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Top 6 Horror films of 2025 with Mike Hill

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Top 6 Horror films of 2025 with Mike Hill

In this podcast episode, the hosts review their top six horror films of 2025, acknowledging it was a weak year initially but improved significantly towards the end. They highlight "Bring Her Back" as a particularly dark and effective film, comparing it to French extremity horror. The discussion expands into personal recommendations, including books like "Between Two Fires" and "Hyperion Cantos," comics such as "Spawn" and "Absolute Batman," and upcoming movies from acclaimed directors. They also touch on broader genre trends, criticizing some extreme horror for lacking substance while praising works with supernatural or philosophical depth. The hosts express optimism for horror in 2026 and encourage listeners to explore other related podcasts and media.

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[MUSIC] This episode, my brother Mike Hill and I go over our top six favorite horror films of 2025. We also give some on-roll mentions that are worth checking out. That includes some TV shows. There's also some books we threw in there at the beginning of that episode that you should check out. So a lot of cool recommendations. And I hope 2026 is going to be a solid year for horror and it's looking in that way. So hopefully it will be. And I hope you enjoy this episode. After you're done with this episode, make sure you check out my fellow horsemen of the podcast, the apocalypse. Everything went blank podcast into the necrosphere, the necromaniax podcast, spitbo media, iBus manifestations, and the solenox podcast. Also don't forget to like and rate this podcast on whatever podcast service that you use that definitely helps. Once again, I hope you enjoy this episode. And thank you so much for listening. All right, Mike. We are back again for our top six of 2025. And I can't believe we're talking about 2025 and it's already 2026. Like years go by so fast now. Yeah, dude. Happy New Year to everyone. And I'm psyched to get back on the show. Yeah, I'm always happy to have you back on here, man. And yeah, looking forward to this episode. And, you know, I've said this before in past episodes about 2025. Wasn't the strongest year for horror, but I will say towards the very end of 2025. A lot of pretty cool things came out, you know, and luckily since we're doing this episode kind of in the middle January or whatever, I was able to catch up on a few other films early January from 2025 that kind of almost made the list or may have made the list. So yeah, not cool. Yeah, definitely started off slow, but 2025 finished pretty hard, man. It did. It did. And I have high hopes for 2026. Still waiting on that Panos Cosmodos movie to come out finally. It could be this year. He's so mysterious with this stuff. Like you just don't know. It might just pop out. I believe the one that's coming out is looking like a space vampire film possibly. I can't, yeah. I'm excited about that too, man. I, you know, he's definitely one of the pushes the envelope on all this stuff. It's awesome. And also Osgood Perkins has another film coming out. It looks really cool. I can't remember name of top of my head, but, you know, I'm always down with anything he does. Yeah, definitely, man. I still back Black Hood's daughter is probably my favorite of his stuff they put out. Yeah, I would say overall number one. Yeah, that would be my favorite. Then right after that would be long legs. Like those two, like, and I think if I'm not mistaken, he wants those two to be in the same universe. And I can totally see that, you know, them being in the same universe have that same dark feeling stuff. So that's cool if he does make a universe with, you know, those characters and stuff. Black Hood's, sorry, long legs grew on me. Initially, I wasn't in that and thralled with it, but in subsequent viewings that movies definitely grow more and me more. Yeah. And, you know, being a big Nick Cage fan is like, like, we are in stuff. That first scene in long legs, what got me like, it was so fucking creepy, so cold because, you know, the snow and stuff. And just the way it was filmed, it was filmed really cold. And yeah, Nick Cage was like, man, on a whole another level. It's sold me. It sold me pretty fast. And as pretty easy to do with good, if Nick Cage is on it in the movie, like, fits him well, you know, it's going to be a winner for me. Totally. Before we get into our top six, have you been watching anything recently? That's not worth it. You're reading it. Reading anything, not worth it? Well, I just finished a little heaven, the nick of it, Nick Carter book. Nice. What do you think? I really liked it, man. It's not my favorite of his, but it was really solid. And my one, my one criticism is that it's a, it's a, it drags a little bit at times. It is a little long. And I think that's some of his earlier work too. So yeah, I believe so. But other than that, it was great ending of that book. It's just totally bleak. It's almost like reminds me the book itself reminds me like of Kormac McCarthy root body horror. Yeah, I can totally see that because it has like that kind of like Sam Peck-and-Pah-esque like West, you know, Western cinematic sort of vibe, you know, of like these assassins and like, shadowy people and things like that. And then like the whole religious cult element to it. Yeah, I really dug the religious cult man some six stuff going on. Yeah, yeah. And of course, I've been reading Spawn Dark Ages. There's a new Spawn series that Carl turned me on too. Oh, nice. So the first two issues are out. It's like takes place in Roman England, like though a Britain rather than like the Roman occupation of Britain. And it's a clash between like it has like very cool like it digs into like the whole Christianity like pagan sort of thing and very, very cool artworks great. And then as a result of that, I'm rereading the Spawn Dark Ages original series that came out as like a a trade paperback. Oh, that's awesome. You remember that as a kid? I had the Spawn action figure with him on a horse, I believe. Like, you know, so badass. I still love Spawn. I think overalls he's still my favorite. Like, I wouldn't call him a superhero anti superhero, but I think overall he's my favorite still. Did you ever catch the animated series that was on like HBO or something? Oh, dude, it was so good. So fucking dark. I revisited that one a few years ago. And I was like, man, it still holds up so well, so good. Yeah, it's the film came out, which you know, of course I saw the movie, but it didn't it was like completely opposite to what I thought the film should be like. And then the animated series came out. And I was like, yeah, this is the deal right here, you know, yeah, so dark and bleak really dug the soundtrack for it and stuff. It was really good. And I'm a subject to spawn there. I do like the original movie. I know some of CGI was questionable even for back then, but like the design of Spawn was cool and I like Michael Jay White. So I recently got a Amazon had to sell and some arrow stuff and I got the arrow version of Spawn like the special HDR edition or whatever it just came out. So looking forward to rewatching that one. And it has a really cool new metal soundtrack. Oh, for the memories of like filter and shit. I'm like, you know, it's not now it's classic. So I can go back and let's do it. I'll film to guilty. Filters out bad. Yeah, they're like a little bit, you know, I have like I didn't like that stuff at all back. Like it's funny. Like I'll back filter at least, you know, dude was in nine inch nails. So that's kind of cool. Yeah, no filter school. And also the lead singer filter. His brother is a T 1000. What's his name? To do to play T 1000 in terms of you. Yeah, that's his brother. Oh shit. Yeah. Robert Patrick, I believe. Oh, wow. I love that guy. That guy shows up in the sopranos like every now and then you see him round. And uh, and then there was that sleeper film. What Josiah saw that was on shutter a few years ago. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That was a good one. He was in that like, yeah, like kind of gothic Southern Gothic horror film. So fucking good, man. He was great in that. Yeah. But yeah, that's his brother. Ain't that crazy? That isn't same, man. Yeah. Um, and I'm not a big science fiction reader at this stage really. But I used to realize I five. But now I started, I started this series called Hyperion Cantos, which is like, um, it kept popping up in various like booktube channels that I check out. And uh, you know, like it's like science fiction, but it has like kind of like an epic fantasy like vibe to it. So I just started it last night. And it's, it's actually really, really good. You know, it's, there's like a, you know, esoteric sort of, you know, vibe to it, you know, like sort of cultish kind of thing, but it's complete total hard sci-fi like series. That's cool. We haven't heard of that one. Might be something I might check it. I'm in the sci-fi as well like dark sci-fi. So yeah, that'd be something. Well, it's definitely dark. Like there's like some demonic like entity in it. And it's cool, you know. That's awesome. I mean, I'm reading as of right now, I'm like 75% complete with this one. But it's, this is really good. When I think this was uh, uh, uh, some I recommended this one to me. Um, I have to think back on it real quick. Uh, but anyways, between two fires, you know, have you read that yet? Great, but great, great, excellent. I read it last year. Okay. Yeah. I'm digging it, man. Like, uh, it's definitely got some heavy parts in there. You know, like man, emotionally heavy. Yeah. That wasn't really expecting. It, you know, it's a historical like, uh, you know, sword and sorcery basically, you know, and it, what I, what I dug about it is the way they portrayed the angels in there, which is like the kind of uh, Elohim, like Christian, they're almost like demons. Like they're not like these wings, like guardians. So these like weird shaped like beings. You know, it's cool. This was recommended by Paul. So, yeah, Paul from a, yeah, a wrestler spirit recommended this one to me when we had our episode last year, we're talking about a novels and stuff. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think I mentioned Paul and I I think spoke about it. And like, I remember, uh, that's another book they just kept popping up in various places. And uh, I think what sold me on it was the cover. It's like these skulls and like swords and shit like that and like a red background. Like I was, all right, this, this looks, at least I'll try this, you know, and it kind of sounds kind of metal to like between two fires, you know, like it sounds kind of black metal lead or something. Like, yeah, we check it out. That's, that's, uh, that's really cool. And like I kind of like put me on to like that whole, like, it's kind of a subgenre really like historical, like medieval sword and sorcery. There's guy, uh, Dow Schweitzer who wrote, um, I discovered him by accident. I was traveling for work. I was on a plane and I downloaded a bunch of these, um, you know, there's like 50 packs of short stories that are on Kindle. And you know, there was like a weird fiction one and like, uh, you know, so I saw, I read a few of his weird fiction stories first. And then I started doing, um, some research on, on what other stuff he wrote. And then he has a collection of sword and sorcery short stories. And uh, that kind of kicked off my whole interest. And they're all set in like the, or this particular collection was set in the, in the medieval times. Uh-huh. Yeah. So that kind of turned me on to that. Yeah. I'm, I'm digging this. I might get back into more of this genre or whatever. Cause I, I needed a break because I've been reading a lot of extreme horror. I mean, I think I recommended some stuff from, uh, Wrath James White to you. Yeah. Yeah. Yep. I picked that up on, I didn't read yet, but I have one on, uh, okay. What'd you pick up? Uh, what book did you get you in, remember? Uh, I just randomly grabbed something on there and it sounded, it's, I can't remember. Okay. Yeah. Well, they're all going to be extreme as fuck. So prepare yourself. So I needed a break from that. That's why I got between two fires. Yeah. But not really a big fan of extreme horror. But, uh, if there has to be some kind of like storylines to it, that's like, you know, interesting to me. You know, I mean, I had some elements, some supernatural element. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So that, because some, I read a few, like I read womb. Uh-huh. Cause that, that was another book that came up everywhere. And I was completely bored by it, you know, or even the pop E. Z. Bright stuff, like some of, some of the pop E. Z. Bright material is like kind of like, all right, I get it. You know, we're like, people with pieces and, you know, but, uh, yeah. I mean, if there's some element of supernatural or like philosophical elements to it, then I'll, I'll be into that though. Yeah. He definitely does so that I'm there because I just had him on the show, uh, was it last weekend? Yeah. So it's not out yet. But I, yeah, yeah. We're talking about, you know, his stuff and everything. And yeah, there's a lot of those elements in there. Cause he, he can points about that too about a lot of these extreme writers coming up now that there's nothing but gore and no story. He said that's boring. I'm like, I agree. Yeah. Like a number of years ago, I read this book. It came out. It was like a chat book. And I'm like, oh, let me, uh, you know, support, um, you know, you know, independent writers. And I, I bought it at like a heart. Like, I think it was like, maybe the, uh, asbury park, uh, like, there was like this crampus convention or something down there. And I picked up some dude with selling his books. And there was these like chat books that he wrote. And it sounded interesting. It was like, oh, there's like some entity that like lives in this mountain and on a mountain top. And I'm like, I read it, but it was like an extreme horror novel. And it basically all, it was just like rape and abduction and, yeah, it's not into that kind of stuff. Yeah. I totally understand. Uh, yeah. That's pretty rough. Um, another guy who's, I guess, I don't know if you're throwing an extreme horror, but he kind of like, he, he toes a line a bit, but uh, his stuff is more like, definitely more love crafty and in everything. Uh, his name is Elias Withrow. And uh, he just came out with a new book of short stories called Grave of the Leviathan's. And I highly recommend that one. Uh, that sounds cool. Grave. It's got awesome cover to do. You know, the cover looks bad. And the cover alone would draw you into this. But uh, like title two, man. Yeah. It's fucking medals. El Grave of Leviathan's, but uh, that's a good one. I recommend you checking that one out. It's, he's a great writer. If I've read a bunch of this stuff and he's got a film that's going to be coming out hopefully soon at, uh, his base off one of his books. So keep an eye on him. I'm going to get him on the show too. I just happened. Really contacted him hard yet, but yeah, Elias Withrow, man. He is great. And that, uh, that Schweitzer collection of those medieval stories. That's, it's called We Are All Legends. We are all legends. Yeah. The shorties are all like, the stories are, are all like, uh, like 10 pages long or something, but they're, they're really cool. And that's cool. Yeah. Like, sometimes it's good to have like a quick read before you go to bed because I end up like honking out pretty fast, man. Well, it's time to start reading in bed. Do them out like 20 minutes later. I'm, I'm gone. So try to do most of my reading when I'm sitting on the couch or something. Yeah, man. Yeah. But yeah, that's just, uh, I've been doing a lot of reading. Uh, I also started the, uh, what is it? The ultimate Batman or whatever? I know, uh, absolute, yeah, absolute Batman. And Michael was talking about that on your last podcast. I think he was recommended. He recommended a few times. And finally he got a caught up on volume one of that. And uh, yeah, fucking awesome. Yeah, I, I, I ordered the first trade, but I haven't dug into it yet. They got that, uh, they got absolute Superman and absolute Wonder Woman. So now I'm starting on absolute Superman. And so far, so good. Uh, really brutal, really dark, you know, I'm not a big Superman fan, but I'm like, you know, let's see if the treatment got, you know, thrown over to him. We like to dark shit. It definitely does. But uh, never been a Superman fan. Not my thing. Yeah. I mean, anyone who's invincible and godlike, he's kind of like, I can't imagine the story is being, you know, very, very interesting. Unless there's like some conflict, you know, right. And uh, we all know Spawn can kick his ass anyway. So because but a Superman doesn't like magic. Well, yeah, well, Spawn's like magic. So, you know, that's, yeah, that's a big argument. I guess Superman versus Spawn. Spawn's got all the way. Definitely back him. Just like banish him to hell or something like that, you know? Yeah. Fucking, uh, oh, Mr. Goodie too. She was Superman. And I do nothing with Spawn. All right. Cool. So, uh, I was thinking we start down from the, uh, or number six and work our way up to, uh, number one for our favorite to 2025. And then after that, you know, give some honorable mentions because there's a few that could have took the spot for number six, like it was hard figuring out which one was going to be number six. So I put those as honorable mentions. That's normally kick it off. Yeah. Yeah. If you would, that'd be cool. So this one was actually by number one for half of the year last year because of just how, you know, lean our pickings were for horror films. Uh, and so my number six is bring her back, which came out back in May of last year. And that's, uh, the Danny and Michael of Phillipu production. The same people who brought us talk to me. And, uh, and, you know, I, I did not like talk to me. People have said, Oh, give it another shot. Watch it again. I watch it. I just cannot get any way, man. But bring her back. It completely, I did a complete about a face on their work, man. It's, like, it reminds me of those, uh, French extremity films that came out, like 25 years ago, like, you know, like martyrs and inside in those types of films. And, uh, it had a very unsettling vibe. Uh, the acting was great and it, and it did not have a happy ending. So I'm sure. No, no, at all. Yeah, just the dark, dark movie, man, you know, yeah. That's definitely a dark movie and, uh, uh, it's also my number six. Really? Yeah. But did you, wasn't that, that was kind of what was carrying the flag for most of the year, though, man, in my opinion. Uh, yeah, for the most part for me, it was ranked a bit higher, like maybe third, you know, through the most, most of the year last year, but some other things overtook it. But, uh, yeah, I'm right there with you because there's a very lean start of the year of 2025. Yeah, I feel like it wasn't like when May came around and that movie showed up. It was like, all right, now I feel like 2025 hard film starts with this because everything before that just, that just wasn't interested in it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Totally. It was a, it was a weird year. Um, hopefully, like I said, this year, be a bit better. But we'll see so far. I haven't watched anything from 2026. So, yeah, I know it's only early January. Yeah. But, uh, yeah. Um, also, my number six is, you know, bring her back. Uh, yeah, dark and brooding, but I also like their film before that. I know I'm like on the, uh, outer ranks to that when it comes to liking, uh, you know, the film before, was it, was it bring her back? Oh, it's called, uh, talk to me, talk to me, I'm getting confused a bit. But I enjoyed that. When I definitely enjoyed bring her back more, it's definitely darker and just, it's like this real nasty kind of movie, you know, especially that the homemade VHS tapes wherever to plan at the beginning and towards in with the ritual. I thought that was really awesome. And they don't give too much away on that too, which I thought was cool. Like they, they don't linger too long on the, on the video footage. Like you just get these little glimpses of it. And I think that's super effective. And the same thing with the, the ritual, you know, they kind of outline it, you know, and, uh, but there isn't like this big information dump about anything, you know, and those, once again, like that, that type of footage, you know, the video footage, it reminded me of an event horizon where they had those like horrific scenes that happened. And you don't see you just see enough to settle, you know, right? Yeah, because if you give away too much, it kind of takes away from the, you know, the magic of the scene, just given you just enough like this did, it's awesome. And it does also remind me of like the early 2000s with the, you know, French extreme stuff. Like that was a great time for horror because we had a bunch of crap out all that time. Then, you know, the French extreme movies came out and kind of changed everything. And you see, but that's what I'm talking about. Like those films were very brutal and extreme, but there's, there weren't like extreme horror. Like there was like sort of like a, you know, a more, elevate, I hate to use every elevator, but more of a philosophical component to it, you know, there's a narrative. There's like a story. There was like some point to all the brutality. Yeah. Well, it just wasn't violence for violence, you know, kind of like, uh, I think your imitations of those like hostile and stuff. I was never a big fan of the hostile films. The first one was okay, but I just kind of pointless to me. You know, it was very one-dimensional compared to like the French extreme stuff. And I think that was like our counterpart to that, you know. Yeah, totally. Yeah. But yeah, also another thing with, uh, bring her back or whatever. I thought the relationship between the mom and the, uh, the step, I know, not a foster kid. It was fucking, I was like, man, so something's going to happen here. Like, don't let it happen. Like, I don't want to see those two together or anything like that. You know what I mean? It's like she was hitting on the whole time. It's a weird vibe going on there. It's real creepy. Uncomfortable, man. The whole movie is just uncomfortable and unsettling and just nasty, you know. Yeah. And I don't know if you ever heard the directors in an interview before, but they did one with Mick Garrus before. Post-mortem was, uh, you know, when he stopped doing post-mortem, but they were on his show. And these two guys, man, like you would not think they would do a movie like this or anything in the horror genre. They're so like fucking, they're very cartoonish. Oh, you know what? I did hear that on Mick Garrus. Yeah. It was like a couple of years ago when, when talk to me came out, right? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So I listed that show religiously. Oh, man. I was like my Bible podcast. I was so sad when it ended, but he had his reasons and stuff, you know, and he's working, he's working on something right now that either it's going to be movie or book form, but uh, something's cooking he said. So that's cool. But yeah, these guys, man, like, like these are the same guys that made this dark ass movie. Like how's that work? You know, it's like they're so like animated cartoonish and I think they made their like, uh, living on YouTube doing like crazy, like prank videos or something. I don't know. But uh, yeah, more power to them, man, because their movies are, they can keep it in this direction. We're good to go. Just real quick about YouTube, man, like there's like so much shit out there that's that's kind of awesome. Like there's, um, like all this kind of analog horror that he's like, uh, independent filmmakers are doing and ever since skin of already came out, and it's kind of fascinated with that whole world because that, that duty made skin of meringue is one of those, uh, analog horror like guys. Mm-hmm. You know, there's like two channels, but just they'll be episodes. They're like three minutes long and they just create this narrative. It's pretty cool. Yeah, I think in a lot of those popping up in my recommendations and stuff, um, because I'm, I'm kind of going down the rabbit hole bit with liminal horror like, just liminal spaces in general are so fucking creepy to me and it triggers something in my like, uh, teenager mind or something or just like it's bringing about childhood like nightmares and stuff. I'm like, where I don't know where this is coming from, but they're like, uh, they're hooking on to something in my psyche and it's, uh, kind of wild magic. It's bringing about like old nightmares and shit, but there's a whole bunch of YouTube videos on that. Yeah, it's probably probably watch the same ones because that's also a big point for me, man, and like going all the way back to, um, uh, Messiah of Evil, that movie that came out like that 70s film. Oh, yeah. Like that plays on that whole liminal space, like emptiness kind of vibe, you know, yeah, that was kind of like liminal before it was a thing, you know? Yeah, but yeah, YouTube has a ton of good stuff. I recommend everybody going down that rabbit hole. You just got to start with one video, like, say liminal horror, like analog horror, then, you know, everything else to be recommended to you then, you know, you're going down the rabbit hole. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So now we're, uh, to your number five, I believe? Yeah, this one is something that we accidentally discovered on Necromaniax. It was a film called Strange Harvest. Oh, Helena. It came out in August of last year and Stewart Ortiz, the guy who did Grave encounters was behind this one. And, um, yeah, we got sent this screener and I was like, this could be, this looks to be not that good. So it's like, we kind of put it off like I shared it with Jeff and then we finally watched it and I was like, hold on a second, this is fucking awesome, man. This is like way, way better than I've imagined it to be. And, um, Jeff agreed, you know, and we, um, it's, it's, we both came to the same conclusion that Cosmic Horror is best told when there's no real grandiose special effects. Yeah. Cause that can take away from it. Two of your budgets really low and you're trying to like pull off some crazy shit like it can totally take you out of it. Yeah. And it kind of like goes hand in hand with like even reading Lovecraft because Lovecraft, a lot of the stories are like people recounting what happened. You know, so it's all very heavily descriptive, you know, it's, you know, it's not happening in the moment in a lot of Lovecraft short stories. And Strange Harvest kind of mills Cosmic Horror, which doesn't even kick in until like the middle of the movie with like True Crime, which is like True Crime, like documentary type, you know, filmmaking. And it's like very, very affected. And, and uh, yeah, just that, that's, uh, that was a pleasant surprise. And, um, that goes highly recommended if anyone out there, I think it's streaming somewhere. Uh, maybe I'm, maybe I'm tubi. Possibly. Yeah. If not on Amazon, maybe. Cause I think when I watch, I had to rent it off Amazon. But you could find it out there. Oh, yeah. And it's definitely, I'm sure it'll pop up on shutter this year or maybe or something like that. Also going to pop up on my list somewhere. So the same. Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But that one, that one was a pleasant surprise. Uh, definitely rates on this list for sure. Yeah. Dude, I was a great call on that one. I was like, man, that sounds totally my alley. And after, uh, after listening to y'all's episode, I checked it out like, fuck you, dude. That's like, this hits all my spots. All right. So, uh, my number five, which I'm pretty sure is on your list or, uh, good. It's got to be on your list. But anyways, it's, uh, that was good Perkins film from last year, uh, keeper, uh, keeper was fucking pretty awesome. And this film kind of just, uh, I don't know, it sat with me for a bit and it started like, it is stable with me. It's kind of like an insidious thing. I'm like, man, this movie was really, really good. And there's something really off about it too. Something, you know, and it is a dark movie. And, but it just kind of stayed with me. You know, so I'm like, this is definitely going to make my list. I enjoyed that one a lot, man. And, you know, as, as Perkins is, you know, one of the top filmmakers in the genre, definitely, uh, and I agree with you, and we'll see. This shows up, but not what you think it does. My list, too. Okay. No, okay. But yeah, no one was good in that. You didn't like any of the characters in that movie either. No, they're all despicable. Yeah. Yeah. And, uh, the dude that played uh, Malcolm or whatever, Rosa of Sutherland, that guy, uh, yeah, really hated that film. But he's a good actor. He would make it unless he already does it, but like his voice, man, he's got a, the perfect voice for like, uh, voiceover stuff or I'm sure I'm not too aware of his, uh, work and stuff. So it's like the first thing I've seen him in. I think they can recognize him. I'm sure I've seen him other things, but, uh, yeah, I hated that dude, but um, he got his, uh, come up and, you know, towards in. Yeah. But yeah, this one had like a big, uh, Japanese horror film, too, especially when you actually get the reveal of, you know, the creatures, like the very Japanese like and stuff. And, uh, at first, I didn't know that how to take it. I'm like, this is not what I was expecting to be up there, but, you know, I say, it kind of grew on me. And like, in city, it's ways that just grew on me. I guess, like a living entity, I guess, but, uh, yeah, this is a good one. Definitely a good one to watch with the lights off and stuff because it's, uh, I guess a real creepy atmosphere to it. It's definitely due for a rewatch too, I think for me. Yeah, I'm gonna check it out. I have a, I just recently got a new surround sound system for, uh, the main TV and stuff. And it is a fucking beast of a surround sound. Like, I want to hear all the little tiny, like intricate parts and all that I missed out before, you know, so I need to go, go back to this one. Oh, we're, we're having a snowstorm today. So, it's kind of like blends itself through rewatching that movie for me. Oh, and that's perfect, whether or two. Yeah, we're supposed to get snow here today. I didn't work out. It's only going to get down like 40, but it's raining all day, but no snowstorm for us, but still perfect weather to watch to keep her in snow or rain. All right. So up to your number four. Yeah. So this is actually my response to keeper. Now, keeper was on my list until I saw this movie. And I'll tell you why. It's a movie called Rabbit Trap. It came out September of last year, and it's, uh, it's a film, feature film debut, uh, by Brin Cheney. He wrote and directed this film. And it's very, very similar in some ways to keeper, like the tone and everything. Yeah. But it kind of hit me a little bit more and it edged out keeper. Like I didn't feel comfortable having both of these films on my list because they're very similar, um, just in tone and vibe. And this one digs. Well, they're both kind of full car films, but this one goes a little bit deeper because it takes place in, you know, in, in England, you know, yeah, yeah. And it's got a depth of tells in it who a big fan of his, he's always, always great movies. And, um, yeah. And actually, it's, uh, it takes place like in, in the 70s, I believe. And it's an interesting setting. Uh, it's like depth of tell and his wife are in the English countryside collecting sounds, like found, found sounds. Mm-hmm. Because his wife is like an experimental music musician. Yeah. Yeah. It's like such a cool, like, you know, like some, he's so dead. Patel is out there collecting audio of like nature and like, you know, wind and leaves and things like that. And his wife is creating these like bizarre soundscapes with it. So right then and there, that, that got me hooked. Yeah. Same, same here because I've seen this and it's going to come in a little bit later too. But yeah, that, that had me hooked to like new to experimental sounds. Fucking praxis horn. Come on. That's great. Yeah. And the whole thing just, it just worked, man. You know, the whole vibe of this movie just completely worked for me, man. And, yeah. So that, that's why that's up there for me. That's going to be, it's going to be an honorable mentions for me because it almost made my number six. There's, there's a toss up. But, dude, yeah, I love that kind of stuff. I've, I've always been told when I was younger, stay away from like fairy rings and stuff. And like, it's totally plays on that whole thing. And it's, it's a sad movie. You know, like, it's, man, like, there's no real, there's no real like, uh, there's no antagonist really to this. You think there is, but not really, you know, like, it's, this is kind of tragic, especially towards the very end. Yeah. And I think, I think that's probably why I think this one edged me out a little bit over, keep, because I mean, first, I think I saw them close together and, but they'd seen very similar to me. And I was like, all right, one, only one of these is going to be my top six. And I feel like rabbit trap was more firmly embedded in like actual folklore. Oh, yeah. And that element of it, the sort of ambiguity that there was no, no actual evil or good. It was just kind of like this, um, you know, very, very pagan approach to the whole movie. If you know what I'm saying, like, like the, the underworld and, you know, pagan mythology is not a bad place necessarily. And it's like, this whole thing with the fairies and everything, the fake folk and all that was like very, very interesting to me. Yeah. I think the director did his homework on this stuff, because it was a pretty right on with, you know, those type of traditions and stuff and that folklore, like, you nail it all that stuff. And this also having the mix of experimental music in there, which actually sounded really cool. The stuff she was making. I was like, oh, this is pretty bad ass. Like, yeah, yeah. All that was cool. Yeah. Great movie. Like, it's really close to making my number six. I would like, I would still say as I tie for number six with me, you know, it's, you know, a really good one. Yeah. Well, totally. All right. So we're down to my number four, which is a heavy hitter emotionally heavy. Jesus, this is a hard one. But, uh, yeah, that was a Stephen King's The Long Walk. Yeah, dude. Yeah. Man, you know, I've never actually read this novel or is it a novel or a short story? I can't remember. It's in novella. Okay. It's like one of the Bachman stories. Yeah. For some reason, I never got to this one. I still will eventually. But, um, yeah, so I kind of went in this one blind. But I knew the premise of it, you know, from some synopsis of red and stuff. And, uh, man, what a heavy hitter. A lot of great dialogue. Like, the actors were all fucking killer. I even, uh, I dug a Mark Campbell's roles in general. It was so weird and was out there, but it kind of reflects on today's society, you know, I mean, like big time. Yeah, scary way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this one hit pretty hard, man. And, uh, yeah, just the bonds that were formed with the with the kids and stuff as you're, you know, walking this fucking milded death or whatever miles to death, like the bonds and the relationships and all like when somebody died, it hit hard, you know, man, especially the ending and stuff like it was a hard hitter. You know, that's all I got to say, this emotionally want the heaviest movie I've seen this year and very good, very horrific in a, more reality-based way. And, uh, definitely one of the best Stephen King adaptions, I think, even though I haven't read the book, but I can, you know, from what I hear is one of the best Stephen King adaptions of this, uh, stories. Yeah. This one puts a five hour five for us over at Necromaniax. You know, I loved it, man. And, you know, this is definitely going to show up later for me too. But, uh, yeah, just such a somber film, man, you know, and, and, uh, like my take on it was like for years, we've been hearing about them trying to adapt this movie, you know, and I was thinking to myself, like, how the hell are you going to adapt this movie, man? Like it works so great as a, you know, in a literary, like, piece, but, like, how would you make an interesting film about this? But they did, you know, and they nailed it to, like, uh, supposedly for when I was reading, uh, the kids and all were actually walking, like a couple miles, actually walking more than a couple miles a day. So a lot of like the exhaustion and all was actually real, you know, to get those shots. And so I'm like, that's, that's dedication to the craft. And it was just so well done, well shot, and everything. Like, it's also a 10 out of 10 for me and my scores and whatever. It's just, man, what a great movie. Yeah. All right. So now we're getting into our, uh, our triumvirate here, our top three. So, oh, yeah. Yeah. So, uh, for me, it's 28 years later, which, uh, was like, that really, that very divided people are divided on this. But, um, you know, it's, uh, Danny, Danny Boyle and Alex Garland working together again. Um, you know, this came about back in June. And I remember, uh, we went, we went to go see it at the Alamo Drafthouse in Staten Island. And it was like, uh, you know, afternoon, like Friday afternoon kind of thing on opening day. And it was just fun to go see it in the theater. But also, uh, it just, I went in there completely, like, 'cause I didn't really care for, uh, 20, the second installment to this series. Yeah. Same here. You know, I mean, it was cool, but it didn't have the same feel as the first one, the first one, I thought was classic. Oh, 100%. And I had no idea where they're going with this thing. You know, and then right away, it just grabbed me. And, and that scene of them crossing that, you know, into the, um, you know, onto the mainland, whether the father and the son are like, basically marching into war. And they have that Rudyard Kipling poem being recited, and then the cuts of all this different medieval action and fucking violence and war, and then cut in with the, uh, the infected. And it just was heavy. Like, it just hit me hard about how it's just like, maybe the history of Britain and the conflict and war time and stuff like that, you know, just, and then it just, now there's a new war with these like infected. Yeah. And then from that point on, it took on this like very fanciful, like a, like a, like a sword and sorcery story, basically, you have like a wizard, right? And you have someone who's on a quest. And then you have all these, these basically orcs, you know, who are trying to like, get him. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah, they had big sword and sorcery feel. Yeah, you're totally right. Yeah. And then there's that wild ending with the Jimmy's, you know, they show. Yeah, that storyline, you know, it's, it was in the background, but my, my, my take is that, my, my feeling is that the new one is going to expand on all that the Jimmy's and stuff. Yes. And I've heard good things. I've heard a few friends have checked it out and I saw their reviews and they're saying it's great. So it's good to know. Yeah. I know Jeff didn't like this so much. Yeah. I've heard his reaction to it. But yeah. So yeah, my number three is also a, 28 years later. We're like a lining up by this. Pretty good, man. Yeah. Yeah. Did you look at my notes? But yeah, I should have thrown over there to spy on you. Yeah. I thought I heard something. Like, yeah, dude, this is a, I want just a little bit later. Last year and stuff. And I was like, holy shit, that scene on the bridge sold me to is when they're running back into like the, the town or whatever they're being chased by that fucking giant infected guy and like, just the way the sky looked and stuff. And yeah, it's so like, it's so weird. It reminded me a lot of the first film. The first film was very weird and shot differently and stuff. It wasn't so like, uh, I don't know how you, like, surgical, like the second one, where I just shot on regular film. And all of a sudden, this is more experimental. And I really dug that. And supposedly with this film, they shot all on iPhones, like hundreds of iPhones. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I read about that, man. That's crazy. This, the second movie was just like an adventure film. It was like, you know, the US was fucking, you know, we got these like special operators over, it's just so, I don't know. It's like, it's a pro-e, like, I don't know. I was wasn't into it. Yeah. I put these two films like the first one and this one are like avant-garde stuff. And then like the second film is just your regular old mainstream, like, you know, action, horror movie. You know, these are like on a total different level. And I really, really love it. And it's nice seeing a change up on the whole zombie thing because I'm so burned out on like, zombie movies, the walking dead, all that shit. Like, you know, how towns are ready to battle this and that and all the towns look the same. Everybody's wearing like the same kind of clothes. Like, this had a totally different feel to it. And I don't really consider like, uh, them to be zombies. It's like a whole nothing like creation of a different species almost, you know. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, there's, you can see like, there's like an evolution or something like that with these creatures, you know. And, uh, yeah, definitely respect to Ray Fines. You know, he's great. Yeah. Always, always great. The Ray Fines. Um, and that's a child who is Perry plays that, uh, the giant dude with the big dick, that guy. Oh, yeah. All those are prosthetics, by the way. Yeah. He's like, he's, uh, you know, of glory kickboxer, uh, been a big fan of his for years. Oh, okay. I didn't know that. That's cool. Yeah, it just definitely a beast, man. And, uh, yeah, perfect, perfect role for him. Uh, he played that well and stuff. But yeah, Ray Fines is the man like, uh, anything he's in, it should be pretty awesome. So, yeah, it's a crazy thing that I'm pretty, he was the same guy to play in red dragon, correct? He was, Oh, yeah. Right. Yeah. It's crazy to think that long. Yeah. Like, oh, yeah. That's Ray Fines, man. Like, yeah, he can do it all. Yeah. And he was in, uh, so many films, man, he was in that, uh, have you seen strange days? Yeah. Strange days is also, I know you all brought it up on the, uh, podcast out there. I was like, it's like, dude, strange days, man. Nobody ever talks about that movie, but that's a great one. Yeah. I, you can't, it's not really available, man. It's like, I have a DVD of that, but it's, um, I try to, because Tina's never seen it. My wife, man. Uh, yeah, she loves all this kind of stuff too. And she's never seen it. Uh, and I was like, oh, we need to watch it. So I dug it out. We're going to probably watch it maybe this weekend later on. Yeah, I'm checking for it right now on an internet movie database. And it always says a search Amazon. Like, it has nothing on there. So if I was you, I would check YouTube, of course, but you probably don't get the best quality, but it's probably on there. I came out 95. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah. When this came out, it was not going to be futuristic and it's talking about like the millennium and stuff. Like, it's weird. How it lasts 26 years ago at this point. Yeah. Time flies, man. Tell you the great Michael Wincott is in that movie. Oh, yeah. He is. Yeah. Yeah. The best voice ever, man. Yeah. Michael Wincott's awesome. Yeah. He just recently passed away, too. No, did he? Yeah. Yeah. Holy shit. That goes last year. Yeah. Yeah. How come I didn't know that? I can't remember how he, I think he did get what him in an element. I mean, double check this. What I'm on here with the assayant on IBD is still alive, but I swore so where he passed away. Oh, second here. We got, we got to take a little commercial break. We don't look for this real. No, that motherfucker is still alive. Why did I say he was dead? Somebody said he died because I know some people in New York that are friends with him. Oh, no, you're taking about that dude. The guy from Laws of Gravity, that guy died. Oh, okay. Okay. I got him confused. Michael Wincott's like Canadian. Okay. Good. All right. Michael Wincott. Good. I'm glad you're still alive, because yeah, he's got the best voice. And man, what a villain and fucking the crew, you know. He's, he pops up. He's like, he's like, uh, you know, here and there, he shows up, man. And like, he's like Joe Spinell. Like Joe Spinell is in like, I mean, he's not like Joe Spinell, but like, he's like him in the fact that Joe Spinell pops up. You'll, you'll be watching, like you're watching cruising or something, right? Joe Spinell is in that movie. Yeah. You watch Sorcerer, right? Yeah, he's there. Yeah. And like he is, he's like, he's a guy moving boxes. Michael Wincott, like you tune in, like he's in Romeo's bleeding. He's in like all these films, man. And it's like the guys, and he's like, his presence is felt, but he always plays like a supporting role, though, you know. Yeah. But he always like steals that role, you know. Yeah. That fucking voices, he's got like the best fucking voice, dude. Yeah. Yeah. He was his last thing I saw him in was a note, which I really like no vlog, you know, Goddamn was a good movie. And he was in that plane of like a film guy or whatever. I was like, Oh, shit. And without even seeing him, I heard the voice, like, I know that fucking voice. And he was cool. He's I enjoyed nob as well. That was a good one. Yeah, it is. Yeah. All right. So we're up to your number two. No. All right. I think this is a lot of people's favorite film of the year. And it's my number two and it's Weapons, which came back in August. The Zach Kregger followed up to Barbarian. Mm hmm. We've got, you know, Josh Browen and Julia Gardner. Once again, like a film that you kind of have no idea where the hell it's going. Until you get to the end, right. You know, and want creating another great character, you know, just like an uncomfortable film. The ending, especially. Yeah. I'm not going to give it away for right. In case anyone hasn't seen it. But and just atmosphere. There's a little bit of humor, similar to Barbarians got some sort of funny parts to it. And Kregger is a funny man, turned hard director, I think, right? Yeah. He was a comedian supposedly and like, he needs to stay in this genre. Like he's killing the Barbarian and this are both fucking 10 out of 10s. Yeah. It's like, it's funny. A lot of the, a lot of comedian types, comedy types can't make that transition. Like Danny Boyle as much as that Danny Boyle, Danny McBride, as much as I love Danny McBride. Comedy. He tried his hand at doing horror with the Halloween movies. Yeah. The first one was cool. The other ones are not cool at all. But I know that apparently he's a huge horror fan. But I'm not convinced that he can do a great job writing it though. No, unfortunately, unless he can change that around and maybe it was his writing partner, wasn't any good. So, you know, he's local to me. Actually, he loves somewhere pretty close by. So I'm surprised I haven't ran into him yet. That's awesome. I love Danny McBride. Yeah, he's funny as hell. I actually, um, we were on a tour and I was, we were in the South and we were eating at a, um, at a, uh, uh, the whole that's that chain there. Warflowers? No, no, not there too. But, um, uh, anyway, one of these chains that are down there, um, and we're, they have like the, the country you met boy, breakfast or whatever. Uh-huh. So, hey, we're ordering and, uh, and they had, they say on the thing, fixings. Yeah. So once you ask me when I wanted for breakfast, I was like, I'll get the, you know, the country boy breakfast with all the fixings. That's awesome. That's a cracker barrel right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Farmhand breakfast over the hills. Oh, yeah. Dude, they got some good fucking food, man. They're a chain restaurant, but their food's pretty good. Breakfast-wise anyways. Dude, I back, I back, uh, while, uh, with the whole cracker barrel, you know, I back, totally back there, man. It's like, there's a certain quality that you gotta be aware of when you're out traveling in the country. It's like solid, you know, breakfast, solid food, cracker barrel. I also, I fuck with Denny's, you know? Yes, love Denny's. Another one because a long time ago, I got food poisoning on tour twice in one tour, eating from these like greasy spoons, man. And I was like, you know what? I'm gonna stick with the chains when I'm out there in the hinterlands, you know? And, uh, because like you go in, I remember right after I recovered from the first bout of, uh, of food poisoning, I was like, we ate it at Denny's and I'm like, I have, we got air conditioning. It's like, you know, the menu's the same. I know that there's a certain standard that they have to uphold and it's not going to, I'm not going to get poisoned by the food. Yeah, you're right, man. Like Denny's is solid. If you can, they're closing a lot of them in my area unfortunately. They're like a staple to South and they're closing a shit ton of those or keeping their cranker barrels, but, uh, yeah, fucking love Denny's. And I have been also food poisoning on tour before. It was from Subway in West Virginia. I got a fucking regular egg like breakfast sub or something. Oh my, dude, it killed me the next sat. I thought I was dying. I'm like, we had a show to play that night. So I just stayed in the hotel room and, you know, got sick all day until the show came time. It's like the worst dude. Yeah, so bad. Waffle House. We do Waffle House. That gets wild. I don't, man. Dude, every wallfiles are here. We're going after a show or something. It's full of cops because they have security there now. Yeah. Is it a fight to know, man? Oh, yeah. You only go there when it's like two in the morning. You don't, I don't eat wallfiles if it's daytime. Like that's if you're, you know, that's the only thing open. That's where you go to because, uh, it's a wild experience at any wallfiles you go on. We went into one, uh, somewhere in Georgia and had a fucking country band playing in there. So we're on tour. Yeah. We walked in there. Everybody just hushed and stared at us because I feel like we went to like a rally or some shit like a KKK rally. So I'm everybody looked just like, Oh, shit. I'm like, we still ate there, but very uncomfortable. Eyes were on us and stuff. Look at these fucking, uh, fucking demons coming in here. You know, it's like the house of the Lord. And that was somewhere in Georgia, man. It was that was wild. The, like, I remember we, we were in Louisiana. Like we, um, it was one of these nights where we had that we played New Orleans and we had a overnight drive to play in Texas somewhere. And, uh, so we left the venue after loadout and it was really, really late at night, but we needed to get some food for the drive. You know, I'm always the overnight guy. So I wanted to get some like coffee and like, you know, something to put my stomach. So we stopped at a, um, at a waffle house. And the first day, it was summertime was so humid down there. And all the windows were like, there was just condensation. You couldn't even see into the waffle house. Like that's how they were just obscured by like condensation. So we go in there. There's like, an obvious prostitute sitting in a booth. We sit down at the counter and like the lady behind the counter was like, looked like she was on steroids. Like she had like this like suit like a crew cut and like was jacked and wearing a sleepless shirt. And someone was sitting at the counter who was like a friend of hers or whatever. And she was just talking about how she just got out of jail. And like, you know, this is like, you know, her first job back in the population, you know, and I mean, waffle house. Yeah. So many stories. So many waffle houses. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, yeah, I'm like you're saying weapons. It's going to come up on my list too. Weapons is fucking awesome, man. And yeah, one of the strangest movies of the year, which I love because I'm a big fan of like weird fucking almost like, I think I brought this up before on an episode about the creepy pasta type stuff, man. Yeah. I just I love that weird shit. And there's no like defined endings to none of this stuff is kind of let you figure it out on your own, you know, and it's nothing is what it seems like I love that kind of shit. I don't like stories that are just like from A to B where I know where this is going. I love shit that like, you know, some crazy stuff is coming between there and break it up. And that's what weapons does. Yeah. That's I feel like that stuff is finally influencing mainstream horror and big budget horror like weapons. You know, weapons is not like a mainstream movie, but it came out of like a studio, you know. But yeah, like a lot of that creepy pasta vibes like is people being influenced by that in a big way. Totally and that's why I stand by channel zero. Nobody's ever seen channel zero. Do one of the best fucking anthology series ever come out ever and they're based off of creepypastas and some of the darkest most weird like nightmare inducing shit ever. Like man, I still stand by channel zero is one of the best shows ever made. I think they only did like four or five seasons and each season's different. But man, they're also good, especially that last one with the Rutger Hauer and it and stuff. Man, that was a good sendoff for him because I think he passed away pretty much right after that, you know, he was one of the best and that was a good sendoff for him. One of my favorite ones, though, is the one with the television show, the kids show. Oh, yeah. Dude, that's the first season. Holy shit. And there's got the teeth monster in there, which is, yeah, and all that came on the sci-fi channel. All places sci-fi had that on there originally. Then it finally made its way over to shutter, you know, yeah, that's where it's home is now. Yeah, I was like, man, that television show wanted the kids show plays on a little bit on that like liminal horror, like analog horror thing with like, you know, your memory, you know, you have memories of these things and then you find out that they might not even have existed or it's just like that whole thing, you know, like TV show that everyone imagined they were watching in the channel. There was this, you know, static. It's fucking crazy. Yeah, candle-coven. I swear, I had moments like that myself, like, this didn't exist. Like, it existed in a dream. Like, that's the stuff that gives me, that stuff that terrifies me, man, like, you know, just cerebral. Yeah, that's my favorite stuff, man. Yeah. All right. So we're going to my number two now, which thankfully, from y'all's episode, when you did this one, it really hit me hard, and that's going to be strange harvest. Really, man. Dude, I love strange harvest, man. Like, that was totally up my alley. Just, again, going back to like this liminal stuff, like this analog kind of stuff, it kind of fits in that world as well. It has a lot of that going on. This is strangers of everything. It definitely has to feel like seven, like, yeah, especially with the kills and all, man, the kills are brutal and they're just like set pieces and stuff. And then there's like these weird symbols everywhere. Like, I love that kind of shit. Like, definitely nailed that vibe. And the killer himself is creepy as hell, man. You only get to see bits and pieces of them, but when you do, like, very unsettling, um, it kind of reminds me of like, uh, the Bukipsi tapes a bit. Yeah. When it comes to, like, creepy ass killers and stuff, he definitely ranks up there with them. And, uh, I love the, uh, the cosmic aspects, especially towards then, like, all this, like, is adding up to something like he's not some bullshit. This serial killer. There's like rituals that are really going on that he's participating in. And, you know, there's kind of a big finish. Well, it leads to a big finish, but then kind of leads you wondering too, you know, it's not like a hundred percent. This is what happened. It's kind of like, you know, kind of leads you wanting more. But, um, yeah, it's definitely rewatchable, too, because like, I watched it twice. Um, yeah, because we did, we did an episode on it, and the second time around it, you pick up little items here and there too, you know, and, uh, yeah, dude, I love that movie. I'm happy that, you know, we, we turned a bunch of people onto it, which was cool. We got a lot of messages about checking that movie out. And, uh, yeah, it was, it all too. It's like, it's kind of one, it's like you were sitting before. It's like unresolved, like at the ending, maybe nothing happened. You know, to me, maybe it was like the ravings of a madman, you know, or maybe not, but you kind of know, you kind of think it really was real, you know. Yeah. And it's kind of like, did the killer ascend to that level he wanted to? Like, it kind of leads it up to you to figure that out. But, you know, in a way, I think he did ascend to something else, you know, that was his plan all along. I thought that was really cool. Yeah, you know, and it reminds me a little bit of like, arrow, arrow, children from, you know, true detective. Yeah. You know, he's in his mind. And it has that same vibe because I remember the first time I saw true detective, it was like, you know, had like a few episodes in. You're wondering, is this like, is there going to be like some monster, you know, like, you know, like that's kind of the same vibe as this. Like, you don't know, like, this is just like some guy who has this grandiose fantasy that he's following, you know, and then it also gets kind of lovecraftian, like, kind of kind of cthulhu, cthulhu, it asks when he's like, trying to locate texts and these books and all this rare books about the occult and everything, and it's just really cool. Yeah. And then like a parasite god type thing, like with the statues, I thought that was really awesome. Yeah, that's actually a reminder of you, like, cthulhu, quite a bit, because like, in cthulhu, there's like these little statues and stuff, you know, no, dude, this was so solid. Big 10 out of 10. Also, the acting was really believable. A lot of times when I did these type of like fake documentary style movies like that and kind of this, those all over the place, but this one was solid. Like, everybody did a great job and it was believable. Yeah. So it brings us to the coup de gras here, our number one. Yes. All right. Our death stroke here. So yeah. So for me, it was a long walk, which we talked about that earlier, everybody, it came out back in September. And that's a J.T. Mollner, who I didn't like his film, Strange Darling. I mean, neither. I didn't either, no. But he also worked on, and the director was this, was Francis Lawrence, who did Constantine, which I actually like. I did too. I still stand by Constantine, great movie. Yeah. That's Strange Darling. Not so good. No. The long walk masterpiece. I agreed. Yeah. That was just, you know, once again, just, you know, story told primarily through dialogue and storytelling. The movie adaptation differs a little bit just enough from the novella where it's so it's interesting. So you don't, you know, like, you know, there's that argument about, well, it's traced from the book, but it's like, yeah, you know, do you really want to watch it beat by beat representation of something you read already shown on the screen if you read the book or story? Yeah. I know. I'm not that way. Like, man, that gives everything away. You know, what's going to happen? Like, though something different in there, I like that. Yeah. So the ending's a little bit different, but I think it's, you know, equally as impactful, you know, that's cool. Yeah. Sad, very sad story, too. Yeah. Like I said, so fucking heavy, man, I want to, I was pretty messed up for the whole weekend after I watched it. And I was so so damn, what a downer. Yeah. So that's, that was, it was 2025 turn out to be a good year. Yeah. For movies, at least. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess we'll go to my number one now, which we already talked about, which was your number two. And that's going to be a Zach Kregor's weapons. Fucking, like I said before, great fucking movie. Weird. You don't really know what's going on. And they kind of leave it that way. And I got to say, anglattice is terrifying, man. Amy Madigan played her. And dude, that character stole the show. As soon as she, I mean, creepy enough that she's arriving like two in the morning or something, you know, and mean like, that's kind of weird. That's never good. That's never a good sign shows up your doorstep at two o'clock in the morning. The witching hour, man. And she arrives there and like the way she looks, because from my understanding, like he wanted to make her like seem like she was trying to be human, like a monster with human clothes on and stuff. And I totally felt that like disturbing. The first time you see her when she's in the woods, with like the crack head dude or whatever. And like Jesus waving at himself and something is so off about her. It's like it's terrifying, you know, like something so normal. She was like, oh, it's an old lady, but she's not, you know, it's like something ain't right. Everything's too bright about her, like very off-putting. Do you think we're going to find out more about her in another film where this is it? No, from what I've been reading on this, there's going to be a prequel after since this film's out there's going to be a prequel about Aunt Gladys and how she became what she is because he's kind of going into direction of monster possibly and you're going to find out, you know, how she became what she wasn't got her powers. Even she's kind of depicted more as like a witch in this, but kind of debatable. Like he's either going to monster or witch, whether he hasn't really said, but I felt more witchy in this, but yeah, there's a prequel coming out. So I'm looking forward to that. I think he's doing a Resident Evil first though. He's doing a Resident Evil movie and then he's working on this one. So we might have a few years ago before we get a new one with a new weapons prequel. I back him doing Resident Evil. That could be cool. I do too, yeah, because I'm a Resident Evil fan of the games. I love the series and stuff. The movies have been pretty, uh, they're all right. I guess they're fun, but they've never really like hit on the actual subject matter Resident Evil. And I think he can bring like a cool weird darkness to it that it deserves, you know, so. I am as pure entertainment. I dig the Resident Evil movies. Yeah. If someone like with a vision to go where that story, I think it'd be cool. Yeah, and I'm a fan of Mila Joy. All of it sure, how we say her last name there. She's awesome. And I watch her anything. She had a crush on her since like fifth element. So beautiful. Yeah. Have you seen the fourth kind with her? Yeah, dude. That's a good one that doesn't get mentioned very much. Yeah. That's actually that movie scared the hell out of me, man. The first name here. Yeah, because like almost alien possession stuff, you know, it's it's dark and yeah, that one, that one fucked me up pretty good too. But you don't hear much, you don't hear much about it, you know? No, no, I don't think people really liked it, to be honest. I really, I stood back at film. And the specifically the thing that got me was like when the person, one of the characters is being hypnotized to recall the vision of the owl that they see. And hey, I'll see you later. That was my wife. She's heading out to get her hair colored. Cool. Yeah. So when the thing that I loved about it was at one scene when one of the characters is there's the vision of the owl and, you know, she realized that it's not an owl, right? It's like, but her brain had to make some kind of description, had to make sense of it. So it became an owl in her memory. But like when she was brought to that recall with the hypnosis, it was a fucking alien. Dude, yeah. Terrifying, man. Like it makes you second-guess some of the things you think you've seen, man. Yeah. Well, they say like we only perceive things that our brain thinks is logical. You know, like we try to make things work, but you know, what are we actually missing? You know, we could, you know, that's why when you get in that kind of things, like there could be things around you right now, you can't see because your brain doesn't believe it to be a logical thing. So it's not real, but it is real. Like you could be cross dimensions here. We don't even know about. And that, I think I saw that film right around the time that I was really starting to like, you know, ponder a lot of that stuff. Like I was, you know, kind of going into these like deep dives about like perception and, you know, like what you're actually seeing and reality and how your brain filters out all this information and stuff like that. Yeah. So that's a good one. If anyone out there hasn't seen it, they'll definitely, definitely check it out. Have you ever done an episode of the Necromania X or that one yet? I don't think so. Have you? We have it now. Yeah, that's definitely good. I think Jeff would dig that one if he hadn't seen it yet. Yeah. Seems like one of you would dig. Or am I hate it? I don't know. Yeah. You never know. You never know. Yeah. All right. Cool. So you want to go over some honorable mentions? Absolutely, man. So I, I was keen on keeper. And that would have been my number six. If we'd done the number six keeper together, I thought was really interesting. Yeah. I dug that one. Yep. Yeah. Shrouds the Cronenberg film. Haven't seen that yet. Yeah. It's, it's Diara. It's definitely check it out. It's not for everybody, but I think you dig it. The VHS Halloween entry this year, I thought was one of their better, better entries. Yeah. See, I didn't, I liked the last two segments, I think, but the rest I did not care for. I was pretty hard on it. Actually, we did that our VHS, yeah, like on a Halloween episode, I had with Philip and Bianca and stuff. And I was pretty hard on it. I was like, man, I don't know. I just didn't, I liked the last like two segments. Yeah. Yeah. I remember listening to that. I beat up on it pretty good. Yeah. Right on. Yeah. Mother of flies. The Adam's family new film. I thought I think with every movie of these guys make, they keep refining what they're doing. And, you know, this, that, mother of flies was like a very intense movie, I thought. Still haven't got to see it yet, but I love that. I'm his family. I love having them as guests on the show like every year. It's so fucking cool. Oh, great man. Awesome people. Jimmy and Stigs, which is like the Joe Begoze film. Really cool. Like two, literally two people aren't it? It's an alien, an alien, an invasion film with two people on my list. Yeah. The death stalker remake. I want to see that. Oh, yeah. Steve, Steven Kostansky from the astronaut five crew, Canadian. And Pat and I was Walt does a voice in it. You know, he played like it's a live action film, but he's like, he's a special, his character is a special effect though. Yeah. Okay. Interesting. Yeah. And then streaming. Welcome to Dairy. Severance season. Long awaited Severance season two. Yes. And Alien Earth, which I know that you were kind of lukewarm on. Yeah. Yeah. It really finished me off towards it. I wanted to kill that Peter Pan looking mother fucker. And I just, I don't know. And didn't see an alien out in the day. Like kind of killed me. I don't know. I had good atmosphere. It just didn't do it for me. I thought it was really interesting. And it kind of like, it touches on a lot of like, sort of themes that I'm interested in, like with like oligarchies and technocracies and stuff. Like that. I'm hoping for a second season though. I will watch it. You know, I'm not dumb with it. You know, I'm going to give it a second chance with a second season. So we'll see where that goes. Oh, yeah. Definitely. I'm going to definitely watch a second season. All right. I get a few honorable mentions here. This one's on shutter. And it originally came on 2024 and like, you know, the festival circuit, but it made it here. Like, you know, actual, you know, streaming sites in seven, 20, 25, I'm not mistaken, but it's called free walka. And it's a folk horror movie. Have you seen that? You know what, man? I don't, I don't know if I've seen that or not. I feel like I have, but I don't think I did. I've heard a lot of mentions of this one. And this one is solid, dude. It's a, it's a folk horror movie with a, it's a nursing student who has, she just has to go like, you know, take care of this person and all this like weird shit. It starts happening, but it's, it's dark. There's some body horror involved in it and stuff. And, uh, yeah, it is perfect, uh, folk horror. And there's some, uh, monster action too in this one. So, I don't want to do it. It's great. I will definitely watch that. It sounds great. All right. So, we got that one. That was an honorable mention. I want to put centers on honorable mention because I did enjoy it. Um, it could have possibly made like a seven being my, if I did like a top 10, it probably made seven or something on there because it was a good movie. I just wished it was more, uh, vampire stuff going on. I thought the vampires and cells were a bit weak, you know, like, there wasn't much to them. You know, they're kind of like, kind of boring. You know, the rest of the movie was really good, but like the vampire aspect of centers, I thought was a little, little weak, but overall a fun. I want to make, I want to make one commentary about centers. And is that I did, I had, I, I didn't dislike it, but I feel like that would have been better, that story would have been better told as like a mini series. Yeah. I agreed. Yeah. I need it more time because it was rushed at the last part. Like the first part was nice and like drawn out in a good way, but then it was really rushed when the whole vampire stuff came in. It's like two separate films. You know, they, they felt too long and not long enough at the same time. Right. It was no dust to dawn because dust to dawn really nailed that thing where it turned into like a crime movie at first and the fucking all out, you know, splatter house, fucking vampire movie towards the end, you know, that's, that's how you do it. But this one here is just a bit too long, you know, if it was shortened up a bit, I think it'd be better. Next one I have, which I recently saw, and this one almost made the list. This is a hard one. This could have been tied for like a number five or something, but I really dug Bagonia. Have you got to see that? Yeah. I still got, I see that. I remember you recommended that. I still got, I still got to check that out. It's so in peacock and I think it's also streaming on Apple TV. I know some peacock and dude, yeah, it's great. It's by the director who did, uh, he did the killing of a sacred deer, the lobster poor things. You know, I love his, he's got a weird view on things. I really dig it. I like his whole like university creates, but this one follows right through with it and it has a hell of an ending man like ending is out there and it's, it's great. It fits with the rest of the film. And there's some really, really brutal moments in this one. Like out of nowhere, you weren't expecting that like super brutal, heavy stuff and that thing is really good. So definitely recommend Bagonia. Right on. Also, rabbit trap is on my list. I really enjoyed rabbit trap a lot. That was great. Like I said, it was a heavy movie sad, but uh, really good. Also, I got a controversial pick here. Oh no. Yeah, that I like, I dug this movie and I must be the only person that actually liked this movie. But I'm going to say him is a good movie. I don't know if you've seen it or not. I have it because it just looked like, I just didn't look interesting to me, but you think it's good. It's good. I give it eight out of 10. Yeah, I mean, yeah, if you look at it from like the trailers and the trailers don't do any justice, but it's pretty fucking dark, man. It deals with like a whole shit. Like, there's a big, a cult like vibe to this. And it's definitely hard. Just, and if you're not like, you don't have to be a sports fan to watch, it's not nothing like that. This is like, you would never, you would never know that from the trailer. They failed. Yeah, they make it look like a fucking, like as a sports film and this or that. No, no, no, this is a dark, a cult, like, satanic horror movie. You know, like, I mean, the name him, I mean, his infernal majesty type, you know, I mean, like, is it playing on those words or not? I think it is and uh, dude, it's, I like it a lot, but everybody fucking hated it. It looks good, but it sucks. I'm like, I don't know, man, it's weird. It has all is, yeah, I mean, it's, yeah, you got to check it out. Let's give it a chance. Isn't that like max or something like that or HBO max? I'm also on peacunk. Oh, okay, cool. Yeah, I know it popped up somewhere. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, don't go by the fucking art forward and out of that stuff. Just check it out, dude. It's dark and has some really fucked up moments in there and a lot of let's say the cool occult stuff that, you know, we all dig and stuff and has all that too. Like, yeah, it's a good one. I liked it. Like, but everybody seems to hate it. So, but check that out. Oh, let's see. There's any other ones here. I have, oh, yeah, the surrender. That was another really good, like, uh, folky type satanic occult horror that's on shutter. Have you seen that? I missed out one too, man. That's another one. I gotta put on my list. Yeah, check out the surrender. Now, it's a slow budget, but uh, done very well. And uh, yeah, if you're in like, you know, the cool cult stuff. This one, I definitely scratch that itch for you. Like that one a lot. Um, also, I'm gonna say my, uh, I guess I give my most disappointing movie of 2025, which I, I went into this one thing. No one is probably going to be bad. I just, the reason I even watched it because all the reviews about how, how, how, how it's all like blasting me and stuff. And I had to check out what blast me like cool and Nick Cage is also in this. But I think I told you about this. I said to avoid it, but uh, the carpenter's son, absolutely horrible. God, this is so fucking boring, man. It's so bad. Uh, Nick Cage, his part planned like, uh, Joseph, I believe, like he was cool. Like his part was just the whole movie in general was absolutely fucking boring as shit. And it's a Bible story anyways. You know, it's still Bible stories and fucking boring shit. But uh, I was waiting for like the blast math. I thought I was gonna see Nick Cage covered in blood and guts and shit. I thought there's could be more like, you know, a lot of like him going crazy killing people. So there's none of that kind of stuff. It's very, very boring. But um, the way they do like, uh, Lucifer in this is very boring. And yeah, I highly recommend avoiding this one at all costs. But I just checked out because it's like, oh, this is the most blasphemous movie of the year. I'm like, oh, cool. And then you see the trailer. You see, uh, blood and guts and all here and there. But yeah, that's a bunch of bullshit avoided. I think disappointing, man. I was actually until you, you, you, you know, gave me the heads up on it. I was kind of like, gonna, you know, excited to check it out. But, you know, yeah, it was, it wasn't a good man. But I took the bullet for everybody. And uh, yeah. Yeah, I was like, man, I paid for, I actually paid for that thing. I rented it like $6 or something off Amazon. So I was like, man, can you give my money back and get refund on this? Well, well, this coming year, there's some cool stuff to look forward to. We got the new eggers film. Yeah. Well, yeah. Do please be good. I'm sure it is. I mean, the way he's done it, all those other stuff, I think you'd do it justice. Yeah. Yeah. There's another film called Pleigs, which is out there, which I want to see. Oh, yeah. I've heard of that one. That seems pretty good. And then, uh, bone temple, the 28 years later, uh, follow up. That's we were planning on checking it out this weekend. But there's like snow storm and, you know, I don't know, yeah, I'm not going to go. A bit treacherous out there with things. Yeah, like we, we don't go to see, we hate AMC. We're boycotting AMC. It's a fucking sucks. It sucks going. Yeah. So that the one theater that we want to go to is like 25 minutes from here. And uh, if the weather's bad, we're not going to really just want to deal with the, you know, deal with it. Yeah, I totally agree with that. And those big theaters are pretty horrible. We have a mom and pop place like maybe 10 minutes away from us called the terrorist theater. And they're fucking awesome. It's like all school 90s theater. You know, no I max none of that stuff is run by like, it's like family owned and stuff. And as soon as you walk in, the floors are done up like, the shining. So that's always cool. And yeah, they have like a giant skeleton outside. So, you know, it definitely know there's genre. And uh, that's who we support. So yeah, so that, but there are there's definitely some cool stuff. And I think isn't Thanksgiving coming out like the new one. I believe so. I think so, you know, I was solid. The first one. Yeah, me too. That was fun. It reminded me like early 2000s-ish type shit, you know, but it was good. Yeah. Yeah. So hopefully this year be good for harm and uh, there's some like 10 out of 10s this year that really hit home. Like like I said last year was only like maybe two 10 out of 10s. So we'll see. But uh, yeah, dude, this was a fun as always and stuff. And uh, yeah, um, can we do some more episodes with you? And uh, definitely want to get back to doing our 20 peak stuff because I'm ready. Yeah. I get so off on that, man, around the holidays. Things kind of like so off on it. Yeah, busy and stuff. But uh, you don't want to get back on that, man, and get back in that whole universe. Definitely now, because I need that, you know, to get away from all the chaos in the world. So every day is bad news, man. Yes. Every day, every single day. So we need twin peaks. We need to stay in that universe. Yeah, man. Well, this has been fun, dude. Um, I hope you have a good rest of your afternoon. You two, man, enjoy yourself. Oh, yeah. We'll talk again soon. You got it. All right. Take care, guys. Later. [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music]

Podcast Summary

Key Points:

  1. The hosts discuss their top six horror films of 2025, noting the year started slow but finished strong with several notable releases.
  2. They share personal media recommendations including horror books, comics, TV shows, and upcoming films from directors like Panos Cosmatos and Osgood Perkins.
  3. The conversation includes a detailed review of "Bring Her Back" as a standout dark film, comparisons to past horror works, and broader discussions on genres like extreme horror and sci-fi.

Summary:

In this podcast episode, the hosts review their top six horror films of 2025, acknowledging it was a weak year initially but improved significantly towards the end. They highlight "Bring Her Back" as a particularly dark and effective film, comparing it to French extremity horror. The discussion expands into personal recommendations, including books like "Between Two Fires" and "Hyperion Cantos," comics such as "Spawn" and "Absolute Batman," and upcoming movies from acclaimed directors.

They also touch on broader genre trends, criticizing some extreme horror for lacking substance while praising works with supernatural or philosophical depth. The hosts express optimism for horror in 2026 and encourage listeners to explore other related podcasts and media.

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They discuss their top six favorite horror films of 2025, including 'Bring Her Back' and mention other notable releases from the year.

They express anticipation for upcoming films by Panos Cosmatos and Osgood Perkins, hoping 2026 will be a strong year for horror.

They recommend books like 'A Little Heaven' by Nick Cutter, 'Between Two Fires', and 'Hyperion Cantos', noting themes of horror, sci-fi, and dark fantasy.

They recommend podcasts such as 'Everything Went Blank', 'Into the Necrosphere', 'The Necromaniax Podcast', 'Spitbo Media', 'iBus Manifestations', and 'The Solenox Podcast'.

They describe it as a dark, unsettling film reminiscent of French extremity horror like 'Martyrs', with great acting and a non-happy ending.

One host did not like 'Talk to Me' despite others recommending it, while the other enjoyed it but preferred 'Bring Her Back' for its darker tone.

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