Tom & Bert's Brutally Honest Odyssey Review | 2 Bears, 1 Cave

- 100% - [laughs] - Brand new two bears, one cave, after almost eight weeks apart, Tom and I are back. - Back. - And it is safe to say a lot has happened in those eight weeks for myself, which we will ignore at this point. 'Cause I'm curious, Tom, I say I don't read comments, but I've been all in the comments. I can't help it. The internet is fucking divided. And I would just like to hear it from you. Just set the record straight. Have you seen the Odyssey? - I have not. But I, here's the thing. I have attempted to. I was in London and then I was in D.C., and I was, I had my show days and then I had off days. I tried to buy-- - You did shows in London? - I did spots in London. I did shows in Baltimore and D.C. - I saw that. Did you meet up with Tony Woods? - No, and they were like, he's here. I was like, great, send him back. Never came back. But in D.C., I tried buying tickets five days out, which I was like, that's plenty of time, sold out. And I mean, I checked like four or five theaters in the area. Everything was sold out. - Let me tell you. - The daytime shows. I've seen this one. - You see an iMacs? - I saw it in an iMacs. I saw it in a regular movie theater. I have a lot of notes. - But you thought you should let Nolan know. - I have access to Nolan. My buddy produced the movie. - He produced the Odyssey? - The Odyssey, yeah. - And when you say I have access, are you thinking of maybe crafting an email and sending it to him? - No, no, no, no, no. I have to say, I genuinely liked the movie. - Good. - I genuinely liked the movie. Okay, now, here we go, Elliott Page. That's the big, what everyone wants to know. Not distracting, in my opinion. I thought Elliott Page is, first of all, a great actor. Always has been, everything Elliott has done in Elliott's career has been fucking phenomenal. - Great actor. - Such a great actor. - You were bothered, I remember, when the trailer came out, you were like, I cannot believe they have a black woman as Helen Detroit. - How did you feel? - I was outraged. - I was outraged, yes, I remember. I remember. - No, I gotta, can I tell you, I think that's the best casting they've ever done? - Really? - And I'll tell you why. - Yeah, I'll tell you why. Helen Troy's such an important character in that story that, and I don't mean to sound whatever, but if they had just cast a regular white. - That white, yeah. - You would have never, stood out. - Would you just would have been like, huh? - I know, whoever starred in anything with Adam Sandler, all those women, it would have been like, oh, that's Helen Troy, yeah, she'll be, we'll never hear from her again, you know, you needed a name, now here's the thing, you needed a name, and the fact that it was Lupita and Lupita, I think, by the way, for the record, if I'm going black, that's the direction I'm going. - Again, she will be thrilled to hear this. - By the way, I have access to Lupita. - You have access to her. - I have access to Lupita. - Through the same producer or something. - Of the trainer, yeah, I mean, by the way, you could slip another dark, dark dark dark dark. Are we describing her? Oh, I love dark. I love, oh my God, she is absolutely fucking gorgeous. And gorgeous in that movie, and so kind of stands out in that cast, the eye kind of went, oh, that's Helen of Troy. I didn't go like, oh, Helen of Troy is black. Now listen, listen, I'm going to tell you something, okay? Very clearly, and I apologize if this is going to sound about woke, but I get distracted sometimes when I watch stay a little house on the prairie, and they have a black doctor in the 1700s that I'm like, hold on, are we not going to address them back? - Takes you out of the scene, yeah. - Oh, we kind of, like when I watch the remake of Grease, they don't TV, and they have just white kids and black kids at school together in the fucking 40s, and I'm like, hold on, where's the firehoses? Where's the German shepherds? Like, I go, like, I get this, I do, if it fucks with the story, I get caught up, I was, listen, I want to say this, and I was fucking famous for this, and I got shit, fucking seven years go, Tom, I got shit on for this, and I'm right. I also, okay, these are bad takes, these are not my greatest takes, but I would get distracted when they'd hire British black people to play American black people. It bothered me. - It bothered you. - Like, Idris Elba. - Yeah, Idris always plays like Idris, right? - No, but I mean, in the wire, he was famous for, you know, he was, I didn't see that one. - But, you didn't see the wire? - No, I saw bits and parts, but I didn't, it never, yeah, I didn't, it's whatever. He's gorgeous, he's great, he's great, right? - Yeah. - Now, I gotta tell you, and I don't, I get, he's an actor, you're allowed to do a couple regular American black rolls. - Yep, but I want you with the accent. I want you with the accent. - Well, he nailed it in that. He nailed it in the wire. That's the thing is, most people didn't know it was a British actor at the time. - Yeah. Oh, and so, when you watch, when you watch the, - Stranger Bell. - A British actor. - That's the character. - And then Drew's, they did it. - Right, yeah. - Drew's, he did it. - Yes. - And everyone was like, yeah, that is fucking egregious. And then I was like, I was like, I said this on two bears and got lit up in the comments. - Yeah, and you also were like, we should, you said like, what was it, you said, you said like, we should flatten Palestine. And everybody was like, all of your, you said that. I remember. And then now there's a lot of people that are with you. Keep going. But my point being is, I don't mind like when, I don't mind, I don't get distracted by crazy diversity casting. I do get upset when they didn't let Scarlett Johansson play a trans male. I was like, I was like, but she's an actress. But then all of a sudden I'm like, yeah, but I need an American black to play an American black guy. - Yeah. - I like, I don't want to be like, all right. - How does this track back to Hell in Detroit? - I liked her. - Oh, you just liked her. I liked her. I liked her. - Now I know you have a comment on this. - What? - How much were you just like licking your lips over Matt Damon's body? Were you into it? That feels like you really have a, - I thought I was looking at a mirror. - He's good. - I look exactly like that. - Yeah. - Or like twins. - That's what I said. - I liked Matt Damon. I can't, I tell you what also didn't distract me. I think this is a part of me growing up. The fact that they all had different white accents. (laughs) - Oh. - No one had, like I usually-- - Consistent. - I watch a period of peace like this. I need everyone to have this similar-- - They're all religious? - Yeah. - It's like when, when, when fucking Brad Pitt was like, the guy, the kid says when he played Achilles. And he's like, are you scared? And then Brad Pitt, who by the way, pulls off, I don't know what actually goes. That's who's why they will never remember you. And you're like, what accent is that? But at least he was trying, you know? Matt Damon's got a straight up Boston accent. - In the movie? - In the movie, he's got a hint of Boston. - Hint of? - Is he supposed to be doing British things? - He's like, wrote about your pecads. - Is he speaking in a British accent throughout? - No, he speaks regular Matt Damon. - Oh, just Matt, okay. - And then, and then John Barrenthal, my favorite napper. - He is regular John Barrenthal in there. - Is it Barrenthal? Is it Barrenthal? - No, it's Barrenthal. - It is? It's Barrenthal. - Barrenthal. - It's not Barrenthal. - It's Barrenthal. - You can't keep saying it's Barrenthal when we see that it's not. John Barrenthal. - Wait, you're, we see what it is. - John Barrenthal got, was he doing some play or something with another guy from the bear? And I think it was like the odd couple or something. And the, and his guy called him napping and he posted it. And I fucking put it in my stories and shout out to Johnny B. - Yeah. - He fucking saw it. I tagged him and he saw it. - He saw it. - He knows what it is. - He knows it. - He knows about game respects game. I think he probably looks at my acting and he's like, he's like, I wish I could get there. - Yeah, you're napping his legendary. - Yeah. - Look, he's napping all the time. - I got nothing against you if you napping. I feel like you probably do have something better to do than napping, but I'm sorry. - Yeah. - But he's napping. - I don't trust people who take napsi. That's napping. He's straight up taking a nap. - Yeah, he's a full, full blow napper. Anyway, the, the, but yeah. So the honesty was great. I say great. I, now listen, now hold on. And this is what I want to say to you. And I'm just putting this out there as an, as something you guys can find about in the comments or we can, or you're listening, you can argue with you and us in your head. - Is it that no one goes to the movies? - No. - I feel like people are showing up for the Odyssey because it's like finally mom cooked a good dinner, you know? - Yes, I mean, this has been an amazing year for the box office. Like what we've seen is everybody was talking about, movies are done, movies are done. And it was like the only thing that was doing well was franchises and like superhero stuff. And everyone was like, that's what the theater is for now. It was like kind of a bummer for a lot of people. And so this is your, this is your big ticket one that has really panned out. Like it was a $250 million movie. It's like over 700 million right now. And it's going to project it to do like 1.3 billion, which is phenomenal. - Hey, let's just be clear. - Yeah, their budget was like, I think the budget is like a billion dollars. - No, it's, it's a lot, but it's not a lot. - It's not a billion. But, dude, pull the fucking. Harvey Kormack, what's the kid's name? Harvey Kormack, who did obsession? - Curry Barker. - Harvey Barker. Harvey Barker. Curry Barker. Curry Barker, who did obsession? That was made for-- - That was made for $50,000. - $750,000, yeah. - And by the way, if I talk to a man-to-man, I'd nudge him and go, I caught the 750 a couple of times. - Well, yeah, I mean, he did what he-- - I was like, I watched it, the movie's incredible. The kids are fucking genius. - Yeah, he's a comedy guy, too. - But he's a comedy guy. - But like, at a billion dollars, I nudge him. (laughing) - Oh, before I forget, before I forget. We're gonna be at McDill Air Force Base. 13th fourth thing, we're doing a meet and greet. August 14th at 11am, at the McDill Exchange with bottle signing, we're doing a meet and greet with our servicemen and women, just to say hi, to say thank you, just to, it's great to be in that environment. It's been super fun in the past, so we're doing it again. McDill Air Force Base, and we will be at the exchange. August 14th at 11am, Bert and I, together. - And by the way, if McDill Air Force Base wants to throw in a workout, I'm ready to work out with the boys. - Okay, good, that's good. - I saw project, Hail Mary. - Yeah, it's great. - I only saw the first, up until he meets Chunky or whatever. Chunky, I was on a plane. - Oh, it's great. - By the way, I tried to read the book, the book, and like, okay, obviously, if you wrote the book and you're watching our podcast, which I doubt, very highly Andy Weir, I just wanna say that like, I'm not a reader, I tried to read the books, everyone said how great the book was. The movie did such a better job of cutting to the chase. - It's great, I thought the movie, I was so surprised. I just heard, everyone's saying it was good, and I was like, all right, I was really impressed with it. I thought, I'm halfway through. I gotta watch the rest tonight. - But like, Lian and I got the audiobooks, we were gonna do a road trip. - Yeah. - And I was like, project, Hail Mary is really great. Four hours into the road trip, he still hasn't figured out who he is or what he's doing into the audiobook. And then Lian looks, it's a 15 hour audiobook. We're like, we don't have time for this shit. - You gave it four hours though? - Okay, four hours and he's still like, two plus two. Who are the dead people? - Is it the same voice in the audiobook? One voice, does it all? - Yeah. - It is, okay. - What's only one person in the whole fucking movie? - Well, I don't know, I didn't know how it, I mean, there's more people in the movie, actually. - Yeah, yeah, yeah, but technically, I read the book. Like a year ago, I started reading the book. And I'm like, I tried to read the book. I got like 50 pages in and it's just one dude talking to himself and I'm like, I can't just sit and listen to one dude talking to himself. - Why, that's what you would do. - All right, dude, don't think I didn't put myself in that movie about how fucking what I would do. Fight Night is here and DraftKings has you covered. The DraftKings Sports app is now available in all 50 states. 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Advisor view important disclosure at acorns.com/bearers. What kind of shoes do you have on? Ooh, thank you very much. These are sabba. Yeah, I told you I knew what they were. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How do you know? So we got into a fight. We got into a fight, Leanne, not a fight, not a fight. An argument. We got into a disagreement about. I started wanting to wear a billionaire shoes. Okay. 'Cause I feel like, I feel like my wardrobe is arrested. Like my wardrobe is-- You've mentioned this before, by the way. You've mentioned this several times that you think you dress like a juvenile. I dress like a juvenile. I wear the same jeans, the same shirts, I wear the same hats, I wear flip-flops. By the way, the flip-flops I have right now are the best flip-flops. I got to give a shout out to these. Harry, Marie, Harry, Marie, Harry, Marie. I don't know how to say them. I wish they had a different name. They're the best fucking flip-flops I've ever owned. They're the Nikona flip-flops. And I have like eight pairs. I love them. But I can't wear flip-flops everywhere. It's fun to go out to eat and stuff. And so I bought these in Atlanta at the fourth. And Leanne was mocking them. And he'll come. 'Cause she goes, you look like you're trying to be a rich guy. In those? These are rich guys shoes. Are they? A hundred percent. I saw, he said how I know about them. I saw a thing online about Sabas. And just that the people who have them, it has like a cult following. Like they keep them for like a decade. They're comfortable, a shit. They remind me of Tom's. I loved Tom's. Like great walk around shoes, right? Yeah, they're really comfortable. And I really enjoy them and they're nice leather. Yeah. And I bought them as a joke 'cause I put them on and I flew home. And then I walked into the house with them on. Yesterday, I just got home from Atlanta yesterday. And I walked home in these and Leanne goes, "George and I were like, I like your shoes." And I was like, "Do not tell mom." And she was like, "And then Leanne's like, "You bought those stupid things." You look like a trying to be a rich guy? Yeah, well, 'cause I went through this phase. We went to Naples. Are they sweaty? Are they sweaty shoes? No, no, no, they're absolutely perfect. Really? Okay, what was your phase you went through? Riches? I was at, we were in Naples and we were at a really nice resort for my birthday this past year. It's when I started using Manjaro. So, we got started using Manjaro. What is the, he hit the one that says, "Why are rich guys obsessed with the, and you far left?" Oh, I'm sorry, the one with shoes on it. I thought, is it the same article? Oh yeah, it is. Okay. So, I was, I went to dinner one night and I had Nike SB dunks on 'cause that's the only shoe I had. Yeah. And I looked around and there's a really nice resort and I just kind of stuck out and I was like, what's everyone else wearing? And everyone else had, like, it looked like the shoes you'd buy in a gift shop, right? Mm-hmm. Like, you know, like how rich people kind of just shop at the resort they're in? Sure. And then they wear that. And I was like, well, shit, maybe I'm gonna step up my game [BLANK_AUDIO] looking, that's where I learned about ones. And now they're my favorite running shoe. - Yeah, those are great. - So that's the number one billionaire rich shoe is the on. - They like those, okay. - It's the one you're not supposed to tie. You just slide on every billionaire, pull it up, every billionaire wears ones. - Okay. - And I went into an on store after I learned this, and I was like, how are your shoes for, how are you running shoes? I do like running, and I ended up buying, I ended up jogging in ones. I love running in these shoes. Can I have the carbon fiber plate, the cheat shoes? So I'm running crazy right now. - Let's not even talk about fitness and drinking. That is, that is a fucking totally different podcast. But, but I love running in these, but I learned about ones because billionaires, type in billionaire on, 'cause that's their shoe, that's the shoe they wear. And then there's like a, there's top 10 shoes, billionaires wear. And so I started, this top five billionaires shoes worn. - Let me see, let me see, let me see. Oh my God, I think I saw this article. - Oh, it's on TikTok. - It's not an article. - Yeah. - Okay. - I love when I tell people I read a book and they're like, I saw that on TikTok also. - There he is. - These are the top five shoes billionaires are wearing this fall. Number one, the Laura Piotta summer walk, the billionaires default setting, soft, sweet, hand stitched, and silent on marble. You don't buy these shoes. - That's the thing you wear. - You buy them to disappear in the right crowd. Number two, the on cloud fives. Piotta owner goes for a walk. - There you go. - The billionaires and retired hedge fund guys, they're all rocking these. - That's the one. - Apparently is a power move. Number three, the Zanya triple stitch. For the man who still takes calls and vacation, butter softwares. - What do I have on right now? - Are you fucking serious? - Yes. - Are you serious? - Yeah. - Next to a phone that never rings. Number four, the Todd's Camino loafers. Every Italian billionaire wants a pair or five. Pebbled souls. - See, I want to look like that guy. - You want to look like him? - I want to do all day shit. - A little bit lower. Old money, energy, polished leather, gold paint. - No noise. - The loafers. - No, it's a bloodline. So which one of these? - You got the perfect, you transitioned from SB dunks to the on's, which is great. And you have your sabas now. This is good. - So wait, is it more than just shoes or you're trying to change your whole appearance? - I have, I've actually, I've actually reassessed a lot of things in my life. Like you're talking like you're, like, look. - The hat seems pretty, you know, up elevated. - Yeah, but I've always worn hats. This is-- - Yeah, but sometimes you were based, that looks more elevated than a baseball cap. - Yeah, I bought, I bought a couple of the LBJ Stetsons. I want to say documentary on LBJ and he was kind of a fucking badass. - Yeah. - And he had a certain Stets in he wore. So I bought like all his Stetsons. And then, 'cause you know, I kind of get into like a celebrity and then like an older celebrity, like a historical figure and then deep dive their shit. I've been, I mean, no one's gonna like this conversation, but I kind of have gotten into, I'm not even gonna say it's so fucking arrogant. But yeah, like I think it's minimalist. Like I'm trying to go more minimal for me to be more grounded. - Okay. - So like I'm not trying to go as fancy as I, I think I would buy fancy things like watches or somewhat jewelry to make me feel better about myself. And then I realize that doesn't make you feel better, you should feel better by yourself. This is all going through all sobriety. sobriety really fucked me up. - Are you drinking again? - No, and so, no and yes. I mean, yes, like a regular person, but no like Bert. And so, so I can have a couple of glasses of champagne. I can have a glass of porosos. If I can't drink, like I used to, I, it, I fucks me up. I don't know. - But is that, but you're still on medication? - I'm still on medication, but I don't know if that's it, 'cause everyone drinks on blood thinners. I didn't drink for seven months on blood thinners because I wanted the medicine to work. And then at a certain point, the doctor's like, you know, blood blood cut's gone. You know, if you wanna have a drink, you can have a drink. So I've been pushing through trying to get to drinking, but I've also embraced not drinking a lot and, and not drinking on like a Monday night is like a crazy new thing. - Really? - Yeah. - Yeah, but you know, you know, sober people die too. - Right. - Like sober people die just as much as drunk people. - You feel like an insect to die sober. - Well no, it just, it's like, I, I've had real anxiety about health. I, okay, I'm unpacking a little bit and I'm not gonna unpack a ton. So I didn't realize how traumatic the blood clot getting into my lungs and in my leg. And I didn't understand how traumatic that really was for me. I think I just got through it. And I launched, you know, free bird. I had the special launch, I think, or maybe I don't know. I feel like I had a lot going on over the last seven months. And I also was focusing on not drinking or smoking weed. And then when all of that kind of calmed down, I dealt with the fact that I went through a really scary thing and I had face mortality for the first time in my life. And, and then out of nowhere this last month, I've had really crazy anxiety attacks and crazy anxiety attacks without drinking are terrifying 'cause you don't have an out. Like you just got to deal with it and sit in them. And, and I, and I was angry. I was angry at sobriety 'cause I was like, this is stupid. If this is what sobriety is, I'm fucking done. Like this is not what I signed up for. If I'm not, I'm not saying like sober sober, but like not drinking 12 days and then maybe having a glass of champagne at dinner. That's what I was doing. And so wouldn't drink maybe 14 days and then have a couple of glasses of or like a beer at dinner. And then Coddy called me and she was like, stop with all of this and just go back to drinking. Like just like, just go back to being regular. Like this is not. Like Tom, I got so in the weeds that like Leanne could not, she was like, I can't talk about this anymore. Like I was, I was like, at what point? This is seven months in. Oh, you mean, so recently. Very recently, this last month. Talking about you. Just about anxiety and about, and about health. Like I got really crazy about working out because when you're sober, and by the way, I'm not like sober, but for me it's sober, right? Like for anyone else, it's like regular for you. Me just regular Tom. But for me, it's very sober drinking very minimally. And my happy place became the gym. And my serotonin dump of working out became my joy. And when that would run out, I would be like, so then what's left in life? And if this is all you get is the best part of the day is at five in the morning when you crush chest and tries, get on the treadmill, run four miles in 39 minutes 'cause you're trying to beat your time. And then I got so neurotic about it. I was like, I don't know who I am. I don't know what I'm doing. And also I was really stressed 'cause we were shooting the show. And I wanted to be present for the show and I wanted to be the best. I didn't want to get hammered during production, but I'll tell you what, I haven't gotten hammered for every production I've ever done. - Yeah. - And I loved it. I was like, everything was joyful. So I don't know, I'm dealing with a lot. I'm trying to figure out, I'm trying to figure out like some sort of middle ground, but like I just, I can't. - You mean, and you don't think the continued sobriety we're doing is like just for the how you feel about it is fine? - So like I know it's not bad. I know it's good for me. So I'm doing it 'cause I know it's not bad. But there has to be a middle ground. And I think I've gotten very tea-totally where like when I'm in drinking mode, my favorite thing is the spontaneity and how life just kind of moves and is fluid and anything can happen. - Yeah. - And I go, oh this is gonna be a fun fucking day. We're getting after it. And then when I'm sober, I end up becoming very neurotic about alcohol, like I end up going like, like I look at it nice. Like, um, and that's what's exhausting, like for Leanda here. - Yeah, 'cause I go, she's like, let's, let's get on, have dinner and I go great. And then they go, can we get somebody to drink? And Leanda's like, I'll help you champagne. She goes, "Burt," and I go, "No." - You're talking the same stuff that like other people who go sober, say, it's exactly the same. - I definitely have a lot to work on internally. So we're doubling up on therapy right now to try to figure out what is going on with me 'cause here's a deal. I will not quit drinking. 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I think that'd be bad. I mean, I can create, I had no joke within one month, I had 12 confirmed deadly illnesses. What? Oh yeah. What are you talking about? I believed I had 12, no less than 12 terminal diseases, terminal diseases in a month, in one month. Yeah, that sounds exhausting to deal with. In one month, I had skin cancer twice, I had blood clots again. I got them every time every three time in my head. I had, I had a mini stroke, I had a heat stroke, I had a style that was confirmed. I have, I've gone septic, septic, was it called? Uh-huh. Yeah. I'm pretty, pretty sure I've got some internal problems. I'm not like, but I would just, Tom, I mean, get on those meds, dude, get on those meds, excuse me. Can I tell you, can I tell you what I say? Tell me what? I wasn't like this when I was drinking. I think this is the therapy's good and so is the potential meds. I will be drinking, like Tampa, in a dill air force pace. I will be and you will too. I will. Yes, I will. Yes. And we will. I love me. I love this. That would be the first time ever. I would love to dabble with weed a little bit, but I'm terrified. I'm terrified with my brain. I can't trust my brain. Yeah. My brain is like this fucking asshole who did not never like me, but he stayed close to my family so he can fuck with me. Okay, so Jesus Christ, I see what she's going through. Hey, let's get back to, can we just, I want to talk about Harvey Kormack, yeah, because I saw, go ahead, have you seen obsession? I have. I've seen it twice. I have. I have. Yes. And I, I really like it. I really like it a lot. I, I think I mentioned why one of the reasons I like it so much is that story wise, one of the things you'll, you always hear this when you talk to any writer, you'll hear it from producers who are looking for movies. And I think it's a great thing for somebody who's out there who's like, I want to make a movie, I want to, is that this guy's, forget like the ups and downs and the twists and turns of it, but the story is so clear. So this is kind of a spoiler alert, right? So I'm giving you a spoiler alert for those of you who had not just seen it. So don't get mad. But frame one of the film, frame one, you understand that this guy really likes this girl. He's rehearsing for what he wants to tell her. And you set up that, you know, his friend's like, dude, this is embarrassing, like he's like, he's like, I, but I want to tell you once he wants to tell his friend. Really the next, in the next couple scenes, you understand that like, everything is like how he feels about this girl. Then you're at a bar again. I already give you a spoiler alert, you're at a bar where he's with the girl and his friend and somebody else. And he's like nervous to be a runner because he wants to tell her how he feels, right? And then this is probably like within the first 10 minutes of the film, the turning point of like why it's called obsession happens and then you're on the ride. So just from like a storytelling point of view, everything is very clear. I think it's one of the reasons it's done well worldwide is that everybody can relate to this story. You like somebody a lot. And then the fact that like the hook is the hook of it is also very easy to understand. A lot of times you watch movies and whether you're five, ten, thirty minutes into the movie, you're like, what is happening and what is the story? What's happening in this movie? And you could feel any way about this movie, but you can't feel like the story isn't clear. Like the clarity of the story is something to really think about when you want to tell stories. You understand what is happening from the minute this movie starts and you understand the ride you're on 10 minutes in. It's very clear. That's one of the things about the movie that I think lends itself to its success. Of course there's a psychological twisted movie that like has all these, you know, twists and turns I guess you could say that that come from what happens, but it's very, very clear what you're watching. It's very, the story is very clear. It's shot beautifully. Beautifully. For that budget too. It looks great man. Yeah. It's shot beautifully and it is the actors are really great. They're great. I think I thought it was real. It was really great. It was cats very well. That young lady who plays the fucking. The girl, the main girl. I mean, there's a moment big time spoiler alert, standard closer years, when she says kill me. Yes. Yes. It was like, whoa. Yeah. She's asleep right now. Oh my God. That was fucking. It was great. Now here's the question. Okay. So like a blast off hit. Everyone loved it. I think in part also the young generation likes it because they haven't said you want your thing to rally around like you don't, you don't want to like your parents movies. You know, you want your thing. Yeah. You want to have your own. Yeah. And this is their TikTok movie. TikTok star. He did their thing. It's the same thing as the other guy who did Iron Long. Like he did it. Iron Long. Apparently even. Iron Long. Yeah. So there's three movies that came out. Backdoors or something or trick doors, slap doors, back doors, the back doors, Iron Long and this room is at the back rooms one is back rooms, back rooms, back rooms. What's it called? Back rooms, casting couch. I think. Yeah, back rooms. Right. And that and Iron Long and those movies have done great because they've, they've gathered. You know, a lot like a few in David Spades did is they gather a fan base that loves them already and get them to the theaters. Yeah. I mean, I don't think what's the back rooms guy had a huge YouTube following. I know that. That was a big YouTube. For back rooms. Yes. And this guy, Iron Long guy was a streamer and he had a huge following. Was this, is Iron Long the one where he had them follow along like his whole path of making the movie? I don't think so. I think he did. I want to say he did. Yeah. So he previously played on his YouTube channel, stated that it would be self-written, self-finance, star himself. And he, he brought them along on that, on that journey of like, I'm going to be making this movie. Now here's my question. Tell me. What is a movie that you saw that you knew nothing about, that you said, because I have a couple versions. I have the morons version. Yeah. And then I have a version you haven't heard of and then I have the version you've heard of. Right? I don't know what you mean. Like a sleeper movie that was like, came from out of nowhere. You watch and you sat up and you're like, that's one of the greatest movies I've ever fucking seen. Oh Jesus. Like what I was saying, that about a session. Well, yeah. I know what you mean that like, this came out of nowhere. Well, there was the one, the, that was so crazy years ago where it was supposed to be a handheld camera. Oh, but same, same on which trials. Yeah. Was that was it called? Blair Witch. Blair Witch. Blair Witch. Blair Witch was one where that it was like, have you heard of this? Have you seen this? Yeah. That was 99. For those of you that haven't seen it, it was like, you know, the whole thing was the Like, it was supposed to be, like, the audience feels like they're watching handheld footage. Yeah, found footage exactly right? It was the first found footage movie, I think. I don't know if that's true or not, but it was a huge surprise success, right? It was, can I come out and say that I thought the movie was I. Like, when I watched it, I was like, there's one terrifying part, but I was like, it's I. Okay. I said that I, you said that I, yeah. Yeah, can I tell you a movie that's even better than that? Then I said you haven't seen and I think is, I walked out of a movie theater and I was like, this is one of the greatest movies I've ever seen in my entire life. What's that? Run, Lola, Run. Oh, I've seen that. How great is that? That's a great movie. Yeah, it's great. Fucking incredible. There's also, what was the one? Hannah? That was, was that what it was called? Oh, you talked about the little girl. Yeah, that was great. Fucking awesome. That was great. I don't think that's, I don't know if that's, I mean, I guess it's kind of a sleeper when it came out. That was really good. Can I tell you one's great? Can I tell you the moron choice? Yeah. This is the greatest movie I've ever seen. Okay. That as I say it, everyone's going to go, are you serious? Mm-hmm. The butterfly effect. That's your favorite movie? That movie fucked me up for like a week. I love time travel. I love asking questions. And why I'm thinking of a different movie. Is that the one that the kid wrote it and directed it and self-financed it and got asked in Couture 'cause there were boys to do it. And I want to see what did the budget had to be low. But that was the one that like came out and everyone was like, oh, this is going to be-- 13 million. Oh, that's not the low budget. In '04, yeah, that's not that low. 17. How is thinking of something else with a similar name for the guys in a wheelchair the whole time? That's butterfly effect. No. You know, no, he's in a wheelchair. He has no arms and no hands. Really? Yeah, he's, yeah. It's so good. And it's super depressing? No. Yes, it is. I was thinking, no, there's something another one though where a guy's in a wheelchair. It wasn't a famous act. It wasn't fashion, Couture. Let's go into paralyzed movies. So go into movies, name movies that you saw, that you knew nothing about, that you sat down and you witnessed and you went holy shit. Now, I'm going to tell you the first one I ever saw. I knew nothing about this movie. I'm 11 years old. I'm maybe 12. The karate kid. Oh, spies like us. I didn't know it. Oh, and it was a fuck. You know, which one fucked me up, my fucking friend? It was like, he got it. All he says is you got to go see this movie. And I like that when they're like, you don't know anything. And I went to see Primal Fear. Oh, Edward Norton? Yeah, and here's my fucking asshole friend Steve did. He sits next to me. We're watching this whole movie. I don't know anything about the movie. And I'm into it. And then you know the big twist in this movie, right? I mean, it's been-- He's gagging. No, it's the twist is that the Edward Norton character is playing like a moron, right? He's actually the doctor. He's actually the sadistic psychopath who knows what he's doing. He's pretending to be dumb. Such every one of those dumb. Every one of those is the best. This guy does. We're watching the movie. Steve got me to go to the movie, sitting next to me. He's already seen it. And I'm watching the movie. And as it's about to be revealed, he's like, dude, you're not even going to believe what's about to happen, right? I go, what the fuck are you doing? He's like, this is so fucking crazy. What's about to happen? And I'm like, bro, you're taking the air out of this right now. So I get-- I'm watching it. And then instead of discovering it, he's in my ear going. How fucking crazy is this? I'm like, shut the fuck up. Wait, I've got the-- I know I've told you this, but I'm going to say it again. This is my favorite movie going experience. I'm 26 years old. And six cents comes out. Oh, that was another one. That was another one. I go on a date to 27th Street and park Avenue or something. I go on a date. It's a sold out movie theater. So we're sitting next to people. And I'm sitting next to a black dude with dreadlocks. It's roughly my same age. And me and this black dude get that he's dead at the exact same moment. Earlier than everyone else? No, no, no, we got it later. I think everything else. So we got to wait later. And it started with the black guy goes, he's like, he's like, oh shit. Oh shit, she's cheating on him. And I was like, she's cheating on him. He's like, that's why she didn't have his wedding ring on. And he goes, wait, he didn't have his wedding ring on. I go, he's cheating on her. And he's like, no, no, his stomach. He's, oh my God, I go, wait, no. And he goes, I think. And I was like, is he me and this black guy, I never met this guy. Yeah. We figured it out at the exact same moment. We shared that moment. And then we left the theater and we sat on the corner of the street, breaking down the movie together. We had never met each other. We didn't know each other. We were both on dates. And then he said to me, what are you doing now? Do you want to keep talking about this? Go have a drink? And I was like, I would love that. And his girl was like, bitch, we're on a date. And he was like, oh, I got to go, man. I got to go. I remember this, it was again, that was around the time too, where people were like, you just got to go see this movie. I remember also, not that this was like a sleeper hit, but I didn't know what I was going to see with Pulp Fiction. You know what I mean? It was just like, people were like, you got to go see this movie. So the experience of like, I don't know what this movie is, it was this '93, I think. Yeah. I didn't even-- Ernie House. So yeah, I was just like, I mean, I'm whatever, I'm like 14 when this movie comes out. Oh my God. And yeah, and I go to the theater, and I was just like, you know, you know what it is, but that experience of like, there's nothing like this was fucking amazing. Yeah, that was amazing. Usual suspects. Another one. Another way. Usual suspects. What is the best? What is that called? Like, what is that, like a reveal movie? Yeah, I mean, usually thrillers, you know, the thriller usually like, like that's under the idea of a thriller is that there will be some, some twist or turn, yeah. Well, I want to know the ones that were really bad, where the, where like halfway through you're like, I'm pretty sure it's him. Have you seen the prestige? Oh, that's another Christopher Nolan movie. It is, yeah. Yeah. Fuck. Yes. That's great. Like the Skullar brothers, they should do a prestige. What do you mean? I don't know. Okay. That's a great fucking movie. Okay. What is this? The best twist ending movies? Yes. Oh, I love it. Oh, wait, American Beauty. Okay, keep going. Usual suspects. Memento. I saw Memento in the movie theater. Yes. In the movie theater in LA. No, nothing about it. And I was like, shot. What a great fucking movie. By the way, can I just say this, and I'm just putting this out there. The average 22-year-old, the average person that went to obsession, hasn't seen any of these movies. You're probably right. At least a lot have not. Memento for everything said about what Christopher Nolan's done over the last 10 to 15 years. If you have never seen Memento, you're in for a treat, man. That is such a brilliant movie. God bless you. God bless you. God bless you. God bless you. God bless you. You saw a fight club. But in the, in this, what is it, the Aramadome, you know, the one on Sonoramadome. Sonoramadome. Yeah. Yeah. Sonoramadome. Yeah. Sonoramadome. Yeah. Sonoramadome. Yeah. I'm not going to say that. getting their entertainment and different, like direct to market stuff is a huge thing. I want to keep going through this list. - Oh yes. - Those were dogs. - Birdman. We got, once upon a time in Hollywood, wild tales. Oh, is that the Argentine one? Is that what wild tales is? - Which wild tales? - Yes. Dude, this is great. - What is it? I've never seen it. I'll watch it tonight. - Six short movies in a movie that have great twists. - It's fucking great. - I don't know. I know nothing. - I won't tell you anymore. - Wild tales. - Wild tales. - It's really good. - I would suggest everyone watching go watch wild tales and we'll all watch it and we'll talk about it the next time we come back. Keep going. - It's really good, man. Wild tales. I'm watching it tonight. - It's really good. The imposter. - What's that? - What's that? - What's that? - Oh. - Oh. - I don't remember this one. - What's this? - I don't know if I've seen that. That's one to watch. All right. - The imposter. I want to. Someone grabbed this list. I'm going to go through a watchies. Can I tell you one of the best time travel movies? Shutter Island. Holy shit. Shutter Island. - Primal fear. Shut out to Steve. - Primal fear. Beautiful mind. - Beautiful mind. That was a great one. - That was a great one. - Yep. Identification. - Is it remembers where they were? The kid or something, right? - Yes. Part of the story. - That was a mind fuck. That was an awesome experience. That was another one that I saw in theaters. It was that age where it was like, yeah, let's go to the movies. And you go and you see that and you're like, holy shit. That one was so fucked up. That's such a fucked up ride. Especially the first time you see that. You're not ready for it. - Hold on. - Don't look it up. Just see it. - How about old boy? - Yeah. It's on the list too. - Holy fuck. - Yeah. - That was a crazy. When I make an argument, I want to plant this seed. So when I watch, kiss me deadly. The departed was fucking great. - Yes. - The departed was so great. Inception. I have not seen inception. - You've never seen inception? - I've never seen inception. I might watch inception tonight. - You're definitely going to be like, the fuck is going on. - For real? - It takes a few, I think a few viewings to even wrap it up. Will you send me, Zolo, will you send me this list? - Yeah. - This is crazy. Can I make, can I put it out in argument, Leanne, and I were arguing over this today? - Yeah. - Okay. Now I'm going to start with, I think the reason there's so many comics, and by the way, so many very good comics. I mean, there are more good comics right now than there's ever been in history. There's people that I've never heard of that I see online that write great jokes, great jokes. And I think the reason there's so much great comedy is that comedy's way more accessible for everyone. I think people can watch great comedy, and when you watch great comedy, you can find your voice quicker. And I think my generation, and I'll incorporate you in that, and like the Jim Norton, Bobby Kelly, me, you, Pete Corielli, Godfrey, you know, Joe Rogan, not Shane, not Tim, they're younger, they're too young. - Okay. - My generation, we kind of came by comedy, like it was almost like a real lunch-pale way to come by comedy, and I don't mean that like, you know, but like, you had to find your sense of humor through your friends, and you usually got your sense of humor, like at a job or at a lunch table, or watching movies with your boys. And I think this generation, and I'll include Shane McCusker, who I think are just so wildly fucking hysterical, but like that generation, I think they're the top limit of it. They were the first of the meme culture, where comedy was on their phones at a young age, and they could read comments at a young age, and go through comments sections and laugh hysterically, and kind of see how comedy was workshopped and done, whereas my generation, Joe's generation, or that older generation, we didn't have that, like comedy was a weird thing, like not everyone was funny when we were kids. Like now, everyone's funny. - Yeah, you can see more of it to be funny. - You can see a lot of people being funny, I know it's more people are funny, and I would say more, like I was thinking, this generation of kids, and like I said, I think Shane's at the tail end of it, and he's at the very top of that, but this generation of kids, and I was just judging it against my generation, everyone has abs. No one had abs when I was a kid. - Where is this going? Like everyone has abs, everyone's fucking funny. Everyone's got a full head of hair. - Everyone. - Everyone, like you go online, man, these kids are fucking crushing it, whereas my generation, we were a bunch of fucking slouches, who like, at times, we were very not funny. - Everyone's got abs, dude. I mean, this episode, everyone's got abs. - Everyone's got fucking abs. - I don't know about that. - Do you know how many of these get abs? - Yeah, I've tried, yeah. - This is impossible. - It's hard. - And everyone's got fucking abs. - I don't think that's right. - You're still in a little Wayne's abs? - I saw little Wayne's abs. - But everyone's got abs. - Same part of the city, he weighs like 140 pounds, but yeah. - I fucking, I know, I have so far for my abs right now. - Not close. - I have abs by layin' bed and I try to get up real slow. - Yeah. - You can, man, you're in bed with me, and the lighting's right, you can see abs. You can see the, like, that you're like, oh, they're there. - On the outside, not on the inside. - On the outside. - And then you get up and it's like they're gone. - Oh, and they're gone. The second I stand, you cannot find them. - Yeah. - They're like fucking Tupacabra. They are not real. - Maybe that's what this whole next year's about for you. See your abs. - No, this whole next year is to find, my whole next year right now is to find out, find my middle ground. - There you go. With fitness, with obsessive compulsiveness, with anxiety, with alcohol, with marijuana. - Okay. - Yeah. - And the cigars. I mean, I went, I was smoking two cigars a day to zero cigars a day. - Jesus. - Are you still smoking cigars an hour now? - I just brought a box over here. - Yeah. - I guess I got cigars too. - All right, well look, we gotta run. We will see you guys at McDill Air Force Base at the McDill Exchange. I'll guess-- - cigars and alcohol. - We're gonna go on 11 a.m. - And I'd love to work out with you guys in the morning if we can. If anyone at the Air Force Base wants to like a colonel or a sergeant or an admiral, wants to do like a crazy fucking circuit training with me, I love to do that. I would love that shit. I got so fired up, hold on. Let's just end on this. Can I tell you what got my dick hard as fuck? - Sure. - Is as like a straight meathead, dude. Two weeks ago was like first reporting back to camp with all the college kids going to fucking football camp, football, you know, like getting ready for the season. And they were all deadlifting in the gym where they're setting PRs and they're losing their fucking minds, dude. - Where I got into it. - Where were you? - Everywhere. - Oh. - Texas A&M, Florida State, Florida. - Oh, you're watching this. - I was watching them online. Dude, I followed the Florida Strength Coach 'cause I watched him. I think he's cleaned like 485 pounds or something. Like, dude, I just got-- - So fucking rocked off of these dudes. Just fucking the energy. - I saw a coach somewhere do incline dumbbells with 170s, just easy peasy. Do you know what I'm talking about? - No, no. Did you see Matt Liner, do it? - No. - Type it real quick, real quick. I know we got to wrap this up. Type in Matt Liner's bench press. Tom, I got to tell you right now, all I wanna do is go to those colleges when they PR. - That's it. - And just be a part of that energy. - Okay. - Is this it? - Okay, yup. - Okay. - Okay, Matt Liner, he's doing bench press. - Okay. - And he's like, I got that. And they're like, dude, that's not how you do bench. He's just going halfway down. And then this guy's instructing him how to do it. - Oh, I see. Okay. Yeah, all right. Dean. - Look at Matt Liner. That's how I do it. - Yeah, he wasn't going down the way. I got it. - But yeah, dude, that energy at colleges. That's what I'm hoping McDill has for us. If they're like, yo, you wanna come in and fucking PR your squat, PR deadlift, I would, I just like that energy of that all guys in the gym, everyone's wearing the same shit. The music's blaring, smelling salts, chalk, and a bunch of fucking meathead energy. You know what I tell you, Jason Kelsey, when I did the bench press of 325, Jason Kelsey was saying to me, he goes, what time? I said nine o'clock, he goes, I'm there. I said, what? And he goes, I love that shit. - Of course. - And I didn't understand what he was talking about until I did it, and I, but it was fun for me. - Of course. - Now I'm watching these videos going, dude. Look up on Instagram, Andre Boyd, 1981, B-O-Y-D, Andre Boyd, 1981. This is a coach, this is a grown man. Those are 170s. - Those are 170s? - 170s. - 170s. - By the way, he didn't warm up 'cause he's wearing a collared shirt. - No, he's in his work clothes. - Okay. - Yes. - He's a big man. - All right. - He's still. - I can't think of anything. He catchphrased the same stuff. - He's an incline, by the way, not flat, incline, okay? Oh my God, oh, I want that to be my alarm clock to wake up. Bro. And that's the bill where y'all win tomorrow. Holy shit, Tom. Yeah, he's just wrapping him out, dude. That dude will throw you some fucking wall, man. By the way, I got to tell you, I don't know if I could lift 170's up like with one hand, but I don't know if I could lift 170. He's on the rack and that was impressive. It's like a method man, method man's fucking jacked. He's jacked. He's doing fucking hundreds on incline. He's super jacked. Yeah, it's inspiring. It's inspiring. All right, we're going to run, see you at McDill and we'll see you back here soon. Awesome. That was great, man. Great episode. Fun episode. Hopefully Mountain Dew is happy. Oh, I think we have to shoot that just non-curve. It's so funny. It ended up being so funny. I like the sabas, dude. I like them. I think they look good. I like them too. Yeah. Leanne just went to, we're getting our puppy this weekend. Yeah. So Leanne went with the girls to get a RV and I'm wearing the sabas all weekend. Fuck yeah, dude. Yeah. All right. I'll talk to you later. Okay, buddy. All right, love you. Love you too. Love you too. ♪ One goes top and swath the other where's the shirt, time to tell stories and birds the machine, there's not a chance and hell that they'll keep the clean, there's love to call, two bears one cave.