the reason. Oh, good. I'll just say I think back to when Trump was getting ready to board Marine one and he dropped that epic F bomb on the floor of the White House, like these people lost their effing mind. Where they're crazy. Right. And he was so frustrated that he's trying to accomplish the United States strategic objectives and our ally seems to be undermining him when they want to drop all that ordinance, right? And this looks like another case where our ally is undermining our strategic interest. And that's why, you know, we always say in the military, the enemy has a vote. Yeah. We can put the other plan. Yeah. Yeah. And we can bomb the hell out of Iran, which we did and we can sink their navy. We can destroy their air force. We can greatly degrade their ballistic missile capability. But there's the second and third order of effects in the region that you can't predict. Yeah. But any of the smart guys in DC say the think tanks were even guys like me with combat experience, you try to make the best guess. You know, you plan for the most probable course of action and the most dangerous course of action. And what we've seen throughout world history is one military decision can set off a huge catastrophe down the road. So I think President Trump, though, he is, I still believe he's the president piece. I think he wants that. I know he wants that. How do we get out of this? Uh, cleanly, I'm not sure. But ultimately, I think the American people, they want to refocus on America first, right? And you just like Tim walking through this news arc like, man, I am so exhausted by the Middle East. Well, and this is why serious specifically such a complicated situation. Like let's flush out what's going on here. So we need to like start from the basics here. Trump and Israel are not aligned on what should be done with Syria right now. So as I laid out, the Israelis prefer Syria to be weak because again, there's a suspicious of their leadership. They do not want Syria to be bolstered in any way. There was an al-Qaeda guy. Yeah, exactly. So, so you know, the Israelis like from their, you can see from their perspective why they feel this way. Now here's to your point, like second, third order consequences of the Iran war. This is what adds an extra complication is many have pointed out that there's a possibility that the Israelis just don't want this war to end. Now something that should be considered is they would not be bombing Syria right now if the Iran war was not occurring. Why? They understand that as long as the United States is dependent on Israel and this conflict with the Iran, they don't have any leverage over Israel as they conduct affairs in Syria. So the United States has been explicit. The United States once Syria to be stable, Mark Rubio has said this, everyone in the State Department has been explicit, unusually explicit actually, that they want Syria to be stable because they know that the Syrian government has made like real, actual, tangible efforts to sort of exhibit to the world that were no longer Iranian aligned. If communicated to the world, we're okay with sort of getting in bed with the Turks, we'll keep the Iranians out, we're willing to do that. So that's like new, that's music to our ears as Americans, we're like sweet. So we don't have to worry about Syria anymore because Syria has been this like thorn on our side for a long time. We do not want the Iran, again, from the, you know, the State Department's perspective. We do not want the Iranians to have a beachhead in Syria and we've all the troops that are there right now. It's a huge mess. So if Syria is strong and maybe it's strong, but as if they're stable, that solves that problem. We don't want to worry about Syria anymore. So again, the State Department has been very explicit with what they want to see from Syria. But they can't come out and put any, you know, they can't twist the screws in the Israelis right now because you cause any sort of rupture in their relationship right now. Again, let's purely. from the State Department's perspective right now, any rupture in that relationship were screwed in Iran. I mean, more screwed than we already are in a lot of ways. It's going to be disastrous from their perspective. So there's all these like, again, all these different dynamics going on that is just, again, put us in such a complicated situation. The second and third order consequences from Iran, I agree. I mean, I do think Trump is just like really, I quite frankly upset with how this has played out because the Israelis are playing their hand from their perspective. They're playing their hand quite well. They're saying we can do whatever we want, basically, in Syria right now. The Americans won't do anything about it because they can't. They quite literally have their hands tied. So it's just between them and the Turks to figure this out. So complete disaster. Yeah, it's a mess. And, you know, I don't know, obviously, I don't have any kind of inside information about what the plan is for Trump. But I do think that the fact that Israel is initiating strikes to prevent Turkey from getting a stronger foothold in Syria, I think that the Trump administration has got to draw a line and be like, look, you need to stop this. And if the US has, like, this is the time to pull out all the stops when it comes to Israel and be like, this can't happen. Here's the problem. I know a lot of people are going to be repercussions. It can't just be like, oh, we're-- I know. And I know everyone in the audience is shouting right now. We'll just tell them to go screw themselves. Tells the Israelis to go screw themselves. And it's like, I understand the impulse trust me. The problem is we're at war with Iran. So again, if we are trying to sort of mop the situation up in Iran and then we piss off the Israelis, guess what they start doing? They start bombing his bully even harder. They start really going at it with all of Iran's proxies. Again, no peace deal ever. As long as the Israelis are bombing and going, you know, to protect with the Iranian proxies, there will be no peace. So part of the problem here again, the math, is you can't, you know, geopolitically speaking, you can't tell the Israelis to go screw yourself because they will just-- At Trump's demonstrated, he's very frustrated at this. I mean, a few, like, month or two ago, we had the whole rift because we had the MOU and then the Israelis started bombing Southern Lebanon and the Iranians were like, dude, what? Like, that's your boy. And he just, you know, took a swing on one of my boys, deals off. We don't want that to happen again. If we kind of approach a new MOU, we get that inked again. But the Israelis have a bone to pick with us. So they start, you know, settling scores in the region again. It's going to completely unravel it. So there's not much we can do about this. If the Israelis are-- they can do basically whatever they want in Syria right now. As long as this war is continuing in Iran, we don't really have many options. And that's what's scary. The fact that we're the biggest, baddest country on planet Earth and we're boxed into a corner. I wonder if it's worth just, you know, just pulling out of Iran and being like, look, this is not going to continue as long as the region is-- We can't because they'll shut the straight down. So I mean-- I mean, so that's the global economy. That effect. Well, I don't know whether it would crush the global economy. But like, it would cause problems. But I mean, there's been six months of efforts to circumvent the straight so far now. It's at like basically like 30% function right now. And gas is up $4 a gallon. So I mean, if the straight shuts down, the Iranians put a toll in place. The, you know, access block. I hate so courage to say that. But like, you know, the China block, so to speak, they're enriched, we're poor. Suddenly, I mean, you even started having these doomsday projections. Like, maybe the USD's on the chopping block. I mean, what happens if the Saudis are saying, the US, we cannot trust the US to carry out, you know, managing the global economy. So we're going to pivot to China. That's what you're going to see. Again, I'm just being, I'm being a neutral observer here. I'm not interjecting my opinion. I don't think any of this is great. I'm just simply like trying to see around this corner of what would happen if that happened. And again, we would have to be okay with the fact that the US would, you know, our standing on the global stage would severely decline. Things would get a lot more expensive and China would sort of emerge as the global superpower. I think too, if you look at our standing on the global stage, I mean, we spent all this money in Afghanistan and we're paying the Taliban right now. So like, you talk about humiliation. You know, that's the place where empires go to die. And I remember, you know, I was very proud to fight there because that's where 9/11 started, right? So so many of us went there because of New York City and the Pentagon and the Pennsylvania flight. And now we are paying the Taliban. Right. So how many, how many more embarrassment can we have? I don't know. What's the point of paying the Taliban? What's the question for? Yeah, get that question stupid. You're not going to stabilize the, you're not going to stay there. There's no other show in town. And we don't want to go back in there. And there's no other show in town. What do you mean? There's no other show? From the perspective of the United States, there's no other potential leadership in Afghanistan. They're like, China. They're 65 IQ. Exactly. Yeah, 65 IQ. So if we stop paying the, you know, paying the Taliban, if we stop, you know, tactically supporting the Taliban's right now, rule, then the Chinese just eat our lunch. Well, wasn't it, wasn't it the Taliban? We're trying to stop the Batchabazi stuff or whatever. I'm not sure if the Taliban were, yeah. So I'm pretty sure because they're like very religious. One of the issues was that maybe you know better than me. You know, what's it called? Batchabazi? Yeah. There was, there was an issue apparently where they're deeply religious and they're like, we banned this. And the US found allies and locals who are like, what we'd like to do this. So the US was like, oh man, well, you know, they're going to help us fight the Taliban off, but they want to be able to bang kids. So the US ordered people to stay silent on it. We had to deal with it every day, you know, and so I was in Pactia, which was like one of the most conservative parts of Afghanistan. And you'd have what we call these chai boys, these cute little 10, 11, 12 girl boys who would serve tea to us in these meetings. And we knew that that child was a sex life. Wow. And so my interpreter told me that these parents to try to get their kids a better life would sell their child into one of these arrangements. And the expectation was is that the rich Afghan elder would take care of this kid and then send them to like the university, right? And then this interrupt them. Yes, repeatedly. And we would talk about this like man, man, boy love Thursday or whatever. And you just hear all these stories about how these guys were taking advantage of these young little boys. And there's actually a CNN article written. I can really part of the Afghan war. I think it was down in Canterhart in the southern part of Afghanistan where these army nurses couldn't figure out why Afghan women weren't getting pregnant. And it was because the men were having anal sex with their wives. That they were so used to this degeneracy of this gay culture. And I couldn't believe it. And so my men and I was one day to give a quick little story. I was along the Afghan Paxing border. I was visiting a border patrol point. And I was trying to get a well installed, right? I'm an infantry officer trying to install a freaking well for these guys to get water. And there was a, like a bathroom facility. And I wanted to go inspect it. And one of my squallers said, sir, you don't want to go in there. I'm like, no, I'm going to go in there. Because don't know, trust me, don't want to go in there. And so why not? He said there's a bunch of used condoms in there. All the Afghan soldiers were, you know, having sex with each other. And so a lot of people like the Afghani soldiers were. Yeah. And so it made me coming in as an Iowan into Afghanistan where I heard that these guys were very serious practicing muslims. You would say they were all gay with each other? Yeah, it was, it was, it was unreal. So one of these guys, maybe I'll continue to, sorry, sorry, sorry. And so I tried to, so I wrote an op-ed about some of this stuff in the Federalist. They actually published it about like all of the insane things that normal American service members had to witness. And we had to keep our mouth shut. Because these guys were our allies. But you would see this stuff. And I gave one of the Intel officers a camera. And the job was for this Afghan border patrol officer to take photos of weapons and things that he could buy. So I say you show me weapons, AKs, RPGs, whatever that you can buy. And we'll, we'll take them, right? The American force will take them. Well, I get the camera back and I download the images. And there's a bunch of images of these Afghans getting high, like hugging each other. And then oh, and then there's a picture of these AK-47s and these RPGs. And I'm like, this is insane, right? And those are the things that we need to deal with. And then also if you want to talk about like the way they would treat women. So I would never see an Afghan woman ever. We would patrol, we'd get on foot and we'd go through a village and all the women in their burkas would just flee, right? And because the men would like beat them and all the stuff. And they couldn't be around American men. But we had these female engagement teams that were attached to my unit. We had three incredible Iowa girls that were attached to us. So if we had to talk to a female, they could talk to them. Well, if I had these women attached to my unit, we had to like babysit them, not because of them, but because these Afghan men, these Afghan national security forces would just hover around them. And like, seriously, we're super creepy. And then we'd be going through these villages and these men would just start pouring out. And these young women, like, these, they just want to do their job. They just want to serve their country. It a very important role to play. And these guys, they do not respect women. respect our norms and that's why I was trying to warn people during the Maldonial action. I'm like, Hey, guys, you don't want these people in control of your government. Yeah. And although like I respected the guys I served with, my interpreters, stuff like that, we got in a fire fights together. Like they were courageous. I wouldn't want them around my three young kids. And then they tried to import these people into the United States saying, Oh, they served in the United States. They helped our interests. Let them come. Yeah. And so my answer was to these lawmakers like, Okay, put them on your block. I was over there. I don't want them in my neighborhood. What a high park. Just give them like a pocketbook constitution. And yeah, they should just figure it out. Simulate right? Yeah, it's like, as soon as they touch it, it's like, like their brain just fills with knowledge. Just a few Prager U courses. They'll be right. They'll be right at rock. No problem. Yeah. Just watch some Ben Shapiro videos. You know, they'll be one of us. Everyone is a blank slate. That's the great. Even even if I'm 35 years old. If I had to take one lesson away from the last 70 years of American history, it would be, we're all blank slates and everyone's the exact same. We're no where you come from. Holy crap. That makes me, you know, my first thought when you were talking about the cultural practices, I was like, is turning it to glass still an option. But obviously it's a joke because we're trying to save these kids from this torture and torment. So you got you got a rock in a hard place. Well, is the US going to invade every single country every time someone like this happens? You know, we don't agree with them. Right. You know, and for me, I'm in a tough spot. I'm 26 years old. I'm a platoon leader. But I don't want these kids to be raped. You see these little kids in these rooms and you know exactly what's going on. And I'm there to have a meeting with village elders, right, to talk about intelligence, gathering, to talk about all this stuff. And every dad in my platoon is looking at little kid. And they want to beat the crap out of these guys. Right. And it's just an unfortunate part of this warfare, this counterinsurgency. And that's what makes like the American style of colonialism so indefensible because like the British, if they came in and they saw that kind of thing going on, they would just say, I don't know what you need to do to mop this up. Don't let this happen. But like when the Americans came in, you guys knew exactly what needed to be done to end that. But they're like, no, we're here to build like a wholesome chunga's democracy. And like, we got to do this that in the other. And it's like some chews like these people, there are moral infractions that I don't like cultural, you know, okay, some cultures like, okay, we know they eat with a spoon instead of a fork. It's like, okay, well, that's not what we're talking about here right now. We're talking about like quite a little what you've outlined, completely indefensible. All the guys on the ground, they're new, you know, it's kind of like with the police departments in America. It's like these cops know exactly what to do. They just, you know, need to be allowed to do what needs to be done. It's the same thing in your situation where it's like, you knew what needed to be done. Weren't there instances where individuals were shot and killed some of these people and were court-martialed? Like stories where like a soldier caught a guy raping a kid and then I wouldn't surprise me. But I can't think of a case like a mind. I feel like it's something I've heard about it. I don't know. Let me look it up. I think they're trying to do that with the Australian guy right now. Yeah, then that's right. Yeah, he was literally just. He was an all-star. Yeah, he was like the Michael Jordan of like G1. Yeah, he was. As far as Australia was, yeah, he was like an all-star and they're just like, oh, we've come up with these charges. He did this that violated the human rights of people that were obviously doing terrible things. We were just handcuffed all the time. And so you could hear that because, okay, well, you know, the United States was trying to employ counterinsurgency. They're trying to do different types of. Oh, yeah, yeah. But even on. I was trying to drop a bomb. It was right along the Afghanistan border. I'm just trying to do infantry work. Not only am I trying to do all this counter surgery stuff and work with local village elders and work on local governance and agricultural stupid stuff. So now I'm in a firefight where my man or pin down in a location where American soldiers had died. We had rolled through this valley and there was like a memorial of soldiers that got killed there and you could see why because the turn was so tight if you could roll your truck into a riverbed and we're like, oh, we're getting jacked up on the way home, right? So you just kind of know that. You're like, okay, we're going to get into a fight and so we go to the board patrol checkpoint, do some work. We come back soon if we get ambushed, right? So I'm a ground force commander, I'm a platoon leader, which means I can make the call to drop this bomb. And I'm making the drop. And a guy from an air-conditioned room somewhere in Bogrum or Kabul or whatever is trying to contact me on my tactical satellite radio and trying to get me to stop. I just ignore them. I actually don't hear it because I'm actually trying to drop a bomb to save my life and my men's lives right? So even the normal war fighting functions that we were trying to do just because I was like I think 400 meters away from the Pakistani border, they were worried about, ooh, is this going to send political shock waves or whatever. And so I make the drop by God's grace, very successful drop. We get all of our men out alive. We get home and I'm thinking to myself, oh boy, I'm going to get my attitude because I just dropped this bomb right close to the border. They all slapped me on the back and different guys took credit for it above me. And you're like, wow, okay, this is a tough job. And I think most American citizens are like, we want the most fierce lethal fighting force in the world. We don't want these guys to have to worry about all this political bull crap that we saw in Afghanistan, all the stuff. We just want these guys to fight. Let's quit handcuffing these guys. Stuff I saw in Afghanistan. Because a few are real quick. So in 2011, two US Army Special Force Soldiers intervened against an Afghan local police commander who had raped a boy and they faced disciplinary consequences for it. Captain Daniel Quinn and Sergeant First Class Charles Matlin confronted an Afghan police commander Abdul Rahman in Kundah's province. They said, Kundah's after learning had kept a young boy around 12, chained to a bed and raped him repeatedly for days. Quinn was relieved of his command and left a military, Matlin, Martin, sorry, received a formal reprimand from a general call in his actions, flagrant departure from expected standards. This adverse mark on his record led the army to push for his involuntary separation force retirement years later. Yep. I remember there's a big scandal because there were US troops who were horrified to learn they were to keep their mouths shut and sit back and let the rapes happen. Yeah. And like that's who we were defending in Afghanistan. That's who was who was on our side. And it's like and it's it's almost simple how you how you solve this, which is again, let you guys you know what needs to be done. You know how to like establish order because your soldiers like hello, it's like in your description, your job description, let you guys conduct your you know, do your job. And then again, the United States administers governance, good governance in Afghanistan and in exchange, you know, for the the gratuity, you know, for the graciousness of governance as we extract resources. It's like the most like we've been doing this for thousands of years, but all the sudden we decided to flip everything on its head and the 20th and 21st century and like we're just going to impose ideology on it. No, I'm just going to rag on liberalism. Okay. Just liberalism. The the the idea apparently the reason why they were like don't stop the rapes is because they don't want to undermine the culture of Afghanistan. That's that's the argument they were making. So you know, I'm sorry to just go all fictional on you guys, but it's a it there's a beautiful reference to Star Trek in this in that your Star Trek fan by chance. Of course I am and everyone knows it, but they have something called the prime directive in the series, which has been a component of the show since its inception. That is the advance civilization, the federation does not intervene in the local culture of, you know, another we don't we don't affect their development. And I love this because it is very much the liberal boomer of the 80s who made this show. I'm a big fan of the show, but they romanticized. They fantasized in the fictionalized version of discovery of coming to new lands. In this instance, it's science fiction where they go to new planets. The people are just a little different, just a little different. And they're ignoring the fact that when, you know, like the Spanish came to Central America, they found the Aztecs were ripping out children's hearts. And so they're like, we're gonna stop this. We are going to directly intervene and put a stop to this barbarism or in Afghanistan, the inverse. What's that? They rape boys, guess the United States should not get involved in that and respect their culture. Now I prefer the colonization. I prefer the white European colonial coming in and just being like, I have a sword, I'm not going to let you rape that child. Please stop and step back. Yeah. It's like very simple. And it's better for everyone involved because, okay, we're rewarded for expending blood and resources to establish order in these places that are just quite frankly a disaster zone. And in exchange, again, we receive resources and whatnot from these regions. Resources, they're not even using. I mean, like, you know, this is the common thing with Africa is they're like, oh, you know, I don't understand all Africa's so poor. They're sitting on all these resources. Must be because the colonizers took all the resources. Like no, they're still there. You're just not extracting them and using them for anything. You could maybe attribute it's like warlords, but also I just don't think you have to know how to do it. Yeah, let the British and the French and the Americans come in. Like, we know what to do with these sorts of things. We'll like build some nice TVs and send them back. It's like, this is a well-established way to conduct affairs. But to Tim's point, like the poison of liberalism that came in that really, like, you know, sunk its teeth into our geopolitics in the 20th century has just led to the situation where we think it's like altruism to let them destroy themselves. It's like, actually, no, the freedoms to destroy yourself is not freedom at all. That's slavery. So again, us coming in and imposing a better way of life as in basic ethics and whatnot and then being rewarded for that, much better arrangement than us explaining blood, steel, etc. for nothing in return. I mean, and they hate you anyway. Let me actually take. Do you think that India would have the problem it does with feces if the British remained? They didn't when the British were there and then all of a sudden it became a sudden problem after that sudden problem. Well, you know, they put up signs saying poo in Lou. The classic joke is, you know, what they used, you know, what they used in Zimbabwe before they used candles. What's that? Like colds. So I have friends who have gone to India and they said that there's just feces everywhere littered through the streets and you'll go to a public bathroom and you'll find the feces littering, littering outside of the door and around the building because the insides are so disgusting that people don't even go in them, they just go next to it and go on the ground. That's, yeah, it's crazy what you find in the rest of the, see the problem we have in the United States with these liberals, not so much the lefties, the liberals have a romantic view or a romanticized view of the rest of the world, they assume everyone's just like them. So I go, you know, I'm going to go to India and it's going to be beautiful and you go there and you're like, there's crap everywhere. And then the leftists know full well how bad it is in other countries and they're like, yeah, but we want, we want to steal power. So, yeah. Well, we sell that in Afghanistan to where we would have the Afghan soldiers stay with us on our compound the night before major operations. They used our bathrooms and they completely messed them up. They're standing on top of the toilet lids. What? Because they, that's how they like use the bathroom and we went back and they just destroyed everything. And you're like, oh my god. It's unreal. And I thought, I think they were like trying to install foot washing stations. Was that? Yeah. You have W that got put back. Yeah. Just holster the dogs. We want this problem. Yeah. But they take their shoes off everywhere. It's without the CSA even telling them to do so. They just do it. Well, not they're going to ban dogs in the United States because Islam doesn't like dogs. Yeah. Well, if there's one thing that Americans are like, we'll get radicalized over it's us touching the fur babies. That's how you get women to stop supporting radicals, take their cats from them. Yeah. If they start like cracking down on dogs, like single, like women will start forming SS units overnight. Yeah. Okay. Crazy. Jit. Seriously. Like, people will not have that. Yeah. No, like on ironically. And you had a Tim's point. I mean, like you go to India, right? And it's like, there is like really beautiful architecture there. It's either really old or like the British builds it, like the Victoria Memorial. Of course. If you look at the Victoria Memorial in Calcutta, it is like one of the most beautiful buildings I think I've ever seen in my life. And the British literally built it out of benevolence. They were just like, yeah, we appreciate you guys helping us fight wars. We just wanted to like show our gratitude and like show like, you know, we like this partnership. So we're going to build the most beautiful thing you've ever seen your entire life. And if you go to like on Google, if you go to the Google review, as you'll see a lot of Indian people are applying and they're like, this is so beautiful. Like we're still thankful to the British for this to this day. But a lot of people in India still resent the British because they told their ancestors to like eat with a fork and cause us a lot of strife. You know, India is, I mean, to be fair, to be fair, India probably is better at administering their own affairs. And the British would be right now. I don't think the British are into hot of a position. But in the absence of liberalism, Western civilization is a stabilizing force everywhere. Not because we're implementing our system and their country, but because we're just imposing our way of life on those countries and that's just better for everyone involved. It's like, if we're creating prosperity, then that can be replicated other places. And it's not by like installing democracy or whatever it's just by like providing them with our governance. It's people are so desperate. These people are desperate to be under Western governance. They're like pouring into our countries. Eric Prince makes this point. Let's provide it to them. Not like go in there and install democracy, but like literally just take over, extract the resources they're not even using and like provide them some basic security so they can like have a shop without getting shot or something. A lot of it is just the basic security part, right? It's all it is. It's not complicated. If you like, if you set up like some basic security says, uh, apparatus, whatever you want to call it and and make sure that you have some kind of of way to moderate the corruption that seems to be rampant, a lot of these places turn into very different cultures, right? Well, not culture, but very different societies. You've got a basic foundation. And if the local people don't have the capacity to manage that, then what's the actual problem of some other country coming and saying, Hey, I mean, the UN does it with peacekeepers or they say they do it, but then they blow it, right? They botched the job because they don't have the ability to do what's necessary. Well, in half of these countries, I honestly, the majority of countries on this earth are not real countries. Like again, El Salvador, prior to Bucayla cannot be described as a real country. That was, they were being ran by gangs again to establish a country, right? To like be legitimately, you know, viewed as a country. You need to be administering like basic services to your citizens. And they're failing to provide basic security to their citizens. You're not a real country. I mean, someone's got to come in and show you how it's done. You know, thankfully, in El Salvador's case, they did elect someone that was able to conduct that. And to your point, Bucayla didn't like implement these complicated economic like procedures or he didn't get the world bank involved. All he did was just crack them on crime. And the majority of Salvadorans are just like looking out for their well-being so like, Oh, I can open a shop. There's a very popular trope on the left that is that poverty drives crime. And that is false. That is 100% false. It's crime drives poverty. It's the other way around, right? If you have a security, if you have a, a, a locality in an area where there is security, where the police enforce the law, and you have courts that actually function, that will solve most poverty, at least the, the object, abject poverty. People will be able to invest. People will feel like their money's not going to get. I, I have this agree. You can't impose a high trust society and a low trust people. No, no, I'm not saying you, I'm not saying you're going to impose a high trust society. But what you can do is make the people that are there rely on the government structure, because when you have a low trust society, you need a an authoritarian type government or a stronger. This is what they're trying to do. They imported a bunch of low trust third-worlders and then said, put it, "Flock cameras everywhere." And we'll just beat the crap out of anybody who says otherwise. We didn't, we, the United States didn't need that before the immigration. What I'm saying is there are places, you're talking about a place that doesn't have a high trust society where people are, you have to do that. Well, to be fair, yes, like if, if the United States, let's say we go to like Liberia and just put troops in every street corner and aim guns in anybody who acts out, just, they get dragged off and taken away, you will get a functioning society so long as we hold the boot over the fence. Yeah, yeah. You're describing it. It's what we're talking about. Well, what you're describing is like if you are, you know, presented with, this like term doesn't actually mean a lot, but like if you're presented with a low trust society like, I don't know, Liberia as an example, you can't manufacture a high trust society. So the next best thing is insulate the majority of people from the crazy people. It's just, it's pretty simple. Look, it's just order. It's just making sure that the population has order, that you have courts that function without a ton of people have greasing their palms without having to be like, well, you know, I don't know if these guys are going to actually, you know, they're going to treat me fairly in the court, have a court that's administered by someone that's actually like, look, man, I don't have a dog in this, right? My friend is not back here telling me who I should pick or whatever, like have that and have a security force that will actually arrest criminals. And you don't get a high trust. I'm not talking about getting a high trust society. I'm talking about order. This is what, what's the name, Lee Kwan, you did in, in Singapore with the past. It was a mess. And he came in and he's like, look, you all need the boot. And it's a, if I understand correctly, and I'm not someone that's extremely well diverse on Singapore, but it was a fairly diverse society. And the reason, the reason why he needed to come in and put the boot down was because, or part of the reason was because it was a diverse society and people weren't, you know, didn't look at each other as, as the compatriot. Lee Kwan used just a great example of what could be described as authoritarian pragmatism where he came in. And he was an authoritarian. But like, everything was like for very pragmatic reasons, like one of my favorite quotes he ever said is to your point is a very diverse society. At the time of independence was about 75% Chinese, about 15% melee and the rest was Indian. He came in and he said, okay, well, elections, democracy is not going to work here because the Chinese will vote for the Chinese guy, the melee is the vote for the melee guy and the Indian will vote for the Indian guy. So he understood, like, again, these are just very, like, natural things. And so yeah, he just came in and he's like, well, we're not going to like, larp like the British. He's like, we'll take what we can from them. But like, ultimately, we can't larp like the British and this is like the mistake a lot of other countries made, relic in Africa, and they actually try to like sort of larp like the British. And it doesn't work. You got to be realistic, pragmatic about what the actual situation on the ground is in your country. Well, all that's interesting. But I'm bored. I want to talk about the Jews. So we got this post from Dan Bosarian. He says they clearly cheated. They literally took away my votes. And he's got two screenshots with different timestamps. And of course, Dan Bosarian has lost the election in Florida's six district to Randy fine, who was recently accused of rifling through someone's mailbox. What? American politics has become psychotic. What are you doing, Randy? I want to watch this. Is it? He's going to go in their mailbox. Is that what he's doing? I didn't actually watch the whole video. I want to make an effect. He's like, he's like looking around. He's looking around. Oh, look at it. And he truly weren't home first. What's he doing? Why is he going through their mailbox? I don't. I think he would say it's a TOS violation. So anyway, um, Dan Bosarian says they took my votes away. And you can look at this from 734 PM. And it says, Randy fine, 8,600 and 88 votes with 37.9. Dan Bosarian with 8,191 at 35.7. And then the race concludes, Dan only has 6,383. So his vote count did go down somehow. And you know, they always just say, oh, you know, we counted it wrong. But I don't know that I trust any of these systems anyway. So it is a weird thing to point out that that happened. And if anything, when they make these stupid mistakes, assuming it is, they just add fuel to the fire for people like Dan to say that they were cheated out of the election. So it should be thrilled he's ever performing the polls. I mean, what were the polls? Like what was it? How was he doing? - It was like eight percent. - Wow. I absolutely love this is the best race ever because Randy Fine could not be more Jewish and pro-Israel and Dan Bilzerian could not be more Jew critical like specifically of the Jews and Israel. So it's just like the most hyper polarized district race on the issue in the country. - You know, it's interesting considering how much Jewish blood Dan Bilzerian has. - It's the most bewildering race for like Dan Bilzerian's also like pretty Jewish, like ethnically speaking. - And is Randy Jewish? - Yeah, he's like 15% or so. - That's true me. - That's like a great grandparent or grandparent. - Wow. - He's got a lot of ideas. - And Randy Fine is this like complicated character where he's actually like really good on immigration but then he's also like beyond like he's like a-- - He's also rifling through people's mailboxes. - Yeah, he's like doing the Biden official or he's like stealing luggage. It's like the same thing. - And then he's also like a full, like a full blown blood and soil nationalist for Israel. Which is like, you know, it's one thing if you're pro-Israel but he's like legitimately like blood and soil guy and you're like very complicated figure. You know, this is one of those races where I'm like, you know, it's okay to say, I don't know if I really have a dog in this body. - I'm glad I don't live in their district. - It's also funny that Dan Bilzerian like, you know, he's like, he's doing the JQ thing but he's doing it in like the third most Jewish district in the country. Like if he would have done it, I don't know, there's probably some district here by the mission. - Yeah, if he'd, oh, you're more, he'd be crushing. - You'd win. - Part of the video, I don't know. I'll take him. - Part of his problem is, or at least some of his problem is he got into it with a lot of the groipers and I don't know what the point like because he was attacking Nick for, I don't know what to figure out what they're about. - It was just stupid shit but the point is like, he's attacking the people that are most likely to go to bat for him. I don't know how many groipers are in that district there considering the floor down there. It's usually young, so probably three of them, right? - But yeah, I mean, Dan's not really a guy that seems to know a whole lot about how Paul is just like, all right, so I'm gonna go really hard on Jews. Let me pick a district. Let's go pick the oldest state by far in the country and let me pick the most Jewish district in that state to run. And it's like, what are we doing? - I'm very surprised with how much support he got. You know, and he can make this claim about the election was being stolen. But I think Florida is pretty well known for secure elections. I mean, if you think back to like, they call, since the 2000 race, remember the hanging chads and everything. Since then, especially under a desantis, they call the races very soon, very early. And Florida needs to be a state that we weigh it on forever. And they can go back and they can look at all the ballots and they can do all that stuff and they can relicate it. But Tim is right. Like, with all this election integrity, all those questions, anybody can accuse an election of being stolen now. And it's getting kind of tired of something. - Yeah, well, I mean, this goes to a discussion we've been having is just the lack of trust in institutions that we have. Like, COVID really did a job on people. There were already, you know, people that were suspicious of the government. There were a lot of libertarians and people, you know, ever since, you know, whether it be the Gulf of Tonkin or, you know, the people that don't believe the official story of 9/11 or, you know, people that were like, oh, you know, the government told me if I like my plan, I could keep my plan or like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. The government doesn't have a good track record. They've lied about a ton of stuff. And then the COVID thing was kind of the straw that broke the camel's back, particularly with people that are our Tate's age, right? Like his, his, you know, when he's like, he's like a teenager and basically they're like, yeah, we're gonna shut the country that will the world down for two years when you're basically becoming an adult. - Well, it's not a little trust too. And my Congressman goes through my mail. - Yeah, well, yeah. - That's like the crazy thing. I mean, he won though. - Yeah, maybe this is why. - Yeah, I wonder, you know, I'd be curious to see like the cross tabs and like the exit polling. I imagine a lot of the people that voted for Dan Bilzerian just like a hate Randy fine. And it was like a protest vote if I had to guess 'cause Randy fine's like kind of crazy. - Well, he, Randy fine told me when he was leaving, when he was here that if we have Dan Bilzerian, he won't come back. - Really? - Dude, he's made like, I remember-- - I'll say, well, dude, I don't know. - I don't know. - I remember Randy wants to come on. - I'm gonna have him on. - I remember Randy fine. He endorsed DeSantis in the presidential primary. And then switched his endorsement to Trump because he said DeSantis wasn't sufficiently like in favor of the Gaza war enough. (laughing) - Yeah. - And then he said if Kamala won, he would move his family to Israel. I was like-- - Randy, is that like, are you really that worried of Kamala? - Randy fine is the dude that like the grippers say all of the Republicans are, like anyone that's pro. - I think he might be like the one candidate that unites like libertarians, populous left, the grippers and Candace and Tucker. Like just everybody at this point. - Yeah, I mean, he has like John Potter hurts like, geez dude, like tone it down. (laughing) What's going on with me? - Yeah. - Yeah, yeah, I would look you wins. You know, again, I imagine unfortunately for Dan a lot of these votes are probably protest votes, but so I don't know if this is gonna be the most viable strategy for campaigning, but going for-- - Well-- - But it does show to be fair that again, you can be hypercritical of Israel and it's no longer a taboo. And so far as it may not win you in election, but it's not gonna get you like tossed off the ballot. - Oh, it's the new left right. - 10 years ago, that would have gotten you tossed off the ballot. - I had a phone call today with a buddy and I was like bro. Remember what I was saying back in February about this new party emerging and like, hold on. Let me pull this up. Let me pull this up. Let me pull up this tweet. - The new party you're talking about is a conglomerate. - 10 months ago, 10 months ago, two million views. What did Tim Poole say? - Oh, yeah, the new left right divide is Israel. - The new left right divide is Israel. And you can take a look at what's going on right now in politics and ask yourself, do we live in a simulation? Let's make it personal, I have to, because sometimes you make the news and the news is you. So I try to hold off on talking about this stuff 'cause it involves me, but you know, so the first thing I'm gonna say is everybody's, a lot of people, I see a lot of people, they're texting me and they're tweeting like, "Why is everybody ragging on you, Tim?" 'Cause I was on Jubilee on Saturday and my name recognition right now is through the roof. There was like a stunt where I got up and walked out. It's perfect for TV, everyone's talking about me. So if you're trying to milk the algorithm, you gotta put Tim Poole in there because that's what's popping up on everybody's feeds. So that's the real reason people are doing it. But to point out the, we live in a fake reality where the new left right divide is going to be Israel. And to point out that I don't play ball with the deep state, let me show you, let me show you this post that I just made in response to Alex Jones. So this has been carrying on since yesterday in ways that quite literally do not make sense. Alex Jones says, "This is why I'm challenging Tim Poole "to a debate on Israeli meddling in America's political system "and the disastrous Iran war question." If you go back in time and stop the failed Iraq war if it doesn't three, would you? To which I said, Israel is meddling in the U.S. A pack has undue and oversized influence on the U.S. political system. Israeli strikes in Syria risking U.S. interest in the region. Now Alex, tell me why you disagree. The point is this, Alex, all of a sudden, started saying, "Why does Tim Poole support Israel?" When I don't, a bunch of his followers started tweeting out, Tim Poole is pro-war with Iran, which I'm not. The point is, guys, I'm gonna go full conspiratorid on you guys. I just, not like them, but like me, you know? I think that there was a plan put in place with Alex from the Trump administration to realign the political parties. I said this in February, Tulsi was gonna resign. I was told by people close to her in the administration, "No, no, she'll never resign." Then she did. I said that Joe Kent and Tucker, they're gonna have this new political party. Maybe they'll go as Democrats, maybe the third party. Now, Marjorie Taylor Greent, Thomas Massey, Joe Kent Tucker are having big meetings talking about the launch of their third party. I didn't make it up. It was told to me by people who are in the beltway. So these are people who work in the administration. They work in the government. They said, "This is what we see happening. This is what the plan is basically going to be." Why was Joe Kent, who Trump's supporting, gave a job all of a sudden like, "No, I can't support this." They are creating a new left-right divide. This is why Tucker Carlson and the young Turks, their opinions have aligned 100%. Have you guys noticed this? Yeah, what does Tucker talking about? He's talking about trade protectionism. He's talking about price controls. He's saying we can't live this way. It is one for one with the young Turks. When you discard woke, their opinions are to overlap. So why did Alex Jones just yesterday decide that Tim Poole was pro-Israel, despite I'm not? I don't think many of these people who are planning these systems, they don't look at the fine-tuning of it. They just know, I don't know, Tim Poole had Randy Fein on and he wasn't mean to him, I guess, and Tim Poole met with Netanyahu in 2025. Ergo, Alex, we want you to go out and say you want to debate Tim on Israel. The only problem is I agree with those things. It's almost like there is a machine in place that doesn't actually know what I've said about what's going on and has decided to have Alex or whoever else debate me on something I agree with. So I'm getting text from people saying, "Tim, you should debate Alex Jones and Israel "and I'm going why Alex and I largely agree on Israel." I don't understand why he's asking me to debate. I don't understand why people in Alex Jones' space are now all of a sudden claiming I have opinions I've never stated before. It is all completely fake. And I think the reason is, and I think Alex is a part of it, is that there is a play behind the scenes, probably super, it's not super complicated. There's probably a political action committee and they said, "Guys, if we want to win in 2028, "you know, if Trump loses." right in the midterms. Then there's going to be impeachments, there's going to be investigations. If Rubio or Vance loses in 28, the Democrats are going to be controlled by the DSA, and they're going to start going after all of Trump's allies. So here's the game plan. The new left-right divide is going to be, so we're going to capture parts of the disfected left, we're going to move them to the middle position, we're going to get rid of Woke, we're going to say Trump is bad, then we're going to create two factions. Woke is eliminated, and you've got the anti-foreign, you've got like the libertarian-esque left, where they're like, war is bad, Trump is bad, Israel is doing bad things to the United States, and then you have the more Neocon pro-Trump right faction of this. That's where things are starting to shuffle out, and everything you're seeing on social media is fake. Alex, whatever pack you're working with, Candice, whoever else involved, I am not so easily manipulated because I don't care. I am not going to be emotionally triggered into being like, "Oh, well, actually Israel I like." I'm going to be like, "Oh, yeah, you're right. Don't care. Thank you and have a nice day." The question really comes down to this. Why is Alex Jones all day on his live shows, on these posts, consistently saying that I work for Israel, that he actually posted Tim gets his marching orders from Netanyahu. This is all completely fabricated and a near two-year-old story. So why is Alex lying about it? So I'll give you an example because let's break down the lies just so we can, once again, explain to you, this is all fake, fake, fake. So also I mentioned, I'm working on a game where you play Alex Jones, and you have to throw Israeli flags at Tim Pools. Let's see, I thought I had a retweeted something. I guess it's not popping up? No, where is it? After I met with Benjamin Netanyahu in 2025, literally like 10 minutes out the door, I tweeted, I just met with Netanyahu. The next day, Jewish Insider reported on some of the things that and they were wrong. Now, Alex and many others are lying and claiming I got caught after the fact and it was only after it was leaked that I admitted to being there, which is just absolutely not the case. So the question is, why is Alex lying? And then you have Robert Barnes tweeting, "Hey, Tim Kess, maybe stop trying to screw over folks who worked with you," which, again, also hasn't responded to. Why did all of a sudden, all of these people, as I already mentioned, there's like, my name is in the press, so everybody wants to latch onto it because I'm trending nonstop, this is what happens. So the question, though, is like, why is Alex and the people around? And why are they lying about it? What is the purpose of lying and claiming that I believe things I don't? Is it because people who don't watch my show will then believe that I think things I don't think? There's a one point I'll make on this one. One of the first things I said to Alex when he posted the Israel thing is that the meeting was public. House inhabit posted videos from the meeting. I took pictures with several of the people there that were posted. The Chatham House rules means you just don't attribute to anyone. So like, you know, if Dave Rubin said, you know, I'm going to go get roast beef after this. Chatham House rules means you don't go, hey, by the way, Dave Rubin wanted roast beef, you would just say someone there said this. In fact, we were entirely allowed to talk about what Netanyahu himself was advocating for, which was the Iran war, to which half the room was largely like F off. No, we're not interested. The question is, why is he claiming it was secret? Why is he lying about it? Well, that's the standard line is. Like, oh, you know, Tim has had a secret meeting. And for the most part, the people that are retweeting this stuff or watching these shows or that end up in your mentions, they have no clue what your actual position is. They just heard this guy's pro-Israel. And so that means, oh, well, you know, if you're not consistently criticizing Israel on your timeline, they're like, well, he must be pro-Israel. They don't put a lot of thought into it. No, I can't speak for Alex from what he's doing. But I'm talking about the viewers, the people that watch Alex and the people that end up, you know, I believe you hosted on April 7th, 2025 because I was going to the White House because I got invited to meet with Netanyahu, to which literally right after the meeting, I said, just left a meeting with Prime Minister Netanyahu in DC, interesting discussion. I will discuss more tomorrow night on Timcast IRL. Jewish insider posted the story, anti-Israel trends in meeting with podcasters on April 8th, the next day. Alex is lying about everything. Who told Alex to do to say these things? Who, who, like, explained to me how Alex abruptly and randomly just goes, did you know Tim pool met with Netanyahu and no one talked about? I'm like, bro, that was like two years ago. And we talked about it on this show. Why would Alex Jones, who was my friend, instead of calling me, just randomly start tweeting things going on his show and making these false claims about me? I had a phone call with a mutual friend and I said, this doesn't seem organic. And they said, it seems like someone's telling Alex what to say. Maybe he's back on the sauce. I think that, you know, for Candace, it's fairly obvious, right? She was a liberal, then she was a conservative. Now she's who knows what? Tucker Carlson, same story. He was a mainstream personality on what MSNBC and I think CNN even, right? And then he went to Fox News. Now he's on his own and he is just what Tucker and Candace are very similar. He is what the people need him to be. Alex is a little different. Alex was always on the outside, but then they destroyed his company, destroyed his life in his business. I wonder if now this is a Trump play or a deep-set plan. I don't know. But someone went to Alex and said, if you want to be in a club and you want it to stop, you're going to do what you're told. And here's the game plan. The new left to right divide. I mentioned that the game plan for the podcast networks is going to be they want to isolate and destroy independent media. So that means if you exist on YouTube or just as a independent producer of a podcast, you're slowly going to get iced out. And what's going to happen is media is going to consolidate around the networks. So think in a year or two, the biggest shows will be, of course, YouTube will have their Mr. Beast. They will be a big network. Paramount plus Netflix, Amazon, they already have their podcasts and they're signing those deals now. Independent shows will be eliminated. So I view what's happening with, you know, here's a theory. They've never liked Alex or Nick Fuentes. They wanted to get rid of Alex and Nick Fuentes. These are the two people who are persona non grata on all social media. Nick Fuentes went to rumble. Does his show there? Of course, they also tried to stop rumble. Alex went to X. And I think he's also on rumble as well. Alex seems to be trying to pander, I suppose. And Nick certainly doesn't. Nick's going after, you know, Candace and Tucker and to a degree even Alex Jones. My theory was that they were trying to pide Piper, Nick Fuentes's followers into a different direction where you could then chop them off and cast them out. That is the way we describe it. Maybe think of it like a plank, but I describe it as we've often described it. The censorship that we saw on YouTube as there's like a spire in the middle of the ocean that bowls outward. It's flat plain on top. And on the edges, they, you know, they pide Piper you to the to the fringe left. And then once everyone is standing there, they hack the, you know, the precipice off and it falls over. And then all that's left is the people in the middle. I wonder if that's the play is the play like we assume Tim Tim pool is this. So we're putting them in this box. And then everything is done as a generic math problem. In which case, everything they're saying makes no sense as applies to my character. So anyway, Grand Conspiracy, my opinion. Do you guys agree to disagree? Look, I, I'm not sure, you know, about a conspiracy. I think that that it's, it's the, the incentive, the incentive right now is to, you know, be critical of Israel. Like you said, your name's in the news. So it gets clicks. So that it just adds up for people to be like, Oh, you know, now the idea or the fact that that, you know, Alex Jones has been a friend and you've defended him on on multiple occasions. You know, it's a drag to, to hear this. It's not real, bro. This is not real life. This is not what real people do. I don't know. This is not real. It's, well, I mean, so maybe he doesn't, maybe he doesn't believe it, but the fact that he's saying this publicly is still, you know, stabbing in the back after you've defended him in, in the past. What would make Alex Jones be so dishonorable and disloyal? Does that, do we believe that is possible of Alex Jones's character? I mean, his recent arc where he was calling Trump like basically demon possessed and stuff. I mean, something happened to him. I think that just like maybe he never was terribly loyal in the first place. No, no, I disagree. I've been, I've been listening to Alex Jones since I was a teenager. This is where the phrase, I say Kibano came from, I came from watching his show in like 2006. I was in Seattle at at a screening of endgame when it first came out. So what would make Alex Jones become a different person overnight? Seems like that's been the case with a lot of these people. It's just, yeah, it makes sense for Tucker and Candace who have consistently done this, but Alex has not. His whole life Alex was the same person until just now. I mean, there's even a lot of people that were minted in the MAGA orbit. I mean, I understand what you're saying with Alex, but it just, it seems like that's the way the winds blowing and for a lot of these guys are saying, look, my career previously is drying up. I got a pivot and this seems to be where the energy is at. So I'm going to tap into that. So it could just be that Alex saw that Tim Poole's name is in the press because of Jubilee. There's a, you know, I get notifications on, we have media, we have PR company, we get notifications on when stories are written about me. And there's a, there's an insane amount. There's hundreds, hundreds because of the Jubilee thing. And there's, and this is what I hate. This is what I've been critiquing people that are going hard on Trump. It's the same thing with you where there's always been an attack vector opened up on you from the left because for reasons we can get into left wingers hate you in particular more so than probably any other political commentator in many ways. So they understand that if they participate in that attack vector, they will be rewarded. So if it's a Sam Cedar attack vector, you do the same thing. You're going to get golf claps from Sam Cedar and all those types that are saying, you know, Alex Jones, broken clock is right twice a day or whatever. So it's kind of different because like his character has not been to. So I want to show you guys an example, and this is not a humble fragment to be disrespectful. The way thumbnails work on YouTube is this one called A B testing, which is relatively new, but it's been around for over a year, I think. You can you upload three thumbnails and three titles, YouTube will then mix and match and see which combination works the best, what's going to get the most clicks. When Jubilee launched the surrounded, it actually had a few different titles. One of them was one moderate versus 20 progressives. It now says Tim Poole versus 20 progressives, which means most people click on my name. But when you look at this one right here, where it says one black conservative versus 20 black liberals featuring officer Tatum, this is that YouTube decided black conservative was more click worthy. Then the name officer Tatum. And so you can actually see this when they do it, one anti manosphere versus 20 manosphere, their name recognition doesn't dominate the post governor Westmore versus 20 on voters did his name has name ID. So what we're seeing, you know, one liberal man versus 20 mega women with Dean withers, watch out guys, get those, get those women safe, you know, I'm just being mean. You should. The point is right now, I think largely what we're seeing is, you know, we can we can set the political stuff aside. And I will say this, viewership is down for everybody. Well, it's just a fact and people are desperate for clicks. So right now, guys, in no joke, you go on X the amount of post with my name in it, it's hilarious. Everybody's trying to get a piece. And that's why I did the Jubilee thing because it's press. It gets your name out there gets you attention. I got another one coming out. We'll talk about that one that comes out, but what we should note here is we're saying, well, what sets Alex Jones apart? Well, there's something in particular here because you're saying that everyone's, you know, feeling, you know, feeling the pinch right now viewership wise, not it's not just Alex Jones losing viewership and freaking out, but they like literally took everything from him. So this is a guy who's quite literally backed into a corner that's going to that adds extra incentive to just like I got to get out of this. I'm going to start lashing out. You know what happens with your corner and animal they start lashing out. And you know, Alex Jones, I mean, you almost feel bad. You do feel bad for the guys lost everything. So of course, it's going to mess with your brain a little bit. Yeah. Yeah, you know, I'll say this. I see it as one of two worlds. My personal opinion is that the simple solution actually is that Alex is working with a political action committee. That is also coordinating with other individuals for the purpose of this new political paradigm. You don't change who you are. I mean, it's been 30 plus years he's been in the industry and all of a sudden his character is so that let me tell you, I tweeted at Alex. Can I publish the voice memo you sent me about Candace? I won't do unless you give me permission and he just stopped responding to me. He won't respond now because it's not even a crazy voice memo, but it's just a remarkable three minute long set. He sent me this. Alex routinely would send me voice memos. I can't stay. I'm not a fan of when people send me voice memos. I'll be like, hey, what are you up to? And I get like a minute long thing. I'm like, ain't clicking that. He just sent me a podcast. What he said to me is about Candace. And he had very, very, it was like very candid where he's just saying like, Hey, man, you know, like, look at this. And here's what I think. And this is like the interesting for him seven months later to completely have inverted all of his positions. I find to be suspect. Let's look at it. Like look at a political commentator. Let's like, let's draw an equivalent to a different industry like Nick Cage, for example. Nick Cage is completely broke, like lost all of his money or whatever. And he said himself he had to start taking roles. He wasn't proud of because he needed to start getting money coming in. So for someone like Alex Jones, same thing completely broke. He's got to start taking on roles. He doesn't like. And one of those roles is the villain. Right. I'm going to attack. But it's not even the villain. It's just the, it's the new paradigm. He's taking on the new, the new left. The left populist where he's going to be a lot with anti-Cusperian, you know, yeah. I mean, that that would be a lucrative arc for him right now. But wouldn't it make more sense for him to come to you as a friend and be like, Hey, I'm struggling with my business. I can't give him money. But to come on the show or promote each other, wouldn't that make more sense than to just completely turn on you? I mean, not if he's being offered money. Yeah. What am I going to do here, Alex? Let me write you a check. It's not going to do anything. But imagine there's a political action committee. And they said, listen, as we go after the midterms, we're going to, this is going to be the play. You can see that, you know, Tucker and an anti-Cusperian are completely aligned in their worldview at this point. They disagree on ancillary things that are outside of the mainstream, outside of the zeitgeist. They just grew up culture war issues. But when a culture war issues have, when it comes like hard American defining issues, right, like long term economics and foreign policy being the strongest issues right now, they've aligned. So you get a political action committee that goes and says, look, you know, we're working with Candace, we work with Tucker. This is the move we're making. We want you in and we can pay you. We can pay you. The man said on his show, he has, he has just about 10,000, he doesn't have more than 10,000 is mega count. So listen, I'm going to say this. We've had Alex Jones is right jar. We, we've got, you know, Michael Malice posted on his wall hanging up as one of my beanies and the tin foil hat that Alex Jones wore on this show. For someone like Alex, who was a friend of ours for years to abruptly and seemingly for no reason be like F-Timple, he works for Benjamin Netanyahu, it's just like, okay. That makes zero sense. What just happened? The irrational. Yeah, it's like, Alex, Alex Jones was my friend. He literally would just text me stuff we would talk. He had, we had a conversation once about what private jets to buy. Just like, that's, that's what rich people talk about. He was like, Tim, I'm telling you, you give a good Jeff about a million bucks. And I was like, yeah, it's about buying a private jet. And now all of a sudden, he's just like, Tim Pools is secretly meeting with Netanyahu and works for him. And I'm just like, out of nowhere, I got people texting me and I'm there like, what is happening? What happened? Like, what did you do? And I was like, I tweeted that if you build up a channel for 10 years supporting Trump, but then stop supporting him, you're going to lose viewers. And everyone's like, yeah, that's not a reason for him to make up fake things about you. That's like, you know what I will say is, obviously we know a lot of people who work at his company. And there's a lot of fervor right now over what he's doing. And there's a lot of, we'll see what happens. But I do think that for most people, money talks and BS walks, so I would not be surprised if there are people who just duck and keep their heads down and sacrifice their morals for the paycheck. There's a lot of money sloshing around right now from a lot of different. I'm just saying, do you expect anybody who works with Alex to stop working with him because they think he's a bad guy? No. How much you want to bet none of them will. They'll just say, leave me out of it. Yeah. I mean, just fair to some degree. I mean, people got to get food on the table. It's fair to a certain degree, but I would I moral, but you can understand why someone to do that is the challenge that I've presented since the COVID era. The deal with the devil is never that he will give you an infinity pool, a new car, fame and fortune. That's a lie. The deal with the devil was always that if you don't serve the devil, he'll slaughter your children. People have this fantasy movie reality where like vision where the devil comes to you and says, how would you like a million dollars? And they go, ooh, what could I do? You can do whatever you want. Beautiful man. Everything will be yours. And they go, wow, tell me what to do. You must serve my interests. And they go, yes, dark lord. I'll do anything to say for fame and fortune. The reality was always the devil comes to you and says, you will serve me now or I will splash acid in the face of your daughter. And they would say, stop. No, please, please. I'll do anything you say. Please don't hurt my child. Those are the people that serve the devil. Those are the people that serve evil. They would bend the knee. When I was a kid, I was watching these like religious cartoons. I don't even remember what I was watching. I think I went to a Catholic school, right? And I remember like a story about a Christian who refused to convert. They told us these stories about how like the Christians would draw the swipe in the sand. Then the other person would draw the other swipe to make the fish. And that was the secret sign of like, okay, where Christians were safe because they would they would kill Christians. And I remember watching like they were taught something and there's like a pagan or like a Muslim and they were like, renounce your God now or will kill you. And I remember watching as like a cartoon as a guy in his knees and he's like, no, I will never renounce my Lord and savior. And then the guy slits his like kills him and you don't see it. It's a cartoon. And then I was just thinking to myself when I was young, because I was like nine or 10, why not just lie? Why wouldn't you just say, yes, okay, I lie and just live, live to see another day. You know, that's that's a great question. Well, I'm older now and I understand a lot of people ask like the apostles like all you have to do is reject them. I didn't, you know, to go back to Alex, you know, it hurts me to know like two close friends are having this like disagreement. And you'd hope that he would just, if he's going through a tough time, you know, To to offer him some grace and hopefully he comes back to you, but it's it's maybe but I'll but I'll say this as well One month ago. I was in Las Vegas for the World Series of poker and I had dinner with Kyla Turner and Lauren Southern and we've said nothing but nice things about Kyla on this show Yeah, we sat down for a couple hours dinner with a handful of lips some conservatives and talked about everything And then a few was like a week later Kyla tweets that when Lauren Southern wanted to confront me. I ran away Which is just made up and I'm sitting or confused being like I don't I don't understand what's happening right now Like I tweeted like what do you mean? We had dinner for several hours together at the strat I posted a picture of it I posted a picture of the strat looking over the city. I was like the strat. Thank you so much for having us. It was amazing And then they just went off on this thing about how like no I was running away from it And I'm just like bro every everything is fake everything is fake guys guys the Jubilee thing was fake too It's fake now with all the respect the Jubilee thing was about 80% real But of course There's a component of it where they're producing a show like I mentioned the claims are out of order and stuff like that You know There was a point where I think it's actually in the show someone mentioned that it was where they yelled they yell at the the people the Progressives for not debating and just yelling at me They were like they kicked the guy off. They're like stop. You're not actually having a conversation So you know to a certain degree you're not actually expecting, you know, it's like very much TV But I'm just gonna tell you like everything we're saying on social media. I will not do it. I will not do it Alex is asking me to debate Israel on opinions I don't have I'm not going to do it and there are people tweeting a handful of tweets We're like we already know what this is Alex is stirring up a fake beef to generate views off of the SEO So that Tim will come and debate Alex Jones and it'll get a million views There's I got a text message from friends. They're like bro. Do the debate. It's gonna be huge And I'm like, what are you talking about Alex tweeted? Invite to debate coming soon Tim and I'm just sitting here being like debate what? like I What are we debating we agree? It's fake and and these people are scumbags, okay? I told Kyla lose my number You want to make fake beef or internet points? I don't fucking do that and Alex Jones wants to play stupid games I don't do that. Okay, they can all screw off and go to hell and I will go live in a van down by the river And yeah, you think I'm joking to be fair with the family now like I said we're gonna we'll get a tiny house down Tiny houses are cool. Yeah, but I mean look the the whole the drama stuff that goes on with like youtubers and stuff There's so many people that are just completely You know completely driven by how can I get the content that I need? You know, whether it be these quote unquote debates or whatever, you know, Sam Cedar was here and he was clip farming and it's like It makes that kind it makes Engaging in any of it pointless because it's not about talking about ideas. It's not about you know Finding where you agree or disagree and hashing it out. It's literally just about, you know I'm gonna, you know, you're the curb and I'm gonna do an alley off of you You know what I mean? It's it's all about just trying to be able to monetize You know whatever interaction you're having and you know, it's like it's pointless But it gets clicks you know, it's tough for me like I'm a fan right like I I'm like a bystander on Iowa watching these guys And I look at people like warriors like Alex Jones seriously risked a whole lot and to see that he would throw a relationship away I mean, that's the reason that it's the reason that I'm here like I used to watch Tim show You know, I would watch the daytime shows and then like when he started doing IRL I was watching IRL a time like the reason I was here is because I was watching one of his streams He was doing a daytime stream and he was talking about oh, you know I need to find some people that they can can fill in and host the show so I can you know get out and do some stuff once in a while And I literally sent a super chat and I was like I'll do it I'd been on the show a couple times so we were friends and and you know and he was like really and then I was just like Wait, are you serious? And so it was like you know a couple days later I grabbed my dog through the dog and the Jeep and we drove down here, you know, hashed it out real quick and I had an apartment Down here I think I remember that show. We actually had a vlog about it. Yeah, like I mean it was actually yeah It was like within within a week. I was you know had a place down here, you know, but I mean it's because Especially this is like in 2022. I think yeah, too and like You know Biden was the president and and nobody knew what was gonna happen And I'm thinking Connie's are taking over and my whole my whole drive was I really believe The United States has a problem with communists and like we're seeing it now materialize with the DSA the way that if you talk to There's tons of polls out that that the whole Democrat party like over 50% of the Democrat party has a You know a positive view of socialism and a negative view of capitalism and it's like you know the whole point of me coming down here It's because I believe in the stuff they do, you know, it's like it's up that Tim does I figured it out All debate Alex Jones for $300,000. Oh, there you go. Let's go and we'll get Joe Rogan to To moderate moderate it. Yeah, all right. I don't know where debating, you know, I just You can whether or not you can fit $300,000 into one pair of pants. Oh, you could do it You'd be surprised Alex doesn't believe it. He said that yeah, no, you got to prove it. Have you ever seen a hundred thousand thousand cash? Not that big. No, not that big. It's like this Yeah, so it's like you're looking at like a little box like this. I think I'll do it What maybe I'll get a new pair of pairs you pinch all the second days I think the most the most cat well the most cash I've ever had was like a Get the positive after a show. So it's like 50 grand or something like that. I Okay, Alex. I'll debate you all right I'm gonna take the position that Israel is undue influence in US electoral politics Apex should register under Farah. They pressured us forcing our hand into the Iranian war for which it's undermined our interests and are they're currently Underwriting our interests in the Middle East they Yeah, I'll take that position and then I guess you'll take the pro Side like why you support Israel, I guess I mean, I can't imagine we both take the Same position right as a debate. So that's my position and then you can take the other one I guess right now Alex's pro Israel now he has to be Well, I mean if you want to debate you'd have to take the pro-Israel position So I say yes, absolutely re-undergran Well, you know he doesn't have 300 maybe you can do a go fund me for it or something 275 Yeah, hey, you know what I should I got to capitalize on this this name recognition chip in two cents of x money I just got paid the guy for his name. There you go. There's a good guy. He sent me to so it's so stupid that he's like trying to have a debate You know, I guess he's like we're gonna get views, you know, I mean, you know what I what I will say is this guys The only channel that I haven't noticed a decline in views to be honest is my morning show It's wild yeah, yeah like I Average 200,000 which is what we always do and that will actually to be fair That's just YouTube with rumble. It's like 150 to 250 and I was actually working with one of our production companies and we were going over this. That's how it came up Because I was saying like look everybody's down. So it's gonna affect ad sales and we're talking about like ad sales strategy stuff And they were like no actually your your the Tim Kess news channel is the same And I was like what like yeah your views are have not gone down for the season. I'm like oh, okay Yeah, I think you have an I think your audience on that channel is like kind of siloed from the kind of Served of media usual the usual consumers like I think you have a different audience there I or else I or else views are down Yeah, cuz I think I or I'll probably overlap some more the political crowd where I think you do have just a lot of more Here maybe like Rogan's fear people. I think maybe no no no this was this channel was post-Rogan Yeah, I'm just saying like I'm trying to think like you know most of the people that have disengaged are people that are also watching the daily wire the blazer or whatever I think the people that are watching your morning show are a different type of people like they're not just consuming conservative media. Yeah, I don't know, you know, I don't know But I'm bringing this up because I'm like maybe the issue is that you know, like if I if I go to Alex Jones is a post He posted an hour ago. It's got 70 it's got 30 retweets, you know what I mean? So it's like I think everybody's looking at their their engagement and they're seeing Limited exposure limited engagement and it's scary to people YouTube even announced that they're gonna be changing the way views are counted To increase the view count which so I saw that last night. Yeah, just like you click on it and you watch for a second as you click It's a view and they're probably doing this because If you're an advertiser and you know Instagram comes to you and says For 50 bucks we can get you a million views. They go excellent. Yeah, then YouTube comes and says for 50 bucks We get you 100,000 views they go yeah, no and then YouTube will try and say no, but listen these are higher quality views They have to at least watch 30 seconds. I don't know what you're talking about All I know is I gotta go to my boss with the report saying Our brand got X amount of views on the ad we bought and YouTube's like okay So YouTube's like screw it a views of you now You're gonna watch over the next few months everyone's viewership is gonna go nuts It's all fake. I remember when we were placing ads like on Facebook. They would You know quantify. I think a view is just you just had to what scroll past it scroll past it. Yeah I remember saying I don't know if I believe what they're telling me now They're incentivized to tell me that my views or whatever for the client is really really high to get you to spend dollars. Yep I was gonna ask you you're saying the YouTube is going down. Is your rumble staying pretty solid? Your rumble views is rumble. Rumble rumbles down a little bit, but relatively the same. So if you look at our rumble, we do about 250,000 to 300,000. And earlier in the year, we were doing about 320,000. So everything's down. I'm not really surprised. It's summer. You know, when it's like, you know, you know, I got to be honest, guys, we got to set up an outside studio so that we can be like, yeah, how amazing would it be to be like chilling outside like the frogs and the crickets and the fireflies. And we're sitting there and we're like, you know, cracks and beers open. We should do that. Skedo net. Let me do that. That'd be nice. We could probably with the technology that got today, we could do an easy mobile studio, probably especially with the new DC thing on the roof. Oh, rooftop. Yeah. Boats. So the we have access to the roof for the new studio because it's a it's a big DC building. They've got a special area of the roof. You got to pay for it, but we're not doing that. But I bet we could set up a little like mobile thing, get like an umbrella. Then we can get like a we'll hire a dad, like a grill dad. And he'll just like grill burgers. And then we'll sit there and we'll get like good old American burgers. And we'll just like, you know, I would not be paying attention at all. I'd be locked in on the burger. You say we're grilling. Yeah, I said that we should we got we have to do an outside studio. Hell yeah. Because my point was viewerships down because of them. Bro, even if it's a Tuesday, I get home from work. I want to go sit on the porch crack a beer, you know, I'm pitching this to you and Sarah. So does like we should do a show from a different location every show. Like, you know, I don't know. Well, that's difficult. Yes, very much. But if we had like a porch, yeah, like a patio studio, we could do the thing where the audience votes on where we should set up the next show. Like do you remember when Pipple did that? He said, where should I do a concert? Which Walmart should I perform at? We do all the people voted on it. And they voted for Sitka Alaska. So we had to go all the earth on Alaska. So we had to go all over the illusion islands to do a show. That sounds amazing. Yeah. You love it. You was like posing with the bears and stuff. You loved it. If like we could afford it. Oh, but we could we could like set up a star link. That's like in the middle of a like DC stars would be crazy and not just do the show randomly and like the Lincoln Memorial or something. Happy. You'll be like, what are you doing with all these cameras at up? It's like, hey, hey, you know, we're doing a show here. We can do like one 360 camera and then people can people at home can choose to be around. Yeah. Oh, we could have like college game day style where everyone's behind the audience. Yeah, I made signs screaming racial slurs. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be awesome. Being a stand on YouTube. You know, that would be fun. Yeah, no, no. Yeah, but my so Phil, my point was nobody's watching right now because like if you go to work, are you going to come just like listen to the news in the problems of the world or are you going to be like, I want to relax, put my feet up and just kind of tune out. I mean, when I get out of here, I'm hanging out with my kid, you know, right, not tonight. I mean, they're so imagine everybody else got home at six o'clock and that's what they're doing. Yeah, you know, so unless you make a family friendly show or something, it's also it's summertime, you know, like you can go sit on the set up like we're talking about. Right. So when winter hits, yeah, here's a really funny thing that people don't know and it's funny watching people on the internet freak out like largely what I think Alex Jones is doing. When it rains, your viewership goes up. So when there's like news report, how much of this that means it's Ian's fault. If the no, he admitted today that he can't control. He said that he conducts it, which is just him thinking that he's slick. So if you get a heavy rain on the East Coast, viewership is through the roof, duh. If it rains for a week, when the rain stops, your viewership goes to the gutter a few years ago, like six, six, seven years ago, we got a, we got about two weeks of rain nonstop in May all across the East Coast. It was nuts. And then it was like Wednesday when the rain broke. And I saw a post after post of people being like, I don't know why like my views are down. I had people texting me. My views were down. Like normally I was getting, you know, like a couple hundred thousand. I got like 80,000. I was like, man, it's one of these days. And so I was like, let's go get food. And we, we, me and a couple of friends, we got a car went to the diner. Every single restaurant was full with a wait list like a half an hour. Yeah. The rain broke and everyone wanted to go outside finally. And so they're like sitting on patios and no one's going to be sitting around watching videos. You got, you got to check for environmental factors in what makes a person want to watch. This is a nice content. Vinman lost night and Donald Trump tweeted about it. Sleeze bag women. There's a tonight's a radical left lunatic. How cool is that president DJ T. I think I mean, Vinman lost to a DS to the DSA candidate. And the like, dear white staffers are tweeting about it. They're saying, you know, we're done with the, the resistance slop and blah, blah, blah, blah. So it's, it's, it's a fairly big deal that because I guess Vinman had a lot of money dumped into his campaigns. Stuff of the establishment. Yep. But the it's nice to see the, the CIA candidate's loose. Oh, and, and Vinman lost to the DSA. Yeah. Yeah. The DSA candidate only spent like 200 K or something. Yeah. Vinman, Vinman's like the poster child of like, resist live. Yeah. So Corey Mills lost. Yeah, Corey Mills lost. I can't say I'm surprised. Yeah. Well, he's a, but with Vinman losing, I think that that that does point to the, you know, it does say something about the, the civil war in the, in the Democrats over the DSA. I think this is like the ultimate hole in the scalp up kind of moment, months of zoom. The, the DSA is likely, I mean, at the very least, the Democrats are now going to be negotiating with the DSA from a position. Oh, there, a few polls that came out showing the DSA is another dominant faction of the Democratic Party. Yeah. This is like, this is like 2018 GOP where I think the old guard is kind of having to accept that mag is here to stay. And I said it, the DSA was going to take over the Democrats because the Democrats have no defense against the far left. So this one Trump backed Corey Mills, huh? This is the future of the Democrat Party. And yeah, Trump backed Corey Mills. Um, he had some kind of, some kind of legal issue or something going on. Some kind of scandal that, that hurt his, his campaign. I don't, I don't see it right here or long, but Corey Mills. Yeah. Uh, it was like a domestic Oh, Byron one, huh? Yes, Byron one. Let's go. Oh, there was like an investigation over like domestic assault. And then there was like the whole revenge porn. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, shout out to guys like Ryan Gerdusky, who were like, son of the alarm on this guy. Yeah. They were like, this guy is clearly kind of crazy. Yeah. To your, uh, the fishback James fishback, he lost badly. And he's already blaming a pack, but I don't think that a pack really gets involved in governor's races. Yeah. I mean, it's like a putch ended up performing better than a fishback and putch ran like a pretty bad campaign. I mean, we had fishback on before he announced and he was, he was nice and he was like, it was before he kind of really came out as a groter kind of dude, which, you know, sure how much you, I don't know how much he actually believes that stuff because I think that he was just trying to, like, throw his lot in with young people and young people are so anti-Israel and and stuff. But he was talking about being anti, um, data center. He was very leftist kind of stuff. Even if he went through like kind of this, like the online populism route, which is just like not electorally viable, but he did do pretty well with young people. And I mean, if you saw the rallies, he was doing well with young people. So like, I don't know, I think consultants should pay attention to that. And so far as like that energy is something and that should be like investigated. But I think, yeah, fishback, he probably could have advocated that primary bit better because people don't like Donald's. Like, Donald's is pretty hated by a lot of people. Um, so I think fishback, you know, he did have this opportunity. And like early on when he first announced he was crushing and the polls actually was doing quite well. Um, but then he started doing the like treadcalf larp thing and people Yeah, the whole I say people see right through putting whether or not his relationship was genuine with the that woman that he met and got married. It's weird. It's like, it's just kind of weird and off putting so like when you like kind of like when I was coming through his policy position, I was like, this is interesting. He's pretty funny and whatnot. Uh, but he was like fighting for young people. But then he was like giving a full-thirty endorsement of like abolishing property taxes in Florida. And I'm like, that's like the one thing that actually does like manifest in policy that's going to screw over young people. So it's like, it's kind of it's like, okay, it's easy to take these like grandiose stances and things that will never happen. But like on actual things that are happening in Florida right now that you could take a stand on. Do you think that very many young people are aware of that though? Well, no, that's the point is like they're voting for like aesthetic. So there's energy there. But in so far as like translating that to actual victories for like young Americans, it's like nothing. It's kind of manifest. It's like, okay, you can be like super based online. But when it comes on a brass tax, like how are you actually going to help young people? What can you actually implement or what policy changes can you prevent that will actually help young people get a foot in the door? That was a bit lacking. Yeah. But he did really well with young people. You get 28 point. I mean, fishback got 463,000 votes. And I would, if you look at the cross tabs, he probably crushed with the under 35s. Because he kind of ran his like his social media strategy was quite interesting. It was kind of like right wing Zoran in some ways. And so far as like he was very in front of the camera, like engaging with the voters. But yeah, the cocktail of policies were like not going to like when you were primary, especially when you're dealing with old people, like they really don't like the, yeah, the trad Catholic harp and like the the super online coded presentation is just unfortunately not going to fare too well for you. We're going to go to your rumble rants and super chats. So smash that like button share the show with everyone you've ever met in your life. Every single person you might ever meet in the future. When you walk up to a stranger on the street and they're like, "Hey, that's a nice check." And you go, "Oh, thank you. Did you watch Tim Castile Row last night?" And I'll be like, "Never heard of it, but thank you for telling me. You've made my life better." All right, AK Storm says, "Tim at 907 Honest on X has more information on Alaska and R-C-V. He'd be a great interview on how Alaska is being rigged to turn blue. I imagine he can call in to Tate's show." That'd be great. So what's going on in Alaska is that they're a Democrat. He's a registered as a Republican now named Dan Sullivan is running as a spoiler in the primary. It's a jungle primary. So this means Dan Sullivan the incumbent. You're going to go to vote and there's going to be four candidates. And it's going to be Dan Sullivan, Dan Sullivan. And it's going to confuse people because they don't know which one they're voting for. This is going to result in Dan Sullivan, the actual incumbent, not reaching the threshold for the jungle primary. So he won't be on the general election later this year. It is evil. What the Democrats are doing in Alaska. It is evil. But hey, that's politics in this country right now. And if you think it's fine, I just ask you, what do you think happens to a country whose political system is knowledge of it? Anyway, Glitchyboy says, "When are we getting Tate's own line of cast brew? I need some sweet, sweet brown brew." Brown, brown. There used to be, um, there's like a lot of brown ale back in the day. Well, to be honest, we have so many different varieties right now. It's got to be something. Yeah, because we were supposed to, we got to do, we were going to do the anarchist one with Michael Malis. We got to do one with Jason Ellis. And it's really difficult to have like 73 different blends. So I think what we need to do is actually probably start rotating them out. Yeah. So like, we'll do like three specialty blends, you know, per quarter or something, you know, like once a month season. Do a hot chocolate blend, maybe that could work. Yeah, like we've had the Christmas one up indefinitely from Phil. It's about three years now, right? Something like that, yeah. Well, Sam, can you believe how long it's been? I mean, we're going on four years and we've been on the show. That's crazy. It's all rolling in. Ryan Hudson has pledged eight cents on an X money for the debate, the Alex Jones debate. Eight cents. Yeah, we're getting closer to that 300,000. Eight cents. Something chip. Uh, okay. We'll do the debate. We'll, we'll charge $300 per ticket. And I don't know we're going to debate because, you know, I don't know we disagree on, I guess, so it's two hours of a green. Yeah, he's going to be like, I think APEC should register as a foreign agent. What do you say to that? I'd be like, I agree. Oh, well, Alex very well. I think that they're influencing our elections. I'm like, Oh, yeah, I just spent a lot of money on APEC. That's crazy. Well said. Yes. Repoignant. Oh, maybe he can just be a heartfelt reunion. Yeah. I think the challenge with that is he'd be staring at me through the, through the bottom of bottle of Tito's. So yeah. All right. Same old man says, Tim, the only move to victory with Iran is to destroy it utterly. Islamists will not give up until they are gone. So the other ways take control of Hormuz. I was pretty crazy that Tucker Carlson is like, Islam's actually not bad, actually. And we're all kind of like, huh, that's an interesting new opinion for Tucker. Yeah. I disagree. Yeah. Yeah, especially after what I heard tonight. Yeah. I'm not sure that that's actually Islam or as much as I think you could convert the Afghans any religion, you would probably get a similar result. I mean, the Hades like not really that great of a, they don't behave very well. And that's like a 90% Christian country. Some people just behave certain ways. It's Christian with a lot. It's Christian with a lot of voodoo mixed in. Yeah. It's the unfortunate red pillar. All right. Medic Nathan says in accordance with tradition, my wife and three sons welcome baby Noel to the world tonight. Congratulations. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Christmas coming up. So go ahead and get the Christmas burner for your babies. Great. We need you on the front lines. Get in the arena. Let's go. Welcome. All right. Alhefe Lopez says USA is currently late stage Roman Roman Roman Roman Republic. One could argue even we have entered early Roman Empire stage after 9/11. I agree. Once you start trying to tax, you know, trying to bring people in so you can tax them, you know, you know what I think our problem is here at Tim Kest. What's that? What? You know, people just want to have a good time. Yeah. And we're so serious. I was thinking. But the problem is people don't know when to have a good time. We have to tell them. We have to tell them when to have a good time. So let's try this. Let's see. Quantum Strange Cork says, Tim, your early report about rep Dan Sullivan Alaska reminded me of Jack Johnson and John Jackson from Futurama. Look. Perfect. I love that. I've never seen Futurama. That's gotta be good. That's gotta be where it is. John Jackson and Jack. Wow. I love that. We have a studio audience, but we had a like firearm pointed out of them so they couldn't laugh until now. It's not true for YouTube guideline purposes. It's not true. Let's see. Christopher even says, we are not at war with Iran. We are in a proxy war with Russia and China. That's a good one. That's a good one. Good. So when we first started the show, we actually did have a soundtrack, a soundtrack, a sound board. And so we had Eric Swallow farting when he would go cheat, collection, cheat. And so like whenever we brought up like things related to illegal immigrants and voting, we'd like press the button. And then we had Greta Tuenberg going, how dare you? How dare you? How dare you? You know, maybe we need a little bit of that back, you know. Well, I only have a little stream deck. So I only have one button to press. I can get a bigger one here. I don't know if we actually need to do a live track. All right. Let's see. Jeffrey Paritas says, both of you have dedicated your lives to what was once a beautiful political media movement. Just think if Charlie Kirk could see us now, Alex. Alex went full queen Candace mode with Egyptian planes. Yep. John Kristen says, Alex Jones, Clint Russell, Lauren Southern is a multi-angled attack. I just think that they're like Alex Jones doesn't know. It could all just be that they're they're grifters. You know what I mean? Crowder was making that point about Lauren Southern. Here's what I said of Lauren Southern, like a year ago she accused Tommy Robinson of smuggling cocaine in a plane and blasting it off in a bathroom. And that Andrew Tate had raped her. And Tommy Robinson, of course, refuted that saying that's insane, like he wasn't doing drugs. I think it was time Robinson in the plane with drugs. It's been a long time. So I could be wrong. But he was like, Lauren was hanging out with him, asked to go back and hang out them, got a ride to go hang out with him, went up to his hotel room with him. And the next day gave him a kiss goodbye. Like, and then I said, yeah, you know, look, I've been friends with Lauren for a long time, but I just find the story hard to believe. And she wanted to turn it into drama and beef for clicks. But not in person, apparently, you know, not not when we're having dinner together for several hours. Clint Russell has been just making things up about me because he gets retweets for it. You know, because these people are, I don't know, like it's probably a reason why they're they're lower tier personalities. And I'm not saying lower tier as a disrespectful thing. I'm like, obviously, my show is bigger than their shows, you know, maybe there's a reason why Tim Castile is so big. And we've got this massive multi-million dollar compound and with escape park in it. You know, like we make stupid amounts of money. That's not a humble brag. It's just maybe when you actually have like a consistent through line of what motivates you, you will do better in business. And that was kind of the point that I was making with Alex. And maybe this is what really changed with Alex is, you know, he just doesn't have the backing anymore. He doesn't have enough critical massive allies. So the point I was making is like CNN, CNN did news forever. And then when Trump came around, they decided to stop doing news and start complaining about Trump. That's when I turned it off and I never turned it back on. I used to I had a projector in my room when we had the studio in Jersey because it was this it was this room with tall ceilings. So on one wall, it was just like a 10 by, you know, it was like a 10 by 16 or whatever. Actually, I think it might have been like a 16 by 9. Foot screen and CNN would be on 24/7. I would wake up with CNN playing and it was bad for the projector, you know. And then I would be sitting on my computer pulling up stories and it would be on to my left. I watched the 2020 debates with that. And one day, I called it the Fox News Challenge on Instagram. You can scroll the way far, far down to the bottom and find it. I was like, there's news in a run. There's a rep, there's protests. You switched to Fox News. They're talking about war and conflict and news. You switched to CNN. Trump is bad. So what happened was I'm sitting at my chair and I hear them just saying Trump is bad for this reason. And I was just kind of like, I'm looking at these these posts on Twitter of like crazy stuff happening and I'm like, what are they doing? Like, this is not news. And so I switched it. And I don't want to watch Fox News. And then after a little while, I switched it back. And then the next day, there was like a major storm. A hurricane was hitting somewhere. And I look at the CNN. Trump is bad. And I got really angry. And then I switched to Fox News. And I never switched it back. Because it's just, it's just, they stopped being news. So when their ratings collapsed and they became a brand worth nothing, and they're getting traded back and forth, I won't make a crude joke about that because nobody wants to watch it. If you're, if you open an ice cream shop and you're there for years and [BLANK_AUDIO] knows your name and get the best ice cream in town. And then one day you decide ice cream is bad for people so you're going vegan. People will show up. Don't ever come back. That's the reality. So these people that have changed their positions and just said, you know what, I'm going to attack and pool. I'm going to change my opinions. Don't be surprised when you lose audience. If you're going to do that, my recommendation started a new YouTube channel. So we're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show right now, smash the like button, share the show with all your friends. You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast. Sir, do you want to shout anything out? Yes, go to veteranaction.org. Click on the take action button and encourage your members of Congress to support the take care of America's Veterans Act. This will provide veterans better access to health care, which I think will ultimately save veterans lives right on. Follow me on X and Instagram at Real Tape Brown can give me a follow come hang out and don't send me more X money because I can't shout out two cents. It's not it's not viable. 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