Tony Hale and Santino Go Deep on Comedy, Faith & Hollywood | Whiskey Ginger
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Welcome to Whiskey Ginger, a Wave Series. Presented by FanDuel.
Tony Hale joins Andrew Santino on Whiskey Ginger for a hilarious and
surprisingly deep conversation about his role in Toy Story 5, life after
Arrested Development, playing Gary Walsh on Veep, navigating Hollywood
with his faith intact, and the stories behind some of TV's most beloved
characters.
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00:00 β Intro
02:31 β Tony Hale is a Gin Guy
10:41 β Santino Should Play An Irish Role
14:38 β Toy Story 5 and voicing Forky
26:40 β Santino's Favorite Arrested Development Joke
38:33 β Tony Hale grew up in the south
43:03 β Journalism and Comedy
50:47 β Talking About Pee Wee Herman
56:39 β Faith In The South
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I'm Bobby Lee.
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Yeah.
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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to Whiskey Ginger.
My guest today is one of my favorite people on earth.
I say that for all my guests, but once again today, it's Tony Hale.
For today, I'm your favorite person on earth.
Yeah, today. Cheers. Cheers.
I'm drinking gin, which is very rare for me.
I'm a whiskey guy.
But for you. Your publicist called and said. I do like gin a lot.
He doesn't drink anything but gin
and have a full bottle ready for him.
Sounds like such a douchebag.
That's what they said.
Gin and pink and black M&M's.
I do. We have the pink and black M&M's out there.
And we will bring them in.
Tony, thank you for coming.
I can't do whiskey.
For some reason, it doesn't work with the stomach.
Are you British?
What's your ancestry?
I think I'm a bit of a mutt.
I did a 23andMe a long time ago,
and it was just a plethora of different things.
You don't have one thing that dominated?
No.
You seem like you might have been a little Mayflower-y.
Hale? What's Hale?
Oh, Hale is a stage name.
Because my grandfather was an opera singer.
His original name was Johnston,
and he didn't think that was work, so he changed it to Hale.
Okay, let me. Johnston?
That's off the boat.
The Johnstons have come by.
Oh, hello, Johnstons.
That's true.
So you came from something good.
Something classy.
You know, I always wanted to do one of those
where you trace,
you know, you go on the show and you trace something awful.
Yeah, and they find out something terrible.
They're like, "You're a family-owned slave."
You're like, "You know what? Let's move on to the next. "
And then I just live with codependent guilt and false guilt for the rest of my life.
True.
But I don't know. A couple of my friends have done it,
and it really wakes you up to some stuff.
I don't want to know.
I know enough that my grandparents are. Just Scottish all around.
Irish, Irish, Irish, and then my dad's side, Italian, Italian.
So I don't think I'd find much.
Is your whole family redheads?
No, I'm the only one.
He knows my entire family.
Have you guys known each other for a long time?
No, he's become kind of a fixture of our family.
He was at my sister's wedding a week ago.
Wow. And you weren't there?
No, he subbed for me.
Yeah, tag team.
No, I think my grandmother had red hair,
and my mom is one of ten kids,
and one of them has auburn hair.
That's why I was the most loved.
The grandkids hated me.
Really?
Because my grandmother was like, "I'm the golden child."
You always hear the red-headed stepchild.
I am, too. I have a stepdad.
But then it's the opposite. They're not loved, but you were loved.
Not by my stepdad, so that actually was on course.
Oh, let's get into it.
No, he knows him.
He is the best.
You know what? I was loved.
Oh, that's good. You have a good foundation.
Well, some. But like any kid,
I'm an '80s baby.
All of my friends' parents are divorced.
Uh-huh.
You're late '70s?
Early '70s. God bless you. Early '70s, yeah.
Really? I thought we were closer in age.
Fifty-five.
Well, you look great. Thank you.
And for people at home, Tony stripped before the show.
We do that at most guests, have to get naked in the waiting room.
I did. Voluntarily.
You did. Yeah, he was like, "Check it out."
I walked in and I said, "Guys, I want to take my clothes off."
You're like, "That's so weird. I do that with all the guests."
That's what we do. Yeah, well, thank you.
Your parents were together?
My parents have been together.
Yeah, they've been together.
That's awesome.
Gosh.
Well, they're '87, both of them.
Still alive.
And I don't really know how many years.
Still alive. This screams Mayflower material.
See, these are good people. This isn't trash.
Everyone's dead that I know. I think everyone's dead and divorced.
But that's what Irish. Irish die young. Do they?
Well, I mean, they have terrible health.
And they drink a lot.
They drink a lot.
They drink a lot.
They drink a lot.
They drink a lot.
You know, Irish people very much.
Was the wedding a big drinking wedding?
Yeah.
Was the wedding a big drinking?
My sisters? Yeah.
My mom and my dad both drank.
My sister.
And she married a kid whose mom and dad are from Ireland.
Moved here in the '80s or '90s.
And they drink a lot, I guess.
Oh, God, yeah.
My brother-in-law is on the Upper West Side.
There's a bar called the Dublin House.
Kind of sad that I even had to ask that.
That means that there are people that I have known
that I just forgot.
Yeah, but that happens.
It happens a little too much.
'Cause I grew up in. You were asking me something.
No, I was saying there's a place called the Dublin House on the Upper West Side.
You know the Beacon? You know where the Beacon is?
Yeah.
It's five blocks away from there.
It's got a big neon harp.
It's on 79th and Broadway. It's on 79th. Yeah. That sounds familiar. That's my new brother-in-law's family's bar.
Oh, wow.
So can you imagine we like to. Like, I played a show at the Beacon, and they were all like,
"You're gonna come over to the bar, are ya?"
And I was like, "I think we'll bring some people."
They're actually. They're from Ireland. Oh, yeah.
And they're like, "You come to the bar, will ya?"
Well, sometimes his dad speaks, and I'm like,
"What did he say?"
But I play the game where I go, "Yeah, yeah, yeah."
And then he'll go, "For what?"
And I'll go, "Ah, fuck."
And then I'll have to admit, I'll go, "I didn't hear what you said."
So you have to try.
I worked with. Do you know who Saoirse Monica Jackson is?
Or Ronan. I don't know the other one.
Saoirse Monica. I did a movie. The movie.
I did a show called The Decameron, and she's from Derry.
Oh, wow.
And I. For a while, it was like,
I had to really pay attention,
and then once I got it, I got it.
And my God, she made me laugh.
They're so funny. She is so, so. Just such quick one-liners.
Their sensibilities are. They have to laugh,
'cause it's quite sad if you go up there.
Like, you don't have. You really don't have much choice
but to have a drink, have a laugh, and then. Like, did you see The Banshees of Enshiren?
I mean, it's. Honestly, I loved it,
but my God, the whole thing is so sad.
And then you hear the actors talk about it,
and they're like, "Yeah, it's a lot of that's. A lot of that's based on reality."
Can you, though, when you watch that kind of stuff. I am interested in this. Can you kind of
compartmentalize it and just kind of
go on with your day? It doesn't really affect you?
Yeah. I think. I think because there's. I don't know. Maybe this is. I have the. I like the beauty underneath all the sadness,
'cause I just see that first. It's great.
I just can't shake it. It's like,
I keep thinking about it.
- It ruins your day.
- Yeah, my wife's like, "You're an actor.
"What is wrong with you?
something and realize it but it's like there's something about i go yeah that might not be
happening but something like that has happened to someone and i feel like i'm watching it happen in
front of me see that so be if it's well acted like with those two guys yeah it's so good and
so powerful but i know there's some something so like like real underneath it yeah but it escaped
it takes me to that world where if it's like a reality show where people are being fucked up to
each other i'm like this is way more gross like because this is also manipulated by producers
and it's packaged and pushed and i'm like this is sad that makes me more sad when i see reality
type of stuff get gross and weird and publicized i'm like we're actually puppets i get angry at
that stuff you do i get angry because i'm like hey just fyi this is your legacy this is like your
your children and their children are going to be watching this as a representation of you
why are you doing this i know you know why because it's i get it maybe i get it when
someone goes on thinking maybe have
they think oh it might be this and then they wake up and go oh it wasn't so i'm going to walk away
yeah someone's like no i'm going to sign up again yeah yeah they do for like six more years yeah
that's what i just don't understand well i think what i've learned through just being like near it
with people you get to understand they're so good these producers at convincing the talent
that it's that's all show and it's just part of the gig and i think they've kind of like
mind fucked people into thinking that i'm not a producer i'm not a producer i'm not a producer
yeah you're going to get public hate and all that itself but it's all fake because you know you're
not that weird you're an actor i think they tell them they're acting and they just think like i'm
playing a part but you're like you're the part it's you you're the part and your issues are
obviously for everybody to see and there is something to be said about i do there's a part
of that i appreciate honesty walking through something but when you can see it really
affecting your life yeah and your family maybe that's a time to step away you know maybe well
i don't know i mean you've gotten uh you've gotten so much amazing work that you don't know how it
feels to be on the other side of not getting good work so how about that oh my god how about that it
is you know it's a hustle it's a constant it's a constant but you okay but you have one question
before you keep going have you ever done an irish part have i ever done an have you ever played an
irish character no i haven't oh do what i love to have you gone out for one no i don't really go out
in general yeah i live here it's great no i want my face
everywhere too you know what happens is uh i've done a handful of stuff i have a great time and
then other stuff comes down the pipeline and i don't know i'm like i don't know i bet you'd be
great i would love to yeah so did you hear that hollywood tony hill thing hollywood kids we gotta
get that kid that whiskey red hair red hair red hair we gotta get that kid in here no i always
used to joke i joked on this show but like um they never they never think of the redhead first
no screenwriter is like and the handsome redhead walks into the room
had to add handsome in there didn't you wow yeah good self no i'm saying they don't write i usually
do a masculine let's get the emasculated tony hill no i'm saying they always write the ugly
redhead freak oh i'm saying they never say like sure sure hey i'm not saying you're not handsome
you're very handsome thank you no but they never do that so every role that's for a redhead unless
it was for me is always like freak weirdo oh uh yeah yeah and then they're giving them most of my
even come close on to um what's the kid from my tanya what's wrong with my brain
oh paul walter hauser because he's like auburnish and he's sober and i'm an alcoholic so i just feel
like these two i'm really we're i love that right when you said that i was like uh-huh
before we before we get too deep because i have a lot of things to ask you to talk to you about
this is very nice to be here by the way thank you i'm so happy to have you i'm gonna i'm gonna kiss
your ass a little bit in a second but i'm gonna try to like slot it in so it doesn't get too deep
and it doesn't feel disingenuous um because it's real because we talked before the show i was like
i gotta be careful about people i actually really like telling them to because we have a lot of
people on the show that i hate he knows most people i would say high majority of the people
that come on the show i can't wait for them you can always see when a talk show host doesn't
necessarily like yeah well that's why i love letterman he was so great at kind of like
shoving it down their throat i also felt bad for those that i loved it that was my favorite
it's because leno never did that leno was very like
complimentary and kind of played the game letterman was very obvious about who he didn't
see this is this is a real gift i mean you have a gift of you can handle that like i if i i can't
watch that stuff like for instance did you did you have a hard time watching uh uh what's the
sasha baron cohen movie borat borat oh loved it okay it's fantastic i was out of my skin oh it's
fantastic i i was lasted five minutes and i was like did you laugh he's acting he's a run for the
hills
all he was doing was exposing who people really are and yeah here's the thing yes and but at the
same time they didn't know they were gonna be on a movie screen and i don't know there's something
about the frat kids that sued him yeah i mean granted yes yes it's who you really are i guess
it's almost absolutely you know but i don't know the whole just anytime i anytime i know someone
is doing a bit it's that uh pranked kind of stuff but anybody i know and they don't i'm like
i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know
i'm easy on it is because there's cameras in front of their face now when it's hidden cameras
then you're being super deceptive but if there's a camera in your face and there's a guy who's
playing a character was there a camera in their face on borat yeah they were yeah because they
were pretending they were filming a documentary documentary the cameras are exposed so if there's
a camera that's how they got a design release the first thought you would think would be like
i better watch what i say on a camera but they got so comfortable with him and his racism that
they were like you know what i don't like browns either and it was like it was like just being
honest yeah it was tough but i get i get you not liking that yeah yeah but that's why you
that's why you're sticking to voiceover easy plug here toy story five
just stick
to animation i mean it's the best job in the world you know i'm so that's so cool i gotta
be honest though i it wasn't until i heard my voice in the trailer that i thought the whole
time i was like they're gonna switch me out you thought a recast was coming 100 why well just
insecurity and uh i i'm i'm such a pixar fan yeah and i think they have such layers to their work
totally that i just like
you
oh they're this is crazy this is not gonna happen and because they they initially brought me in
because they said we're thinking about you for a character and they said spork and i was like oh
okay let me get let me get my heads around that and then they added buster's voice or gary's voice
to it to see what it was like and we had this whole kind of play time about finding his voice
but then after it you're like yeah they're gonna i'm sure they're gonna grab jack black you know
or something they do often grab jack black but it's like just thinking that's and then when i
heard my voice which is maybe two months before it was released i was like oh my god i'm so
i was like oh they kept me that's awesome yeah well you were do you have imposter syndrome
let me think imposter syndrome like i would say with my voice because i never i was always insecure
about my voice and because i had this voice teacher tell me tony you don't have anyways by
the way i said this earlier you don't have any resonance you don't have any resonance you didn't
say that before we started rolling before we started i said he's got bigger resonance you
might want to increase my mic and i had always just had this insecurity and i was like oh my god
he's got bigger resonance you might want to increase my mic and i had always just had this insecurity
and then through doing a lot of voiceover and just more work i've gotten more confident
but i think that's that's always been a bit of a that's gross anxiety that teacher was wrong
he was but it's amazing words man like words why didn't they stick with us like that of all the
praise and the great things you took something a teacher told you one time and you were like you
don't have any resonance yeah and he was he's in an acting school that i never ever mentioned
then i went there for two years i mentioned this i mentioned this place called the barrel group
which i loved and they like made play out of it and i was like oh my god i'm gonna do this
acting rather than like work like nice work you know it's like okay settle down but like this guy
was just an ego head and he just really messed with me was it a case of those who can't or was
he successful at any point i think it was not a case of those who can't i think it was a case of
got a lot of power out of very fragile artists oh god and feeling kind of empowered by how much
these artists worshipped him yeah and needed the and needed and needed his approval and did you
like it and he kind of said yeah i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know i don't know
sat on his throne and felt it god i don't like that i'm we're not going to mention hey my editor
joe joe put up the name of the of the school right here and so on seriously well don't don't do it
don't do it no but uh but the voice thing i i know what you're thinking we did um bobby and i did
bobby lee and i did a movie that's on netflix now called goat that's about like oh yeah congrats man
thank you it was cool but the whole basketball yeah yeah steph curry company produced it about
like a you know young
yeah yeah young kid making it to the league yeah but the whole time bobby every recording session
um which he wouldn't do we couldn't do without each other because we're super insecure so we're
like we need to be with each other i love your friendship by the way well we're it's we do need
each other i think we work well together and we're both announcers so i was like we should be in the
same room they're like you don't have to i was like we'd prefer it and they're like it's a
scheduling nightmare i was like i don't care it's way more fun it was way more fun sure sure sure
and they got so but the whole time bobby kept stopping like he'd go out for a cigarette break
he'd be like come can you come outside we go outside and he'd be like i don't i think they're
they're gonna fucking they're gonna can us and i was like you know why though is it bad he's like
it's probably i think it's bad because you just look in the booth and they'd be like that's the
thing one more that that's the thing what people don't
Well, maybe they do realize.
You're in a room where there's a glass partition.
You have your headphones.
You do your bet.
Everything then goes silent.
And then you just see people's mouths moving.
Oh, my God.
It's so anxiety-inducing.
About you.
And then they're always looking around.
And they're looking at each other going, I don't know.
And then one guy in the back goes.
And then they push a button and go, hey, great job, Tony.
And then they let go of it and go, I don't know.
It creates it.
When there's seven executives in a room, and then they chat, and then one guy goes.
Guys, great stuff.
And you're like, shit, it's not great.
That means they just said, not great.
Be nice.
Tell them to do it again.
We're also performers.
We're analyzing every behavior you're giving.
Yeah, you're staring at them.
I am just analyzing everything that's going on.
Hey, it drives me nuts.
However, what I loved about Pixar is everybody was in the same room.
There was no division.
Whoa.
So not the actors.
We were all separate.
But the director and the script, everybody's in the same room.
And it's super collaborative.
And there's no division.
Wow.
Yeah.
But the rumor is.
And you told me this before the show.
Tom Hanks didn't even do it.
It's all AI.
So it's.
I disagree.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
I'm kidding.
But I did find out his brother does a lot of his.
Oh, this is in a tier?
Other stuff.
Yeah.
His brother does do.
I think it does like toys and stuff.
That's so cool.
I love that I'm the one drinking here.
I'm going to drink.
I'll chug this whole thing if you let me.
Okay, hold on.
Before we go.
Because I just want to plug some of the new stuff that you have.
Because it is very cool.
You also have.
Oh, my God.
Why can't I say her name?
Aaliyah.
No.
Aaliyah.
Aaliyah.
Sorry.
Shawkat.
Shawkat.
Yeah.
Now I had a brain fart.
Aaliyah.
And I think about Aaliyah, the singer.
That's why.
Rest in peace.
Rest in peace.
R.I.P.
Your movie comes out.
With Aaliyah.
Oh, that's so funny.
Are you doing a movie with them as well?
No, I am.
That's so funny.
Because I.
Is it Summer Girls?
It's Wrong Girls.
Wrong Girls.
We did this movie together called Being in the Ricardos.
And when you said that, I had a moment where I was like, oh, Andrew, that's way past.
No, no, no, no.
No, see, you have a new one.
But you're right.
You have a new one.
There's one coming up in August with her.
And a movie with Brett Goldstein.
Yeah, called Office Romance.
That's cool.
He's a really cool guy.
Yeah, he's funny.
Do you know you met him?
He's funny.
Yeah, very, very funny.
Do you know I saw you at this Netflix party.
At Sarandos' house?
Yes.
Oh, yeah.
Two weeks ago.
I saw you and I saw Bobby.
Yeah.
And it was so hot out there.
And I was like, it was so lovely.
It was a really nice party that they threw.
And I had this moment of like, oh, I should say, I like them.
I should say hi to them.
And then I was like, no, I'll just stay where I am.
We did the same thing.
We literally said the same thing.
He comes up to me.
He's like, do you think I should say anything to David Letterman?
And I was like, no.
Don't.
Leave him alone.
That's insane.
What would you say?
Hey, I love you.
And he'll go, sure.
Yeah, awesome.
And then pat you on your little head.
And you'll come back here.
I was like, leave everybody alone.
Just get out of here.
I also.
He also got it.
Did Bobby get a haircut?
Yeah.
Well, he keeps changing his style.
Because at first, I had not seen him in a long time.
And I saw him and I was like, is that Bobby?
He lost a lot of weight, too.
I think he lost 35 pounds.
Oh, maybe that's it.
OK, yeah, yeah, yeah.
GLPs, baby.
They're working his magic.
I've just talked to a friend the other day who lost a lot of weight without GLPs.
And he's like, I'm really mad.
Yeah.
He goes, I feel like the people who got their school loans taken care of.
He's like, I'm the guy that's still.
I paid.
He's like, what the fuck?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Why did I pay?
I could have waited?
Yeah.
There's habits, though, that are being created in him that's probably.
That's good for a long term.
Yes.
Yes.
Yeah.
He's doing great.
But yes.
We didn't say hi to anybody.
But I did prank him afterwards.
He left early.
I told him, you got to be the first out.
Don't wait.
Just leave before anybody.
And then he called me on the way home.
Did I tell this story?
You look a little bad.
I called him on the way home.
And I said, he's like, what's going on?
I was like, dude, you should not have left.
He's like, why?
I'm like, I'm inside of Sarandos' master suite.
He has a theater up here.
And it's me, Letterman, Seinfeld, Chappelle.
And I'm naming everybody.
Like all the famous comics that he loves.
And I'm like, he's going to show us.
Old tapes, like old school, like stand-up tapes
that he's got from his vault.
And he was like, fuck, are you serious?
I go, dude, I got to go.
I'll call you back.
And I hang up.
And then I called Louis.
I called Louis C.K.
I called him and our friend Greg Fitzsimmons.
And I called them, told them.
And they were cracking up.
And they were like, are you going to tell him the truth?
I was like, I don't know.
Because he was going to turn around and come back.
I was like, maybe I should make him come all the way back.
So mean.
I told the truth.
I was like, don't come back.
I'm just kidding.
You also said that Ted asked you, where's Bobby?
Oh, yeah.
Did he?
And I was like, I'm covering for you.
I said you were downstairs by the bar getting food.
That's so great.
I had to leave before that picture.
They did a big picture or something like that.
And I am beautifully in the far corner.
As far away, Cherry was like, get in there.
I saw there was a lot of balloons.
Were there balloons in there or something?
No.
See, this is my, who said this?
My mom was like, what, what, that balloon?
There were, like, McDonald's Playplace balls.
Remember those?
Oh, yes, yes, yes.
And the photographer was like, throw them at me.
And everybody threw them.
And then half of the people's faces got blocked.
Like, half of the people.
Half of the people.
Half of the people.
Half of the people's heads are, like, behind a ball.
Also, so many comics, they're thinking in response to that.
Of like, you want us to do what?
I know.
It made me sad.
I was like, just a regular photo.
Yeah.
But that's the one they wanted.
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Louisiana.
Ginger.
I like gingers.
I do need to tell you something.
Yeah.
We got your test results back.
Will you read them off?
No.
I want to tell you that my favorite line in the history of Arrested.
I know we're going back, but. No, please.
I'm glad you're going back because I forget.
We both share it.
Oddly enough, because we joke about it all the time,
is the, like, this slow, incessant drumming
and Bateman giving that, like, great, like, heartfelt, heavy-handed speech
and then him cutting it by going,
Buster, you can't do that outside, buddy.
But your response made me laugh so far.
You say, Mom says it's too windy on the balcony.
It's true.
It was so funny to me.
I rewound it, like, ten times.
Because you think the funniest beat is going to be that reveal.
Yeah.
But the funniest to me is you saying it's too windy outside.
Also, you. It's so funny.
Also, you can't drum in the wind?
Yeah.
No, no.
But you can't.
But you're right.
Buster was right.
You cannot drum in the wind.
I can't hear my own drumming.
His logic was actually perfect.
Mom says it's too windy.
You know what's crazy, dude, that you said that?
I'm not kidding.
Maybe last week. So my wife and I, we just moved to Alabama.
Did you really?
Yeah, we just. A year ago, we moved to Alabama because we were. We needed to be closer to her family.
And then my family's in Georgia for various reasons.
And we bought this house.
And no lie, this is crazy, this even came out.
In our house, a bird got caught in the house.
And I have a broom.
And I'm trying to swat.
And it looks exactly like the scene where it's like a bird landed on my pillow.
Because I come in with a broom.
And I'm trying to get this bird out.
And I'm like. - What the hell has happened?
- That's so cool.
right out of that scene and then you killed it though unfortunately i killed this one
yes we had a we had a uh hummingbird uh stuck at crisis old an old house he was staying at
and it was in like the the um kitchen yeah and we were panicking because it couldn't get out i was
like it's gonna die if we don't try to guide it out and every time we try to guide it out it'd
come right back in the kitchen so finally someone was like i have it i looked it up we got um uh uh
water and then put um sugar or something something sweet inside of it and then put the tupperware up
to it so it went down to go get it and then nick took the ball it's in there and then threw it as
hard as he could outside and i was like it worked but i thought that could have killed the bird that
it could have hit something for sure like luckily it went right out the door but i was like what if
you missed he's like missing wasn't an option i guess that line by the way i just i just want to
tell you that oh that's nice to say and i i got to do the
newer season or whatever i did one little episode yeah i did a scene with bateman oh fun
oh was it in a car was it in the car rental it was uh yeah the stairs yes yes i'm used to a car
with stairs yeah uh it was a great i mean for me it was amazing because i was such a fan of the show
not of jason i hate jason jason's a loathe jason yeah but no but i was such a fan that i was like
this is incredible to even remotely touch it oh same i mean i i to this mitch was at that party
by the way did you know that mitch mitch hurwitz was at that party yeah i saw him and i was
so happy to see him because i hadn't seen him in a while i didn't know much this is also a thing
about the party i talked to bobby people were there that we knew said they were going didn't
see them there like i was like there's a lot of people there's a lot of people there but um so i
was i was and continue to be such a fan of the show but that was my first job and i was with
an amazing cast amazing writing and i was like what is because it was so layered at the time
comedy was you didn't have to think about comedy that much it was like one two punch you know it
was a very used and he there were so many jokes that to this day there's there's stuff i have not
gotten like if i'm completely honest when you said that about the drums i've forgotten about the
balcony and the wind yes it's the best line but it's like and this happened to me also where
somebody that joke where the doctor comes out and says you know he's he lost his arm and but he'll
be and i i was at a podcast and i said well one of my favorite jokes is when the doctor comes out he
says he'll be okay and somebody the audience goes no no no he said he'll be all right because he'll
just have a right arm and it was 15 years after doing that joke that i got the joke really yeah
that's great i just like so many layers that i'm to this day i'm just so grateful i was even a part
of that it was incredible i mean honestly it was like a show that i always kind of gauged comedy
fans when i talked to them about that show i'm like do you do you like arrested and people like
i don't know it's a yeah i don't i think i've seen it
i'm always like i don't like you and you're not good and you're not going to be a good comedian
i always felt like because if you didn't understand the fun of that show sure sure i was like man
you're that's a my parents never got it my parents to this day the only parents for sure never got
yeah no the only episode they liked was when martin short was on and they're like now he's
funny yeah that's he's fine i love when mom and dad do that well my dad grew up my dad likes andy
griffith to me to my dad is like the pinnacle of television sure like he's like that's a he's like
no role that you or any of your friends have done are half as funny as you or any of your friends
funny as barney fife and i'm like okay well i mean god bless you and he's right whatever yeah
whatever he's right yeah yeah it does it it is hard some people that i don't know if that's right
but i i whatever i'm gonna let him have it i'm gonna let he's gonna call and be like i heard
that episode with tony what was that what were you throwing me under the bus but he does do that
but he but i think if you didn't get that show like i showed it my wife like probably knows more
about the show than i do which is insane and i told her you know that i was coming here to do
the one of the first lines in the pilot and she always jokes around look what the gays have done
to me michael you can't just tease that out that's the it's like oh my god such a phenomenal way in
that you're like well this is gonna be a and her timing man oh my god walter's timing is so
solid yeah it's impeccable it really is and then you went on to do a real junker called veep which
i do think is one of the i mean what a what a tank show that was that thing was not a good nightmare
could not get out of there fast enough yeah it was bad um i
because the what was her name julia she was i just call her jlb she worked
no she is uh i mean it's always such because you've worked with really fun amazing people
it's always a gift when they're also really nice yeah you're lucky yeah it's awesome and julia just
came in and was like it's a team this is a team sport everybody has everybody's ideas is valuable
and i really miss that i miss the i miss the friendships you know you're living life together
and i miss that you don't think you'll do a like a long series like that oh man i would love to you
do oh you mean would i do a long series oh i thought you meant with veep because i would love
for the there's a period of time where the last episode where they kind of jump ahead and i would
love to find out a little bit of what happened in between because i went to jail and then she'd all
this kind of stuff but i'm like oh because i just love those people so much yeah no i well i'm saying
you there's no chance of them doing that again you think i mean i don't want to say no because
i haven't heard anything but i just i'm dreaming of it gotta be so i auditioned for the show 75
times for veep yeah i did i did i did a lot 75 no i'm being hyperbolic but i do think it was
probably like 10 times oh and julie was in one what was the character do you mind saying oh my
god it was a bunch of different stuff but one of them was they gave me like uh it was allison
jones and they were like um julie was in there to improv with me and it was um
they gave you the goal but they didn't want to fill anything else in similar to like how
larry did curb it was like yeah you have to let her know you're an intern and you have to let her
know that like something really bad is going on somewhere else like something happened yeah and i
had said that there was a a mainline break yeah upstairs and and there was human waste coming
through her office yeah and she it was awesome she left she did and i was and i literally called
my wife on the way home i was like i got it there's no way i'm gonna do this i'm gonna do this i'm gonna
do this no way i didn't get it two days later i didn't get it i didn't get it that happened to
me on that movie uh tooth fairy tooth fairy years ago it was with um the rock with the rock oh yeah
oh yeah yeah i auditioned for um uh steven merchant's part uh and i was in the room and
they all were clapping and i think the director even said something like i mean
whatever he says i'm like when i book you or something that really led to that when we when
you start shooting this yeah and i was immediately on the phone with my wife and i was like so we had
just had our baby i was like we gotta get daycare in vancouver like we gotta do this obviously and
steven merchant obviously is amazing but i was like come on like that roller coaster is exhausting
is there anything that you uh missed out on that like really hurt that you really really wanted
i mean because it's always you or zach efron that's who it is they either cast him or you
for every role yeah man please especially with my shirt off
um i uh you know it's if if i'm honest and you might feel this way too they also run together
because every time you go out for something if you really want it you know you put yourself into it
and you can't help but think how great it would be yeah and then this is what's interesting about
our business is we are our job and i'm sure you've heard this our job is to have our emotions on our
sleeve because we have to have access to them and we have to bring authenticity to it so if if i'm
having to be need to be vulnerable and i want it to be authentic i gotta go there vulnerability
however when it comes to rejection and be like hey let it go yeah yeah exactly let it go that
doesn't it doesn't work like that right you know you can't just switch it so i it's hard every time
it's hard it is hard i do think i i don't try to take it with me and being a stand-up helps because
we just used to like rejection and denial and now by the way also i think that is that's a that you
you've exercised a muscle that is a real gift to this business it also is it's also somewhat of a
detriment because you become so hardened that even the wins sometimes you're not as happy about
which i do think is tough a lot of stand-ups do this thing where even when you win big like louis
told a great story about he he was like it sucks that it's hard to know when you're in it as a
stand-up because of so much no no bet you know heaviness he was like i was going to the garden
to watch i want to
it was billy joel i think it was a run of billy joel but he goes afterwards only then did it hit
me and someone i think had said to him like do you know like of all the people inside of this room
the only other person that's been on that stage besides billy joel is you in this room and he was
like it was so powerful it like got to me that it was like how did i not feel that before like i
played he's like i played baddest in square garden and your brain checks yeah yeah it's kind of like
some of the venues we've done bad friends shows on there's like pictures of orson welles doing
like othello yeah bobby's just like getting naked yeah and bobby's showing his butthole and
othello was performing yeah no we did like the rhyming you know the historic rhyming you know
they put you in a dressing room they're like yeah they're like this is this is this was
johnny johnny's room or june's room or whatever and you're like really we're about to go show
his pubes in front of all these people on the same stage i will say though there is it's hard
not because there is a protective layer yeah of it's all it's all
the wounded child in us that just doesn't want to be hurt and doesn't want someone to
make we go like i'm gonna i'm gonna make fun of myself before you
make fun of me i'll get me before you i'll get you yeah so it's all that but
It's hard to get past that.
But as a kid, were you outgoing or were you kind of in?
I was, so I grew up in the South.
Yeah.
And for a kid that doesn't play sports, it's not a pretty picture.
Yeah.
So my parents were like, what are we going to do with this kid?
What's wrong with your boy, Tony?
He don't want to do nothing?
He won't throw a ball or nothing?
Oh, you want to dance?
You want to dance?
Go dance.
But let me get you a drink.
But they found this theater by the grace of God called Young Actors Theater and then signed me up for it.
And I kind of was a place, I was like, oh, I can be crazy and it's encouraged.
But it was, you know, you're called every name in the book.
We know the name.
We know the word.
We'll title it the episode, by the way.
That'll be what it's called.
Because they don't, back then, I think it's changed.
Back then, they don't know how to frame it.
You know, it's like, you're not into sports, you're sensitive, you're creative.
Oh, I know what you are.
I know what you are.
We know what Tony is.
Yeah.
No, we like him just fine.
We just don't want him over late night.
I'm not talking to him.
Yeah, I don't want to look him in the eye.
Oh, yeah.
But it's like, that's the category.
So it wasn't an easy time.
Now, if it's set, it's like.
No, it's not.
No, now everything is so.
Well, the internet in that, right, has helped people get, you know, it's like globalized
the states where you're like, everything is everywhere and everyone knows everything now.
I mean, there's more exposure.
So people in a small town now feel more comfortable being like, I think I want to try theater.
Whereas there was a time when you were like, I think I like theater stuff.
And people are like, what the fuck?
Are you?
You're like, what are you talking about?
Yeah.
It's easier to find a community.
It's way easier.
Yeah.
And there's more, there's more like, bigger.
Okay.
And I'm not generalizing.
My dad's from the South.
But now in the South, many metropolitan areas now are so progressive with their culture.
Yes.
That you're receiving so much more than you ever did before.
You know, my dad's from North Carolina.
Okay.
And different world growing up in the, he was in the Appalachian.
I mean, he was way up there.
That's a different world.
It is.
But now they have so much more access.
Like when we went to like, you know, like Raleigh, Durham.
You go to those places, like they're so culturally artistic and free and your brain goes to North
Carolina, but then you see it and you're like, oh no, this is not, this isn't.
Because we live in Birmingham now and it's just like Raleigh.
I mean, it's culturally, it's just.
It is.
A widespread.
And it's so, the restaurants, I mean, everything is so.
It's cool.
It really, really is cool.
But it's like, that's taken time.
Yeah.
A long time.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Do you think, do you think this is, do you think this is it for, you'll stay there?
Or do you think you're going to.
Oh, I do.
Yeah.
I do think we'll stay there.
Yeah.
Because I mean, I've been.
I mean, probably, I mean, you travel so much.
Yeah.
And our business, we travel so much.
But for 30, between New York and LA, we've been in there for over 30 years.
And so I think both of us were on the same page.
Once our daughter graduated high school, we were both on the same page.
So it was like, yeah, let's, we need to be a little closer to family.
And so I'll travel for work.
She graduates high school.
Did she go to college or she started the workforce?
No, she went to, she's at college and she loves it.
She's in a sorority and, you know, she's just.
You were in a fraternity.
I was in a fraternity.
Same as my dad.
Sigma Chi.
You're a Sigma Chi guy.
Yeah.
You know how much I got rattled because my father, I didn't join a fraternity.
He's like, what's your problem, man?
I'm like.
Wait, where did you go to school?
I went to Harvard of the West.
I went to Arizona State.
Sorry.
By the way, same.
I went to Samford.
People think it's Stanford.
And I'm like, no, it's Sam, not Stan.
Let them think what they want to.
I went to Columbia College, Chicago.
Yeah.
Not Columbia, New York.
Columbia College.
We all three went to the other one.
Yeah, exactly.
And you can see the disappointment in the face.
I'm honest about it.
Whenever somebody's like, where'd you go to college?
I'm like, brother, I barely went to school.
I went to a school.
Well, there's t-shirts at Samford that say Sam, not Stan.
It's great.
They own it.
You have to.
It's a great school.
Yeah, you have to.
No, I just wanted to get to the West Coast.
That's why I really badly, and I had a, as the story goes, my father went to Tennessee,
so did my little sister.
My dad was like, you got to go.
Yeah, yeah.
His best friend's son and I became friends.
They went to Tennessee together.
We used to go to see football games.
He says, what?
One day, Andrew, I'm going out to Arizona.
You should come with.
And I was like, what's in Arizona?
He's like, don't you want to do California?
I said, I can't afford California, man.
He's like, it's right there.
He's like, my cousin goes to ASU.
And I was like, really?
He goes, let's go see it.
So I fly out with them.
We have the greatest two days I've ever had in my life.
I ended up doing mushrooms on the stoop of the dorm I would eventually be in, which was
very surreal.
Whoa.
With these people that were hanging out, listening to music outside.
And I was like, I got to go to school here.
Now, it might have been the mushrooms, but. That is where you went.
That's not where you went.
I did go to Arizona State.
I ended up going.
So you went all the way through.
Yeah.
And I know that's a surprise.
Many of my friends did not.
No, it's not a surprise.
What did you. I thought you said that you did it.
What did you study?
Journalism and the minor in English.
Yeah.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Same.
Journalism, mass communications.
You know what, dude?
We're the same guy.
And I'll tell you, this is what people. Because they'd be like, oh, well.
I'm like, I use it every day.
Yeah.
Because if I'm probably with your material, if I'm editing something, I'm constantly like, what's the joke?
Cut the fat, cut the fat, cut the fat.
And that's all you did in journalism.
It's like, where's the point?
Where's the story?
Get to the point.
Get to the point.
I also think it helped me because I finally learned.
I finally took classes that like theory and practice and media production.
Or like I took classes that I was like, oh, this is cool.
I found the interesting nooks of how to make a thing versus like, I want to make things.
And someone's like, okay.
But I don't know how.
But I just wanted to learn about that.
So finally in school, I paid attention because I was like, this is fun.
High school for me was real hard.
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I did not want to be there.
Sure, sure, sure.
This is awful.
Yeah.
I was like, can I just go goof off and do drugs?
Did you also with your, I mean, it's such a gift because with your jokes, which you're a very funny man.
Thank you.
It's that thing of like, this is, we're circling around it.
What's the joke?
Yeah, get inside.
Just go right to the.
Did you do?
When did you, I know I'm making this about you, but when did you officially start doing standup?
I was 22.
I moved here, yeah, 06, 05, 06.
My, the girl I was dating at the time threw a knife at me and I said, you know, I think I'm going to move to LA.
I think I literally, we, we, we actually came here to look at an apartment together and we drove back to Arizona and I had all of this anxiety.
I was like, sure, I shouldn't move you here.
I was like, this is, we're kids and I'm going to fail.
So I was like, I don't want to move.
I don't want to ruin your life.
And she was like, I want to go out there.
I said, I don't, I don't think you do.
Like, I think you, she was being sweet.
She loved me.
She was like, I want to go with you.
And one night she had a couple of drinks.
We got into an argument and she threw a knife at me.
I was like, I'm going to move tomorrow by myself.
There's so many things in the house to throw.
That's a very specific thing.
I was like, I think I got to go.
I think I'm going to go to, so I moved here at 22 and I've been here.
I've been here ever since.
Man, just, do you find that, okay, if somebody said,
Andrew, I want you to speak at this conference on, I don't know,
vulnerability in comedy or something like that.
Would you, is that, does that make you nervous?
Because it's, or does it not make you nervous?
Because like, obviously if somebody says, I want you to do a set,
you're so used to that.
But if somebody wants you to speak on a topic, would that make you nervous?
Yeah, harder, much harder to do.
Not nervous, but I'd be much more, it'd be much more of a challenge of me
because I want to present it in a way where you,
you want to hit all the beats of like,
I want it to be funny.
I want it to be honest and also have, have humility in it.
Like you, I'd want all these things to be conveyed or stand up.
You're like, I, I, I know what I'm shaping up there.
Like I just did my sister's wedding and that was fucking impossible.
They were like, would you officiate it?
And I was like, this is really hard.
Yeah.
Because people also think, is he going to be,
he's going to be joking around the whole time.
Totally.
I'm not, it's my sister's wedding.
Like, and you're also not as a person,
you're not constantly walking around.
No, I don't do that.
So I thought, how do I do this in a way?
So I took a long time to like write it and work through it.
And it was really a challenge.
Sure.
So that was more challenging by far than doing an hour of standup is like,
let's go have fun.
And you're also kind of stepping into the Andrew standup character.
Yeah.
Some, a skin that, you know, very, very well.
Yeah.
Another skin takes a little more work.
Yeah.
I just have to put it on and I do put on other people's skin.
Great.
Who doesn't, right?
Who doesn't, man?
You got great skin.
I want to wear it.
No, what, like what?
Cause I just, I just, when you said that about,
I just did the commencement speech at my college and I was so nervous.
That is so nerve wracking.
It was so, and here, and cause, but people have the same.
thinking of like, hey, you're in front of people all the time, you do this. I'm so comfortable
playing on set or a character or something. It's taken a while, but I have that comfort level.
But standing up, being myself, also, it's like a wedding where it's such an important moment of
their life. You don't want to mess it up. And I mean, it was actually really fun, but I was
very, I was terrified. Did you watch other people's speeches? No, God, no. No, that would
influence you. That would psych me out. Yeah. Like I've seen a few, I've seen a few ones that I like
that are memorable in my mind. And every time I see those, I think, well, that I couldn't even
come close so that it would be. Yeah. So I'm not going to do it. Yeah. It would give me the most
anxiety, but also I'm never going to get asked. And it was very cool to say stuff that I wish
someone had told me. What did you deliver that meant the most? One of the things that meant the
most was I said, if I can tell you, it's like the value that you have today,
as a person is the same value you're going to have before, before, after any success that comes
your way. Even though the world will tell you, you have value. If you get this job, if you get 2.5
kids, if you, whatever, your value will stay the same. God will see you as completely loved and
tremendous value. And that was because it is true. The equation you get in with the world,
especially in this business of like, Oh, I think subconsciously, I think that, and it's like having
that immigrant, I don't know if they're going to remember it, but there's real power to like
somebody saying, Hey, I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. Hey, your value right now is going to stay the same with whatever happens.
You're right. I think it's, I think they, I think it'd hit more people than you think.
Uh, because we get a lot of people that sometimes send us these great fan messages that are like,
I don't think you guys understand. My life was in shambles and just having a laugh helps me get
through the bullshit because we think we're like, yeah, we're entertainers. We're clowns. We're
having fun. I want to make you laugh. I want to make you disappear for a little while,
but it becomes kind of, you know, par for the course. So you just kind of go through the
motions of having fun and doing it. And I think that's, I think that's, I think that's, I think that's
until people really say it's like, it did help more than, you know, so I bet you, you had a lot
of people that, I hope so. It is weird though, when you hear that, cause like people say that
I've been arrested or something like that. And it's, it's hard to frame it. Cause you just,
I see it as like, what? Like, yeah, it's like, I'm an, I'm a narcissistic actor. What are you
talking about? Like, it's like, I don't, but it is a service. Oh, big time. You're letting people
escape more escapism. I think we talked about this literally an hour ago. I was like, we need
to be more stupid and have more escape. Cause the word escape is like, I don't know, I don't know,
the world is pretty, uh, it's just too, without even diving in, it's just, things are kind of,
things are kind of sad on a scale where you go, man, I'm confused. Like everything feels pretty
heavy now. And it probably always has. It's not just now. No. Yeah. But you go through these waves
of society feeling a type of way. And the more goofy we are, or the more we let loose on stuff
and make people feel something else, I think the better we'll be. And just for a pocket of time to
be able to do that. Yes. Little nuggets. Cause it's not gonna, it's nothing lasts. Like I watched,
uh, the, um,
Hulk Hogan documentary, which by the way, I don't, do you, have you seen it? No. Is that good?
It's brilliant. I'm not, I never was a wrestling fan, but I was interested in the idea of this guy
and something they hit on pretty often is, or the people speaking about him or how, how at some
point he did kind of get lost as Hulk Hogan and not Terry Bollea. Like he didn't even know his
real name. Terry, is that right? Bollea? But yeah, no, I, I mean, I didn't either, but like
you have people who have known him for a long time that go, there was a detrimental part of
his career where he thought he was Hulk Hogan. Yeah.
Yeah. And that can happen. Sure. And it does in our business a lot. With Pee Wee Herman
it happened. People say it about you too. They go, that's, you know, Tony thinks he's
something else. He thinks he's. You hear these conversations all the time. No, but he got,
but he got lost in it. I think it was very eyeopening. It's a very, um, uh, you know,
what's the word? It's, it's a, it's a warning shot almost to the business. It did break
my, cause I saw that Pee Wee Herman documentary also. Did you see that? Awesome. It's so good.
And it was just the opposite. Like he didn't want to be, you know, he didn't want to be,
he wanted to be separate from that, but there was such an attack. People just attached it
to him. You know, that was hard. And he was so talented outside of that. It's so funny
that that's all people wanted him to be. Yeah. But that's a hard thing to escape because
sometimes typecasting is, is golden handcuffs. And so it's hard to like, you've managed,
you've been so dynamic. You, no one's tagged you with anything. You know, that's very nice
to say. I did this movie over the summer that came out this past summer that took us eight
years to get made. And eight years, eight years for people at home that don't know.
That's not that crazy. That happens all the time. And it was, I was so proud of it. And it was,
it's called sketch. And I was playing just a dad. I was playing a dad whose daughter is going
through this stuff and it's just a beautiful movie. Um, but it was nice to just be closer to
who I am, you know, just to have that kind of, you know, just normal conversation. Cause I love
playing my characters, but their Buster was always on the defense. Like everything he was out
he even had his hands up, always on defense. And Gary was like, you know, just this, and it's so
fun, but just to play a character that was closer to me, even though when this came out, I have to
tell you, we went with this certain company. We're thankful it was released the whole, the whole
faith community thought this movie was demonic. Why? Just ridiculous. It was ridiculous. It was,
well, this is a whole soapbox, but it's like, it, it was released on a platform.
There was typically a faith-based audience. There was a large faith-based audience because they wanted
to put us in screens. And I was very thankful for that. And a large part of their audience thought
it was demonic. And because it was talking about grief and there was, um, we described like inside
out meets Jurassic park. And it was just because it went past their idea of art and how just maybe
what they were used to is seeing this platform do stuff. And it was just absolutely mind boggling.
That P like people were,
misinterpreting the message.
I think they just, they maybe liked a pretty little package of life with a little bow on it.
They don't like messy stuff.
Sure, sure, sure.
You know, they,
It's like if you put the matrix on lifetime, they'd be like, I don't know, man.
Or even the Bible.
Yeah. They're like,
What actually happened in the Bible?
They're like, we don't, uh,
They don't want that mess.
We don't want that.
They like a pretty picture. And, and it's just also grief is messy.
Very.
And it's, and this was kind of, there was also these, um, kind of, there was monsters in it
because her pictures came to life.
And it was just outside of how they saw, you know, maybe what faith anyways, and it wasn't
even a faith-based movie, but since it was on this platform, all that to say, it was
a little bit of a rollercoaster.
But I mean, I think,
But it's a great film. It's a beautiful film.
Please watch it. Go watch it right now. You won't plug it. What, what is the,
Sketch. It's called Sketch.
Yeah. And where's it on right now though?
It's, well, you can get it on like Amazon.
Amazon Prime. Yeah. Yeah.
But I think that the, we did him and I, Conan and I just spoke about that, that we want
the, I,
artists are always like, I want people to like it. But the real thing you want is people
to be challenged a little bit. And so what that, that actually achieved the goal at a
better level where a lot of people probably did like it, but those that didn't like it,
it's probably because it challenged them. But isn't that more, isn't that more beneficial
than just like, it was okay.
Yeah. The art stuck with them. It didn't just come out.
Yeah. The art did something to them.
It is. It's as a person, cause I'm myself, I'm a person of faith and it's, I think that
hits a little harder. Cause I'm like, come on. Like this is, it's almost like, you know,
you take a picture of a tree and you take a picture of a cross and you go, what's, what
is, what do you consider as the art of faith? They immediately go to a cross and it's like,
that's a tree. That is a beautiful creation of God. And you're just limiting, you're putting
God in a box. He is so much bigger than how you think, you know? And it's, so it's a little
crazy making for me.
I get it.
Yeah.
Yeah. I know. Well, and also, uh, I, we always, when we have stuff like that, where we try
to do something subversive or whatever, that people kind of have this.
Intense reaction to, I'm always like, well, the people that get it, we'll get it. And
the people that don't, we'll don't. And that's kind of.
And it's challenging. You're right. I mean, it should challenge.
Yeah.
It absolutely should challenge.
Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, we can't all make super highbrow stuff like Madea films. We can't all do Tyler Perry
films.
One day. One day.
We will.
They are funny though.
They're so funny.
He is very funny.
Honestly, it's brilliant. It's the, it's, it's genuinely the most streamlined. What's
the funniest version that everyone is going to laugh at at this thing? And it's, it's
like, oh, well, that's funny. I'm going to laugh at that. It's ridiculous.
It's ridiculous. But I'm going to laugh at it.
It's a good character. Yeah.
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When you, because I'm interested, if you want to talk about it.
Please.
You grew up in, because growing up in the church, yeah? I grew up Irish Catholic, and
then we got kicked out because my parents got divorced, which you know is. Which, where is that in the Bible?
It's not.
It's not.
It's so funny
because Christ came and,
let's go to the Beatitudes.
It's not that.
It's for some reason
that it's just
the judgment is so heavy.
It's very odd.
They do this thing
where they're like. It is, I mean,
not to get. Go for it.
I won't say
a certain political person,
but like,
not say,
but even highlightously,
but in scriptures,
it says,
the fruit of the Spirit
is love, joy,
peace, patience,
kindness, goodness,
faithfulness, gentleness,
and self-control.
That's the fruit
of when you follow God.
Now, maybe I'm working
on two or three
on a good day.
Right.
But when I can't find one
in a person
that you're associating
with my faith community,
mm-mm.
It's pretty crazy.
That's not how it works.
Right.
You know?
Right.
And it's infuriating to me.
It is.
Who, I mean,
Christ was the one
who went to the woman
at the well
and was like,
you, I saw her,
whereas everybody else
cast her out.
Yeah.
Like, and for them
to do that to your family,
that is not Christ.
It just makes you,
it's very odd that. Oh, it just gets me.
Well, because a lot of times,
you know,
and I'm not pointing
fingers at them,
but a lot of times,
certain sects will decide
from a cultural standpoint
what they're okay with,
less so than what's
probably Scripture.
I think it's more
about culture.
And now,
culture is different, right?
That's a good point.
This was also a long time ago.
That's a good point
because I think people
are typically maybe
more afraid of the church
than they are of God.
Yeah.
They're more afraid
of the community
and kind of the group think
than they are of God.
Because that is,
also at the time,
particularly like
my grandmother's time,
it was imperative
to your sense
of communal worth,
was like being,
a good Catholic
or whatever you'd want
to call it,
or being a good member
of the community.
It wasn't even about
their belief.
It was about
the community of the church
and how people felt
about you.
Which also,
you know,
my dad grew up with
in the South,
even,
it's more prevalent
because there,
Southern churches more,
I mean,
he grew up in a small town.
They know everything
about everybody.
They can't wait to go.
Church is where
they go to gossip.
Church was like TMZ for them.
You know what I mean?
Where they want to,
they just want to tell,
you know.
Prayer requests.
You know who's doing,
you know who's doing terrible.
You know who we need
to pray for.
Exactly.
It's just,
it's a way to like spread.
Yeah, sure, sure.
Bless their hearts.
Bless their hearts.
Yeah, because my grandmother,
my,
in her basement
had a salon
and this was like
church 2.0.
that's right,
at a Steel Magnolias.
100%, dude.
This is 2.0 church.
It was like church existed
and then so did the salon.
Sure.
And these two things
were linked.
Girl, you get in here.
Yeah, yeah.
Sit down.
Let me get you some honey.
Listen, listen,
what I heard.
You need to hear
what I heard.
You know Gina.
Pull that hairdryer up.
I got something to tell you.
What did she say?
What did she say?
I can't imagine the amount.
But so,
so that affected
my viewpoint of it
because it was,
you know,
and then still had it
in another way
through a different
sect of,
of,
of Christianity.
But it is funny
because as a kid
I was like,
what are we bad
or something?
What is that?
What is that?
You know,
but it does something
to you as a kid.
Of course, of course.
You change your belief system.
And then you,
you question,
which is good,
but when you,
your life in the church
as a kid,
was it like,
was it you
and your,
and,
and everyone you knew
or was you,
you were kind of like,
was it your friend group
there too or no?
It was,
I think,
to your point,
I think it was more
the Southern community.
Yeah.
We were in,
we were in church.
It was more of,
it was kind of a social club.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't,
I wouldn't say
I probably formed
a relationship
with God
until,
until post-college.
Yeah.
Yeah.
When,
when kind of
stuff hit the fan
and I,
I woke up to the fact,
oh,
I need,
I need to lean
on something bigger than me.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
That's awesome.
And when people say,
I think it's,
you know,
in conversation,
like if they see
religion or faith
as a crutch,
you know,
I'm always like,
oh,
give me two crutches,
man.
Life is,
life is not easy.
Do you have a religious
wheelchair over there?
Because I'd like to rock
for life with that.
sign me up.
Well,
and then the other thing
is I saw it through,
um,
a bunch of different versions
because of my,
my parents' version
and then,
you know,
my biological father,
um,
who was in the program
where they find faith
very heavily
and that's a big part
of his life.
Yeah.
So I got two different
viewpoints of it,
which is why I kind of
feel the way,
I feel like I'm a,
a meshing of the two.
Sure, yeah.
Like I got the traditional stuff
and then I got a kind of
non-traditional viewpoint.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which ironically,
some people who are
very faith-based
judge the other side of it,
but you're like,
that's so funny.
Because they're finding
it a different way.
It has to be the language
is judgment.
I know.
And to your point,
like when people find out
I'm a,
my faith is very important
to me,
you always,
I always have to take
into consideration,
they're looking through
so many different filters.
You know,
the religious abuse,
the like,
I mean,
all this kind of stuff.
You have no idea
someone's story.
No.
And so,
it's always about
just trying to be,
or I try to always
be curious.
You're like,
please let me know
your story.
Yeah, let me fill it in.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's good.
Man, I got a bigger
crush on you now
than before.
Yeah.
I had one before.
Yeah.
Yeah, you know what?
I got a ginger crush.
This was his whole goal.
When he walked in,
he's like,
watch me make this guy love me.
He's going to get in the car,
call his wife.
No, what he was,
he was swooning.
He was swooning.
All I say is like,
mission accomplished.
She,
you hang up,
she opens a book
and crosses my name off
of people that,
she's like,
got him.
Got him.
That's who we need to last.
What,
it is cool to say
that you moved down there,
though.
I'm so interested
in moving away.
I wore this hat for you
because it's orange.
I do like that.
And it's Pixar.
Oh, it is Pixar.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, you're Pixar's
golden child now.
How many Pixar films
have you done?
Just two.
Well.
I'm thankful.
Two massive franchises.
Two, yeah.
Do you know what's so cool
about being in a toy story
is this character Forky
I'm so crazy about
and it's so nice
to be able to go back
and do him again.
Yeah.
You know,
because Forky just has
the,
speaking of curiosity,
he's just this like,
has a lot of questions
and,
and in this,
in the last movie
there was this character
named Gabby Gabby
who was kind of this
antique evil doll
that nobody liked
but Forky didn't really have,
he didn't put people in boxes
and he was like,
I think she's got good hair.
And would just want
to go brush her hair
and it was because of that
then Gabby had her own
kind of redemptive story
and you rarely see a villain
kind of be restored
or come to redemption
and in that movie she did
because somebody
kind of crossed over
and just wanted
to get to know her.
Pixar does that better
than I do.
Oh,
it's just the levels
are beautiful.
I don't know how
they're able to do that
so,
I mean,
and they do it so fast.
They're able to build
these films out
with such like deep,
they do the thing
that Simpsons did for me
as a kid
which was like,
it's for adults
and for children
simultaneously
that Pixar has found
a way to do so seamlessly.
I don't think,
I don't think anybody
gets close.
Oh,
a ball.
Yeah,
crying.
Just cry.
Yeah,
what was the last time
you cried in the theater?
Oh,
I think I'm going to say
in general,
I was like,
oh,
this morning.
What was the last time
you cried this morning?
Yeah.
I do like to cry though.
You do?
I do like to cry.
Favorite place to cry?
I do,
in the morning,
I journal
and so I'll cry.
You cry while you write.
I do like a devotional
kind of journaling cry
or just kind of sit,
I'll sit there
and then,
you know what actually
happens a lot?
Oh,
this happens a lot.
So,
I've been doing it
for about three or four years
where I try to journal
every day
and then on the day
I look back at each year
of what was going on.
Oh,
wow.
And so to see how,
I believe,
God kind of teaches me
through stories,
it's just so like,
cool.
I'm always blown away by it,
yeah.
Do you ever go back
and add to something
or like retake
something from before?
No,
I mean take it
and then,
just say this didn't happen
but this did.
Yeah,
by the way,
this wasn't right.
No,
you take something from before
and then you add,
if you're thumbing back
and you see something
that affected you
a type of way,
do you use that
to put into something new
that you're going through now?
yeah,
yeah.
Yeah,
yeah,
and it's also,
it's that
and it's also
if I'm going through something,
there's something
that was written
that's so in line
and encouraging of this
that's rather through a book.
There's an amazing author,
he was a Catholic priest
called Henry Nowen
and he was just,
he worked with a disabled community
and his writing is so beautiful
and so I write a lot
of his stuff down
and I'll be going through something
and just be like,
holy shit,
like it's just perfect,
you know.
We'll never see any
of these writings of yours
though,
will we?
No,
I've actually told my wife
that if I die,
to burn them all.
I'm a little too honest.
Wait,
why?
Why?
That's good though.
Don't you think
that would be amazing
to put together in some way?
It's honest
and it's also just like,
you know.
I didn't like my wife's shoes today,
you know.
Just kind of,
I don't know,
it's that kind of,
honestly it's that stuff of
do I want my daughter to,
I don't know,
I don't know if I,
yes,
because it's really,
you want to be as specific
as possible.
Yeah.
And somebody told me
to do a digital,
journaling
and I just like writing.
Don't do digital,
that's like the worst thing
in the world
because then it's there for,
then it's there for
someone else to take.
Yeah, yeah.
I feel like digital.
Because they have those journal
like locked ones
where it's all like,
you can lock it
but then I guess that's,
you know.
Something can get to it.
Yeah.
What are your thoughts on AI?
Cheers.
Cheers.
Well,
it's over.
They got us.
He's actually not real.
Because so much information
you're putting in these AI's
and it's like,
where's that going?
I know,
my wife and I spoke about that
last,
when we were watching
the Hulk Hogan documentary,
I talked about how,
you know,
there's a point of like,
people selling their likeness,
you know,
to the machine.
And I said,
I think it's only appropriate,
like didn't,
Bruce Willis did it.
Didn't he do it?
Didn't he sell his likeness?
Is that true?
There was a deal
that was trying to be made
to like buy his likeness.
I love that he went
to his sister's wedding.
Yeah,
it's amazing.
I think that's really sweet.
It was a videographer.
Bruce Willis did not
sell his likeness.
Do people say you look
like Benson Boone?
He does look like Benson Boone.
Well,
we call him,
what did I,
come on.
You call me Lord Farquaad
sometimes?
He's Farquaad,
my little Farquaad boy.
Okay,
well that's based on shame.
When he's got his hair.
Oh,
oh I see.
see we made you're too tall for that thank you we made him go to a group of girls at a bar when we
were out drinking and i go go tell them go go up to them and go have you guys seen shrek and they'll
inevitably say yes and then go it's it's me and it worked and they liked it it crushed it worked
very well and then i asked one for her number and then she said she was a lesbian she he get and
then he did this literally he went like i watched him do this and i was like what was the fist he's
like i asked for a number she said thank you but i'm i'm gay and he goes i instinctively just
poked my fist up as an ally as an ally he didn't know what to do but it was honestly this is the
funniest thing you could have done it was a good outro and then it was an easy escape it was a
good escape you were allowed to then bow and go thank you thank you for your time goodbye he
didn't sell it he didn't sell his likeness no so i thought he was going to why would he circulating
but oh to do future work yeah because because
he's unfortunately sick and he yeah and but but i did say i said look if if i was sick and on my
way out leaving my family money like i get that being like sell me because i'm going to pass soon
but i was like i i hope no one else alive wants to do that no we don't have any kids no he well
he's my son i guess right yeah yeah my 20 because i think people i don't know if people want to do
that to kind of leave something i know yeah but then you then who's in control of your likeness
when it's over yeah yeah yeah i mean that's the scariest
part i know a lot of people uh during cook i don't know them i heard they kind of sold their voices
yeah that was a popular thing to do and for a lot of money but then they have that voice for
and that's that's scary forever and then you end up doing like the the train or something
welcome to it's your voice on whatever city you arrive at yeah do you use ai don't mind it's on
your phone no i do yeah which one uh claude you use because i listen to a podcast with
oprah yeah heard of her yeah um and uh popular oprah is and they give i'm not going to get this
right but it's something like 80 percent of their gross is kind of given away to help stuff i don't
know this is such a there's they have a word for it's not he can look it up what does claude do
claude gives they get you saying they're not their majority of their profits are going to other
beneficial things it says uh the eight percent figure you're referring to comes from the high
computing and infrastructure courts associated with ai workload for heavy reasoning intensive
tasks computational cost can sometimes consume 80 percent of gross revenue leaving lower even
negative margins unless heavily subsidized by venture capital no i don't know if that's that's
not what he was looking for no type in oprah podcast 80 percent claude uh ai can you stick
around and do some of this for us if you don't mind could we switch he's going to do your job
from now on that's literally how you would do it because i'm wondering if that's it was
something like it says the pledge made by the co-founders of anthropic the creators of claude
to donate 80 percent of their personal wealth generated from the company of philanthropic
causes good that's right good so it's which i thought 80 percent of their personal wealth
which is a shite that's a lot of money and i like that and they're also very environment they're
environmental because of all the water and they're trying to because the water is the biggest right
water wind right they're trying to find a way to cool those servers off with wind because water
is expensive yeah well and we're just using
up fresh water we're trying but we're trying they're trying to figure out a way to circumvent
that but that is a long process i mean look it's here whether you like it or not i don't like it
but it's here i don't like it but it's not on my phone it's not on my phone no he knows i don't
use it i've never used it i've never used it you've never used it well unfortunately you used
it if you've googled because google now has ai internally built search engine so you don't have
a choice yeah yeah but i don't speak to a uh ai uh i'm cons okay app or what i'm considering because
i try to with apps and stuff you know like staying present and stuff is tough for me so hard so i'm
like excuse me get it out to the gen man all right but it's uh i'm trying to get rid of as many even
my browsers so like safari and some of my phone so i kind of my wife has a code that i can't
download anything really but i have ai because if i need a question or if i just have a question
about something like you know what's where's the restaurant i just use that that's that's really
your wife has you locked out she has me locked out like she has a code i can't my app store is
taken off my phone oh that's good and the browser taken off and i can't download or upload i'm
sorry i can't doubt i can't download or erase the easy transition here for me is this is a massive
through line of toy story 5 please it's tech oh it's tech it's really a great transition no it is
i mean it's it's the thing i thought about whiskey ginger knows what he's doing we know what we're
doing no but it is true it's the biggest one of the biggest when i saw the original the trailer i
was like oh it's interesting i always thought like when are we going to how heavily interjected is
that going to be into children's entertainment and that's interesting that they're that's what
i do love about pixar i don't think that they would have done another one if they didn't have
a story that's a good story and it's a good story it's so real i have not seen it yet so i'm i'm
curious it's really good you should see it you're good yeah you're very good i knew you'd see it
can you bring up the notes if you don't mind but you know that's my favorite comeback of anything
like if somebody did something and just want to throw out a joke i said i've got some notes but
it's like my favorite comeback good i have a i have a couple yes you did so good couple notes
couple notes um but just the you know the technology of it all just how to the toys
meets tech you know yeah it's so funny it's not like i sound like i know what i'm talking about
but it is it's funny it took him this long to talk about it because it's just so funny
so prevalent that we grew up with toys toys now are tech tech is a part of toys inevitably it's
become like teddy ruxpin was like a revolutionary thing that it spoke to kids yes and then after
that it was like well the toys were so removed from tech and now they're blending again to be
one so that's an interesting idea that like the ipad which is a massive piece of toy technology
to every friend i have with a kid yeah that it becomes like ipad in your face like i see a
toy in your face like i see a toy in your face and i'm like oh my god it's like a little toy
i know it's wild crazy that babies in the past 10 years were born into touch screen that's wild
you know i just i mean like i remember hearing about that and being like that's martian territory
yeah we're in space to touch something and move it that's nuts so that's what that is is minority
report man when he was at the oh yeah he was like zoom yeah wiping it away and i was like what is
happening and now it's happening and then do you remember in the first harry potter
when the people are talking on screens and stuff like that and i was like that is crazy and then
you go to time square and it's like everybody's everywhere constantly yeah yeah it did feel like
that was miles and miles away yeah no you're inside of it look at your whiskey collection
do people bring you to whiskeys we do have some over there that guy fieri brought me his blanco
tequila guy fieri i should say i always say it wrong uh that's from that porosis is vodka so
there's a bunch of others micked and that's from tom sigurnberg kreischer and then uh father time
uh jim gaffigan yeah have you ever had his yeah uh no i don't like whiskey wait why don't you like
bourbon we i did we you flew right by it it well it doesn't sit well with me there's something about
it yeah yeah yeah what about beers no god no definitely no i would say beers wines some wines
are okay uh uh whiskeys bourbons gin i don't even like vodka gin is the only one i'm like i like i
can handle well gin i respect that's why that's the only reason why we're having it i love i love
an ice cold gin martini oh yeah with a wash of vermouth and an olive and this and like a twist
oh he likes a twist yeah because i like the salty sweet now when you say the wash you like it they
just wash the glass but don't leave any in don't leave get it out of there get it out of there i
do i i saw some award-winning japanese bartender speak about this that you kept the glasses like
ungodly cold like frozen to a level that only japanese know how to do and i'm sure they're
all the exact same temperature yeah and they literally like
dip it like as if you were dipping a you know ice cream and in chocolate he like dips it in there
and lets it sit for a certain amount of time then he removes it in a way and it's so cold that he
like swipes it out and it like crests the side oh it's so good yeah that's only the japanese have
you been to japan by the way no oh you want to have the best whatever you like really whatever
i always say like whatever you like yeah they do the best version of that whether you're like i
want a gin martini or i like uh you know a certain kind of seafood or they do it in a way and they're
and it's usually like just one little old man who's been doing it for 58 years yes and he's it's
by himself just mastered it and you leave and you're like how much do i owe and they're like
40 dollars yeah for like the greatest experience you've ever had and meanwhile here you're like
go get a coffee for 1995 i had to have a talk with my daughter because she's at college and
this coffee generation you see in the credit card numbers pile unbelievable yeah it's bad
and it's it's the social hangout it's like let's grab a coffee let's grab a coffee and i'm like
do you have a card at your college yeah where you can swipe for food anytime you want right
but it's going to all the cool coffee shops no i know what are you gonna do what are you gonna do i
mean we didn't have that like i didn't know one friend i that's not sure i knew a couple of kids
but pretty rarely do i knew someone that had like a credit card of their parents or whatever now and
this is this is this is totally normal now i didn't have any friends i didn't have any friends
who drank coffee no no nobody not in college nobody drank no you drank a beer in the morning
at some diner.
- Right, right, right.
- You know?
an old guy what are you doing but now the coffee's nasty it's uh it's cultural but it's also sugary
sweetie blah blah i'm still old school i'm a loser i have i have a pot of coffee every morning at the
house and it's drip i'm old school drip guy i'm not a what what does that mean drip just a drip
coffee just an old school like a traditional mr coffee machine because now when you get a coffee
shop it's super like drip is like kind of oh yeah no this is like old school i buy it from the coffee
shop next door oh yeah yeah i bring it home i scoop it i i make a i don't make a full pot now
because my wife is like you're consuming a scary amount of coffee i i would i'd have like three or
four cups in the morning and then i have probably another one during the day don't you love that
like when you get it that warm and then that first set yeah you're just gonna sell my dog
comes downstairs my wife will still be upstairs i'll be looking out is your wife in the in the
business no no she's a human she's a regular human no she is your wife in the business she
was a makeup artist
yeah that's right yeah but but that's not the same as she wasn't she wasn't a performer right
uh l magical the great comic l magical says one headshot per household that was his rule
one headshot per household and it like singed into my brain kind of like the professor saying
that that nonsense yes one headshot per household and i was too i was argumentative i was like
people that's not true it happens the other way all the time and he's like how many are still
together i was like they're everyone's working on everything al was there
something that singed in your mind outside of that that has just really laid a foundation
ah like a quote like a quote a pass or just something that somebody said to you that
it has been always hard to shake oh that's really why do you have one in your mind
someone minds that voice yeah that voice still got you i think i think um
what stayed in my mind if you don't have a really good question no i have to think about like what
what pops into my head you know for me unfortunately it's like little it's snippets
or things that i think are facts that are told to me that i probably have regurgitated that are
not true or lies you know when you like hear a story or tell like i was i talked to uh
my whole life my we listen to irish music with my grand grandparents that's precious well but then
there were certain songs where i was like yeah my grandmother loved that song and i said this to
my brother-in-law's parents because i googled the facts of the song a danny boy you know
oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah
i thought that was like an old school like beautiful irish it's written by an english
guy british guy did it it was like a british pop song almost and you're like oh that's really
disheartening so like i think i've you hear things about like with traditionally something or
that's more what i do i'll regurgitate a thing i heard the melody was an old irish melody but the
folks yeah but the lyrics we know are from an englishman and yuck we can't deal with that
that's not gonna be and sorry no offense to you mayflower thank you i'm trying to i'm trying to
i'm trying to think of something
that's interesting you said about the stories because i have i recently went back to tallahassee
where i grew up and i gathered some high school friends together and um just like to you know
hang out and a large part of it was i wanted us just to tell stories yeah those stories because
i don't remember much and then there was a couple of them that i was like is this is this how you
remember it because when you tell something for decades yeah like have i completely twisted the
story and thankfully i hadn't have you seen the movie big fish
oh a long time i think it's one of the best movies of all time billy crudup here's why i think it's so
brilliant it's exactly what you're talking about and i watch it like i'll re-watch it like every
year or so because i'm fascinated with the idea of like we all do this where if people that don't
know it's a great movie billy crub's father is dying and he takes his new his now wife and new
child to go see their dying grandfather and he has a very uh disjointed relationship with this man
and as the story goes it's it's
his father's retelling of these life stories are always big fish stories like it was uh it was uh
yeah yeah but billy internally is fighting this thing to not call his father out all the time
like that you're a liar dad that's not what happened yeah but the the the truth of the film
is sometimes isn't the story better that it's a big story i mean that's the beauty of that movie
and it's done so well yes that you're like yeah what is better because it's not a harmful lie it's
like a it's a beautiful
he's telling it in a way of fantasy so it so it enhances the and it's it's theatrical i mean
because i'm sure you do this with your wife like there are stories that when somebody says something
my wife and i have stories that we just love to share together oh yeah and it's the experience of
i mean one one we we told recently of like um i had in the show i had to do in some much longer
story i had to do the sex scene i was terrified to do a sex scene because i've just never had to do
a sex scene because i've just never had to do sex scene because i've just never had to do sex scene
and i was so scared and unarrested unarrested it was unarrested it was unarrested development i mean
come on not right there but uh and i went up to my wife and i was like sweetheart i'm really
i'm really nervous i've never she's like i don't care what you have to do i need a new couch
mama wants drinks exactly she was like you tell them to get that camera
right in there get right in there now she does it much better were you really i was
nervous yes yeah like i haven't done a lot i have i've only i did a i did a show
called i'm dying up here where i had to do um the hardest thing for me was not even my scene i was
walking in it was the gym yeah yeah yeah i walked in on a sex scene and that was harder for me to do
because i have to jake lacy my boy my my love oh jake lacy one of my favorite people of all time
oh he's he we did being in the ricardos together i know he's so much shit about you by the way
why am i hearing about this now i know we should have emailed you this is so he's so kind to me
he's the greatest no he's actually a really great dude and he's a great actor and so i had a hookup
scene but like it wasn't that nerve-wracking ari grainer and and i were and it was kind of like
fun and we were smoking a joint it was like it wasn't like intense but the hardest one for me
like jake was having sex and i walk in on them and i'm supposed to like have this entire conversation
with him and they're naked and his ass is like in my face line when i first show up like he's
doggies now i'm standing there like this is so hard to do because i'm supposed to like really
be in this character like i'm upset at him i'm really mad yeah and also i'm i'm upset that like
he's hooking up and he's getting more success in the business than i am and i have all this stuff
but the whole time i'm staring at like my buddy naked it's hard to not laugh and you're like i
mean i've envisioned it but like it was just hard to be like if it by the way it would have been
better if it was strangers or actors that i yes had no relationship with yes that's oof it's hard
when it's someone you know yeah it was tough no but when you when you when you when when mama needs
a new couch mama needs a new couch and it was really tricky because it was i'm also like in
my 50s like i don't but the scene made a lot of sense and we had talks about you know what i was
comfortable with what i wasn't comfortable with but i've never had i've never had to do something
like that i mean buster bluth come on buster bluth come on who wants to say that but you do it again
now though another sex scene it depends really you think you might turn it down no i mean i well
that's um if it came up again well that again it'll if i go to my wife she'll say how much
that's all shit like how much are they offering i like your wife already she's smart because i'll
be like well this could be really destructive to my psyche and she's like we can pay for therapy
without money smart woman dude she figured it out she got a house she's like there's an answer to
my friend yeah just get naked and go do the thing all right i don't want to keep you longer i know
uh you're on a you've been on a big run but i appreciate you i love it this is so fun i really
appreciate you coming you can have this by the way because i'm not going to drink it but are you
going to be even is this going to be worth it to have um yeah you should keep it you should take
it with you i'm trying to think if i can pack it i guess oh i can yeah because it's not i don't
have a carry-on i can pack it yeah i don't have that at my bar take this like i have a bar in my
little area yeah do you have a bar we show the picture of his bar we'll spit up a picture of his
insane bar no but i don't have that at my bar i don't have that at my bar i don't have that at my bar
but um i appreciate you being here and i want every everybody will go everybody will see toy
story 5 uh it's such a i'm sure i say this it's going i've not seen it yet but i'm sure it's
gonna it's gonna be amazing it's gonna be amazing and and the other 37 projects that you're working
on if i do get down to the south hopefully i'll knock on your door dude i would love it i would
love for you to come as well coney okay well he will be the he's my he's with me if i'm there he's
there he doesn't go without me he's not allowed to go anywhere without me isn't that right
but it's also really you know when people come in town i'm sure when you go to town it's like
you know it's you're from place to place it's nice to have that kind of connection so i will
be bothering you in birmingham please let me know i'll bother you i promise yeah we end the show the
same way uh you look into that camera and you say one word or one phrase to end the episode it used
to be used to be um imparting words of wisdom sometimes people like to say one singular word
but either way keep in mind this will end up in the smithsonian we've already submitted oh really
for the rest of time we're going to one of many of my things am i right please i got a
emmy that i wanted one of them no what if i was like i would love it we actually we actually did
a bit lamorne lamorne morris oh such a nice guy happy gilmore he was at that netflix thing too
yeah we did happy gilmore too and one of the jokes which never made it into the cut was we panned out
and lamorne was there the whole time one of the like the villain was on bad friends yeah and and
he was like promote and then and then andrew and bobby were watching the golf climax and at one
point it cut over
revealing that while they were watching the game lamorne was on he was just on the show and he was
holding the m and he was like do we are we gonna get started anytime get started or something and
we're like that's great we're shushing him
away with his Emmy, he's like, okay.
I mean, I brought it. It was very funny.
We did, we actually
melted it down because we needed the gold.
Oh, is it gold? Money's tight.
It's not, well, yours are chocolate.
I just want to let you know. They told me it was chocolate.
Yeah, peel it back.
Daff camera, one word or one phrase.
Impart a word of wisdom. It could be funny, it could be sweet,
it could be whatever you want.
I have two.
Oh, please. Can I say two? You can.
They're both kind of heavy. Not heavy.
No, I like it. But I do, well, the first one
is when I booked, quickly,
when I booked Arrested Development,
it was my dream and it scared me because it didn't
satisfy me the way I thought it was going to satisfy me.
And it was, I woke up to
the lesson that if you're not practicing contentment
where you are, you're not going to be content when you get what you want.
And then, I always love to tell people
it's going to be okay. It's going to be okay.
In here, we
pour whisk, whisk, whisk,
whisk, whisk.
You're that creature in the ginger beard.
Sturdy and ginger.
You owe me $5 for the whisky and $75 for the horse.
Gingers are hell no.
This whisky is excellent.
Ginger. I like gingers.
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