Trump Admits Mass Deportations and Building the Wall Was All a Total Scam. Tucker Responds.

It's hard to remember now, but people mocked Ronald Reagan, and in fact, expressed what seemed like genuine alarm about Ronald Reagan, based on his age when he was president. Ronald Reagan was the oldest man at the time to serve as president of the United States. He was 77 when he left office, of course he died of Alzheimer's. But even while he was president, people accused him of having Alzheimer's. He was seen as very, very, very old. Well, 40 years ago this week, Ronald Reagan was in his second term, two years into it. It was right after the midterm elections. Of course, that year, 1986, in which Republicans did very badly, Ronald Reagan was 75 years old at the time. And this is not widely remembered, but it was that year, 40 years ago this week that Ronald Reagan signed an amnesty bill, probably the first in American history, that gave amnesty legal status to people who had been breaking the law, basically wiped away their crimes, sort of as if by magic, a stroke of a pen, and put them on what we now refer to as a path to citizenship, it legalized them, about three million people. People who are living here legally and thanks to Ronald Reagan signing this, they were on their way to becoming citizens. And people don't remember it, in part, because history records Ronald Reagan as a terrifyingly right-wing president. And by the second year of his second term, he'd been hearing that, well, for six years. Ronald Reagan is a racist, because you may not remember this, he began his national presidential campaign in 1980 near a town called Philadelphia, Mississippi, where three civil rights workers famously had been murdered during the civil rights movement in the 1960s. It wasn't actually in Philadelphia, not to relitigate all this 46 years later, but it was very meaningful at the time. And Ronald Reagan began his first term as president with every headline in the country calling him a racist, and they kept it up, well, almost the entire time he was president. So six years in, Ronald Reagan had been called a racist, a fascist, a Nazi, every single day for six years, and he was probably a little tired of it. In part because whatever Ronald Reagan was, he was not actually very right-wing, at least on the social issues, it was Ronald Reagan who signed the second legalized abortion law in the United States. A few months after Colorado signed its law legalizing abortion in 1967, Ronald Reagan legalized abortion in the state of California. He's not remembered for that. In fact, AI probably won't even tell you that, but it's a fact. Ronald Reagan was an abortion pioneer, legalizing abortion in the country's biggest state. Ronald Reagan was also married to a liberal woman and had a liberal daughter and was, as just noted, demonstrably liberal in the social issues. You wouldn't have known that unless you paid close attention because again, he was constantly being attacked as a Nazi and too old. And so it's possible that six years in to his term as president, he just kind of gave up and signed the biggest amnesty bill in American history. Ronald Reagan is really kind of the father of radical demographic change in this country. In any case, we thought it'd be interesting to look back 40 years to the week at Ronald Reagan signing amnesty for 3 million illegal aliens. Here he is. This bill, the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 that I'll sign in a few minutes, is the most comprehensive reform of our immigration laws since 1952. It's the product of one of the longest and most difficult legislative undertakings in the last three congresses. Further, it's an excellent example of a truly successful bipartisan effort. The administration and the allies of immigration reform on both sides of the capital and both sides of the aisle worked together to accomplish these critically important reforms to control illegal immigration. Distance has not discouraged illegal immigration to the United States from all around the globe. The problem of illegal immigration should not therefore be seen as a problem between the United States and its neighbors. Our objective is only to establish a reasonable, fair, orderly and secure system of immigration into this country and not to discriminate in any way against particular nations or people. Future generations of Americans will be thankful for our efforts to humanely regain control of our borders, and thereby preserve the value of one of the most sacred possessions of our people, American citizenship. Well, the first thing you notice, he doesn't seem that old really, certainly by modern standards. Again, he was 75 when he gave that speech, some say he had Alzheimer's as he gave it. And yet he was still younger than at least 10 current sitting, or in some cases, slumping members of the United States Senate who are much older than Ronald Reagan was. And of course, our current president is 80, five years older than Ronald Reagan was. In any case, if you listen to what he just said, he said, this is actually this bill to provide amnesty to people breaking federal law is actually an effort to stop illegal immigration. He said that multiple times future generations will thank us for securing our borders and preserving the value of American citizenship. So the reason to play something like that, the reason to watch that, apart from its inherently historical interest, is to measure the promises of the time against the reality of the present. And there is a big divide between the two. Of course, 40 years later, citizenship is barely recognized as a concept by states and municipalities across the country. And perhaps coming soon by the federal government, people who are not citizens who are foreign and foreign nationals, people who are citizens of other countries, but here illegally get to vote in elections across the country. Not in federal elections, but in state and local elections. Did the amnesty law of 1986 reduce illegal immigration? Well, let's see. At the time there, and of course no one ever knows exactly how many illegal aliens are in the country at any one time because they don't register. And for some reason, in a nation that has really led the world in counting things and creating metrics in measuring everything that is based on the scientific method of measuring things, we can't seem to measure within like 10 million, the number of illegal aliens in the country. Sort of weird. Flot cameras aren't helping at all. But in any case, it was about 3.2 million illegal aliens in the country estimated when Ronald Reagan signed that law. He gave amnesty to basically all of them. Today, 40 years later, we have, well, let's see. So the liberal pro immigration groups claim there may be 15 million illegal aliens in the country. The Trump administration says at various times that there are 25 million, they do run the governments. They might have some sense. Other times they say there are 50 million people here illegally. Greg Bavino, who was the commander in charge of the border patrol, whose job it was to keep track of these things, just said recently there are 100 million illegal aliens in this country. So whatever it is, whether it's anywhere between 15, the low estimate, 100, the high estimate, there are a lot more illegal aliens in this country than there were in 1986 when Ronald Reagan signed the law designed to secure our border and end illegal immigration. And this has been much written about subsequently in those 40 years. But that law giving amnesty to people who were under the shadow of the law before it was signed. In other words, they were breaking the law and they knew it and so did everybody else. Making them legal did not end illegal immigration. It inspired massive waves of it. And then the perhaps inevitable demographic change that followed. So when Reagan signed that in 1986, the United States had a population of about 240 million people. Today, again, we can only guess because the one thing we're not good at counting is who lives here, but it looks like the United States has a population of about 350 million people. So that's a huge increase in people, more than 100 million people in 40 years in a finite amount of space and certainly a finite amount of infrastructure. So by legalizing 3 million, you got tens of millions more. And if you think about it, considering the state of the American birth rate, which the higher you hike immigration, the lower the birth rate goes and it's very low at this point below replacement, it seems very obvious that the majority of people included in that increase of 110 million, the majority of them are foreign born. And that means that the country has turned over completely. And the bottom line numbers tell you that. So when Reagan signed that, the United States was about, I don't know, 80% white, 81 I think, just out about half the state of California. Then as now our biggest state where Reagan was from, he was the governor, of course, famously of California, the state of California was about 70% white when he signed that. And now it's in the range of about 30%. So that's a big change, whether you welcome it or not. But there are all kinds of other changes, which may or may not be connected to that observation that are not welcomed by anybody. It had relatively little poverty in 1986. Now it's got an above average amount of poverty and if you drive through certain parts of it, it's all on display because there are hundreds of thousands of people living on the street. Not all of that is a result of immigration, but you can't say that stuffing the state with people from foreign countries have made it a better state because that's just not true. That combined with probably other phenomena have made it a much poorer and more dysfunctional state. And Reagan signed that was only 1986, not that long ago, the majority of public school students in the state of California, like the majority of the population were white. Now, it's about 20% now part of the reason for that is the absolute decline in white people in California and in America by far. The fastest shrinking group in the country by far, but also it's a measure of the failure of California schools. So California had above average, in some cases, top performing schools nationwide around the time Ronald Reagan signed that bill. And now California has some of the worst schools in the country. And the test scores, though they can't quite be compared to each other because this test has been completely changed in an effort to hide the declining educational attainment of students, you can still play with the numbers a little bit and find out that the bottom line truth is fewer California students can read or do basic math than could 40 years ago, a lot fewer. And far fewer go to school, the absentee rate in California school is almost 20%. It's like a fifth of the class just doesn't show up. So the state in a lot of ways, certainly at the public end, services for the public, the things that everybody gets, roads, education, power. If you're not rich, the things that you rely on, in every category, the state has become well, a lot more like the countries from which its population came. No one wants to hear that, but is there another explanation? That's just true. Sudden downpours are only threatening if you're not prepared for them. Nobody wants to be caught in a torrential rain wearing just a t-shirt. What happens when a storm strikes without warning even the best rain coat is useless if it's sitting at home in your closet? So avoiding that exact scenario is possible with bear skin's hoodie. The bear skin hoodie and rain jacket combo guarantees you're ready for any weather no matter what. 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So if you don't have a language unifying the country, well, the country in the end probably falls apart or lives in a state of soft civil war like, I don't know, Belgium or Canada. There are tons of examples. They can't live in harmony a country that doesn't have a common language and it doesn't. Civil wars start over language all the time and they always have. So leaving aside the race question and even the income question, any economic question, at a core level, how does your nation hang together depends probably more than anything else on what language people speak. And unfortunately the Reagan Amistie of 1986 has been followed by an explosion of languages. And not just languages that people use at home, which seems legitimate, but languages that people use in public and that the government at the state level and at the federal level used it to communicate with them. So for example, in the city of Los Angeles, election materials, and we actually have the list because it's hard to believe this was real, are now provided in 23 different languages. Where are the languages that the county of Los Angeles, the biggest county in the state of California, uses to disseminate election materials, Armenian, Bengali, Burmese, Chinese, Cambodian, Camar, Farsi, Filipino, Gujarati, Hindi, Indonesian, Japanese, Korean, Mongolian, Russian, Spanish, Thai, Vietnamese, etc. So the question becomes, why would you educate people and give them voting instructions? In a language that is not the majority language in the country. In other words, you're asking people to run a government that operates in a different language from the one they speak. How can they weigh in in a meaningful way? How are they part of the system if they don't speak the language? And no one has bothered to answer that question because it's almost never asked. In fact, the last time anyone in the Senate asked him that question, he was immediately denounced by Chuck Schumer, the then Senate Majority Leader as a racist, despite the fact that language and race are completely different things, but in any case, the explosion of immigration into this country has been overwhelming in absolute terms. Very few countries in history have had a turnover demographically as quick as the one we've lived through for 40 years, but it has also been accompanied by a total unwillingness to think through basic questions like, how do we not have a civil war? And in fact, if you think about it, if you stick three steps back, the people pushing it, well, it's hard to know motive, seem to be motivated by a desire to break the country into smaller pieces, really to atomize it, to make sure that there is no common anything, no language, no culture, no religion, no race, just a bunch of individuals living in apartments on public assistance, taking orders. I mean, not to be conspiracy minded about it, but in every single turn, there has been an explicit effort to make certain that people aren't united in any common thing, that there's no working majority of anything, and almost seems like a divide in conquer strategy, just saying it is recognizable in that way, but in any case, it has happened. And then the final and most obvious effect that we used to talk about what really do now, the mass migration into the United States that followed Ronald Reagan's 1986 Amnesty Act, certainly his liberal wife and daughter were congratulating him after, and of course, he didn't live to see the consequences, as elderly leaders never do. But one of the consequences could have been foreseen, and that was that total collapse in wages for people at the bottom end of the labor market. And the reason that previous generations would have understood this is because immigration was always, always understood to be a response to labor needs, and the core tension was between employers who wanted more workers, so they would have to pay less because supply and demand never changes if you got more of something. Its value falls, it's why grains of sand are cheap. If you have more workers, you don't have to pay them as much, but in a tight labor market with fewer workers, you have to pay them more. And what employer wants to pay more? So it was pressure from employers in 1986 and in 1965, and the turn of the last century at any point in American history in the 1840s, where you've seen big waves of migration come to the US, it was always employers who pushed for it because they wanted lower wages. This is not a mystery, and it's the main reason the immigration restriction of 1924, the act that kind of ended. did migration into the United States, well for 40 years, was pushed by the labor unions. Not because they were racist, didn't want any more people from Eastern or Central Europe. In fact, they were run in large part by people from Eastern and Central Europe. No, I didn't do anything to do with race, it had to do with economics. If you have more of something, it's worth less and that includes labor. So what has been the effect of this mass migration into the United States migration so mass, so vast kind of resembles an invasion, that's just true based on the numbers. What's been the effect on labor markets? Well, you may already know the answer, which is for high school educated men, they have been stagnant, for white American born men of all kinds, they have been stagnant. White American born women have done pretty well. White American born men have not. And among black men, American born, not immigrants from Africa, but people who were born here, usually descendants of slaves, their wages have gone down over 40 years. And that shouldn't surprise anybody. So that bill, which Reagan told us would end illegal immigration, actually sparked a lot more of it, 30x illegal immigration, blew the population to 110 million more people at least in 40 years without building a new interstate highway system, or a brand new power grid, basically the same infrastructure for 120 million new people. And it completely shafted the group that we now refer to as Trump voters. And so if you think about it, maybe for like 10 seconds, it's not that surprising that the people who voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020 and 2024 did because they were overwhelmingly in the group whose wages had remained stagnant for 40 years, thanks to immigration. 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So given that, what we saw on 60 minutes and somebody was a little bit surprising or was it, well, we'll let you decide whether you're shocked by this or not. But here is President Donald Trump days after losing in the -- because landslide probably in our lifetimes in the midterm elections when the Republican Party was repudiated up and down, lost the House and the Senate by huge margins, lost seats in states that no one ever imagined were at play. Kansas, Mississippi, Alabama, total blowout. And the question was like, how is Trump going to respond to this? Will he be defiant? Where was his actual response? For getting people out, I get very high marks for getting the bad ones out, but I get hurt because we also took people that had good jobs, that created one violation, or breaking of the law. That was that they came into the country illegally. Now, there is a large part of the country that I think that they should be put out, and there's a large part of the country that I think that they should be allowed to stay. If they're good people working in a landscaping company, or working in a hotel, or doing something, right? And in some cases, paying taxes, and there's a large group of people think that they should be allowed to stay. So -- So you think your deportation policy went too far? It was too tough. I think it might be too tough, yeah. And a lot of people would say that it's great, but a lot of people think it's too tough. And I think -- Well, the deal look like the government. Certainly that hurt me. I think it -- well, the deal would be -- we would work something out, and I think it's something -- I think that's something that's actually doable. But you think the Democratic Party right now has people in it who would be interested in this kind of deal? I think so, yeah. People have already called me. Yeah, people have already called me about doing the deal, about doing the one thing, well, after starting regime change wars in the Middle East, that I said I would never do, which is give amnesty to a number I've described as tens of millions of people here illegally, but we've already been talking about it, Trump says -- so what is this exactly? Well, those who know Trump know exactly what it is. And this is not a reflection of his deep desire to change the demographics of America, probably not. He is after all a racist, remember? No. What it likely is is Trump's deepest desire, which is to be liked by other people. And so stung by a nationwide rejection in the midterm elections, Trump casts about for someone who might like him and finds the Democratic Party and decides maybe we can make a deal. Maybe if I do the one thing that you want me to do, which is offer amnesty to tens of millions of people and thereby ensure that you will run this country forever, because they're all going to vote for Democrats, of course. That's how California, by the way, went from a state that elected Ronald Reagan and Pete Wilson and George Duke Magin, a state in which Bill Clinton lost in 1992 to the most reliable Democratic state out of 50, and it's because of immigration, because there are different people there. It was 70 percent white, now 30 percent, it's kind of that simple. And the Democrats know that because they're unlike the Republicans, not stupid, and they lie to themselves a little bit less. In any case, Trump looks around and he says, "Who could possibly like me?" Well, my own party's mad at me because I betrayed them and everything, and so he just moves instinctively as a cold animal does to the fire toward the warmth of acceptance and he wound up endorsing the one thing he said he would never do. So if you're shocked by this, if you're shocked by this betrayal, you probably haven't been paying close attention because actually, at almost every single point for the past six years that he has held power, Donald Trump went under pressure, has moved in exactly this direction. You smack him hard enough, and all of a sudden he starts offering his enemies the one thing that they want that will certainly destroy him. It's a tick of his personality, but those who've watched him are very familiar with it. Charlie Kirk saw this coming, and he saw this coming at exactly the moment that Trump, in the first two years of his second term, was under the most pressure, and that was during the period when he had unleashed what we now know was the prelude to the regime change war, but it was the war to eliminate Iran's nuclear program. And as that whole debate was going on, Charlie Kirk in this clip saw what was going on beneath the surface. Watch this. Literally, the day before President Donald Trump was signing the big, beautiful bill. I got a couple phone calls from people that you would call members of the ruling class. A lot of money and a lot of connections. They said, "Charlie isn't this amazing. We passed the big, beautiful bill." I said, "Oh, yes, sir." And they said, "Now, we need mass amnesty." What? I said, "We haven't even signed the bill yet." They said, "Yeah, you know, these deportations, we're going to lose the midterms because of the deportations. The people on the right, they'll understand. And we need to come to the middle, and we need to legalize the 25 million people here in this country." I was speechless. So we don't know any details, but it looks as if President Trump might be in preliminary discussions, and I could tell you that there are many different discussions that I've had with people, and they are pushing it hard to create some kind of amnesty proposal aimed specifically at farm laborers in the United States, but it's more than that. It could be hotels, it could be leisure properties. If you want to break our coalition, go and push amnesty. That right there would be a complete collapse of everything that we have worked for, everything. Farm labor. It always starts with farm labor. We need to farm. Who's going to pick the crops? There are still crops that are picked by hand. Not that many. No grain is picked by hand, of course, but increasingly the world is mechanized. I mean, it's true when you go to a convenience store and you check yourself out, and it's true if you're harvesting. sugar cane, for example, 1986, when Reagan signed his bill, and of course it was heavily geared toward the ag sector, which we need. It's a national security question. No Americans going to pick a crop, obviously, because they're lazy. When that bill was signed about two-thirds of all sugar cane cut in this country was cut by hand by sugar cane workers. You remember that? Pauling conditions, living near Lake Okeechobee. Now, how much sugar cane is cut by hand? Oh, about zero. In the United States, about zero, even in Brazil, another huge sugar producer. Basically zero. It's all mechanized. And that's true for a bunch of different segments of the agricultural sector. So actually, the labor needs have reduced across the board, not just an ag, but across the country. We need less labor. But the press for amnesty and for more immigration remains undiminished, kind of amazing. And we'll get into why that is. What could possibly motivate that? It doesn't make any sense. But before we do, just a reminder that no one is for this. Now, there are some who are ideologically possessed on the subject. And they think that any immigration restriction is racist and white supremacist and etc. etc. If you're against immigration, you were racist. That's a pretty small group. Actually, with no working majority of anything, it's a now multi-racial country for better or for worse. That's not changing. Most people, including the majority of Hispanic men who voted for Donald Trump, are not against immigration because of the race of the people. They're against it because it undercuts their wages. It puts strain on their services. It makes their cities less manageable, less orderly. It makes the country poor. There's no economic justification, of course, for mass migration. In 2026, zero. It's not good for them. It's not good for anybody. And almost everybody is against it. Even the people who claim they're not against it and who parade around telling you, you know, they're getting their housekeeper agreeing card and they're good people and they're not racist. Well, they're all now living in Jackson, Hawaii. Oh, man. Well, why? Because there's no diversity there. That's why. So on some level, everyone agrees with this. This has not been good. It hasn't helped anybody, even recent immigrants are against it. Even the majority of Hispanic men are against it. And again, it was on the basis of this pledge. I'm going to end this that Trump got elected just two years ago. So in case you've forgotten what he said about his plans and immigration, here's a quick selection from, well, weeks before he won that election. Watch immediately upon taking the oath of office, I will launch the largest deportation program in American history. And I will rescue every town across America that's been invaded and conquered. These towns have been conquered. When I return to the White House, we will stop the plunder, rapes, slaughter and destruction of our American suburbs and cities and towns. We will begin the largest domestic deportation operation in the history of our country. We have no choice. The United States is now an occupied country, but it will soon be an occupied country no longer. November 5th, 2024 will be Liberation Day in America. And during day one, I will launch the largest deportation program in American history. To keep our family safe, the Republican platform promises to launch the largest deportation operation in the history of our country. I will rescue every city and town that has been invaded and conquered. And we will put these vicious and bloodthirsty criminals in jail. We're going to kick them the hell out of our country as fast as possible. We're going to deport everybody. And it was on that pledge. Everyone here illegally, not just people who criticize the Israeli government who have legitimate green cards, but people who are here illegally are going to be deported. Did he mean it? Well, let's just check the numbers. As of right now, as of tonight, which is on or about November 11th, 2026, Donald Trump has deported fewer people than Barack Obama did in his second term. Well, you say that's unfair. That's kind of Obama's entire second term versus just the first half of Trump's second term. Fair. But the pace is lower, which is to say if Trump deports as many people in the next two years as he has in the first two years, if he doesn't, as he just promised in the 60 minutes, you just slow it way down. But if he keeps it up at the same racist breakneck pace, he will at the end of this term have deported fewer people than Barack Obama did in his second term. And that's Barack Obama, who was ideologically committed to the project of changing the demographics of the United States to ensure the continued dominance of his party, the Democratic party. He's deported fewer people than Barack Obama. That's just a fact. And by the way, if you really believed that opening up the borders during the Biden administration, letting 50 million people into the country illegally or whatever the number was, tens of millions of people, then of course, you would at least have hearings into the people who did it. That would be Alejandro Mayorkas of the Department of Homeland Security. And that would be Mayor Garland, the former Attorney General. Where are they? Not before Congress answering questions and how they did that. Not one person that we're aware of from the previous administration has ever even been forced to answer the question under oath. Why did you do that? And how was it done? How did all these people get from South America across the daring gap in Panama to Mexico and then into San Diego County? Like who abetted that? Who paid for that? Who paid for all the flights into the United States? We still don't know. And you would think that the people who run our vast law enforcement agencies and our intel agencies for that matter, people in the West Wing would get to the bottom of that question who paid for all this. Somebody did. But they haven't. And so that should have been a sign. Just like failure to release the Epstein files should have been a sign. They're not actually going to drain the swamp or return the country to what it was, which is a country in which people are subject to the law, regardless of their race. Where's the where they're from? Everybody has to obey the law. And there's a penalty for ignoring the law. You don't get a pass just because you're from another country. How does that work exactly? But they were never serious about it. 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The Democrats can't possibly vote for it, but the fact is the most famous immigration restrictionist in American history, the person who gave speeches like the ones whose snippets we just showed you, the guy who made the case against changing the country completely and made the case against illegal immigration. The rapists are not sending their best, that guy. That guy has just said out loud that he was too mean. This is the fruit of lower testosterone levels in old age. You start listening to the liberal chicks in your orbit, trying to please them instead of doing the right thing, oh, my liberal daughter. One area I'm which Reagan and Trump have a lot in common, both loved by Neocons as well. But in any case, that guy has just seated the game. He's just admitted that he's wrong. He's just moved the marker, whatever the opposite of expanding the over 10 window is. It's now the over 10 poor hole. He's basically said anybody who wants to enforce federal law is a baddie, he's mean, really. Does that apply to us, the rest of us? Do we not have to follow federal law now? Because if you think about it, not only is granting amnesty to millions and millions and millions, and by the way, what is the number, Trump didn't suggest it, but by his own estimate that could be 50 million people getting amnesty. But whatever the number is, some huge population is being told in public, no, you don't have to follow federal law, it doesn't apply to you. You get a pass like, that's forgotten, never mind now. And that, of course, is discouraging to the rest of us who felt that we had some obligation, legal if no other to follow federal law, he got a follow federal law, it's the law, kind of Anglo understanding of nations, it's the law, follow the law, I believe in the law. But at a certain point, it doesn't just discourage people and make them cynical, it provokes real questions like, why am I doing this, why am I paying my taxes, like, why should I do that? They don't have to, why can't I vape on airplanes? Seriously, why do I have to have a driver's license for that matter? Because millions of people who are using fake social security cards and birth certificates and passports and driver's licenses are all being told they don't, it doesn't matter. No one's being penalized for it, in fact, they're being rewarded for it. Everyone else around the world who wants to come here, has to stand in line in some embassy and get treated like garbage by a disinterested State Department employee. But these people just show up here, take federal benefits, and they're rewarded for it. So like, what am I doing? There are states Illinois, for example, you could be fine thousands of dollars for speeding. It was just a revenue-raising technique, same as cigarette taxes, they don't actually care about your safety, they wouldn't be giving you the mRNA shot if they did. Oh, it's about raising money. Well, scolding you. And you could sort of see what's going on, but then the question is, well, why am I participating in this? So I get pulled over for speeding in the state of Illinois and the Corpulum Governor, things he can stick me, try to keep the state solvent on the backs of people who are dumb enough to pay their speeding tickets. So why should I be one of them? Actually, if 50 million people are just told they don't have to obey the law, why do I? You can see why things fall apart really quickly. Because the system fundamentally is voluntary, voluntary. There will never be enough law enforcement or flock cameras to force everybody to follow every law. People follow the law because they believe in the project. Things fall apart if you don't follow the law and other sort of Anglo-folk tales that are no longer operative, I guess. But if you tell tens of millions of people that they don't have to follow federal law, you should not be surprised when tens of millions of people who are born here decide they don't have to either. And then you have to deal with the consequences of that and good luck. So this sets a precedent, not just to the rest of the world that sees clearly coming to the U.S. has no penalty and you get free health care at the emergency room and free schools. But it sets a precedent for American citizens who feel like I'd be an idiot to play along and you see this already. Mass welfare fraud by immigrants, which is mass, I mean, it's real documented, has changed the attitudes of a lot of Americans. 40 years ago, most Americans, self-respecting Americans, birthright Americans or whatever they're calling them. Now people are born here. I can take welfare unless they really have to because it's shameful. Once you look around and there's a fake Somali daycare center in Lewiston down the road, the guy's making $30 million in, you know, driving some expensive car, defrauding Medicare or the state and you're like, well, I don't know, why don't I apply for veterans benefits? Why wouldn't I? And so you can sort of see it's a race to the very bottom and pretty soon everybody is in it for himself and no one is in it for the country. And then you really are at that point done. And the sad thing is none of this was necessary. It's not actually that hard to get control of an illegal immigration, immigrant population in the United States. You don't have to go shoot white girls, which is what the Trump administration did. Shoot some protestor. Well, she cut me off in traffic or shoot her like behavior like that is basically designed to get you the 60 minutes interview you just saw on Sunday. So the president sees video tape of some heavy set white girl getting shot to death at an immigration protest and it's like, this is too mean. You don't need to do that. In fact, you probably would only do that if you wanted to turn people against deportation. The first thing you would obviously do is ban remittances. There's no reason that people working here illegally should be allowed to take US dollars and send them outside the country. And yeah, a lot of them are good people. By the way, this is this is sincere. I mean, they're working hard and sending money to their families back in country acts and that's great. But why is it great for us? Of course, it's not great for us. It's not good for us at all. Why is it? These are people who clearly are invested in our system and we're just using it. And by the way, if they were working in their own countries, ask anyone from one of those countries, from which there's been massive immigration, has immigration from your country to the US been good for you? Is it good when all the energetic people leave it? All the doctors leave? No, it's not good at all. So it hasn't been good for the rest of the world either, despite the screeching from the race mongers, all of whom are like white and went to Oberlin, but in real life it's not good. So you just shut down their remittances. That would do a lot. You could also enforce the existing laws against carrying forged federal documents. What would happen if you showed up at the airport with a fake passport or fake driver's license? Don't try it. You go right to jail for that. But every person living here legally and working here legally is using fake documents. There's been no effort to crack down on them. Why is that? Well, because no one wants them to port it. That's why it's obvious. And maybe the most basic thing you could do is if you're here illegally, if you're not allowed to be, you're violating our law in this country, you can't use any of our resources. You can send your kids to the school. Nothing against your kids. I'm sure they're great. They are fault that they're here, but they're also American kids who would like to use that school and they're paying for it and their ancestors built it. And if you float a school of people who can't speak English, the school collapses. It's not a better school. It's a much worse school. And anyone who says otherwise doesn't have kids. That's true. And the same is true for hospitals across the country. Hospitals closing, rural hospitals, especially. And that's a direct result of immigration. Immigrants get sick like everyone else and they don't have insurance. And they show up in the emergency room and you feel sorry for them. Of course, it's nothing against them. They're taking advantage of a system that has been provided to them in an effort to destroy the country and it's working, of course. But if you wanted to fix it, you would say, no, of course you can't use a hospital at public expense. If you're not even here legally, why would we do that? But there's been no effort to do that whatsoever. Because again, they don't want to change it. By the way, you might debank some of these people too. Keep in mind that over the past 10 years, a lot of people who've complained about immigration into the United States have been debanked. They've been told by their bank, Bank of America, JPMorgan Chase. We're not going to allow you to bank with us anymore. These are American citizens. How many American banks have debanked an illegal alien, probably none? There's certainly been no encouragement from the Trump administration to do that. So the whole thing is not real. They never planned to do what they promised you they were going to do. They didn't build the wall. They had opportunities to do that. They spent the entire first term whining about how they couldn't do it. But they didn't really try, and that's the truth. And a lot of Trump supporters, me included, kind of ignored that and imagined that Trump had the best in the world. intentions, but did he? Well, he didn't try. So we're going to get amnesty because the Republicans want it and the Democrats want it. But what will it do to the country? And this is the thing to think about. Mass migration always has profound effects. Sometimes you can make a case for economic growth on the basis of it. Sometimes you can't always change the culture. Always makes the country less stable. It always makes it less unified. Always and everywhere. But you can, as noted, sometimes justify it on the basis of labor shortages. Like we don't have enough people. Like we're building all these new factories. Who's going to run that? We need people from country X. Can you make that case now? You make the opposite case now. And in fact, the people who are charting our future are thinking not about how to fill factories, but how to pay for the upkeep of an unemployed population. They're thinking about UBI. They're thinking about a nationwide welfare program because there won't be enough work thanks to AI and robotics. So whether or not you consider that like great, the promise of an endless vacation, everyone's on welfare. Awesome. Let's go to the beach or you consider that dystopian. No matter what side of that you're on, you can't look at the picture that's been painted so clearly for us of employment going forward. Like starting now and going into the foreseeable future. You can't look at that picture and say, you know what? We just need a lot more people in this country, particularly people with no skills who can't speak English. You didn't graduate from high school. You need a lot more of those. And in case you know what we're talking about, here's the founder of Anthropic, the AI company Anthropic, saying on television what his technology is going to do to employment in the United States. You've said AI could wipe out half of all entry level white collar jobs and spike unemployment to 10 to 20 percent in the next one to five years. Yes. That is that is that is the future we could see if we don't become aware of this problem now. Half of all entry level white collar. Well, if we look at entry level consultants, lawyers, financial professionals, you know, many of kind of the white collar service industries a lot of what they do, you know, AI models are already quite good at and without intervention. It's hard to imagine that there won't be some significant job impact there. And my worry is that it will be broad and it will be faster than what we've seen with previous technology. So we're going to have mass unemployment at or above the scale of the Great Depression, which unleashed revolutionary movements within our borders, by the way. Roosevelt using a bunch of pretty clever strategies kept it under control in the country together whatever you think of Roosevelt basically put millions of young men to work at $5 a week for the W with the CCC, the civilian conservation court. But whatever, that was one of the most profoundly disruptive things ever to happen to the United States. The stock market crash of October of 1929, people still talk about it a hundred years later. And we're going to have an unemployment that is greater than that, where it's not just farm workers out of business. It's half of all entry level white collar jobs. So that's like the entire graduating class of half of American universities will not have jobs. So it's into that recipe for revolution chaos collapse that you're going to bring tens of millions of low skilled foreign workers, because why? This isn't just a bad time to increase the population and to let in people with no skills from poor countries. It is the worst possible time. What will they do? No one knows, but they're pushing forward anyway. So that raises the question of why? Who is behind this? And what are their motives? Well, as far as we can tell, there are two groups pushing for this. The first are lobbyists and the second are Neocons. So to the first, lobbyists are people who represent business interests in Washington. And as we've learned the hard way over the past 50 years, but in exquisite detail in the last week, they're the only people are elected officials listen to people who pay them either in campaign contributions, in future jobs, jobs for their friends and family, maybe even in bribes, can't discount that possibility. And so lobbyists from interests that employ people are putting enormous pressure on this administration to increase immigration into the country. We don't have workers. We don't have enough workers. Now, in some cases, they don't have enough workers. That is true. It is a tightly remarket at the low-rend to believe it or not. But one of the reasons is that mass immigration has removed any incentive from the ruling class of the country and the government that it administers any sense of responsibility for the next generation of Americans, which is to say our schools collapse and nobody cares because you just import better educated people from Bangalore and you don't have to educate them. It's kind of an arbitrage on the education system of other countries. That's exactly what's happened. Like, why should you care about our people when you can just import new people? So immigration always causes the withering of the Native born population. Like as you import more impressive people, your population becomes less impressive. That is just a fact everywhere. You see it in the UK. You see it here. You see it all through Europe, Australia, New Zealand, and Canada. I mean, the state sponsored suicide program in Canada, the made program, medical assistance in dying, which is killed over 100,000 people. It's Canada's answer to rising healthcare costs. We'll just kill you. No, you can't get a new knee, but we do have a suicide shot for you. The numbers came out last year on who exactly is getting that. And it's 100% white Native born Canadians. They're the ones killing themselves. No immigrants in Canada are killing themselves. Why would they? They see boundless opportunity. But that is the nature of mass immigration. Not of all immigration, but when you turn over the population really quickly, the existing population is literally replaced and surrenders and dies. It's always true every single time. And that's exactly what's happening here. So business interests, which have sat by and watched this happen, and who are short term thinkers at their best, are pushing for more immigration in exactly the moment. When looking out three or four years, you don't want more immigration. And among the people they are using to do this is the secretary of Homeland Security, Mark Wayne Mullin, the former senator from Oklahoma. Now, who is Mark Wayne Mullin? Mark Wayne Mullin is already himself kind of a lobbyist. Mark Wayne Mullin to name one example, and I should just say parenthetically, but emphatically, one of the most corrupt politicians we have, Mark Wayne Mullin is an investor in a Cratham company. Cratham, in case you're not aware of it, is often called gas station heroin. And it's an addictive drug that kills people that has still up in band for some reason by the FDA. And lo and behold, we learn in the New York Times that Mark Wayne Mullin is pressuring the FDA not to criticize or ban Cratham because he is an investor in a Cratham company. So I guess the reason it's worth bringing that up is anyone who would lobby the government while working for the government as a cabinet secretary to keep Cratham of all things legal will probably lobby for anything. So who knows who got Mark Wayne Mullin, one of the most corrupt people in the United States Senate, and now in the Trump administration, to say the following, but here he is on Fox news the other day right after the loss, saying, actually, I think we need some amnesty. It seems like every time Republicans feel like they're running into a rough spot, they rushed to some type of immigration deal with the party that you yourself has said has no interest in lowering immigration, legal immigration, or enforcing the laws as they exist. So why would any idea be floated to work with the Democrats on an issue that is their holy grail as well? Well, I think it depends on what you're talking about. If they want to talk about making people that enter this country here illegally, legal, that's a non starter. If they want to talk about how to reform amnesty and how the port of entries work, they want to talk about how. But why does your flow, doc, Mr. Secretary, why is that the message for you guys of this election? I mean, doc has, doc applies to children that were brought here, no falter their own. They were, yes, but they were brought here, no falter their own and some of them may not even speak English or never even lived in their country. I think there's a part that we could look to say, listen, you're not going to become citizens because you wasn't born here, but is there a path for you to be legal? I know that's, it's a very far fetch because the president tried to do this in 2016, the Democrats weren't interested in doing it. So, but before we even even consider doing any of that, we're going to make sure that one our base is with us on it. They're not with it. And so in it, they're not with it. I'm just saying this, and I'm going to tell you that. It's for the children. It's for it's for the children. You can't have anonymity on the internet because of the, we're going to help the children or the sake of the children can't have fire arm, you know, because of the, because of the children. We got to put Russell Brandon prison because of the children say the governments that, you know, are hiding the Epstein file. You have to have amnesty because of the children. Of course, says Mark Wayne Mullen. Of course. So clearly the calculation is here. This is a short-term benefit to certain industries. They're lobbying the administration. You have to think including Mark Wayne Mullin, the gas station heroin guy. And so they're making their case on Fox News, but it's for the children. So it's, don't worry about it at all. We're just here for the children. We really, really care. Not about American children, by the way, as they die in huge numbers of drug odies, as they use cratum, Mark Wayne Mullin's cratum. But you foreign-born children, because we care, because we're compassionate people from Oklahoma. So there's that. There is the conventional business lobby pushing for increased immigration to expand the labor pool and lower the price of labor as they have been doing really since the country was founded. We shouldn't be surprised there. Even though two years out, we'll have too much labor. But by that point, the cost of all those unemployed people will be transferred to the taxpayer. So it's not like Mark Wayne Mullin and his cratum company are going to be paying anyone's unemployment. Obviously, they'll be supplying more cratum to unemployed people so they'll forget that they're unemployed. Okay. But there is another lobby pushing for mass migration and demographic change and has been pushing for it for, I don't know, at least 60 years. It's a little less obvious why. It's not exactly clear why the neocons, people who put the interest of a foreign nation above the interest of the United States, why would they be so anxious to change the population of the US, why would they be such stoward defenders of amnesty? If you, I don't know, got elected to the United States Senate to serve the interest of Israel, why does that mean necessarily that you're for mass migration in the United States? We don't know. And it's not a standard that's universally applicable. I mean, none of the people you're about to see are calling for amnesty for the Palestinians, giving them a pathway to citizenship, despite the fact they've been there since the beginning of history. It's actually their land. They didn't arrive as immigrants. They were already there when immigrants came in and took their country away, but no one's talking about giving them amnesty. That's not on the table. It only applies to people from poor countries who come to the United States. What is that? So here's tape, recent tape of two of the most fervent neocons in the United States House of Representatives that would be Don Bacon of Nebraska. And that would be guy called Mike Lawler, who think God just lost from New York, but watch as they argue, not as they normally do for the United States to go send more of its young men to die in the Middle East, but to open its borders even more than it already has. Here they are, Lawler and Bacon. Most Americans agree with that, where I think most Americans also agree is that if you have been in this country 5, 10, 15, 20 years, you've been working, you've not committed crimes. You have children or grandchildren that are American citizens. We want a legal path forward, not citizenship, not amnesty, but a legal process forward that those people can come out of the shadows and go through. Without immigration, we have a 1.7 birth rate. That means we have a declining workforce, we have an aging workforce, less people working to pay for people on social security and Medicare. You can't grow your companies. I mean, you shouldn't be surprised if you're willing to send other people's children to go die for Israel and Syria or Iraq or Iran, some of their far away place that has no direct connection to life here in the United States. If you're willing to literally sacrifice the children of your own nation for your donors, then of course you don't care about why Americans are having fewer kids and of course Americans are having fewer kids because they're discouraged about what the future looks like because of the terrible leadership in this country, people who've run a proud and rich nation into the ground. Then they look at this, they're like, I don't want to have kids. By the way, a lot of them feel they can't afford to have kids. If you're really concerned about declining birth rates in the United States, you would, I don't know, try to make housing more affordable or do something about the tens of millions of working-aged men in this country who aren't working and whose lives are not captured by the unemployment data because they're not even trying to get a job. What about them? No one's trying to do that. No one's trying to make college worth the cost. No one's trying to lower the price of single-family housing, no, not multi-family, you're living in some tenement that politicians can control, but like a normal house. No one's doing that. No one cares. And so after creating conditions where Americans can't reproduce, they have the balls to lecture you about, oh, you need more people from some foreign country because there aren't enough of us. But what about us? That's never a consideration. It's the glee with which they demand that we further change this country that makes you wonder, like, what is this? And there really no two people who embody this worldview, exactly, is it maybe not a worldview? It's more like latent hostility suddenly becoming obvious. What you're watching is not people who are indifferent actually. You're watching people who are hostile to the United States who don't like the country as it was, don't like the people who live here, don't like the customs of the country, don't like America. And you're watching those same people lecture you about how you don't like America if you're not willing to make it totally unrecognizable for the country you grew up in. So we just check, because we thought it'd be interesting. So Sunday night, Trump does this interview with Rothdouthit on CBS, 60 minutes. Pretty interesting interview, actually. And in it, he just blindly announces, yeah, I'm for amnesty. After spending his entire political career, 10 years arguing against amnesty, now he's for it. Days after his party loses. Kind of a big story. And so we checked the two most patriotic pro-America people we can think of on the internet, people who are constantly accusing other people of being insufficiently patriotic or controlled by a foreign adversary, taking, talking points from Putin or the isolas. People who are very quick to call you an adequate as an American. People who are conservative, who are Fox News, who are representing the bedrock values of this nation. And people like that you would expect would be a little bit surprised, if not horrified, to see the president of the United States whip around after 10 years of making one case and make the opposite case, in fact, the core liberal case. And we're speaking, of course, of super patriots, Mark Levin and Ben Shapiro. And so we're just sort of interested, like, what have they said on Twitter, which is their Metier, where they express their deep thoughts, both lawyers, handy with the word. And so we expected long essays about, with respect, Mr. President, you ran against this. Most people don't want this. There's no economic justification for it. And in fact, you could really wreck the country, even more than your predecessors, like Ronald Reagan already have. So maybe no. And just say it in a nice way, it's laid out. How would you possibly give an honesty to millions of people on the verge of the AI and robotics revolution? Tell us. But that's not what we found. What we found in both cases was post after post after post about Israel. And look could, and Iran, and what's happening at the other end of the earth, which is by the way itself, an argument against mass migration. Because when you let in the rest of the world into your country, by definition, you important not just the people, but ancient feuds, those come to. And maybe that's why the, I don't know, pick a race, Michigan Senate race last week was dominated, not by questions of what we're going to do for the people of Michigan. But by the oldest blood feud of all, Muslim versus Joe with the Middle East. What side are you on? How about neither one like who cares, actually? Maybe we talk about Michigan for a second? No. Where are you in Hamas? There's a lot of G-Hod, BB, Arab-Israeli, how the conflict come here, mass migration. So that's kind of what you wind up with, and Mark Levin and Shapiro are perfect examples of this. As the president of the United States, who they claim they are very close to, key advisors to, announces that he's going to sell out his country even more profoundly than he did when he attacks Iran. They say absolutely nothing. Well, not nothing. Actually, Shapiro said nothing, but Mark Levin was on a roll, and you may have seen this. Last night, he dropped the news because he's not simply a Fox News host and an eminent radio show host and obviously a man of the law, a constitutional scholar, a best-selling author. You know, he's also a man of technology. He's kind of, he's an older man, he's going to eye toward the future. He knows where this is going. And so he released a quite lengthy tweet aimed not at the American people or even the government of Iran or even his friend Benjamin Netanyahu, but at the presumably, there's still people who work there, the management of America Online, which is an internet company based in Northern Virginia that at one point, people used for email. And a guest, Mark Levin, couldn't get into his AOL, pushing 70 and he just could not get into his AOL account, and because he couldn't, he couldn't right yet another tweet calling some American and Islamist and glazing Benjamin Netanyahu. So he was outraged by that. Last night he signed off by saying, "I can't get into my AOL account and I'm notifying the appropriate authorities." Well this morning, around 1130, the mystery was solved. I'm going to read this to you because this is an actual tweet. Now keep in mind, this is Mark Levin's, almost the totality of his non-Israel-related output in the last week. And you'll notice, Amnesty not mentioned, and we're quoting, "We all know the Iranian regime is a great fan of Tucker Carlson's America-hating videos, which are from time to time on their government run propaganda platforms." In my case, the Iranian regime has a much different approach. My wife and I were warned yesterday by the appropriate federal agency that we might be targeted by the Iranian regime, specifically by a possible cyber attack. Well that appears to have occurred. That said, my brilliant staff is working around it, and this boomer will not be intimidated or silenced to the great chagrin of the woke rike neo-fascists. So it turns out that when a nearly 70-year-old man who hasn't left his rec room, probably since the second Reagan term, since Amnesty was signed, can't get into his AOL account, what you're looking at, ladies and gentlemen, is not ineptitude or creeping sinility? No. It's an Islamist cyber attack, launched by the Islamic Republic of Iran against America's greatest patriot, Mark Levin, who somehow never mentioned the fact that his president is about to usher in Amnesty. So why do we tell you this? Because when you don't acknowledge something like what Trump said on Sunday, you're doing it for a reason, and that's because you endorse it, and make no mistake at all. The people who would like to change the population of Gaza would very much like to change the population of the United States. And they are. Thanks for joining us. We appreciate it. We'll see you next Wednesday at 6 o'clock Eastern. (bells chiming)