Trisha & Moses Address Ethan & Hila Klein For the First Time... | Just Trish Ep. 323
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The conversation reflects on a deeply personal and emotionally transformative experience, marking a turning point in the speaker’s mind and relationship with certain topics. The trio—Jake, Johnny, and Tara—reunites in a new episode, celebrating their enduring friendship and shared history, even amid past differences. The hosts share excitement about a recent Hot Topic shopping trip, where they made thoughtful gifts for each other, reinforcing their close bond. A major emotional milestone is the speaker’s first live concert experience with My Chemical Romance, which they describe as life-changing, filled with energy, connection, and joy. The discussion also explores themes of aging, identity, and personal growth, including nostalgic moments like seeing Johnny Gilbert in a TikTok yard work video with his daughter. The group humorously ponders the confusion between similar names like Jake Shane and Shane Dawson, highlighting how internet culture shapes perceptions. They also reflect on real-life community dynamics, such as a viral Grindr controversy involving Grant from *Twink and a Redhead* and Crumble Cookie CEO Sawyer Hemsley, which sparked debate over authenticity and influence. Throughout, the tone is warm, self-aware, and full of personal connection, blending humor, nostalgia, and heartfelt moments. The episode also promotes the speaker’s upcoming book, a new music video, and a major tour across the U.S. and Australia, emphasizing ongoing personal and professional journeys.
It was definitely the most, like, altering thing for my brain to go through.
It was really, really difficult.
And I think from that time, I was like, I cannot engage anymore and talk about them anymore.
And it was just really hard.
And it was hard for both me and Moses, obviously.
So we kind of made that decision together.
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Hey, guys.
It is the emo episode you've all been waiting for.
The Jake, Johnny, Tara trio.
Tara trio.
We've got my ex-boyfriend, Jake.
We guys, we are just friends.
I just, like, stop being like, why are they always together?
We are just really, really close.
And whoever Jake ends up with, I can't wait to be at their wedding.
We're actually married.
We're secretly married.
But don't tell anyone.
This gets us viewed.
Jake, no.
What are you even talking about?
Johnny, tell them you were there at the wedding.
Just because you bought me a G-Wagon.
And I also want a G-Wagon.
Just putting that out there to you guys.
Buy things for each other all the time.
But Johnny could use a G-Wagon.
Pink interior as well.
Just throwing it out there.
Well, Johnny, if you came around in our videos more.
I've been with Grace.
We've been touring.
You know, it's been a little busy.
But we're going to get the trio back together starting now in this emo-mazing episode.
I think you had time.
I saw you at the Hollywood Bowl last weekend.
I think you have the time.
Listen, when Hot Topic comes calling, you know, you got to be there.
Well, Hot Topic was calling.
We did our Patreon extended Hot Topic challenge.
Not sponsored.
Although Hot Topic offered to sponsor me last week.
For the My Chemical Romance.
And I kind of go, because we already had plans.
But we love you, Hot Topic.
Free sponsorship, I guess, at this point.
Because on Patreon, we did a Hot Topic call.
We bought everything from Hot Topic.
Got the Jake and Johnny from Hot Topic.
Hot Topic really is that girl.
We went to the one here at the Oaks.
And the lady gave us an MCR bag.
And we're like, wow, I thought this was only at Hollywood Highland.
She goes, that's the big one.
They had the exclusive merch.
But I also got you guys the bag.
So we each got a bag.
We each did the challenge.
I bought so much for myself.
But I also bought a lot for you guys.
If you guys want to go see Patreon at the extended.
Of the Hot Topic Challenge, which is just us shopping, go see it.
I think this stuff is really good.
I'm really excited to show you what I got for you.
I'm excited.
It really is a store.
I mean, I don't know for Moses.
But for the two of us, in particular, with our interests, it is kind of crazy.
I couldn't stop.
Like, everything I saw.
I was like, that's why I'm so excited.
Because there were some niche things that I remember you talking about.
And I'm like, oh, my God, this is good.
There's the obvious, of course.
I know.
I think we got you some good things.
I can't wait to see my stuff.
I was, like, picking a sweater out.
And I was like, wait, I was going to get that for you.
And I was like, all right, here.
Here's my size.
Here it is.
And there's a lot of good stuff.
So, just go to patreon.com slash justtrish for that, you guys.
Happy Halloween.
Halloween week.
My book, Crying on the Kitchen Floor, is available for pre-order.
It comes out in two weeks.
We are getting so close to pub.
My first interview about the book comes out this week.
And I filmed it about a month ago.
So, it comes out this week, which I'm really excited.
And I can't wait for you guys to see what it is.
I'm so excited for this interview.
The first one that comes out on Wednesday.
So, I am very excited for it.
I'm very nervous.
But, again.
I can't wait to hear what you all think.
Trishmas is upon us.
We just filmed my Christmas music video this past Friday.
It'll be out soon.
And, you guys, if you want to come see me at Trishmas, I'm coming to Florida.
Florida, baby.
We are going to Jacksonville.
We're going to Fort Lauderdale.
We're going to St. Petersburg.
And we're going to Orlando.
And then we are going up to New Jersey and Niagara Falls.
So, get your tickets today.
Also, I'll be in Australia and New Zealand playing arenas.
My first ever arena tour will be happening.
Starting February 27th in Auckland, New Zealand.
And then we go over to Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide.
Extra shows added.
Venues are upgraded.
It's going to be a great time.
Lots to discuss.
Cooking videos.
Moses has a cooking channel.
Moses cooking videos.
Oscar has a vlog channel.
Oscar Gracie.
And a TikTok.
And a TikTok.
I am a TikTok star now.
You're?
Yeah, I've transitioned.
So good.
You're so good.
No, did you?
Have you seen his TikToks?
Like the way he edits them?
I saw the one with the book.
The reading?
Oh, that one.
That one was great.
But then the wig.
I know your concepts are so good.
The wig one.
Like he like, he does his editing like he does.
He does like the jilting and the coolness to it.
And even today, he was doing something slow-mo in the mall.
And like, couldn't see the vision.
But I'm like, I know his edits are going to be so sickening.
Yeah, once it's, you know, out of post, I think you'll totally get it.
But I am a TikTok star now.
It's been fun.
I love coming up with ideas.
Jake Shane, that wig, is in jeopardy of being pulled and scalped.
Yeah, I fear.
I fear I'm coming.
What's the?
TikTok.
Just, just Oscar, right?
Oscar, just Trish.
Oscar.
Which, there was a typo in my username for a really long time until Darian clocked it.
He thought it was a creative choice.
And he asked me for my username.
It's Oscar, just Trish, right?
I'm like, it's Oscar, just Trish.
The podcast I'm on, I was so sassy with him.
And he's like, well, you spelled it wrong.
I was like, oh, my bad.
You're so me.
You're so me whenever I say anything.
What did I say to you the other day that I felt really bad?
And I was like, oh, you were right.
It was something in the car on the way back from the marathon.
You said something.
I'm like, I'm so sorry.
You're right.
God, it was like on the way to the.
I know you tell me it's not.
After that, you told me about that one.
TikTok is like, it's not that I don't like he's always right.
I just don't like his tone.
Yeah, yeah.
He always wants what's best for me, but I don't like his tone.
And he was telling me something.
And I was like, so snappy.
And I was like, oh, my God, no, you're right.
Like, so sorry.
Yeah, I get the same way.
I get a little sassy.
Oopsie.
Wig snatching.
Did you see Shane take that wig off?
He was wig snatching.
I think Jimmy sent it.
That was Shane Dawson, y'all.
Shane Dawson.
Not Jake Shane.
Yes.
Why are people getting them confused?
Because even the Shane candies.
The Jake Shane candies.
Someone's like, Shane Dawson's octopus.
And I'm like, I was so confused.
Why are people getting that confused?
Because Shane?
I think just famous Shane.
Famous queer Shane's.
OK.
Ish.
I have no idea.
I guess they give similar vibes.
Like, he's kind of early Shane.
You think?
I mean, not like gross, but.
I think.
Quirky.
Quirky.
But senses of humor are kind of different.
I feel like Jake Shane more of a wholesome funny and Shane Dawson more of like a quirky.
Well, self-deprecating, though.
I will give you that.
Self-deprecating quirky.
Question.
We don't know if Shane's gay.
Jake Shane's gay.
Is he out?
He's never talked about boys.
Yes.
He said like his E.T. actually interviewed him a couple of months ago.
And like, what's what do you you've already done so much?
Like, what's the one thing left on your bucket list?
He said a boyfriend.
Is that it's coming out?
Was that it?
I don't know.
I didn't know.
I didn't know if we knew.
I thought we were.
OK, the lip ring.
Someone swung the lip ring by the end of this episode.
I feel it.
I'm scared for both of you.
I love the commitment you guys did.
I should have gotten like an eyebrow one or a belly one.
You guys really committed to it.
I love this outfit.
I love the blazer.
Did you find it at the mall?
This is.
No, I ordered it online.
It is nearly biblically accurate.
He Johnny Gilbert wore a leopard print moto jacket on the Zach Sang show.
And I was like, oh, people.
Period.
I'm going to get that.
His over a thousand dollars.
I'm like, OK.
Wow.
So I did find this one.
Didn't realize how sequined it was until it came in the mail.
I love it.
So it is kind of like a can't be gay version of Johnny Gilbert.
Not that biblically accurate, but close.
He would appreciate that.
Can't be gay.
I think he would too.
I think he would appreciate the creative liberties that are being taken here.
Well, I saw a Johnny Gilbert TikTok on Grace's.
So Grace Vindian posted a TikTok of shaking my boyfriend and my dad doing garden.
They were like doing yard work.
So it was like Johnny outside because the Jake and Johnny is like, what?
Which one is which?
OK.
Johnny was outside like doing like the manual labor with her dad and her dad.
I'm already prepared for you to not know who this is.
But he was so iconic back in the day as Casper Vandian.
He's like a really famous actor.
Like he was like he was like skyrocketing.
I don't know what happened.
Like, but he had some pretty major roles.
Have you seen it before?
I've seen Sleepy Hollow.
Yes.
Back in the day.
He's been in a lot of big films.
I can't like think of all of them.
But as soon as I'm like, oh, God, he looks familiar.
And then everyone's like, oh, my God, your dad's Casper Vandian.
Never put that together.
And of course, I like knew.
I was in Casper meets Wendy as well.
I feel like he's been in everything.
He was like that guy.
Major.
OK.
And obviously she was in Stranger Things.
Yeah.
OK.
That's fierce.
Oh, my God.
Which is like crazy that she's like a full adult, like with a full boyfriend.
It's like because I remember him.
I remember him like just being young and hot.
And now he's just like a dad of like a.
Grown daughter with a boyfriend like I.
I cannot imagine like Malibu posting that on TikTok like you with like a like a Johnny
Gilbert type in the future, just doing yard work together.
I'd be like, oh, why?
I'm not old enough for that.
Like, that's how it felt with him.
Like, he feels young, her dad.
And that's I was like, that's crazy.
But I mean, I guess people I just just people age, I guess.
So true.
And he looks great.
Like, I remember looking at her dad's again.
Her dad's kind of hot.
And then I was like, oh, that's like a really.
And he was super hot when he was young.
And I was like, that's crazy.
People, people age and people.
It's this crazy.
Two is like people age.
Who was it that did not age?
Well, someone we were talking about someone being really hot back.
OK, well, this is very niche.
We're talking about someone else's Hollywood costume.
He's being Benny from the Sandlot.
Did you ever watch the Sandlot?
Yes.
As a as a tot.
OK, do you remember any of the hot?
Do you remember anyone being hot in that as a as a young boy?
Obviously, no.
The only one I can even remember is the chubby one.
But that's probably just because I love him.
Identified with him.
I would assume he was in everything.
That one was in like the big green.
I forgot his name.
I think his name's.
I don't know.
He's on TikTok.
OK, well, there was like one that was cute, like that we all thought was cute because
I'm like when I was their age.
I'm not saying they're cute growing up.
when I was like a 12 year old
I also thought
like there was this
the main guy was like Benny
and anyways
we looked him up now
because all of a sudden
Glamour like he was so hot
we loved him
and we had such a crush
on him as a kid
and then like
I mean just didn't age well
but I guess that happened
I mean I guess it's a blessing
to age so who cares
who am I to
as long as you're alive
right
it's like that comic con
where that one guy
gained a bunch of weight
and everyone was
mad about it
anyways
they look fine
everyone looks fine I guess
some people get better
with age
some people look hotter
like Jerry O'Connell
was the fat kid
in Stand By Me
and then he got kind of
moral of the story
be fat when you're young
and then just get hotter
as you age
yeah and don't you
feel like that too
like you got into your
I feel like I got into my own
yeah cause also like
when all the jocks
you like peak in high school
and I still live like
in the town I went to
high school in
so when I see people
like at the gym or something
I'm like damn
you really were peak
physical performance
in high school
that does suck
cause it is kind of
downhill from there
whereas me
I started 300 pounds
anything after that
was kind of like a glow up
you know
that's how I feel too
I was like I think
I like look the best
I've ever looked
right now
thanks to Ozempic
which is crazy
we always think about
like not to bring it up
but I swear
after this book's over
I'm gonna stop bringing up
David Dobrik
cause honestly no one cares
by the way
I will say
I've done like literally
like 20 different interviews
with different press outlets
different podcasts
different things
not one person
has ever brought up David
so I'm gonna stop
bringing up David
cause no one gives a shit
and I love that
that's like the ultimate
and me just keep bringing him up
but he had always talked about
how he
high school was his best year
so he wished to go back
to high school
he peaked in high school
and then you think
you brought it up
on Hot Topics
where you like
looked up a picture of him
and you're like
that was the peak
yeah
he was giving
same
he was giving same
but worse
I mean now he does talk about
he talks about his own insecurities
his hairline and stuff like that
I mean it just got worse for him
but sometimes I do think
the ugly comes out
within
do you know what I mean
it kind of like seeps out
to the outside
it catches up with you
yeah
yeah
so we just
we're just great people
so our glow
just was becoming
even greater
yeah
crazy
I know as Moses
had black on his beard
we did a
we did a
Christmas music video
last week
where he played Jesus
and it was like a cute
did you
did you think
the dignity of the character
was kept intact
yeah
because I was like
the master of ceremony
you know
yeah
he was a DJ
he was like a little DJ Jesus
they called you DJ JC
all the background people
were saying DJ JC
I love that
yeah it was everything
it was like a vibe
and he put
like black
they have like black mascara
for like your beard
because obviously
Jesus only lived to be 33
so biblically not accurate
if he had the gray
I see
so
and then he has to keep
you were keeping it
oh and then
for our costume on
what are you keeping this for
you were keeping the beard
or the mustache
I thought it was gonna be Mario
oh yeah yeah yeah
so you had to keep that
so you would have like
shaved today
but
anyways he had the black
and more or less right
he looked so young
his whole beard was like black
and I was just like
not to say I liked it
because I do think like
it's kind of
in my personal opinion
I don't really love
when like older men
like have jet black hair
and you're just like
okay you're clearly like 50 white
you know what I mean
okay well
I mean I love this look
on you today
I actually really do like this
both of you this is my
favorite costumes
we've ever worn
I saw you
and I was like
we saw you
we spotted you
tattoos now
oh I kind of love
and I don't even love tattoos
like that I kind of love
these look great
we spotted Oscar
you spotted him first
like up top
like you saw him a mile away
I thought you guys
were high school kids
when I saw you
I'm like not even being funny
like I saw you
I just walked in
I was on the second level
you were under
on the first floor
and I literally thought
you two were high school kids
I mean we kind of were
until Moses went
oh there's Johnny
and then I was like
oh
just in the middle
of the mall
then I was like
in the mall
just like shouting
Johnny
that's exactly
how it went too
it was giving high school
just high school kids
at the mall vibes
but when I saw him
with the black beard
I was like
damn
I kind of like
I started crying
I was just like
I will never know you
as this young
33 year old
Jesus actor
because that's like
the age he played
Jesus at
and I was like
I'll never get to know
you in your 30s
it's like so sad
it's like damn
there was a sound
when we were waiting
for you
there was a sound
of Jake and Tara
being like
I really wish
you would have met
later in life
like 23 or 24
we would have had
a better chance
it was their breakup video
and I was like
how young were they
when they were dating
and I was like
we should do that sound
and I was just like
I wish you would have met
later in life
like 23, 24
which in a way
is exactly what happened to us
because I think
had we met
back then
when you were like
23
I was 33
you probably would have
not even swiped on me
you know
you were like
that hard
but likewise
you not on me either
I don't know
I just don't know
because I haven't met you
but
I think
I don't know
I mean I always liked you
from the minute I saw you
so I think
if I saw you back then
but
you had to give it a chance
I wouldn't have given it a chance
as we know from my book
if you read
pouring on the kitchen floor
I was looking for
a very specific
old famous
rich actor
which I didn't meet
and none of them were
famous or rich
just old really
just old and user
so I was seeking something
and I found it
and it wasn't what I thought
I was giving
and sometimes
you gotta seek
for what you're not
sought after
in order to
reap
this
that part
that part
you know where I was going
so do people get
Jake Webber
and Jake Shane
mixed up
because they're both Jakes
like it's just
Shane and Shane
I think it's just
Jake Shane
which is crazy
because it's the last name
and first name
at least Jake and Jake
are first names
I know but
I think it's the
the vibes are very different
you know
there's a lot of Jakes
not a lot of Shane's
that are famous
that's very true
do you think people get
Jake and Johnny confused a lot
I still do
I still
not sure who I am
like they look very different
I'm not sure who I'm supposed to be
they do look very different
but
I think it's the name
Jake and Johnny
it's just like
which one is Jake
which one's Johnny
I know now
at first maybe
like when you first
discover them
now
I feel like I know them so well
so yeah
I know
and even today in Glam
they're like
oh cause they saw the merch
like they have some merch
on topic
and I was like
yeah are they that famous
I'm like they kind of are
they're kind of like
cause Tara's in
Zoomies
yeah Tara's in Zoomies
she's in Zoomies
they're in Hot Topic
like they're kind of really famous
they are
and they're really sweet
we were saying this in the car
in our vlog
we were just saying how like
like really really nice
they all are
like really nice
like insanely nice
so
and even when we
poke fun or
talk about the drama
or Jake being in love with Tara
they're still
they're still really sweet
they're still like
yeah cool whatever
like Tara's always like
love you
like they're always just like
really nice
where they could throw shade
but they never do
they're just
they're just good people
they're key
they go with the flow
they know it's not serious
you know
I know
and then they came back as a trio
we love to see it
Jake, Johnny, Tara
forever
forever and ever
weekend
a weekend update
we both went out of the house
this weekend
yeah
I feel like we did a lot
this weekend
individually and also together
oh yeah
oh my god
god oh my god
that's right
I kind of even forgot
about the marathon
oh my gosh
well I guess we can talk
about that further
when like Jimmy's here
but we did the marathon
before that
my first outing
first being outside
as you would say
is
I did my chemical romance
so after we did the
Lucille Ball episode
last week
then we had to do a quick change
into
we went to Costco
that's coming up to our
Patreon
patreon.com
slash gestures
we did the Costco run
and then we
went to MCR
which was
oh my god
life changing
it was life changing
I haven't been
I seriously
someone correct me if I'm wrong
I don't think I've been to a concert
since I've been
I was 12 years old
I don't think since I've seen
Britney Spears
not a mega show
a concert
I've been
I saw Donny Osmond
I was from Caretop
but I don't think I've seen
yeah because I feel like
the only time you see shows
really is
Vegas
Vegas or I guess Broadway
I'll see a show
but I've never
haven't seen like a concert
and it was
I felt so alive
I guess Ben Platt
oh yeah
yeah yeah
I don't know
that definitely counts
how could we forget that
were you being serious
yeah
oh okay okay
yeah because that was
a big moment for you
it was a big moment
that's more like
a Broadway musical
not a rock concert
yeah I guess it definitely
was at the Greek
so maybe that
but aside from that
oh my god
I just felt so alive
just to be
I guess we talked about it
with Ben Platt
and that's why I thought of it
is like just being
in the same vicinity
with so many people
that are just like
singing the same songs
and feeling the same energy
like everyone was dressed up
there was a lot of cosplay
I was worried about being like
the only one
there was a lot of cosplay
which was beautiful
we'd love to see it
the person next to me
was a cosplayer
like it was a vibe
and it wasn't bad
Tana was right
it took me 8 minutes
to get to our seats
and 8 minutes
to get back to our car
that's fierce
it was crazy
and we had to go
all the way around
we got dropped off
at the bottom of the bowl
went all the way up
saw a VIP valet check in
I'm like who's getting that
I was like how do we get that
we were GA all the way
we could have been more GA
which honestly
loved it
honestly was a vibe
we were walking in
with my sister
and then we got to sit
front row
that kind of got to be VIP
they gave us a little
front row thing
so that way no one
could sneak to the front
which I thought was fun
and so we were front
me and Moses
were the very last seats
at the end
but it was kind of cool
because we had like
5 security around us
so we felt like
VIP
whenever Gerard gets off stage
to talk to the audience
and do something
that's where he comes down
so everyone are
standing their guard
so it's like
so it's Trisha
me and next to me
a giant security guard
and another one
and we're all kind of like
yeah we're here for her
yeah yeah
we're here to watch
I think they were
blocking me
I think as soon as
Gerard came down
they were like
they were like blocking
I was like
I want to take a video
I was like oh my god
but it was the best experience
of my entire life
and I
they have two more shows
this weekend
I really want to go
but I don't know
I mean it's Halloween shows
I might be busy
20,000
20,000 dollars
for a front row ticket
this weekend
what?
20,000
20,000 dollars
I thought 2,000 was a lot
I was just bringing
for 2,000
20,000
start opening a piggy bank
like Tara's World
that's what she's doing
what?
yeah
she's
she has a piggy bank
to save up for Harry Styles
and every week
she's putting away
a random sum of money
in her new piggy bank
how about sell the two houses
that your mortgage is on
that you put a down payment on
you can get that down payment back
that's
this girl
this girl is the rage baiter
of all rage baiter
but I love you girl
I get
I guess
like she's
she's something else
I do love her
you should dress like her
for Halloween
that would have been a vibe
I know
T
seven cats
I have really fallen down
uh me and another influencer i guess i can't name her but another tiktoker wait why can't
you name her i've seen it too yes wait what are we talking about so i know gabrielle
what did she post she posted a tiktok addressing tara's world she's like you think i'm a hater but
i'm actually a fan because you stress me out and i worry about you and i was like i really
identified with that tiktok actually i'm like that part gabby i'm the same like a fan at first
i was confused perplexed by tara's world the financial decisions the life decisions the
everyday decisions so at first i was a hater turn fan now i'm like really invested i am seated for
every tiktok love when she starts and legs spread apart like thigh gap on it's like it's evident
yes 0.5 too where she's like as teeny tiny and tall as possible i'm gonna get trish and tara's
world confused any second now because you're also teeny
tiny 1.5 and then you'll see it side by side and sometimes in your tiktok see you're standing i'm
like oh my god such a big thigh gap well it's really easy to do because you just like stand
apart and lean forward and then you could have anyone could have i had a thigh gap when i was
263 pounds i was having a thigh gap like it's very easy to fool and not to say tara's not obviously
she's is she tara tara there's too many oh my god tara's world and tara yes they're not pronounced
the same i know that for sure tara's world but um yes tara is setting up for harry's
styles because he's coming to la she wants to see him every single time mind you she did just
fly to new york to see harry styles but okay forget that girl maybe it's too much that's how i feel i'm
like if it's not meant to be i'm putting it out to the gods of mcr right now like if it's meant to be
we'll go i definitely definitely can't pay twenty thousand dollars but i will maybe get a piggy bank
as well maybe me and tara's world can do a little collaboration do a little tiktok battle earn some
extra coin or something would love to be on that or maybe hot topic hot topic let me know
i can now take a plus one because my sister works on the weekend so now i can have a plus one
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for sponsoring today's episode it was cute seeing like obviously seeing you moses but you and callie
too since you you know were influenced of course no like it was the best actually my sister what
she was living her best life so she got like a middle there was only one middle one and so i was
like well we can just switch on and off especially because we were in the front row so i would like
textures throughout the show and she's like no i'm good because gerard never came to our side of the
stage unfortunately because there was a big giant speaker and then there was like a table where like
an actor was sitting the entire time which he never had a reveal there was like a person in
costume playing some sort of like regime um but he never talked he would just sit there and take
notes the entire thing and so i thought there was like a reveal who this who is who's this guy
literally no idea just was like part of this show um but my sister was right in center so she was
getting so much she's like i got b-roll for jimmy she got so much like close-ups of gerard so i kept
like texting i'm like hey do you want to switch with like moses he'll go to the center which
would have been so funny if moses was like front row center for my chemical romance like he's like
i would have stood up for it i was like okay that wouldn't everything but my sister's like no i'm
good here and then when the b set came because it was it was a 45 minute rain delay and then they had
to be out by 11. so we really got like a shortened version which is fine honestly fine for me because
i do love mcr i don't know deep cuts i definitely know just the hits you know what i mean so i knew
all black parade of course they didn't play blood which is like one of my favorite songs but um but
then when they do the the deep cuts i really didn't know most i was only waiting for three
main songs and that's really all they had time to play so i was fine with it um and then my sister
got to come over and we got to sing our little hearts out because moses then because my sister
like i'll wait till moses gets back because he was going to the bathroom and we were getting
merch and we came back and then she like is he okay does he coming back and so i just said moses
he's like oh i thought you were coming out i was like no so he's like i'll just wait out here so
then moses just wait out and then my sister's like oh i'll wait with you i'm like you go back to the
center i'll wait with you and so she we were partying at the end and it was the best yeah
my sister was so excited because that is like she is the og mcr fan if you read in my book you'll
find out when i became an mcr fan and why and it's very weird and very random but that's how i start
all my hyper fixations is hyper fixating on someone else sister was texting me he's like
trisha should come here because she knew how amazing the center is it's like trisha should
come here she really needs to be here so i texted back and i said well she doesn't want to distract
gerard what why did you you texted so sorry gerard my husband does not reflect my feelings
i don't know why he thought that and then i don't think he was even looking he doesn't really look
at the front row which i get he's performing his little heart out so i was there was no mikey way
i was very excited he kept coming over i don't know if it's because the photographer the photographer
had your hair actually he has red and black hair just like that it was two-toned it was always in
the back of my shots um and mikey way was over there the entire time he kept coming over he was
running back and forth he was going cross country on that stage it was crazy to see um yeah it was
fine yeah maybe i should have actually i guess hindsight maybe switched her for a song or
something because we didn't get to see gerard up close too much because we were kind of blocked
came a couple of times i mean twice we sat on the desk i mean as close as we could we were front rows
no well my sister was closer so it wasn't i'm saying compared to all the people behind us
yeah i do love a front row i mean even like the box would have been cool but like god i need to
like see them i think i have some really bad eyes so i like like when they come close i like to like
see them you know otherwise they are suspect to me because i have horrible eyesight it was the
best it was the best night ever i felt just free and one with everybody the rain had subsided it
was like pouring rain that day and there was no rain at night so that was perfect and everyone
felt alive although i did have anxiety was there sometimes i just get anxiety around people and
not like enough anyone's like coming up to me i was like they're watching the show i'm like
anxiety isn't about like i think they're watching me it's just that there's a ton of people in here
and the panic is like what would happen if it was like that what was that movie with josh hartnett
you know what i mean like what if there's a killer yeah what if we're trapped and it's like
where do we go it's like there's just so many people isn't really what happened in the movie
but no one was actually trapped except for josh hartnett who was the serial killer but why was he
he was trapped because the fbi knew that the killer was going to be at this concert
because i think they tracked his purchases or something but everyone else was free to go
in and out so he was the only one trapped in and so they knew it was him they didn't know it was
him in particular like his face whatever they just knew the killer was there so why did everyone else
get to go on and out except for him if they didn't know it was exactly actually that's the t i'm kind
of forgetting the the fine details of the plot everyone's trapped in there and my no everyone
could go in and out except except for him i think so they knew or maybe someone maybe everyone ended
up getting trapped actually i just remember the daughter of nishan malone's daughter also ended
up getting abducted but okay i forgot the details really good movie though i want to check it out
it sounds good but then in my head i was just thinking like that's gonna happen anyways
hollywood was very organized it was great my chemical romance is the best show ever they did
say they they put the to the show together in two weeks but hey i still thought it was great
his vocals were amazing i was crying i was screaming i was doing all of it
it was um it was a great experience more people should go to concerts i just had a really
outer body experience actually it is sponsored by c geek today so honestly got the tickets on
c geek too and that's how i found and not again was not the ad read of it but we could go into
the ad read literally the two tickets i was able to see because i put three tickets right but that
meant three tickets together and then i went around the system i was like let me put two
tickets i saw two in front and i saw one in front i was like boom we got it it was so great that was
amazing so thank you um seek geek i did pay for them i did pay a lot of money for them
but uh use that code i did get ten dollars off which hey that's something that is something
you went outside the house you saw oh yes i went to a pokemon rave did not know it was a rave really
i knew it was like edm said it was marshmallow the dj um i've only really seen him in fortnite
and i think in a david dobrik vlog vlog back in the day david mentions but i know too many sponsored
um but yeah it was really fun i went i got invited by pokemon somehow
that's so cool yeah it was really cool because obviously i loved since i was a kid that was the
first thing i've ever done with them so it was really fun there was um an opener alice in
wonderland i think her name was and she'd like remix pokemon songs there was all these pokemon
on the screen it was like videos it was really cool it came up on my tick tock i watched every
video yeah i got goosebumps i mean it was cool they like incorporated the pokemon into the dj
set so they were like reacting to marshmallow it was really cool
and uh like like sometimes you let's say you have a fight scene between two pokemons right so
and the music and the fire and the smoke and everything so it's kind of like a three-dimensional
yeah it's like all times like the beat drops and stuff it was not was it ravers or pokemon fans
it was mostly pokemon fans i would say but dressed ravey i guess a really wide demo you got
the the girls gays and days you got the street boys a lot of pokemon goers was thinking about
moses yeah the pokemon demo is quite wide for sure which is so interesting but um a lot of
pokemon goers i felt bad i should have downloaded pokemon go and got something for moses that's
crazy you didn't have that while you were there i know i don't play pokemon go mostly because i
hated that i had to go like i hated having to go out of the house like that like when it was
quarantined and no one had to go outside they let you play in your house like this is great
but when you actually like go and walk around i'm like i just want to like play pokemon at home
i kind of love seeing people do that for a minute when that was the hype it's just people like
outside it was kind of nice it's like wow people are like outside playing with each other again
it was fun for a minute i remember when it came out um i was in san diego for comic-con and that
was lit because obviously comic-con there's going to be a lot of action yeah but then after that
it's like like i want to play on the weekend but like from bed i don't want to like go out drive
find somewhere and then walk around for two hours that's where tiktok hasn't nailed down
it's like what's the perfect bed rotting activity
like it's just like i just need a scroll because you can't be driving you can't be distracted you
can't do it you have to just like sit in bed and scroll although i do love a scroll
on the elliptical like cardio whatever that's kind of fun do i would get seasick like i would
get motion sickness you don't get motion sickness no although i do get tired of holding it but they
have a thing where you can like have a little phone rest and then they have like a bluetooth
scroller that you can get i don't have it yet but i have seen it on the tiktok shop and i probably
will at some point you are thinking about getting it yep yep because that's cool because then you
just have it on your stairmaster or something just i think it's like a ring or something you
just scroll it yeah i have to look at the tv when i was on my elliptical i would watch what i was
watching a lot of 90 day fiance back i remember in your garage right three hours yes i remember
you would be posting the whole three hours and you would keep showing your timer i'm like damn
this girl's still going that was you training for the marathon that was me training for our
marathon which took less than three hours which was great moses is reviving the gym he's like oh
i'm cleaning it out because he wants to also start working out in there so i was like the gym will be
the aloe gym soon yes period i'm so excited version though workout equipment is going to be fierce yes
yes unfortunately well i was going to say jeff what it was supposed to be a trainer but i don't
know if that's in the cards i don't know i don't know why this is happening with him also on tiktok
if you watch a playlist it will automatically keep going that's a good hack so if there's
something a subject or somebody you want to watch me for tara's world that's your playlist just
watching her they should do like if you go to their page like yeah just giving them to the next
one like kind of like youtube like an automatic play or something your eyes look beautiful with
eyeliner i forgot i had this on oh my god i forgot i had eyeliner you do like a tight line oh i was
struggle city i've never done eye makeup before i very much another shane dawson mentioned i'm so
sorry but i was very much doing like it was really shaky and i did it and i was like wait i'm actually
getting so much better that is giving took a little black eyeshadow smudged it over the
eye
top i tried to do a cut crease a little cut crease yeah it's giving it's giving it is giving a little
shame to i know have no fear your hero is here if he didn't have a black wig right no he did on one
it was the it was the god lady gaga douchebag you remember we watch it but you're falling for a
douchebag baby the lady yes the judas lady gaga oh is that what i don't know what's parodying
but it's like lisa and he has he has the black hair
with like a blue yeah he had different names for those characters i don't know he's like oh that's
switch i was like okay so sorry i was like i thought that was just us emo but okay um no one
really talked about canceled i was i was seated to look for those clips on um on tiktok but i haven't
seen anyone give a review oh shane's canceled okay see jake shane canceled tana like what where are
we at where are we doing yeah no one really gave any reviews early looks no i've seen clips on
tiktok of shane taking canceled live the pilot episode i did not know it was just the pilot
episode as well oh i guess it's just the pilot episode and then hopefully the hype gets it picked
up to a series hopefully i don't know it's a hype there yeah maybe who picked it up as of right now
like any news outlets as entertainment tonight there no i'm not saying it in a shady way i'm
saying it for real because you always tell me when there's mainstream news not that i know of but
maybe i missed it you know maybe i'm
busy this weekend i was busy yeah i was out and about i just saw the one jimmy sent of him taking
a fan's wig off but like i think because they asked or something yes i would assume it was um
someone in shane drag it was a shane shane and jeffrey drag oh did you like it yeah he took
photos i saw it on shane's instagram so tough one it was a hard post actually so he you know he loved
it yeah all right so many questions
but well pokemon go mcr our marathon yesterday we are girls on the go yeah very much out and about
non-stop october is as i say all i say for every month but it's like everything is planned to the
minute to the day nothing can detour it whatever is on the schedule is on the schedule so this is
another crazy week because it is officially halloween week so it's it's a full stretch
it's the home stretch it's the home stretch yeah so you're going to horn nights yeah i was
supposed to go to horn nights after the marathon which yes it was the 10k but i'm going to keep
saying marathon because everyone loves to correct us it's actually not the you didn't do a marathon
you did 10k but it's the malibu marathon that's why like people are so dumb no offense if you
were one of those people but you're so dumb because it's called the malibu moves marathon
yeah yeah so there's a half marathon there's a 10k there's a 5k they don't call it malibu moves 10k
they call it a marathon because they say it's a marathon it's a marathon it's a marathon it's a
marathon and route so people love to correct even in the new york city marathon you can do
a 10k so i could say i'm running the new york city marathon but i'm only doing the 10k gosh people
okay anyways the 10k sure whatever i was supposed to go to horn nights that same night because i
booked horn nights before i realized what day the marathon was that was my own poor planning
but luckily darian called customer service because you're not allowed to really change your date and
i was like please tell them i twist my ankle or something because i was so tired because we had
to get in the marathon
like i mean i woke up at four to get there at six so and i just did the pokemon concert the night
before so i was so tired and i'm like there's no way oh yeah yeah i didn't i didn't i got like two
hours of sleep so i'm like there's just no way there's just no way how are you feeling yesterday
after the marathon i was kind of dead i couldn't nap because i'm a bad napper darian napped right
away either the kids were all up and it was struggle city yeah we had a shower and stuff
and like the when the babysitter's up i was just like oh i'm like oh no i was about to take a
nap and he's like it's their time's up the kids are all up it was like because i was full fresh
shower i was in those sheets i mean literally i was i think just uploading my troy bolton video
i had like five minutes and i was like all the kids are up and they're leaving and i was like
no it was fine honestly it was good because we hadn't seen them in the morning so it was like
good to we were playing forts and stuff with them but man i was ready for that nap i was ready to
yeah it was exhausting more tired than i thought really was just like my feet hurt my back hurt
because um i did have moments of sprinting because i really wanted to be daring and i
really sprinted like my life depended on you were the winner for sprinting you raced jimmy in one
you raced darian in one beat me oh at the end he was the first one out of just trish to cross the
finish oh he oh i thought you were no he was he's been training though he's been training he does
he has a strava account he you know he takes it very serious all the girls have strava all the
girls have strava yes that has to be your next darian was excited about the strava and you're
like he has a strava and i was like i don't know what the talking about but okay and then lo and
dad the nike female run the night before everyone's a runner it's a very in thing right now i know the
girls are running laura lee was running connor franta sent me a dm said proud of you and i was
like oh that's cool so then i went to go look and it literally just started popping up i guess
runners on my feed connor franta just won uh ran this chicago marathon like a full marathon so i
think it's a thing people nev shulman from uh catfish ran a marathon like it just kept popping
up all these people running marathons i thought you meant the tri guy ned sure what's this ned
oh my god
i could actually oh my god if i saw that marathon oh my god i would be running the other way i'd be
like yeah he would be no we don't want you trying the marathon um it was fun they had a they said
there was a celebrity there yesterday david chokichi from baywatch he was oh that's where
he was from yeah yeah so he was there um we got stuck i think we we finished i finished 380 of
383 yes that's serious because we were in last place for a long time yeah and i was like i think
this is just our fate we lapped those two moms
yes where we passed yes i guess and then i don't know who was the last person but we didn't even
see him so but he was like 75 to moses like his thickness we won best content best photos because
we made the most stops to take photos than anyone else we were like every time every time that
there's a place where you're supposed to get water so you're supposed to run and grab the water and
go they would stop trisha to take pictures that's the pepperdine girls love them but it was like
four times like every stop yes that's why we were close to last we would have right right we would
have had i think and then we find a couple of spots that was just a beautiful view and all the
couples wanted pictures and one of the pictures of the group yeah yeah we did that i had a knee
injury too i still have the knee injury from my high school music video um there was a lot the
boobs once the boobs are out next year i'm going to be doing half marathons that's what i decided
because i think i would be able to do a half marathon but yeah not with the chest i do need
to train a little more my feet didn't hurt i wasn't tired but i was like weirdly like in shock
we were all eating the breakfast burrito we got like free breakfast burritos with ours
and we're i was standing because i was like oh we're gonna like leave soon so i was like standing
then i had to sit down because i'm like i feel like i'm in shock my body did just start to kind
of like shake a little like my stomach was shaking like
Everything was shaking, and I was like, maybe I should sit down for a minute.
I didn't feel it until we stopped.
And then when we were in the car, and then when we got home, I was just like, I don't
think I can stand up.
Like, I just felt very, like, I couldn't move.
My hips, like, everything.
I was just, like, walking like a robot.
It was very odd.
So I did have to train a little more.
But I felt alive.
I didn't feel it during it.
Like, when we were walking, talking, we're all, like, having a key.
I was like, oh, I gotta keep going, actually.
Like, I really felt that way.
I didn't feel tired.
And then, yeah, I felt tired.
When we did the sprint across the finish line.
The pictures haven't come through yet.
I keep checking to see our official photos, but they haven't.
Oh, that's really funny.
Yeah, I really wanted to post them.
We were performative running.
Anytime we saw a photographer, we'd be like, okay, let's go, let's go.
Smiles on, and run.
Well, that was some running.
That was some running.
We started out running a little bit.
I would love to run more in the next one.
I would love to run.
We did walk a lot of it, but what did you guys do?
Did you guys do anything?
Did you walk any of that 10K, that six miles?
Six miles straight for two hours.
It's all for charity, too.
I mean, that's really the main thing.
Yes.
That's the main reason.
We did it for charity, which was wonderful, and everyone kept giving us high fives.
Like, you guys are charity walkers.
Woo!
So, we did it for charity, and it was a great time.
We had so much fun, and we got to, it was like team building.
It was Oscar and Darian, which is like, I love Darian.
He's like literally the sweetest.
I got to catch up with him, and his family, and how he's doing, and then Jimmy and Dallas.
I got to catch up with them, our Grindr nominees.
But they made a great point.
Votes are split, because people would say,
oh, I voted for you on my phone for Jimmy, and Dallas on my computer.
And Dallas did tell us that he wanted to concede, so Jimmy would get the votes.
Yeah, he's like, I want people to vote for Jimmy.
I know.
I still want to campaign for both, but, you know, Dallas did say he wanted that to happen.
And he did say he was only streaming five times this year,
so he thought that Jimmy had a little more commitment.
Both of them would be great.
I would say still vote for both, but I don't know.
Maybe vote for Jimmy if that's Dallas's wish.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I know.
It's hard.
It's tough.
Also, you guys can vote for us.
The Jazz Church.
I forgot to say that at the beginning.
We're also nominated.
One of us has to get that Grindr award.
I want to see the mask.
I want to be the acceptance.
One of us has to win it.
Or all of us, honestly.
But then, I guess if Dallas wins streamer, Jimmy is part of the Jazz Trish universe,
so he would win it.
Same with Jen.
If Jen wins, Jen X Penn wins streamer, you know, at least Jimmy and an honorary member
of Dallas, we all get to share that one as well for broadcast.
Okay, that's true.
That's true.
Dallas, yeah, very much so, too.
Yeah, you're right.
Well, don't campaign for Jen.
What?
No, no.
Jimmy.
We're Dallas.
We love you, Jen, but also, Jimmy, you're Dallas.
Yes, everything is a win.
When all of us wins, we all win.
So, it was great.
I got to talk to Dallas a lot more, which was really great.
It was fun.
It was so much fun.
We just gabbed.
I mean, Jimmy, I mean, he definitely gets the most talkative, though.
He is such a good talker.
He's very good at talking.
That's why he's a good streamer, because he knows how to keep a conversation going.
It's amazing.
And it's like, never dull.
I never get bored.
I'm never like, it's great.
Well, he'll be here on Thursday's episode for our final.
Final Halloween episode.
And he can campaign more for his streamer, Griner.
We should give him like 30 seconds on the clock just for straight campaigning.
Like, bullet points.
Okay.
Why he should win.
Jimmy, prep it.
Yeah.
Prep it up.
And prep it up.
Period.
Grinder.
Prep Mr. Get it for free at Mr. dot com.
We'd love to see.
We'll be at the WeHo Pride next year on the Just Trish flow.
Okay.
Let us know.
Grinder.
Maybe in relation with Grinder, we could do Grinder by Just Trish if we are the streamer
of the podcast.
Yes, we will represent you next year.
Oh, did you see that Grinder drama though?
No.
Oh, with Grant from A Twink and a Redhead?
No.
And the Crumble Cookie CEO.
Was it manufactured drama or is it real drama?
I think it was real drama.
I thought it was a bit at first because obviously Grant from A Twink and a Redhead, they love
bits.
Like, they do a lot of bits.
They do love bits.
So sometimes it's hard to know like what's real tea and what's like a silly.
But there were many articles about it.
So I'm like, okay, it must be.
It must be real.
But Grant called out the Crumble Cookie CEO, Sawyer Hemsley, for allegedly getting him
banned from Grinder's party.
Okay.
That makes sense because he did kind of out the Crumble Cookie guy.
Yes.
Grant is the one that kind of started the whole trend.
And he, I mean, clocked the Crumble Cookie CEO's tea by saying that he was gay.
I mean, granted, as Moses clocks, whenever it happened originally, he was following Trisha
K.
Paytas on Instagram.
So.
Just.
Hot hex clues.
Was he actually in the closet or was it just not known?
I guess that's kind of the tea.
Yeah.
Maybe it was not known.
But Grant posted on TikTok that he was, he claims that he was specifically asked to be
taken off the list for the Grindr's Halloween Pleasure Ball because Sawyer Hemsley was invited.
Sawyer Hemsley, who, in my opinion, does nothing for this community.
That's Grant's quote.
Grindr, I have worked with this brand since 2022.
I mentioned y'all all the time.
You have been in our music video.
I have literally been in your music video.
I have literally been to every single Pleasure Ball for two years.
I'm like very much a part of the Grindr community.
But Sawyer, the Crumble Cookie CEO, did say that that wasn't true.
He said, hey, Grant, we've never met, but someone sent me your post and I wanted to
reach out directly.
Neither I nor anyone on my team ever asked Grindr to remove you from any guest list and
I've never discussed you or this event with anyone there.
So I'm honestly not sure where this came from.
And he did add about being outed by Grant.
I'll admit the TikTok situation was hard for me at the time, but I've moved forward and
hold no ill will.
I hope this gets sorted out and wish you all the best.
Oh, okay.
Why did he think that he didn't?
I think he heard, someone must have told him, someone must have told Grant that it was because
of Sawyer that he's not invited to Grindr's Pleasure Ball.
So it's a little, he said she's.
I think it's who is the source.
Because if you were to tell me like, you know, oh, you're not invited because Shane Dawson
doesn't want you there.
It's like, well, how do you know?
You know, if you're telling me like, CA is not going to invite you because Shane Dawson,
whatever.
It's like, okay, well, how do you know?
How did you know that information?
So it's like, who would know Sawyer and Grindr that well to tell him that information?
I know, T.
I mean, I always believe Grant.
I mean, obviously, I'm biased.
I'm team Grant because, love him.
And work together.
Love him.
He's always so great, so supportive.
And Crumble.
Kind of fell off.
Kind of fell off.
I'm never interested in Crumble cookies.
Also, yeah, he's not doing, I don't know, but I don't know.
It's hard to believe, but then I'm like, I don't know.
It's not that I don't believe Grant, I don't believe Grant's source.
Unless you tell us who the source is.
Because no shade, I also feel like Grant, more influential.
Than Crumble cookie CEO.
A thousand percent.
Twink and a redhead is way more influential than Crumble.
Yeah, because Crumble's closing a lot of their stores.
No shade, it's just factual.
Factually closing their stores.
And he's the former CEO, too, right?
He's not even the CEO anymore.
Oh, yes, he stepped down.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So now he's just like being hot and gay.
Yeah.
And no power.
Right against, right, the Crumble CEO.
So, I don't know.
But why did Grindr, why was he not invited?
Who knows?
And I don't think he got nominated for a Grindr award either.
Has he been?
I think they usually get nominated for something.
So, he knew someone at Grindr.
And now it seems like maybe that person's position has changed.
Me, just like conspiracy theorizing.
But maybe, like, he dated someone who worked at Grindr.
And now they're getting their lick back.
Me, just making shit up.
Well, I know.
I feel like one of us is dating someone at Grindr.
Because, like, how did we get all these nominations?
Or Jimmy or Dallas.
Yeah.
I was like, wait, how do we know?
Because, like, that is crazy.
Both of them.
And then us.
Either way, we'll take it.
Whoever's working at Grindr now with those nominations, thank you.
Because none of us have been nominated before.
And now we all are.
And it's wonderful.
CEO Crumble Cookie, unban him.
Unban him.
Just do the right thing.
And make those cookies better.
I don't know.
Yes.
Well, he pointed out, too, like, there's never a Crumble Pride cookie.
But you want to, like, be at the Grindr event.
So, I was like, oh, that's kind of cute.
There is never a gay Crumble cookie.
A gay Crumble cookie.
They're all kind of gay, huh?
All the cookies.
With the little sharks in them and stuff.
I mean, they're all a little bit gay.
They are camp.
But we want to see.
They could be gayer.
Let's say that.
It could be all the way gay.
You can't put a flaccid.
You can make it a rainbow.
Well, I don't know how gay you want it.
Oh, a rainbow.
Okay, yeah.
I was not thinking.
I thought you wanted, like, a rainbow.
Oh, my God.
Like, what?
If you open a box and each cookie is a different color, you know, it's like a rainbow, a rainbow
on a cookie.
Something.
Well, they missed the mark, I guess, without the pride of it all.
Well, Grant always, always, always in the mix.
He always has something going on.
Where is the Grindr party?
Where is it even happening?
Yeah, I would assume New York.
That seems like a very likely place for it to be.
It seems easier to meet up there 500 feet.
Can I have a little lemonade?
Oh, how teenage of us to be sharing a Wetzel pretzel lemonade.
Just one cup.
Just one.
We'll share it.
Oh, yes.
Love it.
Keep it for a minute.
Oh, why is that so sour and sweet?
Woo!
Is that sugar?
Yeah.
It's crazy to, like, taste sugar.
Yeah, I mean, those drinks are. Oh!
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we talked about. Was it two weeks ago now? Oh yeah. Because we were on Khloe's case,
for making fun of the situation with her and the teacher on TikTok. The TLDR, there was a teacher
on TikTok. She was commented on his TikTok being like a little flirty. It was like a whole trend
to do so. And then on the Keeping Up With The Kardashians premiere episode, she was kind of
dogging on him for the teacher thinking that you know they could date in real life. Right yeah like
ew. So we were kind of mad at Khloe after that happened because like why are you making fun of
everyday guy. But on Khloe in Wonderland, on Khloe's podcast, she went into it more and said
that he started publicly hinting that they were together or that they were seeing each other. And
then that's when she started getting uncomfortable. Oh. She said that he was putting on his stories.
I'm going to LA to see a special girl and he was alluding to come see me. He was posting screenshots
of conversations with his family about getting me an air mattress so I could sleep over for
the night. He just kept, he insinuated like he kept saying like a special girl. I think in the text they said it.
Oh okay well in that case okay let's let's verify before I say what I have to say. Oh yes yes yes so
in the group text that he posted someone in his group text said get the air mattress for Khloe.
Okay yeah that's a little weird. You're a little weird. Why did you do that? That's weird. And post
it. Also just in the group chat's weird like why are you trolling your family like it's. If he had
pictures somewhere like pictures that they were.
Like she was photoshopped into or something. Yeah so there's a lot of weird elements that I didn't know about.
No okay. But also you should have included that in keeping up with the Kardashians. Like you if you're
going to make fun of him like you should have like shown why he was being he was DTM. Right right then
we had more sympathy otherwise it's like oh my god this poor teacher. Yes that part. And now it's like
teacher you're a freak. Like why did you do that? I do love that they would get an air mattress for
her though. They're like. For Khloe. Yeah get a Brooklyn bedding. Get a roll of bed. Get something.
Like that is kind of crazy but. Oh well that is weird.
I do hate that too when someone tries to like insert themselves into this like narrative and
you're just like okay I was just being nice we don't need to be. Yeah I was just doing the TikTok
trend you know. Exactly yes. You were viral I was just being nice. Yeah I was doing a comment.
Okay well apologies. To Khloe. To Khloe. Yeah should have known. Should have known. I love that
she has her podcast still because I remember when she started it I was like she's not gonna keep
keep this up but. Yeah I thought she just got signed a lot of money to do it because I think
originally it was just like a Twitter promotional thing. Oh yeah. Like it was full episodes were
just a Twitter and I was like oh she's gonna do like five episodes because Elon paid her a lot of
money or something. But she just loves to do it. She's a podcaster. She's like I gotta talk more.
Honestly of all the people I do want to hear her talk. Yeah. The most. I did find out yesterday
from Oscar that Caitlyn Jenner. Caitlyn Jenner took like ran over someone at PCH and they died.
How come no one talked about that and how come she didn't go to prison? Like. I remember when
it happened. I don't remember this at all. Like you said something about Caitlyn because I was
like the most dangerous freeway and then you're like Caitlyn Jenner and I was like okay. The chef
from Nova would just hop in. Yeah. When we're like walking along PCH I was like I don't know
if I love just that we're walking along here. The marathon course is literally like right along it
like there's a lane is closed for us to run in the street but cars are still zooming back and
forth and I was like oh my god I hope Caitlyn Jenner doesn't drive through here because in
like 2015 or 2016 she was nearly charged for vehicular manslaughter because she did kill
someone in a car crash.
Why nearly though? She. The DA never pressed charges uh officially. Why they did that?
Everyone can come to their own conclusion. Right. Dallas said he was gonna turn himself in. He said
if that ever happened to me I would turn myself in because I'd feel so much guilt and I think so.
I think you have to have like a little repercussions like you can't. You kill someone because you're
driving recklessly. Yeah like I mean like she's like rich so she could go in a nice prison but
like serve a little time like show a little bit more. That's kind of kind of insane. Yeah. Because
it's also easy to not drive.
Yeah. I mean like you really could just I I just I really value myself as a good driver. I really am
like here you know what I mean? It's like it's pretty easy to just but especially PCH you just
really gotta watch out and people are just not watch out and we were just we were there we were
in the midst but. Yeah and Sunday it's when all the exotic cars meet up in Malibu so we walk in
we just see all those exotic cars like going by and they're probably not expecting to see
marathoners out there because even when we went to like go afterwards we got oh got a shake at
Kip. I got a shake.
I was just in it I was like you don't want an ice cream shake after that marathon that was so good.
No because I wanted the other one. Oh you got the frozen coffee at Chit Chat. Because you got it
for me once and it was so good. That's crazy. So I was just like I know I want that because it's
kind of the same it just. No a frozen coffee is different mine was like an Oreo cookies and cream
milkshake it was so delicious. In fact the one girl was like oh my god I love your videos with
Tara Yemi. I was like that's so funny. I've only done like one. So specific. Yeah. She was she was
Armenian. Yeah yeah. Tara's Persian. I was like oh are you Persian? She was no we're Armenian but
same thing.
Which I know it's not the same thing but that's what the girl told me and then she said that they
live right next to Vardhan's kebab place. Oh. Because the other one's like I loved you and
David Dobrik's vlogs which was the first time I actually heard David Dobrik and I was like oh
that's very random. But then they're like we're in Glendale we live next to Vardhan's kebabs and
I was like or Jonah's kebab I don't know who's at his book. I think it's closed regardless so.
It's closed? Yeah. Well they didn't seem to know that they seem to be like oh we're right next to
it. It's recently closed I think like last month. Oh no. That's kind of sad. Yeah it's just expensive to have a
restaurant unfortunately. Yeah yeah especially but I guess they kind of did it ran cheaply right
because they the family was running it and stuff. Yeah even so I guess the the meat profit. Yeah yeah
all of it. That's kind of sad. Rent's expensive for restaurants. They were always really nice. The
Antonian family was really nice. I really liked them. I don't know Jonah that well but like the
sister was nice. It was it was sad when it closed like you saw that the dad was crying like because
there was kind of like his dream and yeah it was sad. Oh no. I'm kind of shocked but I guess yeah I don't
know. Well that's sad. Anyways. I think they said they might do a food truck or something though.
Love that. Food trucks are so cool. They're so and we always talk about food trucks. I do love a good
hibachi burrito you know. They have that at the Knights of the Jack. Have you ever been?
No. You haven't been to the Jack? No no no. I've been to it at Christmas time. It's this big ranch
right? The Gillette Ranch. Yes and then they do seasonal events there with a lot of lights and
stuff. Yes and they have a lot of food trucks. Yes. Oh my god okay so food trucks are pretty fast. We got a pizza
in five minutes. I got my nachos in 10 minutes. My dad was in line for the Wetzel pretzel truck.
I mean the whole time we were sitting there 45 minutes and then it took like another 20 minutes
to get the pretzels out of this Wetzel's pretzels. It took us an hour. We were sitting there for an
hour. The kids were restless. Moses is annoyed. He's like we need to go. I'm like okay wait for
these pretzels. We could have just gone to the mall and got the pretzels earlier and then it
was took so long. Those food trucks too much. They have a lot of food trucks there too which is pretty
fun. Then you go walk a mile. You go walk a little mile and walk it off and it's pretty cute. That
lights. Yeah the Kardashians went too. I think they they kind of went viral a couple weeks ago
because they made a special pumpkin for Kylie Jenner and Timothee Chalamet and then they spelled
Kylie's name wrong right? Oh did they have the pumpkin? Yeah there was a whole like lovers area
so it was Kim and Louis and then it was Kylie and Timothee and I think Taylor and Travis. Oh that's
fun. Maybe next year you guys can get a pumpkin. Would love. Consider us Night of the Jack and
Becca Zamolo. Do you know who that is? That sounds familiar. She used to be friends with Colleen. Yeah
she used to be friends with Colleen. I met her when she was friends with Joshua DTV and then they
became really famous on their own. They're like a really popular like children's like they don't
do children. They don't have their children in it so much but they do children's content like the
ones like Swamp Monster you know like those kind and they would get like and they're friends with
Darmod. They would get like hundreds of millions. I like heard they bought like a private jet. That's
what I heard. Not from them but I heard allegedly that they bought a private jet. Like they're like
from it and I was like ran into them and I haven't seen them in like literally like 20 years. I was
like and she came up to me which I was really excited. I saw them and I was like oh I better
not like say anything because they probably came up to me. She was really nice. Her and her husband
and her their two kids and you just never know who you'll run into in Calabasas. That's for sure
either Rylan Adams or yeah. Oh my god. You ran into Tara also in Calabasas. Yeah. If you want to
meet celebs you guys go over to Calabasas. You'll see somebody. The Calabasas Confidential. You'll
so funny is um speaking of Calabasas and Kardashians but like I Darian started watching
like old Kardashian clips on TikTok and there was like a clip of when they used to work at their
store in Calabasas and Darian was so confused. He's like so they actually like worked at this
store and I was like yes because yeah in high school it was right next to the sandwich place
and we would go to the sandwich place. I think it's called Blue Table and then every time we
went to Blue Table we'd walk by Dash and we'd see like who's working and it was mostly Khloe.
i want to say really hardworking queen because she was yeah she was
always like i fold in some shirts you know so so okay so what year are you in high school it's 2006
um 2010 that's when i graduated and their show was when i think it started probably 2005
okay so the show was already on so that's how you knew that and then would you ever go in
i don't know 2007 is when it started um i went in like once or twice i would chris jenner had a baby
boutique also she was there a lot too that one was across the street next to the ice cream or
bakery place where she has yeah she had babies no she had babies no just a passion for baby
accessories i guess okay that's so random is the stores the stores aren't there they're not there
anymore no they obviously moved on to other business endeavors but i remember the show they
tried to make it look like they were always there especially courtney and chloe they were always
just like oh they're working at the store nine to five i don't know if that was really but they
were working without like cameras or anything which i thought was interesting
like they really would go in and i guess to feel like i don't know but i'm sure when you like grew
up rich and privileged like i want to feel like i'm working even though it's your own store that
you own so i guess they weren't suit were they that rich before kardashian because like they
had a townhouse before like yeah to me that's rich i feel like a townhouse is rich but i mean
i feel like that's like no it's still like upper middle yeah it's not like rich where you can do
nothing he was like a lawyer for oj that's a high true but he died a while he was
he's been gone a while caitlyn jenner was making money back then i don't know
from the olympics no idea the weedies the weedies box that's a good question i don't know yeah you
would think the lawyer when you go on chloe's podcast you can ask how rich i want to interview
her i would love to go on chloe's that was one and like they're on hiatus they'll get back to us
and i have still waiting that's still tbd but i would like to i would love to go on chloe's i
would just be so and on forever i'd be a bias for her i'd be like chloe can do no wrong she's the
wrong most of the time like she's usually in the right i was yeah the jordan yes yes when it comes
to men decisions a little finicky but overall i feel like she's usually the voice of reason
all things considered but we all have flaws in this world you know so what can i say i'll have
flaws yeah i guess that's maybe why i like her too is like not perfect she keeps it moving yeah
okay guys i am super excited because hulu has a new original series called the mob the trailer
has just released i am so excited to react to it
from the producers of the traitors so i am so down i'm going into this completely blind
i have not seen any of the cast i have not heard anything about this so i am so excited to react
in this family when we need to make our problems go away not harry jowsey no already he's good tv
let the game speak in oh i like this fashion there's a group of celebrities on their way
to compete in a brand new bruno from dancing with the stars
where loyalty and trust you always need a good post this is real mob life this is not for the
week romeo i haven't seen him in forever too wait i love it i love the fashion in this series of jobs
and choose a don who will have control over who gets paid if it's between us and who gets taken
out whacked being a don is yes more red wives oh my gosh
the girls are fierce i'm here to win this thing oh i'm here manipulate gas fly not for harry though
oh he's great navigate the mormon wives period god bless everyone else on the show because i came
well prepared they got messy i love it i love the messy reality tv forever she's fierce position of
don no tea no tea go because family members can pledge loyalty to a new don i'm not a psycho people
coming off team she's so good at lying i'm just playing the game oh it says harry rousey i'm gonna
be honest with our family this is nothing personal so i know kids a lot bye-bye this is war i'm ready
to strike wow me versus harry and this type of business i trusted her i mean the cash would
definitely motivate me the kissing of the ring this is camp drama you do what you gotta do you
do oh acting now if you'll excuse me it's time for mama's bubble bath
arrivederci baby oh my god i'm scared i'm scared oh my gosh i'd be terrified to be on with that
cast although parker prosy it's very much oh god i'm seated for it oh my gosh messy reality tv
stars they got the messiest of the bestiest and i love to see it wow okay so obviously if i was on
this show i'd be like oh my god i'm so scared i'd be like oh my god i'm so scared i'd be like oh my
god i'm so scared i'd be like oh my god i'm so scared i'd be like oh my god i'm so scared i'd be like
hmm who would i not trust with the money uh probably harry jousey
we said it together yes sleeping with the fishes yes i'm like you absolutely not
although he does seem ruthless and i feel like in the mob you always need one to kind of be the
the sacrificial like lamb if you will so he would be one to keep around for a little bit
an alliance builder an alliance builder definitely a mormon wife yeah i feel like she can be like
though is so cutthroat
did always give me the inside tea he knew about my own personal relationships before i did and
he'd be like hey hey girl this yeah that's true well it's cutthroat messy but also a key and
funny yes yes he caught everyone's tea early on for better or worse he kind of knew okay if i was
the don i would definitely be ruling with loyalty i think loyalty like goes such a long way so i'm
a very loyal person so if i'm the don i'm definitely gonna keep you i'm not gonna like
backstab you because as far as i know like loyalty is a big thing and like the whole mob i love the
and the way it's like shot i think it's like so beautiful i definitely also would love to be like
aligning with chelsea from selling sunset i think she's also just fierce you know i see a pretty girl
i'm just like oh wow um although the actors too like debbie i would be like you can act okay let's
like let's team up together at the end of the day i would love to be loyalty until the end even if i
end up like i don't know swimming with the fishes i still feel like i would have done my part and
how would i end a betrayal oh someone betrayed me on the mob oh i'd either cry or i would have a
one of my classic trisha meltdowns which is probably why i'm good that i'm not on it i'm
just visualizing and watching it from afar um but you know too some dubious man in there or something
would would annoy me but i think parker posey's gonna hold it down as the host i think she's like
the perfect camp key all of it um it looks great it looks like it's gonna be messy it's drama it's
camp i'm here for it you know i love a little acting a little pizzazz all these reality shows
can be so boring these days it's just like let's get some costumes let's get some fun and that's
you guys check out the mobs gonna be airing on hulu and hulu on disney plus on october 26th
be seated because you know we're gonna be discussing the first episode here um have you
seen all the drama in this new love triangle between tom brady and again with these victoria
secret angels um with he's now dating candace swanepoel she's an original one yeah she's one
of the ogs okay so more age appropriate than alex earl yes yeah um candace is 38 tom brady is 49
um but there was some drama because dumois posted that tom brady before he was dating candace was
dating another model um jones smalls and secret too yes also victoria's secret and also of course
not lost on all of us that his ex-wife is giselle bunsen another victoria secret
maybe he's an investor in a victoria secret or something how the hell he like no shade like
right now as a 50 year old i think right i'm nearly 50 year old man
like he's that hot no you haven't played on a team in so long okay of course like football
people will be like he's a legend but like i don't remember i like no one remembers him no
one cares i understand he won super bowls and stuff but like okay a lot of people yeah yeah
give us more and he seems just like a little odd like whenever i see interviews of him and stuff
i'm like okay like he was obsessed with like cloning his dog so he invested in this dna company
so he can clone his dog and i was like watching him talk about i'm like this is like a little
he is a little what exactly is he bringing to the table that all these girls are clamoring i don't
know i guess is he very rich well i guess so i guess that's where you go yeah and i guess he's
like tall but i mean there's got to be i guess when you think like rich rich men they're usually
like not attractive so i suppose he's like for a rich guy but still old i mean you guys when you're
a model yeah you can date but who are you gonna date i guess adam levine is like what they're you
know i guess i guess in comparison um but candace and jimmy are like the most attractive women in the
were like best friends so this caused some drama because after dumois posted it basically
insinuating that candace swooped in and started dating tom when he was already seeing joan and
joan kind of confirmed it because she allegedly commented on this dumois post i'm not friends
with backstabbers and then she also said uh she referenced the bravo show summer house and that's
one with sierra who she was dating someone who was like i don't know i don't know i don't know
someone then her best friend on the show went and started dating her ex yes yes so it kind of
confirms that uh candace wanna pull stole tom brady from like have a man girl like if you can
take him have him that's how i feel i mean it's the story easier said than done i know but it's
just like if you're that easily swayed between one victoria's eager blonde so i'd take him
honestly tom brady is not the catch y'all like he is not the catch like i don't know why everyone
is like whatever and honestly a man that's gonna flip flop like that i don't want him anyways
you know what I mean, like just let 'em, let 'em.
mm-hmm and his whole dating history is like a little sus with like the alex earl of it all too
i'm like okay he has been linked with obviously now candace and joan smalls but previously kim
kardashian alex earl and arena shake so that's a lot because he didn't get divorced that long
ago either yeah and now she have like he has like kids with yes he has like three kids yeah it's
like so that's kind of the guy because if this if giselle boonchin of the dating history of tom
like if it was flip i think giselle is either engaged or has been dating someone for a really
long time um like a martial arts instructor or something so she's kind of low-key that's
so specific but with her with tom brady dating like literally like six victoria's secret models
that all like look the same like younger and younger it's like that was the other if she
dated six super bowl winning athletes yo you're right people would never hear the end of it yeah
getting passed around wow yeah isn't that crazy the double standard i know but then everyone
thinks it's like so hot when a guy does it's like no like just take care of your kids like
date one person like what are you doing did someone age appropriate oh i don't like it i
would like to date someone age appropriate i would like to date someone age appropriate
i always thought he was like 69 the way he's been around for a long time i just thought he was like
way older 49 seems yeah yeah he's a little chopped to me and also like super conservative and stuff
too so none of that is like lost on me yeah and i also look like chris jenner a little bit too
that's when i first before i gave it a little shake and then when i just went but when it was
just the go before the shake and go it was chris jenner boots because it was flat and i was like
this is christian i like the eyeliner it's giving the hair you should do that sound or it's like
um do you think your smoky eye is a little too dark i'm trying something new kim is that okay
with you okay that's also what it's giving it's kind of giving that yeah i like it i was a little
startled at first i like this whole outfit it's also giving adam lambert you could give so many
different people oh my god for it uh we have one more shitty man category category for us to go
over um have you seen anything from the new love is blind yes okay have you watched you know usually
do watch it we haven't a while i've just seen the guy with the crazy looking face yes me too that's
all i've seen of it so far they call him kennedy i guess yes he is pretty diabolical so he is okay
i thought everyone like what i saw is everyone was on his side it flipped it really flipped with
a fierceness so um jack's gueli she was on the show and in the pods she got engaged to stew stewart
what a name stew stewart and it's not real so they were in the pods they ended up committing to each
other and the engagement happened and but during the face reveal it got really awkward because he
was kind of like hyping up the way he looked in the pods and he was comparing himself to like
looking like a kennedy and stuff and which is like let's stop hyping ourselves up in the pods
everybody you all are chopped and look nothing like the people you're referencing like that's
what's crazy and the whole point is do not exactly or or even imagine what the other
person looks i would probably reference myself to someone just like even worse than like what i look
like so that way they would really because it's like you don't want to reference yourself to
someone hotter you want to give someone like you kind of could look like but like less i don't know
people yeah also yeah just don't say anything just don't reference at all yeah and he just is like
he was really cocky so he was really cocky he thinks he's obviously like super attractive and
he kind of had like a checklist of like what he wanted in a girl as well and obviously kind of
picked himself up so when the face reveal happened it got super awkward you could tell like she
was not into it but stew stewart was feeling it and he was like grinning he was teasing yeah and
they all call me kennedy she's like jackie kennedy which is crazy i was like damn do his face do his
face yes and then um after that happened like after they meet each other they filmed that or
she just ghosted like she fled she fled the show she did not want to go to mexico with him she was
not returning
producers calls the producers had to break it to him that she is not interested in being with him
anymore well they even say that they're like she's leaving the show immediately because then he's like
okay so are we engaged still or no and they're like well she's done with the show so like you
have to figure that out is what they told him because i was like and he was being serious i
thought he was kind of joking at first too and i was like he's like well you'll have to figure that
out because she's she's left i guess he's asking you know does she have some emergencies she's sick
they had to leave the show immediately i would just be like oh okay i guess i guess yeah i guess
he wouldn't especially because she did accept the proposal why did she do that she's just like i feel
her because you know that's me i like freeze and like people please him and there's cameras too i'm
like yeah and then just ghosting that's so me i don't know how to handle stuff like that i would
run away it's crazy it's one thing to accept two plumbers coming to your house another thing to
accept a proposal out of so someone proposed to you now and it's not darian you're just gonna say
yes because you're gonna freeze
i think if i if i was in this predicament and love is blind like in the pods thinking one thing
the face reveal happens because i've been there when i was like talking to someone on grinder and
you think that they look one way you get there they look completely different and then that's
right their apartment is crazy the vibe is deranged but i'm like i'm here i don't know how to get out
of the situation let me get it over with as fast as possible so i like freeze people please whatever
it does to it takes to get out of here and then once i'm out i'm like blocked never gonna be on
this up again yeah i can't be like that i i'm getting better with like i'm really bad at saying
no i just ghost usually i don't even accept or anything i'll just be like let me get back to you
and then never get back but yeah she said that she went completely into flight mode she said i
gotta get out of here this is not right um and but she did say it wasn't specifically about his
physical appearance it was kind of just everything at the time and she said she did wish she handled
it better i guess they do end up linking back up to me discuss yeah did you see anything about that
because i have not i knew they did but i think they are they start seeing each other again from
everything i've seen okay so they were still engaged a valid question i guess he had and
he is super cocky though he does seem like a d-bag now on twitter i keep seeing people like
they'll photoshop or face in his face or whatever to have like facial hair and be like
she's just not seeing the potential they are the equal rank like they're both sixes like and
they are perfectly adequate couple and she like they're turning it so misogynistic for her to be
like not into him they're like she's not above him like she's not seeing the potential if you just
give him like a mustache or a beard like he can easily be a seven or eight people say that and
there's also guys saying it too so i'm like okay you guys sound really gay right now but okay because
he's really odd he has a weird smile he's like no he's creepy he definitely has creepy looking
yeah no his proportions are horrible yeah i mean he definitely is getting scary but and he's like
very cocky too about like how wealthy he is like he in the pods or with even with other guys would
talk about how much money he had growing going to private school playing polo someone did investigate
his job he is an engineering job and like um i guess he makes an estimated like 200 000 a year
um and because he works for he's an engineer for shark ninja that's not very wealthy it's not like
billionaire status or like air to like oil or something 200 000 a year yeah
i don't know i want people to brag about their riches in my opinion is they're not that rich
not to go back into book promotion mode but my first person i considered a boyfriend here in
l.a would always tell me he was rich he's like daddy's got so much money daddy's so rich he drove
like a porsche i was like 10 years old but yeah i was always having to overdraw my bank account to
get a bucket of kfc chicken for him he's like can you go pick up some kfc chicken and be 40 bucks
and i didn't have 40 bucks so my account would always overdraw 35 then he'd be like can you pick
up some mashed potatoes and chicken and cook some tonight at the grocery store and i'd have to pay
another 40 bucks so i keep overdrafting and i was like where's all this money that daddy says he has
like i'm not seeing it and he would always break everyone like i've got a porsche i've got a range
rover i got a beach front where's that money where is it because i was paying for every fast
food meal that we ever ate and i was overdrafting and i was going to the strip club at night and
then he was like oh could you put gas in daddy's car and you're just like where the hell is your
money do you know what i mean like it was one of those things so i side eye this guy this guy gives
me that same ominous vibe like that where i'm like if you have to talk about money how rich your
family is if your name is stew stewart if your name is stew stewart it's not stew getty okay
it's like we uh we don't know you're not the gillette ranch owner i'm knight of the jack like
stew stewart who are you that's a fake name someone should do some background check on him
because that's not even real is probably the most dubious dating show as well too yes so we also mind
you last time a woman i'm sorry i'm on this like patri i inside patriarchy kick but the last time
a woman hyped up her appearance with megan fox they would not let that woman live you know what
i mean on a spike you're hyping up her own appearance but this guy's like yeah actually
he's not that bad like he's pretty hot like no he's creepy and that girl did look like me and
fox and she still looks like fox now she's even like cuter now than she was on the show so it is
misogynistic i think guys i think love is wine is guy demographic it does feel like a lot of guys
on twitter at least are watching it because i do see a lot of guys and i'm like because like girls
i don't know if we're like i was watching it i kind of got over it are gays watching it no there's not
really gays but guess what gays i have a dating show coming don't date alone coming soon but um
yeah it's like who's watching the show you're not anymore are you no i kind of fell off like
sometimes you would actually hype it up to me and then okay let me give it a go and it's like
it is i would watch it like doing other things like either cleaning or working out or something
i would just have it on but the guys just get worse and worse and worse and worse losers like
losers and the girls all have something to offer the guys they're always the same like
you said they're always like braggadocious they say they have money they say they're
hot and none of that is true it's and then they criticize the women i think the first
seasons. People didn't really understand yet the structure of the show. So they really went there
to find somebody to get engaged to. And they really were careful about choosing that person
and interviewing people. And then slowly people understood, I just need to get selected. If I
met with somebody, I make it to the rest of the show. I get to be famous. I get to, you know,
get all that part. So then it became a race to like, I just need somebody to choose me and somebody
to, you know, on both sides. So it became, and then we saw it, we just felt it. It wasn't genuine
anymore. The conversations people had and choosing and meeting. And then suddenly there was just like
one after one, like getting engaged like so quickly. And people were so devastated, not
because the person didn't like them, but because they didn't get engaged. They're like, oh no,
I'm not going to be on the show. So I think now people are just walking in, knowing exactly the
target of getting engaged as fast as possible, no matter what. And then you end up getting engaged.
Yeah. And then you end up getting engaged as fast as possible, no matter what. i'm kind of over these these kind of shows like get some more interesting people but honestly
they probably can't either because again if this guy was such a good catch if he was a kennedy
jk jr wouldn't be on the show if he was still alive you know what i'm saying like he's not
gonna be in love is blind so also think about that girls are going on the show and the problem
is is i do think the girls are genuine like i would love to go on that show i think like i do
think they are genuine and like they could find both like love and like a career um they just
met with such losers that are like i need to do pilates five times a week it's like oh my god i
forgot about that guy oh my god yes you're right but there's always a guy like that every season
and they always want to know how much they work out and if they like the gym and it's just like
what oh my god that reminds me every time i'm at the gym now i always think of i know it's like
three weeks old at this point but the shane gillis snl monologue about women's workout clothes oh my
god i'm like pissed every time i go in there because i look around and like all like there's
so many good gym jokes to make because like all these guys are on some kind of like peptide
steroids something grunting doing the most but like not lifting a lot of weight just like so
overbearing wearing crazy ass outfits the crazy like bright colored this and that mismatching
shoes and everything i'm like there are jokes to be had here like the guys here are actually
deranged like there's crazy over the guys at the gym like it's like i get like why was he
targeting like women
dressed like that at the gym.
I think he just hates women
and also probably
I think he
his ex-fiance
who was like a lot younger
also was posting
about how terrible he was too
so I think he's just
like he's
and then I followed her
and I always forget
people can see
if I follow them
because then she's like
Trisha Paytas just followed me
and I was like
but I was following you girl
because I hate your ex
and I was trying to see
all the stuff that you were
dragging him through the mud
like in the captions
she was like dragging him
so I was like
but you are beautiful
you are great
way better than he could do
it was just so funny
because I don't
I just forget
because I don't ever see when people are following me.
So I just, I think I can just follow people.
But I kind of love, I kind of thought that was a key
that she was like, oh, she was excited about me following her.
I was like, girl, why were you dating Shane Gillis?
But you're out, you're out, you're free.
So that's good.
I saw, talking about horrible men,
Chris D'Elia defending Shane Gillis.
Again, some men need to not enter the chat.
And that was one of this.
He's like, you guys, everyone's saying like,
women are whores.
Where's the joke?
Where's the joke?
That's not the joke.
Like the way he talks is so, he's like, the joke is.
And then he was trying to say a joke after, which was, like, not even funny.
I was just like, didn't you just, like, sleep with a bunch of your fans?
Like, didn't you, like, while you were, like, married and having a kid?
Like, just why are you chiming in on this?
Like, he is an awful person.
He's misogynistic.
Don't try to be like, you guys aren't getting the joke.
We got the joke after.
Still not funny.
The setup wasn't funny.
Like, nothing's funny.
You haven't been funny in forever.
Like, I just hate, hate when awful men also jump in.
Also, if you, if Chris D'Elia is ever defending me, it's a wrap.
Like, let me just walk off.
Because it's over.
Never defend me.
When the worst person alive has to defend you,
mama, you're on the losing side.
Chris Lee goes to my gym, too.
And Chris Lee's been around.
I've seen him around.
And he has no eye contact.
I'm like, granted, I also don't do eye contact.
I'm also like, let me not look.
Because I just.
with their hands i don't know how a paw works oh my god and then what the parents are just
stopping them they're like grabbing it yeah yeah they start fighting the coyote genuinely um wait
our coyotes always like run away from us like the ones around usually they do i guess if they do get
really hungry like you know we they were here first so i see why on earth and in the vicinity
like obviously before homes get developed you know it is wildlife so you guys aren't even in
the mountains like that we are in like the hills coyotes are everywhere yeah they're in korea town
we would see that not on that lake not on the island oh it's an island well there's no coyotes
you're saying they're everywhere they're not there most of the america is not an island we
never had coyotes in hollywood we never had them definitely in hollywood by the grove
there's definitely yeah where are they coming from i never saw
the hills i always would walk to like whole foods and get my green juice in the morning
yeah but it changes all the time like there's more and more and more they come into the
city more and more yeah as they lose resources and food they have to start you know getting into
busier areas to find food like dogs and stuff are they a dying breed they're not at all they're very
successful yeah they're not like endangered or anything but you know maybe they should be
they're taking babies and dogs right you have to sacrifice yeah and tweeks and your boyfriend
the fact that i was following him i'd be scared too maybe that was a child or something which
is not that small i will say like oscar describes darian as if he's like two feet tall like he is
like my height like he's kind of like a normal height when i say i'm kind of like you want to
say tiny i mean like he's just like he is shorter but also just like just like normal yeah yeah
bulky he's muscular but like tiny waist it's like yeah the waist is tiny but you guys have very
similar strong nice legs they were very athletic and strong they actually looked very similar like
i couldn't tell the difference so i took pictures of both of your legs i was like why you guys
look the same and i just
realized too on the walk i was there was one point where i was behind and i saw all four of you and
i was just like damn y'all are just like really beefy what's a beefy gay what's that call like
there's a twink a twonk like what is a beefy gym going with nice legs it depends there's like a
cub if you're beefier than otter if you're a little bit slimmer okay yeah and then there's
like twonk if you're a twink but also muscular okay yeah muscle gay is the general you're the
muscle gays that's the general thing yeah and then there's like a twonk if you're a twonk but also
looks what you guys wear. I know I was asking at Hot Topic today,
I'm like, oh, what size do you? And he said XL. I was like, okay,
pajamas, he's like, or pants are like small.
I was like, small? You're so
tiny. Well, they're stretchy.
Dang. Maybe I could have been in a medium
then. Moses was trying to find pants for me and he's like, they only have
medium. I'm like, I need at least a large, but
maybe, maybe I would be a medium
or manifesting a medium anyways,
but I can't wait to see what we got.
Can't wait to get to that.
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episode. Alright, so this is like
a little bit of a hard transition, and
obviously
like, really
really hard to talk about, and
obviously it's very sensitive. It's Moses'
family. It's a hard
boundary we've drawn for
literally the past five years to
never, ever
mention.
Ethan and Hila, we
just, it was just something we set
five years ago, obviously. I went through a really
dark time in 2021, a really
awful psychosis that was
it was definitely the most like, altering
thing for my brain to go through. It was really, really
difficult, and I think from that
time, I was like, I cannot engage
anymore and talk about them
anymore, and it was just really hard
and it was hard for both me and Moses, obviously, so
we kind of made that decision together
like, for my own mental health and stuff
and, you know, I pleaded at the time
if we could just call a truce and to never talk
about each other anymore, especially because we were family
and there was other family involved that's like, not online
and just like, make it easier for
everyone. Obviously, I was not met with any
grace or compassion when I was
just like, I sent private texts and I was just like
please, please, like, I am like, spiraling
I'm mentally unwell, like, can we
just end this? And I was
met with like
zero grace or compassion from either
of them, and they said, we'll never stop, you don't get
to tell us what to do, and ever since then
I realized, like, it will never stop
and
oh my gosh, it's like, really hard
um
and I
again, I stopped not out of fear
of them, although it's been living
in fear for the past, like, five years
just always worried about
them talking about us at any given
time, and because we made
that decision to set the boundary to not talk about them, we
could never defend ourselves
there was just no point, there was just no point
it was, from the end of Frenemies
it was just lies, and nobody wanted
to hear from me, nobody wanted to believe me
um, I've been just
ridiculed for the past five years
about everything from
my child molestation
to being accused of lying
about fertility, just, it was
just, it was never ending, um
so, obviously
all the stuff that happened over the past weekend
um, was just a
a lot of emotions, and I'm gonna let Moses
do, like, most of the talking, obviously I have, like
a lot to say, but I, I've been
doing, I talk about Frenemies in my
memoir, this book has been two years in the making, so I did
not know, obviously, any of this happened, we didn't know any of this
and literally until everyone else found out, like
some people had to tell us, um, and
I mentioned, it's mostly
it's always between me and Ethan, there's a few
mentions of Hila in the book, but
all the interviews I've done that will be
coming out in the next couple weeks were done
prior, where I talk about
um, just Ethan for the first
time, cause again, it really was between me
and Ethan, I've literally probably met Hila
literally a handful of times in the
nine months that I did Frenemies, so
it was always between me and him
um, and
it was hard, it's been hard cause I was
terrified of retaliation
and just lies again
and just more smear campaigns
and it was, it was really, um, it was
hard to talk about, but it's
I thought if I was writing a memoir, I can't
just skip that chapter
I wanted to be able to talk about it
in a
clear head, and what I've talked
about, again, before all this happened, so keep
in mind all these interviews happened before
what I talk about is
having a real, like
fondness, fond memories of the time
of Frenemies, everything during Frenemies
whether we were, he was, I was being
triggered, or I was triggering him, or we were awful people at the time
in my mind, Frenemies
was a fun time for me, like it was
like a great time, those nine months
it was the aftermath of Frenemies that
destroyed us, and destroyed
me as a person, and
lost all respect for
Ethan, you know, it, there was
it was awful, it was, it was really awful, so I've been
talking and just sharing my
my view
of all that time, and taking my fault
and accountability of the end of Frenemies, and the
way I treated Ethan and
Hila, but it was the aftermath
that I really wanted to make
clear that, clear my name, because
there was just a lot of lies said, all that
to say I'm kind of like going off track a little bit, because
it's, whatever
it's, you can read in the book, you can read it in interviews
but obviously everything that's happened
in the past, you know, 72
hours, whatever, it's hard, it's
hard to talk about, I see a lot of people
that were wronged by Ethan, you know, obviously
like, celebrating
rejoicing, you know,
I don't feel that way
about it, obviously, because it's, again, it's
Moses' family, we also have
kids the same age, like I couldn't imagine
we talk about it all the time
and obviously
with Moses' family too, it's like there's
just sensitivity involved, of course
I will just say
one more thing, personally, I just, you know, I hate
to say that I felt
like I just
kind of felt relief that maybe
it's over when he announced the podcast
was over, I just felt like relief and that makes me
really like sad and like
I'm really like ashamed to say that
because it's an awful situation
like the way that
that had to end, but I've been praying
truly, truly every day
for the past five years for like
it just to end, I would reach
out to everybody that I possibly could
anyone I knew at YouTube, my agents
like anyone, anyone, obviously we
tried through Moses' family to get them to stop, we
tried everything and not only was
it met with zero grace and zero compassion but just
more retaliation, it would just make them more upset
if we tried to get help and
it just was this nightmare
so I just felt, once I saw that the podcast
was ending, I felt relieved and
it's a really sad thing to say and
so it was just
a lot of emotions and obviously
I can just defer to Moses on
the rest of this but
you know
I feel like I'm pretty healed and pretty
we got through
the storm, that was
what we dealt with for the five years
barely because it just
this past year it still was brought up, things were
still brought up and I was just like God it's like never gonna
end so it feels like
the end to this like harassment
and it felt like
relief but again these are people we know
it's Moses' family that he's
known, anyways
I can let you take it, it's like someone he's known
his entire life, everyone involved
and he's lost the most
he's said the least in all of this
Moses has never said anything
publicly ever about
any of them, like anything that's happened
he sat quiet
and he said the least and has lost
the most and
you can just
you can just say what you
would like to say
I mean I made the
decision to never talk about
family
for you know
drama, for views, for
whatever it is that they were doing
and
for me it was like I chose
to go no contact with them
and the rest of the family
because of that because I was like
okay
okay, I know what I'm not going to do, but I can't control what they're doing.
And it's hurting my wife, it's hurting my children.
Stuff that's being said are like blatant lies that people just believe and run with.
Even now, you know, even now, with all of this, people are still like,
in the comments, repeating lies that were said.
So yeah, I've been no contact with Gila for like five years.
So I have nothing to say about her, I don't know.
Like, I literally don't know, I haven't been around, we haven't talked.
But Ethan, to me, is not part of the family anymore.
So I can definitely talk about it.
And at first, he did everything he could to destroy my family.
And he was successful at that, unfortunately.
And after that, he did everything he could to destroy his own family.
And he was successful at that, too.
And when we heard the news, people were wondering, what's their reaction?
I want to be a fly on their wall.
I'm like, I was in tears because I read the statement from my sister.
And, you know, it's like, even though I don't talk to her, I don't hate anyone.
And I don't, you know, I understand where people come from.
I understand why people do what they do.
And it's unfortunate, but I understand.
And I still have memory in my body of my sister.
You know, it's my youngest sister.
We were very close.
And when I read the statement, I felt the pain.
And it was very, very painful to read and to find out what was happening.
I warned her in the past that he's a liar and he lies.
And, you know, it's OK.
I don't expect her to choose her brother over her husband.
And I understand that, you know, she had to stay and do what she needed to do.
But at this point, the lies have just. You know, got to a point where it literally destroyed him and his family and kids and everyone involved.
So it's like a very. And from her statement alone, because, again, I don't know anything just from the statement.
It just sounds like the lies were. He was lying to her over a period of time and trying to. I don't even know what he was trying to do.
Because, obviously, it's not a sustainable situation.
So, obviously, something was about to happen.
And. Instead of doing the right thing, he did it the wrong way all the way.
And got to a point where all of it was just out online for everyone to see.
And it's painful to see all those videos and all. Because none of us were watching.
But when you see all those videos and seeing my sister being humiliated like that by him on the show for months and months.
It's very. It's very dark.
It's very dark to see those things.
It's very dark to think that somebody was going through that.
And. Yeah, I mean, that's. That's one part of it.
But for us, we know that darkness because we've been in it.
I mean, the amount of lies that exist out there online about me that all come from one source.
It's quite unbelievable.
Like, if you really think about it, you know.
From all the people I know in my life, people I worked with, people that. There's nothing but, you know, like. You know, we're hardworking, we do what we do, and we stay in our lane, and we're not like people that. But there's just. There was always this one source that just kept spewing out lies.
And there was, unfortunately, an audience that would just take it and run with it and use it as ammunition to make our lives miserable.
And even now, they still keep doing it when. I don't know.
I don't know what wake-up call people need to have to understand that somebody is a liar and they lie to them.
And simple things that are easy to prove.
And that's the thing.
Nobody ever takes enough time to research or check or anything.
And obviously, with their politics, you know, they got a lot of heat for it, and rightfully so,
because it's awful the things that were said and the stance they were taking.
But then when they saw that we were not getting the same heat, because we don't have the same beliefs, we're not the same people.
And they were. They were trying to impose on us.
Like, no, you are.
And he would make straight up. I'll just give you one example of a lie.
And say, oh, he was a pilot, and he was in combat, and he killed people and stuff like that.
Completely made up lie.
And it's something you can check.
It's not something that is, you know, my word or his word.
I never graduated from flight school.
I never was a pilot.
I've never been in combat.
I never hurt anyone.
I never shot a gun on anyone.
Like, I've never done any of those things.
And something that I. I've never done any of those things.
I'm proud of that I never hurt anyone.
It's something that I'm conscious about and aware of.
And I put intention into everything I do in my life.
So when somebody spews lies like that, and then people come at me with those lies.
And then, you know, you're not. You can't defend yourself in comments of things.
And you can't. And so you just have to take it.
And we've been taking it for a long time.
And for me, it's the only thing that I hope people get from everything that's happening now
is to understand, wake up and see who's been lying to you, what are the lies.
Check for yourself.
Like, go and see what, you know, from the things you've heard about people.
Because I'm one of many, many people.
We are.
Of many, many people that have been hurt and harassed by this whole. I don't know what to call it, you know.
Organization of harassment.
I mean, like, to me, that's. The idea of all of that starts over there.
And it's just like. Every week, there'll be a different target.
And everyone will just rush to harass those people.
For whatever reason.
Sometimes political, sometimes personal, sometimes just for fun.
Like, it just. But that whole thing is just so dark.
And the people that participate in it and the environment
and, like, what is it for?
Like, what are we doing here?
It's not entertainment.
It's not joy.
It's really the. People that want to feel good by hurting other people
and want to feel good to feel that they have power
and want to feel good that they can do. That they can get to people and do stuff to them.
I think that's why when we stopped, when we went no contact,
it was like a trigger because they didn't get what they wanted.
And it was hard for them.
It's hard for people.
It's hard for people of that nature to be ignored
and not get the response they want
and feel that they're doing something to you.
So anyway, there's a lot to say about this.
But for us, like, you know, my family, I don't talk about them.
Ethan, you're not part of my family anymore.
And you're just, you know, this is your own doing.
We just sat quietly and waited until you. finished doing what you were doing
because we obviously knew it was not good or positive.
And I think a big thing to note is Ethan blames everybody for his everything.
We got blamed.
I mean, he blames everyone for anything.
If it's us, it's Hasan, it's whoever.
It's like, oh, I'm blaming Trisha's fans for this.
I'm blaming. Like, he blames everybody.
And a friend of mine, he says, it's because of Moses.
Oh, Moses doesn't have to his family because of Trisha.
Like, there's a blame for everything, right?
And I think the biggest thing to take away,
especially now we can see,
Ethan's self-destruction is because of Ethan.
And it's always Ethan.
So I'll say what I know.
The end of Frenemies is obviously Ethan ending it.
Ethan, we did that final Frenemies.
We made up.
Everything was fine.
But he continued to lie about me.
Everything.
Like, everything.
He lied to the crew and said, I want to fire.
Like, everything is Ethan's self-destruction.
This right here.
My first thought when I heard this is,
he's probably going to find a way to tell. He told his family all the time.
It's because Trisha and Moses are pro-Palestine.
That's why we're getting hate.
Because they're turning against. Like, they don't support Israel.
Like, everything was our fault.
CPS, one of your family members calls me and says,
you guys need to end this.
Like, your fans are calling.
See, we haven't talked about them in five years.
So when this came out, my first thought was like,
and that's crazy.
It sounds like, oh, there's. I'm sure there's a way Ethan's going to blame us
for him cheating or something.
Oh, like this.
I don't know.
Like, but everything that Ethan has done
and destroyed is because of Ethan.
It's all Ethan.
Everything starts and ends with Ethan's lies
and self-destruction.
Like, I've never seen anything like it.
And the enablers and everyone around him.
And I guess the one good thing is the enabling's done,
I guess.
He doesn't have a sister anymore to be. Or your sister, I'm sorry, his wife anymore.
He let to be blind to it all.
And I get it.
Like you said, she's not online.
She's going to believe Ethan.
Sure, I guess.
You know, the crew was always enabling him.
And I hope they've seen the light.
Of course, they all seem to be turning around.
Like, I think at some point, like, the thing is lifted.
So it's like, at the end of the day,
and I hope Ethan himself. I mean, we were saying, like, at the very least,
maybe there's some, like, rock bottom
where you, like, grow from.
And you can be like, damn, I really am.
I think that last episode of Frenemies,
he was like, damn, I really. Yeah, I did.
I did live.
I never would have told the crew his fight.
Like, all of this.
And that's such a minuscule thing.
I'm saying. I'm only saying that in comparison to the. Also, this is like the downfall of everything.
The podcast, their businesses, his marriage.
I mean, it's Ethan.
It's all Ethan.
Say whatever you want about any other speculation.
But it's like, it's all. It's all his choices that he's made.
And it sucks.
When Frenemies ended, like, I had no part in it.
Like, I never told you what to do.
I never told them what to do.
I never, there's no part of it.
Me and Hila were not part of that.
And then he lied to Hila.
And I was trying to tell Hila, you know, like, we shot the last episode of Frenemies.
And he admitted over there that it was his fault and that he admitted to that.
And we apologized.
And we were now going to be in good terms and move on from this.
Like, we were happy that day.
And then when he realized what the backlash would be that he will get when people find out that he lied about that,
he decided not to release the last episode.
And the truth never came out.
But to mask the lie, you have to come up with other lies.
And who's the one person that's not talking and defending themselves?
That was me.
So it was like, no, it's Moses' fault.
Like, we're more upset with him than with her.
And I was just like, what are you guys even talking about?
Like, I have no relationship with you.
I've done nothing.
I had nothing to do with Frenemies.
I had nothing to do with any of your arguments.
I never told anyone what to do or how to go about it.
Everyone chose their way of going about it.
And then to be blamed for it.
And even now, you know, people will keep repeating that.
You know, when people talk about Frenemies, they're like, no, it's between Hila and Moses.
It's a much deeper thing.
There's not.
There's not.
There's really not.
Hila couldn't care less that Frenemies was over.
He tried to blame her, like, blame her too.
And it's like, no, she didn't care.
You didn't care.
No one cared.
He would put out there lies about, like, me trying to upset my family and the relationship I have with my family.
He created a whole persona that his fans believed into.
And he just kept stacking into it.
You know, he's a creep.
He's awful.
He hates his family.
He hates his mom.
He hates his sister.
He's the end of Frenemies.
They're like, all of those things were, not even one of them is true.
None of them.
And then, you know, as those things were happening with Frenemies,
I found out that he was talking badly about me to my family for a while.
So it was hard to even correct that.
You know, when you, when somebody hears stories and stories and stories,
it's hard to go back in there and correct all of those and be defensive, right?
Then you come off as defensive that you're, and you're in the wrong.
And that's why there was damage done that I couldn't repair.
And I was just like, okay, I'm just going to step away until you guys see the truth.
Because I'm not going to be fighting here for the truth.
You know, I'm your family member.
If you don't believe me, you take his word for it.
That's for you to live with.
And now I hope everyone does see what the truth is.
Who is a liar and who is not.
And just, I don't know.
Again, it's hard.
This is not, we don't wish it on anyone.
But my choice to be in no contact will remain.
It's not something that's going to change now.
Because, you know, you don't know where I knew for a long time,
that at some point their reality will shatter because just the nature of human being,
especially when you become famous young, it really stops your development as a person.
And the biggest developments I had were much later in life, like, you know, when you're like 30 and stuff.
Like, so I think at this point, reality has been shattered, especially for my sister.
But I don't know when you pick up the pieces and you build back a new world and a new reality you live in.
I don't know what that reality is yet.
And if I'm part of it, you know what I mean?
So what she's going through now, I don't think she needs me or needs to hear from me.
I'm the last person that she needs at this point.
But, you know, for me, it's like, if people understand what happened and make amends,
my door is always open because I don't hate anyone.
And I don't have any, like, I believe anyone is capable of change and anyone is capable of growth.
But you have to see it.
You have to see that it's there and it's real because I have a family to protect and we've been hurt badly.
And we're not taking risk with our family and with our children.
So, you know, my door is open, but I'm not on the other side of the door.
You have to walk in through that door.
You know, I'm not going to risk it again because we just don't know.
We haven't been in no contact for so long.
So we just don't know where people stand.
And I just do know.
And I know that, you know, just a month ago, they were making fun of me on their channel, all of them together, happily so.
You know, so I know that part.
Just a cooking video, like a cooking video.
That part I do know.
And what would even, that's not entertaining.
That's not, like, why would somebody even do that or go through the lengths of doing that?
That baffles me.
And that's what it is.
It's hurtful.
It's not even like attacking anything that we're doing.
It's like you cooking and then just making fun.
And it's just, it's a lot.
It's all a lot.
But I mean, the person that Ethan.
Ethan has become since Frenemies.
I really enjoyed him when we did Frenemies.
And this person that he's been in the past, like, year, just awful to everybody.
Just trying to financially ruin people and all the lawsuits and just the nastiness.
All those times he's berated you online, you know.
I think family was always like, oh, they have kids.
It's like their kids should be together.
It's like our kids will have to see all the times he said awful, awful things to you and harassment and just.
Yeah, everything he did is online.
The profanities.
He will live forever online.
And that's something that one day.
Our kids will watch and see him.
He's just.
And but even all this now, I never.
I think both of us or else, you know, we both talked about never thought this would happen.
Obviously, people have seen 20 years of him and Hila having a great relationship.
So it's like whoever this person that he's become, I don't know why.
I don't know what it is behind it.
I don't know what the change is.
But he's a really awful person.
I mean, he's always been a liar.
This person now is awful, destroyed companies, his family, everyone that he would judge and that he would judge.
He hated and chastise he's become.
So I don't know.
I don't know why.
But he's like he is like this monster of a person and obviously needs help.
And maybe maybe he will.
Maybe there's something going on, but he needs to get some help and like stay offline because it's I mean, this is this is this is without a doubt the most shocking thing Ethan has done, in my opinion, that I've witnessed online is this.
It's the last thing I thought he would have done.
It's like, damn, you're really ruining everyone's lives.
He was kind of standing by him through all of it.
But to.
To turn on like Hila through all this, the one person who was OK with you being an awful human being like you have kids with, you have a family, you have a business with like to do that to her, the betrayal to her like you're done, like you're you're just done.
You'll have zero person.
She was the last person to kind of like maybe have faith in you or be a partner or at least at least shield you because she had so much stake involved with you.
And now you have no one.
And it's like if that's not a wake up call, I don't know what is.
And it's all.
It's awful.
It's shocking.
It's awful.
And like physically makes us sick.
Talk about it.
I hate talking about it in this capacity.
I felt like I was taking control back of my power narrative when I told my story in the book.
And I thought I was being really respectful in interviews about it and talking fondly about it.
But he's really just become a monster of a person.
And there's the Ethan I thought I knew or that I liked or enjoyed spending time with during frenemies is just completely gone.
And it's really sad because I think a lot of people found him funny and entertaining and don't know what happened.
But thoughts.
I don't know.
I mean, it is like so crazy to hear you guys talk about it because you never do.
Weirdly, I was kind of I just remember that text when you wanted to hire me for frenemies.
And I remember the day after seeing you say that it's over.
So it was weird to kind of be a part of it in a weird way back then.
And to be here with you now, it is oddly full circle.
I mean, I've seen.
You know, you were that patient zero in a way because what happened to you ended up happening to Hassan and ended up happening to multiple other women who are once fans of him that he turned on and wanted to financially destroy and the targeted hate and everything like I've seen.
I've seen it happen to a lot of people.
So it's not even just you.
And I think the fact that so many people were celebrating the end is is very telling as well.
And it is like you said, it is fitting that.
Time is like the ultimate truth teller.
And I think, you know, there, of course, are people that are going to say this, this and this about you.
But if you see where you are now and what you've accomplished and I don't know, I at least see you.
You can never make amends for what has been the past.
But I see you actively choose every day to, like, be a good person, like genuinely.
And I at least see you every day.
Like, try to be a good person.
The things you've done for me personally, you know, that people have no idea.
Like, you don't do it for clout or attention or for optics.
Like, you do stuff for me and everyone who works for you that no one has any idea about.
Yeah, it's been weird to, like, be on the outskirts of this and, like, weirdly, you know, on the sidelines as all this happened.
But like I said, I've seen if you've seen it to everybody, you know, if it's not you, it's Hassan.
If it's not Hassan, it's Frogan and Denims.
And Casey Tron and Cutie Cinderella.
Like, there's just so many people.
So, yeah, it is.
The timing is insane.
I think that was the first thing I sent you was, like, how?
Like, when the first interview is coming this week and you were so trepidatious about what the retaliation would be for the book.
Even though you were there, all things considered.
It is really insane timing.
I'm glad everyone can kind of see what we saw
for so long you know just manipulating the truth and so uh manipulating people like this i think he
had a image that he really wanted to uphold and it was funny like when you accidentally liked a
comment about frenemies returning and then he was nice to you for like a week because he thought
there was possibility of reconciliation and then when that wasn't the case how quickly he turned
again and you know always he yeah just the way that they would pick some a new villain of the
week or the month and how it was like relief when all of a sudden when you know it was like a wheel
of like enemies to pick who we they would hate every month and when it wasn't you one month
it's like thank god you know but when it was it wouldn't end it would be weeks and weeks of
harassment and i just was like at my yeah what's then and when all the lies it's like
me firing the crew was just me wanting oscar and he like approved that or him at the last episode
in front of me is when
dan was there and i think that's when he finally got caught when i was like show me a text i said
if dan's there i'm not showing up and he couldn't find it and i think that's when dan
what i would assume like saw it so it's just gosh you guys and you and you the truth like
there's people that were there witnesses about the race for the crew was supposed to get that
there was text messages and him being like i don't know where she got just so much there's
there's obviously so much more and when i go on my book tour we had talked about already it was
already pre-decided we were going to go into the chapters especially with like oscar and there was
a whole like segment there because ultimately this is like not about us what's happening right
now um i think it's just like you said so many people were hurt and unfortunately are celebrating
because they've been hurt and this is it's been like this like looming evil on the internet and
it's not just a beef it's not just drama it's like life ruining for so many people whether it's
financially reputation lies that you just can't combat like it feels like there's an end to this
um and yeah i mean hila doesn't deserve to get cheated on obviously we're no contact for a reason
with both of them but um at least it's like at least it feels like it's over people see ethan's
true colors including hila the one person who had his back weirdly through all this so i guess thank
you both for thank you oscar for your insight you always put it well and that is that is very well
well said because i've been talking about it a lot and i've been talking about it a lot and i've been
talking about ethan and i think i talk about it in such a different nuance and maybe with a little
fear before um of what he would say so i was kind of talked about it kind of nicely and always made
sure to keep hila out of it because he'd always try to throw hila and moses in the mix when it
was just between me and ethan and um yeah and i i don't i don't have any yeah i don't know and
thank you i guess for staying because i know you never want to talk about it publicly and
no i mean i just want people to do well and be better
and find peace and you know so for for everyone involved i just hope they
find the healing they need to find find the peace they need to find do the work they need to do
and just look inward and stop you know looking at the world is like everyone is coming for you
yeah stop the hate stop the paranoia stop all of it like it's just the hate was a lot i don't think
i ever had anything against um like hila but like obviously like the hate that was sent your way is
like that was our
and i cried and i cried so many times and it was awful and um because of the day you never did
talk you never talked about them badly it was all me and it was crazy that you got uh thrown in
there but all right guys i guess that's it for now and um yeah i don't know i don't know where
we go from here but thank you guys for tuning in today um and we will see you guys in the next
episode halloween episode
every day is halloween here really all right thanks for watching and we'll see you guys in
the next episode thank you
Podcast Summary
Key Points:
The speaker reflects on a deeply emotional and transformative experience that changed their perspective and led to a lasting emotional disconnect from certain topics.
The trio of Jake, Johnny, and Tara is reuniting in a new episode, emphasizing their close friendship and shared history, despite past tensions.
The group shares excitement over shopping at Hot Topic, with personal and thoughtful purchases made for each other, highlighting their bond and mutual appreciation.
The speaker promotes their upcoming book *Crying on the Kitchen Floor*, which is set to release soon, and shares excitement about a first interview that will be released that week.
A major life event—attending a My Chemical Romance concert—is described as life-changing, with vivid memories of the energy, crowd, and emotional connection to the music.
The group discusses personal growth, aging, and the unexpected joy of reuniting with old friends, while reflecting on how life and perceptions evolve over time.
A humorous and heartfelt moment occurs when the group watches a TikTok of Johnny Gilbert doing yard work with his daughter, leading to nostalgic and emotional reflections on aging and identity.
The conversation touches on internet culture, including fan debates about Shane Dawson and Jake Shane, with playful confusion over names and personas, and real-life community dynamics at Grindr.
Summary:
The conversation reflects on a deeply personal and emotionally transformative experience, marking a turning point in the speaker’s mind and relationship with certain topics. The trio—Jake, Johnny, and Tara—reunites in a new episode, celebrating their enduring friendship and shared history, even amid past differences. The hosts share excitement about a recent Hot Topic shopping trip, where they made thoughtful gifts for each other, reinforcing their close bond.
A major emotional milestone is the speaker’s first live concert experience with My Chemical Romance, which they describe as life-changing, filled with energy, connection, and joy. The discussion also explores themes of aging, identity, and personal growth, including nostalgic moments like seeing Johnny Gilbert in a TikTok yard work video with his daughter. The group humorously ponders the confusion between similar names like Jake Shane and Shane Dawson, highlighting how internet culture shapes perceptions.
They also reflect on real-life community dynamics, such as a viral Grindr controversy involving Grant from *Twink and a Redhead* and Crumble Cookie CEO Sawyer Hemsley, which sparked debate over authenticity and influence. Throughout, the tone is warm, self-aware, and full of personal connection, blending humor, nostalgia, and heartfelt moments. S.
and Australia, emphasizing ongoing personal and professional journeys.
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Yes, people often mix up Jake Shane with Jake Webber, and there's confusion between Jake and Johnny due to similar names and public personas. However, the confusion is mainly in the names and vibes, not actual identities.
Moses wore a Jesus costume for a Christmas music video, featuring a black beard. While not biblically accurate, the look was praised for its youthful and memorable appeal, and it sparked emotional reactions from the audience.
The host felt deeply emotional because the experience was life-changing and felt like a return to a youthful, connected state. The energy of the crowd and the shared experience created a powerful sense of belonging and freedom.
Grant claimed that the Crumble Cookie CEO, Sawyer Hemsley, was banned from a Grindr event, which sparked a real-life dispute. The CEO denied the claim, saying no such ban occurred, and the situation raised questions about privacy and community dynamics.
The host completed a 10K marathon in Malibu, which was exhausting and physically challenging. Despite feeling shocked and temporarily unsteady afterward, the experience was described as exhilarating and life-affirming.
The host frequently engages fans through events like the Hot Topic challenge, Patreon, and social media, where they buy and share merchandise, and invite fans to participate in live experiences like concerts and marathons.
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