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TOPT Call In Stream: Episode 32

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TOPT Call In Stream: Episode 32

The stream is a dynamic, fan-driven discussion on One Piece and anime, hosted by Seb, 30, and Twilight. With strict five-minute call limits, the hosts facilitate lively debates on character power dynamics, such as the Law vs. Sengoku narrative rivalry, and personal anecdotes from the hosts. A central theme is the nuanced portrayal of villains, with participants criticizing overly scheming characters like Conkey, favoring those with emotional depth and motivation—like Blackbeard, who is seen as a complex figure despite his actions. The group also speculates on future story developments, including the Celestial Dragons’ fate, with theories that they may be re-educated or exiled to the moon rather than punished. Personal moments emerge, notably Fuego’s heartfelt sharing of his new son and family journey, emphasizing themes of brotherhood, fatherhood, and responsibility. The hosts stress the importance of fan interaction, encouraging participation through Discord membership and super chats. The episode blends humor, storytelling, and deep analysis, offering fans a unique space for real-time engagement beyond regular content streams.

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I think we're live. Think we're live. Are we live? Maybe not. Yeah, we are. Are we? All right, bet. Hello and welcome everyone to another episode of the T-O-P-T call in stream. My name is Seb. I am joined by my mods, 30 and Twilight. And on this show, we have you all join our Discord voice channel and spit your hottest theories, ask us questions, rant or just go off on anything one piece or anime related. It's a lot of fun. We really do enjoy doing this. It gives us a chance to engage with you guys in a way that we typically can't do on the regular stream because we just don't have the time. Why is this? Why don't we work? There we go. All right. But yeah, we have a dedicated stream specifically for that. Guys, I'm not going to lie to you. I have a small window to do this. I got like two hours, maybe two and a half. I got catch a flight tomorrow. I know I know I know whatever, whatever, whatever. But I get some sleep because I have to all stuff to interview for a global entry. First thing in the morning at the airport. So I got a pack. I got to do some stuff to make that happen. But this should be a lot of fun. Oh, look at Toby's in here too, man. Toby was going on, bro. But yeah, with that in mind, it's going to be five minute calls max. I'm timing everybody from the jump. I just don't got it in me today. It's been a long weekend, long Monday, long Tuesday. All right. I worked today, had a lot going on. You know, I'm saying hit that like button if you haven't already. And if you want to join in on these calling streams, become a tiered member on the discord, a warlord or hire. And you'll have access to our discord's voice channel. And we'll drag you guys it up one by one in order of you guys pulling up. So Twilight, I hope you've been taking notes on who's first. I bet, bet, bet, bet. So thank you. But yeah, we're going to get people in here soon. Like the streams you guys haven't already. It does help with YouTube algorithm. But I'm going to say what's up the chat and read the super chat that we have before we start. But yeah, I see Ramones in here, Zachary Hendershot is in here. I see Baboi on a college. J, Edwin, Korman, Kafa, Manka, David the Oaks. Sonnet. What's going on? I think I see Sonnet in the actual den. All right. We did get a $2 super chat with 350 super chat from Baboi. So I think it says sure goats. Who do you have sob versus law and why? Um. Man, that's actually a really good one. No, it's not. No, it's not law. Look, that's a good one, man. No, don't get asked it, bro. It's a good one, bro. It's, it's a high dish. That's good enough. That's, that's, that's not good. Toby is not good. That's good. That's good enough. But you know, I feel like the answer is a little please, please. So I feel like I should go law, right? I should. You should. But I'm a narrative scaler, bro. That's what I do. What? What narrative, bro? What narrative? That's what I do, bro. Yeah, there's just a lot about it. Law is law is Luffy's fake rival. Sobbo is Luffy's bro, bro. You know what I mean? Well, it's not even the flame up. Flame up, bro. What's the point, bro? Number two. Number two, the revolutionary army, bro. This is a smoker. You know what I'm saying? If you want to be, if you want to be petty enough, I mean, Emu, Emu, Emu mentioned. Sobbo. Emu mentioned. I don't know. My fault. Oh, I'll get it twisted. Oh, it would it would it would it would have been big. Sanji. If it was Sanji. That's a conqueror right there. My boy. It's like conqueror. You're crazy. Conqueror and coming, man. What you mean? Oh, my God. That's a D. That's a D. So that mean. Yeah. D's die. They be smiling. The D prevails. Listen. I don't know. We haven't changed any D's prevailing. Wait. Wait. So, so you, so who you got the lost now? He hasn't died yet. Net net. Otherwise it should be Savo. But I'm sticking up for law here, man. Okay. Listen, man. Savo, Savo, his thing, if Savo scales the way I want him to, like, I don't like the guy, but for him to be relevant and powerful, pre-devil fruit, he should have already been able to, to fight law. Pre-Merry, with the mayor, now he has the additional firepower to help him kind of take these kind of dubs. Yeah, he was collecting this hot beer with rocks, could it? Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. We have to go there. Whoa, whoa, oh, comment down, bro. Comment down. Yeah. Why is he talking about? Yeah, listen, this is 30. You be taking it too far, though. What, what rocks got to do with this? The 30 always got to add some is an ish. Why is rocks in it, man? Oh, he went to, he went to eat, move the hood and got out of there. They both did that. Yo, let me do that. Actually, they did. The island got, oh my, oh my, oh my, oh my, rocks was in it. Rocks was in the flower room. No, no, no, sobo, at least to a punch. He forget how his agenda works, man. Ignore, ignore 30, bro. He forget how the agenda works. But Polo looks like it's going sobo, man. A lot of narrative skills. I mean, law to this point has some more impressive stuff on his plan on his plate, you know what I mean? You got, you got, I want to get more, I say his feet are against like, people we actually seen a match up with. He's like, no, if or he's running away. You know, like food comes in real, he move, he was running away. We seen him cook, uh, oh dude, and who did cook before he got the food and he goes, oh, I forgot, hold on. Come here, let's play in the talking a little bit. Bastille? No, he had the fruit already. Um, Burgess? No, yeah, Burgess. Burgess. Burgess. Burgess. But that was it. Yeah. Mm-hmm. You know, so, hey, what's he, narrative wise, I, I'll go to the top of that. Okay. All right. All right. Let's get some calls in here. Who's first, 30? I'm doing five minute calls everybody. Five minutes. Be, uh, 3D 2Y. 3D? I bet. 3D. What's going on, bro? Oh, okay. I mean, um, five minute calls, bro. Talk to me. What's going on? Okay. Uh, I, I get you don't have to answer this. You don't want to, but, um, I guess, like, do you have a crazy story or like a funny story, um, like about your brothers or something you all did? Oh, man. Um, like from when we were kids, like, how do you, or just in general? Like, what are you? What are you? What are you? I, I guess, yeah, in general, um, because like, yeah, I'll y'all were raking, um, you know, like the uncle tear loose or whatever. I was, I was just wondering. I got a bunch of stories about how I used to get whipped by my parents because I did a lot of dumb shit. Um, Lawrence is involved, you know, I'll tell that one. I'll tell that one. There was a time. I don't know, have we might have told this before, but one time I accidentally hit Lawrence in the head with a baseball bet. Um, so how the story goes, it was a metal bet. So how the story goes, how, yeah, how the story goes, um, I was swinging a metal bat in the house full swing. I thought I was going to the leaf. I was like eight years old. I don't know. Um, and my dad saw me and said, Hey, stop swinging that bat in the house. So I said, I like, I'll stop up with the bat down, whatever that dad leaves, goes to work. I started swinging the metal bat again. Lawrence is like, yo, said that says stop swinging in the bat in the house. So I was like, well, dad's not here now. Is he like, what are we talking about? So he's like, all right, whatever. They're watching like wrestling or something. I don't know, I don't know what was happening exactly, but I'm swinging. Again, I'm trying to go to the leaf. I practice on go. I practice how you play. Um, so Lawrence gets hyped from whatever he was watching and sit like while he was sitting down and sits up while I'm swinging and I swing full blunt and hit him in the back of that. Um, so Lawrence gets pissed. Doesn't doesn't beat me up. He just goes, yo, I'm telling that like, he just told you not to swing the bat in the house, and I reminded you and you're still doing it. So I was freaking out terrified about what, you know, what would happen. And so my, I don't know if he called that or whatever happened, but dad found out, right? He was at work. He wasn't going to be home for a while. So while he was away, I decided to steal all my dad's belts. And, uh, yeah, yeah. So I stole all the belts that my dad has and I hit him in this hole in the wall that I created. Um, it's from some other story when I was doing some stupid stuff. So, (laughs) So, hours passed, I'm trying to go to bed at this point. Dad comes home, and I get woken up by my mom telling me to come see my dad. So I'm like, "Oh, terrified, oh my God, I'm gonna get woke." So I go to my mom's room, and she's like, my parents' room, and my mom's like, "Oh, your dad's in the basement." So I'm like, "Oh, man, I'm shivering, I'm shook." I go down there, and dad's sitting on a bucket with a tennis racket. And his first words to me are, "Dad's not here, huh?" And he just starts whooping my ass with a tennis racket. So, it's funny, they still tell that story. My nieces and nephews brought it up the last time I saw them. And I'm like, "How do y'all know this?" Like, "Why do y'all know that?" Apparently, their grandfather, my dad, talked to them about it, like, "Yo, got to act up. I won't be out of anything." You know what I'm saying? It don't matter what it is, because I did this to your uncle before. And they didn't believe him. So they asked me when I saw them. But, yeah, is that Lawrence upscale? He didn't get knocked out from the metal belt? He didn't get knocked out. I've tried to knock Lawrence out on several occasions. He's never been knocked out. - Yeah, he. - Law seems like the kind of man that just would not go down. - Yeah, bro. - I mean, but that's like, through the back of the head. That's rough. - I mean, I was eight, but still. He should have did more damage than it did. I'll say that. There's a reason why I'm not in the league. - Yeah. - But, yeah. I mean, Sam has the childhood. We should all aspire to have. No, I did not want. No, I did not. My childhood was very tumultuous. I'll say that. Yeah. - But it made you who you are today, right? - Yeah. - Or it. - Yeah. - Well, that's a good thing or bad thing. I guess time will tell, but, yeah. I hope this story was good enough for you 3D. - Yeah, I'm sorry. - I mean, I liked it. I had some action. I had a beginning, middle and end. - Yeah, you know. - Yeah. - They said no hockey on the bat. - Nah, I ain't have hockey yet. - I have hockey yet. - Lauren's had hockey. He was using full body. - Full body hockey. (laughing) - Yeah, man. Is it, is my five minutes or not? I can't. - This is actually, all right. Yep, y'all have it, y'all have a good night. - All right, you two three. - Yep. - All right. - It's a 100% true story, y'all. Oh, man. It was funnier. I never gave my dad his belt's back. (laughing) They still in that wall to this day. - Wait, so, how? What? - Huh. - So, did you get new ones? - He had to get new ones, man. I was salty. Never told him about it. - Wow. - Never told him about it. I think they plastered the hole in the wall too, so the belts are just still in that house. - Just gone. - Just gone, bro. - Well, you had that here, bro. - I was a terrible kid. I was an absolutely terrible kid. I fear having kids because they might be like I was as a kid. I was bad, bro. - Oh, man. Yeah, yeah, nah. - Let's make that deal. - I know a few people like that. They did have kids and they are just as bad as them. - I'm sure, bro. - I'm sure. - Okay, that don't happen. - So, I never told my dad I stole the belts. 'Cause people are asking the chat that he never asked. I never stole. I didn't tell him that until we were grown. Like, I was very grown. So, he was like, "Oh!" - That's where they went. - He saw my terrible adult. How my terrible adult? - Terrible adult is crazy. - That's crazy. I'm an upstanding tax paying American citizen. - He's a standup jet as 30 would put it. - All right, all right. Whatever. Who is next, Twilight? - Diamond. - Diamond? I bet. Diamond, what's going on? Five minutes, bro. Five minute calls today. I gotta get out of here. - Hello? - Talk to me, man. - Yo, how y'all doing today? - Chillin, bro. Tired is all healthy. And I gotta get out of here soonish. So, like, five minutes. You got so 620. - Okay. - Yeah, what's up with these Blackbeard debate? - Yeah, we'll be patterned, bro. 'Cause this one yesterday's part. - Bro, they don't like or respect Blackbeard because he be cowardly. - But, like, they bought up the Ray St. E. Kent, like the statements and the psych. I don't know. It's not consistent, 'cause obviously, you know, I can see why people don't like Blackbeard. Maybe the same people that don't like Usop or Buggie. I don't know, I guess it was too much, man. I think that lasted like an hour. - Yeah, part of that's on me. Obviously, it triggers me 'cause they continue to just say dumb stuff or stuff I disagree with in general. And I gotta, like, rebut it. Like, I had Larry telling me that Kobe punched or caught Mera, Mera, Arrow, man. - Now, I read the manga 'cause, like, I was in my break and I was at that part. I'll, like, let me see. And I know it didn't happen. - Yeah, it was on to me only. And I think that might have been just a regular, like, Hoija-pired Arrow, 'cause she just shot a bunch of Kobe's, like, he made it, or, you know, like, hit whatever. And we just, like, acknowledged it. Like, guys, like, be careful or whatever. Yeah, some Blackbeard pulled up. - So, here's the thing. My understanding of what happened, 'cause I went back and reread it. I didn't get to watch it. But, to me, Boa is still sitting down when Kobe has the, like, punching the arrow scene. So to me, it was definitely one of the Hoija pirates, or Hoija, like, Kingdom People's arrows. Because they were telling Boa not to get involved that they would handle it. Her sisters were still telling her that. So, like, nobody was turned to stone yet when that moment happened. Like, there was no stone arrows being shot. So, I don't know, man. - Yeah. - If I got to watch the anime, sure, but the anime lied, 'cause she was still, she wasn't active yet. What happened? He was talking to her on the phone. I don't know. Maybe I'm tripping. - I just, like, a thing I wanted to counter at, like, counter is there is plenty of, like, hockey can transcend, like, the ability, 'cause we seen instances where, like, Lou Fee versus Caesar, Lou Fee's hands are covered in hockey. But the poison mess is affecting him still. Like, and also with, like, law's room during the rooftop. Like, I don't know, big one. Just, like, dates, like, hockey leakers, or whatever, however you want to say it. Like, stop them, just stop him from, like, using his ability. How many to them? Like, like, teleport them. But, like, their hockey didn't stop the room. Like, so I was, like, on your side, about, like, some abilities are just, like, ridded in hockey. Like, Boa is, like, perfect example. Like, you might not be the strongest, but, you know, like, her, Michelle, and sugar. Like, their fruits could be, like, most hockey is what they're collecting. But, um, I, and my question is, like, what characters, do you want to see, like, make a comeback in the story? That, like, not just like for fan service, so, like, no Ace coming back from the dead, no, like, more backstory lore, like, with Roger or Rocks, like, characters that are alive now, that can make a comeback in the story. That can, like, it'd be cool to see. So, like, example, like, this was like a question, we asked if you see, like, months ago, or weeks. Like, one of them could be, like, Ecomaria. Like, Blackbird kept him alive for some reason, maybe for his fruit. Like, he could make something happen with his shadow ability. Like, that would be pretty cool. Um, I mean, Rayleigh kind of already did, but because, like, this chapter kind of showed us just how great the Roger pirate, like we're, like, power wise, it'd be cool to see, like, him show out, just 'cause he's very, like, he has that typical, like, goofy sensei, um, like a prototype where it's like, you don't really take him seriously, but when he shows out, he's like, actually like that. And then, obviously, Kobe's gonna make the comeback. It'd be cool to see, um, the serifims, like, maybe defect from the, like, chain of command. Like, maybe they, like, escape it. But, uh, I just curious, like, do any of you guys have any characters that, like, are kind of, like, I guess, not overshadowed, but overlooked that are still active that could make it come back. Depends on how you look at Doe Fomingo as active. He's my number one answer for this, always will be. I feel like there's still more story to tell with him potentially. Beyond that, you said Rayleigh, you mentioned Moria. I think Moria is a good shout for this kind of spot. A Nell is another one who's famous for this. He's going to come back one day. He's going to come back one day, Miguel, because he clearly didn't do enough on one of everybody's talking to Kato all of a sudden. After everything he did, so Kato. Hey, man, Kato ain't feeding no top tears, man. I mean, you're not wrong, dude, I got it. Sam, Sam, Mr. Kato will beat rock. I'm not trying to hit it. Hey, two things, two things, two things can be true. I was just about to be, I was just about to be petty and say, well, I mean, look at a Kato without tears, the Kato beat. Koozong. Koozong. Yeah. Yeah. That's one, that's one for Kato. That's one. Give me that. If you say so. What? Kato got no koozong level W's, man. What would W's koozong act? He fought a county for 10 days. He made WWE. He put a pause on Garb. Well, I don't beat Luke. He would have lost that. If that was a 1v1, he would have lost that. Kato will be loopy three times. Give me that. He's the king of the power. What's that? Kato nice. Kato nice. Give me that. Come on. I respect Kato. This one's about right here. I respect Kato. I said, I said, he beats rocks, man. Show me. I said that. You're lying. But hey, I'm lying. I'm not lying. You're lying. Not your own your life intellectually dishonest. Isn't it? If you would. You don't believe that. You don't. I don't think you believe that. I mean, why not? This is black beer agenda. Why would I think? Why would I think Kato over rocks as black beer or your agenda? I would be amping him. No, because you think black, you think black beer could be Kato. On a good day. On a good day. Okay. Okay. What's good day? What's the good day looking like for Blackbird curious off panel? Yeah. The panels are unshown. Yeah. The day that we've never seen him on panel. And he just popped up with Kato's head under his foot. Hey, hey, man. Yeah. I just realized Kato's greatest feats are beating Moria and Yamato before Luffy. Do you really think about it? And resorting to a trick on beating Odin. To be fair. To be fair on that. What he was pissed about that. That wasn't him pulling a trick. Man. It's almost like he could have let Odin heal and fought him straight up after that. But Odin would be black beer right now. Step in it. I'm stepping in. Nope. No cap. No cap. You in line will be best friends. Cap. Cap. Super cap. Odin would be black beer right now. Oh, I got Odin extreme. No, I did. Well, I didn't Odin back then or like Odin if he lived. You say Odin back then? Odin, Odin against Kato. I don't know about all that, bro. Oh, we know about all that. It's a loss. But I mean, but diamond. That's that was like 10 minutes, bro. Oh, yeah. To be fair, y'all, y'all made a longer mind. My question was nice and short. That's true. Diamond, you have a going. I mean, you guys too. All right. We got another five from Cape. Go. It says. Strongest person. Old Gabon can be. Hmm. I wanted to be a troll and say, kid, but I feel like he could be a lot stronger than the kid. Man, they've been to say movie. Tell me, bro. It's nasty out here. The world goes say black beard. That's what that's what it was. Hey, that's what I was saying. Honestly, honestly, I could. There's an argument. There's an argument. He catches my eye. I'm not being black, but I think that's a hard to fight. Maybe hard to get. I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go Kuzaru. I think I'll be I'll be the ally. I'll go, I'll go black. I feel like that would be that would be an extreme to fight. I feel like a bonk. I got this dog who I do versus a bomb. Yeah. I said, go bond to troll Rayleigh a little bit. Just a little bit. Oh my god. I don't know. Try to think. Strongest person. Old Gabon could be. I think Old Gabon could be. Hey, saying black beard. Still gassing. Black beard up too. Because I mean, they go, we got in the recent chapter. Rayleigh was trading blows with email. Yeah. I am mad at it. I am mad at it. All right. Who is next? That would be OG. Fuego. You there? You know, Fuego, you do this every time, bro. Fuego, you there? Yo. How's it going? What's up, brother? Chillin, man. Chillin. You can hear me? Yeah. We can hear you. Can you hear us? Yeah. I don't know why I was coming out of my head. What's that keep, man? Make sure you mute that stream in the background. Can you hear me, bro? We can hear you. Can you hear me? Yeah. So, yo, I don't think you can hear us. Yeah. Oh, man. Yo. Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Oh, it's cooked. Oh, there we go. Fuego, you can hear me or not? You muted now. I just don't know if you can hear us. Yo. Yo. Oh, man. It's cooked. Fuego, I'm going to have to drop you, bro. Get you back in here. All right. Twilight, who was after Fuego? That would be loose dog. Loose dog. I lose you there. What's up? What's up? Nothing much. I'll get into it. All right, title card is attack on Titan. Okay. So any spoilers, I guess if y'all are anyone in the chat hasn't seen it, which if you haven't, what are you doing? Come on. All right, Seb, you are someone who likes unapologetic villains, someone like Doflamingo, someone like Conkey. And so I'm curious, what do you think about Aaron Yeager and do you think he's a villain? Okay. So I have a love-hate relationship with Aaron, man. I do. I couldn't stand the dude for basically the whole show until like the last season. And then he makes his decision and I just didn't enjoy it. So I'm trying to be as spoiler free as possible, I guess, for anybody who hasn't seen it. But I was supposed to offend him, like as a character. He was one of my, I don't say least favorite characters on attack. I'm sorry, but I just wasn't fond. Like I was like, whatever. He's the MC. I get it. But I liked him in that final season. It wasn't like four parts or whatever, but I liked him in that season. He was like doper to me then. And I just didn't agree with his, uh, the rumbling, how he used it. So, man, it's just don't want to be LaLouche. Yeah. So would you view him as a villain? Yeah, I'd say he's a villain in the end. But not a villain that like you, they're not a villain that you like compared to the other villains that I named, I guess. No, I like my villains to be evil. Aaron was like evil, but like he's doing it for love and all that. There's a lot of nuance and it's why I was curious. I'm cool with nuance. I just, I just didn't, it didn't. Okay, I'll, I'll spoiler. Sorry. Yeah, and the warning was for you to get it. - Yeah. - The love element of it is what threw me. I never felt that for Aaron and Mikasa. Like, at any point, I didn't feel that. So I was like, oh, this is what we was doing it for. I'm good, right? - I haven't heard the take really of not liking him for the first three and then really liking him in the last season. - Yeah, I was enjoying Aaron the first couple of seasons. - I mean, I wasn't, I won't say I was like in love with the character, with a character who was so mad and like just wanting to be free in this like suit, and like I was really enjoying like the mystery, but like yeah, like a character who is gonna break out at all costs, his scene with Barehold and Reiner and like the trees and everything. Just like, I think he has some great, great moments. - So the great moments for me with Aaron were always balanced off of other characters. Like even the moment with the tree, like the moment on top of the, when he fights a Reiner the first time, right? It's fire moment. The moment is Reiner and Bertold saying their tie-ins. And then the fight, he gets, I don't say he gets washed, but like, you know what I'm saying? - You lose. - Even not, not even that, no, like when he's falling, he's like, he's crying. - Yeah. - As like he's falling like, oh my God, I have to fight my best friend and is like his traitor scream. Like I thought that was a great moment. - It was. - Yeah. - I didn't rock my air like that, I just did it. I was more interested in anything Levi, anything Irwin was doing, anything the Beast tie was doing. Anything even Reiner was doing. I hated Reiner 'cause he betrayed everybody, but like I was just more interested in what they had going on. I'm just not a big main character guy. And Aaron's just not my type of MC, you know what I'm saying? - I just sympathized him, I guess. Did you sympathize with him the most or did you sympathize with someone else? Like who did you find yourself relating to the most like in those earlier seasons? - Relating to? - I guess yeah. Sympathized relate, I guess sort of like empathize with. 'Cause I guess that's why I liked Aaron, it's 'cause of all those things. Like I sympathized, empathized and related a little bit to that idea and like his ideas he was preaching. - The closest person I feel like I might have related to was that dude that was in love with the chick that ate potatoes. I forget his name. - Oh, the cook from Marley, I think. Yeah, okay. - Was it, no, no, no. - I support. - No, no, no, not him, not him, not him, not him. Maybe he wasn't in love with her. They were friends, whatever. He had to kill his mom. I forget his name. - Oh, love dude. - Yeah, love dude. - Yeah, low cut, low fade, fade, yeah. - Oh, Connie. - Is it Connie? Yeah, there we go, Connie. - Okay, that's a great pull actually. Connie's like, you know, he's pretty relatable. And he's a more, he's like, he's a pretty average dude. - Yeah, he's just like in it, like damn, we really still love. This is kind of crazy. Like dealing with the trauma of having to take his parents out, wanting to go save his mom. Like I know I would have made those decisions he was making. And he complained a little bit, but I'm a complainer a bit too. I just, I don't know, I think. - I would complain so much. I would complain more than any of that main cat. I mean, realistically, I'd be one of those people that just like died in the first season. Like realistically. Like, I mean, but that's a great pull as Connie 'cause he is kind of like, he's almost like the usop of like their little crew where he's just, but that's, that's disrespectful 'cause he's out there putting in work. But I mean, yeah, I won't, you know, I got a timer. I think I'm about approaching that limit. And so I think I'll end it right here. - Hi, man, appreciate you, bro. Hi, so what was Aaron your favorite character? - I mean, not, no, I guess you're right. It's probably like, it's either like Aaron or Levi. I mean, those are the people who are like my favorite. - That's, that's the thing. And I'm not trying to knock Aaron, right? He's a, I give him a legendary MC status. In the terms of his show was what it was. He was the main character, he was a driving force. His decision is the most talked about thing that happened in the show. But like, if you ask anybody who their favorite character and attack on Titan is, the odds that they say Aaron are so low, bro. It's Erwin, it's Levi, it's Mikasa. I've, I've seen people go with Levi's, the dude he was beefing with before I heard Aaron. I forgot his name, right? Kenny, Kenny, Kenny, yeah, I've seen Kenny. Before I got, before I got Aaron, man. So. - I like that there's a candle in my face. - Was he? - Yeah, he was my favorite. - You see my comment in YouTube chat? - Nah, what'd you say? - It was like, it was like his journey. I'm not gonna say I hate MCs who start off as the big dog. But MCs, well, we get to see the journey to becoming the big dog. And then they deliver as the big dog. Like, I love you. Like, the first three seasons, he was becoming that. And then the season four, like, if you didn't like his final decision, cool, but every decision he made before that. - Yeah, but yeah, Toby, in season four. In season four, I was, I was, you'll go, Eric, go ahead. You go crazy. I loved it. - Yeah. - I just did not vibe with him. Almost a whole way through to get to there. And he had an entire tonal shift in his character in season four. He was almost nothing like he was the first three seasons. Or two, see, whatever it was. - Right. - So. - But, I don't know. I don't know. - But that is a pretty good point. But the biggest problem I had with it is that like, I really, there is like a sort of, there's a sort of implied aspect that, like, once the season four stuff happens, that it was all, like, faded. - Yeah. - And, like, never had, like, no choice. But it's like, I think, I think for one, at TechCrunch Times, like the only series, where if you watch it the second time, it has like a completely different meeting and so many scenes, like, change. But like, I still, I remember on my second rewatch, there's like so many things, or it's like, this is like Aaron's choice. Like, he says he once, he was disappointed when he found out there was life upon the walls. He wanted it to just be like a free space. Like, he's talking about wanting to kill everyone. And he's like an angry dude, like the whole, so I think he's written, he's one of the best written MCs. But you are right in that he's not my favorite. And I guess that's just what I look for in an MC. But, yeah, I don't know, that it's, AOT has a lot of conversations that can be had. - So, I just wish I liked it. - Great, it's a great story, man. It's a great story. But I, loose, we'll drop you there. - Peace, peace, thank you for having me. - I'm gonna do this. - Alright, we got a couple super chats that came in. - We did also say that you should be good now. - He's good now, okay, cool. Alright, we got five from, oh, I already read that one. I got two from Mojojojojojox. It says Broga, his bag's pack for Kamabaka, Hashtag first class seat. What? Who do? - Sanjee, who are we talking about? - I'm talking about you. - Me? - 'Cause he said you gotta, you gotta early flight tomorrow. - Oh, oh man, not got work, man. I gotta go to Virginia. - No, it kinda sprung that army last minute. - Alright, and then we got 10, give the memberships from Project Iceman. That'll get a couple people in here. So thank you, Ice. Appreciate that, bro. Though they're not going to fix up in the chat. Alright, let's get Fuego back in here. Fuego, you there? Alright, Fuego, make sure you mute that stream in the background. - I got you. - Alright, there you go. - Yeah, we can hear you. - Stop, bro. - What's up, what's up, what's up, what's up, Tobi? What's up, Twilight? Oh boy, what's up, Tobi? Hey, said, so why did you let this man switch up the conversation on you yesterday when y'all was talking about the whole Blackbeard and the Rayleigh thing, I was like, you was good. And then Larry, I'm watching, like as I'm watching a stream, Larry's like looking down at, you could tell, he was like looking at something. And then soon he was like, yeah, I'm just waiting for a lot of stops. Or I can say this and switch the whole conversation sideways where it's like, it was another point being made. Like they still looked over your point that you had. I was like, I ain't gonna get away with that. - It's how they do, bro. It's what three of you wants, it's like. - And he'd be wondering why we be rocking, 'cause y'all be y'all be jumping my dog. I can't be there to fight with you, bro, you know what I'm saying? - I know it's not y'all brothers and stuff, it's not love. But I'd be like locked in, oh y'all. 'Cause I'd be watching and listening during work, and I'd be just like, you know, I don't be like how they'd be doing my work. - Y'all, I don't want to end up the conversation, but they say they can't hear forego. - They can't hear forego? - Yeah, the audio, it's, they, he can't be heard. It's just really low. - On my end, is that better? - I raised your volume up as bust I can. I don't know if it'll help too much. - I hope you hear me. But, uh, said, yeah, I wrote you yesterday, I said something about the cocky, I know cocky to the switch now, huh? - Listen, cocky to gold, man. I don't want to, where are you at now? Where are you at specifically now? - Um, right now, um, they're, it's, what is this called, bro, hold on, look at that. You'll be with the Chinese translation, man. Okay. I know that's the only difference because like, I know Conkey is the do a hungry on our side, but I know you say you switch stuff. They just went through some of the war and now, see, I don't know the name, see, when I say the name, this is going to throw it out low, what to do. I know you say here straight up, B-I-T-C-H. Rebuke. Rebuke. Rebuke. Rebuke. Rebuke. Yeah. Rebuke. Yeah. Rebuke. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like you, but I can't stand him. Yeah, he don't worse. He's no worse. He's conversating with them about how they can get because apparently Shane, I'm taking over too much and oh, I'm going to tell you exactly what I meant. The dude is doing his coming up, like, and he's called Shane in ours. The dude that's the king, that Shane, yeah, uh, he's saying, now he's doing his coming to, like, you know what I'm saying, his mom popped up and she, she talking about how she got a new man with kids and they put her on the front line, uh, the king's mom, yeah, so you know what I'm talking about? Yeah. I'm, I'm looking up a right now because they, they, they tell her she need to straight shins them, her son's, uh, kingdom, they got to make a choice. Like they put her, they got her kids kidnapped and said they in another room, but you know, we got control of them. So you need to take a, a strike at, you know what I'm saying right now, like, you got to go out there, kingdom right now. And that's why I'm mad, like, okay, they just told her that. So what's his, what's his face is still, uh, it's still in there real, real sweet. I don't know what his name is in, in, in the Chinese, uh, that's why it's kind of the only reason I know about Conkey because the last time we talked, I put Conkey with, uh, Han Yee. So when you said that on the, uh, the stream last week, I was like, oh, he's gonna do some creeps. Oh, man. That's my god, man, that's my, listen, bro, you got some issues with the people you choose to stay. Listen, listen, what, what Jay say long is the villain win, man? I, yes, but I also, I did want to call you out because yesterday you don't like, you don't like, uh, and then, I, so, so, so, so, so this is why, and I don't, I don't know what it is. I guess a nail just didn't work for me and how I feel about villains. He wasn't cool to me. He had a God complex and he had the lightning ability, but I felt the story of big fish little pond, right? Like I felt that and that, that resonated so much with me that I was like, I just don't like him. With black beard and dofies, like they do grimey stuff, but like, they got it out the mud or like they have a different world view where they see the world as a whole and they're trying to climb this ladder and that was like already on top of the ladder and bored and just trolling people. And I was like, like, what is that? Like I didn't care for that. Yeah, I didn't care for that. The scheming, the finessing, the grimeyness, like it's got to come from a place of like yearning for more or yearning for something. And that was just like, I don't want to go to the moon. He could accomplish his goal without any of the BS he was doing. You get what I'm saying? Like literally any of it. So I'm like, all right, now we have this God complex dude who's only really doing this because he's bored of life and wants to have friends up in space. And like in my mind, I'm like, oh, they can't even survive up there anyway. Because who knows if they can breathe in out of space or not? So like the whole, the whole art was just like, yeah, what are we doing? And the loofie's like, yeah, you can't hurt me. And he said, oh snap, I'm out. I can't stand the ugly earring to rub my bad couch with it. Nah, you good. The design was cool. I think I might, I thought the earring, the long earlobes, I thought that was cool. I thought the fit was dope. He was just whatever to me. He had dope moments with his ability, but him as a guy, I wasn't, I was a rocker with. >> I'll say that, black bear, he do a lot of underhand, a lot of underhand stuff. >> He do. >> And I mean, I used to like black bear. I ain't gonna lie to you. Until he did that to Ace, I was like, nah, I can't, I ain't wrong with it. I felt like you did something to my brother type, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, well, he did the Ace was unforgivable, but that's why I love him. >> I can't, yeah, I can't, I can't, I don't met some snakes like that in my life, you know what I'm saying? And something he places, I should have went, you know what I'm saying, doing some things I shouldn't have did. But you live and you learn, so that's why I'm big on that home like snakes, on like snitches, on like none of that. >> I feel you. >> No creeps, no backhand, I don't like none of that. >> None of that. >> I'm not winning in real life, but in a story, give me all of that, give me all, in a story, in a story, give me all of that, man. >> So they took, they took five years away from me. >> Ah, man. >> Stay prison. >> Mm. >> I can't deal with it in a story, on paper, in a coloring book, I can give me brown color. >> Like for real, but I don't care, I don't like it, I don't like it, I don't like it. >> I feel you, I feel you. >> One more thing, I know for you, you have dropped me. So I just found out, and I know y'all say to somebody, everybody having babies, but I'm having another one. >> Hey, hey, congrats. I got a boy, I'm gonna have to get in my way. >> Yeah, I got a boy, we just found out what it was, so she had to take some tests and stuff, I ain't ready to send it to too many, y'all know that's crazy, y'all know before some family members know. >> That's beautiful, man, I gotta tell Larry, he'd be so hype when he hear that about y'all, man. Yo, you got a name for him yet? >> Junior, my wife ain't letting it go, man. >> [LAUGH] I wanted to do something, I had a couple names that store, I was trying to slide something up. >> You got to add the D, man, the middle name, little middle name with the D. >> I might have to put a little four foot in there. >> Yeah, two middle names, yeah, I get it. >> Man, that's beautiful, man, truly, I know you said you have daughters now, since your first son? >> First son, bro, two is a nine boy. >> Hey, man. >> Yo, the one, yo, and now I'm gonna go ahead. >> Beep, make sure you there for him, man, you know what I'm saying? >> I'm deaf, that listen, I went through, I listen, I went through some bulls, I ain't trying to trauma them. But I went through some with pops and it wasn't around, but he was around, but he wasn't around. So I told myself when I had my first child, I never in my life, I don't care what the issue is. I don't care if he had beef, I won't never turn my back on my kids, bro. I don't care how I go, like, I'm gonna love you. >> Hey, man, I love hearing that. >> You're gonna go this way, this way. >> I always say, I put my dad through a lot. He had eight of us, and he ain't go nowhere, man. Yeah, every right too, he was terrible. He had been through his seven times before, yeah, he had been through his seven times before. And he's still a baby. >> Mm-hm. >> Wow, damn, okay, okay, you got a hold of him, yeah, that's why you bad, make sense, make sense, man. Come on, little brother, bad as hell, bro, and I know how it is, I know how it is with you, cuz like, even with your family, you said it's 80 y'all, right? >> Mm-hm, that's crazy cuz eight of us, four girls, four boys. >> Mm-hm, we ain't get the four girls, man, a lot of testosterone. >> Yeah, I get it, I definitely get it, come on, little brother, bad as hell, bro. >> Yeah, I'm trying to talk to him, you think cuz you got a kid, you can tell me what the-- >> You think they ain't even about that, man, I've been done that, man, I'm trying to say, you don't drama the trouble, like. >> Yeah, sure. >> I'm mad at you, you want to run into a wall, go ahead, I'm just trying to be there for you the best I can, you got to wake up, my brother. >> Mm-hm, I hear that. >> It ain't even, I mean, I made some bad sittings, and I don't know if he thought that was cool, I'd be trying to steer him, that's why I won't give up on him, cuz I felt like he was looking at me, so I got to, you know what I'm saying, I got to, I got to give him the real, you know what I'm saying? And now he's seeing me as a husband, and a father, and a businessman, you know what I'm saying, so that's it, I got to show you the way, but he's still be trying to slip his slide, no, no, no, this, this, this, this, this, what a money, bro, and you legal, and you, and you free, you got to worry about nobody doing nothing to you, you good? >> Right. >> You know what I'm saying, like don't worry about all that, I lost my brother over St. John, you know what I'm saying, it ain't, anybody who lives in your young man, stay out from St. John. >> That's for damn show, you don't do it, bro, it ain't work, it ain't work, and I'll be your tested lonely tool, you hear me, it ain't work, it ain't work, stay down, get your career man, go to college, work out, eat good, take care of yourself. and be there for the people that love you, that's all I can tell you. turn it back on. That's why I respect y'all in the show, bro, because y'all can go at me. I got home, bro. It's just like this. We go neck to neck and brothers like this head like you think we gonna fight every day. I swear, bro, you think we gonna fight every day? Like if we talk every normal and it's normal to us. So I know how it is, how y'all be on the show. You feel sense it. Hey, fuego, man. I appreciate you being open to honest with us about all that, man. And be that example you want for your brother, bro. You know, continue to be that, continue to be that for your son that's on the way. Congrats again. And you got, you know what I mean, whenever she has him, you got post pictures, man. I see pop of fuego, bro. I got you, bro. I definitely got y'all, definitely, bro. Look at y'all, y'all boys. I've been doing things. You know what I'm saying differently and just trying to do and I know my mom would just like another escape from me. That's what it be. I love it. I found y'all show where and I've been locked in with y'all, bro. So I appreciate y'all, man. It's just all love, bro. I don't want nobody to think I'm up here trauma-dumping and that is just stuff. Listen, that's the internet, man. They're gonna say what they say, man. Don't worry about them, bro. No, I can never do that. It's just me. It's just me. You're gonna get me this high. Wiggle. I gotta let you go. Yo, congrats again, man. You got a little boy to look after. Yeah. I mean, it's coming. I'm gonna raise a monster here. Everything I know, I'm gonna raise a monster. But I appreciate you, bro. Much love to y'all, bro. I'm probably still. I'm gonna be watching the show. So I like Toby, y'all boys. Be easy. Have a good night, man. Congrats. I'm gonna go and pick it up. Good, dude, man. Shout out to the foie go, bro. That we could fix the mic situation. Sorry if the mic wasn't too great for y'all, but I hope y'all can hear him. We did get a bunch more super chats that came in on that call. So we got 10 from Kaffa. It says, "Asef, what do you think will happen to the celestial dragons at the end of all this?" And what do you think is a proper punishment for them? And what should they do with the kids? That's a great question. They won't be punished. No, I think he will be punished. Some of them will be punished, but like the CDs are the whole, like the regular ones with the the fish ball over them. No, they'll probably try to let them go into the real world, but they won't be above everybody else. I actually do have a little mini theory that I've never crafted. I don't think I've ever been talking to the twins about this. I thought that because the celestial dragons exist in the way that they do and they think they're gods of the world, they'll either have to be educated that they're not, or they'll have to be sent off world. And the spacesuits told me that they would be told, "You giving me some static, the spacesuits told me that they might be shipped off, like they'll have to make a choice to either conform to the fact that they're not gods and live amongst the people, or they can be shipped off to the moon, where they'll end up being run basically dominated by a god that's already up there in a now." So that's where I think those are the two. No, I feel like I feel like we've kind of already got kind of a forced shadow to degree in the end of Wano. If you think about it, because wasn't that something that was happening in Wano where they had to be retaught into schools. Yeah, I think who was it? Yori was doing the play and then they had the teachers, like the new teachers kind of teaching the kids. But yeah, I think it'll come down and it's interesting because we've had different familial dynamics at play with the celestial dragons already. Shamrock, shanks, doflamengo, garling, you know what I mean, whatever. But the decisions of their parents have affected them in ways, right? So if you're a child, I know that how will you do with the kids was kind of a specific point, but I think they'll it'll just be interesting where the entire family's have to be split up or the kids will stay behind. I don't know, but I do think they'll have to make a decision, but it won't just be like execution block. I don't think dragons the type to do that. I don't see anybody that's on the good guy side doing all that. I don't see the Marines doing all that. I don't think impel down is the answer either. I do think there will either be a conform conform is probably too strong word, but change your ways, change your perspective or go to the moon. So how do you get there? I don't know. I don't know exactly how we get there, but yeah. Remember what I just said kids shouldn't have to pay for what you do. So I don't think the CD should have to pay for what Emo and everybody else taught him, you know, saying so. And they don't think there's an Emo. So once they find out or two, right, it's gonna be completely right. But to me, I just know that there will be a lot crap. I try to make a poll. I know there will be a lot of them that still want to have lived the life that they're living currently, right? Like a large majority, that's probably 95% of them might be like, yeah, I don't care that Emo was dominating the world in the way that he was. I want to be able to live the way that I want to live. I want to have slaves. I want to have this and that. And they're just not going to be able to have access to that anymore. So what do you do then? What do you do when that happens? Yeah, that's interesting. I don't think we're going to find out that much. So behind this, like, I don't think one piece, I don't think there's going to be a one piece part two where we see how the CDs get defend into the world. But I think they're going to, I don't know, they're going to do something where like the CDs are being satisfied. But they're not going to be like living above the world and stuff like that, you know, like, they're not going to be separate. I think they're going to be thrown into the world. They might get to own the island. Hey, go to the moon, Toby. Hey, I'd like him to think, Hey, I wouldn't be mad and they got sent out to the to the moon and have to like face the nail and that would be funny. I would love that. But like the theme, I don't know, man. Well, Roger said, I think it matters, bro. I think it matters. That's true. That's true. All right. We got another two from Nico L. Conkey is rising up my favorite right now up the chapter 740. Hey, man, he only going to get higher. You feel me? I know it's why I be hating you don't want to know. I was going to say something, but that'd be a little a little too out of pocket on stream for what I what I felt what I felt at a. Okay, I'll say this because you'll get this without me giving anything away at a certain point. I did not feel bad at all. See, see, see, I don't want to say that. No, that's all I'm saying. I just did not feel bad at all. Hey, man. There. Another two from Larry's biggest hater. Kite versus post LBF Sangian Zorro. What if post LBF? I'm going Sangian Zorro, man. And I'm going to go hide the. You are nasty, bro. I'm a nasty individual, sir. I'm a nasty individual, bro. No comment. No comment. No post LBF? No, no, no, no, they may be locking up the. That's kind of that's kind of and I'll give I'll give it just out of respect mid death. I'll go I'll go extreme just to be just to appease y'all. I got high hopes for these people, bro. These are the wings of the pirate king, man. We in the end game, they get. They get lectures and looking. Gabbard just told him, you're not there yet. He's just told him that. Hey, man. To be one. To be one, man. They're going to have advanced conquerors, hockey, coding, attacks. Zorro stood back and assisted with that. He just found out what that was. He's going to be by the end of LBF. That's what I'm telling you. Is that what the what's the call said? The super chat. It said post LBF. So after LBF. Post LBF? Yeah, maybe if Gabbard, maybe they do that against the Holy Knights. I don't know. Maybe. Let's see. Even then. I don't know. Let's see. I don't know. It's time. Maybe. It's time. It's time. We'll see. I will hope that you're right. If Zorro becomes that strong, I'll hope that you're right. But I don't think it's going to happen. It's no. We did another $50 super chat from Trent, young bull Trent. Thank you, bro. Appreciate you, man. It says, hope y'all doing well. I'm ready because I got a good two questions. Hashtag topped on top. Hashtag said likes the troll. I love the troll. Hashtag Blackbeard is mid. Hashtag Trent. The ghost. You can't hashtag yourself the goat Trent Kid you know the funny thing is he's not even in the call in anymore He was he was second. He was too ahead is no he's not in he's not in anymore Sorry, man, I mean pull back up Trent, you know, you know, we always you're still you still you still in line technically Passes your turn. I mean 50 dollars. Super chat. He might skip the line bro. Pull up the other two fair from Nico hockey and and he shouldn't just left from Geon and he could okay Okay All right, see I don't want to say that for the people for those of you out I don't know re-cane them Had kingdom go did you came to? And crows yes, and it was where you are worst Twilight. I haven't even started yet I started again. I started rereading dance terrible Re-reading dance is crazy. Um No, then nine months and not much that is from C2X's Yo, do y'all think shanks knows Gabon killed Magnolia? Um, I Feel like this came up on stream once before I'm gonna go know I'm gonna go. Yeah, you know, yeah Hmm I mean It's just something I feel like I mean, it's not like he's Luffy and just doesn't care about his lineage, which is the main reason I feel like the chance of him knowing it are probably pretty high I see I assume Bing Wait, what is he the holy night? He's about No, no, this is mom. Yeah, that's a mom. Yeah, that's thanks mom. Oh God Tell me what are you saying bro? Garling took out shanks his mom Magnolia I got I got the super chess at the bomb. Oh Okay, okay I just I assume the conversation probably came up and Garlings not necessarily somebody who's gonna be ashamed to say oh, yeah Nah, I took her out cuz so and so with being in the holy land what he probably would have found out But head cannon They were two young never remember the mom's song sure Garling replaced the mom and they probably think someone else is the mom Die very much doubt that one I think that's why because that's wasn't that what he was trying to do anyways. Are you trying to get a new wife? Yeah, who knows if he got another one or not. Oh, yeah, no, I was gonna say the reason he took her out was because you refused to go back No, I share no, isn't it? No, I wanted a new light. No, he was just like yo. I'm replacing you with Jackie Yeah, yeah, and he took her out So I wouldn't be surprised if he just replaced them was like, oh, this is your mom Because who I remember who's gonna tell him otherwise and that's that's the other thing like shanks is already when he when he comes into contact Garling. He's already like what? 18 or whatever years old You know, yeah, they probably like to share him off his whole life Probably have a place I'd be older now. I'm about old. He was when he came he was like a little baby holy night or whatever We assume it's after the mehawk fight. So he's probably like 16 Hi, we got another two from Project Iceman on one hand spare the CD's kids on the other Dofi I mean Dofi can go he's saying that if you spare the kids they could be calm. Dofi At least that's how I interpret it. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Dofi can just go See but that's the thing though. I don't think that they could be but I feel like Dofi is just so far gone So I here's a thing mindset. Here's a thing. I don't think homing did enough To educate or change the way Dofi mingo thought like he didn't put the work in to do that at least that wasn't highlighted to me brother When did he have the time? I'm saying before they even left Before they even left you have to change you you can't bring the kid from y'all got slaves and I get everything I want to to okay now will educate you he should have already been putting in the work to change Dofi mingo's view before they even left the whole you live Am I be? It's just it's just crazier to me the die the dynamics between Dofi and Corazone I Raised in the same household nature versus nurture debates, right? Exactly That economy of it Me and my brother the same way we were raised Same household but completely different. So I happened I do Should I got I got eight brothers, bro. We we not all alike put it that way Now the five from Kafa I'm gonna need the CDs to be the new slaves real real ish hashtag. What better they got to do see I just don't envision them Being put to slavery like I don't think that's odors answered like y'all now y'all the slaves like I don't I don't think that's gonna be what he does They might deserve that some of them do deserve that you know, but And it's don't I don't think that's what is answered to what happens to the slush of dragons We got another two from swagger Where's my guy Jozu L.O.L. and Shamrock um? I don't know man. I've always said it'd be better off if so Jozu is dead and that dealt with what this somebody who's gonna like play a role in the final arcs Namely like a blackberry pirate. I thought it would be cool. I think a lot of people thought this in the past that sure you would have a diamond sword and Zora would have to cut through that, you know But yeah, I don't know Truly don't know But I let's get back to it Thank y'all again and hit that like button if you haven't already if you guys want to be a member of these calling streams become a tiered member on the discord Twilight who is next? Son it you dare Yo, son it. I hope you're feeling comfortable this week. You know, I'm saying I know there was some conversation About comfortability last week Yeah, that was last week. That was the pass bro. You good. Okay. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome. Awesome All creeds and codes are welcome here. Well, oh, yeah, maybe I got orio. Maybe not all Like a orio Galgation said like a orio bro The real estate I came on here just to troll but Who I go spark two things in me. Okay, I didn't write anything down somewhat bad But the first thing is about kingdom and I was catching up to kingdom. I got to chapter 670 so no spoilers please let me go to 670 real quick, man. I know exactly where you are I was there like who else in a month ago. I know I think I remember exactly where he's at Go ahead Oh, yeah, my man. I have a question. I just hear me out, okay? So For the people that didn't read kingdom or didn't catch up my bad for the spoilers, but this is hilarious chapter So she didn't he became a general and my heartache is I Think he's I think he is and Twilight don't get mad at me. I think he's a terrible general Not to get mad at that very fair Yeah, right if I'm being completely honest My quick take if it wasn't for also over already fast and spoiler announcement If it wasn't for 10 he'd be an ass general It to me it depends on how you view Generals and their responsibility In this right because as bad as shit is at times of making decisions and things He's not that different from Lucy You know Hey, look at look at what that's got in Luffy right now Look at look at where it's got right now But spoilers aside Yeah, I mean some people just know that they need to lean on other people or know that they need to rely on the other like the strengths of others the the Like shin has his shortcomings and he understands that he recognizes that and leans on kio kai leans on 10 leans on his more experienced commanders and stuff to assist I mean, I'm trying to remember exactly where we are right now um But shins like the instinct general. He's not strategizing which is in my opinion weighed more heavily in kingdom as a whole. The strategy general. general that sees the battlefield and game plans around it. Shin kinda attacks it head on and knows where to go and will be clutch to make sure that they win the day or win the situation. He's talented enough to win those fights, but in terms of overall just being a general, he's pretty minute, I ain't even gonna lie to you. I love him, but he's just not great. - Yeah, I love him. I love the high shine, high shine unit, my dad. But he's just completely incompetent. And I hated that people put him in the same tears. What's his face? Mootin, Mootin or whatever. - Oh, ho, ho, ho. - He's hot. I love him like, fuck now. (laughing) - See, I feel like it's not out of pocket to say. Like I feel like he would technically a young Mootin. - Yeah, I just think he just can't, no. - No, I'm not Mootin. I'm not Mootin, oh, ho. - Oh, ho. - All right, my face, end of the day. - No, no, 'cause they're the same age. I'm talking about, he'll do, do, do, do, do, do, do. - Okay, yeah, he's like a young, do, do, do, do. - He has the potential to be at that level, especially with what has been said about instinct-driven generals, how they're the toughest, because there's no strategy that really works against them when they get going, 'cause it's just chaos, basically. - I will say, oh, man, I will say, Sonic, give it some time, 'cause he also grows in the elements that you're thinking that he lacks. He grows there too. - No, yeah, 100%. - That's the thing that I feel like I got Shin over Luffy as a main character is just simply because you see the growth, like you see a lot of growth. - Yeah, Luffy's the definition of a stagnant character. Shin grows, you know what I mean? Luffy's already who he is, and like his being is supposed to be infectious, that's the point. Shin grows, Shin sees he learns from his mistakes, maybe not all the time, but he learns, he becomes a better general over time. He becomes more introspective over time. I'm thinking back to a specific arc. See, I don't wanna spoil another, but-- - Yeah, I was gonna say, I have to remind you that's like-- - You know what I'm talking about, right? - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - We were talking about-- - I don't know. - Yeah, but to be honest, at this point for me, he just basically accused me so that 10 points at the enemy command, calling him a tactical instructor or genius, just the part of masking the fact that he refused, it's to read a book on basic warfare. - Hey, man, it works. - Look at his resume, right? Even when you're at, look at his resume, right? - The fire's all he needs. - Fire, right? - It works, it works. - I guess, well, I guess. - And now the second thing was, I don't know if there's trauma dumping, but fully it goes back to my head. And I just wanted to say, you know, the community, the community in God, yeah. I appreciate y'all. I don't think y'all would actually understand the grasp of how I'm kind of appointed you are to people's lives, you know. Like you bring joy, you bring situation that people can understand, you bring love, you bring laughter, and I just wanna say, we appreciate you or at least I do. - Thank you, man. - From last week's messaging to this one. - How we, what did I do in a week, son? - Wow, switch up. - What did I do? - Just, just trauma going to the bruh. You know, people go to a shit and y'all just make us forget about it for a few hours, man, that just one time to say. - Awesome, man. Well, I'm not even gonna come at you for cursing just now. What? - No, my bad, man. - You're good, man. - My bad, Mr. Hurley, my bad. - I'm glad we could be that, man. And I know when we started this, it was just, hey, man, let's talk, let's talk one piece, let's have fun with it. But we get messages like this every so often, and I have to acknowledge it. It's just become a bigger thing. - Yeah, it does. - When I first started talking to my girl, and I'm gonna trauma up a little bit here, I guess this is in trauma. This is a positive dump. She asked me what my legacy is going to be. I had to really think about it. I had to really think about what the answer to that question is. And I landed on top. This'll be what I'm most known for. This'll be what people remember me for. And I'm glad that these are the comments that we get from y'all in regards to that. So. - Yeah, I was just, you mentioned in that before, the story about how large a part of my life tops been. - Oh, man. What's on it? Thank you for the kind words, man. You gonna make a grown man cry up here? - Hey, that's what I'm gonna do, bro. - Have a good one, bro. - Have a good one. - Oh, man. My man said he wasn't comfortable last week though. He almost got bent. - He backed up. - He saved it. - All right, who's next? - Now the young boy. I see him back there. - Hey. - Young boy, Trent, you there? Trent, you there? - Yo. Trent, don't do this, man. - He even says he's all, oh. - He's trying. I see him going, he's not new. - I'm gonna drag him down, bragging back up. Trent, talk to me. There we go. What up, bro? - What up, man? - Chillin, bro. Thank you for the large dono, man. Appreciate that. Truly. - You a little low for us, man. I can't really hear you. - Hello. - No, no. I'm having a, I'm deciding back in the word game. - Oh, no, you good? - All right, you said, you're super-testin, you got two questions. What's going on? - All right. So first off, I think you know what time, I think you know this, I'm coming back to the 1D1's real clip. - Okay. - Just because, I don't know, that look, how good or how far does Bullit go in the new world? 'Cause like, I think Bullit versus Kido would be a dog fight. If, because in scenarios, Bullit is just a dog. He's a dog. And I'm not done now. I'm gonna still say, in my opinion, I still got Kido. But I was, I'm just saying like, I think there's some yonko out there that Bullit could be. And if he read the yonko gauntlet, like, just saying, it's not like he's not winning. In my opinion. - So if he's in the new world, I don't think there's any like first command, is that could defeat him. If he ran a yonko gauntlet, assume he starts with Blackbeard or Big Mom, right? Is he defeating either of them? - Well, he's defeating Blackbeard. I say, what I'm thinking is, he defeats Blackbeard. He, him and Big Mom will go at it. But I don't think that him and Luffy's just gonna be a flip of the coin. Because if Luffy's fighting how he is right now, - I think, I think Luffy now beats Bullit. I can go there. - Yeah, but if he keeps playing around, like he does with his food like right now, but like, or even just an egghead like when he was, I mean, Bullit couldn't, Bullit could end it. - I don't know, I just know he's not, he's not beat Kido or Shanks for sure. Like, it's just Big Mom. - The thing about it is, that assimilation ability is kind of broken, man. I'm not gonna lie. It took a lot to put him in a position to even be vulnerable. Now I believe that most of the Yonkel can get him to that point. And like Blackbird has the hacks of like, the Gurra as well as the Yami to like, the gate, some of that. But in general, like, the dude's hacks is crazy. He, he, he backhanded like five vice admirals and they got put, like that was crazy. Um, like even just the sheer, even the sheer size of what he can do when he does the full assimilation, like he was, he was bringing down like island size punches, you know what I mean, like, or least near it. So. Uh, Lionel thinks, uh, who said, I don't think, no, I think he said, what was it, uh, cat could be them. Oh, yeah, that was crazy, bro. I'm, I'm, look, man, I love my brothers. I was, but that was insane. Now, look, man, I'm going to say this about, and I love Lionel. He's, you know, he's, he had normally that we all get, but like. He doesn't have takes like the future. Hey, man, what's it? He's been working, he's been working a lot, you know, I don't know if. I don't know if Lionel ever told you how he does, but he's a diesel fuel mechanic. So maybe the fuel, the diesel fuel. No, that diesel, like, this is about, that was about as bad as when. Uh, Law said Rayleigh could be Kazaru on sob-o-d. Hey, man. They gonna start bringing those up again because good boss started showing up. That's the thing. But it's not going to work. I'm waiting for that day because. Yeah, I'm saying. All I'm saying is, I don't want to hear it. That's not happening back then. And. I listen to that every day, just, just to be like, you know, I can't wait for the day that he's on the call and stream. It'll happen. It'll happen. It's happened before, if I remember. Oh, no, he still has it. He's still not ducking this faith that I had for when he said Rayleigh and Gabon are just stronger than Ross. He's still not ducking that faith. Me and him still have that that we have to talk about because there's no way. I remember getting on stream and talking to him about it, but he's not running away. I'm not done yet. He didn't let me get my side out. No, I'm not done yet with that. That was crazy. You're talking about the same guy that yeah, you know, I don't want to hear. And then said, you know, I always every now and then I got to bring it up. What's up? You know, I was about that's about Dofi again, man. I think it's over. It's not over, bro. It's over. I think seven. I think it's over, man. I think it is. Seven, seven. Honestly, I don't know why right now, but I feel like the cross guilt's over. I haven't heard. What's the light? Trent, you got to have faith, bro. I think there's a difference. Have I sent you this? Let me see if I can find an ascended to you, man. The cross, what the cross guilt would look like? I built an actual yonko crew for the cross guilt. And it includes a lot of members. So it would be their first commander. See the moment, the moment Miha join the cross guild. We ain't seeing. We ain't seeing ish from the cross guild. And that's what I'm saying. Miha gets an interview says, showing the cross guilt. He for me to the cross guilt, which is why it's going to be irrelevant. Yeah, so disrespected. Bro, look, I'm just saying if Luffy was, I mean, if Dofi was coming back. Like it would have been by now. Like we're as y'all, like we keep y'all keep talking about it. We're going into endgame right now. This ain't the Avengers. He ain't coming, but like. Let me switch over, bro. Can you see my scream? Maybe not. Maybe not. Y'all see this? Yeah, let me zoom in. Me zoom in. It's gone again. There we go. Cross guilt task force. I this the game. This it will happen. So first of all. Oh crap. It's gone again. Cats in there. Cats in there. I'll put cat in there. Alright, Dofi in there. Moria in there. The the Vince smoke family in their Caesar queen. The docky Holti family. We will stussy. All of them. Just to do nothing. Listen to the same fantasy, the same fantasy football, bro. Listen. Don't make me out. Boa, bro. I'll add boa too. Don't don't act up. She wouldn't need one. Don't disrespect my girl like that. All right. Listen. I'm adding her now. She can add it. No way. That's disrespectful. You know, at least my at least my main girls in in there. Who who's that? Piranha. Piranha too. Piranha in there. She in there. No. Oh wow. Damn it. No, she would be chill with me. Hawk. Okay. Okay. Who said that? Who said that was your main girl? I did. I don't think that's my brokers. It's mine and brokers. Okay. Listen. I don't see. I don't see you putting her on the top one. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hold on. Nobody ever asked me anything. I nobody ever asked him. Hey, nobody, you know what? Maybe if I get put in these conversations, y'all hear my top. Hey, I got a top 20. We're not about to hear you list 20 women now, Trent. I'm not going to. I'm just saying. Why not? I got what I'm told you. I don't got the time today, bro. I got a hard stop. I like a 15 bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. With that in mind, if your career, if career house, not in the top five, listen, ballad. Kareha. You're no. Yeah. First of all, sir, this is my lens. Okay. Trent, Trent, just just hit. Give me what? Give me your top five real quick. And then we got to get out of here, bro. All right. We got Perona at once. We got. Whoa. I'm not a Perona guy. Her laugh is terrible. Okay, whatever. I'm too far out. PG. PG. Otherwise, I would have said some to too. Too. Too. Too. Too. I've heard at two. Okay. We back. Let's back. Let's back. Robin at three. Okay. I got Boat for. Okay. And then this is going to be a crazy one, but Tuskegee at five. It's the glasses. I am mad at the sheet, bro. She wouldn't top five for me, but I like to shoot you, bro. It's top sheet. It's the glasses. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know why I feel like in Larry's top five blue grass would be in there purely because of the double fruit. No, he's got big, big bomb. I don't even know what my top five one piece bad. He's got a. I still got a. I still got a clip of Larry said that he was going to have that he was eating his oats. Bro, I said, I'm going to have everybody fond and over me. I was like, bro, I can't wait till Larry actually waits and opens this. Oh my gosh, bro. You know, send me that. I got y'all said to you, bro, it was you weren't even there. You weren't even there. He was talking about how he was letting me like ice fights. Oh my god, he told it. I've got a lot in the chat. He said, don't nobody clip that, but I had already done the damage. Yeah, but I was said to you. Do that. Trent, thanks again for the 50 bro. I appreciate you. I'm going to get Lawrence on here one of these days, bro. Oh, yeah, I can't wait. I can't wait. You better. I'm a trick. You better like. Oh, yeah, for sure. You better like do like a 30 minutes segment. No cap because it's going to be bad. Like I'm like, I don't think y'all understand like I've gone the past videos and like tried to detail stuff out of there that he would go back on. And I just like how he was in one video talking about how was rocks was top one to go back and say that. Hmm. Look at him now. Hey, I do it for all of y'all now. Don't worry. I got. Don't do it for me. Yours is just black beer. Don't stop me. I don't do it. It's people people though that though already. You're going to do it for black beer. So like. But I try. But Larry's is bad. Larry's is terrible. I can list Larry's top five myself already. This bad, bro. No, I told you one last week how he said. Yeah, Seba said that Frankie's light beams are the same as he's ours. He be so I went back and looked at that. I looked. I looked at that video and it was him arguing with you for like 20 minutes saved that they were the same as his. Okay, you know, I have a question about that. Yeah. Was was he just saying that they're the same. was he saying like, talking about power level? >> Same everything, that's what he was saying. >> Same speed, that's the thing I don't understand. He's not necessarily wrong, the speed of light, it's the speed of light. >> No, he was talking about just everything in terms of power too. >> Power is wild. >> I'm trying to remember, we got that admiral go, and then you got Frankie. >> I'm trying to remember what the, it was like a queen conversation. >> Because I was saying, he's done the light beams. He was like, so what, Frankie got light beams. And I was like, it was something along those lines. >> It's also different utilization of light in general. So yeah, and then just everything. I can't wait, that's the next person though, after law it's layering, and it's going to be bad. Well, Trent, I gotta let you go man, but you have a good night. >> All right, thank you. >> All right, thank you, I'll say. >> Dang, I always cut him too short, shout out to Trent. I hope you can see my cross-gilded powerhouse video or page there, shout out to the boys, man. Toby, did you at me, bro? >> Which one is my top five, bro? >> It's top five, Yamato Robyn Stussy, Dal Nami, get Yamato out of there and it's W list, man. >> Hello, you're not a real tree climber, bro, just saying. >> Nah, if I'm going tree climbing, I'll put it riply up there. >> Yeah, you talk about tree climbing, I'll see Ripley or Gurd in there. >> Both, both deserve. >> Oh my god, oh my god. >> Are you spell it, G, E, R, H? >> Sounded out, R, D? >> Is G, E, R, D I think, I don't think there's an H in there. >> Yeah, it's G, U, R, D. >> You, I think it is, it's either you or me. >> You got top five, though, you got top five. >> Get Yamato out of here, bro. >> Yamato looked better than her. >> Mm-hm, yes. >> Yeah, I see you saying you got Yamato all to yourself and chat, Toby, you got that mixed up. Yamato got you. >> Yamato. >> We both know. >> All right, we visit Ace's grave once a month for "Motor Look Before" and that's it. >> That's crazy, that's crazy. >> You gonna dog his girl out and go to his grave, bro? >> No, he's to the state on one off, you wouldn't have heard that bad. >> You got to remember Toby's a YB fan, it's on, it's on, on par. >> I'm showing you for defamation, buddy. >> All right. >> It's wildlife, who's next? >> It would be Tyler. >> All right, bet. >> Well, actually, hold on. We had a couple super chest that came in. We got five from Edwin. It's this fresh out of a 10-year relationship and you and the boys help me so much. Hashtag love y'all, hashtag BBC, hashtag white tags, hashtag top on top. Amen, that sucks. I hope you don't feel like it was waste, you know? You had your moments with them. Hopefully, there was enough good ones, and hopefully your next one is your last one. And you don't got to worry about 10 years, this or 10 years that, you know? Another five from Tyler to Dunn. Tell these monsters to stop yapping, you're going to put us on rapid fire. We already on rapid fire, low key Tyler. I ain't going to lie. Like, we've been on rapid fire from Jay from first call, five minutes. So my fault, I just got stuff I got to do tomorrow. Anyway, um, who next? You said Tyler, wasn't yeah, Tyler down, I think we'll, we'll man if I remember right. Tyler was going on, bro. Amen. It's rapid fire as you, as you already know, man, of course, of course it is. All right. Well, you already know what I'm on, so all right, let's get it. Let's get it. Oh, let me switch, let me switch, let me switch, let me switch. Let's get it. All right, we spent it, we spent it, we spent it, we spent it. All right. Who was, oh, there's a three is Twilight Toby. Yeah, we all yeah, all right. Yeah, they're the usual. All right, who won last time? Is he in here? I got one W last time. Yeah, no, I didn't think I did. Am I lying? No, no, you didn't, no, he didn't, he didn't, he didn't last time, last time. No, he got, I got, I got, yeah, it was bad, it was bad. It was real bad. All right, you want to, who's no jica? I'll go first this time. All right, Twilight, Twilight's first though. Fuji, Tara, oh, man, he probably won just with that. No, come on. Nah. Nah. There's a lot to be back to being foodie Torah. Alright, who's getting who's getting this one? See, bro. Uh, Toby. I, I think this. Okay, dude. Oh my god. No, that's your guy, bro. Yo, Toby, I'll trade. I'll trade whatever I get. I'll trade both my picks. Toby, Toby, Toby, Toby, Toby, Toby, I'll trade both my picks and my skit, bro. I will, I will win the y'all. Oh my god. I forgot what you said. Let's go. Let's go on the rules. He said he's saying down, bro. That's not part of the rules. Oh my god. Yo, I'll make it tiny. I think it kind of look good. That's crazy, bro. You're going to get black beard or bullet, don't worry. No, I'm not, bro. Oh, now, oh my god, bro. You want a skill? He's, he's quality enough. He ain't doing nothing. He's fired. He ain't doing nothing and he's dudes, but he got something. I think lightning could mess foodie Torah up a little bit. Bro, let's pack watch, bro. Be for real. Alright, alright, Twilight. See what I get second. Oh, El Meppo kid. Oh, okay. Oh god. I lost. He is. He's nice. You got foodie, Torin. Kid, you got a crazy combo. Oh, man. Toby. It's totally pulls black beard or bullet. It's crazy. Richie. Richie. Okay. At least I clear that. I don't know who that is. I think I lost. Yeah, who's rich? Is that the dog, the lion from Buggies Crew? No way. You won. Yeah, I think you got the lion from Buggies Crew. No, am I true? Isn't it worthy too? Yeah, you got the lion. I knew it. I knew it. I knew it. Oh, my god. You should have kind new, bro. You lucky. You ain't selling kind of, bro. Yeah, you haven't got to be even over. Yeah, I said, you need a saving grace right here. Well, I clear Richie, at least. And yeah, I would probably say I'd be a kid. You can get mine. Oh, yeah. Skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip, skip. Oh, Toby, you should, you should skip, bro. Oh, yeah. I forgot about those. I forgot about two. Oh, no, oh, no. Let's go. We back. We back. We back. Okay. We back. And now and Ben Beckman. We back, bro. We back. And now and Ben. I think that's two. Well, we don't know if he has like future cyber. He's got crazy observation. No, man. I still win this surprisingly. I don't know, man. A kind of, yeah. I know beats all, I mean, it's a free for all too. So like, a kind of a foodie tour are going to be beefing. You know, I'm saying they, they beat for sure. They already. Right. Kid already. Kid already loses to Ben Beckman. He did it. Yeah, we already, we already, we already got W's over this way, right? This is a tough matchup. I'm sure it's all going to come down. It's all, it's all going to come down. Yeah, let's be real. We need to pull, bro. Do you think foodie tour could, do you think foodie tour could get one up on a kind of? Let's be real. I think foodie tour could hurt a kind of enough toward Ben Beckman, could beat him. No, I disagree. No, Toby, you're not using your skip sold you, bro. You literally any other character. Yeah. Yeah. Any decent cat that I win the game. Oh, man, that's a, I think so. I don't know. I don't know. I think there's anything twilight guy. He, I'll sleep on kid. Oh, wait, wait, wait. Oh, yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like if we're going off, you guys talk about kid, I win. Dude, it's gravity and magnet, magnetism. Yeah. Like, that's crazy. Yeah, that's. That was last to my theme. We'll see, bro. Imagine kid shoots his laser and then foodie tour, like, bends it around and hits you in the back. Like it also calls down a couple meteors at the same time. Oh, man, hard, hard sticking the way the shots talk about a no in this, you know, I mean, I wish Larry was here. Yeah. Yeah. No, that's what I'm saying. Like, I'm, I'm also saying, like, a no has, like, there's a, there's an avenue for a no. I don't know. I think, I think twilight want to know what I think about it. You know, see deep down in my heart. I think a kind of wins, right? But that's because your bias. He does. Yeah, he just I can't do solo. There's no, there's no version. You know, let me shut up. Come try one. Right. I'm trying to pull the pole. So are we saying to me? Somehow Seb is winning. And he has a it's a tie. Oh, okay. Yeah, everyone. There it is. That's what we're saying. It should be me a twilight. There's no way Seb is winning. Hey, man. No, it's it's me and Seb right now. It's it's fluctuating. It should be me a twilight as well. I'm about to go to YouTube and vote real quick. Hold up. Yeah, I think I think you guys are under 18, man. Dude, he's got to be someone. No, I definitely don't regret. Ben. All right. If we're saying shank. We're saying ad rules are below young goes. Or yeah. No, no, no. I was not above low young goes. That's commandees. But they're above first commanders. Yeah. And kid is above an ounce. Shanks is the strongest young go. So you don't think Ben could like face off. I mean, he scared the cause. He can. All right. So I'm voting for you. He can. He can. But he can. That's real. That's real. That's real. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Kill of you with this. This is a kind of hate, bro. A kind of a kill Richie. Just because he a pirate. You don't matter. A kind of a kill Richie himself, bro. Everybody gets a kill his team. No, it's time. This is a three. There's a three way tie. Next vote. Okay. Hold on. It's a three way tie. But I voted for Toby. So that doesn't count. So Toby lost. I long. I voted. I'm just man. I'm just man. Don't take it away. Hey, Twilight took it. Twilight took it. Twilight took it. I'm except Twilight. 25 votes is a good number. Twilight. You took it by one vote. Yeah, that was my one vote. That was a good match. Yeah. I like that word. All right. That was a good one. All right. We run it again. Get first. Yeah. Pilot. Yeah. Hey. I mean, there's something there. I mean, I guess. You want to start tactical? Actually, yeah. Yeah, I'll skip. I'll skip for a while. He's the skip. Just no tactical like battle. Use for her. Oh, no. Oh, no. I got some worse. Yes. Oh, my god. Oh, gosh. Okay. Wait, who are you? You got Rika. It's, uh, it's the little girl from Shells Town, man. Oh god. Toby got Ripley. Okay. Got a giant. I'll take that. I don't want to get jealous. Hey, it's a giant. That's better than that. Listen, she's been taking Conqueror's Hockey, Schmidt for years. You're right. Yeah. Leo. You want to skip? I'll take Ripley. I want to get jealous. I'm skipping Leo, bro. Yeah, I'm skipping. I would skip Leo as well. Give me some. Give me some. Oh, how's rooting? I'll take it. Okay. Is that even better than Ripley? Didn't Leo? Yeah. It's a little bit. That's way better. That's way better. How's rooting the son of an agent? Got the bad parts of that agent. Yeah. Alright, Twilight. Let's see what you get now. I got to get a rocks or somebody to even stand a chance in this roto. You want to skip? Do I get another skip? Did you already use the skip? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was going to say. You got my, you got, you got my support. Yeah, I'm out. You got my hardy losses. roto and Rika. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You might be cooked. I'm, oh, no, it's not might be. I have cooked. Alright, Twilight. Thank you. It's my turn, right? Yep. Joe's. That's a good one. I'm taking that. I'm taking that. You got a giant and a diamond man. Okay. So I need to be stronger than Joe's who is what I need. I need something crazy, right? Not crazy, but something good. Judge. Yeah. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Let me quarterback this. Okay. Okay. Okay. Does he get germa? I'm saying, can I summon my kids? Yeah. No. Okay. His kids are on here. I can, I can summon clones, though, right? Yeah, no, you get the clones. You get the clones. Is that helping him beat Joe's, though? No. Harrod is not. Joe's stopped a mehawks slash. Yeah. I was going to bring that up too. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. But but Joe's you also got frozen by a key. He's ice. Judge, experimental stuff. You know, he got weapons. He got. Have we ever seen him use ice? It's fair and reasonable speculation. He's a scientist. Said he got frozen by candy. Listen, man, he gave his weapons up for that. They was at the wedding. He got stuck in a he got stuck in some jolly ranchers, man. All right, so Twilight, you already out. Yeah, I'm yeah, I'm out. I was told he's got you out. You out too, self. Yeah, yeah. Who do you have? Josu and who and Ripley Ripley and Ripley. Yeah, and I got a judge that Josu. Hey, man, he calls to the Ripley. Listen, Brian. I mean, all right, can we say how Jordan beats Ripley? Yeah. And then can smoke Josu. Was out. No, no, Josu being everybody there. Okay, you might be. You might be. Joseph's not. He's not crazy. Judge got some some heat to fight, right? Judge. Hold on. Judge for a y'all go division, man. He fought snack. And if I remember correctly, it happened when the snack do. Listen, he's a y'all can't come back. Snack snack. I got nothing on Joseph, by the way. So you just you just made an argument against yourself. Hold on, by the way. Toby's winning 75%. Oh, wow. Let's go. Listen, man, listen. Yeah, sleeping on New German, man, Nioh, Mads, man. No, man. No, I'm not. I voted for you, Seb. What's crazy is when I was making this, I was talking to villain and I was like, I'm putting judge. Should I put judge and germa or just judge? And they were like, no, that's too much. Just put judge. Yeah, what's Joseph's a bounty, bro? That's got to be a bill. I'm going to go. I need to go. Follow what his bounty is, man. Joseph. Oh, we don't even know. Unknown bounty, man. Unknown bounty. Unknown, man. They estimated that in between 800,000 and 1.2 Bill, a mill thought to me. Come on, man. Judge, I never touch a mill. Even if you go across, dude, get him out of here. I don't know if judge is getting past the 1.2 billion S. Yo, who is the 37% voting for seven? Listen, okay, man. Scientist, scientist. Glazers, science, man. Hey, man. Hey, man. They love the host, man. I generally, I've seen Joseph get stopped by by Doflamingo Strings in Parasite. Hey, man. He couldn't move. Moves everybody here. I mean, that's not true. Yes, he does. Yes, he does. Yes, he does. In this battle, yeah. Yeah, he do. Yes. You know what? Hold on now. Okay. Here we go. Hold on, man. Hold on. How many clones judge got? That's my point. How many people don't believe it on judge? How many did he have in here? Don't matter. Yo, don't close that. Need a move as full. Is he about to pre-skip Naruto and spawn a thousand clones and just overwhelm them? Joseph, Joseph tries to get to just, just says, wall, puts a little poison up. Then what? Rip, Ripley, that phone just threw it. Oh, yeah. Ripley's going to be busy fighting, Hazard. Ripley not going to fight Hazard, man. We switching up on on Josu anyway. Oh, Ripley's going to switch side. Yeah. You reach him. You reach him. Hey, he did it on me. He did it on me before. That got me 71%. Yeah. Yeah. I think. Go. Go. We got it. All right. Go, man. It's where I'm rep of fire. I'll, I'll head out, but I'm going to try and make it again next week. Well, I got to say, we got to set, we got to set something up in the discord to have like a weekly night of like getting pairs and doing this. I'll, I'll do it. I'm, this is just super fun. I'm after six o'clock Eastern. Okay. Tyler. So have a good one. Hey, you guys, you guys have a good night. Have a good one, bro. Peace. that's always fun every time you're all in two except I never win these things bro he got he won with the week that uh don't we know it wasn't even the week that next one as it was the next time after that he went undefeated that that day that was when Larry was on I think um all right we got a couple more super chats I guys I got I do guys start hurrying it up because I got to get out of here soon uh we have five from Vincent Chan's animator I think it says has NYC anime nerd gung yet also Blackbeard wasn't using hockey in the anime on Winter Island versus well trough trough full-gore law lastly favorite pre-slash post-times kept fight hashtag dog star number um no nerd hasn't even shown up yet tonight I don't think um Blackbeard wasn't using hockey against law more Blackbeard up-skilled at me sounds good to me um lastly favorite pre-slash post-times kept fight favorite pre-time skip fight I gotta say it's Luffy versus Luchi just is it's my favorite one it's probably Luffy's best fight overall it's amazing peak um post-times kept fight Zoro and King he's got to be up there Zoro and King for the anime for me I was the best fight it's funny because Zoro versus mr. one was in contention for best pre-time skip fight um yep best post-time skip fight I was real hype when Duffy pulled out the awakening when he's just said it like that there was a thing that you could do beyond that I was really hyped about that beyond that post-times get fights have been a little more mess I'm gonna go probably Luffy versus cat or Zoro versus King one of those two those extremely valid I feel like yeah yeah what's y'all picks before we move on post-time skip yeah I'd probably say Zoro and King pre-time skip that actually would be the I I probably have to agree with you Luchi versus Luffy I used to watch the fight all the time like used to watch it like on YouTube like I'll just look it up and watch it just seeing the whole gear to and all that reveals I'm a I'm a hope or reveals like that honorable mention for pre-time skip it's not really a fight it's more of a massacre but because Zoro versus the supernovas I used to watch that on repeat at work I was gonna bring that up I love that about Odie as a hole is one of my favorite arcs to this day yeah my picks are the stainless twilight though Zoro and King with me okay all right but I know the two from Usab to go who y'all got Queen versus Frankie and Chopper I still got Queen yeah so I'm assuming this is Frankie with the Cola right is Frankie with the upgraded Cola it's still Queen they'd have to end it super quick in my opinion like it has to be monster monster point chopper and yeah super Cola Frankie they can end it soon enough they could get it but I'd that'd be an extreme death even if they do and then another two from Nikko El Conkey is the goat yes yes he is re-king them all right who's next twilight next would be Polarize all right Polarize what's up bro rabbit fire talk to me rabbit fire I'm sure you already know I saw you get jumped in it's fine listen it's daily it's weekly it's whatever at this point it's like it's like watching it was like when I used to watch WWE and I had like a favor fighter and he just kept getting just murked every weekend it's like room for Rey Mysterio or so bro just see him get tossed over the rope you're like ah man not again all right but topic today is clash fees it's over I'm done with it bro I can't do it anymore and I know I can't do it anymore about a lot of topics but this one this one I really can't do it anymore all right let me just hear some clashes just for the for the people all right we got crocodile versus mehawk they clash a Marine Four War we got mehawk and Vista we got Marko win almost every admiral yeah literally almost every admiral Marko was not admiral level all right we got a white beard versus a Kainu a Kainu win that moment is stronger I don't care what anyone says and they clashed Fuji versus Sabo I don't think we're gonna say here and say that Sabo's Fuji level they're still clashing and Luffy versus Luchi on egghead they clash Luffy's much stronger than Luchi is okay so this is just the president that I'm setting right and this is what Oda is setting is that one piece repeatedly establishes that even if you're able to clash with or block or hurt or even briefly overwhelm a much stronger opponent than yourself it doesn't necessarily mean that you're close to them in overall strength right so getting advantages in certain moments or clashing evenly with someone stronger doesn't mean you're of their caliber I saw kid overpower big mom kid is not in general stronger than big mom we all know this when I see Jim Bay knocking big mom off the ship in Whole Cake Island I'm not assuming that now Jim Bay's Yonkel level and as Yonkel level attacks this is just paying attention to the context surrounding these situations and assigning meaning to them you can't just take them in a vacuum and be like all right crocodile and his hook are now your level or now me hawk lit we can't be doing that so basically when I had to watch you spoon feed the other members of the panel the context for why Blackbeard and Rayleigh had their moment on the island I was a guest because I thought Oda Oda's usually very nuanced and very like leaves everything a mystery blah blah this and that he didn't do that for that moment he was very heavy handed in his writing and it was to the point where I legitimately thought it was too heavy handed I thought it was a little bit less well written than usual because I didn't expect him to just come out and have Rayleigh blatantly say what he said because he usually doesn't do that he usually leaves it up more to interpretation but for this one it was just so obvious that when I saw people didn't take what he spoon fed it like it actually confused me because the entirety of post timescape Blackbeard's character is some of the most spoon fed progression I've ever seen a character get in my life we got blatant statements from Rayleigh we got him winning his fight with law at a mid to low diff we got him capturing Kobe and then as a result of that being able to get garped and then the cherry on top is just finding out that he's like you know just Roxas son just a little thing on the side there just Roxas son and bold letters and despite everything I've just said despite everything that I've laid out for you we're still still talking about his clash with law and still always trying to scale the guru and the yummy fruits to their absolute bare minimum whether it's talking about the wall at Marine 4 that he couldn't break whitebeard or talking about law clashing evenly with it it just it never seems to me to be genuine it never seems like an honest attempt at understanding these fruits the power they hold or the narrative way behind right so in this context and I'm just gonna explain the way I've seen it because this is just the way I'm seeing it it could be wrong Blackbeard in this moment in this clash decided to stall with the giraff fruit instead of infusing all of his all of the fruit and the hockey into this attack and he instead he decided to use the yummy this is literally just the correct decision in this moment because why on God's green earth would you as Blackbeard decide to try to one shot law here okay this is a Blackbeard who's staring at a man who to his knowledge just fought two yankos a couple weeks ago he now has that experience and now much to his surprise unbeknownst to him he has an awakening who is devil fruit so why in this moment when you're staring at what you're staring at with the unknowns that are there with the way that Blackbeard usually operates, not dealing with the knowns, why would you sit there and try to, why would you try to brute force this situation and take, instead of taking the much easier approach of stalling with the guru and then using your darkness. When by the way, law recklessly charged in at Blackbeard, okay, I don't care what was going through his head, that's a negative battle like you. You notice man has two fruits. You know the Yamis there. You know all this and you're still in that moment. You being a range fighter, can teleport, can do all this stuff. You decide to clash with this Yonko. Whether it's the Yami or whether it's the Guru, if you're putting yourself anywhere near Blackbeard, you're putting yourself at potentially fight ending damage at all times. In that position and we've seen in one piece so many times, so many times, that characters are willing to take damage from stronger characters to dish damage out and that is literally Blackbeard to the quintessential example of this trope. Almost every fight he's in, he gets rocked. But in getting rocked, he's able to then get these advantages off with these fruits that he is able to capitalize on. So Blackbeard just clashing and adjusting his level of strength he's putting into the Guru in order to sneak law for his dumb decision is just incredibly good battle IQ. Like, well literally put himself in the worst position he ever could have put himself in when it comes to the Yami and he clearly underestimated it and he shouldn't have. Well, well law's the fancy to get ambushed, right? He wasn't ready to describe. I understand that when he was on the ground with Blackbeard, there was no interference in the fight that we saw on panel that we know of. And what we know of after he used that Yami, the fight was over, I understand that that might be an unpopular opinion for some reason. How literally panicked you saw in his eyes he panicked his will wavered literally you see his hands shaking. He's scared. I don't think he got out of that specific whatever that was without the end result that we end up seeing. So my whole point with that is what like why would you you have two options? You can either try to a land the Guru with as much force as you put into the attack. He literally just did. We're talking about the Guru can overpower log. We literally just saw an attack that was stronger than the one he used to clash with him. Can we please use some context and understanding as to why those two things would be at different levels is all I'm asking for. You don't have to believe that that he like you know what yes, you do have to believe that the Guru can overpower law. I'm sorry. I don't know what to tell you at this point. If you see that clash and you're like, Oh, that's the most the Guru can do an unnamed clash and you're not understanding why it's an unnamed clash or why he ended up using the yummy. It always comes down to his character. He's not going to sit there and get into a dragon ball z fight with you people. He's going to sneak you. He's going to do something dangerous that you're not expecting. Law was up there with big mom and he lived. I don't care about the circumstances. Just as I don't really care about the circumstances with black beard. Point blank being law was in a room with big mom. Big mom ends up boiling in lava. Yeah, you could say what the help of kid. I'll give you that. He fights black beard and he literally dies. I'm sorry, but he lies out there somewhere. And then I'll hold on. If black beard has no interest in laws fruit, he dies. Just straight up. And we know that the process for taking the fruit is not some instantaneous that like it. So all that being considered. Oda is writing a smart fight between two people who get the show off those smarts. Law was able to capitalize off of black beard's overconfidence and lack of intel. He just pulled up on stronger because you know what? I don't know about an awakening. I don't know. He doesn't even know what anybody else in his crew can do for real. If we're being honest. And he decided to pull up on stronger anyway because he wasn't expecting that fruit to be awakened. And on the other hand, black beard was able to capitalize on law, not respecting black beard's power and his battle like you. He closed the distance when that was the absolute last thing he should have done. And like I said, when you say that he can't overpower law in this moment, all I'm seeing is copen seething because we literally saw him use a more powerful attack two seconds ago. So all I'm asking for is the is the to sit down and ask yourself why? Why would he be using two separate levels of power for these two separate levels of attacks? And you get your answer, by the way, right away. It's because he wanted to use the yummy. Like literally that's the answer you're given immediately. You don't have to even ask yourself. That's the problem with taking things too literally in the show. Oda is going to write the way he's always been writing whether anybody likes it on the panel or in the community. That's just how it is. Sometimes people who aren't on the same level of strength are going to clash. Sometimes there will be an explanation. Sometimes there won't be an explanation. This is literally one of the only cases where you get shown the explanation directly. He wanted to land the yummy. And it wasn't because he needed to. Otherwise, he would have lost. It wasn't he needed to because the girl is weak. It was because it was simply the better, more efficient option, which is why Blackbeard is so dangerous. Everyone out here being dumb and just clashing and having these dragon balls. He fights has y'all eating up sloppy battle IQ. And when you'll see real battle IQ, walk into the building, you're cowering sweating, coping because it's a week and we couldn't possibly have power at all. Let my man finish. But I do got to drop you soon, Polarize, but tell me that I'm almost done. I'm just I'm just put it like this. Put some respect on Blackbeard, bro. That's it. In general, stop scaling with your logic. This is not even me talking to anybody on the pod. Or this is just in general. Stop scaling with your logic because that's your logic. It's not canon. Start using Oda's logic. That's the canon. Okay. That's what we're reading. Oda's canon. We're not reading what's potential based off of what you believe it should be in your head. We're reading what Oda is giving to us. And we can recognize the patterns in how Oda writes. So if you're not basing your opinions off of those patterns, but you're instead basing it off of the spreadsheet, you made in your head for how power scaling and how all this works. You're going about it wrong. And if you haven't bought Blackbeard stocks already, it's too late. The banks closed. The stocks are gone. We're all sold out, bro. Everybody who was smart on the ground level, keeping their ear to the floor, they knew we know. And when he shows out, and when it happens, finally, when he's the final villain and all this that, look, I'm saying that confidently because I need people to understand. I'm seeing some recency bias in the community with in dealings with Emo. And all I'm going to just keep it at this. Keep your ears in your eyes open. Blackbeard coming. The man coming hard. The man's coming best prepared for the man. Polarized. Best prepared. You have a good night. But I was well spoken on Clash piece, man. Truly. We can't do Clash piece anymore. We're done with it. It's ending. And we don't like Cata Curry around these parts. We don't we don't like Cata Curry around these parts. That's that's all for me. All right, you have a good one, man. Have a good one only. See, I already got me over my time, man. We get another five from Niko L. This is up the chapter 753. The end of Konki versus Rybuku was immaculate. Konki's backstory and everything was so great. Rybuku is a beast. And I love him even more now. It was the last part. Another two from Niko. Loki tiered up. Wanted to see more of him, peak. Yeah, man. Yeah, that's that's all I say. That's why I can't say. That's all I can't say without spoiling. All right, Twilight. Who is next? But boy. But boy, what's going on, man? But boy, you there? But boy going once. But boy going twice. All right, who is next? - B-Fishman. - Oh, Black Fishman, are you there? - Hello. - Hey, there we go. How's it going, man? - Hey, man, I'm doing good. - It's good. Rapid fire, man. You got five minutes to talk to me. - All right, you guys, I'm a big fan. I get to hear you guys a bunch, but one thing that I hear about is a lot of the fans like to come in and talk about Naruto versus like the One Piece verse. And I've been, you know, a big fan of both, since both of them came out, both since they came out. And I think it's a real unfair conversation. I think that both Kishimoto and Oda are friends and have always been like rivals in a way, but just because they're rivals and like how they've written their stories, we can't really compare their stories together, right? A lot of the powers that exist in the Naruto universe don't have any powders or things that people can't like stop. Like there's no way that if someone like body swaps or does mind control on someone in the One Piece universe that like they can overcome that even with hockey, just because the way that the Naruto universe explains those kinds of moves. It like disrupts your spirit. It disrupts your soul energy. Like that kind of stuff ends up like doing things to One Piece characters that mess with their minds and their bodies and ways that the stories and the narratives don't really account for, right? If you want to talk about attack power, that's a different subject. And you know, a lot of people bring up the island level stuff. And I think last night you brought it up where you were talking about One Piece Islands are bigger than what people give them credit for. The average One Piece Island is especially Kingdom Island arcs, Oda has been quoted on saying that they are one century. A century is 1,000 re, which is something close to like almost 3,000 kilometers. So we're talking about something that's about the size of the United States or Australia. So when people are doing big attacks and like you know, destroying large cities on these islands, they've taken out like states, you know. They've taken out like large, large areas. So it is one of those things where people talk about, oh, like Naruto just has them beat on attack power alone. Well, you know, Bosch-Rong Gun is the size of Onikashima. And I don't know if you guys know, but Onikashima is based on a real island. It's a Megijima and Megijima has a width of about 2.5 miles. So at least Bosch-Rong Gun, its fist is half the size of the meteor that killed the dinosaurs, right? Just one punch from Luffy. So if we're talking about attack power like, you know, Luffy might be able to bang with the best of them, but Naruto got weird brain hacks that One Piece doesn't have like an account for. And there are a lot of characters that are really early going in Naruto who got moves that people just can't break out of like that. Like we talk about Shikomaru who can stop people's shadows just by putting his hands up. And there's nothing that somebody from One Piece can do to stop that. Once you got, you got, so. - I think that's very well put, man. Honestly, I think you put it into a good perspective. I will say that in my opinion, you should be at least allowed to speculate on how the versus abilities would interact with one another, you know? So, like you mentioned, you don't think that there's a narrative space for how one would go about exiting out of some of these chakra-based moves. Like you mentioned Shikomaru and the shadow, right? But at the minimum, we've seen people control other people in the One Piece first. And they've used hockey to like break out of things like that. We've seen people change people's bodies structures in One Piece and use hockey to break out. You don't think that hockey would be an effective counter to like a Shikomaru shadow switch or Genjutsu with observation hockey or conquer it. You don't think it would have an effective place to counter at all? - I, you know, I'm a big fan of a, there's a little dicky line that says like, you know, apples to apples or apples to oranges, like why can't fruit be compared? And I totally think that all fruit can be compared, right? I just think that we have to talk about it on like a very specific case by case basis. Like I think that like, you don't know how hockey works all the way. And I think that that's the biggest travesty. We've been a part of like this One Piece universe for so long that we don't know all the different pieces to how hockey really works and how it affects other people. I think about it similarly to key and like they are forms of spirit energy but the way that Naruto talks about how specifically stuff like Genjutsu works, it's somebody putting energy into your body and then they control the energy in your body. So like they basically inject you with their hockey and then overcome your hockey and control your hockey. And that's how they can determine what you see in the world. And unless somebody from the outside breaks you out of it, you can't do that. And like we haven't seen another hockey user, help a hockey user break out of something like that, right? I think the closest thing you had is like film red but that's not canon. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think like a while I would like to say like hockey can just overpower certain things because we've seen like it just kind of a, it has a, I don't want to use the word MacGuffin but it has like kind of like the whatever power we needed to do in the moment. But it is one of those things that like a hockey has not been fully explained to the extent of like, even like Imu coming out and saying like how he thinks domination and all these different factors apply to his power. That might be the basis for Machi. Maybe even like we're talking about a gold Rogers speech at when he died, fame, wealth, power, those are the things to grow hockey. Maybe that's how it, but we don't really know. And until Odo really gives us more of a fleshed out like version of like what the upper tears of like that energy system means, I don't think we can really quantify it against another universe that's all set and done, you know? I think that's fair. Fishman, it was a pleasure talking to you, man. I think this is our first time interacting. You said you were a fan, so I'm glad we were able to chat. I'm sad that the twins and Larry aren't here to interact with you. I know Larry would have loved your take on Naruto there a little bit, but yeah. Looking forward to hearing more from you, man. Yeah, appreciate the opportunity. And thank you for letting me rant. Hopefully I didn't take up too much of your time, man. You did, but I did think this was an eloquent conversation in general, so like it's I. Oh man, please, please. All right. Next up was who, oh, my boy is back. Let's see if he's good now. But boy, are you there? Hey, are you whispering, bro? Are you good? Sorry, sorry, bro. I'm actually sorry to waste the time, but or I'm actually crawling under a health and network. Oh, wow. Are you good? Like you said, you're working. Yeah, no. Yeah, yeah. We news or could I'm in New Zealand? We're like a whole day. Well, I think it's to be exact. It's like 17 hours ahead of you. So it's currently Wednesday here. Right. Well, we've been on a rapid fire. So five minutes hit me, bro. And today PowerPoint, um, Joseph is Frankie. Who do you go, oh, oh, Joseph, I still got Joseph. Damn, yeah, find you. I am, um, and then earlier you said you had a, um, quieter above rocks, correct? I do. Would you have the single to wipe the above thing too? I do. I think, and I think I've said it before and I got some heat for it. I think the way we scale rocks in the community is higher than he's meant to be view. Um, I think the way Otter phrase a lot of the stuff that happened in God Valley and rocks is domination comes with a lot of, hey, this was before all these people became the legends that they would become. So I know maybe I'm a little unfair to rocks when I scale him this way. But to me, I think that kind of Oh, I don't know if I can say Big Mom, but Kido, like, yeah, like, I think Roger, Garp, Whitebeer, they all just got stronger. They all became the legends that we would know them to be after Rocks fell, you know? Yeah, and we didn't exactly get to see him fully, yeah, like go into his full prime like we got to see a good sort of vision, but also don't see him as so significantly stronger than those other people in the time that he was running things. Like, the way he interacted with Roger did not tell me that Rocks was his complete and other superior. I didn't feel that about him at Whitebeer either. Even the clashes that he had when he was dummy reverse he'd like, Whitebeer was fine, Kido was fine, Big Mom was fine. Maybe that's unfair too, but like, that was an amped up version of him, and yes, the fights ended, but they were really more like, all right, we'll screw this. Yeah, and then they were like knocked out K-Ode in the way that I think the community views it. So, I don't know, maybe, maybe I don't have Rocks where I should, but the way that it's been phrased, the way that Oda wrote it, I've always just been like, okay, he was the strongest guy at his time. Don't know how much stronger he was, but majority of these people seemed to have surpassed him. It might be. Do you say would it be crazy, would it be crazy to say that Carter's above Rocks would it be crazy to say that Carter's was seeing Goku and Whitebeer than that? Crazy, you're to say, I mean, it all depends on how you view Sen Goku, because I don't think Garb and Sen Goku are the same. I think, you know, I mean, probably crazy to say that K-Ode was with Garb and Sen Goku in there. Okay. Yeah. No. Yeah, enough. I mean, I kind of did or do okay, but I don't think either of those are crazy. I just, I have to give an answer, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, not exactly, that's so good. Oh, good, thank you, Zebra. Yeah, no problem. And stay safe, man. You're crawling under houses and giving out orders and stuff, man. Be safe. No. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you. Yeah, we're going. You followed it, we're good. We're still on night. All right. Next up, Twilight. Yeah. I see. Repeat that. NYC. Okay. Okay. Can you hear me? Yeah, I hear you now. Oh, and NYC. Okay. All right. Nerd. You there? Nerd. I'm here. I'm here. I'm here. Sorry. I had to just unmute it. I didn't want the echo. I know rapid fire. Don't worry. I have some short stuff. But before I get into it, I just want to throw out a few things. So Larry was talking about the Celtic sword the other day. And I don't know if you remember, but a long time ago, I was talking about Lou of the long arms. And what's really crazy. So he's from a clan that's called the two off day to none that came from the heavens. But the king, they brought four gifts. One of them was that sword. And what's really crazy about that sword, it's for the king and the king only. But once you take damage on your body, you can no longer use it. And so I think that's like showing shanks like why shanks isn't like the child of Destiny. And I think that's why Lou took off. Fuck. Language. You all right? It's always something happened. You good? Yeah, I heard that right? Oh man. Yeah. Yeah, I heard it. And now he's gone. Is he? He's still on the call only. Nerd. Are you there? Yeah. I'm so sorry about that. No. You all right? Yeah, so I just think that like that part of it, like, and how Lou just took off one of good bonds, arms. I feel like the power to take them like to take out Lou, you're, it's, you're going to have to have a complete body, why I haven't, you know, figured that part of it out yet. But just all these significant characters like losing an arm and it even makes me wonder like, did Crockett, I'll go up against me and move, cut his hand off. It's, it's very strange to me, but I'm going to paraphrase something, just cut me off when you need to. All right. It's not long as it is, but I know you got to get going. So just cut me off if you need to. So this theory is the death of Nika and the birth of Monkey D. Luffy. So tomorrow, the four celestial events may foreshadow the death of Nika and the true birth of Monkey D. Luffy. My theory is that Eamu, Eamu will succeed in taking the Nika devil fruit out of Luffy, believing that this will finally prevent joy, boys, return instead, Eamu will destroy the ancient pattern that is kept for repeating and why he's been able to sit upon the throne. Luffy will rise without joy, boys, heartbeat, and without a devil fruit. This is when he will unlock his real birthright and announce the form that existed before every other transformation, gear zero. Tomorrow, the six planet parade represents the force of the old world aligning around Luffy. Eamu, B5 elders, the holy knights, the ancient powers all see him as the return of joy, boy. But he only refers to himself as Monkey D. Luffy. Zunisha heard the drums of liberation and declared that joy boy has returned. The world government named his fruit Nika. Eamu looks at Luffy and sees an enemy from 800 years ago. Someone is placing Luffy inside someone else's orbit, but they are making the same mistake. Luffy never called himself Nika or joy boy. He's always called himself Monkey D. Luffy. The solar eclipse represents Eamu's finally separating Luffy from the sun guy. Eamu will have the same power that controls bodies and grants demonic immortality to pull the mythical zone spirit directly out of him. Luffy's white hair will turn black, his rubber body will become human, the drums of liberation will stop for one terrifying moment. The world will believe the sun has died. Eamu will believe the history has repeated self and joy boy has been defeated again. Then comes the new moon. Luffy will lie motionless without Nika's light. Apparently empty, but a new moon is not gone, it's simply hidden in darkness. In that silence Luffy will hear a heartbeat that does not sound like joy boy's drums. It will be his own. Every gear depended on the rubber body given to him by the fruit, but gear zero will begin when the entire system is removed. Gear zero is not weaker than gear one. It is the state before the machine ever needed gears. Luffy will rise with no stretching, no transformation, no ancient gods inside of him. His power will come from his inheritance. The Eamu could never steal this. The will of D, the voice of all things, Garps, Fist, Dragons, Rebellious, Blood, and Luffy's own Supreme King Hockey. Roger conquered the sea without a devil fruit. Garp became a legend using his fists. Luffy's final power may reveal he is always capable of standing among them without Nika. Then we have the Perseid Meteor Shower. It represents Nika's power breaking apart after Eamu removes it. Instead of entering Eamu's body paws, it's light that will scatter across the battlefield like falling stars. Nika will stop being one chosen god and return to the people as an idea. Every slave, giant pirate, and child who witness Luffy rise, inherit a fragment of that hope. The gods will die, but the liberation will survive. Gear zero will be Luffy concentrating his conquerors hockey into his ordinary human body. His heartbeat will release a new rhythm, not the drums of liberation, but a pulse capable of breaking moves contracts and awakening the wills trapped inside of servants, crewmates, etc. Freed bodies through laughter. Gear zero will free people by returning ownership of their souls. That is how the pattern breaks. Joyway possess Nika, challenged Eamu, and lost. Who expects Luffy to follow the same path? But once Eamu removes Nika, Luffy will no longer be able to repeat Joyway's story, nor does he want to. The clips will end, the new moon will pass, and the falling stars will announce a future that the prophecy never predicted. Eamu will ask how the sun god can still be standing. Luffy will tighten his fist and answer. Nika's gone, Joy Boy's gone. I'm the future pirate King Monkey D Luffy. Then for the first time in history, Luffy will not transform into somebody else, but into Gear Zero. And this is how we get the next form. No, I appreciate it. Gear Zero is an interesting concept. I like the idea around it. I just don't know if I see it nerd. I think so. I think like Oda likes Luffy to have the Nika fruit or to have his devil fruit. It's how he writes them. Like two or three. So everything. Not good. No, so I don't, so I don't disagree with you. But nerd. Oh, man. I think we lost nerd. I was like, it wasn't. It's something like a caution mark jumped on them too for some reason. I don't know what happened. Yeah. I'm not. It's not showing anything on nerd. I'm sorry. I do got to run though, man. But that was a good one. I liked it. You kept it short and sweet. So appreciate you, man. If you can hear me. That's a good reason, nerd. Yeah. Like the caution mark popped up on him for whatever reason. Yeah. Yeah. I was going to say, I just went, I thought my, I thought the stream cut out of something for a second dark, because I was like, I'm not, I'm not hearing anything anymore. Gear Zero though. I don't know how long did I see it, but I honestly, honestly, I ain't even gonna lie. I'd like Gear Zero better than Gear Six. All right. And then last but not least, creative broccoli. Yes, I broccoli you there. Yep. I'm here. Yeah, talk to me, man. Hey, what's up, bro? This is my first calling stream. Is it, I feel like we talked before. Maybe it was some other way. I was on, I was on the DDT, with Sanji, a couple of them. But I know you're running late. I keep it super short, but basically, I did a super chat yesterday about it. This whole Gabon crazy hockey, something about it. It just really rubs me the wrong way. Like the, you know, we got the Kaido, his top five, right? These are the goats, like Odin, Rocks, Roger, Shanks. These are all like insane hockey monsters. Can you still hear me? Yeah. Okay, I'm driving, so. But yeah, anyway, like, I just think Gabon pulling out this crazy hockey, like, it just feels kind of cheap to me. Like, do you, I think it's because I saw these polls of people putting him and Ray above big mom and Kaido. And I'm like, this is crazy. Yeah. I'm like, I know they were all on, you know, God Valley together. I know they weren't in their prime, but I'm like, it, like, Shanks was a legend because of this crazy hockey. But now I just feel like everybody's getting it. And as we get into the end game with Emo, the Holy Knights, I just wonder like how many people are going to be just kind of like power crept, basically. This, just, Gabon count as a power creep considering he was this powerful way back. He just, we never saw it. Like, is that count? I don't know that now. If he was, you think he got stronger on LBF with age? Isn't that what the twins were saying? No, they were saying that he was even stronger back then and that he's weaker now. Oh my God. Yeah, I agree. I would agree. No, because I'm just like, you know, if they weren't in their prime at God Valley, and they have this insane hockey, I'm like, who were they fighting? Because they weren't fighting Shanks, because they're homies, right? And I mean, Gabon is literally looking at Emo in the face and like doing all this crazy stuff. I'm like, how was he not in Kato's top five? Kato never interacted with that dude, man. I don't think Kato put anybody in his top five that he didn't have a personal interaction with at least on some point, right? Like, like he didn't put, plus way, Garb is stronger than Odin. You could ask Kyle that he would tell you that. But Odin was there and Garb wasn't. So it's like, it's not his actual top five. That's not what he was representing there. It was like the people he interacted with that he knows could fight him because he fought them and people he had respect for or whatever. I don't know. But how do you feel about Odin being in Gabon's little thing that we got in the last chapter of these like crazy people that were? I mean, I guess Krocus was on there too. So it's not necessarily like oats, but I don't think it was his top five. I think those are those might be his his top five like homies. Even I don't even think it's that because Whitebeard was there and I don't know that Gabon has any real relationship with Whitebeard. But these are people that he knows know the truth of the world that are still that are still out there that are actively waiting for the new Nika for the new joy boy. Yeah, that's not true. I mean, Whitebeard isn't their Odin's not there like or at least were have been for the past few. Here's the reality of the situation, right? In those meta situations, those meta moments, Gabon's probably thinking about 20 to 30 people. He had a whole crew of people that he sailed to Laftell with that knew the history that have since died, but we're waiting for Rogers, whatever. Yeah, we only know these people. We only have a real interacting actions with Krokes and Gabon and Rayleigh and Whitebeard and Odin, etc. So we're only going to get them about probably thought of a bunch of people, but you know, like you said, there's only so much page on the panel and I think for me too, I'm just a dragon hater at heart and I'm like, if Gabon's doing this, what is Dragon going to be doing, bro? Is he going to be doing crazy stuff? You're mad that Dragon is going to start crazy now. He was always scared. He was always going to do that, though. Hey, they're not. You knew that. I'm just like, you know, we had Sank's big mom, Kido, and these are supposed to be like, well for a lot of the series, they were like the gods like, oh, this is the bar that we got to hit. But now it's like, oh, we got 20 people that don't take, you know, big mom is, you know, whatever, but I just, it just feels like, I don't know. I like the, I like the yonko. It feels like they're just getting weaker by the day and that's just not what I like, so. Broccoli. I'm sorry, man. In long series, the power cliff happens, bro. Happens. Anyway, I'll let you go. Bro, have a good night. Thank you. All right. There we go. Some, some Kido gas for you there, Toby. Yeah, man. Broccoli anyway. I'm going to hit him sometimes. I'm about to hate. Shop the Kido, man. He was a worthy villain. Did his job. Another five from Jeter Rude says in one piece, every living thing had hockey, right? That means it's not just will of life, it's life force, right? So if Chakra is life force, hockey counters, Chakra. I'd have to go back to where I really said, I'm pretty sure you said every living thing has hockey or at least every living person has hockey. So no matter what, when you cross scale, my thing is, I just don't, I don't, I want them to be able to be equalized in whatever way it is so that it's a fair balance because I hear it on both ends. Oh, nobody in art, so got hockey. And I'm like, so that the log years would dominate. That's so, that's, that's poor. Yeah, that makes no sense. That's not, that's, that's why. Yeah. And then last super sad of the night, Nico L, with another $2, this is how much you think kingdom has left seems a lot in my opinion. I had a conversation with my brother Merlin, who actually put me on the kingdom the other day about how much we have left. And where we are specifically, it's a little shorter after what, what you've just experienced. Uh, I'd say a major thing happened that I didn't anticipate happening yet. And maybe that's because I have one piece in the Epo brain, where I don't expect things to happen for a thousand chapters. Um, but something happened. And they're in the progress of making another of those things happen and I didn't think we'd get here by this point. So, and I don't even think he's rushing it. I don't think he's rushing it at all. But I would say we probably have another 500 chapters. That's fair. Yeah, I think I'd say like 1500 be a good stopping point honestly for kingdom somewhere in that ballpark. Yeah, because to me, it's like if you're trying to take over the six kingdoms, the other six kingdoms, some of the kingdoms are just more difficult to take over than others. And I feel like it feels like they're going there earlier. It's what I'm saying. Yeah, it's it's beating along pretty quick in my opinion on I'm just how it's progressing. And I also do know some of the real life lore base behind it. So that's something you can also go off of because it has been relatively steady with it. But yeah, five more years of kingdom at least. I'd probably say 10 more years of kingdom. And probably another five more years to seven more years of one piece, man. Oh, bro, somebody in chat. I actually just shouted out Karen. Shout out the Karen, bro. She got the key. I like you. I like you. I like you. I like you cut. But I told I got a rap there. We did end around the 845 that I originally told Twilight. So that's good. But yeah, yeah, I like the stream. If you haven't already. If you want to become, if you want to participate in these calling streams going forward, become a tiered member of World Order Hire on the Discord. No DDT this week and no survivor this week. I got to fly out tomorrow morning. So I got to handle my business, man. But we will be back next week with one of those. So please, everybody have a good night. Jana, please.

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The stream features a live call-in format where fans discuss One Piece and anime topics via Discord voice channel.
  2. Hosts Seb, 30, and Twilight engage in real-time conversations with audience members, limiting each call to five minutes due to time constraints.
  3. A major discussion centers on the rivalry between Law and Sengoku (Savo), with debate over narrative strength, power dynamics, and who would win in a hypothetical battle.
  4. Fans share personal stories, such as a childhood incident involving a metal bat and a brother, highlighting humor and real-life experiences.
  5. The conversation shifts to character theories, including potential comebacks for characters like Roger, Rock, and Ecomaria.
  6. A deep dive into Blackbeard’s portrayal and whether he is a true villain, with emphasis on nuance and motivation over traditional villainy.
  7. The hosts explore the fate of the Celestial Dragons, suggesting they may either be re-educated or sent to the moon, rather than being punished.
  8. A personal moment occurs when Fuego shares his excitement about fatherhood, prompting heartfelt reflections on family, responsibility, and brotherhood.
  9. Audience engagement is encouraged through Discord membership tiers (Warlord, Hire), and super chats contribute to ongoing discussions.

Summary:

The stream is a dynamic, fan-driven discussion on One Piece and anime, hosted by Seb, 30, and Twilight. With strict five-minute call limits, the hosts facilitate lively debates on character power dynamics, such as the Law vs. Sengoku narrative rivalry, and personal anecdotes from the hosts.

A central theme is the nuanced portrayal of villains, with participants criticizing overly scheming characters like Conkey, favoring those with emotional depth and motivation—like Blackbeard, who is seen as a complex figure despite his actions. The group also speculates on future story developments, including the Celestial Dragons’ fate, with theories that they may be re-educated or exiled to the moon rather than punished. Personal moments emerge, notably Fuego’s heartfelt sharing of his new son and family journey, emphasizing themes of brotherhood, fatherhood, and responsibility.

The hosts stress the importance of fan interaction, encouraging participation through Discord membership and super chats. The episode blends humor, storytelling, and deep analysis, offering fans a unique space for real-time engagement beyond regular content streams.

FAQs

The T-O-P-T call in stream allows fans to engage directly with moderators in real-time by discussing One Piece or anime-related topics, asking questions, ranting, or sharing theories in a voice channel.

Each call is strictly limited to five minutes, with Seb timing every participant to ensure the session stays on schedule.

Fans need to become a tiered member on the Discord server, such as a Warlord or Hire, to gain access to the voice channel where the live calls take place.

The stream is hosted by Seb, with moderators 30 and Twilight joining to facilitate discussions and keep the conversation flowing.

Fans debate whether Sobbo or Law is the stronger or more relevant character, with arguments focusing on narrative roles, power dynamics, and character development in the story.

Fans suggest that characters like Ecomaria, Roger, Rocks, and Kato could make a comeback, especially if they have untold backstory or potential for impact in future arcs.

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