TOPT Call In Stream: Episode 30

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will give you access to the call-in voice call-in stream voice channel once you're inside wait your turn and we'll drag callers up one by one each caller will have roughly five minutes so come prepared get your point across and don't be yapping if you don't want to be a tiered member that's fine too uh any five dollar super chat as well as a three three gifted memberships will get you guys so we'll still give you a chance to be dragged in for a call as well so those are the rules keep it respectful bring the energy and be ready to talk one piece or i guess whatever you guys want to talk about we can talk about anything these days um but yeah sorry for the delay we had a little bit of an issue um sorry i know it's a little late back to back late streams i'm sorry all right this one i'm not going to say it was my fault i'm not because it was my fault i'm not going to say it was my fault because it wasn't but you know i played my part in it i'll say that much you know i'm saying like i can't act like i'm completely innocent here i'm not you know i'm not so but yeah toby self-accountability twilight how y'all feeling man how how how y'all feeling out there bro feel good bro i feel good yeah i can't feeling pretty good myself bought a new game always a good time okay especially getting to play some more digimon after so long okay yeah i see a bunch of people in chat thank you guys for your patience truly um i'll shout out some people here i see mama kids in here joker is in here vandy auger uh sunnet i see sun also in the waiting room so welcome twilight what's going on bro um i see who else madara's in here uh za jen buzz groove tobias melly bk soba vin sanji smoke uh a lot of y'all here please like the stream if you guys haven't already it does help with the youtube algorithm again sorry for the delay um but yeah hit that like button uh we did get a 10 super chat from mama kid before we even got started it says won't be able to call in but was wondering who y'all got in here in a 3v3 luffy zoro and yamato versus naruto sasuke and sakura these are the times i wish larry was here because obviously i never finished naruto so i might be leaning on y'all too to assist with some scaling and this matchup who y'all got depends on which naruto like if they're talking about like peak naruto then naruto okay yeah no i was gonna say it it very much depends on that era of the three naruto characters because as much as i hate sakura like boruto level sakura is stupid busted like if it's end of series for them like end of like bor like not even end of boruto but boruto level naruto sasuke and sakura yeah it's it's see the gear 5 luffy kind of makes it a little harder but as of right now especially with luffy's with luffy's stamina issue it's i'd actually have to lean towards naruto naruto squad i'm not leaning i'm laying all the way down on another okay we'll see like the thing is but like it's not really close i feel like i feel like like someone like emu i feel i would have been better for this matchup i feel like i would have been better for this matchup okay so that's what they're saying you're saying that naruto and then they get to that level like yeah and they stay there yes okay i feel like i feel like three emus is like a way better question okay so so luffy and them and them boys still got a ways to go to catch up to naruto is what you're saying yeah but to be fair that's also not necessary to say that's honestly not the fairest to a degree because we're talking about basically end of series characters if we're talking if we're talking end of series naruto like end of shippuden well that's not that we're not yeah i was gonna say that's close either um so i guess the real question is by the end of the series of of one piece do you think that they'll be able to scale themselves up to defeat these three or no i with how strong emu is i'm very i could see it for sure okay i don't know i don't know because the thing sakura alone does that because she's almost to be technical if i remember i could i haven't fully watched boruto i'm only going off of what i know from a couple of my friends that are big boruto heads you uh if i recall sakura becomes like dimensional level to a degree that's that's the problem like okay and twilight is right i feel like one piece characters are already there in terms of like speed so like they can keep up with naruto characters in terms of speed or be faster because they have a future cycle so you can say they're faster already but you think the hax is on naruto side yeah yeah yeah like yeah by far you know what i'm saying so but the problem is like one piece characters aren't even close yet and some of the strength so i feel like if they get that strength level and then you can argue that they're faster and they have the observation then that's when i'm like okay you can give it to one piece characters but i don't know if they're ever going to reach like that super duper high strength and not starting so i guess the question becomes even further like it say say luffy's capable of doing the the hockey knot type of stuff that joy boy was doing like is that enough or is that still not enough okay no no no yeah it it i'm trying to think of a proper way to compare like like because chad's even saying it pretty accurately like naruto alone hmm yes so from what i'm reading naruto himself is probably stronger than emu who came down and just and just wrecked everybody okay yeah if he wanted to okay if he wanted to he very much could it's just obviously not naruto's character i'm thinking about like just regular no i wasn't even thinking about volume mode like volume mode is just even it's kind of like gear five in a way but it's it might be worse because it takes his actual life force so but let's just say not about like barney's like barney's like barney's like barney's mode he would just solo all three before like his life force even runs out okay luffy got some work to do then man yeah oh yeah no because like the main the main thing that because the the quickest way to explain it soccer alone i don't know you said you never got even into the great war so you probably don't even know who the uh akutsuki are oh tsuki tsuki oh i know of their existence i don't know any of their abilities or what they say well kaguya yeah like i know kaguya is i know that there's a clan of people behind her or after kaguya is basically considered a god to a degree sakura herself beats her shout out to sakura i was gonna i was gonna get into some more more minutiae like oh they i like that they got more teamwork on their side sakura sakura can heal apparently none of that even matters no her healing is ridiculous too like you're we didn't even have to bring that up is what i'm saying like we didn't even have to bring up their full kit i feel like i feel like war like before they meet like kaguya and hagaromo on them i feel like like just like his regular ktm2 versus like luffy would have been like a more fair fight but then i feel like that's when it starts to lean in luffy's favor but yeah i feel like give them what they got give them whatever they got if they got it they got it bro yeah yeah all right another five from shadow it says with the recent vid y'all just posted it dawned on me that emu's tail alone is more durable than hybrid kaido and king hashtag satan's tail over kkk i didn't get the kkk thing kaido and king what's the other k yeah i'm not a i'm not 100 sure of the acronym on that one i also i mean i i just don't know if i agree i mean maybe but i don't know if i agree with that the tail was a tail tank and stuff i don't remember the tail tank and stuff i don't remember the tail tank and stuff i don't remember the tail tank getting hit for real that's kind of crazy i don't know if the tail alone is you know what was the tail doing did i miss something what was the tail doing maybe i missed part of the conversation blocked uh zoro's attack i think that's about it i would say the tail was definitely moving but i don't think the tail has some like incredible feet you know if if emu could beat kaido with just his tail what are we doing but at the same time at the same time he's low diff gear file luffy man he did low diff it takes zoro stronger than stronger king of hell attacks i mean hey that's a good piece that's a good piece but he said kaido and king i think that's the problem so yeah i just caught that too kaido and yeah he like kaido and king like i don't know about that mm-hmm hey man shout out the emu's tail i guess bro yeah no for real all right let's get some callers in here man let's do it guys like the stream if you haven't already and if you want to become a caller become a tiered member on our discord of warlord or higher and you'll have access to the call-in stream voice channel um all right twilight you remember who was in here first probably not i don't i want to say i want to say it was sonnet i feel like it was sonnet first yeah i've seen sonnet in chat so it's quite possible yeah sonnet you there yo guys how you been i'm good man i'm good i forgot i'm supposed to do the spin wheel to determine who i picked next i completely forgot about that but sonnet talk to me bro what's going on do you have another perspective i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know you have another perspective for us or you you have something else you want to talk about no this takes way too long i'm not gonna lie i got something else something interesting okay you can name it let me think a lesson from one piece and i got a question to it so if you think about hockey what do you think you can learn from hockey and i'm not talking specifically about the strength or power well rayleigh describes it as the act of not doubting so i'd say to never doubt yourself would be the lesson that hockey's supposed to teach us as readers in twilight toby i'd say that's that's pretty accurate what sub said it's a lesson in just self-acceptance and not doubting yourself yeah i'm sorry i missed the question i was doing so the question was what do you think you can learn from hockey i like both of the answers uh i feel like hockey in a way is manifestation plus hard work which is why i like hockey more than devil foods because devil food technically is manifestation and then you work hard to use it but i kind of just like that like it seems like hockey comes from within that's i feel like that's what i like the most about it meanwhile devil food is kind of something that you get so yeah i kind of like the whole like mental and physical aspect of like hard work plus like dreaming big manifestation uh how disciplined you are you know i'm saying like all that goes into it yeah no i like that i like that but what if i told you that hockey was just never a power system but what if oda wasn't only writing about pirates but about life itself we all know observation hockey let you see what many can't armament hockey turns your body into a weapon and conquers hockey belongs to the chosen few but what if those abilities aren't a fantasy what if they're metaphors metaphors for intuition discipline and the kind of world that changes the people around you and i'm not going to be breaking down hockey but i'm going to uncover why one piece might be teaching us how to become stronger long before we ever throw a punch so let's start with observation hockey observation hockey isn't about seeing the future it's about seeing the present so clearly the future has nowhere has nowhere left to hide life teaches it slowly every betrayal every goodbye every mistake until one day you no longer guess you'll recognize the silence before someone leaves the weight behind the smile and the storm before the first drop of rain and people call it intuition but intuition is simply experience remembered by the soul now let's move on to armament hockey armament hockey was never about becoming harder past it's about becoming impossible to break pain will visit everyone failure loss loneliness some people let those moments shatter them others force themselves inside them discipline is choosing tomorrow what comfort would abandon today and the strongest armor isn't worn on the body it's carried by the spirit now the most important part conquest hockey the rarest hockey was never strength it was certainty a will so unshaken that reality begins to bend around it not because others follow you but because your conviction gives them permission to believe in themselves and some people enter a room and demand attention others enter and silence follows and that's not out of fear but out of presence because a soul that refuses to kneel has a way of reminding every other soul that they were never meant to and the greatest lesson one piece teaches isn't how to become stronger it's that every battle every scar every impossible dream was never preparing your fists it was preparing your spirit because in the end hockey is in power it's the shape your soul takes after refusing to give up it's on it yo every week man it's beautiful bro that was that was amazing man i love that yeah man yeah you said you said what i wanted to say but like a million times better right i do i do this i do this for a living i couldn't do that man that was amazing that was fire thank you guys yeah i mean you got you got a lot of power system you got a lot of everything going on in one piece but people tend to miss and they don't dive deeper into more simple things let me let me say that yeah man no that was really cool i like that um i'm curious if that was really odin oda's intention you know what i mean because it probably was yeah you know it may as well could be but we are just so delusional i feel like all this that's smart right so all right that intuitive is that intentional but yo son it appreciate the call man thanks well can i ask another quick question yeah sure it's really quick it came out it came on my mind it's what do you think people would quote luffy by after he passes like if luffy were to die what would his epithet be in pa in in in mourning or in in remembrance yeah what would his quote be wait wait you're saying his quote like what he'll be most known for saying for example i think i can give you i can give you mine like people tend to say uh let me think that man was rich because his pleasures were the cheapest something like that oh man um probably something simple like he was he was indeed the freest man on the sea something like that yeah something i was about to say it had something to do with his freedom the man never let anything anything take away his freedom freedom or uh something about his happiness like he's always smiling um or or correlating freedom and liberation with the straw hat itself like he was such the embodiment of freedom that the straw hat now is that symbol you know what i mean something like that yeah i like that good night thank y'all guys yeah have a good night thank you man have a good night peace out sonnet sonnet be spitting bro thank you uh him roscoe for giving the the jewels gifted um appreciate that i never know how to see those but when they pop up and i do see them i appreciate them man so thank you um all right next let's get um oh i'm supposed to do the spinning thing right hold on hold on now hold on guys hold on share my screen spin spinning spinning again all right y'all can see that maybe not i don't know we spinning propel fitness water with gatorade electrolytes zero sugar and vitamins propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self what propels you propel with gatorade electrolytes this episode is brought to you by palm olive family time isn't just the big moments it's weeknight dinners sitting around the table everyone talking all at once so when the plates are empty and the sink is full use palm olive ultra palm olive's most powerful formula removes up to 99.9 percent of grease leaving your dishes sparkling clean and the new convenient pump makes cleaning even easier so you can spend less time tackling dishes and more time together shop now at palmolive.com looks like trent which is funny because i'm pretty sure he was the first one in when i thought about it now i know trent wasn't first i saw him come in later let's get it trent you there trent let's get it trent you there trent going twice why he's selling ah trent i got you in early for once man what are we doing man trent i say i'm muted oh i see i see yellow i see green they got the tupac shirt on i'm about to kick him and bring him back hold up yeah let's shut it trent i might be him ah it's cooked bro it's cooked hold on guys i gotta fix my mic real quick there we go hey how y'all doing how's it going man i got you in early for once bro what's up i got freaking finally you be coming late don't blame me man hey the last one i was in there for about like hey man it'd be a lot of people all right talk to me so first i got to i just want to re-break a question back from a particular video because i feel like we got some info i feel like we needed and this is for seb this is for you uh really so now that you've got enough info as do you feel like even still you need to see the you would still uh let's pose the question to you if you could only get one would it still be blackbeard over emu yeah 100 i it's i'll go 99 i'll give you his credit he went through it down by one but i need to see black versus luffy bro what emu's doing now is great i love it but if you're telling me i gotta choose between one of those two fights give me give me give me blackbeard man i need it i need it i need it emu doing his thing he's stunning he's strong i love it i love that i hope he's the final villain but if you're only giving me one give me the one we done built up over a thousand chapters instead of this one that we've only really built i mean we've built up for longer than that because there's always been an ominous world government head probably out there but like we know who emu was through two two three hundred chapters ago you know what i'm saying for whatever whatever year that was so give me the blackbeard one man if i had to choose the more i think about it i feel like it's easily blackbeard easily blackbeard just the more i think about it because like bro emu is showing up so much right now and we've yet to see so blackbeard is still called off screen the off-screen villain like the fact that we haven't seen that much from him and emu is about is already showing out like so crazy i kind of feel like that means we're gonna get blackbeard versus luffy as like the main fight over luffy and emu i mean yeah but i also don't think just with that being the blackbeard versus luffy being the main fight i don't even think that may i feel like let's be i feel like luffy don't now look i know it never happens but look just hear me out on this right here all right don't get kicked now i don't get kicked this is just what i think would be it's i think emu gonna let's say when he's gonna win this arc okay win this arc and i feel like the beating blackbeard gonna set him up to be emu i could i could rock with that i could see that then because you if he gonna be he gonna blackbeard at like blackberry i feel like blackbeard gonna do something that show he on not on hold on paul let me let me roll back with that uh he gonna do he gonna find some way to that tips him in the favor of like competing or like giving emu at least a little bit of a struggle because at that point it's gonna be i see blackbeard is beat like having that type of power and that's when luffy's gonna beat him and he's gonna struggle and finally beat him and we gonna get that fight and that's when after the fight we they uh what's it called they fight emu or he fights emu now sam you ain't gonna like it but i feel like at that point after he fight blackbeard he may need that little bit of that push from blackbeard you know what i'm saying if you as long as you ain't saying anything you're not gonna be able to beat emu i'm with whatever keep the team up out of here keep the team up over there they do that over in the mother strolls man but like you said though it would be after they fought nah bro i'm still not you said it was a video you said it i know i said after they had the fight i'm switching up that's the crazy part i'm acknowledging i'm switching up but i'm switching up fight and it all right look he gonna have i don't think he gonna be emu before he beat blackbeard because if he beat emu he gonna one-tap blackbeard see no okay that's the exact reason that i've i've stood on i'm pretty sure sebs even heard me say this multiple times the only way i see blackbeard being the final villain and or the final fight for luffy is if he pulls a white beard on emu after luffy and whoever at the end or whoever during the fight comes and they fight and they gotta defeat emu for blackbeard to pull up and steal emu's power that's why i feel like emu or blackbeard needs another power-up to be put on the level that luffy um and them are gonna be at by the time he would be coming around again in my opinion yeah that's why i said it'd be pointless if blackbeard was if luffy luffy sat there and beat emu and then went and fought blackbeard because it's just like the power the power is just so different if you really do it at that point i mean blackbeard's getting knocked like am i wrong it all depends on what i want to do with how strong blackbeard is man like i was like like we still haven't seen a dude fight all out we still might get another devil fruit he might get an ancient weapon he might get a whole lot of stuff that can make him more formidable you are taking them right now because it would be the next technical like as if that is luffy luffy comes back wins now and he has to fight blackbeard let's be honest as of right now well how did he win did they jump him with him and loki and the straw hats and like i don't like how did they you're saying luffy beat emu head up no well like what are we saying like what are we saying we're all saying luffy's gone i mean we all want luffy to be him emu head up because that's just what we want at least i do i don't want luffy they have that power to go one-on-one and be able to do that you know what i'm saying i don't know if that's bad to hope no no i think i think i think you know what i'm saying i don't know if that's bad to hope i think we will get a situation where luffy has a group fight against emu and his peoples maybe it's a group fight against emu and then luffy has to fight and defeat emu himself it becomes a one-on-one that's kind of how a lot of these fights have been like like a like a way like how kai like everybody kind of had to kaito i mean they pitched in at the time and even then we had we had breaks in between where like yamato had to fight for a minute there you know maybe dragon fills that role you know what i mean like ultimately it'll be luffy who fights and defeats emu i i believe right but you know like i think people have mentioned the the idea around emu losing covenants and getting weaker because luffy's team is defeating his underlings that way it shows like the competence of my crew is making me win this battle when maybe joy boy's team wasn't capable of doing the same we're getting sanji conquerors hockey blooms now like who knows who else will get a conquerors hockey bloom that'll be fighting on luffy's side in a final war but if they're able to take out gorose members that should potentially weaken emu because he'd be losing covenants the way that he lost harold so if those happen in succession the way that one piece tends to happen where all the people underneath luffy win their fights and then luffy has his round two and three with the big bad like i there's a lot of ways we can go about this you know i'm saying so it's like we it just it just depends on what order decides to write which is a which is a cop-out i understand that it's a cop-out but i can see i can see him going either way as far as like who he has to fight first or whatever in order to win or become power king or whatever like i can see oda going at this point i can see it going either way i for a long time always thought it needed to be blackbeard's the main villain for the one piece luffy will find the one piece and then set his sights on the world government if oda wants this all in one bow at the same time then anybody could go at any point you know i'm saying and then it becomes what's the biggest narrative fight finale is it personal vendetta slash the the being the pirate king or is it overthrowing the world government which has never really been luffy's centric focus you know so it's like i didn't take a look here listen here so it is gonna be you could do it as somewhere black you we have uh luffy uh be but we know blackbeard a huge opportunist and he probably knows he gaining power as this going on so what if he went and took the one piece you know what i'm saying and luffy their final battle was luffy trying to get the one piece from him i don't like that personally the idea that anybody finds the one piece before luffy doesn't i don't i've never subscribed to any of those i'm just saying though i feel like it craps on i feel like that was the only thing we could just a little tough but yeah but then my last thing was so me i've always talked about i always brought it up you think it's the end for our man no flamingo though if he coming back man oh just wait on it because i've been waiting i've been every little theory i've had every little theory i've been coming up with just seems to get you know just slashed in half every other chapter listen you know he coming back man it seems like because i thought you know maybe maybe he could come back as a because he's always wanted to be a uh go back to being the celestial dragon go back as a holy knight because he hate because he'll he basically kind of like but you go back be a holy or be a holy knight or and then cross guild but we ain't heard of anything from cross guild and patience trump patience man man it's been how many chapters that's okay that's all right patience we just we just saw we just saw don creek pop back into the story man patience gang look at you i'm not you you would do your mix fan it took forever that's what i'm saying i can wait i can wait i've waited for a lot of things in my life and they coming true this summer saji saji and conqueror trent just wait on it hey look yeah i don't know so hey you gotta take wins to take l's dog you gotta take l's to get get w's you gotta go through it all man you gotta go through the journey so you know so many blackbeard's butt blackbeard probably got it too man it's up no i'm not gonna lie if i hear black blackbeard gets conquers i don't know if i'd like this i don't know if they didn't have me i may quit it like i may we know we know you ain't going nowhere trent i never said i stopped listening to the podcast i said i would just stop reading i never said that always you know what you know what what if blackbeard gets conquers and dofie comes back in the same chapter it's still good or or it's what i want dofie to one tab black so i'll be happy trent you have a good night sir all right y'all be safe man you too all right i don't know why you don't hop on my blackbeard agenda bro what's the agenda man the one where i feel like his him rocks and davy's world is too great for him to just be a luffy opponent like y'all keep saying he gonna fight luffy and lose bro there's no way black and y'all gonna hey hot take i don't care if it gets put on the list there's a one percent chance because blackbeard is gonna be the one to do it i probably blackbeard takes out emu that's what you're saying blackbeard like the blackbeard pirate the blackbeard pirates take out emu there's no because because we gotta think back we've got in rocks he wanted to be the computer boy he lost the emu that's one thing fleeting the blackbeard the other one is davy's will davy probably lost emu too so that's two the third one is emu stabbed the blackbeard's face just like luffy's hmm so there's no way we have all that and people believe emu is just gonna stop here like one second so twilight whatever you got going on like muted or whatever yeah it's my bad it was my fault go go ahead toby so blackbeard takes out emu how do you think this happens my thing is one okay the way it happened the whole process is blackbeard is going to do it do something to draw him out the same way rocks drew emu out the same way luffy just drew emu out i don't know what it's going to be but blackbeard is going to draw emu out with this on purpose on accident i don't think blackbeard is going to pull up like rocks did i don't think it's going to be fair the whole the whole thing what you're saying yo his his people might get weakened i don't think that happens i think that could happen today but i don't think luffy is going to succeed and be the emu champion i don't think that happens i think that could happen today but i don't think luffy's going to succeed and be the emu champion today i feel like blackbeard is going to do what luffy in a in a straw hat could have did this chapter i think they're going to fail at the emu's going to go back i think he's going to come back out again for blackbeard and blackbeard is going to do whatever it takes to be emu whether it's fair or not whether it's him being stronger or not and then he's gonna that's gonna be revenge because you can't tell me rocks loses davey loses and then blackbeard also loses like there's no way all three of them lose like it's like it's like joy boy failed slash nika One or the other or both Roger was too late And you're going to tell me Luffy fails Like you know what I'm saying Luffy is going to succeed He's going to be Pirate King eventually No matter how he does it Blackbeard he's going to avenge His father and Davey Like there's no way he does it I feel like that would be so disrespectful To everything that's happened You got me bro I'm with it I'm telling you bro And you know I don't even like Blackbeard But I'm with this agenda bro Let's jump out the window with it Listen Come on I'm telling you bro Ancient weapon wipes evil off the map All of Mary Joie Is that what it takes I don't know what Dragon Been doing this whole time but sure Hey bro Dragon will come out eventually That's my thing though Toby How do you reconcile Dragon's piece in this If Blackbeard's the one that takes him out Or like what's Dragon's role I know you're a Dragon guy So what's up Dragon he doesn't say a lot But one of the few times he says something He said the Holy Knights I don't think Sadly I don't think Dragon's Going to succeed So Dragon's opponent is Garling In the end is what you're saying Garling and or Shamrock Is going to be one or the other And he's going to go after the Holy Knights Now let me not say he's not going to succeed He's not going to take out Emu There's zero There's no way Zero percent chance It's going to be Luffy or Blackbeard I think it'll be Blackbeard But if not Blackbeard or Luffy Dragon he's going to try To stop the world government By trying to take out the Holy Knights And whether he does it or not Like he could fail and then someone else has to take him out Or he could succeed And him taking out the Holy Knights Helps Luffy and Blackbeard Luffy and or Blackbeard And their part in taking out Emu So either way I don't think Dragon makes it That far I think all he does is take out the Holy Knights And that's it Okay I like it I like the little Blackbeard Doing his thing Luffy becomes Pirate King while Blackbeard becomes King of the World And then they fight Hey That's what I'm thinking Everybody wins in this scenario That's kind of trying to Everybody but Emu fans I guess Yeah everybody but Emu And then Luffy of course wins in the end But I feel like everybody It's like full circle Like everybody's will Everybody's dream somewhat becomes true But only one can Win in the end and that'll be Luffy But Blackbeard is gonna The Blackbeard Pirates I want to emphasize that Are going to take out Emu Now Toby did you hear my theory about Blackbeard sitting on the Empty Throne While Emu's away Yeah Okay Alright just checking I liked it I don't think that's what's gonna happen But I do like it if it did happen If it did Okay They're saying it's Big Moo in chat man I don't know Big Moo going down man I'm sorry Bye Okay We got five gifted memberships From Davey D. Oaks thank you Davey Appreciate that throw the knock on my fist up Throw the W's in the chat and that should get a couple More entries into The call in stream So thank you Propel Fitness Water With Gatorade Electrolytes, Zero Sugar And Vitamins Propel hydrates better than water To help you get the most out of your workout And get back to your best self What propels you? Propel with Gatorade Electrolytes This episode is brought to you by Palmolive Family time isn't just the big moments It's weeknight dinners Sitting around the table Everyone talking all at once So when the plates are empty and the sink is full Use Palmolive Ultra Palmolive's most powerful formula Removes up to 99.9% of grease Leaving your dishes sparkling clean And the new convenient pump Makes cleaning even easier So you can spend less time tackling dishes And more time together Shop now at Palmolive.com All right Let's spin the wheel, man That's the agenda Come on, bro I'm not even a Blackbeard fan I don't know It ain't sounding like it Yo, bro I feel like this just makes too much sense I don't like Blackbeard I hate him Because I feel like he's meant to be hated So I have no problem hating Blackbeard That's crazy That was so close Diamond, sorry, dog All right Let's get loose in here All right Loose You there? What up, what up? Talk to me, man What's going on? Nothing much, nothing much I'll get right into it All right, I guess Title card is Low high diffs Let's see, that's simple enough Low high diffs So In this community, we often use those terms Low, mid, high, extreme diffs And After watching for a while, I realized I don't really have your opinion I don't really have your frame of reference For what you consider To be low, mid, high, and extreme diffs In the series And so that's my question What do you consider To be low, mid, and high, and extreme diffs In the series? Okay I would consider what Emu just did to Luffy A low diff I agree with that right now For sure I would consider Luffy defeating Katakuri An extreme diff So those are the two ends of the spectrum I agree with that as well I like that Okay Now Examples of high diffs You might have to go as far back as Pre-timeskip for True Luffy high diffs Actually, no I'll go Cracker Was a high diff for Luffy Huh Yeah, I'd say that's about there I won't say mid, so I'll say high, yeah I would say Caesar Was a mid diff for Luffy I'm using Luffy because he just has the most fights You know what I mean? I have more entry points, data points for him And then no diff would be Luffy vs. Kobe Yeah, that's about right So is that, are those, that work? Yeah, I think that's all about pretty accurate I guess A couple, do you think like, what about like Crocodile vs. Luffy? Just kidding Which round? Well, extreme I'm going extreme He lost twice Even the last one he should have lost anyway I'll say the fight, how it played out in the last round Was closer to a high than an extreme But in totality, I'm going extreme Just because of what happened And in general, Luffy got poisoned And without Robin saving his butt He would have lost anyway Or died anyway, so I'll say that fight almost made me want to add Like story diff as like a category Oh my god But that's just like cheated Because it's like, that one was tough But yeah, I mean that's basically I was kind of thinking of some beforehand A lot of them are Luffy fights Like Zoro, it's kind of funny Like I don't even Like I think the closest we have for Zoro Be an extreme diff fight is I guess like King But even then in the manga, it's like I don't know, there's an argument It's just high diff It was hard for me to come up with an extreme diff for Zoro Extreme diff fight for Zoro would be Mr. One And again, we're going back We're going way back I feel like extreme diff for Zoro was Mr. One As far as him winning I can also use Mihawk That's a low diff You know what I'm saying? For Mihawk I'm trying to think of other Zoro fights That could be like considered high diff I'd say Peak was probably a high diff But only because of the difficulty in landing on him In reality, it's going to be a mid diff actually It might be a mid diff I was going to say Peak's arguably like low diff I mean, because it's like he just got Someone threw, Zoro got thrown at him And he just cut him up Like in that segment seemingly And so it's like It took like a chapter or two And it was just because like he's big And so it's like maybe if he didn't have someone to throw at him It's hard to go low diff if you needed help You know what I mean? Yeah, that's what I'm saying It's like at the end of the day He did have someone throw him So it is hard for me to just say low diff But it is hard for me to imagine Zoro struggling in that fight With how easily he caught up Pika I see people asking me about Luffy versus Kaido What the diff was in the chat The first fight was no diff Low diff, no diff, whatever I feel like we gradually raised each fight Like it was low diff for Kaido Then it was mid diff for Kaido Then it was high diff for Kaido And then it was extreme diff for Luffy Like we got all the diffs in that one fight technically In that, those two people I mean, he like, I mean, Luffy died Yeah So yeah, there's definitely Yeah You have to say extreme all of us for both of them, I guess You know what? I gotta switch up I gotta switch up Cause I'm switching up I gotta swap out Kat for Kaido For extreme diff I might even swap out Dofi for extreme diff Because, swap out Kat Because Luffy did technically close his eyes mid fight versus Kat You can't do that in an extreme diff fight, can you? It's so funny cause the Kat is one of the most It's one of those fights in the series where it's It's annoying Cause like, Kat stabs himself Luffy gets poisoned by a third party And there's the whole segment of like Does Kat do that? cat actually want to beat luffy because he seemingly wants to come back and so it's like there's so much like nuance out of the fight to it that people it makes the fight so hard to scale like how actually tough it was but and maybe it's like a cop-out but like that's one of my favorite anime fights in the series i watched that show when i watched the episodes for it like luffy's getting beat up it's hard like i have to say extreme diff still i don't know if i can you can you can just say both cat and kaido were extreme diffs fights for luffy but those are different fights like it was hard it was harder to deal with the kaido you know okay yeah yeah i see what you're saying so that is true they are different tier okay i'm moving cat down the high diff man which sounds crazy to me low-key but it is like a weird thing to say because it's like you know luffy versus cat and luffy versus kaido are on different tiers but to say that it's i guess they're still in the extreme tier though i guess yeah because that's then you get into subsections of of extreme like this is extreme yeah you can just be like yeah sss extreme or whatever it's just like it's still extreme it was still extremely difficult yeah i i'll give cat his grace he got it low extreme yeah something like that we don't we don't have to get all like into that but yeah for sure okay no that's a good one well yeah that's about all i got i think okay loose well appreciate you oh i guess i will say i've been watching for a while i don't really get i never really actually get rage baited by the live because i know y'all having fun but yesterday's i was when you brought up big mom hitting kid and they were saying like all that whole conversation i was like i was typing i was a typer am i am i am i was i crazy like am i crazy for what i like what happened they were like yo he can't take a kobe punch and then they provided with me examples of him tanking big mom attacks dude i i'm getting secondhand gas lit right now because it's like y'all bringing up a panel of like it's just in my mind it's like i understand where like what the art the argument where the logic's coming from but no way when oda's right in that panel is that is the intention he's trying to convey he's conveying that kid got hit and he's flying away it's like i don't i don't think it's anything else bro it just it blew my mind toby did you see the stream last night toby i don't think it's anything else besides bro it just it blew my mind no twilight was there did you see the stream i would sleep bro they they argued with me because i was we were arguing about the fact that i think a couple streams ago i said that big mom basic attacks are stronger than honesty impact which may may be a hot take whatever i'm trying to give big mom some some some some go and then and then the argument became because larry had said that kobe beats kid which i think is absolutely nonsense right and they were they were they were they were trying to say that kobe if he lands one honesty impact on kid the fight's over and i was like that can't be true because i saw the man fight kaido and big mom etc and they were trying to argue the whole you know oh big mom didn't use hockey etc so i had to find panels to try to prove that she was using hockey in the fight and then they were providing me with panels of kid getting hit with attacks that they were like yo this this she didn't land like they were they were arguing that like the residual he was like the wave of like the hit was hitting him and stuff and i'm like guys yeah like what are we saying right now we're really thinking that's what otis could be we got to the point where they saw big mom attack kid defenseless on the ground and they said big mom must have missed what i heard that yeah that was i that was like all right man big mom mr defenseless kid that's what they said bro she hit the ground man bro to be fair the way yeah i'm not gonna comment on that it's it's bad bro it's bad but loose kid blackbeard cat marco they get you going like they just 100 of the time it's not it's not even the characters it's the takes the takes me so asinine bro the way they happen to be written bro it's just caused your i mean what guys put this way it's so funny lose put it i'm sorry put put it this way loose that wasn't the most egregious thing that was said last night i agree like toby toby lionel said that kata curry beats bullet man oh well he thinks admiral level that's his hottest take is cat is like admiral level i think that's crazy bro oh yeah the whole view he said that not even just that he beats bullet is that he would be the entire worst generation he said that he said that he could do yeah including luffy he said yeah he said he could do what bullet did in film uh uh what's the name of that movie gold gold no was it gold no whatever it was it's not z either it's new world isn't it strong world no no no it's not strong stampede stampede stampede stampede with bullet yo bro whole worst generation luffy with snake man kid killer rouge bonnie hawkins apu drake all of them and they all lose this cataclysm yeah it's a cat same yo bro it was the i couldn't and he was standing on it bro yeah this is yeah i've been saying this that larry gets too much hate and that the twins they do they do bro twins say some insane things and everyone's like larry don't don't don't loop laurence into that don't loop laurence into that he didn't say that that was lionel you're right you're right of course i did the twins takes be horrible but loki like seven lady be like yo chill whenever we like the chat starts cooking them so it's like we'd be having to let it fly loki i'll say sorry to interrupt i don't think lauren's got enough hate for countering bajoran gun i still think that's oh my god laws had his own takes we all be wild man but that's what i said everyone's wilded but the twins just fly under the radar and larry gets too much hate i'll say that larry gets too much hate y'all gotta you know what's funny we gotta be nicer you know you know what's funny toby just proved toby's point the twins started getting shade and i immediately went we all be wild like yo i get it though i get it you know what it is you know what it is they're not they don't be there in the pocket to to argue with chad or to have to defend their takes like they're not here yeah so if they was here i don't know maybe i'd still be switching out but what's he called he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said he said i forgot what already what it was he said i already forgot but he did change his take and so it is in him i thought i noticed that and so i gotta that's a great moment on the lpt man changing the tape i'll be i'll be fighting i'll be fighting for my life man trying to get them to understand things that they should not want to be for just just yo but the thing is it'd be about the most basic stuff that i'd never i'd never be able to understand things that i'd never i'd never think i need to be arguing about this you know like i didn't think i would have to argue that kata curry couldn't defeat luffy and the rest of the worst generation at the same time but you know sometimes you have to argue that it's so funny because it's like this community some it's like we're in a bit of a bubble because it's like we talk to like a regular one piece fan who maybe only watches like the anime and they think we're insane for sure yeah just because like stuff like that is just so funny they're like what i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i could only imagine but loose you have a good night man for sure sorry for interrupting you earlier by the way man i apologize that was rude to me but uh thank you thank you have a nice day rest of y'all you too bro peace peace big crazy loose oh man yeah that was bad bro that was bad it was the worst thing i've ever seen i hear something crazy every week bro yeah i honestly think chris chris might end up just doing a top hunted worst just us takes yo that's very he might do it just us like y'all y'all not even in it it's just us that would be the funniest list ever bro i feel like that i stand by i feel like that tier list gotta be in the top 10 it was in the top five it was no no no no i'm talking about tier list that bro put in uh gc like last week oh oh that was i still think about that list bro that had it had more it had zoro and sanji above luffy it had diamond joes above all of them including big mom it was bad bro that's gotta be donuts all for sure nah marco wasn't high enough man oh okay never mind all right we got five from shadow it says are they saying kobe's attack is stronger than all the damage took throughout onigashima comparable to a shank's divine departure they tried to mental gymnastics their way through how they interpreted that conversation but essentially they alluded to that which was just nasty work so yeah it also kills me that larry every single time i argue about sanji and his scaling he'll always bring up that sanji passed out after fighting queen like he didn't fight king and queen before that and black maria before that etc etc but like kobe one-shot kid and he passed out immediately after using honesty in fact and didn't fight like anybody before that so granted he was in prison so he might not have been eaten in a while but still um all right another two from red nation takes that happen when you are manga only i mean i don't have those takes i'm manga only i think we just think about one piece so much more and so it's just endless possibilities of us having bad takes yeah yeah speaking of anime this this week's episode they really glazed gabon holy for sure they're saying he's stronger than really officially now like i'm getting tired of it i mean i love me some gabon but chill out nah if you've seen if you've seen him the one attack that he pulled out during uh luffy and zoro holy yeah well he was like spamming the axe like they were like anything like this and the lead up to that bro was literally like creating a black hole suction i'm with it i'm on the i'm on the watch all right another two from jada root when i think the twins takes are getting better um yeah i i genuinely think the twins takes they stagnate because they're just not online as much as me and larry are so they don't interact with the community to the degree that we do not even just our community i'm saying any one piece community yeah so but let's get another spin going um i think i gotta add more people to this list but i'll do that after the next spin propel fitness water with gatorade electrolytes zero sugar and vitamins propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your body and your body and your body and your body and your workout and get back to your best self what propels you propel with gatorade electrolytes this episode is brought to you by palm olive family time isn't just the big moments it's weeknight dinners sitting around the table everyone talking all at once so when the plates are empty and the sink is full use palm olive ultra palm olives most powerful formula removes up to 99.9 of grease leaving your dishes sparkling clean and the new convenient pump makes cleaning even easier so you can spend less time tackling dishes and more time together shop now at palmolive.com all right looks like seropolis who is also no longer in the call-in den so sucks to suck bro all right i guess i gotta add more people no seropolis that's tough man if you come back and you're not in the call-in den you're gonna be in the call-in den you're gonna be in the call-in den down to clown come on down clown you there yeah i'm here all right talk to me man five minutes yo what's up chilling chilling chilling all right man so i was actually just planning to speak to larry but you know i'll shoot it with you since uh it's all i got yeah larry larry out with his lady right now when i called him so all right nice nice so you're like the resident sanji guy on the on the pod right uh i'd say that i think i know the twins like sanji larry's the only real like sanji detractor i'd say on the pod full-blown hater yeah yeah but it's sanji season bro and and even you i think i think you were sleeping on him a little bit yeah what makes you say that your takes man i think they they underrate him and when larry's going crazy saying some things you know you don't got a lot of pushback a lot of the time i think where you should you really saw sanji for what he was they can't argue all day i'm shocked at that i'd say especially given the recency i feel like i've had two we had a whole 53 minute video that was essentially just me arguing with larry about sanji the other day um but yeah i do think a lot of it comes down to like you know if you know how a person feels you know they're not gonna you're not gonna change how they feel you can correct them you can debate their stance etc but like if a person feels a way there's only so much arguing you can do to like before you're like whatever bro i don't care anymore at least me personally i don't i don't argue down for hours on end at least i try not to so it's just i guess more of my temperament than anything but give me some examples what do you what are you seeing what am i not arguing back what am i what am i missing what am i missing in the in the debates all right just real quick yeah yeah i guarantee me and like yeah you don't you don't want to just like keep pushing a bit he's not gonna change his mind i'm not telling you to like go after larry it's just that's what i was thinking so some some examples like i don't know i mean just right now the way you're talking about gabon bro sanji's parallel i mean i don't i don't so i i don't think gabon is stronger than rayleigh i also don't think sanji's stronger than zoro you think i'm gonna be equal to really i think they're relative i i've always thought that rayleigh would be stronger than gabon and that zoro is stronger than sanji but it would be a relative difference of like one point like if we use the rating scale that we use like 2k style if zoro if if gabon and rayleigh and prime were rated i'd say gabon is like a 94 and rayleigh's a 95 or a 94.5 whatever like it would be marginal the difference between them but i do think they're really stronger maybe that comes from the title of him being the right hand their temperaments the fact that he's the one that taught luffy hockey i don't know but it's just kind of how i've always viewed it you know i'm not mad that you know 95 94 95 94 not bad um just saying could be an ambidextrous pirate king you know wings okay you know like just saying um i don't know i actually i've seen the discord i put in a message i put in the one about that uh if you change your opinion on uh over markup and after that emu damage you said you did so um just want to say people were getting on uh sanji fans when uh zoro and sanji went up against emu and they were like oh man they're trying to they're trying to scale losses but i'm pretty sure sanji looked a lot better on purpose because we're getting sanji gaps we're hyping up we saw emu use the omen acog black fire kick like it was supposed to be a little sanji thing right there so and larry over here after zoro got hit with the peas and corn talking about he not only got hit with the peas and corn but he got hit with the peas and corn the hockey like it's ridiculous bro yeah i i actually take pleasure in the mental gymnastics that he'll go to to discredit sanji or gas or i i i think it's funny i just created with it all right man that's it bro okay i mean i put in chat they're saying i don't keep 40 of the votes saying that i don't keep hard enough for sanji so maybe maybe it's true maybe i don't keep enough man maybe okay bro you got people out here saying sanji 1v3s yeah those those are the people those are the people that are saying you're not caping hard enough 1v32 yo bro the other day last week toby i hope you weren't here for this you might have been here for this i don't remember dude said i don't remember who it was but dude in the ddt that sanji was running the gauntlet said that he would beat marco king and kata curry same time 1v3 oh no i missed that i mean i must have went to sleep before he he he said that bro there's no way it was absolutely you had to get ready for work i think yeah those are absolutely bro that's a zorro that's a zorro fan man it's absolutely the same i was i was perplexed bro i almost what did lay agree with that of course he wasn't i don't think i think larry was out at that time larry was there larry said uh he was like these are your people oh yeah no that's true you know the funny thing is that dude it was that dude's homeboy that posted the tearless in the gc yeah it was i remember now they ain't had a bait man they know they ain't had a bait all right down the clown you have a good one man yeah have a good one see you bro man there's no way did y'all even count his pig yeah bro we did it was disgusting crazy even doing it that's crazy uh all right let's get it man next caller so what was his official like stop like did he say he said he cleared bro you said he cleared speaking of sanji season oh the thing the thing crashed on me well sanji was the was the the one it landed on so sanji talk to me man yo what's going on what's going on brother nothing much man just trying to chill out i've been pretty hot and humid at work so i get to i could deal with that all day and then come home and sit in a nice ac and drink a monster while i while i watch stream um i don't know i had a couple things i guess i was gonna pitch on um but i'll pitch on my main one i guess if i if i end up striking the conversation about it more then maybe i will uh talk on the other stuff but um my main thing was i'm gonna put you on some ball okay i know i've talked i've talked to twilight about it a little bit but it's a personal favorite series of mine um i got into it during covid um and originally i got into the manga but i found that it had an anime and then i watched the anime and i was like well this anime is too good now i can't read it like i want to see this in action instead of in the manga so i'm kind of like gatekeeping myself from the rest of it um but uh the series is the saga of tanya the evil they just had a season two release um and even then i'm kind of gatekeeping myself from that because i started re-watching it with my uh with my girlfriend um but it's uh it's i would consider it in a sekai from like the golden era of a sekai um they uh it's so hard to describe if you if you've ever been interested in like i don't know like maybe like war movies or just even you know mid to early 1900s documentaries like stuff about history and whatnot i mean obviously half of one piece is history related so i would assume there might be a little bit there um but it uh it strikes pretty close to that um obviously with it being in a sekai it's like reincarnation based but in kind of a more interesting way i would say um originally this series was a light novel series and then it got a manga and then it got an anime um so there's a lot more like to build off of for an anime story's sake um and i've been reading a lot of anime and i've been reading a lot of manga and i've been reading a lot of anime listening to the light novels just like through an audiobook thing um and they make so many good like deep um connections to like a lot of uh philosophy and a lot of like um like how the human mental can be shaped by like the environment that they're in and like how rationale is built and like depending on situation it gets it gets really deep and they draw a lot of like a lot of connections to real life examples um because from the main character's perspective he's like in our timeline just a couple years ago and then he dies and gets basically sent back in time um in a different world but it's you know similar enough um but basically like the main character and um the god figure uh they kind of singleize it in the anime or it's like one god in the light novel it's almost like it's like a court of gods it's very interesting how they how they do that um and they they kind of like the main character and the gods like buttheads essentially um the main character dies and the god is like why why does why do i have to reincarnate people like you you have no faith you know you just you just live and you die and i have to sit here and just reincarnate people like you you have no faith you know you just you just live and you die and i have to sit here and just reincarnate you know merely talking to people would cause them to worship me but now you know everyone just shrugs it off like it's nothing um the main character kind of goes into a really interesting perspective on it at least in terms of like religion and how people would perceive that kind of stuff with um you know like people don't really need to quote unquote they don't people don't feel they need to worship anymore because all of their like needs are met um they have food you know a majority or a lump some of people have good social class um you know they're not uncomfortable in their living positions um you know and they have technology and advances that just make life in general easier than what it would have been before and um the god's kind of perspectives on it are like um saying that like reincarnating or managing seven billion people uh is like a lot and he's he's like it's a lot of work and i'm overworked as it is like dealing with these like lines i have to draw like that just it doesn't fit for me and the main character bits back at him because he was a um he's like a a business analytics guy and before obviously he died but he worked in like an analytics side of a business and he was like well i hate to tell you this but being overworked is the sign of a flawed business model you feel like you're stressed out and you're working too much means that whatever you're doing isn't working um and he's like you need to kind of restructure this like it doesn't make sense they kind of go back and forth um essentially the god just kind of comes down to the line of well if i were to put you in a world where you didn't have ease of access of technology life was harder you were in dire straits food wasn't easy to come by every all all of the above of basically the opposite of what he was arguing he's like if i put you in a world in those conditions would your faith then awaken for me and the main character obviously started stepping back he's like no that's not what i meant i think you took it the wrong way he was like nah we doing it yeah and the god was like nope i'm putting you there and so it becomes like this kind of back and forth competition and it's really interesting so question question question because this does sound really interesting throughout the reincarnation is is the main character aware that he was reincarnated yes so the way and i'll explain because it's not really even spoiled like this within first episode or two yeah literally the the second one is kind of this reincarnation process um but the main character literally after they have that conversation with the god and the time he froze before his death and they are having this conversation literally the millisecond before he's dead um the moment that conversation ends he dies he wakes up and he's in a baby's body he doesn't know what's going on 100 it slowly starts to click as he's thinking to himself and looking around as a literal baby being held by like a nun in a church and like you know western europe essentially um so he he is aware um and as the character grows throughout the story um they kind of they have this really strong vendetta against them to prove them wrong and the god does continually step in to try to make conditions harder for him because like it's just not enough for him like he's he's just succeeding throughout it anyway and he's like all right well i'm gonna do this so then you know maybe you'll start to you know like chisel away at you know maybe belief for me or whatever um and it seems a little unfair but even then it just keeps pushing um and it almost seems less of like a the god is trying to convert him to faith to more of the god is trying to prove the point that he is god right and it like it becomes more of like they instead of main character having vendetta for the god it's like they both have a vendetta on each other at a certain point and it gets it gets really fucking and or excuse me really interesting um like and to what we were talking about you know the other week um about music i've always been especially with one piece um i've always been especially with one piece um about music i've always been especially with one piece like big band stuff like that like it when it it plays and it's in an important moment it like really drags out the emotion and like the intensity of a scene and this is like pre-world war one kind of war battle going on um so there's constant like orchestral music and it's it's this kind of like big big epic battle kind of stuff like something you'd hear if you've ever played any of the battle music um and it's it's just kind of like big big epic battle kind of stuff Battlefield games, stuff like that. like that um it's just it aids to it one of my favorite characters is the general uh general zatour he is just like this knowledge ball of a person like he it even states that he was like kind of too good in terms of knowledge he's all brains and he shouldn't have even been in the military but he stayed anyway because he really liked it and he's really good at it um but there's scenes where he gets like he's very flat most of the time like just that you know sit down be full of wisdom kind of character eyes closed all the time the moments he opens his eyes or he gets excited he starts showing these strong emotions you know stuff is happening you know it's getting like intense you know it's getting um like important because he's getting excited about it and it just every time i see it out of him it just makes me like super excited i'm like man if he's getting excited now i'm excited and he's feeling good you said it's on crunchyroll it is on crunchyroll yeah they just had a season two release um and they're doing a release like every wednesday do you know if it's eligible for downloads because i typically watch most of my anime on my ipad on flights and i have to download them for that so if i ever you know believe it is and if i'm going to even push a further recommendation for it i would do the english dub i'm more of a sub guy myself but i think the english voices okay for this series are done extremely well with it being a militaristic kind of setting it almost feels i don't know if it's a bad thing to say more american to hear it during like the setting tells me that i might yeah i might be able to it might be able to work okay um i'll see if i can check it out it's super good i will say it's sad that the movie's not dubbed yet and obviously season two is not dubbed yet um because they fell in like a weird funimation crunchyroll dubbing situation when funimation fell under um so i don't i don't know how that's gonna work from this point on at this i don't know if crunchyroll has the ability for it life's saying it's always a touchy thing especially with a situation like that show so i remember i didn't season one come out like 10 11 years ago yeah season well season one was uh i want to say like 2017 2018 like it was like literally peak isekai era like overlord so good like that era of re-zero that era of isekai was in that class um and honestly i like to think that it stands just as tall as they do especially with the writing that like there's so much more beyond the anime that i know there is there's a like i said light novel series um the first season goes through like maybe the first two or three light novels and there's like in the 20s of light novels so there's a lot there okay so there's more data yeah if you're ever for a good read or even just for a dramatic watch um i would say this series is definitely worth the pickup um i think it's for most people it would be something really interesting if they're very um very logical very history driven whatever else maybe um but yeah that's what i got okay yeah i'm gonna have to add it to the list man i'm gonna have to i'll see if my girl likes it too because she she says she wants to get it more into anime but i want i want to give her more obscure stuff more random one season 12 episodes bro hey you want obscure yeah i got you on obscure you want obscure but it's good for like a girl that this anime is like very girl driven i guess like all the main characters are girls okay it's also very emotionally driven it's very well written i love this series so much i've also talked to twilight about it um wonder egg priority fantastic writing i love the writing and just the the in-depth character um like building that they have between each other and the themes throughout it are super super good i would say that like if you're trying to get somebody in who's just looking for something super dramatic but like something they can kind of connect to to like get hooked wonder egg priority is there too the music's good the art's good i i that's also a top tier dub for that's good too so that makes it easier for you wonder egg okay yep wonder egg priority sanji i'm gonna have to drop you there but appreciate the recommendation man yeah no problem anytime man enjoy the rest of the stream be good thank you i low-key feel like i've heard of that series before which one the tanya of the evil like the saga of time evil it's it was super popular for a second because of just the whole concept of it i love juki and juki and chad i love that i'll mr i'll add it to the list seb i see that listen i'll be adding them i i'll show y'all my notes i add these things man whether i watched them as a whole yeah i was gonna say you add them how many of them you watch have you even started slime yet nope my dog we did get another two dollar super chat from jada rude it's a seb you let larry say zoro is as fast as sanji nah hey man reaction speed maybe no probably not even that no i don't think that's the case either but yeah we did get another gift from little dj 56 flow state thank you man appreciate that oh man uh all right who's next let's get the spin wheel going let's do it propel fitness water with gatorade electrolytes zero sugar and vitamins propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self what propels you propel with gatorade electrolytes this episode is brought to you by palm olive family time isn't just the big moments it's weeknight dinners sitting around the table everyone talking all at once so when the plates are empty and the sink is full use palm olive ultra palm olives most powerful formula removes up to 99.9 of grease leaving your dishes sparkling clean and the new convenient pump makes cleaning even easier so you can spend less time tackling dishes and more time together shop now at palmolive.com it's looking like polarized all right let's get it let's get it let's get it polarized you there i am here hello hello how's it going man how's it going it's going good today man it's a good day polarized i gotta i gotta say i gotta say something to you man i know man you be defending me in chat you be defending me on the youtube comments my girl went and looked at one of our most recent videos and was like this guy's the best i've ever seen you've been defending me on the youtube comments and was like this guy's defending you that was so funny to me bro it's on i can't seb i how do you do how do you do it man i grew up with you i grew up with these people man that's how i do it i grew up i'm sure you know why i called today bro just off uh bro what what are we watching what are we reading what are we doing right now what's what what you you heard me last time with blackbeard i feel like if he wants to address that what i heard him say larry at some point like if he wants to smoke he can catch it he can catch the smoke any day i'll wipe them i promise put me in there coach that's a b what is what am i hearing about kid now man bro colby bro i i i'll be you seb come on like all right i'll just i'll take it slow i'll take it slow for the people who might need it who don't who don't know kid like that who ain't who ain't here about his feats we're just gonna we're take it come with me we're on a journey together all right just narratively like i just want to start there and uh you can disregard this section if you want if you're not a big narrative person when i see him leave wano and he's got an equal bounty and i know people don't like bounty scaling but to me in the moment when they gave kid law luffy the same bounty that doesn't mean they're the same strength as luffy it's just meaning that narratively these people are being portrayed as rivals to luffy and luffy ain't entertaining a weak rival that's all i'm gonna say on that luffy's not gonna sit there and and and accept no flack from someone he don't get to like at least that's not one of his nakama that he's got an active rivalry with that i'm gonna just leave it at that if you want to go by feats man what were they what were they doing what were they like yeah like i don't know like larry had to basically admit that actually she was using hagi but i i don't even understand how the argument got past that point because at that point you did like every conversation i've heard about them they're saying he never got hit once by any hockey attack that we can see just that one punch big mom hit on him where he had to hit a sign like if you in your heart of hearts believe truly that big mom was using zero hockey in that attack or that that attack wasn't like at least somewhere near or above a katakuri level attack i don't i don't know i don't know what to tell you you just don't respect big mom at that point my man and and the big mom disrespect is real too but we'll save her for another time because i ain't even got time for that i i just don't understand we're talking about a dude who like on panel restrained her multiple times restraining a yonko let me tell you like dude we didn't even need to bring in a sign you know they don't like a sign for whatever reason i'd whatever they think it won't do anything even though we saw it work on big mom whatever even without a sign he wrapped a bracelet around that woman tossed her in the air hundreds of feet on the roof hundred like uh to the point where she like looked down and was like oh that she'd get hit by law and she's like nearly falling off the roof that's just him just just with his normal devil fruit just his devil fruit itself he's out here grabbing and restraining yonkos with just general constructions are we are we really about to say he can't do that to kobe i don't yeah that's the other thing like that's the other thing that's the other thing that's the other thing that's the other thing like i've never like even even beyond the thought process that like if kobe could land he would knock it out which i think is asinine but what what's the what i don't get the thought that he's just immune to all the stuff in kid's kit now right well because he's speed like what what speed feat does he have that like uh is he luchi fast like like what how is he landing these things it to them it's more impressive that kobe blocked potentially an arrow from maybe boa maybe just one of her kuja fodder than it is that kid tanked attacks from yonkos okay but that arrow right if i'm gonna take that at its face value and just be like all right well can kid do that i mean yes unless you think that that arrow is faster than yonkos like i did like if that's your argument that somehow that arrow would be faster than kaido or big mom then yeah i guess he would perish to that arrow but other than that like that's a speed he can keep up with he i mean we're talking about a like uh dude this man got internally damaged in his fight but like at the beginning of the fight he got internally damaged to the point where he's like on the ground nearly passing out and then he went on to fight big mom yeah then he went on to be the tank bro while he was fighting big mom he was actually being hit with hawkins tax like like while he's fighting a yonko yeah man i i'm fighting a yonko and i'm here like eating internal damage what kills me the most too they're like yo who is kid ever beat and i'm like who is kobe ever beat and they have no answer and then like i'm like what are we i i don't know man i don't get it i i don't get it and i mean it even even if you want to just look at the law and kid versus big mom fight and you just like break it down to its very simplest level in my opinion it was a tank and a dps making up for their lack of the other right right so law is a dps he can't eat damage like kid let's just keep it at that i'm gonna like if you believe that law's got better durability than kid i don't know what to tell you from what we've seen so to me and and when we see law damage big mom he's doing and i will concede this more damage when he's like internally damaging big mom with these attacks that is doing more damage than kids blunt attacks straight up just to the point but the whole problem is that he can't eat the shots or distract big mom as long as kid can and this is a kid who has to be that role as a tank after already being damaged after already eating internal damage so now we're talking about he this is the part that bothers me the most i think is it's just i feel like they just read it and they're like oh my god this is the part that bothers me and they're like oh my god big mom fight and whenever anything happens to kid he gets like an upscale he gets attacked he gets an attack off he's blocking overpowering whatever it is it just gets shoved to the side somehow we're like multiple rooftop attacks if i gave you a character right i'm creating an original character and we're throwing them in instead of kid and i told you this he survived fighting kaido at least once to the point where kaido was saying yeah he kept getting back up this guy's a monster those are kaido's words he thinks kid is a monster so don't go disrespecting kaido's word because kaido would go most people would think to a hard to extreme diff with a loki so it's to me you're you you'd be discounting kaido's opinion of what strength is a b like i i can't say b why are we sitting here pretending in any form or fashion like when we're seeing these attacks these named attacks i'm talking about akaku sovereignty i'm talking about full gora mama raid the the the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama and there's only two things you could argue and this is truly like what it boils down to there's only two options it's either a kid is dodging or b he's not dodging he's either taking damage or he's not those are your options when you see oda draw on panel big mom the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attacks the big mama attack either at kid or in kid's direction and most of the time they were at kid because again he was serving as the distraction as the tank for law to hit him with off guard hits if you go back and watch that entire fight law hits big mom like six times off guard she never gets hit on guard except for one time and that's what the very last attack so let's not pretend like it was just law out here doing the distracting and the damaging and the maneuvering like he would this wasn't law 80 kid 20 this was two people with awakened devil fruits doing what i would consider equal work you can't sit there and damage a yonko and be like that's not impressive therefore law is impressive on that same note you can't look at a man survive being in a scrap with a yonko where it's a contest of strength and it's not looking like a low or a mid diff you can't look at that and tell me that that's not impressive that that doesn't upscale someone i like we're talking about a polarized i feel you bro you're over your five so i gotta drop you now but yeah man kids always got a bad rap in the community they don't like them i i i mean listen it's fine but we i'm and hear me out i ain't even a kid fan you know what i'm a fan of i'm a fan of looking at panels and taking what you're seeing if you're gonna sit here and argue that what you're seeing like if you're arguing that a kaku saw all this stuff never landed on kid and that only grazed him whatever like you said before if you arguing that honesty impact is more damage than we saw him take on all of onigashima You lost the plot. you gone i don't know where you at you you're in topt man bro oh man yeah well good luck with that seb i know it's gonna i know it's gonna be ride or die on the next one also yeah man polarized you have a good night have a good night homie peace uh buddy it's funny but i let's get to the next we had a couple super chats um one from young joker it says stop being lazy and start the slime anime listen man i'd be busy i'd be busy bruh okay i do um but one day one day another two from loki faded who in the new era would have been around a rocks pirate um probably a lot of pirates the way rocks ran his crew or set the crew up essentially all you had to do was pull up on pirate island and and want in on a score i feel like a lot of pirates out here would do that um if i had to guess spoggy maybe if he's in the new world um i could see crocodile gravitating i could see blackbeard gravitating i could see blackbeard gravitating to that um well i have a fundamental disagreement with people saying that rocks made anybody bend the knee so that's that's another thing yeah that's that's another thing to me it's more of an alignment of interests than it is a this my captain um you feel the same way about blackbeard's crew yeah kind of i mean so we have the original four that seem actually like legitimately loyal to blackbeard to me and then i've seen some of the like newer people seem a little loyal like katarina devon talks about blackbeard with some reverence you know um they're like oh i have to do this before teach me how to do this and i'm like oh i have to do this before teach me how to do this like the black the rocks pirates didn't talk about blackbeard like that you know what i mean about rocks like that they were kind of doing their own thing i mean maybe i'm mistaken if you have i mean i'm white beard is the one who wanted to go get kato right like rocks wants you that that's that that that could be used as an example um i don't know i would like to have seen that entire interaction i guess is what i'll say you know like i'm using entire interactions to speak to this point we kind of had one panel of whitebeards saying hey rocks was looking for you or whatever to kaito yeah um or was interested or whatever you know i don't know how that actually works but almost every other panel we get is like oh we don't care if rocks dies we're this and that and again i think i i even when i highlight in my threat level analysis it was like yo like they weren't a unit that rocks even trusted himself when he when it came down to it it was a yo i can ask harold to help me go save my my wife and child and my family but he didn't trust anybody else on the crew with that information not even not even whitebeard so i feel like if blackbeard was in the same predicament maybe i'm overestimating blackbeard's bonds with some of his crewmates but the way that they talk about him sometimes i feel like he could rely on van auger in that situation but i don't know maybe i'm overestimating the bond there another 20 from shadow it says law is overrated his strongest attacks when he put room on a sword he needs to sacrifice his teleportation speed for his basic movement speed that's why law needs someone to distract the opponent or off guard hit them with it um it's tough for me i do agree with your analysis of the abilities that he's using i'd say it's tough for me to straight up say that he's overrated because i see people say the law isn't a 1v1 fighter at all that's just not true in my opinion you know i hate that yeah like i i don't if i'm fighting like like he was getting jumped by doflamingo and fuji torah you know i'm saying and then like the damage the residual damage from that made him not as capable of fighter and then he got jumped again by doflamingo and trable so like where where are these one-on-one fights that he had that he should have won and didn't you know what i mean like then then i'm fighting the yonko on the roof and big mom then i'm fighting blackbeard and i don't i agree i don't agree with the notion that black law got jumped by blackbeard i've never subscribed to that it was a crew v crew fight and blackbeard actually had less crewmates with him but like blackbeard is just stronger than people think he is like he's gonna he's not winning that fight so yeah it's like the idea that he's not a 1v1 fighter just isn't that's not real to me so yeah he's such he's so good at supporting that they just act like he's not good at anything else i hate that yeah i don't like that i don't like that talking to you chris because you be saying that stuff man yeah chris he's the main one driving that i'll get it all right let's get another call right here i got a hard stop at like eight so i gotta have to start rapid firing some people let's do it yeah they keep hoeing diamond bro it's miss diamond every time oh but the last time we came missing him he came up here and said nothing so you know what's crazy i know something you know what's crazy madara you you was next and you gone bro why you leave oh he did say it was he was saying in gc it was midnight for him and he had a be up at six oh okay okay fair all right and landed on nyc anime nerd so nerd come on down nerd talk to me man what's up um how long do i have because uh either i can just yap for a minute i can do my theory five minutes i gotta get out of here by eight and i still got like five people also get an echo from you yeah hold on let me hear enough this um okay uh i really wanted to do my update theory but i'll just talk about a few things and let me know when five minutes is up okay um uh something i've been thinking about a lot lately is that i find it very strange that the mera mera went from brother to brother as if it's following the Nika. We know that I feel like the Nika's not at its full, you know, level. Because when I think of a sun god, I think of fire. And I'm not really getting that vibe from him. When Ace dies, we see a little bit of the essence go into him. But the next time we see Meramera is when we see Luffy and Sabo see each other again. Like, it's literally following the Nika Nika fruit. You know, like, it's part of it. That god fruits may have one of each. You know, they may be full fruits. And so that's why I'm like, what? What could be that third fruit that goes into it? You know, that whose fruit would be there? But I don't see anybody's fruit there. Now, secondly, Law and Kid and Beppo may show up next episode. Because we, if Law, it's so, or not episode, next chapter. So in the next chapter, it's the, it's going to come out on the full buck moon. And during the buck moon, it signifies when deers lose their antlers. Now, Copper's fruit is literally the Hito Hito, no, me. It's the human, human fruit, right? So, like, you can't become, you can't be a doctor. Like, you can't do surgeries with, like, deer hooves, you know? So, like, what if his awakening or his first awakening is becoming human so he can do that? Now, what's really weird is if you look at chapter 1189, 1189 in Gorowase means good medicine. So. Law could create. A room. Chopper could awaken. Brooke would be able to. keep luffy's soul in there and this is maybe when he starts you know like like maybe his awakening is something vega punk-esque in the sense of like medical stuff but we also have another surgeon there you know there to help him now i also think that he will do a room on uh on mu and like basically diagnose him and see that like they have that they have metal hearts which i think is going to start to make a lot of people think that you know that he's going to be able to do that and i think that's going to be a lot of people uh wopple is going to be like an end game character now wopple is with vivi right now like i don't see morgan's like taking down anyone you know so like he could just be waiting for the right time and his ship it flies like it's it if he turns that into lead it goes back to like like a literal led zeppelin which goes back to my zoro theory which zoro is gonna die on lbf i still stand by that i know i'm all over the place don't worry but this is what you get when you don't want a theory and you want me just to yeah so uh well that's on you man that's on you let me just say this is not me this is not what i wanted to do that is time but no i thought two very interesting thoughts you brought up with the mara flying nika and potentially getting law and kid on lbf i think those are interesting oh it's when they winter island the closest island to it is lbf like and and he gave him he gave him medicine it was the only way you know hmm but also on that day that the chapter comes out um saturn is uh saturn uh shiron and leo are all uh are in a parade which means they're all this is the last thing they're all straight across now those two are both moons of saturn and i know saturn died but who took his place and so like i think that there's going to be you didn't answer it in the ask us anything but i think we're going to see a a meeting of uh shanks and chammy on lbf hmm okay nerd that is time yeah go for it go for it no you're good sorry i just gotta get out of here soon yeah no no i get it dude last week was crazy how are we going shanks and shamrock on lbf it's very possible very possible all right we spin it again let's get it look we lost lex all right speedy three times so speedy three times speedy three times speedy three times speedy you there yo all right man talk to me you got five minutes i'm doing rapid fire i gotta get out of here by five minutes two quick questions bro luffy luffy and gear five do you think he really finna get a hybrid form like i've heard he may not get one hybrid form could be like a i don't know an ego switch and me thinking about it i can't think of nothing um the way gear five works i don't think he'll have another form at all really it'll be a situation where all right so the basically the way gear five actually works luffy can essentially become whatever he envisions like we saw him become a genie last chapter you know literally so there's no like i don't think there's another form like i don't think one i don't think there's a gear six and two i don't think there's a form that he'll go into unless he's just basically like i don't think there's a hybrid form to that the yeah the way the fruit is the way that is is whatever luffy envisions he could become a tonka truck if he feels like it you know what i mean like it won't be a hybrid form it'll just be him doing more random forms you know what i'm saying yeah so now and that leads straight into my second question because if he doesn't get a hybrid form do you think okay you know like in dragon ball z when goku and then when super saiyan and after a while instead of trying to get stronger him and gohan just stayed in that junk like non-stop until they got used to it do you think luffy gonna have to get used to it or like he's missing the piece i remember a bunch of episodes back somebody said luffy might eat the mother flame and then his gear five would turn like colorful or whatever and that's his fully formed you think it's gonna be like that or something i mean that would be a wild sequence of events um my only fear is like would he be not capable of getting out of gear five if that's the case you know what i mean um yeah but that would just kind of be like a i don't know like a a mastery of the form i guess but then it's not him who did it it's the mother flame did it you know i don't know if i like that that's fair that's a mean i'm not saying it's not possible i'm just saying that's a like that would be luffy finding like that's luffy upgrading in a way that gives him this permanent bloom that's like yo i ate something and it let me it's basically him eating another devil fruit you know what i'm saying yeah um but that's why i leaned with the goku thing at first because i would look he prefer him to just get used to it it's it's kind of a way that explains every little inconvenience after he got gear five he's just using it it's more so just him trying to get used to him having fun in it or just whatever but that's not solving his hockey problem you know what i mean like yeah he gotta get joy boy level hockey to be emu and stuff you know so rayleigh said the only way to get better is to just use it you gotta fight bro yeah i mean if he could fight with his i mean i don't know he gotta do something about that you've been waiting you gotta cross that hurdle brad yeah you have to you have to do something man that was it brad i know you i know you press the time man that's all i want okay i appreciate you bro you have a good one yes sir i appreciate you man all right all right spin the wheel again man Navi, come on down. Navi, you there? Navi. Talk to me, dog. Navi, you've been here a minute, bro. Don't do this, man. There we go. Talk to me, man. Rapid fire. You got five minutes. Hit me. All right, bet. Yo, I'm mad nervous. That's my first time here. Okay, so let's see. I feel like I'm just going to give you some extra information on, like, how I think Sanji would do in, like, these matchups and Blackbeard. Because, like, you're, like, a Blackbeard stan, I think. And Sanji's, like, I think, underlooked. Like, I'm going to say that, one, Sanji's different frames are, like, at least if you Google it, they're hotter than Magna, right? So I'm not saying that he's going to beat Akainu. I'm not leading there. But what I'm saying is that Marco couldn't beat Akainu in, like, that clash. So the reference on Marco nullifying Sanji, I feel like, at least on fire versus fire basis, is that kind of defeats that point. Now, when it comes to the hockey addition, like, when it comes to adding hockey on it, you could say that that's the reason why Marco lost. Like, Akainu probably has stronger hockey. But I think Ifrit Jambi is stronger than what Marco can produce. Now, if he wins. If we're going off this theory that he wins with a hotter fire, his hockey makes him. Him applying his hockey to Ifrit Jambi makes his hits heavier and him faster. We already, I think, can deduce because Queen could see Marco move, just couldn't react fast enough. But that's not. That's you not having the speed stat, not the. Accuracy stat, right? So you can still see something coming. You just can't move out the way. Queen couldn't even see Sanji move. So now Sanji has it in the speed stat. At least in that regard, when it came to. to Marco versus King and Queen Sanji the same thing arguably longer so I feel like when it came through to the debate of like where he goes throughout the gauntlet I feel like he's probably under looked now again only have five minutes so I'm not gonna go too long but I feel like these points kind of you can scale them up in like and if you're defending on Sanji point now when it comes to Blackbeard you begin a lot of you to begin a lot of smack but um I just want to say one thing the guru is a lot stronger than a lot of people want to admit because Blackbeard doesn't use it offensively like Whitebeard did he uses it he uses it versus he used it versatile the words escaping me because it's a short period of time but for instance Law's K-Room he says it when he applies it the first time he says it when he applies it the first time he says it when he applies it the first time he applies like an anesthetic around it right using his room so it in turn if you look it up bypasses defenses naturally he uses it for stabbing but in theory he could use it for slicing as well but he uses it because it's going to bypass you could say practically all defenses maybe like a level 2 armorant hockey might be able to stop it right and we could say that maybe Blackbeard doesn't have that which is which I think would be fair but the guru is compressed air it create like from what we see from Whitebeard do and from what we see Blackbeard do it creates a pocket around his it's it's a cheat code or like a way of to do level two armament hockey without having it and that's how he stopped um and that's how he stopped K-Room like um and that's how he stopped K-Room like when law did that move and they clash when law did that move and they clash when law did that move and they clash because any other effect that Blackbeard because any other effect that Blackbeard because any other effect that Blackbeard does with that move does with that move does with that move has the visceral effect of what a guru has the visceral effect of what a guru has the visceral effect of what a guru attack would be attack would be attack would be that didn't happen in that clash because that didn't happen in that clash because that didn't happen in that clash because he didn't use it offensively he used it he didn't use it offensively he used it he didn't use it offensively he used it defensively after he got hit the first defensively after he got hit the first defensively after he got hit the first time time time then he resorted to yami which then he resorted to yami which then he resorted to yami which in turn everybody's always saying that in turn everybody's always saying that in turn everybody's always saying that yami or not everybody but i would say yami or not everybody but i would say yami or not everybody but i would say there was an old point that was made in there was an old point that was made in there was an old point that was made in your arguments where your arguments where your arguments where like the person that the yami has to like the person that the yami has to like the person that the yami has to grab is always face forward i mean grab is always face forward i mean grab is always face forward i mean the the simplest version would be that the the simplest version would be that you kind of always have to you know you want to face your opponent most of the time so anytime this yami is going to grab you're probably going to be facing it but the deeper underlining thing is that if you're a devil fruit user it pulls your devil fruit it doesn't like it pulls the essence of what a devil fruit is yeah it doesn't pull the individual navi so or nav that's all right but that's time my bad but i appreciate you helping me out with the debates man i do i'll have to use some of these yeah man that's what i'm hoping you use them in the next in the next uh go around because uh blackbeard is a lot stronger and i i got converted low-key like i'm i was arguing with somebody in the discord about like you know blackberry is not really all that but at the same time um when they pointed out some references that was that was one of the things and i went down a deep dive and yami and guru as a combination blackberry doesn't use it the way whitebeard or anybody else would have used it so that's what i think he slept on so there you go all right man appreciate you have a good night ladies all right next up we spinning again i guess lex is gone let's do it buzz i feel like buzz was here early man buzz groove you there what's going on brother my bad rapid fire rapid fire i know you've been there a minute oh it's cool it's cool i'm just here so i want to throw my hat in the ring for uh cat versus kid because there's a point that's been in my mind that i don't think i've heard anyone on the pod bring up though i want to bring it up to you uh because i do think like narratively kid should be cat however can kid touch katakuri what do you mean like can he hit him he should be able to physically should you mean like he would future sight dodge or how are you how are you how do you mean so like yeah basically yeah because uh katakuri can just mochi move his body around and just avoid it like luffy was in hydra or he was in snake man using hydra and katakuri was still able to maneuver his mochi body around the hundreds of hits coming from every single direction like i just i don't think that kid can do anything that's like on that level of an oppressive attack to even touch katakuri because to me like the wind condition would be like a sign but i don't think he can put a sign on cat in order to do that so like on paper it should be kid but i just i just don't see how it's gonna work i don't think it's gonna work i don't think it's gonna work i don't know how it could be kid based on how katakuri fights okay so if the debate is whether or not he can use a sign effectively i don't know that he physically needs to make like he doesn't need to make physical contact with you to for a sign to land because he didn't make physical contact with big mom when he landed it on her but i thought he like yeah smacked on the head with it yeah but did it physically like did it did an s suddenly appear and like hit her you know what i'm saying like i i thought he was the magnetic forces were being like he he used a magnetic force to attach and then use another magnetic force to attach another piece and then those two things like you know what i'm saying like that's how i viewed it i didn't i never views it views it as a physical object touched big mom and then another physical object had to touch the other thing for him to use a sign maybe i'm wrong in that but to me it was like a metaphysical magnetic field or pull that hit her now whether or not you're saying that that metaphysical magnetic pull can hit or magnet itself can hit cat that that's another conversation right if big mom split her head in half in the middle of that attack would it still have assigned her you you get what i'm saying the way that cat can yeah yeah yeah i i would argue that it would um but i don't have like a i'm not a scientist you know what i'm saying like i don't i don't like it's all fake science and made up powers so it's hard to hard to gauge but yeah yeah i just i don't know even if i think i would personally assign him and and has just a bunch of scrap come out of the woodworks to attack cat i still feel like he could kind of mochi i don't know because his body's just so so like it's it's not like physical like a person things can go through him my other question becomes if he say category does use the awakened mochi and and uh kid decides to use his awakening in turn to change the magnetic or pull or property of the mochi itself who then has control would it be kid or i didn't even think about that so like so you know how cat can create those like circles of mochi just like in the air are those those like a part of him right it's not like luffy where it like literally comes out of nowhere it's weird with cat because it he the way he the way he operates it's like a logia but he's not a logia so is he a logia or is he a logia he's producing this stuff from himself but he's not a logia so it's like i don't know if that's all like him it's all mochi so is that also a part of the assign and he create enough mochi around to like negate the assign because technically that's all him i don't know like it wouldn't go to him it would just go to all the mochi oh my god i want to see this fight yo that's crazy it'd definitely be an interesting matchup i'll tell you that yeah i still got kid though extreme diff i mean that's fair yeah i don't maybe i don't feel too strongly on it i just had that thought maybe high diff but buzz i gotta drop you there that's five oh please kick me out use the boot have a good one man you too man see ya all right we spin again gotta add villains name actually i'm not adding you villain You got to wait between these two, bro. Man, they keep hoeing Diamond, man. Diamond, you be all right, bro. Fuego. Fuego, you there? Fuego, go on once. Fuego, can you hear me? What's up, brother? Talk to me, man. Rapid fire. I got to get out of here. All right, so mind quick, bro. I ain't done. So mind quick, I just want to talk about Kingdom, bro. Hey, hit me. I need you to talk about it. Hit me. Bro, so I'm up to the part. I'm up to the part. Well, Shenzhen got promoted to 1,000. Like, that's where I'm at right now. Like, he officially got it. Like, he just did his thing at the war, and he officially got it. Kwe Lee left, so that's where I'm at right now, bro. But where I'm at, bro, it is fire, bro. That was a good record for me. It don't stop, man. Kingdom. Listen, where we at right now? It really down. Where we at right now, bro? Listen, One Piece been on a crazy run over the past, like, 100 chapters or whatever, 50 chapters. Kingdom. Kingdom. Kingdom over it right now. I'm not even playing. Emu popped out, and Kingdom over that right now, based on what I'm reading. Dang. Bro. So I ain't even getting nothing yet, huh? I ain't even going to spoil. You know what? I can't. Yeah. Bro, I was talking about this. You know what? You know what? I might be gassing a little. I'll be mad at. But, yo. I'll be mad at. I'll be mad at Shen, bro. Shen be at the real immature. I'll be like, bro, he's trying to grow up, my boy. Listen, he grow. He grow, man. He grow? He grow. Listen. Okay, okay, okay. You at the thousand, man. I wonder who he for? Who he for? What general he for? He just got done. Hunch. What her name? Hun Lee. Hun Lou. Lou Hun. The name's be. Are you watching the reading? She under Leanne Powell. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That war. That war. You know, Lou Hun. Yeah. Listen. And he just now, they're doing a little ceremony where he just got his little, you know, gifts and stuff. I don't want to spoil. I don't want to spoil, man. Bro, the coalition. I remember you said somebody coalition. I didn't get that yet. Listen. Listen. I just know. Coalition. So a little bit away. Yeah. Just know. Yo. So Fuego. Twilight. He read all the kingdom in like, what was it? A couple months. How do you put it? No, I was gonna say, if you put it together in the time, if you take out the break I took to let Nuxie catch up, I read it in basically the equivalent of like two weeks. I was like, I don't know what you're talking about, but I'm like, I don't know what you're talking about, but I was like, I don't know what you're talking about, bro. I was like, I don't know what you're talking about, but I was like, I don't know what you're talking about, but I was like, I don't know what you're talking about, but I was like, I don't know what you're talking about, but I was like, I don't know what you're talking about, but I was like, I don't know what you're talking about, but I was like, I don't know what you're talking about, but I was like, I don't know what you're talking about, but I was like, I don't know what you're talking about, but I was like, I don't know what you're talking about. Rob Markman: I was on a flight to Atlanta like two weeks ago. I binged that, bro. I was on a plane like- Rob Markman: I work a lot, bro. I work a lot. I don't really get it. I got two kids. All right, so I remember a while ago I did a Super Chat and I was like, yo, I want you to give a shout out to Amanda, Serenity, and Lyric. You was like, bro, I hope you ain't dating all three of them. I was like, yo, I want you to give a shout out to Amanda, Serenity, and Lyric. I was like, nah. I didn't have enough little characters, bro, for the Super Chat that I had then. But Amanda's my wife and then my daughters are Serenity. You seen Serenity. That's the one that came on stream with me one time. Rob Markman: Okay. Rob Markman: And then Lyric, the little one, she ain't ready for all that yet. Rob Markman: I love that, man. I love to hear that, bro. Fuego. That is- Rob Markman: I appreciate that, though, bro. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. Fuego. I appreciate that, bro. That's good. I'm locked in on that. I'm going to keep you updated where I'm at, though. Rob Markman: But before I let you go, because I got to drop you. Who's your favorite character so far? Is it Shins? Fuego. Rob Markman: So far? Fuego. Rob Markman: You just said you don't like how immature he be. So who's your favorite character? Fuego. Fuego. Fuego. Rob Markman: So right now, bro, I ain't going to lie to you. Right now, it's a throw up between. I like Leigh-Anne Poe. I ain't going to lie. Rob Markman: Okay. Fuego. Fuego. your boy Wayne Lee's side man. The crazy one. Toe? He's reading the Chinese. Yeah, but he's talking about Toe, right? Or am I tripping? Yeah, that's him. I would say Toe. All right, respect. Bro, that dude, that beast, bro. It's either Toe or Yotanwa. Those are the only two for me. Who your favorite is? You ain't met them yet. Oh, damn. I love Shin. I love Toe. You ain't meet my favorites yet. Actually, he probably met, he met Kyokai already, right? No? Yeah, no, he definitely met Kyokai. I love Kyokai, bro. That's my girl. The girl that be with Shin. Not the strategist one. Not the strategist. The fighter. Oh, Kiali? Yeah, so you're reading the Chinese translations. I don't know if you know any of the names that they got. But, listen. Yeah, we all read the Japanese. Listen. Okay, okay. Listen. Kyokai, Yotanwa, Kanki, Osin, Shohei-kun. That's why the names don't, now that you said that the translation different, bro. Now it makes sense. I'm like, I'm reading the same story, but the names ain't, it's, it's, well, I'm really, I'm watching it. And I'm reading a little bit, but I got it off Shona Jump. So that's how I'm reading it. That'd be why, that'd be why they do the, they do the Chinese. We, we, we support Shona Jump. They should look different than, like, regular mangaka. Like, it's crazy. It's different. I hope I ain't just spoiled that. That's my bad if I spoil something. Puego, I got it. No, you good, you good. I'm locked in, bro. I got it dropped. She just left. She left. Like, she went to go get her revenge. So they ain't even seen it yet. They going through the, the, the loss. They keep losing. That's before the, the, the chick that used to be with him, that used to be in the little suit. Yeah. She just came back. They just introduced her back. Okay. And she's a tactician. That's exactly what I meant. That was the last, the last thing I was on. Okay. I bet. Puego, keep us posted in the, in the kingdom chat, man. We got kingdom chat. Keep us posted. Oh, you do? All right, man. I'm finding it. I got you. Yeah. I bet. Yes, sir. Y'all boys be easy, man. Shout out, shout out, shout out, Twilight, shout out Toby. Yes, sir. Take it easy, Puego. All right, bro. Have a good one, bro. Yes, sir. Toby, when you starting kingdom, man? Bro, I still got to get, if I'm going to start anything, it'll be Ippo again. But I haven't even started Ippo in so long. Where Gamera on at, man? Yeah, bro's been on Gamera. I was just giving him smack about Gamera on the other day. You know what? Don't even worry about it. And then Ippo. Gamera, then Ippo, because Gamera's shorter. Diamond, five minutes. Talk to me, bro. Rapid fire. All right. I just want to say I was number two in line, but it's all good. Yeah, we got to do a better job of keeping track, man. That's my bad. I was going to say, I watched the Elwha video you were featured in. And I feel like a point for the, should other countries' animes be nominated, it should have brought up Parasite, the Korean movie. I like that movie was, you know, a Korean director, but like it ended up being like one of the best movies like ever, you know? Like that could have been a good point. They didn't give us the questions to prep, man. I was off the cuff. You know what I'm saying? We just kind of. Fair, fair. I was just off the cuff with it. Yeah, nah, but I was going to say, because I listened to like the God I Hate Him podcast with like Shamim and them, and they had Elwha. And I used to think that like sometimes you guys be crazy with Parasitism, but I think they might take the cake. Elwha or Shamim? I didn't know. It started off with Shamim, but then Elwha kind of were like, were kind of co-signing. Not really, but you know, I'm guessing it, but they were saying that Zorro had a, Zorro then had a better chance of beating Katakuri and Whole Cake Island than Luffy did. And the reason is, like it originally started with the Katakuri King debate. And then, you know, with those type of debates, it pivots to other characters. And then they were saying how like, which is technically true that Zorro really didn't get a power-up from like Timeskip up until he got Enma. And then how, I forgot who said it, but they were saying how like Katakuri, took like multiple hits from Luffy and he was still like good. But like when it hit from Zorro, you could like pass. So I just wanted to, you know, those are your people, bro. Yeah, listen. Listen, they good people, man. I don't know. No, they are. Listen, the twins and Larry can't scale half the time either, bro. I can't, scaling isn't why I mess with people, bro. Scaling's the last thing I look for in a topped collab. man, in a top friendship. whether you can scale is the last on the list bro you know i don't know bro effects are still blocked and he's a meathouse fan effects are blocked because larry be feeling a way about effects are spoiling it's not because he can't scale ah that's true yeah yeah but uh yeah i don't play with larry don't play with spoilers yeah that's why it's an instant man chat even yeah bro he never got in band i think he did he just don't be around so i don't know yeah but that was pretty much all i had and also y'all should uh try to do like a one piece jeopardy game because i played one in the shmeems like server and i'm not gonna gas myself but i was doing pretty good until one guy started because there was you know i was like oh my god i'm not gonna gas myself but i was doing pretty good until one guy and one of them was openings and the other one was like closings this guy in that server i mean they're all cool people he was moving like that geo guesser guy where you see one image and he's like oh yeah that's that's uh opening 15 and the song name and everything like it was crazy i think we did jeopardy once no back way back in the day toby am i tripping i don't remember i think we did jeopardy i know we did family feud i don't remember if we did jeopardy or not definitely did family feud we maybe did jeopardy i can't remember yeah but yeah we i'm planning on doing another um mod night once the um survivor tournament is over with that additional member um for their one day mod so diamond i know you're a part of that so if you win maybe you could participate um but yeah we could do we need to start doing more games and stuff like that so yeah those would be fun like on stream with you know the four of you guys or like with the mods or like other members yeah i gotta find a cool idea i gotta find a way to make it happen with the twins that's the real issue but now they have mics and cameras maybe it's more possible but diamond yeah just pull up a neutral party and have them stream the actual game because yeah some of y'all might be cheating during the game all right hey diamond you have a good night man thank you for your patience all right man you too guys all right next villain talk to me bro in general but like it's not the same villain i don't know who you talking to but but wrap that up and start talking to me yes sir how you doing good sir gentlemen you doing all right toby oh good man rapid fire i'm already over five minutes hey it's cool yeah i don't even need all that for real for real uh i just wanted to say this right now and you were i mean probably not you'd be listening to theories all day but i had a theory about like what uh emu's power was right and how it was like the original power of the world or whatever like that i also want to just i want to make this call out that luffy has the same power um like luffy is going to just be able to essentially omen things um in my mind but like it won't be it won't be omen the same way that i'm going to be able to essentially omen things that like emu's doing it it'll be his own thing but the fruit of their power is going to be the exact same thing and it's because they're both gods in my like in my head they both reached the pinnacle of power identified that it's just the only way that they can really be the same person is that they have the same power or he's going to be comparable because he has the same power and it works because of the like the breakdown of just how imaginative emu's power is the whole like just what he's capable of doing at this point with his reference to omen being something that resides in all things the interactions that luffy's devil crew has with the environment that's similar to emu's like it's the same thing you know luffy doing an omen no okay but see it wouldn't necessarily be an omen would it be a halo or would it be no it's like the physical embodiment doesn't have to change the way that luffy uses his power doesn't necessarily have to change it's just going to be more of what it is you know like i don't have i'm not i can't i don't be just um but like just imagining that luffy takes a step back from obviously like everyone's like yo he doesn't know it's a it's not just a rubber fruit it's not just a rubber fruit it's the nika fruit but what is the nika fruit right what is the true origin of that power like why is that devil fruit capable of just doing whatever what was the original nika's true power right and i think that that what created the devil fruit to be a god that's power was only so imaginative could only be like compared to what we're seeing emu do right now which is whatever he wants for real right summoning things out of books you know i'm saying transitioning weapons you know creating tiny accessible things like they utilize bending his arm and it's essentially creating a rubber-like effect like almost immediately when he pulled up like it's it's the same thing you know it's just nika chose to oh i had this little joke that i said when i was spitting this theory to my boys it was that you do you remember like how the skypeans got super excited about like the rubber that usopp had no i don't you don't remember the skypeans like being like yo we don't have this up here and like you know yeah so okay the reason i say that i think that nico was a skypean or like nico was from the moon and came down and that he just embodied rubber because he just had a fascination with what was going on which is why i looked that way that is like a joke low-key but i'm saying it sounds like if he just showed up on earth having been from the moon where they didn't have rubber like the skypeans and was like yo rubber is super dope and just started doing things rubbery i don't know what i'm saying you know what i kind of like the the thought process is because i have a little mini emus from space theory and if they don't have rubber in space it could be a whole nother thing as to why it was beef like emu from space yeah dang when you spin that because now because i got nika from space but i got emu from earth because emu and nika are the emu enjoyable are like generations that grew up on the earth i guess well i guess that's my headcanon obviously let me let me let me cook bro i cook please i don't i don't even know if i believe it but i have it there um hey i'm with it well villain i gotta drop you there man would you ever of course yo for sure oh it's my birthday yesterday by the way yeah i did i did i did say i did i did say i did say happy birthday man i did your brother did not your not larry the other the twins they were the twins happy birthday but only one of the twins was actually present they witnesses bro they don't they don't say happy birthday are you gonna be there for the i'm sorry i know you just said you were kidding are you gonna be there tomorrow for the the thing you're the only one streaming that we streaming it man i gotta figure out i've already got voted out but i got nominated to play for one of the guys so ha ha i'm back okay who you playing for miyagi is miyagi gonna be able to participate going forward or is he just missing this one yeah no no it's just this one i just gotta make sure he doesn't lose obviously but i'm not worried about that okay okay bet see you there bro you're toby all right gentlemen thank you happy belated bro i get out of here i love it all right last caller griff griff what's going on man rapid fire i gotta get out of here nothing much nothing much um i wanted to mention something about blackbeard and the fact that he may not be as cowardly as we think he is he may just be playing well he may just have a certain person that he doesn't want to know his true power um because the only times he's run away are when the world government or marines were involved or present like he ran like he retreated at marine ford he retreated in in front of rayleigh but that was because kobe and a bunch of other marines were there and he retreated from a kainu and the rest of the times he hasn't really retreated he's fought i think that's because he doesn't want it getting back to emu that he's as powerful as what his father was and that's because he saw what happened to rocks like rocks was demonstrating his power like he wasn't afraid to show how powerful he was but then he just got domi reversed he didn't wasn't able to do anything so blackbeard thinks that he shouldn't be showing his power because if he if blackberry did show his power like i i i have to assume emu would know that he's related to to rocks at least to some extent so so if if blackbridge showed his power and emu saw that he would be like oh i need to nip this in the bud before it gets anywhere just like he did with rocks so i think the reason blackbeard hasn't shown anything is is because that he is trying to prevent emu from seeing him and that's also why like the only fights we've really seen other than really law but but we didn't even see that full fight the only fights we've seen of blackbeard have been when marines are around him and that's also why like the only fights we've seen are around and i think otis trying to save blackbeard strength for when i guess for the final war because we still haven't seen it but because i find it hard to believe that blackbeard is going to get some miraculous power up at the end that's just going to propel him to the front i think that would like people would be upset about that it would feel like a mickey because like he's as powerful as he is right now and then he just gets this random power up that pushes him to the top tiers of power i don't i don't see that happening like i feel like that'd be bad story writing so i think blackbeard is at least relative probably to the top tiers right now however like where you want to place him i don't know so the reason the reason why i would push back as to it being bad story writing is because it's how he's gained power throughout the series backstabbing cheating cheating his way to the top you know what i mean so like to me yes he could be very powerful already but him getting another cheat code to getting more powerful is very in line with his character as has been written to this point so i don't know that i would agree that it would be bad writing that he got another power up to get him even farther up the scale here um that to say that he isn't already strong i'm just saying to me that's very in line with what he does how he goes about his business and how he's written he's taking the easy way as it were to the top you know but then that would mean so you know i guess that would mean that whatever power up he would get would have to be some kind of devil fruit related thing because hockey like i don't like he can't really just magically get top tier hockey yeah it would probably be another devil fruit but would that put him on the tiers of the like the devil fruits can make you extremely powerful and i think just blackbeard's devil fruits put him like among the mid to top tier but to become like joy boy and emu level i think you do still need that hockey because joy boy and emu had the top tier devil fruits but they also had the top tier hockey so in order to really compete with them you can't just have a top tier devil fruit yeah i mean double fruit he'd have to have some comparable level of hockey as well but why not both i think he could but i i think he already has like at least relative to that kind of level of hockey whose level he's just not sure about that he's just not sure about that showing it because he's trying to hide his strength until he's really ready to face emu or whoever he's gonna face well this is this goes in line with toby's theory about him being the one to take out emu in the end so hey i i i can see it happening i won't like it though i don't like blackbeard i just narratively i can see the signs of him like because based on what shank said about him and then the way like even the fights we've seen from him he's been very nonchalant in the way he fights like he knows he's not really in much danger yeah okay i just gotta assume there's some more behind it he's gonna show it eventually man but griff i gotta get out of here you have a good night all right have a good one all right yourself you see you seen the link i sent in chat no i didn't it was the the jeopardy stream it was three years ago yeah i was like i know he did jeopardy man i had a feeling um okay i have i wasn't in it though because i had a track in me but i forgot we did have another five dollar super chat from project ice man it says what if emu was the origin or what if emu was the origin of what devil fruit came to be while lily was the goddess of the sea something emu did made her hate devil fruits thus the seekers see that plays into the the god motif that we're starting to get of what the first world might have been like and that's pretty cool um i do like the i like the agency that lily has here i think a lot of people have been like oh she joy boy she was cheating on emu with joy like i i was always like that's a little stupid like that's still that's too goofy her having this type of like impact agency power to do a thing i like that she's already been seemingly um the reason why the pony clips still exist or whatever that emu had said or we're scattered whatever so i like i like lily being a bigger focal point in the story as far as like a competitor or somebody who's strong as well so i can see it goddess of the sea maybe the original poseidon maybe not i don't know it could be cool i think lily's a fisherman fish woman could be why emu hates them so much you know yes they never although was it was beside it not the name of the person that joy boy was talking to or am i i think poseidon could just be like joy boy like it's just a title but it's joy boy that could just be joy boy's actual name based off the last chapter joy boy introduced himself as that you know what i mean and that's why and that's what i said too in spoiler chat and i really messed my head up because i was very convinced that joy boy wasn't his name yo me too i thought it was just his epithet but if it's his name that that changes a little bit about him um he could be lying to emu though that's just maybe what he told me in chat so i'll just introduce himself as mr prince the crocodile so yeah you see that see but all right y'all that's it i hope y'all like the stream if you haven't already please do um we will be back tomorrow with the first installment of the survivor series via stream we're down to 10 survivors for our um what's the prize you get to be a mod for a day should be a lot of fun somehow some way toby is still a competitor i don't know what that means i don't know what it would mean for toby to win but he just gives us gives us winning off to somebody of his choice yeah i guess yeah for a week yeah yeah you get i don't want that yeah it'll be fun um i'm still working on the thumbnail so sorry if i haven't posted the video just yet uh but yeah it should be dope i have to work with chris tonight which is why i have to leave um on setting up the template and the layout and how we're gonna run it so y'all have a good one um like the stream if you haven't again if you want to be a part of these call-in streams going forward become a tiered member on the discord but that's it for me i'll see y'all tomorrow and have a good night