Tom Cruise on Digger, Experiencing Arrowhead, Importance of Film & Getting Above the Clouds | 202

Are there a part where you're like, in a scene, whether it's on the tidy, whitey scene, you complete me, show me the money, "Tropic Thunder," whatever scene it is, where you're just like, "This is gonna be something that people are gonna latch on to." Do you know it while you're doing it? Just some moments. (laughing) When I'm dancing in my tidy, whitey scene, it's just like this. They're gonna like this! I know, because I'm done in my cell. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - And you're like, "Yeah." I was like, "Do it, I'm ready." And it's like, "I'm going." - I got it. - I got it, I got it. (laughing) (upbeat music) Welcome back! The new "Highest Ladies and Gentlemen" boys and girls, a one-dry show brought to you by Nissan. We are your host, I'm Travis Kelsey. It's my big brother, Jason Kelsey. I had a Cleveland Heights Ohio shout out to the bear cats. Since a nadi bear cats getting 2 and 0, the football season, subscribe on YouTube wherever you get your podcasts and follow show on all social media @NewHeightShow with 1S for fun clips throughout the week. - Oh my God, a fun one and Jason's gonna tell you exactly how much fun we're gonna have. - Oh, now to Super Centres, you are in for a doozy. We have probably the most prolific actor, producer, most iconic human beings on planet earth. Here today, that's why we have Tom Cruise in the house. We're gonna talk about our time at Arrowhead this week's past last game on Monday night. We're gonna talk about his entire career, his new movie Digger, as well as have a special clip so you guys are gonna begin a little sneak peek in the movie Digger. - How about it, man? - And you're gonna wanna see it, it's outstanding and you're gonna wanna stay tuned in for it. This time, Cruise Exclusive Exposé. - That we're hitting you with right now. - Okay, hit it, Brandon. Our guest today is an actor, writer, producer, and Hollywood legend from Syracuse, New York. He's got a bathtub, three-gonna-gloves, three-critic choice, an Academy Award, and his films have grossed over 13 billion. - Yeah. - And the box of you. - You know him from Risky Business Top Gun, Top Gun Man with Rayman, Jr. - Oh, I don't know what I'm saying. - The Fur Magnolia Eyes, right? Joe Minority Board, collateral, Tropic Thunder, into tomorrow. The mission of possible franchise. And soon to come, his upcoming film, Digger. - Come on now. - 92% is please welcome the one and only Tom Cruise. - I'm on it, man. - Tom, dude, it's so fucking cool to have you, man. - Hey, man. - It's great to be here. - You know how hard it was to pair it down to that? - A amount of films, like, you know, a long time. - Yeah, yeah. - It's been a long time. - We've been killing it for a long time. We got to start off. How was Arrowhead? - So much fun, man. Congratulations. - Congratulations. - Congratulations. - I'm telling you. - That was the most fun I've had ever at a football game. - Me too. - Me too. - Seeing you play, I know. Number two now. - Come on, Tony. - Come on. - Oh, thank you. - My home's back. The team is just hit. - It's fantastic. - We're rolling, baby. - It was great. - I gotta say the whole crowd, the vibe you hear about it, but to be here and experience it, it's so cool that we're all together, live like this. And you guys are like, come to the game. I was like, "Yeah, I'm coming." - Come on, baby. - It was fantastic. I was gonna write you. I told you last night, I was like, "Lan, listen. I'm not coming to Kansas to see you lose." And I literally, I had it like, we were texting back and forth that I had it thinking I was like, "I'm not sending it in." He knows it already. - I'm not sending this. - We need you to keep coming. I mean, that's that, that's that. I'm just gonna keep this, keep coming. - You already know. - We need that energy, baby. - It was so fun. All your friends, all the people there, just such a beautiful vibe. And to see, look, my homes has come back as just miraculous. - I had my homes, baby. The old Texas gunslinger. - But you guys together and the whole team together, it was just, it was a wonderful experience. - I appreciate it. Well, everybody says the same about you. Everybody in the switches raves about you. And it's been like that. I mean, we were in London together. A taste show. - That was fun, man. - That was another thing. That was another thing. And vibes were high there too. But it was fun. Everybody raves about just who you are as a human man. - It's so cool. - We appreciate you jumping on here with us, man. - I appreciate being here. - We gotta get into digger, though, man. We, very fortunate we got to see the screener for it. You guys are in for a ride. This one's a fun one. One of the, one of my favorite characters of yours of all time, I can- - Bang, bang, bang. - Oh, baby. (laughing) - Try again, hit with truce. You wanna- - Hold truce, just bang, bang, bang. - Bang, bang, bang. I'm gonna get into this character, buddy. You wanna tell the audience just like what the movie is about. Just a little sneak peek. - It's absurd. - Yes. - It's about humanity. - Yeah. - Human. It is a story is old as time. - Yep. - But told in such an original and engaging way. And it's, it's just that. I don't know how's to explain it to people. It is, you know, when we look at human behavior and human existence and all the dynamics of it. And it's this director, Alejandro Nyorito, he's unbelievable what he's gonna do. It's just, it just is a massive cinematic experience. That's what it was conceived of and built, but it is very human and it's you saw it. - It is, yeah, I know, man. - It's unexpected. - It's based in, it's supposed to be modern day, though, right? Like it's supposed to be- - Yep. It's modern day, it's very modern day, but it's, it is representative of kind of, it's very human. - Yeah. - You mentioned the director, is that where this starts? Like do you start with Nyorito, do you start with the script? How do you go about deciding to do a film like this? - You know, making movies, it's really a lot of times, it's not like some of these films I'm spending years, you know, Nyorito was working on this for almost 10 years, 90 years. - Really? - Yes, and I've been engaged with him on it for now, seven years. - Holy cow. - So these films that you see, there's, sometimes I'm thinking about it for decades. I'm preparing for years for movies, like I'm, I'm looking straight out and going, how, what skills do I need to learn? How do I prepare for these things? So it's, it's, it's, it's the artist and that particular thing and what I'm looking to challenge myself with and what I, everything that I've done, I always have a purpose. Like since my whole life is like what I, I focus like I go like what I want to learn, how, what skills I'm trying to evolve and how I'm developing. So, so it's, that's, that's kind of what I want. - You're talking about the director, you got another award winner in the cinematography in Chivo, man. - Chivo. - We're watching this and I watched it with Taylor as well. So we're watching this and we're seeing kind of his, his brilliance as well on this. Was he, somebody you saw out in terms of a cinematography or? - Just his ability with understanding the visual medium, the performances, the world he brings you into, all of them. I mean, Alejandro, someone that I've always wanted to work with and Chivo is someone that I've always wanted to work with. - So cool. - Like you guys, it's like we want to be surrounded by people that are the best for that particular kind of film. And sometimes a lot of people don't know, don't know them, but you see what they did. I mean, visually what we did, we shot him this division, it's just a pinnacle in terms of skill making this film. It's, I don't know, it's like, you know, we were talking earlier, you know, about knowing the movie, you know, we were talking, but I see the way you run, you know, the way you clear, you play jazz. - Yeah. - And it's like, you understand. - You'll better tone sax. - Yeah, sax, man. - We talk about it, it's like knowing your skill. Like, I'm, people ask like, what'd you do? And I realize like, I wasn't, it's like, I just dedicated my life to learning skills and ability. And when you, it's a lot, it's just constantly learning and studying and finding what is the correct technology or the correct format, not what someone says it's correct, but what you know is correct, so that you're, when you're running routes, you're very rare that you're finding like, there's a moment where I could see it in you, you see it, you see it with musicians, you see it with, you see it with athletes where you, you know it, but you're, you're outside the game, but inside, you're connected to everyone. And it's almost like you see those openings beforehand. - Oh yeah. - So when you look at Digger, it is that high level of musicality and rhythm and comedy and jazz. And it's fascinating, like in fields like that, how it relates. - You guys mentioned the cinematographer, director, and the film overall, man, it's fantastic. And- - From the message to an all, yeah, it's so cool. - It's very visceral, which is, you know, a lot of times you feel that with like action movies or there's something that's incredibly thrilling, but this thing, even the opening scene, like 30 minutes, you're in that like one room, and you're just completely captivated. And there's, there's highs and lows. The acting is incredible. Obviously you are fantastic. You nail Rockwell, John Goodman, all of it, but the way it's shot, the way the camera moves, the way you move, like all of these things feel so purposeful while you're watching it. And it just, it draws you in so well. I mean, I'm in the middle of the movie theater. Four people in the middle of the movie. - I'm laughing my ass up. - I'm like going between like laughing, like goosebumps, and just enthralled your monologue. - Dude. - Brother. - Happy. - That thing is gonna be, and I, we talked about this yesterday. I'm sitting there, you're like maybe four or five minutes, and I'm like, I don't think I've seen a cut yet. - Dude, I didn't, that's what I was gonna, I was gonna ask, that was that just one, one rip, but it's, - One take. - He cuts into it, but it's one take. - It was, you know, it's interesting. - You were in the zone, brother. - Man, everything in the movie is purposeful. But it's not like, it was all written down of doing it, you're reaching for it. - Yeah. reaching for tone. You're reaching for that. You're exploring and you're creating. And then when you find that tone, it's a razor's edge of maintaining that and staying on it. And that monologue, when I read that in the script, I was like, oh. - So you knew it right away. The moment we read it. - All right, this is, please. - Please. - For monologue, baby. - Oh, my God, please. - It's so, it's so, you know. We released this thing saying it took, it took every bit of skill and learning new skills to be able to play this character. And that's what you love. - So cool. - You know, I'm like, I see a cycle. - You get that challenge, man. - You know what it's like. - You've done it all the time. - So, there's, everyone's like, here it is. We're there, but there's always another mountain to climb. There's always something to learn. There's always something to go. And I'm getting there with the actors. And there were times on set that everyone's, you know, you know what it's like, like you're working with security in the middle of game speed, you know. It's like, everyone's going, "We gotta get it!" And I'm like, just, everyone, timeout. Just take a second. Let's look around this set. Look at this lighting. Look at this director. Look at these artists. I like taking a moment and going, let's look at how beautiful these sets are. - Man, are they? - It just all vibes. It all works. - One hundred percent. - And you're still within it. You're playing jazz, like when I get to a point when I'm on a movie set, it's, when you start rolling, it's, it is like you guys, you trained, you talk about the installments you're going. Now it happens. Now you, you have to feel relaxed and confident enough with each other that we're playing. So that camera's got to capture what I'm doing. And I'm there with you. Actors come to me and say, "It's okay if I do that." I said, "Listen, you do you. I'm here for you. We're gonna play." Like you don't even have to tell me. Let's, let's just, we're, we've worked together. We're communicating. It's the same thing, but you're working, working, working. And I'm like, I always tell people, you know, everyone's a little nervous or whatever they're going. And I said, "I'm gonna embarrass myself." - Yeah. (laughs) - Come on now. - You and I said, "Come on." I said, "I want you to, I want you to step off." It's okay. We're together. I am your safety net and you are mine. We are all in this together. And I have to, I don't want to put those barriers there. You know, like you're gonna do something. You're in that open field. You have to go like, you gotta trust each other. - You gotta trust it, man. - And it's okay. You know, I've read stuff and I've seen stuff like with you where someone makes a mistake. And it's like. - Come on. I'm right here with you, big guy. - I'm right here with you. It's okay. - Can't have you thinking about what we just did. I got to think about where we're going, man. - That's it. And we all have to get to that place, artistically and in life. And depending on your team player, man. - That's it, guys. It's a good team, man. - Don't be afraid to be a good team. - Don't be afraid. That is exactly it. And you know what? These mistakes, that's yesterday. People get in it. It's like, I'm like you, that was two seconds ago. - Yeah, yeah. - We're gonna have fun. Let's create. - I gotta ask you about this character, Digger, man. Where did you get the Texas accent from, man? It is so fucking good at like, like, like, like, like, like. - Come on. - Is it somebody you ran into or it was just kind of just, it felt right when you started it up or what? - Here's what happens. - Feels a little like Jared Jones, I'm gonna say. - I'm not, I'm not gonna say the whole world. - I gotta go. - It's not this movie's not, this movie's not based on any way. - I'm gonna make it clear. It's really, it's not based on any way. Look, here's what I do. I've always created characters since I was a little kid. We were talking earlier. - Yeah. - I would create characters, write stories since I was a little, make my family laugh. And I've traveled around, like, I love going to countries and just meeting people and knowing people. And I'll lay in bed and I'll just think of characters that I wanna create in the future. - So fun, man. - And then I'll find a movie and I'll be like, I'm gonna put that character in this or I'm gonna explore that character in this or this tone with this movie. And that's what happened. Like, Jared, you came to me with this character. He had like different ideas and I was like, - I got one. - This guy's got balls, man. - Yeah, yeah. - I thought, like, this Alejandro, like, he's working with me the first time. He's like, I want you to do this. Like, what I do with directors and writers is, I don't read the scripts. I have them read it to me. - Oh, cool. - Okay. - I have them read it to me because I don't want my ideas to invade it yet. I wanna understand what is their communication. - Nice. - They've been working on it and they have things that are just there. So they come to me, you know, and I just sit there and I'm like, I want you to read it to me. And they'll read it to me and I'm like, okay. And I'm the audience. I am a movie. I'm a popcorn guy. - Come on there. - Like, I'm a meat and potatoes. - Popcorn, is it moving me or is it moving me? Am I invested and am I not invested? Where am I engaged? Where am I not engaged? That's just who I am. So they'll come to me and read, like, and I wanna hear what their ideas are. And a different, like, even every position on a movie, the creatively wardrobe lighting. I wanna hear what is their take on it. What are they gonna do? And then we get to a place where I start to understand and then I'm like, I know how to contribute to that motion. Then I'm, now it sparks ideas and I kinda have certain ideas that I have and certain things that I'd like to play with. And then I don't necessarily talk about it. I just do it. - Yeah. - Meaning, I'm not considered and say, I'm gonna do this, I'm gonna do that. It's like, like, I hear all the notes. I know lenses. I know the choreography. I know, tonally what they're going for. Because comedy, everyone goes sees comedy and they're like, no, there's all kinds of comedy. There's all kinds, like, satire. What is that? What is the rhythm? What is the music we're playing? That's when we're into jazz. That's when it's like, let me give me the baseline and I'm in there. And then now I'm just like, I know what we wanna go and let me, I'm not gonna talk about it. I see your lenses word together. And like, even with the camera operator, with Chivo, with Alejandro, we're playing jazz. - Oh yeah. - It's a jazzy feel to the, to the, to what you're getting out of the set. - It's like, when you hit that point with the movie, you want that. And that's the thing. And it's, it's always, like, you and I are talking about the different skills, you know, that you guys have. That's what I love. Like, I love your show. You're going in and you're doing stuff where you're looking at someone and you're living in their shoes, you know? - Literally, yeah. - Taylor, it's like, you guys, like, that, her music and her skill, I've been watching her, her whole life as a musician and as an artist, you're just like, man. And not afraid to go into other things, not afraid to direct stuff. You guys are like doing this, applying that kind of ability to other things. It's, that's, to me, that's life, the joy of creating. - Okay. - And not afraid to be like, the thing is like, with success, you feel people start gripping little too hard. - No. - And I was always like, I'm all in. - Yeah, yeah, yeah. - Like everyone's like, of course he made that movie. Of course that did well. It was like, it wasn't like that. Everyone's like, no, we don't want to do it. Oh my God, if it doesn't work. And I'm like, I'm going all in. Let's see what we can do. - Full send, baby. - That's just movies like, it is all in. - Yeah. - Well, I got to ask you one more about the, about digger. So the character, at least. - This fucking goat. (laughing) - You're one of the healthiest guys known to man from what you eat to recover you do. What was it like putting on that bodysuit every single day? - Oh, dude, I'm glad you asked that. - The prosthetics. - The first time I was like, you know, having that extra weight. (laughing) - My knees, I'm wearing the cowboy boots. - This is sitting down on the Sunday. - Sitting down on your thighs. - We had a thing, it was like, digger up, digger down. You know what I'm sweating because, I'm wearing these prosthetics. And the seeds, the takes, like you were talking about, their long takes and the rhythm of it. And how do you have to, you really have to know what you're doing, but I'm sweating underneath. So I came up with all these different things, like cooling machines, I'd be like, all right, let's digger up, everyone's there. Now we go, like, in between a take, it's like, let's digger down, you can see me. And I don't leave set. - Digger down. - I'm not interested in going to my trailer. I like being with the crew. I like being with everyone. - No, I like being there. - I like being there on the set. So they have a box for me and I'm always hanging out. Just there, I'm watching what they're doing. I'm vibing with Alejandro even in the director and everyone, even if we're not there. I'm just the actors. So I'm always there. The first time I, we did the makeup, it took six hours. Okay, so you see that character. - We got to cut this down. - And I'm doing this down. - I know, I'm doing the math. I'm always like, here's my day. I'm like, there's 24 hours in the day. Now they tell me, I need this much sleep, okay? So I go, how I need to do things so well to be so economical in what I'm doing. So that everything that I do when I'm there, it's like you for games. It's like, you got a peak in your game. So my days, I have to peak from the morning till night. How do I do it? And now I got six hours, so six, that's 18 hours. I got to sleep at least six, you know. - Yeah, yeah. - On a good day. - They keep saying, they keep saying. - Maybe more, but yeah, I need more. - But I'm just like, okay, that's 12. Now we have 12-hour days filming. - Yeah. - So now I'm going, now that's six hours on, two hours off with the makeup. So I was like, okay, now these, all these, they're the pinnacle of putting makeup on and everything. Like the amazing, so what I did was I said, look, one day they showed up, we started going, I had a chalk board up there with a racer and a marker. And with each piece, I put each piece on the thing and then I had a guy there with a stopwatch. (laughing) So that's called it's not this way. I had to stop watching. I'm like, okay, you see that time, six hours. I said, by the time we're done, we're going to get it under an hour. How about it? They were like, no, it's never, I'm not doing that. It never happened. I was like, okay. First of all, if you say, no, you can't do it. You'll never get there. So can we agree that we'll maybe make it a little less? There we go, yeah. And a little less. So then with each piece that was going on, it was timed and timed. And then they would drill and practice by the time we finished. Got it under an hour? Yes. How about it, baby? There you go. They didn't even know it. They didn't even rush. Right. So I like going into a system, studying it, trying to figure out how I can do it better, some more efficient so that I can, you know, the films that I make are very, I'm constantly going, how can I do it better? How do I prepare better so that I'm there for the directors? I'm there putting it into the editing room. I'm there for my cast and my crew. I'm there for the studio. So I'll study stuff and then I'll kind of go, I think maybe we could do this better. I'm sure you guys face at all the time. I'll tell you what, I don't know how you can make this one better, man. This is a fun one. It's a masterpiece. Well, I want to ask you because I was talking to Kevin, your guy, a little bit offset. And he was saying the film, in particular, with this movie that is shot on film, how, what was the thought process around doing that? Like everything, it's all about being efficient. Like it's probably more efficient to use digital stuff, and be able to cut and move it around easier, right? Like what's, what is the gain of doing it on film? Well, first of all, it's beautiful, very beautiful. The framing is beautiful. Oh, okay, too technical. It's like you want to find the correct frame that's going to communicate the emotion. Like you're talking about the tension. Like in that room, Alejandro really understands staging. It's sensational and his, it's also how, what lenses do we use? What format do we use? That's proper for that story. So it's not just like I did collateral, where we were developing digital. You know, this movie collateral, I did 20 years ago or whatever, but it was, you did digital because the environment needed to be part of the movie. You had to feel it. It's like what emotional value are you communicating? I'm always looking at what, am I using my tools that's creating the emotional fact we want to create? So when you look at VistaVision, first of all, VistaVision was developed in the 50s, 1950s, because television came on and television and people watching small screens are at home so they needed something to promote is actually paramount pictures that did it. And then in the 80s, they started cutting up theaters. And I was like, I don't want, you know, when I was getting, I studied every part of movies, studios and distribution. I was meeting with all those guys. I was like, stop cutting up the theaters. Let's, let's, and so I pushed the format of 65 millimeter these cameras, we pulled it out, we did a movie far and away for it to try to not only promote, but it's very beautiful looking. The clarity and took a while, a couple of decades before people kind of now were back to this. VistaVision was developed, they used it, then started to use it like ILM used it with visual effects, you know, it's just how the clarity, the frame, the richness of the frame and what you're able to do with it. It's just very beautiful. And compositionally it works for the tone of this film or how Alejandro was able to shoot the film. - Yeah, yeah, it did. - Even the lenses, they're custom lenses that were built for this to make it look very cinematic. When people see the film, they're gonna be like, it's just so rich look. - It's gorgeous. - It's gorgeous. And the detail, you know, you and I were talking about plays and football and you're giving me the insides and the level of skill and artistry behind this crew, like the miniatures that are used, the film, it's all very practical, but it's for a purpose for the movie. That gives you that emotional vibe. - That's so cool. - It's a film like I'll be curious, you see it again, like you get more and more out of the film in a second. I'm saying this just a second ago. I feel like this is a movie that you watch and you pick more upon, whether it's the visual portion of it, like even like start the movie, there's that cat. You know, like why the heck do they have this like? - Why is it just a real cat? Why is there a real body cat? What is going on with this cat? And I'm captivated, you're feeding it. I don't want to give away too much. I don't know what we're allowed to sneak at you in just like this. - But you can't, but you know, that's why that cat is like that. - I love that cat. There's probably so much more to pick up in a second watching. It's absolutely enthralling. It's captivating. There's, I mean, it is enriched in truth, which that monologue, I mean, that's where that truth just comes back full circle. - 'Cause they 10 minute monologue, one take in a fat suit. It would you see it in a fat suit, I like. - Oh man, I was like, will you start sweating? I don't want to sweat my makeup around in there. - You're moving around in there too, man. - You're up and down the steps. - You're all over the back. Freedom, baby. It is really good. It's so fucking amazing. - You demand a supply. (laughing) Dude, it's so good, it's up. - It's funny because when I made, when I-- - Bang, bang, bang. - Dude. - You know, when I made movies back in the '80s and '90s, we were able to, like, the films that it's like I'm making rainman or born in the 40th and top gun, like people like, those movies you'd stay in the theaters for a year. So they became, my films are, you know, the language. I enjoy the motion and language. That's why I study dance. I study martial arts. I'm constantly, I study what you guys do and how you're training is because that is a communication. How it's very subtle. I don't want people to notice things. Sometimes with less grossment or different things you can bring it or magnolia. There's different physicality that that character allows that level of physicality. So movies would play for, anyway, they'd play for a very long time and you see the verbal quality of language. And now movies, it's like you have a weekend. So when you see this character like Digger, that is very, it is layered. It is a movie that the second and third viewing, you're just, it's a, you're gonna get more and more and more at a bit more enjoyment. In the same way where I'm going, I want people to see it before it gets on streaming. - Yes. - And then it becomes years later, like I'll travel the world and people are quoting the lines back, from different films. Like I quote lines back with my other films. - Oh, it's favorite. - Do a song. - You know what I mean? You go to a concert and they're singing the songs back. So that's kind of what I think of movies. And so anyway, that's kind of things when we're looking at movies now, how you want it to live longer in theaters. That's so cool. Well, we got to ask about one of our favorite guys that you worked with. We're a John Goodman family. - Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - I don't mind me of my dad a little bit. - You remind me very much of the kids. - And in this movie, they could, they, I feel like-- - I'm sorry to compare you to John Goodman. - Yeah, I'm sorry, John, you know what I'm saying? You were the second wave of the blues brothers. We're blues brothers family as well. So how was it working with John? He absolutely crushed it. - He's brilliant. I don't think he knows how brilliant he is. - He's just too smooth man. - It's like the characters that he's created, I agree with you. He's just, he has such a unique power as an artist. I've always loved his stuff. From the moment you see him, he gets on screen, I'm leaning in. - Right. - And every film this guy does, every performance, you know, he's playing Bay Breuth. He's doing, you know, he's in, just a name. Well like Walter and Big Lebowski, that's one of my favorite. - Yeah, exactly. Like, he's just got one classic character after the next. And it's funny, I remember just seeing, I've always wanted to work with him. He's like, one of those guys, you just want to go. So I'm there on set with him. I'm like, I always want to work with you man. I'm so excited you're doing this. - Hell yeah. - I would just make sure I show up early, you know, so that we could just, in between, I wanted to distract as we're doing it, but we could just kind of hang and talk about movies and talk about experiences. And it was wonderful. - That's awesome man. - The back and forth between you two and the film. - It's a good call. It was just so hard hitting and then John has kind of his version of one. And the like facial expressions he's making. And like, I'm laughing. I am laughing out loud in the movie. - In tears. - Yeah. - He's like, you knew. - Yeah. - On the end. (laughing) - On the end. - On the end. - Two. - It is so good. - You're just like, I'm like, oh. - On the end. - Oh man. (laughing) - God damn. - He's awesome. The whole cast. I mean, Riz and we just had fun. We're just doing it. - Hell yeah man. - The acting is incredible. You guys are gonna love the film. - Absolutely. - You have to check the sound theater. It is. It's beautiful. The acting is out of this world. And the journey you go on through the movie is just completely captivating. You will absolutely love it. - Buckle up. - It's fantastic. - And like, how do you? - The way it goes from that monologue. There's so much truth in that. And then before that, there's so many times where people can stop them, right? Can say something, but he diggers able to push them down, right? The scientist, he's like, you want to lose your dollar? It's like, okay, if I'm with them, then do it. Yeah, again. - All right. - You're the boss. - Yeah. - And then it's like that moment where he's like, all right. You're putting this on me? - Yeah, you, you all hand yourself. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. - Well done, Tom. Killed it again. - Well done again. - Hey, by the way, I sit next to Taylor Lester. She told me, it's like, I don't know if I like to sit. You guys use this, but it was so funny. She's telling me about your rules. You know, first day we were talking about oh, yeah, oh, yeah, but also what she said was How she was like having you to like how was it like you to like Playing again, I kidding each other Then we were out there basically boxing each other She goes I said is it okay if I mentioned it this is oh yeah, yeah, how about that? It's like and now she knows everything she sees the flags coming in like oh that was that that might be a defensive hold I was like what would you say sweetie? Oh, she was she was right. She's like that. That's encroachment I'm like do you know what that is yeah, she's she's on and now that was one of these. It was so enjoyable Meeting her at the bills game and seeing how much like say is in Oh, she's in So far like really trying to announce I mean it's been a few years ago. Yeah, she was she was schooling me Yeah, this happened. That's happening. She's coming. It was like here was awesome. Oh, yeah, I got her She's she I mean she's similar to you in terms of you just want to understand you want to know the knowledge You want to know the the the the tiny my new details of everything and you just want the knowledge and to be able to understand and once you understand it and a and this is anything in life once you understand the full Gambit of of everything that that is that is a part of a show or a part of a team or a part of a a sport It makes it that much more fun to watch because you're seeing it from such a smaller lens and and you're so appreciative of the the bigger album, you know, I agree with you That's why she loves doing the directing our music video. She likes to to feel the you know She's really not on similar from what you've been describing in the way you like to learn everything Yeah, they have your like knowledge of why everybody's here and what they do like here and take talk about music from the story to the rhythm to the the visual that you're getting so I mean she just gets engulfed in it and she loves it And you can tell that she loves it just by the outcome of and her whole life. You can exactly yeah even before when you see that of and it also like really understanding what people are up against what they're doing understanding it You just have an appreciation for people and humanity and skills and ability. Yeah, and you look at it. It's like I mean she's a cook Painter writer poet and look at you. It's like being able to take something and then create in it It's I don't know I just I admire that like when I see people like I'm always like going around and like looking at their skills Trying to understand that and then I learn from it and and how do we apply it? That's the best mine. I appreciate you saying that. Oh, just a beautiful couple. Thank you, man. I really appreciate it It's it's it's it's it's lovely and every way and your whole family and your friends, you know from the moment that I that I've met you all It's just it's really beautiful. Thank you for that big guy. You are no man. It's nice. I'm a lucky son of a buck man Yeah, but you know what you create your own luck man. He has pulled in the same way In the same way like and as you're going through it and you too, man. It's like your family everything. It's like you You have a choice of how you're gonna You're gonna lift everybody up or you can focus on the negative, you know, and it's not just being bluebird Pine the sky everything's gonna be great You gotta figure out why it didn't work and then adjust it, but you gotta have that That vibe of we're gonna make this work no matter how hard this story is. Yeah, there's the Sun's behind it You gotta believe it. It's always there man. You gotta believe it. Yeah, even if that forecast doesn't say it even that forecast is it's it sometimes it's wrong We just got to get above the clouds. We just got to get above the clouds. That's my life. That's my life That's it. I like that. You just got to get above the clouds. That's all you just got to get above the clouds All right, thank you to our presenting sponsor Nesan. That's right and their new limited series Tell them a heisman sent you. That's right. We're Tim T. 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Yeah, this is like I mean your filmography all of the films you've done There's so many just like Incredible film one after the other. I do have a question. You don't do you have one of them that you think is a little like underrated or that people don't bring up enough that you love I don't really know It's fascinating when I travel the world and I love traveling the world I kind of created my created the red carpet premier so I could go to different cultures and it's amazing to me how they what they Quote back what they love what trends what goes through it. I was gonna say is there you get some fun ones from like Random parts of the world that you would have never expected or has had just one to pop in your mind. I'm like it happens all the time That's so cool. I gotta say like it's I dreamed as a little kid like to travel the world make movies. I wanted adventurous life. I wanted to know people I want I just want to know I want to I'm interested and I want to climb mountains and All the stuff that I've been doing. Yeah, and to be able to go there and suddenly someone in countries like quoting back like show me the money Beautiful man beautiful all the way from taps. I'm like what yeah, yeah, sorry I'm still that kid that's like what is happening. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, this is wild. Yeah, yeah, you know It's it's still that thing of this is amazing Yeah, and I've always like I just make the movie the joy in creating it and I can see I'm just going to keep creating and You could kind of go through it and anyway, that's kind of what it is I don't know I just do it and what people like they like it and I like different range of film Yeah, you know this film Dugor in particular feels like a different film that you've ever done before it really it It really does yeah I'm like in yari - like come on man. Yeah, man another one. Let's go. Let's go. He's great. He is fantastic It is look it's it it takes Every bit of my skill as an artist to be able to play this character It's and it's fun. It's not like every bit of skill. It's like You got to know you know, I know that frame and vestivision when you see that composition you see those things It's like being inside the game and outside the game and in it and out that's that's what's happening on every level It's everybody. I love it man. Is there is there any so you've you've you've been known to just be an absolute You want to get engulfed and you want to know the knowledge you you love watching cinema movies Was there something in terms of your preparation for Digger that you kind of wanted to like were there any movies that you that you Outed got inspiration from was was there anything that yeah in that world like getting ready to to go into the filming of digger really isn't but One of the things because I knew how the writing was because I know these movies So if you look at if you look at the early 30s 40s and 50s films the use of language Artists you know when you started out an actor would go in and they would put them to acting class and dancing and singing and Language and the literary sea level and use of language was in a different place and the rhythm of it so That kind of stuff where you're looking at whether you know his girl Friday or that has this you know Lubitsch, you know these kinds of guys that I've just studied When you look at risky business when you hear these monologues when there's things that I look at in terms of just music and Musicians where I see the phrasing, you know, you look at it's not just seeing you're hitting the notes It's the communication the phrasing that's behind it the words are like I'm everyone's like how was it learning the monologues like I don't even think of that. It's really I'm no I'm exploring and I'm finding the pieces of music. I'm learning I'm learning the bass line so that when it's there I'm I'm not I'm alive and I'm acting I know the points that I had have to hit. I know, you know, I can see the frame. I know it's, I know this division. I know as this stuff's turning, I can picture what that frame is going to be on that particular note for that particular moment. But to be doing all this and to be locked in on this, I doubt like, bro, there's so much out there going on right now. You're literally working like you can't even count the milliseconds in what your brain is. But you know what you're in it and you got to play Alejandro played these movies for the actors to show them. It's like, this is the, you have to go with this timing. This is the beat, but you have to hit that beat. You got to play jazz within it. You have to be present. It's like, you know what it's like? You can't be thinking about what happened the last play. People go, I have to be present and in future, your present and in the future, you know, and you can't, it's like, you can't articulate it. You know it's going to be open at that point. He perceives. There's a perception that happens, you know, with people that you're like, that's just it. Yeah. When you're, we've mentioned the monoloxine a bunch. You mentioned reading it. You knew right? Well, like this is, are there a part where you're like in a scene, whether it's you on the tidy, whitey scene, you complete me, show me the money, tropic thunder, whatever scene it is, where you're just like, this is going to be something that people are going to latch on to. Do you know it while you're doing it? There's some moments when I'm dancing in my tidy, whitey scene, I'm like, this, I know because I'm done in my cell. I was like, running, I'm going, and the director's like, here's a doorway frame and I'm like, I got this. It's pretty sweet. I got some socks to make sure this thing's nice and shine. That's it. But it was like that. It's like when I went through it. It's like, man, I spun all the way across the floor and I'm like, I need to be center of frame into here. You know. So I was like, I got the prop guys. I can put some, some things there. I made sure I had the socks. So you just, you can, and you're just having fun. And you're in it. And you're just like, I think it's cool. Yeah. I can't wait to do the scene. And the only problem with making movies is you don't get to do it again. Yeah. You know what I mean? So that monologue or different things. I'm just like, you just know, I was, if I'm interested in it or someone, you can always tell if someone is passionate, you're talking about purpose. You know, we were talking about that. Yeah. Yeah. Like what's your purpose? Why are you doing it? Everything. I'm going, what's my purpose? And you can see what you put your attention on. You give life. Yeah. Yeah. I hear you. It is wild. If you put your attention into that negative, it's going to go there. If you put your attention on that positive and keep moving and seeing correctly, what is correct for you? So I see it with directors. There's, what are you interested in? You start putting your attention there and help me help you. It's like, I, you can't wait. But movies are also, they're living things. It's not like it's all there on the page. Yeah, you have a guideline, but you're reaching for a tone and you're discovering it. That's the exciting thing. The unknown. You're like, where are we here? You know, you guys must feel it in every play that you're doing. It's like, okay, we practice is not quite what we wanted, but well, there's the thing on the page. Oh, yeah. And I'm, there's the line that you're supposed to run and try to talk space all the time. But then you go out there and you have a feel. What's the defense doing? Where are my other guys at? Spatial awareness? We're talking about over there. Like, I'm sure it's all very similar. It is. My daughters, they have one favorite song that we always play. They're gorgeous. Oh my gosh. Oh my gosh. There's so much fun, man. Oh my gosh. And they always say, Dad, play rock and roll. Play about sugar. And I'm thinking, I want to know, they're dancing around the game version of their way to Chinese. I've got a picture and it's on his way to Chinese. So that's that's a favorite in our houses. And get that car stealing that car. Yeah. I did that. Yeah. I used to sit on a phone book and race the car out the streets. Oh yeah. Yeah. Okay. How about it? I was so small. I was like, had to get left phone, but I didn't have my license, you know? The music and a lot of your movies. It's, it's insane. Like, do you know how many songs that are from your career that we would play it in the locker room? Like, down, down, down, down. And like, we're getting ready to go out there and play football. Like, I just, I'm doing anything like intents or like mischievous. I just got the thing. That's why I made that's why I made it. I saw the TV series when I was a kid. I was like, that music. Really? That's why I did it. I was like, I know, but thank you. I look, I love music. I've been fortunate so many talented people to work with. I learned, learned so much. That's awesome. Where does the music come first in those scenes? Or is it the other way around? Most of the time, like, I don't like to edit with music because I want you want to find the musicality within the within the movie for that language. So, but sometimes like we're and, you know, sometimes it's like you find that piece of music and I've made the mistake. I edited it and I can't. I got to get that piece of music, you know? But like that, Dan, and I remember I was in San Diego 1985. First of all, it's like Top Gun. The studio wanted to do this movie for a year or whatever I finally meant because like this movie is going to can't wait. But I heard that piece of music that Harold Fultamire wrote. And I was actually with my whole family. They were down there in San Diego and making it. And I was just, it was fourth of July. And I just had it on cassette. I was like, epic. I like this is this. You know, I knew Top Gun was get what it was going to be as we are working on it and developing it is like you hear that that too. And you're just like, am I a hero? Why is this song making me feel like? I don't know. I don't feel like with it. It's just special. Yes, exactly. Yes, it's like what's happening. You could be here like this and suddenly you're like, what's feeling? Suddenly, I, I don't know. I can fly jets. I can do. I don't know. This is like, well, you've been notorious for stunts and everything. Was it? Were you just trying to find one in digger? Were you just like, I got to find a stunt. The fat suit. That was the whole time. The whole time. The whole time. The fat suit compared to being on the outside of an airplane. Which a level of difficulty. High or higher. You just hang on. There's a certain point you're just hanging out and hoping you don't get hit with something. It kills you. You're just going to hope I don't get hit by a bird. You know, I hope the engine doesn't stop. I'd take off. You know, we were talking about it just a second ago, but I've never put it together. That you like to do these stunts, but there's so many people relying on you not dying. Like is that is that going through your head while you're doing these stunts? I go, okay, if we die, this whole thing is screwed. I know. First of all, I enjoy the stunts. I love doing the stunts. I was doing them since I was a little kid. I create my own stunts. Making ramps in the backyard. Where did all start? I jump off a trampolines. I tell you what, it started out. I was a little kid and I opened the window and I climbed it out of the roof. And I'm like two and a half, three years old. Okay. That's a little yard. That's right. But I like to look at the stars. The neighborhood call. I was like, I think there's a child. Yeah. And my mom was like, oh my goodness. Honey, this is all actually, this is out of your battery. Oh lord. Oh lord. My mom will be like, honey, why are you just like not trying to scare me? Come on over. She used to like bake cakes to get me out of it. You like, I'd climb the tree on windy days because I like the feel of it. But it wasn't just the stunts. It was something very aesthetic. And I would see movies and I'd see like singing the rain. How they could dance and they moved. And I looked at motion in a very unique way. And and I would think of things like the first time I got a airplane was about five, six years old. And I'm sitting next to the window and we're taking off and we're taxing. And I'm looking out the window, looking out the window. And I'm looking at everyone there. And all I could think of was as we're taking off, I looked at the wing and I thought, how cool would it be to be out there? I don't know why. I was like, that's what I always been in here. That sounds cool. That seems cooler. That seems cooler. So nobody's ever done that. I was thinking like airplanes and then you kind of go, what story can I tell with that? Like how can I, I used to create characters and entertain audiences? But that's the kind of stuff that I did. I would climb out of that. I did so many things and I didn't do it well. Like I'd break bones and I'd end up in the hospital. My mom would be like, please honey. And then please don't do that. Please. She actually never said don't do it. What she would do is she'd bake a cake and she'd be like, it's really windy. Why don't you come down here? I got some cake for you. You can have some sugar. Was it a coconut cake? This is coming. You all already have it. We all already have it. So the thing is, it's just to entertain. You know, as a kid, it's like in a life. People are like, don't do that. No, no, no. I'm like, less motion. We want you to sit still in class and don't move. And I'm like, I was always the guy looking out and dreaming. And I'm like, you can dream. And I, it's not just because I'm like, other people can do it. You can create your own way and do your, have your own adventures. And I think that's what life is. And I always wanted adventurous life. And for me, it's about humanity. It's about those kinds of things. So when we get to stunts and stuff, it's, yeah, then the people sometimes look, I, to answer your question, what happens? Like I would do stuff and people like their eyeballs, you know, like this and their knees. And I was like, I gotta make sure people aren't standing next to me. 'Cause I'm trying to, before I'm doing it, I'm like, it's gonna be okay. And then, then, I don't want if that vibe. - No, no, no, no, no. - Like you know what, before you game, you're going into the game, people are going. - You're, you're, make sure, you're making me anxious now. - Yeah, I know, I'm like, I don't need that. - This is gonna be okay. - I felt really comfortable before I knew the guys. - I feel real good. It's like everyone go, I feel very relaxed. I know what I'm gonna do. You know, if shit goes wrong, you know, we have steps in place. - The last thing you want in a huddle is a quarterback walking in there who doesn't do sure about what's going on, like, but I need some confidence. - This is the last thing to be what we're doing, where we're going. - Yeah, we're getting that. - And you don't want anyone looking at you. - Like, it is successful. - We're gonna run this round, but I'm like, - Thousand yards there. We don't need that, no. - No, I know, but then you realize it's like, yeah, 'cause my whole thing is, is I want people, you know, I want those pay those mortgages. I want my movies as a kid. I was like, I just want my movies to do well enough that I can go all in on the next one. - Yeah. - You know, that I can learn more, go all in and that it creates money so everyone get their bonuses and that other artists get to go make their movies. Like, for me, I'm always thinking, how do I open this up so that other people can have that opportunity? I, it's not like, oh, do it my way. What, what I love and, you know, talking to you guys, hearing about your life, hearing how do you see life? What do you see? I'm, it's like, what do you see? What's life like for you? What is art for you? What are your, what is that? That, I, I think that's just interest me more than anything. It's like. - It's fascinating, man. - I'm with you. - I've never met a normal person. - Come on. - We're talking about it. Like, guys, it's like, I want to be normal. I'm like, I talked a lot of people. - You're gonna be real boring. - You're gay. (laughing) - I've never met a boring person in my life. - Yeah, right. - Ever. - You just did the cover for GQ. - Come over from one GQ cover to another cover. - That's it, let's go. - GQ, man. - The one shot with the hat and the boat tie untied on Hollywood Boulevard. Were you just walking around just? - Yes. - It didn't look like anything, like it was like a set. Were you just walking around on Hollywood Boulevard? - Yeah. - I was on with those guys. You know, Adam's editor did a beautiful job. They're like, I said, you know, choreographers, guys, brilliant. And the whole team, everybody was great. But we were there. We had so much fun. And everyone's, you know, 'cause you know what it's like. We want you here. It's safe here. Go there. And I was like, what do you want to do? Like, what's your dream? Let's have fun. - Let's have some fun doing it, man. - And they're like, I want to go on a Hollywood Boulevard. I was like, let's do it. And everyone's like, okay, what's that said? So we set it up. You know, I'm just in the car. I had changed in the car. We just, they kind of played set it up. And then I'd step out, do the shot. And then we'd jump back in before the crowd came. And then we'd go to the next place and jump out. It was so much fun, man. - There you go. - It was fun. You got it. - I'll tell you what, when I was doing mine, the idea came up to go into the Everglades and stand on the roots of the, like, top of the Everglades. I think the lilies or whatever they are. - Vegetation. - Yeah, whatever the vegetation is. - And hold, hold a alligator. And I'm just like, let's fucking do it. - You kidding me? Let's do it. I look back and I'm looking at, I tell Lindsey. All the time. I'm like, you let me do that. - Yeah, what is the matter with you people? - You want us there like that? - What is the matter with you guys over there, like putting sticks in the ground just to make sure there weren't any gators underneath me. I'm just like, what, there was one 100% gators underneath that stage. - There's no gators. - There's no gators. You're gonna be all right. - What is it, we got it. - Here big boy, that's gators get a run. - Yeah. - That's exactly what they were saying. - That gators get a run. He's, and we've seen you run you fast. - But he was so much fun. - We've seen him run, he'll get you, he'll run it. We'll just tell him, get ready to tell him. - No, man, it was so much fun, but you're right, man. - How about that, that's an adventure. - Oh, it's so much fun. But they put me on these fly boards down the water. They like, connects to Jetski, and it's just like shoot you out. I felt like I was a Marty McFly and back to the future. I'm just how you're hovering around. - So cool. - That's cool stuff, man. I was fortunate. I had to ask you about the ZQs. - That's awesome. - Congrats on that. - That was awesome. - Congrats to you too. - We're gonna get to this portion. We gotta ask you, Tom, which is just a rapid fire question. Feel free to throw them back at us too, if you have any. - I am curious if you were to have a different occupation, or like what would you be doing? - That's good. I don't know. I didn't have Plan B. - No, I don't have Plan B. - Just like you, like look, also you know. - It's a good way to make sure Plan A works out. - That's it. There was no plan because I gotta take care of my family. I'm like, this is it. I'm gonna make it work. And here's the thing, yep, and all in. I'm all in. With everything I do, I'm all in. No, it's also, I do have a question. It's like, talking about that, like the success, the interest that you have in others and skills. You guys know it from developing a skill. Now, you start out as quarterback. And you, many different sports you guys both, but now look at this. You, I mean, as you're evaluating. - That was Plan A. Titan was always Plan B. - But, but how about that in terms of? - It became, it became plan B. - But how about that in terms of learning different skills and viewing the world? - That's the thing, yeah. - And your world, yeah. - Like you're talking about coaches and different coaches and different techniques. It's like, it is a different language. Every, if you look at a subject, every subject has its own wording, its own vernacular. And there's usually only a couple of hundred words. And if you understand that subject and you can find those couple of hundred words, it becomes, goes from a confusion to order. - Right, yeah. - So as you're going through it and you're learning your plays and you're putting things in, when you're starting out looking at the 600 plays you guys have to do, there's a confusion. So you got to figure out how do we put order within that confusion. But you're talking about things that I, 'cause I didn't think, oh, this is what I'm gonna do, I just, I was just doing it. And then I have to think back of going, what worked, what were the successful actions? Don't you guys feel that? Like, what are you thinking? Like, to be able to apply those skills to what you're doing in your business or your life or what things are successful on the team? - There's carry over and all of it for sure. And Trav talks about all the time. In fact, he played quarterback has made him a better tied-ed. - We thought it out, yeah. - He thinks about the game also with that perspective in mind. - And I naturally understand the rhythm of the plays, depending on what that quarterback's drop is, his footwork, in terms of timing, I understand what he's doing without even looking at him. So I know my timing and my route is gonna match up with what he's doing in the pocket. And it's just, it's mirrored up because I was fortunate enough to be in the tie-down, or be in the quarterback room and understand the techniques of what he's got going on, where his eyes are in terms of, and you hear it through how the coaches are coaching him, how, and, but it's just a different world being actually in that room. And Jason has the same thing of being a middle linebacker and going to center. He understands the gap assignments. He understands defense to offense like that. - But then you see the linebacker, okay, the linebacker should be in this A gap. So if he's over there, that means this-- - Something else is coming. - Something else is gonna show up in this gap. There's a single high safety. These guys should be pushed over here to cover this receiver, really. You know what their rules are, and that helps you then assign your job more effectively, or anticipate what they're about to do. And it's, there's carry over, and there's a lot of coaches actually do that, where like they'll have offensive players in an off season, go and sit in a defensive room, so that they can hear it from the other side. And I think it's always a good idea to do that. I probably don't have so much time. So how much are we gonna waste from doing offensive line plays and wrapping that stuff, to let them learn why defensive linemen are lining up with, you know, as a three technique, instead of a four-eye shaded on the tackle. Like, we're talking about like a six-inch difference, but could completely change the way that guys gonna play for the play. So, yeah, that's the stuff-- - You find that like, that's-- - That's the stuff I'm gonna write out on. Oh yeah. - You look on tape. - Yeah, you look on tape. - Yeah, you look like that. - It's sick. - Yeah, it's sick. - I had to ask, we would watch-- - But when I moved the tight end, I had to have like, how are you-- - Honestly, it's the thing I'm looking at on defense. - Well, it's probably the thing I missed. Probably one of the things I missed most from the game is that like, looking throughout the week, and like staring at a nose guard, to see if he gives any type of tell when he's gonna slant, or a defensive end when he's gonna drop. Like, man, every time that nose guard is slant, I even wanna say this on camera, 'cause this is a great tell that people probably don't even know they're doing, but whenever a D-Lime puts his forearm on his leg, they don't even realize it, but they're pushing off their leg. So whenever I was in my stance, and I saw a nose guard with his forearm on his leg, I'm like, he's gonna slant. And then I look over and I'm sure enough the nickel would be capped. But if his hand was up and ready to strike me, he's playing his gap straight, so he's gonna stay in that gap. And you're looking for any of these like little things throughout the week, and it might be the smallest thing, but if you got a hundred percent tip on something, you're going into with the cheat code. You can check into the perfect play, a screen, we were playing the Jets, I'm like, dude. - They're bringing the nickel Jets. (laughing) - They're bringing a free season. - Oh yeah. - Nickel. - Check it out, and what was the rocket laser? Go laser, and we're sure that we run a screen, get a touchdown, yeah. That's the stuff that's the fun stuff. - Did you ever play somebody in the league? I don't make it. very curious about this. Did you ever play somebody in the league that had the set that you knew had the same attention to detail as you and you and you and you would flirt with doing stuff like put in the hand on the knee types that type. Well, whenever you play a lot like the older the older the nose guard because you're usually messing with the nose. That's guy staring at you. Maybe the middle linebacker you would mess with points right? Like it's now they all look at the tape and like look at the center point of this way. Real complicated. The protection is going that way. So then as I got you guys I'm going to dummy point this one. So I point this way but I call the guy over here. Yeah. So then the guy on tape is setting the blitz away from the person you're starting to mess with. That's right. Then uh nose guards. You start to lean. People don't really use it's not even a lot but you just lean a little bit if he's feeling there. He's knows that. So you're leaning a little bit to the left to try and influence this guy to kind of step this way to start to play and then go right right? Is that right? So you know he's doing it. But that could play a smart guy like I'm playing juvenile hardgrave and I would lean a little bit on the hard count to get guys to jump and I just lean very slightly just a little hard. And the nose guard smart guy right in the way he's like you being too obvious. That's good. That is good. But how about that within seconds now? It's fascinating. It's it's literally like and there's guys on the deep inside. Luke Keith is calling the plays out. I still remember we're running. We line up and Keith was like watch the way I mean I'm like fuck this place is done. No, but this is not going to work. And it's too late to change it. Well you you I don't have that authority. Yeah. Like the quarterback could change it but that's if we're calling the way we usually call it to run into the right look and but the funny thing is he knows it come he even said it. The place still hit an after a place. I told you it's coming. I'm like he did. He told all you guys. You should listen to him. Yeah. But in that interesting it's like you look at stuff and you're going you're in the future. Like you're able to see it and you're predicting and the only way to be able to do that is if you have the correct technology with which to look at something it's it's not just a guess it's like you just got to go you had the right information you had the right perception and people think like you're running or you're doing that you're perceiving beyond your own space and all that stuff like that's why I train in aerobatics that's you know you see me on a motorcycle and I'm traveling that camera's right there and I'm traveling 130 miles an hour with me and it's like there you got to perceive not just that camera the other guy's there in the road right yeah but that's some cool stuff that's that's the stuff that I geek out like that is the stuff that I'm looking at and people it's not even analytical at times you just you just you you you perceive it like that like I'm riding and you you know if I'm there in stunts I'm going into traffic order I'm perceiving I don't have to explain about I perceive the hands on the steering wheel and you could just go is it you know you're flying and it's just a wing and I'm right you know the next airplane's just a little higher than that I'm right under we're doing we're doing rolls and loops and you just think you just you perceive this but also with an actor you know you're in a scene and that camera's moving you're there and you're it's not analytical yeah but you you're just that's jazz yeah yeah that's jazz the game within the game baby guys it's a game but it's it's fascinating talking about it because some people don't understand what it why or how why did it work how did it work that's just fascinating it's fascinating to me man it's the best you were you were talking about some training we got to talk about the pain cave man I told you guys when we were in tailors I said I told you guys I said come to my pain cave yes I'm in I'm fascinated I'd be interested to see you're doing 650 squat I'm like I'd be interested to see you destroy these machines both you guys I'd be fascinated the problem is my endurance is low I'm I'm geared up for the three to four reps once you start getting north of that I go all it is it's like look I'm I'm like you know when you're hitting hard that pain cave like it's it's I'm just curious we saw the guys who welcome anytime you will give me time it's working we don't want to see you kind of bring it yeah I don't know you got to you got to show up you got to show up we mentioned directing have you ever thought about directing will you direct you know what I I've since I was a kid you know friends are like you should direct you should do it it's I've studied the old movies and these guys are able to make four movies a year I want to make a lot of movies and I've wanted to make a lot of films and I love working with different directors I love learning from them seeing their stories setting the table for them giving them opportunities you know it's you just see talented people and we're sure you guys are like it it's like look you guys weren't drafted first round you know you you know but they saw that lighten you and that ability and you guys bring it and I like you know the people that I'm choosing are working maybe not everybody knows necessarily some do some don't but I'm not just talking about directors is everything and I'm going the fun of of that to have that opportunity if I'm directing I don't get to do that I don't have that experience that's kind of the way that I think about things the studio the lives and I want I want it to last so that's what I'm thinking when I'm making a movie that's what I feel about directors I want to help them they cinematographers the actors and I want to learn let's like and I like seeing their point of view on things and I like mixing it up like days of thunder and movies gonna be fun yeah I can't wait to get me in that race car get man please hell yeah hell you say hell yeah hell yeah you know you know what I'm saying you're that car you're that car come on now come on now I remember used to be able like I back in the 80s I had in my sister I was like you know I'm driving around Daytona 200 miles an hour you know with these cars and we had to open helmets we had the seats and my sister was six months pregnant I was like hey gas you know jump in the car you know I was giving my sister on so they get in and they just hold onto the rails like this everyone was like no issues no issues no no like no HR coming away to say hello is like go for spin go for spin what do I do just hang on just hang on you're gonna be good I'm not gonna be all right 200 miles an hour going right up it gets you all go give her a couple laps just like whoever is like that was awesome next now it's like you got to sign here yeah how's that what speed miles like look this is the shot is what we're gonna do yeah you say you you try to watch movie a day or a bunch of them is there any genre you're in right now or is there a movie you've seen that you're you were like damn that was a good one or many I go back and forth looking at just preparing for looking preparing for days so I'm you know I'm studying just different just different camera angles of motion looking at a lot of wide wide range of films so I'll even like look at videos and see what are they doing what are what are we doing I'm looking at I'm looking at older technology so I um be in the old head in the building I I brought old head at what 36 is that right are you like the old head oh yeah I'm the in the NFL world that is yeah exactly yeah they actually call me OG in film yeah OG of course I got Jay looks on yeah a lot of the newer teammates that I got weren't born until after 2000 so I brought in my 13-inch box Panasonic TV with the little VCR in it yeah and there is something so soothing about watching a VC like a VHS on a old Panasonic or just I don't know what it is I just pop in movie after movie I'm just like getting them all sent to the facility and I'm just popping in movie after what do they like it's what do they like when they just kind of sit up and it's just like they're like this looks terrible it's everybody stops and watch it yeah but here's a deal you look it like vinyl it's came back around it's came back around I've always been real to real in vinyl I'm an audio file perfect time we got some vinyl in the back I know we got vinyl and here's the thing if you look it there's dead reckoning with mission I was like I want the I want that vinyl store at the beginning of the movie I want to build I just keep putting it there I'm just I'm like I put it there and make this the store look beautiful you know at the beginning of the movie we're in a record store with vinyl yes and now it is coming back because the quality is so fantastic and it's you know and you're seeing it so I love that she's pushing that and that kind of stuff we want that yeah they want it people are going now I don't want to be on my phone yeah I want real I'm not I'm interested I'm not interested in the digital I want what's what what's the tangible something I can hold on my hands I even the VHS like even though the picture doesn't look as good you're right there is something where it's like this thing is a thing yeah it does it it's not in like some cyber world that is going around this it's right in my hands and I give yeah I know I do something about it and it's not just and back like in the theater like we were we watched the grid you're in a space and there's the the sound that you hear it feels so much more alive being in that place yeah look I'm not I'm nothing against streaming or anything yeah that that everything has this place everything and I I guess I'm just I'm a it's like being at the stadium last night those people are so nice in that stadium like in your box in the boxes next to it everyone is we're we're all there I just go into Taylor's concert. It's like, and all of us together last night, and the whole crowd up there, everyone's just having fun and communicating, and we're enjoying like this experience. I don't know what to say, it's like, that's, that's like what it's about, that is what it's about. That is, that is fun, tangible man. - Well, sitting right here, it's tangible. I was like, you guys, it's like, I wanna do this, you guys are together, I said, I'm not doing this on Zoom. - Yeah, no. - No way, I wanna be here, I wanna talk football, I wanna hear about your all's lives, and have some fun this way, this is. - This is a lot of fun. - This is fun, man. - Ton, thank you so much for coming time, this is incredible. - Awesome. - And if you wanna have some fun, October 2nd, make sure you go and see Digger. You will enjoy it, it's gonna be a, you're gonna have a reaction. It is gonna take over you, I promise you that. - And to prove it. - And to prove it. - To prove it, we gotta a special little clip here, we're gonna show you these guys. - Yeah, yeah. - Bring your sneak peek. - Good, good. - Enjoy. - I played ball in school. Only game my granddaddy came to, I had a home run over to fence by 20. - You did car round the way home, my granddaddy said, I'm gonna give a shit about your home run, Digger. And he one could get a home run. Triples is what's impressive. Triples requires hustle and hustle. Digger is something that you sorely lack, you little lazy piece of shit. - Oh, Mr. Rockwell, my name is Sandy Clarkson, I'm the deputy regional head of environmental security for the drilling facility up here in 79 North Least. - Yes, Sandy, I don't know where you're from. Hey, man, buddy. - I didn't think you'd remember me. - Oh, of course I do, Sandy Clarkson. You're the man with five foot crack. We spoke five months ago. - That was two weeks ago. - Sandy, I'm glad you brought it up. 'Cause I've been thinking about your five foot crack for a while now, here's my ticket. Glacier over there in Greenland, it shifts five feet. Now, this desk in front of me is bigger than five feet. - Mr. Rockwell. - My dick is a tenth of that. So when you want me to do, Sandy, shut down a billion dollar platform over something, it's 10 times the size of my dick. - Bang, bang, bang. (laughing) - Digger coming out, October 2nd, make sure you guys go and see it in theaters. - Oh, no. - It is such a relevant story to what we got going on in the world today. You got power, greed, freedom. - Yeah. - You know what, and this story is as old as time, because you can have power at, you know, we're talking about the school yard, at any echelon of life. There's this, these characters play in it. Just, it is about that, it is about, it is modern, but it is ancient in terms of its exploration and ex-bozé of human behavior in a very humorous and emotional way. And it is immediate, it is absurd, it is present, people can relate it to their own lives. And the best way, man, it's so good. Excited as hell for all you guys, they experienced it as well. - Thank you for having me. Thank you for hosting me last night. - Come on, man. - For hosting me today, for Sharon, for Sharon, your family and your lives, it's awesome. - You're the best, man. - It kicks off this, kicks off this towards beautiful. - Come on, baby. You're the best, man. - It is our pleasure to say the least. - And that's awesome. - Oh, dude. (audience applauding) - I mean, he's just the coolest guy in the world. - Yeah, I mean, well, not even as you're the coolest, but he's genuinely the most interested person in like whatever you're talking about. - Yeah. - I could sit there and talk to Tom for ever, because he loves just like conversing and taking information, like you talked about all interview, like he really enjoys finding out why people do things, how they do things. He's just a genuinely fun person to be around. - He is, man. - Thank you so much for coming on the show, Tom. You killed it. Again, we've said it about 18,000 times. Check out Dinger, you're gonna love it. - You're gonna love it. - It's gonna make your cry, it's gonna get laughed. You're gonna be very viscerally affected by some of the best damn acting you've ever seen in your fucking life. - I concur with what he just said. - And that doesn't for new heights. A wonder show brought to you by Nissan. 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