"TREACHERY!" El-Sayed vs Haley Stevens - Midterms Debate from DC with Mehdi Hasan & Cenk Uygur

By double digits the best ad of the political season the American people love that ad their desperate They're losing the economies bad so they go immediately to racism Islamophobia And that's why this ad is such a red herring say he lost the house and the second what power Just Congress have to stop Trump doing what he wants to do with Iran from public and stand with him He'll have unilateral authority to continue to do what he wants to do He wants to break that final taboo so that future presidents would feel empowered to use the nuclear weapon My biggest problem with Abdul al-Tayyad or James Talleriko or any of these more radical left-wing President candidates are indeed their policies things that radically lean more towards socialism and authoritarianism I think that this is not going to be a vote of Democrats It's a vote against Donald Trump, it's the emperor with no clothes Well the building behind me might well be the most famous seat of government On the entire planet. It's been the home of U.S. Senators and representatives for 226 years And depending on the choices made by millions of Americans tomorrow night The next U.S. Congress could leave as big a mark as any who gone before them They will decide if the second Trump presidency which began with such resounding hope for change Ends exactly as the first one did with on pass in for me and impeachment Today the president's making his final pitch before elections that will define his legacy Up to 30 rallies in 30 days right across the country Today's speech is taking place less than a couple of miles down the road at the Lincoln Memorial Reflecting pool no less Now whether or not the reflecting pool is sufficiently reflective has become one of the most bizarre scandals of Trump's second term But it's unlikely that a bad paint job will be what finishes Trump If the polls and prediction markets have got it right Are they coming tsunami of Democrat blue? Many will vote tomorrow on energy prices and the cost of living Looming over all of course is the Iran War which has done so much To raise both Republicans wanting election to be about the changing phase of America Had a so-called threat from within a communist islamist alliance Abdul El Sayyid the Democrats man in Michigan has become the brunt Of it all including this from Trump last night Mike Rogers is apple pie and you know what this country needs a little apple pie We don't need the we don't need the communist the jihadist Muslim brotherhood we need apple pie he is apple pie Well El Sayyid is faced the full might of the mega war machine ever since the He beat a haley Stevens in a democratic primary And yesterday that machine got a shock of rocket fuel when I like this source Haley Stevens herself My vote for Senate I am just one vote as is every Michigander My vote for Senate is going to be with my Rogers and I will tell you why Because we have to stand with country We can't stand with hate. We can't stand with Hassan Piker Well the 11th our treachery of his democratic colleague was set in motion by a Controversial unofficial campaign ad for El Sayyid It shows a young couple in a supermarket whose grocery bill of saw because of US Ministry aid for Israel We get all the sandwich stuff for the kids lunch. They don't like turkey anymore. Yeah, I know What about the bananas? Yeah, I got them too But honey What you're gonna have to put those eggs back. They don't like eggs anymore? No, they like eggs But we have to set that seven dollars aside For killing Palestinians What I mean don't we give Israel four billion dollars a year anyways? Yeah, and now we're giving them another 36 billion dollars. Do you know how much that is per American taxpayer? No, it's like $161 per person. Apparently it's costing us a lot of money to drop bombs on Gaza Well many people are criticized that ad as racist or anti-Semitic El Sayyid has pointed out there's nothing to do with his campaign and he doesn't agree with it Ali Steven says this doesn't go far enough The ad was in fact funded and masterminded by one check you go Obviously a familiar face to unsensitive viewers who previously used it for his own failed presidential campaign in 2024 Well check will be here to explain himself shortly elsewhere tomorrow millions are gripped by the voting Texas As the insurgent James Talleriko threatens to flip the red state after the most expensive Senate race in US history In another brutal campaign Trump and the Republicans have called him a homosexual vegan extremist Democrats say his opponent Ken Paxson is corrupt and once they race in which corruption is beyond dispute is Alaska Democrats there decided their best bet the beating sentence of Dan Sullivan was to confuse Republican voters by running A retired teacher called Dan Sullivan if the real Dan Sullivan loses as the polls suggest you might I expect we'll be hearing about that race for a long time beyond this week Now don't forget tomorrow night our sensor will be live from 7 p.m. Eastern with an all-star cast to bring you the results You need and all the debates that you love and you can get behind the scenes updates and exclusive bonus content By joining the thousands of super fans in the unsensitive club that appears morgan.tv or find all the details in our show notes Well during me in the studio is media son founder of satayer who will join us live tomorrow night as well from LSAID's count in Michigan The first check you go founder as see of the young turks whose campaign head for LSAID has caused chaos this week Well check welcome back to unsensitive. You're a regular visitors of the show for which we're very grateful But right now you're at the center of arguably the biggest firestorm in this whole race Which involves you and your pack putting out an ad which reported to be on behalf of LSAID He has denied that so let my first question to you is Did you seek any approval from up to LSAID for this ad before you put it out? No, I didn't and it's an interesting question pierce because All of the media seems to assume that all the other packs are coordinating Which is illegal You can tell with us we're honest. We didn't coordinate at all. That's what you're supposed to do if you're doing it right After LSAID has made it clear he doesn't agree with the ad it doesn't Stand for him. It's not something he's been involved in putting out you've just said that he didn't approve it in advance But since you started airing it have you heard from him or his campaign With any effort by them to try and get you to withdraw it Yeah, again you can't coordinate so no we haven't heard from his campaign and I have heard from other packs. We could talk more about that after the election is over and Do I care what other packs think? No, if I Care what they thought I'd contribute to them instead of creating my own pack rebellion pack is for the strong For people who'd like to go on the offense and stay there So if you like that ad rebellion pack dot org We're going to make a lot more of those in the presidential campaign and we're not going to pull any punches that ad Resonated through the roof peers it it we another pack tested it it moved Voters undecided voters so I'll duel LSAID and certain demographics that we care the most about By double digits the best ad of the political season so The people on TV are nuts The american people love that ad and the and the and it absolutely shows in the numbers and it shows Everywhere you go the but the people on TV love israel so much that they're like oh my god It criticized israel let's lie about it and that's interesting two peers by the way cable news every single one of them has lied about how it's anti-Semitic when it doesn't mention Jews Has nothing to a Jewish people at all and yet they won't let me come on or Kara Eastman from rebellion pack or anyone to actually defend that So the cable news is revealed this is one of the four giant wins from this ad Which is the cable news has revealed themselves. They're not left or right. They're just pro-Israel So and they'll lie and we have your own you don't know what can be ban Jones your own liar And and then a bachelor's a huge liar Jake Tapper who's a huge liar, but we can keep going Well, I've got you on my show as I always do we're un-sensit. I don't play those kind of games in deep platforming people as you know Um, but you know outside his distance himself from this he's disavowed himself on the campaign from this ad. Why do you think he's done that if it's such a great ad? Yeah, it's because he knows that the disingenuous people in mainstream media are going to use it to attack him and the Democrats who actually work for israel used it to attack him And so you had a Lisa Slotkin and Josh Gottheimer and Debbie Wasserman Schultz all the usual suspects come out there and go Oh my god, we're so concerned about the ad. Why would you even be concerned? It had nothing to do with them It's if you're concerned about rebellion pack take it up with us. This whole denounce game Like the American people are onto it yet the fools on cable news continue due denounce due denounce Do you disavow who cares that why didn't they look this i can prove it definitively mic rogers uh it Has been backed by the israeli lobby israel has murdered 75,000 Palestinians 22,000 children And not a single person in cable news has asked mic rogers to disavow israel in fact mic rogers proudly said that he will serve Israel unconditionally. That is insane. Yet no one in cable news thinks that's remarkable. They apparently think all of our politicians should serve Israel unconditionally. Furthermore, I've asked Microdges, I haven't seen any other reporter ask him, will you also support the voters of Michigan unconditionally? Or are you prioritizing Israel over your own voters? That's a super fair question, 'cause he's never said that he would serve Michigan unconditionally. Only Israel. So this is an Alice in Wonderland Kafka S world, where everyone in television news et cetera disagrees. By the way, this is important. I think Abdul played it perfectly. So he first disavowed Haley Stevens, and that showed strength, and it toppled that domino over, and she revealed who she really is, an agent of APAC, and self-immulated on live national televisions. We appreciate her for that. Then he came out and disavowed the ad. At that point, I could care less. And this isn't about me, it isn't about my ego. I've been thrown onto the bus by almost every part of the political spectrum, and I couldn't care less. I'm here to fight for the American people, and clearly the right choice there, unequivocally is Abdul Al-Sahid. The other guy says he won't even serve our country. He'll serve another country. This is a no-brainer. That's why, by the way, after the ad came out, what happened to Abdul's numbers? The numbers went up, not down. There is objective reality. Let me put it down, and they were totally wrong. Okay, well, I think what I would say about that is, it's a bit early to assess, because, of course, Hayley Stevens, the reason that she has gone the way she's gone, she is saying is as a direct consequence of the ad, Abdul Al-Sahid's refusal to condemn it, and so on. That precipitated in her eyes, a chain of events, which I'm pretty serious about, frankly, but she says that seems to be what she's telling people, and that led to her in the end, supporting Mike Rogers, which was a dramatic sort of very late, early November surprise. But if it turns out, Chang, that in the end, Abdul Al-Sahid comes up short, that he doesn't win in Michigan. Would you accept that politically, this ad, which he's disavowed publicly now, damaged him rather than helped him? And if that is the case, would you regret it? - So let's talk about both sides of it, Pierce. So if it turns out that it hurt Abdul, but not just, hey, he lost, and I want to knock on Wood somewhere here, I hope to God, that doesn't come close to happening, and I don't think it will. And they test the ad again, and it turns out that it did not do well. Then I am a person who believes in empirical objective reality. If it tested poorly, which I already know that it didn't, it tested through the roof, right? But if they do it again, and somehow it came out poorly, and then it affected him and that hurt him, well, of course I would admit, that 'cause I'm an honest person. Now let me reverse it. If it turns out that the numbers hold as they are now, that his numbers rose since the ad, and that we are correct that the ad tested through the roof, and it helped them win, will anyone that turn around and say, hey, we're so sorry, it turns out that ad was terrific, as a lot of people online, and the almost the entire online community agrees it was. And we apologize for saying it was offensive, the voters of Michigan agreed with it. 54% of them agree with the ad, do not want to give it Israel another dollar, 61% of independents of Michigan, don't want to give it another dollar. Pierce, are you going to ask people, if they're sorry for criticizing an ad that turned out to be spectacularly effective? My guess is it won't go that way, mate. And out with you Pierce, for what people lose, they'll continue to lie about it is my guess, 'cause that's what they always do. Can you see it going the other way? We know that people can't wait to blame me, but there's no going in the world anybody's going to give me credit. Okay, let me just be straight with you from what I think about this. So I watched the ad. I was aware, obviously, pretty quickly, that it was something you would use yourself in your own campaign several years ago. But when I watched it, I just thought, come off it, Shane. The idea that cost of living increases, that people in Michigan have experienced in the last year in particular, they're down to the Iran war, to the freezing of energy through the straightforward moves, through energy prices, gas prices, rocketing. That is what's had the main effect on prices in Michigan for ordinary people in Michigan. So the idea that somehow, because of your ad was supposed to all buy into this concept, that is because of America's funding of Israel, I felt was just materially untrue. That is not why people in Michigan are paying more prices at the pump. And so there was a disingenuous aspect to it. And, you know, you've been on my show many, many times. I love having you on. You're always a great guest. But you are driven through the prism of a very, very strong anti-Israel view. And you're perfectly entitled to it. But, you know, people are looking at this game. Well, this is just Shane doing what he always does, claiming Israel to absolutely everything, including cost of living, rising in Michigan. When everybody knows the main driver of that is Iran War. - So, peers, I love this conversation. And I love that you just admitted that I'm right. So who started the Iran War? We know for a fact that it was Israel. Marco Rubio admitted it was Israel. The New York Times admitted it was Israel. Everybody knows that this is Israel's war. As I've said on your program many times, by the way, look at your own comment section. Almost everyone agrees with me. We have no US interests in this war at all, not one. Whereas Israel has all the interests in the world and they declared on tape after the war started. We're so glad this war started. And, you know, we're going to now be a regional superpower. Why is it our business to make Israel a regional superpower? We've already wasted $8 trillion on Israel's wars. And they demand more and more wars every time. No matter if you get a Democrat or a Republican elected, they all serve Israel and start Israel's wars for them. And now you tell me that that's not relevant. That's the most relevant thing there is. Why are gas prices higher because of Israel's war? Do we have to put aside $161 per taxpayer to pay for Israel's genocide on top of the war we're paying? Yes, everything in the ad is empirically correct. And by the way, we didn't say that they're causing the price of eggs and bananas to go up. Look at the ad. It says gas prices are higher because of Israel's war that mic Rogers is, by the way, supported for 20 straight years using the same exact talking points as Netanyahu. Trying to drive us into this disastrous war for Israel. He got $9 million on the Israeli lobby. And you know, Pierce, that ad had nothing to do with Jewish people. 63% of Jewish Americans agree with us. They're against the current Netanyahu government of Israel. And it has to do with Israel. And we have given them all that money. And we have started all those wars. It did increase gas prices. The ad is 100% true. And that's why it bothers the establishment. Because somebody caught them representing a different country. So I'm super glad that it was Rebellion back that caught them. And that's why it's called a rebellion because we need a rebellion to bring up, get our country back. So believe in America, vote for American senators, not Israeli senators. OK, final question. Have you heard from Abdullah Sayyid since his ad began airing? No, I have not heard from him. I have not talked to him. And look, this ad created four wins. And some of them are related to Abdul. But others are outside of and bigger than Abdul. So number one is I've said now many times the-- and you'll see it after the election. It tests through the roof so it helps Abdul. And I'm super proud of that. Number two, it exposed every Israeli show in media and politics. Everyone calling it anti-Semitic clearly is lying about it. And it's weird that they're lying about it. Obviously doing it on behalf of Israel. Number three, it caused Hailey Stevens to destroy her own career. I love it. Super proud of it. And number four, look at what we're doing appears. We're finally talking about the issue that most Americans care the most about. But cable news will not cover because of their religious devotion to Israel. I don't mean religious literally, because it definitely doesn't have to do with religion. It has to do with a toxic ideology called Zionism. And so the American people are asking now. And that's why Abdul is a huge lead. Wait, why are we paying for Israel to get 2,000 pound bombs? Why do we constantly have to give them? They ask for another $3 billion. And how many times are we going to pay Israel? How many genocides and how many wars are we going to do for Israel? And the American people, both Republicans and the Democrats and the independents all agree with us. So sad day for all the Israeli supporters. We're going to win because we're fighting for America. The problem, OK, the problem is the Abdullah Sayed has spent most of his campaign fighting the charge that he is in any way anti-Semitic. And people have been dragging up in his connections to relatives, you said anti-Semitic things and so on. I would imagine, I'm not spoken to him, but the last thing he would want out there is an ad of the kind that you put out there. Because it fuels the fire that he is somebody who's not just anti-Israel, but is anti-Semitic. And that's what this ad is really about. I don't think you are anti-Semitic. I've had this conversation with you before. But it fuels the fire for his critics to look at it and say, well, this ad is exactly what we're talking about. This guy blames Israel for everything. Now, we will find out in the next couple of days whether your ad helped him or didn't help him, but it certainly set off a chain of events which led to Haley Stevens going to Mike Rogers and endorsing him, which was a dramatic, I think, pretty charlatan-like thing to do. But if it turns out that that tips things against Abdelai say, and you could say that actually it all comes back to this ad and the damage because of the consequences it caused. However, if Abdelai say wins by a landslide in Michigan, as many of the polls are suggesting he might, then you could say the opposite, so we will find out and we'll get you back on, check to discuss it when we do. But I appreciate it coming on since the thank you very much. Thank you, rebellionpack.org. And, in terms of seeing your election day with a lot of impact here's Mugs. Let's go, let's free America. Okay, thank you, thank you very much. Many of you, Sonny, we're listening to all that. You know, I hear checks, arguments. I do think he's very one track. Every time he comes on my show, everything is immediately Israel, whatever the debate is, does America be literally the price of lemons? And he'll find a way of bringing Israel into it because he hates the Israeli government so much. Do you think this ad was a smart thing to put out? I don't know the answer to that question. I think you summed up very well there. We will see tomorrow night what happens. Clearly it's damaged him with some voters in Michigan, but as Jenk points out, it's helped him with other voters who do agree with the ad. I think the attacks on the ad have been absurd. Let's just put this in context. Jenk's ad, I don't believe even ran on Michigan television. This was ginned up as a fake controversy by Haley Stevens, Deshalaton, as you just described there, as an excuse for her doing what she was going to do anyways. This idea that she joined Mike Rogers because of an ad that Abdul Al-Sahid had nothing to do with is insane. By the way, as a lot of Jewish Democrats have pointed out over the last 48 hours. Okay, you don't like Abdul Al-Sahid. Stay at home. Don't vote. But why would you endorse Mike Rogers who's running in basically what does look like these days of white supremacist party? You get very upset with me when I meet Nazi comparisons to Donald Trump. Have you been following this campaign piece? He's calling Abdul Al-Sahid a jihadist, a terrorist. He says there will be metal detectors in Congress if Abdul is elected. That's the kind of racist thing he's saying about a Muslim candidate. Trump has referred to Shylock Bankers recently. He said Jews who vote for Al-Sahid are dumb. The insults that have gone against Jews, Muslims, black people. Did you see the Secretary of Agriculture's Halloween post on Saturday? It was snapped fraudster with a picture of a black man. I mean, this is old school white supremacist stuff. They're desperate. They're losing. The economy's bad so they go immediately to racism, Islamophobia. And that's why this ad is such a red herring. This was always about Hayley Stevens making an insane decision to jump. It should check and put it out. It's an old ad. You did it for his own campaign. I mean, check out for those questions. I'm going to tell you. But if he does his stuff. But if his motivation was to help Abdul Al-Sahid? He is. Yeah, but I'm not sure. I'm out of it. Harry Enton, who's a pollster of CNN, has said, "You know what? The Israeli Shumei end up helping Abdul Al-Sahid in the end." Because people in this city here in DCP, as people in our industry are in a bubble, they do not recognize just how unpopular Israelis, just how fed up people are with endless wars in the Middle East to Israel's behest. And a lot of people do agree. They do make the connection, which you fail to make in your interview, which is yes to war in Iran, drove up prices, who started the war in Iran. I mean, if I'd done that ad, and I wouldn't have done that ad, I would have mentioned Iran specifically. That's maybe one thing Chenk could have done to make his case stronger, which is, as you say, the reason prices are going up is because of the war in Iran, not because of Gaza, but because of the war in Iran, and the war in Iran was launched by Benjamin Netanyahu and Donald Trump. And that's the original sin. That's what's going to cost them hats. I wouldn't describe it as Israel's war because in the end, the American commander-in-chief makes the call to commit American pull. You would have never given Donald Trump a pass on Iran. Netanyahu tried to get every president he's ever dealt with, Tin Vader on. Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, Joe Biden, and he got Donald Trump to do it. Now, I'm not excusy agency from Donald Trump, but at the same time, let's not be under any illusions. The State Department website says right now that we went toward the United States went to war for Israel. But that's what it says effectively on their own website. The hatey Steven's thing is fat. I mean, I watched her do an absolutely insane thing, a car crash interview on CNN last night, where she made zero cents. Couldn't answer basic questions. Three days ago, she was saying, "I'm endorsing. " After a little said three days ago, on Sunday morning, apparently, she texted Congresswoman Debbie Dingell with a love, love emoji saying, "I'm still on board." And with the Democrats, what do you think is. What do you think is. What do you think is happened? There are so many theories going around. I don't know. Was this always her plan to do this? That would be the argument amongst many pro-Palestinians. People who say, "Look, APAC funded her attack ads on Abdul Orsage. She benefited from an APAC campaign." And this was always about screwing them over, you know, rat-effing him. And that's what she's done. Other people would say, "This is really weird because she was talking to fellow Democrats in the House. She's a House Democrat," saying, "I'm still on board." On Saturday, Jamie Raskin, Debbie Dingell, they all got calls and texts. On Saturday, she spoke to Charlotte Klima, the trans activist, saying, "I'm still on board." So what on earth happened overnight? You know, there's a famous slide from her, right? Israel comes to me in my dreams. Did Israel come to her in her dreams on Saturday night? Because what on earth happened on Sunday morning? There's the role of her fiance, the Sky Jason Turkish, who forget me. Her own former campaign staffers are saying, "Once he got involved, she changed. He became a toxic presence in the campaign." He already had announced. He'd been doing his own media appearances. He announced a week ago that he was backing Mike Rogers. And he was saying that he thought she may do this. Yes. And she was saying, "No, I'm not." And in fact, she got really upset, but her supporters said, "Don't be sexist." Just because her fiance is doing it. It doesn't mean she's going to do it. And then she did do it. He went on Fox. He went on TMZ. He's a Democrat donor, but has also donated to Republicans. Again, these people are one issue people. Isn't it greatly ironic, Piz. You mentioned, "Chain Yuga's obsessed with Israel." This is the attack that people make on Abdul al-Sah. Why is he obsessed with Israel? Mike Rogers runs ads saying, "He's going to be the senator of a Palestine. If it's not Abdul al-Sah, it isn't obsessed with Israel." If you watch his interviews, he talks about Medicare for All, price of living, money out of budget. You know the people who obsessed with Israel, he's opponents. Haley Stevens just torched her entire political career. She's done in the Democratic Party for one issue, for Israel. That's absurd. What do you think is going to happen tomorrow night? And I can't say by saying that the one thing I've learned with anything involving Donald Trump and Polsters is you can't really believe anything or take it at face value because they're so often wrong. I remember in 2016, I was one of the very few people saying, "I think Trump's going to win." Everyone assumed because the Polsters were saying it would be a landslide win for Hillary Clinton and we saw the same thing happening again and again with Trump. Can we say with any certainty what we think is going to happen tomorrow? Not really. No, I don't think so. I mean, look, the gut feeling is that the House was always going to go. The House of Representatives were much easier win. People forget this. If you go back to January 25, I had a look at the headlines from January 25, 2025. The consensus in this town then was the Democrats can win the House. They can't win the Senate. The map is so bad. They're defending seats. There's not enough Republican targets seats. They can't get to the Senate. Now, of course, the House has seen us a lot at guarantee and the Senate, are they going to get 51, 52, 53? They need four seats to flip the Senate. And really, they need 52 because John Federman, their Pennsylvania Senate is so unreliable. They might get it. I mean, you've got Republicans spending money in places like Kansas and Iowa, places where there haven't been democratic centers for decades. So Republicans are on the defense. If Donald Trump is super unpopular, it's all about the war on Iran, Iran, Iran, Iran, Iran. Everything goes back to he lied about not going to war. And then the war drove up prices. He said he was going to end inflation on day one. So it could be a complete tsunami for the Democrats. But as you say, the polls have got things before. In the midterms, the polls showed Abdullah said winning a landslide over Haley Stevens. He won by, what, less than a percentage point. He showed Francesca Hong in Wisconsin winning the Democratic primary. She lost badly. So I've been scarred by polls. And in 2016, I got Brexit wrong. I got Trump wrong. I stopped doing predictions after that. I mean, if Trump and the Republicans were to hold the Senate, I would see that for them as a major win given all the moves. Do you agree? I agree. If they hold on now to the Senate, even though, as I say, a year and a half ago, Democrats weren't even supposed to be winning the Senate. But yes, given where the polls are, given how unpopular Trump is, given the chaos in this city, given the strong candidates to Democrats are running. James Taloriko in Texas, Roy Cooper in North Carolina, strong people, it'll be very interesting to see if they don't win that. But if they do win both out, chambers, then you're looking at proper lame duck Trump. You're looking at a second term president in his last two years, facing an emboldened Democratic party with lots of progressive voices, like Abdullah said, and then controlling both houses. You're looking at potential impeachment. You're looking at investigations into Elon Musk and Jared Kushner and all those folks. It'll be very difficult for Donald Trump to do anything domestically. He may ramp up in Iran because it's very hard to control a U.S. president abroad, but at home he will be limited. You're going to be a Michigan tomorrow, where it's all going to go down with Abdullah's side. It can be fascinating night. 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Well as many says, the Iran War is looming large over tomorrow's elections, the cost of living and rising energy costs are key factors influencing votes. And there is fever speculation about what is going to happen next, including this morning, an astonishing claim by Tucker Carlson that "New King Iran may now be on the table." But joining me now in the studio, Glenn Greenwald, host of System Update, Joel Rubin, the former US Deputy Assistant Secretary of State, and John Kerriaku from a CIA formal whistleblower, of course, an author of the new book "Remains of the Day." Well, a stellar panel and a stellar backdrop, I think you can all agree, and quite stellar weather, actually, for Washington DC in November. So we are blessed. Glenn Greenwald, I feel if the Republicans lose the House and the Senate, he can probably be charted back to the end of February and the decision by Donald Trump to go into war in Iran with Israel. Would you agree? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think there are many factors. I would say that was the principle one. And it's just so interesting because the last time the Republicans got soldered in a midterm election on this level that they're likely to get crushed, it was in 2006 where the primary cause back then was the war in Iraq. And Donald Trump, I think, knew that better than anybody, which is why he campaigned for so long, and he promised not to involve himself in these kind of wars. And yet, here we are back in the middle of one. And I think the political consequences will be quite somewhere as well. I mean, I thought it was a bad idea at the time. Mainly because Donald Trump had campaigned so vociferously in the 2024 election on not taking America into pointless expensive overseas wars, especially in the Middle East. And he said, well, I want to focus on his America first in the cost of living down, getting inflation down and gas prices down. And he wasn't fell asleep at the end of February. He threw all up up in the air. Why do you think he did it? And as you think right now, you know, a mile away from here, he's deeply regretting that decision? Oh, he must be regretting it. And you know, I was actually serving on Capitol Hill as a staffer at the time during the Iraq war when that election, that wave election happened. I think he's going to face the voters now after this election and feel the same pressure to stop the war. I think that he at the time got caught up in the emotion of it, got caught up in the fact that the Iranians were slaughtering thousands of people in the streets. He was saying stop it that didn't heed. And then, of course, the Israelis took a shot on the Supreme Leader and were effective at their strikes. I think for Trump, though, he has to have buyers more right now. He's still getting some pressure to continue to restrike and to your point about what Tucker Carlson is putting out there. It just feeds the discussion that this war may not be over. But I think Trump is desperate to get out of this war. And Congress, the Democrats, if we do see the Democrats take control of Congress, they're going to put more pressure on to end the war as well. Can I stop him? I mean, in that eventuality, say he lost the House and the Senate, which may happen. I mean, I think predicting anything at this stage is kind of all up in the air. I don't really believe anything I'm being told. But if he wants to lose both, what power does Congress have to stop Trump doing what he wants to do with Iran, for example? I mean, they could pass a war power resolution, essentially rescinding his ability to wage war. But then he would veto that. And that would mean that he could still, they could defund and he would veto that too. And so the big question is going to be what about Senate Republicans? Because the House will override a veto most likely. But the Senate is really where the decision will be made. And if Republicans stand with him, he'll have unilateral authority to continue to do what he wants to do. John, come here. This notion of Tucker Carlson, for as long as the first time he's claimed something like this is about to happen. But he says the administration could be days away. He said he's heard this on good authority from using a nuclear weapon against an underground Iranian nuclear facility called Picax Mountain. Apparently conventional weapons can't penetrate the site. A nuclear strike might be the only option. And it's on a scale that might bring this war to an end and achieve Trump's aspiration that he's now turned into, which is to prevent them from having a new click capacity. What do you make of all this? Well, I've heard the same thing from my own contacts at the White House that the president is considering the use of a tactical nuclear weapon against Picax Mountain so that it will penetrate to the point where it will destroy everything that's underground. But more than that, he wants to break that final taboo. And I'm told that's the word that he's using, the final taboo, so that future presidents would feel empowered to use a nuclear weapon. I think this is crazy. My spine is shivering. Why would you want to empower them? I mean, immediately, Vladimir Putin looks at Ukraine. Exactly. He looks at a strangle battlefield. Do you think, "Oh, great. I can use a tactical new." The Americans did it. I can do it now too. Once you lose that high moral ground about the use of all, and once you use the deterrent factors being the reason people have them, once you start saying we can use them, the whole game changes. And may I add something, too? One of the things that we always seem to forget is that Iran is the size of the whole of Western Europe. It has 92 million people. It's surrounded by mountains on three sides and water on the fourth, unless we're prepared to commit a million ground troops. Even a nuclear bomb is not going to win this war. Donald Trump just doesn't seem to understand. We've already lost the war. The war is over for all intents and purposes, and we've lost. Benjamin Netanyahu convinced him that the Iranian government was a house of cards. And as soon as we took out the leadership, the whole thing would collapse on itself, and everybody would live happily ever after. And that was never true. It's even less true now. The other thing, when I think about this, is that we've already seen the Iranians waging a, when you have to admire the tactics they've been using, when confronted by a far superior military forced by the American and Israel combined, they've waged a deliberate asymmetric war by closing the strata for mousse and by attacking the Gulf states. Now the Gulf states have been seriously damaged economically by this. The whole business model of replacing reliance on oil with tourism and support and entertainment has literally gone up and smoked. If there was to be an attack of this magnitude by United States and Israel presumably against Iran, I'm certain the Iranians would respond as they've already been threatening to do by massively escalating attacks on the Gulf states. And who the hell knows where that all ends, but no, well, I mean, do you know what I mean? Something in power and have been preparing for a war like this for 50 years. And as John just said, they have all kinds of geographical advantages. They're a very serious people. They have a lot of great scientists and military strategists. They're not as well. They're not a joke when it comes to these kinds of wars. All of this was easily anticipated. The thing that alarms me the most peers is that what Trump has been going around saying is, look, I know you're counting on the fact that there's a midterm election. Where about to have that? Maybe I'm going to win. Maybe I'm going to lose. Either way, I don't really care because I don't have to run again. And that is clearly a thought that he has in his head that there's nothing constraining him politically or seemingly in any other way. Like that's one of the problems about having very old leaders is they stop thinking about life on earth and they start thinking about their own legacy and how they want to be remembered in this kind of grave historical mark they want to leave on the world. And I think psychologically that's the most alarming part is how Trump is being oriented to think of as you know very well. He's not exactly a difficult person to manipulate either. We've seen that so many times. And if you understand how Trump works, you can kind of guide him in that direction and make him think he's doing it on his own. Do you believe what Tucker's saying that this is all being driven by apparently daily calls from Netanyahu who faces his own like ongoing election crisis now where should he be outmaneuvered and be removed from office by a coalition against him? Then of course he's facing personal corruption charges and a trial which could lead to him going to prison. So there are huge personal stakes for Netanyahu in doing anything he can to change the mood music around his premiership in Israel. Yeah and this is something that you know every Israeli will tell you is that Netanyahu has used war to keep himself in office. He's hardly the first leader to do so. He also has this kind of legacy concern as well. The project of removing Iranian government has been his main focus for 40 years. He sees it as his last chance to do so. And so the combination of Trump and Netanyahu together is very alarming. I think what Tucker is trumpeting there is not that a decision is made but that this is being discussed at the highest levels of the Trump administration. Anybody who has any sources or contacts in the Trump administration knows this is true? I mean American presidents have all probably considered at some stage could they use a tactical nuclear weapon to end a series of pretty disastrous wars right whether it's Iraq or Afghanistan I mean you know somebody painted a good argument that since World War II what war is America actually won right? It's wasted a lot of military conflicts and war. So they must have fought at some stage at least considered the potential of doing this but I just think it would be utter insanity if Trump reads. do this. I'm not convinced he would do it. I am convinced Netanyahu would do it, and would be quite happy if the Americans joined in. Do you think it's even feasible? I'll tell you, I think what makes me hesitate to say yes from a Trump perspective is that he is consistently for four plus decades now, been talking about the dangers of nuclear war. Going back to the 1980s, this is not a thing, an issue that he has ignored. It's been part of his DNA as a thinker on national security. So I find it very impossible that he would launch a nuclear strike because this whole history says the opposite. That doesn't mean he wouldn't launch heavy strikes, but I've got to add also an interesting conversation about Israel right now. No, the leader of the camp that won the elections recently got a eyes and caught no dove on Iran. Publicly worn Prime Minister Netanyahu said do not play politics, do not use our military for your political gain. So already the line is being set, even inside Israel. That eyes and caught who is a former, keep the staff of the military and all of his inside allies as well are saying we are not going to support a nuclear strike. So I understand why the argument has been put out there, but I don't think it's plausible in this scenario. John Trump gets white tomorrow, which could happen. And as I said over the show, if he was to hold the Senate, the Republicans would claim that as a massive victory given all the music. But my gut is telling me we might be heading to the blue way people have been talking about and the repudiation, mainly of what's happened with Iran and the cost of living crisis that's followed and so on. Where does this leave Trump, do you think? As a linked up president, but with executive powers. He does. He could be the most dangerous lame dot president we've ever seen. You can go ahead and accuse me of being irrationally optimistic here. But I've come to the conclusion that like every president in the final two years of his term, Donald Trump is going to be more concerned than he has been at any point about his legacy. Does he want to be the president that used a nuclear weapon? Does he want to be the president that walked out of the White House on his last day and left America mired in war? I'm hoping that he cares enough about his legacy, that he puts an end to this, that he just brings the ships home and the troops home. He engages even in secret private conversations with the Iranians about protecting our Gulf Arab allies, leaving them out of it. Some kind of an agreement with the Houthis, the Ansar Allah in Yemen. There's got to be something more than what we're seeing so far right now. I'm hoping that he's thinking about that legacy. What would the consequences be for Ukraine with the midterm results? Well that's what I was actually part of what I was thinking how this all relates to Ukraine. One of the reasons why you don't get into wars is because you don't always get to choose how you get out of them. You know, from the start, NATO said, oh, we're not going to give an inch away to a Ukraine, to Russia. And we're taking back Crimea and that was never going to happen. The Russians would never have permitted that. So right from the beginning, it was this kind of aimless, endless war, guaranteed never to end on those terms. I don't think it'll change much about Ukraine either. He can't, the Congress can't and won't force Trump in foreign policy. We've had this tradition, unfortunately, over the last 30 years where Congress in the area of foreign policy basically doesn't exist anymore. Seeds it all to the President. We're going to have investigations. They're going to get George Kushner, the Trump family, all of which should happen. I just don't think that even if Americans go out of the polls and are angry as you think they are about the war in Iran and the secondary cost or even things going on in Ukraine, it's going to make the slightest difference as Democrats take over both houses. Yeah, I mean, Joe, I actually think it's just simpler than I think it's the economy's stupid, right? I think that traditionally, historically, governments around the world get punished when people are feeling the pension they're pocket. And I think they do, if that is the driving factor here, that they will be blaming the decision to go to war in Iran for the impact I think on energy prices and everything that has come forward. So I do think there's a direct correlation back to the economy's stupidness. Yes, there really is. And then gas prices in particular, if Democrats can't come in with plans on how to address that beyond just saying, and the war, I think it's going to be a big miss. We're already seeing that it came Jeffries and others are saying they need to have a positive agenda going forward. But to this question about Ukraine, I do think there is a lot that the Democrats could do, especially if they get both chambers to try to embarrass, humiliate, and pressure President Trump on Ukraine. You know, recently a sanctions bill was passed at Lindsey Graham sanctions bill. He basically gutted that bill on a Friday night when everybody was out of town and said, I'm not going to impose sanctions on Russia that you Congress wanted. So there are still tools available to make the argument leading into 2028 about what a real Democratic presidential candidate could stand for. And Ukraine is going to be at the center of that. Okay. I'm having condemned pollsters earlier in the show. I'm not going to ask you. It will be a pollster. John, what are your things going to happen tomorrow? I went through things state by state by state this morning. And I came out with 5149 Democrats. I think that the House is lost to the Republicans between the political report and Larry Savito's crystal ball. They're talking about a Democratic pickup between 12 and 25 seats. I think it's probably going to be around 18. But I think the Senate and the Senate, the Democrats are going to win the Senate in crazy places, like Kansas and Texas. What do you think is going to happen? I mean, I am as kind of reluctant to predict the cause of the polling disasters that we've seen. And, you know, as you know, of Brazil, where I just heard an 85 to 90 percent that Bolsonaro was going to win the second round, which everybody thought, and then will won. So that kind of compounds my uncertainty. But on an intuitive level, I agree with you. I mean, it seems like 2006. And it's not the Iran war principally, but people understand that has caused the secondary economic problems. And I just think in general, people understand that the promises Trump made to them are the ones most that he has abandoned. And that was his political strength. I think he's lost that among white working class voters, people who didn't go to college, kind of core basking stove abandon him. So I think it'll be a pretty intensive blue wave, even more than 5149. Yeah. So, yeah, I think it could be a little higher than that 53. We've seen 10 million more early voters this time than four years ago at the same time in the cycle. The question is, of course, are there more voters out there? But yes, there are. Democrats have been mobilizing for the last nearly two years on the ground in rallies. No kings rally as an example. Just getting people engaged in the process. And I think we're going to continue to see people coming out to vote. And it's going to be a big wave, maybe 240 in the house, 52 to 53 in the Senate. Wow. I'm going to make an exciting night, gentlemen. Thank you all very much indeed. Appreciate it. Well, the midterms campaign has been brutal from claims of a jihadist communist alliance to some extremely personal attacks on James Tallerico in Texas, not to mention a decoy, Dan in Alaska. Joining me to try and make sense of all this is a well-brown, host of Usable Brown show, and John Soapel, former BBC White House correspondent and the host of the newsletters. Well, welcome to both of you. Thank you. I'm going to comment again on the weather. You lived there for eight years. Was November normally like this? No, I had prepared to pack thermals and everything under the sun, thick overcoats, you know, hoods. And then I've got here, and I looked at the temperature projections and it's like 21, 23 degrees. So do you think this? Hopefully it lasts until tomorrow night. And isn't it? Makes sense of everything because the polls are all pointing the same way now. They're all saying we're going to see a big blue wave. It's just a question of how big? Yeah. What do you feel? Well, it makes sense of everything is the task. I think we all wish we could accomplish in this midterm election. Things have been all over the map. And I think there's a lot of confusion. Based on polling data, what we can expect tomorrow rightfully. So you're very skeptical of polling data yourself, peers. I have been the last several election cycles, particularly in the first presidential election I voted for with a 99% certainty Hillary Clinton to be the president of the United States. I think it's going to be a lot closer than most people give it credit for likely to tip slightly towards the Democrat Party based on everything we're seeing in some of these very key races in Texas and Michigan and Minnesota, all over the country. But time will tell, anything is possible in the next eight hours. If you need a blue wave, then how much is Donald Trump going to bear first a responsibility do you think? I think there's a lot to be said that younger voters in particular are rightfully frustrated with some of the messaging or lack thereof that's come out of the Republican Party in the last several months. There's a lot of disillusionment about ongoing war in the Middle East. Again, rightfully so. There's concerns about economic issues, the cost of affordability, purchasing your own home as a young person or even just affording rent. But the solution to that contrary to what many conservative podcasters are starting to lean toward on the internet is of course not to vote for the Democrat Party and many of the policies that exacerbate those very same affordability and foreign policy issues that we've seen throughout my lifetime. John, you were here for eight years, did an excellent job covering Washington for the BBC. You saw the Trump phenomenon come through. I remember 2016. I called it for Trump when everyone was saying it was a lands by the Hillary because I was down to incline documentaries in rural Florida and Texas. And I could feel the Trump trains steaming away and the anti-hillary trade. It was the combination. Maybe I think people have completely misread this. I would be surprised if I was down there now whether I got the same vibe from rural Florida and Texas, particularly from the farming community and other communities, who've been really economically battered by the combination of the tariff war with the war in Iran and the knock on effect on energy prices and so on. What do you send? I sent something similar. I mean, I was at the job center in New York where Hillary Clinton's victory party. wedi wedi wedi wedi wedi wedi wedi wedi wedi wedi wedi wedi wedi wedi wedi wedi wedi wedi wedi wed Mae'n gallu hynny. Mae'n gallu hynny. Mae'n gallu hynny'n gallu hynny'n gallu hynny'n gallu hynny'n gallu Mae'n ei fydd yn ei gwaith, sy'n ei fydd yn ei fydd yn ei fydd yn ei fydd yn ei fydd yn ei fydd yn i'r ffordd ac yn ffordd ac yn ffordd ac yn ffordd ac yn ffordd ac yn ffordd ac yn ffordd ac yn f I am a part of the public and party today. I think of the Trump effect and what was so appealing about Donald Trump running for president in 2016 and 2020 and, of course, in 2024, why he gained more votes than any president Republican or Democrat? It is because he was unafraid to run unabashedly on offense for the things that he believes in. And you are now seeing that same energy and momentum put towards certain individuals on the hill, I think of Brandon Gill, congressman out of Texas, who are embracing that same on offense conservatism. But at the same time, most of the candidates that we are seeing in this particular election almost seem to be apologizing for their conservative values. They are saying, well, I am personally pro-life, but then they will put out a pro-abortion ad like Michelle Tafoya in Minnesota and we even saw that with Mike Rogers this last weekend in Michigan. And you are watching Republican members of Congress like Maria Salazar introduced mass amnesty bills to give 10 million illegal immigrants in America mass amnesty. Ironically, at a time where there are 10 million unemployed Gen Z American citizens desperate to look for work here in this country. You are even watching people like Vivek Ramaswami say we should have more H1B visas at a time that most young conservatives across the border are calling for restricted legal immigration, not just mass deportations. So that's where that dissolution on the right tends to come from. On the left, you are now watching this fracture between someone like congresswoman Hayley Stevens and this wildly progressive wing of the Democrat Party that seems to increasingly become the face of the political left. The moment you question any of it, you are virtually ex-communicated from the Democrat Party. In fact, James Carville this morning, I saw a clip on social media called Hayley Stevens a used condom for questioning anything surrounding the candidacy of Abdul Al-Sayed rightfully. So John, on that, when you were down in Michigan, where I'll say obviously is trying to win, the whole specter around these midterms has been unusually highly fueled by the Israel debate. Obviously October the 7th and the aftermath hugely important, but the first time in our lifetime a majority of Americans have a negative view of Israel. I don't think that would happen in my lifetime. So there's been a real sea change in here. How significant is that going to be do you think in a lot of these results? I think in Michigan it's certainly going to be really important. The sense of shock yesterday when Hayley Stevens did what she did. Not just sit on her hands and say, "I'm just going to stay out of this. I don't want to support Abdul Al-Sayed, but she got in behind the Republicans." And I think that there will be a lot of. What's her interview on CNN? She's an absolute clinker. I mean, the brain was not engaging. No, no, no. She wasn't the sharpest knife in the draw, was she? She wasn't the bluntest knife in the billboard. Look, I think that what's happening is that this is the sea change in American politics. I, you know, to further to your point is about that kind of opinion. I think that this is not going to be a vote for Democrats. It's a vote against Donald Trump. I mean, Donald Trump promised these things on the economy on no more wars. And he and a lot of people feel that he. That's what I mean. It's a self-inflicted situation. Yes, situation. He's now in. I mean, I think if you think. And the war he talks about the ballroom and the guild and the gold and everything else. And even if I'm living his final speech on the reflecting pool, which he still insists was vandalized, even though everyone has established, it wasn't vandalized. This is an air of delusion. And, you know, it's the emperor with no clothes and it's Cabinet aren't telling him, "Donald, you're making a complete mess of this." And so, I think that that is. I don't think the Democrats have set out a clear agenda. There is clearly a battle. I just agree with that. I know it's a holy disagree with that. Well, I think the Democrats haven't set out a clear agenda. Well, I think the Democrats. I think there is a battle that is ongoing within the Democratic Party. Is it the establishment Democratic Party of, you know, Clinton and all the rest of it? Or is it a new, much more radical left-wing party that would be, you know, kind of not on you unlike some of the left in the Labour Party in the UK? And I think that that is an unresolved battle and that is why Michigan, I think, is so critical to what happens in 2028 in the presidential election. Because if, if that were outside wins, you could see potentially making a run for the presidency. But, actually, he's very much becoming embraced as a new face of the Democrat Party. And I, for one, find that wildly concerning. I think most classical liberals in this country should find that wildly concerning. The Republicans fall into the same trap the Democrats made with Trump. Overdemonizing somebody. Not at all. And I think Abdullah Saeed has been overdemonized and he's helped him. In what way? Because they made it when they call him a radical jihadist. I mean, it's pretty reasonable to ask questions. It's not your mother worked for an organization that we proved in 2008, but he's not an Islamist jihadist. Sure. You can look at it. You can look at it. I hope not. I don't think he's given the compelling case of the American people to discipline the Muslim brother. Why do I think he's given that? What is, indeed, directly funding his campaign? I think he's left. I think he's left. I think he's left. I don't think there's anything that is lawful. I'm asking questions if a Muslim brotherhood is funding. I feel the same way. When the left called Trump a Nazi, I feel the same way. It's like it's ridiculously overdemonizing somebody. Well, there's plenty to go at. I just don't know if you can go outside of all sorts of things. I mean, humanizing to ask questions about funding your campaign. No, it's not. When Donald Trump stands up at a rally and says, "Abdull, why call him a hamid?" Yeah, and all the rest of it, it's just, it's demonite. Let's say it was, you know, and goes rammed down. Rammed down. If someone did that about Jews and Yon Kippur. Obviously, hell. People are doing that about Jews. Here's not the president. It's not the president. Not the president. People who Abdul-Assad are refusing to denounce, like Hassan Piker, who has called for very radical action in violence, not just against Jews, but against Americans that vote differently than you voted for. But why should he have to go around denouncing random people on the region? It's not random people. It's people who you've appeared on live streams with and appeared at political events with. But asking questions about the funding sources of your campaign coming from known designated terrorist organizations? Yes. Is 100% of the people in this region? Yeah, you're watching the mainstream media go out of their way to say even asking a single question is supposedly Islamophobic. And that exact appropriation has now been given to Congresswoman Hailey Stevens. I said I'm telling you what. People calling her radically Islamophobic because she doesn't agree with a Hassan Piker normalized left-wing violence, wing of the Democratic Party, and that is a wildly important decision. It is clear she doesn't know me. She posted to social media. She said I do not like Hassan Piker. I do not like the direction of the Democratic Party. She was asked repeatedly yesterday on CNN why she changed her mind in the last 24 hours. And she was incapable of answering. Okay, well, let's talk about this then because repeatedly, Abdul-Assad has refused to denounce someone like Hassan Piker. Instead says I want to capture his audience of 3 million daily listeners that tune into this young man's live stream. But they need a live stream that then tells people we should let the streets of America run red with capitalist blood who has said America deserved 9/11, who has said that America as an entity is a worst, more evil organization than most known terrorist organizations on the planet. And who has undoubtedly made no mistake about it, normalized political violence in America. Look, it's perfectly reasonable that you say why are you friends with these people. It's also perfectly logical. If you're Abdul-Assad and you're the campaign manager, whether you stand, you know, wherever you stand politically, to think I want to stick to my messaging. I don't want the messaging imposed on me to be continually asked am I a journalist? He joined Hassan Piker's live stream. But he is trying to talk about it for the benefit of his audience. He can't have the full way. You know, it's amazing because people demand that Republican politicians in America denounce anyone who has deemed fringe or potentially radical or violent in our country. I think of how many times Republican politicians have demanded. to have denounced Nick Fuentes, for example, and it is an absolute scandal if they give anything less than a full-throated, unequivocal denouncement of those individuals. There's a lot of hypocrisy on both sides, but I do think my point about the over demonizing is, mainly, it's self-defeating. What it normally does is help the person being over demonized because they're able to illustrate, they're not, in Trump's case, Adolf Hitler, or in Abd al-Assad's case, he's obviously not a radical jihadist, so when people keep saying they are, but the evidence all points to the contrary, I don't think it damages the candidate. It helps. And furthermore, I think that if he wins tomorrow and I, he is even stronger. I agree with that, actually. Because he will, let's say, you throw everything at me. I had to walk through fire. They were throwing spears in my direction, and even my, you know, democratic rival betrays me at the last moment, and still I win. That is going to embolden the Latin America. And also, I also think, by the way, the Democrats are getting a bench of people who are very skillful public. Yes, outside is one, Mamadani, I think. James Calary is another, obviously got AOC. They're young, they're dynamic, they're eloquent. You know, I may not agree with all their policies. And that's where the conversation needs to go. It does, but I do think there's a threat to the Republicans of a young team now, of very skillful public performers, eating up the oxygen of the media in a way that if I was a Republican, I'd be quite alarmed by how much traction that's getting. Well, frankly, why I'm so excited by someone like Brandon Gill, who I mentioned earlier, he's young, he's charismatic, he has a new generation of ideas to bring to the Republican Party. In clear conversation here, I think we do need to be focusing on the policies because my biggest problem with Abdul Al-Sahed, or James Talleriko, or any of these more radical left wing progressive candidates, infiltrating and taking over the leadership of the Democrat Party, are indeed their policies, things that radically lean more towards socialism and authoritarianism, unapologetically, to the point that there are many people going for the abolition of the Senate, or the president. So I agree. And John, and we had a bit of this with Jeremy Corbyn in the UK, when he something became leader of the Labour Party, and he was a very radical, progressive, left character, if you like. And it all went up in smoke. And so there is a sense here where you can always be careful what you wish for if you're the Democrats. If you do want to win in 2028, you've got to be careful, perhaps you don't get dragged too far to the left and make yourself unelectable in the general election. And I think if we're going to make the comparison between the UK and the US, I think the centre of political gravity in the United States of America is towards free markets, towards capitalism. It's not to where Jeremy Corbyn was. Jeremy Corbyn was too left wing for British politics. Someone like that in US politics, I know there is all the enthusiasm of the youth. I've been to the Bernie Sanders rallies, and they get enormous attendance, but that doesn't win you an election. That doesn't win you the Midwest. That might not even win you some of the coastal, you know. So I just think the Democrats have to be very careful in drawing too many conclusions if a progressive wins, because I'm not sure you win from the far left in America. Completely agree. Okay, prediction time. What's going to happen? I wish I could predict anything in the next 24 to 48 hours. I think it'll probably lean slightly to the left, particularly in the House when it comes to our turnout, but I really do think this is going to be a neck and neck election across the board. Could the Republicans hold the Senate, do you think? It's possible. I think there are eccentricities in the races. Like Alaska, I think what we've just talked about in Michigan, you look at Maine where Susan Collins is defending her. He always outpoles the closing polls. And, you know, in the last election, you're the Washington guru. I have many elections. I reckon it could end up with 50/50 and JD Vance still holding the casting vote in the Senate. Wow. That would be a thriller. It's going to be a big night and just to remind you, tomorrow night will be here for four hours live from seven to eleven p.m. Eastern. And we'll go a bit longer if we have to. It's going to be a roller coaster night. So, make sure you come and watch. Here's Morgan Uncensored. 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