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TOPT Call In Stream: Episode 25

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TOPT Call In Stream: Episode 25

The call-in stream features an engaging discussion among fans on One Piece and Kingdom fandoms. Central themes include fan-driven power scaling debates, such as the sudden shift in beliefs about Jimbe and Thongy’s strength, which is seen as hypocritical and toxic. The conversation extends to Saunji’s actions during Hole Cake Island, where Zoro’s loyalty to Luffy is acknowledged as a key factor in how he might respond. A deeper philosophical discussion on good and evil is presented through Flamingo’s character, emphasizing that trauma doesn’t dictate morality—choices do. Fans also debate character strength, with strong opinions on Blackbeard and Kuzan’s capabilities in a 2v1 scenario. A fan highlights Conkey from *Kingdom* as a highly strategic and complex character, valuing his leadership despite his villainous role. The stream also touches on fan theories, such as a potential "Top 30 Worst Characters" list, and a creative basketball lineup featuring Luffy and other characters. The tone remains lighthearted, blending humor, analysis, and community-driven fan interaction, showcasing the depth of engagement in anime-related discussions.

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Yeah, Bums have numbers way up brother. I won't even say yeah, I'll let you say All right, let me see if we love a lot of people don't know about that Because it doesn't know what to buy you and you got to go there and look at it So but I just never speak on it out loud because not already get enough superchance if it is Mm-hmm, so everybody who got a new one All right, I think I think we're live. Are we live? Let me know for live y'all I bet let me know if we're live. I think we're live Oh, yeah, we are all right Hello, hello, and welcome everyone to another episode of the T-O-P-T callin stream. My name is Seb And I'm joined here by my mods and staff Toby and Twilight These are the callin streams where we have you guys join our discord voice channel to ask us questions Pitcher hottest theories or rants about one piece or really anything anime related. Honestly, it doesn't have to be anime related You guys can talk to us about anything really um, but it's a lot of fun. You'll have to be a server member on our discord So warlord or higher in order to see the voice channel That houses for the callin stream only the callin stream only voice channel um, we will also be allowing donated memberships So any $5 super chat can get somebody in there as a donation Any five gifted memberships will get somebody in as a donation. So things like that. We really do appreciate all the hospitality that you guys do come with um But yeah, these are a lot of fun. We rarely ever get to have callins on the live studio sessions So we've decided to make specifically callin streams Or a stream dedicated to you guys calling in. So I'll open it up to to y'all. Yeah soon But I just want to say what's up to to Toby and Twilight man. How y'all feeling man? Feeling good But like you said earlier we've been about a been about a month since we were last year Yeah, it was like forever I'm ready to do that. I'm ready Yeah, I'm ready to hear some theories man. It's been a while since we've talked to the chat since we've heard from everybody I know we were able to get some calls in on one of the more recent live streams, but that's just so rare But really do appreciate you guys's patience. Sorry. I've been doing a lot of traveling for work a lot of traveling for play And the nicks have just been playing on callin stream days man. I'm not gonna lie. I'm a huge nicks fan as you guys can see um I'm not used to them being as far in to the playoffs, man You know It's June and I'm still watching nicks basketball. They sold last night. Not what you want to see um Definitely not what you want to see, but y'all like the stream if you guys haven't already Please hit that like button for those of you guys asking It's more new again You guys can participate in the callin streams yourselves by joining in the link to the discord and becoming a server tiered member Or donating your way or others with people's ways in with $5 or higher super chats, but hit that like button Um, we did get a super chat from twilight nonetheless Um his 47 months at knock him a status. It says let's go 47 months and many more to come. Let's go. Thank you twilight. Appreciate that bro 37. 40. He's off 36. Yeah, so I said 38. I was too far off. I was a too far off Yeah, guys like the stream hit that like button. I know we already have like 50 people in here, but we only got like nine likes man hit that like button to help us out I see some people starting to navigate in here But before we get to them, I rarely do this Toby twilight. Do y'all have a theory a question or something? Yeah, I want to talk about before we get into everything today Uh, I don't got a theory By doing a point out the hypocrisy of one piece fans. I it's completely It's completely out of nowhere, but I thought about it recently, bro And it's about your man's thongy, so okay, it's about your man's thongy. Yo The the fact that people Pretend it Like jimbe was stronger than thongy for two years out of nowhere for no reason Was insane and like now you don't really see people say it as much because it was a gimmick the whole time But like back in wano When like jimbe had joined them and then they got the bounties and stuff And jimbe's bounties was higher The whole topic for for that next week was y'all How was jimbe's bountie higher? He's not even stronger than thongy Or maybe it's because his reputation and his name and he was a former warlord and But nobody said jimbe was stronger than thongy For whatever reason months later All of a sudden jimbe was stronger than thongy. I didn't get it. I didn't get it. It was one of the weirdest 180s I've ever seen in terms of power scaling From any fan base ever And I couldn't believe it and obviously You know other hosts were pushing the agenda and You know it was it was nasty. I and and I just recently looked back I was like, wow, I can't believe there was a time when people were pretending jimbe was stronger than thongy Toby, I mean, I don't know how long you've been a one-piece fan, but that's just how toxicity in the Saunji/Zoro fandom is because the same nonsense happened when Saunji's bountie was slightly higher than Zoro's for a couple arcs there And it was not since then too like yeah, like I don't know bounty scaling has always been goofy in the first place um But I think In terms of jimbe versus saunji it really comes down to how you viewed How strong queen was and how strong The upgrades that saunji got with his germ uh abilities were Because this people, I mean, I debate larry all the time as to whether or not saunji's still stronger than jimbe or not Right now That's just a legend. He was pushing the agenda so hard, but even larry like I remember these old episodes larry himself deep and say jimbe was stronger when the bounties came out He was saying like no y'all gotta realize jimbe is a warlord. He was a warlord jimbe was just a nut and then once later it was like Yo jimbe stronger than saunji and it was like y'all what did this come from y'all didn't y'all weren't saying this a few months ago When it was actually a hot topic and on top of that older kind of told us like But remember when they split up in groups in that head And loufi was paired up with jimbe And saunji was paired up with like you know what I'm saying is Zoro had his own group Oh there was saunas right there who the big thing was Mike And even natively it's just what it makes sense for jimbe to be stronger neither so It was nasty, but I'm a huge Zoro fan, but it was nasty I remember correctly twilight doesn't care for saunji too much so twilight what you got Oh no, I'm gonna just ask a simple question hole cake island You think saunji's dude or saunji's doing the same exact thing jimbe did with big mom Assuming he would be allowed to like hurt a woman or whatever Well, no, no, I mean not not like the Oh yeah for sure But livery like he's not even a thought to me he would do that. I think even even pre-timescap he would be able to do that Because that's just about loyalty and and respect and admiration for luffy then it is about like actual strength You know what I mean see another thing is with saunji with saunji the whole thing that made me Because fishman island really heard saunji in my eyes Uh it did I was just starting to like him and then hole cake island happened and Yeah ever since then I've been solidified in my saunji hate I'm still on the camp then I feel like it's or over found out what saunji did on hole cake island that would be that would be a problem I'd be a very big problem I would not that's why yeah, I don't think so I think I think and this is this might be controversial I think the notion that zoro would have a problem with it is actually disrespectful to zoro's emotional intelligence Because zoro knows how much luffy means to saunji and what he would be willing to sacrifice To protect luffy under any circumstance And he they both witnessed the usop thing so it's like Zoro I think would be able to understand Okay for saunji to be put in this predicament and do the things that he did There had to have been a quality enough reason he might have looked at it as disrespect and he might have checked saunji about it But I think you would have understood at the end of the day but that's that's me you know Yeah, I think that would have liked saunji right where he stood was kind of like a drag You know like I don't think it would have been that deep. I think it's all would have been mad, but it wouldn't have been a huge problem. All right. I could see it on that. I agree. When you put it in that perspective. I let you get yours man. I gave Toby his you have a question comment concern emotional outbursts that you want to get off your chest before we move on to colors. It's been a month man. I got it. I mean. Really the only thing for sure I said it before I mentioned about the whole. How I think. I think so. I feel like I vaguely remember that. Yeah. I can't say I got you know that. Okay. I'll ask this. So that'd be sure it's fine yet. I sure didn't. Yeah. Everything I'll pause until these these folks stop playing basketball. I ain't starting nothing new. Nothing. I remember Larry Larry even brought up yesterday. It was like I've been trying to get seven to slide. I know you'd enjoy it. I'm like. You need to get on that. I know what I will say. I went to Momoko from my birthday and a couple people were telling me I should watch slime. New the new season that's coming out right now. I guess that's the thing with slime. And here's what I'll say you're thinking about what's happening. But the thing with slime is every season. It's just. Oh no. Did you do that? Did you do that? I didn't know. I was good. That's crazy. The slime police say yo no spoilers gang. They got him and it came and got him. Hopefully that's why life's good man. I know he don't live in the best area. All right. Let's get to the rusty super chats and those are dragging people up. We got five from Caleb Mard Chan, I believe it says hey, did you guys see the new gears in Halo game? What are your thoughts on that? I did not. I haven't seen any of the like. Is it E3 that just recently dropped? I remember. I remember what it is, but there's some sort of like gaming convention that was like dropping a bunch of different games. I didn't I didn't partake in any of that. I was like, I didn't hear anything for a second. I was like. Some some wrong on my hand. That was the last thing you heard me say after that. I forgot. It's slime. It's cyber. We passed it. Yeah, no, I was just going to say that one last thing. I didn't have a question on today. I thought of Epo. What is wrong with talking her dog? Listen. No, no, no, no, no, no. I remember you said the homeboy before about. Well, you hate your MC. Talk about going. Not like that. That's all good. Talking about. What equals. Wang. Hey, man. I literally I was watching. You know the fight I'm talking about when I didn't do those. Yeah. Wait, he went to use the bathroom. See that riding time. I turned off my streaming service. All the tends to. You ain't never just been in a locker room with another man. I mean, Johnny stop. You can't justify. I can't justify. I can't justify what's talking more of me doing, bro. He's a wild boy. It is hilarious. I'll say I've always found it extremely funny, but he be wild. So I can't I can't knock the he be wild. He really do. It's been. It's been cool. I've loved every single dog. - No, Rose got an out of session. - He's situation, he can. - He brings it up. - Listen, just know, a part of that is him being a W-wing man and a part of it is him being an L-wing man. Just know, Larry is the Takamora type wing man. I won't elaborate. - I agree. - But that's what he beyond. - That's what Larry is the beyond. - Absolutely terrible. - Oh, he's a L-wing man, he's a L-wing man, he's a L-wing man. - He's a L-wing man, he's a L-wing man. - All right, let's get some people in here. They've been waiting. I think I saw Buzz Groove was the first person. I think Sonnet was after them. So let's get Buzz in here. Buzz, you there? - Hey. - Hey, man, how's it going? Oh, man. Try to get these Odyssey tickets. - It's raw. - One is a drop. - I am interested, I'm gonna go see that. - Like a month or so, but right now, it's like trying to get an L-mo during Black Friday. It's crazy. - It's like trying to get to the Knicks, MSG man, insane. - How was that, by the way? - I mean, I didn't go. I can't afford all that. That's too much of my life. - That was the game. I don't follow sports. - Yeah, sports are for nerds. - They lost last night. - Sorry to hear that. - That's what it is, man. How are you? It's been a month, Buzz. What's up? - Jeez, has it really? - Wow. - What? - I'm all right. - Doing cool. I did a, is Larry here? - He is not. He's actually assisting the twins setting up their streaming equipment in general, so. - Disgusting. But, no, I only say it because it was not on the last episode of the pod. I think the one before that, where Larry made a connection for Brooke in the Straw Hats. And now he's like the quote, unquote, most faded straw hat or something along those lines. And I really dug that bit. It was a rare chance for Larry to use that big head of his and actually, you know, to stay something nice. - Oh my God. - It got me thinking about Brooke and his connection with the Straw Hats. And I actually, I found two more that I like to share with you all. - Yeah, him. - Sucks that Larry couldn't be here because, you know, I did kind of make this because of him, but, you know, hey, Larry Bear, I know you're listening. I know you will listen to this. Hit me up afterwards. I want to know what you think. All right. So here's the, here's the first point. Sorry, I got to clear my throat. Haven't talked in a bit. When he was 11, Brooke had absolutely nothing in the world and was close to starving the death all the time. And yet he didn't let any of that get to him. Instead of wallowing in his suffering, he was jumping around, singing his heart out with a big ol' smile on his face. As long as he could still sing and play music, nothing else mattered because he could still find the joy in doing what he loved. You could even say that he, in those moments, is the very embodiment of a joy boy. Now, let's go to chapter 1045 real quick. What did Luffy say when he was once again on the verge of death after losing his necoform? He recited a line from Binksake, song intrinsically tied with Brooke, and then went back into his necoform, becoming a joy boy himself. - What was the name? - That was my first. It was, after all this said it done, all were left his bones. It, I definitely messed up that line, but it was about that line there. It was when he slipped out of his necoform and kind of was like, hey, someone, we'll tell you the story of. - What chapter was it? - Yeah, I'm trying to remember. - 1045. - 1045. - 1045. - Yeah, and kind of was like, don't worry, like after you lose and all that, someone will tell the story of Luffy's like, I don't want that when we're gone, all this left his bones. - Yeah, once we're dead, the only thing that's left his bones, he he he. - Yeah, that's a line from Binksake. - That is a line from Binksake. - Oh, it's one of my favorite Luffy moments. - Oh, wow. - Oh, how did I not place that? That's crazy. - That is crazy. - That is crazy. - I reread this fight like 10 times. I'd never place that. - So it's a wonder why you're even on the pod in the first place, but anyway, so my second point, Brooke is a man who is cursed with loneliness. He lost his biological family. He lost his found family on a sparey. He flosses. run bar pirates, and he lost the straw hat pirates. But which were the only ones that he could get back? Now I understand that's not the fairest comparison to make, because the circumstances for all of those losses are wildly different, but we know that fate plays a role in the grand scheme of the story. Luffy's entire journey has been unknowingly built off of a fate that's been building for centuries, and it's the will of that fate that Luffy will be the next king of the pirates. And what does Luffy always say about his crew? He cannot be king of the pirates without his crew. Brook could have stayed alone after being separated from the straw hats, but he'd probably have found another family through either those weird Satanists or the music industry. But the world needs Luffy to find the one piece, and Luffy needs his crew. His swordsman, his navigator, his sniper, his cook, his doctor, his archaeologist, his mechanic, his shipwright, and most definitely his music musician. Yeah, I love the additional emphasis on Brook's importance in the coming chapters. The fact that he's getting his own second flashback, I think is much needed for him as a character. I didn't expect it to come now, but I think the fact that we're getting it now is going to show how important it is. And I'm curious to see what the tie-in or deeper, thematic messaging will be, because typically, any and all flashbacks that we get in one piece in an arc like this will tie into what the arcs overarching themes are about. So I'm really curious how this will tie into Elbaph's lore and Elbaph's storyline. Well, I think what you said was beautiful, but it's honestly connections you made. Oh, thank you. Thank you. I got to start looking at Brook in a different light. Man, we all do. Look, he's had his gas from who was it, Preston? Yeah. I mean, I'm wearing a shirt. We're wearing a sweater right now. Oh, are you? Oh, that's fantastic. But, you know, it wasn't really earned before he was cool, but you know, that kind of praise wasn't truly earned, but now that it might just have to be. Brook is, he's like a, he's a sneaky goat. Like he's just kind of in the background doing his own thing, but when he does do his own thing, it's always incredible. Like whole cake alone. Like he was just a background figure, but he was like the most important person in that whole arc. I'm so proud. I've been a Brook fan for years. Well, Buzz, I'm going to try to get to as many calls as possible. So I'm going to drop you there. Oh, please get rid of me. Have a go, man. Y'all as well. Love y'all. All right, we did a couple of super chats that came in while we were talking about us. So I'll read those now. Um, we got five from Keenan Williams said, bro, you're going to let Larry and the boys keep the notion that Sanji can't hurt flame off King, but Sanji would be able to be black beard to his standards. I mean, what do you want me to do with that, man? Truly. Like if you, like, what, what, what would you want me to do, man? People are going to believe what they believe until they don't believe it. So be up there fighting, man. I'll be trying not to fight. They be making me crash live, man. I'd be so ready to just let them have their, their notions. I don't know if they cannot get anything last night. I didn't watch the stream. I was preoccupied. I heard that I've seen you multiple times trying to get it off. No, this is going to keep going. Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm under the impression that he probably could hurt flame off King. I'm also under the impression that he wouldn't be able to be black beard. I don't think anybody at Sanji's level be capable of doing almost anything to black beard. Truly. Um, maybe, maybe he can push it to my diff, maybe, maybe very, very, very hard, maybe, bro, very. Um, but yeah, they just, they believe that, bro. I don't even know if they all believe that, but it is what it is. I also think King is one of the most overrated fighters in one piece history. I'm going to be able to get rid of that one, but King. King. Cool, bro. So let's be real. He cool. And also, if his ability works the way that people act like it works, then he's one of the dumbest fighters in one piece history. Why is the flame ever all ever. If that's how it works, the way I think it works, why would the flame ever be off, bro? I mean, really explain that he moves faster without him now. Okay. I'm faster. That's cool. And he got to his zone. He got to his zone at some point. Oh, this is what I mean, no, so if the ability worked, if the flame off, if the flame on works, in the way that y'all are suggesting it works, it doesn't matter. It wouldn't matter how fast he is. He would just outlast whatever. Yeah, it wouldn't matter. It would never matter. Now you're good, man. But I try. I try. King. I think King's design is one of the best in the series. I think his story is pretty cool. I think his ability is dope. I think Odo wasted a devil fruit on him. He gave him something to make him a little stronger. He kind of already had flight and durability, like he didn't gain anything with this devil fruit. I thought that was kind of unfair to him. But yeah, the way they talk about him now, like people tell you out cat has no chance. People like Saujan's. I'm like, I was let's be real. That was one of the super cats last night was about how Sabeau was. Sabeau versus King. It was Sabeau knows. Sabeau versus a cat. Remember why this reminded me because somebody brought up a cat. Yeah, it was a Sabeau loses to cat and Blackbeard. And then it got it was a basically a cat over Blackbeard and Sabeau super chat. I can't. Maybe Sabeau. I can't. Not Blackbeard. Can't not be in Sabeau or Blackbeard. Yeah, I don't think so. But Sabeau just don't got, you know, I feel like I feel like cat with me Sabeau. Blackbeard much as I hate the guy. I don't think cast got that one. Yeah, this is why you got scaled the narrative my guy. This is why. This is why because I'm going to be real with you guys. Sabeau be a cat. And you're going to ask me to go to the feet. It's just it's the I don't like Sabeau. I like cat as a cat. Much more than Sabeau. But if them two do, he's got into a fight. I got Sabeau every time. I got Sabeau too. You guys can try hand. All right. Next, we got four months at Nakama status from David Yokes. It says any thoughts on all four Yonko meeting up at Rafftell. And I appreciate you using Rafftell, the OG Rafftell David Yokes. It tells me you're OG. All four of them at Rafftell at the same time. I will say this. I've always wanted there to be a Yonko summit where all the Yonko meet. Not granted. This was this was way back in the day where it was, you know, like kaito big mom shakes back here. You know, I'm saying, that's that's what I wanted. When Luffy knocked these two off, I was like, okay, we can see it now. It's probably more likely to be seen now at least with three of them. I could definitely see at least three of them in the same place at the same time. And maybe Black Beer's Crash is like party. But I don't know. At Rafftell, I'd say Rafftell is too far. I would say, let's do load star. I don't think we can do it at Rafftell. It needs to be a lesser island. I think there is significance to only one of them making it to Rafftell. Yeah. Because I don't think I'm going to be bad if Buggie makes it again. But he can make it the first time, did he? He was sick. Yeah. I think I just don't like Buggie. So I don't want to see him make it at all. That's all Buggie, man. You don't like the guy too? Yeah. It's good to a certain point though. You think it's too far? Yeah, like, I think Yonko is where I actually started disliking him. Okay. Like Yonko, girl. Okay. I feel what you say. I feel what you saying. To me, it's perfect. Because if you take the Buggie gag outside of the story, right? Where are we feeling that gap? Right? Because Because you're because you need it to be for for Loufi to have the title of Yonko without fundamentally changing what it is to like go go or what is was is a Nico no each was three song co you know you don't want that so it's like yeah if you want Loufi to be a Yonko you need to have this fourth Yonko so unless you're gonna make drag in a pirate out of nowhere like what is the what is the fourth entity that would take up that top billing and buggy kind of position himself in the way that like I don't want to say the traditional pirate does but like he's wet from random bugger like what's the what's the word I'm like a four cabin boy to captain yeah to to bounid in fell down threat levels whatever to to warlord whether he earned it or not he didn't but like warlord and then from warlord to young like he had the come up that we saw happen life like I saw I saw buggy as next yonko a long time ago I asked the twins hilarious I said y'all listen he gonna fail upward it's what he do I feel like this is only a thing because all whatever refuses to put mehawk in shanks in the same lane that's literally all it is but yes the higher bounty he clearly has more influence like I feel you I feel you I feel you but in what world is mehawk actually like a yonko though I guess it's not how he operates it would be a it would be a start shift in his actual character dynamic in general and I don't think that's just an odor refusing to put mehawk in shanks in the same lane that's him not putting mehawk in a lane that just doesn't fit him as a character at all because y'all go isn't it like it's just not so then it's like okay realistically would I'll say realistically with mehawk if he's gonna be a y'all you would have any y'all they could have made mehawk a y'all at any point in time if they wanted to do that technically right now he was the warlord he was the warlord around he could he could have he could have been the only one that's both technically exactly and then I mean at this race it could have y'all like cock it up being a y'all go neither of that's what I'm saying that so so to be you know what the other avenue would have been making kids more important you know I'm saying like giving kid more relevance in this giving him a bigger crew that could actually compete on a y'all go level or somebody like ace still being a lot like those are your only avenues to still have the y'all go system as it is now I've never I've never gravitated to the oh kata curry could take over the big mom pirates that's never made sense to me maybe y'all call me a cat hater he if you were to insert cat into the y'all go system right now that would have made sense to y'all like nah and like nah and that's the other thing I think I mentioned on the pod once the the beauty of it is the y'all go that we have currently the ones that we have right now buggy luffy shanks black beard they are all the prototypical pirate in different ways in ways that we didn't have prior I love that personally I think Oda's goal has been to get to a more prototypical pirate space. So, all right. We'll move on, but buggy buggy for you. I don't, if he used to move up, I don't want pirate king. No, I would prefer we go to a celestial dragon. All the spots of the pie. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. Even if it's like that, I'm good. I'm good. I'm good on that. I'm good on that. I'm good on that. I'm good on that. Making my celestial dragon or something. I'm good on pirate king buggy. Another five from the Boulder. It says, have I ever thought to do a week characters, DDT or top 30 worst characters list? It would, I think it would cause some funny debates. Hashtag Larry tax. It's been discussed a few times. I've never put in any real effort into crafting a bracket or any sort of actual like stream where they're fighting one another. But I probably could, you know. I'm on first off of you. It would make for some interesting matchups. We had some interesting super chats that would be correlated to this like Usop versus a roachy recently. I've always thought Usop versus buggy would be a very interesting fight. I keep going to Usop because I think he's like the king of this sort of tournament. But I do think he'd be unfairly voted for if that makes sense. Like Usop would be the Zorro of a weak tier bracket where he's just getting votes he probably shouldn't get against people he probably shouldn't be. If that makes sense. It told me I know that hurts your heart to hear, but it's just what it is. It's a hundred percent true. I'm even talking to him. It's all right. You don't got to hear. No, no. I'm like, let's turn. Fuck you. No, I'll say it. Language, sir. I'll say it. I'll say it. I said, Usop would be treated the way Zorro gets treated in our standard DDT format where he gets voted on more than he probably should and wins matchups that he probably shouldn't win. Oh, no, there's all the Zorro stuff was the last to me. I only vote for Zorro because it's fun. Like, like, that Fulji DDT was complete jokes. It was. All right. Well, move on. Now the 35 months at warlords that is from the esterial Jack love and appreciate this pod. Thank you. Y'all helped me through some stuff. Seb, you need to check out slime. The lore in that series is so good. They another vote for slime, Twilight. Mother vote for someone. Yeah. Listen, I'm telling you. One day, listen, again, when the nicks are done playing, I'll, I'll be opened up to a whole lot more free time. A whole lot less stress will be on me, you know, or your back. So except those 76. I can do that. I can then in a summer. So we're in the summer. It'll take me a little bit, actually, so I mean, but I could do it. Apparently they try to tell me summer is all the way through like September 22nd. That's absolute nonsense. It's crazy. I think summer summer. I don't know. Listen, summer starts Memorial Day, and it ends August 31st or whatever day that is. September is not a summer. You're a logical. Yes. Nobody cares about the mere logical summer, man. Nobody cares about Zodilogicals, Sean, me, nobody cares. Okay. When are you cooking out and when are you going to the beach? That's when the summer starts. That is Memorial Day, May, June July. Yes. May, June July August August. Yeah. September 1st is not the summer. No. And based off what you're trying to tell me twilight September 20 seconds. No, no, absolutely. I was saying late September. I was saying late September like. Okay. So it's why like, how old are you? All this August. I'll be 30. Okay. So you're old enough to remember 9/11. Is that a summer activity to you? I didn't I didn't put it past eight. Didn't think so. We were all in school when that happened. Okay. It was not summertime. Anyway. There. There. We got another two from a fertile night, said, can Blackbeard and Kuzan be any Yonko in a 2v1? Yeah. I think they'd be every Yonko in a 2v1. That's two Yonko level five. Yeah. That's like two Yonko level one. Kido, big mom, chanks, they'd be all in them. Literally. Every single one of them. Yeah. All of them was basically not this one. What you got? I don't want to get to know. I'm so sad. I think that's cap cap. Who they losing to? Kido. Kido, specifically. I don't think they got to know. I don't know. I feel like I'll Kizzi by himself push Kado to like high do. I'm a I'm a disagree strong way on that one. Man. You sleeping on our Kizzi or you big Kado guys. I'm a big Kado guy. I agree. I agree with you, though. So we can push in it. Yeah. He pushed it to high do for sure. Wait. Wait. Wait. Wait. No. I'm tripping. There's some reason I was I was thinking. Kizaru. What it matter? I'm definitely. What it would it matter? I think it matters. I don't think because I was as strong as people think because I'm Blackbeard are being Kido. Because I think it's like I said, it's still it doesn't matter. It's what I'm saying. It doesn't matter. So that one one's under a bag what Blackbeard's out. I think it's like I think the only way they maybe lose as if it's like green boy or can I can I ask you to come on can I ask you something cast you something Twilight we say this right one Thunder Boggoa and Black wigs out has you ever seen Black we're getting knocked out that man has been hit by white beard he's been hit by I mean Luffy was weak back then he's been hit by San Goku why why do you guys listen I'm just saying the notion the notion that he would be knocked out I don't I don't see it bro I don't see it well I didn't even necessarily say knock out but I was saying out confession is that what that mean we go you know I get back up for a little bit like he he sat like look at him hey I hate bringing it up because it's technically anime only but I stand by the whole beppo thing like too long beppo oh my god Black here nonsense Twilight you're coming in choppy yeah continue I'll go over to different and then another two from Project Iceman it says made some jerk chicken and rice gonna be a good day oh man I've been craving Jamaican food recently there's a spot near me that has like a deal on uber eats and it's like a it's like buy one get one for free and yeah I give it a spot too for my house bro is it's not the absolute peak of Jamaican food in my area but the fact that I can get going get one free is like it's like a great deal and like the new card I got gets me like uber like benefits so I get like $20 or something stuff so I was like it was basically just free for me to get like four plates of Jamaican you know I mean need that I'll be I'll be I'll be I'll wait once a month I'll be I'll be while and I'll let it load I'll be like bet that time it's that time man it's that time does sound better yeah yeah it's better but there is like some something in the background like maybe have a fan on or something oh yeah no that'd be a fan it's like 94 degrees here okay all right let's get to the next caller I think sonnet was the next person who was up sonnet you there hello hey how's it going man how are you doing how are you doing I'm chilling man I'm chilling could to be back it's been about a month since we talked like this so glad to have you out here it's been a while it's been a while good day here for you what's going on man you have a question I want to yeah this time it's not going to be a theory but I want to I had an interesting topic okay it's about perspective okay in the world in the world of one piece so I'm just bear with me I'm going to get a little to the South Korea but I heard this quote from TikTok and it got me thinking and it says if good people can become cruel after enough pain and bad people can become kind after enough love now what actually separates good from evil so got to reminiscing and because we really think about it most people don't wake up believing they're developing they believe they justified they believe the world forced their hand and that and that's what makes characters in one piece so fascinating all that really writes people as purely evil you write some as products of pain desire ideology lineage fear and environment take though flamingo for example towards he is a monster a tyrant a manipulator who enslaved an entire country destroyed families corrupt the children and so on and so on but from his perspective the world betrayed him first being born a celestial dragon literally raised above humanity and suddenly his father strips it identity away because he believes humans a celestial dragon should live equally sounds noble right except the world didn't reward that morality the civilians tortured them beat them hung them though flamingo watches mother die in poverty a watches father feel to protect them now he is the interesting and important part his brother rose in unté experience the same suffering and became compassionate well though flamingo experience experienced experience it and became hateful and that destroys the simplistic idea that trauma automatically creates evil because two people can be it from the same wound and become completely different monsters or completely different saints so what separates good from evil then maybe it's not suffering itself maybe it's what you choose to worship after suffering though flamingo worship control power superiority he concluded that the world is fundamentally cruel so the only winning move is to stand above everyone else his philosophy his philosophy is basically the strongest side with justice is and honestly the terrifying thing is he isn't entirely entirely wrong in the world of one piece the world government hides genocides marie's protect corruption depending on politics pirates terrorize innocents who are calling to sell three justice changes depending on who holds the power and though flamingo didn't invent hypocrisy he simply embraced it and that's why the family let me rephrase that that's why don't he hold the family follows him with absolute loyalty to them he saved them gave them purpose protected them characters like baby five or senior pink don't see a devil the see a man who accepted accepted them with society society discarded them and perspective changes morality dramatically it's the same man different choose and maybe that's the uncomfortable reality odour keeps hinting at good and evil are real but human beings almost never fit perfectly into either category because a person can commit evil or still loving deeply a person can fight for justice while doing horrific things a person can be broken by the world and still be responsible for what they become and that last part matters because understanding though flamingo is not the same as excusing it and a lot of people people confuse and patty with justification to think if you explain the villain's pain you're defending the actions but now understanding why someone become monstrous doesn't erase the suffering the cost it just makes tragedy more human and to be honest that sort of makes though flamingo one of the greatest feelings in my opinion and that's not because he's pure evil but because there's enough humanity in him to make his evil believable that was very yeah that was very well put sonnet is when you originally pose the the perspective on good and evil in the series my mind immediately with the dopamine going not just his speech but his story as a whole and when you go and roast anante as like another focal point of the you're talking point I'm like okay he's hitting it all he's hitting all the things that I was thinking so that was great that was very well put um I think I've said it before dopamine goes my favorite character in the series because I do think he's perfectly written not just in terms of what he represents in the story not just because of the threat level that he pose at the time being that middleman being that basically gatekeeper to all the true chaos that could take place in the one piece world if he's removed I kind of love him for that but because of all the things you brought out with this perspective not only is he like a heraldor of the times to notet a change he's also aware of his place he's aware of his choices you know like actively says hey like people who know peace and people who know war have different values and he seeing both chooses which values that he goes towards depending on the situation and he's also a hypocrite uh which I think a lot of people don't highlight a lot which you kind of did here as well so no I really do love that you use care uh don't flamingo for your case study here I think it was perfect then in general in terms of what makes a person good or what makes a person evil to me it's about choice most people will be faced with choices it's a joke that I have with my lady about people make choices every day it's a vague and blanket statement but it's a true statement people do make choices every single day and those choices kind of determine who you are and what you'll be like whether you can be considered good evil somewhere in between um I think we all live in that in between nine times out of 10 and then we typically make the choice that makes us good but on any day You can make the evil choice, you know what I mean, and some people like don't for me go make it more often than not so But yeah, I thought that was very well put then I really did like that. Yeah, I appreciate it, but It goes way deeper than I can Explain because it's the same question like what makes someone so long good and what makes someone evil? It's also perspective If you are born with a family of thieves, you think stealing is the right thing to do But if you're noble, you think the thieves are the bad guy and so on and so on It's an interesting topic that I wanted to bring out No, I think I was really good and like I said I think you use the perfect character for your case study If anything, I'd like you to do the same case studies with some of the other more evil Less nuanced characters to see if you come up with a different Perspective as it were Sonnet, I'll let you go. I got to get to the rest of these callers, but you have a good night Of course, man, have a good night, y'all YouTube That was fine. Right. I thought that was so heat. I know I'm the dofie glazer of the group, but like that's my guy All right, another five from Sir Alex, it doesn't give me the rest of the name. So sorry sir Alex the second the second. Thank you It says top and top staff slash mods if you made a one piece basketball starting five Who are you putting in each position? Okay, you have to go with Lucy point got it. Yeah, Luffy at point Shooting guard should be a sniper, but I don't know if I want to put Van auger at the two Twilight you got something going on, man. I'm gonna need you to meet up. I'm not gonna Yeah, Toby let me think about a shooter. I think Kyle's the perfect power for it And then you need to get somebody bigger than him to be your center So probably like Harold and Loki. I was gonna go Harold, but I feel like Loki works. You know, I'm saying More versatile Loki's definitely bigger than hell top. Yeah, I way bigger. I just need a bigger than kaito in terms of who could be the center Kaito is a little bit everything. Okay, so if Luffy's the point we got Kaito at the power for Loki at the center You're saying small for a shooting guard or left so I mean right now then I'll do Might have to beat us then now maybe Ben maybe Ben is shooting guard Hmm, you need a vet you need a vet you need a vet then yeah veteran shooter Yeah, knows his role. You know, I'm saying No, maybe I don't know I mean, we take it y'all stop over Ben. No, as a shooter. I think we are man From deep. Yeah, he got the range. He got the range. I think we are Um, all right, small for it all right, we need a small for it, bro Small for Neversatility I want to say Duffy some size. Oh, okay Because he he a little versatile, you know, he doing a little bit of everything. He's smart Okay, he's strong He's taller. He's of the of the higher heights. He's not too tall. Yeah You know, there's too many conquerors on one starting lineup men's like four conquerors on here. Oh, yeah We got who we got Pato Duffy Luffy and Loki's confirm See, I thought about putting law at point and putting Luffy at the shooting guard Oh, how did I miss that? I'm a log guy. He's in a he's an assist support. You know, I'm saying But then if you have that if you have law, then you definitely can't put Duffy at the small for it. So we got to switch that up Um, I might take law Okay, I'm taking a small point It's law of point Luffy at two small for it We still need a shooter though, so we might still gotta go y'all still gotta go y'all so about the three He's out of position. Yeah, and then yo Pato and Loki holding the pain down. I don't think he's got a worry about that Yeah, I think they got it and Kato is fast. You're looking No, I'm gonna say shanks at the small for it. Well, I don't know if that works Mm-hmm. I thought that's three. You got three point guards at that point Yeah We need a shooter to balance it out. Who the LeBron of this thing, man? Who would be LeBron? I feel like Duffy would have been a I think Kato Would have been in LeBron, but he's just a pal. He's just a big though Mm-hmm cuz Kato LeBron are both like super dominant versus the tile They say kidding chat now. I don't know about kidding chat. I guess y'all stop in small for we just have a shooter at small for it man, you know Yeah, we got to tell us y'all saw man, that's the question Yeah, I thought he not that much taller than long thing I think he taught in lobby y'all, so I'm not taller. I don't think we already got a pretty six foot Yeah, so that's a little small for for for a small for a really we got See, I was gonna go who should be the coach and I was gonna go really the coach. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I feel like Ray will be the best coach because he already done taught Luffy God is blind Mm-hmm. See, I was going with people who was still alive. Okay, but he came over with both of the last that he came over really am good How key do you have the small for oh Yeah, key G is tall. Oh, we can do cuz we can do cuz are you a shooter? Got speed Dupuff as yeah, and he's not an ego You could sit back and chill Yeah, he's shooter. He can shoot from range. He got speed on defense Yeah My gotta go cuz I go See, I was thinking I was I was about to go real crazy and go like cool mud to small forward man, but I don't know if he the shooter we need I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna keep it with I'm gonna keep it with a I'm gonna keep what cuz I wrote man I so miss a lot of the point Luffy at the shooting guard Cuz I wrote the three kind of at the for Loki at the five Yeah, that's a crazy line up. That's a line. Did we cook that? Did we cook bro? I think we cook. Yeah One arm sinks his wall Yeah, we can't get shanks in my brain. I can't shoot bad Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, be alive. We can't go left Lobbility Yeah, liability Shanks they see a minute on this court Yeah, I know Get him out of it Hmm, he got to be he got to be like the charming way of coaches For the NBA people we not landing on the on the on the basketball team Saunji and shanks man. They lie abilities, bro. Can't happen Watch taunji if you see a girl Can't play with his hands, man. What are you doing you can't kick the ball, bro I feel like the baddies would throw him off anyways. Yeah, he can't control himself No, bro. I thought about Yamato at the at the at the the small forward Hmm, but I don't know if she's shooting for him. I'm gonna keep Kazaro there. Yeah Yeah, cuz I might be the perfect small forward All right I appreciate all of the stars and jewels you guys are sending as well. They don't let me track that the same Uh, but thank you. I do see them coming in All right, let's get Diamond in here. I know. I think loose dog was next actually Yeah Loose you there What's up? Hey, how's it going, man? I'm not just hanging out I perfect. Talk to me, man. You have a question comment emotional outburst Or Terry what's up? Uh, I guess I got a question for you, but it's about kingdom. Okay, so potential spoilers for Anime only I guess how deep in the kingdom man. I'm all the way caught up then not that not that caught up We're talking like 800s. I want to say chapter 800 maybe That's pretty deep, bro. Hold on 20. I was almost that's almost caught up. It's why I like that I was on sale like I don't want to spoil. I but I want to ask about Conkey. I thought I was forward. Okay I just want to ask one second one second spoilers for kingdom people out here who haven't been caught up We bought the bee spoiling Chapter 800 something and on so if you don't know what happens after chapter 800 something You know mute up Skip this part of the stream because I got roasted first kingdom spoilers A little bit ago. Yeah, so sorry. I don't want anyone potential. Yeah, I don't want All right, so I just want to ask ask what your opinion on Conkey is, 'cause I don't think I've heard it. I think he's a very controversial character in the series, and so I'm curious your take. - I absolutely love Conkey. He's one of my favorite characters in all of manga history. Love that guy. - I'm so disappointed in you. - I know you are. I don't care. - I feel like I was kind of somewhat expecting this 'cause it's like, I mean, the series wants you to like him at the end of his, you know-- - I liked him before that. That didn't matter. That could have never-- - Before that. - That could have never happened, and I would have been, I was Conkey gang from day one. Okay? - You just like that sort of like character, that sort of just pure villain, but he's, you know, objectively like an amazing general. - Yeah, to me, to me, in the warring states of China, I don't wanna say everything goes 'cause Conkey was allowed some really diabolical stuff to go down. - Yeah. - I'm not gonna lie. He was, I don't know, agree with all that. But, as a general, as a commander of men, and as somebody who needed to get stuff done for Shin and his kingdom to go further to where they needed the heights they need to reach, they would not have done it without Conkey. I don't care what y'all say. It wouldn't have gone down. They wouldn't have took, they wouldn't have survived the battle of Kanyeo. They wouldn't have survived the battle against Olsen. I mean, I'm a, oh my god, who was it, I can't remember who it was. Either way, Rocky, bro, clutch. - I agree. - The series, I mean, the series highlights that. Like, we have Shin's strategist. I'm forgetting the names right now. But she even says, like, the amount of soldiers' lives, we like, saved with this fight, like, saved the war effort. And so, like, that was a big line. And also, like, the big scene that stuck with me was that after Conkey's passing when Maroon, his, like, general talks to Shin, is, like, you seem the most upset. It's like having your main character who's so awesome, sympathize with someone who's, like, objectively, one of the worst people in the series is such a-- - Yeah, it's so beautiful. - It's such a trip, it's such a trip. 'Cause it's like, I'm experiencing with him almost, where it's like, it's so, that's why I love also Conkey's character. I don't know if I love Conkey as a person, but-- - Oh, my goat, bro, I love Conkey. Plus, wait, I'm a dolphin mingle guy. You knew I was gonna love Conkey, so-- - Yeah, that's kind of why I was like-- - To me, even just the conversation that he has with say, is everything I needed, like, he's like, "Yo, you're a hypocrite." Everything you're assigned, everything you're trying to do, you're relying on people like me. You knew the battle tactics that I would use to get you where you need to go. You knew that before you sent me out here. So don't get on your high horse when I violate in ways that you don't like. Again, he was wiling. I'm not gonna say he wasn't wiling. - See, that's the one thing I would give Conkey is, the fact that he was never like-- He stood 10 toes on everything he did. - Everything. - He never felt bad. Like, he knew what he had to do and he did it. - But-- - And-- - And-- - And-- - And above all of that, he knew the risk he was taking with the maneuvers that he made in that war and still made them. Come on, man. That's the one thing Dofi would never have done. And that's what separates him, man. That's my guy. - I do. - That's my goal. I love me so talking, man. - I love his character. I think some of the moments, the show-- I mean, the series is so beautifully written that like you see like smart characters like being smart. I think his, some of his like him, yeah, some of Conkey's moments are the best. And so I'm not surprised that he's one of your favorite characters. I am surprised by how hard you've gone for him. - Oh, that's my guy. - Because I have a look. I was expecting at least a little shame, 'cause you know that. - No, no shame. Absolutely no shame, but I stand 10 toes on Conkey Glaze. I've been arguing about Conkey versus these other generals for years now. I love Conkey, bro. - Love that guy. - Conkey. - What did I say? - Where are you from? - Inside a cure. - And I was gonna say, just out of curiosity. Conkey or toe? - Conkey, but I love toe too. - Yeah. - I do. - That's crazy. - That's crazy. - Conkey's gonna win, is good. - Toe is my guy. Listen, put this away, put this away. We don't see a lot from toe. And in terms of if they were to actually get into a battle against one another, I'd probably go toe winning. But, I think Conkey's a superior battle strategist in terms of maneuvering. I think toe is a significantly better fighter. - Yeah, I'm gonna say. - Just oaky, oaky, the series has definitely highlighted that Conkey is on par with that heavenly great generals. And toe isn't, and so it's like, it's just, Conkey gonna get it done. I think I'm gonna do that. - And then in terms of how they're written, toe honestly, he'd be so few and far between relevant and then like, he'll do his big one. And then it's like, I, like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's not, he just don't be involved, man. - No, that's why Wanda initially asked Conkey or Oaky, but yeah. - In terms of my favorite, Conkey, but Oaky's the goat. Like, let's not play, let's not play around. - Um, I was gonna say, for me, I gotta ask you loose. How do you, Rubikou? - Oh, I fucking, oh sorry. - Sorry. - Sorry, sorry, that was, that was a little primal there. I hate him. - Yeah. - Oh, my god. - There's a clip, there's a clip of Sam. - Sorry, instantly dropping a b-bomb. - Dude, I think Sam and the king, the King of Zao is the most despicable person in the series. I think more than Conkey, for sure, just in every sort of way. And the fact that we, he just goes so hard to, I just, yeah, I can't. - Bro, he's, if you, if they wanted us to like Rubikou, all they need to do is have him clip the Zhao King. I'd have been, all right, that's my guy. I messed with him. The fact that he let this all just happen, and he's like, well, for the greater good of a shot. Shut up. Shut up. - So people in his bank are like, yo, we should like, we should over throw him. And he's like, guys, that's ridiculous. So I'm like, we need to just ridiculous. - And he also fun for what he did to Alky, man. He saw. - Damn. - Saw this how? - Wait, it's, oh, sorry. - Oh, no, you're fine. I was just gonna ask, who's your favorite character in Kingdom? - Oh, man. I mean, it's, it's, it's easy to station. I mean, it's just moments, I think, with the best in the series just by far. But if I were to give it to like a little side character underdog kind of man, probably it's a bit of a underdog, but I think it's like a co-racoo. It's like the guy with the weird face, he's in the spear guy's army, and he always just kind of shows up. - Oh, I know you're talking about. - Yeah. - He always shows up. It's like the right time, and he frigging does this thing. I don't know why his character design is funny. I think his character's funny. He's gonna be like, he's gonna, y'all just wins. I don't know, what's up with that? - Twilight, I'm gonna tell you who my favorite character in Kingdom is, and it's not cocky. I know most people would think it is basically how it's capable for him. It's Shohei Koon from the, - Oh, he's the stripper. - The stripper, the strategist. That's a good pick. - That's my guy, bro. I feel like every time he stuns, the world changes. - No, not a valid. After him, it's cocky, and I'm a villain guy. I love Olsen, as well. Shin is in there, but I'm a villain guy. I loved Ryofui. I did. He wasn't strong. He wasn't essentially anything, but he was such a strategist in terms of the money, and he really challenged Sai's entire philosophy, and he's still out there. - Yeah. - No, I'm still out there. - I respect that. See, if I had to go villain, oddly enough, 'cause I'm not fully caught up, but I don't know why. I feel like Karen's gonna go the distance. - Oh God, no. - I don't like Karen, but stop. Throw the shout out to the mountain queen. I think the mountain. - Yo, yo, yo, yo, yo, ton was, yo, ton was my favorite. That's what I was just about to say. Yo, ton was my favorite character. Hands down. - Ton was in her girl. Yo, ton was in her boy, I mean. Biogeo, but I'm a biogeo, I don't remember what his name is. - Yo, Ton was in a biogeo. - Anytime they're on panel, they're gonna show out. - I'm also a big Ohan guy. I feel like most people crap on Ohan, I like Ohan, man. I like Ohan. I also like Neji, though. So I guess it's the same, it's like the same character. - Yeah. - You're not wrong. Shout out to Kingdom for getting the rivalries right, man. - I love Kingdom. It's heating up 100% recommend catching up. - I got to catch up. My brother just hit me like two weeks ago, like it's time to catch up. - I'm like, you're the best. - I'm like, you gotta do a tour. - Avoid spoilers. - Just tell me this, just tell me this, man. Just tell me this. Has Shiba show showing out yet? This guy's been the most hype. He's been the most hype. They aren't the curly locks. He's been the most hype general ever He keep bringing them up. He doesn't do anything. Okay. He he got a moment that I off the top my head He got a moment that I I am understanding why he's hyped But otherwise I'm also I for one I hate his character design. I think he looks weird But he's I mean He's just another one of revoke who's right that he just he could just I know where and it's for a hundred great generals I don't know where I can't sponsor. Oh my god. It's the greatest general of all time But he's just been hiding away, but revoke gave him like a steak sandwich or something And now he's fighting for and it's like oh yeah, he's just I'm not even General. Yeah, I'm not even caught up, but I get I get exactly what you're what you guys mean by that now like I can't yeah, I can't tell how many times already I've seen just oh this generals unheard of and there's never been seen but he's so great I can't say I can't say what? Jow has been in like 700 wars. Where are these people coming out of the woodwork from man? Like come on and they all have this random undying loyalty to people like there's no chance. There's this little it's a little moment But it actually had me so pressed when revoke who was freed the second and When he was released they released all of these generals that the zao king put away for defying him and it's like 12 Buff super generals and like zao's great again. I'm like this is what is happening? I think that's exactly where I'm at right now Revoke just revoke who just finds these dudes. I got I don't know. He finds a way Like I'm from I've been arguing about the overratedness of rebuco for years now, bro. He's so overrated to me. He's a genius. I give him all that Yes, he he can't he can't he's black but he refused to fight without the absolute deck stacked where it's like hey I have a four to one numbers advantage terrain advantage He sources advantage. Yeah, and he still finds ways to get advantage. It's like oh my god, and he still loses. I can't stand that dude, bro And he's so fake. He's so fake like righteous. I can't stand him, bro. I really can't He supports the most despicable like some of the panels that like just the zao king is in like rings in my head with how like despicable the stuff is going Bro, he'd be in that room, man. Yeah That happened oh my god. I'm not gonna talk about Conkey All right, okay, okay. No, see that's that's two different diabolicals dog like Conkey's in like top five Conkey is making banners. Hey, man. Hey, man. You guys still feel some children. You got to instill fear sometimes, okay Listen, guys baddest Conkey. I do not wrong. Mm-hmm. Top button. Okay, okay, no. I had nothing my face stretch That's like saying. It's like saying Griffin did nothing wrong. No, that's crazy Griffin was Waller Yeah, like Griffin was absolutely Waller. Griffin was doing worse than that than zao king, man Ah, maybe maybe not but still yeah, I was gonna say Depends on who you ask. It's just yeah, I guess it's a we won't get into that. Yeah I do have a little bit of a topic switch before I like I leave y'all I'm gonna get a little hate from the community here because I've let I've watched it and read it But I personally would not recommend that time I reincarnated into a slime. Oh, that is that is that is That is dirty. I like it. It's fine, but I think it falls Prope it has tropes that are some of the worst anime tropes ever It's got one of those Thousand-year-old Fourteen-year-old looking girl characters that just like shows up every once in a while It's a bit about uh Miriam millum. Yeah. Miriam Miriams kind of crazy Uh, I'll give you that. So it's like it's a bit you know I can't exactly wholeheartedly recommend the show with that sort of character existant and It's a bit more, you know, it's a bit of a fan service show. I think it's good. Oh, okay Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna disagree with you on that. I'm gonna disagree with you on that. You're a full disagree on She on okay Somewhat she you even said it she on the elf pity bar Okay, that was like Teddy bars like episode by go like twice. Okay, I say go like twice Okay, well, I will say when Larry when Larry was recommending it or bringing up this uh this elf stuff As far as like finding the love of your life or like the one or whatever it was I was like so they just had like a brothel Like that's that's what we're doing and I don't know how often they frequent this brothel But they they it's not frequent at all okay at all Oh look all all still all say slime's got some great moments I think it's system is pretty fun to watch. It's fun to cool one to see I think The world is pretty cool some of the characters are pretty cool, but I've just I've seen a lot of you got to see it. You got to see it. I don't think it's a you got to see it show Or much less a read I think there's better reads and shows But I do that. Yeah, it's got I mean Miriam puts it down like whatever you're thinking This character is pretty crazy. I think the fan service does exist. It's a bit of a fan service theme show And that's just my see I see that I think the reason I am so like it's not a fan service show like to and Really even mentionable degree is cuz I've also come from high school dxd high school the dead oh man like Like actual fan service shows I just it's a show it's just like it's a show that would have like a beach episode Like a lot of shows have like a beach episode or like a pool episode But it's just one of those kind of shows you can pull off a pool or beach episode as long as somebody dies at the end. They did that in jjk Yeah, like I think like that's what I say like anime tropes exist throughout all anime and you could do it right or wrong I think that time I reincarnated into a slime. I mean the title itself is a bit of a giveaway It leans into tropes. It's like it's one of those kind of shows And I like I'm not saying it's bad like everyone loves those kind I mean I like it I like so leveling. I like all that kind of stuff but I just seen a lot of people cape and for it and I just it didn't sit by me and so I had to step up I recommend gachi akuda got you akuda is a good read or a good watch it was That's it for me. I think I'm taking up a bit of time here. Yeah, Loose. We'll have to drop you there You and Twilight will probably have beef for as long as you know, but no, I'm sure I respect. I respect you. I respect. No miracle. I think miracle D-mail might kill me. I've seen him. Yeah, that one might be mine. He might. Yeah, I'm sorry. I apologize now Let's be friends. Please. Otherwise Peace to y'all. Thank you for your time. Peace out, Loose. Peace, peace. How you feeling Twilight? I would not legitimately. I do respect opinions on it like I just saying it's fan service and putting it down for millum alone. I'm like Okay so much more so much more. All right. We got another five from David Yokes. It says It might be Davy Dokes. Now that I think about it. Anyway, uh Daemon of the Shadow Realm or Shangri-La frontier over the time of year incarnate I got reincarnated as a slime 1,000 percent. I heard Daemon is uh me Me and Davy got beef now. Okay. Me and Davy got beef now for that. I heard Daemon is um Is it made by the same people who made uh full metal? Full metal. Yep. Yep. Same Monica. Same Monica's Uh new manga It's it's a good time. I heard good things about it. But I also, you know Shangri-La a seat and a seat. I haven't heard nothing about Shangri-La frontier. I gotta give him I gotta give him I gotta give him some like I would honestly probably also Suggest Shangri-La over reincarnated Okay At the time, but that's just because I I read the manga and I know it's coming up in the next season and this next season is about to be absolute peak Right off the rip All right, think of Shangri-La's think of a sword art online only. It's not a death game like where they're locked into it Like you just freely goes into an MMO and can leave whenever Yeah, I'll be mentioning these anime like I've seen them You've never seen sword art online. I'm about familiar with it. I've never seen it. I didn't even know it was a death game It's it's a death game in the first half of season one they go into the game and they end up getting locked into the MMO Where and if you die in the MMO your real body is killed in real life Okay Okay All right, let's get the next caller in here. I believe diamond was next Diamond you there I don't know. Hey, man, how's it going? Chillin, man. Chillin. It's been like a month, bro. Sorry for the delay. Oh, good. Hey, what's up, Toby? What's up, Twilight? My favorite store runners? No, no, no, no, no, I still haven't got my cheery pasty in Slim Jim Dog. Yeah, Toby, I'm leading on my angle every zone in my hot fries, bro. Where they at? Yo, I'm gonna go get the hot fries and I'm not gonna get the mango. I'm gonna get a coat and I'm gonna eat it right in front of me. Yo, the mango air is on me. That's great. Yeah, go, you gotta go green tea. I've never tried green tea. Mango air is on a different bro. Yeah, maybe Arizona does go hard though, too. I like mango, but the drinks be told me all. You got to have a mango milkshake. Yeah, you got to have a mango milkshake from a Dominican salty. Make a milkshake. They never try that. Change your life. Yeah, got to be Dominican though. Got it. What was I going to say now? I was, you know. You guys mentioned that school in CD group. And I just want to find out y'all seeing. You say jogging the drive. That's like. Off to an anime transformation. We all never seen it, bro. Who? I don't know, they. But you say he the see for high school GD. No, bro. Oh, you say. Yeah, when, when I'm, I mean, I'm a spoiler could have been out for like 10 plus years, but like. I doubt subs ever watch it. I'm not going to lie. Yeah, I feel like that. It looks like Ben 10, bro. Is that what you talking about? No. No, but like pretty much he does a cool transformation that's kind of underrated, because it is going to be an anime. Oh, here's his, yeah. Oh, the way you worded that. Is it not right? I'm not going to share code it. Is it not like a. It's a full red body transformation. Yeah, he's got the white shirt. Yeah, but, um. Yeah, but what I was going to ask is, um. I tried reading corrosive, but I think I started with the wrong series in the first. And it was about characters that I never introduced to, but like I read the Korean one and I'm pretty sure every like bully mom. I'm just going to ask like what type of like archetype for a character is your favorite in those is it like the. The weak MC, which trains over time, is it the pretty like you know, the person disciplined and like when martial art like box a kind of. Someone was like abnormally like strong or fast like what type of character is usually like lean towards. Okay, so this is a great question. Um, and you were coming in a little choppy for me. Yeah, I was like, I was like, I don't know who I was who. Okay, I'll ping you with just a lot of pompay going on. Yeah, I'll. I'll ping you and chat to direct you in the right direction, but in terms of what my favorite character is in that specific type of city. It's one of two characters. It's either one. Um, the super strong right hand. So strong enough to detect others similar to a Zorro, but not strong enough to be the head, not strong enough to be like the guy. Um, that's a great question. So strong enough to detect others similar to a Zorro, but not strong enough to be the head, not strong enough to be the guy. Um, or it's the strategic vice head, who's like strong enough to command respect, but not strong enough to lead, but also has like the brains to kind of move the operation forward. It's the insert random, strong guy from out of town. So like, it's like, yo, we have these established characters that are match strong. And then we're kind of going on about our business and then the new year happens and then another character comes in and he's kind of just like a transfer. He doesn't know anything about anything, and he kind of wrecks the hierarchy of the world. So like, I know I presented you with three different, but yeah, that was that the strong outsider guy. I'm sure you may have heard of it, but like that's like the one of the main like Korean ones that I've read is that I'm like, I'll cut up because there's like a bunch of characters that are like, have different, um, like fighting those or like abilities. And follow up to that question would be like, let's assume that, you know, the top like hosts and Mar like all our cake, the king of the school. And then you are Larry Lino and Lawrence are like the four Heavenly Kings by what type of characters would they be like the types. What would their fighting styles be? Well, we're the so like how strong. Yeah, this this this has come up before. And the twins will they'll beat the crap out of me for this. But I genuinely think we already have archetypes in the versus already if you're ever able to get through all of crows. Larry's the main character he's value. I would be his best friend Bulldog, who is like the charismatic one that draws all the people to him, even though he doesn't necessarily think he's like worthy of the phrase or the following. But is looked at in a different light from like everybody else is perspective. The twins. There's two characters that are like best friends in the show that are underneath Bulldog that constantly fight each other and constantly fight other people. They're just not that strong and they're kind of goofy, but they win their fights more often than not. That's the twins because they're always arguing if fighting and they'll they'll they'll they'll probably kill me for that. But they also fit as Reution and Beto who are also just rivals among that four Kings era where it was valuable dog Reution and Beto. That's for who is who couldn't call it in terms of where we would all be if we were on the same team. Man, it would have to be closer to a gang than a school. Lawrence. Oh, man, Larry would. Oh, man. I really don't know how to explain this. I don't know that we fit enough into that. Because it needs to be a guardian. It needs to be a vice head. There needs to be a leader and then needs to be like the younger prospect and or the flying column. Larry would be the flying column who's basically not exactly scout team, but he's like he's going to he's the shit stuff off guy. We need to start beef. We're going to start this war up. We need somebody to spark it. He's that. He's the advanced team. Okay. Yeah, he'd be the advanced team. Lionel would be the guardian. He would be the heavy hitter who doesn't have to fight often, but when he fights, he has to win. Lawrence would be the head. And I would be the vice head or vice versa. It would be an interesting dynamic there where we kind of argue a lot. That's not common in those types of shows, but they it does happen every so often where the vice head and head kind of but heads, but when they're united, they kind of get stuff done. That's kind of that's where I would go. Maybe the flying column kind of spark stuff, advanced squad, Lionel would be the guardian kind of silent doesn't fight often, but has to win. And then me and Lawrence would alternate between who's the head and stop ahead. Yeah, I hope that works. Yeah, what type of fighting style to like. Yeah, we had to have an individual. Okay. So based off of how they fight currently, Larry's a wild card. I've seen Larry fight. I've seen Larry box. I've seen Larry. I've seen Larry hit people with two by fours before Larry's just kind of all over the place. Lawrence and Lionel are boxers. Lawrence has dabbled more into more like judo or Taikwondo and stuff. Lionel's a boxer through and through. He is going to be body shots. And y'all might not know this, but I choke people. It's my thing. It's how I win. You know, I'm a strangler. I didn't style, but I mean, I guess the submission. So the mission, listen, listen, bro. I used to fight the twins. They used to beat me up. My best chance was going for the throat. I used to throat chop. I used to grab. I used to squeeze the apples out. You just fight, you just fight dirty. Yeah. So that was my best avenue to success. And it stuck with me. So like, don't, if you fight me, I'm going for the throat. And going for the weak points. Yeah. That's just how it is, bro. Other than that, I do have a mean body shot. Epo taught me that. I do a whole like step in and turn and swing that way. I kind of get you upright in here between like the stomach and the rib. Like, I kind of get right there. I know how to aim for that. And if that doesn't work, I go for the throat. Yeah, yeah, you got to get on that more. I could teach you things. I also fight lefty. So I lead with my right hand this way. But it's really just to get a power jab in. And then I had to learn how to throw like a sweeping left hook to make up for that. But that was, that was back when he used to fight a lot, man, it used to be a lot more fighting in the group. And you got to do what it takes to win a little. I remember because it was bullying me or other tackle them and I kicked them straight in the head. He still has that scar until this day. Hey, man, whatever it takes. Yeah, like, I don't know if you already got a high school. There's a quote in there that like stuff with me is like, by hook or by crook, you have to win the fight. Exactly. They're going to care how you want. You just got to win. Exactly. And also, I just want to be like, say I agree with you on the Nami Zeus, like Loki, Ragnar wins. Like it's not both of their wins is a, you know, like individual wins, so it'd be like a Nami win. And it'd be a Loki one because like, in that case, within Zoro wins, just be him and Enma. Who know what I mean? All right, I'm going to drop you there. I'll ping you about where to start crows. All right. For sure. All right. But. Bro, if that's here, have you, have you watched win breakers yet, so yeah, well, I started it, but I haven't watched it. I'm sorry, with your, with your favorite type of main character, that'd be right up your alley. It's not going to be love to spar with me, bro. Don't fight me, man. My fighting days are over. Okay. I'm not a fighter anymore. I'll do that. Here. Here and how you fight. Hashtag of throat is a throat makes a lot more sense now. Hey, man. I'll do what you got to do to win the fight. Uh, we got two from way the Asian. It says mega Arizona's go hard. 100. Yeah, they do, man. I'm going to get one later today. I mean, more. And then another five from way the Asian, I want to try to get a call in today, which channel do I join? All right. Wait, I don't know if you are a, um, server member, but you did donate five. So just join any one of those VCs, and I'll probably just drag you up if we have time. All right, next, let's get a judgment D Reaper in here. It was next up. Reaper. You there? Right. Yeah. One. How's it going? Do it in the night. Chill, man. Chill in. How you been? Oh, busy. I'm not worried. Oh, I don't get a boss. I've been on screen. So I'm not. We good. I think I got it. I got a lot of theories. OK, hit me, ma. All right, you got a name I call it ocean ablaze, although it's got nothing to do with the actual theory. You said, ocean ablaze, ocean ablaze, yeah, ocean ablaze. It's just a cool title I thought of. I don't know. I'm sorry, no, I'm becoming more and more convinced that what's on left tell is the mother flamed itself. What if Roger didn't only find the story, but understanding? He found resolve and proof that he was part of a bigger plan. What if Joy Boy didn't just lose to you? What if I told you that he took something? Important. What I'm about to say is very speculative, but I feel like it's very narratively possible. I think the reason Emu seems to be in pain and can't function fully out of the holy land is because Joy Boy took the mother flamed from them. I don't think Emu commissioned Vega Plunk to reproduce an ancient legendary power to commission him to recreate the power that Emu once held. The ancient weapons are powered using the mother flamed. We know this. Yes. But what about that makes sense? We're told that the mother flamed is an infinite energy source. Why limit would it can power? I believe that the sea shanty being sake is a retelling of a pirate crew that began his journey to deliver a drink, maybe for diplomacy, maybe a gift, or maybe it's used in place of a party or joy, like delivering freedom to other people. Whatever the case may be, if that's Joy Boy's crew and Emu was a member of that crew, I would assume that he gained knowledge and inside alongside them and whatever they disagreed with fundamentally. As we see in the moment where Emu shouts, "Isn't that right, Joy Boy?" and they have a flashback. They had some falling out, some disagreement fundamentally because they seem to have a very close relationship. Okay. So, he called the separation, but I think that they fought way, way later than most people realized Emu separated from Joy Boy and in his loan travels, he gained allies and I believe he found the mother flamed. I believe that he forwards an unnatural bond with it and used its power to rampage, you know, sinking right into the level of the water, ever so slightly over and over again. You know, okay. I think that if an opi-opi-nomi-user granted Emu immortality, then it were forced to do so. In the massive war, they, being the opi-user, I believe they severed Emu's connection to the flamed as a last ditch effort to defeat the newly crowned demon lord of the blue planet. Emu won, but I believe Joy Boy took the mother flamed itself back to the place they began. If being sake is a retelling of their journey, then I believe it will be poetic if the final island is the place where their journey started. And that's where the thing, and that's where the thing that Emu truly wants is out. Roger found the full story of the ancient world. I personally think it would be funny if it was just the song being sake, but for the sake of the theory, what's there alongside the story is the flamed, hidden in plain sight in a place that Emu may have forgotten about or even think that he illusioned like, you know, but Joy Boy protected it somehow, the same way that's been hidden from Emu and from everybody this entire time. The flamed being on Lafta would prove the story of Joy Boy to Roger's crew and would also be a hilarious lead down at first glance if they haven't read the story. They just see a rock and a fire where they go to low-star and who knows what they're told is on the final island, but seeing a rock and a fire must have been some kind of lead down. And it must have struck their funny bone, but on second glance, the truth is revealed and set the world as we know it in motion. That's all I got. The name "Ocean of Blaze" is because "Mu" from Emu means "Mu" with the mother flamed the fire "Ocean of Blaze" that's that's. No, I think that works in terms of, so in terms of the mother flamed being on Rafto, I like that a lot because the way Otis kind of frame this has made it seem as though everyone's after the one piece, not just the pirates, so I would like it if something that was on there is directly correlated to Emu and him getting stronger or accomplishing whatever goals that he wants to accomplish. So that can work narratively. You mentioned the Binks sake, I was trying to see or try to remember if there's a tie directly into potentially the mother flamed for that, or if that's maybe the reason why Roger was laughing or the crew was laughing, they've heard Binks sake a thousand times. This is actually a story of it, this is where it comes from. Um, so I thought that would be interesting, but I didn't, I didn't, I had to relook at the lyrics, trying to find a direct tie into the mother flame itself. I can't find one. Yeah. Um, which, I mean, I don't think you need that to be obvious, you know, I'm like, Oh, it can always paint that in there in whatever way. Um, I like it. I do. I'm trying to think how, if I would like the, oh, it's a rock and a flame, like that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got what you mean. I just, I didn't like how you minimize, but technically, in the technical sense, like that's what you're seeing. If it's a ponycliffe with the true history and this flame, but if the flame is like never extinguishing, like, what do you do with that? Like, oh, right. It would also, like, be a solid answer to like why Rayleigh phrase what he said in the beginning, where it's like, you guys will have to make a choice, right? Like you're, yeah, what you get there. Exactly. They saw the mother flame. They had the prophecy and said, okay, we're going to make sure the next person gets there when they're more equipped when the time is right, right? And then they'll have to make a choice. I find it interesting that the mother flame could be that choice could be, oh, it's like giving me fall out three vibes. It's like, you have. But I also feel like, yeah. Because if, because it's a ponycliffe, I feel like also joyboy could hear it, maybe sing the song to joy to, to, to rob you or something. I don't know. The worst of all things might have just, it might have not just been the rock there. It might have actually told him the story. I don't know. Well, that's how it's working on this for like two days. You didn't take too long. I'm just thinking about something. Mr. all boys for real. Yeah, man. Well, glad we're back. See, now you got me thinking of all the different possibilities with the bink sake potentially being evolved in this. Like, what if the ponycliffe is a music box? And that takes me back to white collar where the music box was like the biggest mcguffin in the world. But that's a whole other thing. I'll, I'll save y'all. Not interesting. Interesting. I'm really, I'm really curious about like Brooks flashbacks tie into Elbaph's lore. Like how it'll be relevant. But yeah, tell me what you think, Amber. Even still there. I don't know if you still here. Sometimes the staff step away. As I say, I liked it. Definitely. The only, the only question I have is if Emu, if a part of Emu was there, I just feel like Emu, don't you think that Emu already knows like Laftale's location? That's what I figured somebody would mention that. Like, especially if that was where they started their journey. But that was why I said he might have tried to just lulusha that place off the map entirely. But I think that joy boy protected is a hidden island like for all the gents and purposes for the story. And there could be something there that just rose it off and you have to go a specific route. Now, there's something that I think it was broker a while back mentioned where he said, if it was a straight up location that you can get to, there would be coordinates for it. And like the ponyclips would technically be that. But he said something on lines of it's constantly on the move. Yeah. That's why you need to pinpoint it. Yeah. Right. I remember broker theory. Yeah. I don't remember exactly how he pronounced it. But yeah. That that had been really the only pushback I had otherwise. Yeah. I agree. Super solid theory. You know, saying something like on a two-dimensional plane, you need two coordinates. But because it's four-row upon a list, then it's like a 4D. So it makes it. It makes it to where you're trying to lay man. I don't know where for where but you know. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think Emu knows where it's at because then we're we're having a whole different conference. Granted, he doesn't seem to be able to be off his area for honestly off-world. But he can't. He doesn't seem to be away from can be away from Mary Joah for longer than some time. But I feel like if he knew where it was at, that changes the dynamics pretty drastically. You know what I mean? Yeah. I think he actually might have tried to wipe it. I might have been the first thing he'd tried to do with when he got the mother flaminates weapons. So he raised like who he once was and it's time to join boy. He raised their beginning. But I don't think trouble that happened. All right boys. I do need to go to the bathroom. So I'm gonna let you I chat for a bit. All right. So yeah, I'll talk it out. But I gotta go. All right. All right. I'll be right. That's why I hold it down. Yeah. I'll do my best. Well, there's shows you've been watching recently Reaper. Anything? Anything good? No? I just caught up on Shangri-la. My man. My man. Yeah. What do you think of? I should say Shangri-la spoilers for anybody who's planning on watching that aren't caught up. And waited the recommended five seconds. What do you think of the end season two? Oh, okay. I was pretty happy because I'm not fully caught up in the manga. But from what I remember, like they did change the Katarnid entrance like how to the unique scenario started. These fish are going to be a problem. Oh dog. No, those. That I that hole. I'm not even kidding you. With saying the least I can for spoilers for you. That is literally the like least important part that's coming out in season the next season for me. Yeah, the next season three. Okay. Because you know, you don't have to worry about spoiling me. I'm past what should be coming in season three. I'm pretty far. The fighting game. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's going to be so. In the manga, I think I'm almost caught up to when they're doing like the clan, the clan. I don't want to spoil, but yeah. Yeah, no, I know where you're at then. So you haven't gotten past Carthage then. Okay, it's a genuinely good fight. I'm back. I enjoyed it. All right. It's all good. Okay, cool. But are you getting more super chest walls away? I don't think so. I don't think so. Yeah. Next up, I think it was 3D2Y or Q, which one of them is a Yanco? I want to say Q is. So he's getting the nod. Q, you there? Yo, what up? What up? Sorry. I, uh, I'd muted the check because they were talking about Shangri-la. And, uh, so I was actually, uh, I, you know what? It's part of the thing I was going to ask was, uh, yeah, for, you know, suggestions on new enemies to watch. So I've, since I joined in, I've been hearing you guys talk about Shangri-la, like only 36 times. So maybe, maybe I can give that a shot. Um, anime wrecks. I'm more of a manga wreck guy. If we're going to dabble into some manga, I probably got you better than I would have for anime either or I'll just say it depends on what you want because I get you on some anime. It's paying on how old, how far back you go. I'm a 90s guy. I'm good. Get backers. Hmm. Get backers, eh? Okay. Uh, that's a classic long time ago. Um, I think I always wreck the same stuff, man, but have you seen Gats yet? Actually, I didn't want to watch the anime because, uh, you guys have said on a pod several times that the anime was kind of booty. Yeah. Um, um, I'm actually, I am reading the manga. I got up to chapter 135. Okay. Uh, and it's, if, uh, I don't know if I want to drop any spoilers, but it's something happened that I was like, I'm going to take a break on this real quick. Yeah. We tell you. We tell you. Yeah. And I'm not gonna lie. Yeah. Yeah. No, a lot of a lot has happened, uh, in those first 135 chapters, a lot of a lot has happened. Um, are you enjoying it? Are you I am actually you know what it's it's it's very beautifully drawn The story is actually really really really enticing like it's one of those things where like I hate it But I want to know more And I think I think that's the telltale sign of like a really good story if you Yeah, I would say if you if you like that made the best I Think someone else is recommended to me. I never May although I'm I'm gonna I'm gonna for warn you like I for warn everybody with that story you are going to see things In that show that you will never forget Okay, well that show that show will scar you it's not on it's not on Crunchyroll. Sorry. I already know it's Hi dive hi dive streaming service that it's on well Yeah, what what's the what's your go-to style of anime obviously you're probably into one piece considering you're here Yeah, so I'm not gonna lie. I'm actually I'm not really like an anime guy like I like the enemies that I do watch I love like I watch Naruto bleach like the very popular ones J.J.K. I Don't really go into too many like I tracked obscure enemies I think the most obscure one that I've Dabbled with was and I it was just a feel good anime. It's it's like an esokai type of thing but like he goes into a new world and he his superpower is grocery shopping and he's like a cook. Oh Of course you know it of course of course Campfire yeah campfire cooking in another world with my Campfire cooking. Yeah, I know which one you're talking about. Yeah, the titles like a whole paragraph long, but it's It's like it's a good feel good anime. That's so I actually really stick to the main ones like I watch Yu-Gi-O in Yu-A-Shah If your vibe is more shown in bro, which is fine. I'm not gonna kill you for that. I'm a I'm gonna show it and bro myself I was just talking to Toby and Twilight about this manga which would have an amazing anime if it ever created one It's more battle than anything. It's about martial arts. I don't know if you're into fighting more specifically your choreography, but it's those are heavy heavy Fighting in choreography based show or series, but Gameron. I got Twilight to literally start it today two hours ago Yeah, I've been off and on reading it It's already hooked me Toby is like I want to say it's a 35 chapters in something like that He's got to pick it back up, but in general I reread it At least once a year. I love it. It's great. Just give a small synopsis on it. It is a five dome, which is like a a kingdom in like feudal era Japan and It's filled with thousands of like martial arts schools that are all like Buying for supremacy of the town or area and one day the leader or Dimeo of that five dome goes I'm gonna pass a session to my one of my children. He has like 50 or so children and He essentially says 31 is it 30? I think it's like no because now yo she's like 40 something Maybe I'm tripping what I did what I just read was 31 31. I ain't talking about the Lord's son Yeah, yeah, there's like 30 kids, right? So maybe it's 20 anyway. There's like 30 kids and he basically says whoever I'm gonna hold the tournament in the Unibara castle and Whoever wins the tournament whoever each of my sons will be able to choose a martial art style to represent their candidacy for the Like the lordship and whoever wins the tournament will become the new leader of the five like the new Dimeo and so One of the lords tries to find a legendary warrior From a legendary school and that school is the Ogama school and the students of that school is what the story is about I won't spoil further than that because my man Twilight is actively reading it, but that's what the story is about and it takes a lot of twists and turns and a lot of dope fighting that takes place How many chapters did you get through to Twilight before I spoil you uh three? Okay, so Yeah, sorry. How do you spell that again Gamora? It's g-a-m-r-a-n g-a-m-a-r-a-n. So gama ron gama ron. Okay. There we go. Yeah, and it enables into like all different types of martial arts styles weapons sword techniques spear techniques bow techniques archery like any weapon you can think of they'll have a school dedicated to it and they'll have some specific way to fight it, defeat it, overcome it, utilize it, whatever, and I that's what I like about it. I like it. I do I do like that kind of stuff. I like like when they get into it like I like that was probably probably one of the best features that got me into you know, Avatar the last airbender Garu I know Larry's not here. I don't think but I know he's mentioned Garu from one punch band great character with his with his learning curves and like and martial arts. Okay, cool. So I'll definitely keep that in check Gamora and made an abyss. I'll look him up. And then one more you want to go ahead. I was gonna say if you wanted a feel good a feel good anime or I won't even necessarily it's just a vibe like it's a really viby anime that an obscure one that I never hear anybody talk about. A show called Mooshishii. Mooshishii. Oh yeah, yeah. Okay. Popped up right away. All right. The other thing I wanted to touch on I'll give it a shot but not to take up too much of your time. Did you guys ever watch um I know you guys say you don't watch too many stuff uh about like one piece uh content but have you guys ever heard of a guy named O'Hara? Yeah. Yeah. He's pretty pretty popular. Wait, which O'Hara O'Hara or Library of O'Hara? Uh O'Hara O'Hara. Yeah. Okay. He's a man. You talk about Manu specific. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. He had uh he had a video a couple of years ago about how old has been writing one piece as like a like an inverse and uh opposite type of things like things that happen in the post time skip are the kind of reverse story wise almost of things that happened in the in the pre-time skip. For instance like Alabasta and Dressrose are almost like the same story but like a reverse in a sense or how archipelagio archipelagio uh it's kind of like the opposite of ag head whereas like they fight the Marines and they lose an archipelagio but in Elbaph they kind of win but also lose because Dr. Punk still still dies. I was wondering based on that kind of theory what do you think uh is going to be coming up next like do you think Oda's done with that type of writing or do you think he's still going to continue on with like making the similar story from a pre-time skip arc but in reverse. Okay so if that's the case right Elbaph is one of two potential arcs right uh it's either it's Amazonally too short an arc and Elbaph's already much longer than it um but it could be the Amazon really where it leads to the the big final war of this act um or it's the Marine Ford right so if you're gonna inverse those things then it would just be this giant war where Luffy comes out on top versus him losing you know um right i feel like i'd rather it be the Amazon Lily which sounds crazy i feel like there's too much happening for it to just be the Amazon Lily though but uh if you're if you're thinking on that like Amazon Lily was the arc where Luffy was by himself and then he finds out about ace and then that starts the whole uh impulse impulse down to uh to Marine Ford right or not impulse down um what's called yeah yeah yeah you know what i mean so like so what would be like what would be the inverse of that Luffy has his crew with him um you do technically have them not finding out about Lily uh Vivi so if you want to really really really you know Gleene here or or i was thinking if something crazy like what if uh the whole like he's fighting e-mu on elbaf everything's going to crap uh you know hockey all over the place during that chaos because black beard works in chaotic chaotic uh moments that's when he goes to wano at or or fisherman island and kidnaps uh sherahoshi you know something like that because he's got um the ooze ooze boy uh what's his name oh my god tongue guy I'm the worse with names by the way, sorry. He was stuck in a barrel for like three arcs. Oh, caribou. Caribou. Caribou. And caribou has got to be telling Blackbird all these things, right? Yeah. So that would be kind of I guess that would be the inverse of that. I don't know what I don't know how I feel about that. I have to really sit and think about what an inverted version of each of these arcs would be coming up. And I'll have to go back it because I believe I've seen that video from Ohara. Yeah, I mean, I know. Yeah, it was a while ago that I watched it, but I was just thinking about that recently, because I was like, I was like, damn, like he would have really kind of did do like write that in a way that almost every arc post timeskip to pre timeskip is kind of inverse of each other. So I mean, like if that's where we are, we kind of are like I head to me is kind of like the archipelagio. So the massage dress. So that one's probably the loudest one. Because like you literally have sent them are because are back like it's literally yeah, yeah, yeah, you have all the all of the players that were there are just back in different roles. So it's just interesting. Yeah, the only one missing was Rayleigh, but now we have Gabon, right? So I don't know. I think I think that would be that would be a pretty cool thing going on, but I believe like it worries me though, because Emu is already here. And I was just listening to your podcast. I'm like chapter 179 where Emu just wrote like it's drops on Elbeth. Like where do we go from here though? Because Emu is there like you can't you can't defeat Emu already. Like I feel like it's too early for that. And you can't have Emu just wipe everyone. But maybe, maybe, sorry, I don't want to take up too much of your time because I know you got other colors, but you know how the end of archipelagio, Kuma sends everybody different places. Do you think that's something Emu could do? Well, what would be the inverse of it sending everybody one place? I guess like sending them, you know, yeah, you know, I can't be separated. It has to be the inverse. So they have to be joined. Ah, man, I don't know what that would mean though. What like? Because they the other problem with that is, is this the is this the arc that's being inverted? Is it still support the archipelago for two straight arcs? Or is it supposed to be marine force, supposed to be Amazonally or for the bark? I mean, that's over it. Um, and fell down. But what is the what is this arc inverting? That is the question. I feel I feel like that depends on who you ask because I've asked multiple people. And I think you guys that even even disagreed on, do you count those arcs as separate arcs or all one big, dark arc? Right? Because I count them as separate arcs, but I can understand people thinking it's because it is just a very solid flow of just non-stop action and Tom Foulery, right? So if that's the case, I, we've already established that like Emu is being out of the garden out of Marijuwa. Like he has a physical effect on him. Like he can't do that for long. The same way Luffy can't be in gear five for long. Uh, what if when he inverts like, uh, teleports back, he takes the straw hats with, um, see now you just hear me think of something even dumber because if it is separate arcs and Amazon Lily is supposed to be the albath equivalent, then is he moves illness supposed to be reflective of Boa Hancock's love sickness? Mm, like the way she's just like uncontrollably in love with Luffy, Emu just irrationally. I don't know if it's irrational, but you know what I mean? Like it's, it's like the opposite where it's like, oh, like I can't survive without Luffy. It's like Luffy's causing, Luffy's existence is the bane of my existence. Um, but that's just, that's a smaller thing. I don't know if that will tie into the illness itself. I mean, I can see it because he's already working his dealt for disorderly not working on Luffy. Like you know what I mean? So, um, and he has to have, he has a huge hate hate on for, uh, for joy boy. And let's say, I mean, Nika joy boy, they're kind of, yeah, the same, but different, you know, love love hate sickness. Yeah. Yeah. Hate sickness. I mean, yeah, I think that would be, I think that's something to think about. I like to, I, I, I, it's interesting going forward to see if that's kind of how that develops. If so, I called it, uh, uh, via Ohara, but yes, yeah, you can take credit for Ohara's. I don't know. I put the jot notes. I put the, uh, I put the foot notes there. Yeah, I'm happy. I'm happy to go back and watch this video, man. I, I can't remember what the name of the, the thing is, if I do find it, I'll post it on Discord. Please do. Because I'm looking at it on another tab here. Yeah, I'm gonna say Ohara got mad videos, man. I ain't finding that anytime soon. It's gonna be a minute. I've been scrolling this whole time. Appreciate you, man. Just so yes, sir. I'll let you know. And, um, I had another wreck for you. I'll DM you it in Discord if anything. All right, sounds good. Sounds good. All right, bless up boys. Take it. Stay safe and keep rocking it up. All right. All right. Uh, we did get another $2 from C Bellamy. It says, how do I call in? Uh, Bellamy, you'll have this donated $5 super chat and then drag yourself into one of the, um, the call waiting rooms. And then we'll get you up here or become a tiered member on the Discord. And you'll see the call in only stream channel. And you can join that and just wait to sit in the waiting list. I next, let's get 3D 2Y in here. 3D. Are you there? Look. Hey, man. How's it going? Good. Not bad. Talks. Yeah. I've been sitting on this question for a couple weeks now. I was wondering. I was like, okay, so hypothetically, right? Hypothetically. If I had front row seats, front row tickets to the next or court side seats to the to the next game, right? And I were to get them to you, but you had to sit between two gay people. Okay. Two two two extremely gay dudes. What would you take it without without a hesitation? Without without a hesitation, I would have a hesitation. Without a hesitation, I would be there. And they're they were both trying to try to try to try to do stuff. Yeah, trying to get in your and you're in between them. You're in between them. I would, I would say, hey, I want to sit together. I'll move over to one of y'all seats. Yeah, I could do what y'all do. I'm going to watch the game. You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. And if they wouldn't allow that, amen, I'll stand up and watch the game. I'm court side at our next finals game. I don't care what the rest of the crowd got going on, man. I'm not focused on that. What if they smelled bad, though? Now there's smelly gay dudes who are making out or more, I guess, court side. You know, hypothetical situation. It wouldn't bother me as well, I'm saying. I'm chilling. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. That was your question. That's all I had, bro. You got to have another question, bro. You got to have another question. A theory sucked it, bro. I'm going though. I'm there. I don't, I got honestly, I don't have any theories. I mean, maybe like, maybe the straw hats could all be related in some way through dragon. And he used, uh, Tokey's fruit to go back in time. And bus mad nuts. What are we? What are we saying? Okay. What are we saying? You're assuming, you're assuming hold on. So dragon's going to, you know, Tokey died. So he found the new user of the what's it called the time time fruit or whatever fruit she had. And so he used that fruit to, um, to, um, to go to each different, uh, to call it like North blue, East blue, each, each ocean. And he, um, he, he made children on, on, on every ocean so that Luffy can find those people. And he, he set up Luffy's whole journey and he put Luffy on the right track. You think he did that for all the straw hats? Mm-hmm. That's a lot of work, bro. That's a lot of effort. He would go from doing absolutely nothing to doing the absolute most, man. I don't know. That's such a stark change in care. That's why he's not doing anything right now because he already did it all. He did all this. He would have to have some major knowledge about the relevance and skills, like requisite skills about all of these, like children, like you'd have to see the future. So, So clearly, you know, that's what observation hockey's for but but but let's like would that make him the best father in one piece if that actually happened. No, he still wouldn't top white white beard or Kuma, in my opinion, okay. Thanks. How can he be? There's nothing. There's nothing Dragon can do to top either of those men in mind. There's nothing he can do. There's not anybody can do to beat Kuma. Kuma. Yeah, okay. There's nothing he could do. I'm sorry. I'd argue Kuma's one of the best fathers in fiction. Damn. And fiction. Let me think. Let me think. Let me think. Who's a better. Who's a better father figure? I don't know. I can't think of anybody. Well, 3D, if that's all you got, man. That's all. You put me on the spot with a theory so I had to make something up off the dome, you know. That was an interesting thought process though. I'll take it. Yeah. But yeah, I'm going to the game twice twice twice. Like will we talk about now. I was just wondering, you know, I just. Imagine I said no, that'd be crazy. I said, no, I'm not going to have a gun up. Oh, DDT tomorrow. No, next plan, man. Oh, my God, bro. Listen, listen, mix or plan and it's June. What do you want from me? It's not. I'm not used to that. I got to move the man. Man's man's missed a pod yesterday because you think there's going to be a DDT. Crazy. Give us that load to your bid to your DDT. Give me a bracket and I'll consider it. Yeah, I never want to put the working. You know, I want me to craft and do all this. Make the two. The smartest guy on the pod, bro. I don't flatter you. We'll get you nowhere, man. I know my worth. And let me know about work. I ain't Larry. I don't need job praise, bro. I'll be okay. Larry doesn't need praise. Hold on. Go back and think of all the interactions that you've ever had seen Larry have and tell me he doesn't need praise. I don't know. I mean, you, uh, I don't know. I mean, you need black beard. Have a good night. We're going with this. Have a good night, sir. I love 3 days. I got to go. That was a while. What was that, bro? I don't know. My brain reset about three times. Let's get weighed the Asian in here. Wade. You there? Yes, sir. Right now. You don't sound Asian. I'm kidding. I'll see. I'm pretty sure we've gone over this before. We have got. Yeah, I'm happy. He's happy. If I remember correctly, it was German and Asian, right? Yeah. Yeah, Germany. German and Japanese. Real. Yes. Real interesting. Real interesting grandparents, man. But go on. Yeah. So, I mean, I want to start with the guy who had the next question is that guy's funny. He's pretty always comes in with some wild wild takes. But yeah, I wanted to ask, what would you do for Courtside tickets to the next game? What would you do this? What? What would I do in terms of like how illegal would I go or like, what are you, what are you asking me? I mean, it doesn't have to be illegal, but yeah, what would you do to get those tickets? Like, how much in debt would you be willing to go? Could be another way to go with it? This way. I didn't even go to game three. And I theoretically could have just put that money up. Yeah, I mean, so there's clearly a limit. Right. A couple grand. Yeah, it was I think to get in price and ended up around like 7,000. I wasn't willing to say that. Tickets for like, like the top of the top seats, I forget what they're called, but we're like 5,000 or something. Yeah, it's something like that. I wasn't willing to do that. Yeah, like that's ridiculous. That's one of my friends did go and I was trying to convince him to flip his tickets. Yeah, I've seen those where people are like, I could have gone to the last two games, two, three, whatever games, but I sent my daughter to college with this money. And people are like, yeah, I can't blame you. This is wild. I will say it did make me think about like getting season tickets because apparently season ticket holders get a significant discount on playoff tickets. I was like, is it worth it to just buy season tickets at like a couple grand and then like see what the tickets will cost you to be like at the playoffs later. And then you could probably just flip season tickets throughout the year for like like say LeBron is retiring. Maybe I just go to that game, but maybe I could flip those seats for like couple that couple hundred couple thousand maybe give my money back and then let's put that towards just going. I was definitely having all these thoughts. So as far as what I would be willing to do. It's not murder. It's not anything that would put me in jail, but there are like sacrifices I would be willing to make. Like I'd probably be willing to give a pinky up, you know. I was about to say I'm some Griffith type sacrifices. Now I'm not doing it. I'd probably be willing to give years off my life like I want to say like two to three, you know. I mean, that's fair. You've been a next vendor whole life, haven't you? Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. I mean, I think. I'm trying to think, man, somebody put a pose in the chat, Nick's chip or Blackbeard versus Luffy, and I'm so torn on that. Oh, that's a great question. That's such a great question. I've gotten Nick's chip or finding out what the one piece is. And I've struggled with that before too. Technically, I've been a next fan for longer than a one piece fan. Yeah, I like the next chip or Blackbeard versus Luffy. That's a way better question, especially for you. That'll be my second question, if anything. Oh, I think I'm going. No, no, I'm here. I think I'm going next chip because we can have some other. Elite story writing, I guess, somehow with those two people and them not fighting. Oh, man, that would really, that would really be Sophie's choice, man. If I really had to make the decision, I'd be so torn. Yeah. I think I'd have to go next championship because the piece of it is that, like, I know I'm going to enjoy whatever happens with Nick's championship. What it could still botch Blackbeard versus Luffy, right? Like, he could still just write it poorly. He could still just, he could not be well choreographed. Like, I'm still leaving that up to, like, the human element in just terms of, like, his writing abilities versus. I'm going to enjoy whatever the hell's happening on that corner. Like, so long as my team is winning. So, I'm going to go next chip over Blackbeard versus Luffy because we can, we can, we can give Shanks versus Blackbeard and maybe, like, Shanks just takes him out, which would be stupid, but like, sure. You know, or he moves versus Blackbeard, you know what I'm saying? And Mike, sure, I'd be disappointed, but I'd be willing to live with that disappointment versus never seeing a next championship. Also, now's the time I feel like to get a season, take it. I mean, I don't know what the contract's all looking like for the players, but I mean, I feel like they're all going to stay if anything. Yeah, we're probably going to be, this will be the core for the next three to four years. I think maybe some ancillary pieces will be dropped off. But I'll say the time to get them was this year before this run because they're going to be so much more expensive next year. But that was the time that time to get up was this October last year was the time to get them. That is true. Yeah. They've already mentioned that like the stock price on MSG as a trading company has gone up 100% since the start of the playoffs, which is not great for me and trying to get the next games. Did you also see that they're talking about splitting up the next one? Yes. And that's good. it's really good for them. That'd be really good for them. That will be good for me trying to get to games. Oh, I mean, yeah, but that's good as suck, man. Oh, my God. Now, I think you should definitely get this tickets because like I was I grew up in the Bay Area from 2010 to 2017. So like, I was a golden state fan before Curry became who he was. So watching that, I just wish I had more money. I wish I was ordered with more money to be able to go to the games because I wasn't able to go to the watch, go to the games. Obviously, I watched them on TVs. So it was still amazing. And honestly, Oracle used to sound insane from the TV when I was watching the broadcast. So it would have been crazy to be in there. I went. I did still go to a few games and even in the bleachers, I got the tippity top. Oh, it was still, I mean, what they say about how loud it was, like one of the loudest bass marina. You know, it was, you know, it's dope. One of my brother's best friends or his line brothers in college used to work for golden state. And we want to visit. Well, his wife had a get well, my brother's wife had a gala in San Francisco last year. And we went around the time the warriors were playing the rockets in the first round. I think it was the first round. Yeah, I think it was the first round. And he was like, Hey, if if there's a home game when you guys are in town, I can get you guys tickets. And I was like, Oh, I've never seen stuff play. Like, that'll be awesome. But they were on the road in Houston for that series. Like for that day, like the two days we were there. So we didn't, we weren't able to get tickets. So we just went to like a bar. But like, I was like, man, like, this would be awesome. Like, I've never been at San Francisco for I've never been to a gala before. I've never been to a warriors game before I get to see stuff. Oh, this could be the greatest trip like ever. And it just didn't work out that way. Everything else was pretty dope. But I didn't get to see stuff play live. I've always liked stuff. I wanted him to be a Nick. I was like, trade up form, trade up form. I was like, I don't care about Jordan. What was the guy we had? I don't know who we drafted. I was like, trade galo, trade Wilson Chandler, whoever just get us to get us up the, I wanted to talk. There was two teams that had top five picks. I mean, no, no, the timbrows had two top five picks or two top 10 picks. I'm like that. So I was like, it's trade up with them. They don't need both picks. That was my whole goal back there. I was like, get stuff, get stuff, get stuff. It didn't work out. So I actually saw that story, like literally last night on Instagram before I went to bed. That's fun. One pick away, bro. And I have to tag you in it. I'll send it in one of the chats on Discord. I have one of my uncles worked for the warriors during that time. And he, I have a picture with Steph Curry when I was like 13 or 14. That's pretty cool. I look like a young man for sure, but it was it was real. I mean, and Andrew Bogut, like the seven footer back then. It's crazy because I was only up to like his waist. If I remember correctly, there was a story that came out that he was racist or something. And I was like, you can't be racist and play basketball, can you? Like I guess black. That's crazy. Yeah. But I remember Bogut. They say he's a bust, but he got a chip or two, right? I think you might have two chips. Maybe yeah. I know he helped us get one, because we needed hype. Yeah. Because when after him for a couple of years, we struggled, because our tallest player was like, dream on. Yeah. Or come on, Looney. He's a, he's a slow ever. A little bit. Yeah, my beginning. Yeah, I saw that. I would love that. I think it'd be cool. I'd like to see Bronn and stuff together. That'd be pretty cool. I don't know. I don't know if it'll happen, but that'd be cool. Yeah, there have to be a lot of real estate with that. I'm sure step that's Bronn, but it'd be cool. Brother, I'm gonna let you drop there. Wait, but always be talking to you. Yeah, sir. I hope you guys all have a good one. You too. I'll talk to you later, peace. And we did get that $5 from Bellamy. Bellamy, you could have added a super chat to it, man. But I, Bellamy, are you there? Bellamy? We can hear you. Can you hear us? Yeah, what's up? How's it going, man? Appreciate the donation, Brookie. That's all good. I didn't have nothing to say. I just want to call it. I'll say, let's say, let's go. Sir, listen, you get this open floor, man. Theory question, rant, emotional outbursts. You're here. You donated your way in, bro. Like, let's, let's let the people here. You have a question for us, a rant, something you've always wanted to talk to about anime, one piece, whatever is, is your time. That's true. I think a lot of you. I do not have anything. I really came to just show love and say hello. I've been wanting to get on a call and to say that for a minute. It was nice. It's all birthday. Oh, yeah. Well, happy birthday, man. My nephew's birthday was yesterday. My birthday was like a week and some change ago. That makes you a Gemini. Gemini gang. The women hate that, but they love us. So they can't, they got to deal with it, you know. Hey, man. It would be like that. Some socks. But I know what you guys do. I just keep doing it. Yada, yada. I've been watching y'all's clips since what was it like? I want to say when y'all y'all are around one or something. I wasn't watching the pie. I'll just catch on a little shorts or whatever. I probably called up on one piece or two years ago, two years ago. I had nothing. That's not a task. I love it. So I'll do all that. Thank you, man. Appreciate that. I know a lot. Most people catch us in clips. I think that's our most viewed version of the content. We don't typically get the clip, the call in stuff. So we probably won't clip this. But in general, man, it's good to hear from you. I don't know how active you are on the discord, but like if you ever want a question, we have a ask us anything section. You can ask us a question just ping me or Larry. The twins typically don't engage with all that. But if you want to join these call in streams more frequently or more consistently, become a tiered member on the discord and you'll be able to call in and talk to us. I'll definitely do that. I usually catch you guys on YouTube. I'm slipping to be bad. I just now loaded discord to get on the call and chat. And you ain't had nothing to say. What's that about? Nothing to say. I don't know. It was a random random thing that happened. I want to donate some money and say hello. That's it. All right. We appreciate it, man. You have a go on. I'll chat back in and have fun. Something to say next time. For sure. Have a good night. All right. Thank you. That was going to be the last call, but it looks like 3D is here. All right. You can't jump it in and out. It's probably last caller. But let's get 3D in here. I know. I was about to say. As I say, 3D was already in. Nerd. Are you there? And why see you? Can you hear me? And why see? Hello? Can you hear us? Can you hear me? Yeah, we can hear you now, man. What's up? Give me ones. Can you hear me now? Yeah, we can hear you. All right. It's stupid. I don't know why it's dumb quiet. But I'm going to go ahead and read it. But before I get into it, I want to say one thing. I no longer think that Garling is going to be the final boss of one piece. I actually think it's going to be Nika. And I think Nika is the one that is on the far left on the mural. I have a really cool theory about it coming out next week that involves Asperia and music and everything. And it's really, really dope. And I think basically there's going to be a reverse role that like Luffy gets put to sleep inside of Nika when Nika fully awakens. And it's basically like like Nika, the destroyer always comes out at a certain point like he's always at the end of the world like they say. And so I think it just comes like it's bound to happen like you can't be like half Nika, half Luffy. And so the straw hats are actually going to have to fight Nika and separate Luffy from Nika. And this is actually how he's going to be able to get to Laftale because he's no longer going to have devil fruit power. And he's just going to be a hockey man after that. Now though, my theory. I hope you guys can hear me. I really have no idea if you can. We can. You're good. Yeah, I was a good volume. So I could just be talking to himself for all I know for the next few minutes. But all right. So this theory is a bit low. I think about to find a there's going to be huge low because I think that bit, though, not only is Declan. But is not only is he Declan, but he is a demon like Inu, like how like Inu said albeth is D. And so I think there's Declan members. But then I think there's people that are demons. We know Viblo has been around forever. But his power is really strange to me. And it clicked to me that like that's how they could have moved. Like first of all, he is about history. This is how they could have moved the pony glyphs. He could have shrunk them. He could have shrunk them and then made them big again for them. But let me jump into my theory about all this. So all right. All has a nerd. But in one piece that hell nerd might not just be stolas. It might be the entire hidden structure of the word because Stolas, the demon of astronomy, stones, and forbidden knowledge is basically the demon version of a hara. He teaches the things the church did not want people to study the stars nature, the secret properties of earth. And that is exactly how the world government treats knowledge in one piece. They did not just kill pirates. They raise scholars. They burn books. They destroy islands. Ohara was not wiped out because it had weapons. Ohara was wiped out because they could read the sky of history written in stone. And this is where Kumu becomes terrifically important once again. Because Biblow means book. It is the root behind the word like big bibliography, bibliophile, and Bible. And so when we talk about hell's nerd, the demon of forbidden knowledge, the book demon, the cosmic teacher, the one who is walking around carrying the Bible would be Kumu. But the demon of forbidden knowledge is half man, half owl, the cosmic animal for wisdom, knowledge, and history. The name Bartholomew Kumu, whose name literally connects to bear is carrying a Bible while his entire life is secretly about inherited will. You're grace, memory, martyrdom, celestial navigation, and what constellation are we really looking at? Well, there's a constellation called Ursa Minor. It is known as the Little Bear. Kumu is the bear carrying the book. Ursa Minor is the little bear carrying the North Star. The North Star is Ursa Minor. And Kumu carries Bonnie, the child of the future towards the sun. He could never reach himself. Now, here's where if you remember when Larry hung up on my theory, the iron 56 theory goes through crazy. In astrophysics, stars bend their lives, fusing lighter elements into heavier ones. But when a massive star reaches iron, especially iron, nickel peak around mass number 56, fusion stops giving energy back. Iron 56 is one of the most stable nuclei in the universe. It is the final wall of life. Once the core becomes iron, the star cannot keep burning the same way. Gravity wins. The star collapses and boom, supernova. The explosion scatters elements into space creating, creating the material for future stars, planets, bodies, blood, bones, and life in real science. We are literally made from stellar debris, carbon, oxygen, calcium, iron, all forged stars in stellar explosions. So apply that to joyboy. What if joyboy was the star that reached iron 56? Not literally a ball of gas, but symbolically, ancient son of the world being so powerful, so powerful, so radiant, so central to the old age, when he died, he did not disappear. He exploded into history. His body became myth, his will became stardust, his rhythm became the drums of liberation, his memory became ponyglyphs, his promise became Poseidon, his laugh becomes laugh tale, and his light is still traveling through the darkness 800 years later. That is what starlight is. When you look at a star, you are seeing the past arriving late. So what if the void century is not gone? What if the world is now receiving joyboy's light? That makes Luffy not just the reincarnation of joyboy? Luffy is the new star igniting the dust of an old one. Now bring in 56, Luffy's Gorbasa number is 56, Gomu. The fruit is the Gomu-Gomu-No-Me later revealed to be the Hito-Hito. Iron 56 is the cosmic endpoint before collapse and rebirth. So 56 becomes the number of the star that dies and the sun god that returns. Joyboy reached the iron core of history. He failed the ancient kingdom collapse, but the collapse seeded the entire future. Roger found the supernova remnant. Luffy is the new star born from it. This is why everybody in one piece is starred, not just scientifically, but narratively. Even inherited will is a particle from an ancient explosion. Kuma is stardust. Bonnie is stardust. The Buccaneers are stardust. The Declan stardust. Even the Pona glyphs are basically fossilized starlight. History compressed into stone. And now Ursa Minor makes this even louder. Ursa Minor contains Polaris. The North Star used for navigation for century. Polaris appears almost fixed in the sky, making it the guide for sailors, but Polaris is not always been the pole star. And it will not stay the pole star because Earth's axial process and shifts the North Star over roughly 26,000 year cycle. With stars like Thubian Polaris and eventually the next one being Vega taking that role, that is one piece. The world has a false center right now. It's Imu, not Vega. Umi is the abbreviation for Ursa Minor. Reverse Umi and you get Imu. Ursa Minor gives sailors the true North. So could Imu just be Joy Boy's reverse? Imu gives the world a false North. Imu sits on the empty throne pretending to be the unmoving center of history, but astrophysics says no pole star is eternal. Every center eventually shifts. Thubian in Draco, also known as Mu Draconis, was once the North Star. Polaris being the North Star now Vega will become the future North Star. So what if one piece world that is in a cosmic procession of inherited will? The ancient kingdom had its pole star Joy Boy. The current world has its false pole star Imu. The future world will have its new pole star Luffy. And that is where Mujakronis Vega become insane symbols. Draco is the dragon constellation wrapped around Ursa Minor. The dragon coils around the pole in one piece. Who coils around the world from above? The celestial dragon's Draco is literally the dragon guarding the celestial North. And historically Thubian in the Draco was once the North Star. So before Polaris, the dragon held the pole. This sounds exactly like the current regime. The dragon once controlled the center. The celestial dragons took the axis of the world. Imu became the hidden pole. The procession says the dragon's time ends. Mujakronis matters because Mu can echo emptiness, nothingness void. Hidden origin, depending on symbolic readings. In your theory, Mujakronis becomes the dragon star of the void century. The Mu of Draco is the erased star inside the dragon system. It is the clue that the void is not empty. The void is full of dead light. That is the whole trick of the void century. It is not blank. It is a night sky. A world government wants you to see darkness. But O'Hara knew darkness is where stars are readable. Then Vega. Vega is Lira, and Lira is the instrument, music resonance vibration, the drums of liberation. NASA notes that Vega will return to the Northern Pole position in about 1200 years because of precision. So Vega is not the future guide. Vega is music becoming north. That is Luffy. Luffy does not guide people through law. He guides them through rhythm. His heartbeat, the drums, the laugh, the sound that makes people move. Joybois old light was scattered like star dust. Luffy's new light is sound becoming direction. Kuma's book has always been strange because it does not behave like a normal religious prop. Fans have pointed out that it seems connected to islands and travel, especially because Bonnie reads about places like sky island and Kuma uses the book when sending people away. That makes the Bible not only scripture, but an atlas, a holy book, a travel guide of Bibliomap. Kuma is not carrying religion. Kuma is carrying the geography of salvation, and that fits his devil through perfectly. Kuma did not just repel pain. He sends people where they need to go. He becomes a living compass, a bear with a Bible, moving people across the world like stars. This is why Kuma is the Ursa Minor figure. The bear does not become the sun. The bear points you towards it. Kuma points the straw hats toward survival. Kuma points the future towards Nika, and the most devastating part is his memory bubble. In chapter 1102, Kuma creates a bubble containing his memories before losing himself. And when Bonnie later touches it, the bubble disappears and leaves her overwhelmed. This is literally supernova, remnant, and character form. Kuma's life becomes a star explosion of memory. His body destroyed, his will survives. His pain becomes light for Bonnie. His sacrifice becomes the map. This is the same structure as Joyboy. Joyboy died, but his will became history. Kuma died as a person, but his love became memory. Ohara burned, but its book survived. The ancient kingdom fell, but the poniglifes remained. Every death in one piece is a supernova. Joyboy was the iron 56 star of the ancient world. He reached the point where the old system could no longer sustain itself. His defeat was caused, his defeat caused the collapse of the ancient kingdom, but like supernovas, the collapse scattered his will across the world. The poniglifes are stellar remnants. The decline are his cosmic dust. The buccaneers are the bodies of the remembered rhythm. Kuma is the bear Bible navigator, carrying the book of the lost stars. Bonnie is the child who inherits light. And Luffy, Luffy is the new son born from the ashes of the ancient explosion. Now, Biblow will guide them and teach them how to read the history from the stars. And you can turn Kuma into a machine, but the universe keeps receipts. The stars keep the past and eventually the sky rotates. The dragon will lose the pole. The false god will lose its center. The book opens the bear point north. The drums will start to be, and the world will realize the void century was never empty. Those in night sky, full of joy, boys, exploded lights. Hi, I like really wish I could hear what you were saying about it. I don't even know if I'm talking anyone nerd. I don't think you can hear me, but that was great. Oh, yeah, you can't hear me, man. That sucks, but not that was, that was great. Honestly, I really do wish Nurt could hear me. Let me try bring back in here. Nurt, can you hear me now? Nurt. Yeah, I don't think he hear us. Now, well, Nurt, I know you'll probably watch this back, or at least I hope you will. I really did enjoy that. It was a little difficult to keep up, but I did really like the tie-ins with the stars, the tie-in with the specific type of deity that you were referencing for Biblow. I know people have referenced similar things before, but I really did like that. I like the idea of Luffy being the basically reincarnated version of this star. That was pretty cool. The star dust stuff was a little out there for me. I won't lie. I was trying to keep up. You brought the alchemy pieces back in. I struggle with the alchemy, but overall, I thought it was well crafted. I didn't slip up much when you were explaining it, so it was easier to keep up than sometimes it is with you with these longer theories. I was waiting for you to tie Biblow back in. That was going to be my one thing. How did Biblow tie back in? You basically made him be the compass or the guiding light or the guiding star, the means for them to understand their place in the world. I was waiting. You made it start with Biblow and then Biblow is gone after the beginning. I really did like the Kuma parts. I've heard that also about Kuma's role and the Bible being weird and maybe it being more like a map than a Bible. I was interested to see you tie that in. I'll have to watch that back maybe a couple times to really gauge it and maybe even take notes on it to be honest. But nerd, I'm sorry you were having audio issues. I don't know what that's about. We tried to get you back in here. Didn't seem like it was helping. But yeah, I think based off what I was seeing in the chat, a lot of people seem like the theory as well. I titled it, Hell has a nerd, which I thought was really cool. I'll probably continue to do that whenever you start up your theories like that. That was pretty dope. That was a nice little title. All right. I hope you guys all enjoyed nerd's return to the call and stream. We missed you, man. I know people talk a lot of crap about how long the theories tend to be in stuff, but that's really the heart of this. This is the one piece theory crafting machine. That's the point. I appreciate you, bro. If you are able to listen to this, I hope you're enjoying it, man. And looking forward to hear that other theory that you previewed us to start this start your call. So, right. I don't think we have any other callers. So I'm going to wrap their plus I got to walk this dog. So, and feed it. Hey already. Dog sitting. I'd be dog sitting sometimes. Oh, okay. Yeah. Respectable. Respectable. Yeah, man. Couldn't tell you what they actually are. She was asking what kind of dog it is. And I'm like, I think it's a French bulldog, but I never really know. Well, yeah, I know if it's a smaller big. Yeah. Guys, like the stream. If you haven't already, sorry again for the delay on all the calling streams. I'm going to try to make sure we don't go a month without calling streams again. Work travel, life travel, B day travel, and Nick's games kind of made that impossible over the last couple. But I'm going to do my best to make sure it doesn't happen again. We did get one more super chat. I'll read that before we close out. $5 from my name's Tenzo. It says, Seb, would you attend a Diddy party for Nick's tickets? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. Listen, listen, as all this Diddy be, clearly people were having fun in most of these parties until things went left a little later in the party. I'm a party exeter before things go left most of the time. Now, you got to stick through to the end for them to hold thing for the tickets. As long as nobody's trying to wheel me up and I don't see any really weird age problem behavior, why not? You get an oiled up by the end of that. I got to be oiled up. Oh, I can't do that. I can't be a part of that. Oh, nerd put any thought on Bibl making the pony. That was the other thing. I did like that as an option for how the pony clips kind of moved about. I thought that was a really good connection that could have been made there. Yeah, I didn't have any like deeper thought, but when you said it, I was like, Oh, yeah, that's another avenue. But yeah, guys, like the stream, if you want to participate in these types of streams, become a tiered member of warlord or higher in our discord or donate your way in with five hours or gifted memberships. Yeah, glad to be back. Depending on how far this next series goes, I won't have, I probably won't have a call in stream next week unless the next win and five. Just kind of how it is right now. Because game game six would be. So yeah, I think it's. So, and then I have to travel again, not for work. My friends have an house warming and a birthday in Arizona. So I'll be away. I should still be back for next Monday's podcast, but. Yeah, actually that's next next Monday. So I don't know then I'll figure it everything out either way Probably no call and stream next week But yeah, yeah, I have a good one like I said hit that like button and I'll see you all next time

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The stream hosts a call-in session open to Discord members with server tier access or $5+ super chats.
  2. A major topic is the fanbase hypocrisy around power scaling, specifically the sudden shift in belief that Jimbe is stronger than Thongy in the Wano arc, viewed as a toxic and inconsistent trend.
  3. Similar power scaling debates occur in the Saunji/Zoro fandom, with fans arguing over bounty values and perceived strength.
  4. A discussion on Saunji’s actions during Hole Cake Island, with concern that Zoro might not accept Saunji’s behavior due to loyalty to Luffy, though the group agrees Zoro would likely understand and not react with deep anger.
  5. A fan theory explores the moral complexity of good vs. evil, using Flamingo as a case study: trauma doesn’t automatically create evil, but choices do.
  6. The host and guests debate the strength of characters like Blackbeard and Kuzan, concluding they’d easily defeat most opponents in a 2v1 scenario.
  7. A fan asks about the potential for a "Top 30 Worst Characters" list, which the host finds fun but notes would be controversial due to fan bias.
  8. A detailed fan response praises Conkey from *Kingdom* as a brilliant general, despite being a villain, highlighting his strategic brilliance and moral complexity.
  9. The group jokes about the absurdity of summer ending in September and questions the logic of Pokémon or anime character power rankings.
  10. A basketball “starting five” is proposed with Luffy at point guard, Kaito at shooting guard, Loki at center, and others like Duffy and Shanks as alternatives, sparking debate over team balance and roles.

Summary:

The call-in stream features an engaging discussion among fans on One Piece and Kingdom fandoms. Central themes include fan-driven power scaling debates, such as the sudden shift in beliefs about Jimbe and Thongy’s strength, which is seen as hypocritical and toxic. The conversation extends to Saunji’s actions during Hole Cake Island, where Zoro’s loyalty to Luffy is acknowledged as a key factor in how he might respond.

A deeper philosophical discussion on good and evil is presented through Flamingo’s character, emphasizing that trauma doesn’t dictate morality—choices do. Fans also debate character strength, with strong opinions on Blackbeard and Kuzan’s capabilities in a 2v1 scenario. A fan highlights Conkey from *Kingdom* as a highly strategic and complex character, valuing his leadership despite his villainous role.

The stream also touches on fan theories, such as a potential "Top 30 Worst Characters" list, and a creative basketball lineup featuring Luffy and other characters. The tone remains lighthearted, blending humor, analysis, and community-driven fan interaction, showcasing the depth of engagement in anime-related discussions.

FAQs

The callin stream allows Discord members to join a voice channel and ask questions, pitch theories, or discuss any anime-related topics, including non-anime subjects, in a live interactive setting.

You must be a server member with at least 'warlord' tier to access the voice channel. Alternatively, you can join via a $5 Super Chat donation, which grants you entry.

Fans observed a sudden shift in power scaling when Jimbe’s bounty was higher, despite no clear strength progression. This created inconsistency and toxicity, especially since it contradicted earlier fan opinions and the narrative logic of the series.

Some fans believe Saunji’s actions on Hole Cake Island show a lack of loyalty to Luffy, which could be seen as disrespectful. However, others argue that Zoro would understand Saunji’s motivations and might not see it as a major issue due to his emotional connection to Luffy.

Many fans, including the streamers, praise Conkey as a brilliant strategist and essential to the kingdom’s success, despite his morally ambiguous actions. His leadership and tactical skill are widely recognized as superior to other generals.

Sanji is seen as potentially capable of harming Flame of King, but not strong enough to defeat Blackbeard. King is considered overrated by some fans, with criticism that his abilities don’t align with his strength in combat.

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