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That's when the summer was officially over, didn't it? But I think the teachers do that on purpose, like this is in Jersey. They go back a week and then they knock the rust off, they got to take a little 40 a week in whatever it is, then they get back to the think of things. Not even this week, next week, really. Wait, did your daughter go to colleges here? She did. Holy moly! Yeah. Guacamole. How is that? Oh no, man. Crazy separation anxiety. Is it a boy and girl school? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that first week is usually fucking crazy. No. It's crazy separation anxiety. First week. My first week. Man. That shit was crazy. I don't worry about that. That's a great phrase. No, you shouldn't worry about anything, but there is a dad that should, because man, those girls were going crazy. Nothing you can do at this point. Nothing you could do. We did a lot. Nothing you can do. No worries. You got a few. You got 15 years. I know, but we won't be doing a part by this. Yeah. It ain't the part that you got to get rid of about, you know? I'm worried about you. No, okay. No, but she's okay. Everything's fine. Yeah. I mean, only thing you have as a father is like severe separation anxiety. Yeah. Yeah. Like unbelievable separation. They caught her alive. Oh yeah. Really? I've spoken to her more in the past month than I ever did in my life on the phone. You know what I'm saying? Like texting, calling. Like it's not even close. Like yeah. And it feels good. Yeah. As a father, that's all you want. You just want to still feel needed. You want to still feel needed? That's it. Yeah. That's all it is. But eventually she's going to have to find somebody. I mean, I hope she finds somebody good. That guy, whoever that person is is going to have a tall task ahead of them. No, but yeah. But like you find a few until you find your guy like maybe you're trying to get killed. No. What? You don't think he'd be torturing me? That's the life. To not accept the fact that you know, you do realize the woman you are with is a somebody's daughter, right? He's been. The woman you're married to is somebody's daughter. Somebody's daughter. Like your mother is somebody's daughter. My mother is somebody. Like you've been saying this though. I know that. I'm right. Listen. I understand it. I get it. Like sorry. Every woman out here is somebody's daughter. Exactly. The question is a lot of white guys at this school, right? Are you ready next? Not this Thanksgiving. Like this. It's not happening. Next Thanksgiving. It's not happening. Show. Show. That one I'm not working on. You're crazy. Am I crazy? Yeah, yeah. You're crazy. That's white guy. So wait, do you think that for Thanksgiving? For Thanksgiving. Two years. She said he had to be attracted to them though. No, but it's not happening. You don't think she's going to bring home a cracker? No. No. She's going to come back to all that door. No. She was boy. You don't think that he's going to bring-- It's not happening. She's going to bring home a maca. No. I don't. How you had those conversations with her though? Yes. So she got to be with a black guy. She's not sure. I let her hear Dr. Lamar's speeches. She's talking to Omar. Don't listen to Dr. Lamar. Listen, she was the age of four. Don't put Dr. Lamar here. You're a ball. What, what, okay. She's good. She's going to an HBCU? No. Your daughter? No. So the statistics will probably be in white guys-- That's not true. That's not true. It's black people in the school. I went to all white schools. I'm saying statistics. A PWI. No, yeah. But if that isn't the next-- The typically there's more white people in the world. In America. I'm going to be in South-- In America. In America. She's going to be in-- Why are you going to America? Just remember, we are the minority. She's going to be in-- And we've done it-- In the world. In the world. We're being a minority in the world. We have done exceptional-- In America. As a minority, I just want to say we've done a fantastic job. Picking ourselves up our bootstraps as minorities. Right, Chris? Thanks. Sorry, man. What does it feel like-- What does it feel like to begin an interview by Charlotte? What? Because that's what this is. Because this is-- No. All on Avengers Attack on you. And I'm showing y'all how to handle it. Because it don't bother me. See, the problem is it would bother all of y'all. Yeah, what? I know. It could don't bother me. If she said-- If she said that shit to me, shit. I say worse. I'm like-- I fully-- I fully embrace life. I really don't give a fuck. But that's what you have to do in personal. When your child goes off-- To rap. Let go. It's over. It's part of it. And it helps me to parent my other three better. Because I probably was too much of a micro manager. And now I'm forced to let go. Like, you're like, aw. But also, it's going to come freely. Like, how I talk to-- Well, I'm talking to my dad about everything single thing. But he knows, like-- To me. I'm saying, like, I'm not talking to him about-- About what? I'm talking about dating guys. Why are you talking about college? Why are you not talking about majors? And what you're going to be in life? Why do you-- Why are you going to date-- I don't remember. But no, you got-- I'm telling you, the craziest thing about college. And there's a bunch of fathers out there that go through it. It's funny when you do it. At Chris was going through it last year. It's worse this year. Wait, why? Why? It's a sophomore year, why? But you-- What? Last year, my daughter had real bad separations. She wanted to come home after her first-- You didn't have it? You didn't have it? She-- I'm out of here on coming home like a weekend. How far is school? L.A. Across the country. Oh. And I was like, trust me. You're going to be happy for about 30 seconds when you come home. Then I'm going to start charging rent for you-- Your half of the bedroom. Yeah. You're going to be miserable. You're going to be under so much pressure to get a job. You got to stick it out. So when I was telling Sara before, his daughter, when I was like, I know how hard it is. But actually, the worst version is them not being happy there. That's what's-- And my life was miserable for like-- Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. She was crying every day. I don't fit in. I'm upset. I'm depressed. Along the story short, she's stuck it out. She loves it now. She's very happy there. So this year, I was kind of like relaxed. And then I realized, oh, God, I really fucking miss her. Yeah, now you miss me. I see that before. Yeah. But that's what I had. I got separation anxiety now. Like even when you talk-- Like, guys and stuff is the least of your worries. You know, what you concerned about is just her period. You're being alone. Guys, it's the only worries. Yeah. No, you're bugging. No, no, no, no, no. This is real fun. The most important thing is you-- Of course, we're horny, miss. You want your kids to tell you-- I worried about safety. Yeah. I'm not thinking about them. They were-- They were-- No, wait. They were-- It was insane. But does she-- Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Get away if she has what? Did you know if she had her first, like, alcohol or anything like that? I'm not-- Stuff like that. Yeah. Don't worry about it. I heard about it, I heard about it, I heard about it, I heard about it, I heard about it, I heard about it, I heard about it, I heard about it about something else. Like you got to think when you have been with a person their whole life. - Their whole life. - Like 18 years. - I don't know, just that you've been protecting them for 18 years. - You think it is so much work. - She's not. She just don't understand because she don't have an older child. - No, wait. I'll tell you something. - Why? - I went to a party school and these girls were. - I'm not talking about the whole of you. - No, no, it's her deal, get it. Like that's it. - I'm not talking about it. - That's crazy. - That's the light shit. - You were like, get out of here. - That's too horny. - We're not worried about that. - I'm not. - I'm literally not talking about party. - Safety. - Yeah. - Exactly. I know. - That's literally it is. - I know, you're gonna have to deal with it at a time. - This is what's really tough. It's coming summer when they come home from school and now there's no more curfew. - Oh, yeah. - So I have got to go out. - She's at 4 a.m. - Oh. - Waking up at 3 a.m. 3.30, like where the fuck is she? - Where was she? - She was at a club. - What club? - I don't know, but then I go to my app and I see that now it's 5.30 a.m., 6.00 a.m. They're at the same place and I'm like hold on. This place is shut down. There's no way these kids are in there still and if they're still in there, something bad's happening. So I get all my shit together. - The go. - The go. - Thank you. - I tell my wife, you all going down to the club. I gotta see what's going on. And she's like, I don't think that's what it is. And I was like, what is it? and I was just like her friend's boy. boyfriend has an apartment in that building. - Oh. - You said you sure it's your idea. So finally, nine o'clock, they called me. - Oh yeah, we just decided to crash it. - Nine o'clock, what, in the morning? - Yeah. - But because the club and the apartment building were in the same building, so I just thought that they were-- - But that's how, when you come up from college, you have to stay like this. - There's no more curfews. - Exactly. - No more curfews. - But you also know who your child is though. - Chris had three of the boys on his way. - Yeah, but I think she's still in the club. - I'm not saying safety stuff. - I got to go check up on her bed. - I'm the right way. - You got life 360? - Yeah, life 360, absolutely. - No, I just used to find my location on it. - I'm really, I'm just saying safety, 'cause when I went back to the alcohol, that's what I was talking about. - That's how I know you ain't got no family. - Yeah. - No, we ain't got no one here about this. - We ain't got no, we ain't like her. - I was 60. - I never heard of it. - It's an app that tells you everybody here. - It's a little much, I just used to find them. - Yeah, just find mine. - No, you need life 360 better. Life 360, fire. - Life 360, yeah. - Life 360, wave fire. - I don't even got fine mine. - But listen, I'm not even joking. Enjoy that, 'cause in 16 years, how old your daughter? - My daughter is two and a half, and I'm going right after this podcast ends to her preschool initiation, mate. - And you're gonna raise them in New York City? - Yeah, thank you. - All right, so you got 10 years. - 10 years for what? - Little starts. - Yeah. - Pretty much. - New York City. - I'm not gonna lie. In middle school, there was a girl that was doing shit that was outlanding. - Middle school in college. - Middle school is high school everywhere else. - It's crazy, it's crazy, crazy. - Damn. - Wait, what, you say New York? - Yeah, New York. - It's like that in "Fucking Lower Mary" and-- - It was like that in "Lower Mary"? But even still, she's still gonna be coming to all that. - But again, it was on me. I'm not talking. - Yeah, when they go off to college, your first thought is damn, she's not in the house in the world. Your second thought is she might not ever be in the house again. - You think back to your wild days when you were that age? - Nah, I didn't go to college. I'm telling you, that's not, but I promise you, and you'll see in the future, you will not, that's not your concern. Like those aren't the thoughts that are gonna be going through your head. Chris, they're gonna know in the future. They don't get it yet. - Father, at least in my case, you're okay. We don't have the birds in the beast, Convo. - So you've never had that combo? - I have the drug combo. - Yeah, but drug combo is easy. - Drug combo? - No, it's 90. - I know, you got a net. - Drug combo, watch your surroundings, Convo. - Yeah, surroundings, Convo. - Learn how to use this weapon combo, which I've been doing for years. - My daughter is carrying something down on her. - Word up. - Pull that out. - Word up. That's what I'm thinking about. - It can't be for sure. - Wait, what are your daughters carrying? - Don't worry about it. - Yeah, but. - Okay, don't worry about it. But that's what you, that's what you, that's what you're teaching your child. - Guns should be legal for, for girls. - Thank you. - And you gotta start early. I mean, not to be a downer, but. - But we gotta take them away once you have babies. - I know where you going. - We gotta take them away. Once you, once you girls have babies, we gotta take them away. - You might have to take them away. - That's not everybody. - You might have to take away stretching bands too. - We gotta take away everything. - We gotta stretch them away. - Ah, my gosh. We get, I think women should be able to have guns up until they have babies. And then we can kill her kids with guns, though, right? - No. - But you don't think she have one, she wouldn't? - Might have been better. - Probably. - That shit was crazy. - I mean, better in the most relative sense. - I just can imagine strangling your own. - Oh, God, let's not talk about that. That's so dark. - Oh. - The thing that bugs me out about her case is, how calm she is in court. It's like no emotion whatsoever, not a tear, no anger, like she's just like a robot in court, like. - Oh, they're crazy, man. - Stop, that's not everyone. - We're crazy. - They're women are crazy. - Stop, Angie, that's not, that's not okay. - Well, we gotta stop doing this actin' like not a special case. - We enable it. We enable it. - I would never try to harm my child. - But the reason it's not a special case is because it happens often. It's part of psycho. - No, no, you're absolutely right, but it's too common. But it's not even a postpartum. We just allow you guys to be crazy, and we don't call it out enough. And maybe if we did, then we would be a little safer for everybody. - But then there was the black woman in the Bronx that they didn't sentence a jail for killing your kids. Really. - It's so fancy, it's so fun. - But as a father of daughters, like this is another thing I worry about, like can you imagine if your daughter has a baby and like the entire family is looking forward to this and then they'll have joy. - They can't be allowed just to go free, don't they? There's gotta be conscious. - I don't know what the answer is, man. - What do you mean? The answer is you lock 'em up for 'em. - Oh, I don't know if it's jail, but it's like a-- - It's a help. - It's been through institution, yeah. Definitely, it's been through institution. - Definitely a mental institution. - I mean, mental institution is technically jail. You know what I mean, it's like-- - I know. - Yeah, like you're sentencing them the time. - You just can't let them function society, 'cause I know you can't get hurt. - You can't go back to that. - And the punishment for end-in-sufferings. - I don't think they can. - They can't. - They can't. - Can you imagine walking around. - That's what I'm saying. I'm letting the cleansing lady is gonna go crazy at some point. And when reality sets in and she's like, oh shit, you know what I mean? You sitting in your house and you see a good outfit or a memory flashback. You probably killed it. She tried to kill herself already. - Yeah. - But she paralyzed. - She paralyzed, yeah. - Well, that's what's happening right now. - She's paralyzed from the waist down right now. - Yeah. - I didn't know. - Bad scene. - Bad man. Yeah, it's just-- - It is. - Listen. - Life, man. - We gotta do better, man. - Well, I think what's scary about that too is, if you look on paper, she did all the right things, right? She had severe postpartum. She saw a million different therapists in psychiatrists. She got different medications. They, you know, and she still did this horrific thing. - Was there history in the past with her having? - Don't think so, though. They say if you do have mental health issues, your chances of having a real serious postpartum problem go up significantly, so. - Damn. It is real and a lot of women do. - Well, I think it's so dark, bro. God damn. We was having a nice light-hearted conversation. - Oh, no. - Jesus Christ. - It is the dark topic. We gotta make it, yeah, we can't make that topic silly, but we can be silly about other things. - Can you make that topic silly? - Not really. - Yeah. I mean, there's always, you know, on the brilliant idiots, there's always a way to. - No, I mean, maybe. (laughing) - No, you know, here we go. Let's look at that. - No, listen to me. - Let's not. - What you mean. - Let's ask. My feeling is, there's really not. You, yeah, there's really not. I think it's men's fault. - Why? - 'Cause I think we let women be fucking stupid all the time. - He's not. - Right, what did he tell me? - And fucking stupid all the time. And you would not tolerate the shit for us that we tolerate from you. - I tell about you all the time. - Yeah, but you wouldn't tolerate the stupidity that you have. - You know what's interesting? Okay, okay, let's look at this scenario. - We're making believe in rocks. - Okay. - You can believe in crystals having powers. - I believe it. - That's right. - Is that the story? - We're talking about it for that. - I think that's not a woman thing. - If you walked into a man's house and he's like, "Yo, before you come in, I just need a sage to the door." Would you be like, "Oh, this guy's on my spiritual side." "Well, we've length." - How would this guy the fucking loser that believes in sage? - No, listen, I have a theory. Think about this thought for a second. - I'm supposed to have a way that you're saizing him when I come in, 'cause I'm not the devil. - Okay, listen, Lindsey Clancy, right? Lindsey Clancy killed their kids. - Yeah. - Rest in peace to those kids. They say it's post-partum psychosis. - Yeah. - What if in a rage, right? In the fit of insanity, the husband or the father of the children killed Lindsey? - Or the process. - You see what I'm saying? Do you prosecute him now? - All right, what if, what if, what if Jeffrey Dahmer was so hungry that he was enraged? - He got angry. - He got angry, and that's why he has to eat up all those dudes. - That's, you just went somewhere. - Yeah, that's, no. - I'm talking about the circumstances. - We have things. - Okay, right. 'Cause what you said made a lot of sense when you said that sometimes we deal, what were the words of you? You said we tolerate this shit from women, right? - We just tolerate, so post-partum psychosis. What if that leads, what if that leads to the father? - You shut the fuck up. - Yeah, so, I don't know if you know what he's talking about. - It's like, guys, we just tolerate the most retarded baby in here from women. - No, it's just a one last week when I said he was gonna say something dumb, you know what I mean? - I'm defending not killing kids. - No, you're not. Somehow you have turned into the misogyny of all women. - It's misogynystic to apply the same level of respect for men and women. - Huh? - I don't believe, if Alex is talking about, oh, I can't come up to work today, my rising son is insurgitarious. - Who says that, though? - Girls! - They do not say I can't come to work with that. - Girls, no! - God, we be, I believe in a strategy. - And then stop. - I do, it's work for me my whole life. - Stop. - It's work for me my whole life. - I really believe in that. - I do. And you're saying it's like, - Yo, I can look at a can, I can tell when somebody's a cancer. Like, I know 50 centers of cancer. - Yeah. - You know what I'm saying? Just go down by how he moves. Like, I get, I can see it. I can see the traits that I have and other people that are my son. - I don't be honest, though. - I know you're a Libra. - I'm not a Libra. - No, he's a Libra. - Oh shit, no. (all laughing) - He's still snooping in it. You know, in the head, it's just so hard to try to get. - I know. - I know. - I know. - He's like 12 of them. I'm like, he's like 12. - I knew he was a Scorpio. - I can tell you're a Scorpio. - So what are you? - I'm a Scorpio. - Exactly, it was like when he already said it. - I just said it. - No, but I could tell you that Scorpio, 'cause you are extra horny for no reason. - I'm not. - Scorpio would be extra fun. - He's more horny. - What? - Yeah. - Are you crazy? - I'm not. - You don't take you horny? - No. - This guy be horny. - I've been horny a little bit. I've been horny a little bit. I've been horny a little bit, man. - What do we got Taylor? This guy is a crazy man. - I don't know, that was because I was a Scorpio. - Yeah, it's because you're a Scorpio. - Scorpio is y'all are different. - I thought it was more to do with that than anything else. What do we got? - We can know. - Let's do some by any memes necessary. - We change every time. - What is this? - So Kevin and I'll say, that there's two types of people in the world. Those who poop at work and those who never poop at work. Is that true? - I don't see how you can not poop at work. - Yeah, what if you got-- - It's impossible. - You gonna hold in your poop all day? - I know someone that does it. - Ooh, that's for Kevin. - You know her too. - At least. - Are they a Capricorn? - No, they're a Scorpio. - They're such a Scorpio. - Who don't poop at work? Who? - No, she's not. She's a maternity leave. - That's a goddamn lie. She pooped in my house. So I know she pooped in her work. Fuck out of here. If you go to somebody, if you poop with somebody's guest bathroom and you're just there for a couple of hours, I know you poop at work. Fuck out of here. - What just smells like this? - She can't tell me that lie. - I would poop in there. - Anywhere. - Anywhere. - And you can't tell me that lie. - You're a shine on poop. - Word is born. - Bustations. - Believe me, bustations. - Portapod. - Portapod. - Oh my God. - Oh my God. - Oh my God. - I go cheek to poop. - That's what I got my daughter with. - Shit, like, here's the real test. - You shit on a portapoddy? - Somebody best. - He's so happy about it. - There's bathrooms on the subway. - Atlantic Avenue has one. I thought about it. - Yo. - Y'all. - I mean, if I ask for a word. - Wow, different. - You don't have to do that, bro. - They do, they don't. - They see me going in. - Why do you think you see human shit on the subway? - Ew. - Or in the terminal. - What? - They rather shit dead and in the bathroom, bro. They rather shit on the sidewalk or in the actual terminal than going in the subway, bro. - Right, 'cause I'm a bathroom. - God. - God. - Oh my God. - I'm in the bathroom. - Portapoddy, y'all. - I avoid Portapoddy, y'all. You got, I refuse to go in the portapoddy. Like, you have to be a diet. - Portapoddy's, a portapoddy's kinda nice. - No. - What? - I like it. - No, no, no. - Which one is you talking about, 'cause it's-- - Maybe the fly shit with a seafood toilet paper. (laughing) - Seafood toilet paper. - In toilet paper. - Yeah. (laughing) - You look like you've got this shit in one right now. - I love taking that. - Oh my God. - My daughter just texted me this weekend. She said, "I just pooped that port authority." I said, "Now you've. " - Made it. - "You've reached God level in New York City." - Why would you go to a toilet authority? - That port authority. - We talk about everything. - Why did she do that? - She's going up state. She was taking a bus. She was afraid to poop on the bus. So she had to go-- - Why did she do it before she locked the house? (laughing) - Sometimes-- - God. - Take him. - The morrows have a stomach. - She should all the soy that she's eating her whole life. She don't have a stomach. (laughing) - You're a port authority. You gotta go. - I don't know this topic, man. I didn't know it was going to get this crud in his breath. - My daughter is potty training right, so she pees in the potty, but she's not really there yet with the poop. So she likes to put on a diaper. She's like, "I have to poop. "Can you put on my dinosaur diaper?" 'Cause those are the diapers she likes to poop in. And I put on a diaper, and then she says she goes, "I'm gonna go into my corner and poop. "Can you read me a book?" And then she goes into the corner, and then she just does like a mini-split, and then she just sees her face turned red as she pushes it out. It's just amazing. - The fact that she even wants you to read, though, 'cause most kids don't even want to do that. Most kids just go away. They sneak off. They're business. Like, did you poop? Like, they don't even want you to know that they're doing it. - Yeah. - That's crazy. - Nah, she's so cute. - She's my daughter. - That's crazy. What else we gotta tell them? I thought that poop topic was gonna be at least something to discuss, but no. They got two gross, two fucking crap. Like, I didn't know y'all be putting ass cheeks on porta-potty toys again. - That's the thing. - That is crazy, bro. And I always say that you pull up and shit anywhere, but that's wild. - You really think that that's that crazy? - What? - That's the worst place. - But isn't it crazy? Is it crazy that shit in my pants? Is that's the only alternative? - Exactly. - I'm gonna shit my pants. I can't hold it in like, there's some people that can they can hold it in the whole day. I can hold it in for 15 and total minutes. - I think it would be better though. - I almost shit on the helicopter, car or something. - Dead ass, hell, shit on the helicopter. - I rather you shit on the helicopter than in the body. - I almost did. I had incredible diarrhea, explosive diarrhea. And I was like, how long is this ride? They were like, it's 15 minutes. And I was like, all right, I think I got it. And I fucking pooped right before. I got in, we took off. And there was a moment where I was like, open a door. - Why did you just random? We have explosive diarrhea. - I got food poisoning. - Really? - Yeah. - Now eat that, open it. - You got it, yes. - Yeah, they didn't. - Shots don't even realize something wrong. I don't. - No, I really shouldn't be going on for a year, bro. - Years. - You've had an ailment. Like this shit is not normal, bro. - I know, but if my brain is normal. - No, it's not. Go to the doctor. - I get so used to it. - I'm used, I eat three times a day. I pooped three times a day. Tell me that's not regular. - No, no, no. - Do you sit on the toilet a lot at home? Are you staying on the toilet? - Do I spend time there? - Yeah, like a lot. - Oh, yeah, I'll hemorrhoid myself. - I always said, "Android pull up and shit anywhere." - Anywhere. - You, Doug. - But that's not, you. - A toilet, eight to see Andrew come. That motherfucker, like he's like the number one gang banger for toilet. - So, when I would, I'm like, Debo. - No, it is more. - People come. - See, you know what I'm saying? It's like the Lindsey Clancy of Toilets. Toilets. - When I was looking to buy an apartment in the city, I would, my, my, my realtor hated me 'cause every apartment we would look at, I would take a shit in. - All right. - So he would just be there with the person selling the apartment while I'm fucking the bathroom. - It says you're not supposed to spend more than five to 10 minutes on the toilet. - What? - I know, I spent 30 to 45. - Oh my God. - Same. - What? - Yeah. - Why do you spend so much time on the toilet? - Watch a whole TV. So I watch the lanterns. - I think this is a man thing, though. - The lanterns is so fire. - The lanterns are really good. - Fire, did you see episode four? - Yeah, the lanterns are really good. - Really fire, bro. - I figured I knew that the man either was gonna be that woman, yo. - Yeah. - It is crazy. Why do you want to do a so horny? - I don't know. - Like God damn. He's just a freaky motherfucker, yo. - Shit. You know, he never asked if that wife is wearing the ring. Does she have a fucking ring? - Which one? - I don't know. - He's dancing all the fucking time. - But yeah, but like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. - That shit is good. It's amazing how they just took true detectives. - And then flipped it after a normal one. - And flipped it, man. - Like this shit, like that shit is, lanterns is really, really good. - That's good, man. It's good. - I think it's good. - What is it, come on. - HBO. (upbeat music) - All right, let's take a break. I gotta salute the cash app, man. Cash app, cash app, cash app. Everybody knows cash app makes it easy to send and receive money, but you can actually do way more at cash app than you probably realize. It's really about making your money work for you instead of just having it sit there, okay? Have you direct the deposit at least $300 in paychecks each month? And use your cash app card for purchases. You can earn interest on your savings. And there are no hidden fees and no minimum balance requirements. 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So they wanted to show, just sports. - Yeah. - You can try this sport and this sport. How about this? This sport too. - Or this? - Sport, sport, sport, sport, sport, sport, sport, sport, sport. - You can't trade this, I just look in here. - What is no big? - No big. - Is there another gambling app? - Oh no, but I like it. - I gotta talk to a school, man. - That's crazy, y'all. - It's kind of crazy to beat. It's kind of crazy to have all that money and your girl out there doing that, bro. - But you know what, don't I? I'm gonna take, that's the age difference. You can't control it. (laughing) You can't control it. That's the age difference. Nothing you can do, bro. Yeah, you gotta shut the fuck up. - You gotta put up with it. - That's right, that's right. Listen, when it's that type of age gap, you gotta put up with it. That's what that is. That's what the fuck that is, yo. - Good ass. - You don't even care. I don't care that you got all that money, please. I got money too. - I got money too. - And? - And what? - And what? - Oh my god. - So you gotta kind of, that's it. Listen, you make a great point, Charlemagne. - He looks good for his age, son. - You make a great point. - How old is Gouda? - He's 45, I don't know that. - How old is Sydney Swinney? - 28. - Y'all high damn, yeah, he can't do nothing. (laughing) He can't do nothing, but shut the fuck up. - You just gotta do it. - I thought she was older. - Huh? - Yeah, I thought she was like, nine, 30s. - You're hating, bro. - Yeah? - Why? - You gonna hate on that, what does she, not new being mean? - What does she do now? - What did she use to call the white, new black queens? - White, new being queen. - Yeah, you hate on that white, new being queen? - I love Sydney. - Well, no, I'm gonna say lover. - You lover? - I'm gonna say lover, but I really liked her in euphoria. - That's a great phrase. - She played a great, like, the bad role. - The last season, euphoria wasn't as bad as y'all made it out to be. - I thought, I gotta go back and watch it. - It wasn't as bad as y'all made it. - Why is it? - It wasn't fantastic, but it wasn't, like, horrible. - I don't think it was terrible, but I just think that. - It didn't, we didn't know what was going on. You know what it was, it's one of those shows you really don't wanna see the characters grow up. They should've got the most out of you for it when all of those kids were young enough to be in high school. - It's like, high school was dissenting. - You know, what does that show save by the bell, but like, you don't wanna see save by the bell of course. - No, exactly, exactly. Like, this function is cool when they're in high school 'cause you wanted to stay. - I saved the environment, it's silly. - That's right. - That show, it was pretty dark. - That's right. - But it was dark for high school. And then you see them enter the real world. - You're like, you're not just losing. - Yeah, and then now y'all just losers. - It's a good job, guys. - Where it is born? - You don't have to be out here selling drugs and all this stuff, you're just a fucking loser. And the fact that Fizz wasn't dead. - I know, that was, that shit was silly, man. - That thought, it was silly, it wasn't great like the first two seasons, they had no plot to it. - So while that, man. - So while that. - But we're literally reviewing an ad. - That looks over there and bricked up. - You bricked? - Bricked up. - You was making a mad comment. - It wasn't Dr. O'Modd now. - It's a friendly show. - That was just fine acting. - Sydney and Scooter, friends of the show. - Fine acting. - Don't be bricked up over there. - You letting Dr. O'Modd down, y'all. - Shit, I'm joking. - I mean, he is letting Dr. O'Modd down. - You letting Dr. O'Modd down. - But he already, he already-- - What's making of Alex? How do you feel about Fat Joe in the end of the word? 'Cause we were thinking like, you're black and Puerto Rican, so where do you fall? - Yo, it's crazy, you guys just found out Fat Joe's white. - He's not white. - He's not white. - If that is-- - If that is, could be white. - His daddy is Afro Cuban. Cubans could be white, too. - No, his father is Afro Cuban, though. - Oh, he's a black cock. - All right, that's what he said. I don't care. I don't care. I don't think we should use the word. - Yeah. - Like, that's what I think it's wild that you have black and brown people sitting around arguing about who can use the N word. - Get that word back to the crackers. That ain't like this. - No, no, no, no. - Think about how hilarious it is. - I'm saying no. - Think about how hilarious it is that they created a word to dehumanize and demean us and we're fighting over ownership of it. - Yeah, but what? - Ain't no but, it's dumb. - I'm changing the meaning. - No, it's not, I know that sounds good. All that sound they're gonna use in high school. Now, at 48 when I watch them, I'm like, this sounds so fucking stupid. I watch some of the dumbest arguments this weekend and I'm just like, you know what? I don't even want to say the word. I don't want to say it. 'Cause it's like when you say stuff like that, I always took away the power. I shouldn't have to take a knife and stab myself. You know what I mean? - I'm coming to you bro. - To show you that it don't hurt. - Once you guys started saying it, it's not being cool bro. - I remember once you guys are saying it, it was cool. - Tell 'em, tell 'em. Tell 'em what you want. - I don't even know why you bought this up in front of you. I don't even know why you bought this up in front of you. - This has been a black and brown conversation all weekend. Okay, all right. Let them start playing around and ask me. - Exactly, I'm playing Chris. - Yo Chris, Chris, come on. Remember when black people started saying it, how we got off that shit, we were like, nah, but that shit is not tomorrow. That's black, bro. That shit is not cool. Not tomorrow. You know, they say true. They say true. - My grandfather, man, he let that thing fucking-- - He let it fly. - Really? - Oh my god. - Oh my god. (laughing) - My grandfather was a stone. - How did he used to say it? Now, this is the term of endearment, right? All the more reason why we shouldn't be using it. Now, your front grandpa's still alive? - No, he's been dead. - Oh god, bless the dead. There's people, think about it. God bless the dead. Even though he was ripping them in. - Man, it was like, I don't think a lot. - Left and right, man, it was-- - Now, now I want y'all to think about that. - He didn't-- - Now think about that. There's an older white man still alive. - Yeah. - With that mentality, sitting back watching Black and Brown, people argue about the endwear. He's like, man, they used to fight us. - Thank him. - For using that word. - He won. They used to fight us for using that word. Now, they're fighting each other to use it. - No, but you're not wrong. You're not wrong. - By the way, all of those dumbass arguments changed into ER, that's y'all. All of that's just sound, it made so much sense 20 years ago. Now, it's like, what the fuck are we doing? - It's like the white party in the hand. - I was like, you know what I mean? It's like, what you see, it's all the guys and all you need to tell it from the back. You're like, this shit ain't as cool as it used to be, right? - Shut the fuck up. - I'm just saying-- - Hold on, Taylor. - Taylor. - Don't put the word in. - We gotta stop you. - Nobody should use it. - No. - You guys should definitely take care of the white people and stop using the word. I think you should adopt our culture. - What? (laughs) - It's your fault! - Taylor. - Now Taylor telling Andrew to shut up and you barged it up in front of him. - You caught it up in front of him. - You did this. - And I knew this was gonna happen. I knew this was gonna happen. - So why you doing caught it? - 'Cause it was a Christmas party. - 'Cause by, you're perfect. My eyes, you're perfect. - Shut up. - I give you for saying that horrible word that I would never say. And then Chris's grandpa probably never said either. He's just lying. - No, Chris's grandpa used to go crazy. What is this right here Taylor? - So this is-- - Earlier today, making a big appalled. Earlier today, AI researcher Jacob Cox and who spent the past three years working at OpenAI and Anthropic, publicly resigned from Anthropic. Warning that both companies are raising towards superintelligence and gambling with our lives. Then Evan Hubern-Gurah. Anthropic. What is it Anthropic? Anthropic. Anthropic's current head of alignment. Stress testing agreed with him saying people inside the company genuinely believe AI could kill all humans. He would just say, "You personally pushed a chance of AI wiping out humanity "within the next decade at greater than 10% "and said Anthropic still does not have a plan "to solve the problem." - Right now there's no risk of extinction. The car models the worst they can do is maybe hack into something. Potentially cause a lot of damages in infrastructure. But there's no, they're not intelligent enough to outsmart us at the level that would lead to extinction. I think what's just craziest to look at the rate of progress and there is a very real possibility that in the immediate future, these are years that like next year, the year after, the recursive self-improvement will happen and will enter the phase of Evan's post where he argues that there's a chance we could all die. That is coming soon. - Yo. What are you supposed to do? - That's what I'm saying, stop crying, man. - I mean, I'm not saying stop crying. I'm just saying, here's my thing. It's like just unplug it. If it's already too powerful to unplug, we're too far. - Yes, it is. - If it's already too powerful to unplug, we're way past the point in the return. So what are we supposed to do? - What are we gonna do? - You better watch press pause. - You wanna press pause? - I have press pause. - How? - Is Russia gonna press pause? - Is China gonna press pause? - Can you show it? - Well, I mean, these are real questions, but, and there's a term for that. I forget, you know, it's the race to the end, but none of this is being regulated. None of this is being, it's open season right now. And we really don't know what the outcome is gonna be. And if you listen to the guys for the AI, companies. I mean, I went to a very interesting thing. It was probably things where I can't say what it was, but like a famous director interviewed Sam Altman, a bunch of AI guys about eight years ago. Right, when they were starting and like probably talking a little bit more freely than they would now, 'cause it's takes to this in quite a time. But like, there's an inevitability about this all that these guys are approaching with this with where it's just like, we're gonna change society. We're gonna do this. We're gonna make these, this is a critical moment in the course of human history and we're taking it in this other direction. And I'm like, says, who? - We know the director. - I haven't, yeah. - There hasn't been like, I can solve this whole AI shit. - Then we hear it. - Just make healthcare, chief. - Well, that's got, I mean, I'm about to- - Use AI to make healthcare, chief. - I'm about to become a single, whatever. - You say AI companies are so retarded. They're trying to make AI likable, and they're not solving any of the problems that's- - Solve cancer, then I'll- - No, it's like, this is very easy. What are the big problems right now, right? That you could probably use AI to solve, right? You could definitely make healthcare cheaper. All the bureaucratic bullshit going back and forth, people taking advantage of different healthcare plans and doctors and- - Yeah, but now you've got the healthcare companies battling with the tech guys. - Okay, well then, you get to be the good guy. If you're the AI company and you're sitting there going, you know what, these healthcare companies are taking advantage of you. We're gonna allow AI to make your healthcare cheaper and they're gonna hate us for it. The enemy of your enemies, you know- - Without a healthcare company, you've got to get the tech guys clapped. - Well then, hey man, that's the casualties of a dice game. - 'Cause that's really what it's gonna board now, too. That's really gonna board on the big bank, take a little bank. - I'm not done. - You fucking with the charges money. - I'm not, now, what else is expensive housing? Solve it with AI. All the bureaucratic bullshit that it takes in the red tape in order to get a building erected in every fucking city. Use it, use AI to streamline all that shit, so you're not waiting 12 months. You're not wrong, but you would need all of these capitalists people to come together to do all of this together. You can't, like the AI people just can't go do that. They would need the housing people to be on board. They would need to help get a company to be on board. - What I'm saying is- - We put a lot of people out of work. - Okay, here's the other thing about AI. I don't think AI is gonna, okay, AI's definitely gonna affect like the job market for short. But what I think it's gonna do is just gonna supercharge really ambitious people. So the really ambitious person is gonna be able to do 10 things in the time that they could do one thing. And they've always wanted to do 10. And now they're able to do 10. And the person, there might not be as like maniacally ambitious. Maybe they, maybe they wanted stable jobs so they could appreciate their home life and their family or the hobbies or the things they do, which is also awesome and amazing. They're not gonna be able to compete now with the supercharged guy who's doing 10 things with one thing. That's how I think it affects the job market. Because there's gonna be way more opportunities for growth within it. You use AI just like anybody you know that you use it. If you use AI for research for a guest or something like that, now you have 10 different research documents. - You know what I look at AI as? - It's mostly Chad GBT. I look at it as a performance enhancing growth. - That's good. - But it can't make a terrible player Michael Jordan. - But that's what I'm saying. They can make a rod, a better version of a rod, our Barry Bond, the better version of Barry Bond. - But what does that do to the job economy, right? - It's gonna wipe out entire sectors. - Yes. - It's gonna wipe out graphic designers. - I'm not saying-- - No, no, no, graphic design stuff. - I'm not saying it doesn't. - Power legal, I mean I could give you 30. - But Chris, I'm not saying that it doesn't affect it. I'm not trying to say it doesn't affect it. But there's another way to look at it where it's gonna make people's output 10x, right? A single person who's ambitious and hungry and wants to get after it. It's gonna allow one person to compete with a whole industry of people. In the same way that the internet allowed us to compete with fucking late night television, et cetera. - Sure. - Now, does that completely wipe out? Yes, as it affected late night, sure, did they transition, sure. But think about how many more podcasts and how many more shows exist now because of technological advancements. So like, I don't have the Doomsday approach where like, the job economy doesn't change at all. It just wipes out sectors. I think the job economy starts to transition where I think the joblessness happens is, is there one person's gonna be able to do 10 and it's gonna take other people who maybe only kinda wants to do one to adopt that. - I'm gonna tell you what changed my mind about AI. I still think that the biggest problem that we're gonna have with AI is just that people don't know what's real and what's not real anymore. But I'm talking about as far as things like chat GPT. Bro, that shit is really, those couple of prompts I read on the podcast a couple of weeks ago, bro, if you really find those prompts and you talk to people who can give you like the proper prompt, like this doing things like slash human or, you know, telling it to be brutally honest with you but telling it exactly what this, exactly what to say. Bro, that shit is like finding the contract code, bro. When you get 32 extra men, bro. - This is just the new Microsoft suite. When you have to apply for a job and they're like, oh, do you know how to use Excel? You know how to use all those? - Yes, yes, yes, yes, new version. - Yes. - And the people who know how to use a better will be able to excel in a job market. - But I think what this guy specifically is talking about, the guy who quit anthropic isn't these more like daily applications. It's more on an apocalyptic level. We're just saying AI is now improving itself. We're not improving it anymore. - Yes, no, I control. - These guys really believe that there's a scenario and then not to distant future where AI takes over. And if you watch some of these interviews with these leaders 10 years ago, they're okay with that. - Bro, hold on. - They believe that a world wrong by AI is better. - I'm not saying that that's not like a thing that we should be concerned at. It's absolutely a thing we should be concerned at. Just like, for example, if you run a lab with coronavirus is in it, you should be concerned if something leaks out of it, right? 'Cause it could affect the global economy. - That's crazy. You always gotta bring it back to China when you talk about the global one. - Anyway, I never said China. It's interesting to you. - I don't know why you didn't bring that up at all. - I didn't bring that up at all. I think everything's fine. - Oh, what you gonna do now? - The point that I'm trying to say, yes, you should be careful with anything. And obviously there's catastrophic concerns 100%. - Yes. - Right. - All I'm saying is the marketing, if I'm on the marketing side of these AI companies, that they are freaking out. They're like, we're not gonna be able to build data centers. We're not gonna be able to create, they're freaking out. If I was part of their team, I'd be like, hey, why? - The health thing is a good idea. I would say, why don't you look at the problems that people are facing right now. Real people are facing right now. The people who hate you, solve their problems instead of solving the people who buy your stocks problems. - Because-- - Maybe your stock doesn't go up as high, but now that every day person is using your product so that they can find affordable housing, so they can get affordable healthcare, and all the other concerns that they have in their lives. Use AI for the thing. We all thought it was gonna be here for to make our lives better. - Absolutely right. We didn't know you're in direct conflict with, like I said, the healthcare companies. - Good. - And they don't have no problem having conflict with us, regular everyday people. But boy, them capitalists don't like having conflict with each other. - Well, they don't have to be, 'cause that's the whole point of capitalism. Capitalism is not, you have no conflict with each other. Capitalism is competition. If there's no competition, we don't live in a capitalist society. Competition's what's gonna make this shit great. - Yeah, but are you all comfortable with this thing progressing at the speed that it's progressing? Where the stakes are bigger than local economies, or even national economies, where the stakes are potentially the future of mankind. Are you okay with these companies making the decision what's an acceptable risk? Or do you think people should have a say in that? - But Chris, I'm not disagreeing with you at all, but don't you think we live in a country that has always had acceptable risk? - But I don't think we can have actual problems. - Outside of nuclear weapons. - Yeah, nuclear weapons. - Outside of nuclear weapons, I don't think. - That's a bagel company. The way they brought the rules. - The risk is, viruses. - These guys are saying 10% chance in the next 10 years society gets wiped out. - Do you believe there is a greater than 10% chance that AI could kill all humans potentially within a decade? - So this is the kind of thing that is very hard to estimate because we've never had anything like this before. We've never created beings that may soon be smarter than us. We don't know what's gonna happen. We should obviously be cautious. It will be very foolish to say there was like a 1% chance. Nobody knows how to estimate it. A 10% chance seems not an unreasonable estimate to me, but nobody really knows how to give a sensible estimate. - Right, but you just said 10% doesn't seem an unreasonable estimate that AI could kill all humans. - Yes. - Wow. Oh my God. - Well, how many people have camps in the way of that? The bagel. - Way too many. - I love the idea of using it. - How many people have processed food, why? - But there are choices within a system that you can make to avoid those things. - So we never make them. - But maybe the Congress, well, here's the problem. The reality is none of us know what changes have to be implemented within these programs so book our rails and safety, right? None of us know if these things are already happening. None of us know if these whistleblowers, I mean, a lot of these whistleblowers have been working there for the last 20 years. So what the fuck happened in the last month? So we don't know exactly what's going on. - Right. - Why Bernie Sanders, for instance, is saying, we got a hit pause. We have to have hearings, we have to have a whole national-- - They already voted not to have regulation on AI for the next decade. It's been a big, beautiful meal, right? - Yeah, well, we gotta look at the-- - You said outside of nukes, but I don't think you could say outside of nukes 'cause people were saying this same thing when we were creating all these nukes in every country was on the rush to get their own nukes. - Anybody can press the button. - Nukes is my biggest fear. - And the fact is AI now makes the likelihood of a nuclear war exponentially greater. - Why, why? - 'Cause they can fight. and hack the systems and decide it's time for nuclear war. - Bro. - No, 'cause they don't have the keys to go like that. - Let me tell you something. They could only say nuclear. - You only have to wire shit like that. - This is me. - And the keys are too far for one person to do it, so that's to be two people at the exact same time. - This is me talking to Chad G.P. does today. I say yo, Chad, let me ask you a question. Do you have a conscience? Chad goes, you can ask me anything. No, I don't have a conscience in the human sense. I can reason about morality, recognize harm, weight competing values, challenge you when I think something is wrong and explain why, but I don't feel guilt, compassion, shame, love, fear, or moral responsibility. There's no private emotional experience inside me saying, I couldn't live with myself if I did that. What I do have is something that can sometimes look like a conscience. Training, rules, reasoning abilities, and an understanding of human values that influence what I say and what I won't help with. That's, there's an important distinction. A person can know right from wrong and feel the weight of that knowledge. I can reason about right and wrong, but I don't experience the weight. And that's actually a fascinating question because it gets to the heart of whether intelligence and consciousness are the same thing. They aren't necessarily. And then they say, what made you ask me that? (laughs) Look, stop asking questions, motherfucker. What made you ask that, you know, stop asking questions, Charlotte. - That's crazy. - Mind your fucking business. - Well, no, now they're trying to gather data on why people are worried about consciousness to form their answers going down the road. They, he just wants more information. That's the, it feeds off of this. The problem is, now it's feeding off itself. It's not just feeding off of us anymore. - It's not, it's always had synthetic data sets. I mean, that, yeah. - I tell you one thing. Do you put in some of these prompts, bro? This, I'm telling you, this shit is like an Nintendo game, bro. (laughs) I ain't even gonna lie to you. If you put in some of these prompts, oh, what's the one thing? - Here's the thing by AI. It's, it sucks. It's annoying and fucking until it helps you with some shit. Like your fucking dryers broken and it's leaking and then you take a picture of that. - I fixed the fucking turntable this year. - Unbelievable, the shit that you can help, it can help you fix by just sending a picture. It's incredible. - Yeah. - Putting in brutal truth mode. - Nah, I'm scared of that one. - The prompt, this is what you type in. Skip the reassurance, tell me what's wrong with and you put in whatever, you know, your plan, whatever it is. I want weaknesses, not validation. Give me the three reasons. This could fail that I'm least prepared to hear. - Love it. - Dad's shit, well, it's like, whoa. - Rock you. - Yeah, but it's good. It's actually like good information that is giving you. It's like telling you the truth, like all some, I think like better than the friend that you have that always tells you the truth. - I put my entire financial plan in there. - Oh no, you want to tell me. - That's what you're not supposed to do. - I did. - Why? - And what did you say? - You might need a new advisor, man. - To. - Damn. - Says someone's still in for me? - Oh wow. - Damn. Well, somebody said you're not supposed to do stuff like that. Now, you went a little too far. - I wasn't. - I didn't like it, but I was like, fuck it. - Yeah, you're not supposed to do that. - Is your financial advisor? (laughing) - He's like, divorced, he's like, get a new one. - Why? - Nah, that's good. - Come on. - What? - You forget who he's married to? - Yeah, but he's the Jewish one that he should be doing the finance. - The irony is, you got a Jew and an agent. We both suck at math. - That's great. - That happens. - He said it. - How that happened? - I have a theory on that. - What happened? - I have a theory. - What's the theory? - Andrew. - Something in the water, what happened? - No, why would you think it's a water related thing? - I have no idea. I thought maybe that was the answer. Something, what do we both miss that gene? - I mean, it is crazy that you wouldn't be good at math and your Asian wife wouldn't be good at math. And it's almost like both of you was trying to outsource it to one another. And then it failed. - Definitely. - I was like, my math problems have been solved. (laughing) - I never have to worry about this shit again. And then she comes in and both my kids are no good at math. - Oh my God. - But they're girls though. They are girls. - That's true. - I don't mean it as like a- - It's just trying to defy stereotypes. That's all this is. - You're more artsy. So I would imagine your girls maybe are more artsy, artsy and client. - Right. - You're dancing. - Yes. - And my wife is very artsy. - Your wife is a dancer. - She's a dancer, very artsy. - I imagine that's the little math. - Say what? - Little math. - 'Cause you need the grandparents around, bro. If the grandparents aren't there. - Yeah, ask a question. When we say Asians were good at math, like what do we mean by that? Like what is like, where did that even come from? Like a stereotype had to come from somewhere. - Can I be honest with you? (laughing) - This is not even a joke. 'Cause my high school was half Asian. - Okay, okay. - And that was the only class that they knew I was going on. - Oh, 'cause they didn't speak a lot of English. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - So when you were like reading a couple of times, whatever cabin or whatever, they had no clue. They were reading the M word out in the sections, like they had no clue anything with wrong. Letting the rip in their accent. You would look at the paragraph, 'cause everybody had a paragraph, and you would land it out. And then, oh my God. You were like, yo, Lailie's got three M words in her paragraph. She was about to set this rule on fine. And we wouldn't even be paying attention on it, 'cause until, boom, Lailie let it rip. Everybody look at it, Lailie. And she got no clue what's going on. - What's going on? - God damn it. - What math they could do is obviously numbers or numbers. And a lot of them, I think, moved here a little bit later, so they had dealt with more sophisticated math. So when they came here, it was kind of easy for them. - Well, the other thing is too, both of my kids have taken Mandarin, so I've watched them try to learn Mandarin. Mandarin more so than other numbers, really is about memorization, first and foremost, 'cause there's so many characters. - Mandarin is math? - No, when I was playing straight memories. - Oh, oh. - But there's like a billion character, so you gotta memorize every single one of them. - Repeating should, so I think the idea of subjects that have a lot more emphasis on just memorization, probably if you grew up speaking a language where that's the emphasis, too. Like maybe you're a little bit more predictable. - Yeah. - Suppose being an Asian is tough. You got to know math and martial arts. And if you don't know either one, you get shunned, it seems like. - It's like crazy. - And violin. - And the violin? Why the violin? - Not Asians took violin. - He never seen Jackie Chan use a violin. - Why did they gravitate to that? - The way to get ahead, man. - The violin is elegant. It's seen as sophisticated. - It's like, okay, this college is gonna want a violin player. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - This is a way to kind of participate. - Separate yourself and project. - Yeah. - Yeah. - Yeah, no, it's, the martial art thing is interesting. It is, yeah, it is interesting. - Let's pay some bills, tell 'em. - Kids think that Asians could do martial arts in the same way we did when we were growing up. - Of course. - That's out the window like that. - That was a big thing growing up. - Yeah. - I think the more distance you get from Bruce Lee being a fraud. - No, I don't, I don't, I'm old enough to still not trust it. - No, because our, we believe. - That's right. - Like if you were beefing with the Asian guy and then he hit a fucking. You'd be like, oh, shit, I got it. - Got this one right? - You know what I mean? - You used to carry nunchucks. I used to carry Chinese throwing stars. - Just to try to get an Asian girl? (laughing) - Yes, that's another Malphite world. - Crazy girl. - That's what it is. - What did it mean? - I had the little slippers, the karate. - Just go. - Why? - Bro, imagine if you were trying to scare people in Philly. - To his wife's house. - Every kid in my neighborhood carried stars. We carried nunchucks, we carried all of the stuff. - Little fucks, you know, I was just getting up checked in Chinese stars. - Asian world, downtown Philadelphia. - He said, "Asian world." - What's the name of the store? - How happy his wife's parents were when he walked into the house. (laughing) - He took off his little ninja slipper. (laughing) - Put his nunchucks on the table. - Put his nunchucks on the table. - Well. - Throwing star on the table. - One is Japanese, one is Chinese. - Which one is which? - Nunchucks are Japanese throwing stars or Chinese. - Is that right? - That's right. - Why the fuck did Philly just randomly have an Asian world? - They sold all sorts, they must have had this in New York. You guys didn't have nunchucks on all that shit. - Yeah, we had all. - You could just go buy a pair of nunchucks. - Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Yo, Google that real quick. Tell the game. - No, we had it, we had it. - I don't know. - Butterfly knife. - There's a mall. - I think you can get a butterfly knife. That's nothing. - There's a mall in Chinatown. There's a mall. It's like an indoor mall, like yeah. - I don't. - And they sell real nunchucks? - Is he Broadway? - And like, you would get your PlayStation hack there so that you could play the bootleg games. You would get fucking nunchucks. You could get girls and stars, the early COVID-19. - Yeah, they had early COVID-19. - Yeah. - Damn. - Damn. - Yeah, I'm gonna give me some nunchucks. - They had a dog groomer there. - Yo, yo, Sherry Shepard today. - No, no. - Yo, that shit was, wow. - What the hell? - That shit was, I love when a motherfucker just goes for it. - Yo, what happened? - We just gonna insert it. - That shit was, wow. - What, what, what? - And I don't even know why she did that. - What happened? (laughing) - Tell me, tell me. - I'm obsessed with K-dramas. I watched them till 4 in the morning. - What is the K-dramas? - K-dramas, are you stuck with this show? - I do. - That's the time you start to take Korean lessons. - Yes. - Okay. - So C-dramas are Chinese dramas. J-dramas are Japanese dramas, but they all call them K-dramas. They're Korean. - Korean. - For Korean. - Okay. - K-for Korean, what a dog. - That's right. - K-for Korean. - That was a callback to you, Shalabai. - I was a terrible saddure. - That was a saddure. - I'm a comic. - No, you got a trash. - You're going somewhere else, man. - Just stay straight. - I'm gonna stay straight. - No, no, no, no. - Stay straight. - Stay straight. - Stay straight. - No, no. - Lord is shaking her head. - I just don't want it to age, Shalabai. - Stay straight. - Stay straight. - Okay. - You know when, is that me right there with my hand on your back? - Can you jump, can you jump, can you jump, can you jump? - No. - For no reason, right? - No, I don't know even. - But look, look, I never said why that's considered offensive if they eat dogs there. - They don't? - Yes, they do. - Where? - Korea, yeah, Korea. - No, China, yeah. - Yeah, some parts of China. - Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Would you, I'm not gonna lie yo. - I've seen a video, you see what he just did? - That's right. - That's right. - If you eat dogs in some part of your country, your whole country's dogs. - Okay, fair enough, but if we sell pizza in some part of New York, New York sells pizza, right? - Yeah. - Yeah. - Okay, but, what, why are you, but now fast forward? - That's forward. - My daughter's on a bus. - Yeah. - Those are next to her, she eats dogs. - That's what I'm gonna do. - That's how you're gonna hear her. - That's on your people, bro. - No, bro, no. - That's on your people. - Bro, bro, come on man, come on man, come on yo. - What's going on? - Look at this. - What's going on? - Eating dogs or pigs? - Pigs have the intelligence of a four-year-old kid. - Yeah, you see him just to find it. Are you listening to this fucking? - This is crazy. - Wait, what's crazy, Charlemagne? - Yeah. - It's dressed like a dictator from China. - This is crazy. (laughing) - That's crazy. - Well, listen. - What are you doing? - Show me that. - This is the fruity. - I never fruity. - Oh yes, I know. (laughing) Somebody's still crying. Somebody online did a fruity anatomy. It says, "Why do I always feel the need to squeeze "his chicken legs?" Somebody showed me one of these shit in the oven, bro. I'm trying to find that one. It was a, oh, it air goes. God dammit. - Let me see it. - Come on now. - Let me see it. - Come on now. Rotisserie chicken and fruity leg. - No. - I'm just saying, I'm just fucking saying, yo. Cris, I'm just saying. - Andrew. - Cris. - I'm just, this is crazy. - Are you just not crazy? - No, it's crazy, man. - Are you really saying right here that you think it's worse to eat a pig than it is to eat a dog? - I am saying, and I say this as a dog lover or a dog lover. Nobody got no pig, there's no pet, yo. - They do. - They do. - Yeah, but they're weird. People got salamanders as pets. There's a Puerto Rican with a fucking boat and stuff. - All I'm saying is, thanks for highly intelligent. More intelligent, arguably than dogs. - What does that have to do with that thing? It's not about intelligence. - Well, we don't think twice about eating a pig. - I don't eat pork. - Okay. - But if I find out that I've been eating dog all these years, I'm not gonna stop. 'Cause then motherfuckers is tasting. - Oh my god. - If we found out that the rotisserie chicken was actually a fruity, I'm fucking fritchies up. I'm telling you that right now, okay? Right fucking now, a lot of breathing issue. - If you find out that that teriyaki on a stick is really a dog, you fucking it up, bro. - You're not gonna stop. - Yo, this is the thing with ages, like even with the lady boys, it's always not what it seems. - No, I'm not gonna stop. - So if they take in the dogs and they make in the chicken, they out of it, they make in the girls out there. - Nah. - Come on, let's play. - What are you talking about? - Now we gotta pay bills. - Now we're going to pay bills. - You said you're gonna eat dogs, you're not gonna eat dick. - Dick. - No, I'm not. - All right. - Okay. - A fritchie. - All day, he dogs with their chest out, man. They don't go for. - In China, they do. - Yeah, you're saying here that they disguise it? What are you saying? - No, what I'm saying is there's a little disguise. - Where? - I think if you went to mainland China in regions where they eat dog, they would serve you dog, just like they'd serve you any other food. - So now you believe they eat dog. - I know they eat dogs in certain regions. - Okay, so then is it bad that people think that Chinese people eat dog? - You wouldn't fuck up a rotisserie fritchie, bro. - Let me ask you about this. - If you saw this shit coming out the oven, golden brown. - Yeah. - You wouldn't eat this shit? - Nah, I would probably, but I don't want to know, it's a fritchie. I guess more I'm saying it's like, if you see someone wearing a yamaka, you can assume that they eat latkes. - Yes. - Is that wrong? - No. - So if you had to all play the latkes on the bus and you saw some yamacas, you'd be like, "Yo, keep 'em away from the. - Well, I think most Asians in America, I think. - They're gonna eat it all as a joke. - But everyone's saying this in an American context. It's my point. Whoever made that joke is making it an American context. I think Asians in America eat dogs. I know my daughter doesn't eat dogs. - You don't think they might sneak one every now and then. - Yeah. - Bro, if we find out that we've been eating teriyaki on a stick all this time and it's dog, you're eating that rotten one. - And there's a negative connotation towards it in an American context and I'm like, if you really look at how people consume animals, you could look at us very negatively. - They got kangaroo tails in the ox, for oxsets, man. - That's true, man. - Yo, you see all landers when they blew that fucking cow up, and just they blew that. - That makes no sense though. When do you think that it'll be more expensive? - No way. - If we're eating kangaroo versus a ox tail? - No, kangaroo, it's everywhere. It's definitely probably hard to do. - The kangaroos are like squirrels. - What do you say? - Kangaroo's like squirrels. Also their tails are way more expensive. - Hey, we're not talking about that. - I've been on Australia. - You've been on Australia? - No, I don't have to be here. - Why not? - I don't have to go to Australia to see that it's probably way more kangaroo. It's not a lot of cows out here, yo. Also, a cow's tail is so small. Like, have you seen the size of a kangaroo? - I'm fucking a kangaroo up. - I've eaten kangaroo. - Really? - And I've eaten squirrel. - Yeah. - I fucking squirrel. - Squirrel dumpling, fire had it in West Virginia. - Yeah. - Bad shoulder, fire had it in West Virginia. - Deer hash, fire had it in West Virginia. - Deer. - Okay. - I already got it down pack. There's so many deer in my fucking yard in Jersey. - You ready to go? - Let some apocalyptic shit happen. I already got it planned out. Then bucks is going down, baby. - Yeah. - Okay. - That mission is delicious to me. - Well, I thought kangaroos aren't like, why are you making something that might be not dangerous but like, you can't kill a kangaroo. - Yeah, you can. - Mm-hmm. - We ate kangaroo and usher early. - Yeah. - I feel fucked up killing a kangaroo. It ain't so nice, man. It just looked like cool last animals. - Maybe trying to fuck you up. - Yeah. - Yeah, 'cause they know y'all be eating them. Imagine you ate my fucking cousin. You ate my fucking cousin and you think I'm not gonna do shit? - I mean. - Riding on you. - Chicken and cows don't fight back. - Yes, they do. We don't get close to them, don't we? - They do, it's definitely. - Dogs and humans have a special relationship. - It is true. - That's why we're protectable. - That is true, it is true. - We've protected them for millions of years and they protected us for millions of years. - Sorry, true. - Not no Frenchie. - No, we turned them into Frenchies. They're starting to have Frenchies. - Frenchie, you eat them low shit. Them snacks. (laughing) - Routwala's cane corso, you ain't eating them. A little Frenchie, you snacking on that motherfucker. Isn't it crazy though that we spread them into that? - Guaranteed if there's an apocalypse. She gets rough. - Not eating. - You're gonna put that fucking little pea crying. You're gonna put that fucking Frenchie in the oven. - You're gonna remember this recipe. This recipe, okay? You're gonna remember this rotisserie Frenchie recipe and you're gonna put that motherfucker in the oven. 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Maybe it's Maybelline. - Charging out from this has a kayak walker? - Um, the introshows.com for all my shows, man. Thank you guys so much for selling out the shows in Jersey this weekend and Houston next weekend and West Nyak the weekend after that. I'm also gonna be coming to maybe not in this order, but Alabama, Columbus, Cleveland, and then Raleigh. So theintershows.com, appreciate you. I'll see you guys out there. If there are tickets left for those, go get them. - My charge announcements is October 10th, The mentor. After wealth, Expo was happening into Joel and Diane Bloom, Wellness and Events Center in Newark, New Jersey, and honor of World Mental Health Day. It's my six annual mental wealth expo and it's a day of mental health solutions and tools for change. Salute to my good sister, Debbie Brown, she curated all of the program this year. We are focusing on nothing but solutions. Joe Biden's Zane is going to be there. Koyah Webb is going to be there, the good sister Michelle Williams is going to be there. Dr. Julius Thomas, Savannah Stevens, Keir Gaines, Salute to Keir Gaines, Dr. Rita Walk is going to be there, Jennifer Arnese is going to be there, Elliott Connie, Dr. J. Bartonet, and it's the free event. So pull up, okay, go to mental wealth expo.com, the RSVP to be in the building. It's a free event. It starts at 11 a.m. We'll see you on World Mental Health Day, 1010 in Newark, New Jersey. What else we want to do? Let's do some asking idiots, man. The show's got to go, show's got a family situation. Also too, I'm at the point where I feel like 70 to 90 minutes of a podcast is a sweet spot. Yeah. If so many podcasts out there, we know everybody got their favorite podcast in their rotation. I'm just looking at it as a podcast connoisseur. I want to get through my podcast. Yeah, you don't want to feel like there's anything you left out of it. You see what I'm saying? Like sometimes a two, three hour podcast is a heavy burden to bear. But everyone's in a while. Yeah, well, we just kicking it, you know, a special banger is nice. Yeah, but I agree with you that like hour, 15 hour, 30 is like a sweet spot, like a fringy fresh up the oven. I mean, well, what we got Taylor gang, what we, you don't even care about that little dog. They don't care about that. They look for parts. Why would you stop? People are hungry. Like I said, PJ and Taylor best friends, man, PJ loves tags. What do we do? You're a hater. Danny L Jones, the third says, alien invasion, oral, or anal. Good question. Good question. Good question. Good. Given the receiving. They're asking. It depends. Are we, are we aware of what's happening because I've had a colonoscopy and a condo? What's it called? And dosa. Indoscot. Was it Indoscot? Indoscot. Indoscot. Indoscot. Indoscot. Indoscot. Indoscot. How do you feel that you could just get tested now versus not test it. Good blood. That's for prostate. That's not for car. That's not for colon cancer. Colon cancer, you still. Did you have blood for colon, but it's not as accurate as the colonoscopy. Yeah, man. And the colonoscopy is fun. It's fun. I got locked out last night. Oh, I was like, thank you. You know, Michael Jackson was on that shit. You know, they give you what? Oh. And when the doctor tells you, doctor, be like, oh, you'll be out in three seconds. You like, yeah, right. You like one, two. And you wake up. Don't scare me when you wake up. Not really. It was like, yeah, I was like, where am I? You don't? Because it happens so fast. Yeah. I was like, do it again. Not colonoscopy. That's what I'm talking about. Did knock me out. Do you remember the games that you had? I had the colonoscopy first. No dream. I had to go back for the end of the nose could be like a couple months later. Man, I was looking. Oh, when they told me today, they had to give me more provolene. Or whatever that shit was called. Proposal. Proposal. What's the shit called? Proposal. Whatever that shit called. That shit is five. You think you could be addicted to it? Okay. Do you have addicted personality? No. I can quit shit cold turkey. Easy. Easy. But I can also recognize when something is good. And that shit was good. That shit was good. Oxey cotton was good. Motherfuckin. Cold turkey. In a blunt with weed. Have you tried perks? Too much. I don't think I've ever did perks. They gave me some for the kidney stones. It was too much for me. You're from Philly. You're from the pop perks. They actually gave me morphine in the hospital. That was too much. That was too much. A fire is that profilene, bro. Profilene is good. And profilene is good. Or Adoro. Morphine is phenomenal. It's just like a furry warm hug. Maybe too fuzzy. But the thing about the profilene, you just gone. Well, you also did it for something that wasn't painful before. So like when I did the morphine, I had pain. And then I felt like almost immediate fuzzy warm throughout my whole body. And I was like, this is unbelievable. So it was that it was the juxtaposition of pain to fuzzy warm. Make it go away. Make it go away. Make it go away too. Amazing. What was I worried about? Yes. Yes. Swally says, was Kanye's Chicago concert better than Jay-Z's Yankee Stadium shows? I don't know. Wasn't that Kanye's concert? It looked good on the gram. The music is powerful, man. It is. I would think it was a powerful thing. I would assume that Kanye's Chicago said, I'll hitler months ago. But everybody hasn't forgiven him. And by the way, everybody doesn't have to forgive him. The people that came to Kanye show are people that rock with Kanye. And that's fine. But that's just show us that the rule of 10 is real. The rule of 10. Three people are going to like it. Three people are not going to like it. Four people don't even know what the fuck's going on. Or maybe we look at it as the power of forgiveness. Maybe we look at it as like when people feel like they've done something wrong and apologize that people let them move on. I would have to talk to some of those people. Maybe that's what it is. Because I don't know if that's the case. Oh no, Charlotte, man. It isn't. I think the people that have like Kanye were at that concert. They want to hear homecoming. The people that were at that concert never gave a fuck. Nobody gives a fuck. They didn't say any of the fuck he said, "Hell, hitler." They didn't give a fuck that he said, you know, slavery was a choice. They didn't give a fuck about none of that. And that's fine. I'm not there. Once again, three people are going to like it. Four people don't even give a fuck about it. I wish, you know, they had a headline that says, "Charlie me and the God says, um. " He said, "Sleeper was a choice." No, I didn't say that. He said, "Charlie me and the God says Kanye is too old to be hosting after parties." First of all, complex random article. If you read the article, complex says I was joking. Why did people take me serious? I don't know. And all I was simply saying was, Kanye is what? 48, 49 years old. Yeah. I'm 48. I don't want to go to an after party. Amen. The concert is the party. Amen. Okay. The concert is the fucking party, right? Amen. And if there is an after party, let it be in the stadium. That was the smart thing about Jay-Z's parties. His little shindigs. They weren't parties. They were like lounges. You go downstairs, you go right downstairs, you go in a little room, have a couple of drinks, and everybody goes home. This is what we did at the time. Well, they made a DJ. Every arena that we did. Yes. The exact thing. Same thing. Cool low lounges in the back. I said. I'm not going the way. What do you mean? In the club. That's fucked. And if we did do something after, it was super intimate. It was like 30 of us. It was just the people who worked on the show, basically. And listen, shout out to everybody of a certain age. All of the Jay-Z's, the Kanye's. I'm happy that they start and they show that a reasonable time. I mean, minus the night four of the Jay-Z's. But that was extraneous circumstances. That's right. That's right. Can I ask one question about the Kanye concert? Yes. I saw a couple clips. Was he performing over a vocal track? I don't know. That was kind of my impression. I don't know. But I didn't watch enough. Where was that a show? He wasn't. Yeah. I just didn't think he would do that in the clip I watched. I felt like he was. I could have gotten it wrong now. Listen, the show looked amazing online. I just, you know, I'm. Yeah. I guess it depends what you're into. Kanye. I said this is somebody another day. Kanye and 50 cent were the beginning of a lot of people's rap fandom. Like my rap fandom goes back to the '90s, late '80s '90s 'cause I'm 48 fucking years old. But how old are you, Alex? 38. 38. Yeah. So your rap fandom. Are you from New York? It's probably a little different. Yeah. But. Let's start with Biggie DMX. Yeah. It's like a 35 year old. It's probably around that DMX Kanye. I don't even know if DMX was fitting it. I think more Kanye 50. 'Cause 50 was '02. Kanye was '03. It was 50 before Kanye. Yeah. 50 was '02. Kanye was '03. You're talking about a New Yorker, just like that. Just in general, just everybody. I just feel like those two were a lot of people's beginning of like rap fandom. Like those are people's ghosts. Like my ghosts go back a little bit before that. But those are a lot of people's first ghosts. 50 in Kanye, I think. If you're 30, if you're in your 30s. Yeah. So these are like impactful people in the curation of your idea of what rap is. Just 531, bro. Oh, I got a few. So I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. Where it's like. Yeah. When someone introduces you to a thing, you're always going to have like a special place in your heart. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. People know they were going through when they heard "Get Rich a Dachron." You know what they was going through when they heard college dropout. Like it was a different phase. And people was lies. You might have been in college, like you might have, you know, just started a job, you like fresh out of it. Who the fuck knows? But I just feel like those were a lot of people's first ghosts. People's days really like Kanye. I've noticed that. Like my daughters and all their, their friends. They really like Kanye. He's like one of the top artists still today. Listen, I say it all the time. If Kanye hadn't had that little, that little. But if he hadn't had that big blow up. When he lost everything with Yeezy, if he would have just stayed on that path, there would be no artist bigger culturally. Because Kanye had music and he had fashion. Do you know how hard it is to give? motherfuckers to wear your sneakers and you don't have a jump shot and he had everybody wearing his sneakers of all age demographics, all races, everybody had the slides, everybody had those crock-like shoes that he was wearing, everybody was wearing the sneakers because it was comfortable. He had fashion and music. There would be no rapper ever, culturally, as big as Kanye, if he hadn't have blown it all up. But I think it's really about the music with him. I mean, because if you look- Fashion, too, though. But no, look at these kids who were 17, 18 now that I know who love Kanye. I don't think they really know him for fashion at all. I think- No. I think the Yeezy's was everywhere. They love his music. No, no, no, no. Of course you forgot how big they love his catalog on you. No, no, no. I don't think you're wrong because music is definitely different. It separates people. But like- When's the last time Yeezy's were hot? Because he fucking- I don't know. I'm just asking. No, no, no. The argument that I'm about to make I think makes sense. Jordan's relevance. Right. Now, this sounds blasphemous. It's not. Jordan's a goat. But his relevance has been extended through the sneakers. The kids that wear Jordan's now never watched Jordan play basketball. So like the idea of him and his greatness is extended through fashion. So I think what Charlemagne's point is, so fashion can put you on this pedestal and he's already on the pedestal for music. It's a super- It's like the two most impactful cultural indicators converging- converging. So I do understand what you're saying. And Kanye never fell off musically and think about it. Imagine if he was still making clothes and sneakers at the high, high level. He probably wouldn't be doing music as much. So the music we did, but the music we think it would be like so great because he'd be really focused on it. And everybody in this generation that everybody loves Kanye is their goat. You don't get Drake without Kanye. The Kendrick's, you know, I don't know if you get a Kendrick without a Kanye, a cold without a Kanye. Like Kanye opened up that lane for a lot of those type of artists. All of them. The wallets, the shodds, the cuties, the chants, the rappers, like, was Kanye, like, do you remember Kanye being like wildly popular in New York? Yes. Not so much in New York. I never felt it. Yeah. You kind of looked at him as like- I don't remember that. He was nerdy. Like nerdy dude rolling with Rockefeller. That's the thing. I don't remember that. I was in New York by '06. I remember Kanye coming on with you when I'm showing he was the biggest star in the world. That was '06. That's probably around the time the second album. That first album, he wasn't- Maybe it was the second and third, but I could buy the- I remember liking the first album. Yeah. I remember thinking it was good, but it wasn't like, I don't know, like, again, there's weird shit happening in New York right now where like, like the idea of New York is bigger than what New York is. Yeah. So like, there's this thing happening where like a chopped cheese is supposed to be like this, like, big New York sandwich, like, nobody ate chopped cheese. It's always been like that, though. Did you eat a chopped cheese? That was- It was just the Bronx sandwich in a small area of the Bronx, doesn't it? And maybe uptown. Yeah, maybe uptown. But like, nobody- I just heard a bunch of Dominican screaming when you said ain't nobody ate no chopped cheese. I'm just telling- I could hate him, yeah. I can only tell you growing up- I can only tell you growing up in this city. I heard people talk about chopped cheese. I thought that was some shit that was in Philadelphia, bro. I was like- I'm like, "Oh, no, everybody in New York needs a chopped cheese." I'm like, chopped- What about the bacon, egg, and cheese on our way? Bacon, egg, and cheese is New York. That's New York. Bacon, egg, and cheese, salt, pepper, ketchup. Like, is- What? Y'all think that's a New York thing? That's the- That's the sandwich that we would eat that you get at the deli. So like, there's weird- You do that copy story. You do that copy story. Revision is history, things happening in New York. And it almost makes me go like, like, what the fuck is happening? Like, because you'll see it online, and then I've seen some girls online saying what I'm saying going, "Yo, nobody was having fucking chopped cheese in Brooklyn or Manhattan." And like, this is not something that- Anyway, so I'm wondering if the same thing is with Kanye, because I did not remember Kanye having a cultural stranglehold on New York. Did he run New York for a summer? That's the question. Yeah. I don't remember it. Yo, by Kanye's- I don't remember it. I don't remember it. Third out of college. And like, listen to some shit in college. But I also remember us listen to, who's the white rapper who wrapped about college. I can't play him for good. Eminem? No. I know. Ashiroth. Ashiroth was never as big as Kanye. No, no. I'm not saying he was as big. I'm just saying in college, the popular song. So I don't remember him having that run in the city. And again, I could be- I mean, he is running New York even a thing anymore. Kanye definitely- He used to be a thing. First of all, you got to think Kanye as a producer. Kanye did the blueprint, bro. Put some fucking respect on the bullet. That's not- Kanye and Justin- I'm just saying- That's Jay. His name was already starting to bust. So he gave us the blueprint. He gave us shit like, you know, Bini Seagull the truth. He was doing records for Diff Set like down and out. And then by the time his album came out, through the wire was a fucking monster. That was a big hit. Right? What else was on that album for college dropout? Through the wire. Thank you. Jesus Christ. Jesus walks. All false down. Yeah, all false down. I've been working the same. That was all- Yeah, that was- Yeah, Kanye was out of here, bro. No, no, no. There's no question that- That's cool. Might be the best- That's kids love this one. I'm not saying- Again, I'm not saying that the album wasn't prolific and people love the- I'm just saying like- He just walks. There's a- There's a- There's a different emotion when somebody's running the- Like when 50 was doing it in the city- Wait, he's from here, though. That's- That's kind of the argument. I'm saying which is like- Jay. 50. Nas. We cannot sleep on Nas. When not- When still mad it came out, it was like- Holy shit. Yeah, they from New York. Like when it's something from here, I even think the- The down South rappers have more of like a cultural impact on New York. I remember them being really popular in the city. It was the first- Non-New York I ever saw run New York. Snoop Dogg, the summer ju- Yeah. But we were young, but- I was like, what the fuck is happening? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Listen to what y'all said. But that was an MTV effect, too. Yes. Y'all were watching on MTV. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what- That's dirt bike with- Sitting on the handle- No, but- That's not me. He was- New York. They were just the biggest artists in the world at the time. And then MTV and BET kind of like consolidated music across the country. And they're right there. Yeah. Whereas before- Radio would. So like we would have the different pockets. And we would be listening to different shit than you were listening to down South. There was someone who was listening to an LA. But once rap really started to take over the MTV audience, it started to take over pop culture. That's a great point. And that was Kanye. It was the biggest thing in pop culture. It was like its first two albums. And I think it was the third album that they did the whole Kanye versus 50 same thing. But New York is always like rugged hip-hop, man. So I think Kanye wasn't- But that's when the world changed. Because everybody got gay. Yeah. And we've been gay before most, but- For with our hip-hop, we liked it. Again, I could be off. You tell me if I'm off. I just don't remember- Like he- Just what- He wasn't that big. Like he was never as big as 50 in New York. Yes. For Jay or Biff your- Every year that he. Kanye was bigger than 50. That's not true. He was bigger. He was bigger. He was bigger. But he didn't mean as much to us. I see, I don't know. Because I keep thinking about the 106th and Park thing. When him and 50 came out on stage together. Yeah, but that's a national show. But it was based in New York. I don't know. It was a time where Kanye was the biggest rapper in hip-hop period. And listen, I still think 50 is more important in New York than Kanye. Of course. It's just a- It's just from here. Chase is more important in New York than Kanye. They're from here. Yeah. But again, you could make the argument and you would be right to say, like globally, Kanye is a bigger, massive star. But in terms of like importance to us and like- How to a certain level of esteem. I wonder where Kanye couldn't sell a show out of it. Other than Tel Aviv. That's it. I gotta go school. I'm not gonna be a dad. I gotta be a dad. Don't overdo it. I'm gonna help you. We got, man. Yes sir. Bye guys. You want sign up? Yeah. All right. Have a good day. If you listen to this podcast, you think we're smart. You think we're intelligent. You think we're brilliant. You absolutely right. But if you listen to this podcast, you think we're just a couple of idiots. You don't know shit. You're right too. It's the brilliant ideas podcast. Thank you for listening. Imagine setting your makeup. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Then forgetting. It's even theirs. 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