Tom Segura on Surviving Joey Diaz Megadose, Discovering Andrew Tate & “Exposing” Garth Brooks Secret | #701

What's up everybody, welcome to Flagrant. Today we are joined. This is our first time. >> It's crazy. >> Yeah, this is wild. Thompson grows on a pod for that. Tom is wildly successful, stand-up comedian, podcaster, Italian bakery owner now. >> All right, true. >> Okay, which we'll get to this origin story. He first exposed Garth Brooks as a serial killer. I think he's very important that we know that. There's no sarcasm right there. That's an allegedly so we don't get sued either. He literally created the atmosphere by propping up Andrew Tate. >> Thank you. >> That 100% he has a massive podcasting studio business. There are all these things that he's managing. And he lost weight in the worst time in history because nobody believes that it was an honest. >> I know it. >> And you did it honestly. >> And not only that, my buddy Bert went on tour. And on tour in Orenas, he would be like, Tom Jabbin O'Zempick. And I'm like, "Oh, he's spreading that." >> No, no, good job. He's just on the top of the earth. >> He used to think he was like, "I never would. I would never do that." I was like, "Yeah, but you're fat." And then this year he lost like 50 pounds, and with Manjaro. With the chat. >> With the shot. >> Yeah. And people think it's because he was running two and a half miles. >> It's crazy he's alive. First of all, I love the 5k stuff that you guys are doing, but it's funny. My buddy Tim, that I'll leave his last name out. He goes, I have a buddy of mine who just wants to get out of the house. That's his thing. So he started running 10k's, and he tells his wife, "Yeah, I'm into these 10k's. That's my thing. I got to go to São Paulo and run a time track." He goes on a brazilian five miles. It's crazy how much of a, like, I prepare every year to do the 5k, which is three miles, right? Like, I have to, like, no, and then I meet people and they're like, "Start running." But I'm saying, like, I don't normally run. So when it comes to running, I'm like, "I hate this, but I do it." And they're like, "Did you just knock that out three miles?" No, not out of, I mean, it's like running a midtown. If you want to actually, like, not walk at all, for me, no. I have to, like, actually do some prep, but I meet people who are like, "What?" And they go, "That's like a warm-up." I go, "Not to me." I think the whole point is anyone can do it. I think a mile, yes, for me. Once I get into, like, two and three, I can't just do it. I don't know. How much you running? Not, but like, much. You'd have, like, I honestly believe that I could do a marathon. No, I mean, walking. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, in what time frame? I think on a slow, I think on a slow jog, I think. Downhill. I could get, yeah, I'm not going on with a bike. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I could do it honest, but I think I could do it. So I think you could do the three miles. 15-minute mile? Like, where? I think I could do the three miles. I could, I could average it in eight-minute mile. Really? Right. That means you have really good cardio then. I don't think I could do an eight-minute mile. Right now. But eight-minute is not, I mean, it's not at least, but it's not casual, dude. Like, that's a pretty, that's a pretty good pace. When I was, like, younger, I could do, like, a long amount and average in the sevenths. Really? I ran a five-minute mile once. Really? Not five-zero, but within five minutes. But that's why the three mile things laughable to you. If you had a five-minute mile, why would I lie about that? If I'm going to lie, I would say that I ran a marathon, and it's like two hours. You ran a five-minute mile. I ran like five-fifty-nine. Five-fifty-eight. Oh, okay. That's fine now. That's fine now. That's fine. That's fine now. How were you? That distinction. I was about like 25 years old. I was in my thirties. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's pretty fast, man. Yeah. Got my other legs, man. Got my other legs. I feel like I was going to get these things as I stress them out. Well, you could sprinter, too. Okay. Not like incredible top speed, but like, I could go. Yeah, go. Yeah. Okay. You caught up to that. A homeless guy pretty fast. Oh, yeah. There was a homeless guy who called me. San Francisco. We'll bleep that. And then, uh, yeah, we had a, you know, you can't call me that in San Francisco. No. I also think too. But I believe anywhere else I would put cash up to him. Yeah, I caught up to him. Uphill. Uphill. What'd you say? Fucking walked away. Guys, I got homeless. I think I got my senses to me. It also uphill is hard. So by the time you go, like, I'm winded. Yeah. There's nothing like going on a run and seeing like, like, you're running and then either like an old person or like an older, fatter woman goes past you and you're like, not dude. Oh, yeah. And then you have to like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to dial in. You're like, I can't let this happen. Just getting rinsed. Okay. Listen, Tom, there's been a really important development. The reason I started about, you know, all of your successes is because I want to let people know that despite all your successes, you have a crippling addiction to DMT. I actually had to put that thing away. So I had heard about it for years, right? It's not even fake. I heard about it for years. And then one of my buddies was like, like, last year was like, you want to try it. And I go, yeah, I want to try it. Yeah. So there's two ways you can do this, at least that I know of. One is you get like the real thing. Sort of like you can get weed or you can get like a vape pen. Got it. Yeah. But DMT, there's both are also an option. You can get like the real crystallized whatever it is. Yeah. Or a vape pen. So the first time I do it, I do the real thing with him. And the experience that I have is like auditory and some visuals. And it is like a few minutes thing that then you're it's over. I go, yeah, that was cool. Like I don't have like some profound revelation. But I'm like, that was a, that was a cool experience. Nice experience. Somebody else, no, sorry, same guy goes, hey, do you want, I have a DMT vape pen. Do you want to do want to do that? And I go, yeah. So he gives me one. I'm on the road. And I do it. And I have the same kind of thing where it's like, there's colors and there's some things. And then he tells me he's like, you know, you really got to do a pool. Like you really got to pull it if you want to like go there. And I'm like, I mean, I am. I'm like, now, that's a those vape pen. You do a hard. This one, the one was terrifying things that ever happened to me is I had had two or three times with it where I was having that. I'll just call it like a mild experience. Okay. Where I go colors. There's things, but it's like, much over. I'm like, yeah, it's pretty cool. I mean, some hotel on the road. And I do, I'm alone in my room. And I just, I go like one, two, and like the third pool is like as deep as I can go. My eyes are closed. And I'm like, I'm cold. I feel cold. So I'm going to change. I'm going to get up and change the temperature. My eyes were closed. I open my eyes. And the whole room is sketched drawn. Right? Like it's white. Black and white. I stick my hand out this black and white. And I'm like, no. And I get up and I'm looking, everything's, and I see a mirror and I go, I get so scared because I'm a sketch in the mirror, sketch in the mirror, everything's black and white. Dude, I go to the thermostat and I reach out to it. I'm like, there's no way. And I just, I jump under the sheets, get in the fetal position. And I mean, a level 10 panic, absolute panic. I cannot believe that I've broken through to like what people are talking about. Yeah. I don't know. It can't last that long, maybe 10 to 15 minutes. Yeah. Once you get over like the, I don't want to open my eyes because I don't want to see the sketch thing. So you start actually thinking about other things and then slowly open your eyes and you're like, holy shit. It's starting to fade off. And I was like, that was the wildest experience I've ever had. How long are we talking? I think this whole thing lasts about 15 minutes. Okay. Wow. But the sketch thing is not imagined. It's really what I'm seeing. What I'm like, that is terrifying. And I do it again the next day. I do it the next day. Same hotel room alone. Yeah. And I'm like, I want to see if that happens again. And it does. It's the same thing. The same thing. It's just that everything in the room is sketched. What is in your subconscious? I don't know. Something to see. God's heaven. And then I start to go like, with this pen, I'm like, all right, I wait a wait a few days. I do it again. I go, I wonder if I do it with not as deep a pool. What will happen? And it does become two different things. Like a mild experience or the I start doing and doing it. And then I tell the guy, I was like, yeah, I'm like, did it like four times last week. He's like, you really shouldn't do that. I go, what? He goes, yeah, you can get like, I think it's like serotonin poisoning of basically of your, or you're releasing too much of it. Right, right, right, right. So I have to like, take the pen apart. And I put one piece here and one piece at home so that I don't have it with me. I think it's like nuclear. But I got at least got to the point where you could have an experience where you actually feel like you have it, you know, your mind works where you shelf things. And then sometimes you come to life. Yeah. And so I was able to have some experience like that. But it became, I wouldn't say addictive, but like how really? I mean, I haven't done it in and months and months and months. - But when you were on it. - I was probably doing it like three or four times a week. - Jesus Christ. - Did you have shows that night? - The next day. - And you were girls like I hope I can remember it tomorrow. - Yeah, yeah. - Hold on, so. All right. (laughing) You're relegated to your only DMT experience is seeing sketch. - Well, that and then having, once you get over the visual aspect of it, you feel like you could have more profound thoughts. - Okay. - Do you have any interesting revelations? You know, I thought about like, there's just like people, you'd like thought about like my dad who died and things like, you'd think about like things like that, relationships with people and having like almost like truth serum to yourself about it. - Yeah. - That felt more profound, kind of honest moments about that was. - Yes, yeah, yeah, exactly. - And did you like talk to any of those people? - No, I don't think I, no, I didn't talk to them. It was really more about like, - I'm saying afterwards. - No, no, no, it was, for me it was more like facing those fears or realities in yourself. - Right, yeah. - And just for you. Just for me. - And you didn't want to like, go apologize to somebody. - Fuck them. (laughing) - Just restorative for you and no connection to those people. - Well, I don't think it's so much that is as much as you go. Like, this is something that I haven't really processed and I'm processing this thing now. - Yeah. - And it took this moment that was definitely enhanced to have that revelation for myself. - The experience on DMT versus getting dosed by Joe EDS and the real version, not what you, - Oh my God. - There, 'cause there's the stand up debt. - Yeah. - And then there's what actually happened. - He's such a fucking animal, dude. - Can you tell us the actual, 'cause people know the thing. - They know the stand up debt. - This fucking guy. So, everybody was making fun of me because I like a mild edible. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And, you know, people who are take a lot are always like. - I'm a milligram that. - Yeah, so, like, oh, that's all, what are you, bitch? - Yeah. - You're like, but I like this. - Yeah. - You know, it's like somebody being like, you don't. (laughing) - Why don't you eat your food? - Your own five-cat. - Hotter. - You know, 'cause I don't want it. I don't want to burn my mouth. It was wrong with you. Like, I don't know, it's what I like. So, I was telling everybody I like 10 milligrams. - Okay. - It's like 10 milli-ton, they cut 10 milli-ton. So, I'm in Miami and I have a show. And I see that Joe is also in Miami. I go, you're in Miami, I go, I have a show. I wanna come see you. He's like, well, come over, I have a late show. Come see me here. So, I go over to see him. And places packed. My sister comes, she's like, I wanna see Joey. And I'm like, yeah. We come hanging out. We were hanging out backstage in his green room. And he's like, he's like, yeah, I know you 10 milli-ton. I go, you some 10 milli's. I go, really? He's like, yeah. He has a jar. And he pours him in his hand. He goes, here you go, I go. 'Cause I know, I know the Joey stories. - Yeah, why would he even have a 10 milli? - No, I know. - I know about Joey. Exactly. And I'm like, I know he doses people. So I go, no. And he's about to go on stage. So he has like five of these in his hand. And he goes, and he eats them. And I'm like, they can't be that much if he had five. - You gotta perform. - Yeah. - I go, all right, I'll take one. So I take one. And literally, as I go down, he goes, oh, I go, what, he goes, nothing. I go, come on, man. So now I'm in a, 'cause he's not telling me anything. - Oh, that's even worse. - Yeah. - So I'm like, what is it? He goes, it's a 10, I told you. I told you it's a 10. I go, all right. So I go out there, and I'm with my sister. And she's like, what's wrong? I go, I don't think I just ate 10. I think I'm gonna be fucked here in a minute. And she's like, really? I go, yeah, there's no way. Well, he comes out, and he does a show, and he is murdering, and on point, and doing all his thing. And about 45 minutes in, I'm like, this is 10, right? This is not 10. And so, as it's people are leaving, we're waiting to talk to him more. And then it starts to really hit me, that I'm, fuck, like this, I'm combing my toes, and I'm like, yo, dude. And I'm like, what did I take? He's like, 10. He keeps saying that I'm like, this is 10, man. And it starts, I don't even realize this 'til later. Later on, I keep processing that he had five, and that with five, you can do a show, like how insane that is to me. 'Cause I used to do, on the road, I would go on the road with Rogan back in the day, and he would always be like, hit this joint, I'd be like, I don't wanna hit a joint, and get on stage, like, I don't want it. And he's like, do it. Bitch. (all laughing) - That's fine. - All right. - One time, you're a presser at 30-year-old. - Oh, no. - You sound easy to peer-press. - So as I do it, or you're a bitch, I think we'll go. - You got yourself addicted to T.M. - I know. - Take it back to your friend. (all laughing) - I don't blame that. - I think we gotta hear these stories from Joey and Rogan's when they're like, Tom was bangin' me. - No, I was bangin' me, I was bangin' my head. - No, I'm bangin' him now. - I remember in Vancouver, I was with Joe, and we did the Vogue Theater, and at one point in a month, it's the highest hell, and I hate it. And I'm like, every time I hear something, I'm like, turn my head, and I get off, and I was like, that was awful. I was like, that was awful. He's like, what are you talking about? The people were like, he goes, those were applause breaks. You were fuckin' killin', and I was like, I didn't like that. (all laughing) He was rainer, man. (all laughing) He went to Columbus, and I fuckin' bomb, bad, bad. - Like, worse bomb. - One of the five worse bombs. - How long? - It was one he would bring, it would bring like, R.E. Diaz, a bunch of us. So it probably not that long. It felt like six years. It felt like the longest set of my life, but it was also, that's the club that Strupe owned. - Columbus, what he owned. - Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. So for people that don't know, this guy owns a piece of a bunch of these clubs, but he was also the person that would book you into all of them. He booked like 20 of them. So like, you're gonna showcase for Strupe. I eat fuckin' shit in front of him. Like, so bad. And later on, I was like, 'cause when you're high, I was like, how bad was it? He was like, it was really, really bad. And he was like, I was like, what the fuck is this guy doing? (all laughing) He just wanted worse sets of scenes like that. I was like, oh, thank you for the honor. (all laughing) Yeah, he didn't like say it at all. He was like, who's terrible, man? I really wondered what was wrong with you. - Did you power through or are you on stage like trying to save it, like referencing it? - Here's the worst part, is that I'm trying to save it, trying to get going, and I get off. And I remember I had seen, I think Ari bomb, right before me. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And I was like, how was that? He was like, it was great. And I was like, that didn't look great. - You don't mean like you're, like now when you're bombing, you're like, I guess I'm doing great. - I guess it was. - Ari said this was good. (all laughing) It was time to feel good. I mean, I didn't think what he did was good, so I was like, this is a disaster. But I'm at that thing with Joey, and then I'm like, bro, I can't even keep it together. We have to catch a flight. And I have a guy with me who has to carry, he carries me. Like my arm over his shoulder, and he's like, walk me to the plane like this, and I'm like, bro, Joey's on the flight with us. And he's like, you know what you need right now? Like, I don't want to fucking anything from you, dude. He's like, you need a little Xanax, like it evens out. (all laughing) - Don't fuck me. - I take it, I take it. (all laughing) - I know, I'm done. - You have to stop saying it. - Do you have no Billy's say no, dude? - Well, I want you to do it easy. (all laughing) - Just try it, you're fine. - Just try it. - Look at that. - Just try it. - You can talk, you can walk me into some shit, for sure. But I'm also in such a pain, I'm comatose, but my paranoia and my anxiety is at like a 12. - Ooh. - So I think Xanax, I'm like, all right. Like maybe this will dissipate how fucking anxious I am. - It does nothing. - Yeah. - It does absolutely nothing. - Yeah. - I sort of fall asleep and I wake up, I don't know where, and I start talking about love on this plane. Okay, I'm like, that's what we're all here to do. Like, can we use anything next, dude, this guy that works with me, Sean, and he's like, he's like him, buddy. - Yeah. - And I'm like, right? - And he's trying to tie. I go, shut the-- You understand? - It's like Bill Murray and Scrooge, where he's like, you gotta feel it. - Yeah. - He's like, you know what's there? I'm like, giving the speech about love. And every time I look at Joey, he just goes, ha, ha, he just starts laughing. Which makes it worse. 'Cause I think I'm kind of getting somewhere. - And he thinks it's your acting. - He's holding the same thing. - Yeah, and he's loving that he did this to me. - Yeah. - I get home, and like, Christina's like, as I walk in the door, she goes, are you high? And I'm like, fuck, yeah. So what happened? I tell her what happened. I go to bed, I wake up, I'm high. Like, I'm fully high. The rest of that day, I'm high. I go to bed, high. - Yep. - And then the next day, I feel like it's weaning off as I wake up on the second, now almost. third day. So I finally, I call him and I'm calling him to also be like, hey man, like that wasn't cool, right? Like you feel like I gotta say something to you. Like that was not fucking cool. So I call him, I go, dude, how much did I take for real? He's like, you took a 200. That was a 200 milligram. So he took a thousand. And he did a show. Holy shit. And was he just have a slow metabolism or something like it? It's funny because years ago, he gave me like a 20, like a 25. This is where we were also traveling to do a show together. And I was like, that was horrific. Like that was horrific. And I asked him, I was like, so do you, like do you not feel that that doesn't affect you the same? He goes, we talked about it. I almost had three panic attacks on that flight. And I go, so you also feel that? He goes, I like going there, like seeing the devil, you know? So he's not like I thought he's chasing anxiety. He wants it. Yeah. He feels that. Yeah. And I go, bro, a life of crime will get you that. Yeah. To him, it's like invigorating. So it's not that he doesn't feel it. He feels it. He like misses the cake. That's kind of interesting. Imagine I miss Keyha's. Yeah. Exactly right. Yeah. And at the end, I go, hey man, that I go, she gave me 200. I go, oh, that was one of the worst 48 hours I've had. Yeah. And he goes, yeah. I go, so like kind of like, what do you have to say? He goes, you needed it. I go, what? He goes, you needed a reset. And I gave you one. And I go, why did I need a reset? I was doing great. Yeah. He was like, no, it's good for you. Now you start over. I go, this is just like criminal talk. You need to learn less. Yeah. You need it less. And I go, what do you fucking tell him? He says nothing to do with anything. And seeing high for like multiple days, though, like I remember in college, and I'm gonna date myself huge here because back in the day, to have an edible, you had to bake it. Yeah. Yeah. Like you couldn't just buy it. It's like you had to like make butter out of wheat. Yeah. And then you would put it. Okay. Yeah. So make brownies, right? And I didn't even know that. Like I thought you just cooked the weed with the brownies and it consumed it. It's like, there was this whole thing where you're like, Regan, oh, you sprinkled some. I know clue what it was. And I didn't even smoke weed really that much. I'm a room college. And then we made the weed butter. And we really like squeezed the juice and then we put it in and we mixed the brownies. And I don't know if like the tray was lopsided or something like that. But I remember having like a piece and barely any. And I was high for three days. Yeah. And the first one I got so high that I was about three seconds behind myself. So like something would happen. I'd be aware that it happened, but then it would register a few seconds and I was like watching a FIFA. I was watching buddies play FIFA. And like they would score a goal. And I would see them get up. And then I would see the goal. And then I would realize what happened. And I'm in my friend's room and I go, oh, fuck, I got to throw up. And then I go, that was three seconds ago. And I ran to the bathroom and I just projectile vomit ramen noodles into the bat. Like just made it. And the entire floor of the bathroom is just ramen noodles. Couldn't you fucking ramen for like a year? It was just baked into my conscious. I think my worst drug experience had been weed. What about the Molly? Well, that was after. But that was after. During was the best. It was the after part. During the rest rest. No, during was fine. Was after because of like the come down like the from the Molly. Yeah. Yeah. I got like a week where I was I feel like I was in a dream. Yeah. Yeah. I would just like walk around and be like, oh, I'm not here right now. We went to awesome. We did shows with the mothership. And I'm on stage watching myself do comedy. I think that's that serotonin. Yeah. Yeah. Personalization. Derealization is what they call a DPDR. And I was just like tweaking out more so analytical. No, it was so adorable. Like he was feeling all these good feelings. I always did. And maybe it's because he's a Catholic too. He's like, why do I feel good? This is not loud. And he's having these feelings and he's like in real time going, I'm aware that this is just the chemicals in my brain that are making me feel this. And we're just in there. Like just feeling just. I would journal every like minute. So like, okay, I take a bigger dose of like 12 to 5. I'm like, I would jot it down. All the time. Yeah. Yeah. Journalism. I still have the notes. And I would like like log how I felt. And I would go up to him and be like, Hey, I know I'm on drugs, but I do love you. Yeah. That's the best part. But we don't know. I would smoke weed and then start thinking about like planets. And I was start being like, Oh, we're just monkeys. Yeah. And then we're walking around. We're all monkeys. And I had to go home to my wife and be like, Hey, can you take care of me? And then she's like brushing my hair and like plucking stuff out of my hair. And I'm like, Oh, we are. I mean, other than overdosing, the worst stuff I've had was the worst experience I've had have been with weed. Yeah, weed is the worst. The worst. It's the what when it's bad. Like I remember once I had another one of those like multiple day highs. I was visiting a friend who was going to USC. And I got so high off edibles like the floor was lava. Yeah. And I spent like a day in a dorm room. Yeah. Just like on a couch. Could you do it? Cause I didn't want to touch the ground. And I was like, I know this is stupid. But why risk it? But why risk it? We can't play those games. It's dangerous. Fucking you feel so embarrassed if you're like a molten off. Exactly. It's not working. It's so humiliating. Old school edibles too. Like you're talking about. I'm sorry. When I think this guy, the guy that I went to visit his roommate had downloaded all the porn from the internet. And I'm not being hyperbolic. All of it. He's got Neil. I won't say his last name. She fucking loved the porn. Yeah. And he had files in five. This was at a point. I'm like, it wasn't that much porn. Like the internet was new. Like and he had hard drives and hard drives. And I was trying to look up something like computer. Right? I was trying. And I got on his mouse. And I clicked the mouse. And it was like not it was a PC. So I clicked the mouse. Remember I had those two things. Yeah. And I clicked it with my pointer finger and all the sudden like that little box opened up. Right. Yeah. And I was like, yo, Neil, I think your mouse is fucked up. The right click keeps popping. This guy switched the mouse. So he could jerk off with his right hand. That he made the mouse lefty. That's amazing. The dedication is unbelievable. Yeah, it's amazing. Yeah. To plan for a stroke. That's what it was something like overtakes you. Like a demon. You know, remember like old school CD cases. Of course. Yeah. I knew a guy who had one of those of just porn DVDs and he would travel with them. That's like, he's like, I'm going to Phoenix this weekend and he would have the and he would have it in the airport. Like walk through with a full like CD case of like a hundred DVD. You're like, you need this for the weekend. That's how he has committed us. All right, guys, we're going to do day throw quick. But first, we got a shout out the boy on Cousin did it, man. Radio sitting sold the fuck out. Not a single C killed that shit. Really awesome set and like address the things that he's been going through in like a fucking hilarious way and like, I hadn't seen his set in a while and like introspective. And well, it was very, very, very awesome to see. So make sure you guys go continue to check out our couch, but he sold that shit out. The entire internet came for him and he sold it out. Yeah. And none of his critics could be able to handle that type of onslaught and then push through and sell our radio city. Absolutely not. No fucking way out of chance. So he just shut them all up. And as he should and shout out him. And that was fucking amazing to see it was beautiful. Shout out. You love you dog. Great fucking job. So let's talk. I'll sing in the building. We got some shows coming up this week on Tampa sold out. Thank you guys so much. Tampa Denver is sold out. Thank you Denver. We got the Greek theater. I think there might be a couple seats at the Greek left for the Netflix is a joke festival with jelly roll. And we just announced some more comics. I think they just announced on the lineups to go check that out. That's May 8th May 15th. It's Salt Lake sold out. And then we added Virginia Beach June 5th and 6th have been added the funny bone comedy club Virginia Beach. So get that and then Halifax Nova Scotia. We're going to be up there. Me, Mark, Cam Patterson, Luke Zell Nick. And we're going to be out there in Halifax, run it it up. Amazing. You know, shall RIP to go. Pat Stey man. We need to do like a Pat Stey Tribute. We're out there. What happened the past day? He passed away. I didn't know this. Oh my God. Yeah. The Rose Legend man. The rap Rose legends. Yeah. Anyway, Halifax Nova Scotia. Okay. Mark, let him know. I'm going to be the comedy connection in Providence, Rhode Island on April 23rd. And then at the end of the year, I'm doing a bunch of dates. Plano, Texas, Chandler, Arizona, Pasadena, California, San Diego and Detroit. I would love to see you guys all there. Thank you so much. And guys, I'm throwing tennis events this summer. Three dates, May 16th, July 25th and August 29th. Just head over to all Love Racket Club on Instagram. The link in the bio. These tennis events are going to be dope, music, food, giveaways, all that stuff. See you there. And for with those edibles, dude, I worked in a post house in LA. Yeah. Remember, this is like the early 2000s. And again, it's like, you know, there's not weed stores or anything. And there's a guy there in post who is like, you want, you want like an edible cookie? And I was like, yeah, I love that. It gives me, it's one of those giant chocolate chip cookies. And I go, how much did I eat? And he goes, eat the whole thing. I was like, all right, I remember I told someone else and they're like, eat half. We'll see how it goes. So I'm just home alone, like on a Friday night or Saturday night. And I eat half. I'm just like watching TV. I don't know, half an hour later, I was like, I feel nothing. I'll just finish this cookie. Dude, within an hour, tears, tears, crying. And I'm like, I'm a bad brother. And it stays like that for like six hours. Is there anything you would enjoy? It seems like every experience, it just brings out like the worst part. I think the weed ones were too much weed is just always a disaster. Like when I OD'd, I OD'd on GHB and a bunch of stuff, right? What do you mean, you OD'd? I OD'd, I was like in a coma when I was like 19. When I took a bunch of GHB and drank and mixed it up. And I got GHB is the date, yeah. Yeah, so you took it voluntarily? Oh, we all did. Then, yeah. Who's we all see? That girl's got, I mean, this is Florida in like the late 90s, early 2000s. That was like very popular. You put it in a bottle cap. So like the way you took it. This is how you do GHB. Got it for real. Yeah. It was just like this. You go like this. This was a dose. So you'd go that much. Yeah. It takes like ocean water. It takes like salt water. Okay. It's almost immediate. Like immediately your whole body. You'd be like, and we'd call like Permagrin because you'd be like, just chill it. Okay. Yeah. So I'd be like, fuck you bitch. And you'd be like, that's right. You know, nothing bothered you. Everything felt good. Okay. So I was doing that regularly. And that was everyone in my high school click was. And I went to college. And I brought some to college. And then I ran out. Uh-oh. So I came back. And I saw the dude. I was like, yo, let me get some more of that Georgia homeboy. Man, let me get some extra. Georgia homeboy. Yeah. And so that's how we would get it in these water bottles. Like it would look yellow. And um, he hadn't dispensed it yet into the water bottles. He had it in a gallon jug. Okay. So he's like, here you go. And literally I'm like, well, how do you take the right? If you're used to the literal water bottle cap. So I have like a full gallon jug, which is, you know, I wait to it, right? And you're like, okay. So you put it up. Ooh, yeah, it's over. And what happened was, I just went like this. And I realized, I have like 10 doses in my mouth. And now I don't want to be rude. Yeah. And I don't know, like, it's like a wine taste. Yeah, you're like, you're like, do I spit this out? Yeah. You're like a split second decision. You do. You do. You do. But at the time, I just went. Yeah. And I just put the thing down. Thanks, dude. I love how your framing misses. I didn't want to be rude. I mean, yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I will over dust in front of it. But the real thing, the reason I ended up in a coma was because the, like, the big rule with it always was don't drink on it. That's right. And I had drank already a bunch. So it's in the system. I was already cooked. Yeah. And then I just was out woke up and I see you fucking, you know, tubes and all this. A chance you would have died. Oh, I was going to die. They're without in moment. The only reason I didn't die was my sister was at that same place. She called 911. Get out of here. I would have definitely died. Yeah. Definitely died. How long was the coma? Not that long. 8, 10 hours or something before I would fuck to. Damn, but, but the thing was that she was like, yeah, everybody there was like, just let him chill. She's like, he's just like, he's just chilling. Yeah. She's like, that is the way you kind of deal with it. You hope that it just like, yeah, you're like grinning, you're like, oh, he's feeling it. Yeah. She called, she called, how history of parents. So you gave her a bakery? Is that how you started to think her now? I can tell you this. When you wake up, you don't know what's going on. No idea. All I do is I wake up. I'm in a hospital. So I wake up and I'm looking at lights. And also they have my arms strapped down because they don't want you to pull tubes out. Yes. Because that's the nature of reactions. I have a breathing tube, I also have a tube sending a liquid charcoal into my stomach. Yeah. To have everything in coagulate. And so I'm looking at these lights and I'm like, and then I see a doctor that I know come into frame. Like literally like, and I know her and I'm like, I'm like, that's Dr. Kessa. And she's like, you're, she goes, you're in the hospital. She goes, you overdosed, but, you know, here's where you are. This is what's happening. And I, I can't talk. So I'm just like, okay. And in my head, I'm like, I hope my parents don't know, like that's all I, that's my thought. And then they come into frame. Oh, shit. I'm not like, ah. And they hand me a piece of paper because you can only like scribble. And I'm like, I'm 19. But I still write, I go, are you mad? Right? And then they show that my dad looks and he goes, nobody. Just disappointed. And I was like, man, I couldn't pick another thing that I was like, we're happier alive. Yeah. I can give you a beat at least a little. Just wait. And yeah, that was fucking. What does the mom say? She's just traumatized. Yeah. She's not really saying much. Hey, you haven't stopped traumatizing her. No. That's kind of the biggest joy, I think I do. You really enjoy it. And life. Do you ever see the helicopter thing I took wrong? Yeah. I think I did. That's one of the hardest of ever laugh because I couldn't believe she would go up with me. You can find this clip. It's fucking amazing because I started taking flying lessons. Okay. And I went up with this guy. Helicopter flying helicopter flying helicopter helicopter. I just always liked them. Why? It's just, I don't know. I like four after Kobe. After? Wow. Yeah. Wow, boy, bro. But I remembered that one of the things you learn is just like with, you know, I never want to get now. I love it. I love helicopter. It is the most convenient way to get from Manhattan to JFK. Yeah. You're there in five minutes. Yeah. Okay. It is. And like now when you get like a car service and something in traffic, yeah, it's like unbelievably expensive. It's not that much crazier to take the helicopter. When I come here, you do it. I take the helicopter to Newark. I take it to Long Island. I take it everywhere. I love the helicopter. It's amazing. It's five minutes. What I'm terrified about is every single time and I had just, once I had kids, I just stopped doing it is that I don't like release with a plane. Maybe this makes no sense, but I'm like, all right, if the propellers go out, the wings are there. Yeah. Land on the Hudson. Land on that. That's it. What do we do with the helicopter, if the spinny things auto rotation and you just fucking just go down. So you believe. Yeah. You believe knowing everything you know about things falling that at the height the helicopter is, that it would just slowly, what we do it, we do it when we're training. We shut the engine off and actually just, but at what height, I mean, we start for probably the first time you do that. It's a several hundred feet, you know, you shut it off higher than when you're going from Newark to the city, or JFK to the city. From JFK to the city, you probably find these most of probably 1200 feet and then you think you're, we're 1200 feet up, no, sometimes I got, I've, I've done it, you know, you're not flying it 5000 feet. I thought we're like 500 feet or 300, sometimes you're at 500 feet, so you're toast at 500. No, no, you're not toast, man, you're, you're toast if you fly into the side of a fucking building. I think we could avoid. Yeah. I'm never worried about it. Because you can see there, we take the waterways, birds, birds can fuck you pretty bad, you know. Birds are a real problem. And there's this thing too. Where are you? Yeah, it's funny. That's the funny place. This is reframing everything that we've ever told. There's this funny thing too. When you're flying, they go, just so you know, we're always about two seconds from dying in this thing. They say that too. Yeah, because in, when you take a, when you fly a plane, like a flown planes for lessons two, you're basically, once you take off and you're cruising, like, you could read a fucking book. Yeah. Right? In a helicopter, you have, there's a zero time off. In other words, like, you are, you're just engaged the entire time. Because you have to be, you have to have your, the, the cyclic, your, your, you have to have control of all times because you, you can't, if you'd let go, the aircraft would go down. You can just be like, you're saying you have to hold it up manually. Yeah. You have to, you have to hold that and you have to keep your elevation the whole time and you're, you're looking at the horizon the whole time. So there's no, like, just autopilot. There's none of that. Oh, shit. Yeah. You're always, but here's the thing. There's like an upside and a downside of that. You're, you're fully engaged. You're hyper aware. You're not really thinking of anything else. You're just looking and you're making inputs call the time constantly. [BLANK_AUDIO] never a point where you're not giving some type of direction to their stuff. That's not more reassuring at all. Yeah. I trust me less. I like to read a book. Yeah. I mean, sometimes I do too, though sometimes I do too, but like also I'm not going up there alone. I'm up there with like an instructor, you know? Have you guys ever gotten into some? Well, I'll tell you this. So. Well, it's different. It's different. There's different times. We've learned a lot about top. There's different capacities, just like with a car, a Honda Civic and a GT3 RS are different. So with helicopters, there's a big difference. One of the ones that I learned about was this MD500, which has fully articulating blades and it's like Coast Guard uses it. So this means that blades on top can actually rotate this way so you're not changing direction with the back thing. Well, you're totally- Totally. The thing still operates the way- I don't know if that's an MD, is it? This is the one that looks like the TMEU to JFK. The blade. Well, the thing- Yeah, Mb500 is- Yeah, it is. So it has maneuverability options that you wouldn't get like in a Robinson 44, right? So the guy that takes me up in this is like a super-experience pilot and he's like, you want to see some shit? I was like, yeah. So he's doing some crazy shit in the aircraft, like sideways fucking up down and I go, I want to try to get my mom in this and do this to her, you know, because she's scared of bear travel anyway. Yeah. So it's a good reason. I go, I go tell her I've been taking lessons, I want to take you up and do like a city tour and she's like, I'm expecting her to be like, not a fucking chance and she goes, I'd love to see that. And I go, really? Which city? In Austin. Yeah. Maybe the most boring city tour. You're in fucking Hawaii. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're going to see the top of these three story buildings. She's like, I will do it. And then I tell him, so like we take off, I do some flying and then I just give him a signal and I go like, let it rain. It's like just fucking go nuts and I had these and she, I mean, I've never heard her. I just give us a little buildup, Joey, make sure that we're at like, she's calm at least in the beginning. Okay. Is this right? Okay. Here we go. I mean, you can't see externally what he's doing, but we're like sideways at the ground. She's so scared. And I can hear her laughing. I can hear her laughing, dude. Well, this is your mom, dude. He flies vertically. He sends us into nose dives. Are you going to hear her on the interview? Yeah. I don't got it. She's making me cry when it's one of the hardest I've ever left, dude. You're going to hell. I know. Like this is your mom. He was. I want to see her coming out. Do we ever come out? Yo, yeah. I don't see that human being is capable of doing stuff like that. He's as bad as a guy. Yes. Listen to me. He tried to kill me. He didn't work out for me. I thought you would enjoy it. I was showing you the cool, some of the cool stuff. Don't worry. I cry. I pray. I got petrified. And now you're like, scream. And now you get to go. It's my birthday. I'm shaky. I have completely nauseated by the way. Isn't that cool, though? No, it's on me. You're cool, you're cool, you're cool, you're cool, you're cool, you're cool, you're cool - I'm getting both. - That wasn't even the best. - How come you allowed him to do that? - He's a pilot. - How much did he pay you to say that? (laughing) - Oh my God. - She won at one point. This was after my dad died, and in her chaos, I heard her screaming, "Think about your father." (laughing) - Was there any moment you were like, "Oh, maybe we should chill." - No. (laughing) - Definitely not. No. - Do you have no fear of a death? Are you not like a big, what happens in the future, guy? - No, I think so. I definitely have a, you know. - I don't walk around, like, scared of death all the time. - Right, right. - But, no, I think about mortality for sure, but this is also just so much fun. - Yeah. - Like sometimes the fun outweighs. - That supersedes it sometimes. Even when you had kids, was there not this part of you? It's like, "All right, I gotta turn down some stuff." - Yeah, some of it. - Some of it. I used to go to the track more, like in Austin we have Coda, circled to the Americas. - Yeah, yeah. - I have been since we've had kids, but there's a couple of times where-- - At first I thought it was running. - Oh my God. (laughing) - There's a couple of times where when you're doing laps, and especially when you start to build up-- - That track is sick, by the way. - Six of the tracks amazing. - That like incline before that-- - Yeah, of course. - And they turn-- - Oh my God. - It's crazy. - And there's this back straight that I had been in-- - What are you driving on it? - I've taken out a couple GT3s. - Yeah, this is a Porsche. - Porsche, yeah. - Yeah, and then, but then my neighbor, I had a neighbor there with a, so those are the ones I was driving with manual. - Okay. - My neighbor was out there with a Ferrari F8, and he was like, "You want to take mine?" And I was like, "Yeah, it's automatic." And the-- - But it doesn't have the-- - It does, if you want. - If you want. - But even with these paddles, which you're using, you can never mimic how fast this is compared to this. - Right. - And bro, when I was on that back straight, I was like, "Oh, that's one of those times where I was like, "Oh, I could die." - You really felt it. - Because it was significant speed compared to what I had been driving like that. I think in the manuals, you hit like maybe 145, 150 on the back, and on his like 177. I was like, "You feel that more of like, "the margin for error feels like much, much smaller there." - I did, not even closer to that speed, but I was on that track with Yuki Sonota, the F1 driver, small Asian guy. - Yeah, yeah. - And he took me out in a, I think it was like a Ford, I forget what the fuck it was. - That's somewhere. - Ford GT. - The GT? - Yeah, I think it was the GT. - That was bad, that's fine. - And it's a badass car, they soup it up. Obviously, it's not some like, you know, formula, you know, three or whatever. The thing that I noticed the most was the car wanting to just turn over on the turns. So like you actually feel the tires, like, prepping and you know. And I was like, can you give me an example of what this is compared to what you're feeling in the formula cars? - Yeah. - And he was like, this is the equivalent of like, taking a golf cart on the truck. - Wow. - Yeah. - I mean, crazy. - This is the F1 track, the Coda track? - Yeah. - Yeah. - I remember I did the Spanish Latino, right? - Uh-huh. - You don't have to do white people shit. (laughing) - We got a lot of shit. - We got a lot of shit. - You're right, I know. - That's your mom, you can't do that to your mom. (laughing) - Were you like, this is a kid, you're like dirt bikes and shit? - No, no. - Just CHB did. - Yeah, just CHB. - I was like cars, I was like fast cars. - Yeah. - Yeah. - I never had any, but I still like them. - Right. - But you're thrill seeking in some way. - You know, I never did bungee jumping. I never did the parachuting stuff, you know. For me it was always like something with an engine. - Yeah. - That's always what was like, I like boats, like going fast. - Going fast. - Yeah, I like going fast. - Yeah. - But she, I went to that Dallas Motor Speedway that I got in a NASCAR there. And I was like, how fun could that be? - The loop. - Amazing. - Amazing. - Is it because of the, - Yes. - So breathe that down. What is that even called? - Bank. - The bank, the gradient. - Right. - Yeah, dude. - Can you even stand on that at its highest point? I don't, I think you, I don't know if you could. - Yeah, it's tough to run up. - Like it's, yeah. - It's difficult to get up there. - So what happens? - So you're the guy who causes that. You can get up there, but it's tough. - But like, is it at 45 degrees towards the top? Is it at? - It might be. - I'm not sure. - But what was fascinating to me was they were like, all right, you, you have to keep this speed. - Because it's not the car. - Yeah. - And then they, wow. - You know, and like, you realize. - You realize. - There was a guy in a radio, like telling me like, where to go, what speed to keep when to push. Then, and then to maintain. He was just like, now just holding. - Are you alone in the car? - Yeah. - And what do you have to hold on that? - Huh? - 33 degrees. - 33 degrees. And what do you have to hold on that? Speed wise. - Well, so they, they had this thing where they were like, we don't want to be liable for your death. - Right. - So they start you off. And then when you, you complete a lap at a slower rate, you come in and they would manually change the limiter. There's a governor on the car. - Yeah. - And then they, so every time I would do a couple laps, I would have to pit and they would like, ramp it up a little more. And then I was like, let it go all the way. And they're like, not a fucking chance. (laughing) But it was super, I think the highest, we hit on that was like in the one 50s or 60s. - There's a clip of this guy, I'm sure you've seen it, where it's like he's talking to his, what is the captain or who's the guy who's basically a crew chief or pitchy? - Yeah, you're pitchy if he's like, I'm just gonna push my foot down and either see a checkered flag or see God. - Oh yeah. - Have you seen this? - Yeah. - You see that one? And he just pushed, we should bring it up. He pushes his foot down on the gas and then he rides the wall. So he doesn't even try to maneuver. (laughing) - We're gonna lighten him a queen. - Literally, it's something outside of cars. From cars and he just basically scrapes the whole side of his car and uses the bank or the wall as his own protection so he's gonna fly out. And then I think he wins the race. - Yeah, they made it illegal after that, I'm pretty sure. - Probably a good idea. - I can't believe the wall ride. - See the checkered flag or see God's pretty well. - Ross Chesting. - What is that? - His name's Ross Chesting. - You got it up, Joe. - You guys are fucking crazy. - You need audio on this one. Just to see this guy. - You guys are nuts, bro. - I just got put my foot on the floor and I'm not listening to Lacey God or checkered flag. - My man. - You look at this. - Oh, look at this. - They always play scythe over there. - The door is the wall wide open all the way around. - Oh, he's-- - No one's ever gone through 3-4 and marks Joe that fast. - If you went from 10 to a good place, I'd never see anything like that. - Wow. - Oh, wow. - Holy shit. - That's pretty nuts. - The next day. - The next day? - Yeah. - But why would they ban it? That's kind of sick. - It is. - The banteries, bro. You can't do that. - Have you been to an Ascar race? - Not an Ascar. - I'd like to go to an Ascar. - Because there was a much different experience. - It's awesome. - I had the same thing where I was like, I'm just not interested. - Yeah. - I went there, first I went to the Daytona 500, first of all, just the atmosphere of life. The first time I went to UFC, I wasn't that interested in you. I was like, yeah, I'll go. - And you go to an actual fight. - And you go to a fight and you're like, holy shit. The energy. So the energy Daytona in particular is just, it is electric, I mean, really takes over. Then you're in there, we were able to walk around with the different teams and you see like the caliber of people, the conversations they're having, the studying, and you're like, holy shit, there's so much strategy going into this and so much commitment for the whole way through about this. And then the skill itself, when you hear the engine start and they take off, you're like, it's like this visceral reaction. - Yeah. - Yeah, the sound and you're just being there, you changed the way that I looked at the atmosphere. - I mean, the flyover. - The flyovers. - The flyovers. - You need that at everything. - The flyovers, unbelievable. They had the, what's it called? Not the Blue Angels, but the Air Force one, the Thunder, I don't know, but holy shit, I thought we were getting bombed. I was like, oh my god. - The Thunderbirds, yeah. - Just them flying over it. - Yeah, the whole atmosphere, you walk out of there being like, that was all fucking unbelievable. - Yeah, there's something about the races, which is like, I didn't grow up with car culture at all. I grew up in New York City, and nobody had a fucking car. And I went to a Formula One, and the sound of the cars made me feel like this childhood nostalgia, and I had never had cars. But it was something about just this loud motor. - Mm-hmm. - You just feel like a kid. And they zoom by, and every time I just find myself going, zoom, yeah. Have you been to have fun with this? - Yeah, yeah. They're fun, too. - Did Miami, we did, and then Austin, and I don't know if we were there for, no, we weren't there for the, in Abu Dhabi, but there is a hotel on the property. - I think we drove, I drove on that track, too. - That was fun. - The Formula Four, yeah, yeah, yeah. - The Formula Four, yeah, yeah. That was sick. - So fun, so fun. - I, there's something about NASCAR that makes you feel all-American. Like, I haven't been to an Apple race that I imagine it's like a little, a little higher class. - Oh, you know what I mean? - You definitely, but there's things to say. - There's something about NASCAR, where it's like, you see like pristine, like engineers working on shit, you see like former D1 athletes, you know, in the crew, then also just like a dude with a shirt off gets sunburned, and you're like, this is great, it's very America. - Yes. - It's worth going. - At that track in Abu Dhabi, I thought that the markers on the side before the turns were the speed you were supposed to go, not the distance to the turn. - Yeah. - I was like trying to, I have to go 220, like, I don't even understand, yeah, the point of this really. - But that was sick. - Yeah, it's so cool. They were so such gracious hosts too, like they were so, like, yeah, yeah. - The best. - The best. - All right guys, just a break for a second. 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So do yourself a favor, go to BrooklynBedding.com. Use the promo code Flagrant and check out and get 30% off site. Why that's BrooklynBedding.com promo code Flagrant for 30% off. Get your sleep right. Everything else gets easier. Also before we go back in, we've gotten some very interesting results. Some health results. Yeah. All of us on the podcast got some health results. Yeah. I don't know why we did this. There's the full on a body scan of all of our markers. All of our markers. We're going to find our biological age and we know what our biological ages are and before we tell each other what they are. I just want to know like how confident you guys are and who is the youngest. Well, this is where it's true here because I have the youngest biological age for sure. I'm sure about that 100%. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if I have the biggest delta. No, no, no. Forget that. Okay. No. There's no way you have a younger biological age like that. Do you have the fact you haven't pulled your phone up makes me think that you're lying. I was going to remember two numbers. No. I need to see it. I know what mine is. I need to see it. I have my age. You have your age? I got my age. Okay. So we got this whole body scan and they looked at all these different markers, etc. Yeah. Shout out to function health that did it for us. And you know, it's really just bestowed bragging rights on us. It's not even about living forever or like understanding like how your body's becoming decrepit. There's just another bragging tool that we have on the pod. Why don't we start with Alex, black though crack? Yep. Let's see. Definitely don't crack. Let's see if black doesn't crack. I'm going to blow you out the water. Just let's see. Let's see. Well, should we start with his actual age? Yeah. What is your actual age? I don't know that. You're 38 years old. I'm a head. You're a 38 year old man. My biological age. Yeah. It might be extra terrestrial because it's 23.4. Oh, shit. Balshala. Balshala. No. That is health. I don't know if function health is that is. Yeah. I don't know how accurate. Yeah. If you feel good, if you feel really really good is mother fucking healthy, right? 15 years off of your age. What was out? Super. Super. Super. Super. Super. You was mad because I beat now. No, but I want to put my phone on. What is yours again? What is yours again? It's 23.4. This is crazy. You beat Mark. Yeah. You beat Mark. I didn't say I would be you. I said somebody else would beat you. Did you know? Or younger than Mark is biologically. Yeah. No. No. No. You can see him. Yeah. Exactly. You have done the kids. It's not even. Yeah. I'm shocked. Yours is as low as it is. I saw it. Yeah. I'm coming in at 23.8. Haha. Alright. But you have to try. That's three months, right? He has a child and a wife. That's barely younger than his actual age. - No, but when did you take yours? - What's your delta? - He did his three months with my age. - Yeah, what is yours? - I think I'm older. (laughing) I think I might be a few years older. Who's got mine? I'm 35? I'm 35. - Yes, you're healthier than Mark. 'Cause you have a bigger delta on yours than Mark the-- - I don't know, I don't know. - I don't know, I don't know. - You gotta tell me, you gotta tell me. - You gotta tell me, I don't know, don't know. - But you said you should have told about Delta, he said he won't even watch us talk about Delta's. - I know, he said he won't. - You brought out Delta, you brought it out. - Now you're in third place. Guess who's sleep. - No. - Yep. - I'm 23 over 29. - I hope you enjoyed it. - Divide his. - Now you know, I'm over 45. - Now you know what Seeky is. (laughing) - Now you know all these religions in the world. - Yeah, I don't know all this shit. - Oh, breathe and shit, you do the. (laughing) - Tough, y'all. - Shit, ain't shit, I don't do that. - I don't do that. - I don't do that. I don't even know what to say, I don't even know what to say. - I don't even know what to say. I don't even know what to say. And as this thing comes up to the top, you see that there's a turn to the left. So I'm cruising. I'm like, all right. Well, now it's time to slow down for this turn. So all I know is ease off here and pull this break. So I start to do that. And I turn slide out and fall off. I'm just having the best time, I'm like, what have you been doing? doing really so far in life. Well, for like 15 years, I was a professional race because I was like 21. Yeah. Oh, and you have this great disposition. Yeah, he's he's great. Days and that. But it is a crazy, like think about that. There are 20 spots. How many jobs are like that? No, I know. That's like just 20 when you think about like pro sports, where it's like the elite of the elite. Still 100, there's 400 and some NBA players, you know, NFL 53 man roster. You're still super elite, but this is like 20. Yeah, that's it. And it's kind of hard to conceptualize because you're like, well, what makes you good at just driving? I know. And they're so young, like when they get in, when they get now, I feel like they're much younger than they used to be. I feel like back in the day, the guys would have like longer careers. Some of them last long. Yeah. Yeah. But for the most part, these are like, yeah, they're like kids. And they go from they go from driving a go card. Yeah. To driving the fastest cars on the planet. It's wild. Yeah. It is weird that there isn't this like intermediary. I know. It's go card. Then it's like four minutes, four minutes, four minutes, four minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But why is go cart the best comparison? I think it's the only thing that could be accessible to somebody who goes, I want to race like, what could you possibly get into? That's right. Because all the other cars is just fucking millions of dollars. It's so much money. And even like you hear these stories of like Lewis Hamilton. And I'm sure a bunch of other guys where they're like, I wanted to race even that go carting was expensive for us. And the people had to sell things and work second jobs just to let their kid go cart. Yeah. Yeah. But we got to like talk to one of these guys and ask them like, what the actual competitive advantages? Because they're not engineers, right? It's not like yes, they understand the cars and like some of them know how to like fix them, etc. But like what do they know that we don't know? Well, the one thing that I learned because I thought, you know, you see about these like how the budgets are crazy for like Mercedes, Ferrari, McLaren, and how these other ones have like a fraction of the budget. And you also get some money from the, but here's the thing, that money goes into like even though you think you see like 20 F1 cars, these ain't the same cars. Oh, that is they're not driving the same shit. Yeah, this is like capitalism in its most pure form. Yeah. And here's another thing. Even the cars on the team. Yeah, we're not the same. Not the same. And that's the thing that they try to pretend isn't the truth. Yeah. But like Max's car might have 20 engineers working on it. Yeah. And the second car at Red Bull might have three. And you could be a driver who's top tier and you get into one of those and you go this car, like they know they're like, this car is bullshit. You know, like the way it handles the whatever. Like everything about it, they go, this feels like I'm driving a truck. Yeah. And you realize like, Oh, I thought it was the same. Like it's not the same. It's not the same team. Why the car just as good. So they say they do. And it's the same engine and the same parts. But like the amount of people working on it to tweak it. Basically, what a team like Red Bull has to decide is, Hey, we got to keep Max happy. And if the car is not that good, we have to deploy way more people to working on that car to get the most out of it. And we can only really do that with one guy. Oh, no, I'd be pissed. If you're a second guy, there'd be 40 more scientists. But that's the ship where that's the ship where basically like, you got to be a politician in that game. Because you could be have a stank attitude about it. And then people don't work with you. Or you could be lobbying the team constantly to get them to support. Yeah. Like there's all this behind the scenes, drama, this kind of interesting that again, there's 20 spots. So if you're a fucking pain in the ass and you're not winning every race, they're going to go, I can get another guy to lose. You forget to how sensitive those guys are to the mechanics of like on a lap what they sense. So that's that's the competitive advantage, right? I feel like it is because the same way that like you and I, anyone who works a microphone, we can feel a crowd. Yeah, but you also know like, yeah, this is tinny or just feedback is here. Those guys are like this understeer. It doesn't feel right. Something that like I feel like most people would just be like, this is just how this car moves. Yeah, they're so dialed in on things that they know like, I can't win in this car. Yeah, you got a good neck. And I think your car would have told me I was like, how much do you guys think about weight? Like how much do you weigh? Oh, and it's because like every, you know, everything counts. And he's like the heavy and F1 is I think 160 pounds. Wow, you want to be under that. You can't get dwarfed doing that. But you can't get like, they have mid-eration. Yeah, you're right. The best of cars technically. That's the secret to it. We need a car. Right? Like, I don't know why not. A top tier little man driver would that not be a benefit? I mean, there's people who like try to cut their legs off to compete in like Paralympics. You ever heard of Jesus Christ? Yes. There's like dudes that are like cut them. So like they'll have like a small body people. Well, get the fuck out of that maybe. That's another one I've heard of is like people that have like a spinal cord injury. They'll have disabled legs. So their legs don't work. So you might as well hack them on. Some eyes will chop them off so you can roll around faster. And the guys that roll around with no legs go a little faster than the guys with the legs. So the dude will be like, can I get my legs back? He's like, no, you're never getting your legs back. He goes, all right, chop them off. Cause I'm getting a gold. All right, I'm competing for America. I'm making the team. But they're like think about like whether it takes four hours. Absolutely. Yeah. Without a doubt. Like the level I'm trying to do without a doubt. Yeah. Jordan never cut off his legs. You know, nobody's running a lot story. You know, the finger. Yeah. What is that? What is that? Ronnie lot got his like finger cut in like a face mask. And it was a kind of thing where anybody would be like, what are we going to do? And they're like, well, you're out of this game and we'll, whatever, we'll go to the hospital and do whatever. He was just like, just take it off. Yeah. Like cut off. Yeah. Who's right back in the game? And they did. Yeah. Yeah. Who's the trainer? Who's the team? This is, we limit a new era where like the teams have to pretend they care about the athletes. Yeah. Yeah. Like they put you in that little tent. They're like, we have to see if you got a concussion. It's really just a guy and they're like, so you're gay? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's 100%. But are you a fucking bitch? Yeah. You don't remember your fucking birthday? Yeah. It's this many fingers. It is a little, uh, it is a weird time for sports where they have to pretend a little bit more. They have to pretend and football more than like that whole thing is like a big pretend thing. Like with football, like we know what's happening. Yeah. They don't give a fuck about you. They literally treat them like cattle. Yeah. Like that's the way they use people get like, they're like, they just take away your key card to work to walk and that's how they cut people. Oh, yeah. Oh, to get it. Yeah. They're just like, you should done working. Yeah. Yeah. Like they don't give a fuck about that. Because you almost played called ball, right? No, I played high school football and I almost played, I almost played like small D3, D2 ball. Mm-hmm. But I was like, I'm definitely done. And I also, they told me. Not for a win. Was that exciting enough? Well, the thing was when I, the one I was going to go to, they, the admissions office called me in June or like end of May. And they were like, I was like planning on going. And they're like, your math scores are so bad. From high school, you got to take a math class this summer in order to come to school here. And I just was like, I'm not doing that. And it was just like, okay, goodbye. It was like that. Like that was it. And then in August, like two days before camp, the line coach called me. He's like, we're excited to have you son. Just going to be like, you know, the whole speech. And I was like, oh, I'm not coming to school there. And he was like, what? Like, well, yeah, you guys said I had to take a math course. I didn't do that shit. And he was like, what the fuck? And he's like, no one told me that. I go, I mean, I didn't have your number. Like, you guys told me that. And it was just like, all right. And he was like, bye. And he said, hung on. I was like, yeah, I'm just not doing that. So it was just a just a disinterest in having to do math and also being like, I'm not. I was once I got in college and I saw how hard that guy worked that were on the team. And like, what I was doing, I was like, there's no fucking way I would do this. Also for like D2, D3 football. Yeah. D2, D3 basketball, even if you're riding the bench, it's fun. Your whole body isn't destroyed for the rest of your life. D3, you were playing the line. Yeah. Yeah. Like your your brain is going to be different. Oh, yeah. From practice. For the love of the game. We want a championship. D3. Yeah. No, no, no. You're totally right. And I saw that like, these guys, they're offseason conditioning. They were getting up at like five. And like, you know, it was just like so much work. And it really, like the truth is, if you really, really love it that much, I could see like, like, I did it. I played D2, D3. And I was, I loved it. Yeah. I knew that I didn't love it like that. Yeah. You know, like I loved it when it was like, fun. And I got to play all the time. Yeah. Like, you know, it wasn't, it wasn't that type of commitment. Yeah. And when I saw, but like how I was living in college, I was like, there's no way. Where'd you go to school? I went to a tiny school in North Carolina called LaNoir Rhyne, like a small, small school. What does it? LaNoir Rhyne. LaNoir Rhyne. Yeah. Yeah. It's the only school I got into. I didn't think I was going to get it anywhere. Yeah. And the high school guys this counselor, like, I went into the office. I went to a small prep school. And he was a football. No, no, just like we moved. I was in Milwaukee at a big public high school. And we moved to Florida. went to the small pool. private school. I was a terrible student and I went in to see that counselor and he was like, you know, you don't have a lot of options. And I was like, really? He was like, no. He's like, your grades are terrible, man. I was like, okay. And then he left the room and there was a piece of paper on the desk that had my classes, GPA of everybody in descending order. So you could see like all the way down and I'm looking at it and I'm like, probably in the middle, right? And then like, flip the thing. And I'm second to last. I love a guy named Rocky. I was like, fuck. And what was Rocky like? Dumber than shit. Dumber than shit, literally. Rocky was a box of hammers. He could barely fucking spit a sentence out. And I was like, holy shit, I'm almost as dumb as Rocky. And then he was like, where do you want to go to school? And I was like, for some reason, I got locked in about, I loved Denver. I visited once and I was like, I want to go to you, Denver University. He was like, good fucking luck, man. I was like, okay. So I sent them an application they denied me. And then I was like, shit. And I go, I don't know where to go. Like, he's like, I mean, he's like, and I don't know why he pulled this school up. He was like, this is a school in North Carolina. It's in the foothills of the Appalachia. It's like a small picture rest kind of college town. And I was like, all right, I went on a visit. And I was like, I don't want to go to school here. Like, I don't want to go to school here. And they were basically like, well, like tell us where you want to go. I remembered that even though I had the fantasy of the big college experience, I didn't want to stay in Florida. Like, I probably could have gotten into like some big university. But I was like, I don't really want to be in the state anymore. And so I applied and they let me in. They let me in. And I just went super small, really small college. But as soon as I left, I was like, all right, I'm, I need to go to like a bigger. So I went to, to Boston. I did a real estate for the summer. And I went to DC. And I worked for America's most wanted. And then I went to what? I was a researcher. I would research stories for them to do profiles on. Isn't it? Don't we know who's most worried? Well, but they have to, they have to, there's so many fugitives, but they need it to be a good story because it's television. So you had to discern if this most wanted person was also wanted by the American public. Basically, it's like, who is this person? What's the story behind it? And would this be a compelling story to, to produce a menu? But also like, is the person like worthy of a profile on, on, on America's moment? People get caught from that show all the time. Hundreds. Oh, so it's good to see a show. Oh, the show was in, there was show. At one point, they, Fox was like, we're canceling the show. And the backlash was so severe that they like put it back on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you discover any cases that got solved later? I did, the funny thing is I had a, so I intern there. I got an internship when I was in college. So one summer I intern there. And that's how they offered me a job after I graduated. And at one point, I was only there. My first day was September 10, 2001. Okay. So what happened soon after? Tuesday was not wild. There was no one. We just started profiling the terrorists. That's a fun pitch on the 12th. I got an idea. Yeah. Yeah. Just hang out. We're going to tour a board. It was, it was real crazy. But I did pitch. I had, like, they would, you know, they would give you like these research documents. I was like, how about this guy? And it was this guy who had been convicted of some horrible crimes in Costa Rica, American guy. And then he like, bribes his way out. And they were like, this guy is a, this guy is a nightmare. So I pitched the story in like the, been the pit there. And, you know, they take it into consideration. And then I had an offer to re up my contract. And I said, no, I want to, I'm moving to LA. I want to pursue entertainment. So I moved to LA, but like a month later, they're like, hey, we're going to do that piece that you pitched. Do you want to go on location for it as like an associate producer on it? And I was like, yeah, for sure. So I was able to go to Costa Rica and do the, do the piece with them. But it was, it was a really chaotic kind of world to dive into these stories. You know, like you see the eight minute version of it when you're like reading the stuff every day. I mean, it's not really dudes. And they caught the guy. That guy, I don't remember actually if they caught that guy. We caught a number of people, even the short time I was there. But, you know, is there anybody you caught that you were like, this guy's not that bad? Like, you read the stuff. And you're like, I just rob a bank's like, who cares? There would be things where you were just like, this is not that exciting. Yeah. You're looking for like exciting. And then I mean, the show is credited with, with Whitey Bolger, you know, they, it wasn't Whitey kind of an inside. Well, there's that whole story. But I'm saying him getting caught. Yeah. Was credited to the, to somebody watching the show because they featured him all the time, all the time. Yeah. But like everybody knew Whitey and Boston. Yeah. It's not like all that F.E.I. director. Yeah. He's like, he's only one of our guys. Whitey was like working on a flower. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They all look, they look similar. Yeah. And I don't think what I'm outside of Boston. They got him. Yeah. Yeah. They got him in Santa Monica. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Was it a little sketchy doing these pieces though? Because these guys have invested interest in not being caught, you know, and then you are like a young kid doing like these investigative pieces. Like was there ever an internal conversation? Like, hey, don't let people know you're working on this. Like, not really. I mean, the thing is law enforcement would treat you like you were celebrities anytime, you know, I got pulled over in DC. And they saw like my hat. And they were like, you've been drinking. I was like, um, they're like, is that America's most one? I was like, yeah, I worked there like, oh, that's tight, man. I'm gonna get that hat. I was like, yeah, here you go, man. That's crazy. They love, they love the show. Yeah. Well, he did uncover also a serial killer. Oh, that's right. Part of partially his time during work on this. Just gives you way more credence when you think about it. It is a journalist. You are a journalist. Especially an investigative journalist with people who do violent crime. Yeah. Kill people. Yeah. And one of the things that one of your side quests in life as you have many side quests is there is a serial killer on the loose that happens to be tracking Garth Brooks. Yeah. I mean, allegedly, allegedly. We got to put that out because apparently he's quite litigious. This guy, I think things can, guys got deep pockets. So you got to remember. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What's crazy is that like talking about GB, um, he, he, uh, we talked about just how weird his social media is. That's how this all started. Like you saw his Facebook. Yeah. He's like, Ross, remember that with him and his wife. No, no, the, when he joins Facebook, cool. Can you get that up when he joins this is, this is how this all started was just commentary on this guy's, hey, I just decided to join Facebook. It was weird. Have you seen it? You know, one of the weirdest things that I've ever seen. He's like, so just joined Facebook. And what he says in it, you're like, this like an alien fucking talking, are you familiar with Garth Brooks contextually? Just that he's just interesting. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know what he looks like right now. I can't. I know he's big. Yes. I mean, he didn't put his music on Spotify. He's like, you got to buy the album still. I don't know. Amazon. So he was like, he's like, you can't get, you, you Apple music. And they're like, you can't find Garth here. He's like, my shed's on Amazon and that wall. And Facebook. Yeah. And he was either one who didn't want to put his name on when we. No, no, definitely. So this, just so you know, is like the, this is what the first thing I ever commented on. And this was what he put out. I just thought it was weird to get what? Well, I guess it's official. We're now on Facebook. I really wasn't sure about this at the start. But then a friend of mine said something that just made all kinds of sense. She said, think about more as a conversation. I like that. But I'm already finding out on my own. So it's wiping the walls out between you and me. And I really like that. It allows us into each other's worlds where I guess in my case hotel room. When I think about things I want to post, I want to post cool stuff, slick stuff, neat stuff. Oh my God. I'm going to post going to be raw stuff like this. This is just who I am. Yeah. So this is truly a conversation. And I say let the conversation begin. All right. That was it. This is how we fake all white people are. Yeah. This is how you think you guys talk at home. It's so weird stuff. Cool stuff. But it's like, like the voice stuff is like, I like that. Like it drops into a different. Yeah. It's like, it's just like, it's awkward. Yeah. All I did was like, say how awkward it was. Somebody's going to fucking first person at that time ever seeing a video. Like it's so strange. You know, we just talked about it. Then he did another like press conference for something. I was like, I was weird. I should too. Like I was like, it's kind of, there's a thing where somebody gets to a level of fame. Like you might not realize how famous he is. Oh, he's number one. He's the high stage. and also selling country artists and unbelievably talented. So talented. Like the shows are incredible. The shows are amazing. And when he, and literally he'll put a stadium on, like a legit, like where the fucking giants play and it sells like you're selling out a club, like they're like, I was sold out. So I was out like that. Okay. So so, so famous. And I think when you're so, so famous for so long, socially you become kind of awkward. You've seen it all in Madonna, Michael Jackson, but yeah, you just get it. Tom Cruise dancing on the couch. It's weird. Yes. So I just kind of was like, this guy's fucking weird, man. You know? And jokingly said that like there's missing people, and I don't know, they kind of line up with places he's been. But was that a joke or has that actually happened? I mean, I completely just said it as like an alleged silly thing, right? Okay. And the funny thing is you know from being in the space that that, like as people start to give that legs, the easiest way out of it is if you're the person and you want, like because they started to like take over his social media is just to like lean into it or say acknowledge, just say something, be like, yeah, chopped up some butter, like I'm not a killer. Whatever. Pick some angle. Yeah. But like the full ignore makes people get louder and louder. Yeah. So they just said louder and louder. They took over. He would do a post. Like 5800 comments all about I want my grandmother back like crazy people were just like, I want to see my family. They just went crazy and this lasted a while. He shut out. No more comments. No face. You can't comment on his Instagram, on his Facebook, not just shut it down. And then I was like, well, and I wasn't like hitting this up every day, which is something he's kind of throughout there. And it took off eventually a met somebody who whose family member worked closely with him. And they were like, I was like, does he know and they're like, Oh, he, yeah, he fucking knows dude. He knows you. He knows what you said. I'm like, if you mad because when God doesn't hate his God, the families of God doesn't hate anybody. And I was like, okay, and then they said that he, he said what, that Garth saw my basketball injury video and said karma right there. Then like earlier this year, I just got the watching video, somebody that was team sending it to him. You're going to love this. I got this book at the studio and I'm like, this isn't real and I flipped through it. And then they're like, I see clips of this guy. A guy wrote a book about is Garth Brooks a serial killer? No. He did a full bodies in low places, which is a play on a friend. Oh, that's his song. Yeah. Yeah, but this guy does a full examination to brave journalists there to expose the music industry's darkest secret. Yeah, it's so strange. I'll make a girl a birdcracker. Two detectives. That's awesome. It's just so it's so silly that that something that that literally started as a commentary on that video. Yeah. I showed you. Is that, do you know this guy, Matthew Cox, he's like, I think, yeah, this guy right here, I don't know. He's a, he's a big podcaster. He goes on a bunch of podcasts. Yeah. Okay. And I forgot exactly what he did before. He had some type of like criminal past and then like God of prison, like talks about life and crimes. Yeah. Yeah. It's a good lane. He's one of those. He's actually really entertaining on pods. I never met him before, but he's a. That's shocking. He turned into this shit, dude. Yeah. Bro, you can't have him. You can't have him on the pod. You can just give him more, more fodder. I mean, I don't know. But. Yeah. It could be fun. Yeah. It could be fun. I've always, we tried, I tried to get Garthon because at one point, they reached out and they said, Garth's going to do some interviews. Would you like him to be on the podcast? I go, fuck it. Of course. Of course. So they were like, write something that like that we could show to this to one of his people. And that's where the book came from. Yeah. I just write this whole thing about like how I would love to have him on. I'm like, you know, just very much interested in having him on and, you know, interested in his career and all this and that. And then the person that I'm talking to says, oh, I had a conversation with their guy. And this is like, how lazy like agents and shit are. The agent told me instead of like confirming he goes, didn't he say something crazy about Garth? Yeah. I was like, ask you that. I feel like that could go wrong for him. Like, I feel like that guy has said something, like you just fucking Google it. But eventually they're like, yeah, he's not coming on. He's not happening. No. I think we need to make that happen. Yeah. That would be awesome. How do we get Garth? You have Garthon here and then you just have me walk out. Oh. Hey partner. America's most wanted to have the cowboy hat. I can get John Walsh here to be we've been looking for you. Yeah. You are weirdly tuned into internet culture. I remember when I was doing your pod, like, is there any, any credence to that? Yeah. So like if somebody right to hold on, there got to be something I haven't read the book. But it's also it's like, Hey man, weren't you on tour in Lafayette? You know, there's a missing person there. You're like, I mean, yeah. If you tour the country, people are missing around the country. Yeah. I don't think so. Allegedly. Also, it's very. It's very reasonable to assume that if you have a stadium full of people, there's a serial killer in there. Sure. Somebody's going to die after the show, man. Can I crazy? Yeah. I'm going to follow you around the country. 85,000 people. Hey, shut up. Yes. Definitely kill somebody. Yeah. No, but what I was saying is when I was in your pod, like, I remember watching this guy. Oh, my, I'm going to fucking, I'm forget his name, but like, I'd always seen you like connected to like, Internet-y stuff, like, for guys our age is kind of odd to know, like, deep internet shit. Yeah. Even when I come into the office and like, the young folks in the office, like, I'll say certain things. They'll kind of laugh at me. Like, how the fuck do you know about that? Yeah. And I'm scrolling while I take a shit. And then I see something. But it was, it was, it was this tailor in Singapore, Hong Kong. Or Hong Kong? Yeah. I thought it was Singapore. He harassed the guys that he was making suits for. He messaged me yesterday. Yeah. Okay. After I did your pod, and we talked about it, he hit me up. Yeah. And he's like, dude, we got to do a suit or something like that. And I was like, I don't know about this. Well, it's, the guy's hilarious. He's hilarious. Yeah. And I think you know more like his father was a very famous tailor or something like that. The place is called Sam's Taylor. And in Hong Kong, Hong Kong has this really interesting history of, well, for many things, but there's, there was obviously a lot of Indian immigrants that came. Yeah. And one of the trades they brought with them was a suit making, like actually, you know, the clothing. And so there's parts in Hong Kong that it's just like Taylor after Taylor. And there are a lot of them are Indian, right? Like Indian immigrants who ended up there. And his father's place where he is now, Sam's Taylor, is like, like, they've dressed, I think the last six US presidents have gotten sued there. Yeah. Yeah. The walls are adorned like a lot of this place with like just famous soccer players, actors. I mean, like a lot of people have gone to this place. It's like super legit. I saw his videos and I was just like, they're hilarious. Like same kind of thing. Like you've got to get up the video playing them. So this is a given example of scrolls, scrolls, scrolls, scrolls, scrolls. We'll find a good one. That's how you get into a Luminati, right? Get him with like a male, a male and then like in his, in his office, yeah, in like the fitting room. Yeah. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Keep going. Has he stopped doing this kind of content as much? No. Okay. Keep going. Just have him standing next to like this. Yeah. Or is it Sam? Sam's Taylor. It is surprising that there's not more of him. Like that is to roll up. That guy on the left there. That's what he does. Go. Young American boy. How old are you? 41. That young. Yeah. Are you sure? Yeah. This young American boy is actually Polish. His parents are born in Poland. They immigrate to the United States and this bastard sold out fucking Levantoski. And you were to be part of fucking Trump's ice regime. Oh. Shit. Fucking. Fucking sold out to Trump. You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't understand who does this in this world. You don't Trump is bombing Iran. He's throwing fucks on everybody. Boston. You have Levantoski. You know, you know who is Levantoski. Who is Levantoski? Who is U.S. U.S. U.S. U.S. He has the World Cup bastard. Doesn't know who is Levantoski. You pay for the shit outside its insanity. I would hate this. Yeah. It smells like a young disgusting fucking bombing pig. He. He. He. No accent. Maybe accent. Go. Get on the side. Get on the side. Get on the side. Get on the side. U.S. U.S. Poland. Yeah, it's just like what the fuck yeah fully lying your face is burning Overlapping buttons on a fully functional even pockie pick it Pocky pig is absolutely gift rapid by four different Maybe pockie, but he's got his own fucking Chinese game here Okay, let's see. Let's open him up Joy How would you how would you do it that do you think This guy's so strong the glutes this is not yeah pause. Yeah. Yeah, well how would you react to this type of tailor? I mean it wouldn't get that far You pay for this? Well, no, well, sort of give me a thousand dollars. I'll insult you smacked shit He doesn't do it the same to every it's not the same treatment to everybody so some of them He just sexually harasses you got to get the Malaysian fun with a little Asian he goes He was really aggressive with he's not he's always has aggressive energy. Yeah, it's not like always face smacks and like insults sometimes he's just like Like overly effusive with like like compliments, but he's just like really Custom work, you know, I mean for every war you're getting a custom tree. Yeah, that was um that was pretty That was a lot. That was a lot. That was insane Right here. Let's see it. You see what you've got brother out. I'll start Single button a glorious world button a deep prestige on a peak lapel check out What is he got? He's got my richie plateman the imagined dragons Packed pockets one two three last time. He said I was a coffee get non-sense. I think this is son Okay, so it's not gonna happen change some energy a little bit. Yeah, different energy for a son I see like finding these like weird characters on the internet. Yeah, I mean that's been like my Fascination for you know started our podcast in 2010 wow wow, so like it It really did become from like you see a weird or funny or crazy thing and being like yes I want to I want to talk about that. Do I want to play that? I want to dissect that and sometimes I want to find that because that became What it became was like first we would just laugh talk about it have people like you where you go Let's let's comment on this. Yeah, and then this whole thing became like oh, we can we find this person Yeah, they came big enough where yeah, you could be like they want to come on Yeah, yeah, and that became a fun thing. It's like we've Found numerous people that lots of you see a video and you're like, I don't know this isn't like this person has A business and everything but sometimes it's like just some random dude in the video. I was like eight views And you start talking about it and then also one of your fans is like You know that that guy's in Highland Park. I know that guy You're like what and then you kind of try to connect and Sometimes you zoom sometimes we had people come in, but it's always Been like an exciting thing to break down like these people are. Yeah. Yeah. I mean you kind of discovered Andrew Tate that way Yeah, infamously. Yeah, you really put Tate on dude. That's so funny. People have been saying that to me since But he was for us. Hold on. 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No, fuck Didn't this happen to you or getting soft till you would never tolerate shit like this back in a day He got a nice fit. So that's why he gets attached today. He actually put it together really nice I'm not giving him shit. He's one of the nighttime version of my fit. That's all it is see why you had to mess it up What you're biting my whole neck see fuck this thing I tried that's right. So what happened with your name? What happened? You know, nicks are taking it, nicks and five, that's it, and I don't want to hear anything about it. What's the odds we got right now in Cal State for nicks and five? 66% and going down, damn, there's a million dollars in volume put on this right now. Nicks and five, I'm the honest with you. That's easy. If I'm being completely honest with you, I'm going, I'm probably going nicks and six. Come on. I want to have collusional conference, but it's eroded, you know, after years of torment. Okay. So I'm going to be safe and go nicks and six. What do we had nicks and six? This is just the whole thing. Is that your tummy that just did that sound? Yo. Yo. Yo. What? That was insane. I thought your cell phone was buzzing. Did you pick that up? I got to call my name in the room. I thought you had a subway that was coming through. I never heard of nobody's stomach. What was it? That was the first time I ever heard anyone's stomach besides my wife with the children. I'm being dead serious. I always thought hearing your stomach is only you could do it. No. Anyone can do it. Nah. That's how you know Mark's fasting again. Are you back to fasting? I had three A's this morning. Yeah. I don't know what's going on. How did you have them done? Scramble. I always go scramble with a little butter mix and cottage cheese over to that. Besides the point. Seven fucking yo chill, not on next to six. What do we have? It's a saying. It's this is 65%. This is just that they win. Oh, it's just they win. Yeah, series. Oh, well, shit. Well, Nick's definitely winning. That's not going down while we were talking about it. Yeah. Yeah. Cuz you. You got the old school in here. Something happened, bro. I've never heard of something like that. I wish. No bullshit. I would do that. I'm worried about what's going to come out. Oh, you'll see. I'm going to come out of your mouth. That sound doesn't stay. Yeah. I don't know what that was. It's got to be some sort of like a cancer must be. My biological age just went up a little bit from that. Every rumble that goes on. That was a loudest stomach. I've ever heard. Can we see what the magic odds are? Let's see. I bet you the magic got it. I bet you the magic hero win the whole series. Man. Here we go. Magic in versus Detroit. Let's go. Okay. Well. It's a minor step back from major comeback. Orlando's leading one, nothing. Damn. I'm saying, bro, you think one and they still know what was it before the game? You're up to that. That's great. What the hell? $650,000 worth of volume little broke ass cities. Tell them to put their money up there, tell them to put their fucking money up. You put money up there. Yeah. Broke ass city. How much are you all putting on the next? Yeah. I put it up. How much? I put it up. Did you guys just hear my tummy? Oh, should we continue it, right? I don't think that my stomach sound goes out every month. I'm not a tummy. Did you hear my tummy? I got two kids. Yeah. You got a tummy, little child. I just farted and that, I literally heard it here and then it came out the one all the way through. Guys, I don't think you can hear my stomach sound. I heard a little. Have you guys, anybody ever heard your stomach? No. Really? No. Yeah. It's the next and sixth out. And I'll say here's next and sixth. Okay. Shout out you and your stomach. Thank you. We know what's in there. Your stomach's got so many. It looks like the chair from Game of Thrones, but made out of dicks and your stomach. Game of Thrones? There you go. Yeah. That's what it looks like. I don't know. It got so many relics of dicks in there. We all shoot. I don't know. Yeah. You don't know. All right. Let's get back to the show. I'm all about like cheering and like booing and that call sucks, but like when you start like yelling crazy shit to somebody, personal stuff, you're like, what are you doing, man? My favorite thing to do is just is butter up the refs. You talk to the ref? Oh, all day. That's a great call. They got numbers and I, but I'm like, you know, fantastic call. Yeah. And I butter them up. Look at this American bully. That's it. Beautiful stride. Yeah. So they give you a look. Of course. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I saw that. That, um, because nobody is more entertaining than Garnette in this post playing world. Like the storytelling, everything is just fucking unbelievable. Yeah. But he was doing, he was, there was a montage about he was saying, what the hell is that? I was like, I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to say that. was like something about paying and he was like, yeah, I always, I bring out my car 'cause it never gets denied. And then people were like, you mean overdraft protection? (laughing) We would just kind of roast him and play this very silly thing that I was like, yeah, this guy's saying this thing that has like his an angle to it, but this feels like stick, deliberate. Yeah, there's a performative aspect to it. So somehow some way, I don't remember like the thing, it was like he was coming to the States and he was like agreed to come on. I was like, that guy, dude, that's amazing. So we came on and he was an A level guest. Yeah, yeah, I remember the, I remember even Christina being kind of charmed by it. Dude, and we were like, I remember at one point, he was, 'cause he was saying all this stuff. He was like, this one was the one thing that he said that people were like, wouldn't you get bored of a woman that just does everything you say? Like he asked, he was a rhetorical question. He was like, no, I'm like a bitch. Of course I'm not gonna give it. I had a coffee, but I spent my coffee every state, yeah. And she was laughing hysterically. And we left there first of all. He was like, pulp, such a gentleman. Yeah, you're like, oh, like you're a smart guy. And this is your thing. Like you're also looking at through comedian lenses where we've seen archetypes like this pass through a thousand percent. Okay, this is another internet personality and there's a little stick there. And you actually go, like, I've seen this archetype, and this is a very refined version of this, because he actually would dance between exaggeration and like pure, like well-formed logic. Yeah, very philosophical, very articulate. We're like, this guy's a great guest. Of several months later, where it's like his name and everything starts, like getting bigger and then people are saying all these things about-- You make him a star. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's my birthday. And I'm doing this show in Chicago. And it's on my birthday. And I did not know that they had put together a montage of people saying happy-- So I finished my show, they wheeled out of cake, and they had the screen. And it's just like the comedians. It's just like, you know, burden, Sebastian and Joe. Like everyone would be like, happy birthday, happy birthday. It just cuts to fucking him. And he's saying happy birthday. And it's the day after he's accused of like trafficking. Yeah. Right? And I'm, again, drinking. I think I'm drinking like a beer, and I'm like, and I'm like, guys, he's fucking, he's wanted, you know? And then everybody after then was like, yes, you put him on, you platformed him, and I was like, can we add him on as like a entertaining guest? Yeah. And he was super nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was very funny on that. Sometimes he goes wrong with you. The entertaining guest on the pod. Yeah. I mean, we would have nothing about that at all, but-- No, you never had somebody come on that something happened later. Because he reached out to us. He's like, have you talked to him at all? He emailed, we emailed a couple times. He was like doing-- he was like, I'm coming to do another American tour or whatever. I was well after, but that just, I don't think he ever came or anything. But it was a perfectly polite experience. Yeah, it was totally normal. Yeah, it was, it was crazy. Was there anybody that you saw that you were like, this guy's so entertaining, but I don't know. Something's weird, and then-- All the time. Like who? Well, I mean, just like a lot of time-- G-B, huh? G-B. Yeah, G-B. Well, there's just times where you go, because you learn this thing of, like, I'll play a video of somebody, and then you go, like, I'm sure I have this person in studio, you know? Like, even the ones that you go, just like, is this person a stable, you know? That's-- like, we had this one guy who was-- he always-- he had-- he was just like, you know, sucking on your friends' nipples isn't gay. It's what the Spartans used to do, and we're like, what? And he had like, oh, he's just crazy. He's like, you should cup your friends' balls. Like, that's actually the straightest thing you can do. Like, all these types of things were like, what? And so we were like, should we have him in? We had him in. He was like, can I-- could I just be nude during this interview? And I was like, no. I was like, there's women here. Like, you can't-- no. So he did it his underwear, you know? Like, one of those things. But then you kind of go, you're talking to him. You're like, this is perfectly nice guy, you know? He's a little out there. But some of them, you go like, I don't know if this is an unhinged person. So you start to develop a sense of who can fall apart in the DM. He responded with funny video, and some guy hits you up angry. Or he's like, pissed, he wants money. All the time. Really? Yeah. How do you deal with that? I mean, I've just had-- the one thing is, I don't know. We just played these clips. And it's like, someone's like, you played my clip. I made that clip. And you're like, all right, it's a weird thing. Because you're reacting to the internet. If we do it here, too, because it's just a fascinating thing on the internet. Yeah. And then, some of these people in the internet are absolutely fucking bad shit. Crazy. Crazy. Yeah. Crazy. Yeah. They're crazy. And I think most of the time you ignore, I mean, some people have gone so far as to like send documents, you know, wanting something. And I'm just like-- Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And they give the document to my lawyer, go ahead and get with him. Like, I mean, I'm not-- they make their case of like why we shouldn't play it. I'm like, we won't play it again. You're not that fucking fascinating, dude. Yeah. It's like, it was a funny clip, you know? But most of the time, people are-- usually people are excited. Right. They go, you played me, you know? Yeah. Yeah. My clip. And it probably makes their whole life, right? Like, some like small creator, all of a sudden gets you going a huge show. Like, it's-- I think they get-- yeah. Yeah. Oh, you widened my fan base, you know? Yeah. There's more eyeballs on me. Yeah, you stretched out this moment. Yeah. You know what I ask you? Yeah. Because every time I go on tour, I feel like I learned from the last tour. Yeah. And I want to compress, reduce what I do. You don't do a crazy amount of dates, right? It depends. Like, I don't do like the long stretch, so I do like a week and a warrior thing. Right. Yeah. But you don't extend that like forever. I did the last one, probably-- I don't know, we did like two years maybe? Oh, you did. Yeah. But it was Thursday to Sunday, kind of Friday Saturday. Friday Saturday. Friday Saturday. Friday Saturday. Friday Saturday. Maybe it's on that is like pretty, yeah. That's better for life. That's the thing. Like, I just had a kid and like, my wife got pregnant again, so we just had another one. And it was like, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's-- I wanted to-- I wanted to be home as much as possible, you know? But also like get out there and do it. But that's the tricky-- that's the balance. And did you road dog it a lot in the early days or no? All the time. You did. Yeah. I worked in New York every week. No, like I pretty early started getting out on the road. Oh, you did. Yeah, I was out on the road pretty early, opening for people. I never got that experience. What? I never got that opportunity, yeah. Really? Yeah. Yeah. So like I kind of just kind of went out. I got some MTV, you know, look and then did some shows there and then like I would do the weekends. I would do the club weekends. You're headlining. Headlining, yeah. Out of the gate. Not out of the gate. I mean, years in. Right. I developed an hour. Okay. Like the shitty, you know, one-nighter type of things. Once I got to be able to do the clubs where they could kind of paper the room. Yeah. Like I was on TV and I couldn't really draw, but it was enough where you could paper it. Yeah. I know what you mean. Paper the room for anybody watching is basically like the club will give out free tickets. Yeah. And like basically they wrote cell trinks and they're like, there's one you. Exactly. Yeah. But like maybe you get to a point where like there's a little of you. Exactly. There's a flow. Yeah. And I remember doing that. And I remember once I started putting out some standup, I was able to like fill the room snap. And then I did another round where I filled him and they were paying. Yeah. And then I think I did another round where they were paying. But I was still on like the shitty door deed. Not a four deal. Yeah. The shitty like guarantee guarantee you $200 bonus. You sold it out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember there was clubs that would give me more than the bonus sometimes. And I was so stoked. I was like, what? I get one of the bonus. And they felt so bad that I was getting $15 a week end or $2,000 a weekend and it was like five sold out shows. Yeah. They're like, we got to give them something. Yeah. I would muscle them for more. Tell me. I would go into that thing and I was like, I sold this shit out and they're like, I know but you're deals this. And I was like, do you mean to come back here? Wow. They're like, yeah, I'm like, do you know what to do, man? That is fucking crazy. I was always so like grateful to have the weekend. And it wasn't until like the second time around where I sold them out where I was like, let's do a door deal and that got aggressive. Yeah. Then I was like, hey, if we're bringing it all in, there's a guy who even gave me, he goes, this is what, so like, it's all, it's a process. Yeah. I was like, when it was clear that I was selling them out. Yeah. This guy was like, I'll offer you X amount, which was a good amount of money guaranteed. And I was like, I don't want the guaranteed. I want the door. Yeah. And he was like, but this guarantee is awesome. I go, yeah, it's not as much as the door. Yeah. And he was like, right. But the guarantee is fine. Yeah. And I was like, what are we missing here, which I'm telling you, I want the fucking deal of the door. I think I can get those people in. Yeah. And he's just like, this is fucking crazy. I was like, no, it's not. And then eventually you're asking, well, once like, I just understood the business so well so early. I knew exactly how things worked. But was that not how comics were doing it back in the day? Would they just take in guarantees? Well, it really depended on the power of your draw. So there was people who, I don't want to tell anyone's business, but there's comics who are pretty good draws that don't want to have to worry about the degree of it. So they'll just go, I'll take, I want the guarantee. I mean, I don't have to think about it. You fucking do the work. And once you're selling tickets, you kind of just figure out what works. If you're like, I'm like, with almost certainty, I know this is going to sell. Let's take the door. Percentage deals are just better. Yeah, they're just better. So I would just like, be like, no, I want that dude, I know it's better. I had to like push an agent of mine back in the day for it. Same. Yeah, and he was an amazing agent. Love him and like, he was actually, yeah, he was great. And but part of what made him so great was that he had these amazing relationships with the clubs. So he could get a no name comedian into a club. I know exactly what you mean. Yeah, but the problem is that like, when you get to a point where you're like, okay, like I've gone two times in the club and they've made tons of money and we drew, I think it's time that, you know, now I get whatever my fair share is here. And it took me kind of like, muscling him. It does. It does. The clubs try to be sneaky. I had a friend just recently, you know, that had a sell out bonus structure, and it was a substantial bonus. And he gets to the payout and like, they're doing the settle up and they're like, yeah, you were two tickets short. Yeah, that's interesting. And he was like, two tickets short instead of a sold out. They said, yeah, right before, you know, two people refunded their tickets, like at minutes before the show. And he was like, this is insane. And he had to call his agent up to be like, what are you guys doing? What are you doing? But stiffing him out of like a substantial amount of money for like a young comic. I had a guy who goes, he owned the club. He was a knucklehead. He was a doe. But it's sweetheart, but he was a total fucking mess. Can you give me a state? And he's like, he goes, hey, uh, we had a 100% door deal. He was 100% of the door. Yeah. He was like, great weekend. Is that the end of the week? He's like, it's great weekend. He goes, can you guess how much you made? And I go, no, I could tell you what I made. He's like, what do you mean? I go, well, there's no guessing. Yeah, I know how many seats I want. I go to the seats multiplied by the ticket sale. It's this. And he goes pretty close. And I was like, it's not close. It's exact. And he goes, really? I go, yeah, man. I just did what I just told you. And he goes, hold on a second. He's like, let me get done it. And he goes, he's saying it's this. And I think it's this, which his number was less. She was like, it's his number. And he was like, well, God damn. And I was like, yeah, man, I mean, it's not a guess. I mean, you heard the stories back in the day where like your opener would take a counter. Oh, yeah. And they would they would wall your own stage, count each person that was in the club. Because the rumor has in some clubs would say that it's sat. That was a big thing. But it sat 340. Yeah. And that was. I remember when I was out with Charlie Murphy. He had, he had his cousin with him. Click, click, click, click, click. Charlie, Charlie took me to dinner one time. I'll never forget. This was the funniest sense anyone's ever said to me. He goes, you think you think Oscar De La Hoya could whip you ass? And I was like, why? I was like, Oscar De La Hoya. Like a fuck yeah. Of course, he's a world-class boxer. And he was like, he sweat thinks he could whip Oscar De La Hoya's ass. What? I was like, why? He goes, he thinks he's too pretty. I was like, he sweat would not know it started. There'd be the fucking craziest knock out of his life. Yeah. He's like, he's, he swears he could kick Oscar. It's Oscar is a dog man. I don't care what he wore. I don't care what his shenanigans were. That motherfucker was a dog. When you see in person a pro boxer, just hit mits. Oh, it's crazy. There's a whole other thing. Alex has said this exact thing 10 times in this podcast. Yeah, Alex doesn't think white guys can beat him up. White guys? He doesn't think white guys can beat him up. Like you were a Gregor. No, not fighters. Regular white guys. Regular white guys. All of them. I could take all you guys. Probably the same dog. Damn. Probably. Maybe you look like you're in shape. But we did this. I did talk. I can barely run to what I'm right here. He's a train to run to an F-1. I'm first of all, I'm mostly with you. There's these sleeper white guys that are fucking savage. Yeah, the game is changing now with like, yeah, it's. It is a fake Paul. He said he could take Jake Paul. But he, that was a while ago. That would just, is he less away now than you get a little black. He's been actually taking the sport seriously now. They can first start it. Yeah, yeah. Come on. No way. But there's also like, just like not even trained. You're just like in some town. And fucking, you know what I mean? Like, big old Greg just walks in. You're like, this guy will put someone's head through. Oh yeah, he throw a cauliflower here. Yeah, I'm going to play around. You don't play around. But I'm with you, dude. I'm with you for most of it. Yeah, for most of it. Have you been in a couple fights? No, I mean, there was one college bar fight. But that was, I don't really, that wasn't like. Well, I have a square. It was chaos. Just fucking, everybody was swinging. It was a melee. Yeah. And the thing that, it's one of the things where I was, I just lucked out that the guy I was with, he had his foot stepped on by this one of the guy. And he was like, hey man, like you stepped on my foot, you know. So it was kind of like, all right, my bad. And the guy did it again. But the second time was definitely on purpose. Yeah, yeah. And the guy was with, it was a big dude. Like, he's six, five, probably two, six, he's big five. And he grabbed the guy. And he just was like, boom, bad. And you can say like a hot like that guy's whole face fucking. And that guy had a couple guys with him. So as they start swinging, we're in this booth. We get up. But I didn't even know that I was at this small college that like the whole offensive defense line was hanging out back here. I didn't know they were in this part of the bar. So as we grabbed this guy, they come. And this is all like, it was D2, but big five, and they come. And then it's just, you know, melee, melee. But it was like, now it's like, 15 on three. Yeah. And then those bouncers were like, just everybody let him go. Just everybody let him go, yeah, yeah, yeah. But that was like, I didn't get into like a lot of fights. Yeah. I got jumped in fifth grade. Damn, that was the stuff. What did they get? It was just like, no, it's just like at school. I was, I moved a lot. So I went to a lot of different schools. I'm just walking in the park and like going to recess or something. And these three could just come around the corner. Just like knee, punch, pop, pop, just like leave you on the ground. I was like, you know, just left for dead. And the worst part is like, it's fifth grade. Yeah. So they have to like the teachers have tell the parents. And then my parents were like, yeah, we talked to his parents. I was like, oh, fuck. And like, what now? They're like, well, we, we talked and we think you guys should hang out. What? Yeah, yeah. They're like, you know, like make a man like, I was like, I don't want to fucking hang out with the dude. Yeah. Need me in the stomach. So I just just go go to his place and just sit there. Yeah. And just sit in like his parents. I remember his parents both smoked. The place was like full smoke. He starts to understand why he was so angry. Yeah, he felt bad for him. I kind of did. Yeah. And then I was just like, all right, good hang, man. I'll see you tomorrow. But that, that was like the extent. It wasn't like a violent upbringing. Damn, yeah. Were you in that kid cool after that? Yeah, we actually were actually. It's a work. Yeah, it kind of didn't work. Yeah, he sold me some GB. Yeah, GB. Tell me about the, because I know that we probably have limited time here. Tell me about this show. This, you have a second season of the show coming out. Yeah, bad thoughts. Yes. I don't understand how you're able to do all these things and manage all these things, first of all, but like the second season, how many episodes do we have? We're at six episodes. Okay, six episodes. Seventeen sketches or stories or whatever. Oh, so they're okay. So you're going to put multiple within the episode. Yes, every episode usually has three. Got it in them. And these are like vignettes sketches. Yes. But they're shot, not like a sketch. It's not like one is its own movie. It's exactly right, yeah. So I did a pilot. I did the pilot of this. You funded it yourself. Myself several years ago. The idea was once we, I'd filmed a few of them. We were like, oh, this is like a show. And I had only used, I have a pay-per-view platform that we kind of developed during the pandemic, where you could sell tickets for like special ticketed. Yeah. We would do like live podcasts. It was just a way to like try to do a podcast that was elevated. Right, I remember. They had like, yeah, they had like a little more to it. And also no rules, no restrictions. So when we did those, we would film sketches to be part of that live experience. And we had sold a bunch of tickets to in that. So we learned like, oh, there's a, there is a market for that. And so then what happened was I was like, you know, we've never done like a just like an entertainment-based narrative thing. I wonder if we did that and put it on there if people would buy tickets. Because if they would, it would inform us to the point like, maybe you can make like a movie and put it on. That was like the concept. But when I had that pilot, I showed it to my, they're like, what have you been? and I got, you know, I made this. They're like, you have to shop this. You absolutely have to shop this. And so it was like weighing, do I try the ticket? 'Cause that's what I was planning on. Or shopping it. Well, basically, the first place we took it to was a network had a relationship there. We showed it to them first and they bought it. So that's what led to it being a series. And then the first one came out last year in May and the season two we just were delivering now. It airs in May also. But it's all new characters, all new stories. But one of the big emphasis of the show is that, like I like sketches, but one of the things I always didn't like is how they look. So I was like, I want these to feel more like short films. Yeah. And so our DP, Nico Wiesnet, is like a brilliant guy. And every single one of them has a very distinct look and looks very cinimax. Some of them look just absolutely stunning. But that's deliberate. It's like, I think it's funny to take like a premise that's ridiculous, but shoot it beautifully, you know? So it's kind of like, I think it's one of the characters of the show is having that be throughout. Yeah. Yeah, that's really interesting. I guess that is, I'm trying to think of sketch where they've done that, where it feels very elevated and real. I like the early key in peel stuff for what it was. Kind of seeing it on YouTube in like 2010, you're like, oh, this is a TV show, but it's for free on YouTube. And then I feel like if you went back, maybe like, Moni Python was probably shot on film. Right, the 100%. And then some of the SNL, what's it called? Like they're, yeah, digital shorts. The digital shorts will sometimes have like a real look to them. Yeah, I always like those. I think it helps the comedy. I think so too, because if you're not presenting something as fake immediately, you can get lost in the reality. Because sometimes it just feels so flat. Yes. 100%. Yeah. Here's one set and everything's operating right here. And it has that like a multi-cam look, whereas like, yeah, if you get people lost in a world, yeah, that formula for us, I feel like is like make it really cinematic. Also, play everything like it's, yeah, it's just a Shakespeare or whatever. Like this is really serious stuff and then make it absurd and push it. Yeah. This season that, uh, can you give us any of the premises? Oh my God. This comes out of May by the way on Netflix, but well, one of them, tease, tease of fun. One of them is that I, I'm a middle-aged dad that drops off his daughter at college. And then I decide to go to college. And I'm really intrigued by the black fraternity. That one's very fun. There's, uh, there's one where I'm a, I'm a 19 year old girl and I get back from my semester abroad with very suggestive tattoos. Okay. Of which you could say are extremely offensive, okay, I rationalize them. Okay. Where are you abroad? I was in Paris. Got it. Okay. Okay. Um, trying to think without the, oh, there's one where I met a fertility clinic. Nice. Yes. And, um, while I'm making the deposit, I get a FaceTime call from a family member. And I feel like the call pollutes the deposit. So then I fight to get it back. There's all types of fans around. Yeah. It's not exactly incest, but yeah, it can't be thinking about a family. Yeah. You can't. And the nurses try to explain to me that that's not how it works. And I'm like, I think it is. It is. Yeah. Can you share any that you had to cut? Whether any of them were so close and you're like, we just can't do it. Well, the whole process is like you start obviously and you build out in the room. In the writers room, you end up with like 50 and you realize like we're doing six episodes and you got to have at most 18. So you end up cutting so many like you and ones that you're, you're on the, the fence about constantly. Um, I'm trying to think my brain is so rattled from, from being so in post with this. Our post schedule was fucking wild. Yeah. We shot in October and delivered in May. This year we shot in February. We deliver in May. Wow. So like, all I've been is just thinking about what we're doing and there's, you know, there's the notes and the edits and the music and thankfully like that really is managed by like Jeremy Connor, Rami Hishash, Tyler Cornack. And I just weigh in, but those guys are in it. They know what they're in. They know the tone of the show. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And they're in the bay. Yeah. Editing is grueling, dude. I flew out a couple times to get in the bay and like I get, they're in LA right now. They're in LA. I get in, I get links to like watch and then comment on them. But there's no, there's no substitute for being in there because when you're in there, you literally watch it and you, you're thought, you're like, didn't we do this take? And now we literally pull it up. Yeah. Oh, here it is. The way that they organize footage now is like unbelievable. I was talking to this couple of guys on the movie that I was doing and it's like, we're doing reshoots. And I was like, how is, like, what did you guys do when it was just actual footage? Yeah. And so like Tarantino shot like once upon a time in Hollywood, I think on actual like 30, is it called 39 millimeter, 36, 35 millimeter. So I go, so what are they doing? They're taping things together and he goes, well, what they do is they have digital versions of that footage. They do all the edits on the digital versions and then they match it to the tape. Otherwise, you're cutting, like that's how they made movies back then. They had spools of tape, splice, organize them per scene and then are cutting and patching together. So how many times realistic, like the movies that we saw back in the day on tape, that wasn't the best take of ever seen. Definitely not. I might have been the only take. It might have been the only take because tape was expensive. But also you're like, am I really going to cut this in certain other thing, tape it together, watch it. No, give me back that other one. How much shit is on the cutting room floor from back in the day? Literally. So do you have it? Do you have it here by the way? How Eastwood shoots? Oh, you got one take. My boy. One take. And if you try to push back, he's like, do you want to go home or is he like a ref? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And then he doesn't say action, you know? Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, he says, whenever you're ready, go. Because when he came up in those westerns, action would scare the horses. Wow. Right? So he never, because it would startle them. So he's like, whenever you're ready, then you just do it. Cut, print. Let's go. And he's like, can I? No, you can't. No. I saw there was a guy I'm forgetting his name. Really funny character actor. I think he had like some wrestling background too. He's kind of like bigger guy. Hall housing? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He's hilarious, but he's also like an amazing actor. Amazing. And he was talking about how he did a movie with Clint where he was the lead. And basically, he was, people said he was the only guy they got to do more takes. Yeah. And I think he had told Clint, hey, I'm not used to doing this. There might be some times where like I need to find it a little bit to mind. And then Clint was like, yeah, sure. Just crazy. Matt Damon said, yeah, like you get two takes and this is it. That's it. I'm working on a South African accent, dial in for six months. Yeah. Can I get another? Nope. Nope. That's it. We're going to waste a fucking time. Yeah. I'm 90. Let's go. It is like once you've been on any set, the idea of, do you like it? Being on set? Yeah. Sitting around all day, no, but the actual acting itself. Acting is fun. What I like is building the scene. So I like if we have a scene, I'm like, you're with the director and you're with the actors. Like I want to know what the director wants from the scene and what his vision is for the funny. Yeah. Because it could be completely different than why what I'm trying to add to it. And then I want to be able to pitch some stuff and like have it kind of, like whenever we're doing run-throughs, if we get the opportunity, I'm throwing things out. Yeah. I'm kind of like feeling things out. And if it sticks, then we go that part, even if I'm not in a scene, and I'm kind of watching it and be like, what if this happened? I like that part of it. Yeah. The whole day coming in, doing one line, and like, the other actor isn't even there for your coverage. Not fun at all. No, no, no. Making something fun. Very fun. I agree. Feels kind of like joke writing. Yeah. But what if I set him up for this and it's, yeah, that to me is cool. It is cool. The whole script, like, there's no character arc here. What if we put this here and that type of stuff is exciting. I think so too. Yeah. Well, what about you? You like the acting? I love it. I love, you know, stand up such a singular solo kind of endeavor. The idea that, like, we're all trying to make this work together, especially if you have a good team that collaborative feel, the idea of, like, what would make it? And also when you go, there's this time too, or sometimes you're like, all right, this is what it is. Like, well, this is the scene. And somebody suggests something and you realize that it elevates everything. Yeah. That's very exciting. Yeah. Fun thing to be a part of. Like, finding what the funny in the scene is. And to me, in my experience, it's not, it doesn't happen on the day when you press record. It's before. It's like, oh, what are we trying to get out of these, like, what is the tension in this? What are we trying to do and where does this go? And I will be honest. honest, when we did the movie and we did Street Fighter in Australia, because it's like impossible to film anything in America, especially LA. It's just so fucking expensive. There is something, and I would hear boxers talk about it all the time, like don't put your fight camp in your home city, because you have too many people that want you to do things and you'll end up doing them. Doing a movie in a foreign country where you don't really know anybody and nobody on the crew really knows anybody, you just have a singular focus. Like are you free Saturday? Yeah. I'm not doing anything for two months, so I'm always free. And in a way, as much as I want, like I have my fam out there, but like as much as I would love to film, like if I want to film shit in New York because I just love New York and I want to do everything New York and that's important. Yes, if it's an action movie or some like wild movie that doesn't need to be in a city where the city's a character, take us away. Yeah. Because then everybody's on the same page with one goal. Yeah. Being a ways is key and leaving the country's even better. If you're in Austin, think about the amount of things that you're going to be pulled to do pods or a meeting or I know it's dinner with the family, like it's everything. Yeah. Yeah. Being a ways key. That's why white lotus was the greatest show of all time. And venting a show, you're like, yeah, we're going to go to Italy. And then they just fucking hang out. We're open to the ocean's movies. Oh, yeah. I heard that that was partially like how they got them to do like the second and third. They're like, okay, you can all live at George's House in Lake Como. Okay. Yeah. Sounds good. I saw that clip of Liam Neeson talking about how he when he got taken. He was like, I'll be honest. I thought this was like a straight DVD movie. But I saw that it shot in Paris. And I was like, I'll spend six weeks in Paris. He's like, that's just right in the movie. Yeah. Yeah. Same there's that way. Same there puts his in really cool locations. Hawaii. Always the way. It's like every time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the move though. Like that's the goal. Yeah. Definitely to pick awesome locations. That would be the book. That is the goal. Yeah. Go there with all your boys. Make something awesome. Bring the family out. Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm always just like, I think this makes a lot more sense in Italy if we would do that. Thoughts. I only have them. Yeah. And Amsterdam. Yeah. For some reason. Yeah. I should have been there. Anyway, dude. I want everybody to go check it out and make sure are you going to be doing the road anytime soon? Is that I'm not going to go on tour until 27. Good for you, man. Yeah. I spent a lot of touring, man. It's been a lot of touring. Yeah. I get it. But I also think time off is valuable, dude. I've been a lesson. Yeah. I think it helps a lot. I think it makes you live. And then you have something to talk about. And I think you're helicopters. Time for choppers. I can 1700 horsepower cars. And then like, uh, yeah, it's just, it gives you a chance to like enjoy life. Yep. Have some balance. Experience some things. Talk about it. And it is good to like pull back from the incessant road schedule. I love that. That's kind of been the way that I've gone about it. Because I find I don't have anything to talk about that's different than the last time. Yeah. If I just keep touring. Yeah. And then I'm telling you different versions of the same jokes. Exactly. And I feel guilty because I kind of want to give them. I want them to come and be like, what the fuck was that? Yeah. And that happened if you take a little time off. Yeah. I think so. Yeah. Anyway, Thompson girl, thank you so much. Thank you very much, my boy.