TOPT Call In Stream: Episode 26

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And this is the show where we have you guys come into our Discord voice channel and spit your theories, give us your hottest takes, ask us questions, or rant about really anything One Piece or anything anime-related. Obviously, we rarely get to calls on the main streams in the studio, and we decided to make it so that we would be able to do this for you guys going forward by doing a separate stream dedicated specifically for callers. So this is your show. Ask whatever you want. Theorize however you want. Typically, we try to keep, like, a five-minute time limit on calls because we want to get to everybody. But if you want to participate on these types of call-in streams, become a tiered member on the Discord of Warlord or higher, and you'll be able to have access to the call-in streams. And, yeah, I'm really looking forward to talking to some people. Oh, you're the one saying technical difficulties. Guys, if you hear me well, please let me know. If you're not hearing me well, let me know. I got to make sure that we're sounding pretty good on our end over here. All right. Hit that like button if you haven't already. But, yeah, if you guys want to join in on the call-in stream, become a member. Warlord or higher. And then any $5 or higher Super Chat can net somebody a gifted call-in stream, as well as donations. So I saw Davey D. Oaks just donated 10 gifted in the chat. So thank you, Davey. That should get some people in here. Essentially, every five donations gets people in. So that's awesome, and we really appreciate it. Yeah, if you guys aren't able to be a tiered member on the Discord, join the call-waiting stage and gifted membership. It might get you a chance to spit your theory, ask your question, give your take, or whatever. You know? Like I said, I like the stream. I see a bunch of people in here, so I really appreciate y'all being here with us before we get into calls. I see Davey D. Oaks. Thank you again for the 10 gifted, bro. I see Ren Cole. I see Vandy Augers here. I see Sunnits here. I think Sunnit was the first person in the call. I'll try to get him in here early. I see RonPlaysRivals. I see Elsteria, DJH, just so many of y'all. Please hit that like button. And then we got another 10 gifted memberships from Agent Q. Q, thank you. You were going crazy yesterday, too, man, on the regular stream. Really appreciate that, bro. Yeah. So with these gifted memberships, guys, we have basically enough room for, I think, four people to join in. So please, if you guys want to join us, please do. If you want to join in, go to the Discord. The link's in the description here. And hit that call waiting. Even if you're not a tiered member, you might be able to get yourself on the call. We got another two from Davey D. Oaks. It says, what's good, y'all? Hope we get some fire theories. Me, too, man. And thank you again, Davey. Really appreciate that. Larry said he was going to be here. He even said he was going to try. He did say he had some work he had to do. So maybe he's just stuck doing that and isn't going to be able to jump on camera. But. It is what it is. Did I get your message, NYC? No, but let me look at it now. OK. Yeah, just ping me when you're ready, man. NYC, ping me when you're ready, bro. All right, no rush. All right. But yeah, like the stream, guys. I see how many people are in here. I'm seeing 54 people in here, but only 18 likes. Hit that like button. It does help with the YouTube algorithm. My boy, Young Bull Trent. Welcome to Yonko status, man. Thank you, bro. That's our highest tier of membership. For those of y'all that are getting those memberships, please throw the knock on my fist up. Throw the unique emojis that we have for all of our members on YouTube. It's awesome. All right. I mean, let's get into it, man. Let's get sunny. I know we talked to him last week about some homework. I wonder if he did it. So. Sunny, what's going on, man? Yo. Yo, what's going on, bro? I'm chilling, y'all. How you been? I'm good. Listen, I had an amazing weekend. My Knicks won the championship. As you can see, I'm repping. I'm trying to rep all week. I've been rocking Knicks gear basically the last, like, two weeks. I love the Knicks. I've been a huge Knicks fan since I was a little kid. They have brought me. So much joy and so much sorrow. But recently, a lot of joy, man. So I was able to experience that. Yeah, man, me, Larry and my brother went into the city. We linked up with a couple other anime, like, content creators that we know from New York. It was dope. We had Rob in there. Moonpeace was in there. Corey, Danny Kimmy. Yeah. Brolic Pump was in there. Spencer was there. Smile Bomb was there. My boy, Gabe. It was a great time, man. I couldn't have asked for it. I asked for a better way to ring that in than being with like-minded Knicks fans in the city with my best friend and my brother, who basically put me on this Knicks fandom journey. So I almost cried. I'm pretty sure my brother did tear up a little bit. He's a little older than me, so he saw a little more struggle than I have or a little more heartbreak than I have. So I don't know. That was awesome, man. That was awesome. How are you doing? I'm fine, man. I mean, I live in Holland, so I don't know. I don't know anything about the Knicks or the NBA. So I only saw clips of TikTok, and it went absolutely crazy. So was it actually that busy and that chaotic? Yes, it was. It really was. We ended up leaving the city because it was getting a little too rowdy. I think there was reports that even some people got stabbed. I think somebody got shot. There was like four. There was like four. Yeah, New York don't know how to act sometimes, Sunit. Hopefully, they know how to act over where you live. You said Holland? Yeah, Holland. Yeah. Yeah, hopefully, they know how to celebrate a championship without destroying the city. I will say, shout out to Sanitation. They cleaned everything up pretty well. Nobody died, thankfully, I don't think. Crime dropped also, right? Yeah, listen, listen. Crime, when the Knicks are good and it's the summertime, you're going to do your absolute best. You're going to do your absolute best not to go to jail so you can watch it. It's just true. Okay, okay. Yeah, you got to do your absolute, absolute best not to go to prison, man. But yeah. How's that? All right, let's get into it. My bad. No, no, you're good. So, I don't know if you remember, I had a character analysis from last week. Oh, I remember. Doflamingo. Good, evil, morality, perspective. I remember. Exactly, exactly. But I thought you said we had a time limit, so I can talk about something different or I can continue on with my perspective. It's up to you. I'm giving people five minutes. Yours hasn't started yet because I haven't really given you a chance to talk. But I am giving people five minutes because I do kind of had to go. So, talk to me. Whatever you want to do, but you got five minutes. Okay, okay. Then I'll talk about something else. Let me scroll up in my notes. Hold on a second. And this is kind of, you just got to hear me out, okay? Okay. So, people keep telling Luffy is a hero. But I'm telling you right now, he's not. He's not a hero. And he doesn't even want to be one. And if you think he is, you've, to be honest, been watching One Piece kind of wrong. So, think about it. Luffy literally says, I don't want to be a hero. Why? Because heroes share all the meat. And Luffy, he wants all the meat. And that's not a joke. That's his philosophy. He doesn't fight for justice. He doesn't fight for peace. He fights for what he wants. For example, in his lobbies, it wasn't for justice, but it was for Robert. My marine thought, not to stop the war, but for Ace. Wano, not to liberate the country, but because he bonded with the people there. And that's not heroism. That's personal loyalty. But let me flip it for you: if Luffy existed in our world, breaking into government facilities, declaring war on the world government, freeing criminals, you wouldn't call him a hero, you would call him dangerous. But here's where it gets tricky: he saves people, a lot of people, and countries get freed wherever he goes, oppression gets destroyed. So now the question is: does that make him a hero, or is that just a side effect of his freedom? Because Luffy isn't about good or evil, he represents freedom, pure, uncontrolled freedom. And in a world controlled by people like Imo, that kind of freedom looks like hope, but it can also look like chaos. And Luffy doesn't save the world, he just does whatever he wants, and the side effects of it is that the world changes around him. So my question is, I'm asking you: to be honest, is Luffy a hero, or is he just someone so free that people mistake it for goodness? Um, that's a good question. It comes down to how you view a hero, right, because Luffy clearly does a lot of heroic stuff for his friends, for people he cares about, he's morally just more often than not. Would I classify Luffy as a hero? I'm gonna go no, I wouldn't. I think to be a hero, there is a part of it that needs to be a self-evaluation there. Luffy doesn't take a stand because taking a stand is the right thing to do, he does it because in a given moment, he acts on his whim. You know? I think a hero should be an actual representation of something. So I'd say Luffy's freedom just puts him in spaces to be heroic, but he's not a hero. Okay. No, I don't think he's a hero. He's not like a Superman type of person. No. You know what I mean? Yeah, I'd have to agree very much on that, and it always comes down to the whole aspect of one person's hero is another person's villain. True. Yeah. There's people out there who see Luffy and see him as a villain, they just would. He's doing whatever he wants, he doesn't adhere to any laws. If breaking the law is beneficial to him, he'll do it. Without hesitation. Without hesitation. Without second thought. Impel Down. The people who've been ravaged by the people that were freed in Impel Down would probably never look at Luffy as a hero, but he was just trying to save his brother. So. Yep. I'd say no, man. You can't call him a hero. He might be some people's hero, but he's not a hero. Yeah. Like an objective hero. Yeah, no. Because most people, we see everything from the crew's perspective, but not the world's perspective on how the world reacts to him. So I bet the entire One Piece world, like the civilians or the Marines or whatever, think he's just some bad guy. But he is a good guy. Yeah. He's a good guy. Yeah. He's a good guy. He's a good guy. Yeah. He's a good guy. So do you consider him a hero, Sonny? I mean, to be honest, I wouldn't because he also, I think a hero is someone who also doesn't kill people. And I don't know if we had confirmation if he killed anyone, but if you look at some of his attacks, he puts on people. He's definitely not taking into account whether or not people are dying. But I would disagree. I feel like you can be a hero and kill people. Maybe not in a traditional sense. Like Superman tries not to kill people. Batman tries not to kill people, but you can be a hero and take some people out, man. You know, maybe you're an anti-hero, but like. I mean, you can look at it in the sense of like old warring times. Kingdom's a good reference of a story that shows like those people were considered heroes in the story and they were a hundred percent bodying a lot of people. And it's also true. Kingdom a little different, but they was warring states and murdering entire civilizations of people, man. But I just mean the concept of hero was still there though. True. True. The hero of the country, the hero of the area they're in, Quan, Zhao, so-and-so. Is it worth reading Kingdom or is it better to read it? One thousand percent. A hundred percent. Watch or read. Yeah. Yes. Kingdom is peak. I got to catch up. I'm like 30 chapters back. But Kingdom is one of the best series I've ever read in my life, bro. Like I said, you got to be a little bit more than 30 because you were 30. You were 30 three months ago. No. Was I? Yeah. Because you were 30 when I got to where I was at. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Hold up. That can't be true. That can't be true, bro. Hold on. But the Knicks distracted you. They did, man. You can't expect me to be reading one. One Piece, lucky I'll be caught up. All right. Hold on. Last thing I read was 8:50, I think. Yeah. it's not a it's not 30 chapters is it yeah 850 yeah 850 it's at what 878 roughly 30 my math was just off three months ago is all hey that's fair that's fair that's fair game man that's very good yeah but sun it right appreciate that man you have a cool yeah appreciate y'all too as always all right we did get a super chat that came in while sun it was asking about the hero talk uh five dollars from agent q it says no theories right now gonna leave in an hour i'm trying yoga for the first time tonight i do have a question but i can ask another day if i can't get in hashtag topped on top all right we'll get going you get q in early um sorry for those that are waiting but he seemingly does have something he's got to do in a little bit so we'll get q in now q you there and hello hello hey hey how's it going man not too bad man not too bad i was actually it's funny i was just watching this stream and i i was like oh you're reading my super chat and then yeah it sounds like you you got some stuff going on tonight so i figured i'd get you in earlier before uh you had to wait too long yeah yeah yeah well i mean the thing doesn't start till like a like another hour or so but um i appreciate you getting me in early i love that thank you thank you very much um yeah no no no theory today honestly i you know it's funny i i listen to your podcast quite a lot when i go to the gym or walk my dog and stuff like that right it's like you guys are like my uh my pastime podcast you know uh in a good way i mean that in a very very good way um and i was like it's like i heard you guys talking about how uh how like like you know what actually i forgot that i lost my train of thought there um what i was going to talk about though what uh what i was going to talk about was i saw a podcast i saw a video earlier about how one person was talking about how one like the one the straw hats are kind of like the reimagination of joy boy's crew luffy obviously representing joy boy uh nami representing the connection to the water obviously the sea levels are a big thing in the one piece story uh frankie represents the engineering and uh science uh the science feats that they had back 800 years ago like every straw hat kind of has a representation of something from the void century and my i kind of got me thinking like do you think the question between uh fate and free will like freedom you know do you think luffy's crew unintentionally just by fate happens to represent a lot of the things from that void century or do you think that they just all happen to get together through the free will and the the the thrill of it all joining luffy and and then the fun of adventure that's my question um it's a long long-winded one i'm sorry no you're fine i have to really think about it because i do i do think there is some level of fate that's connecting all these people but also don't like the idea of an actually pre-ordained like destiny for them to follow in the footsteps of some other crew um like how history history repeats itself yeah like i'm i'm down for history repeating itself i don't want it to be like oh well romeo vinsmoke was on the crew therefore now 800 900 years later a vinsmoke child has like i don't want that if that makes sense um i'm fine if like that crew also had some lover boy chef that's cool you know it could just be an emulation of this thing like similar to how like roger's crew has the perverted like third and third in command you know what i mean like i'm fine with that i don't know i don't like the idea that they've been like destined to do this from some like origin or something i don't think i don't think the uh the from what i got in the video that i was watching i don't think they mean like it's like a direct generational correspondence it's more so like uh what they represent you know like uh like zorro represents like the kindness and and the morality the warmth of that void century whereas uh robin represents like the archaeological or archaeological uh expertise uh uh frankie's the science brooke is brooke is like brooke is like the music the the the song uh bix uh bing sake you know like a lot of people have correlated how that song could be a much bigger you know key component to the story you know uh chopper you know if you want to believe he's the forest god you know like for the earth like there's jimbe the water or or things like that like okay the symbolism the representation of that void century or joy boys crew that's more i think what they were going with okay that's that's a little different i i'd say um i'd have to probably watch this video to see the direct correlation between each straw hat member and crewmate to the void century i think it's an interesting thought process um top of my head the ones you said are interesting they're a little loose i would say like i think we need to know more about the void century in general before i can have this kind of thought process myself but in general i like the idea like the idea that they represent a core value or concept that existed back then i think that can be great like maybe there's pillars of this kingdom that each of these straw hats might be highlighting in a different way whether it's the passion of sanji the strength and stoicism of zoro the inquisitive nature of robin the creativity of frankie like if that's the case like that's different but like i'd love to see that that's that's that's something i haven't seen before or even talked about before i definitely agree and like the uh the video wasn't long it was like six minutes right you remember who the content creator was is a canon canon creator or canon something uh i've never seen a video by him before like it just randomly popped up on my feed and i was like oh that's kind of cool probably have some smoke sometimes yeah it's one of those things where like as soon as i close the app like yeah i know i'm never gonna find that video again you know like it's it's gone you said canin or canon canon canon some canon creation or canon theory like with one end i believe you don't got it on uh like your youtube watch history man hold it down no because it was on my phone which is on my old account okay i have a trap phone i'm not gonna lie hey man i got a couple phones hey just just because i don't pay for that phone bill doesn't mean it can't connect to wi-fi you know i got a couple phones man don't worry about it worry about it listen sometimes you need that extra that extra thing well if you find it plug that for me i'd love to i'd love to actually watch it because it does seem like an interesting thought process um it's something that reminds me of something i was talking about with chris today shout out to our boy rono silky chris it's his birthday um happy birthday i was uh and i'll probably do a video on this like actually for the the stream probably by monday but it your thought process here reminded me what i was doing i i noticed that brooks backstory seems to be an amalgamation of all of the straw hats backstories like he's oh he's pulling elements from every single one of them to create brooks ultimate backstory here which is very interesting to me um it's not something i've seen anybody talk about just yet so i know people have correlated him to jimbae on the call industries before and even luffy with the torch ring and stuff but like i feel like it's every single straw hat has some sort of tie in here in a way that we just haven't seen before which i think is great so yeah i can kind of see that forming like a little bit of robin's back story it's all in there man it's all in there it's in there also speaking of jimbae um so i know i know i feel like every time i talk in i call and i talk about fishman but jimbae needs to get conqueror's hockey i'm saying it right now because as far as we've seen in one piece there is no fishman that has conqueror's hockey um jimbae is the only one i could think of that might have it i mean maybe fisher tiger had it maybe but i doubt it what about bro from the revolutionaries you don't think he's got it hack nah hey you know your name can't be hack with conqueror's hockey um i would say the most likely fishman that we'll see that has conqueror's hockey will be somebody from the void century or somebody from the ancient timeline i don't think anybody in the current era has it i don't think anybody in the current era has it i don't think anybody in the current era has it which is unfortunate maybe maybe shiro hoshi but i i don't think so i was like she is technically the strongest fishman that with that we know of well here's a here's a question do you think that uh having the voice of all things correlates to being a conqueror i've always associated out of the observation like advanced that's a good advanced observation i think in my opinion yeah i don't know i can't see it with jim bay i feel like we would have seen something already from him he's what 50 years old maybe but you never know some late bloomers in one piece world man and the only reason why i can't um i can't give a conqueror's hockey to the to the other guy you just mentioned just now uh is he he he hasn't shown any will for it like there's there's been no will out of a strong-willed people in the fisherman island except for jim bay really like there's been a lot of people that have been had had heavy motivation for sure but like i don't know i unless shiro hoshi has it which wouldn't make any sense to me and we can't we can't say that everybody that has the voice of all things has conqueror's hockey because uh momo momo mosuke does not have conqueror's hockey but he definitely has the voice of all things that's fair that's valid yeah i don't i don't see conqueror's hockey for jim bay man i'm sorry i just don't i don't either but i just want a fishman to get you know i wanted to get the like some kind of dub i mean it'd be cool it would be cool yeah i wouldn't be mad if jim bay got conquerors i would be the only way i could see people being mad at it would be if he got it before sanji did and like i don't even know i mean i know i've said sanji is gonna get conqueror's hockey and i would love to see it but like even if he does you know like it's it's not gonna be anywhere near like what zoro luffy has yeah i think i've said in the past on call-ins and on the pot itself that if sanji was to get conqueror's hockey the gap would be where he's not a sky splitter and then like zoro and luffy are but i think the only person sanji would ever be capable of splitting the sky with would probably be zoro i know other people have said that sky splitting doesn't indicate strength or at least in the way that i believe it does but i don't know i feel like that's a way that you can have that gap and still give sanji conqueror's hockey but i feel like oda is gonna try and wait as long as he can within the story to give sanji conqueror's hockey because once he does that it's pretty much a clear determined like it's clearly determined at that point that sanji is number three or possibly number four and i actually wonder sometimes if oda is like conscious of that like he might lose fans by making that clear difference but that's just that's just me that's just me spitballing into trying to spitball into what oda might be thinking who knows larry you're muted if you're talking that's really all i got uh i don't want to take up too much time uh again love to get love you guys love watching you guys uh listening to you guys all the time when i can so thank you for again for doing that make sure uh everyone liked the stream and uh and yeah keep doing what you're doing all right man cute thank you man and enjoy yoga bro yeah i'm i'm pretty excited i have no idea i went to the gym earlier with my with a girl and she was like yo you want to do yoga i'm like i've never done it she's like we're doing yoga so i mean hey you know i'm all about that fit uh well trying to get more fit so you know i'll i'll try it if it works it works so she's trying she's trying to stretch you out flexibility hey listen enjoy that hey you know i'll i'll let you know how it goes all right peace all right larry what's going on man what's up chilling bro chilling it's been a good little call and stream so far we had sun it come in and we had uh q just now a couple donations to get some people on here people uh we've had like 25 donations or gifted membership so if you guys are want to be joining on the the call and stream we have some open slots in the gifted uh so join the call waiting twilight do me a favor and mute up wait what that's toby dog oh is that toby toby yeah i don't know how to i was about to say you ain't ever hearing i saw i saw the the yeah the the green popping up on your screen but larry what's going on how you doing hello man you guys can hear me yeah yeah yeah do i sound good yeah yeah you sound smooth man like yeah my my bad i thought it was for six no you could so i apologize i should have been here earlier it's all right bro you know you busy all right we did get another uh i believe donation come in yeah five gifted from davey d oaks uh that came in so thank you throw the knock on my fist up for davey appreciate that man he'd be going crazy davey you're donating but i don't see you up here bro pull up all right let's get to the next caller i think loose dog was in and out but i'm gonna get him in here because i saw he was there first nerd let me know when you're ready bro what's going on man nothing much nothing much congratulations to you the knicks thank you thank you man thank you appreciate that how y'all doing how y'all doing i'm chilling man i'm tired as all hell i know larry be killing me when i say that on stream but i am tired i ate mad chipotle though it wasn't because of work i just stuffed myself with chipotle bro i went in bro i went in that hard give you the itis thanks well all right all right uh i guess i'll get right into it then so mine is my guess my little title card gantz versus berserk so potential spoilers for either of these two topics i've read six total pages of berserk but by all means oh okay larry can hold it down larry can hold it down bro so basically i guess it's i guess question or a take what was harder for you to read larry is this for you bro if i am the answer on my behalf i would say gantz is harder to read than berserk okay i i mean for me i think it's personally berserk i feel like the question comes down to because both are extremely difficult reads i feel like gantz is just more personal and like a more realistic pain than berserk i guess i think the personal i think maybe realistic's a good word to use but i think the personal has to apply to berserk i feel like the moments in berserk like it's to your characters it's your main character it's your main character it's your main character it's your main characters it's like it hurts it's like oh it's like i guess how i kind of described it is that i maybe took more frequent breaks when watching like or when reading gantz but the i took longer breaks when reading like berserk because like the moments in berserk like i think really stick with you and so the reason i kind of brought up this question is that y'all have talked about gantz and how insane of a read it is but i think if you are i think if you have read i do think you could handle something like gantz because i think gantz is a good read in terms of the psychological thriller aspect so i think i have to disagree and it's only because of this one perspective that i have um for anybody that's like reading the bible or happens to have any type of knowledge about the bible you start to notice that berserk is just sin at its highest forms and it never diverts from sin and it it technically dives into like causality as well which inherently they give a beginning to all the evils that happened within berserk and then there's like the astral plane and other things of that nature so you're just witnessing the black tape that she sweet was watching during yuyu haka show all right with gantz with gantz you're looking at sci-fi but there is no sin within gantz really being uh being like amplified what you're seeing is you're seeing random god challenging thought-provoking chaos where everybody is not only out for themselves but even other species from other planets are technically using humans as like pastry dishes and food and the world government itself is somehow deciding how we should fight against these incoming threats while also taking advantage of the population itself and then it challenges death and and reincarnation and if it's even real it it completely throws out the physics of spirituality and and causality and all like sin itself it just like he went so far as to even depict god on a certain level and then you you you got to hear god speak you know what i'm saying you don't really get that with berserk and i think that's the big difference for me where berserk was crazy there's there's so much evil in berserk but when i saw specific parts of gantz it completely shut me down to the point i was like is this healthy to be reading that's that's just my experience you know the the one i think i quit it twice gantz i had to stop reading it twice and one of the moments was basically humans upside down like pigs with you know uh i don't want to say exactly the detail of what was happening during that scene but sebastian knows and it's one of the most horrific scenes i think i've ever seen in anything i've never seen something as graphic as that so it was bad bro for me that's a completely fair point i guess the written the main reason why i still would say i lean toward berserk being a tougher read is because of like the sci-fi aspects of gantz is that like at the end of the day gantz is so much more silly than berserk we got like this panda that's just hanging out we got like we got like an onion man walking around like all the character designs are so much more interesting than they are scary and we got like this little baby and like the beard man doing this big pose charge with their half their body and like so you just get these more sillier moments in gantz that make it i think an easier read but i do i mean the psychological horror aspect of gantz i do think is much worse than berserk but the moments in berserk i think the reason they stick with me is because of the emotional aspects to it where it's like the things are happening to like your main characters and all this and the people you've been following whereas to gantz like you see these depictions of horror to background characters or characters you haven't seen before and so it's a bit easier to turn the page in my aspect or in my opinion no i agree that's why that's why it happens to be like that's where sin comes into place so crazy like uh the girl for nace i think it's far nace i think her name is how do you pronounce her name guys you know look it up far nacy couldn't she's a girl that learns magic couldn't tell you well anyway she's a girl who learns magic right and she's basically filled with like traumatic lust and her lust is just amplified because she takes pleasure and like she tried to she tries to depict that god himself is placing a burden onto her and when she indulges in sin she kind of gets it out the way so she could be more pure about herself so she'll end up like whipping herself while naked and then she'll like masturbate to like really really evil deeds throughout the world so that's kind of what i mean when it comes to like dive bulging into sin so heavily and also god being like prevalent within berserk so it makes it kind of manageable whereas like gantz there is none of that like i had a - At least a sense of faith in Berserk. There is like a sense of faith. like at the end of the day there is a main cast with a sort of a sense of hope even though like hope is not the main theme obviously of berserk but there is a sort of moving towards a goal where i understand yeah gantz is a lot more hopelessness throughout the series like like gantz was literally there was a guy that was just raping aliens you know what i'm saying like granted it was funny as hell but at the same time it was like what the hell is going on bro he was just doing whatever he wanted even in while he was dying he he was doing what he did best as like that guy so it's like uh i just think that with the aspect of god in berserk it kind of makes it more manageable whereas gantz is just gantz is just pure pure unadulterated unfiltered nastiness of it's not even just humankind it's everybody bro mm-hmm well yeah i guess that's yeah that's about it for me uh larry please read kingdom i don't know what else to tell you i got so many i have so many other kingdom questions this i mean it's i'll say it every time i'm just gonna just let it be known i'll say this i think it's so good you're gonna love it lose yeah we might need it we might need to have somebody check on you bro i'm sorry those are those are three really dark series i didn't always talk about one piece i wanted to switch a little bit those are three really dark series kingdom is a lot more of a hopeful series yeah that's true compared to all three you can't put kingdom in that category as gantz is berserk that's misleading unless conky's on screen you know these are the shows y'all talk about man let it just you know i just just yeah i can't say much i've been trying to put everyone on main abyss which is hey i've heard yeah i've heard that one's a bit different that one's very bad that's like kingdom's a shonen all right that'd be on viz kingdom's not a shonen it's kingdom's a shonen it's it's it's as far as you it's a shonen what do you mean the only the only difference between kingdom and sanan manga is that they don't they don't dive deep into like the death element it's just kind of it's like more ho-hum that people die like they should say like in vinland saga and in berserk they like struggle vagabond too they struggle with the notion of death more than they ever have in kingdom that's why it's not a sanan but it's to me i think you're right it's the one thing that balances those those two the best the shonen element and the sanan element but is what it is is what it is all right i've already taken up my time thank you so much for your time y'all have a nice rest of your day all right have a going loose peace peace hey larry you have mic issues no he's just also live on twitch which i think he's talking on twitch too right am i yeah so yeah that's what i'm doing toby okay i i just looked over and seen you talking but didn't hear anything so i was like everything good bro you be you be cooking me for watching power and that's what y'all are eating yo listen the difference is power power isn't good for real yeah i'll take everything they said over power listen power power was good for two seasons bro let's be real i know you didn't watch i watched every season every episode bro while i was out you got the season two and was like nah i'm good no i enjoyed it after season two but i knew that there was a an identifiable drop off in quality of writing in this in the show i heavily disagree oh my god i heavily disagree bro toby and there's so many i've watched three of the four series and they're all good so well i haven't watched the the power books at all and i probably won't yeah so i've watched three of the books and they're good all so far so all right i'm before we move on toby power snowfall talk to me okay i say snowfall is probably better than one book oh my god but it's hard to compare three books collectively to one show you know i'm saying like that's like 20 something seasons compared to six bro so i'll say i'll say snowfall is better than each individual book oh we all know damn well snowfall is better than power it's better than each individual book but the story as a whole i gotta take the power series as a whole over snowfall it's slacking bro it's just too much put into the story bro it's just too good i feel like snowfall is just better than one book though like there's only one listen there's only one version of power that matters okay that's the original and snowfall is better than the original power okay it is it's better than the original it is not by a lot though don't make it sound clear it's still close laughing again the first two three seasons of power is heat competable you know what i mean with snowfall better snowfall only had one little goofy season man okay yeah i have one one below average season but every other season i love but toby good to have you here man all right thanks for having me sir all right all right all right all right next up uh let's get diamond in here diamond you there propel fitness water with gatorade electrolytes zero sugar and vitamins propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self what propels you propel with gatorade electrolytes endless summer escapes start here travel the worlds of netflix irs inspire by fan favorites like stranger things and squid game brave the upside down face off with the front man play leveled up arcade games shop exclusive merch and enjoy themed food and drinks beat the heat play eat and shop on repeat at netflix house at galleria dallas bring your crew and save get your tickets today at netflix.com slash house hello hello can you guys hear me how's it going man we can hear you yeah it's going good how y'all doing chilling man what's up next one gotta convince toby that snowfall is better than power but you know other than that we good but the next uh celebration as crazy as i've been seeing online as what as wild as i've been seeing like online like y'all y'all are stabbing each other shooting each other hey man i don't know what to tell you man don't let new york we don't know how to act it wasn't some taxi driver like taxi to get destroyed yeah i think uh multiple buses multiple buses on yeah i heard um i heard french montana's gonna take care of that guy man he good he'd be all right oh yeah he's a he's a billionaire so he got it yeah he got he got saudi money man or whatever he at who he married that's that oil money right there who he made i don't know but like a princess or something yeah he'd be all right that guy that guy good he better off now he don't that's true now he don't gotta drive no more french gotta no you're not wrong um i i had a couple questions i mean they're kind of like silly ones okay but um who do you guys think had the biggest jump in power from pre-time skip to post-time skip luffy and zoro um well not together just individually so like luffy zoro kobe or dorian broggy kobe i would say kobe actually like really think about it yeah i gotta really think you're saying at the at the time skip when the time skip had like from where they were to the actual time skip yeah so like anything past the two years who do you think but you're not saying like right now like where they are now you're saying where they were when the time skip ended yeah so like for luffy and zoro's case it'd be like i guess luffy's max would be gear for bound man because he kind of earned snake man gear five conquerors coding during like past it like you know throughout his career and stuff like that but like i'm saying from pre to post like who do you guys think had the biggest jump in power okay so i i guess my question for you is how are you asking me to judge this is it by how much stronger did they get or how many levels like like if luffy was a 50 at the time skip right to start and then after the time skip he's now at 84 you know what i mean but kobe was like a 25 and after the time skip he's a 60 technically you know what i mean yeah that way the way you just described okay okay okay okay if that's the case man I'm going Kobe bro I'm still going Kobe I'm still going Kobe it's Kobe by a long shot bro because remember pre-timeskip is still episode 1 you feel me but he's still saying at the end of the end of pre-timeskip I guess as soon as Marineford is over and everyone gets the 3D2I message I guess from then to like everyone returning to like Sabaody or when you first see them so Kobe would be like catching that missile knocked out by Luffy and was having the visions of the war that Kobe to where we see him now or at least where we see him after the timeskip and catching the missile or whatever he was doing yo low key even if we did like the latest Kobe in pre-timeskip that brother is losing to Bluno like no diff and now he's punching away mountain sized arms with one punch I mean brother there's nobody that has scaled higher than Luffy except Kobe it's ridiculous bro hey man I was like thinking about it because Dorian Broglie were like I guess like weak enough to be affected by like Mr. Three's like schemes and Luffy managed to like knock him out I mean he was injured and the next time we see them they're like blocking shots from a Gorosei member and I was like this is kind of dumb but like it kind of makes sense because they didn't have like I guess the the LBAF like resources or like good weapons so I was just thinking that but um my next question would be do you guys wish each current like faction or crew um hunting for the one piece like had a person that could read the pony glyphs or do you um think that the only feasible way like let's say for the marines specifically Kobe and like S.W.O.R.D. I do you think they're gonna kidnap someone like Robin or potentially Pudding or do you think it's like fair game like even though they don't understand that they're gonna kidnap someone like Robin or potentially Pudding and the pony glyphs like they're still gonna get to him um I actually do think this is a fair question I do think there just are other avenues to get to pony glyph readings now like for a long time it was just Robin right you can only lean on Robin now technically Tsukiyaki can read pony glyphs, Vegapunk can read pony glyphs this third eye tribe person like people can read pony glyphs people theorize that Killer is even a three eyed tribe person because we've never seen his forehead so it's like now that we have all these additional avenues to potentially read the pony glyphs um I'd like to just see them target those other avenues more and maybe we're already seeing that with somebody like Blackbeard going after Pudding um again there's a whole Vegapunk out there or at least multiple Vegapunks out there that could potentially do it um so it's really just a matter of you gathering that additional resource or at least that knowledge that these other people can do it for you like Big Mom had and then going after it so I don't necessarily think like they all need to have one to even the playing field I just need it to be a focal point where it's like hey how are we gonna read them like there needs to be a conversation you can't just say oh I want the one piece and you know you need the pony glyphs but you don't have any way of reading it I've always thought that was dumb that's why I like the pony glyphs I like Big Mom having the Pudding in her back pocket like hey did you wake up that eye yet because this is my avenue I want to see other people with avenues being talked about highlighted you know here now I don't know how anybody would ever find out about Sukiyaki that's kind of that's probably not happening but and maybe obviously Robin can always just be the focal point here but Pudding again already in play a Vegapunk is out there could potentially be in play and um I'm trying to think if there's any other avenues that could potentially be in play I'm trying to think if there's any other avenues oh yeah and other potential random three-eyed tribe people so I'll pass it to Larry if he has anything but I think that's my view I don't like that it was all solely Robin for so long you know yeah I like the I like how little readers there are it kind of like puts out a race for other people that are pirates and there's this massive pirate age you know like if the pirate age didn't exist then the readers probably wouldn't be able to read it probably wouldn't be needed because nobody would be searching for the one piece but now that we know that this is needed and there's so little of them it makes it like readers are like pony glyphs in a way if that makes sense also I would really love if there was like a devil fruit that was introduced where this person could not only read write or learn any language but they could also just like figure out past languages I don't know how Oda hasn't done that yet especially when he's so deep into like cultures mixing together and learning about new cultures so like a translator like devil fruit yeah okay like an inscribe a transcriber devil fruit like a language language fruit something like that yeah I feel like that would be so hard because not only that there would always be someone that's going to have that devil fruit so we never run out of readers it just makes them that much more important you know moving forward so I think that would be really cool okay and then I guess my last question this would be would you rather would you rather the pony glyphs be like be able to be read from the readers viewpoint but like obviously not in English or Japanese maybe like another language that you could search upon your own or would you rather hockey always be shown to no more invisible hockey like with big mom potentially kid or like maybe like more indications of hockey being used because I guess like the biggest hockey like questions we have is is like shanks is wifi killer hockey like it would is that a combination of like conquers and observation or is like joy boys like conquers hockey blast is it like he did is it just conquers hockey or did he put like armament in it too so like I guess which one would you rather be like clear like no second guessing interpretations of hockey being shown in the manga and in the show or the pony glyphs being able to be read by us the viewers because um I don't know if you guys played pokemon but like in the third generation to unlock the the reggie's like reggie eyes reggie rock reggie steel you kind of had they they added like a thing in the games it's like braille so if you like read the thing you could understand a little bit of braille and then that could help you like get them so it got me thinking like what if there was like a like a how to like read pony glyph writings from oda and like a sbs or like a natural manga like book so I feel like that could be cool but I'm one trillion percent going with hockey indicators like without a without a doubt like that could be a dope thing that you're saying as a secondary piece into the series but if we had absolutely clear this this color coordinates to this hockey usage this this person's using this type of hockey in this attack we would end a lot of debating or at least we'd have a much clearer understanding of what's happening in every single instance so that we can truly gauge how strong some people are and how weak some people are so a lot of discourse on power around one piece and power scaling is because a lot of it is up to your own interpretation of what's happening on the panel if we had very clear hockey indicators like this like you're suggesting maybe it would take away from some of the nuance of the show and some of the like intrigue that people have in the show but it would just save us so much time and annoying conversations but you don't think that's like the fun part about like power scaling one piece? it can't like there's so much nuance it can be bro but more often than not it's just annoying I'll be honest with you bro for me anyway maybe it's because I'm too deep in the community and too involved or whatever but if we just had very clear indicators I'd be I'd be happier I'd say what about you Larry? I can't really decide this is a very hard subject for me there's a degree to which I agree with Sebastian one thousand percent but it does make me super interested in hockey as where I wouldn't be as interested in hockey if it was very simple like especially when it's shown it adds flavor to this plate of mine when it comes to like fights. Like I can decide whether I want him manipulate the conversation one way or the other based on the lack of knowledge for both of us like that's exciting to me because now we got to go to like certain points in the manga to prove what i'm saying so not only does it challenge the person that's i'm debating but it challenges me to be more efficient with my arguments um and to pull my agendas to either or side right that's what makes power scaling so cool but if i was to know and be able to read what the pony glyph means or what whatever pony glyph we're being introduced to says and eventually robin's gonna tell us like what it is i don't know like this is really hard to pick because it's kind of like i'm getting two evils because i don't want to know you know i don't want to know what the pony glyph means what the history is until the start or what if i tweak the question into you could read the regular pony glyphs like you're able to understand them but the real pony glyphs is only something we could get revealed by from like people that actually understand so like robin third-eyed people blackbeard maybe like so just a basic pony glyphs but did that answer still change or would it be the same well aren't there still nine real ponies like are we are we getting the rios too because there's the there's regular pony glyphs and there's a real pony glyphs and then there's a road pony glyphs are we getting everything but the roads uh can you uh remind me what the real pony glyphs would be or like what arc they were introducing i want to say alabasta but yeah i think the first one was in alabasa that was the first time we learned and it wasn't the one that zoro and chopper found because that one's actually filler like like for example right like um so a lot of people skipped past robin explaining what the pony glyphs said uh in the alabasta catacombs she was basically i don't know if she was saying this is true or not but she was saying there was a country that existed before alabasta alabasta specific year took over alabasta uh whoever was previous before that and then as that went forward alabasta linked up with other affiliated nations such as like the world government and then yada yada and she kept speaking and crocodile like cuts her off and was like yo what about the ancient weapon that was being talked about you're lying or whatever yeah so it's like if i was able to read information like that and only that then i would want to learn about the pony glyphs like i would be i would want to read them maybe like robin can see maybe there's like a side of the pony glyph since there's like what six sides five sides of the pony glyph that we could see if we were able to not read one side that contained information that robin should only know then i'd be okay with that because that way i could get history that's not too important but it just makes the world expand even more like you know like i just learned more history about what what happened during the kingdom's reign or how they started interesting question though diamond came on you was on your game today bro yeah i know y'all are you specifically told me for just wanting to you know talk to y'all you know yeah life is good so i got no trauma to dump on y'all yeah i love hearing that yeah get you some trauma though but uh yeah i mean i might who knows go outside get you some trauma tonight bro go through i don't know about all that go through something traumatic tonight and then i gotta wait a week just for you to cancel the calling stream bro you can't do that i'm not canceling next week i made sure i was gonna be back from my little mini vacation to be back for monday and tuesday next week and i'm probably doing a ddt next week it's all up okay okay i just thought of a random like dumb question like did you not do call-in streams as like a tradition for the next win you know like some people don't watch your jerseys or whatever now i mean it worked i think that one the one the one stream you did i think that's when the first loss that was the only one yeah i mean like think about it bro hey man you got you on to something maybe next summer i'll test it out again yeah i mean diamond have a good night man all right man you guys too all right listen if it works it works bro all right i'm not superstitious but i'm a little stitious you know we got another five from pastor c it says which attack was worse kid taking shanks's divine departure or sanji taking emu's kick um uh i'm gonna go kid you better go kid okay that was that was pretty bad bro that's pretty bad yeah you were expecting a lot worse that was pretty bad yeah sanji well above his weight class i mean so was kid um but it's emu bro i'm gonna go kid i'm gonna go kid i'm gonna go kid i'm gonna go kid it's like top of the world you're out here yeah i was gonna say kid went for that like he he pulled up for that emu pulled up on sanji sanji was just chilling he thought the day the day was done so what's going on um yeah i'm gonna go kid uh another eight months at knock on status from our boy king alcazar it says i know y'all beyond happy about the knicks beyond happy man i i haven't smiled this much in probably my entire life bro i'm not gonna lie i've been so happy stuff has gone down at work i'm like i don't care the next one bro nah you were that happy when you got your girl bro i seen you you know what i'm saying i seen you bro listen she know what it is she know what it is bro she well she made a joke the other day hopefully i can make you this happy one day she know what it is bro all right shout out to the knicks shout out to jalen brunson another five from wise life gaming if cross guild and the blackberry pirates had to choose one faction to to fight straight up which ones would each of them choose hashtag who want the smoke hashtag don't run hashtag let the boy watch yo twilight mute up for me real quick you having some sort of static yeah thank you thank you um i don't know cross guild and the blackberry pirates had to choose one faction to fight straight up um cross guild not choosing to fight nobody's straight up right now bro they don't got the hitters not right now i guess they're choosing to fight the marines but is that straight up is putting bounties on marines straight up fighting i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't think so um and the blackbeard pirates uh there's not enough in it for them to fight cross guild even though that's probably the easiest fight for them in terms of other factions to fight but there's no devil fruits there that they'll value um um , i really don't know revs i don't know blair who you got bro i'm i'm struggling hey what about revs it's so funny man it's the cross guild or the blackberry pirates had to choose a uh faction to fight straight up which one do you see them choosing man they know better than to mess with big dragon again he's gonna get away with it twice mm-hmm mm-hmm ain't no two times a charm around here man better he better go he better go pick on buggy ain't nothing to gain from that uh he can make him join him he could punk him he'd be like yo you could come under me and you got me hot you know he benefit from that some something like that better than messing with dragon he ain't going down mm-hmm he knew to pull up when they was vulnerable they had other plans bro you know how you say like black bear be running away from people because he got other plans that was dragon bro but right now he in war mode taking a full right-hand man going in their territory you know we we ready now we ready larry who you got man who you who you think they would pick i think the cross guild gets in trouble with the uh. pirates again one because he's trying to obtain an ancient weapon so that means he's either going to wano or fishman island and those are both territories for uh luffy it's valid i'll take that i'll take that nobody said revs though toby so they safe let's go come on now everybody knows bro everybody you got big sabo bro you got big sabo and big dragon big zaza demon bro uh we got another two from jay darude it says both those answers do take some mystery away yeah diamond kind of sophie's choice larry a little bit there man he was really trying to figure it out but i'm fine taking away the hockey mysteries man it's been it's been 10 years i'm fine with the hockey mysteries going away it's been 10 plus years it's been it's been it's been 16 years okay i'm fine with the hockey mysteries being being gone i kind of i kind of grew up both y'all like i i like how larry was thinking but i kind of am at the point where you're at where it's like i probably just want to like more clear indications on what we're looking at when we're reading we don't gotta like dance and go back 100 chapters you know let me know bro start finding where you at start saying conquerors in front of the attack name if need be bro i don't care yeah but um let's get uh 3d 2i in here 3d you there yeah yeah what's going on bro oh let me mute this stream hold on okay i'm doing good uh how about yourself bro i mean you got a girl now the next just one like i'm up man i told her the other day i'm in my prime i told her that i told her that damn bro yeah i mean you're doing good um anyway let me get into what i was uh gonna say here okay so i got like three matchups okay for y'all all right for the first one it's gonna be on on dress roses uh tournament stage that's where it's gonna be located so there is a body of water around okay yeah so i don't know if it'll really matter too much but okay so the first one is cavendish versus candel i'm going my boy cavi bro i'm going cavendish yeah that's my kind of dish even with the uh apparently she taught bro his moves i mean i probably okay well i get it you got cavendish over brooke no i think there's a debate to be had i probably don't though no i mean i think the mute brooke's music could affect him but that's just me are we counting cavendish as a second personality when we do that of course yeah of course yeah okay it's close it's definitely close i got booked though it's my guy all right it looks like we all went cavendish so what's the second matchup all right carrot versus who's who full moon i'm gonna say too long oh yeah i'll give her so long why not so long she she got it so without so long she don't that's so serious carrot versus who who's who who's who who's who okay we got one for who's who longer or irrelevant yeah it's irrelevant okay listen no there's a valid that's listen listen it's valid it's valid carrot was embodied by perospero bro seven is prime yeah seven is prime guys anyway um jack versus smoker and tashiki propel fitness water with gatorade electrolytes zero sugar and vitamins propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self what propels you propel with gatorade electrolytes endless summer escapes start here travel the worlds of netflix irl inspired by fan favorites like stranger things and squid game brave the upside down face off with the front man play leveled up arcade games shop exclusive merch and enjoy themed food and drinks beat the heat play eat and shop on repeat at netflix house at galleria dallas bring your crew and save get your tickets today at netflix.com slash house who's the first person jack jack um the the plague yeah oh man jack i'm trying to think if the if the jute would even really matter like i feel like jack would be like i i can't use my devil fruit and he's still swinging you know and like smoker just doesn't have any yeah he doesn't have enough power to put him down so i'm gonna go i'm gonna go jack yeah i'm gonna yeah i'm gonna jack and that's being kind maybe smoker's got a power-up man yeah maybe he's got a power-up man yeah maybe he's got a power-up man he's still in the story i'll go jack i think you have to go jack what what if you had that um that that guy that puts the gloop everywhere i forgot his name the gloop the guy with like the long hat oh um prince gross prince yeah yeah yeah what if like him instead of smoker him as well like the three of them yeah three of them it doesn't make any difference no difference yeah i feel like jack was fighting too long minx bro like like the the best possible suit yeah they're like kings the kings of each represent like he's fighting for days on end bro what what does prince gross and smoker and tashiki got for him right okay hold on prince ghost can can trap jack and then and then he gets stabbed and then what happened who prince yeah no he doesn't get you know he doesn't get stabbed wait no uh smoker he uses um his staff listen the staff will be helpful they gotta kill jack though well i guess in this scenario they have a win condition where it's using the jute and then trapping jack once the jute is used but like i don't know man jack can still use yeah i guess he can't use hockey in that situation the 3v1 maybe bro i'll give him that maybe they gotta land the jute first though and then the the the the what even is that the clay is it clay it's not clay is it prince gross's thing what is that i don't remember what it is i don't know it's just like it's like golems or something i don't remember what it is yeah i don't know either way jack probably takes it bro yeah he a pretty heavy hitter unfortunately i thought my boy smoker would have had some some off to him you got him boxing against people above his weight class man yeah um yeah i mean shoot that's that's really all i got um i guess you know a random theory random theory let me another dragon theory maybe what maybe dragon could have been the one who put the mist over asperia because he has the weather fruit abilities and he still thought the celestial dragons were there and he was trying to kill him off if that's the case dragon trash bro like what are we doing wait what's going on bro what did you hear that tell me you don't tell me you're probably not even caught up man i just read the chapter yesterday that's what you're talking about oh yeah he said yeah i'm not dragon caused the smog above asperia and inadvertently killed them peoples no i don't know about all that wait isn't he a dragon thing he loves dragon you're not helping bro you just say he created this smog and didn't take out any celestial dragons and accidentally killed what's her face wait wait wait asperia was about like 70 years ago wasn't it right that's the other thing yeah i don't think dragon was even born yet yeah what are you doing man y'all be trying to put dragon in anything rob put him in you got him yo rob put dragon on the top of elbaf's uh heaven realm the other day bro what was that wait what i mean he's a saba fan it was so crazy bro y'all just put dragon the hell of a drug dude don't be doing nothing it's all right it's okay we'll just wait on it bro i know we waiting bro we waiting bro we waiting we've been waiting oh it was we're gonna wait till the end of the story when just mysteriously forgets about him nah bro we thought it was gonna be get a dragon but all the pump faked us that's not our fault all right it's y'all fault for thinking it in the first place for real i want to be creative though bro like so you see you see my my dragon theory bro no was it recent yeah i see it all right i put a theory out that said i think dragon took over old marine ford to create it as the revolutionary army's new base of operations i'm gonna have to go watch that i like the sound of that you like that okay because i i gotta come up with things for dragon to do because he don't just do them you know what i'm saying we saw what happened with tanks man when he finally popped out through and really did a move he did one move with two because he used feature type but one move a green born kid and man it was over so what you think will happen with dragon if it's an even longer wait you think you think dragon does uh 0.5 moves you think it'll be more impressive if he does half a movie talk about this guy bro it's gonna be more impressive than what change did oh wow okay i'm calling it let's hope man all right 3d i'm gonna drop you bro yeah man yeah have a good one larry have a good one you too uh seb while you got people here how many people are in the chat right now in the chat oh 103 yeah all right so uh you remember i told everybody we were gonna do a shirt giveaway um well i just got the shirt oh it's a vintage uh washed black shirt it's a large and we're me and the boys are gonna sign the shirt and then we're gonna send it to you uh whoever wins so not this stream but the upcoming podcast stream for next episode uh this monday coming we're gonna sign it with like a white marker uh that way it could stay and then you guys can have it as like a giveaway because this will be our first giveaway so uh i got the shirt it's a really nice shirt looks great too it's from our shop uh our merch shop so come this monday and we're gonna pick like a random person we'll probably like have marv pick somebody and then we'll find out your address and stuff like that and then send it to you what if i want the shirt what if you want the shirt yeah i was gonna say our mods in this our mods you're not gonna pick yourself everybody's in this so i can win no you can't win no you can't win anything i can't why can't i win it then because you're you're not you're we don't like giving back man it's crazy listen it's crazy the trauma shows up the trauma i don't like i want the shirt bro yeah so you guys have to show up uh this monday show up this monday and then uh i don't know when we're gonna announce it but we're gonna like sign it on camera too and then uh that way you guys know like it's actually signed by us do you do you want it to be like a uh a raffle like we enter a bunch of people's names and then like do a spin wheel or something like what do you want to do oh yeah well maybe we could do it like in we could do like a random person like how it picks random people to bring up to the call yeah or we or what we can do um is do a spin wheel with people like all the names or whatever gotta be like a there gotta be some sort of limiter i guess because we could have like a thousand people on that and i'm not typing a thousand names and then we just show it huh just for the yako yeah yeah you can make use of that i don't know if larry was trying to do that but like that'll that'll make it easier for me do kind of sound like it's a that'll make it easier for me yeah but oh i just feel like we could do a randomizer spin wheel whatever um and then uh yeah we can do that we'll have marv do it okay okay all right yeah but everybody's gonna be able to do it so you guys don't have to worry about that mods included all that stuff and then we're gonna do like more so than not like i'm thinking about doing this multiple times in a month so i just have to make sure they're willing to send me shirts you know i'm saying that's fine that's fine and then we did get another two dollars australian from josh pentland it says what if blackberry went after luffy for frankie for pluton uh he'd have to have knowledge of that right that frankie knows about the pluton blueprints like i don't know where he would get that knowledge yeah but you know blackberry just be knowing stuff so that's so specific though yeah yeah never know though i doubt it i doubt it they said lino gonna write john hancock write his name across the whole back i have to make sure the twins don't put their whole name that's the thing their middle name and you're like what are you doing full-ass signature i think i'll be like whoa listen my signature is goofy bro i can't lie all right let's get davey d oaks in here davey you there you hey how's it going do you want me hear me yes sir what's going on man oh not much you called me out so i had to come up in the in the voice chat i was joking no you called me out hope you're having a good day man yeah i hope you are too i know you set that bus on fire and do your work though it wasn't me bro it wasn't me it wasn't me trust me all right so i've got one question and then one last question and then we're gonna go to the next question i have a little mini theory that i might need help fleshing out i don't know how to continue without more from the story but all right a little 2v2 caesar clown with crocodile versus smoker and lucci you said smoker wait run that back 2v2 who caesar clown and uh crocodile versus smoker and lucci smoker and lucci smoker and lucci i agree though y'all would be shocked by what they said in the discord chat i'm a huge crocodile guy bro they be gassing my boy bro they be wild they were saying crocodile by himself they were saying a caesar clown bro they be gassing my boy bro they be wild by himself like caesar over lucci yeah by himself that's crazy that's crazy yeah that was said that's insane i'm telling you right now you gotta you gotta put smoker on the other team so it's it's lucci versus thumb bro i'm serious i believe i believe in the crocodile power creep right i believe he he can fight lucci he's gonna lose but i think i believe you can fight him now he's gonna lose but i believe you can fight him now they were saying uh crocodile just dehydrates both of them they were saying um caesar clown just takes the oxygen out of the room for both of them that's such a come on guys yo maybe starboard farming bro you're trying to get the most laughs that's gotta do what it is no yeah i i agree because i've seen some wild things no they were standing on it you can go they were legit standing ten toes down on that shit oh sorry sorry oh no sorry still not as bad as the green bulls stronger than end of series alufi cake i heard that somebody tried standing on disgusting oh what davy you said you had two questions uh one question one main theory no question yeah so the fog on the spiria okay i don't think that's a random coincidence i think that was intentional because that was about the time that they were supposed to be gathering up the money for the um what is it called heavenly tribute when the fog came about and people started getting sick the weapon or the um the musical instruments also started decaying which was their major source of income or revenue which was their major source of income or revenue was exporting musical instruments so when we see that shadow that looks like marcus mars's uh demon form whatever you want to call it at the very last chapter and a holy night there why would the holy why would the world government have a holy night and a celestial or a gorosei member show up to get the the heavenly tribute that's like that would be unheard of there was other countries that didn't pay their heavenly tribute that you know they had some things happen to them but they didn't have the whole country destroyed marcus mars's um demon form is a yokai hang on i have this pulled up it's a yokai japanese demon it's sumare and yeah it's sumare and he is known for bringing about plagues or famine now this is still a plague or a famine to a country that produces musical instruments whenever you take away their ability to create musical instruments it's not directly affecting crops but it's affecting their ability to pay certain things i can't figure out how to connect it but i really think that music is bigger than we think in one piece and that emu wanted that island specifically taken out because of their musical influence Brooke singing Bink's Sake on the island, and then other songs and stuff, but I think songs have a bigger importance in one piece, and Bink's Sake will end up being more important than we know right now. Do y'all kind of fuck with that? Language, Dave! Sorry, do y'all mess with that, or do y'all think it has nothing to do with the music, and it's just a coincidence that a Gorosei and a Holy Knight popped up? Well, we don't know he's a Holy Knight, I guess, but a Gorosei member and someone important showing up into the throne room. I like the idea of music being more important, but I don't think it has nothing to do with it. Like, I think, Brooke, you said music was kind of important, and it was kind of dying around that time, too, so I don't know if the influence is even that strong. Was music dying because they were silencing it? I mean, that's not how I received it when I was reading it, but, I mean, is there an indicator for that? What is the song that Brooke's singing from a different country, and then they talk about another country being destroyed? They don't name the two countries specifically, but Brooke talks about this weird, or he makes, he sings a song in a weird dialect, and sure, he talks about it, and then he says, that's from blah, blah, blah. I can't remember exactly where. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He says it's from Kamigata. And they got wiped out? Yeah, they got wiped out. So I think that there is some type of connection, because if there was a country nearby that was wiped out, and it happened to be this country, Kamigata, then I mean, I don't know. And that means they also specialize in some type of music. And then we also have the point out from NYC Anime Nerd from Chapter 501, where it was that guy who specialized in musical instruments and music itself. Oh, dude. And he was from Toroa Kingdom, and that kingdom was also in the West Blue. So if they were looking to take out musical islands, the question is why? Why would they do something like that? What is the connection here? And maybe the connection is to Joy Boy. Maybe it's suppressing music overall, not to create another beat that can combat maybe Emu's music, because we know Emu, when he arrived, the houses were singing, and he had his own music happening. So maybe there's something like Oda's trying to tell us with sound itself and resonating with soul or anything that pertains to Brooke as well, which is why he's the one that's telling this story from the past. There definitely could be a connection, bro. And if there's anything that points to us actually having something of significance to music, it's Oda's experiment with Red Film. You know, Film Red. Oh, yeah. Uta. Me and a friend talked about maybe they were doing some top musical type stuff, but I don't know that it's that extreme. It could be, bro. It could be. I don't know. We don't know. I think that, you know what it is? I always thought that there was like many ancient weapons within one piece. I would think like Zunisha is like a mini weapon, you know? Like there's just a couple things, I think, in the world that are just mini weapons. And I think that maybe something with music probably is one of them as well. It's not an ancient weapon where it's like undeniably unbeatable. But maybe it is something of that causes such destruction that you have to somehow be like, all right, we, like it could be anything now, you know? It's like playing Elden Ring. You have all these mini bosses and then you actually have the real bosses. It's just so weird that they would target Asperia, a seemingly nothing country that only has music, when music has become more and more important, like the drums of liberation, like you said, with Emu, with the dun-dun-dun-dun, whenever he's coming out and the trees in the buildings are talking. Asperia might have been the forefront country for all these other countries, you know? Like they could have been the record label. Meanwhile, everybody else is like the artist. So I could imagine like within the West Blue, there was many kingdoms, like an archipelago of them. And Asperia happened to be the forefront. Like Japan happens to be the main, you know, country, but then they have like a whole bunch of other islands that surrounds them that are also Japanese. Yeah. So I could have pictured it's like something like that. I could too. And the fact that the other islands had their own songs and dialects would further add to that, you know, that it transformed a little bit, but they were still kind of doing the same thing. I just want to see an island where like people are crumping. It does make you think though, is Brooke getting all these other songs from his position as a battle convoy? Like is he traveling to these other nations and picking up their music? Probably. Seemingly Asperia exports more musical instruments than anybody. So it would make sense that he would lead the, export convoy. The battle convoy would also kind of help the exports, make sure that they don't get anything stolen. Yeah. I'm going to keep it a buck. I think I just came out with the answer. Talk to us. What is it? I think the reason the world government has been trying to look for musical countries is the same way they were looking for people with pony glyphs and trying to suppress information. So it doesn't learn about the ancient history. So I think they were going from island to island searching for people that were capable of singing Bink Sake. I get what you're saying. What's a better medium than a pony glyph is a song because it spreads from person to person. Right. So they probably ran into Asperia thinking like it came from there, but then it probably moved over to Koroa kingdom. Yeah. And Koroa kingdom is actually the place where the Rombar pirates were found, where Brooke probably goes. And all of a sudden he learns Bink Sake. And that's where like the Bink Sake song ends up spreading out to the entire world. So they basically ran into the wrong place. Yeah. I hadn't tried connecting islands to that just yet. But I like that a lot. I like the idea. I like the idea of them targeting Asperia because they're trying to suppress the sound of music as corny as that is. But like you were just talking about, you can spread a song. They're already, look at Gunko right now in the current timeline. She still resonates with Brooke's music even now. Yeah. Like it feeds something into her soul. Like I can see them having like, hey, we got to stuff that out. This kingdom is like getting too potentially powerful if they're exporting music and generating. Music and creating this like sound. We don't want the drums of liberation coming back. We got to erase all music based kingdoms. So. Yeah. But I just wanted to know your thoughts on that. No, it's an interesting one, David. I've been thinking about it. That's an interesting one. Yeah. We'll drop you. Yeah. We'll drop you there, but have a good one. And I appreciate all the donations that you sent in today, man. Thank you so much. Yeah. Thank you, David. I appreciate it. Have a good night. All right. You too. Brother. All right. We did get a couple more super chats. Larry, do me a favor. Can you. have access to the super chats or not i gotta go to the bathroom yeah i do i bet it's only two of them i gotta go right yeah all right uh jada rude thank you jay with the two says lionel gonna write in invisible ink because he's not gonna be there to write it lionel will be there i i guarantee you lionel's probably not gonna miss the next three episodes uh of the month especially if it's gonna to be our last three pods in person for a long time uh jade arud again with another five says in real life slaves made songs to pass messages oh i like that yeah i gotta make me come up with like a little little theory theory like connect things together i kind of like this that idea was crazy you know oda too he'll put something in the beginning of like one piece and then it just turns out later like it's something super important oh a hundred percent and we gotta look at i mean look at what he did with uh shanks's arm or he tried something because fun fact actually well sebs using the bathroom do you know the uh reason why shanks is using the bathroom shanks initially lost his arm in uh the first episode who me yeah yeah it's to get rid of the the sign the the no no no no no i meant back in the like back when it came oh back in the day yeah we had no idea bro no oda did come out if our it was either oda himself or one of his editors came out and said that the reason oda initially did that was because like his publisher thought that the story was going to be like too childish and he wanted oda to add stakes to it so that's why he did the whole shanks loses his arm but then yeah he turned around he turned around and tied it all back to make it an eventful like he gave it meaning later on all right that's just that's just skill on it's what i missed welcome back shanks is on larry you read all three super chats yeah i read all two well yeah i was gonna say davey just sent another one in okay yeah it says appreciate the love from the chat and y'all appreciate you man yeah thank you dave i like that jada rude one though the the correlation to real life slaves making slave songs and past messages i like that yeah it's all right next up let's get uh i want to say it was doc that was next yeah let's get doc in here doc you there propel fitness water with gatorade electrolytes zero sugar and vitamins propel hydrates better than water to help you get the most out of your workout and get back to your best self what propels you propel with gatorade electrolytes endless summer escapes start here travel the worlds of netflix irl inspired by fan favorites like stranger things and squid game brave the upside down face off with the front man play leveled up arcade games shop exclusive merch and enjoy themed food and drinks beat the heat play eat and shop on repeat at netflix house at galleria dallas bring your crew and save get your tickets today at netflix.com slash house talk on once there we go how's it going man i'm sorry i didn't i i didn't hear i didn't hear anything as far as uh hello so i was like oh man am i waiting for uh no you're good you're good talk to us all right so i don't have anything real spicy for y'all today but i had two things that were kind of on my mind uh seb you're probably the one person that i've ever met in this community like of all of one piece who has such a love when it comes to the implications of the story and all the build-up and all the teasing i because i know you guys talked about this previously you guys have an entire clip about it actually where you guys go back and forth on it but it's been like a year maybe a year and a half since that video went up and i really wanted to know if you guys have any new feelings on what's the future for the big mom pirates hmm. new thoughts to be honest i haven't thought much about the big ball pirates in recent times any new thoughts or like you still stand by your statement seb because you i think you were the one who was pushing that uh category is going to go to cross kill yeah i saw i believe my my take was that it was possible i could see him sacrificing a little bit of pride to work to get his sister back because right now she's the one who's going to be the one who's going to be the one who's going she's in the hands of black beard um my stance hasn't changed so i guess i'll say that it hasn't changed on that whether or not that is what happens who knows uh as far as like the story itself i kind of like blend two lines of thinking into one where it's like cross kill needs more members katakuri needs to save his sister this could be a way to solve both of those problems in one um a lot of my cross guild a lot of my cross guild like adding bodies stuff leads into that same line of thinking like it has to be mutually beneficial like a mutually beneficial um agreement so temporary alliance join cross guild bunny year um save your sister uh similar to some other people i mentioned like judge and the neo-mads joining cross guild so they can have like a the uh the banner of a yanko you know to kind of do the things that they were trying to do before i don't know i know larry at the intimately disagreed with the notion that cat would do that or be willing to do that um i don't know if his stance has changed or not probably not no i just i don't know where the big mom pirates go bro i really don't i assume that big mom's still alive especially what happened after wano um maybe maybe we should just accept that that's the end of the big mom pirates i think i think that's where i'm at right now i think they're over over you think they're over yeah i think they keep their little territories and stuff like that but overall i could see them dissipating the same way like the white bear pirates dissipated afterwards and we didn't really you know once you lose the captain it's if nobody takes the position and becomes the captain then it's just gonna you know dissipate um happen with the roger pirates right happen with uh white bear pirates happen with the kaido pirates you know the beast pirates so i don't i don't think that they're going to be able to do that i don't think that they're going to make a comeback i think that they you know put in is going to have to be the chess piece that she's going to be she's probably going to be used and then she's going to disappear after and we're never going to get like a conclusion to her cat and the rest of the gang but if big mom makes a comeback and she's like coming back like shredder where she's like half dead um i could see them actually making a play but that's about it because i was someone pointed this out to me and i really wanted to know y'all i didn't because i haven't looked it up enough to see how much context there is but there was like please correct me if i'm wrong when the big mom pirates initially pulled up to wano there was more than just there was more than just you know big mom there was they had their ship that just kept getting knocked off the falls right yeah they they had i want to say like i want to say half because it's a whole family right but they had a decent amount of people on there like i don't know if snack was on there but or oven or anything but i think smoothie was there if i remember correctly um i do believe smoothie was there yeah i think she was the sweet commander soon yeah i think it's chapter 930 you get to see everybody 10 30 yeah i didn't i i realized did we get to see everybody 10 30 yeah i didn't i i realized did we get to see everybody 10 30 yeah i didn't i i realized did we get to see everybody 10 30 yeah i never really know what happened to them did they make it back to whole cake island i mean i don't think they're dead right they have some devil i don't necessarily think they're dead but no chapter 930 they had dior they had the chick that went with um that guy to zunisha to zo uh big mom obviously smoothie was there we have pedro that was there daifuku was there obviously smoothie was there we have pedro that was there and that was kind of it we know that and that was kind of it we know that and that was kind of it we know that uh katakuri is back home we know that oven uh katakuri is back home we know that oven uh katakuri is back home we know that oven was back home was back home was back home we don't know if snack came with them at we don't know if snack came with them at we don't know if snack came with them at all he's there in the anime he's there in the anime yeah he's like next to daifuku but cracker was back home too so basically two of her strongest generals were back home but i think it was said after uh i gotta find the chapter number but when when did what chapter did big mom pirates leave one i think it was chapter 1035 that's what i'm hearing that's when they left wano but they left wano without being caught this was the same chapter that zoron king fought there's no way that the big mom pirates left the big mom pirates did not leave the middle king there's no way that's right what no not during this fight absolutely not could you imagine your crew just dipping on you in the middle of your big fight imagine imagine it's like all right yo she got it couldn't be the revs i think it was after the fights were completely over overall that's when they tell us like oh they ended up leaving i don't remember them telling us anything about them leaving yeah you don't know i didn't want to find it i'll find it for you i did have a second one that we could talk about that because i didn't want to i didn't really have this as my main thing just kind of to emphasize the you know where things could go for because i wanted to hop into this one which was i memed on your last time said when i came in i was like i can't but we got emu moving before dragon and akainu uh-huh just true right but i really started like we've all been memeing about it because it's funny but like i think i really started thinking about the lore implication why would oda straight up show us emu before we've seen anything from dragon we haven't seen anything on the screen from of akainu since really like the the um marine forward war and i guess if you want to count the anime stuff with him dealing with kuma you could but your question well my question is what do you think there actually might be a story reason why like obviously there's a story but what do you think the story reason might be for akainu and dragon still being sidelined when emu the great emu is now on screen in full display um their time hasn't come yet in the story man i like you how do i say this i don't i've well i know it it does work in the shonen trope to show the biggest bads last right and technically emu's reveal would indicate that he's the biggest of the bads right but to me the way oda's always operated it's just when it's your time it's your time like there was a time where akainu was the big bad and he got to kill ace and he got to be the most terrorizing figure on the on the in the arc and then that time went away and his time will return again or not same thing with like magellan right um in terms of like dragon to me i've almost always took dragon to be one of the people that would be like the leading force behind the final wars army like luffy would obviously be taking the biggest center stage in terms of like who gets stuff done but he needs an entire army behind him to take out the world government i always thought dragon would be reserved to kind of lead that army in the similar way but i don't think he's going to be able to do that i don't think he's going to be similar way that like Whitebeard led the war at Marine Ford and then Luffy kind of took center stage. Maybe not exactly in those terms, but in that light. So like, I know we troll Dragon all the time, but him doing stuff before that final war is ready to start happening was always going to be a little more hard pressed. In terms of a Kainu, I think it's a situation where Oda's under the belief that he's done enough with him as a character for us to still be intrigued, where he can still save him for maybe a showdown with Dragon, or maybe he has to make an actual pivotal decision in terms of where the Marines go. We've got some more nuanced characterization from a Kainu in recent times, him apologizing to Kazaru, him feeling bad, seemingly feeling bad for Kuma, or at least resonating with him as far as not being in full control of his destiny. You know, just minor stuff like that, him barking back at the Gorosei we're starting to see some differences in opinion between him and the Gorosei come to light. He's arguing with them. So will there come a time where he needs to make a decision? Like he was one of those people on the page of 12 people on the panels. Will he have to make a decision about the Marines versus the world government when things come to light, when things come to a head? So I think Oda's just kind of saving those two as the primary leaders of the factions that they lead for. But I think Oda's just saving them for later. Kind of my guy, man. He took Ace out. I love him forever for that. Kind of can do no wrong. I think I need to understand, bro. I wouldn't have the affection for this series that I do if Ace was still alive. If Ace was still alive, that's so insane. I can explain the reason, so I get where you're coming from. But that sounds wild on the surface. You know what I'm saying? Listen, man. Wow. Is what it is. Yeah, I think that's the story implication. He's just saving them for the bigger, world-changing decisions that they're going to have to make in the coming chapters. You think that's what this is all leading up to? Emu moved out of Merdizois. Dragon's going to find out and that's it. That's the time to move. Not while he's out, but now that he knows, Emu will leave. Maybe. Maybe. It's all complex. I still wonder if Vegapunk just signed Dophie's death warrant or not with his speech. I mean, probably. I don't think so. I don't think they killed Doflamingo. They might try. I don't think they succeed. Nobody dies in one piece. Not succeed. Of course, no one dies in one piece. Do you think Vegapunk covered the secret that Doflamingo knew? Do you think that Vegapunk spewed that out there and now there's nothing that Dophie can hold onto them? Um. No. I think the secret that Doflamingo was alluding to is different than what Vegapunk put out there. I've always felt like the secret that Dophie was referring to was Emu. The knowledge of Emu. He exists at all. I always wondered if it was just Joyboy as a whole. Because this is, this is like, that was the first event you heard Joyboy's name be said to the public. Hmm. Hmm. But okay. Doc. Man, no. That's everything. Yeah. Appreciate the call, man. You have a good night. You guys have a good night. You as well. All right. I haven't found it yet, but I feel like I'm in the area. Yeah, let us know. We did get another five from Ace of Fades. It says, who is Endgame villain, if not Emu? Um. Well, I'm still under the belief that it is Emu. But if it's not, I think Blackbeard's probably the safest bet as of now, unless it's going to be a coggy situation where somebody from the past pulls up. I know people have alluded to Davy Jones. But I think it's between Blackbeard and Emu. I lean Emu. Blackbeard, unfortunately. Another five from Gene Uchiha. Just joined and I didn't get to hear the boys congratulate me. Evil world we live in. Hashtag my eyes. Welcome, Gene. Appreciate you, man. Thank you. Thank you for being here with us. I don't know if you joined as a member on the discord or on YouTube, but either way, glad to have you. I'm trying to see if I missed it. Cause I don't, I don't see it in the, in the fan funding section. Maybe it was on discord either way. Appreciate you. Right. Let's get, uh, Delaney in here. Delaney, you there? Propel Fitness Water with Gatorade Electrolytes, zero sugar and vitamins. What propels you? Travel the worlds of Netflix IRL, inspired by fan favorites like Stranger Things and Squid Game. Brave the upside down, face off with the front man, play leveled up arcade games, shop exclusive merch, and enjoy themed food and drinks. Beat the heat, play, eat, and shop on repeat at Netflix House at Galleria Dallas. Bring your crew and save, get your tickets today at netflix.com/house. Thank you. Delaney can you hear me hey I'm here there we go how's it going man it's going good how are you doing I'm good man I'm good talk to me well I was gonna kind of piggyback off of what David Yokes I had two things but uh how y'all were coming up Larry was coming up with the music being you know because everybody's trying to figure out why the Gorse is why Mars or whoever that is is there over Asperia and I kind of had a think outside of the box a couple weeks ago and I kind of had a similar thought and it brought me back to you know if that is Mars this kind of helped it out was a god environment what if there's something that you know it's kind of like the the Kozuki clan has that special ability of writing on pony glyphs what if there's something special with the way that the first time like the first time we see Reuven the way he's cutting music notes out into the bushes and things of that nature because I don't I don't remember if we've seen that again and I wonder if that's kind of like a kind of helped make the country go down in a sense because he kind of stopped doing that I'm trying to remember what you're talking about exactly he was cutting music notes into the bushes yeah so at the like what was that two chapters ago let's see if I can find that it was like the very first flashback I believe is like when the flashback began it had um yeah I remember the music notes existing I just didn't know he was the one cutting them out yeah he was cutting them out okay I don't know it's just something interesting the only thing and then the other thing is that because you know it's like it's crazy this is why I love One Piece but to have a crazy good chapter that didn't have any information or fighting um I'm curious I know Oda's gonna deliver but but you know I think a lot of us were kind of getting burnt out on Dome University so it was kind of it kind of disappointed me to see Dome University because I was gonna call a couple weeks ago I had my I had all my stocks and I know this would still be a repeat of the past but I had all my stocks because I thought it would fit so well if it was the string string fruit that made Shuri kill her father so are you are you getting Dome University fatigue or are you butthurt that your theory wasn't right no I mean I had Dome University fatigue anyways I mean it's like it's the same question that every you know it's like well at first it was you know Imu showed up and Dome University Dome University and then you know it's like okay we're good we're good on that let's see what you can actually do um but then it's still when I when I see Dome University I saw it you know this week it was like I know Oda's gonna make it work but like why are they there you know it doesn't make any sense and of course no nobody nobody knows you know we got our little theories on it but no I just thought it would be it would have been really cool because I know a lot of people theorize that Candale had the wax wax fruit because her name's Candle so I was like it would be string string fruit would make really a really cool plot because you know she's got strings instruments all that kind of stuff and that's what I really thought was going to end up happening but it was Dome University unfortunately okay so I hope I hope Oda makes it uh makes it work well I'm curious to see uh if we get the full picture next chapter or we get to dive into somewhere else but I didn't have much because I was going to kind of touch on what David Yokes touched on but okay that's that would have been interesting to see the previous user of the string string fruit um play a factor in the story this important um we also didn't really get to see much brook interaction with like Doflamingo so you know it could explain why he didn't bring it up then you know so yeah and we're gonna but brook didn't see Mars at yeah um Egghead either so Mars was already blasting I don't know I don't know what to do with it I don't know Mars was already blasted off when that ship was uh when that ship landed right I don't know Mars was flying around though a lot so I don't know yeah I mean it's just interesting like you got me really thinking like now I'm thinking of previous users of the Ito Ito no Mi and like what they could have been doing out here what what impact they could have made on the story to this point you know but this is years in the past yeah anybody's got anybody's fruit at this point yeah so I was thinking like that's really where my mind went like this is so far long ago that like anybody could be using any fruit at any point in this flashback and we could really experience that live so that'd be pretty cool we haven't we haven't seen one yet so but instead we getting Dami Reversi again no I'm kidding unfortunately unfortunately I mean Oda better cook you better have some reason for them pulling up and him I'll say this I'll say this I don't think it could have worked with the string string fruit for the sole purpose that you would have needed to have Brooke outright believe that Gunko or Shuri did this of her own volition and like the Dami Reversi is more like it's like it makes sense for the story now it makes sense for the story now yeah I get it yeah like uh if you would have done it with a different fruit or different means Gunko could be fighting back she could be like saying words that don't lead into what she's saying now in terms of like aren't you happy I ended the war you know so yeah yeah it's just crazy we did y'all know y'all had that conversation yesterday about uh the horns you know are we are we if anybody's seeing the horns and the wings kind of thing so right right but obviously Brooke was able to sense that she's she wasn't herself so at least now back then we still don't know what kind of interaction they had after you know what's about to happen but all right Delaney I'll drop you there I gotta get the rest of these callers but you have a good night yeah all right we did get another super chat from Mr. Prince x6 it says uh two dollars yo energy too low to be a Knicks fan Seb I'm a little tired man I partied all weekend okay I had to work the last two days I had a very long Monday I ain't even gonna lie to you and I low-key got the itis I ate too much so about to start rapid firing on y'all because I got a dip by like 7 45 but we'll see all right let's get uh German here German are you there yeah I'm in here I'm in here talk to me man what's going on man how y'all doing we chilling I think Larry had to go to the bathroom but I'm here man okay okay yeah congratulations on the Knicks too brother thank you man thank you I really appreciate that bro can't wait till my team bring one home what's your team man what would you say lifelong members Grizzlies okay yeah you know you know do you want John are you are you how are you feeling no we gotta keep John he bring all the swag okay we gotta keep John he a knucklehead sometimes but you know yeah keep the guys out his hands I think the city be getting to him he a good kid man he a good kid Memphis did him crazy yeah I think it's the atmosphere it's something in the water out here man but nah nah nah I just wanted to I mean I ain't got no theory today but I just wanted to really just one of them infamous V rants really I just want to correct a couple things like I've been hearing and see what's going on like really like because like it all started with this Marco vs Kidd thing okay and like I really didn't appreciate the fact that like okay first I want to tell you I think Marco wins too right hot diff but like it was the fact that like y'all never brought up the fact that Kidd has Conqueror's Hockey but in every other argument we ever talk about against this person this person that person that person it's like Conqueror's Hockey is always the fighting factor and I feel like in the case of who we're talking about Kidd shows like slightly more feats and destructive power than like we've ever seen Marco flames aren't even hot so like what you I mean I don't want to be the dead horse but to reiterate a conversation it was like what can Marco really do to Kidd that had like I just want from y'all point of view that had y'all so stuck on like okay Marco is going to win this and we're not going to bring up the fact that Kidd has Conqueror's Hockey in this argument well one Sir, I said Kidd wins. Two, you just told me Marco wins. Right, right, right. So I'm going to need you to answer that for me because they didn't answer it yesterday either. But beyond that, in terms of the Conqueror's Hockey element, I would say the issue that people have is that Kidd isn't infusing Conqueror's Hockey in his attacks seemingly, right? Granted, there's no true way to know that, I guess, outside of whether or not Oda tells you. I don't think he is. I don't think most people think he is. So it's like his Conqueror's Hockey is used to add endurance to his willpower. He's just not going to go down easily. He'll keep getting back up and getting back up and getting back up from the things because he's a Conqueror. He refuses to back down and refuses to give up. So to me, it's not so much a, oh, like, how come we're not bringing up the fact that Kidd has Conqueror's Hockey? It's more so Kidd isn't utilizing it for it to be a real factor in fights like this outside of just him continuing to fight, if that makes sense. So how does Boa use her Conqueror's Hockey? Because we've had conversations before. Oh, you tell me, bro. You tell me because I don't know. They act like she can use it, bro. Because in the gauntlet y'all had, y'all recently had a gauntlet where y'all had Boa over Doflamingo. And I didn't understand why. Talk to Larry, bro. That's not how it came out originally. What has Boa done to show? Larry corrected the gauntlet structure. I'm like, and then if we're going to do a 1v1, let's just do a Boa versus Dofie. Like, she hasn't even, I don't even, I can't even name somebody to the caliber of like, Boa versus Dofie or Dofie versus Amigo to even compare. Like, what does Boa do at Drosser, just Drosser? We take out Dofie and put Boa. Well, does the fight even go that long? In a, in a matchup situation, it's a little different, right? Dofie has more wide scale impact, environmental impact with his attacks, his abilities. Boa has more one hitter quitter. If I catch you, the fight's over. So it's just kind of, it's a little different as to how they scale. In terms of threat level to a large nation versus 1v1 fighting. Like that's just true. Like it, it just is. Yeah, I get that. I get that. Well, if we're talking 1v1, I think Doflamingo washes Boa. Like, like mid diff, nowhere near high. Cause, cause I mean, often, you know, cause we like, you know, I remember they were saying like, you know, oh, her devil fruit hack. Well, I feel like he wears, okay. He has like almost, we can like almost say he wears like permanent shades. If we look it up, Boa's fruit won't work through his shades. That's just number one. That was like the number one thing. I thought that's not true. That is a fact. Why would the fruit not work? Her, her, her, um, her fruit doesn't do, um, it has to be direct contact. It doesn't work through planes, glass, uh, be quiet Coco. Um, um, I'm not reading it right now, but these, these is facts. You can look this up. Her fruit doesn't, it has to be a direct contact. So I feel like with the, the shades being a. Natural thing. He wears this right there was, that's not direct contact. Hold on, hold on. Cause I think you're conflating things the way, the way, the way I was reading this as I wrote it down, so it's not right here in front of me, but I'm, yeah, I'm, I'm talking facts now, hold on, hold on the way Boa's fruit works. Is it, you have to look at like, hold on. Well, how would the shades prevent Doflamingo from being turned off? Like, how would the shades prevent Doflamingo from being turned to stone? That's what I need to understand. Like wearing sunglasses doesn't make you less attracted to Boa Hancock. I mean, I mean, okay, she touches him, right? If we're talking about touching, like if she landed in that car, cause her fruit does work through contact as well, but where's the, do y'all got her land in that, like land and attack on Doflamingo? She could, she's got speed. She's got hacks on her side. Like. She's unhittable, but to the skill of like, where we've seen Boa go, do y'all got her doing that to Doflamingo with his, uh, string, string copies? And he, he's, he's not slow. His, his self, he's, he's, uh, I can't think right now. What's that the move call he did at Just Rose. I'm sorry. I didn't look it up right now to have this argument, but I know what I'm talking about is to, ah, I can't think right now, but I don't, I don't, I don't see her having enough offense to close that gap on Doflamingo without him getting the advantage. On her first. Well, so I can, I can accept that. I'm just saying you're acting as though her ability won't work on him. And that's just not true. Well, that's what, according to what I looked up, that is what was iterated to me that, that it, it doesn't work through planes. It doesn't work through glass. It has to be a direct contact on top of the fact that it's easily like, um, it's easily, uh, what's the word I want to say? Uh, broken because we even seen, uh, I can't think of his name right now, but the guy that stabs herself. When he got caught under, yeah, he, when he, he stabbed itself and broke himself free of it. So it's, it, and that, that, that's just one way to, to, to do away with it. If you're any type of a Luffy type person, you know, he can, he, he, you know, he doesn't think less. So he's not even looking at her seeing that on top of, I feel like Doflamingo, the type of person he is mentality. He looked at his father, somebody he's posted, beloved and cherished and literally shot this man. I don't, I don't got him being, uh, not so, I don't know. I, it was, like I said, that, that, that guy was just crazy. Okay. I mean, listen, Brad, I agree that I think Doflamingo is stronger than Boa. I'm not mad at you for that, but you, if you're going to try and tell me her ability won't work on him because he's wearing glasses, you missing it. You're missing me there, bro. In terms of whether he would stab himself. Sure. Maybe, you know, he has, he has the string. He could stab himself with that. I don't know that that's an effective counter to Boa's ability. I wouldn't want to be stabbing myself to prevent myself from turning to stone. That's not, that's not the word. Better than turning to stone though, I guess. Right. Essentially. Now, whether she can break out of his parasite of technique. She is a conqueror and this is where the conqueror's hockey stuff goes into the play. Um, whether or not you think she can utilize it in her actual fighting style. It comes down to how you view Boa, you know? So. All right. Are we, are we done with the nonsense? Here we go. All right. Just so we can get over the kid factor before we move into the Boa Hancock, uh, conversation. Right. We have on paper, right, kid looking at Luffy perform red rock on Kaido and hurting him. Right. And this is the question after Luffy landed and Kaido was getting up. He asks not only just Zoro and killer and law, he questions himself. He says, what was that hockey just now? You can hurt Kaido with physical blows. So when we're talking about hockey and how to use it and utilize it, he doesn't do that. So if conquerors hockey is something that not nobody really has, he's not utilizing that either. Right. I can say he's putting it into some of his attacks, but that's not necessarily true either because he's very devil fruit dependent. So people who are usually devil fruit dependent, like ACE, they don't tend to focus towards hockey at all. And that's why ACE got beat by Blackbeard. So this is the reason why we don't mention kids conquerors hockey. It's literally him and Nami both having conquerors hockey would be the same type of conquerors hockey utilization. Right. It's literally nothing happening because it's not being used. So it's not liable to be used in an argument. The best thing you can say about him having conquerors hockey is that he's unwilling to be put down off of normal attacks because he's just going to get back up. So that's just a trait that anybody with conquerors hockey has such as like Don Chin Zhao. So we don't mention it because it's not liable to be effective in a fight unless somebody just needs to keep putting him down. And that's completely possible. Okay. Like Don Chin Zhao get put down. So that's why conquerors hockey is not a factor in that argument to for Boa Hancock. This is where she utilizes her conquerors hockey, unlike kid. She's been stated even by her sisters that when Luffy admitted his conquerors hockey blast in the stadium full of Amazon Lily women, they were like, Oh my God, Hancock is the only person I've ever known who could use that hockey. And then they mentioned that man is a natural born King. And even Boa is like, yo, he can use it like me, which shows that she has some type of efficiency using this. She's proficient at using this. And that's kind of like the basic conquerors hockey tree when people do it on accident is that they release it and it knocks people out. That's kind of like the beginning of conquerors hockey. All right. Two. Yeah. I'll be talking. She really ain't that great because you haven't seen her move. and you don't know what else she could do strength-wise, but just knowing she could utilize Conqueror's Haki, she also has her Devil Fruit, which has been shown by a Yonko by the name of Blackbeard who could take away Devil Fruit abilities and does have the strongest Gora Gora Paramecia ability in the game, right? He said he had to sneak her. He said that he couldn't take his hand off of her because he'd be turned to stone. I mean, how much more evidence do you need? Do we need another Yonko that could say that to her? Because y'all put Blackbeard at a very high spot, right? So you can't argue with that. He snuck her. He snuck her in the manga, and I've been said that he snuck her in the manga. He confirmed it. He says it. So if we're going to go by facts, then we need to go by facts, right? So this is why he's hot. She's higher than Doflamingo. Because with Doflamingo, I don't think Blackbeard would try to sneak him. But that's more of a hax than an overall power to me. And that's like, what evidence do you have to say that Blackbeard, he sneaks everybody else? Maybe whatnot. You know he says it directly to her face, though. No, but again, Larry, that's more of an overall hax. Her hax is superior to Doflamingo's hax. It's a one-hitter-quitter where it would end his life. Like, he would be done. He wasn't willing to take that risk. Her hax is also influenced by her conqueror's hockey, too. Because like Doflamingo, who can sort of infuse it into his awakening, I should assume that Boa Hancock could do it with hers. And if her ability is stronger than his, off-rip. Well, hold on. Those are a lot of assumptions you're making right now. I'm sounding like we're just assuming a lot of this. Yeah, I think that Boa's ability is. uh. lesser than the string-string fruit. No, no, no. What we're saying, you're assuming she can infuse conqueror's hockey into her devil fruit, etc., etc. Like. That's. If we're arguing narrative, I think so. I think so, yes. I'm just saying that they're assumptions. You're not willing to make those assumptions with other people, though. What I'm saying is, even if you wanted to assume that Kid can do it, right? Right. He doesn't purposely do it. He doesn't utilize it with purpose. He's doing it maybe on accident. And even then, it's shown to not be that strong at all. Like, you can see that there's no infusion really in it, where with Katakuri, you could kind of assume that there's some infusion into it. Why? Because he also utilized a conqueror's hockey blast against Luffy. He also was infusing hockey into his awakening. We've seen that with. With Doflamingo, who can also utilize that conqueror's hockey blast on purpose. And then he could also infuse hockey into his awakening. So if I'm going to assume that these two people can do it, and Boa Hancock is supposed to be relevant to them, or if not stronger than Dofi, then I should assume that she's capable of doing that too, because she's also been stated to use that same conqueror's hockey blast. And she understands it. I mean, that's enough evidence for me through multiple people, right? Where Kid. He's never been able to utilize it. Ever. And if Boa has a better devil fruit than Dofi, I'm going to assume it's going to be harder to beat Boa. Why? Because her devil fruit made a Yonko hope that he couldn't take her hand off of her, or he would get bodied when he has a devil fruit that could take away her abilities. I mean, enough said, right? That's checkmate. I might can give you that. It is like a weird situation there with the Blackbeard thing. Blackbeard is scary, bro. Oh, he's scary. He is, bro. Like, I'm not going to act like that's not the case. But I'm not going to say what you're saying isn't plausible. I'm saying I would factor more in how Blackbeard is as a person than I would factoring in Boa's overall strength. But maybe that's me. And it's so funny because, one, the reason why Blackbeard found the opportunity to take her devil fruit is because of what was happening around the world. But out of all the things he could have done, he said, I want to go for that. That's one of the most important devil fruits right there. And then when he sneaks her, and then Boa's like, yo, I'll let you go if you let me and my people go, you know? And Rayleigh pulls up afterwards. He says before Rayleigh pulls up, no, you're lying. I let you go. And you'll turn us, and us is very bold in the manga, us to stone. So he wasn't saying just him. He was saying the rest of his crew, too. That's how powerful her devil fruit is. Well, hold on. The crew, the only people in the crew that mattered at that point were already turned to stone. Yeah, but it's everybody else, too. The Marines that were there as well. Anybody that was her opposition, they were all getting turned to stone. Wasn't Blackbeard in front of her, though? No, but he was behind her. He already had her yoked up by that point. And then he stuck her in. Yeah. And the thing is, too, it was even with Kobe, who's, I'm not going to sit here and say Kobe's like one of the best, but it does look like Kobe does specialize in observation hockey, but he was able to catch her arrows. So it does show that he has some speed feet, too. And she outsped him basically no diff. Like he wasn't even able to react to her. I mean, I don't, I don't be using the anime, so I'm a, I'll let you eat off that. I don't, I don't know what happened there, but. Germa, I do got to get to the rest of these callers and I'm gonna have to start speed. Oh, man. Okay. Okay. I'll let you go. I'll let you go. It's all good, man. Next time. I appreciate y'all. All right. Have a good night, man. You too, man. Oh, yeah. That was anime only. I mean, it's fine if you want to use it. You know what it is? She was definitely about to kick Kobe and like, he tried to back up. It was like the bottom left corner of chapter 1059. And then she gets pulled in by Blackbeard. So we got like four more callers and I got to be out of here by like eight o'clock. So I got like a five limit time limit on it. Everybody right now. That's my be y'all. Um, we didn't get 14 months at Yankel status from Kyber corporate. It says said, been waiting 53 years for that next win. Hashtag no cake hashtag, but we were, you know, don't be looking at my cake. When I get up and go to the bathroom, you know, chill out. All right. Chill out. All right. Um, let's get postman in here. He's been here waiting a while. He's been waiting a while. This episode is brought to you by chat GPT. Hey, it's Bill Simmons from the Bill Simmons podcast. Have you guys heard about chat GPT work? It's the new way to use chat GPT for bigger multi-step projects. And when you need more than just answers, give chat GPT work access to your apps and files, and it can create real work documents like spreadsheets, slides, and structured reports. Get started at chatgpt.com by selecting work mode available on. Plus and pro plans. Oh, Hey, how's it going now? Yeah, man. Uh, I do, I do want to preface this. I do have a shot clock on y'all right now. Five minutes timer. I got to be out of here by eight o'clock. So hit me. Okay. No, no, where I got you. Um, all right. So I guess I'll talk to one piece later. I have a, I guess a podcast. I have a podcast. I know, I know, like Larry said that, um, you guys are in the studio anymore. So I guess my question is like, like, what's your future plan? Like, are you going to stick with virtual or you're hoping to, you know, do another studio thing? Um, okay. So we've been talking for a very, very long time about, uh, switching. We've been talking for a very long time about, uh, switching from Marv to another podcast studio. And when I went to go search for other podcast studios, they were just way more expensive for way less time. And we weren't going to get the same deal, uh, that we get with Marv. And it was a lot of money. It was like too much money. It was like way too much money. Like it's, it's like two rents together, much money. And, um, yeah, it was so much bro. And me and Marv, we already like tried to, uh, see if we could call it off. We had to come to terms on like certain things that, uh, we wanted, but he just felt he, like we outgrew him. And, um, so we've always been having this idea that we were going to leave Marv and then possibly, uh, do something virtual or find something else. Like, but I would buy a house and then like, we'd have it in like the house, but then there was just other like variables. Like, what if we wanted to move? Uh, what if like, you know, any of us, like, you know, just needed to like not be in the pod 24-7 like we have been and that was a really tough like uh thought process moving forward especially for me so I I think we it's just better for us to do it virtually because we're not going to end the pod anytime soon but I think virtually is just going to be the wave I know that it's separated us from like other podcasts and I think that's generally why we've been so successful because you know like in person talking is just so much better than like through online but the convenience the the uh the variables that we can now like instill into the pod is so much more and we're not going to be limited on time we're going to be able to pull up pictures when we want we could do like our own soundboard we are able to accept super chats and talk way longer about them than we wanted to before and it's just very much easier on us because the pod has moved away it used to take us like I would say max three hours and 45 minutes to drive there be at the pod for three hours and then drive back now it's moved up to like five hours with the twins being late Seb possibly not being there uh because of work and then I have to be there and just sit until they come which could be like you know the first time Lawrence and Lionel came through to the new studio they were like an hour and 15 minutes late um so it's like I can't you know Marv's studio is not owned by us Marv's business is his own business and he has other pods so he knew the transition was going to happen where he'd lose a lot of podcasts because of this move and you know shout out to Marv but he has to do what's best for him and we have to do what's best for us so um I don't know if we're gonna get another studio but if it if we ever do something in person again I think it will be that one of us if we haven't moved away from each other we'll we'll probably have a house by then and then I'm gonna create the studio myself and just put it and then we'll come we'll come together whenever we want to and then separate whenever we want to okay I mean fair enough all right well I look forward to it all right yeah well all right I'm gonna let you guys go um that way you know appreciate that thank you brother and thank you all right thank you for the call have a good night all right you too my bad if I took too long no I was right on the dot all right next up let's get polarizing here polarize you there hello hello how's it going man rapid fire you got five minutes talk to me all right I'll try to keep it quick uh this is less of like a question more of just an observation that I've been having of the pod and the debates that go on with like the power scaling type stuff I feel like there's too much like quote-unquote on paper stuff going on where it's like you need to have a certain stat sheet like you need to have conquerors or you need to have a certain utilization of conquerors or you need to have just something and then if you don't have that thing you just automatically you it's just done despite the actual feats that are on the panels my I think my greatest example probably I know Larry's probably not gonna like it is kid where it's just like no matter how much we could talk about his weak hockey no matter how much we could talk about how his hacks isn't really all that with people saying like he could just make big metal arms it's just giant metal bowls whatever it is that's being said and I understand what's being said but I don't think it's going to be said I it makes sense like on paper kid is supposed to be pretty weak if we're being honest but in practice like on panel what Oda's writing for us is kid overpowering big mom in certain instances where law's not even involved so it's like okay he's weak on paper but the if the feats don't match up with what's on paper I just I have to put people at a certain level like it it's sort of like Marco Marco's got very to my knowledge weak hockey he hasn't shown anything his like his hockey is negligible if I were to be honest however for some reason in the manga on panel he's fighting both king and queen and getting the upper hand he's able to like stall big mom for a little bit in marine ford war he's able to stall admirals for a little bit and even if this is just like feats that we want to talk about he's able to like stall admirals for a downplay or feats that we don't think are too impressive it's still this thing of like okay he doesn't have impressive hockey and he's still doing all these things with top tiers so to me it's like there's just certain downplay that happens when you're focusing too much on what's going on like if you just list it off everything they can do instead of like just reading the the arcs themselves and using what you're seeing and coming to that conclusion from what you're seeing instead of like the the list because like you could do that with a bunch of characters like blackbeard loki just to name two of them that I'm thinking of off the top of my head where you could probably do that with but there's just there's outliers like it's like that whole thing with like rayleigh admitting he couldn't be blackbeard no matter how you view that whether you're someone who believes that it was equal because of blackbeard's actions or whether it was rayleigh's actions or whether it was blackbeard's actions or whether it was blackbeard's actions or whether it was rayleigh just fully admitting he just couldn't be blackbeard and that's the case the the whole idea for me was that oda was telling you you don't need to have like like crazy conquerors hockey to beat someone like a rayleigh even in his old age you don't like there's certain matchups and certain like one piece fights are more like chess than it would be checkers or like a fighting game like there's certain things you can do and things you could to work around the the advantages that some people have versus you and others and it could go both ways obviously but that that's just my rant I think that in order to see one piece power scaling it's really difficult because oda's pretty inconsistent with it sometimes but in order to truly like get a good grasp on it it you really do just have to go based off of what you're seeing and not based off of what potentially these people can't do because if you gave me kid versus big mom for like even five minutes and you told me that before wano I tell you he gets like one or two shot I tell you he's actually just not going to survive at all not going to last not going to damage her but he lasted he damaged her like like even with law's help I get it but I just I don't know how we go from what's on paper and we go off that instead of what's what we're watching that's the end of my rant sorry about that all right polarize I appreciate the take larry I don't have time for a rebuttal I will say I agree with almost everything you said polarize you do just got to take what you see at face value a lot of the time but and that's when you get kid get in one shot that's really it he got caught he just gets one shot after that that keep going keep going with that thought process shanks upscale talk to him shanks like that polarize I'll let you go man but thank you love y'all you too love you bro all right let's get tyler to don in here tyler five minutes rapid fire man I gotta go at eight o'clock hit me all right well I was gonna do a couple rounds I was just gonna spin a wheel and to have him face off oh my god around of it all right talk to us all right who wants to go first it'll be teams we're doing numbers right is that how it goes it'll be like three on three we'll do three and then three v three and then we'll just call it all right what's the numbers I'll go first um I mean it's anybody just wanted to team like you you and larry team I'm not getting what you mean it's a weird it okay so I have a wheel of like 200 characters and I'm gonna spin a wheel for like randomized teams and it'll just be randomized teams and it'll just be randomized teams and it'll just be you versus larry ah okay okay then I'll go first spin it all right you got scarlet scarlet like yeah rebecca's mom yeah oh my god appreciate that man thank you no problem man I guess are you spinning for me again are you going to larry I was gonna go for larry all right go ahead oh you got you got kuzan that's some bs all right give me rocks give me rocks give me rocks spin again it's going it's going you got bello betty all right larry you got it you know what kuzan kuzan was trying to bag nami bro we might be able to get her out get him out of here get him out of here get him out of here go ahead go ahead larry got burgess I need a goat-level character, bro. You need like a Yonko or Emo or something. Go ahead, man. You got Blackbeard. Okay. Oh, wow. Okay, I got something. Virgis isn't going to fight his captain, so it's already 4v1 now. Go ahead. All right, Larry, you got Kawamatsu. Kawamatsu? Hey. Okay. My little Kawamatsu. All right, so Bello Betty, she can motivate the troops. We got a turncoat. We got a turncoat. It's 4v2, right? Bello Betty. Rebecca's mom, she got to survive for this to win? No, no, no. Okay, all right. If Blackbeard has to solo and the other people go, you win. Listen, we got to strategize, okay? The goal will be to use Scarlett as a hostage and say, yo, give up or we're going to murder this. This innocent woman. And when Kuzan's morality kicks in, that's when we win. I got it. I don't know. I think I got it. And Virgis switching up. So it's 4v2 with hostage situation. You're just taking Virgis from Larry? Yeah. That's my subordinate, okay? He's not going to fight Blackbeard. So is Kuzan. Yeah, Kuzan is too. It's 4v2. It's 5v1, man. Let's go. Kawamatsu clutching? I didn't think so. Give me that. You think we have time for another one real quick? All right. 1v1 or something, man. Hit me. All right. We'll do a 1v1 then. I got that, though. No, you don't. I got it. I got it and you know it. No, you don't. And Bello Betty motivating the troops. All right. Who wants? I guess. Larry can go first. Larry can go first. I'll go first, man. All right. All right. You got it. King Neptune. Oh, God. Okay. He can swing. His punch preloaded or not? I mean. No. You're talking about King Neptune. Oh, no. Oh, no. Yeah. Yeah. King Neptune is a dog, bro. Okay. All right. You got Makino. Oh, yeah. GG's, bro. What are you doing, bro? That's crazy, bro. I put some big dogs in there. What are we doing, bro? All the Yonko. There's second, third, first commanders on there. This is a 2v2 or this is it? There's no more spins? You want to do two? We can do another. It'll be Larry's. This is crazy, bro. This is wild picks. Bro got me. Make it a 2v2, bro. Makino is crazy. Oh, no. Larry, you got Sengoku. All right, man. All right. Don't even spin for me, bro. Don't even spin. Don't even spin, bro. No, I got you. You're going to go something crazy. Yo, Sengoku, I've ripped. Yeah, never mind. You lost. You got Denjiro. Those are the worst picks I've ever rolled for somebody ever. I'm not going to lie to you. I've never rolled that many bad people for one person. That's crazy, bro. Sengoku versus Denjiro is insane, bro. That was nasty. That was nasty work. Makino versus King Neptune, bro. Thank you. Appreciate it. I'm sorry, sir. Hey, Blackbeard the goat, bro. Blackbeard got a clutch for me, bro. That's it. I do want to see Blackbeard versus Luffy, but I'll catch y'all. Congrats on the Knicks, man. Thank you, man. At least I got a W last week, bro. Yeah, you ain't lying. Even though my Pistons would have beat down on you. No chance. No chance. We would have put that BTA on you, man. No chance, bro. Have a good one. You too. All right. All right. All right. Nerd, are you there? Yes, I am here. All right. Five minutes. Rapid fire. Hit me. Yeah, yeah. I got you. I just want to say something, though, real quick before I start really fast. So the guy from the last page, the invisible guy, he's got these, like, circle things on him, which also Mu has on him in LVAP form. But what's really, really interesting is that Oda recently dropped. Drew a picture of Luffy in an astronaut outfit that has these same circles on the astronaut costume. But I also think that that guy might be a Vinsmoke. But that's for another time. I know I can't do my theory today that I wanted to that I was talking about last week. But have you guys heard too much kid stuff today? Because I wasn't going to do a kid one, but I'll do another one. You can let me know. Just tell me. Go for it. Go for it. All right. I'm really sorry. Make it quick. Make it quick. I got to go for real. It's five minutes long. If you need to cut me off, just let me know. Okay. What if kid did not lose in LVAP because Oda was not was throwing him away? What if kid lost because he's the one pirate in the worst generations whose power could accidentally break the hidden structure of the entire planet? Because the world of one piece is not built like a normal planet. It is built on magnetism, vertical realms, impossible current, sacred trees and poles. The Grand Line already proves it. Normal compasses fail. They're because every island gives up its own abnormal magnetic field and the log poses do not simply point north. It locks onto island magnetism. In the new world, the three needle log pose exists because magnetic waves become even more unstable and each needle locks onto a different island. So from the beginning, Oda has been telling us the world is not navigated by geography is navigated by magnetic order. Now put uses kid into that system. Kid is not just a metal punk with a job. The giant scrap arm kid ate the Jika Jika, the magnet fruit. His entire power is attraction, repulsion, polarity, and forced alignment. He does not just throw metal. He manipulates magnetic fields and the same kind of force language. Uh, the Grand Line uses to decide where people can and cannot sail. That means uses kid is walking into LVAP. It kid walking into LVAP is like someone carrying a planetary override code into the engine room of the world. And this is why Shane. And this is why shanks moved the way he did when kid prepared. Damn punk shanks did not casually block him. He saw the future understanding of the danger and the media and immediately erased kids attack before it could fire the surface Reddit. The surface read is simple. Shanks protected his fleet, but the deeper theory is that shanks saw kid firing a magnetized rail gun near Elba, the one Island where magnetism mythology and the world structure all meet kid was not just aiming at ships. Kid was standing too close to the planet's axis because LVAP is not just the Island of giants. LVAP is the axis. Monday, the world pillar, the cosmic tree, the bridge between realms, treasure tree, Adam forms the upper regions of LVAP functions as the backbone of the war land kingdom. And let's even giants live in settlements above its branches. The sun world is located on the lower canopy of the treasure tree above the underworld and below the heaven. The world that means LVAP is not a flat geography. It is stacked cosmology underworld below sun world in middle heaven world above. This is exactly what an X Monday is the sacred center, the, that connects and separates the underworld, the human world and the divine world. So Oda gives us LVAPs Adam tree. He is not just drawing a big fantasy tree. He's drawing a gravitational spine, a cosmic separator, a living pole that keeps the layers of the world from collapsing into each other. Yeah. Adam tree is not just symbolic of the gravitational lock to it keeps the heaven realm from crashing into the human world. And it keeps the underworld and abyss from rising. It keeps the sun world balanced between the two. And if the tree is damaged, then visible pole holding the world in order starts to fail. Now this is where Rayleigh and scopper become terrifyingly important. Rogers crew was not named randomly. Gold D Rogers is gold, silver Rayleigh, silver scopper is copper, gold, silver, copper, three metals, three conductors, three pieces of circuit. Roger was the gold center, the sun metal, the completed King who reached left tail. But after Roger died, the two metals left behind were Rayleigh and scopper. And where did Oda place them on opposite sides of the world's vertical structure? Rayleigh is the silver pole. He is stationed at Sabaody the threshold before descent Sabaody is where pirates need ship coding to travel down to Fishman Island under the red line through the deep sea. And the sun is the sun, the sun is the sun, the sun is the sun, the sun is the sun, the sun is the sun, the sun is the sun. Rayleigh Rogers former first mate becomes a coding mechanic at the gate between the surface and the undersea path. He trains Luffy and hockey and not just randomly, but as the descent point of the world, Rayleigh is a guardian of the downward route. The undersea pole, the moon, silver roof reflector of Rogers will then scopper Gabon appears at Elva. Um, Gabon is copper copper conducts. Copper carries current copper. Moves energy through a system and Oda places him below the, him, not below the red line, not beside the deep sea, but at the world tree itself, he is called the left hand of the pirate King, one of Rogers wings alongside Rayleigh. And he's tied to LFS. Um, that makes him the opposite pole. If Rayleigh is the silver pole below scoppers, the copper pole above one guards, the descent one guards, the scent together, they're the two living metals keeping the circuit alive until joy boys return. That means Rayleigh and Scopper are not just old legends waiting to help the next generation they are the north and south pole equivalent and rayleigh's at the ocean gate scopper at the sky tree gate um is a reflection or is reflection and conduction moon and current downward path and upward path and between them is the gravitational pole that separates them now enter kid kid is a threat because magnetism attacks poles his whole fruit is about changing polarity he attracts he repels he forces alignment if rayleigh and scopper represent the old metallic poles kid is the chaotic magnet that can rip that order apart he's not evil but he's unstable his ambition without wisdom he is the wrong person with the right power and when he will arrive at elbef he is standing inside the world world's magnetic temple this is why his defeat by shanks is not the end it is a setup you get ship is destroyed at elbef but elbef itself is vertical underworld sun world heaven world so what if kid does not simply sink even though he has a devil fruit what if his magnetic body and devil fruit resonance gets pulled into the wrong layer of the tree what if kid is not dead or finished but displaced upward into the heaven realm and who is the perfect character to find him there yuruj yuruj has always been a missing worst generation piece he's the mad monk he's from the sky and he's the one who's going to find him and he's the one who's going to find him sky island he is the only super rookie and worst generation member from sky island and his devil fruit remains unnamed as of the egghead and elbeth era that matters because oda has saved him for the end game his combat theme is punishment becoming strength he takes damage converts suffering and returns it as power that is not just durability that is karma that is consequence that is spiritual accounting so kid coming back with yuruj is not just a team up it's a transformation kid goes up as a failed conqueror aka commoner and comes down as a karmic weapon yuruj teaches him that magnetism is not only attraction and repulsion it's judgment it is balance it is what pulls sin back to the sinner suddenly kids attacks are not just metal cannons they become cosmic sentencings damn punk becomes actual damnation punk clash becomes karmic collision kid stops being only the the only angry punk who charges forward and becomes the magnetic judge who can punish the false gods but this is where everything goes wrong kid comes down from the heaven realm and we'll see shamrock shamrock shanks twins and connected by the figurine bloodline world nobles and the knights of god to the reader shamrock is not shanks but to kid think about the psychology kid just lost an arm to shanks member crew kid lost poneglyph rubbings to shanks kid lost victoria punk to shanks kid watched his dream get erased by divine departure so if kid descends from the heavens with yuruj charged with karma and rage and sees another red-haired figurine with shanks face he is not going to calmly ask for the goddamn family tree he is going to think the universe has given him the rematch he's been waiting for and that's the mistake that will that uh will trigger the apocalypse because shamrock is not just fake shanks shamrock is tied to the world government system trying to invade elbaf from above that means kid's revenge attack will not simply be aimed at a man it'll be fired into the battlefield around the x monday kid will think he is destroying shanks in reality he may hit the structure that keeps mu from fully entering the world this is where mu becomes the domination force luffy's powers freedom nika freeze body freeze laughter freeze rhythm freeze imagination mu is the opposite mu dominates mu possesses new rules from the hidden throne now the empty throne and holding supreme authority over the government from the shadows nerd you're well over five minutes sir sir all right sorry jeez all right i'll finish the next time okay all right because i do gotta go my bad nah you're good man um i liked what i heard about kid keep that up need more kid energy like that yeah i'll be hating on my boy but no no i hate kid don't get that wrong like he's definitely he's definitely got commoners hockey at most but but the heaven realm the farthest realm it translates to nerd what the far blue i gotta have a good one all right i gotta get these last two in because they're also yankos so reaper you got five minutes i know nerd took nine but i didn't really find a spot to cut them off go in but you got five still my bad welcome home talk to me bro should i see larry over here let me wake him up real quick yo you got a chance to hear my uh my theory last week no i didn't ah dang bro my bad bro seven tell me bro i don't be remembering yo you got five minutes bro go it's been 30 seconds bro i got a whole nother foe it's like all right i understand your next one you're a little excited but come on how y'all doing because i ain't got nothing to talk about oh my god i got five minutes to yeah we're gonna get together yo reaper yo you about to get fist fought bro yeah have a good night bro you really had that oh my god i can't you know all right mario mario you got five minutes bro five talk to me bro mario going once man mario five minutes rapid fire hit me bro i gotta go i'm already late that's nice i don't know what to say but hey yo the knicks really made new york city looked like crazy bro like they need they need them and then they're going to be like they're going to be there bro cars are burning bro what did you do bro listen i didn't do anything but the next one so it was all on the table all right all of it okay all right i'm not just gonna you know what i'm gonna ask you guys a question uh do you all think now that we see nimu resident's gonna finally finally get his butt up his chair and go do something productive to the world instead of sitting on the seaside looking at the beaches you say dragon or a kind of dragon uh yeah i do i think he will the holy knights move technically that move took place in the same arc that we're in now so i'm gonna give dragon his grace now is the time i mean yeah that was the time but like last time he said when the holy knights move that we like now we see like holy 9 moving for like 100 chapters now at this point yeah but they hadn't flashed outside of this area you know like dragon could be moving right now right but we i'm really curious of how a kind of react to this because like he was always like people forget that as as like ruthless as that kind of is he is still part of the police force in the one peaceful he's like the officer that has to keep the law in place like because we see the holy knights moving for like 100 chapters now like because we see a lot of pirates are not good people so akainu is there to put a stop or like to balance out the evil you get what i'm saying even though him being like kind of evil himself or like he would do whatever it takes to get the mission done but you can't really blame him for like doing all those stuff i know those stuff are questionable but he's still following the law and he is a law-abiding citizen who is trying to protect the citizen you get one yeah i mean somebody brought up earlier a little bit about akainu and his inaction so far um i think it'll come down to whatever decision he ends up making with the marines i think otis made it very clear that the world government and the marines aren't one unit they are two different entities with two different leadership structures and yes as of now the marines kind of follow suit but akainu is already bucking back he's already showing them as two different like entities so it'll come down to a decision that akainu or whoever becomes the leadership of the marines makes in regards to the world government um i don't know if i see a kind of sticking with them if he finds out the truth of everything um but i guess we'll see i guess we'll see i don't know what action that necessarily will take from him but i feel like i kind of literally swing on anyway if you saw him or like he saw what he was doing okay he would die it was literally the opposite of what he was trying to do even though his like actions are like this he is still on the path of justice absolute justice like if i remember currently that's this i do that's just modal i do have to rap but again that that is the point i think the point is i can't hear what you're saying if you're talking so maybe it's my internet problems mario you hear me yeah yeah yeah okay i do think that's the point is that they've indoctrinated these people to thinking that they're doing the right thing when the whole time they're basically supporting all of the negativity that they've been trying to wipe out of the world like i think that's the beauty of the marines relationship with the world government and the celestial dragons like that's the point that's why wrote it in the way that he did but mario sorry i do gotta run so thank you oh yeah you have a good day because i think it's early morning for you it's kind of early and i gotta go to work soon because i just changed the job so that's why i've not been showing up quite lately you know don't worry he's in so all right have a good one all right my bad y'all i i'm already like 12 minutes late for something i gotta do uh we need to get one more super chat five dollars from larry's biggest hater it says who y'all most underrated and overrated villain in one piece to me underrated has to be hordie jones magellan for overrated or underrated underrated underrated both for both it depends on who you're talking to um underrated villain i've been an l hater for a while i feel like he's underrated now he was overrated back in the day but now people act like he can't be nobody and i don't like that um overrated i don't know you went silent sub i'm silent you can't hear me can y'all not hear me yeah you went yeah one side you went side for a second um i don't have an overrated man they're all pretty good overrated i'll continue the hate train big mom man he's also the most underrated too so i'll give you that but i i do gotta wrap guys i hope y'all enjoyed the stream if you want to join in on these call-in streams become a yonko or warlord tiered member on the discord you'll have access to our voice channel that is specifically for these call-in streams like the stream if you haven't already and tune in next week um no ddt this week i have to fly for work well not work but i gotta fly out tomorrow uh but next week we'll be back in the studio and then we'll be doing a call-in stream and a ddt and then we're bringing survivor to the live streams soon man i haven't discussed that with larry just yet but it should be a lot of fun we'll be bringing more streams to you guys uh but i gotta go larry peace out everybody hey portnoy here something big is coming september 2nd draft kings game day massive deals exclusive deals an 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