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Tourettes N-Word Pass? Epstein Alive, & Trump stirs Hockey Drama | #693

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Tourettes N-Word Pass? Epstein Alive, & Trump stirs Hockey Drama | #693

The discussion centers on a controversial incident at a BAFTA awards show where a presenter reportedly yelled a racial slur, sparking debate over whether this was a genuine Tourette’s tic or a deliberate racist act. Participants argue that involuntary tics do not excuse offensive language, and the timing—during a show with a Black audience—suggests possible racial insensitivity. They emphasize that Tourette’s is a medical condition, not a license for bigotry, and that society should not blame individuals for being offended by such behavior. The conversation expands to include broader cultural issues, such as code-switching in politics (e.g., Gavin Newsom’s remarks), where performance and authenticity are questioned, and athletes being unfairly politicized during events like the Olympics. A subplot explores Eileen Gu’s choice to represent China instead of the U.S., raising ethical questions about national identity, financial incentives, and athlete loyalty. The group critiques how culture wars target athletes, especially in sports, and how personal narratives are over-politicized. Ultimately, they conclude that while Tourette’s is involuntary, the societal response—especially from media and institutions—should be more mindful of its impact on marginalized communities. The discussion underscores the complexity of interpreting disability, race, and political performance, and calls for greater accountability in how such moments are framed and judged.

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all right what's up everybody welcome to flay great cracker damn what the hell what is that oh well did you have like an involuntary auditory response i can't control it oh is that what's happening right now yeah oh oh got it got it come on don't let me interrupt yeah i'm not gonna let you interrupt i was just gonna introduce everybody what's up it's schultz this is alex medium honky oh it feels like you might be making fun of disabled people no yeah you're making fun of racist disabled people oh yeah that's actually kind of bad stroke of luck to be racist and have to rest right like because because miles has no excuse for his racism yeah i know because we know he doesn't have to rest he has to like sneak it in even though we see it every single time yeah but like to be racist and then just be like oops every single time and people feel bad for you that oh can you explain to the good people what's going on it's basically like um like having a siamese twin and being into incest no i mean literally i mean literally what's going on think about it i didn't mean another metaphor oh no think about it it's like if you're into incest every time you touch you you're touching a family right like but so if you have a siamese twin it's your pussy and their pussy that's a good point your dick and their dick i never thought about that yeah you don't think about people who are siamese twins and into incest so because it's so you don't think about you're born a siamese twin right before you reach your sexual nature you're like oh my god this sucks and like i got this head coming out of here yeah then all of a sudden you hit puberty and you're like man oh you're 18 yeah you're 18 yeah yeah yeah at 18 years old you hit puberty and you're like damn i just really want to fuck my family and then you're like wait a minute oh shit and your brother is like harold why are you rubbing our butthole i'm still working it out guys i'm still working it out so if you're two brothers siamese style yes so sharing a body yes one genital organ the dream if you love incest okay if you love incest that is the dream if you are crippled by that disability of loving the idea of fucking your family members and you have one attached to you they're growing off your back they can't do shit damn they can't do shit that's one is gonna be like this the other one's gonna be like that yeah but he might have control the hands so only one of them i think they control a side we never know we don't know what the situation who controls the peace like who feels the peace the most ideally your brother they're jerking his dick because that's what someone who's into incest would like again i'm just putting a hypothetical out there they both feel it the same and then they gotta take turns they're like yo you got it tonight guys look there are siamese twins out there we can ask them about these things my suspicion is that they are not also afflicted with a lustful desire of incest yeah you can't have two both into incest that yeah the odds nuts come on now if they are let's be realistic yeah that's a good point hypothetically speaking if they are why leave the house it's right it's like every day super bowl there's nothing you would need to do in life damn what what was that sound that's my jaw heart okay i'm not gonna do it okay so can we talk about this man this brutal disease that he has that um allows you to just be yourself at all times can we explain my bad Tourette's people wasn't making fun of y'all well here's the thing with Tourette's people like how often is it that that they just yell this because i fought that one Tourette's girl on uh instagram yeah i still think it's fake so so that's the thing like how much of it is like leaning into it you don't think there's a little part of him who's like telling his boys like i'm gonna say it the second the second two black guys are up there i'm gonna say we gotta check the calcium because there's one person who's like Oz they screamed the n-word during the bapto and it was 10 million they put on it like a random account so is it racism uh or go go go or what or is it that thing where you're like we all think of the worst thing you could possibly do in a moment right you're at a funeral and you're like oh God and like you start kind of giggling to yourself because it would be really inappropriate if you did something if you do what I just screamed the embers like wouldn't that be really inappropriate that would be really appropriate that would be really up and none of us would do that I've never had that thought no you know way more dead people kind of some you've been way more funerals than me I've been to a handful yeah but I wouldn't ever say that I would never yell that there's no there's no proof that you haven't done it um no there's people that have been to these funerals that would testify on my behalf yeah they probably testify because you got a bunch of lying Catholics in your family nobody's gonna trust that goy slap test anyway no one's gonna trust that goy slap you're gonna go up there we can agree you shouldn't do it at a funeral no matter what I don't think you should do it any situation yeah now if you know that there was a chance you were gonna do this would you show up to the award show um I mean it's his award show also like it was for the movie that he was in yeah it was made about him yeah but like if you know that this could happen and it might overshadow this beautiful movie that was made about you would you do it remember when we what about like a dog muzzle and then no matter what word you say it turns it into not the end yeah yeah well potential we had a show potential we had a show shout out uh it was in it was in Virginia somewhere I forget I'm pretty sure it was upstate oh it was upstate yeah yeah okay my bad anyway we had a show and there was a woman who had Tourette's and I think it was apparent pretty early and she disclosed it to the club she disclosed to the club yeah and what uh what I said to Dove was I was like look here's the deal I want you guys to enjoy the show my fear is that if you start having the the ticks it might interrupt the show and interrupt the other people who are able you know who came here to go watch the show and you might also feel embarrassed I'm gonna have to address it and I don't want to like might be a whole thing um would you be down to watch the show side stage so we're like able to put her side stage some might say a better seat you put her in the colors only section bro that's crazy the the fact that you would assume that's crazy yeah you would you would make it racial out yeah this whole thing is racial man he was yelling how the hell did he not just yell whatever race the rest of the presenters were to even it out well apparently he did say some other slurs or not slurs but throughout but he has to slur it every time yeah well yeah you have to follow it up with another slur just to get it off you being like oh I'm not always racist like if Alan Cummings is up there what would you say well he is Scottish yeah so what would you say what would you be think about something Scottish oh hey look at you yeah that's a good that's a Scottish slur like he could say that I like Alan Cummings too much but I can't Alan Cummings is the man I know he's dope I love him but there's no way a tick goes off like every time Alan Cummings like even hearing that I'm kicking I want to let something loose has anybody ever told them to not say like try to not say it but that probably makes you want to say more yeah I guess I've heard people say that it's like an OCD thing where you're like oh don't say the worst thing and then you say the worst thing it comes out that does that is true so if you say don't say it it's the worst thing you always have to say hey save whatever you want and then they would the OCD yeah and then someone said that to him and he was like fine this has nothing to do with Tourette's it's like telling you something off pot and then don't bring it up yeah exactly yeah you're saying I do that yeah give me one instance give me one instance of personal information for the entire internet all my past relationships but not this current one not this current one yeah I don't say anything about her visa issues I don't say anything about her visa issues she's talking about the credit card you know yeah yeah yeah you know she hasn't spent it you know is she she's not saying anything about her visa issues she's talking about the credit card you know yeah yeah yeah yeah she's like she's like no not really do you ever in a fight bring that up in a fight with her do you ever just you'll never in a fight just play fucking villain allies guys right now yeah there's ice and Trump around it's not it's not fun that's not it's not funny but she never brings up in a fight oh your dick gets skinnier as it goes to the base she never brings that up like you talk about that why does your dick get skinnier as it goes to the base you should tour I don't want to open up another WTF studio look at dick having that and then you never want to say anything nah it's like uh the middle porridge it's just right it's just right I knew where you were going I think I don't know your favorite new phrases every day that's awesome his favorite Jewish Bears perfect goyslop to get you to just do no it's the Berenstein Bears it's Goldilocks no Goldilocks well isn't that also their thing gold and locks that's good that's good off the cuff racism no matter what fucking bear it is Wait, were they even, was Goldilocks a bear? There were bears involved, but I don't know what their religion was. We have no, don't do that. I mean, what does Dove's name mean? Okay, technically that means bear. I'm just saying, guys, do the math. Wow. Don't let me start talking about the Ninja Turtles, Mark. Mark, don't let me start talking about the Ninja Turtles. That one I think you're fine to talk about. It's technically not racist. Hold on, I'm sending it to Joey right now. Don't let me talk about the Ninja Turtles. He sent me this at 2 in the morning last night. Don't let me, I wasn't getting radicalized. At 2 a.m., dude. I wasn't getting radicalized because my wife is sleeping in the other room with the newborn and I'm by myself to scroll as long as my fucking heart's desire. That's a nice scroll right there. Unlimited doom scroll. Yeah. Yeah, you're on your own. What you got, what you got? I'm just saying, don't let me get started about the indoctrination. Indoctrination. Indoctrination. It's the indoctrination because what is it? Oh. Mm-hmm. Come on. Mm-hmm. Do the math. Here it is. Yo. Is that the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles? Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles is a show about reptiles, reptilians, living underground in underground tunnels. What food do they like the most? Pizza. Pizza is code word for pedophiles. Their connection with April is their connection to the mainstream media, how they influence the masses from behind the scenes. So, Shredder, we owe you an apology, fam. These writers just put it in front of our faces for too long. So. Yo, Egg's spitting. Yeah, I'm sure. Shout out, Egg. I mean, a few things. I don't think turtles are reptiles. I think they're amphibians. Yeah, they're definitely amphibians. What do you mean, definitely? You sent us a fucking reptile. Why would you do a reptile to an amphibian? Obviously, they had to throw the scent off the trail. Yeah, okay. You think they're going to actually put a reptile under there? That would be too obvious. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Pizza's not. I mean, pizza's code word for something else. You. It was used by the PDFs. And turtles went into a lot of pizza. Yeah. And what about April? What about their connection to April? I don't know what April is. April is. Oh, my God, Mark. I didn't watch this show. How about childhood? I didn't watch. Can you have a childhood? I'm not going to watch this satanic pedophile show, dude. I've watched other stuff. Rachel. Rachel. No, hand from the top. Hand it. Rachel was a badass ginger. Her name's April. What the fuck are you reading? I'm reading. Damn, dude. He's really. He's losing it, though. I'm losing it. I'm starting out hot. I think my Tourette's is really taking over, to be honest with you. I'm saying it kind of wrong. Badass ginger. Named? April. Thank you. Worked for the media. Oh. Oh, she's in peace. Doing propaganda for the Ninja Turtles. Oh. Mm-hmm. What channel? Channel six. Oh. Six, six, six. What does that mean? Devil's number. Yeah. Do the math. Do the math. Why don't we start on this? What was that? I don't. We were talking about BAFTA. Can we get some AC in here? It's getting hot. Get the BAFTA, dude. Okay? This guy has, like, stage four, right? Oh, man, Al. Like, got to. Al, come on. It got to. He might just have alopecia. You know what he looks like? Do you remember Harry Potter when the guy takes off the turban? Yo, he's on the back of the Sorcerer's Stone. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Professor Quirrell. Yep. He got a little of that look, but he's spitting right now. Yeah. He is spitting right now. Yeah, but he didn't even mention the tunnels and the rats. He did. No, he did. He mentioned the tunnels. I missed that. You did miss it, yeah. Oh, I couldn't get past it. No, I'm wrong. That shit is crazy. No, goy brain. You have a little goy brain. You can't handle this kind of next-level information. He's just ascending, bro. He's ascending right now. What do we do about the guy with Tourette's? Do we forgive him because this is an illness that he did not ask to have? Is it actual racism? I've heard a lot of people saying that it is actually racist and we're not going to forgive him for having Tourette's. I think both things can be true. I think they. They could be legitimately offended if they choose to be. Yes. But also. I was offended. You were? Secondhand offense, yep. Tell us what it felt like. I didn't see the clip, actually. All right, well, let's see how offended you are. Go ahead. Roll the clip. Wow, you're going to subject me to that again? Again? What do you mean, again? You said you didn't see the clip. Hey, well. They lie. They lie for a second time for everything. They lie. Time for everything. Yo, what's up? I'm delighted to be presenting the first BAFTA of the night for a vital part of moviemaking We're here to. That's not funny, guys. That's not funny, bro. That's not funny. That's not funny. That's not funny. That's not funny. That's great. He screamed. He waited for the beat. Yeah. He waited for a moment of silence. That is not Tourette's, bro. Come on. Because if Tourette's is involuntary, why are you waiting for the moment of silence? Yeah, the beat drop. The beat drop. You're going to tell me that guy's racist with that perfect of timing? There's no way. And what Tourette's is you screaming at the top of your lungs, bro? That is a great point. He could have whispered it. He could have said it. He could have said it to his shirt. Nah. He's like, nah, watch out. I hear me. I ain't mic'd up. And everybody heard. When was the last time you heard anyone in the audience at one of these award shows? They don't even mic the audience. I bet they had a mic on him. I would not be surprised if they mic'd him up, just in case. All right, guys. Here are our comedy show dates in less than 30 seconds. I got a new one we just added. Nashville, Tennessee, coming to Zany's March 20th through the 21st. 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When he, if he just yells it? He yells it. Everyone looks back and go, who said it? And then what, do you sell him out? You sell it to a guy with a disability? Yeah. What do you do? Go ahead. I'm selling him out. Immediately. Yeah. You go, right here. He did it. He did it. Okay. I don't even know what I would do in that situation, Mark. That is terrifying. I would be offended. What would you do? I would start crying. There we go. In solidarity. You would cry in solidarity? Yeah, during Black History Month. Would you cover his face? Would you put your hand over his mouth? Yeah, I'd put him in a chokehold, dude. Would you? Yes, dude. Yes. It's Black History Month. I'm not going to let him yell that. You can't harm the disabled. I'm not going to harm him, dude. What are the, also, also, the no harming the disabled is the physically, right? Okay. Disabled. Hold on. No, like, if you're someone who's battling, like, just you yell things, you can still fight that person. That's not like that. No, it's uncontrollable. Supposedly. Yeah, but if they're a jerk when they mean to be. I'm still not. I'm still not 100% sold. Black people don't believe it. You're like a truther for Tourette's. It's interesting. He has Tourette's. Allegedly. If he said anything else, like, if it was fucking, like, Simu Liu up there accepting it for, like, the Five Rings movie or whatever that was. Asian accent. Or, like, dog sauce or whatever. Like, there's no, do you think that, do you think the black community would be as enraged by it? Or would they be like, yeah, we got to find someone with Tourette's. Yeah. This shit is so fucking crazy. Give him to the crew. We need black people with Tourette's. We don't get no shows or anything like that. That would be funny. Do they make black people with Tourette's? Do they have that? I don't know. I don't think we'd come in Tourette's. Hmm. Maybe not yet. Maybe you guys are still getting on. See? We got to hop onto the bandwagon. Can we find a black guy with Tourette's on the internet? That's why you know it's fake. I saw a guy who was due, like, an Instagram. I think his name is, does the animals? No. Oh. No, no. Wait, why? Is a black dude with autism and does the animals? No, not autism. This guy has Tourette's. That was a little. That's crazy, Mark. How's that crazy? Is a black dude with the animals? Like, that was, that was. He does animal sounds. He does perfect animal sounds. Did you just have Tourette's right now? Wait, yes, I did. Yes, I did. Yeah, I had Tourette's. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get that joke free. Yo. That is a, yeah. Nope. Where did your brain go? Why did your brain jump to that? Because I thought you were talking about a black dude with a disability that's very fun and awesome on the internet. Oh, no. No, no, no. And so I was going to throw it in there. Maybe we were going to, I was going to algorithm you. Do you know who has Tourette's? Uh, is, um, yeah, this is the guy. New York City Public Defender, I think his name. And he was, he was talking about it. But he was talking about it because he has it, but then he didn't have any tics during it. Oh. Which is. Yeah, that can happen. Which also can happen. Maybe edit it out. It's a tragic. Now, you told me that there was an edit made to this, and this was not the edit. Well, that, I think, is ultimately where the blame should lie. I don't think we need to blame a disabled guy for having a tic. I also don't think we should blame these guys for being offended if they were offended. Yep. I think, ultimately, it falls on the BB. I think it falls on the BBC. Big Black Cock? Nope. The British Broadcast. What is the T-Stamp? Was that another thing he yelled out during the show? Oh, this is a British thing? Yeah. The BAFTA? Why do we care about this? I thought this was, like, a Black American Film and Television Association. Oh. I thought it was, like, uh. That was really good. Yeah. I thought it was BET. What did you guys think it was? Nah, bro. I thought it was Black American Film and Television Association, and that's why I thought it was a big deal. Yeah. You've got a white guy. You're trying to give him an award, make him feel inclusive, and he's yelling the N-word at the Black Award Show. You thought they had Alan Cummings. to the bet awards he's gay i don't know he's gay the games they do the games can do whatever games are like whatever the blood is we could all use yeah it's like universal donor whatever it's a universal donor how are you going to judge them when our whole show is Tourette's the whole basis of our show is Tourette's syndrome what you feel you say yes yes now if you were at the BAFTA awards yeah and you were sitting next to this guy and he yelled it yeah would you take responsibility would you say actually it was me hey guys it was me would you bail him out if you were his homie no i'm clutching my pearls oh i'm selling it how the how the did he not like suing i'm getting this too come on best friends yeah friend okay um yeah i didn't know that it was a british thing okay that's uh yeah so now you don't give a well no it's like did they even use that word over there i thought that was our word like don't they have their own word well that's the crazy part he's scottish screaming it oh don't bring that in yeah yeah don't bring him being scottish oh it's our fault yeah oh it's our fault my people are fucking fuckers yeah exactly that hurt Tourette's now just in defense of sheep shagging if there was an animal that you were gonna do it to i think it's undeniably the sheep cheeky very cheeky yeah yeah caked up crazy you've seen those videos of the wagon just whipping back and forth right and it's got a built-in washcloth yeah what about damn this is gonna be rough what about the orangutans with the fat pussy holy shit well yo man hey man Tourette's Tourette's Tourette's i gotta block myself from whatever i said from the rest of the episode this shield is here Tourette's Al's Tourette's no we've seen the pull up pull up what Al said pull up what Al said which i fully disagree with or rather i'll reserve judgment that's all i see uh good god Al yeah also why you brought up the youngest sheep possible like bring up some i don't know sheep jerry you with lamb looking at jmail for the last two weeks nah bro that's it there it is that's my there it is why are they brushing it like that they know what they're doing look at them they know what they're doing bro no i don't wait that's too youthful yeah why are they smacking it like that it's not you gotta let them grow they gotta go that's lamb chops you can even let that thing grow a little bit joey take this fucking video off the screen all right let's see oh that's what that's what you want more than anything wow that one got three titties yeah that's a good point that's one better than what i used yeah that's a good point yeah you gotta stand on this bro no we need 20 toes down find a wallet find a wallet stand on a wallet that's what you that's what you want that should look like tobacco the old prune bro that's great that's in the first basement how that's what you desiring over some nice sheep that looks like alex's elbow bro that's crazy what happened dude this whole thing's making me uncomfortable that's crazy they got them they got moisturized i'm gonna go home tonight come on i can't believe you brought that up yo you're well for that how where did this even come on your screen that you've been thinking about it i see where the thought process went it's Tourette's now you were by yourself looking at the internet man look at her tearing that thing open got a twig in there watch an animal planet okay damn miles had to take the long way back he just rumbled i need a walk i need to walk oh top left don't click it don't click it all right what's she screaming right there anyway point is point is point is is that even even gavin newsom has Tourette's moments i think we can acknowledge that as a group as a family yes this is i've been waiting i didn't watch i didn't watch it because i want to have an honest reaction oh okay we can pull it up yeah so gavin newsom is in a little bit of trouble because he was speaking in atlanta and um he was doing a politician pander tactic yeah you guys really love this video what would you love about it someone i mean it's pretty funny yeah this is this is the next president united states it's pretty funny oh okay let's see let's see i can press upon you i'm like you i'm no better than you you know i'm a 960 sat guy and you know and i'm not trying to offend anyone you know trying to act all there if you got a 940 but literally a 960 sat guy i cannot you you've never seen me read a speech because i cannot read a speech maybe the wrong business to be in i mean dude now we should say he has a disability he's dyslexic yes i'm making fun of him he's a disability okay which i think makes this more offensive because he's like uh i have a disability which makes me dumb but you guys are just dumb hey i'm just like you because i have a mental condition that stops me from being able to read and do math so that's why i got a 960 on my sats bro it's so bad i hate when politicians try to black it up like even the way he's speaking and the mannerisms like why are you doing that i hate this shit i wait did you feel that he was trying to black it up a little bit oh i didn't get that like when he talked to the crowd he started from the very beginning see if there's any the very beginning of the show i don't know i don't know i don't know the beginning of the video because you missed his first line i'm not you know i'm not trying to impress you i'm just trying to impress upon you pause i can respect what respect is dude i was kind of i'm not trying to impress him i'm not trying to impress upon you i said that to a bitch one day well i was pressing up on her that night jesus al yeah i'm talking about fornicating man you got a fiance bro suddenly it's my past nah bro we don't bring up our past on this podcast you know yeah we don't we never talk about this never talk about that al you were making a point you don't like it when white politicians tend to black it up is that the term or urban it up perform for black people got it like just be yourself we respect it more and why do you think that they think that that works i honestly don't know but maybe it does or maybe they think it does i honestly don't know now in news defense right there again i i maybe i'm not the target demo for this but i didn't feel like he was really doing that doing what like trying to talk hood or like uh you keep playing just a little bit more like once he starts talking to the crowd i'm like you i'm no better than you you know i'm a 960 sat guy and you know and i'm not trying to offend anyone you know trying to act all there if you got nine i'm not trying to hack all there like there's also like it's a little there's a clip of him today with ursher and uh he's he's emoting okay go yeah go he's hitting the emotes big time it's also just kind of hilarious like newsome just doesn't have any clue like i think if the idea is that he's in atlanta right this is i don't even know if the crowd is super diverse i think people are kind of making some guesses about that it might not just be black people and i think maybe that's what the internet is running with so maybe that's not fair but like the assumption let's say well so let's say it is like the the assumption that the sat score is about i think black women are like the most highly educated group in america like percentage wise you know i mean so this idea it's like that's how he's connecting it's like you're actually connecting the wrong way yeah like you should be like yeah i went to college i furthered my education like all of you guys do here i want to show that i know this about you yeah but the opposite he's like hey we can't read right i mean it's just bad and then he's hanging with us you're trying to all right let's see this you tell me if i'm reading into this that was like with the hand watch the hand do i get out of here come on can a white boy have some motion because he was like trying to give that he wasn't sure if he was going so then he's like can a white boy have some motion though he don't got motion though he don't so just just be yourself yo can i can i just say this though is that code switching is kind of awesome code switching is kind of fun thank you a little thank you finally a little keep going go on that you go to japan okay and all of a sudden you start talking a little japanese you want to be offensive but just kind of it just seeps in i 100 would do that was the only way i could get the uh the cab drivers to know where we were going i would i would say where we were going in english in their accent that should don't work al it does not i swear to god i swear to god in my life it works a hundred percent of the time you know why it worked because you entered the address in uber and it already knew where you were going they didn't have uber when i was there you go there like a guy comes in a taxi and like picks you up and takes you where it is and if the guy at the hotel doesn't tell him you got to tell him and i would tell him i would do it don't ask him how to do it i would do it every single time don't no i kind of want to know you can't because japanese is different from chinese it's very it's different it's different it's actually the same way it might be macadam that's what you use that would be easy for him to do if we're going shopping whatever it is i would say the place and i would say it in a japanese accent and 100 of the time it works i hated that they rewarded my racism i didn't want to be racist i tried to say it in english disgusted you it disgusted me i was repulsed by it but i still had to get my wife these places that she desperately wanted to go to arcade arcade why are you going to the arcade shibuya crossing shibuya crossing that one is japanese yeah i know that one's in your good shibuya crossing that one's fine shifty's leaving we're insulting this anime people he's like you go to france yeah i'll see you talk to like a little french accent you do some i agree with this i'm not saying it's right i'm it might not even be ethical it's high level communication it's what smart people do to communicate in the world that they live in wait a minute he might be honest it's fun to code it's why i appreciate southerners so much southerners refuse to code switch so now you're saying the opposite of what you just yes people with a southern accent cannot change their accent they cannot do a new york accent they cannot do a california accent they are locked in to that southern drawl there's nothing they can do about it name one more wall and he busted it out oh no that was a southern that was the southern end where he just oh yeah technically that's their work yeah i feel like if anything he went back to his roots have you heard a southern guy start talking like northeast no haven't done it can't do it northeast folks go down south all of a sudden we're saying y'all a little bit more you don't like saying a little y'all y'all down south what's up y'all i tried but nah because being from new york is a yeah of course every place is awesome i ain't trying to be like these french french i missed it i did miss it i'm very good but that's just the only thing in defense of gavin but it is very corny when he's doing it because it's one thing to code switch a little it's another thing to be like yo i'm black dude i i financed a hellcat dude you can't don't say that that's where it's bad hey why why what made you come up with that example was a one it was a funny tweet that i saw and two it's like he's trying to commiserate on the bad stereotypes yeah i'm like you guys i can't read yeah i know it's like what if he was like yo i'm like you guys i like let's go back to that hellcat comment i know right what do you mean well there's a stereotype within the black community that a lot of black rappers specifically love hellcats is that right yeah oh no way yeah exactly i didn't know that yeah i think it's a southern thing yeah yeah what do they get cyber trucks actually yeah me and yayo got one no way yeah yeah let's go but yeah y'all people you know yeah y'all people southerners anyway do we forgive him do we forgive gavin our next president he just got to cut it out do you think he's winning um too early to tell i'm still thinking aoc what's up with john ossoff um watch john ossoff come out of nowhere white obama it's white obama stop it he got he got the look he got the hair he's slender he's from the south he's from the south he knows he's from chicago what say again obama was from chicago we're saying john ossoff no you yeah but if you're a white guy you got to be from the south oh it's the only way to make the it's the only way to make the republicans feel comfy like talarico is a democrat but he knows christianity better than any of his competitors so he can evoke that in his messaging okay it's incredibly effective okay wasn't clinton from the south of course jimmy carter from the south come on like white dems you know what i'm saying you need you need to go yeah okay yeah i know that i mean biden got the the co-sign from from barack you know which maybe got him over the hump but it's it's hard to be uh it's hard out here for whites from the north bro yo it's hard out for these northern whites man to win a presidency so john awesome watch john awesome it's so hard and you're talking that episode so hard for trump to do it twice it's so hard these whites never win a election it's so hard to do one white person is won multiple elections from the north yo did you know the bushes are from ohio yeah and then they thought they were texas they kind of faked the texas thing a little bit oh really don't don't fall for it al oh so he's just pretending to be a yeah that was offensive i hope leslie wexner handles you i hope leslie wexner here ohio i don't know what's cal she got gavin gavin newsom at see he's up up 28 28 trending down aoc trending up 10 percent i'm telling you awesome at seven percent watch watch for awesome oh kamala seven percent if kamala does it runs it back yeah she probably got it this time yo she probably got i think i think i got it this time if she speaks up i think she has a chance really yeah if she speaks up because she was like held back by butter oh yeah she speaks on it yeah i think that was the issue she was a loyal person and loyal to her fault so now she gotta stand up on her own twos tell us what she really feels she feels yeah and i think maybe you know it might be different i think that yeah i think it was just biden i think it was just buying holder back yeah yeah i think that was probably it was just buying all of that you know yeah it's always a white man not not not funding turning gaza into a parking lot that probably has nothing to do with it it's probably biden or those podcast guys yeah there's probably those podcast guys yeah she should have came oh yeah nothing to do with what gaza looks like at all and having no opinions 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Yes, it is in terms of like historically, but it's often like geopolitical culture war, right? It's like America versus this country that we were either at war with, or we're about to go to war with, or we're at war with in the past. Oh, okay. And now it feels like it's like internal struggle, right? So tell me about that. I didn't see that. I just see everybody saying, oh, Canada suck our dicks. Yeah. I mean, we beat Canada in hockey. Far. You know, which is, I mean, I've been a huge hockey fan my whole life. This is a big deal for me. And like, I was like, yo, you guys are going crazy in the group chat. And I was like, I cannot give a shit. So then I jumped, I was in bed with my wife and I jumped up and I threw my hat and my wife was looking at me like, you've never watched a hockey match in your entire life. And I'm like, I know, but America won. And I know how much Canada wanted it. And we snatched that bitch out of there. And it was, and low key, and I don't want to take anything away from the U.S. team, but like it, it wasn't looking great. No. Like I watched the game. Oh, we was down? No, we weren't down. We were up actually. And they just had a lot of opportunities. Yeah. Yeah. Canada had a lot. They played fucking great. I mean, the Americans are dogs. I don't want to be having this take right now. I want to come out here and be like, yo, we fucking dog walk them. They're a bunch of pussies. They suck, whatever. But like they, Canada played fucking great. The U.S. played amazing. The goalie played lights out. Now the goalie was amazing. This guy. But yeah, absolutely. And they're all at 11 last night. They're probably still there. The flight got diverted to the best city to fuck pussy on the plane. The beautiful thing about hockey guys is like, they're not so famous that people know what they look like. Oh yeah. So they have the money of an athlete. They have like the, the puck chasers or whatever the girls are. And then the prestige, if you just flash the metal and you're like, yeah, that's what the hoes are called. Puck chasing. I don't know. What is it? Puck bunnies or whatever. They got tons of nicknames, but they also have anonymity. They could operate in the world in a very different way. Like they'll be at, they could go to a strip club. LeBron can't really go to a strip club. Right. Gotcha. So it's like, they're the most fun athletes to party with because they can actually party. What's their stature? Like, are they typically tall or are they average? Some of the guys are tall, but some of the guys are kind of regular height. Cause I know he's stocky. But they're not like big muscular guys up here. It doesn't require big muscles, like legs. Yeah. Anyway, I'm talking about my ass. I don't know like a, so the guy Jack Hughes is 5'11". So they kind of look like regular guys. Okay. Right. And he's my height. Yeah. I guess. Yeah. He's your height. Keep going. Keep going. You were skates on anyway. So they're the, they're the most fun athletes. Like they can actually get after and party. And, um, and so they're just an 11, just going fucking berserk last night. Cause the flight got diverted. Isn't that, isn't that? what a horrible thing there's a snowstorm we just gotta go to miami it's the only place they should celebrate though yeah cash patel looked it up it's a snowstorm on that flight the cash patel thing is so annoying because it's just like can you just let them have a fucking victory you know the second you it's so selfish like the second you insert yourself in the room it becomes culture war yeah and it's like let america have this great victory these guys played their fucking asses off it's a dream win for the men's and the women's team if you're in the locker room drinking beers because you're a big hockey fan it's this completely selfish endeavor that puts these guys under the microscope right like instead of being somebody we could all celebrate if they're treating cash as if he's like one of the guys now everybody just goes look at these pieces of shit not judging cash patel for being there and all the things that he's been supporting it's just like just stay the fuck out of it you just stay the fuck out of it he's corny bro yeah you're saying the guy who wanted to be the fbi director is corny you're saying the guy who wanted to spy on people for a living is is not a cool guy i'm really i just don't like this he's always he he wants too much attention like just be behind shit and lock up criminals yeah also i don't like them having a life yeah like anybody that like has like little hobbies and shit like i don't really got enough time to be part of it yeah be respectful do that shit in private like on epstein's island there was an island yeah i want to see that shit yeah there was an island where they could have fun the elites without the judgment there you go so maybe if we were a little bit more open about their partying then they wouldn't feel the need to do that he said he wasn't over there for the olympics he said he had other business to handle oh yeah what was that not the olympics whatever you think it is it was not the way he had to be in milan to go do other fbi work oh yeah it was his girlfriend doing some country performance in italy you know she's a touring act what would the fbi have to do in another country well i've heard both things on this that's what's so annoying people like no dude the fbi has to be there in order to protect the americans in an official capacity that's the cia yeah fbi is america and then they're like no he wasn't even there for the olympics he was just there to my man just say you like hockey just don't be in the locker room and then put these guys through it because these guys are dealing with it now right it's like and the other corny thing if i can get him to come to the white house and you know i gotta invite the women too you know so i don't get impeached some shit like that he said some bullshit about not wanting to have the women there and i'm like yo they won gold too let me tell you something the fuck let me tell you i thought it's america first no no you fucking cried for a sport you don't give a fuck about you're not let me tell you something first of all don't ever say i don't care about hockey the second if it was if it was like the netherlands speed skating women's team they would be invited to the white house and i promise you nah they too old come on now come on i'm just saying maybe the hockey girls aren't from style can we play what he said because i'm trying to figure out if it was a joke like he should have said it as the president but is he being silly yeah he's fucking joking around why i try and you shouldn't say it it's so corny i just want to hear i haven't heard yet and we have to i must tell you we're gonna have to bring the woman's team you do know that boss boss a lot of people are going to talk about how they're laughing at the joke but there's some guys in the background going two for two i don't know if you saw that yeah so they're not like oh don't bring them they're proud yeah that u.s hockey went two for two yeah they tried to turn him trying to shit on the women into a positive regardless if they try to turn it or not clearly the guys have been very supportive i just hate how like we bring athletes into this we put them in these positions and then we drag them through the culture war oh yeah i'm not mad at the athletes like i'm mad at trump and putting them in that position and that's the same thing with with patel yeah yeah it's like because apparently the u.s men's hockey team has been very supportive and like stoked about the women's hockey gold and like that is the idea we should continue to work together and be like hey this is american excellence america loves american excellence we run on american excellence this is an incredible thing and amazing accomplishments and we love it and unfortunately every one of these athletes gets just jammed through this culture or microscope and it's so exhausting it's like yeah just let them have their one they're kids they're kids they really don't know much probably about the world they've dedicated their entire life to these obscure sports like we're asking them geopolitical questions like they've they're aware none of them go to college do you know what i mean yeah i'm not mad at them i'm not mad at them they're kids they really don't know much probably about the world they've dedicated their entire life to these obscure sports like we're asking them geopolitical questions like they've they're aware none of them go to college do you know what i mean like we're asking them geopolitical questions like they've they're aware none of go to college do you know what i mean like we don't know that yes we do yeah these are these are yes we do yeah these are these are yes we do yeah these are these are elite athletes that have been plucked elite athletes that have been plucked elite athletes that have been plucked since they're 12 years old or since they're 12 years old or since they're 12 years old or maybe even younger and then put on maybe even younger and then put on maybe even younger and then put on track to go represent either the united track to go represent either the united track to go represent either the united states or you know the interests of like states or you know the interests of like states or you know the interests of like uh teams within the united states so funny i look at hockey funny i look at hockey funny i look at hockey hockey players i'm like i'm just a bunch hockey players i'm like i'm just a bunch hockey players i'm like i'm just a bunch of firemen that decided to skate for a of firemen that decided to skate for a of firemen that decided to skate for a weekend like nobody plays this you know it's like nobody plays this you know it's like nobody plays this you know it's just called a dad getting together and just called a dad getting together and just called a dad getting together and yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah maybe that is like maybe why don't maybe that is like maybe why don't maybe that is like maybe why don't these teenagers know more about the these teenagers know more about the these teenagers know more about the world why don't these teenagers have world why don't these teenagers have world why don't these teenagers have stronger opinions about what's happening stronger opinions about what's happening stronger opinions about what's happening he shouldn't have made the joke as the he shouldn't have made the joke as the he shouldn't have made the joke as the president president president but If Kamala, as the vice president, called the women's team and was like, by the way, we have to invite the boys, it would be a little different, I feel like. Of course. Bars. Like, it's a locker room joke, pun intended, which I think is inappropriate for the president to make, but it's also kind of like, all right, you're fucking around. I get it. The list of things that we could be frustrated about, this isn't even on it. Like, this isn't even on it. Yeah. Like, I'm not caring about this. It's just corny. Yeah, sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, sure. And now, like you said, it's turning into a culture war because now the girls are like, oh, we're not even going to the White House. They're saying no? Yeah. Yeah. So this is his way of getting out of it? You think this is how he designed it? Okay. No. I'm curious about the, what did you guys think about the Eileen Gu Alyssa Liu? Yeah. What do you think about this? This storyline has been quite interesting. Yeah, people are comparing them, which is interesting. Yeah. They're both half American, half Chinese. Born and raised in America. Both of them. And Alyssa competes for the United States in figure skating. And Eileen competes in freestyle skiing for China. And she chose, I think, last Olympics to decide to compete for China. Yeah. I think it was like 2019 before the 2022 Olympics. Yeah. And she chose up to go compete for China and people were like, oh, well, she did it for money. So it seems like the sports bureau in China, like paid her a few mil. Like it was like five or six mil or something like that. Plus like all the endorsements in China. It's really the endorsements and like opening up to that market. I've looked for like confirmation that she got directly paid for them, paid by them, by China. And I haven't really seen anything that's very plausible that she did. But like, I think she's one of the highest paid athletes. I think she's one of the highest paid athletes in the world. That's because of the endorsements. Get the fucking bag. Her face is everywhere in China. So get the fucking bag. So you say get the bag. Get the bag. Get the bag. Especially for Olympians. Like they don't have that long and that many opportunities to compete. She makes 20 million a year. Yeah. She might not have made that if she played for USA. The question I have for you. She's the hottest looking Chinese. Bro, she is. She's like made in a lab. Like we were joking about this last week. Yeah, so I'm saying. She's like Ivan Drago. Like she is perfect. She's stunningly beautiful. She's like a genius. She went to Stanford. She had like an 1850 in her SATs or something. She studied. And she didn't study like communications or something. Yeah. She studied like. Hey. Is there a U of I in it? Exactly. Well, you're working in it. But like she studied like some like physics or something. Like an actual. But that's like a seven walking down Soho. She studied quantum physics. Quantum physics. And then now is focusing on international relations. Makes sense. Anyway. So yeah. She's like a supermodel. She's an amazing athlete. The best in her field. Maybe like the best in history in her discipline. And but she was born in America. Raised in America. Trained in America. Like all the things that would lead her to supporting America. Like my feeling is like whatever country fed you. You got to represent them. And if you don't make that team. Then you could go to another one. But like I don't think it should be okay. For like one country to literally raise you up from the ground up. And then when it's time to compete. Like you go somewhere else. What about with soccer? Don't they do that shit a lot? I don't believe that should be allowed. Like I think America took on a bunch of like half American. Half German players. Because I think they were like born on American Navy bases. Or like military bases or whatever in Germany. But I'm like well if you ate schnitzel and shit. You're a German. Like you got to play for them. Like whatever country feeds you and trains you. You got to play over there. But it happens a lot. There's like American dudes that are good at snowboarding. But they're not the best. And then the Olympics rolls around. They're like oh I can go make the team in Italy. I'm saying if you can't make the team from your country of origin. Then you could go for your other country. So we're only mad at her because she's good. Yeah. So if she wasn't good you wouldn't care? Yeah go to China and play. I don't care. 100%. Yeah. 100%. Absolutely. That's fair. If you're not good enough to make the American team. And you go somewhere else. Great. But we trained you. Yeah. Like a lot of money was spent raising these. Creating the opportunities for these. A lot of her money. Her family's money is not. Yeah but when she's like a junior. I'm sure there's like junior Olympic committees. And that kind of stuff. That are like trying to bring up these athletes. And make sure that they'll be successful. No you care about where your tax dollars go. We do now. Caring about that every year. Nah but come on. She gets to compete two maybe three times. Get the fucking bag. You work your whole life. You're still competing. You're still the best in the world. Whether or not whatever team you. Play for. You're still doing the same thing. I'm proving I'm the best at this thing. Alright so when. I don't care what. So when. So when Judas took the bag to. Are you cool with that? Well who? Judas took the bag. I don't know this story. Yeah it's about him. Could you break down the story Mark? You might be able to share more details than I. Basically Judas betrays Jesus Christ. And tells the Roman authorities where he is. He took the bag. It's the bag. Yeah but that's to get somebody killed. That's way different. How many opportunities. Is Judas going to have to get the bag? Son this is her little fucking hobby. She's just skiing around in some ice. Skiing is life Al. He loves hockey. He loves skiing. Skiing is life. Okay. He's obsessed. Hundred percent. I'm telling you man. And we still. Didn't we. Didn't we win the whole shit? No Norway did. But. So we beat China. True. So fuck her. But she did kind of sell out. She sold out. Why can't we be critical of. You French Canadian talking about selling out. Get the fuck out of here. So here's the question. Yo go back to your country. I don't know if she shouldn't sell. I don't know if it's unethical but she did sell out. Would she go if it wasn't for the bag? If we offered the same bag would she go? You don't know. If we offer one dollar more yes. She would go. To America. She would say here. Yeah. So then it's just the bag. Can't. I'm not mad at that. But you're okay with that. Yeah I'm fine. Yeah I'm cool with that. But I think everyone would kind of do that. This nigga. Come on son. Nah I wouldn't. Son. If the Scottish government. This guy goes to fucking all Scotland. Go go go go. Pulls up says yo Schultz your mom's Scottish. Yeah. You can become a Scottish citizen really easily. Yeah. You're tech. You are ethnically Scottish. Yeah. You get to compete in the paddle world championships representing Scotland. Am I the best in America? Sure. Not a chance. And you're going to get paid fifty seven million dollars. Nope. Bullshit. Any chance to represent America. Any chance to represent America over another country I'm taking. There's not a single thing that you could convince me to do otherwise. One hundred percent. Yeah. But if you weren't. I'm upset. This is so cap. I'm upset. I wish somebody could offer him some shit. I'm upset. You would switch up so quick. I'm upset I didn't join the army bro. I'm upset. How many rides are you going to tell in a minute? It's one of the greatest regrets in my life I didn't join the army man. It's one of the greatest regrets in my life. I wish I did. Bang bang. I ain't get to bang out on motherfuckers bro. I don't have the chance. I'm too old. My feet are too flat. It's not too late. But I could have banged out on motherfuckers. I'm sick of tired of being sick of tired. It's not too late. You could be ice right now. They raised their age. They taking retards. They taking flat foot. They taking. They taking everything in the shit. That's different. 47 days of training. That's different. That's different. What war would you have been in? Afghanistan? You would have been sent to Afghanistan. I would probably be sent to Afghanistan. You would probably be sent to Afghanistan. over see what the fuck happens this is mongolia property of the united states of america okay i'm the king of mongolia now that's what i would do it's the greatest sign in the world to represent your country i literally googled i was like is there like an old people olympics i'm like i might try this shit just so i can represent the united states of america you should if they bring paddle to it if they got paddle and they have an old olympics i'm in there because all the best players aren't from here i would cheat i just want to let you guys know i would cheat for america how oh in whatever way possible the national senior games often called the senior olympics is a major biennial multi-sport event the u.s athletes in age 50 and older okay so i got eight years of training promoting active aging and camaraderie that's what i'm doing you can do para mark mark you're being rude right now you're being rude right now i'm saying you said you would cheat yo low-key you said you would cheat low-key i don't think like there is a way to make the olympics like if you are committed you could chop some shit off like if you want to if you want to be if you want to represent your country bro you could do both you can you can join the military and then pair back to back wait a minute think about that all your life's regrets dude i could do it you could serve our nation and represent america i wonder if we change we change the age of the army shit now that it's drone warfare oh low it if i'm at home 15 year olds love if i'm at home but the kids it's the nicest ones on a video game yeah but i could i could i could do that come on no you don't think i could do that no come on al look at that oh russian you don't think i could do that you put on twitch i could definitely do that i might start playing call of duty right now just to train yeah white ops that's what they call it so they call this call it during this month yeah white ops no but for real you guys don't feel that patriotism coursing through your veins you don't want to represent your country not for foreign intervention but maybe something here well that's why sports is great yeah that would be cool it would be cool to represent america of course or represent new york but but that's part of her heritage that is fine i would love to represent new york within america and then america outside of america i mean that's the dream i would do new york outside of the knicks imagine you're point guard of the new york knicks but you're also from here and you're in the take your team to a championship like oh to give that joy to that many people and you serve and i served four years 100 yeah yeah oh god guys are you kidding me like i'll be honest you're kind of forced you're describing forrest gump that's my hero that's my hero that's my hero didn't he die of aids that's my hero no jenny did he was so nice he evaded it he was plugging a girl with aids and didn't get it he goes he got it how amazing would my life be bro if i served in the military i came back greatest played a racket sport and he came yeah greatest greatest of all the time help my retarded black friend become wealthy i open a strip no for real dude that is a dream are you kidding me what an honor to represent your country the greatest country in the world yo goo you get your buddy up how is forrest gump not the greatest human being that's ever existed the guy got a 960 on his sat man he can't read just like you okay oh my god look at oh shit that's what i'm saying bro what would his lines be in yo mom always said life was like a bacon egg and cheese yeah life is like a chopped cheese yeah the bodega is like a box of chocolates a hundred percent it's a lot of jenny you need a dominican woman in this situation yo out of new york i can't believe that you guys don't have patriotism coursing through your veins dude uh oh you would have met jfk that's fire i can't believe it you let the communists win huh so you hate america now you fucking hate america dude that's what it is she loves both of her sides there's mom and dad she'll talk shit about america and then they ask you about china she's like no i love it here it's great and doesn't talk shit about what's wrong about china all right doesn't talk about the chinese government at all to my knowledge maybe i'm wrong sorry i lean but also also she won't say whether or not she renounced her u.s citizenship and china doesn't allow dual citizenship so america allows it but china doesn't so they won't exactly say what happened so in order to compete for a country you need to be a citizen so it's very likely that she china either made an exception or she's a citizen and she's a citizen and she's a citizen and she's a citizen for her or she renounced her u.s citizenship isn't that fire if china made an exception for that's pretty dope you get in china to do what you want that's kind of hard that's that's some american shit right there while she holds a chinese passport to compete she's never publicly confirmed she renounced her u.s citizenship and ambiguity noted because china does not officially allow dual citizenship exactly maybe she's a spy so what do you mean maybe no for us oh eileen yeah you see eileen you're trying to blow her eileen my bad yeah eileen my bad this is all part of our design come on we send one of our most brilliant students yes into china infiltrate all their systems eileen shout out you yeah listen i don't even know if we should include this in the podcast i don't even know if we should include it because i don't want them to know yeah oh my god good job eileen yeah all right but now can we talk about alissa liu yeah i don't even know if we should include it because i don't want them to know yeah from the from the bay from the bay this is really sf versus the bay that's really what this is about yo talk if you think about it because we're all making it china versus america it is sf tech silicon valley versus oakland yeah oh okay all right her story's crazy like her dad was a like um a political dissident yes needless to say i don't know exactly what he did i think he was like involved in like the planning of the tiananmen square on which side uh the good guys okay all right here we go yeah he wasn't on well who's the good guys to you uh and then so he dips out to america has five kids by surrogate yeah is he the dude in front of the the tank no no no that was it am i banned no no no might be tank man oh no because i think tank man is part of the cement now didn't they run his ass over i'm pretty sure he lived no he got pulled away they never is that right about him and he moved to america god it could be yeah and i think he specifically wanted a surrogate with a white woman for the max genetic diversity this guy's crazy i don't know if that's can you confirm that that's crazy oh he ain't even fucked i don't think so he got an egg donor there's nothing wrong with that al there's nothing wrong with creating creating a family without having sex with your wife to do it there's nothing wrong with letting doctors take you and your wife's reproductive parts and put the baby together without you yeah you want to rephrase that no you wouldn't anyway uh yeah he got a white donor okay an egg white and uh and but he said he wanted to ensure a diverse gene pool and then married another chinese woman raised their kids in the bay area and uh yeah made a champion tiger dad he got a white egg but then married a chinese lady wow exactly wow boy and then i think divorced her divorced her and then like she's still kind of the mom of the kids like i don't know the exact situation wild boy but yeah and then she becomes like a champion she's like the greatest ever at like 16 years old wins he's world title tiger dad yeah okay okay goes to the last olympics i think she comes in like six or something like that but she was like incredible and then maybe didn't do as well as maybe she thought or america would have hoped for her but at 16 she won like worlds or something she won like an amazing like american honor as a figure skater and then did he choose the gender that's an interesting question maybe that's why he moved out because he wanted a girl at 18 she says you know what this isn't making me happy i'm gonna find myself and she's like the best right yeah she's like at that time she's our hope she's our hope in america she's a great half-white hope she's a great half-white hope yeah yeah no you do this don't don't say white don't say white no no yeah i did it first you said we're claiming her y'all you tried to claim that is all asian the speed in which dub and tanya told us that jack hughes the guy who scored the game winning goal for the u.s and the hockey finals the speed in which that they told us that he was jewish was remarkable that was the first thing i found out before the shot had entered the goal there was already 40 instagram first bot mitts for bar mitts for kids to represent america um i love how they waited until we won the game and then they were like oh my god we're gonna win for that information like it was never at the beginning of olympics like we're really proud okay but uh she goes it takes two years off and she's like i'm just gonna find myself takes two years off this is one this is a sport where like you cannot take days off right like it's insane competition you also have a small window it's not like 40 year old women are winning figure skating right like with two years to go until this olympics i think was it two years ago in this olympics i think so or something of that she basically goes did she compete in the last one she did a little last one she takes two years off and then two years off and then two years off and Two years before this, she goes, "You know what? I think I found my love again for figure skating. Maybe I want to try it again. She goes, I'm going to choose my coaches. My dad's not going to be part of it. He's too tiger dad. I'm going to do it my way. I'm going to have fun with it. And whatever happens, happens. And they were like literally asking her questions. She's like, are you nervous about what's going on? She's like, no, I feel great. Like, this is awesome. Even being here is amazing and I'm going to do my best. Like she is in an interesting way when you compare her with or juxtapose her with Eileen Gu, who's like so media trained, so poised, like clearly brilliant, stunning, beautiful. Very calculated. So calculated, like spy, spy type shit. But she's so free. Like this girl is like pure Americana in the most beautiful way. Like I'm going to take control of my life. I'm going to do what I want with my life. I'm going to seek out the things that I'm interested in doing. And if this thing ends up being something that gives me joy, I'm going to go and chase after it and try to be the best that I ever can be. And it's like, she's just like this. There's this gravitational pull when you see figures like that. And like, there's this love and support. Like all of America is behind this girl. And they've tried to culture war her. She's like, oh, she believes in this. She's woke. But even that doesn't work. You even see like conservatives go, ah, we don't care what she does. It's awesome that she just embodies this beautiful American spirit. And I don't know. I think she might be more successful, make more money, do all the things that Eileen Gu probably would have ended up doing here in America. But I don't think Eileen Gu will ever have like the love or appreciation in America that Alyssa will. I mean, yeah, yeah, she chose up. Yeah, what I'm saying is like Alyssa is an example of like, there is a version where you can embrace this free spirit, this thing that only America allows and be loved simply because you're great at this thing and that this thing doesn't define you completely. Yeah, you know, and it's I think it's something that maybe is unique to us in that way. Like I just watching the world like gravitate to her and this like beautiful free spirit and also like the energy. She was providing the people she was competing with. Like there's these other girls that like this, this like little 17 year old Japanese girl got bronze and she didn't even know like, like if she could be emotional and like she has to like be like, hey, be happy. This is awesome. Like is. Oh, yeah. She's just she's really special. So I'm curious to see what happens. What? No, no, I'm allergic to horrible. You don't like Asian girls? I have horrible allergies. Anyway, so it was very cool to see. Yeah, that's a beautiful story. I didn't know any of this. This is dope. And then she skated at the very end. I know she won the gold, right? Yeah, she comes. Now, did she do any like tricks that no one else can do or they just gave her the award? I think she's one of the few people that can do like a triple triple. So like three spins and then do another three spins right around. But she did this cool thing at the end of her at the end of her thing. Like, I think she knows that she had an awesome run. I don't even know if she knows she's won at this point. Right. Because it's up to the judges. But she skates right up to the camera. And then she goes, that's what I'm fucking talking about. It's like Bay Area energy through and through. Yeah. Her hair is cool. Yeah. That's awesome. I'll agree with you on not doing that. Yeah, send her ass over there. That's the energy. That's the energy. We got to get her paid. That's really what we got to do. She's got it. The billionaires of America to come together and be like, yo, we're going to double whatever I link. She's got to get double. I love that. If she don't, we don't love America. Facts. Ooh. If China's going to bread up our people more than we bread up our people, we don't love America, bro. That is a good point. Like, why? I'm shocked that, like, American companies or something didn't come together and be like, hey, what the fuck is going on here? Like, why don't we get some more sponsorship opportunities for this girl? This girl's going to win gold. She's prolific. Like, why are we going to let? It's a stain. It's a stain on American dominance when we have athletes leaving here to compete in other countries. Yeah. But also, the payment to represent America, it should just be the joy. You know? Ow! You're right. Ow. America, I don't need any money, man. You got a sniper position? You let me go. Put me on a fucking rooftop. Put him on a drone. He's a drone. Put me on a drone. Yeah, it's wearing a diaper, shitting on a roof. I can only imagine it. Yeah. Do you think they diaper up? Oh, they have to. They have to be out there for days. Yeah. Yeah, but the diaper doesn't really do anything. Yeah, you're just sitting with it. That's worse. You don't have kids. No. The second they shit in the diaper, you got to change the diaper. You don't get to just leave it in there for days. Yeah, I mean, they take off the one diaper, but they're up there for days. Yeah, but why would they wear a diaper? You could just drop pants and just. You can't get up. You're laying there for days, pissing it. Roll that bitch off. Shit to the side, hopefully. I think Miles is trying to. He's doing the thing right now. He's like, he's committed to something, and now he's trying to justify it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Are you invoking a fact check? I think, yeah. Let's fact check that. Miles or Alec got a fact check. Let's see. Yo, do the knowledge. Do the knowledge. Do the knowledge, bro. 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For what? For, uh. It's connected to Epstein, but not in the way you'd think. So it's not for all those girls that accused him of rape? No, no, no. I think that was an out-of-course settlement. But, uh, this one was that the royal family just was like, yo, let's Google Prince Andrew's name and see what comes up. And then they realized that when he was the trade envoy, he was giving these secret documents to Epstein. And basically telling Epstein just, like, about his travel whereabouts. And they saw this as improper use of the office. Now. How could that be advantageous to Epstein? Yeah. I don't know if it was done in, like, an official capacity to basically give away trade secrets, or if it's literally like, hey, I'm gonna be in Singapore this weekend. Do you have any women I can meet? And by saying that he's in Singapore, he's giving away confidential information. So basically, they're kind of getting him on, like, a technicality to get him arrested based off of what's in the files. So basically, there's not enough in the files to lock him up forever. Or, if you lock him up forever for what's in the file, it looks way worse on the royal family. You know, the family's really done with this guy, so. He's been controversial for, like. Because that's something easy you could fight that. Like, they. I guess the argument could be, like, if he's part of the trade envoy, that he would be privy to certain information, you know, financial information. For example, like, the government's about to make a big investment in some, like, military firm or whatever. And if you gave that to a hedge fund, if you gave that to a guy like Epstein, he could make a big bet on that. before it happens. which it seems like a lot of that was happening with these figures yeah you know which is uh the uh the myth of meritocracy which is this is one of my one of the the positive things that has been exposed through the epstein files is that all these people that are making all this money you know uh investing in companies like as if they're using like this great due diligence to choose the company it's like no it's not you just know the deal that's going to happen before it fucking happens it's pelosi type shit but this is we knew that this is what very wealthy and successful people were doing it's nice that it's exposed because then it lets us go oh yeah you're not fucking smarter than any of us you just have the answers to the test you know so there is something like now how do we get them to stop doing that i don't know but we also don't have to let them finger wag us at all about you gotta work hard you gotta i worked for 60 hours a week in a trading desk to build it you did none of that shit you called your fucking rich friend he said that the british government is investing in this company you put a lot of fucking money in it or the british government is pulling money out of this company you shorted it you guys aren't smarter you have the answers yeah there's a lot of countries that are like that where meritocracy is not really prioritized at all it's classist and hierarchical that's just the way it is yeah in america the issue is that we tout ourselves as being meritocratic the cream rises to the top if you work hard you can be successful and that's probably more true here than most places but with that said it's not as meritocratic as a lot of people kind of believe any business that can sustain nepotism is cheating any business where like your kids can take it over and it still works you're cheating because you can't guarantee the level of ambition intelligence of your kids you need some sort of competitive advantage you might be the smartest guy you might be the steve jobs but steve's job's kid might be a fucking retard but if the company manages to continue with them at the helm you're cheating in some way what if you were grooming this kid for this position i know bad choice yeah but like at a very young age so it's like they just have so much knowledge to do this position more than the average person hung out with rich people's kids no they're all drug addicts and idiots like the majority of them are drug addicts and idiots right but they got the answers to the test you know or the connections are there where they can have certain access to certain things yeah but look at baron he's killing it in the prediction yeah how the fuck is that what the hell he does with that computer doing tricks with that computer i heard an interesting thing did i text you this i can't remember if i did but it was this guy alan du baton he's like an author he's a youtube guy philosopher he did a pod with chris williamson where he's talking about the difference between in america you have this story where meritocracy wins but it's not exactly the case in the way it's represented and as a result it creates a victim culture and like a blame culture specifically in america because if there's this story like hey if you succeed that's because you worked hard and you're successful and if you work hard you can succeed then the inverse is also true where if you fail and you're a failure it's because you didn't work hard and you're actually not smart and you're a loser and then that creates this paradigm where people are like no i've failed i worked really hard and i still failed and so then they go who did this to me and then there's finger pointing and blaming yeah which maybe it's helpful maybe it's not but it comes from that place where you're a victim and you're a loser and you're a loser where they were sold this bill of goods about meritocracy that didn't actually hold up yeah it's interesting it's almost like uh if you knew the system was set up to support the uh the nepo babies or the the class or the cast of people that are at the top maybe you wouldn't have that much resentment for it or the resentment or their success wouldn't prove you to be someone who doesn't work hard yeah hierarchical societies i think are more like yeah this is what it is yeah yeah they get all that shit and they get wealthy and that's the game and they're not gaslighting you whereas we kind of gaslight a little bit yeah why aren't you working hard enough man yeah why aren't you grinding more dude i feel like black people probably knew this yeah yeah people like us like i knew it too like i yeah we're not so different you know i mean i knew about this i can't read white people are just finding out the system is against them too i know they are fucking pissed off that's the thing that's most interesting to see and i think i think the right thing to do for black people right now is to be like keep going oh yeah yeah we're not fighting back don't fight you're almost like oh you're getting it now yes you're like you're black too yeah you just didn't realize it it's being hard for you guys to buy houses it's hard for a lot of things it's like oh school is expensive yeah yeah yeah this is how this is what got us out of vietnam yeah it's like they started drafting white kids white people were like what the fuck is happening over there yeah yeah no i am glad to see it i am noticing and i'm just come on guys we're gonna come together yeah some heads need to roll whoa hell come on i mean you gotta chill with that dude legally legally yeah i mean they do what happens who who what is enough for people to go okay we've gotten some sort of justice luigi luigi what he gets off no i just think he just needs to go on our oh jesus i joke i joke i kid guys like i get no i don't want that no that's actually smart you said the exact opposite yeah that's actually really good no who needs to get arrested who needs to go down where people go okay all right i well we were talking about this a little yesterday i think it's twofold okay where i think you need some key arrests of like the people that we the american public strongly feels implicated so long as that they're actually guilty they get arrested there's an actual trial all the discovery is done we figure out what was actually happening whether the united states or the states intelligence is implicated or not all the co-conspirators are arrested do we have names for that i mean people throw out wexner a lot but again he hasn't been charged with any crime i don't want to no but they named the co-conspirators they they named some of them like rocana massey yeah i thought they named the ones that were public years yeah that were like let off during the first initial thing in 2008 so it's like take down these place to look yeah and then so long as they're proven guilty yeah in like a legitimate court that's great but then on top of that i do think you need to raise the economic conditions and that people can't feel so pinched economically they can't feel like their their future is so hopeless and that's probably i mean that's a way bigger issue but like housing prices and health care and all that shit i think needs to come into the fray in order for people to feel like really satisfied because i do think a lot of this is emblematic of that frustration it's rightly placed anger yeah but it is i think just a small portion of the overall economic issue that everyone's feeling yeah it's like there's no distraction you can't be distracted when you're starving now i'm not saying the people in america are starving but the feeling like there's the starvation of hope and uh you're going to point to the people who have stuff and then when it looks like all these people who have stuff are implicated in this horrendous scheme now you have a perfect justification to hate them you already hated them because you're broke you can't afford a house you can't afford college and you can't afford health care and you're like these guys are fucking involved in some way i know i don't know why but fuck them and then you have this story that breaks where whether or not everybody's involved we don't know but enough people are involved and it looks like they're taking care of each other and protecting each other and it's just like nah no no no no yes exactly like we're recording this tuesday tonight is the uh state of the union and i'm actually curious to see which direction trump goes with this like i wonder if he's just going to gaslight and be like yeah stock market's up everything's good i like i wonder because that hasn't been working for him like it's really hasn't been working his approval rating is at the lowest it's ever been yeah so it's like i wonder if he's maybe just has a real talk with the american people i doubt it but yeah i doubt it let's see what cow she says about yeah i don't i don't even know i'm telling people are getting upset with his gaslighting shit yeah yeah but i think like i bet you i would love to look this up but i bet you after the french revolution there were some people that were like all right we killed marion twinette we fucking chomped her head off and then they were still poor and starving they were like well it didn't solve all my problems you know like i think that there's you need twofold you need to actually hold the powerful people accountable yeah and then create a system where the poorest people in the country are not feeling like they're taken advantage of but that is a thing where like and we talked about this with mangione it's like the people who have the money and power they can only squeeze the american people whatever country it is so much before revolution yeah and like you know the french revolution is a great example of that it's like well this is what happens when you squeeze them yeah and then the next person in charge goes okay guys they're getting to the point of this level of squeezing where our heads start getting chopped off we have to do something they're a term for that the uh noblesse oblige what does that mean that's like the obligation of the nobles that and they have to do some stuff to make everyone happy also the the the the framing of that this is our obligation no no this keeps you alive this keeps you alive because people will show up at your house with pitchforks if you take too much you can only squeeze people too much the problem is they still do a great job of keeping us fighting against each other a hundred percent so it's like hey they keep squeezing but they keep finding a way hey yell at your neighbor and ignore what we're doing up here and i don't know if that's ever going to change exactly no because we like yelling yeah you make a lot of money on youtube by yelling and just infighting non-stop you know and that's that's so i don't know if that's what gets close i don't know if that's what gets close to what you're doing but i don't know if that's what gets close to what you're doing but i don't know if that's what gets close to what you're doing but i don't know if that's what gets close to what you're doing but i don't know if that's what gets close to what you're doing but i don't know if that's what gets close to what you're doing but i don't know if that's what gets close to what you're doing but i don't know if that's what gets close to what you're doing you know what i mean 100 flat screen no they just make the tvs cheaper so you feel oh got it got it you got a roku and you're watching tv and you're like i got a million different channels dude yeah you don't need to come on you're gonna protest when night of the seven kings was on season finale remember when they were season finale trash yeah it was trash but remember when they were about to crack down on sharing the passwords oh yeah and then all the nobles came together and they're like they're gonna kill us if we stop them from doing it just let them share the fucking passwords so we can live and make billions of dollars like there's a perfect example because i think that password should went away real quick yeah right we're gonna we're gonna stop you guys from sharing passwords so we can make another 11 bucks per person no no no and then people were like all right who's the ceos what's yeah so yeah it's uh that part's frustrating what do you guys think about that wexner deposition oh there's a couple funny clips like it's interesting seeing powerful people in positions where they're getting fucked up like that's awesome like seeing like these attorneys like just like rip him is awesome and seeing his attorney try to like course correct so i mean this is the part that went viral is basically telling him like hey shut the fuck up i mean because he's just answering they're like so what was your relationship with the glenn maxwell he's like oh yeah i knew it pretty well you know we did and like he's like he's like talking and the lawyer's like dude shut the what are you doing yeah is there no curiosity in that lawyer what do you mean like if i was wexner's lawyer i would be sitting there going i'll just fucking say it all i'm gonna know he knows all the shit you think he's aware of that's why he's like yo shut the fuck up privilege he knows all the stuff so there are people that know all the stuff that aren't even involved there are people that know like the murder cases and they just have to die with it and then a lot of not a lot they don't have to they don't have to there's so many people in the fbi right now that have gone through all of those files unredacted well we have a chair and it's right here and if any of them would love to be a true american patriot if you want a gold medal for being an american patriot you can sit down around this podcast and tell us all about it i hope there'll be a whistleblower about how is there not yeah like how they would die immediately there's nobody who wants a gossip there's nobody who wants a gossip there's nobody who wants a gossip you want to just be at the bar with the boys watching the game you're like yo like this is crazy epstein was and then he hung himself with his own hands he wanted to get to gossip you saw you saw what uh nancy mace tweeted today oh yeah nancy mace congressman said uh we are not uh sure that epstein killed himself see like that that's the type of shit that's like stop doing that why agree to cooperate and kill yourself yeah that's a good point because the idea was he was cooperating yeah and i think that's been confirmed he'd already begun that process so it makes sense that they killed him once he agrees to cooperate well they say hey if you i get the distinction i'm making is like they gave him a window where they could he could kill himself or hey we're gonna come in and murder you or hey we're gonna come in and torture you or you can just kill yourself right now and have a good you're out but is it easier to convince him to do it than to send in a whole team middle of the night turn off all the cameras under the whole prison that's the other thing i was wondering couldn't you look at the camera at the front of the prison what you mean there's cameras all throughout the prison the one in front of his cell died that's the one that went out yeah so could we look at the camera from the hallway over why are we trying to solve it like the camera went out yeah obviously in a movie nobody would believe it and the guards fell about two guards asleep yeah and they falsified their rounds records and guys every camera just stops recording for a minute you don't know that yeah every camera you know what i'm saying like if this was in a movie people would be like guys what are the chances that all this happens like it wouldn't be believable yeah so once the camera goes out once the guards are asleep i could maybe believe the guards are asleep yep how are we not investigating them how is there not a a timeline going minute by minute through their last three months going through every email every phone call they ever did how are they not on this podcast like how are we not sitting down we could probably get one of the guards you probably know they do find out real talk finally yeah find out how much they pay for their malibu homes because there's a hundred percent they got a nice chunk of change to just have no clue what the fuck happened if they were actually sleeping it is kind of funny like imagine they woke up and they're like wait what what's going on and they're like wait what epstein killed himself nobody's gonna believe me like right like they whether whether they slept or not nobody will ever believe them again yeah and if they are guys they're like ceos these are not guys that like are built to keep secrets forever like you work with these guys right it's not like okay a guy that has been groomed to be in the cia since they're 18 years old yeah maybe he's a secret keeper yeah a ceo can't wait to talk some shit yeah like people know yeah we got to check if he's paid if he's not paid then every other ceo knows what happened even if he's paid they know oh yeah possibly because they're your friends you're still playing with them you're still playing with them you're still playing with them playing in a fucking basketball league with them like it's not like yeah but they would get jealous that they didn't get any money so then they would snitch so that you if you could if you took money you can't tell anybody son we gotta know somebody that knows them and 100 they said something that's why them being asleep is like the most realistic and maybe they drugged him or some shit like i don't know but like there's no way those two guys are keeping secrets there's no way you're gonna go back to being a ceo i mean what if they what if they extort them they go hey here's the money to keep your mouth shut and if you ever tell someone about this yeah these people are gone we know where you live we know where your kids let me tell you something new yorkers can't keep a secret we can't keep information that's valuable we're just not capable of doing once we know some shit we're telling everybody we're telling everybody yeah it's not even a question yeah it's in our soul we don't make for good like intelligence agents no no that's a good point that's it no we're telling everybody i'm shocked they haven't been on every single i'm shocked they haven't had a vlad interview the sat down with vlad is crazy vlad vlad you've been cooking that's the interview yeah it's crazy to me that is crazy we don't even know their names no i think we do what are their names uh looks like it's tova noel tova michael thomas tova yeah hold on a second that's not real bruh yeah i'm the two guys i never seen a tova down there but tell you that tova noel and michael thomas fell asleep at their desk for about three hours and then they later falsified their related records tell you who's tova noel i'm telling you i've seen a lot of co's i ain't never seen a tova down there yeah yeah hold on well tova noel is all right all right nah he's like a is it the girl or the guy is tova noel i think the woman would be tova yeah the guy is michael thomas oh that's different but oh alice on a different yeah different women names women names is crazy like we know for some yeah yeah i thought we did i thought we sold it right there i thought she was a little darker than i thought that's tove that's tove yeah yeah yeah i see it i'm okay all right yeah we gotta figure out what we got something i thought we were almost there like nobody else i think they went to trial like i think they got charged and then for what uh they got charged you telling me she hasn't told everybody at the fucking jamaican spot you're telling me that when she goes and get her a little oxtail some fucking rice and peas she's not saying low-key hey that motherfucker didn't kill himself we let them go in we said they were going to kill they were sleeping like come on no that's honest woman right there she takes some money and shuts up she's honest it might be enough to make them shush how much does that have to be a few mil but if they get a few mil people know few mil 50 thou if they get enough people know if they buy one thing people are gonna know yeah you think they just drugged him impossible or do you think they got the two sleepiest ceos and then they put them in there that night like nah these guys are out we have a two-hour window where a nuclear bomb could go off and these motherfuckers ain't waking up and it's crazy because he was on like suicide watch right no i think he was taken off oh took him off yeah that's why they say like it's yeah they killed his ass thanksgiving dinner yeah the tryptophan what do they call that again what the itis oh yeah the itis you can't say that i didn't say it you just said it you just said it i didn't say no i was bleeped it i heard you say yeah bro that's so funny i wonder yeah we got to get them on we definitely got to sit down with them we got to that's that's a great that's a great conversation come on tova tova we need you girl come on pull up and michael thomas we need you do you know because he died his charges were yeah that's crazy really oh yeah you never got convicted yeah that makes sense wow it's just just crazy the end of that sentence It's just crazy, dude. We don't know he's dead. True. In late 2021, feds dropped charges against the two Bureau of Prison Guards responsible for monitoring Epstein on the night of his death. Tova might need to come on. You're just like him. New Yorker. From New York. They had to perform community service. You've been taking naps. I'm not putting a nap by anybody. Especially if you're working an overnight. What time did they kill him? They found him at 6.30 the next morning, so overnight. 2 a.m., 3 a.m.? I'm not going to do that. That's something I'm not going to do. You're just like him, bro. You love a nap. I like a nap. That being said, I feel like you would hear it. I feel like you would hear somebody killing themselves. You think it'd be complete silence? Yeah, I mean, he's not fighting it. Yeah. Well, eventually your body fights it. It's like, you ever hold your breath underwater and then. Yeah, because you don't want to die. How close is that? You think that you could go underwater? You think you could drown yourself in a bathtub? No, I mean, I don't want to die. If you wanted to, you think you could drown yourself in a bathtub? People do this with auto-erotic asphyxiation. No, that's to nut. They want to nut. Yeah, but then they get too close and then their switch doesn't take them off and then they die. No, that doesn't happen. How do they die? A fucking Mossad agent comes in. That's how he dies. How else do you think that happens? Imagine if he was just trying to get a nut off. Right? What, both of them? No, Elfstein. Maybe he's just, you know, he's in jail, too. He hasn't had no little kids around in a while. Yeah. He might have just tried to get one off. He's got to save women. I forgot. What? They're going to say, oh, he didn't have any, like, women around. He's been around. Nah, he had no little kids. Yeah. He's a jerky little egg dick. Yeah, that's a good point. He got an egg-shaped dick. That's what they say. Yeah. Who else has an egg-shaped dick? Yeah, you also, you got a little egg on you. Nah, I don't know. Mine's more like a bat, you know? Have you guys seen the timeline for the death of Epstein? No. What is it? They say they find him shortly after 6.30 a.m. Someone is heard screaming, someone is heard screaming, screaming, breathe, Epstein, breathe, and an alarm is rung at 6.30. They're saying his last name? They're saying his last name, in fact. All right. At 6.33 a.m., he's at the hospital and pronounced dead by 6.39. So they got him to the hospital in six minutes, and he was dead? Hmm. That seems short. In nine minutes, they find him, CPR, in a hospital, pronounced dead. And didn't they send him out the wrong exit with some boxes, remember? Well, somebody said that they tricked the crowd or whatever. Yeah. In nine minutes? Yeah. Guys. They also consequently failed to photograph Epstein's body as it was found. Guys, we don't have to -- we know they killed him. Like, there's no question in my mind that they killed him. I don't know he's dead. I'm not convinced he's dead. Yeah. Or he's not dead. Yeah. It's one of those two. Yeah, I think it's definitely one of those. I was like, 1% he's not dead, and it's gone up to like 5%, maybe 10. Oh, you're only there? Yeah. I thought you'd be higher. No, I just think they could take him out. Like, they're just like, "Yeah, who cares? We should get rid of him." Yeah, like, what value is he alive? That's why I don't understand why -- I thought he had kill switches. I figured they found all the kill switches, and that's why they were able to take him out. Because if they didn't, we would have had the kill switches. Or he's not dead. And we are keeping him alive just because he has the kill switches? Yeah. So why wouldn't they put him into a black box room and start fucking chipping away at his toes until he said where the kill switches were? That's happening right now. And we're still waiting? I don't know. He's got 10 toes. That's a lot of toes. Yeah, a lot of toes. He didn't even think about that. No, it takes time. Or give him that truth serum. Oh. And somebody was slipping stuff to Wall Street Journal. Well, wait. What happened with the Wall Street Journal? You know, like the birthday book? They got that shit before the government put that out. He would have his own birthday book. Birthday book, perfect example. Trump got a signed note to Epstein, a birthday book. They asked Trump about it, he's like, "I don't even believe in birthdays." Yeah. Do you know what I mean? It's just like, it's like so much- He says, "I don't draw," or some shit like that. Yeah. It's like, "Not only is that not real, it's not mine, and I've never owned a pen." Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said he didn't write it. Yeah. And then they asked Wexner about the birthday book. He goes, "Yeah, I wrote that." Oh, really? Wexner kind of sold out Trump. Yeah. And then it was, one of the funny things, they were like, "All right, so was Epstein your friend?" He was like, "He was never my friend. This guy used me." And he goes, "Oh, well, when you signed the birthday book, what is this drawing here?" And he's like, "It's boobs." And they're like, "Okay." And they're like, "And why did you sign it, 'Your friend, Leslie'?" And he goes, "I don't know why I said that. He was never my friend." He's so nice. It's like, bro. He's a motherfucker. How did you not anticipate this coming up? You called him your friend a bunch of times. That's why the lawyer's like, "Yo, shut the fuck up." Yeah. Yeah, say nothing. You saw how some people were taking that as like, "Yo, that's his handler." And he's like, "Yo, if you don't shut the fuck up, I'm really going to kill you." Nah, I don't know. There's some people who say it that way. I mean, sure. No. It's way more fun to look at it that way. The lawyer is your handler, low-key. Yeah. When you're in the courtroom, that is your handler. Yeah. But on some real shit. Like, "Yo, I'm going to kill you if you say the wrong thing after this." No, I don't think that attorney is going to murder Leslie Wexner. But somebody will. Yeah. Yup. Someone will. If he starts talking too much. Yeah. Yeah. Someone will. I mean, that's just. Yeah, it's crazy. And then apparently the dude in Norway tried to kill himself. Oh, yeah. The ex-prime minister of Norway who was connected to Epstein in the files through emails and stuff. He tried to kill himself? Yeah. This is like a day ago or something. And those guards didn't fall asleep. They found him. Oh, he's locked up. Oh, shit. Yeah. Can you fact check this? This is all I have in a day. I don't know this super well. Oh, wow. I didn't hear about this one. That's crazy. Something from NPR came out this morning at like 3:00 AM about Trump files being pulled from the. Things mentioning Trump being pulled from the Epstein list also. Oh, yeah. Tons. Allegedly. 54 pages. Allegedly, this girl, 13-year-old girl who claims that she raped her. He raped her. That he raped her. The FBI interviewed her like four times. And then. He raped her. He raped her. And then, miraculously, three of the interviews have disappeared. And the one that's left, she doesn't mention Trump. And there's an interview with the mother also. Was there a conclusion based on the FBI interviewing her? And then which FBI interviewed her? Is it the current FBI or is the one from past administrations? No, this happened in '86 or '89 maybe. Yeah. Wow. And the conclusion. I just want to make sure. And the conclusion after those three interviews was that she was credible or she was not? We don't know. Got it. But to interview her four times, that's usually a crazy like, "Wow, this bitch is great." What I would say is that if this was in the '80s, they don't give a fuck about Donald Trump. He's still kind of making. Again, I'm not trying to defend him. What I'm trying to say is he's not in a position of power where the FBI and the real power brokers in the '80s are like, "Oh, we got to protect him." Unless there's something we don't know. Yes. Unless he's aware of this even from way back in the day. Or unless Epstein's like, "Yo, that's my guy. Don't come after him right now because I'm working him." Unless. That's a good point. That's interesting. Hmm. Also, apparently there was a report that came out that the U.S. government helped Epstein travel after his conviction. So in 2008, he gets convicted and that affects his ability to travel. And then apparently there's certain emails that he has governmental access in order to travel. And people once again are like. This is just more intelligence proof that the government is facilitating his foreign travel, giving him clearances and shit. This is just some random article that I saw. I mean, I think it was credible, but. It is really interesting that. There's nothing there, guys. No, no, of course it's a hoax. There's nothing there, but like. Assertions? What was it? Inferences. Inferences. It's just inferences. But it is really interesting, though, that they would release all of this and redact. One, it makes you go, "What the fuck is redacted?" Because there's already so much shit that is incriminating enough that bare minimum, the inference you can make is that he has incredible leverage and power that is unjustified by anything in the emails. In other words, like, the power is there. Why are these banks using him as an intermediary? Why are wealthy people using him as an intermediary? What type of leverage does he have? But there's no justification in the emails as to why he has this leverage or power. Mm-hmm. And clearly, if we understood that, it kind of solves everything. Yeah. Yeah. Now, it doesn't solve why he likes children. He's a fucking creep. And why all these other people might be into it as well. But the leverage and power, I think, is the thing that solves. I think the internet and obviously us are just like, "Holy shit, all these incredibly powerful people are into like having sex with children." I also think they're probably above-age prostitutes that they're banging as well. I don't know. I don't think they're above-age prostitutes that they're banging as well. I don't subscribe to this idea that they're all like, "No, we want them to be this specific age." Yeah, I'm sure there's some creeps that are into it, but like if he's throwing fuck parties, I don't know. But if he's throwing fuck parties, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. on an island you know i don't know if bill gates is rattling off emails they have to be 16 years old yeah i don't think that but again this is what is the most salacious the most abhorrent the most you know just diabolical but i do think you solve the reason for his leverage and then everything starts to make sense yeah yeah but nobody and no one can thwart that i've seen certain people like you know try to make arguments they're like oh the pedophile ring is overblown and there's nothing really there to substantiate it and meaning this global black male pedophile ring i've seen people make these arguments which is like you're fucking brave right now to be the guy defending jeffrey epstein but none of those people can justify his power leverage i haven't heard anybody yeah and the fact that you've got a former prime minister of a massive powerful country yeah killing himself or trying to kill himself to get away from whatever is going to come up in these files to me it's like ah they're all guilty yeah like they did some fucking crazy shit any of this like because even i would try to be the shame of fucking hookers that's the thing i don't think that that's enough right and then even like the insider trading state secrets i'm like probably not like it has to be some real fucked up shit to make you want to off yourself or to make trump want to release ufo files i'm like they got something yeah something the second you're like yo guys aliens are real it's like oh shit yeah they did something bad dude trump hates aliens and he's like dude it got the aliens i'm like come on dude that's it's a bad look it's a bad bad situation yeah he tried to kill himself yeah i think we got an interview on the pot right next to tova right next to tova in the well he could be a potential kitty fucker i don't want to talk to him that's a good point yeah that's a good point that's a good ass point yeah you're protecting us yeah you guys gotta careful you platform guys i just can't i just can't imagine i just can't imagine europeans care that much about banging hookers they care way more than we apparently care because they're punishing their motherfuckers no meaning like yeah it must be something else because simply like fucking cheating on your wife or whatever isn't that like a european way of life like isn't that again that's just kind of i don't see how my wife that she moved here for a reason i just see us taking it uh societally much more serious than they do even if that's a stereotype but like the french you know the spanish the italians like i don't see them maybe in the scandinavian countries a little different but like i don't see them like thinking that having like a a little side piece is like that antithetical to their culture whereas like in america it's like taboo you shouldn't do that not saying we don't but it's it's enough it's a taboo this is bad so it's like if they're killing themselves over like extramarital affairs it's hard for me to believe fuck some kids some shit went down yeah yeah allegedly they have a whole city for prostitution yeah it's like a normalized thing there yeah they're deviant people like they're not like god-fearing good people it's like that's why the that's why we left puritans that's why you wouldn't represent them in the olympics for 50 million dollars how much never no 100 no no definitely not okay guys uh listen let's talk about the mexico thing yes on patreon we'll do it on patreon we're going to patreon right now patreon.com slash flagrant we'll see you guys over there peace out at kroger we love helping you save with pickup and delivery right now you can save even more on fresh favorites with exclusive online deals like kroger brand 80 20 select packages of ground beef for just 3.99 a pound and fresh strawberries for only 1.99 a pound plus get 20 off your first online order of 75 or more restrictions apply c-site for details download the app or visit our website to get started kroger 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Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The conversation debates whether a Tourette's-related outburst at a BAFTA award show constitutes racism, with participants arguing that involuntary tics don’t justify offensive language.
  2. A central claim is that the incident may have been a deliberate act of racism, not a tic, especially given the timing and context of the outburst at a Black-focused event.
  3. The group discusses the absurdity of assuming Tourette’s sufferers are inherently "bad" or "uncontrollable," suggesting that such behavior can be misunderstood or misrepresented.
  4. The discussion turns to code-switching in politics, using Gavin Newsom’s remarks as a case study to critique performative authenticity and racial insensitivity.
  5. There’s a strong argument that athletes, especially in sports like hockey, are unfairly targeted in culture wars, with their personal and professional lives politicized.
  6. The conversation highlights Eileen Gu’s decision to represent China over the U.S., raising questions about national loyalty, athlete identity, and financial incentives.
  7. A recurring metaphor involves siamese twins and incest to illustrate how deeply ingrained or taboo desires can be, used to critique the idea of self-identity and taboo intimacy.
  8. The group ultimately concludes that while Tourette’s is involuntary, the societal reaction—especially the potential for offense—should not be dismissed, and the responsibility lies with institutions like the BBC for how such events are framed.

Summary:

The discussion centers on a controversial incident at a BAFTA awards show where a presenter reportedly yelled a racial slur, sparking debate over whether this was a genuine Tourette’s tic or a deliberate racist act. Participants argue that involuntary tics do not excuse offensive language, and the timing—during a show with a Black audience—suggests possible racial insensitivity. They emphasize that Tourette’s is a medical condition, not a license for bigotry, and that society should not blame individuals for being offended by such behavior.

, Gavin Newsom’s remarks), where performance and authenticity are questioned, and athletes being unfairly politicized during events like the Olympics. , raising ethical questions about national identity, financial incentives, and athlete loyalty. The group critiques how culture wars target athletes, especially in sports, and how personal narratives are over-politicized.

Ultimately, they conclude that while Tourette’s is involuntary, the societal response—especially from media and institutions—should be more mindful of its impact on marginalized communities. The discussion underscores the complexity of interpreting disability, race, and political performance, and calls for greater accountability in how such moments are framed and judged.

FAQs

No, Tourette's is not inherently linked to racism. The condition involves involuntary tics, not deliberate offensive speech. However, when a person with Tourette's makes a racist comment, it is still considered offensive, and the context matters.

No, individuals with Tourette's are not held responsible for their involuntary tics. The condition is a neurological disorder, and the comments are not a result of intent or willful action.

People found the comments offensive because they were inappropriate, especially in a context like a Black-led award show, and because they could be perceived as racially insensitive or mocking.

Yes. Tourette's involves involuntary tics, while intentional racism is a deliberate act of discrimination or offense. The two are fundamentally different in nature and intent.

Not necessarily. While some may have incidents, Tourette's does not mean a person will always make offensive remarks. Many people with Tourette's lead normal, respectful lives.

No. Blaming or punishing people with Tourette's for involuntary tics is unjust. The focus should be on understanding the condition and respecting individuals' experiences.

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