Trafalgar Law Runs the "Warlord Gauntlet" | Davy’s Dark Tournament (Ep. 63)

[BLANK_AUDIO] >> Hey, Rare. >> Hey, how are we? >> Are we live? Are we live? >> Are we live? >> I see, yeah. >> It looks like we are live. Hello and welcome everyone to another episode of Davey's Dark Tournament. The series where we have you guys comments at our discord voice channel and discuss hypothetical matchups in the one piece verse. You know the vibes who you got, what Diff and why? And we're bringing back the gauntlet style the day. I know you guys seem to really like that last time. We switch up the DDT format a little bit to get more debating going. So this should be a lot of fun. Please let me know if we're having any sound or technical difficulties on your end. Sorry about the delay. Had a bunch of stuff going on here trying to figure it out. >> Yeah, Larry's webcam is crazy. Sorry, we're just trying to make a happen for him. We couldn't make it happen. So he just got the picture. For you guys that want to participate in this, you have to be a Nakama or Lord or a Yonkel tiered member on the discord. And then you'll join the DDT entrance section. So please, for those of you who want to participate, please enter in on the DDT entrance. It is a locked membership only voice channel that you will require. But yeah, it's a lot of fun, man. I'm really excited. We had a really interesting matchup today. It is law. Trafalgar law, the former warlord facing off against some of his former counterparts in the warlord. Or Shichibu Kai status in one piece. But before we get started, I do have Larry here and a few of our mods and staff. So Larry was going on, bro. >> The men just live in life. Really excited about this warlord gauntlet. I personally towed Sebastian where we should put each individual according to round one through five. And after some talks, we had some great, we had like a little great little back and forth about everybody. And when I looked at this list, it actually made me kind of excited for the DDT. I mean, I'm usually excited, but I was more excited than the usual excitement I feel. So this is a really good matchup for law. I know a lot of people overestimate law, but these group of people I do think give him a very hard time in very specific areas that his toolkit happens to be very impressive. So I can't wait to hear these debates. I do want to hear what the mod's got to say to you about like what round they go. Like he goes up to, but oh man, there's going to be a fun one set. I could feel it. Yeah, it should be a lot of fun. I see Toby's in here. Jiverse is here. Twilight is here. What's going on? It's me. Hi, they don't know who you are. No one knows who you are. I feel like I introduced myself every time I come on one of these videos and they still don't know. They'll still never know, bro. They got, they got to know why this point. I don't think so, bro. I was like, when I see it, I was like, your versus in here. That is crazy. Oh, man. I almost like that. But yeah, I'm excited, man. It's going to see the reverse. You sticking for the whole thing. Are you dipping? What's up? Uh, I'm beginning to my laundry dries. OK, I don't know what that means for a good 40 minutes. I'll take it. I'll take it. All right, again, y'all, if you want to participate in the DDT, enter the DDT entrance. I know some of y'all jumped into the entrance to the den. It's a different entrance. It's the DDT entrance. Please jump in there so we can pick from you guys. We're going to have you guys come in in groups and how this will work is we'll give each of you guys like a minute to discuss where you think law will the DDT runner will land. So where you think he stops on the gauntlet, where do you think he won't be able to clear is essentially what we're asking was around one is around two is around three is around four is around five. So for law, round one will be crocodile, round two will be Bartholomew Kuma, round three will be Doflamingo, round four will be Boah, Hancock and round five will be me hawk. So do you think law clears this call it he will have full recovery after each round. So please think it up, you know, take some time to think exactly where you want to go here, where you think law should end up or not. We're going to read some super chats before we get completely started, but I'm really excited about this one. I have my idea of where I think law should place here, but I'm curious to see where other people will tell me, you know, see how creative they can get. Yeah, we got a $5 super chat that came in, I think before we started streaming. So thank you so much from Kevin Nunez, it says, in my opinion, current law clears crocodile Kuma and Dofl, Hancock pushes him to extreme diff, but me hawk me hawk's hockey finally stops the gauntlet. Okay. So they think law makes it to all the way to round five. We'll see if a lot of people agree with them or not, but stops at round five. Okay. That's interesting. Then we got another $50 super chat from Xavier O'Dilly. Thank you so much. Man, hey, $50. It says, "Happy related to, sorry I missed Monday, was super busy at work. Hope you had a blast and are enjoying the next display of domination." Well, question, if Ragnar knows everything, why did he stay in hammer form all this time instead of stealing the key? Well, we don't know what Ragnar knows. One, and two, based off the legend, it seemed as if he was waiting or is waiting or was waiting for somebody worthy, you know? Or do you mean stealing the key to Loki's hammer? I mean, Loki's like chains is what I'm assuming you're saying. I mean, plot? Maybe there's an actual restriction there. Maybe he can only stay in. Squirrel form? Squirrel form for a short period of time. Maybe he doesn't know where the key is. Maybe he was searching forever and couldn't find it. Well, no, he would have had to fight Gabon for the key. Yeah, that's all about the same. Maybe Gabon stopped him, you know? I don't know. I don't have a strong or quality answer, Larry, do you have something in mind for that? I don't know. Why didn't Ragnar go get that key for Loki? I mean, probably good at move. He was also chained up with C-stone. Was it Ragnar and C-stone? Yeah, if I remember right, wasn't Ragnar also chained up for the key? He's also on Loki, yeah, he's on Loki, chained up. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's true. Yeah, Loki had like 13 chains on, bro. Yeah. Okay, that's an ambulance. It's a better answer than I gave. I completely forgot about that. I'm now interested in Ragnar versus Gabon though. He's sparked my interest there. Yeah, that's an interesting one. Guys, like the stream, if you haven't already, it does help with a YouTube algorithm. We got 109 people in here, but only 29 likes, please hit that like button. I don't think there's anything like the DDT in the one piece community or any anime community. So we'd like to get some support for that. And in general, it just reaches out to more people if you guys hit the like button. So don't have to donate, obviously, but hitting the like button if you guys are enjoying the content would be great. And again, you guys get to give your takes on some of these match ups, which is awesome, which is what I really like about this. But thank you Xavier. I really appreciate it. When you get another 20 months, a knock on a status from creator Keon, it says legit thought Lawrence would tear it up here. I feel like the twins would do great in the DDT setting. They like to debate. They like the power scale, even more than I like to, to be honest. It's just the timing. It doesn't typically work for them. I'm gonna be honest. That's kind of really what holds us back there. The timing is really the issue. Yeah. I guess I could change the date of a DDT to like a Thursday instead of Wednesdays to make it easier for them. But as Larry will tell you, relying on the twins to show up the stuff, it's not how you want to, that's not how you want to build your business, right? Like you don't want to, you don't want to bank on that, you know what I'm saying? You want to change your business model around the twins schedule because it's not going to work out for you more often than not. I'll say that. We did get another Nakama joint in the ship in Lee Nate. So welcome. Enjoy all the emojis that come up being a Nakama. We got another 10 CHF, I'm not sure exactly what that is, but thank you. It says, I wish I could participate in these, but it's way too late for me. Question. Oh, it's from Tobias Mell. Mellie. Sorry. Question. You got to have Larry answered in Discord already, love you boys. Shout out to the mods. If it's marine Ford, white beard, I definitely have Lucy. I do. I'm not. Come on. I definitely do. Can't be caught in a blood versus the sun, God, man. Woofies, two tenacious. It's. It's too hard. Uh, yeah. If it's, oh, wait, base. Loufi. Oh, wow. Um, yeah. I was just saying base isn't current base, Loufi. Hmm. Hmm. Can you just pull out your four and it's base for hold on. So that's what they say is base, Loufi not accounting any gears. It's just base. Like you can use hockey as I'm saying, what is what is base, Loufi now when people say base Loufi. Now they mean like gear two and gear two and gear three, no gear four, I feel like gear four. He still pull out gear four and base for now, like he doesn't have to go full transformation. Like he just straight, talking back like he did does gear second, like just naturally without going the full transformation. I'm. I'm gonna go Louvie. It just changes the diff for me. - He said hockey only. - Hockey only, hockey only. - Okay. - Hockey only, okay. - So no gear two, no gear three, none of that. Just hockey. - That's good. - Feel so hockey. Yeah, I got white beer. - All right. - I don't know, I still got Louvie. Old white beer can't use any conquerors hockey in the slightest. - Yeah, that's the thing, like he's so, he's so washed. - And he has on and on the observation. - Thank you. - I can see that. - I still wanna go white beer, I'm not gonna lie. - Now I'm gonna go Louvie. I'm gonna go Louvie. I'm gonna extreme diff though. No, no gears. Be just in a pocket swinging. - I don't even know if I'd say extreme diff, but. - Right. - I'm going extreme. - Like I think we're under estimate of how nerve white beard was. - I'm going extreme diff bro. I'm going extreme. But I'm a white beard guy, I just have. - I'd say high. - I think if you don't consider hockey as you know the end all be all, then you're gonna definitely think that Louvie would have a harder time. - But just based on hockey alone. - Yeah. - Like you gotta choose Louvie and base form. - White beard wasn't able to use any of his hockey. He was just going pure devil fruit. - Well, he was hurting animals, right? So he had to use some hockey, right? He had a little bit of armament, but Marco said he couldn't use any observation. And Conqueror's hockey was like out of the question. Like he was spitting up even more blood, I think when he attempted. - Is this so squad didn't stab him though. This is like coming in. No stab. - Right. - Hold on. - Hold on. - Hold on. I'm trying to get a real gauge what we do here. I'm going to Louvie. I'm going to Louvie. - If Louvie can't beat that old dying man, then we have problems. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm going to be real. That man is old and dying, coughing a blood, getting stabbed by a squarro, getting this attack stepped on by a kind who, if Louvie can't handle that in base right now, then we got bigger problems. I'm going to Louvie. I'm still going to extreme though. I'm still going to extreme. - Louvie and base form being white beard. The one that clashed with shanks as well. - Trevor. - Fair. - I don't know, man. - I think it's a lot closer if it's like hooked up on man's white beard. - He was hooked up on that stuff too. - So? - Yeah. - He was hooked up on that. I think that's what let him use talking to the first place. - It's really, the real question is is the white beard that body ace, is he still body in Louvie? - No. - Base. - No. - Absolutely not brother. I think the clash that Louvie base form did against Kaido when they exploded the sky is more impressive than what shanks and white beard did. I think the reason why they only split the sky was because shanks didn't go all out against white beard. - Oh man. - Hmm. - Hmm. - I put a poll up. Let us know your thoughts in the chat, vote up. Now they're 20 from Ragnar. It says, "Call me crazy." But I believe Shamrock actually loves shanks, but despises the lower realm that he feels corrupted him. I believe that due to that love, he was the one who stalled Kaido and scarred white beard. What are your thoughts? No and no on the last two. I don't think that is the case. As far as what Shamrock and Shanks' actual relationship and his care for his brother, I think that's very possible. I think that that allows for a lot of nuance to be added to the relationship. I know I dropped my theory or just analysis of like, garling and emulating. What's his face? Tywin from Game of Thrones. If Shamrock is meant to be the Jamie, Jamie had a lot of love for Tyrion, you know what I mean? He even freed him in certain situations. So I could definitely see Shamrock having love for shanks and not caring for the world that he looks at corrupted him. I don't think he's the one that stepped into Stop Kaido or that he's the one that scarred white beard though. I feel like those two things don't need to coexist. I've never liked the theory that he's the one who scarred white beard. There is a new one going around though that's like, he's the one who the government sent to like kill all the babies when Ace was born, like in that time period. It's more like a kid versus shanks kind of theory. It's like, kid was also born around the same time. So the theory is that Shamrock killed his mother along with other people in the area. - I mean, I'm with that. - And like, that's why a kid has-- - I'm with that. - That's why a kid has a beef with shanks. - What's the ages though? Are a kid in Ace like similar age? I don't remember. - I think they would have been born the same time if Rouge had it held off for like 20 months. - Okay, so during the roundup of the babies that would have, okay. - Yeah, and they're born in the same blue. So I like that. I actually like that a lot. Hold on now. They might be cooking. How old was Shamrock have been? Hold on. - Shamrock would have been 16. - That's a dark mission for a 60 year old. But-- - I mean, Gucci was here, Gucci was there. - So, we're at S.R.A.D. Who dropped that? That's a good one. I like that. - I see it randomly on Twitter. - I gotta find it again. - Let me do that. I'm stealing it. - I'm stealing it. - I'm playing. - That's cool though. That's a nice little thought. But yeah, I don't think he's the one who scarred wipe beard. I know Larry don't think that. And then the selling kind of, I just think, if we given that to Shamrock, we're taking a little bit away from shakes is lower. I kind of like the shanks did that. I also feel like he is more, the act of stopping Kido is more in line with what shanks would do than anything that Shamrock would do. Right, in my opinion. Because shanks is all about like, not so much status quo, but like protecting the balance and making sure things don't go too far left and one way or the other. I could be overestimating shanks with that light, but like, I don't know, I feel like that kind of action is more his bag, right? Protection, prevention. And he did still show up at the war, right? So like, if Shamrock, are they both like on the way and Kido gets stopped by Shamrock while shanks keeps going? Like, is that what we're saying? Like, I don't know. Like the other piece of it is like, it was reported that the ship's made contact. Shamrock was like on Shanks' ship. Like, what are we saying? He has a version of the red forest or whatever it's called. I don't know. It's cleaner if we don't wreck on too much of the situations in my opinion. - I sent you the modchap, by the way. - Appreciate you, appreciate you, appreciate you. All right, before we move on, I do see that we got joined by another couple of mods in here, so or staff. I see Redhead shanked them and hit it, hit it. You came to support your men. I love that, bro. I love that for you. What's going on, y'all? - I don't like how you're worthy of it. What's your name? - There was no other way to wear it. I don't like how you're worthy of the other way to wear that. - How are we supposed to wear it, bro? - The appropriate term is, is your mans. - Ah, that's your mans. - The more appropriate term is your mans, not man. - Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. - How you doing? - I'm going, I'm going, I'm going. - Are you going, boy? Okay. - Now, did you come up with a way for law to clear the gauntlet? - Listen, bro, I'm a little busy today. - Okay. - So if I have the time to deal with the BS, I'll deal with it. - All right, we'll see, bro. It's good to have you shake them. I feel like I haven't talked to you in a minute, bro. What's going on? - Yeah, man, been mad, busy. I'm just chilling, man. I actually had some free time. So just thought I'd pop in. - Okay. - So just quick question on the gauntlet. Is it current versions of all the opponents? - Yes, sir. - You were just, okay, cool. - Yeah. - All right. All right, we'll continue through the Superchats and then we'll get to them. We have about 10 people in the DDT entrance, so we'll put you guys in groups of five. Again, guys, if you want to participate, become a server tiered member of Nakama or higher, and you'll have access to the DDT entrance voice channel and then we'll drag you guys up in groups of five, and you'll each be given one minute to discuss, to discuss where you think law will land, and then you'll have a deliberation around between all of you guys to discuss how you feel. So let's get to it. We got another five gifted memberships from David Yoke. So thank you so much, David. I'll get some more people in here. So if you guys aren't already members, join in on the entrance to the den, and then we'll drag you guys into the DDT entrance, because we have a bunch of people superchatting, and these superchats all fund people's ways into these calling streams and these DDT. So thank you guys so much for that. Another five, from Shadow, it says, let's see if someone is smart enough to say a very important detail that counters law's strongest move. I still haven't heard anyone say it in years. Okay, Shadow, are you in here? 'Cause I'm curious what you got to say about this, bro. I hope you're here, or at least that you superchat later, with whatever your answer is here for this. But I'm curious now. Please let us know. And then we got another two from Creator Keon. I was talking about Lawrence versus the God. Larry, how far do you think Lawrence gets on this garlic, man? on this one. Yeah. He losing a bow, bro. He making a pass. Don't be. Okay. Yeah. I think, I think, I think Lawrence is an incredibly huge perv low key. Mm-hmm. And he would fall victim to bow. Okay. As we all would. I'm a viewer. We all would, bro. Just, just keep it in our butt. Us? We, you two. I know you're homosexual, but it's okay. Like you would still fall. What? You still fall victim, bro. It's okay. He's allegation on my name. Oh, kidding, man. I'm good. She's worse. We bring in all the random, the random, uh, milfs back to the shed after the boat rides, man. I see how it's, I think it's all set up, bro. It's crazy. It's crazy, Larry. He had the implication on it. It's the implication shake. It's, it's the, it's the implication. Uh, if you don't get that watch, always sunny. That's all I could say. Another two aggregator broccoli. It has the best drip on this college. We got some fly people. I think we could, we could automatically eliminate Kuma, right? I think we can, we can get Kuma out. I would, although that sherpa is fire in real life. Um, but mehawk, boa, dofee, law and crocodile. Who's got the best drip, guys? Best. Laws include laws include laws include. I'm putting everybody here, law. You want law? Goofy. Yeah. Well, I don't personal style. I gotta say law. I like the cookies cook better than those laws. Just cuz y'all dressed like law. Doesn't mean it's the best. I'm gonna be real. I'm gonna be real. I'm gonna be real. I, I wanted to go law, but that head is so stupid. I'm gonna be real. But it is, it is. I love the Chelsea's. I love the Paul Pritt pants. I love the, I love the, the jackets that he switched in and out. The hat, bro. And you know, the reason why I'm saying this is that my boy Corey from Moonpiece, Shouts and Moonpiece podcast, he dressed up as law for a mummokon. And he tried to, he tried to style the hat, bro. The hat is just, it's just dumb. That's not, that's not, listen, no, that you're looking at it at a different angle though. You mad cuz y'all can't replicate it. It's tough cuz he made, he makes it unreplicable. It's, it's goofy. It doesn't even look tough on him. It's it. It's just goofy. What? What? Wait, why are we talking about the one old, the one old hat? No, it's the same hat. The little, the little, the little, the, the, the spots. The one that's hard. Why y'all, why y'all like that's not hard? No, like going on, bro, that had to be the only hat that he got that isn't hard is his pre timescapad. I didn't like the, the law, the brim going all the way around. That wasn't it. No, that was, why y'all, why y'all lying, listen, the only hat that wasn't, that wasn't cool is that he had that one yellow one. Go ahead, defend your man, bro. All right, man, you know, see, see what you pull cuz like this man, all right, now I'm gonna go back on you. I ain't dealing with you today. He said, no, my man fly, okay? He can fly. He said it's close on the morning. I mean, yo, just head on swag to head on swag. Just just listen. Hey, hey, I'll say it, my man fly. I don't kid. I'll give you foul verdict is laws being a fire or not, bro. I feel like I feel like laws is like what white women were wearing during the 2000s when they went to clubs. That's facts. That's facts. I didn't know. They don't know. They don't know. If Michael Jackson wore that same hat, yo, it's easy. Hold on, you're trying to tell me where to go. There's a picture of Courtney loving that hat. Listen, I don't know, bro. I don't know. All right, I put the voter. They said they had his fly in the chat. The boys finale $2 from Zach the go. I haven't seen it. Larry, have you seen it? I haven't watched either. I haven't seen it. Spoiler free thoughts if you can. Wasn't worth it. Okay. That's what I've heard all around. Okay. All right. Larry wasn't a fan of the boys finale. I think you were in a fan of the whole season for what I remember, but okay. Yeah, I would say that earlier the boys seasons was much better than this season for sure. Okay. I would even say the season three. Gen V was also better than this season. Okay. Gen V season one, I think. Yeah. Yeah, I was about to say. Gen V season two was a little tough. Nothing. I think the boys should have ended as season three. Okay. We got a $2 from TKTT. It says Kobe's honesty impact. Does it clear smoker, Crocacabal, Dofi and Gecko? Yes. Smoker. Absolutely. We can go ahead and get that. I might be real, bro. I might be real. Yeah. I might be the biggest co-beater in the world. I don't think it clears any of them. All right. All right. You don't fit. Well, are you know what? Yes. Okay. No, no, I don't think I don't think honestly impact one shot any of them. That's what it's saying. No, absolutely. Absolutely. I think it's one shots. It says clear. It says clear. Yeah. All right. Smoker. Yes. But the rest know. I'm going. I'm going to say there was a smoker too. If he. I'm going to know. And that's the impact on smoker. Smokers going down. Smoker. Now we haven't seen, now we haven't seen much of how. Moria. Moria interacts with like advanced applications of hockey. Yeah. I'm gonna hockey, but he was pretty durable. If you go back and look at thriller bargain, everything that he had to. I mean, he was kind of getting hit by mosquitoes. You know, I mean, like that's great. Closing key. Closing key. Moria. All right. Let's get some people in here, man. And discuss these, uh, this actual gauntlet, man, we good on the Kobe talk, right? We good on that. Shay, uh, Twilight, I was going to ask you to record who entered the, the Den of knock on the chat first. I mean, the, uh, the DDT entrance chat first, but like, uh, uh, I know. I know it has been there since. He's been there since the start. Okay. Yeah. I feel like he wasn't. I feel like he was in the interest of the Den. I had to drag him down. Okay. You know, he might have been in the entrance of the Den. He had to pull him down. Reverse mute up, man. My bag. 3D to wide open. Been here for a while, too. Sure he has, bro. I'm just going to alphabetical order, man. One, two, three, four, five. All right. Davey's still getting here anyway. All right. Cool. Hello, hello, hello, gentlemen and potential non binaries. How's it going? concept. We're good. We're good. Uh, bro. What's going on, man? Um, today, yeah, we'll be tasked with determining what round or whether or not he clears the warlord gullet for Trafalgar law. Each of you will be given one minute to discuss, um, where you think uh, law is able to land on his gauntlet, uh, or whether he clears it. Round one is crocodile, round two is Bartolomew Kuma. Round three is Dofomingo. Round four is Bo Hancock and round five is mehawk. So each of you, I will get one minute to discuss where you think law will land or if he clears. And then we'll have a deliberation round where you guys will have an open forum to discuss whether people are changing their votes. So everybody mute up until I call on you. Um, but we will go to, um, I don't know, man, Alex are Alex, your first talk. Yeah. What's going on? Uh, I personally, I'm shutting them down at crocodile. Oh wow. Okay. You say he makes it past crock or not, even past crock. I don't even think he gets past crock. I mean, um, based on like him being up there with mehawk, we don't really know what he can do now. And he, he, he boxed with mehawk on Marine Ford. And if we're calling him shanks rival, and I don't think law is really beating anybody outside of a ring out. Hmm. Okay. So I mean, I'm shutting them down at crocodile personally. All right. Does it make it past crock? Doesn't even clear round one. Hit a no, no rebuttals. Uh, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Next, we will go to, but boy, but boy, I don't know how to say it. One minute. You can hear me right. Can you? Yes, sir. Perfect. Um, I think he makes it past crock. I think he makes it past kuma. And I think he makes it, yeah, he'll make a past dose. I think he, I think he stops at mehawk, stops at mehawk. Okay. Yeah, I think he doesn't fall for um, ballad lift. Well, I don't know, if they take you, put it here, that side of your power. I don't think he'd fall for her lust and all that. So yeah, stopping at me hook. Okay. Appreciate that. We'll go to diamond. How y'all doing? Yeah, I'm going to agree with the boy. He also started family park. Rock? Holly is stronger than he was three times skip but I don't think he'd be like stronger than logic because law is like pretty like outside like the animals and the uncles like law is like right there and he's able to like fight with them for some time. I don't think crocodiles on the level. He gets past Kuma. Yeah, Kuma's ability is tricky but I don't think he has anything that will put a lot down because law for like someone who's kind of not known for endurance. He could like withstand a lot. He took demons, retired on Big Mom. Dofi I think he'd be Dofi because even though Dofi knows his moves, law is stronger now and he has awakening. So it's like usually rematches go like the person kind of like losing or barely one is like a lot stronger like Luffy and Luchi. A law is like stronger than Luffy but what doesn't have anything to pull law down and speculation, I have mihark like relative to chance at least. So I think he's up there. Okay. Appreciate the take diamond. We will go to David Yokes. David talk to me. How's it going, can you? All right. I think he stops at mihark also and that's just me giving mihark fans, you know, the the time of day today because we don't really know how strong mihark is. It's a lot of speculation and comparing to other people but we'll go off the thing off the statement that he's relative to chance. And I don't see Boa's fruit affecting law either. Um, Dofi has been locked up in a cage this whole time, strapped to the ground. He hasn't been able to get any stronger since then. Law has. Um, Kuma was a tricky one because I kind of placed Kuma above Dofi and above Boa. Okay. But where you got him in the in the DDT, I'm going to have to say passes him and Crocodile. I mean, he got packed up by Luffy and some blood. So I'll sleep on Crocodile. I'll sleep on a boy. I'll sleep on a guy. I'll sleep. He's cool. He might have gotten stronger. He's cool. He might have gotten stronger, but we haven't seen it. No, no, no, no, let Crocodile make contact, man. He got one headed quitter, too. Okay. That poison that poison hook. Hey, man. He drain law. We'll see. If you can live, hit his dream. He what law? Praise him. Praise him. Hey, man, he can be living your dream. All right. We'll go to, uh, thank you, Davey. We'll go to 3D. Yeah. All right. So I think he gets a pass Crocodile. Law has it displayed like a lot of hockey, but I think he could still cut him with his basic hockey. And he can, he can, uh, get his heart because he took smokers heart and he's a logo as well. So I think he could get Crocodile's heart and kept, uh, pretty much beat him that way. Um, I think he gets past Kuma. I mean, if we're saying current Kuma, that's kind of unfair. I mean, he's kind of, like, oh, yeah. Sorry, y'all for for Kuma. It's the best version of Kuma. He's the only one who's not current. You know, he's a sound mind and, and yeah, he can fight. No, I do have a question about that for Kuma. What do we count? And I mean, cause I don't some people say like, essentially, I'm saying the, the Kuma that I works Kuma. Yeah. I'm saying he's got the Kuma we saw through the work. That's the Kuma or somebody or whatever, that Kuma. He can speak. He can, he's cognizant. He's fat. He can do his thing. That cool. Okay. But continue. Sorry. Yeah. I still got a lot. I think he can dismantle Kuma. He can cut him up pretty easily. I mean, Kuma hasn't shown hockey to be able to really stop devil fruits. I mean, he did that one hockey punch on Saturn, but that was really about it. And I think he stops at Dofu Mingo, because I don't think I think it's an even fight. I just don't know if he gets past it. Okay. I just think Dofu Mingo has way too much. You know, he has parasite. He has the heavenly strings like he's got the awakening as well. Yeah. All right. So that's everybody's take. We have one for saying he doesn't clear any rounds. One saying he stops at round three and three saying he stops at round five, but nobody saying that he can clear. Okay. You guys will have five minutes to deliberate amongst yourselves. And I guess I'll start with Alex. Alex, you had the lowest rating here with him, not even passing crocodile. Do you want to give some pushback for what you heard from the rest of your contemporaries here regarding? Yeah. I mean, uh, I don't know where this law upscales coming from. He's, uh, he hasn't took the single W outside of a narrative ring out. And like I said, uh, my thing is if Shanks is as strong as he is, and with, uh, mehawk being his rival and crocodile being even with him where they're at in the story right now. Narratively, I think I have to put crocodile over him. Come on now. You're not saying crocodiles even with mehawk. I'm not saying it is even, but I'm saying he's at a level where he's at the respect of mehawk. So are you saying that, um, the crocodism relative to mehawk, the same way mehawk relative to Shanks? No. I'm saying he's relative enough to where he's got the respect of mehawk when law hasn't done anything, but get a narrative ring out. That's his only gun. He hasn't, but he hasn't been able to get his crocodile that high. Is buggy? Is buggy not a yonko like Shanks? Does he know how they respect as much respect as he's the shakers as Shanks right? I mean, I mean, we've, we've seen the respect buggy gets from mehawk. Wait, could he hit a rebutt already? You can't rebutt right now. There will be a round, sir. Gee, those, those, those, you know, those are freebie. Great. Those just established rules. I apologize, Alex. No, you're good. You're good. I'm, I'm, I've been up for like 32 hours and I got to be at work in three hours. So, that's why man. That's why I'm a little exhausted, but yeah, that's why I don't, I don't even think we have a one-piece story if the narrative doesn't save Luffy from crocodile. Hmm. Talk to him. But you're using the narrative of skill crocodile relative to mehawk, but you don't want to use it as skill law that high. Like if you're buggy at the, at the point where he hasn't caught a W outside of a ring out. I mean, that was a two on the one and we're talking about his relative to like he's able to stand his ground against admirals and yonko's when I'm, I mean, if you want to use that, though flamingo was like in cold sweat thinking of kissing our title and law pulled up on him disrupted his whole operation and like far title and big long. Oh, no, no, I, I think, I think law can be kuma and stand toe-to-toe with doflamingo. I think crocodiles in the wrong spot in this guy personally. I think he should be right around where bow is. I think he should be higher up. And I'm not even like crocodile that much, but I just, I personally think if we're going to give law the narrative W's, we got to give crocodile the fact that he's got the respect of mehawk where he's at now. Okay. So Alex other than just the respect that he gets from mehawk, what else has he done to to make you say he should be up there on the, I mean, wasn't he slashing with mehawk at marine fort as well. I know it's the, the beast, and the beast that clashed it. What's that? Are you with Vista versus law? No, I got, I got, I got, I'll give it the law. Okay. I'll give the law over Vista. But we don't see these anymore. We see crocodile alive and well. But we haven't seen him do anything besides take out like some fodder and marine ships going after bugging. I mean, that's my point too. His law hasn't done anything just clapped up by Doflamingo and Blackbeard. He's done, he's helped take down a yanko. He was like 50% of that dub versus Big Mom. You're saying, you, what, what crocodile would want to give clack up by Blackbeard right now? Hmm. Yeah. Think about it. I'm not 100% sure. Like I said, I, I, I just think crocodile needs to be further up the list. I don't, I personally don't think law clears them at all. Okay. We, we, we, we undersold crock. Who else got words for this? Yeah, I got another two minutes. Uh, word. I mean, I guess the boa placement, maybe swap her with like Dofe, we, we not swap this because she don't much work for that. No, no, I'm saying like, ideally, just because she don't have the feet Dofe has, because she kind of has a wincon versus anyone who's kind, who's less full. But I get why the like law versus Dofe, like Dofe, going to underestimate law like he did. And after that fight in dress Rosa, log kind of found his like rhythm to live because he was planning on dying like killing Doframingo. And that's my head cannon of how he got his awakening. And I don't think Dofi will have anything to counter that. And then Boa, she really doesn't have a wincon because like law is kind of like, what's the word I'm looking for like Stoic, maybe like Zoro, where they're not really like attracted to like like they won't be affected by Boa's like beauty. You can call it that. I disagree. I disagree on that because Boa still has the slave arrow. And if she hits law with that, but he's going to get slowly turned. Yeah, but law couldn't teleport. Yeah, I don't think he's lacking in speed or dodge Boa's attacks like she could catch like people like Kobe off guard, the laws. That's time, you know. All right. So is anybody changing their vote based on what they heard in the deliberation round? I'll go one by one Alex. Did anybody come in? I forgot I'm stopping at crack. Okay. So it doesn't clear clock. Doesn't get the note. Okay. That's crazy. I can't remember who said what diamond. You said round five. He stopped at me. Oh, yeah, he still stops at me. Okay. Well, boy, I stopped at me. Hook. I convinced me. I'm going to change it just a little bit. I'm saying he clears me up now because if it's lobbied beast, uh, beast, uh, beast, uh, yeah, trolling. Okay. Yeah, that's that's my answer. He clears clear. Okay. Okay. And then, uh, 3D. He still stops at dopamine. All right. Okay. Interesting. Interesting round. I appreciate y'all. Um, sticker. Well, I'm probably not going to drag y'all back up in here because this is the only matchup we're doing. But I appreciate y'all sticking around and giving y'all's takes on this. And y'all kept their respectful, even though y'all was arguing and debate in here. So appreciate y'all. And make sure y'all continue to to let me know when hit is breaking the rules. So so I can, I can check in for that. Thank you. Yeah. Of course, man. All right. Let's get another group. Thank you for this. I got to learn how to say so I can give my take real quick. Yeah. We can, we can do a staff round real quick right now. Um, if that's cool, um, all right. I'm trying to drag everybody down. The notes are updated, bro. I don't have a round for clear or not cleared. So it's just zeros. You know, I'm saying like, I don't have a means to do that. You know, you only have three votes up there. You're not hearing me, bro. The dude's voted that he wouldn't beat crocodile. So it doesn't count as a vote for one. You know, I'm saying, and the dude said that he passes me hog. So it doesn't count, like, it doesn't count the same. So I have to take a note, like Twilight take a note. Basically, why don't you just put one for crocodile? Because he said, he would say he doesn't get, he said he doesn't beat him. But I guess, I guess, I guess you're saying, I, it's a, it's a, it's an error for me. You know, I'm saying I'll do minus one and plus one. There we go. That's how we'll do it. Is that work? Is that better, Larry? You tell me. Not really, Bob. All right. All right. Jiverse. Talk to me, man. You said you got to go. So we'll do the, yeah. Yeah. So, um, I think he definitely beats crocodile, no issue. I think he beats dope. He no issue. I'm a little debated on a Kuma. I think he stops it, bro, though. Law is like the biggest fake notch a lot person in the series. He acts fake. Stoic. He's falling for it. You know, and I think the flavor will still get him anyway, either. But you know, I just like on how fake notch line he is, you see how he reacts like whenever robots pop up or whenever he's talked about Jerma. Yeah. The ninja situation. Yeah. The ninja, the ninja stuff. He tries to exploit. Yeah. He's not got his throat. His throat is. And then for Kuma, though, it's, I think, so I think Kuma has like the strongest, the second strongest hockey on the gauntlet. I think more than, I think more than law. And I think, you know, less than me, Hawk, of course. But yeah, I think Kuma being able to pull out arm and hockey when he has no will left. And it's like half dead fighting against Saturn. I think it's an underrated hockey feet. So I think a sound in mind Kuma would give law a lot of pressure. But other than that, I think, I think law can still pull it out like high, high streamed if. So you're saying he stops at Boa, but you think the players are wrong in the first place. But okay, I would say it's completely wrong. I think it's just, I don't know, Kuma's weird to scale. I'm not going to say that you're wrong for putting him where he is. I probably will put him over no flamingo, though, for sure. You know, I'm Duffy gang. So it hurts to hear that. But I know. Yeah. All right. Traverse. If you got a dip, I appreciate it. Yeah. I'm gone. It's been nice. I love talking to y'all. Maybe I'll be back. We'll see. You have a going. All right. Which one of the mods or staff want to go next, man? Hit it. I know you chopping at the bit. It's up to you. I can save you for last, whatever you want to do, bro. Yeah, save me for last, man. I go quick. Yeah, I got it. I got it in stopping it. Round four. Myself. Keep it short, sweet. All right. Cool. Thank you, Twilight. Shank them. Probably might not have shanked them. Toby. Oh, no. Oh, there we go. Good. I might give him a take. Yeah, yeah. Where do you think all stops on the callip? Or does he clear it? No, he definitely doesn't clear it. I actually do think he stops in mehawk personally. Okay. I also think anybody who says he clears it, that's like the level where it's ridiculous to me. Like I just don't think. Listen, man, there's an avenue for clearing for all the gauntlets that I create. You just have to be creative enough to. I just think this one is putting mehawk glass. I know it's the warlord theme. So like you kind of had to, but like putting mehawk glass, like I just don't see. You're including narrative. If you're including how strong you think mehawk should be, I just don't see any avenue where law beats him. Not even with fair and reasonable speculations, Shank them. And law would have to have had a hockey bloom from losing a fight. Okay. Okay. All right. Toby, appreciate it, Shank. Yo. Give me. Yeah, yeah. Okay. But, uh, yeah, he, he not stopping not today, not stopping. I think it's about butter. So I worry right now saying crocodile beat him. Disgusting. Disgusting. It was killing me. Talk about the shakes, man. I had to roll down. Crocodile, bro, that was crazy, bro. But like, I don't know, but I kind of pretend like crocodile is even on a list. Like he, I didn't consider him even beating law at all. So that was interesting. Kuma. I love Kuma, but he's not being law dopey and boa is where gets a little tough. But I feel like I seen enough from law to beat them. And I'm all the last step. We told you not to put mehawk on here. We told you not to do it, bro, but, but you do what you have to do. Well, I suppose you, you know, I'm not, we're not ducking, bro. I put, you saw the people I have rock, bro, black beer fighting, bro. You saw the people I had on the list for him, bro. You're right. You're right. We're doing what about you? Okay. That's his faith. I'm not cherry picking for your favorite characters, bro. I'm not doing it. Hey, hey, you don't got to because he's still winning anyways. He faced black beer, you know, say his rival kid faced shanks. They face big mom. They don't see enough. They don't face real yanko. You know what me, you know what Larry always says about mehawk? That's a harder path, bro. They don't see that. They don't see that. So we're talking about mehawk. Bro, he's not even in that lane for a reason. That's like the, that's like the g-league. You know what I'm saying? That's like the program during the summer. He's scared of smoke. He's scared to steal. Exactly. That's what I said time is be going to drop 80 points. He was. Mehawk playing the summer league, man. That's how you play. That's crazy. He's the King of the G Lee. Hmm. Exactly, bro. He ain't, he ain't ready to bump heads with your dogs, bro. And for that reason, I got law and, and he got slightly better drips too. I got him being him in a fight and drip wise. Hmm. Thanks. Hmm. I got, I got law extreme death over me hot. Okay. Are you, are you following suit with that hitter? Yeah, I like to just pick you back off with my, uh, my colleague, Toby just said. Okay. I'm gonna break it down point by point. Exactly why law whoops me hot in a one on one fight. Um, first and foremost, law is a most underrated hockey user in the series. Period. Period. I heard somebody earlier say he doesn't use a lot of hockey. He was one is a very short list. One of the few character shown in the series to negate slash negate slash dispel a characters double for ability to share hockey. You go a count on one, one hand, the other characters have done that is high toe, big mom, and shanks and then, you know, that, that's a short list, but it's elites only elites and only dogs. Next, he tanks hybrid kitos, thunderbogler, and basically hundreds of, not hundreds, but dang near a hundred of big mom's punches straight up like he was a pin up no God or nothing. He just straight up tanked him, ate him like it was a box of dominoes pizza. And then while he was taking them, he got off an attack that matched him. Hear me. Hear me. Hear me. Hear me. Well, match the destruction of loophies, Bosrang gun and match the destruction. And you can even argue that it overpowered the, um, loophies Bosrang gun destruction because you can see you can go back to the manga panel. I forget what chapter it was, but you can see his attack created fissures that allow the magma to, to, to, to fall into the, um, the, the, the, the chamber that kind of on big mom and fell into. That was from laws attacks, not, not loophies. Next, Miak got his sword attack, hip toss by josew. When he was trying to do what? Test the difference between himself and old white beard. He got his sword attack, hip toss by josew. He was trying to test the distance from him and white beard. What was law doing? Was he, was, was he went against black beard? He was straight up clashing with the guru. He didn't even know josew to come in between him and, and, and, and just swipe off his attack like, like it was nothing. He's actually clashing with the, with the strongest paramecia for in the verse. If you don't consider that to be lost, it's stated to be strong enough to, to destroy the world. He was clashed with that. And then this is, this is, this is what people don't pay attention to. In Wano on the rooftop, law, only other character who's done this is, is mumble, by the way, law heard Luffy's voice. Go away. He heard Luffy's voice disappear with his observation hockey. Now listen, you, this has got to go two ways. You can either say this is very advanced observation hockey, or you can say he has a voice of all things. Either way, gas, it's gas. It's long gas. It just means he's more him. He lied, Jetman. And on top of all that, if y'all could show me a mehawk durability or endurance feet, he said he'll need a server Larry. And you can show me a mehawk durability feet. I'll leave the server right now. Me riding, yeah. And so then, and listen, this is, this is all the abs of the show. Yeah, listen, listen, this is all, this is all without taking to consideration, like Shayntom said earlier. Everybody knows when you get into tough and difficult fights, you get stronger after that. Law definitely got a hockey bloom on the way. Just like, just like kids about to get one from getting bullied in one person, one shot, one shot like Luffy, like when he went into the one on prison, he's about to get it. He's about to get a pair up too. So listen, law is going to be stronger than even everything I just laid out for y'all. I'm tired of with the politics of me politically and hockey bloom from losing a fight. I mean, I mean, I mean, Ray said, Ray said, you get hockey blooms from being in difficult fights. He's just, he's just saying, winning. I mean, we saw Luffy, did you win, did Luffy win against, did Luffy win against Luffy in a, and he's slubby? No, but he trained. Oh, but wait, but he got a strong guy that did he? Oh, you are ignoring so much. Yeah. Yeah. He had a time skip too, bro. Listen, hey, do you, do you remember how quick dress rolls it to, to, to wanna was, you know how much stronger law got between, between that timeframe? And you know, the time, do you understand, do you understand how, how differently time moves from, from, from people time moves, how, how, how differently time moves from people on L bath compared to characters in the outside world. We don't know for sure. We have, we don't know for sure, but there's a lot of supporting evidence in my, in my, not long time. So, so listen, you, you think it's just, you think it's just been a couple of days, a couple of days, a couple of weeks, nah, it's, it's been a minute. Listen, a lot of stuff is going to happen. Or just using this arc to, to, to, to speed up a lot of stuff, you know, it's like what, two weeks since law loss. Hey, hey, hey man, is it fair and reasonable? Let's check them. It's absolutely fair. Yeah, and shake them just what it be. He just don't order. It's not fair and reasonable to explain why it has been normally for law. Explain why because how do you how else do you explain shanks in all and go barns conversation in that? Oh, it's not on Elbath time is passing normally for him. No, he's saying that over the time that's happening for law in the law in the in the manga that we're seeing off screen basically law is getting stronger off screen because time is passing and he's dealing with whatever he's currently dealing with. I don't know what it is exact like the weeks. Yeah, but hey, hey, man, shake them, shake them, you gotta do the knowledge, shake them, do the knowledge, do the knowledge. The knowledge, man. Okay. Me hawks me hawks in sipping our wine, you know, getting I don't even like me hawking, I think this is ridiculous. Looking at looking at the next fodder to farm. That's all me. That's why we're like you say we're going to go for that one piece. He started sweating bullets. I'm not I'm not another man. I'm not going to do it. That's another fact. Okay. I never seen lost way over stuff like that, bro. Lost sweat. Hold on. Hold on. I lost. I'll be sweating a lot. He's not a jillion. We're not about the same. We're not about the sweat scale. Man, I'm a lot of sweat. I'm a lot of sweater, bro. A lot of sweater, bro. Long is young. Long is the way. No, for long. We have time travel. Yeah. No, bro. I'm here. You're just scaling. I love it. All right. We'll close y'all around there and I'll get another grouping here. But before we do, I have another couple of super chats to read. So two from J. DeRude. It says, Kuma too durable. Not to be at least round four. Kuma's tricky, man. Kuma's tricky. The people above him are conquerors, early seemingly with mehawk, advanced hockey users, awakened users, with hacks. Kuma has hacks. He seems to have hockey. His durability is pretty elite. He's a tricky fighter. I just, for me, it was tough, right? Because the situation is that we saw Kuma in. He wasn't boxing with top tiers and the one time we did see him actually box a top tier. It was the same kind of situation where anybody could have landed on Saturn and then Saturn. Was going to regenerate anyway. So it was kind of tough to really scale Kuma, man. I'm not going to lie to y'all. We've never seen him go all out in a fight for real. The one time he did it was against father with the, the kingdom that he used to be a part of the sorbet kingdom or whatever it was. So it's like, I don't know. I kind of try to weigh it as to how, how, how hard do I think Luffy coming out of the time skip would have had to deal with Kuma? How hard it would have been to do that. And I don't know, in my mind, I feel like He would have had an easier time dealing with Kuma than he would have with Dofomingo or Boa. So that's kind of where I went with it. So if I'm wrong, I'm wrong. I feel like Kuma's time to showcase greatness kind of already passed to. And like, was it enough for me to scale him higher? Not for me. Obviously some other people thought differently. But yeah, now that's five from TK210. TK, who's more important to the straw hats? Chopper or Nami for points or for Luffy's goal. Points is like, they're doing more for the crew like Sajji can fight/cook. I'm going to go Nami because in the way that they talk about the one piece world in general, it's so insane to navigate. And Luffy's such an idiot. There will be no hope. Luffy could technically find another doctor, right? I don't know that he can find a navigator that can navigate the new world, can navigate the grandline to the degree that Nami is capable of doing. And like, just in general, they'd be cooked, man. They'd be absolutely cooked without Nami kind of staring at the ship where it needs to go. Chopper, as far as dual points, if he was a bigger fighting threat or at least showcase the ability to fight as much as he should, I would probably give him more points there, but I feel like him and Nami kind of even out there. And if anything, Nami gets more shine in her fighting situations than Chopper does. Like, Nami got a one-on-one on Wano. Chopper didn't. Granted, if you want to go to the points thing, Chopper was one who saved people with the only virus. So I feel like they're relatively even there, but in general, I am gonna go Nami as far as more important than Chopper. Larry, if you have something for that, let me know or not. I feel like Larry's talking 'cause he went off mute, but I can't hear him. So I'll move on. Another 20 from Shadows. It says, "Los best move, puncture willy needs to sacrifice top speed teleport for basic move." Oh, Larry? - Yeah. - All right, give me a second. I'm gonna read this, read through this. - Yeah, basically move, okay, yeah. "Los best move, the puncture willy need to sacrifice top speed slash teleportation for basic move. Speed cause room is on sword, not area. Consistently need kid to distract Big Mom to run and hit her. Fast attack slash speed characters will tough versus law." I can agree that to some of that law does kind of put on us on like I'm making this one thing work while not necessarily making all the things work at once with the way he fights. But I don't know, the fact that he can teleport still like, it's a bonus to me. I can't look at that as a negative. I'm sorry, Brad. Okay. But Larry, you off muted. I don't know if you had more, had something to say for that first one. - I think they're equally important. I can't put one in front of the other. - Okay. - But if you had to though? - I probably want chopper over a nami. - Okay. - Okay, not bad though. - Number five, from TK. Law took a hit from Kido and was conscious. That's something Luffy couldn't do even after going into gear four. As soon as he got to Wano and he didn't train. Aima, law gas today. - People got to also realize law got hit after Zoro took the brunt of the hit. He was hit second after that. It wasn't like Kido just hybrid formed thunderbog one just straight up hit law with the first hit. It's like that's clearly Kido's attack got halved. You ever tried punching your sister and then trying to hit your brother through it? It's not gonna work. - What? - No, I never tried that. - I don't see you. - I never tried that. - Punchy, just to go. - No. - I don't know what that was. I don't know what that was about, bro. I hope you're not doing that, bro. I hope you're not moving like that. But let's get the next group in here. That was wild. - Yeah, it's a wild, what's that, bro? - All right, okay, who has it gone? Who's been here a while? Let's get broccoli in here. It's higher than dawn, too. Monkey D many. Loose leg. - Oh. - Either Keon. Hold on, is that five? - One, two, three, four, five. Is that six? Hold on, one, two, three, four, five, five. All right, how's it going, y'all? Welcome, welcome to the T-O-P-T DDT. Today is our warlord gauntlet with law being the runner. He will have full recovery after each round. But round one is crocodile, round two is kuma, round three is dofromingo, round four is boa, round five is mihawk. Does he clear or where does he stop? That's what you guys will have one minute each to discuss where you think that they'll land. And then you'll have a full minute to deliberate among, a full five minutes to deliberate amongst yourselves to determine anybody who's changing their votes or not. So just for it to add it aside, the kuma we're going with is the kuma who is of sound mind. So it's not just robot kuma per se. It is going to be kuma surka sabote archbolago. So pass a piece of enhancements, but he has his mind and his wherewithal. So we'll start with creative broccoli. Talk to me. One minute. Yo, I'll try and keep it short. Basically, I'm a notorious law hater, but I'm not going to lie, I was going through his wiki as I was waiting to be pulled in here, and he actually got some feats. Even in punk hazard, we were seeing him cut through mountains. I know it's like, you can't really scale him like that. But basically, I got him, I got him beating boa and mehog. So he stops at round five. Yeah, my opinion. Appreciate to take creative. We will go to creator, key on you there. And everybody mute up when you're not talking. Please, and thank you. You hear me? Yeah. All right, so it really sucks for me to say this. I have to say law somehow gets to round five, and then he dead stops. Because I have to assume law has been somehow working on his hockey level to get up to very high, to be greater than even though from Mingo at this point. And even though Boahankook should have all three hockeys at decent level, because she lacking feats, I can't put her that high. And law has been showing out more. So I got her over her, but if mehog, it's stated to be equal to shanks. Yeah, yeah, he law can get up to mehog, but then he gets to lose that he loses. OK, so it stops at round five. All right, appreciate to take key on. Next, we will go to Tyler Don. Tyler, talk to me. What's up? How's it going, man? It's doing pretty good. I want to say that law stops at Boah. But I don't think he'd be affected by her stone, because I don't think he has any feelings for her. But I think it would be literally hacks on hacks. They both have crazy hacks. But I just assume that Boah has stronger hockey. And I think it would be an extreme defy either way if he does win or lose. But I think he stops at Boah. OK, stops at Boah. So stops at round four. Thank you, thank you. Loose dog. Where do you think law stops? Or does he clear? What's up? I'm thinking law stops at Boah. OK. I think law has arguably-- I think he just does have the most versatile devil fruit in the series. Any arguably just has one of the best devil fruits. I think it's just in every way better than Kuma's in terms of teleporting in what he can do with it. And because it's so hacks, I do think he edges out on Doflamingo, even though Doflamingo does have conquerors hockey. And in a way, he can devil fruit. So on paper, you would assume. But laws law, I think he just kind of edges out. And I think he just loses to Boah, because Boah's devil fruit is just to have much more hacks in this fight. And I do think law would get turned to stone, because he got eyeballs. And so he would just, you know, not work out for him. And yeah, that's about where I'm at. OK. All right. Appreciate the take. And then, Monkey D. Mani. Yo. Yeah, Herbie? Yes, sir. OK, yeah. [BLANK_AUDIO] you're all tripping thinking law is clearing this board because she's not getting past. She's not getting past Duffy. I mean, we're seeing law versus Duffy before. And we're seeing Luffy versus Duffy. So it's kind of saying law is going to beat Racer Luffy because we saw that Luffy struggled against Duffy. And we know law came with deal with Blackburn who one other shore has conquerors hockey and not. And everyone after Duffy has conquerors hockey. And to the people who are saying he clears the board, I feel like we forget that board is a culture pirate because I've seen Luffy duck smoke from the culture firing. So I don't think, I don't think law is dealing with the queen of the culture pirates, especially with our hacks, Devil Fruit. Yeah, he's definitely stopping and don't for me go. He gets past. He gets past Cuma just because he's never further a little bit more clutch than Cuma. But I still feel like that's going to be high here or extreme death for him to get through Cuma. So yeah, he's definitely stopping Duffy. Okay, I appreciate the take monkey. All right, you guys will not have five minutes to rebut, discuss, and deliberate amongst you guys yourselves. Go ahead, anybody can start. I just have a quick question to start. So like I said, I'm a law hater, but do you all think current law is weaker than Dress Rosa Luffy? No, I think personally, what we've been seeing on Wano, I just I can't I can't get there for me personally. Yeah, because he'd even do nothing or like all he did was move kid around wildfire and big mouth. Like who didn't? I don't have it. I was saying he was he was doing more than Dress Rosa Luffy was doing on Wano. He was doing what he did with Duffy when he teamed up with Luffy for that short period. That's pretty much what he was doing on Wano. He was standing on business and he has a big mouth. No, I try. I give him a little bit of credit, but you know, I don't really think he's all that. I'm not going to lie. I put him just slightly above kid. I mean, yeah, I think I'm going to, I'll chime in. I think law right now is stronger than Luffy on Dress Rosa, because like Luffy's timing out in gear four. He didn't learn snake man yet. He's like now like I and so it's like law with gamma knife. I just think it's so crazy. I just think gamma knife super underrated. Yeah, law has been here. So it's like I think it's so sorry. I just think right now with the upgraded gamma knife and like we saw what it did to Duffy and like yes, Duffy did like regenerate his internal organs, but like we can law can keep doing it now. Now he can like he do it once. He could do it again and again and again. And so it's like I have to assume law beats out his villain, but that's why I just don't think he beats Bella, but I do definitely think he beats Duffy. Right. Well, my biggest thing on there is I don't think law has been any conqueror pocket user. And we know for sure, dude, we might not be sure about mehawk because that's the only one that we don't have confirmation about, but we know Duffy and both have congress hockey. And we know the one thing that came like negate like law's devil fruit is conqueror's hockey. So I don't think I guess past multiple. I feel like law law has basic enough hockey fences to to to to get around to like keep up with the conqueror's hockey users where his powers are still affecting them. That's also he can spam his teleport. He can spam his teleporting ability. What was that again? Black bear do you have conqueror's hockey? I mean, it was Blackbird and his whole crew as well though. Law was getting jumped. I mean, it was both of their crews. I wouldn't I wouldn't say jump, but yeah, I think if it was just a one v one law versus Blackbird, I think it'd be a lot closer. I still have him losing now. Law is through it. Law is doing it. There's nothing except but depot. I miss click. I mean, facts, but you see how far law is getting. Maybe that's all you had to you dropped for a second after you gave your take. It's law. Yeah, miss click. I think they're right now the debating whether law could be Dressrosa Luffy. But you gave your take though, right? Where are you thinking? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I said he stops at Boa. Okay. Sorry. What do you think about that? I don't I don't I think he beats Dressrosa Luffy. I think it'd be like high diff. I don't think it'd be extreme. I think it'd be a tough fight, but yeah. I think he beats him for sure. So that's why I give it to him over over Dofi. And I think Boa is it easier fight than Dofi. I can't say that. I can't say that. Boa has more hacks and she's physically stronger than law. For kids of kujo fire. She has no face. Bro, it's like saying the dynas have no face. I mean, it's like you could say mehawk has no face, but it's like there's a narrative implication. And also, it's just the devil fruit is so hacked. Like he just gets turned to stone and even if he breaks out, it's like she could just do it again. And so I don't I can't see him. All she has to do is catch him. Like catch him. He's no breaking out. Yeah. Turn the stone for us. Like I don't think that's going down. I think he's got it. I think I don't think it's crazy for him to break out, but I just think he's got the hot. It's like his leg gets turned to stone. Can he just like shambles it and it stops. But I mean, even that split second, I think Boa's petio. That is that is time. Did anybody want to change their vote? I know we have a few stops at mehawk, two stops at Boa and one stops at Dofi. Anybody changing their vote? I'll say he does not beat Boa anymore. Okay, so you think he stops at the top? No. Okay, I will switch my answer from mehawk back to Boa. Okay. Like he stops at Boa, I believe. Anybody else changing? Nope. No, he stops at Dofi. I think he stops at Boa still. Okay. I appreciate the takes, gentlemen. I hope you all have a good night and like the stream, everybody, if you haven't already. If you want to participate and be one of these participators and give your take on matchups like these, become a Nakama or a higher tier member on the discord. Like most of them have or you could get yourself donated in like some others have. So thank you guys again. I'll see y'all probably in a couple of weeks because the next play next Wednesday for the first time in a long time. So I'm going to have a lemonade. At least I ain't play us. It would have been bad, bro. No, I think we would have had a better opportunity against you than Cavaliers, dude. Not the way we play. I think it's the way we play. No, you know, lying the way the way we play in this terrible way. We're playing like college kids, dude. Yeah, I got to get during right, man. No, he does. But all right, have a good night. Appreciate it. All right. These people out of here. Yes, you don't, you don't have to do the DGT, bro. Right. Okay, it's finals game one, man. It's finals game one, right? You got to be there for the whole thing. Oh, bro, I can't, I can't risk it. All right, we did get a couple more super chats in here while we were having the deliberation rounds. I'll read those. We got two from TK TTA. It says law is teleporting with raindrops. His observation is tough. Yeah, man. Raindrop teleportation is crazy. Another two from Jeterude clears if he uses his fruit, right? But he don't with the laughing emoji. Okay. How else could he be using it, man? Yeah, but he'd about be creative. I think Lawrence was one of the first people to champion. The law isn't using his fruit well enough. And then we had a caller say it before too, Larry, if I remember correctly. Oh, people people think that law is under utilizing the opi, opi, no, me. Another two from Davy. Who y'all got a roachy versus buggy and what diff and why? Um, I'm going buggy. I'm going to go high diff. That's two of the biggest punks in the series. So they both lose to me. But buggy be fine. At least he'll agree with that. Let me swing in. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. A muggy ball. A roachy going to be like, oh, no. Like you have said, he'd be like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Generally, generally, if you're like to a muggy ball in on itself, we'll be able to like individually take a head. He just throws those up. - Hmm. - Yeah, man. - So, take. - What's the heart of the ratio, man? - All right, and then we did have another Nakama join the ship in Jimmy, New Jones. So thank you, welcome and enjoy all the emojis that come with being a Nakama. All right, who have we gotten in here yet? Basically, these top five here. So this will probably be the last round. So let's get Tommy Guns. Why is it doing that? Tommy Guns, Eagles for life, Fallen Shinobi, Griff. - Like, that's all I'm saying. He can put in some work there. - Fallen, mute up, man. - Sorry. - You're good. All right, all right, all right, all right, all right. We got a full house. This will probably be the last round. They do have to run soon, Ish. But all right, gentlemen, ladies, gentlemen, non binaries, whatever, whatever y'all call yourselves. We are doing the Warlord Gauntlet with Law. He is facing round one, Crocodile, round two, Kuma, round three, Dofl Mingo, round four, Boah, Hancock, and round five, Mehawk. Where does he stop or does he clear the gauntlet? All right, y'all each have one minute to let me know where you think Law stops or if he clears this gauntlet. And then you'll all get a deliberation round where you guys can rebut things that you heard, potentially change each other's votes, et cetera, et cetera. So, I'll start at the top of the list here with Tommy. Talk to me, bro. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, what's up? - How far, what's going on, man? How far does Law get on the Warlord Gauntlet? - I think he beats Dofi Extreme Diff and he stops at Boah, I think. He's gonna turn the stone, you know what I'm saying? - Mm-hmm. Now is it-- - Yeah. - It's specifically the stone matchup or is it like a hockey difference? Like you think it's just, it's the stone. - Or a hockey's overpowering them, you know? The stone, he just, she got too many hacks on him. - Okay, all right, sounds good to me. Next. - All right, so that'd be good. - Fallen. - Yeah, see this. - Talk to me, bro. - Okay, I'll talk another guy. And I'm a little bit torn here between Dofi and Boah. I mean, just because it took Law and Luffy to take out Dofi and Dofi was kind of stuck down so we didn't really get to see his maneuverability and just speedfeats within the height for the most, I mean, the majority. But I can understand he awakened, Law awakened his double through, I'll give him that. But when it comes to Boah, I just think she has the hockey. And bro, this is one tough chick. And I think he would get turned to stone if the immediate turn stone won't work. She can hit him with some stone arrows. Even if people say, you know, we've got that whole thing with Bipo going on, he might not be affected. Well, I still think Bill got it. - Okay, all right, so stops at Boah, right? - Yes, okay. So that's two for stopping at Boah. Next, we will go to Griff, Griff, talk to me. - Thank you for assuming no statements only feeds Mehawk. He might beat Mehawk, but non-trolling, he beats Boah. Because Boah got grabbed up by Blackbeard and forgot she knew how to use hockey. And we haven't even seen her use really conquerors at all in the story. So we can't be just given her this ability to infuse hockey in her double fruit, which means that even if Law gets turned to stone, he could probably just hockey out of it 'cause he did it to Doc Houston. We've seen him do that. We haven't seen her infuse hockey into her double fruit. So I think he beats Boah. And he definitely beats Duffy because he almost killed up Duffy when he was pre-awakened and pre-hockey upgrades. Like he got better hockey in Wano and he got an awakening so we can assume he beats Duffy too. So like a non-trolling take, he beats Boah, but there's arguments for Mehawk. - Okay, so you're saying stops at round five, got it? - Yeah. - All right, Grim, Grimalls, talk to me. - Question will quick, just talk. Do we think Luffy and Hockake is stronger than the current Law? It's a pre-awakened deliberate, man, which what you thinking? - Ah, 'cause I'm like, why do people actually like Law cannot defeat Duffy Mingo? - I'm just so confused, but it might take his, he stops at round five because nobody's not showing us any hockey feeds. So I don't know why everybody's talking about hockey from Boah, but Law was showing us some hockey feeds. He showed us he can fight. - Even if he can't really beat a Yonko, he can at least box a little bit. Nobody else is showing us they can do any of that. So I just say he, Mehawk beats his ass, but he stops at me, Yonko. - Okay, all right, appreciate the take, Grim. We'll move on to Heavenly Chaos. Wait, can you, okay. So in my opinion, it's either between Boah and Duffy. The reason why I say Duffy is because of the way Law fights and the fact that Duffy Mingo has prior knowledge to the Law's abilities and how he actually uses his IQ in battle. 'Cause Duffy Mingo can fly up his bird cage, can't even be stopped by an admiral. So I'm not sure how Law's gonna like, I mean, I guess he can shambles, but like, it's still the bird cage. We can't discount that. But like, you know, he has string pistols, but like get more like annoyances that Law has to avoid. You can't like take damage. 'Cause Law's fruit is actually, it isn't healing. It's letting the body, it's putting the body together. But, and the reason why I say he might lose to Boah is because Boah, so we know that Junko, well, Junko Blackbeard, are avoiding to getting stoned. And if he somehow scarred Shanks, there's no way his hockey isn't at least like, I don't, you know, it isn't sub part hockey. So yeah, and maybe he has lost for her, but like, that's something we'll have to discuss about. Boah, yeah, she also has like ranged attacks too. So she doesn't have to be sitting in his room. And yeah, she's good up close up and from off, but I want to lean to say that he loses to Dofi. - Okay, loses to Dofi. All right, thank you. And then Eagles talk to me, bro, been a minute. - Yeah, man, you hear me? - Yes, sir. - Yo, this is law discourse today, I've been discussing. (laughs) - What's wrong with you? - Wait, that was wrong, Nick. - Oh, yeah, I don't, yo, listen. - I could have seen Larry's face for that. - That was nasty work, bro. That was nasty. - Anyway, I got, I got law stopping at Boah. She has all three hockey's. And her dovefruit is extremely broken. And somebody had said, well, what of hockey, what of law hockey blooms? What have Boah hockey blooms earned in battle? We know when conquerors hockey bloom is something we've never seen before. Law has never taken an advanced conquerors attack before. So when that happens, what's law gonna do? So I don't see, I don't really see a avenue where law can beat Boah, me honest with you. That's all I gotta say. - Okay. All right, we got one for stopping at Dovey. Three for stopping at Boah and two for stopping at round five. Mihawk, no votes for clearing. All right. Y'all have five minutes to deliberate amongst y'all cells and see if you could change anybody's vote. Go ahead. - Whoever thinks that they could beat Boah. Boah's hockey feet, conquerors hockey feet so they're the same as kids. So if you have law over kid, why do you have law not beating Boah? Like he kid hasn't used conqueror hockey. Neither has Boah. Why are we giving Boah these conquerors abilities? - Hold on. - Wait. - She's a cool kid. - Wait. - Wait. - She got the conqueror. - Hold on. - Hold on. - Hold on. - She is, she is a go, go, go. - No, no, no, no. - No, no, no. You did. - So you're telling me, somebody who was stated to have conquerors versus the guy who didn't even know he had conquerors is the same thing. That's not the same thing. - Yes. - He's the same thing. - And somebody said that she asked conquerors. That means she had to have used conquerors at some point in her life. - Yeah. - Okay. - He has conquerors. - With him to see that? - They stated that Luffy had conquerors in Marineford and he was just like unconcerned. - He was like a Marineford. - He didn't know. - Okay, wait, wait, wait. - I don't think he had that. - Luffy had to slam Harold one time for Harold to know that he had conquerors. So other people know that Boah has conquerors. - Yeah, and you can't-- - No, no, no, no. Okay, even if y'all don't think about conquerors, her armament hockey has to be well above laws. Just because think about what island she's on. Everybody on that island knows armament hockey. So you're telling me that the queen of the island, somebody that is a warlord, yeah, maybe just be titled to protect the island, But she. He does, like he said, does have conquerors hockey. I don't know about observation, just because I can't remember an observation feat for her. But do you think she is more durable than Big Mom? Dude, I hate this. I hate is somebody more durable than Big Mom. That's literally like saying, oh, they more durable than Kaido. Big mom is a beast when it comes to durability. You can't compare people's durability to Big Mom's durability. That's not fair to whoever you're comparing them to. They're never going to live up to Big Mom. You're not getting like Big Mom is the two. You think Boa is the easier target than Big Mom? Big Mom have so much area to hit. She's not fast. Exactly. Boa's going to go on there. And all it's going to take, like I forgot who said it. Just one thought about how Boa looks. And the fight is done. And even if he can hockey, I use her best hockey in a fight. So we're not going to use Big Mom. But even if even if even if law can hockey out of being turned to stone, it's still going to be, he's still going to need time to do that, which is going to give time for Boa to catch up. As soon as he hockey, as soon as he hockey's out, he's going to get an armament punched to the face. Well, he could tell if he was trying to get this hockey. I agree with that one. But my problem is people are just talking about how he cannot beat Dofo Mingo. That one, I don't understand though. Oh, that one is going to go on there. I always think, hey, man, you can go back. Makes no sense to me. I was the main just because it took Luffy and Law to beat Dofo. Law to lock him down and Luffy to go ahead and put in it. If Dofo wasn't locked down, I'm going to say right now it's the current law. The current law is going to, it's going to have fire. But y'all forgot, y'all are taking out the current Dofo Mingo. Like he got an awakening too, even with all of his organ damage. You still, when you saw the fight that he put up against Luffy. And if he doesn't have an organ damage, he's faster. He's able to use his ability well easier if he gets cut in half. He can use his strings to pull itself back together to manipulate his body. Like he has the hacks to deal with somebody like law. I don't think you have stronger. Exactly. That's why I said that he beats Dofo Mingo but loses to Boa, because he was in a fight with Dofo Mingo. He got that dub against Dofo Mingo, whether it's with Luffy or not. He got that dub. But against like Boa, Boa's no pushovers. She's the strongest woman other than Big Mom, but Big Mom is Big Mom, like I said. We haven't seen Boa do anything. Was she got a chance to fight one of the hot tears and got grabbed? He'll take the dub. Dofo Mingo has 3D aerial maneuver movement. He can go anywhere he wants in the sky. He doesn't need to be in the sky. He has a better hockey than Boa and he can actually use conquers. I don't see a way law can actually catch Dofo in a meaningful way like other than like grazes and clashes and stuff like that. He showed us. He can. Yeah. That. That is time. All right. I'll go down the list again to see if anybody's changing their vote. All right. Tommy. Are you changing your vote? No. I'm not changing. Okay. Eagles. Nobra. I'm good. Okay. Chaos. Chaos. No. I'm not changing. Okay. Grim. I want to change it to Boa. Play. What was your original vote? I thought he can do. I was on me. I thought he can like hockey his way out, but I realized it takes time for him to do all that. Okay. She's too fast for him just to be doing all that. Okay. Grif. Thank you. No, he still makes it in the heart. Okay. And falling. Now he stops it. The baby. Boa. Okay. All right. Appreciate the take, gentlemen. I hope you all have a good night. Like I said before guys like the stream. If you want to participate in these types of debates, please become a Nakama or higher on the discord. I'm going to drop you all into the if you're just going to jump into the DDT entrance or the entrance to the den chat. So I can drag the next group up and close out. Thank you. Thank you. All right. To the next. Yes, sir. That's. Save man. We do nine and nine championship, but Nick's win this time. Yes, sir. A lot of. A lot of support, man. A lot of support. All right. Let me get these last three. And then me and Larry will also give our takes. All right. Hello, Reaper, liquid and Nika, the joy boy. You guys will be our last three. And then you'll me and Larry will give our takes on this one. I hope you guys are having a good night. But law is running the warlord gauntlet. Round one is crocodile. Round two is Kuma. So he is of sound mind. Round three is dofumingo. Round four is bohankok. And round five is my hook. You'll each have one minute to let me know how far you think log gets on this gauntlet. Or if he clears it. And then we'll have a round to deliberate amongst ourselves. So. I will start with Reaper because he's off mute already. Reaper talked to me, man. I really feel like. I don't think that he has a chance against. I really feel like. Boa should have been switched with. Dofumingo, but she is a better like builder of conquerors. I would say so. I mean, maybe it's fair. I don't think that he, he would be dofee. But he might have a chance against. But what if he had got that far? Okay, okay. So you said dofee should have been higher than Boa. So you're saying he stops at dofee or he stops at Kuma. He stops at dofee. Okay. He does. He does. I think that his devil fruit would be it. They come out, displaces some pain or some type of energy that he's trying to force into law. If it's in the room, it can also be displaced somewhere else. That's not law. So I don't think that Kuma would actually stand a chance. Hmm. Okay. Now, appreciate take. Reaper. We will move on. There is a short game. Oh, wow. Okay. I don't think I've seen anything or think of any way that lock and beat him because of what happened. Yeah, that's pretty much it. I was going to make it short. Okay. Appreciate the take, man. Next liquid beans. Talk to me, man. How far does it make it? I've got a very unpopular opinion. He stops at crock. Extreme diff. Hmm. Okay. I think the most underrated line in all of one piece is what crocodile himself said, which is. Well, I actually forgot the exact words of it, but it was essentially the gist of it. Like you never know how abilities are going to interact with each other. And I think that the sand specifically, like I understand that law does stuff like switch out with water drops and will not sand as a completely different beast in itself. Of the maneuverability and the the lethality that crocodile can produce. I also think people are downplaying the fact that he's probably stronger now. The fact that he is not paralleled to mehawk, but that he's part of that crossgilled. I think there's narrative weight there. I love narrative. And also people who think he clears mehawk, you are dumb. And I hate you. That's it on that. All right. I appreciate the take, man. Larry. You up, man. Where does law go? Where does he stop? He definitely stops. I think whatever hit it was saying was basically a line was speaking about Odin. Man, I've been thinking about this because I feel like it's such a good matchup, you know. We saw a law fight a logier user before. And we know that he can affect logier users by taking their hearts. But I'm going to tell you straight up. Crocodile did get that post-timeskip buff, right? And also he does have history with white beard. And then he also has shown a little bit of fighting prowess against doflamingo during marine forward war. So if he just got like a bump, he's definitely going to have stronger hockey than I would say Virgo or even smoker. All right. That's just my head, Ken. Well, most of all, I will say that. Crocodile kind of like his ability is dangerous dog like I'm thinking about like how is law going to teleport around if the sand is just taken by dofl Mingo So I don't I'm gonna give it to law to pass crocodile for the time being But I can't say he passes Cuoma, bro. I'm gonna be honest. Cuoma's probably the worst match up for law We all talking about his his his Delphurabilities yo if he does room can Cuoma just like push the room away? Like if he really wanted to okay, he just be like all right. Yo, your room is gone Like your room went somewhere else if he hits law sword. I think Cuoma has better hockey than law Can he just like push law sword to like comma-baka island? Like can law fight without the sword if that happens I Understand what law can do, but then I also understand that Cuoma could also just push he could just recover He could push all the pain out of his body. So if he gets shocked will lead yo, I'm gonna just give it back to you because honestly I think Cuoma's faster than him As for everybody else their hockey levels are gonna just be too much for him to have anything result in a win and I see a lot of boa downgrade that I mean if you're comparing Dolphu Mingles hockey to boa handcocks hockey Let me just put it this way Dolphu Mingle was able to burst out his hockey the same way Luffy could right that just shows that there's some utilization of Conqueror's hockey being done that was said to be done by boa from her sisters All right, she was fast enough to outspeed the observation hockey of Kobe and to the point where black beard felt He couldn't lift his hand off of her or he'd be turned to stone You're talking about Dolphu Mingle who's clearly one of the most lustful human beings on the planet Who delights and gluttony and greed and you're saying he's not gonna be turned into stone? That's absolutely back crazy. So Her power is one of the main powers that black beard wanted That should tell you enough when you talk about narration. So I do believe Law is completely capable of being turned into stone and you're not gonna tell me just because he broke out of doc cues Ability which doesn't go harder than don't a boy handcocks ability. He's gonna be able to break out of because essentially you're saying He has the same hockey levels as Momanga Or a little bit better than momanga and even momanga barely with stood her her petrification You know what I'm saying I He ain't being Dolphi. I mean he ain't being boa and he damn sure ain't being me hawk. So I say he loses the Kuma Okay, I appreciate the take Larry. All right. Um, I guess it's my turn to give my take As you know, I try to come up with a way for every one of my runners to clear the gauntlet. This one was a little tricky. So Law's avenue for clearing this gauntlet is making it to Kuma and Then somehow some way figuring out a way to operate on the man's mechanical brain and Making him join his side so that it will be a 2v1 for dofumingo and then a 2v1 versus boa And then a 2v1 versus me hawk. That's how he would clear the gauntlet hit it. That's how you gotta be creative As far as how far he would go dolo I do think he beats crocodile. I think we saw law fight a loggy in smoker. I don't think the fight's the same I love the that somebody brought it up How Delphi's interact? I think it was it you Larry. I don't know who was but how Delphi's interact themselves is I might be on liquid beans By do love that that notion and law need a dolphin make neither law or a crocodile like extreme hockey user So it will be a heavily devil fruit based fight Um in that light. It's interesting. I do think law would pull it out He has more hacks on his side than crocodile does although hers somebody to say that crocodile would lose In the fight with Kuma as another one Delphi reliant people Kuma Loki is tricky. I think I mentioned earlier. He's tricky to scale. He's tricky to fight against Can he just teleport law away? Can he teleport the sword away? Can he remove damage away from himself that law inflicts on him? Can he push that damage onto law can law remove that damage from himself with his room ability? I don't know. I was really tossing and turning about how the fight would actually go um in my mind I give law the edge just because I seen more hacks for him Um, and then versus Dofi. I'm the Dofi guy. I'm probably the biggest Dofi Glaser in the in the series It's on the panel on the pod itself I think people discredit Dofi Mingo because of the circumstances of my witchy lost to Luffy Again, he had taken damage from law. He had taken damage from the fight with Luffy. Luffy had help If you take all that away, I don't think Luffy stands a chance against Dofi Mingo for longer than the time he would need because his devil fruit would gas him out Um There was some discourse about whether law could defeat Dress Rosa Luffy Um, I don't like to scale exactly in that way. I do think the matchups matter and the matchups between law and Dofi Mingo is an interesting one Um, obviously there was a comment earlier that was stated about them knowing each other's abilities Um, but law didn't know Dofi Mingo could stitch up his organs. Law didn't seem to know About well, he knew about birdcage. I don't think birdcage would be an effective fight or utilization in a fight with law Law can teleport law can get her outside the birdcage seemingly He chose not to because that wasn't what he needed to do to win Um, and he survived the gamut knife which is law was was laws biggest um Attack ability to start But he's awakened since then he's gotten stronger since then could could Dofi Mingo survive a puncture willy I don't know black beard seemingly tanked or at least took it pretty well um Would Dofi Mingo do that? I don't know no organ damage. I don't know. It's it's tough to know. I'd say probably not law got a landed Will he land it? Interesting to see what would happen between law and uh Like barricite Rebirth turn your camera. What are you doing bro? You're distracting Um, and then I don't know. I was really tossing turn about that fight, but what do you win it? I'm gonna go. Yes. I'm gonna give a lot of the dub versus Dofi Mingo. I don't want it to I don't want to I really don't but I'm gonna give him I'm gonna give him the dub over Dofi Mingo because I do scale the narrative And if law is supposed to be a relevant fighter going forward He should be being Dofi Mingo, right? All right um Then we get the bowler I Wanted to put bow a lower Honestly, I wanted the bow to be round two and I got massive pushback from people I'm not a big bowler guy. I'm not I don't think she's as strong as people make her out to be Maybe that's just me not scaling with the narrative with her as well. Um, Larry will call me sexist for that I think Yamato stronger than then then bow is I do think she has hacks But and I do think the hacks would work on law, but I also am like Laws hacks will work on her like well She can be moved she can be um teleported the the the the the personality switching because that very well happened I don't know like I I don't know enough about Boa's abilities from what I saw from her to tell me that she's this top top tier fighter She's strong. I don't think she's stronger than Dofi personally. So if I had Dofi over her in my mind I got law passed Dofi. I'm gonna have to give him that so yeah, I think he stops in me hawk um The fight versus me hawk would be interesting Not super interesting. I think overall the way I scale me hawk. I do scale him close to shanks and I don't have law near there So he does get body. He would need some sort of insane growth or power up that hitter was talking about that he might get over these two or three weeks or whatever it's possibly been Um, but I do have me hawk winning that fight mid diff max Um, yeah, I'm gonna mid diff max. I'm not gonna go high diff Uh, so yeah, I'll go stops at me hawk All right, um, I will open it up for rebuttals and things um we have five minutes. So talk to me y'all I just don't see how he gets past rock. I gotta be it like like I said before it's the styles make matchups type of thing that crocodile was talking about I really just do believe that It would just be too much of a nuisance for law to really make the best use of his abilities into a logia user that can So effectively chain like it the size of The constructions that crocodile was making during like the marine Ford war arc and stuff and the feats that he had during that I think just like they're they're really underrated in my opinion and it's Devil threw itself is seriously underrated because it just so happened that he was in alabaster during pre-time skip And I feel like if it was if we're like trying to scale with the narrative now where he's in crawl skilled He's supposed to be really strong Okay Especially with the bounty he was recently given which which is the fact that it's even as high as it is should speak to like where Otis trying to put him now. At least in my opinion. - But if you're gonna bounty scale, Law's bounty was $3 billion. - That's very true too. I mean, that's the problem. He's with the bounty scaling right. - If we're gonna, if we're gonna bounty scale, Law had a higher bounty, man. Like, I think a lot of that goes into what Crocodile is about. He's about like getting ancient weapons and like he's actively putting hits out on Marines and bounties, like that goes into the bounty that he gets. Like, yes, he's this next to Mehawk and Bucky person, right? But like Bucky's weak. Mehawk's the strong one. I think Crocodile's strong. I just don't think he's like, I don't think he should be considered near Mehawk or anything like that. He can fight guys, he can bang out with like, probably Yakko commanders right now. - But if you were to break it down, what would be Law's win condition? Like, well, how would he be able to affect Crocodile? - He had to trap Smoker's heart. I don't know if he needs to do exactly that, but that's all win condition for him. But it's open. Yeah, speak, I wanna say. I know it's only a couple of us here. Nika, revert. - I'll go fill it. Law versus Boa would be a different fight than Dofu Ningo versus Boa Larry. I don't think that's fair to say that. Just because Dofu Ningo is like a lustful person. Like, you would enter you literally insinuating, I mean, not insinuating emphasize how lustful Dofu Ningo was. That's not a characteristic of law. Now, the granted doesn't have to be for her power to work, but like, that's a big part of this character that you're just like, oh well, if it works, it gets in there, it'll work against law. That's completely different. But I feel you. Dofu Ningo could be above Boa, particularly because of how their fight went and how overpowered, how much Dofu Ningo overpowered law, rather than Boa Hancock's relying on her Delphi to try, maybe change law into stone. But then again, she's a conqueror. She had that hockey level that is supposed to be out there. Nice black beer, people, the top tier is scary of her. She's the Pirate Empress for a reason. It's not just as she's a Amazon. There's a lot to her strength that I'll give to her that's why I said it's fair. But I do feel like it's, it wouldn't be crazy to put Boa underneath, so like Dofu Ningo, because just for this kind of gauntlet, it's either way. - Well, also, what's with like the conqueror's handling? - It's, I don't know where the community has gone wrong with like the, like I don't, I can't say confidently that either of them have like the overwhelming better conquerors than the other one just based off of the feats that I've seen. If you want to scale with narrative, it's definitely Boa. But at that point, it's just, that's just narrative. From what we've seen, Dofu Ningo is an extremely good conqueror's user, and I'm pretty sure he was infusing it into his last attack against Luffy, so I just, I just don't know. I don't know how you scale conquerors. - Well, that is time. - It would be how they do again. - No, get your last word in. - I was skill conquerors and conqueror ability, how they perform against other conquerors. Boa, like there was, we don't know a black bearer of the conqueror, but there were plenty of people who attacked Amazon really. You know, Dofu Ningo is a conqueror and a lot, didn't perform very well. It's just, that's just how I would scale conquerors ability. It's not a major scale from that everybody can use, but that's how I look at it. Okay, my fault. - Not even good. - It could go either way. - Just one of that, you don't need extreme conquerors to beat people with conquerors, by the way. It really loses the black bearer and we all know it. We all know it and you know it too. - No, you're crazy. - Absolutely, really. - We all know it and you know it. - Did you see how he was flexing on Amazon? The league, he's still got it. - Bro, bro, bro, bro, bro. - But he is losing. - All right, we'll wrap it there. It looks like we're, that one that round went two for Dofu, one for Kuma, one for Crocodile. I really appreciate y'all's patience to know y'all were the last group that got in here. I know a few of you guys aren't Nakamura just yet and yak out in on the donations. If you guys want a guaranteed spot for these kinds of streams, become a Nakama on the Discord server or higher, and you'll have a visibility of the calling streams or the DDT streams entrance voice channel. But thank you guys. I'm gonna drop y'all so that I can close out and read some super chats, but y'all have a good night, all right? - Yeah, thank you, too. Have a good night. - I'll just barely get this last move. All right, well y'all, fight the stream. - Nice and on, let me drop. Toby, do you think? - True. - It's hyper. - I say I'm on my phone right now. - I got it, I got it, I got it. All right, well yeah, that was a fun episode, man. I hope y'all enjoyed yourselves. We got a couple more super chats to read. I wanna say where we averaged out for law. I wanna say the average, we got two plus one, plus one, plus one, plus two, plus. Damn, I can't do math. It's between four or five, I think, is the average. That's eight, that's, yeah, I think it's five higher. It's closer to five, yeah, it's closer to five. Were you taking count, Twilight? - Nah, nah, well then I'll be going off with what you were keeping track of, but that's why I was saying, 'cause how I think you did it on those first two rounds is what's got me confused why you added the plus one and plus two. - I definitely miss everything you just said. Some of them. Yeah, I actually yanked the Ox Cable out of my head phone, but yeah. - Oh, you're good at it. - Yeah, nah, this was a lot of fun. The next DDT, it won't be next week, but it should be the week after that. Will feature Kid as the runner, and it's gonna be the supernova gauntlet with some interesting entries. I'll say that, so look forward to that one. I'll share that out whenever I feel like it, I guess. But let's close out with some super chats so that we can close out here, I do gotta run soon. So, we got $2 from Mehawk The Goat. It says, "Mehawk solos, all the warlords, low div." I heavily disagree, I'm sure Larry does as well. Another two from King Alcazard. It's just wanted to show some love. Keep being yourselves, 100. Yeah, man, thank you Alcazard. I think I saw you jump in briefly to try to jump in here. I know we weren't able to get to you, and I gotta close, but thank you, man. And another five from Shadow. It says the same people that made the Yonkel bounty verbally hyped up Crocodile's Delfru as the reason for his bounty. Oh, I have to go back and read that, to be honest, 'cause I don't remember. But thank you guys. I really do appreciate all the super chats. I know there's a couple happy birthday wishes in the chat and verbally here, so thank you guys again. I really do appreciate it. T-O-P-T, it means a lot to me. And when you guys send those kinds of super chats and send those kinds of messages and supports, it's really something that makes me smile. So, I really do appreciate everything that y'all do. And, yeah, that's it. Like the stream, if you guys haven't already, it does help the YouTube algorithm. I think Larry programming note mentioned that we won't be able to stream from the studio on Monday. So, we'll probably do a home stream on Monday. I think we're still working out the kinks there because we are switching studios in general. So, if you guys see a different set up next Monday, you'll know why. I'm pretty sure, Larry, are you gonna be live streaming your chapter reaction this week? Or, no, I don't know if you're busy or not, I don't know. - Most likely, yeah. - Okay. 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